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Season 4- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Premiership Final Preview)
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It is a very brief Fantasy Corner for this week, so I'll keep this brief. Find out what needs to happen in the CYL Fantasy Prem league on TRM and where we see this week's lineup stacking up for the final weekend. Plus a preview of this weekend's action. Grab a pen, if you need to and have at friends!
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Welcome and Fantasy Rugby Game Introduction
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody. Welcome back. It is the fancy rugby game. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben. We got an abbreviated and late, um, fancy corner. So thank you all for being patient with us. Um, shit happens. What are you going to do? Um, what happened again this year? Probably not. No, too little time left. Well, this is the last weekend for fantasy. So that's also true. More of that. That's also true. Um, cool. So we got,
Leicester vs. Saracens TRM Final Discussion
00:00:34
Speaker
one thing to really talk about this weekend, and that is, um, Lester and series in the final on TRM. Um, we also got to talk about the, you know, the champion's leaderboard, which, uh, which I'm going, which I was getting to right now. Shut up. Nobody asked you. Nobody asked you.
Fantasy Points Strategy and Tactics
00:00:52
Speaker
Um, so right now it's, yeah, it's, there was literally zero movement. Um,
00:00:58
Speaker
I think the high score of the week did go to Mark, or no, George, excuse me, George digging himself out. Ticking slings, man. Like I told him, I was like, swing, swing big, man. What's the last...
00:01:14
Speaker
ranking that gets points. He's in one right now. He's getting points? I think so. I think he's getting one. A seven? I thought seven didn't get it. Oh, no. You know what? It might be six. Right. It'd be six. So if he can get to six, he's got a point. He needs to be characterized by 121 points.
00:01:31
Speaker
might be done, but worse in the moment. So right. Just saying. Yeah, he did. Yeah, I mean, didn't do anything otherworldly. I think tizard at five was something that took more stones than I had. So I would I wish I had done that. And I had not and I was dumb and did not put forward and I put feral and so but yeah, I did. I put feral at
00:01:57
Speaker
at 12, I did that at the center. So I had, I had to kind of get the best of both worlds there. Ford had 40, Farrell had 26 with the K. So Ford having 40 without a K is, well, fucking, I'll take that. And then Farrell with the K getting 26 as a center, like that, I felt like that was a snag because there weren't really, the centers didn't do so hot this week. No, most centers did poorly, Sands, Nick Tompkins.
00:02:26
Speaker
Right. That was my one problem was that I didn't put, I, Tompkins was on, he was on my bench and I started Esterhasing. Had I done, you know, had I flipped them, that's a fucking, but it's Esterhasing. So let's just kind of go through this in our brains here or talk it out. Prop or is it Genshin both in one of the series or is it both series?
00:02:52
Speaker
No, Genge has to be in there. Okay. So it's, yeah, and then it's flip a coin, you know, but that makes it, to me, that makes it easy because, like, first off, Mako and Vincent Koch are going to do well. This is just the way they, you know, they're going to get ball in hand, they're going to run.
00:03:08
Speaker
So I kind of I'm leaning now more towards cock because he's been playing like 70. He's been clearly playing 70 minutes, whereas Mako comes out first. So that's that's kind of my you know, my my differentiator there. Right.
00:03:25
Speaker
But either way, you get one of them and you get the other point, the half the points for the other. It's going to work out either way. You know what? Like cock gets 40, Mako gets 30 and I start one and they only get 20 from, from cock off the bench. I'll take it. Fucking take it. And don't then just, cause really the difference isn't that is negligible. Cause if, you know, it's.
00:03:46
Speaker
you know, 30, that's 50 points there as opposed to 40, like 55 or 60 or something like that. So you're not really, you're talking about five or so points swing, either one. So don't worry about it. Um, looking at hook jinx or Montosha.
00:04:08
Speaker
Well, Ezekiel is starting. So Jinx. Yeah. And that's, that's the one thing like who's who ruins line outs more. Right. And as of late, it has been the two other guys, Maro and Ezekiel over Chester and Green. It's not like the two cookers themselves aren't equal by any means whatsoever, but in terms of who's going to get those line out wins, it might be Jinx more than Montosia and that might be it.
00:04:30
Speaker
And Jinx is much more of a danger in the loose. Montoja is he's good defensively.
Choosing Hookers: Jinks vs. Montoya
00:04:35
Speaker
I mean, they both are. But Montoja is not one to go for a scoot so much. He's the one who will get the try off the mall. So if the Saracens can neuter that, Liam, that's what you're looking for, that the different as the differentiator. Will George get a line out mall try? Maybe, but we saw that Ben Earl poached that one last week. So, you know, but he's still George still.
00:05:00
Speaker
ran out, he still had a, what? Um, yeah. 35 points. So I guess Montoya is what 25, 26. So yeah, that's, um, 25. So I think that'll, that'll, that'll stay. Montoya will score. Okay. George will score more. Um, in terms of second row is all the chess or column green anywhere in the conversation between the other two or three that you can play at second row from series. No.
00:05:27
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think so either. Chesa maybe is the only one of the two.
00:05:30
Speaker
but that's it. I don't think he scores well. He scores. Okay. Let me see. I mean, I'm just like, I know he scores when he starts, right? I think that's the thing. He needs to start obviously. Yeah. He's okay. He has had some good, good. Yeah. It's just a decent games. He had 28, 39, 26, 24, 21. And to end the season, you can't one being the worst one, right? Okay. That's fair. And even off the bench against Quincy at 24, right?
00:05:59
Speaker
It came on at 36 minutes. It came on after half. That's pretty good. That's pretty impressive. And he scores well
Evaluating Back Row Players
00:06:08
Speaker
from the, uh, the flank position too. Yeah. And even, and even eight. So like his best, his best recent match was when he was a six against saris. So there you go.
00:06:18
Speaker
And he has to get a try. He had, let me see, how many? Only two meters. So it's not like that. That would have made a big difference. So it was probably defensive or line out. Like, got a mobile line there. Or I think that was one where they kicked it over the line. And I think he fell on it, if I'm not mistaken. Sometimes that works. If I'm remembering correctly. And sometimes I do. So of the back three eligible players here,
00:06:47
Speaker
I love Tommy Rafael. I don't think he's a fancy asset. So we'll dismiss him. That leaves five guys on the other side, between the two that you can pick from here, between Theo Earl, Bonapola, Jasper Beeson, and Levenberg. And none of those are necessarily terrible choices. I think Ben Earl needs to be in everybody's team, number one.
00:07:10
Speaker
Right. I think anybody that doesn't pick him is stupid. Right. And then so now you have two two players for two spots. And it's like, yeah. And the problem the real. So here's the here's the big.
00:07:25
Speaker
kapoop is, is it eight? Cause Jasper visa and Billy are only eights. So you don't have the option to play one at say like six. So that's, and so you're starting one. And so in my opinion, because of the way these teams line up, you're starting one of them and the other one's on your bench. I don't think there's any way around that. So, but then, and then you're obviously you have Earl. So then the question is,
00:07:53
Speaker
to me like
Fantasy Team Composition and Player Placement
00:07:56
Speaker
leaving to me that what what what snacks of is again you think about the way the the points work out I would I think I'm gonna go with half of Liebenberg's points on the bend you know put them on the bench and I'm gonna start you know Maro and Nick and and Theo yeah and you and you can
00:08:15
Speaker
If you really wanted to, though, and you wanted to get all those players involved, you could, in theory, get all five of those players involved. But the problem is you're putting Theo McFarland as your second-row replacement.
00:08:30
Speaker
Right, I guess that's the problem. Yeah, because you can't. What is that can't put Leibenberg can't leave get Leibenberg there so you have to pick probably so maybe at that point I'm putting chess and yeah chess and in the, that might be the play is I'm putting chess and at the backup lock position. And then visa. I mean I'm going like.
00:08:49
Speaker
It's not that I think Saris will win. It's that again, this is about points. So Billy, I think is going to get more points than Jasper Visa. And Jasper might get a yellow because again, that was a thing. We do know. Yeah. And Billy's got just yellow out of the way too. That's the thing. Right. One out of five, already done.
00:09:07
Speaker
I will say Jasper was acting like a knob until the pressure was a little off. Once the pressure comes off, he can play all right. This match, the pressure will not come off in this match the way it did in the other one.
00:09:23
Speaker
Yeah, maybe that's the mitigating factor right there that you want to risk less with that. Exactly. Unfortunately, at Scrumhalf, it's not a tantalizing pick by any means because both the good ones lost. It's probably Davies because Wiggles just doesn't do anything. He really doesn't. And that's not to say that Davies is otherworldly by any means whatsoever.
00:09:46
Speaker
So, but then you go to 10. Young's might stay on my bench. That's a possibility. Like. Yeah. His, his 20 to 40 minutes might be more valuable than Wiggles 20 to 40 minutes or 40 to 60. Excuse me. Or six 40 to 60. Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:04
Speaker
So is that and then you go to 10. And this is where we can do. I think more a lot of people will be very tempted to do the four to 10, fail at 12, give fail the K scenario. And I don't think there's I think this is an awesome place to do it. And so from that, you have both obviously. So you pick the you pick, you know, maybe you pick Wigglesworth or or Ben sale as your backup 10, quote unquote, or somebody else. I'm putting Guy Porter.
00:10:31
Speaker
That's going back up 10. Can you go as 10 centers? So that, that backup, that's a 10 or a center. Oh, okay. Scrum half. I have center is that, that, that other position. Oh, well then nevermind. Forget that. So Porter is my, my, my 21. Right. So then you have, in my opinion, like in terms of the guys that are center eligible, it's gotta be Tomkins, right? Yep.
00:10:53
Speaker
You know, yeah, as you know, he's on my bench because yeah, and that's, you know, that's again, I'll take half of their points and along with, with Tompkins and Farrell as my starters, like that's just, just business. It has no, you know, I, I still think Moroni and Porter could score well, although I think the Sarri's defense is a little bit better. Again, they're, they're one of the top fantasy defenses. And so we're Lester this year.
00:11:20
Speaker
So yeah, but that's opposed as opposed to Northampton who right of the four teams last week were definitely the worst. Right. And still Lester didn't score all that great outside of a few few players. So they're just not like they're getting their good defense, but they're not good attacking side either. You know, outside of your Genge and Montoja and Ford, Stewart has come on like Moroni and Potter are good, but they're not in
00:11:45
Speaker
Tompkins League, you know, that nobody, you know, Melons, I think, and Alex Goode could have a great game if they're if they're kicking this much. Yes, this is Yeah, it could be good. Goody in there. Yep. So is it? So is it max? And who else at this point for your back three?
00:12:02
Speaker
To me, it's max goodie and steward are my back. I definitely had steward in my brain and you're, you're, you're leading me toward dogs. Good right now. So yeah, I'll have to make this, he's going to get a chance to run and you know how he likes to, um, rather than kick when he, when he wants to chip, he'll do that little chip over, but he's one of those ones. He wants to roll with ball in hand. You just got to shake off those cement shoes every once in a while.
00:12:23
Speaker
Yeah, it does look like he's running a quick stand every once in a while. He tried, he makes a few too many moves at this point when his skill is just, he needs to go back to the one cut, the, you know, one cut and then just run, run, run, run, run. It's his own blocking scheme, one cut and go. Exactly. Exactly.
00:12:45
Speaker
So yeah, any, anybody on, we've talked about Ben Young's. Is there anybody else on the bench that you're considering in case something else happens? Uh, let me look at, I hadn't looked at the bench so much. Um,
00:13:01
Speaker
I think Ben's, I think Ben Young's is kind of on point for your backup score now. Yeah. Wells is a potential, but at the same time, I'd rather just like, if I'm going on my bench, I'd rather have Chasm. Right. Like there's nobody, there's nobody,
Player Matchups and Performance Predictions
00:13:14
Speaker
there's enough people, you know, between Morrow, Nick, Theo and Chasm. There's four there. You can only start three of them really. So one of them is going to go to the bench. So Wells is, he'd be the guy, but there's too much in front of him.
00:13:31
Speaker
Yeah, yep. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, and there's nothing as much as I love the guys on the bench for sherry sands one or two. Yeah, no. And and I love Chris Ashton, but like this matchup, I just love the mashups that they're there here. Ashton versus Maitland. Oh, I'm taking Maitland's defense like he won't. Yeah, he's you know, he's pretty good.
00:13:58
Speaker
Yeah, it's almost like they flip the wings too at this point as well. It is. Yeah, Ashton versus Maitland. I don't like that matchup for Ashton because he's... A, he's not... Yeah, I don't think he's got Maitland speed-wise exactly anymore. And I think a lot of people would accept that. And Maitland to me is a defensive specialist at 11. So he's out there more for his defense. But also,
00:14:26
Speaker
you know, the Maitland attacking Ashton, I think, is also kind of a little mismatch, too, because Ashton's not the best defender and Maitland can scoot a little bit. So I think it'll be interesting to see which one of them gets the best of each other. And either way, I'm not thinking I'm thinking that they nullify each other. So they're off my board as far as
00:14:50
Speaker
to what I would I start on this week. Right. No, I agree with that whole heartedly. Yeah. And Stuart will get his runs because Harry's like to kick. Right. And we'll get to run. So there's there's there's all sorts of options back there. There is. So I'm staying away from those two and Potter, too. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm not. He's he's not over Potter. He's not bad, but he's not the guy you're going to rely on. I mean, who's with the most tries in the prem this year?
00:15:19
Speaker
guy on the other side of the field there. Yeah, Maxi. So you go with the guy who's been doing it.
00:15:25
Speaker
Yep. All right. Um, so you can't disappear like Potter can. You can't put on a cloak of invisibility at a staircase, but, um, like Potter, but he can score tries this again. Um, yeah. So we're already on the picking kids. Um, so prem final lesser and series.
Premiership Final Analysis: Leicester vs. Saracens
00:15:50
Speaker
I, I can't wear this kit and not back them. So yeah.
00:15:55
Speaker
Again, the matchups, what's fascinating to me is the one thing that, if Sarri's run an attack, if they don't get it bogged down into trying to play field position with kicks,
00:16:11
Speaker
A that hasn't worked for them this year, flat out. They've been better when they've just been running. And then when the, when they get the defense, a little disrupted, they either go for the jugular or they kick. And that's how they plead to chip it ahead and play field position that way. Boom. Do that. But when the defense is set and you're kicking, they get fucked every time. Now you look at the team across from them now with Wigglesworth Ford, Stewart, like
00:16:37
Speaker
they're set up, but it looks like to me, Lester are set up more to play that, you know, that, hey, we'll kick, we'll get into a kicking battle with you. And if Sarries get lulled into that, it won't go well for them. So to me, it's like, you know, McCall, I would assume has to know that and he knows what his team can do. And then you look at their lineup and they're not putting Elliott Daley at 13 because of his kick chase.
00:17:07
Speaker
No, probably not. So, um, and, you know, Sean Maitland is, is your, you know, that's your guy who you kind of put the bombs up for in this. Um, but those are the guys you put the bomb up. He's not your, again, not kick chase. He's your, you know, kick receive, you know, the bomb, bomb diffusing type, get up there and pull it down. Um,
00:17:28
Speaker
not asking them to run with it. So that's, I think it looks to me like that's the way fairies are going, especially to have Theo at six. I mean, this is, this is a team that's built to run. So, oh, I don't know that Lester are built to, to stop that. So it's like, Lester have done this where they forced saris into, you know, whatever saris plan is before looking at this lineup, I'm running at them if I'm serious because kicking won't work. So you've kind of,
00:17:55
Speaker
And unless Lester defense can hold and or they really keep Sarri's in that game, Lester have almost kind of sealed their own fate to me. Like you're forcing Sarri's into the one way that they should smoosh you. Not the way I would go, but at the same time,
00:18:14
Speaker
It's a risk and it's still, it's a gamble and gambles sometimes pay off. I don't know how else at that other point is, I don't know how else Lester can win this the way saris are playing. They have to, I mean, they have to try and attack. Obviously it's the kicking game, the kicking game. I think we can just say it's going to be a neutral.
00:18:36
Speaker
Outlet and if that's what we get, then it's going to be like a 10 three game and it's going to suck. And I hope that's not what we get. That's what we deserve better. We deserve better. So agreed. Yeah. But the more points that are scored in this match, the better the chance Saris have of winning it. Right. But and then so. Yeah, if we're looking at, you know, first team to 20.
00:18:56
Speaker
is going to have the upper hand, then, yeah, the Tigers are going to have to attack. They can't just sit on it. So we'll see as far as that goes. But it should be exciting either way. I'm going to look forward to it. Oh, yeah. We got to sort out where we're watching it. Yeah, we'll do that. Blues and Crusaders.
Super Rugby Final Preview: Blues vs. Crusaders
00:19:17
Speaker
Super rugby final. We talked about it a little bit beforehand in the previous pod.
00:19:22
Speaker
Yeah, I just, I like one through 23, I like the blues better. And, you know, I'm looking at A to A plus for the blues and for Crusaders, I'm looking at like A minus to B plus. So that's not to say that, you know, they're awful, but like, this is not the team that you want to be putting your hand up and say, yeah, they're totally going to win the Super Rugby final no matter what. It's not.
00:19:52
Speaker
And they now have a team across from them that can take them down. And they've already done it in Christchurch. They've done the hard part. They did it in enemy territory. They get to host it at home. And to say that, oh, well, they haven't been in a final. They got to the final. Granted, it was the Trans-Tasman. It was a very abbreviated competition. They got to there. So they have a little bit of experience under their belt.
00:20:15
Speaker
They've won some big games already. That game last week probably prepared them to pucker up just a little bit more. Right. That's a championship effort to win when the game is on the line against a championship level team. And I don't think Crusaders have done that. I don't think Chiefs, I expressed my displeasure with the Chiefs. That was not a championship performance that they put in.
00:20:41
Speaker
that was right there for them and they didn't take it. So that speaks a lot to me for the crusaders. They're not the machine they once were. They still can do crusaders things if you let them.
00:20:52
Speaker
You know, I think I think there I think the I think the blues are over that spell. Yeah, there's no reason for the blues. They don't have that, you know, that who do cast on them right now. So, yeah, just play your game. I mean, just the wave after wave of attack that's coming against the, you know, against the Crusaders. I mean, you know, so to to that that pair was beautiful. So was the tribe like Billy Christie's has obviously earned his way into national conversations. Right.
00:21:20
Speaker
Bowdoin, AJ Lamb is a threat, no doubt about it. Two of us are Czech, yes. You have two Ioannes out there, I'm sorry, I missed the other one. And then, you know, Talaya Perafetta, that just, that's, you know, I like Hevelian Goodhue, but
00:21:41
Speaker
He's not that good for me this year. Yeah. And good. He was just still coming off injury. He's quite good, but still coming off injury. So that that should be a worry. So, and you know, the like.
00:21:52
Speaker
their question marks are a little bit, to me, more question mark-y than the Blues. And right. Well, I look no further than the front row for either team. Honestly, you know, you look at La Lala and Hodgman as the starters, and then you have Tuo Nook Wa Fe and Tuo Ngo Fasi on the other side. And then you look at, you know, the Crusaders. And none of them excite me by any means whatsoever. And I understand that you don't need to be that excited about a front row, but at the same time, like,
00:22:21
Speaker
You're talking about four guys that could be potentially national, you know, national team players. And on the other side, I think there's one or two. Like, we're talking, you know, any of them on the level of Vincent Koch. Like, for the Crusaders now. No. And that's like... No, no, no.
00:22:40
Speaker
But I would say, you know, and yeah, I'd say like the Tawunga Fasi and Tewu Nukuafes and yeah, Lalala's and Hodge, it's like all of them are like, yeah, you know what, they belong at that level. And their standouts at that level. And that's not the same. So that means that the goal kicking doesn't come into as a big of an effect of anything. It swings to the blues because they're going to be able to buy some penalties from time. They definitely will.
00:23:06
Speaker
I agree with that. I need to look at this because I'm going to fucking email words if I don't. Who's referring to this fucking thing? Oh, do you do too? Come on. Oh, come on now. Somebody's going to tell me who the hell is referring to this goddamn thing. Because if it's okay, all bets are off. I hope it's Gus Gardner, honestly.
00:23:36
Speaker
Gemma, we can do this. Match page. Yeah, I don't see it. It doesn't. Unhelpful. Hold on. Let's see if we can find some news. Oh yeah, that might be in. Oh no. Uh oh. It's okay.
00:24:05
Speaker
Ugh. Gross. Well, fuck that. Never mind. Spin the wheel and see what happens. But I still pick the Blues. Yeah, I still pick the Blues. No question. Yeah, I don't think that they'll... Yeah, I can't pick the Crusaders. They gave up too many opportunities and that the Blues will... More than likely capitalize on. Yeah, agreed.
00:24:31
Speaker
Damn.
Closing Remarks and Future of the Podcast
00:24:32
Speaker
Oh, like I said, short sweetened to the point, kids. Yeah, that's where we're at. That's the time of year we're at. Not mad about it, but at the same time, it's, you know, probably not quite the juice that everybody's coming for. So, but we do appreciate everybody for hanging out with us.
00:24:48
Speaker
Yeah. So again, keep your eye, keep your eyes peeled on Quincy on Sunday. Cause I'll tell you how many more of these we're going to do. Um, and then, but we keep on weekend, all kinds of, yeah, my heart, my heart rate's going to go through the roof here. Um,
00:25:04
Speaker
But yeah, so either way, we will talk to you next week. After that, we'll see. We appreciate y'all. We will talk to you all soon and enjoy the finals all around and go watch some MLR playoffs too. Go free Jess. Go free Jess. Later.