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Season 4- Episode 24- A Troll Feast (Premiership Round 16 & 6 Nations Round 2)
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It's a doozy of an episode we have for you. On this episode, we cover, what feels like, everything. We start with a nod to a fallen fellow rugger, thoughts are with their family and loved ones. Then we start cooking by having a look at Super Rugby and be happy, neither of us is picking the Crusaders to win it. When then recap the round that was in 6 Nations including the match of the weekend in Paris. Of course, we take a little jaunt around the Premiership as well. We cover this and oh so much more, grab something tasty to drink and enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction and Rugby Season Overview
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the fancy rugby. Thanks. My name is Jared. I'm Ben Glauser. Let's get to it. It's awesome to cover here because it's that time of year. It's a magical time of year, but we got a lot to do here. There's so much happening. Everything is happening. It's all happening right now. There's internationals. There's, you know, good club rugby in the north. There's good club rugby in the south. And now there's good club rugby here in the US. And I'm thirsty too. Find us.
00:00:39
Speaker
One of your favorite projects to have done a great review, share with your friends, all that shit. So on and so forth. Trying to do this one like an amateur.
00:00:55
Speaker
That's a good try. I gotta wait. Yeah. Yeah. So bye. Bye. Our friend George, the face here, coffee because he's doing a lot of work. He's a busy boy. He's a busy boy these days. So give him that. He's busy. He's busier than we are in some ways because he covers all the formats and we only do a select few for our
00:01:18
Speaker
recommendations and such so yeah by that by that man something something nice grab a tier of upgrades because obviously six nations that on break but it's nice to know which players were released back and which ones are in lineups and all that good stuff pretty much green dots are very helpful yes and the yellow dots of you know
00:01:37
Speaker
No, Frank or no, Clark this weekend. So, um, wrong football. Not that one. Not that one. Freddy Clark, Frederick Clark. Close enough. Whatever. Yeah.
Social Justice and News Break Discussion
00:01:52
Speaker
Right. Um, as always black lives matter on this podcast and there is no room for racism in life or in sports. Um,
00:02:02
Speaker
Yeah, just so we got lots of things going on over here. What else is new trials, trials, trials, trials, all the different trials going on over here as well. A second was the second officer in the Floyd shooting, the Floyd death, excuse me.
00:02:17
Speaker
So I can't recall. There's too many going on right now. Right. Exactly. Which is a problem. Which is such a problem. And I'm like trying to take a week off from news or so. Yeah, I need a mental break from all that. So personally, I feel privileged to be able to do that. I understand that.
00:02:37
Speaker
Yeah, but at the same time, like I kind of sometimes you need to just take a break from every cycle, mostly because I'm digging into a new project at work. So it's like I can't distract. Yes, I need to. I'm already angry enough with the way that's going. Yeah, I'm like.
00:02:55
Speaker
It's like a third of the way through and I'm like just picking up cold. That's rough. Yeah, I do know the the the determination of whether or not I'm out of Arbery's death was a hate crime that's going to be going up soon. Good. All the idiots are getting tried as such. So good. Fuck them.
00:03:20
Speaker
A little more sad news, unfortunately, or actually, you know, we'll throw some good news in first.
Community Support and Rugby Tragedy
00:03:25
Speaker
Patreon, get your Patreon for us, because we're about to just hit you with a whole lot of shit. Six Nations will be added to it next week, along with FRD for super rugby. So just hang on to your hats, kids. It's going to be a lot on there. So yeah, even if you just want to jump in for a month, you can do that. And we'd appreciate it. And we hope that you will appreciate the information you're given.
00:03:48
Speaker
Yep. Um, yeah, give it a check. Yeah, definitely. Um, yeah, a little, a little sad news. Um, the, uh, the player from, was it ever Sherman? You've shown, uh, RFC Jack Jeffrey, just like, that is not something that we see very often and boof. No, man, it hurts. Here's the whole community when you see something like that, you know? Yeah, it's not, and it doesn't go away. Mm-hmm.
00:04:15
Speaker
So like my club lost a player who was like 19 back when I was first started playing when I was like, literally I have the t-shirt of him for that we made for him for, you know, the fundraiser for his family and all that. Like I have two of them and that they, I have lived with them longer than he lived. And I like still cherish them because like he was a dear friend and it was,
00:04:41
Speaker
Yeah. Like, so yeah, our hearts go out to, um, to every, every club and every, um, family member who has to go through this. It's not, you know, we try to take it out of the, we try to take head shots and all this stuff out of the game, uh, to make it safer. Um, you can't fix it all. And so.
00:05:04
Speaker
Yeah, we just hope this happened. It is happening fewer and fewer now, I think, but thankfully. Yeah. Yeah, that's really awful. It never happens again. Yeah. Supposedly a lot of clubs are going to not wear 11s this weekend. They'll put like 25 on or something like that, which is really nice nod to Jack Jeffrey. So yeah, hopefully his family and the club and all are
00:05:32
Speaker
I think that it sounds like they feel like they have the support they need to get through this, which is great. And that's what the regular world can do. They respond quite well to instances like this. So yeah, really, really, really sad that for whatever reason, and this one in particular just really hit me. I was just like, ooh, this looks awful. Because he wasn't very old either. So just really rough, really, really rough.
00:06:03
Speaker
All right.
Super Rugby Season Preview
00:06:05
Speaker
Let's, before we burn too much of a hole in our time pieces here, let's get into some super rugby preview. It's going to be a wild one with the addition of the Moana Pacifica and Fijian Drua. And I cannot wait. Yeah. They're going to be, you know,
00:06:25
Speaker
they're gonna try to play open style rugby. And to me that, yeah, it might take them a little bit to click, might not. Like this could be an instant thing where the points happen, you know, when they happen. But it's like, you know, I'm just looking forward to seeing what they bring to the table and plus it's great for the islands.
00:06:50
Speaker
And it's good for, you know, we've seen how many people are, our players are going back to their true home nations now. If they got a taste of the all blacks or something and, and, or the wallabies or whatever. Yeah. Right. And, you know, it didn't work out long-term or something. So it's okay. Well, shit. Now, you know, before they weren't really, it was, it was so difficult to go back and now it's,
00:07:17
Speaker
Yeah, this makes it a little easier to go back and play just to be able to, and they, they always have the option, but you know, the call of their home, whatever that, whatever league they're playing in is sometimes just a little bit more of a little bit louder. Um, and that's not what you want, but right. But if these teams catch on, if this works, then they don't have to go overseas in the first place. And that's the, that's the.
00:07:42
Speaker
That's the big thing too. So I'm really hoping for the best for them. I'm really hoping they click early.
00:07:49
Speaker
Yeah, same. I watched the trial match. One little highlight from the draw. They look like they're having fun already. I was like, okay, good. Just checking the ball around and getting scores. Hopefully we see, I think he's hurt right now, but I hope we see Tua Draki some of some of Audra from free decks. That would be nice to see, too. It is going to be available on Flow.
00:08:19
Speaker
Yeah, lame. Yeah, in the US. Everybody else. It sounds like they've announced other ways to do it.
00:08:25
Speaker
Regions abroad as well, but yeah, it doesn't make it not annoying for us. Yeah. You bastards. I thought I was done with you. Yeah. I was out. Seriously. Fucking hell. Um, so we, uh, so it's a, it's top five do go into the qualifier. The first team, um, will get a buy and then it's not, and then it's knock out from there.
00:08:55
Speaker
Um, is this still, you know, the Crusaders just walking, walking away with another one or is there somebody that's going to actually punch him, punch him in the face and knock him out? Well, I mean, we saw they didn't win the. That's true, right? They won within, you know, the intro. Right. But the Blues won overall. So, yeah, it's absolutely possible. There are some really good teams.
00:09:25
Speaker
Um, you know, and then the crusaders lost some, some matches to, you know, in country, you know, so it was like that, you know, second time playing through, um, I saw it a little bit. Um, there, that means there's weaknesses there. So like, even, I think the chiefs beat them, like the chiefs weren't, weren't all that great. Um, in the, uh, um, Alte Roa comp, but they were also pretty damn good in the, um,
00:09:50
Speaker
in the trans test. So like, yeah, there's teams, you know, and reds are freaking quality rebels are quality.
00:09:58
Speaker
You know, teams have been, and some of the players have been kind of dispersed, um, a little bit more. Obviously we shot Josh, you want to jump ship. He's now chief. Um, that could be incredibly helpful for the chiefs. Yeah. Those guys all kind of jumped around. There's obviously some players that have left their, you know, their current super Ruby squads to go play for one of the two new teams, which is great. I, I feel, I, I.
00:10:25
Speaker
okay, I know this might not be a popular opinion, but I have it. And that is, as a chief supporter, I think they're better without Damien McKenzie. And I certainly think if you had to trade the two, I would take Brody Retallic 10 times out of 10. If you don't want to play with one. And so you take that team and you kind of, you know, you add Joshua and Brody Retallic and you take away Damien McKenzie, you take away a lot of mistakes that were made last year.
00:10:52
Speaker
a lot of mistakes in a test, certainly an attack, like certainly when it really counted, like on the goal line, there were a lot of, you know, Mackenzie wasn't finishing the way he used to. Right. And it's so it's like,
00:11:06
Speaker
He didn't do a lot of, he'd make a lot of the first team, a lot of the starts for the All Blacks in this past cycle too. He didn't make a couple. I'm not going to say he didn't make any. Right. But when it mattered, it was, you know, it was Will Jordan back there, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And he was on the bench. Or Bodhi, if any of them or whatever. Right, right.
00:11:25
Speaker
I do want to turn our attention to what I believe will be a very special day. It's the weekend of the of May 14. And that is the day that Virginia drew and wanna Pacifica will play each other. So that'll be a pretty
00:11:40
Speaker
cool match. I hope they, I hope somebody makes a real big deal of that and they get some sort of special things going on with that because that's going to be pretty freaking awesome for those two clubs to be able to cracker of a match. They're going to go so hard at each other. It's going to be like tries and cards. Yeah, probably a little bit, probably a little bit.
00:12:02
Speaker
It'll be it'll be great. The referee will be raising a hand one way or another. Very often. Very, very often. Yeah, so just kind of quickly blues.
00:12:17
Speaker
Probably one of the qualifier contenders without a doubt, maybe a favorite, depending on who you ask. Bowden Barrett returning should obviously make them very good. Right. And then just, yeah, they have a lot going on for them. Happily, he's their new captain this year. That should be, I don't see any way that's a downside. Right. And Caleb Clark, hopefully with a little bit of, you know, he had a sophomore slump.
00:12:44
Speaker
And he played sevens too, which kind of took away from it as well. So that was unhelpful for, for his own sake. Um, Brumby's, I mean, they've, they've always, for the longest time, they were the best in Australia and then the Reds fixed that last year. Um, no reason to say that they can't do it all over again, but.
00:13:05
Speaker
Uh, yeah, the, I mean, and a lot, it's a lot of the same pieces coming back, which is good and bad. Obviously you want to try and add some flair and some freshness to it, but at the same time, like, you know, Lola CO is a year more into it, which only helps them. Um, yeah, you know, and you know, you and I both don't love Nick white, but at the same time, he's still, he's still quality. You got a quality player, uh, Rob Valentini has got a little bit more.
00:13:31
Speaker
you know, wallaby experience under his belt. So it's, yeah, I don't have a ton of time to be mad about it from the Brumbies. It's just a matter of do they show up every weekend or do they take the weekend off? Yeah, that could be the answer right there. You can have your answer with that. Dear Chiefs, how you feeling?
00:13:51
Speaker
Like I said, I'm feeling pretty positive. Like, you know, I, I like Vitalik coming back. I think that's going to open up a lot. I liked how they look towards the end of last season to begin with. Um, you know, we were talking before the pot about, uh, Jacobson and, um, Peter Gus. And it's like, they, they just had to get that combination working.
00:14:13
Speaker
They were kind of, I think they were going one or the other and Peter Gus was doing, he was running into way too much traffic. And when they could move him wider, like him and Jacobson as the wing forwards in that attack are just pounding either side in the open field. And I like what they have in the back line. I mean, Quinn Tupiah, as much as I,
00:14:40
Speaker
he annoys the fuck out of me. He showed when he played with the All Blacks that he can play contained. Like he doesn't have to be kind of out of control trying to do too much that he was doing with the, or kind of doing his own thing anyway with the Chiefs. We're all Maverick and Rogue. Right. I think if he can play disciplined, they'll be just fine. I mean, I like their lineup this weekend. It doesn't have,
00:15:09
Speaker
you know, some of the players you might expect. So you still have some good things coming down the pipe as well. Exactly. And I like the, I like all the outside backs. They're full of running. So that's the thing that they, if they can, the style that they play.
00:15:28
Speaker
is, is open and they got the guys who can execute it. So, yep. No doubt. No doubt. And everybody seems to be tipping journal load to do quite well. And the new guy, um, what's it, Moses, um, playing fullback this weekend for them. Why am I spacing on this now? Why am I spacing on this now? Well, I know. Um, now it's on him.
00:15:56
Speaker
Oh, there it is. Oh, Narawa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's tipping him to have a good season as well. So it should be fun. Just the same. Crusaders. I mean, it's the mighty Crusaders. Yeah, I don't matter. Like, yeah, it doesn't really matter what lineup they're putting together. I know for playing for them this weekend, but they've got more than enough quality in that field. David.
00:16:24
Speaker
David Haveli being in that in that midfield for a Fergus Burke is more than people will realize like for his development and his being able to play like whether or not it's a super successful successful day for Burke is not you know going to be totally you know evident on so it's like yeah it's so good for him to have that just the same
00:16:52
Speaker
Right. He just needs to trust the players around him and just let, let them like kind of let them do the work and just guide it. Like just paint with a light brush stroke. Don't, don't try to put too much of yourself on, you know, into the game, like let the game happen and learn, you know, he doesn't have to be Richie Moonga. No, like they're fine. Well, that's a hell of a tend to try and pretend to be so. Right. So don't, don't try just.
00:17:21
Speaker
you know, be Fergus Burke, be, you know, play within the system, play within the game plan. And yeah, listen to the players around you and work with them, you know, give them what they need. You're good. That's the thing about the Crusaders that like, you just slot, you know, just do this role. Yes, there's others that do it better because they can do more. But if you just do like, you play your cog in the greater machine and let someone else have a bigger part of it.
00:17:48
Speaker
OK, that's your job. And they do it. Fucking bastards. Yeah, that's what they do. Going on over there. Even then, they're still talented. It's not like they're not talented. There's a reason they're on the Crusaders. So it's like, fuck. Not even minimizing Fergus Burke here. It's just that, yeah, you have to try too hard. He'll be OK. No, you won't have to. You won't have to.
00:18:12
Speaker
agreed. Drew, obviously, new team, you know, lots of new faces that we're going to get familiar with. The mining, the goose is their captain, the former Newcastle Falcon, you know, and they'll be fun if nothing else. And that is something that we that we're that we want out of this, you know, it's
00:18:30
Speaker
Yeah, winning spot great. But man, if you're doing stuff that nobody wants to watch, what the fuck's the points? Yeah. So and they did the way that the way they'll play is, is going to be entertaining no matter what. So and
00:18:46
Speaker
The way it's kind of the way the game is going, like they're kind of ahead of the game, the way they go, the way that it's going with keep all alive, moving even into England. Fuck. Right. Like it can't be ignored at this point that their style of play. And so it used to be weird because that's just not how it used to be. Oh, that's not discipline. But now it's kind of the way teams just play. So they're already ahead of the game. That could help. So.
00:19:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be a great team to watch either way. I'm looking forward to it. Highlanders, obviously, Ioannoni's departure is, in my opinion, very big. And I don't think enough people are making a big enough deal of it. Mitch Hunt's not Josh Ioannoni. That's all I know. No, he's not. So, and obviously, there must have been some sort of rift in there. In which case, obviously, that's why Ioannoni decided he was going to jump ship.
00:19:41
Speaker
but still like, I mean, you're, you're not, you're not mad about it. Obviously, you know, bring Gatlin, not trying any tears about that. Yeah. Bring Gatlin wasn't gonna, wasn't gonna quite do it for you. Sorry. Unfortunately. Yeah. So yeah, it'll, but still, you know, they have, they have Aaron Smith. Um, they have some very good, they have some very good talent out wide. I don't, don't see them not being competitive at the same. So you can't sleep on them, but at the same time, like,
00:20:09
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not sure that they're going to be on this, this qualifier list. So no, that's really not a Scott Gregory is their first option at 12. Cause you know, Tom Kinson's out and that really, yep. That fucks with them a lot. Just a bit, just a bit, just a bit.
00:20:28
Speaker
the mighty hurricanes. I mean, they're they are going right from the start with the kids. It's not just Jamie Booth, not a kid, obviously, but Ruben Love. I mean, thank God that they tried to baptize this kid last year into this whole thing and this big ego kid, have fun and
00:20:45
Speaker
there were some games where he stood out and there were some games where he didn't need to but he held his own and there are obviously a couple of games where you did exactly what you'd expect a young player to do and that's completely fucked up sometimes but that's okay and I'm okay with what they did last year. The season was gone when Garden Bash Up broke. I was just like that's the end. Don't even try and do anything else. We didn't have TJ.
00:21:10
Speaker
Yeah, it was a problem. Yeah, it was a problem. So yeah, I'm excited about what's going forward. Do I think we're going to get in the qualifier spot? I think we'll compete for it, but I don't know if we'll get there. I don't know if we quite can get over the line. It's going to be a real question of what's going on in the Type 5. Yeah, that's our biggest problem right now. Can you hit the line out? Yeah. Can you hit the line out?
00:21:34
Speaker
Yeah. Apart from the hooks. Yeah. In the tight five. I don't know what we have, honestly, like, I'm not super happy. I'm not super excited about it. That's for sure. You know, so we'll see. I'm, I'm, you know, we are, we have Jordi, Jordi Superman some days. Can't be every day. We got to have guys that can pick them up. No, but that, I mean, that loose forward grouping is.
00:21:58
Speaker
It's not fair. I mean, come on now. I know Karifi can be a helmet sometimes, but the four that are playing this weekend are just, they're ridiculous. Flanders, Karifi, Sevilla, and Jose when he comes in. Like, Jose is, as we were saying before the pot, he is like an Alfie Barbary type. He's going to come in and rip.
00:22:22
Speaker
Yeah, when he comes into a match, you know it fairly quickly like Oh yeah, somebody just did something awesome. Oh yeah. Yeah, he did quite have quite an impact last year. So, like, there's, again, in a comp where your ability to do stuff with the ball and fuck with the defense is
00:22:45
Speaker
key to basically any kind of success. Got a puncher's chance with this lineup, even if, you know, even with the tight five being what it is, you can succeed without really dominating up front in this comp. Hope so. Hope so for our guys. Trying to be positive here. Trying to be positive over there.
Team Analyses and Match Insights
00:23:06
Speaker
For the Rebels,
00:23:09
Speaker
I don't know if they're going to compete this year. Unfortunately, we talked about, um, during our draft, love Tamua. There's a lot of pieces I really liked that they have. I don't know if they're going to be able to really put together a competitive season this year. I don't think they'll be, you know, bottom feeders by any means, but they're going to, they're definitely destined for mid table, you know, abyss. So I hate to say that, but that's probably where it's at.
00:23:36
Speaker
And yeah, lots, lots I like about that team. Just ain't quite doing it for me this year. Sorry, guys. Moana Pacifica, again, another team. It's very exciting. So Kope Kepu is their captain. That should be pretty awesome. I think it's major, their coach. How did I make that up in my brain?
00:23:55
Speaker
Nope. Aaron Majors their coach. Okay. That's pretty awesome. So, um, lots. Yeah. Lots to be excited about, about this one as well. Lili Afana was part of the team, which is awesome. Um, nice. Yeah. A couple of nice steady hands for them. No doubt. Yeah. And that team. So it will be dangerous. Right. They're in pretty solid hands. They've got guys who, um, like who've played in the, in the, they've got a lot of guys who've played in this comp.
00:24:22
Speaker
and been around the comp. Yeah. So, Kata. Kata. Yep. Tawalo was with the hurricanes. Yes, it was. And, you know, some familiar names, like Tima Feinganuku. Like, we know that name. I'm sure they're related. Not that that is like a huge
00:24:46
Speaker
You know, the indication of anything, but, but I mean, the one guy is pretty good. So, right. So you can only imagine that that a relative would also be good. Yeah, I would imagine so. They probably played with and against each other. Yeah, that's true. I'm sure they beat each other up a few times or two. And Lea Lefano is a, is a huge get. Yeah, I agree. That's a guy who, you know, international experience, um,
00:25:15
Speaker
You know, the experience in the comp, like this is a, there's, there's a lot to like about like this. I think this team is in, in, in position to, I think there are better positions to compete than say like the Western force that we'll get to. We'll get there in a second, which is, which is pretty good for our first year team. Right.
00:25:32
Speaker
Agreed. Let's go to the TAS. They will get at some point Michael Hooper back, which will be nice. They've designated Jake Corden as their captain this year, not to say that Hoops won't add to that, obviously. He's got a lot going on with the wall piece. So let him take that back seat at least. Right.
00:25:56
Speaker
Yeah, again, I think this is a team that they did some good things last year in who they played early with like Donaldson and Harrison. Donaldson's obviously starting this weekend. So they did themselves some favors by putting those out there. That center combination, I really, really like with Parise and Faketi. So that's something to be excited about. I mean, the old man coming out and doing it all over again. I love it.
00:26:25
Speaker
I love it. That's great. Yeah, Jimmy Roberts. I mean, he's he adds so much more than his play on the field. Is athleticism is it's not what he brings to the table. It's everything else. It's a lot of everything else, too. Physicality, though, too, which is, you know, a component of athleticism, but still, yeah, no hard, hard man. And dude, petty as fuck.
00:26:52
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, there's not somebody I'm getting in the way of if I can help. But that's that you become a speed bump at points with him. But the thing is, he'll also make you look stupid. And that's not like, that's just not truth. Right. If he can run you over, that's one thing. Okay, I can I can deal with that every so often. It'll hurt, but I can deal with it. But it's like, okay, if I like really, you know, come in for the kill, and he's like, No, I'm just gonna
00:27:13
Speaker
Dippity do and move the ball. Find a way around you. Yeah, get around it. Absolutely. All right. You did get back here. So if I'm the war toss and I'm a war toss fan, I'm excited. You know, this should be a should be an interesting group to see how they go forward. Yeah. You got to get through this first period without, as you said, without Hooper. Get through that. And then he brings brings it along. It changes because, you know,
00:27:42
Speaker
Like Tizano and Swinton weren't really... Yeah, I care so much, so little about Swinton. No thanks. But I think if you add a Michael Hooper to that, it's like all of a sudden they have a little bit less to do because he does fucking everything on the field. Right. That's going to free them up so much. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree.
00:28:07
Speaker
Going down the list here, Queensland Reds defending Super OVAU champs, and again, likely in contention for a knockout spot here as well. Don't see any reason why not, especially with all that they have. That back row is absolutely delicious. Oh my god, with all that they have to add to that.
00:28:27
Speaker
the pieces they can move around in that. That's great. McDermott and O'Connor are one of the better halfbacks pairings in the comp, no doubt. So, yeah, they will be contenders. I would be surprised if they don't make the qualifier, honestly. Very shocked if they don't. I think a lot of people feel that way. And that front, that those flat forward group is just unfair. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. I mean,
00:28:58
Speaker
Yeah, it's kind of like, okay, he's a big man. But no, it's not funny. It's awesome. People make it kind of a comedy thing or something almost when he's playing internationally. I mean, he's just a beast. At that level, it's less evident. At this level, he just
00:29:18
Speaker
He plays like an eight and he moves around quite well. But he'll crush a scrum. So it's just that much more fun. It's like, no, he's a rugby player out there. He will be amazing. And that's so much fun to watch at this level. Yeah. And their backs are, this weekend isn't necessarily a good example of it with
00:29:42
Speaker
what's their butt fluke and Stuart in the middle, but you know, Passami and Petai, Petai is on the wing this weekend. Yeah, that's a freaking mean midfield some days. I'll tell you that much right now. Wow. Wow. Oh my God. So yeah, lots, lots to like about the Reds going forward here. Um, like I said, I don't even looked at their lineup for this weekend. So, um, the tie is on the wing. It's jock Campbell and Degan new.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm trying to find there. And what's his, what's his, but the second row, he can play six as well. When, when called upon. He's quite a, he's quite a monster in the middle there. Right. Check yourselves folks. Um, and then the force, uh, kind of a storybook last year where they got to the, the AU semi-final and then got knocked out, but.
00:30:37
Speaker
I just don't know if they're going to be able to do that again. Um, you know, there, there, there's, they, they did lose a little bit. They've had, they've added a little bit too. I think, um, was it Kunzel that went, that went to the force who was the backup at the Brumby. So that's probably, that's a decent get for their sake, especially where they don't have was Isaac. They got Isaac fines. They got him too. Okay. That's, that's also, that's also good. Um,
00:31:06
Speaker
Yeah, that's pretty good as well. So this is pretty good.
00:31:11
Speaker
Yeah. Montserratally is a decent get to use. He ended up being the odd person out at crusaders. So I think at Isaac Rada too. That's a thing. That's, yeah, that's probably their biggest one there and, you know, getting him to come home, which he's making a ton of money in France. Yeah, you're right. You're going to come home and, and, and you're going to play for what was one of the worst teams in the, in your country. It's, it probably isn't anymore. Honestly, I think that gets tipped to the rebels still. Um,
00:31:41
Speaker
you know, as much as it pains me to say that. But yeah, there's a lot going on with them. In terms of what they've got, can they piece it together is always the question. And meh, right now is the answer. I don't know. I really don't. So the only way we're gonna find out obviously is what happens on the on the pitch, at least, you know, first week measuring stick with the Brumby's
00:32:06
Speaker
I mean, they've come a long way though. I think this year is like, was it two years ago where they just, they were used to playing 70 minute matches and also like the last 10 minutes of each half were just awful. Yeah. And so it was like, there was no way they could win because even if they got like a 14 point lead, they would give up 17 in the last five minutes and that was it. They'd find a way to blow it. Unfortunately. Um, they're not that anymore. Certainly. No.
00:32:34
Speaker
So, no, I, they're, they're a team that will, we'll close you out if they get it up, if they get up on you, they'll close you out. Yeah. They'll, they can probably hold it. Um, their captain has cut to their, their hooker last year, who got a, who did get a wallabies nod, which I was really happy about. Um, but yeah, not somewhat, not, uh, not quite gonna do it for me this year. I don't see them getting into that qualifier at the very least. Probably not. All right. Um, who's going to win?
00:33:07
Speaker
I'm going to go with Reds. Yeah, I was actually eyeing them myself. Yeah, as a not as a not crusaders answer. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the answer to the Reds. I agree. I mean, I there's there's teams that, you know, Blues, as I said, Chiefs, I actually have high hopes for the Chiefs this year. Good for you. I know. I don't know if that's right or not, but I, you know, I
00:33:38
Speaker
I've been struggling with DMACC, so I feel like there's a little bit, as I said, I feel like the addition through subtraction there. And of course, maybe I'll miss them a lot more than I realized. I'll figure that out in about two nights. Yeah, about 36 hours. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:56
Speaker
Just hang on kids. Okay, so yeah, we'll see how it goes. Lots of excitement about this comp going into this year. And I think you're underrating the Rebels. I think they have a shot too. Yeah, that is definitely a team. I need to see it first at this point. They've been, yeah, I know. They ended really poorly. They did end really poorly.
00:34:17
Speaker
I feel like there are mitigating circumstances and just the general bleh that took over that team. If they decide to come out and smash it, they will because they kind of didn't have much heart. And I don't know that's fully their fault, but
00:34:36
Speaker
Yeah. I know they were playing, they played away from home most of the last year. So it was, it was tough. They were, yeah, they were in some circumstances. So, um, with less, you know, in their way, fewer obstacles. I think, uh, I think they'll do better. And Timua has been, I mean, I'm a huge Timo fan, but just needs to be more, right? Three more.
00:35:02
Speaker
All right, Wales and Scotland, Six Nations round two. This was not the result that some of us were expecting, at least, certainly not after the two performances we saw the week before. Well, the thing is, both teams played not to lose.
00:35:18
Speaker
And neither were terribly successful at it. And one team played their circumstances a lot better than the other. Like that wasn't that, yeah. And I had an Australian ref, which was annoying this weekend. Yeah, I thought that it was a decent match, but should have been a lot better. Like it was just blah.
00:35:47
Speaker
Yeah, nothing that really got you out of your seat, apart from probably the Darcy Graham try. That was pretty sweet. He's really good in that little phone booth. He's squirmy. Squirmy little bastard. Yes, he is. They're the toughest to bring down. Right. Get back here. They really are.
00:36:08
Speaker
Here's the other thing. A while back when I was watching Aaron Judge smash home runs, I turned to Jared and I was like, you know what? Fuck you. Because it's people like you, you bastard trainer, that get big men super coordinated.
00:36:27
Speaker
It's also people like you that make the little guys, like the Shane Williams is suddenly, yeah, suddenly like fucking Darcy Graham instead, where it's like, you know what? Yeah, I could run past you, but I'm just going to throw a little shoulder in there while I do it anyway. Yeah, bury it in there. Really? Yeah. Because like you go for those edges, the further out you go, the more likely the defender can like throw you into touch or something, you know, can potentially control it. But if you can really throw that shoulder in and get that little edge to you as you as you go by,
00:36:57
Speaker
you can control that contact and get the try. So yeah, fuck you. I'll take that as a compliment. Yeah, it's been...
00:37:10
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, man, there's just, I'm at a loss for words for Scotland. Although I think there was, there was some idiot that's that used to coach Scotland that said something about how bad they were. And I was like, dude, didn't you like have one of the worst records of Scotland? Yeah. Shut up. Go away. And I know it doesn't, it doesn't, it didn't affect the outcome. I don't, I don't believe, but it could have.
00:37:34
Speaker
I think it impacted the game was, I don't think the Finn Russell yellow was a fucking yellow.
00:37:43
Speaker
I'm sorry, he ran into a prop as he was trying to pick off a pass. They bumped hands as he was making contact with the ball. And the referee's like, well, he obviously knocks it forward intentionally. And there's no attempt to regather. It's like, because he ran into a fucking prop and couldn't go forward. You can't make an attempt when you're being crushed backwards. And that only in disparity to,
00:38:11
Speaker
that. Oh, who was it? Who hit? It was Basham, I think. Basham. Yeah. That fucking shoulder straight to the head like there was
00:38:24
Speaker
duh, how do you not? And that's the problem. Like, I was like, Oh, that's that that was a bad job. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. And it's like, that should have been a straight red, like no question. And but only an Australian referee would find a reason. Because here's the thing about
00:38:44
Speaker
what's-his-ass Razzie with his video and then why he fucked up because instead of talking about the differences like this, we saw it throughout the weekend that the Australian referees don't care about head contact. They don't care at all. Even French referees
00:39:00
Speaker
like they're probably a little harsh on it if anything right because they're like you make us stop stop stop and not play play play because they're like you hurt him he lay there like red card for you right like at least they you know like they maybe they're doing the right thing for the wrong reason but they're still doing the right thing
00:39:19
Speaker
The Aussies just don't care about it. And it's not good for the game. I would have been furious. I was furious with them for that. And right after that, Scotland put on a fucking show. And if they were doing that against 14 instead of 15,
00:39:37
Speaker
I think that's a different outcome. Might have been. And so I'm a little, I'm a little, I mean, I'll take the outcome, whatever, you know, they may not have been doing enough to get themselves in a better position anyway. So right. Bottom line is they didn't score. So I'm not, no, nothing to be said. Just just an annoyance of the match.
00:39:58
Speaker
Annoyances are all over, so it's okay. It was an annoying match, so why not have it end in an annoying way? I suppose so, yeah. You probably followed a couple calls at the end there as well. Yeah.
00:40:09
Speaker
Oh, well. Yeah. So whales get back on track, Scotland. And I said it with a friend. I don't know if anybody's going to win a grand slam in this. So if you have one loss, you're not completely out of it. Right. But so just kind of keep that in mind. I can come back from that. Yep. Let's jump over. This was without a doubt the match of the weekend. And holy shit, did it deliver start different say.
Six Nations Highlights and Performances
00:40:32
Speaker
Oh my God. Just the, this was everything. This was turning off the PA for the Anthem. The place is fucking rocking. Yeah. Um, yeah, they were, they were ready to go. Um, Gavin Villieri. I mean, speaking of, of what I was saying with Darcy Graham. Yeah. Who did he, didn't he like give furlong, uh, how are you really large? Yeah. Um, like,
00:41:01
Speaker
Yeah, I can't remember who it was, but it was some. Yeah, it was somebody large and he did that a couple times. Oh, Bondi Aki. He smushed Bondi Aki backwards. I saw nobody either. All right. Fuck. You don't do that as a 50 kilo wing. No, generally not. Generally not. Not 50 stone. Not 50 stone. Good Lord. I don't know that's a lot. That's off.
00:41:28
Speaker
Yeah, it is off that calculation. No, I don't. Um, I don't think we can knock. I don't think anybody can knock anything whatsoever that Joey Carberry did, um, in the stand and roll for sex. And I, yeah, if anything, he was just as good as we saw sex in the week before. Right. I mean, grand scheme of things you pilot, you know, a team to a six point loss in front this, I'm sorry, this French team.
00:41:54
Speaker
you know, at home in Paris, like, no, that's a you, you know, you lose by, you know, you get the bonus point for the loss you
00:42:03
Speaker
You nobody can expect more from that. Like, reasonably. I don't think you can. Yeah, I even talked to some of the people in one of my projects is that one of the companies is Irish. And so we talked and he's like, Yeah, it wasn't good. Like, but it was France. He's like, Yeah, I know. He's like, What are you gonna do? You can't be he couldn't be mad. He's like, it just sucks that we lost. It does. But they did it themselves proud.
00:42:28
Speaker
They did themselves super proud. Mack Hansen, I mean, sir. Welcome to Six Stations, right? We did. Yes, that was beautiful. I mean, talk about making a fucking stand up out of nowhere. Like that, if you were, if you, your butt was still attached to your seat at that point.
00:42:46
Speaker
I don't know what. What? I was looking stronger. Yeah, exactly. My cat was in my lap. I thought my dad was in my lap. That was my only he's like, couldn't stand up because I was like, whoa. Yep. Right. So yeah. Yeah. I'm not flinging the cat across the room. No. Taz will get all sorts of pissy. Yeah. But it was, yeah, I mean, yeah, great stuff. And that was an absolutely beautiful try. And so was the one that was pretty to it with DuPont.
00:43:16
Speaker
I was like, Oh man. And of course it's interacting. They just know where each other is. So it's great. It was all a grant all around a fantastic match. If you want a great match to watch somebody and show somebody, this is a great one to show. It really was just the, obviously the question is what were they doing kicking for the points when they should have gone for the corner? Like everybody is like, what are you doing? I think everybody in the world was yelling, what are you doing French? Right.
00:43:46
Speaker
I'm like, okay, that's what you want to do. I didn't agree with that at all. No. Had to go into the corner, had to go in the corner, but.
00:43:56
Speaker
They'll learn from it, hopefully at least and take it, take it over the grain of salt. And just, this was a fantastic match. Yeah. Everybody did their part in this one. And good Lord, can we do this one more time somehow? Right. Let's do that one again. Um, I won't spend too much time on the one on Sunday, as much fun as it was for the likes of us that wanted to see Harry Randall play, but he was, he was delicious. I mean, not his kicking so much.
00:44:24
Speaker
We know this is not news. We know is kicking is something to be desired. But he didn't need to. Like you take the balance of that and you say, OK, the times that he fucked up was when he kicked it because, OK, maybe, you know, he went he went to directly to touch or, you know, didn't go far enough or something like that. But it's like box kicking is total like what the fuck good is it most of the time anyway?
00:44:49
Speaker
So his attacking, like it was his, you know, movement of the attack that set up like every try. Yeah, he was really keeping the pace very, very well. I was right. I was the thing I think most people are very happy with with him is the defense never got settled. They had never had a chance to just chill and wait for the night. And, you know, Ben Young's doesn't you know, he gives them that he gives the defense that opportunity.
00:45:17
Speaker
And when you have a Marcus Smith in that, you know, and a Max Melins and Freddie Stewart is showing that he can do a little bit more than just bomb squad. Now so I'm you know now it's kind of a streak. So, I just kind of wish they had another wing.
00:45:36
Speaker
Did they have another? I saw Max Malins a whole lot. I didn't see any other wing. Right. Neither of the two guys have played in that spot. I should think about that when they play a better team. Yeah. Just a thought. Just a thought. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Daily really... It's true. Daily came in pretty early and he also kind of just disappeared. Felt like... Agreed. Agreed. I mean... He had a try, but that's not the point.
00:46:04
Speaker
That was getting tried a game, but he also was a hero and trying to make sure that said, yeah, he did not die. Right. That was very nice of him. And also, obviously, you know, I don't say I don't say nice. I mean, like, yeah, thank God he did what he was doing. He did what he did because he was in trouble. So like, yeah. Yeah. He like thanked him on Twitter. Like it was a whole whole thing.
00:46:27
Speaker
Good. Good. Good. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's about, man. Right. You rewind all the way back to when Tanu Maga ran across, ran all the way down the field to give CPR to, I think it was a Welsh player and then just stopped whatever the fuck he was doing. That's the type of stuff that has to happen on the pitch and look out for each other in these cases. Cause every once in a while there's an awkward one that nobody had meant to do, but it's resulted in something very, very, very bad. So gotta be, gotta be on top of it, boys.
00:46:56
Speaker
So and then let's just follow the conversation about Italy leaving the six nations. Just shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Everyone. Everyone of you. They're they're good. I mean, I'm sorry. They're not like they've played two of the best teams in the world. Right. And they haven't fucking gotten like, I mean, they've gotten beat, but they haven't gotten pants. No, I mean, they're they're they're stepping up there. They're playing hard. They're showing up and
00:47:25
Speaker
They're, you know, they're putting pressure in their own way. And yeah, unfortunately, they got goose egg here. But I mean, if Wales and Scotland play against Italy the way they played against each other. Oh, yeah, it'll be bad. Italy can win. But here's the thing, Georgia, no, they can't. They haven't been at tier one team last I checked. So until that happens, this conversation is over. It is.
00:47:52
Speaker
And it's yeah, they tied in Portugal teams consistently, we will make a pathway. Right. Until then, I don't want to hear a fucking word of it because they get housed every time they play a tier one team. Right. Every time. I mean, if they play like a US two, if they played the US at full strength, I'd take the US. Yeah.
00:48:07
Speaker
Listen, the US has more tier one wins than Georgia does. We beat that one recently. Yes. Okay. So, enough. Just stop. Just stop with that bullshit and let it go, okay? They will make a pathway when these teams can show that, like, they can actually beat a tier one team. Like, I don't care that they don't, like, the opportunities need to be there. I agree with that. But at the same time, like,
00:48:32
Speaker
Until they can prove it. Fuck off. This matchup is the troll fate of the tournament. I know. The absolute troll beat between the Italy bullshit and the anti-Marcus Smith trolls. Oh, I know, right? It's like, oh, everybody just, oh, he didn't. He only beat it. It's like he scored a freaking awesome try. Like him and Maylenz combined for a fucking awesome try. And he was all over the place, too.
00:49:01
Speaker
He was. And so what the fuck? Look, don't want to hear it. Don't want to hear it. This is not this is this is not the time like I get you. You hate and I did like somebody called Marcus myth. That's actually like that works in both directions. I'll take it because he is pretty mythical at this point. But it's not because he's like
00:49:23
Speaker
blessed or like some sort of lord on high. It's just that he's fucking good rugby player. And I mean, he's doing it like it's a lot like like Patrick Mahomes. He's not going to win the Super Bowl every year now. But but you have Marcus Smith on your team and you have a chance to win because he's going to do things that give you a chance to win. But it's not agreed.
00:49:45
Speaker
Yeah, it's just, it is what it is. There's no need to hate. There's no need to be all annoyed by it. Just appreciate it. You're not going to see many talents like that. And when they come along, like, yes, in the future, lots of fans will play like Marcus Smith.
00:50:01
Speaker
But in the past, not many, not many have, you know, Finn Russell, I thought played very Marcus, you know, he and Marcus Smith have very similar games and both have their detractors because I think people aren't ready for it still. Right. These are the people who say, Oh, you get the ball, you run north, south. It's not really you attack the outside attack where you can don't know yourself might be it, but it might not be right. Okay. So, um,
00:50:30
Speaker
Right. He does the things that, you know, and a lot of the other players on the other side did, too. Like, you know, I thought you want he had a decent game. Canoni just was. Yep. And Rosa. That's a dangerous. Yeah, it's nice to have a second pair. Yeah. So there's, you know, it's the way rugby is going. You know, you can see that kind of kind of the past of England now and the future and the future is looking pretty fucking good. Yeah.
00:50:59
Speaker
All right. Uh, let's run through the prem without spending too much time on a few of the
Premiership Match Reviews
00:51:05
Speaker
matches. At least, uh, Bristol, London, Irish, Bristol fucking bottled it. Yes, it did. So bad. That was just poor, very super annoying. And then, you know, two yellow, it was that, yeah, two yellows. Was it red?
00:51:21
Speaker
And a lot of it, I don't know. Lago got redded. I thought there was, I thought there was something right around half now. Oh, no, that was it. Nope. That's it. But that was, that was a, that was a preview right around half. That was, oh, that's right. They got creepy off and just didn't, they, they got scored on. It's like you didn't even do any, like they, they just really, they fucked up that whole, the whole second half. So, and then surely I'm with them. Not like I got credit and it was just.
00:51:49
Speaker
I mean, way to, way to show up at the end to, um, they got a couple of, they got the bonus point. Yeah. You got to decide to play a little bit earlier than that guys. Right. And this was them kind of deciding that they're not like, yeah, they're not going to even challenge. I don't think for, um, yeah. Yeah. This was, uh, right. This was the kind of a must win in that case and credit all the credit to, to the Irish for just.
00:52:19
Speaker
taking advantage the whole time and just doing what they needed to do, like the, the, the mini wins then in, you know, in phase play and what have you, like, you know, when you're, you're, um,
00:52:32
Speaker
at each breakdown of play, you know, when you restart, you're like, OK, well, what's what's the best possible outcome from this? You know, if it's not a try, OK, we'll, you know, gain territory here and there. They want every one of those little battles, it felt like. And and Bristol kind of pissed away a lot of opportunities to win those battles. So good for Irish for stepping up and grabbing the ring. I mean, they're in chat like, look at the fucking look at the table. It's cramped.
00:52:59
Speaker
Four points, four points separate fourth and ninth. Yeah, it's cramped. That's fucked up. It is very cramped. So, you know, every win matters. So, and every point matters. So Irish, Irish getting a bonus point win away from home. Fuck yeah.
00:53:17
Speaker
Yeah, they're, I'm sure they're, I'm sure they're all doing dances over there. Bastards. Yeah. The other, the other, uh, the other Friday night match, uh, I wish I could say it was a match. It wasn't Lester. It wasn't, you know, the 48 or so for, you know, 49, whatever it was when for a bank, kick that pen, I'm like, this is that, that, that's them basically waving the flag. Cause they weren't going to get anything after that. I was like, you should have got to the corner. You dopes or something. Cause you needed it at that point.
00:53:47
Speaker
And they didn't. So they didn't win, which is how we should go in that case. And Chris Ashton had a Chris Ashton match for the ages where he comes in as for, was it at HIA in the first half? Yeah. Staves a try. And in the second half comes in and gets a yellow card. Very ashy. Attaboy, bud. That's the ashy we all know and love. Yeah, we missed you, bud. The only thing you didn't do was actually score a try. That's the only thing he missed out on. Yeah.
00:54:18
Speaker
Well, they didn't really need him to. So the Dolo scored all the tries they needed. All right. Um, let's go to CBS, uh, was in bath. That works. Yeah. So that was, um, the, I mean, geez, this kind of just fell apart in the last, what, 10 minutes for bath. They, they deserve better than this. And they'd tell that last 10 minutes, three tries in the last 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Can't follow a dog who loves that corner.
00:54:48
Speaker
He certainly does. And he's excellent at finding it. Just like the other guy who scored tries, this is excellent at just bowling over. That's kind of an element that they were missing, you know? And, you know, without Willis doing it, like even, you know, even the guys who started, like Shields is an excellent, you know,
00:55:16
Speaker
like sledgehammer kind of guy. And can play, but he needs like people around him that can play. And like Launchbury now, instead of Fafita, switching him in, and Gaskell is again, they played three locks in this. They've really played a plotting team, wasps did in the forwards, until of course, Barbara came in. Barbara came on now, it's like, okay, now you have a little bit of a spark plug. Okay, that really changed, that changed a lot of the match. I did.
00:55:43
Speaker
Good for, but Beth, I mean, they weren't they leading in half or? It was close. Close to it. I thought it was like 1714 or something like that. Yeah, it was close. It was close. They like just a monster performance from from Falotel and Hughes working together. That is. Yeah, that's great. That is going to do some damage. Did you mind if they still had Stu? Well, he scored in this one too, so. Yeah.
00:56:10
Speaker
He got one. He got one in second. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. It was that, it was that 13. It was that, that little bit of gap where Glanville was off for yellow and rocking to uni had already been sent off. So that was, that was what did him in. And that's really, really unfortunate because yeah, bath showed well in this one. One thing I wanted to say about that from this match that, cause it annoys me every week.
00:56:34
Speaker
What the fuck good is a box kick when you're in the attacking end? I don't fucking get it. The only time it worked, the only time it worked was in this match. And you know who made that box kick in the attacking half?
00:56:49
Speaker
Alfie, Alfie Barber. Oh, right. When he kicked it, it was like, just over the 50. They had a quick turnover. And there was no there was certainly nobody it was off. It was off for our first face. So there was really nobody back for math. Right. And he's like, all right, and he kicked him down way into the corner, like just a beautiful box kick that, you know, most, you know, Harry Randall will be like, how do you do that? A little bit, a little bit. So
00:57:17
Speaker
It's just funny that the only good box kick in the attacking half was from a forward. Funny about that one. Just saying is all. Yeah. Let's go down to Devin. This was not the best one for the Gloucester. I hated this match. Yeah. There was a lot to dislike about this match, no doubt.
00:57:37
Speaker
I mean, but in the end for if we look at Gloucester, like their line out problems were the things that bit them the most because they gave away probably three or four in the attacking end when they had they and they've been really good about converting these two. That's the problem. And they they don't necessarily get a ton of them, but when they do, they make it count. And I'm sure Skivington being who he is and the way he wants the team to operate is probably kicking everybody that was in that line out.
00:58:07
Speaker
from here until next week. Well, to me, their problem was that they did, you know, I was saying before with the Irish, like you're doing the things you need to do in the places you need to do them. Like against Exeter, what don't we do against Exeter? We don't take penalties around midfield. We don't take stupid penalties, needless penalties at all. I feel like that's all Gloucester did was take really bad penalties and really stupid places. I mean,
00:58:36
Speaker
you know, the penalty count was 14 to 12. So it didn't. It's where they were. It's where they were. And you know, it may be sometimes it was like deep in the it was either deep in the attacking end, which gives that free clear. Yep. You don't want you want them to play in their own end, because they'll just get even if you turn the ball over, they'll just give it right back to you. So right. You want that. Or they do it at midfield, which is like, OK, now we're going to kick it into the corner and just
00:59:05
Speaker
try to drive you over. And it's like, that's what they're good at. So you can't give them that kind of freedom to do it. Nope. Nope. Nope. So it's, you know, it's a, it's a stinger for, for Skivington's crew. No doubt. Throwing back though. That was great. Um, you know, this is, this was one exit or badly needed as well, their own sake. They were, they were in free fall, a wee bit. So a little bit now that they're,
00:59:34
Speaker
they're back in it now you know they are right back in the hunt they're in six but as you noted there's a lot of jumping run between nine and four so they're six points away from Gloucester in three so like not only are they in position to you know like fuck all these teams are in position to
00:59:53
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure many. I'm sure many teams were hoping Gloucester would do the job, but obviously that did not happen. So here we are. I'm sorry, supporter. I'm not sad about it either. Oh, I know. The gap for second is nice and comfy right now. Thankfully, we'll get to that. We'll get to that further in a minute. Let's jump over to the AJ Bell and the return of Steve Diamond, which brought a little bit of a dust up on the touch line there.
01:00:17
Speaker
I don't know what the hell he was yelling at, but angry old man. So we're just assuming you're just yelling at angry old man things. Right. Cause he's a douche. You know, and another team that kind of showed well for a little bit here, Worcester, and then just kind of after a little while. Well, I mean, look, you look at that lineup.
01:00:42
Speaker
Um, that, uh, that sale put out there and they did, they clearly put out a B team. Like, and they're certainly in the forwards. They're like, all right, we're going to our busy people. We're going to change out our busy people. Like we'll have our backs run because they need to get the run in. And this is a really good team to run on. So like, this is only like.
01:01:02
Speaker
Yeah, Roebuck didn't have a great game, but Aaron Reed did. So it's like... Well, that's the beauty of having a good back three. One of them can have an off game if the other ones pick up the slack. Exactly. And Sam James wasn't like a total hump. Even Sam James was useful in this game, for God's sake.
01:01:20
Speaker
Right. So, you know, you have basically it's, you know, it's, it's your back line. It's weird. That's the total opposite. You know, you have first off a lock playing at eight. Yeah. I know he's, he was good. He's fine. He's rather good. Just okay. But damn, McGinty was, he turned out. Yeah. No doubt.
01:01:44
Speaker
him and it was, it was fun watching him and Quirk combine as well. That, that, that is a great little combination right there. And so fans are going to be missing that. I don't doubt that. Yeah. I, is Faf gone at the end of this year? No, not yet.
01:01:59
Speaker
Oh, okay. Not officially. No, I haven't heard anything specific coming out. Yeah. I spend that money elsewhere. Corky is your guy. Yeah. So yeah, lots of good. Again, this is a team that has been trending in the right direction and they are continuing to do so. And obviously you want to make sure that you take care of the ones like this so you don't screw it up.
01:02:24
Speaker
Right. But good for sale there. They're going Sanderson and company are and that was a fun match to watch. I was a fun team to watch as well. So that's not something that, you know, we've said a very often about sale. So no, we don't credit to credit to Sanders and Co for getting them into, you know, just a little bit better of style rugby. And I'm not saying that what they have in the locker is awful. And you got to have it sometimes because sometimes ugly rugby matches are required. Right. But but this will do you more good and more often than not.
01:02:53
Speaker
Oh, certainly. And now that I think Sanderson has his back three now and that's going to just lock it in. It's such a. It's an element that you need, like as much as people try to, you know, say like, oh, you need to you need this, you need that.
01:03:09
Speaker
It's, you know, having a, and, you know, Oh, you want to, the, the steady hand over, over the, the flash. And it's like some, no, certain physicians, the flash is what you need. Like you got the steady hands elsewhere. You need, you need somebody who can finish and they got two wingers that can finish. You got a full back, you know, when healthy. And now this, his, his brother can, you know, fill in competently, like that's, it clicks when you lock things into place, it just looks much, so much better and it works so much better. So, I agree.
01:03:38
Speaker
Good for sales. They're not the same sale team. This is a fun team to watch. Steve Diamond is gone. That whole bullshit about it. If you bring that kind of attitude, they say that the team takes on the personality of the coach like that.
01:03:57
Speaker
Fuck, that's such a huge personality. You don't want that personality. It takes time to change that personality. He was there for a long time too, so that didn't help. Yeah. Did not help things. Did not help things at all. Let's jump to Sunday and the Stonex. Oh, was there a match on Sunday? I mean, jeez, it was a match. It was a match for quite a bit.
01:04:24
Speaker
Jeez Louise, there was some points where I was good in pucker during this one. I never really felt like there was a little bit where like towards you know, in the second half, I feel like this
01:04:42
Speaker
I feel like saris played the first half, what they were into the wind, right? Yeah. And they, they came away. I was like, that's a serious, um, advantage for a wind. I thought it was about a 10 point wind. So to come out at half tide, I'm fine with that. Cause I thought they would do a better job. The second half of playing field position. And they just kinda.
01:05:01
Speaker
didn't. But I also felt so I felt like we were one stupid mistake go from Dom or van sail away from giving away a frickin try. So I was like, there was that but they had so many opportunities to at times. So like, I mean, that that van sail when they call that back, um,
01:05:19
Speaker
First off, there were a couple, like the try being called back. Like, you know how many times I saw guys get tackled past the, you know, way off the breakdown this weekend? So many, but that one, it didn't even, it did not affect the try. Like, the guy was cleaned out. He was, even if, was it Christie? Like, didn't bring him to ground. He was like five meters deep. Like, he's not coming back in to make a play there on that try. Just to,
01:05:49
Speaker
called to be a dick, I thought. So yeah, but the upside, the one thing I felt very confident in as soon as once we got to halftime was that the scrum would be just as valuable as a weapon, if not more so, because they were absolutely shithousing it. They were, you know, low was rusty. I think you said it. And
01:06:10
Speaker
Not the garage was not a whole lot better. So as soon as we started just crushing that scrum, I was like, yeah, we're going to get penalties out of this and we're going to actually be able to use it. I wish men who had found touch more often than not, but somebody needs to take the boot away from him and give it to goodie or laws, one or the other. I don't care which one. And I do want to give a shout out. I do want to give a shout out to the Quinn's coaching staff for for the lineup change when they put the lineup out.
01:06:41
Speaker
not low, Wilco low was on the bench and Carrod was starting. And I think the whole plan was that, okay, we're gonna give Wilco low 30 minutes. And then they realized, or yeah, about 30 minutes. And then they realized, wait a minute, if we bring him on in 50 minutes, like he's got to stay on no matter what, or like until he gets hurt. I mean, you really don't want that to happen. We want to use as much of him as possible. And like they started him and hoped that he could like soften up the scrum for Carrod.
01:07:09
Speaker
And it just didn't work. I think they pulled them a little bit earlier than they wanted to, because it was just like, this isn't working. And they were probably trying to limp to halftime, but it just, the way the scrums were going was not fantastic for them. And that was very un-woco low like as well. So, right. So I just, credit credit, right. Credit to them for, for flipping it around. Cause that's the safer thing to do for WOCO low. Yeah. Recognizing it. Right. And saying, yep, this is the problem we might have. And sure enough, it was in fact a problem. Right.
01:07:37
Speaker
So good on them. Yeah, it was, as soon as they got that plus, I am not, again, we are not fans of going for posts very often, but when they got that last opportunity, I was just like, post. Right. Don't do anything but that, please. Right. The one like right around 60 minutes. That was a scrum, too. We were just like, no, no, no, go to corner. So, yeah, it was.
01:08:00
Speaker
Yeah, that last one. It's like, okay, let's just win it. Just be done. Just do it and take the lead for good so we can be done with this thing. Right. Because it was like, like you said, the Quinns can score at any time. So it's like, even if you have a six-point lead, that's not really... No. That's why, yeah, I wasn't puckered, but I wasn't... I was not at ease by any means whatsoever. So, yeah, there's that. Okay, maybe I was feeling cocky, I guess.
01:08:30
Speaker
Getting penisy over here. Yeah. Um, I was feeling the Wolfpack defense, so I felt, I felt pretty confident. Yeah. Defense was definitely on point for the good chunk of it. Obviously par, uh, sans the, the DC tribe. Yeah. He does that sometimes. Right. I mean, what the fuck? You can't like, that's Danny care. Can't keep him out forever.
01:08:51
Speaker
No. And Sarri's are kind of shit against from has this year. So yeah, as we noted. So it's, yeah, like you said, these are the dark days of the prem. When you get a win, you take it, right last point when you jump up and down and be happy about it. So teams that got those good for you, teams that got the wins.
01:09:09
Speaker
You know, still good and the losers. Hopefully you got the bonus point or two because you're going to need them come into the season here. And hopefully you want to bet against your friend because that's just that's the most important part. Of course, it is. Of course, it is. All right. Quickly, let's do the whip around and we'll be out of here. No freezack scheme to talk about. So that's OK.
Critique of Major League Rugby Issues
01:09:33
Speaker
Seattle beat Utah.
01:09:36
Speaker
That's not one I thought would go that way, but it was close. So actually, I wasn't too surprised that Los Angeles beat Toronto, as we talked about on the weekend during our draft pod. Legion beat the Jackals. I watched this match. Here's the problem that I have with MLR at this point. There's still a lot of the same problems we have in year five that we had in year one. Like super inaccurate lineups and the commentator is not knowing anybody's fucking name. And I'm like, dude,
01:10:04
Speaker
like do your goddamn homework, please. And I mean, and I'll live with the growing pains of the TMO. That's just how it is. Like, yeah. And the camera quality still kind of shit, which is also something that like people are just like, this looks like it's on closed circuit TV. I'm like, oh, that's not a great comment right there. But the Legion did figure it out.
01:10:24
Speaker
So good for them. That means they're probably well on the way to the direction we thought they were going when we did our MLR preview. Um, and the Jackals showed up good for them. Um, talk leave was, I believe it was the starting hooker for this, the former cluster hooker. Okay. Yeah. Thanks. I, I died. And Trent, Trent was, uh, either 12 or 13 for them as well. Gotcha. Um,
01:10:47
Speaker
New York just as out Houston. So either New York's that bad or Houston's that good. I don't know. I mean, they beat Los Angeles the other week. So LA, so well, I guess we'll find out. Rugby ATL beat Nola. Sorry, not sad that Nola lost. No, not at all.
01:11:03
Speaker
Yeah. How the hell Robbie Coleman still playing after that shot on Walker last week? I have no idea. No, that's bullshit. Yeah. And five and five go through game for what? We don't know. I don't know. I hit on some mysterious off the ball hit that wasn't caught on camera. OK, so that doesn't sound fishy or, you know, conniving in any way, shape or form.
01:11:22
Speaker
No, but, yeah, like that headshot. No. What the fuck? Yeah, that that was a red. That should have been a red. There was no he was doing nothing but going for his head. Nothing. Right. So, yeah, no, you are definitely my most hated team right now. Fuck you guys. And their commentary team that they have for themselves is awful too. Oh, my God. This is awful. I was I was watching the ATO game for a little bit. I'm like, oh, I forgot it's these idiots. You. Oh, it's some old fucker like God, he's
01:11:51
Speaker
He's got to be at least 60. And he's just like, I played back in the, he played in the days where I'm like, basically everything was legal and rugby. And he still wants it that way. I'm like, and the, and the guy that does the play by play is horrible. He's definitely their sealest guy. Like no doubt. Oh man. Yeah. Just try to pronounce everything. Um,
01:12:13
Speaker
I don't remember what I'm trying to think of the example, but anyway, yeah, just use a try hard way too much. Okay, too much. So if I can hate it. Anyway, so I don't even try. I don't want you to think I'm gonna try hard. So if you if you want, if you watch another game, just watch it on mute. They're all the commentary is awful usually.
01:12:30
Speaker
At least while they're at home. I just don't, yeah. Or don't watch their game at all. I don't watch their game at all because it's... When I play the free jacks. Right. And then the Gogroni smashed DC. DC's bad this year, unfortunately. Excellent. Yeah. So, and that's... Yeah, it's not... Going up Friday night!
01:12:47
Speaker
Yeah, we that's kind of what we thought, right? We were like, they kind of just took steps backwards this year. So yeah, I mean, they don't have their usual fly half. He's gone. Mason's gone. So that's yeah, that's less than good for them. No doubt. Yeah, I guess Mungo Mason's playing in like in England for like Oxford or something along with along with Savannah. I was like, Oh, yeah, right. Interesting. Yeah.
01:13:12
Speaker
weird.
Excitement for Upcoming Games and Conclusion
01:13:13
Speaker
But either way, free jacks come up this weekend. They open the weekend on Friday night. Yeehaw!
01:13:19
Speaker
Get to it, get to it, boys. I'm ready, I'm ready. Okay, so that's that. We tried to wrap it all up as fast as possible, I swear. But we appreciate you guys for hanging out with us and bearing with us as it is. But yeah, we will be heading over to the fantasy corner in a minute here. If you are coming that way, we'll see you there. If not, we appreciate you all for hanging out and listening to us and we'll catch you all next week. Have a good one. Later.