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Ep. 132 – Lady Liberty: Jeep Nana and Abu Ghraib Apologist
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“Alert if you purchased any of the TRB SYSTEMS ITEMS, YOU GOT SCAMMED. THE TRB VOUCHERS, DJT GOLDEN CHECKS, DJT DIAMOND CHECKS, TRB GOLDEN CHECKS have no monetary values they are COMMEMORATIVE ONLY” -Unknown/Cillian Murphy
This week Jeremiah joins us to discuss a few fun topics from the recent allegations against America’s brown sweat-soaked mayor, Rudy Giuliani, our proposed ambulance-chaser business idea, and the greatest battle anthem ever scrawled onto a DUI court summons, “Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue (The Angry American)” written by America’s pit-stained patriot poet, Toby Keith! I doubt you’ll blossom as a person because of this episode, but it was one of the most fun conversations we’ve had in a long time. Enjoy, and join the Discord!
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Transcript
Humorous Beginnings and Social Media Critiques
00:00:00
Speaker
Yeah, back to happier things like the decline of American civilization. Do you want to be at the top? Like, where on the boat sink? Do you want to be president? Like, do you want to be where like everyone's definitely weird, we're slipping below the water now, it's gonna get bad? Or do you want to be the guy who's on it when it hits the bottom?
00:00:18
Speaker
Well, you don't want to be Czar Nicholas. I know that much. That's true. Yeah. When he hits a lot of that's what's appointed. Yeah. But the guy before that, do you want to be the guy who's just like, dang, probably get out after this one. Like, if you're going to be more market off, get your tetanus shot now.
00:00:55
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. Cool. I'm Jeremiah. I'm sorry. Jeremiah is looking at his phone, so that's cool. Because Casey sent me a text message. I was like, wait, do I need to have this for the show? What's going on? He's too busy looking at awesome Memorial Day memes. Happy Memorial Day, everybody.
00:01:16
Speaker
Happy Memorial Day. I have a beautiful quote to get us, just get the mood right. I found it on Facebook where all beautiful quotes go to infect the brains of boomers. The Promethean estuary of like motivational quotes.
00:01:34
Speaker
Yeah, I like my favorite is it's like it it says who's it by it says dash unknown and you just put you can just say anything dash unknown in front of like a nice picture and People will share it a lot if they're over 55 It's our flag does not fly because the wind moves it it flies with the last breath of each soldier who died protecting it
00:02:01
Speaker
because people were coming for our flight. It's like it makes it sound like our country won an awesome game of capture the flag is what it sounds like. Was it was this quote like attached to a picture of like Silly and Murphy rolling up his sleeves?
00:02:16
Speaker
No, it's attached to a picture of an American flag. But totally. I think it's Killian. I'm not trying to be that guy and correct you, but I always thought it was weird because it's definitely spelled like Sillian, but multiple people have corrected me that it's Killian. Anyway, I don't.
Memorial Day, Cars, and Personality Stereotypes
00:02:30
Speaker
He's one of the good about yourself right now.
00:02:32
Speaker
Thank you. It's just like Tom Hardy where like people see pictures of them and they just they can't help themselves. They're like, I need to put some text over this guy's face. Like this guy will make my point to this slightly effeminate gaunt British actor who plays a terrible person from 100 years ago. He'll make my point for me. Yeah, I is dressed nice.
00:02:52
Speaker
That's true. Yeah. Did you guys do your honorable duty and blow a soldier today? Sorry. Sorry. Also can include also can include veterans into this. You guys know I'm a very patriotic person. It's not veterans. But but people fucking act like it is. They always and they always include like, oh, and don't forget about the people who've currently said they always add that it's like an asterisk on Memorial Day.
00:03:19
Speaker
Nobody wants to feel. No one wants to feel left out. I know. But it's like, why do we have both? Really? I mean, yeah, just combine them together. I mean, do you spell out any any clearer how much you value the military? Like I was actually bummed I was going to like on the weekends, I play Call of Duty with my brothers online because like all the time zones line up and we can do it. It's like Stolen Valor, the video game.
00:03:46
Speaker
Well, that wasn't the direction I was going, but one of my brothers is active duty military. That's where I was going. And I asked him, I was like, Hey, you want to hop on tomorrow? He's like, No, I got work. And me and the other brother like, Oh, we have Memorial Day off. And he was like, Yeah, must be nice. I hope your brother appreciates anti military jokes. It's funny, we're all here to laugh at America's domination over the
00:04:10
Speaker
over the entire world. That's great. Um, also we have a local business kind of blows and smoke up their ass today that I thought was funny. Uh, they, they posted cause they didn't need to really post anything. Uh, but it was, we could be open today and we'd most likely be very busy, but we are closed today in observance. Yeah, it is. And we are closed today in observance of the holiday.
00:04:35
Speaker
and a much needed rest from the grind happy moral day it is basically like we could be making a lot of money today but we love the troops so much we're gonna sack because because i think what we're seeing here is he he has that um
00:04:57
Speaker
All gave some, but some gave all mentality that he's just trying to channel on his small business Facebook page. He gave fifteen hundred dollars in revenue by staying close today. That's the all that he gave. Yeah. He could have made a he could have made like a payment on his Kia Sorrento if he could have stayed open today, but he values the troops. He could have stayed open and given all the proceeds that day to some sort of like
00:05:28
Speaker
injured wounded warrior fund or something like that if he really cared but what type of business it's a pizza place I go that's like despite his blue lives matter sign I still go there to get I think it's like wrong
00:05:45
Speaker
Well, all right. There's a little bit of a rabbit trail. You got to put up with some stuff at certain levels of society. Like I'm not going to be able to join a gym that doesn't have a Blue Lives Matter flag hanging somewhere in it. You know, like you just you got to accept that that's just the way it goes. I feel like a guy at a pizza place being real excited about Memorial Day. He doesn't drive a Kia Sorento. It's definitely like an F-150 or a Super Duty or a Ram or something like that, like or a Jeep. It could be a Jeep. It's got to be one of those cars, though.
00:06:12
Speaker
It always goes back to cars and what people drive with you, Jeremiah. You can judge some books by their covers. You can. It's identity forecasting. That's why it makes a lot of sense that I drive a 2011 Honda Civic with a broken bumper and lots of rust on it. You do sound like a Northeast post-EMO elder millennial. All I need to do is empty my trunk so I can go on tour with it with four other people.
00:06:40
Speaker
Dude, I love car watching as much as I love people watching for all the same reasons. And like the Walmart closest to my house in El Dorado.
00:06:50
Speaker
They have like, there is always something interesting or fun in the parking lot. Like for instance, somebody who, I imagine they work there. I assume they work there. Drives one of those. It's like a, it was a factory Dodge Dakota convertible that they made in the 90s. So it's like the old square body Dodge Dakota little truck, but it has a rag top on it that you can take off. Wait, not like off the bed.
00:07:19
Speaker
Like the regular cab has a rag top. It can be an open cab. Yes. There's no way. Like a nineties Dakota. Yep. I'm telling you, it's, it exists. I didn't even know that. Oh my gosh. That is the coolest. That is the coolest little truck. I want one. Oh my gosh. It has a little roll bar and everything. Dude, it's red and somebody has a Christine one at my Walmart.
00:07:48
Speaker
That's got to be the least safe vehicle ever sold in the 90s. Like those old little pickup trucks were already incredibly unsafe. Now you take away like probably 25 percent of the structural rigidity. Oh, yeah, it's going to be good. It's like casually play. It's like casually playing with suicide. Yeah, like you just gradually upping your dose of aspirin every time you feel a little headache or something come on and like or you could just buy a convertible Dakota and take turns quickly.
00:08:18
Speaker
It's the truck equivalent of a motorcycle. I feel like you could like, you know, is it unanimous? We'll find out here. Um, the worst car, like you know, the worst person behind the wheel.
00:08:36
Speaker
is driving a yellow H3, right? No, it's a Nissan Altima driver. Oh my God. I should have expected you to disagree with me. If there's any H3 that's still on the road, they're an enthusiast at this point because those vehicles did not want to work.
00:08:51
Speaker
No, you can't give you cannot excuse their behavior. I'm saying if they survive, if they don't know if they've survived, I'm saying so they probably won't be the worst driver. The worst driver are ultimate drivers because like their cars are always dragging a bumper and they're made of three different colors and they're going 20 over and weaving around people like they're ready to die at any given moment.
00:09:11
Speaker
I'm not talking actual driving capabilities. I'm talking the worst kind of human behind that wheel. Oh, no, no, then it's not them. It's the guy with a quad cab Ram diesel Dooley driving it to do errands. Those are the worst guys.
00:09:26
Speaker
You've lost me a duel. As far as I know, duallys are strollers because I worked in the stroller industry for enough time. Sam, you've seen trucks with like two sets of wheels in the back. I don't know if you're making a joke right now. Half and half. I've seen trucks with two wheels in the back. So is that a dually? No, two wheels on each side in the back. Two wheels in the back is very normal. Four wheels in the back. Two on each side, dually. It's so you can take more within birth and hips.
00:09:53
Speaker
Exactly. He's so good at this. I meant to send you guys a picture. I don't remember if I did. I was waiting to get to pick up some food. Like I was waiting for our food to be made somewhere. So I was just sitting in my car in the parking lot, this tight little parking lot in town. And this Ram 2500 quad cab dually diesel starts rolling through the parking lot and slowly makes a circle. And then about two minutes later, it comes back and slowly makes a circle. So I figure like they're just waiting for someone to like
00:10:22
Speaker
Have sex with them? Uh, to leave their parking spot was my guess. But then, then they decide to pull diagonally. They like, they give up and they pulled into the handicap space slash the loading zone space. So they're like, they're breaking two laws at the same time. And this woman in her thirties gets out and like the truck is high enough. She has to like drop to the ground a little bit and then walks 15 feet inside to get her food. There's a bumper sticker on the back window that says like, God, not fear. Any fear other than like walking from the back of the parking lot, I guess.
00:10:51
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But nice. There was and I looked because I was so mad. No handicap plate, no handicap hanger tag. Like, absolutely just double illegally parked to go pick your food up because you didn't want to walk faith. Every like lift kit over two inches should automatically come with like a glory hole retrofit for you. Like it just becomes a problem on those trucks because like who can stand high enough to put their ding dong into the cab at that point?
00:11:20
Speaker
Right. You got to be very tall or have a very long pee pee. I I feel like like owning a car boot should just be something that general citizens should all have. It's like placing cars under citizens arrest when they do dumb shit like that. It just no. Yeah, I'm not having it. Like if someone double parks, anyone should be able to put a boot on their car. I that's the world I want to live in. Yeah.
00:11:46
Speaker
Dude, there was a... I was at that Walmart yesterday, and there was a bumper sticker I saw that really got my attention, and I tried to take a picture of it, and I just couldn't get it cleared up enough, but it said, it said, I'm a Jeep Nana, like a regular Nana on the cooler. It's so awful.
00:12:08
Speaker
I was like, man, I think I might be a Jeep Nana now. Yeah. Those are real. That's a very specific lane. Oh yeah. How's, how's having a classic Jeep been to you, Casey? Are you starting to feel different? Yeah, no. It's, it's like I just took a testosterone shot. Nice. Like I'm, I'm a, I'm, I've started shoplifting. You feel like you grew six inches.
00:12:31
Speaker
Yeah, I used to conceal carry now I brandish. I don't even wear a holster. I just carry it in my hand. In the air wherever I go to be fair, it's probably one of your antique store 22 pistols. So nobody's really scared. They're like, that's interesting. What's that boy doing? 14 misfires for every successful 22 rib fire. We're safe.
00:12:55
Speaker
Yeah, but just like dudes with ripped dudes, it's more about the brandish than the actual practical application. Like how many fights are you gonna get in? But you can probably intimidate your way into and out of a few if you just have big enough. It's not about how many you get into, it's about how many you deter, which you can't prove, but it's
Giuliani Allegations and Trump-related Scams
00:13:20
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a lot. Everyone knows it's a lot.
00:13:22
Speaker
I think, I think I feel the same way about like any in shape dude as Sam does about the military. Yeah. So we're just talking about our insecurities tonight. Is that what we're doing? Yeah. Just seething with envy. Yeah. My really fit, a little bit gay. Is that what you guys were like five foot 10. That's what you mean. Yeah. Screw. Screw all of you guys. Oh.
00:13:50
Speaker
Oh, man, so much has happened since the last time the three of us were together. Yeah, it's been a minute. National figure, America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani. Oh, what a disturbing allegations come up about him. Do you guys really know? No, no. I think I missed this. Oh, yeah. Post post-Borat three. You know, that's he didn't learn from that, which is crazy.
00:14:17
Speaker
He's in some hot water. I don't have the information like in front of me here, but I did read some articles on it and like he is a there's a lady that was like his assistant or secretary or something. She worked for him and she claims that basically like he leaked black water. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Actually, yes. Like she was sexually assaulted like as a basically as a condition of employment for Christ.
00:14:47
Speaker
Ooh, yeah. OK, I've got it. If you want a woman who says she worked as an off the books employee for Rudy Giuliani. Oh, that's a great start off. The books is the worst start to. Yeah. Any Trump's lawyer. OK, this is very recent. Then during his Trump's lawyer, she alleges that the former mayor coester in the sex and owes her two million dollars in unpaid wages. All right. I'm going to be a little bit of a misogynist here.
00:15:11
Speaker
If you're if you're a off the books employee for this guy for the period of one presidential term and he owes you two million dollars in unpaid wages, you might be a prostitute. I think she's just like that's that's like four hundred thousand dollars a year to be an off the books employee for sexual assault unless she gets paid for it. Is that what you're saying, Jeremiah? I'm not I'm not victim blaming here. I'm just saying there's a lot of there's a lot of missing information in that paragraph that I feel like
00:15:40
Speaker
That is no. I mean, if info about what was what her role was in the organization, she was Giuliani's business development director and public relations consultant from 2019 to 2021. Neither of those are real jobs. Those are titles you give people. Boy, he's coming out hot here. It is. Dude, what are you? You Giuliani stand?
00:16:04
Speaker
You simp for Julie? It is interesting. Like, I hope she gets her $2 million. If that's what she's owed and she signed up for the job, knowing that, like, look, I'm going to for $2 million. This is $2 million worth. She wants $10 million. She's saying he owes her $2 million, but she's suing for $10. Good. I hope she gets it. I hope she because she earned it. If honestly, if you even looked at his cock, you get you earned $10 million.
00:16:33
Speaker
No questions asked, so. Right. So just for balance, I guess, since I'm the one defending Rudy Giuliani here, apparently.
00:16:44
Speaker
We're going to clip that. We'll use that. Apparently, apparently this same woman had accused a romantic partner of raping her and throwing her down a flight of stairs. And then that man countersued saying he was the one being physically assaulted and harassed and sued for defamation. And then she paid ten thousand dollars to settle her claims in 2016. And they were still fighting through some other stuff as recently as last year. So also not victim blaming here.
00:17:07
Speaker
Rudy Giuliani did anything to her, I hope she takes him for all he's worth, which is probably not even $10 million at this point. It's negative $10 million. She owes him $10 million after seeing him. But there's definitely, there seems like there's a lot of information we don't know about this situation. So while it's fun to be like Rudy Giuliani sucks and I hope this hurts him and I feel both of those things, like this feels like this is not going to be the last we hear of this story. Yeah, that's probably true. I should have dug into it a little deeper. I read it like a few days ago and I didn't, I haven't kept up with it, but
00:17:36
Speaker
Yeah, it sounds like there might be a little more, a little less to the final proceedings.
00:17:43
Speaker
But if there was anybody who you were going to believe assault allegations about or that he would also pay a prostitute to work directly for him or pay somebody in like to be a prostitute, regardless of whether or not they were like Rudy Giuliani is definitely one of the people you like. Oh, yeah. He's done all of those things. Right. Oh, sure. He's done all those. I mean, if you're a paid politician in this country, you've done most of those things kind of are probably waited until like September 21st to resume his activities. But, you know,
00:18:13
Speaker
We all grieve at different paces. Yeah. What else has been going on? And you said there's a lot in your in the know. Well, OK, so this is kind of along the same lines, meaning I I I got excited about this story. And then the more I like looked for it, the more I was like, yeah, maybe this is not maybe there's not a whole lot here, but
00:18:40
Speaker
It was in Forbes and it's basically the same story has run in a few other publications, but it says, Trump supporters scammed by novelty items, quote, Trump bucks advertised as legal tender. And I like where this is going. So I'll go ahead and just give you the caveat to it here. So I looked for some more stuff about the companies that they mentioned here. And I have no doubt that like.
00:19:06
Speaker
30 some boomers were scammed out of their money. I mean, that's, that's guaranteed. Right. But, but I, arguably anybody who's ever donated to an election was scammed out of their money. Right. Yeah. 100%.
00:19:23
Speaker
But I went looking for some of the companies that it lists here as as promoting these products and I really can't find like much of anything about them. So, I don't know. I don't know if there's meat here or if this is like the media just grabbing like a catchy headline and running with it but
00:19:42
Speaker
It's saying that some Trump supporters said they spent thousands of dollars on items in an effort to support a future presidential campaign for Trump. Colorado-based companies Patriots Dynasty, Patriots Future, and USA Patriots. All good names.
00:20:00
Speaker
have been advertising products with Trump's likeness, including black $10,000 quote Trump bucks sold for $99.99 they said could be redeemed as legal tender at most banks, including JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America and Wells Fargo. They were selling $10,000
00:20:20
Speaker
bills with Trump's face on them for $100 and saying they can- Bro, it's war bond. You know what? You gonna go fight the Nazis? Like you buy war bonds. That's what you do when you're Sam and you're not out there like bleeding on the front line. You're just a critic at home. You buy a war bond. That's true. I feel pretty convicted, actually. That's a good point. I haven't- I don't feel any conviction yet. The man in the arena, you know? Honor goes to the man in the arena.
00:20:49
Speaker
Also to the guy who bought his shoes for him, you know The items which include coins checks and membership cards are sold alongside quote Trump rebate banking system handbooks Which the companies claim are quote official documents that allow the items to be used and that is Enough for some people to just buy them So basically like fraud
00:21:15
Speaker
Yeah, like how widespread this is. I don't know. I mean, they quote a couple of people on here. One of them that they quote on here. I pulled up his Twitter. His name's John Amen.
00:21:27
Speaker
and uh He had a tweet that went viral that says alert if you purchased any of the trb systems items You got scammed a lot of caps here the trb vouchers djt golden checks djt diamond checks trb Golden checks have no monetary value. They are quote commemorative only in all caps and it's just a bunch of people being like
00:21:52
Speaker
God, you dummy. But I don't know if this guy is saying that he actually bought them. Honestly, he seems almost like a bot. Like his account is is just basically like him advertising for a couple of different like management groups that supposedly like get you money for. Hmm. There's still managed like advertising, like get your COVID checks from the government business owner.
00:22:18
Speaker
So grifters at running a bot account to be mad at other grifters, conservatism, conservative fundraising is basically just grifting all the way down at this point. It's Yeah, it's really the gold rush is over. You know, you know, Shiba coin has dropped significantly. And like, there's just the people left holding the bag like me.
00:22:41
Speaker
Actually, speaking of coin, Jeremiah, I'm looking it up. I'm looking it up. It's been a little while since we've looked up Trump coins or whatever they were.
00:22:49
Speaker
Let's go branding coin. Yes. Oh, this is a lot of zeros. It is worth currently zero point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero four six nine three dollars. It looks like the last down it. When did the last time we looked at it? Say two months.
00:23:15
Speaker
Um, it is definitely it's actually up a tiny bit from two months ago, but that is way down from. I mean, if I zoom out, it's just a flat line. It just goes down and stays flat. And every once in a while there's an heartbeat and then it just stays flat after that. So what was the highest it was?
00:23:33
Speaker
Um, total market had probably $10. Um, let's see. It was, it used to be point or 0.00002136. I realized those different amounts are not going to make sense because that's a lot of zeros to keep track of. I'm trying to find the market cap right now, Casey. Um, Oh, it's not listed, but $773 of it have been traded in the last 24 hours.
00:23:59
Speaker
That's wild. That's a lot. It's just like one person trying to buy cigarettes. Yeah. Yep. So it's it's price change over the past seven days is down another 18 percent. So it's going well. Beautiful.
00:24:16
Speaker
Well, this does include a couple of quotes from people, which are really fun. Um, mainly one here. Uh, it's listed as crucial quote, dude, none of this, don't you wonder like how much of this stuff is actually written by humans at this point and how much of it is just like, Hey, uh, Hey chat GPT, like summarize a couple of Reddit threads for me or something. Yeah. Is this, uh, is this, uh, from someone on Twitter that they're quoting? I don't know. It just says Alabama woman.
00:24:45
Speaker
Now I realize well that was stupid the Alabama woman said adding she bought them because I believe President Trump Because he knows all about finance and he was going to help the real Trump Patriots get rich I mean that's something somebody would say somewhere amazing It's also something That most people don't Probably well if you fell for that you believe that if you fell for that
00:25:15
Speaker
scam you buy into that narrative but conservatives are always talking about like we need to have our own economy you know like the second economy of like freedom-loving patriots or whatever like just encourage him to do that doesn't hurt anybody they can if they want those to be worth 10,000 Trump bucks they can be worth 10,000 Trump bucks it's cool like in their own they need like their own separate eat they need their own separate internet at this point where they can just they kind of trade and Trump bucks
00:25:41
Speaker
Yeah, they keep getting kicked off the ones that have terms of service, so. Yeah. So just give them their own, just relegate into the corners of the earth where they can really. Rumble Republicans. Rumble Republicans. I try not to go to Rumble. The double R worded. Is there anything good on Rumble or is it just exactly what you think it's going to be? I don't know. You know, I made an account at one point a while ago, but I never really went back to it. It's kind of like Hive. I made an account, but.
00:26:10
Speaker
I tried to post one thing and it wouldn't post. And so I was like, yeah.
00:26:15
Speaker
I guess I'm a legacy social media guys. Just these have been around for, you know, eight years and pretty attached to them. Yeah. I don't know. It's very hard to tell with some of this stuff if it's like actually real. Is this something that actually happened? Is this like two people that got scammed by by, you know, some small scale operation or something like that? But you can't tell anymore because they literally like are just farming headlines now.
00:26:45
Speaker
Well, and a lot of that merch has just been farmed as well. I get recommended so many ads you guys probably do too, for like, you know, we're in the category of like, white guys in our 30s. So I get marketed lots of like, you know, Dr. Squatch, manscaped, and then lots of things that are like called skull and bones or freedom against fear or whatever, like clothing companies that all have the exact same stuff. Like it's a bunch of pithy quotes on shirts, there's gonna be at least one or two Let's Go Brandon shirts.
00:27:14
Speaker
like they all follow the exact same thing and it looks like they're just paying like people in fiber to make this art that's like vaguely patriotic just 1776 and some scripty font you know with like a little american flag on the sleeve or something and they're charging like 25 bucks for it and some sob story about thing that's like supports our mission of real freedom loving patriots celebrating all the values we hold dear
00:27:35
Speaker
like yeah it's the same screen it's like sure estimate a patriot born in may sure they are fiercely loyal yeah tell it like it is and they will do anything to protect their family
00:27:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's always shirts with too many words. Like, I might not be a perfect son, but my mom gave me this shirt. And if you do anything to fuck with me, you'll never find the body. And it looks like, wow, that escalated quickly. Quote, unknown. Yeah, slash Cillian Murphy. Oh, thank you, Casey. I'm googling now, is it Cillian or Killian?
00:28:10
Speaker
I do like him. I am naturally going to look favorably upon anything that they commandeer his images for. Same with Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy, I think I rip on people for being so obsessed with The Rock. I despise him, but I would watch any terrible blockbuster that Tom Hardy's in.
00:28:34
Speaker
Oh, yeah, he's got charisma. And he just he he literally just looks like every T-Mobile manager. I mean, like every single one. Again, I feel like I've quit movies and I'm having a hard time placing the last thing I saw Tom Hardy and Mad Max Fury Road. Yeah, that would be it. That would definitely be it.
00:28:56
Speaker
Love that movie. Love that movie. OK, so you have a Batman movie? Yeah, he was. OK, that's what I thought. OK, so those are probably the two Tom Hardy movies I've seen. Oh, man, there's a really good one. Warrior recommendation for anyone else out there. It's like a UFC fighter.
00:29:16
Speaker
He's a UFC fighter. It's really it's a story about two brothers. It is excellent. It like if you look up the trailer, the trailer makes it look like some sucky, like rocky knockoff or something. It is not that at all. It's a totally different movie. It's amazing. Oh, Tom Hardy. A lot of different things. Legend. He was really good in that. He plays like twin brothers who are like English gangsters. Oh, yeah. He was also in Peaky Blinders with Killian Murphy. Yes, he was. I did a good job. Revenant. Oh, he's come full circle. Wow.
00:29:46
Speaker
He's a wonderful man. I'm glad we had this. And then he bought a Trump box. So there's that. Wait, did he? Tom Hardy bought Trump bucks? I shouldn't say things. I shouldn't make jokes about Tom Hardy. Yeah. It's pretty disrespectful. Casey, does your shirt say these colors don't run? It does. Okay. It's got an eagle on it.
00:30:12
Speaker
Oh, okay. All right. All right. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it is pretty cool, right? It was $5 at Walmart and it I got to the cash register and it wouldn't scan. So I rang up a flower pot twice. And I don't feel good about it, but but I did do it. Actually, I really don't. I don't feel anything about it. I'm just I'm virtue signaling. You guys aware of this term? Yeah. Oh, yes. I've become quite familiar with it.
00:30:43
Speaker
Dude, your story about the, I don't want, okay, I don't want to get too specific about it because I'm not trying to like drawing negative attention to anyone or anything like that, but your story about the pizza parlor. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:00
Speaker
So there was a post. I sent it to you, Sam. I don't think I sent it to you, Jeremiah. There was a post that came up. I saw an Instagram and it was somebody talking about it being their birthday. They had turned, you know, 30 something and they were like summarizing their year in like real, you know, artsy language and stuff. And it was a series of pictures, you know, of them, of other things. Right. And.
00:31:29
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It it sucked. I mean, it was really annoying to read. I really hated reading it. A lot of just like goofy language and whatnot. But it pulls out all the stops. It's like it hits all the stops. It was a person with like no shame or self-awareness at all.
00:31:51
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or conviction or probably personality or anything to really stand on as a human that sets himself apart as an individual. Oh, my God, dude, just like so like so self-absorbed while trying to sell the idea that they're a really caring, loving person that's so invested in all of these things outside of themselves, you know. And by sell, you mean actually sell.
00:32:18
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Yes. So there was two slides at the end of it, right? The first one, it says things you can't give me for my birthday. And I'm trying to remember what all of them were. Reparations was on there. Defunding the military. Well, so I have at least one thing in common. Yeah. And you're both working equally hard at it. My jokes.
00:32:48
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about it are as worthwhile as her Instagram posts. Well, you know what? You have to speak truth to power when you are in fact. We're living, we're living, we're living in extreme. Wow. You guys like that? Yeah, I did. I remember that well. That's because guys, that's because silence is violence.
00:33:12
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And that means that you have to post on social media, otherwise the enemy wins.
00:33:19
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So it was things you can't give me for my birthday, reparations, trans rights, defunding the military, food for all was on there. It was a bunch of these things. It was like a top 10 list of like causes you should be for in 2023. And then it said the next slide was things you can do for me for my birthday. Subscribe to my OnlyFans.
00:33:43
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What? Send me a book. Send me a donation. That's not the direction I expected that to go. It was amazing. It was an amazing coast. I was thinking like, okay, well, what charity are they going to put in here? Make a donation to this charity.
00:34:00
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Like that that I I I had 100 percent confidence that somewhere in this last screen there was going to be a thing that says make a donation to you know the advocate or something like that like some sort of you know charity for one of these causes and stuff there was not it was just 100 percent give me money give me money give me money give me money there's like six different ways to give you money and that was it
00:34:29
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Are you sure you didn't miss the point or part where she identified her only fans as a 501c3 organization?
00:34:41
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Oh man, what would be the angle? No, I'm thinking, is there an angle someone could try to claim that? I mean, all your proceeds would have to go towards like sex education in rural communities or something. Yeah. I wonder if somebody could like make it. Incidentally, your material just goes to them for free. That's all it is. Like you keep your money, but you just let them watch you like rub one out. That's it. There's a bunch of 12 year old boys watch you just rub your pussy and they're just like, whoa. And you're like,
00:35:10
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Congratulations. This was paid for by probably some Republican dad in the in the fucking Rust Belt. Oh, most people call out specifically. Oh, man. Yeah, I just I just read this and I'm like, oh, dude, this is I wish I could print this off and just like put it in a time capsule that I can put a timer on it that I can't open for 25 years because
00:35:38
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If 50 some year old me opened that thing, it was just in Reddit. I don't know if I could even like 10 years from now. I don't know if I could look at that and really understand the context for it or like because you're saying because everybody has food. We had reparations. Everyone's taking care of it. That's why you'd be so shocked to be hard for you. Imagine a time in human history where nobody was taken care of, right?
00:36:05
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Right, it'd be like Europeans when somebody asks them like, what do you think an ambulance ride
Satirical Business Ideas and Patriotic Merchandise
00:36:10
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costs in America? You'd be like, I don't know, do you tip the driver or what? And they're like, it's three grand.
00:36:19
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Cause in other countries it's more like a, you know, an Uber system and you have like stars. So the ambulance drivers that you write them and then they rate you as a patient. No, no, no. This guy works next to the hospital and he just calls in an ambulance every time he has to go to work.
00:36:39
Speaker
Honestly, as if you were an Uber driver who is like certified as an EMT, you'd probably make more money just like just doing both at the same time. Just like putting hints in your profile. Well, because people don't look at your profile before they hire you on Uber, I guess. How would you like there's like a new class of Uber, like Uber black or lower middle? You mean lower middle or working? It's like those are the classes for Uber.
00:37:04
Speaker
You you may have stumbled on to like a really great business idea. Hmm. Okay. Think about this. Okay. The term ambulance chaser, you know, a reporter that is like Nightcrawler that Jake Gyllenhaal, which was where he runs.
00:37:19
Speaker
Great movie. Fantastic movie. I just rewatched that last year and it's great. It's a great movie. But what if, okay, you can only do this in America, but what if you just basically bought a flatbed truck and instead of piling sticks and leaves on it for money, what if you just had a CB and you just listened for ambulance calls
00:37:46
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You show up ahead of the ambulance and you say, hey, for 250 bucks, I'll take you to the hospital. Anyone in their right mind with no insurance would be like, yeah, let's do that. Even people with insurance, you'd be like, take out your card and see how much an emergency room visit is. And then you look at it and you're like, it's $850. I'll get you there for 250, bro.
00:38:09
Speaker
Casey, the only thing, the only problem here and here, I don't know if a flatbed truck is necessary. I think you could put them inside a vehicle and they might be more. Okay. All right. Don't undermine my vision. It was my vision, Casey. You're a vision stealer.
00:38:22
Speaker
Don't undermine Sam's vision that I have perfected. Casey's going to pull up towing a trailer like a wagon, like a hayride wagon. He's like, it's so soft back there. You just pile in for patients at the top of the hospital. He's going to pull up with a tow truck, but like it just has like the winch and he's just going to hook their shirt to the back of the hook and just pull them up. It's got like an IV bag on the way back. It's got like an IV bag instead of a mudflap on it.
00:38:49
Speaker
Well, if you had to beat the cops there and let me get away trying to beat the ambulance there, you want to zip in and out of traffic. It could be a motorcycle. You get a motorcycle, like with a sidecar that you're like loading them into, or you have to load them on behind you, like ratchet strapped into you. That's the move. Replates a sidecar with a gurney, but would like thick.
00:39:11
Speaker
Oh, that's a great idea. Or you could even buy like one of those, like, have you ever gone on like Alibaba and looked at like motorcycles? They sell them on there. You could just like, I don't think you can buy them here because of emissions problems and stuff, you know, like import tariffs and all that. But like, you can go on there and just look through a list of like weird 125 motorcycle configurations. Like some of them have a truck bed,
00:39:39
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I saw them have a log splitter on the back. Some of them were just like a mobile KitchenAid mixer. This is beyond. Other countries are so much better. They're all $400. I know. They're so much better at making like efficient vehicles that are cool. Americans would need like six vehicles to do that. And they would. I totally believe that there's a log splitter motorcycle that costs $300 that you can buy in Vietnam.
00:40:06
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a motorcycle where when you throw all the ingredients in it, by the time you arrive at your destination, you have a freshly baked loaf of bread. It's the Domino's like hot and ready truck.
00:40:21
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But it's just an exhaust gas to heat it. It's like 250 cc chainsaw mill slash tricycle. It cooks your pizza on the way. It is a North Korean slave that's being farmed out to the Russian government in Siberia, you know?
00:40:43
Speaker
The internet was a great idea. I'm serious though, like you can go on Alibaba and just look at it. That is the weirdest site on the internet, just like the strangest that you can buy anything there and you can buy, you could buy them by the palette, whatever you want.
00:41:02
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Yeah. Who? Because I assume it's mostly China. What factory there is like, let's just make weird versions of all of this stuff for like pennies. Like who decides they need new products that are like, it's like an iPad, but it costs $37 and runs off a custom OS that where did this come from? Who knows? Like, but it's going to look exactly like an iPad. Who are you selling that to? It's like buying off of Wish and actually getting what you paid for. Well, you get what you paid for. Yeah. Cause it's so cheap.
00:41:32
Speaker
I should think getting what you bought as opposed to an empty box. I know Alibaba. They struggle a lot with that, too. I mean, there's there's a lot of scams on there, which big surprise. Oh, my God. And then by the time you get it, it's it's three months ahead. So you have to try to find your receipt in your email database. Have you guys? No, I never have. Have you, Casey?
00:41:56
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Yeah, I'll put it from there. I've never heard of this website. You've never heard of Alibaba? All I can think of is Prince Ali. Fabulous. He was it Alibaba? Prince Ali had to go pee under a palm tree. Imagine the aesthetic and the scams of eBay, but Amazon and it's for the rest of the world. That's amazing. I hate that I haven't known about this.
00:42:23
Speaker
It's like Amazon, but you can buy in bulk and everything sucks. Oh my gosh, it is. Okay, so if you buy between two and 49, 150 cc mopeds, they're $649 each. If you buy more than 50, 150 cc mopeds, they're $599. And you can't order them here because they roll calls straight from the factory.
00:42:50
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customize logos and packaging you can customize like you could have a gift wrapped it looks it runs off kitchen oil it runs off gutter oil you just dump it straight out of the fryer into the tank and it goes which would actually you can convert any vehicle to do that and is considered more economical
00:43:13
Speaker
Uh, their tab for talking about their advantages is spelled advantages. There are advantages. One of the things they say is we have several utility model and appearance patents. You know, it's good when they're like, there are several patents that our company has. Does that have been spelled wrong? Not sure. You can, you can order your Harbor Freight, uh, moped in a like perfect, uh, replica Red Bull livery straight from formula one.
00:43:42
Speaker
You can have as many patterns as you want, as long as you spell all the right words incorrectly. Yeah, I love it. It's like a fun game to go on Wish and just like read description like the headlines for for items because they're like they're like a paragraph. Every single item is they're trying to hit every keyword. So like everything has has 14, you know, distinguishing factors in the headline.
00:44:10
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I got an ad this week on Facebook from Wish that was guaranteeing that I could buy a Nintendo Switch for $7 on a flash sale. $7? That is awesome. That's a great deal. Did you get one? Nope.
00:44:25
Speaker
Not even to see, what are they going to send you for seven bucks though? Like seven bucks feels like it would be worth it just to like see the scam. Just to see what happens. Yeah. I, yeah. Like if there was like a hundred dollars or something, I would think, Oh, it's going to be like some crappy Android tablet running. Like you basically Nintendo ROM. You essentially are buying an email that says your order was canceled because you didn't order fast enough. And they just hope you don't ask for a refund because it was only $7.
00:44:53
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by a palette of tablet cases that say America love it or leave it
00:44:59
Speaker
Oh man, I've just thought of a, I've thought of another business idea. Okay. So it's one of those, uh, Trumpy and clothing companies, right? That's selling all this freedom, loving patriots, whatever. We can get chat GPT to write us something. Uh, and then you make the orders, all the orders are going to be cheap though. They're only going to be for like 25, $35. Like you don't want any expensive items. And then we just have a like fake, uh, shipping
00:45:23
Speaker
like tracking code generator and we just make totally bogus tracking codes that are always like off by it or no just figure out how to emulate the ones the postal service does that way it might just actually track random people's packages and then just see like how long can you milk it and like every time they try to like come get a bunch of refunds you just close the shop and set up another business and keep going you all you have to do is put it in your terms of service that you're not responsible for lost packages
00:45:49
Speaker
Oh, and dude, you report that the order is missing, and then you say, United States Postal Service, government, am I right? Exactly. Although the only flaw there might be the Postal Service is going to take that really seriously. If you're alleging that they're not like delivering packages, they're going to be like, what package? And being the Postal Service, that's probably a crime. I'd probably use DHL. Are you saying we haven't found a quick workaround for fraud?
00:46:16
Speaker
No, DHL is actually pretty. People are fraud. DHL is good. They're almost exclusively international. OK, so what's the spirit airlines of shipping companies? That's what I'm trying to like. You want to pick one that they they don't have it together that well, so people will believe that they don't have it together. Man, I don't know if I know because like UPS and FedEx, I feel like are about the same. Like they don't. It doesn't really matter.
00:46:43
Speaker
No, it doesn't. They're it's essentially the exact. Well, I, I prefer UPS. That's boring conversation. So we don't need to get into the details. Moving on, moving on. What shipping company do you prefer? Well, it was, it is kind of funny when I worked for a retail company in Boston, I managed this, like their fulfillment and it was, um, we had gone back and forth between FedEx and UPS and FedEx was like just
00:47:13
Speaker
a nightmare because they essentially a franchise organization. Yeah. So anyone who drives a truck, excuse me, anyone who drives a truck is basically bought their route and their managers are like, I don't know what to tell you, man. Like there's not a whole lot we can do here when the guy picking your packages up is an asshole. And it's kind of like they try to make it. It feels kind of like Mary Kay, but for people who just want to drive.
00:47:44
Speaker
It's like a snap on truck. Yeah. We're living, we're living, we're living in extreme danger. Bam, to the bip, I make you want to flip. You nailed the timing there.
00:48:01
Speaker
Okay. So, uh, the other story that I wanted to talk to you about, we've been talking a bunch about music like before the episode and then some during the episode. Uh, I remembered a song this week and it came up. I've been listening to a lot of classic country lately. Driving around Cherokee. Just feeling the vibe. A hundred percent. Yeah. Good. I'm happy for you. I mean, I mean, it's not like I was really trying out a new identity here. You should. You should. Is your dog in the car with you?
00:48:29
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And my wife. Fantastic. Great. That's everything you need. Is there a cold one in the cup holder? Well, I mean a cold monster.
00:48:39
Speaker
That's true, it's you. I'm really harking it back to middle school. I get you, I get you. My little Dixieland Delight Monster rehab. Casey, if they made Hard Monster, would you drink it? No, I wouldn't. I don't know alcohol tolerance. I drank a shot and a half over the course of the last hour of us talking, and this is as far as I go. But okay, how many monsters do you have a day?
00:49:03
Speaker
Maybe one. Okay. Don't, don't make my problem sound worse than it is. I'm not trying to make it sound worse. It is. I'm just, that's a weird line to drop. Like I'll drink a monster a day, but oh, shot and a half alcohol in it. I don't know. That's, that's a little crazy immediately. How many ounce of Kratom Kratom? I do have a problem with that. I do. I do have a, that's what's going to kill me for sure. 100%. And you know what?
00:49:34
Speaker
It's kind of funny because if they just legalized weed, they wouldn't be losing so many people to Kratum 10 years from now. I don't think that's true. I think Kratum is a superior plant to weed myself personally and I tell you what, I think Kratum secures cancer and this is me going on the record and saying that.
00:50:02
Speaker
Yeah. On the record. This sounds like it comes from people of fraud. Sounds like one of the documentaries that a specific person in your family might be sending you. I've recently come to the conclusion that marijuana is just not for me. Uh, I've passed it up probably the last five or six times and I
00:50:23
Speaker
Even in a social setting, like people will be getting high and I'm just like, no, I'm good. Like, where are you hanging out in social settings where people are getting higher in your thirties, your father? Because literally everyone, because that's just what people, that's what everybody does. I don't think I go to places where people aren't, don't have access to marijuana at their fingertips.
00:50:44
Speaker
I guess, where are you guys at that you're like around people? I don't live where you do. We're going to hang out with people that are doing stuff. We're like hanging out by a fire. Our kids are all inside watching a movie and people, you know, you pass a joint around. Yeah, that sounds a lot like hanging out with groups of people, which is not a thing that me and I'm guessing Casey would be doing. Yeah.
00:51:07
Speaker
I mean, you can do it alone, too. Like, my wife prefers that over anything. Like, she would rather do that than drink. Every time I do it, I'm like, I don't love this. Like, I guess after all these years of
00:51:23
Speaker
doing it, I feel like it should, based on how people talk about it, it should be better than it is. It just doesn't do it for me. It's got to be biological. Okay, you don't have to do drugs, Sam. You don't have to. But I want to. I want to do drugs. And that's what's the biggest, that's what's really hard for me is I just really hoped I could do more drugs when I was in my 30s. I'm in my mid 30s, man.
00:51:46
Speaker
Is this the direction the story was supposed to be going? Casey has even started a story yet. Yeah, I don't remember where we left the story. We're talking about my how I'm trying on like Casey's got that shot and abandoned as an identity. That's right. You get that shiny half
Country Music and Political Controversies
00:52:00
Speaker
of alcohol in your stories are really starting to wander, Pop Pop. There I am in the Cherokee.
00:52:08
Speaker
I'm listening to the classic country playlist in somewhere between Pam Tillis and Conway Twitty. It's songs snuck in there that really doesn't belong in a classic countries playlist, but I but I appreciated it all the same. And it's called courtesy of the red, white and blue. Yeah, this is a real true classic. Every time it comes on, I get rock fucking hard.
00:52:36
Speaker
You guys both know this song. It's been a long time since I've heard it. I've never, I don't think I've ever seen a fireworks display without this at least being just, you're going places where people are having firework displays. There's a difference here. Like I wouldn't be somewhere where I'd hear this song. That'd be around people. It has the only time you're around. Sorry, go ahead. Case. What was that?
00:53:03
Speaker
Oh, it hasn't missed a 4th of July since 2000. No, it hasn't. But I would, I'm surprised with the amount of time you spend at a racetrack, Jeremiah, that you, I mean, that's with people. Yeah, but you can be in your own car away from them. I just looked up and Toby Keith, the song is off his 2002 album, Unleashed. Given the timing, that's 100% referring to America going to curb stomp the Middle East, right? And 100% the name of a Jet Li movie, also.
00:53:33
Speaker
Yeah, we covered that last time. That is true. And that's a good one. Yeah, this is a classic. This is this may be the defining song of our generation, I think. Are we going to just read all the lyrics to this right now? Well, I think we should sing them in concert. American girls and American guys will always stand up and salute. We'll always recognize.
00:54:01
Speaker
When we see Old Glory flying, there's a lot of men dead so that we can sleep in peace at night when we lay down our heads. And then it just goes and goes. Yeah, but the chorus, the chorus is the masterpiece. The bridge is what makes it all come together, though. Well, am I remembering the right part that's the chorus, where it's like, hey, Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list and the Statue of Liberty started shaking her fist?
00:54:29
Speaker
Yeah, I thought that was a bridge. Oh, maybe I'm wrong. When you hear Mother Freedom start ringing her bell and it feels like the whole wide world is raining down on you, brought to you courtesy of the red, white and blue. Mother Freedom ring her bell is her having an orgasm, by the way. A lot of you don't know that.
00:54:45
Speaker
See you filthy and you always take it to sex. I make it better. It's insecurity. People are just just two red blooded patriotic alpha men here. Red blooded. Talk about songs. Talk about songs that make us tear up a little bit when we're having a cold one and driving the Cherokee. Yeah. And Sam says to come in here and be like.
00:55:03
Speaker
Exactly. He's just coming in here being all Northeastern or up in here being like patriotism. What makes me really angry, as you said, in our truck, having a cold one as of the government as in fringed on our rights to drink and drive. And that's probably the most offensive thing you've said. You know what? I hope I hope scientists invent time travel just so you can go back and get drafted to Vietnam.
00:55:33
Speaker
So this song was dude, it really like encapsulates a time period that's hard to put yourself back in the headspace of. Yeah, we were. Yeah. Like, what were we like eighth grade, something like that? What year do you say it was 2002? OK, yeah, I suppose eighth, ninth grade. Yeah, somewhere in there.
00:55:57
Speaker
And it was, God, I don't know. I don't know how you describe it. Because you can't roll back all of the things that have happened since then. And I was listening to a couple of podcasts where they talked about what I'm going to discuss here in a second. And I was kind of getting angry at the way that these snarky, smug podcaster people were corporate podcast people.
00:56:25
Speaker
I mean, literally, this is like iHeartRadio garbage. Did you intentionally go looking for podcasts on where they relate to the song where there's like a song review? How'd you find these and why'd they make you so angry? Well, because there was, so where this goes from here is Toby Keith, if he represented, if the him in this song represented like
00:56:49
Speaker
mainstream red-blooded Republican America at the time. Who represented the other side? The Dixie Chicks. You nailed it. You nailed it, dude. And he and the Dixie Chicks got in a feud during this time period. Pre-Twitter battle.
00:57:08
Speaker
Yeah, this was all happening through legacy media and stuff and statements reported by the Associated Press. Did they do diss tracks or no? Just like a country district? Well, so it started because I mean, the whole controversy around the Dixie chick started when they were they were so, dude, I had totally like, like lost track.
00:57:34
Speaker
of how popular the Dixie Chicks were back at that time period. Apparently, okay, so their album,
00:57:43
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It's like take me away or it's one of their title like mainstream like their their landmark songs that they sang is the title track on an album and that album sold 13 million copies at the time Dude that is nuts in it 13 million copies and then their next album Which is kind of like marred by some of the controversy and stuff like that still sold like like 7 million or something I mean it was
00:58:13
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They were huge. They were maybe like one of the biggest musical acts at the time. And they're in London doing this like sold out stadium tour type show. And the the the main person from the Dixie Chicks got I'm missing her name now. Natalie mains. She's the lead singer. That's right. And any story that you read or anything you hear about the Dixie Chicks from this time period. She's the only one that's ever quoted like
00:58:44
Speaker
There's three members in the group. I don't have their names in front of me, but, uh, God, let me just, let me just take a look at them real quick here. Natalie mains and then sisters, Marty McGuire and Emily Strayer. So Marty and Emily are never quoted in anything. It's always Natalie. She kind of spoke for the group. And as far as I can tell, like they backed her up pretty much.
00:59:10
Speaker
like 100% on anything that happened. But like she was the main one that kind of like sparked the controversy. So they're at this huge stadium tour show in London. And it's right as we're about to go into the hour into Iraq. And she makes a comment about how one of the things that we didn't see when we were kids and we were just watching 911 footage every day when we got home from school. That's all we watched on repeat for months on end.
00:59:40
Speaker
dude it was it was all the time in fact i remember there was like a pretty big controversy at some point i don't know the time period but i remember there was a big like fox news controversy around the fact that like other news outlets
00:59:55
Speaker
were like, they were kind of like they were their policy had shifted to where they were like, Hey, let's not continually show the towers getting hit by airplanes and dying and stuff like let's let's just tone that down. It's been years. Maybe people don't need to see this every day. And there was like a backlash.
01:00:16
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over that, you know, I never forget thing of like, you're trying to like, brush aside the only thing that everybody talks about or thinks about all the time. Like it was ridiculous. But yeah, I remember that. Right. Well, and so at the time, we didn't really get to see the fact that like, when we were about to go into Iraq, there was some of the most some of the largest, it might even be the largest protest in world history around the globe.
01:00:41
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Uh, in countries all around the world of people like protesting the fact that we were about to invade Iraq. It was a huge global movement that like, I, I don't have any memory of, I don't remember ever seeing anything about it. No, same greed. Yep. So she was on stage at this London tour deal and she said something along the lines of, Hey, just so you guys know.
01:01:07
Speaker
We're on the same side as you. We do not support going into Iraq and, you know, we don't want to see a bunch of people killed and stuff like that. And then like one media organization picked it up and that's where the whole controversy started. It was like, you know, the Dixie Chicks don't support the troops. The Dixie Chicks don't want to like, they're not like, they're terrorist apologists, basically all of that.
01:01:35
Speaker
And that was like one of the first big like public cancellations when you say yes. Yeah. At least that I could even recall because if I'm thinking back as far as I can, that's the first one. I remember I never liked country music, but I remember feeling like these people are like.
01:01:55
Speaker
supposedly country artists and they're not supporting George Bush. I remember that correlation being mapped in my brain that if you're a country, you're for conservatism. And them not toeing the line stuck out as something that didn't make sense for everything that I understood as good quality country music despite not even caring about it.
01:02:21
Speaker
there was definitely like a feeling of that. Like, how dare these people like speak out against like, we're trying to to ensure that America is not attacked again. And Saddam's been a menace since that, you know, since, since we gave him his job, Iran war. Yeah, we were talking about that in the news either. At least not at that time.
01:02:47
Speaker
Yeah and dude there's so many things like looking back on this stuff that that I don't know like I said I was listening to like like these couple of podcasts about this whole thing and just like the smug tone about
01:03:02
Speaker
like how people felt at the time it was kind of making me mad like listening to like it's so easy to dismiss now like people thought there was weapons of mass destruction it's so ridiculous like yeah now it's ridiculous
01:03:20
Speaker
Like you cannot roll back everything that we know now. Right. Not only about the fact that there's not weapons of mass destruction, but like think about how much we've learned about what the federal government has done to like lie to us and stuff. Yeah. I mean, that was the onset of the Patriot Act, basically. We wouldn't have had.
01:03:40
Speaker
100% Patriot Act without that and that everyone's like bothered by like Tik Tok's invasion of privacy and stuff like that. But I mean, it's really like the Patriot Act opened the floodgates and it wasn't till like over a decade later that we realized the implications of what that meant. And even after knowing it, people go, yeah, didn't that suck too bad? That's just how things are now. And no one's given one fuck about trying to roll something like that back either.
01:04:08
Speaker
Yeah. And now you're like, like you went from being a kook to saying, you know, people used to like laugh at the fact that people are like, the government's spying on you. The government's listening to your phone calls or, you know, reading your emails or something like that used to be insane. Like when somebody said something like that. And then all of a sudden we learned that they are doing those things.
01:04:28
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In whatever passive sense they are, I mean, there's not some federal agent assigned to Sam. They're probably Jeremiah and I, but there isn't. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Right. Because you guys own guns. I've been a gamer. No, no, it's probably the stuff I've said in game lobbies.
01:04:49
Speaker
Oh, man. Yeah, this guy is this guy's ordered, you know, seven copies of the Antarctica cookbook. He's either distributing them or he's really bad at keeping track of them. But like, you can't you can't unknow those things. And it's hard to put in context the way people felt when like, I do. Colin Powell is like showing he's like going through a slideshow on TV showing you trucks that he says are loaded with chemical weapons and stuff.
01:05:20
Speaker
Like you cannot like laughing off the way that people felt at the time is so irritating to me. At the time, it felt like it was another World War Two. Like we're fighting the great evil. The world is coming together to rid the world of this horrible, horrible thing. Like and I mean, that was at least like four years of that. Yeah. And every like Mr. you know, like liberal podcast or like every leftist icon almost without fail was in favor of the Iraq War.
01:05:52
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with the exception of Bernie Sanders and they're like, you know, kind of, uh, you know, they could go either way on him, depending on what he's saying today, you know, but, uh,
01:06:03
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I don't know. It's just really irritating to listen to like people just laugh off the spirit of the time. And I feel like that's kind of what this song encapsulates is like this is how people felt like this blew up and went crazy because that's how people felt. It felt like, you know, it was so on track that Christians were okay with the word ass for like
01:06:31
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ever afterward. Like that made ass. OK. Yeah, it's like without context. That's a very clippable clip that made ass. OK. The poo poll loopholes. So we're getting back to 100 percent. No, but we'll put what do we need to quote the lyrics? What is it? Something about Lady Liberty. She'll put a boot up your ass. That's the American way. Yeah. I mean, I like everyone's like,
01:07:00
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You know, if I heard my kids say ass, I'd, you know, put him in a corner and shove a block of soap in their mouth. But I hear in this song about Lady Liberty shoving a boot up terrorist ass. And we are here to party and blow stuff up, but not in a terrorist way. It's just like the the righteous kind of colorful display of fireworks kind of way. Right. Yeah.
01:07:22
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Yeah, like nowadays, like there's people, people dismiss things that are obviously a problem now, just for whatever, for whatever political reason, you know, or that it's detrimental to their, the person that they're trying to get, you know, elected or opposing or whatever.
01:07:41
Speaker
back then. I mean, we should have really had a much that should have been a bigger thing. Right. Biden having a hard time on a bicycle. It was just swept that one under the rug. Do you guys remember when Abu Ghraib stuff came up? Oh, yeah, dude. I I read a book that like shocked me to my core on Abu Ghraib from a guy
01:08:01
Speaker
who hasn't written a lot. It was called a good war is hard to find. It was like this tiny little book. I don't remember how I did a car accident in like 2012 is really weird. Michael. He was a journalist and he. You said Michael Hayes things and now I'm definitely on a list.
01:08:19
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But yeah, I just I found his book after the fact He was a journalist that was able to see some of the shit that was going on there and wrote about how it shocked him and I That was the first book I read where I was like, oh my god Maybe things were more were fucked up and I didn't I was just a kid that was along for the ride like that was the first I
01:08:44
Speaker
book. I had this I don't really know where I'd fall on that spectrum now but I had a moment or in a time where I was like would have classified myself as maybe like a full blown pacifist and reading that book at the time was one of the things that made me be like this is that was that impacted me and kind of moved me a peg forward on that trajectory. Yeah it's it's dark.
01:09:13
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It's dark. And at the time it was still like Abu Ghraib was a real turning point, I think, in how everyone felt about the war. There was a lot of people all of a sudden that shook their understanding of
01:09:29
Speaker
America is being a benevolent force in the Middle East and you you went one of two directions and I feel like I mean I was a kid I was still in high school at the time I think but I remember like being disgusted that someone would have leaked those things because it would hurt the war effort it would hurt America's standing over there it might radicalize
01:09:55
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you know troops I'm sure that was like Fox News talking points at a time that's probably Hannity was talking about that or something but
01:10:04
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It was like, this is going to mobilize the resistance against America. Like American troops are going to be in danger because someone leaked this footage and these pictures. Right. And that's that's the wrong part is the leak, which is always how that stuff. That's the wrong disloyalty. Yeah. Yeah. Like Julian Assange. Bill can't show his face anywhere.
01:10:25
Speaker
Look, guys, there are proper channels, right? Of course, you know, to bring accountability to these situations. And like the person who leaked this is irresponsible because they should have gone through the proper channels. And the proper channel is like Edward Snowden and everybody. Right. Because the proper channel is the path that a bullet takes from the front of your forehead to the back of your skull. That's the proper channel.
01:10:51
Speaker
Proper channel is a hundred and twenty miles an hour into a tree. Yeah The proper channel are your brake lines don't work. That's So Yeah, it's just you can't really encapsulate like the mindset back in you know 2003 or whatever this was when when you know Keith or Keith Keith for Sutherland Toby Keith
01:11:18
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Toby Keith and the Dixie chicks kind of got into a spat so he released this song basically said that it was kind of inspired by you know his feelings about 9-11 his dad was a veteran he talks about that in the song I lost an eye and
01:11:39
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He supposedly wrote it in like 20 minutes or something. And it sounds it. I mean, lyrically, that's not shocking. Also, this is his version of some gave all. Also, let's go back to it's not Corvik McCarthy, but it's put together. Yeah, it's fine. It's a country. He's like an everyman country singer, like pop country singer.
01:12:02
Speaker
This is what this is better than 90 percent of what country music is now. That's fair. I mean, this is a very this is a very direct message and like you're either in or you're out. Like it's not some sappy love song or just talking about nonsense like vague cross like cultural appeal nonsense. He's very clear about exactly what this song is going to be from the very beginning. So the clarity is the essence of it. Yeah.
01:12:28
Speaker
So clarity is what makes it solid country. I'm saying he's not wishy washy like modern pop country like where it's it's just very vanilla Rehash stuff most of the time like he's taking a stand for something. So that's the quality of country music And for something, you know, it's gonna happen Fall for anything Sam fall for anything
01:12:57
Speaker
Okay, I'm blanking on her name but I'm breaking points. Who's the who's the lady that's a part of the counter points?
01:13:05
Speaker
Oh, I don't remember. It's Ryan Grim and I can't remember her name. She talks like the lady from the show Baskets. That's what I think of when she talks. I'm not familiar with Baskets, but I'm sure it makes sense. She's got a very distinct lack of personality. She described country music the other day, like modern country music as like redneck mad libs.
01:13:33
Speaker
God, that's so perfect. Anyways, so, yeah, Toby Keith writes this song. He wasn't going to release it because he thought it was just kind of like, ah, this is personal. This is for me. You know, you write that, you know, sometimes you come back to that email the next day, you're like, oh, I'm glad I didn't send that draft. Like, let's just simmer it back down. My instant thought is I'm not going to release it was like, this will make a good story later when I say I wasn't going to release it.
01:14:02
Speaker
That was it. Did you know he wasn't even going to release that song? Did you guys know that is how everybody sounded once that interview came out? OK, but OK, think about you putting yourself in this position, right? So pull me out of this song. He's like to not planning on recording it and releasing it, you know, and then he plays a show at the Pentagon in for because that was a means because that was the thing that we used to do a lot of back then.
01:14:33
Speaker
This was a thing. Dude, they sent Adam Devine over to an aircraft carrier to do stand up for the troops. I know what this has to tell me. He wasn't going to record it. He had no intention of using it. But then in front of all these people at the wherever he was.
01:14:51
Speaker
He decides impromptu, not part of the set list, just whips this one out and it gets a standing ovation. Dude, the Commandant of the Marine Corps, James L. Jones, told Keith it was his duty as an American citizen to record the song. Quote, it's your job as an entertainer to lift the morale of the troops. If you want to serve, this is what you can do.
01:15:20
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Oh my gosh, this is a, what a parable. Now don't record it. Oh my God. You know, at that point you don't record this song. You're basically like the Abigail Bleaker.
01:15:36
Speaker
It's true. You're more or less you're indirectly killing American troops. It's like you're taking the bullets out of their gun. You want to be responsible for that, Sam? I mean, I know you're a bleeding heart that hates the military, but you want to take the bullets out of a soldier's gun. Can you live with yourself? It's the equivalent of Ron DeSantis not ordering a torture on people in Guantanamo. It's that.
01:16:03
Speaker
Do you think Ron's DeSantis is going to waterboard Kathleen Kennedy when he gets older? If they haven't already in their weird, dark roleplays. I'm just expecting Disney to actually field a candidate. They're just going to say, screw it, we'll run for president. We're ready to make this real personal. A Disney corporation runs for president. A Disney corporation. Bob Iger is like, we're going to turn this franchise around.
01:16:30
Speaker
Oh my God, can you imagine like DeSantis gets elected president and all of a sudden Bob Iger is strapped into a chair and DeSantis is like holding jumper cables over a car battery and he's like, how many genders are there? How many Bob? How many genders are Bob? Disney's
Billionaires for President and Celebrity Influence
01:16:50
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private military would take him out before he got within a mile of Bob Iger.
01:16:59
Speaker
We ought to encourage these billionaires to all run for president at the same time. All those fragile, fragile egos with all that money competing against each other. Like that's what I think America, like we all agreed the last time a lot of us agreed.
01:17:15
Speaker
Trump and Biden are like the worst two choices for each party. And now we have to choose between them. Like again, I think this, this could bring America together. Let's watch Bezos and Musk and Gates, like all just slugging it out with billions and billions of. And it needs to be definitely show.
01:17:34
Speaker
I know I want it needs to be Netflix. Like the presidential election is no longer Democratic. It's like it's a Netflix show. It's like it's like one of their dating game shows, but you're running for president. And you get like 12 of these old white Fox with too much money. I think that I think you're on to something. I mean, we're going to know we're going to be diverse. I want Oprah in there as well. She's a billionaire. OK, I'll take that.
01:17:59
Speaker
uh is also a billionaire which in in one of the only buildings okay i like this only billionaires we want people who obviously have the business acumen like kid kardashian there like we want their opinions i want them debating each other
01:18:13
Speaker
Yeah, this is a good plan. Taylor Swift would win. I'm sorry, Sam. I kept interrupting you. The guy, this guy posted this video. He was like, what does she do to have all this power? And he's showing a video of like, he lives close enough to a stadium where she's playing.
01:18:33
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that he can you know see it from his window and there's like a crowd in the parking lot the size of the stadium watching the show on screens and he's like and this is night two this is the second night she's here she's like she this woman has so much power
01:18:49
Speaker
Real I mean, honestly, if she was old enough to throw her hat in the ring for president right now, have you not read this conspiracy theory? No, is that is that what that's about that she's working towards? All right. So I only know this because Taylor Swift was born in the same year as me. 1989. But there is a joke that started that, like most other things, people can't tell how seriously you're taking after a point where Taylor Swift would not be old enough to be president while she was running, but would be old enough to be president at the time of being sworn in.
01:19:19
Speaker
I look for over a Trump or Biden. Yeah, if you got to lose at this point, literally gets to manage the unraveling at this point. Like, right. Who gets to ride that ship down? Who gets to scream? Who gets to be screamed at by Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert as she goes through a divorce?
01:19:40
Speaker
Oh man, you had to put the sour note into things. Back to happier things like the decline of American civilization. Do you want to be at the top? Where on the boat sink do you want to be president? Do you want to be where everyone's definitely, we're slipping below the water now, it's going to get bad? Or do you want to be the guy who's on it when it hits the bottom?
01:20:04
Speaker
Well, you don't want to be Czar Nicholas. I know that much. That's true. Yeah. When it hits a lot of that's what that's
Podcast Management Challenges and Future Plans
01:20:10
Speaker
what it's appointed. Yeah. But the guy before that, do you want to be the guy who's just like, dang, probably get out after this one. Like, if you're going to be Mo Mark and Offie, get your tetanus shot now. Oh, God. OK.
01:20:29
Speaker
Dude, we might have to tackle this another day, because it's... Oh wait, you're still not to the point of the story? No, okay, so... I'm just setting up the two chitons who are about to clash right now. Wait, this seriously is still about the Dixie Chicks, Toby, Keith, Rat, Beef? That was the whole thing.
01:20:52
Speaker
If you two bros could keep it on task, you know what I mean? No, that's not what we do here. I'm already ahead of time of what the point of the story is supposed to be because we're just taking turns everywhere. I'm sorry, man. I mean, we're an hour and a half in. Do we do we do the meat of this as a part two? I mean, what do we do here? I kind of want to hear the story at this point. We can do that. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it took us 30 minutes to get through the preliminary. I mean, what are we going to do this? Another 45 minutes?
01:21:22
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I'm good with that. Let's revisit it on the next solo episode and I'll do a little more research and we can do a deeper dive into it because it is fun. It is fun and it's like there's a clear winner at the time. The clear winner isn't the person who won in the Celebrity Deathmatch episode of this rivalry, right? No, but I would claim eight this in a heartbeat.
01:21:48
Speaker
for sure get the Wallace and Gromit guys on top of it. Alright so next solo episode we will see the Dixie Chicks go head to head with Toby Keith. It is truly the Proud Boys versus Antifa in 2003.
01:22:12
Speaker
A real Marjorie Taylor Green versus AOC. I was going to say Marjorie Taylor Green versus like high school musical subjects. I don't know. That'd be Lauren Boebert. Never mind. This is high school musical. All right. Well, thank you for listening. And if you enjoy the show, share it with a friend, preferably a friend that's still going to talk to you after they listen to it, they're not going to file a report at work.
01:22:41
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If you're going to share it with a coworker, just be very cautious. That's all I would say. Cause I don't even share this with my coworkers. So I get why you might not, but Jeremiah does cause he's a peach. He's a wonderful man and he does so anyways, regardless of the consequences.
01:22:58
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It helps to be an environment where there's it is funny when you're like doing this. It's like I have it's like this feels like a different world than where I work. Like I don't work. You even Casey work in a pretty like just culturally Christian environment. There is nothing culturally Christian about where I am.
01:23:17
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And nothing about what I'm doing here would make sense to 99% of the people who I would brush shoulders with at work. They'd be like, what? Some might say that's at the heart of our educational problems in the US. And they might. And I might say that's why Massachusetts generally does better with education than the places that think that we're the problem. How do you do it growing food?
01:23:41
Speaker
Oh, pretty good. There's actually a lot of farms in Massachusetts. There's a lot of lobsters. You just pull them out of the water. We'll all succeed. We'll all succeed. And you guys have fun boiling your belts and shoes. The United States of New England would succeed quite well, I believe. You can't succeed unless like 15 other states between you and the water want to. Whatever the Midwest is doing.
01:24:09
Speaker
This is just me ceremonially slapping the aquifer and saying like, we got at least eight good years left in this bad boy. If we could take New England plus like New York, we're fine. I mean, we could easily sustain our own economy. Well, you'd probably just, yeah, by voting to be a new province for Canada. No, independent of Canada, but we still have universal health care.
01:24:37
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Oh, and, uh, if you're not in our discord, you should join it. It's fun. You know what? There's a lot of cool people in there that you can talk to and share, uh, event about whatever, you know, your, your mom's trying to get you to do, or you can post a cool shirts like mine that you find at Walmart or you could talk with me and a couple others about how awesome tears of the kingdom is. If you're a legend of Zelda fan.
01:25:05
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or you could just sit in the shadows and uh you know the link is in the is in our uh link tree it's on our it's on our instagram so you can go there and find our discord and join up it's fun so do that have a great rest of your memorial day and we will see you next