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Season 4- Episode 1- WE BACK!
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It is the Season 4 debut. We hope you've missed us because we surely have missed the heck out of you. On the very first episode of Season 4 (wait..how many!?) we dive into all the things from this past summer. Summer Tours? Yup! Lions? Yup! MLR Final? Yup! Eagles? Yup! All this, much more, and, do coaches really need to give so much of a damn about 1 or 2 tests? Or do many lose sight of the big picture until a Rugby World Cup year arrives? Tune in to find out what YOUR favorite American rugby knuckleheads have to say.
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Podcast Relaunch & Patreon
00:00:09
Speaker
We're back. It is a fantasy roadie yanks. Yeah, I hope you all miss us. It is a fantasy roadie yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. I really hope that you guys are ready for a season because we have a lot to go through here. This is gonna be primarily us.
00:00:25
Speaker
catching up on everything we didn't talk about over the last few months. So that's why it's a dedicated one pods. We're not doing anything else. Nothing else. Okay. So if you're here for prem shit next week, future rugby will be in the future. Yes. Yeah. We'll, we'll do that. In the meanwhile I'm thirsty. So let's drink.
00:00:45
Speaker
So if you are so inclined, because you guys know we love a beer, you're going to have a chance to donate to our beverage fund. We're going to be starting some form of Patreon.
00:01:01
Speaker
format here, most of the stuff you usually hear us talk about, you'll still get, don't worry about that. It's next level shit that we're even for now. Because hey, if we're not getting better or if we're not trying to get better, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, I was thinking
Stats & Support for Creators
00:01:17
Speaker
about tracking some of the stuff and I thought, you know what, maybe somebody might pay me to do some of this. So it's like, hey,
00:01:24
Speaker
Look, we're going to have a bunch more statistical analysis for those who follow us on the Twitters every so often. I don't think it's every Friday when we post our starts and sits, but every so often we'll post your scores, the team defenses. And so you can have points against by position, things like your position group.
00:01:46
Speaker
That's like that. I mean, there's going to be that scratching the surface, right? That's scratching the surface is going to be a whole bunch of other stuff. I don't want to start promising it yet. I'm still proving it all out. But yeah, we will do some something with Patreon for this season. That'll give you some, you know, not not expensive, but, you know, a beer or so here or there. So it's all we appreciate. That's all we want. Everything you won't find anywhere else. Yeah.
00:02:15
Speaker
So yeah, we have that. If you hate us enough that you don't want to buy us a beer, buy our friend Georgia coffee because he's always worth the damn thing. He does great content on his website. And if you are paying attention this year, you are likely to end up somewhere in a final somewhere. I promise.
00:02:31
Speaker
TRM
Condemning Racism & Online Abuse
00:02:32
Speaker
upgrades, make sure you grab those because those can be handy, especially with buy weeks in the premiership this year, like pay the hell attention. Okay, you cannot coast through this one this year, you got to freaking pay attention to that stuff. And TRM is definitely going to help you there. So please, please grab, get yourself an upgrade and do those guys a favor. I think they're still putting stuff towards RPA, if I'm not mistaken, but I could be wrong about that. I don't know.
00:02:57
Speaker
Um, they did last year, so I presume they do this year, but beats the shit out of me. I don't know. I don't know nothing.
00:03:04
Speaker
as always black lives matter on this podcast and there is no room for racism and fucking hell. I mean, did you see the Marcus Smith and Maro Toge cross up like you can't get where you are. Yeah. I'm sorry. Jesus. I just did it too. Sorry. You want to talk to everyone who wants to talk about Marcus Smith, too. And I'm a Marcus Rashford fan. So I feel really embarrassed having just done that. But the Marcus Rashford and Maro Toge cross up like
00:03:30
Speaker
They don't look a thing alike. They really don't. Like, that's bad. Like that. Yeah. That is just there's so many things wrong on so many levels that can go very deep. And needless to say that this guy's a complete fuckhead. But that's not a news. It sounds like that's not a new thing. I mean, I think it was. Yeah, I think it was known. He just hired himself as one now. Good job. I'm going
Champions League & Summer Tours
00:03:54
Speaker
to show my ass again.
00:03:57
Speaker
A lot of people have been doing that nowadays. Right. So, yeah, none of that shit. We try not to. Yeah. And, you know, rewind the clock all the way back to euros and the four kids that caught a shitload of fucking, you know, abuse online, like what the fuck, people? New rule. Here's a new rule. If you can't do the thing that you want to abuse somebody about, you know,
00:04:19
Speaker
nine times out of 10, shut up. Shut up. If you can't walk out on that pitch and score that penalty, shut up. End. I don't want to hear it. You can feel upset. You can yell at the TV all you want, but you don't go sending people shit and tagging people and bullshit like that. That's just... God, you could not be more juvenile. Because I guarantee you, they feel worse than you do. 100%. There's nobody that feels worse on this planet than those guys after that one. Trust me.
00:04:45
Speaker
Although I can't say I was sad because Healy was a fun guy to watch, the Italian captain. So I feel bad for the England fans, but man, if somebody else deserved it, he seemed to be the one right there. Okay.
00:05:01
Speaker
Good news, our second tier of Champions League is full. Thank you guys, everybody that decided to join on Bob, Terry, Lianu, Cobas, John, Yuri, Larry, and Franco. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Hang on to your seats.
00:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, it'll be a fun year. Yeah, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a year. It's gonna be a year. So we, we obviously talked about FRD starts. Yeah, whenever that might be. Pull their head, talk about pulling your head out of your ass. Obviously, we've just teased a little bit about what's going on this season. But also, also, you're not going to listen to us once, but twice this year, because we are going to do
00:05:42
Speaker
1UP where we just talk about games and what happened in the world and all that good stuff. And then we're going to do 1UP. If you are just here to listen to us babble about fantasy bullshit, that'll be your episode right there. Okay. We'll drop one one day and we'll drop one the next. So just keep your eyes and ears posted to your feeds wherever you get your podcasts.
00:06:01
Speaker
So that's what that's the plans for us. And they should be a little more digestible. Hopefully, 45 minutes, right? 45 minutes segments, instead of our 15 minute full pod. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can get more information out and not bore you to tears. That's the that's the general aim, at least out here. You know, I definitely I'm definitely not aiming to get tears. You know, I do I can do it very well if I want to, but I don't plan on doing it that way.
00:06:27
Speaker
Okay, we'll get to the particular summer tours. But let's get to other summer tours that we missed. You want to start with like France and Australia. I thought that was a very good very good series that was played. French showed a lot considering who was left at home. So while Australia were very happy and deservedly so with taking the series. Yeah, I think everybody needs to remember that there were so much missing from that French team and it should be terrifying what they had.
00:06:56
Speaker
And what they still brought anyway is scary. Yep. So I mean, the players that. And there we are to prep and to host a World Cup and there they want to do. They want to pull a Tampa Bay box because who doesn't win the ship at home? Yeah.
Rugby Hooker Dilemma & Praise for All Blacks
00:07:14
Speaker
Tramper Bay. Well. Tramper Bay. Hopefully I went to bed off them this year. Nice. Yeah, like.
00:07:25
Speaker
the French have so much going for them. And it's crazy to think of, I mean, it isn't, it is because it's, it's, it's so schizophrenic. So it's like you have this, they're, they're good, but then they, they, they go French on you for like a match here or there as they do in six nations and all that. So like, you kind of, you still have to expect that, but the talent and the, the play is so much better. Like bringing in that structure has,
00:07:51
Speaker
improved them so much and it doesn't like that. I really want people to understand and coaches to get that just because you have a structure doesn't mean you lose the freewheeling and freelancing. If anything, it helps it out because you know someone's going to be in a specific spot.
00:08:09
Speaker
And as the French players get used to doing that and still having that quote French flair, which I just think is they make fun passes. Yeah, they just chuck the ball around a little bit sometimes. Yeah, it's that much better. So instead of throwing, hey, maybe there's someone there, I'll just throw the pass there. No, someone's job do be right there. So they fucking better be there.
00:08:35
Speaker
Consequently, there is one glaring thing that's come up both for Australia during that and during the recent matches is the hooker position. They are in dire need of somebody to step up because I can't say I've been impressed with anybody that's gone there for two for Australia.
00:08:56
Speaker
That's, it seems to be a widespread problem now. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's becoming a down season for downtime for hookers. It's not the golden age of it. It's weird. Cause it's like the same. It's not the hookers really haven't changed all that much. No, those well, especially for them, they've been the same thing for guys that have rotated through. Although, um, Rocky Lonergan is, is a new one, but that's about it. You know, he's the only new blood to that, to that, to that position for them.
00:09:25
Speaker
Right. But if we look around the world, I mean, I mean, yeah, Rory Best retired. That's that's huge. But even the Irish hookers aren't really the best in the lineup and shit. Like it's just I feel like it's everywhere. Yeah. It's the first team that actually are a country that can actually grow some.
00:09:45
Speaker
real hookers will have a significant advantage. Nobody can fucking throw a line out anymore. No, it seems to be a lost art at this point. You know, it's really, it's really terrifying. And it's crazy to think about that because so many tries come off. I think more tries come off of line
US Team Europe Performance & Marcus Smith
00:10:00
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outs than scrums, right? So I believe so. Yeah. Like you need.
00:10:04
Speaker
That all starts with the throw, right? You can have the best lift and you should at that point at that level. The lift should never be a problem with those that level of players and the ability to ball family ability to pop it off the top like that. You got to get the throw and they just don't do it. No. So then we had a couple of we had.
00:10:25
Speaker
Also, we had the All Blacks and Fiji and Samoa. And there was a little bit of shithouse going on in that one, but I thought the Pigeons did themselves a service with the games that they played, man, but it's their usual problem. They just, they have a hard time putting together 23 players. Yeah. So, you know, that's the unfortunate part of that and putting together 80 minutes at that. So, yeah, right. Yeah. So it, fingers crossed that gets over the line Saturday.
00:10:51
Speaker
Yeah, at least they weren't playing the best team in the world. Oh, wait, wait a minute. And yeah, I mean, also take that with what that's worth, because it's, you know, it's there. It's New Zealand. It's not nobody by any means whatsoever. And then up in the northern hemisphere, we had we had a couple of North American teams jaunt over to to the to the to the Euros.
00:11:16
Speaker
The US acquired themselves once quite well, second time not so much. But yeah, I mean, the one thing I loved about the England performance was Gary Gold's press conference afterwards, where he was enthusiastic, he was optimistic, but he was also very realistic and he wanted more.
00:11:37
Speaker
He always he wants more. He always demands more of this team, whether or not to give it to him is a different story. We'll talk about that a little bit. But yeah, like there was a lot that I that I love even guys that there were a lot of guys that stepped up that I was like, huh, he's useful. That's good. Didn't know that was a thing. Right. But we saw the one like glaring weakness in that team at headquarters was frickin Mike Teo, like,
00:12:06
Speaker
What the hell? He at least cost us two, if not three tries. Yeah, he's not good. No, he's not. And anyway, how we got to be MLR player of the year, I haven't got a slightest clue. I know that doesn't make any sense. But no, doesn't mean people. I'm sure he's a likable guy. And he's kind of he can be fun to watch when he's doing something good. But that's so fucking rare. Yeah.
00:12:28
Speaker
Like on attack too. Yeah, it's yes, exactly. But it's a problem. And but even an attack, he'd like, you know, he holds the ball like a loaf of bread and loses it and shit like that. He does stupid stuff. Like he might be talented, but he does things that only bad rugby players do. Let's change that, shall we? Yeah.
00:12:47
Speaker
So I, I liked, you know, there was, there's a lot to like about what England did too. There was some great, there was some great performance put in. Obviously we saw Marcus Rashford finally get his first cap. God's sake. That was way too long coming. Did you, did you, did you do it again? What did I do? Now you called Marcus Smith, Marcus Rashford. Did I? Yeah. Oh shit. Marcus. Look at me. Oh man. I am so fucked up.
00:13:14
Speaker
We're off to a false start here. We're off to a great start here. Hey, look, at least you're consistent. You're just the guys in the sport, the same guys in the same, in the two sports, completely. Crossing them up. But yeah, Marcus Smith, sorry, Jesus, Marion, Joseph, God help us all. What a year he had. What a like month. Yeah, that's true. From the year he had in a month.
00:13:35
Speaker
Yeah. Right. From permission final to, you know, even that someone we're winding it back to that semi final that he led, you know, and then, and then going all the way to the lines tour. Pretty, pretty ridiculous. So yeah, that was, that was pretty absurd to say the least. Um, and then see him get a cap and yeah.
Critique of Lions Tour & Rugby Rules
00:13:55
Speaker
First of many, just keep them there. It's not that fucking hard. Please, please, please. And fortunately for the Canadians, we pissed them off because they had already taken a tonking over in Wales. And then they came over to England and England were angry because Eddie Jones was not happy after that second half that the US put in. I think we won the second half, if I'm not mistaken in that match. So, yes. Yeah, Eddie Jones was not happy and he made it very clear to his England team that
00:14:24
Speaker
they shouldn't be either. And they took it out on on poor old Canada. So yeah, Canada took a couple of talkings over in Europe. But that's, you know, that happens. Sometimes, you know, and they didn't bring
00:14:36
Speaker
They didn't bring a whole lot in terms of the European contingent. 99% of their team was from MLR. So that didn't help. Helps those players in their careers and their experience, but in terms of performance on the field in those two matches. But you're not going to win those even with your
00:14:55
Speaker
um overseas guys anyway if you're canada so absolutely the right decision let these guys you know get get blooded literally quite yeah couple of them definitely yeah couple of them definitely she kicked out of you and learned from it that's much better than having guys who know what it's like um and and you have it's always cool to play for your country it's you it's amazing um
00:15:19
Speaker
But if they're not available, then okay, move forward with the guys you have, because you're going to be depending on those guys anyway. Yeah, a couple years here. Yeah. I assume you make it, which I guess they almost will see. Yeah, we'll talk about that a little bit. So let's move on to the unfortunate event that was the Lions tour. And I will be the first to say,
00:15:41
Speaker
There is no one coach that takes the blame right here. There is a coaching issue in this series across the board for both teams. No question about it. Lions, Gatlin all the way down, freaking South Africa, same thing. Like, come on, man. Like both teams. This was ugly rugby and it was both teams fault. Yeah. And it's like, I get,
00:16:07
Speaker
Like, that's not a series I would be proud of winning. Like, either side. If either side had won that last match, it's not... Flush it. Yeah. I'm just glad it's over.
00:16:21
Speaker
I get that, you know, you win, but if you don't put out a product that fans can watch, and you know what, I will say this. It is not, I'm coming to the conclusion that it really isn't South Africa's fault, for the most part. It's fucking, they have this hypnosis that they do on these teams. Like, so Gatlin, you know, he, ah.
00:16:45
Speaker
He kicks ass. The team goes out and whoops, whips ass when they play it open, you know, when they play something open, but then they just go into the shell and then they lose. And it's like, well, how about you learn what works? Like talking New Zealand. Tonking South Africa and the World Cup, you know, not by playing that everyone, you know, that style that that tight up, you know, we're going to do one up hit and then box kick it and hope for the best.
00:17:13
Speaker
they go out and they just play open expansive rugby and win. And then ever since then, everybody else has tightened up and not played that style. And it's like, why wouldn't you do the thing that wins rather than I'm going to, I'm going to make it a fit. It's a 50 50 proposition. If you, if you have that talent like England and the lions do, and they don't do like this gift, use it. Cause they, they, they, they're not that good on defense when you get it wide. Yeah.
00:17:43
Speaker
I don't think New Zealand necessarily kicked the share of South Africa and Japan, but they did beat them in the pool play. I thought they made them pretty handily. No, it was 10 points maybe. Okay, I thought it was more. Oh no, it was not. It was a fairly close match, but yes, they, you know, South Africa have the best winning percentage over New Zealand of any team, but
00:18:05
Speaker
New Zealand still beat them pretty handily usually when they do. And I would say New Zealand's probably the most successful team against South Africa. So there's that. So yeah, it was just, it was not in, you know, there's, there's people out there that are, that are very good at spinning a lot of things into positives. They had nothing for this. They had nothing for this. And I was just like, that pretty much tells me everything you need to know. You know, I don't care.
00:18:33
Speaker
about the numbers and what they say, you know, try scored point scored, the eye tests did not pass. So, and you need, you need to put on like,
00:18:45
Speaker
Look, this summer in the cross the board, rugby is not. Oh, OK, except for the Olympics. We'll get to that. But yeah, outside of that, outside of that rugby has looked terrible and it's not getting better. This whole pro twelves thing, whatever, like, oh, God, getting silly and and stupid. And then we get to the fucking I don't want to touch the Razzie Rasmus thing.
00:19:08
Speaker
No, at all. Everybody, everybody should know the thoughts. And if it's a mystery, you can ask us. Yeah, the thing is he had like
00:19:18
Speaker
There is a point to be made that around what he was saying, but it wasn't the point he was making, and it wasn't the way it was being made. Yes, there is inconsistency, and we'll get to the Geordie Barrett thing a little later too, and that shows more, but that's not, and there's definitely inconsistency between whether in the Northern Hemisphere, when a pass goes forward, they call it forward, the Southern Hemisphere.
00:19:40
Speaker
Not so much. In the northern hemisphere, if you get a tackle up above the shoulder, it's an automatic penalty. If there's force and all that, yellow, red. In the southern hemisphere, if you don't kill the guy, it's not even a penalty. Fairly a penalty, yeah. Yes, there are terrible inconsistencies with the way it's managed. But you also know going into a match,
00:20:03
Speaker
Who's rapping it and what that means, right? If you have a French referee, what does that mean? Well, the breakdown's pretty much wide the fuck open. And don't, you know, make sure you're on his good side of the scrum early, because then he'll be fine with you most, for the most part. You'll get the calls. And expect him to just shit the bed at a meaningful moment, but make sure you're on the good side of it, not the bed. You know that.
00:20:27
Speaker
So play to it, right? Don't don't say, oh, I don't like this penalty. Yes, you're not going to. But that's the way that's the way the game is. Every union, every every country has their own style of play and the referees play to it and fucking deal with it. But the way to do it was not to want, oh, I didn't like these calls against my team. OK, well, then fuck off.
00:20:50
Speaker
Yeah, no shit, dude. Yeah. If it's a safety concern, it's one thing. If it's just a... I don't like this. Don't fucking like it. You don't have to. You don't have to. He's just going to have to live with it. We all do.
MLR Season & Developmental Role
00:21:03
Speaker
He pointed out a... Well, he tried to point and he claims to be pointing out an issue that actually needs to be pointed out that he failed to point out.
00:21:12
Speaker
So yeah, we need to see some consistency, but just to put out an hour long bitch fest that I listened to the height, like I, I, I. I'd help you gave him the respect you didn't deserve of listening to the whole fucking thing. And just like, at no point was I like, this is compelling. And this is this, like, what point did you think this was a good idea? So.
00:21:34
Speaker
Uh, how about, you know, probably about 10 minutes into that. I'd feel so embarrassed for myself that I would just like turn the camera off and never speak of the idea again, but it just went on. Yeah. So, so it was. So yes. Um, flush this line store. We'll all get the fuck out. Um, and I hope the coach is not anybody that was on either staff and none of them deserve it. So fuck that lab. Yeah. Bring him in. Please take that.
00:22:04
Speaker
Okay. Um, let's go to the Olympics. Um, the Olympics in general, it was fantastic. There's no, no argument about that. Um, unfortunately for the U S it was a lot of disappointment for many reasons. Um, I felt like the.
00:22:19
Speaker
I felt like the girls were put into a position that they shouldn't have been with their coaching. And then I felt like the boys played a little bit too much selfish rugby. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Yes, I agree.
00:22:35
Speaker
Yeah, the US team got, I mean, I feel like both teams finished where they deserve to finish. Yeah, in the end, yeah. In the end. And it's not like, it's not to say they were good or bad. It's just that that's where they ranked. Like, it was not a, you know, they weren't the best team there. They were, could have been one of the better teams and they could have performed better, but they didn't.
00:22:59
Speaker
And that's okay. This was a great tournament. This was a lot of extremely good teams. There's no shame in finishing outside of the medals and whatnot. It happens and you go there for the experience too. That was the win. And it really was good rugby.
00:23:19
Speaker
It was so much. It's so great to have like a chaser right around the time of this Lions tour. Yeah. So like to watch these guys play and the ladies play and really just leave it all out there and put on an entertaining show. Every match you like, you just watch, you sat there and watched it and you didn't, it's not like you're like, sometimes when you watch sports, you know, you kind of want to flip around when you're like, these were compelling matches every single one. So,
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah. Great tournament. Fun to watch. Lots of fun. Lots of fun. Our girl, Chrissy Kirsch, grabbed a few. Yes, she did. I think my neighbors were like, what the fuck is this guy yelling at? Because I was yelling when she got that first break. I was like, go!
00:24:03
Speaker
Oh, right. And then the second the second one, she scored at the tournament. She decided she was scoring and there was nobody that was going to stop her. I was like, she decided she's taking us to the house and there was nothing to do. I really appreciate that about like some of the best. So she came to rugby out of the blue, like.
00:24:23
Speaker
three years ago. Something like that. Yeah. She's an athlete. And she's one of the, and she just like has taken to it to like a fish to water. It just makes sense for her, which is awesome to watch. And she's so talented and she's strong. So it's like, yeah, she can beat you in any way. She can, she can step you, she can burn you or she can run you over. And that's, that's a, that's a fucking rugby player right there.
00:24:44
Speaker
And I will say to her credit, she was a good role model for some of the girls that I coach because she actually did a little, did a little sevens and touched with them while the pandemic was kind of winding down her, at least while the lockdowns were starting to wind down. So and they they love her. So good. She said it sounds like she said a good example. So I'm proud to call it a Christy character, Boston girl. And we're happy to have her for sure.
00:25:12
Speaker
Okay, M.O.R. finish. The team we all thought, when's it gonna, won it? Not no shot. No shot. I thought if there was a team that could beat
00:25:27
Speaker
the guillotines, it was probably going to be Rooney, but I knew they were gonna have to get past Atlanta in Atlanta. And I wasn't overly convinced that was going to happen. And sure enough, it didn't. And as soon as Atlanta was the one that got in the final, really, I think Utah probably had of the four teams in the play or the three other teams in the playoffs, they had the best chance to beat those guys. And Nope, didn't do it. Certain certain someone on Utah was at fault again for giving up the
00:25:55
Speaker
Can't imagine who that might have been. The quenching try. Not someone we were talking about earlier. No, somebody that was being very lazy on defense. Shock, shock. So, but, you know, and to nobody, again, to nobody's surprise, you know, Los Angeles won. And it was, I mean, the roster that they had was just
00:26:17
Speaker
Yeah. I'm glad that we have that we have some chance for obviously, you know, most guys you say, hey, you want to come play in Los Angeles? They're going to be like, oh, yeah. But it was it was good in a lot of ways to see this a team, not Seattle win. Thank God.
00:26:42
Speaker
I'm happy that we finally saw TMO in use. I hope that gets approved. Yeah, please, please, please. I know I was an asshole. I was an asshole about it on Twitter, but I don't think what I want and what I'm thinking is wrong. I think my delivery was just pretty terrible, which isn't shocking. It shouldn't shock anybody. Let's listen to me ever talk, ever. So...
00:27:08
Speaker
Yeah, so there was that was great. JP Doyle was a fucking gift from God. Thank Oh, my goodness. That guy was. Yeah, thank you. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Are a few fucking idiots. Yeah. So yeah, I was really, I was really happy to have him and he said he was such a personal guy too. So it was just like,
00:27:28
Speaker
This guy's just here to have fun, but he's doing us a great, great service by being here. So yeah, thanks JP Doyle and Mr. Ensalmy as well as he was a boost to the, to the refereeing stable here, here in the US. Sue. And then it, you know, and all the good things that have come, come with this, you know, we see Vian Canrati getting the contract over in Gloucester, which is amazing. And he's projected, he's projected to potentially start for Gloucester right now, probably as a six.
00:27:57
Speaker
Um, if I had to guess, cause I think it'll be either. They have injuries. Um, I don't know. They like him. I mean, that, I mean, the full fuck that says a lot. Cause I mean, they've got some, hold on. I mean, I know, I know we're not doing our, our, whatever, but our, um, our friend thing, but didn't like, don't, yeah, they've got a lot of fucking.
00:28:23
Speaker
Yeah, they have some good for him. I mean, I look, I'm not I'm not trying to argue that he shouldn't start. I'm more just confused as like, he would start. I mean, I see him bringing being a pretty decent depth guy. Yeah, definitely. I mean, especially when internationals come along. For sure. Right. Yeah, because like, Jordy reads there. Yes. Jordy and and Louis Ludlow and Ben Morgan and Jake Pileggio. I'm like, those are those four are probably your
00:28:56
Speaker
Ben Morgan's getting older, I will say. He's got that piano back situation going on. Yeah, he's there now. He's to that point, unfortunately.
00:29:05
Speaker
But Seth Nagel-Taylor's who, like, they've got a solid Ron Akerman, Freddie Clark. Fuck. Yeah, but you don't want to play all those guys every week either. So, yeah. Well, no. But I mean, yeah, it's like eight guys that you can just rotate through. Fuck. Good stuff. Good for them. Good for him for being a part of it. Yeah. You know, think about him. And, you know, he was supposed to be on Dallas.
00:29:27
Speaker
Yeah, Dallas folded for the year just to be like, no, you know, this is not the right decision we're going to do next year. So responsible that enabled them to enable those players to go wherever and we were, you know, our back rowers were in trouble because Jack Ram never arrived.
00:29:42
Speaker
Now, Tarim Tembu took a while to get here. I never really got going either. Yeah. So, you know, Kunradi has been just... And he was a blessing. Yeah. Good Lord. He was necessary. He was such a good player.
00:29:58
Speaker
So, that's great. We see the coaches that are going elsewhere too. Ryan Martin's obviously off to Melbourne, sad. The Guillotine, he's god damn it. I can't think of his name. He's off to the Waratahs. Clearly, we've found some decent coaches somewhere around here, which is good.
00:30:21
Speaker
You know, we know the guys that are going to never ever see the light of day once they have one season, but, you know, and we find somebody else, but at the same time, yeah, really good stuff for the most part. You know, I'm enjoying it. And I'm really, really happy that the guys that are getting opportunities got opportunities. And I hope that they all grab it with both hands and don't let go. And we never see them again. Just keep riding it, guys. You'll be good.
00:30:49
Speaker
I mean, it's good to
Rugby Championship Insights & Player Safety
00:30:50
Speaker
be it's good to be a development league, right, if nothing else to like if that's if if if it's people who can prove themselves in the MLR and get contracts over in Europe and elsewhere. Good. You know, that that that's that just means that we're a legit league to write. We're not maybe we're not there yet. We're not at those levels because obviously the players have to go there to get the money and the better.
00:31:13
Speaker
Uh, the better competition, but that's, we're, we're on our way. Yeah. So that's helpful to see. It's so much better than the previous shit house. Sorry. We've. That pro Ruby shit, but shit bag that happened. Barf so much crap. Um,
00:31:32
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, and so let's fast forward in the summer to TRC, blood a slow cup basically is the ones that I've watched all of them. I haven't watched any of the RGT spring box matches and you can yell at me if you want, I don't care. I know the result, so it's not really a surprise. And it's just a little disappointing from the Australians the way they've gone about offering matches and
00:32:02
Speaker
Unfortunately, Lola CEO has really had a tough time off a tee. And that's actually, I think that's one, you know, basically what it comes down to. I think he's a great 10, keep him there. Don't you need a 12 that can kick. You need a 15 that can kick is what it comes down to. Because until he proves that he can do it off the tee, that's got to be somebody else's job. So because he's a great, he's great at wearing the 10 shirt otherwise. So, you know, just get him away from the tee. That's all I would recommend.
00:32:30
Speaker
You know, I mean, he's still young, pooping himself a little bit playing against the I think so. Yeah. Like that's why that's generally why teams do stuff like that, where they'll have like, you know, your Gloucester. That'll have 12 trees kick instead of the 10 or something and stuff like that, where it's like, you know what, let's let the 10 do this. And because we're trying to bring them along and stuff like that, we'll have our grizzled veteran kicks.
00:32:58
Speaker
Yeah, probably would be a good option while while little CEO gets really used to playing at this level. Yep, absolutely. Absolutely, absolutely. And then so let's let's dive into it a little bit. Barrett's red card.
00:33:15
Speaker
I looked at naked eye and I was like, he's gonna be lucky if he stays on the field. Playing simple. That was just the answer to that one in general, as I watched it. I'm like, yep, won't be surprised if he's leaving, he's getting an early bath here. Sure enough, red card came out and they went through the protocols as it's written and yeah.
00:33:37
Speaker
You know, it's a boot to the face. I mean, right? Really? And it was like it was an unnecessary action. The only reason to do that is to back another player off.
00:33:47
Speaker
So you are knowingly risking contact for just for a little bit of self-preservation in a way, like I'd rather have this person take a boot to the face than me take a shoulder to the side while I'm landing or something. And it's like, okay, well, that's what happened. There you go. Oh, he was just standing there and said, but he still wasn't attacking and you just kicked him in the face yet. No, you're,
00:34:17
Speaker
Bye. Yeah, Corbett, you've got the worst end of that one, obviously. Right. And it's like, yeah, that's I woke up to all the tweets of like, that can't be read like this. No, of course it's around. I'm like, oh, you got to be kidding me. OK, let me see this. You know, this must be on the line. And I see the clip of it. I'm like, what the fuck are these people talking about? That's read all day and blah, blah, blah. Like I said, he would have been lucky to stay on the field.
00:34:45
Speaker
Yeah. Or, you know, the only way he sees on the field is if the ref totally cocks it up.
00:34:50
Speaker
That would never happen. Exactly. Never ever in a million years where we have, you know, Ben O'Keeffe, Jaco Piper, Jordan White, just none of them would ever ever fuck that up, would they? Oh, wait. Like we all definitely have. That goes to the point. Yes, there's inconsistencies in an international rugby, because certain certain unions don't
00:35:16
Speaker
aren't consistent with the rules they follow. Like, as you said, they went through, if you go through the protocol, straight red, no question, done. There's no mitigation. There's no anything, just nope.
00:35:27
Speaker
And even if you lay it down to, even if, and you relate it to tackle and just poor technique in the way he took the ball, doesn't matter. It doesn't change anything. It's still a red. It's still a red. If you have a shit technique in tackling, you tackle somebody high, it's a red. Right. It doesn't change anything. It's still a red. You know, on purpose, you know, dickhead or not, a red. Like, I love Jordy Barrett all day. He's a hurricane, so.
00:35:56
Speaker
Duh, but that's red. I was like, oh, as soon as I saw it, I was like, he's not staying on this field. No way, no fucking way. And sure enough, so they got to the right point in the conclusion. And, you know, I saw a headline, something about, oh, 20-minute red card shows its value. I'm like, did you really think that was that borderline that you thought that showed value? Because I disagree. Right. And no, like,
00:36:25
Speaker
thank god the 20 minutes is gone like think about it this way like because we've put it we've put these laws and i guess we'll just kind of move something forward here we've put the laws in place that we have for the one-year trial which means it goes all the way down the club level like
00:36:40
Speaker
I'm about to do that. I'm about to do the girl line dropouts and the 50-22. You'll never see me do either one, but at the same time, that is going to occur in matches that I play in as a club guy. If that 20-minute red card was in effect, I can think of at least 10 dickheads that would take advantage of that. Definitely.
00:37:00
Speaker
you know, so you don't want that on a world rugby trial. Like, no, plan simple. Like, no, sorry. If you want to keep it at the if you want to leave it at the professional and international levels. I first off, I don't like it. But I don't either. But fine. That's a decent compromise. But no, it's not a it's not something that's that's no, that's right.
00:37:22
Speaker
No, no, no, that is not something that should that's gonna sit in the world, right? Because, yeah, I mean, everybody, everybody listening to this right now can think of at least two decades that they played against that would absolutely 100% take advantage of that law, playing simple and they would knock somebody out or break somebody. Yeah, they wouldn't the consequences would be so minor.
00:37:40
Speaker
Right. I there was a guy I played against who eventually like he got this was a guy who finally got banned from from rugby for life. There you go. And at the can and that followed that happening, it was like a couple of weeks later, one of my buddies buddies brought champagne because like there were four of there were four of us that wanted to celebrate this asshole being banned. And like he didn't tell us he was doing it. We were just like, yes, we are drinking to Jarhead being banned. I'm like, fuck, yeah. Fuck that dude. He's a guy who like
00:38:10
Speaker
he would take he would be yeah he's he was a total he needed to go and he ended up actually putting he punched this like 20 year old kid like three times or something like that in a in a sevens tournament um basically an end to this career he's got like a plate in his face now all that he can't play anymore
00:38:29
Speaker
And Jarhead was like 42, 43 at a time. And it's like, it took that to ban him. Yeah, guys like that would fucking love this law. I'm like, all right, I'm not really hurting my team. So fuck off. Yeah, I'm just going to punch a guy for a minute straight until the referee. Yeah, you're trying to aim for somebody, a player that's killing you, you know? Right. Right.
00:38:50
Speaker
You know, it doesn't do much. No, it would be bad news all over. So thank God it's not in there. Thank God World Drug Week did not want to trial it. Thank the fucking Lord. But yeah, so it's, and it's a little bit, so to go to the All Blacks in their play, we see, you know, the system that's worked for them forever. Now we know,
00:39:14
Speaker
If we want to get into the All Blacks a little bit, we know there's stuff going on behind the scenes that maybe wasn't at the forefront that it should have been. Shannon Frisell, Seba Reese. And that disappoints me greatly. They haven't picked Frisell.
00:39:32
Speaker
So they can't get one. No, they can't. But like they couldn't be out. You can't leave the country. No, but I don't think you could either. Like I honestly like even for the match in New Zealand against the Australians, I didn't pick them. Right. So, you know, hopefully that remains the same and. But here's
All Blacks Coaching & US Team Struggles
00:39:53
Speaker
the other thing I was I was talking to Jess about this just yesterday, too. How's how's you want you doing at six?
00:40:03
Speaker
Oh, Rico. Oh, he's great. He's been, he's been a beast. So to me, he's been better than Frizzell. So like, yeah, no, I mean, you don't need to get him out of sleep. Right. You don't need like, you're gone. I, and, and I feel like several Reese.
00:40:19
Speaker
I am to understand that there may be mitigating circumstances. I don't know. I don't know the full story. I hear he's been trying to make reparations and change other people. I don't know enough to know. And yes, he is probably or he would be one of the top five certainly wings alive today.
00:40:44
Speaker
Well, maybe just playing today. But the guys you would use to replace him would still be top five anyway. So, like, you don't need these people. Like, you're going against what your core values are.
00:40:59
Speaker
no dickheads. And so and somebody did write an article about how them they've kind of lost away from that. And they, yeah, it is disappointing. So to say that do I think and you can rewind the clock to 2011 2015, where they, they really had said they stayed pretty spat on those values, and didn't budget them. And they ended up with two world cups. Right. And believe me, there were some guys they left out.
00:41:24
Speaker
that didn't need to be left out. Yep. And it still worked. So, you know, and that's, you know, probably more to Wayne Smith and Graham, Graham Henry. But I think Fauzi needs to someone needs to hit Fauzi in the face and just be like, listen, this is what got it done. Right. Don't be afraid to stick to it. Right. Because he's under pressure. So I get it. I get it. Like, you know, a lot of people are expecting more out of the all blacks. And last year, what little international there was was not great.
00:41:53
Speaker
and he wasn't everybody's pick, everybody won, Scott Robertson.
00:41:58
Speaker
but they have their system that they've gone through for a long time. It's always gone from one assistant to the next, to the next that it gets passed down to. And there's still one of the best teams in the world without a doubt. So you can't even deny that like, oh, it doesn't work. Okay, cool. There are 2% percentage winning points off from what they usually are. Big fucking deal. I'll trade you, please. You know? So, yeah, I think, and, you know, it's all, it's the same thing for everybody here.
00:42:28
Speaker
You're trying to win a fucking World Cup. You don't like, yes, international matches matter. You get money for wins, duh, duh, duh.
00:42:35
Speaker
In the end, your aim is 2023 and making sure that you grab ahold of that trophy. So don't get all sidetracked over a couple of matches. Like big picture, man. Like last time I checked, that was the idea. But so many coaches, not just Fauzi, all of them seem to be, and I think Dave Rennie's kind of on the right track at least. He's got a lot of work to do. That's not his fault. You know, all the coaches are just like,
00:43:03
Speaker
It's so, so short term. I'm like, just open that, open that screen up just a little bit, buddy. You got a way bigger picture to look at than that. Like, would you rather give a shit about these two matches that yes, they mean something to the country. They mean something to the fans. Or would you rather be holding that trophy overhead come the final day in France? I think I choose the latter. Yeah. If it means, you know, you bite the bullet on a match or two, fuck it.
00:43:31
Speaker
shit like people are just like and you talk about people that are fucking spoiled good lord you know god god god almighty yes i agree there's no the pressure makes you do stupid shit and that's that's problematic you that's why you want to have a guy coach who can can
00:43:53
Speaker
be cool under that pressure. Let people lose their head. The coach is the one that has to keep it calm. That's your job, is to take that pressure, ultimately. And so, yeah, like, don't pick a Shannon Frisell. Don't pick a seven reason. Are you going to get lambasted for it? Not so much. Because it's like the same thing as like a Lions tour, you know? There's guys who, you know, deserve it. And then there's guys who are on the bubble. And then there's like,
00:44:24
Speaker
30 or 40 guys in between that are like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh, if you didn't drink, okay. Well, these other guys, yeah. Okay. You got them. So whatever like that, you're not going to get that crushed. And I'm sorry, but, but, um, you know, put taking several Reese out there rather than say like a will Jordan.
00:44:44
Speaker
Or you put a Will Jordan out there and said, I said, Maurice, do you think you're going to get crushed? Come whatever result. I love Will Jordan. That kid is amazing and deserves so much more. And I know there's a lot more on deck for the kid. And I hope it all comes to fruition for him without a doubt. And if you were to drop several reasons that you're picking Will Jordan, I would never bat an eye. Yeah. If you had Will Jordan and Caleb Clark as your wings with Jordy Barrett back there,
00:45:09
Speaker
going into a World Cup, those are your top three when you're playing a match you have to win, and you're playing an opponent who might actually beat you. Like, nobody's going to say boo. That's not the weak point. That's not the weak point. Let's put it that way. That's not where you lose. So, you know, whether it's fair or not to savo, I mean, it doesn't matter. But, like, he might be doing all sorts of good shit. Doesn't matter. You failed the standards. Right.
00:45:39
Speaker
And at that point in, you know, in for somebody like that, that's, you know, as we've seen, as it's, as it's been reported, and, and been written, fucked up really badly, you have to almost just like really overcompensate for how much you're doing, you really have to swing that pendulum the other way, to make people believe that that was a one time thing, and that's an isolated incident, and you're extremely regretful of it. And yeah, just like, I could say a lot of other words for it there. But
00:46:08
Speaker
point being you really need to swing that pendulum the other way before you even start being considered to be selected. That would be the way to go for me. That's where I'm at. Even then, I think you're perfectly within your rights as that. It depends on the situation.
00:46:24
Speaker
right? Like it depends on if you're the the the eagles and and it's whether do you like the okay yeah if we had Severus it was like it's like you know what he's trying okay i'll give him a pat like yeah he made a mistake i'll give him a pass but like we kind of need him right when you're all blacks
00:46:45
Speaker
And you have, you are spoiled enough to be able to have standards. Have your standards. I would love for the Eagles to have those standards. And I think they're getting their, you know, Gary's working us towards that.
00:46:59
Speaker
Yeah, I believe in Gary. I believe in Gary. Let's get it. Let's stuck into him real quick and crew. Extremely disappointing. Rugby walk-up qualifier, American North. Extremely disappointing result for anybody that was wearing red, white and blue or anybody that's from the US watching rugby. It can't be understood.
00:47:22
Speaker
It really can't be. You know, the fact that we put 21 points on the board really is down to the first 10, 15 minutes where we played rugby. Right. It had the wind. We used the wind. Right. Didn't really use it so much after that. Too much mauling.
00:47:37
Speaker
way too much mauling. It was successful at points, but it's like one of those, okay, when it works, it works. But that doesn't mean that's the only thing you do. When the lineup doesn't go to hell sometimes. And then here's what kills me. And it reminded me of my first couple of years playing Division III rugby, shit-ass rugby, outside of Philly. Just because it was Division III. It was a bunch of guys drinking and fucking around in the field.
00:48:05
Speaker
That was the last time I remember that many high balls just landing. It would be bothering to catch it. And even then our coach was fucking, it's true, would give us all sorts of shit for it. It'd be like, somebody catch that fucking ball. Like something, just go and catch it. These guys are just kind of standing there like, well, it's not my job. I'm here to kind of stay in my lane. It's like, no, no, no, no.
00:48:31
Speaker
someone's job is to catch it though the wing or center whoever the fuck he's not there so now it's your job somebody get on it somebody say you know what this is our ball i'm gonna make sure we have it instead of no it bounced like five or six times they they kicked it high sometimes it was even deep and the wing would just be like no i'm not gonna catch it it's like what the fuck are you doing
00:48:54
Speaker
I it's just those little fat that right there was like, they're going to lose this match. I was like, I was like, that's it. They're not showing the desire to either play rugby or to go get the ball. No. Yeah. I mean, it was it was thing one, thing two, thing three for me, like thing one, the US played absolutely terribly in the in the committee and definitely showed more gusto than the US.
00:49:16
Speaker
For sure. I wanted it. Absolutely wanted it. Thing two was the Canadian commentary was fucking awful. Those guys had no idea what they were talking about. ZERO. They were just super homers. Super. I've not heard that kind of homer since Tommy Haidson. Like, oh my God.
00:49:34
Speaker
Like it's super Homer. Good Lord. Scott Zolak's not that bad. No, he's not. That's saying a lot. Like, holy shit, man. Like, that's bad. So, and, you know, and not only that, they did not know what they were talking about. No. Like, do you?
00:49:52
Speaker
Do you know how rugby works? The yellow card at the beginning, they were bitching about it. I'm like, dude, it's a penalty try. Lost Eights, if you give away a penalty try, the person that committed the infraction will be given a yellow card. And there is no, it does not matter if it's minute zero or minute 80. It's how it is. It pulled down a mall on their own try, at their own goal line.
00:50:21
Speaker
not even like did the whole coming in from the side like the mall kind of split off a little bit and somebody came in from the side and basically grabbed one of the the mauling players not the ball carrier but one of the guys in front of him and just fucking took him down like the refs obviously watching right there because the ball had just splintered so there's not many people in that area it's like oh no you
00:50:40
Speaker
You right there. I saw you do that. So, like, yeah, all of it. Like, no hesitation whatsoever. He didn't even watch what happened. The outcome of that. As soon as it went down, he's like, nope, ran right to the center. Yeah, I ran right to the center. Yeah, that's a yellow, yellow card. Get the fuck out. And then I just wish.
00:50:58
Speaker
the European rugby had said to somebody better than Mike Adamson. There are a lot of referees I were taken from Europe over him. So next time, can you send something better, please? God, I would have taken Andrew Brace. And he's fucked up quite a bit, but Mike Adamson's not a good referee. He's not even the best referee in Scotland. Let's be real.
00:51:23
Speaker
It takes some work that the fact that the U.S. was the worst group on the field between the Canadians, the officials, the announcers, and the U.S. The U.S. were the worst. Yeah, so that speaks to that. And that's saying a lot because the only group there that I have anything positive to say about is the Canadians. The Canadians, yeah, the Canadian players. Absolutely. Full credit to them.
00:51:50
Speaker
They showed up, they wanted to play. They did what they had to do to win. They did winning things and the U.S. did losing things, like not catching a high ball. Yeah, pretty basic maneuver right there. Thirteen points going back to Glendale this weekend. We'll see how it goes. Fingers crossed, man. Just need two tries and two conversion advantage.
00:52:11
Speaker
Hopefully we can do it. And Gary Gold fired some rockets up some bums. We also didn't
Closing Remarks & Future Plans
00:52:16
Speaker
start all our European talent. Most of it was on the bench. So hopefully that means AJ starts. Anu seems to be just an injury waiting to happen. So I'm done with him. It's too bad Montpelier didn't release TT. We could have used him. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. We get, you know, line out went all dysfunctional and shit. So that's not it. That was a killer right there.
00:52:39
Speaker
But Gary was not happy. And like we talked about how he was very, he was a little disappointed with the way we played against England, which we played very well.
00:52:49
Speaker
Imagine that. And then imagine how mad he was about how the way we played this match. He was very unhappy. He was. Yeah. I take it that nobody had eardrums after that with that in that locker room because he was probably pretty fucking pissed if I were him at least. I was not. And I'm not a yell. I'm not a yeller to my kids. So if he is, look out. Yeah. And I don't think I I don't feel like the good rugby coaches are. No, they usually aren't. So they usually let the captains do it.
00:53:19
Speaker
Yeah. And then you get quiet. You'd just be like, look, this is, this is unacceptable. And, and, and yeah, you gotta, you gotta, you know, challenge the players and whatnot, but it's, it's gotta come from a place of calm. Cause fuck, you know,
00:53:36
Speaker
It was poor. It was very poor. It was so poor. It was so fucking poor. Just like, yeah, that's, that's, but that's, that's what comes with, you know, having a national team that you actually kind of start to like, like they were very disappointed in some way. Like I didn't, but I also didn't root against them the way that I have previous Eagles teams with like Tolkien at the helm when they're just, Oh God, Quill on the side. Yeah. These guys are like.
00:54:05
Speaker
they just pooped terribly. Like it's not like they're, but they weren't dickheads about it. Like it wasn't like Quill getting a red card at the World Cup and home cause you're an asshole cause they're losing. Like it was just, you guys are fucking knuckleheads out there being all Ralph Wiggum and shit. And so it's like, sort yourselves out. And, but I want to see you do well. Yeah. I, you know, we don't want to,
00:54:35
Speaker
I mean, as much as I had confidence in us being Canada this time.
00:54:40
Speaker
Should the worst happen, I think we'll be okay against Chile, I hope. Jesus. Yeah. And then that'll bring us back to getting the second place for the Americas, which will be the loser of Uruguay and Canada. So, but fingers crossed that we don't need to even get there and we can just, you know, get a 14-point win and be done. Yeah. You know, I think if it's a tie, it's whoever got the most tries, so.
00:55:07
Speaker
Oh, either way. Yeah. Keep it going, boys. Like, let's go get going. Fourteen nothing. Fourteen nothing win. Done. Get on with it. Although, you know, if you want to like blow them out, that would be fine too. I wouldn't be sad about that at all. Like they should have or like they should. Maybe that that wind might be harder to blow anybody out. But yeah, but they'll be in they'll be in Colorado this time. So yeah, the altitude will be fun.
00:55:35
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Godspeed to everybody out there. Wayne Barnes. Eat your heart out, man. Poor guy. He's huffing and puffing in that alliance warmup match. Yeah. Oh, man. Poor fella. He didn't know what he got himself into. No, I left his wife.
00:55:54
Speaker
gave him the business on the Twitter. Oh, I loved it. I loved it. She's a great follow. She is a great follow. If you're not following Polly Barnes, you're doing it wrong. Yeah, you're doing it wrong. Oh, okay. So we've two year off for about 55 minutes or so. So we're back if you haven't noticed.
00:56:14
Speaker
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00:56:43
Speaker
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00:57:11
Speaker
So we'll see. Next week, we're talking Prem. We're talking Bansi Prem. We're talking Saracens. Yes. They're back. Those fucking guys. I seem to remember some. Yeah. Oh, trust me. I'm sure they're going to be reminding everybody who they were. Although the challenge right off the bat is pretty cool. They get to go go to Bristol. Yeah. That should be a fun match.
00:57:34
Speaker
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