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Season 3- Episode 19- We Are Alive, But Eddie's More Not OK Than Us (6 Nations Round 5, Premiership Round 14 & Super Rugby Round 5)
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It is those crazy guys from America that like to jabber about rugby. We are mostly recovered from the watchathon, but still feeling some of the punishment from being up for more than 24 hours. This pod we dive into what the Lions Team heading to South Africa (confirmed, hooray!) looks like. We recap all the penultimate round of 6 Nations including THAT finish in Paris. We get into the Super Rugby and the Richie Mo'unga show, how good is he? Of course, we get stuck into the Prem and all the happenings, including the masterful performance put in at The Stoop. All this, start or sit (with a hiccup) and much more in between! Crack one and tune in!
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Transcript
Introductions and Weekend Recap
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the fancy R&B Hanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauzer. We're alive and well after. Well, we're alive. Yeah, I guess well might be pushing it. Did you did you just like sleep forever between Sunday and Monday? So I crashed. I wanted to wake up at 11 on on Sunday if I could. So I was like, I got home, you know, before nine, I wanted to get like two hours and then try to force it.
00:00:35
Speaker
Uh, the rest of the way, the rest of the way. Yeah. I woke up at like two. Yeah. I woke up at like 12. I was just like, Ooh. All right. That's not bad. Yeah. I can't remember most of the rest of that day. That was a waste. Yeah. Slipped like a rock on Sunday night. Jeez. Um, definitely. But yeah, so we're, we, we managed. It's okay.
Podcast Info and Support
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Um, let's pop these things. Yep.
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00:01:32
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Um, speaking of George, uh, get your, get your fancy rugby geek, a, uh, a coffee, check him out on his website. Make sure that you are looking up his tips. Um, we might have some new tips coming into the loop as we just found out earlier. Um, we'll see. Uh, but anyway, the man deserves a bit of a, a bit of a tip. So go ahead and give him coffee slash beer slash whatever you wish to consider it. It's okay. It doesn't, you can think of it whatever you want.
Fantasy Rugby and Player Changes
00:01:59
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Yeah. It's a couple of quid.
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or dollars depending on where you are. Yeah. Right. Um, get you TRM upgrades. Uh, all the new, all the new bodies returning this week should make for some havoc in the lineup. So havoc is exactly the word. Cause some people, you know, some guys, some teams may throw their internationals right into the mix and some may, may make them wait, especially, you know, a column sheet. We won't know. You might want to, to upgrade yourself and make sure you have the info before you make your final decision on, on Friday morning.
00:02:30
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Yep. So obviously everything goes to support restart rugby, which does a good job with a lot of things that the players need both during their career and after. So as always Black Lives Matter on this podcast, there's no room for racism and anybody that sees a reason to be racist is absolutely not a friend of this pod by any means whatsoever. Nope.
00:02:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's just it's just silly that we have to talk about shit like this every week. And it's like, really, like, even like, even, you know, this isn't necessarily the same thing, but just like, what is with people just throwing abuse around online? It's like, like, what is what is wrong with your life that you need to do that?
Sportsmanship and Online Abuse
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Yeah, there's, I mean, we have so much negativity in our lives. Can't we just use sports as a way? Like, seriously, and as this is coming from a total, you know, reformed hard-o. As far as like, I was like, because I realized it wasn't enjoyable. And so it's like, why am I doing this if I'm not going to enjoy it? So, yeah, the player and ref of use.
00:03:34
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or any commentator, anything, it's gotta go. It's not right. Who the fuck are you? This isn't... So I draw the line of politics. The people who make those decisions impact people's lives. That's one thing. But sports, it's just for fun, man.
Fundraising Success and Rugby Updates
00:03:57
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Just get over it.
00:03:59
Speaker
It's for fun, it's for enjoyment. Is it disappointing when your team shits the bed? It absolutely is disappointing when your team shits the bed, but there's no, if you're hanging so much on that team doing your mood, your general day so much, then you might want to readjust your values. I mean, yeah, it's going to affect your mood a little bit, but that's no reason to do that.
00:04:27
Speaker
No, it shouldn't spark you to, it shouldn't spark you to go, hey, let's go abuse somebody online because I have a miserable life. Right. I think for fuck's sake folks. Yeah. They're not like, you know, they're not upset that they, you know, they lost the game, like, especially, you know, and for most part, we're talking about whales who had the, the, the grand slam, the shit house grand slam, um, right in front of them minutes away and, um, and pooped it. They're, they're,
00:04:56
Speaker
they're feeling it. They're feeling it more than you are. You're just someone watching on TV. You know, it's like, get over it. No, I think it's just terrible. But
00:05:09
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Speaking of last weekend, thank you to everybody that stopped in, that donated. We had, so we raised over $1,000. We hit our goal and we raised over $1,000. Everybody that tried to check in and make sure that we weren't dead. Much appreciated. It's much appreciated. We did not die. We were close, but we did not die. We'll rethink that. I got to say that the part of it that dragged on was that it was just the two of us late in the night. And it was like,
00:05:37
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there wasn't much to talk about because we both had very little energy and it wasn't until people started re-engaging that. We could perk up again. Perked up a little bit. The lesson learned is beyond don't do that again. Make sure you have steady engagement. Have a friend scheduled the phone in or something like that or message in.
00:06:03
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Yeah, maybe we could find somebody from down Tasman way to help us out next time. We're lifesavers at times so so big up to them in particular. Yeah, absolutely.
Pacific Island Rugby Developments
00:06:18
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Let's go to the new cycle, player movement, Joe Tafete, possibly moving back to the prem and being the replacement for Scott Baldwin at Harlequin. So that's good news for him, I think. I don't think Leon's bad by any means whatsoever, you know, but I think.
00:06:34
Speaker
But shit, that's an opportunity to play with some fucking players in there, too. And like, I think he would be a little, you know, Baldwin's not bad, don't get me wrong, but tough. He was in their mix for, you know, world play of the year for a reason. Yeah, he's a fantastic ball carrier, no doubt. And the Harlequins just.
00:06:55
Speaker
Not that they don't have enough bulk areas with their own. That's just going to put him in that much more space, too. So I'd love to see it. And plus, you know, more details in the prem.
00:07:08
Speaker
This is season two. He's been in France as well. So, you know, two seasons in France will open up your perspective a little bit as well. So yeah. Right. This is a champions cup team as well. So yeah, there's, there's lots of for him to still do there if he does in fact, make this move. Right.
00:07:25
Speaker
The block monster has returned. Sam Manoas re-signs with Seattle. Hasn't played rugby for a little bit. Took time off to take care of his family and do the things he needed to do. I'm glad he's back. Yeah, everybody's glad he's back. I'm just not looking forward to seeing him play the free jacks. No, I mean, if I had any more reason to not want to play Seattle. There. There it is.
00:07:53
Speaker
No, thanks. So yeah, good to have you back. I'm a big guy. Um, Pacific Island, super Ruby teams got a huge boost recently. Um, within the last day and getting big financial backing from world Ruby, which is, and this is what we were asking. Awesome. This is, this is what we were saying back when, when the, you know, the, um, leadership, uh, was being decided. It was like, we need, you know, we need someone who's, who's willing to do this and,
00:08:23
Speaker
I think you and I weren't terribly optimistic about it. No, not with Beaumont going back in. Right, with the choice. But it's happening. And so I couldn't be happier like this. And it's this is just so good for for rugby overall. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm I'm yeah, this is going to be awesome for
00:08:45
Speaker
Super rugby is going to be awesome for the islands and being able to have players stay home and play professional rugby and to grow the sport. It's already a popular sport and amongst the islands they don't have the financial backing that they need in order to make it a real thing and it will be
00:09:04
Speaker
It needs the significant investment that they just don't have. And that's it. Just once they have that investment, hopefully, you know, with a TV deal, this would make it much more, you know, hopefully, you know, they'd be much more friendly to open it to dealing with ESPN.
00:09:19
Speaker
Well, New Zealand has agreed to share TV revenue with these teams. So that's the good news. That's excellent. Yeah. And we'll see if, I mean, I wouldn't expect too many guys from the prem, but I would expect guys who are, you know, certainly it's going to be kind of like the, at least an MLR kind of thing where it's like guys who may be towards the end to be like, Hey, you know what? I'll go for a run down there again. Like one last run with the boys, bring up the new.
00:09:47
Speaker
Uh, you know, that next generation be the old head there to guide, you know, a team until it's established. Yeah. You might also see some, some of the island guys that are playing in France, England, you know, uh, the UK in general, um, Ireland, they may go home.
00:10:03
Speaker
You know, they may say, you know what, I'm going to go back and play for these guys because it doesn't matter who I play for because my team will pick me, my country will pick me either way if I'm good enough. So I'm going to go home and get support, give support to these guys. So I think there's a lot of good that's going to come from this. There's a ton of good that's going to come from this. And in the end, you know, yes, you want to, yeah.
00:10:25
Speaker
You look at guys like Nakarawa who signed with Ulster, but if he sees this as a viable option after he's got a year contract with Ulster next year. So if he sees those teams as a viable option afterwards, but, and that does a good thing for Ulster because okay, they don't just have some, you know, some mercenary play playing lock for them. They have to actually go and fill that with an academy guy or something like that. You know, so I'll be from the islands too, Rettunierawa.
00:10:54
Speaker
Uh, yep. Yeah. That's like, that's a guy who's like, Hey, I'm in the, I mean, he's in the mix in Northampton, but shit, that would be a hell of an opportunity to go back and be, you know, probably the starting second row for one of those teams. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. It'll be guys like that. Um, I'm not sure about the, like, uh, um, like a rod, Rodra, I don't know guys who were like establishment and.
00:11:17
Speaker
Depends on how he feels, you know, it's like that. Yeah, I mean, he's cute, cute, but, you know, oh, he is. Yeah, you might go. You might go there just the same. Right. Is he just is he just kiwi capped? I don't know if he's been capped. He played for the Blues. I'm pretty sure. OK.
00:11:39
Speaker
I don't know. You could have the PSO's go back there. That'd be a good one for them. That'd be a good, that'd be a good gift for those two teams right there. Getting those guys to show up to one of those. Obviously we're optimistic about this in our hearts. Yeah. Looking very much forward to it. Yep.
Lions Tour Planning and Selections
00:11:57
Speaker
It's going to be great. Can't wait to have them back in.
00:12:00
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Lions tour is going forward to South Africa. Even it has to happen. You know, this is fans are without fans. It's going to suck. They're going to try and do everything they can to make sure that they get some fans so they can get some, you know, because the other part of it is like this is money into South Africa's, you know, economy and also to into their, you know, the art, the
00:12:28
Speaker
South African Rugby Unions conference as well. Well, I mean, no fans can match, so I'm not sure how much. I don't know how much that helps. Right now, that is the plan, but they're definitely going to bust. Yeah, it could change. They're going to bust their humps to see if they can get anything possible in terms of fans in the stands, which would be great. But either way, this tour needed to happen no matter what.
00:12:55
Speaker
So whether it was in the UK with no fans or in South Africa with no fans or anywhere, any option in between, it was going to be good. So we can finally start talking about who's on the plane and who's not.
00:13:11
Speaker
There's a lot we talked about, you know, I think it was a point made this past weekend by a pundit that I'm not naming because I don't like him. But there are a lot of guys that played their way off of the plane, not necessarily onto the plane. Definitely. You know, so. Yeah, I you know, there was one of the things that was made a big deal to do about to me was that that whole Alice Genj.
00:13:37
Speaker
well let's call it hand fighting with handbags yeah with um jonny sexton on the deck and it's like yeah everybody was giving him shit about it but it's like look that that happens at the bottom of a rock that happens all the time at the bottom of the rock just because it's jonny sexton but at the same time that's the kind of thing that that gens
00:14:01
Speaker
had to move, he can't be like, if he's gonna be on the Lions tour, I think that's a potential thing that would get him. If he was on the bubble, it would be, it's a decision maker, right? It's between him and someone else. Right, I agree. So let's try and run through it. I'll try and give a couple options. Lou said, McElhore wins Jones.
00:14:28
Speaker
I still like Mako. Like when Jones started strong in the six nations, but I thought he kind of fell off. I don't think he was nearly as productive in later matches as he was. Whereas I thought Mako got stronger. Yeah. The Scrummaging still could be better. Ken Owens or somebody else? It's Ken Owens. Yeah, I think so too. That's one of those like, it would basically between him and Jamie George, I think. And Jamie George didn't play super strong and LCD didn't do well, so. No.
00:14:58
Speaker
Yeah, LCD was not aside from his little quirky, you know, no arms. Yeah, that's, that's really all he did. Yep. Sinclair for a long. For a long. Yeah. For a long, all day for me. All day. Somebody had, somebody had Fagerson ahead of Sinclair. I was like, new, not even close, not even close.
00:15:22
Speaker
which one of them got suspended for the rest of them. Right. Yeah. And he didn't necessarily, I think he did, he did himself, he didn't do himself justice with that. He's not terrible, but he's not as good as either of those other guys. So just get off it. I think Francis might be about the same level as him and that Francis should not be on this tour. Right. I would take Francis. So because Francis is like a sure rucker and doesn't, you know, he, he was crushing it there to give an extra exit or man some props.
00:15:50
Speaker
uh, locks. We talking Maro and Alan, when like shoe ends, or are we, is there a battle in there? I mean, maybe Johnny, maybe gray, maybe burn is, has something to say about it. Um, and maybe even Johnny Hill. Um, maybe, but
00:16:08
Speaker
Like the thing is, Mauro can do things that none of them can do. Right. So that's why I think he started. That's why he didn't have a great tournament because he just every so often he showed the flashes of like, yeah, it was that the play in England match where he's just like, my ball now like he can still do that and just just be like, you know, not win possession. He will just assume possession. Yeah. Yeah, he definitely does that. So so.
00:16:37
Speaker
We'll assume we'll assume we know who the event is. At six. Are we putting standard mesh, either of those guys there.
00:16:52
Speaker
I like Mish. Yeah. I think, but he might be my seven. I'm like a Tipperick six and him seven. Yeah. I think most people will tell. We're in Gatmo. We'll put Tipperick at seven. If it's, there's that, but I can almost guarantee you he's going to put him at seven. Yeah. So yeah, but you know what though? The problem is, okay. So you have to also remember going against South Africa. So we're not looking for pure fetchers back there. Um,
00:17:18
Speaker
So there needs to be, there has to be some power too. And like Itoje is not the most powerful guy. He can do some, you know, he's strong, don't get me wrong. But like, he's not, you know, like Alan Wynn is pretty powerful. But again, it's still, you know, with those two, it's just not the beef, right? So I think you're gonna have to back it up with a
00:17:44
Speaker
Uh, pretty mighty six six. Yeah. Cause if, if, if, I mean, if Sam Simmons or eight, like, God, I don't know how he isn't.
00:17:52
Speaker
Like I can't imagine. So your other options are CJ Standard, which we talked about probably putting in six instead of there. Valentine's played his ass off. I'll give him that. He's on the plane. There's no doubt about that in my mind. Billy, no. And yeah, so after that, it's Sam Simmons. Yeah. If you want to beat South Africa, Sam Simmons has to be on that plane and he has to be in your 15. Yeah, I agree.
00:18:16
Speaker
That's how it could be yeah i could see him it's you could go to six as well there's another option w so they have options there at least there you go plenty plenty of headache there at least i'm nine is either in my head either merrier davies. Yeah i mean i.
00:18:36
Speaker
I consider Ali price in there too. He's probably on the plane. Yeah. He's probably on the plane. I'll give you that. He'll probably play the, the, um, some of the mid week match. Um, do we even debate about 10? Ben Russell. Oh, it's been. Yeah. It's been all day. Okay. So there's that, that probably starts out on 12. Is it fair?
00:19:02
Speaker
No. OK. Not if you want to win. No, that's probably true. Shit, we're supposed to win these things. Yeah. You know, this isn't England where you want to have, you know, your your runner at 10 and then a you know, like they they they, you know, flip them intentionally. But this isn't that kind of tour. And I was just not the playmaker and he's his his head's not in it right now.
00:19:28
Speaker
You can see it, like, you know, the he'd lost it certainly by the way, you know, the whales match. And it just he never like the smirking and the like he's acting like a shitty like a bratty student called up by the teacher. And it's like, dude, you're being you're being a dick. Don't don't be all smiley about it. Like, fuck off. So yeah, he's been pissing me off. To me, he's one of those guys who played himself off the plane. Yeah.
00:19:57
Speaker
And so for me, 12, like that's the problem, like the centers. That's a tough spot. Because I, you know, shit, who played really well at the Welsh center? Yeah, who was that? Davies. Davies. I thought
00:20:16
Speaker
was the play of the tournament at the Last Lines Tour. So he's not done himself any harm since then. And I just liked his style of play. And it was certainly it was something I hadn't seen it from him in a while. So I don't know who else I would throw at 12 to be honest.
00:20:37
Speaker
13, is it North? Is it Harris? Is it Ringrose? I mean, you know, I want it to be North. Yeah. Um, although I'm not sure about this tour, I don't know that I want him to go on the tour. Right. For his own safety. Right. These are big fucking boys. Yeah. These are big assholes right here. And I want, I want George North to live past this summer. I don't know that I want him going on the tour. Right.
00:21:08
Speaker
We can probably pen in Stuart Hogg as fullback. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think Louis Reesammon is one of the wings. I do too. I totally agree. And Josh Adams. Yeah, that's a good shout. But I think we can also, I think, and I pooed on a little bit, but he played a lot better over the tournament. And that was, that would be Keith Earls.
00:21:31
Speaker
Yeah, you got a lot better over the tournament. Certainly made the other guy on the other wing look pretty bad. The way he played, you know, just didn't help. So and then, you know, and then we have a bolter with Duhan van der Merver probably as well. I'd say he's probably playing because he's got that. He's got that size as well. Oh, I mean, size, speed, athleticism, just everything you want. Which would you would you maybe try to throw him at 13? I don't know if he's played it much to a problem.
00:22:01
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, if he hasn't played it much, it's like, but like the lines he can run. Yeah. Maybe you pick up the phone to Edinburgh and be like, can you possibly try him at 13 please?
00:22:17
Speaker
Cause they have this cause next week's the pro 14 final or this weekend. And then they have this exhibition tournament that they're doing to end the season to involve the South African clubs. So block screw around a little bit. Why not? You know? Yeah. That'd be a thought at least. Yeah. I wonder if he's ever had experience there. Cause I mean,
00:22:37
Speaker
Again, with Flurry Samet and Josh Adams, their speed and size, like they're not small guys. So they can hang. And yeah, I'd like to still get Duhan on if possible.
Women's Six Nations and Recaps
00:22:51
Speaker
So that's what I would like to see. He's a hell of a bolter off the bench. All right. So that's the general idea. We'll see how things play out as the rest of the season goes here.
00:23:06
Speaker
Women's six-station fantasy, we are in. We are totally into that. So hopefully we can get the games on over here at some point. That'd be kind of nice. That'd be nice. You know, God, I know this was Australian super rugby.
00:23:19
Speaker
Yeah, seriously. Let's go. Anyway, somebody get on the shit. Let's go. We got nine days to get this thing done. So let's do it. But anyway, let's go over to Six Nations real quick. We're going to try and spend very little time on many of these matches because Ben and I were online and broadcasting when this happened. So if you want to see whatever garbled dots we had, you can go ahead and watch that. Scotland, Italy. Anything else?
00:23:47
Speaker
Uh, nothing really out of the ordinary, right? Unfortunately, Italy with, uh, you know, a couple players showing good, but that's not, not nearly enough. Nope. Nope. Nope. Yeah. Unfortunately, with some excellent performances of their own. Right. Um, yeah. Stuart, I was like, yeah, there's 10 things. No problem. No big deal. I can do it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. My ass. Um, yeah, it was Italy, uh, Ireland, England, and Dublin.
00:24:17
Speaker
Oh, just bleh. Good island. They put in a hell of a performance for themselves. Great shift from the boys in green, but man, you know, England, the school line flattered them. They got scores when they were up two guys. Let's not sit there and toot their horn too hard by any means whatsoever. It was a dreadful performance to just cap a dreadful Six Nations. Really was.
00:24:53
Speaker
not worthy of remembrance, unfortunately. And, and hope but except for hopefully it's, you know, it's hopefully this is the end of Eddie, to be honest, I'm done with it. It's not working. And it's not just the players, it's the style of play. So it's like when you have the combination of those two things. You know, you can't just I've heard people say he loses control of the team, you know, of the selection. It's like, that's not enough, because he's still gonna have them do the things he wants them to do. Yeah, it's just
00:25:14
Speaker
Yeah, and dreadful by pretty much everybody.
00:25:25
Speaker
You know, it's almost to the point where if they keep riding Eddie, I'm just going to root against him. I just can't. I can't. I can't root for this style of play.
00:25:32
Speaker
So and I think a lot of people are with I think a lot of people like are just kind of like, why are we watching this? Yeah, it's not the thing is he plays the perfect. It is the perfect style of play if you're the underdog. So like this is, you know, if you're Japan playing South Africa, if you're England playing New Zealand, this is the kind of style of play you. Yes, you want to play. You want to keep it tight.
00:25:59
Speaker
you know, and hope you can, you know, wrestle control of it early or, you know, or midway through the match, or you released it within striking distance at the end. And it's like, yes, that's a perfect way to play if you're the underdog and you don't want to get housed. But when you're the better team, nine matches out of it, out of 10 that you may play in a while, this isn't the style of play you want to play. So it's like, if you, even if you put Sam Simmons on that team, does that make a difference? Really?
00:26:29
Speaker
Not the way they play now. So what's the dumb with the arrogance too? Yeah, exactly. That too. Like you don't just dumb with the arrogance. Yeah. Coaches.
00:26:41
Speaker
And players will back him and yada yada. Nobody wants to get, a few of them already come out, but nobody wants to get ax either. So they're just like, yeah, I don't want to get axed on the off chance that they keep him. So I'm not going to say anything. And nobody's a stupid, you know, even Ganges and the stupid like, come on. Right. But I can't imagine that like, you know, players are going to be like, yeah, I can't wait for the next study. You know, I can't wait to work with Eddie again. Like, I mean, I wouldn't,
00:27:07
Speaker
Players and somebody had a list of like guys that are just like out out in the cold right now. That shouldn't be Simmons is one of them. Obviously care and Brown are both in superb form and they're just like where to be found. It's like Dom Brant to yeah, Dom Brant. Play six. I mean really would you not want him over like as much as we both are in love with Mark Wilson. I love Wilson's work, right? There's no doubt about that.
00:27:33
Speaker
But if I have the option of him or Dom brand at six, sorry, Mark, like, yeah. And, and you know, yeah, he's, he's just a playmaker. The other things too. So impact stuff. Right. So no, I listen, I love Mark Wilson. I think he's, I think he's,
00:27:51
Speaker
He's everything about rugby that you love, but he's just not quite as good as Alistair O'Brien. And that's just how it is. And that's not saying anything about Matt about Mark Wilson, but he means good. Alistair O'Brien's fucking good. We're going to talk about the match in a little bit, but fuck, that guy's pretty good.
England's Performance Critique
00:28:10
Speaker
You know, it's not like I'm comparing him to a shit sandwich.
00:28:14
Speaker
I'm sure Mark Wilson would be like, Yeah, you picked him. Okay, fair play. Yeah, whatever, man. I'm good. Right. All the beer. I'm good. Yeah. Oh, man. Eddie is not okay. No, it's so that you know, because you also think about the players who are playing you want to play with the best and you know when you're not right.
00:28:33
Speaker
you know, when you're like this guy, why do we have this guy instead of, you know, some somebody like, you know, if we had a choice, fuck, I don't want to play with this guy. It happens. And happens all the time. I still don't understand the whole Lester business either, aside from Ford's, but that's got to go to all of them. Like, yeah, I don't quite understand.
00:28:57
Speaker
I just think you need to face the fact that the guys that you're picking, many of the guys you're picking right now, including Ford, maybe Farrell, Youngs, there's a bunch of other names that I'm skipping over. I swear to God, I'm not just trying to single them out. They're not going to be on your woke up 2023 team if you want to win. Right. Johnny May is on that list. There you go. There's no one.
00:29:18
Speaker
Yeah, no, no fact. Sorry, just how it is. Just how it is. There's a lot of guys on this team that won't be on that, that should not be on that plane to France. And yeah, and I'm not sure daily is going to be on that plane either. So it's like probably not. No. And then play certainly, certainly did not give himself any shot at the lion's tour. Right. Yeah. That's it. Oh well. Yeah. Oh well. Yeah. Let's move on to the, Oh man.
France vs. Wales Match Highlights
00:29:44
Speaker
What? What a finish. France and Wales.
00:29:48
Speaker
Five minutes of, what the fuck just happened? Doolan was due. He needed, he should have got a try and finally got that one at the death. I was like, this is amazing. I love rugby. Pretty much. That was pretty much our response.
00:30:10
Speaker
It's definitely the most entertaining match I have watched in in a while. It was fantastic. It had all the things you didn't want in it, all the things you wanted. It was like, oh, my God, I am just this is like I can't imagine being a French or a Wales fan. I was I was feeling it. I had no fucking horse race, you know. Yeah, I was just watching the rugby. I could feel my heartbeat. I was I was I was pumping at the end of this match. And like, as Jared said,
00:30:40
Speaker
No, I didn't give a fuck at that point. Who won? Didn't matter to me. That'd be like if you had some steak in it. I apologize to those of you who maybe needed to take an extra blood pressure medication or you know, have a few extra beers that night. Yeah. Yeah. No joke. I can't blame anybody for that. No. Amen. It was, it was amazing stuff. Roman into America's back.
00:31:06
Speaker
There's no question about it. Like there was any doubt about him, whether or not he was the best 10 in the world after Jelly Bear performed very well this tournament. It's all been put to bed. He is without a doubt the best 10 for France. No question about it. It's just, and then, yeah. I mean, you know, Wales did a lot of good things in this match, but they didn't finish. That was the problem. They, they, yeah. Um, so we get a red card, get it. Yeah. It just,
00:31:36
Speaker
Yeah. Well, while them, so I got the, got the red card. Yeah, I'm sorry. It was, yeah, foul towel. And then Liam with the, with the, like one after the other. Um, yeah, it hurts. And we had some, we had something for persistent infringement and then we had a cynical foul on top of it. And that's, that's what got it. Right. Yeah. And then that, that was two tries and the conversion later and that that's, that's match. Just.
00:32:04
Speaker
Unbelievable. Unbelievable match. Unbelievable match. Just, you know, both teams take a bow. Too bad that both won a medal, is it? You know, Wales was kind of throwing everything they had at the end, which wasn't much, but like, French just showed the fun. They fronted up at the end. Like, Olivier willed. He scored the try that was disallowed. And then before he got over again, he was not. That's one of those, you know, that was a captain not letting his team lose.
00:32:34
Speaker
He is every bit the part of the French captain, no doubt about that in my mind. And he just showed everybody exactly why Gaultier trusts him. You know, and credit to Gaultier, Gaultier is not a great coach.
French Rugby Tactics Analysis
00:32:49
Speaker
If you haven't seen him do it before, he's not a great coach. But what he's done is he figured out, okay, I kind of suck as a coach. He's got his player selection pretty well down pat. So that's one. That's something that's 100% within his control.
00:33:01
Speaker
But after that, he said, you know what, I kind of suck at a lot of other things. I want to bring in some really smart people to help me out, though. And he has. And he's done some really good things, including Sean Edwards, which was obvious, which has obviously made a huge impact on this team, because if there was one thing that needed to go up like 10 notches on this French team after 2019, it was the defense. Yeah. No question. And have. Yeah. And implementing the, you know, an actual structure and attack like these are these are these are adjustments that a lot of, you know, it's one of those like
00:33:33
Speaker
If you know you're a bad coach, surround yourself with the best you can get and learn from them and let them do what they do. That makes them so much better than most good coaches, I'll even say. Who won't learn, who won't use others and won't like, yeah.
00:33:49
Speaker
Yeah. They're not going to cheek your job. Just, you know, there are only a few Mike Fords in the world, so they're not going to take your job. And if you know, if you, yeah, as long as you make sure you don't surround yourself with someone like that, it's, you know, you looking to contribute to a positive environment, like fuck, do that, do that, change, adapt.
00:34:09
Speaker
Loads of credit. They've put, they've given themselves a shot. The teams have already been announced and it is going to be tasty this coming week. Oh man. I'm going to enjoy watching that match. Me too. No question about it. Yeah. And it's like at noon. It's like right after lunch on Friday. Yeah. Good stuff. Okay. Um, super rugby.
Rugby Match Reviews
00:34:33
Speaker
I mean, talk about, are you not entertained? Yeah. That was some good stuff from both clubs. Obviously chiefs figured it out in the end, but man, that was a, that was a fantastic game. If I wasn't so half half-assed, I would have totally been like, yes, this was amazing. It really was. Yeah. And like the, yeah, because this one of their scores, I can find the, uh,
00:34:57
Speaker
They were, they were friendly. Bang, bang. Right. Like, yeah, like six, um, like five minutes apart. Um, yep. That sounds right. 68th minute, 76th minute. Just, um, who scored that last one? Uh, to you, to you. I think it's scored at 57. I thought it was Weber. Oh yeah. He scored early. I don't know. I'm trying to remember. Yeah. I don't remember either. Um, but yeah, it was just a fun match. Um,
00:35:27
Speaker
You know, these are not... I think that this is kind of a...
00:35:34
Speaker
I think these are the two worst teams in the division. Oh, probably, probably made for an entertaining match. Cause they really just, you know, went toe to toe. And, um, neither team really, even when, when the canes were, were winning, it was like, no, it's right there for the cheat. Like it wasn't really that much of a surprise that they, they, uh, they worked their way back in it. It was as long as they could actually attack. That was the only thing if they figured out their attack, then, um,
00:36:01
Speaker
You know, and they scored what two? Yeah. It's like those two quick jacobs and got the winner. That's right. Jacobson. Um, yep. Yeah. It was, it was, it was fantastic stuff all around.
00:36:11
Speaker
No question about it. And, you know, we saw the, we saw some good stuff. Rayasi, I'm so glad he's getting a shot now because they've had some bodies leave. He's been there and he's been just on the edge of super OB like ability and he's shown flashes and this was great. This was great. Um,
00:36:34
Speaker
And you know, I got to give my hurricanes credit or been ledger was their fucking 10 in this match. That is that is a hey, you've been drinking yourself into a stupor every other night, but we need to fly half come, come play for us move and he played he played fairly well and the club played fairly well. So I'll give the cane some credit. But yeah, this was definitely a battle of the two worst teams probably in the division, but oh, well,
00:36:59
Speaker
I have written the season off of the hurricanes. I love my hurricanes. I know that we are fucked this season, so not happening. I'm not stupid. I'm not as stupid as I look. We're pretty sure the Crusaders are the best, and Blues and Highlanders are a fucking close match for number two. There's that gap there.
00:37:20
Speaker
I think these two teams are and and that's not that's kind of the same thing about that. Mark Wilson, Alex Dombrandt thing like that's not to say anything negative about the Chiefs or the Hurricanes. It's just not going to happen given the other three teams in the in the division. Great.
00:37:36
Speaker
So agreed but but they're still they're still fronting up. They're still putting up a real good fight and showing, you know playing really well So I'm pleased, you know, except for you Quinn to pie. I'm still fucking done Yeah, you've you've made that abundantly clear at this point and he has made it abundantly clear that he's not getting any better So can we please definitely not definitely not I agree with that
00:38:01
Speaker
Yeah, let's go to Auckland, Blues and Crusaders. This guy named Richie Melunga is not bad. We talk about him every week. I can't help it. He fucked up early. I can't remember what it was. That was it though. Yeah, he was human. I don't remember what it was. You're right. I don't remember. I was like, oh, he is human. Maybe Richie Melunga is going to have a bad day.
00:38:25
Speaker
No, that's silly. Oh, man. Never mind. No, never mind. No, that's not going to happen, is it? Nope, it didn't. It did not. Yeah, it was. It is good. This whole this whole tournament has been the Richie Moronga show and it's not fair. It's too damn good. Amazing. Yeah. So much fun to watch. Oh, it's it's a blast to watch him. Especially when it's not against my team.
00:38:55
Speaker
Right? Yeah, I love I mean, just, he is so fucking good. And there was, you know, it's not to say that anybody else in this match is terrible. Again, just like, right guy is just amazing. And yeah, he's definitely all blacks 10. There's no question about that in my mind. If they ever if they want a shot at 23, that is their 10. Sorry, buddy. I love you, man. No, I'm good for the hurricanes. He's not the 10. It's Richie mong. Right? No doubt in my mind. And you put
00:39:22
Speaker
you put Bowdoin back at 15 because yeah absolutely he's only the best 15 in the world so yeah absolutely what are you gonna yeah it's yeah it's not it's maybe not be his preferred position but um he's still as i said the best 15 in the world so you put me on get 10 yeah absolutely
00:39:39
Speaker
You know, and he came, he came back to finally bite the blues. Jonathan River played awful in this match. I was, yeah, I know, right? It was shocker of the day. Finally came back to bite him. Finally came back to get him. Finley Christie should have been on way earlier. He's definitely their best nine. No doubt about my mind. And I like Sam knock. I think he's probably their best, best backup. No knock on him.
00:40:05
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah, this is this
Player Performances and Critiques
00:40:09
Speaker
might be Jonathan. Jonathan Rivers last game for a little while. It better be. I don't know. How long have I been talking about room?
00:40:17
Speaker
badly for a long time. Three or four years now. I'm done. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He's not good. Yeah. He's past that high. That's only fairly recently compared to Jonathan Ruru. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not good. No. All right. Let's, uh, let's zip up to the Northern hemisphere. Newcastle was, um,
00:40:36
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, anything else to add? This was this was a decent display from was a gutsy display from them. They needed something. Yeah. And it's, again, Newcastle are kind of the practice girl of the league. Yeah, they're falling off, which is too bad. They are. They ran.
00:40:55
Speaker
They gave it their best shot, but I don't think it's sustainable for the club at the moment. The guys are realizing, oh yeah, Prem, okay. We catch my breath and the rest of the Prem's like, no, we're good. Let's go.
00:41:11
Speaker
It's, yeah, it's just not happening well for them and wasps. Same thing has been happening with wasps too. They've been sputtering. So maybe this, this helps get them back into, into the groove, especially with some of their six nations guys coming back. Yeah. And Barbary returned in this match, which was only, only helpful. Didn't he turn, didn't they? I think they were losing when they, when he came on and they were winning by the end of the match. Something like that. Sounds right. It must be a coincidence.
00:41:39
Speaker
Yeah, his carries don't do anything ever. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure it was just a sheer coincidence. Yeah. New Castle were very, very ill-disciplined and end up costing him in the end. Um, Quinn's Gloucester. Wow. Just wow. I think Quinn's just scored another try. Right. Yeah. I mean, and this was not,
00:42:08
Speaker
by any means, Gloucester's strongest team whatsoever. Not even a little bit, but like- No, Chamin played well and did himself justice by grabbing a couple of tries. Let's be fair. Gloucester played, they started
00:42:29
Speaker
They fucked back. Like they didn't, you know, there was it. One, two, three. After the ban on hand red target, the things really started to come south. I mean, Chapman scored, Freddie Clark scored. Like they were the ones, they were scoring points, you know, into the, even into the second half, they were the ones who were scoring. And then.
00:42:48
Speaker
Um, yeah, the red card, red card just kind of did it. I mean, they were already kind of a home free, but yeah, but it was, but still there was like the thought, you know, maybe that, you know, maybe we get something out of this match and then insult to injury for Benny. Yeah. I guess where I was going with that was that credit to Gloucester for, for pulling back some momentum. Oh, well to the, to the guys that were on that field, absolutely. Like.
00:43:15
Speaker
they could have easily just said, fuck it. And there are a lot of teams that would have, and they didn't. So yeah, we'll just credit to them. Especially with, with some new guys playing, you know, like, like your, was it Morris? Um, yeah, Jake Morris. And, you know, we'd talk about, you know, Joe Howard and, you know, Isaac Marsh and all these, just Academy products. And it's like, yep. And there's out there, go play. And yeah.
00:43:40
Speaker
There's guys on the other side named Alex Dombrandt and Danny Care. That didn't do him any good. Yeah, but it's that's good experience, right? I mean, yeah, exactly. You know, for hey, congratulations on your first match, you get to play against Alex Dombrandt like Danny Care, like those are your eight, nine times that you're playing against. Oh, and not to mention Will Evans, who's one of the best. He's definitely a way up there on the on the sevens right now, for sure. And no question about that in my whole back line for Quins, though.
00:44:09
Speaker
The whole back line. Had a day. When was the last time you've seen, you know, seven players have a day like that? That was a day for them. Holy shit. Especially, you know, the likes of Northmore and Murley. Like, wow. Just wow. And Green has kind of figured himself out. Yep, good on him. Northmore had almost 200 meters.
00:44:36
Speaker
He was too short. He was too short of 200 meters. That is absurd. These are video game numbers. That's what they put up. And it, you know, Oh man. And, but it's just the quinns are, are obviously, um, they're, they're playing with the ball a little bit, just a little bit. Um, tiny bit. It's coming up real good for them. So, um,
00:45:07
Speaker
I don't know. I'm kind of interested in seeing who they play this week and how that match could be very, um, scoot over to the, the muddy Sandy park. Exeter Lester. Anything to add really? Um, uh, the scoreboard doesn't really tell the tale. I don't feel, um, I mean, Exeter, we're just in control this whole match.
00:45:37
Speaker
And it. And Lester, I don't know, and then Cobas, then Vic. Oh, yes, you got four weeks, by the way, four weeks, we saw. Yeah, I saw that, which it was originally six. You got, you know, yeah, you got four still. Right. You still got four. Like, that's that's pretty bad.
00:45:58
Speaker
Yeah, and O'Flaherty is just on fire, as is Woodburn. Yeah, their play to Exeter, they just beasted this match. They're clearly not pleased about their position on the table. There's only so much they can do about it, but they're doing what they need to do convincingly. Quite, quite, quite.
00:46:24
Speaker
That's where I am with that. Yep. Kind of a similar situation to Quinn's and Glosser, Bath and Worcester. Worcester name a very, very young side, Finn Smith at 10. Some of their players did themselves justice and said, hey, I deserve to be in every 23 you name. Perry Humphries, I think is one of those players.
00:46:45
Speaker
Uh-huh. We agree. He played his bum off, for sure. And we saw the ability that Bath have, for sure.
00:46:56
Speaker
You know, and we saw the likes of Will Muir playing sevens and, and doing his thing and what it, what it means to his ability on the field. Uh, some guy named Zach Mercer is pretty good. I mean, it's starting to look like, I mean, their best, this is their best back three, certainly.
00:47:17
Speaker
Yeah, I don't I mean Watson will come in and get some sort of that's true. He'll get a plug in there. I would imagine I get really other than that. Other than that. Yeah. Other than that, especially if they're doing what they're doing, I feel like he and Rory and Rory's been sharing some tips with them and working with them because obviously they had they both share that sevens background. Right. But took him a little bit to get going. But now he's.
00:47:44
Speaker
He's got fire. He's got fire. Yeah. And he's looking very Rory like to like, well, he's the things he's doing. Look, remind me a lot of like Mcconaughey. Yeah. Yeah. So very story like exactly. And I like, you know, they're back row to the rear under Mercer, as you were saying. Yeah. And I was going to get thrown into that as well soon here.
00:48:06
Speaker
After looking where are they on the table? I mean, they're creeping up. They're in top six now. Yeah. You've been saying there's, you know, there there's life there. Short way out of the top four. So yeah, there's life there. Good for them. Yeah. All right. Let's go Sunday. North Hampton and Bristol.
00:48:26
Speaker
We talked about France Wales as a finish. This was probably a solid second right here. Take a bow and a urine. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, this is a good way to come back and score two tries. It was right off the kickoff, right off the restart, who Fitz picked it up. Fitz Harding, yeah. Hey, that was a hell of a pass for a back rower.
00:48:56
Speaker
for a back rower who's probably still pooping himself a little bit out there. Especially- He just signed his first senior deal. He did. He just signed his first senior deal. So that's a hell of a way to put the exclamation point on it, I guess, and say to show, yep, we belong here. Yeah. And then to get that pass off to Urine who could just finish it, that was just a
00:49:19
Speaker
Yeah, I really enjoy this reaction. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. Yeah. And you know, super fan who plays for the team, you know, yeah, you gotta love that the King, you know, and I feel bad for, for Boyd. There's, there's a lot to like about what Northampton did in this match, but they still let slip away.
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah, they're just playing the wrong teams. Yeah, really, I think I think they're the performances are much better than they were. So let's see. Let's see what they do this week against their opponent. Before we, you know, we make too much of it, because, you know, they're going from these, you know, some hard matches, you know, sale last week, Bristol this week,
00:50:05
Speaker
Bristol this week, Harla Quinn's the week before like three weeks in a row. Um, who would they have before that bath? Who's been, who's been playing pretty, pretty tough rugby. Like these are not better. Yeah. Yeah. These are not, um, easy matches that the Quinn's are, are finding themselves in. So yeah, they shouldn't feel too bad for being on the wrong side of them. Um, even this one, when they were, when they had the lead and didn't feel like they controlled the match, it was just like, if they got some penalties, um, and you know, and, and, uh,
00:50:36
Speaker
I can't remember the try that they scored to really kind of to go ahead the full seven. But, yeah, there's a try in there but I can't remember what it was. That was the first try. Yeah, yes. Oh, that's right. It was just kind of that broken play and the chip ahead.
00:50:56
Speaker
Just fell to them. Yeah. That's right. Um, but yeah, like Bristol, I still felt were, I mean, they were never really out of it, but it was just the, did they have the time? Was there enough time on the clock for them to do what they needed to do? And as it turned out, yes, there was two minutes on it. Yeah. And to give the bonus point as well. Good. Fuck. It's just.
00:51:18
Speaker
You feel like Exeter. Look at what we did to Lester. We freaking folded them up. And Bristol still are like, oh, wait, we'll come out hibernation. We'll save ourselves. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. And then up to the AJ Bell.
00:51:37
Speaker
there's a lot to just be disappointed. You know, Sanderson will be very pleased. Obviously there's a lot to be disappointed with, with this match for Declan kidney and less kiss. Well, wait, who's playing at 10 for sale? Um, they did that team. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You sit there and you feel shame. Like yeah, his team with, with Dupree did that. So
00:52:01
Speaker
Yeah, and he was not good, by the way. He was not good. He was not good. Just let's just be clear about that. Yeah, McGuigan found three tries. I don't know what to tell you about that one, man. You know, a couple, I mean, he earned all but one of them. Like one of them was kind of just like, oh, hey, look what I got. But that was it. The other two were deserved. It was effort and chase and being in the right spot at the right time.
00:52:26
Speaker
Um, the last one was just kind of a, here's your hat trick. That's the end. So yeah, sale are clawing the way back into it. Irish after being very flying, very high. This is probably a big disappointment for them. He scored Byron Mabrykin scored his last try when sale were down two men.
00:52:47
Speaker
Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. Yeah. Kick himself for sure. Prejax recap real quick. Fell to the Guiltini's. Really, really disappointing result in many ways performance. I don't think we'll see Harry Barlow at, excuse me, Harry Boyle at 10 anymore. He did not have a good day at all. He was poopy.
00:53:11
Speaker
Yeah, that was I had to come off and that was kind of the end. Yeah, that was he had to come off early. His he was strapped up to begin with. And yeah, and gutted it out after getting hurt, but only long enough to to bring, you know, to get her to warm up and get ready. Yeah, it was not not their day. No, I got to say they need. They need that. OK, so I'm not saying that the referee did a bad job.
00:53:41
Speaker
but he was a dick. And like, if you're not, you know, if you're like Wayne Barnes, you can be a bit of a dick and have a bit of an attitude. But when you're just, you know, when you're- An MLR referee. Yeah. I didn't, yeah, I thought he, I thought he mismanaged a few situations and was pretty much a dick about it, so.
00:54:10
Speaker
yeah i didn't i didn't appreciate his style so i hope i hope they don't have him for a while again same i think the only the only one of the officiating crew i didn't like the tmo and there was the um was there tmo and they go no there wasn't tmo i'm sorry i didn't like the one ar um
00:54:26
Speaker
the skinny AR. I thought he was kind of a douche too. Yeah, he seemed like the douche. The only one that I liked was the AR who didn't say much at all. The referee is like, hey, I have a question for you. Did you see something? He basically shook his head. He didn't even say a word. I was like, okay, I like him. Yeah. Less is more. Just shut the fuck up and do his job. Less is more. Less is more.
00:54:50
Speaker
Um, but yeah, that's, that's really the biggest takeaway from me other than the, you know, the free jacks. This is their first real rugby in a while. Um, obviously LA has apparently been able to play some warmup matches that the free jacks just haven't been able to do. So this was always going to be the result, unfortunately. And that's just the way it's going to be. Just how it is. Yep. Free jacks take on Houston next week at Aviva stadium. Then they'll be home after that. Yeah. All right. Let's do the stardie and the city. Um,
00:55:22
Speaker
Which of us goes first? I think I'm going first and I kind of screwed up the auto boat or whatever. I think I'm going first and we'll just all just think. Yeah, it doesn't matter really, does it? All right. Brumbies and force. Force aren't the pushovers that they used to be anymore, that they used to be, but still surrender plenty of fancy points for the Brumbies. Eres Simoni, not done well recently, not scoring well, but force are the worst against midfield. So that's a thumbs up for him.
Fantasy Rugby Advice and Insights
00:55:47
Speaker
And then I have a wild idea. Isaac finds, he's on the bench, but Forester very soft against outside backs. He's listed as a halfback. I suspect he'll come on there.
00:55:58
Speaker
I suspect I'll come on an outside back, even though he's lifted as a halfback. And if you're in a pinch for halfback, this could actually end well. That applies to me. And I have done that already. This is my starting halfback for this week. There you go. On the other side of it, Jerome Brown, not squared well, and Forcer actually pretty decent against loose forwards. So I would go ahead and pine him. Loose forward is the one position that I definitely have a decent amount out there. So there's depth.
00:56:25
Speaker
Yeah, Brumbies are a biatch to play against. And at this point, the points it gets actually mean something. There's some viability to them because we've all played three or four matches. There's enough of a sample in any of the cases. They're number one in points against. So that's not great. Fourth front row. The Brumbies have given up a few points to it.
00:56:44
Speaker
If that's your front row, you actually might be okay. You can play him. Also, Jack McGregor is playing out of position. He's playing fullback. He's listening as a fly half. We should be able to get some meters at the very least. So I would give him a thumbs up if you're in a pinch. On the other side, another team that's doing well against those swords is the Brumby's. So, Brunner's standard. If you have him, I would go ahead and just find the pine for him.
00:57:12
Speaker
Onto Waratas versus Reds. Waratas, as always, are leaky. Reds are not far behind them, but they're strong in certain areas of the defense, such as Scrum Hef and Loose Forward, which comes into play against the Waratas, especially with Swinton and Dempsey out. Tizano is the best forward option anywhere, so he's probably going to get all the points from the forwards. So there you go. Granton Harrison probably should be a go because of the
00:57:42
Speaker
Yeah, just because of their matchup. Ram needs to show me something. I thought he was going to, you know, put on a show again this year, but he's just not doing it. And Newsom and Maddox are at the point where you kind of start him and hope for the best. You know, because you probably drafted them in a position. I think Newsom, is he enlisted as a... No, he's no B. He was no B playing midfield. That's right. Okay. But he's actually playing on the wing, so he might be, you know, more at home.
00:58:12
Speaker
For the Reds, the Taz are the worst in the league against Locks, so Salah Kailoto is actually a good option. I don't really tell you to start Locks very often, but Salah Kota this week, yeah, go for it. Find the good ones. Yeah, all loose forward, same thing. So Scott Young, McRite, and Uru, and the entire Reds back line from McDermott to Campbell. Hold off on the Reds front row, though, because the Taz are actually strong against them.
00:58:37
Speaker
Yeah, amazing, right? They have a spot that they don't suck. Yeah, it's the front row. Well, okay. Yeah, whatever. All right. Chiefs versus Blues. Blues will be hurting after last week. Blues are Chiefs in the middle of the pack. Excuse me. Yeah. And they're middle of the pack for points against for Super Rugby right now. So for the Chiefs, Chiefs front row, Takiyahu has been a beast for them and Blues aren't actually that great against front row. So you can go ahead and play them with confidence.
00:59:06
Speaker
Yep, not bad. Gatlin and Trask, either, whichever one starts at 10, I'm sure we'll find out in about like four hours, which one's starting at 10. Blues aren't super strong against fly-haps, so feel free to consider either one of them if you're in a wee bit of a bind. On the other side of it, Mitchell Brown, definitely the worst scorer in the back room for the Chiefs, and the Blues are strong against loose forwards. So I would go ahead and have him go right there.
00:59:31
Speaker
as much as the chief's tails will be up after last week, you might expect this fact. Bottom of the FRD, super rugby at an average points against.
00:59:42
Speaker
Again, like Ben said, we don't recommend locks very often, but Chiefs are second to last against the locks. So I would go ahead and give him a thumbs up since he's one of the really good ones out there. It's really good. Finlay Christe was pumping him up before. He's definitely the best halfback. Came off the bench last week. I bet he starts and Chiefs are the worst halfbacks. So go ahead and give him a thumbs up. Yeah, on the other side of it.
01:00:06
Speaker
Any seven that's not dealt on properly eat, I would just have a pine. He's the only one that's done well that's played seven for them in terms of priority. So that's the one I'd go and have him find a seat. The Highlanders versus the Hurricanes. Canes are leaky kind of everywhere, and so are the Highlanders. This could be fun. Yeah, this one should be the score full.
01:00:33
Speaker
for the Highlanders, their front row, Shannon Frizzell, Smith, Hunt, Nurekki. Nurekki. Nurekki. Nureking ball. Tomkinson and Ioani. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All yeses. For the Kanes, their front row, Karifi, Sevilla. The Highlanders are tough against fly-haves, so, you know, Ledger,
01:00:54
Speaker
Don't expect a repeat. Well, no, I don't know if he scored terribly well this week, but. You didn't score great, but I have to play him anyway. Rayasi, Lomape, Proctor, Houston Barrett. Yes, just get him going. Yeah, go ahead. I like him. And to that point, I'm going to roll right into the start of the week. And my start of the week will be Nanae Lomape. Nanae. Because that's a tasty matchup. I love that dude. And he's a tasty player.
01:01:24
Speaker
Talk about an auto start right there. Right. Yeah. In case you were thinking about sitting him, don't. Yeah. Right. God, if you were that dumb, please don't. Kind of advice you have to come to us for. Yeah. Yikes. If you're here, then I guess you're here for a reason. Good job. You found the right spot.
01:01:44
Speaker
Oh, all right. So my of the weeks have a theme for super rugby. Um, I really liked this guy since he's burst onto the scene about four years ago, he and his brother, um, he's a special player and moved to 13 for him was, has worked out quite well for him and his club. I see a big week for him in this spot. So my start of the week for around six of super rugby is blues and all blacksmith fielder Rico. You want to know
01:02:11
Speaker
No, thank you. The beer store is closed. My sit of the week was someone else that I mentioned as I got to see it. So this is me doing as I do, throwing the gauntlet down. And so now watch for him to have the best week ever. James Ram of the watch. Yeah, I have to play him because I have nobody else.
01:02:34
Speaker
I'm fucked. Yeah. I mean, he'll get you like a couple of points. He's just not going to get you what you need to win. Yeah. I mean, unless you don't need much, but like you can't be, we'll see. Yeah. I've seen some bad scores out there lately. All right. Um, this guy's had a tough, had this guy had a tough round one. Not that I could watch, but he's back now playing the same opponents as, as I believe, um, um,
01:02:58
Speaker
Either way, his opponents aren't giving much at his position. And I don't like 12 as a score in the first place. So my city league for round six for super rugby is war toss center Isaiah Perez. All right. Same team as yours. All right. Um, yeah, I know. Sorry. Sorry. War toes. All
Logistics and Upcoming Matches
01:03:18
Speaker
right. We have the prime Gloucester Exeter on Friday night and we'll actually be able to watch this time. Actually I'll probably, I think I'm going to be in the car, but that's different story for a different day. Um,
01:03:28
Speaker
Things are still tough out. They've had some gaps exposed in recent leaks, so there could be something for Gloucester for the for the cherry and white. Varnie should be back. Exeter surrender points to scrum house, especially the type like him. We saw a vampire fleet last week. Go for it. If he's in, play him. Rapava Ruskin returned last week and banged off the rust. Exeter surrender points for props. So he's a he's the winner there for Gloucester.
01:03:56
Speaker
On the other side, another returner, LRZ, LRZ on the other side, everyone's going to want him in their team. Hold off one week. This is the wrong team to do it against. And then if you have to play them in FRD, but good God, I hope not. They're mean to outside backs. Ackerman or Morgan, either one, whoever's playing eight, this is also not the week to get funny with them. Exeter eats for breakfast.
01:04:26
Speaker
Um, so Gloucester now bottom four on average in both formats, getting Tom plus week did not help that at all. So for Exeter, uh, LCD, uh, he returned and should go right into your lineup. No problem. And then Ollie DeVoto Gloucester are very weak against the midfield. He's the best one of the bunch. So that's, that's a thumbs up on him. I considered him for my start of the week.
01:04:48
Speaker
There you go. Um, Dave, yours on the other side, Gloucester are actually pretty tough against flakers and he's not the best option. He's actually 5% known, believe it or not as well. I'm surprised he's that high. Um, and Yanis Kirsten, I said a lot, I said it last week and I'll say it again, get, stop adding them to your team guys. Um, he's been playing as a second row and that's actually a spot Gloucester are kind of tough again. So I wouldn't play him there either.
01:05:14
Speaker
On to obscure match. I don't know if anybody's really going to watch it. I don't know if it's going to be any interesting Bristol versus Harlequins. Yeah, but the boys are back. So, you know, some first, there's some internationals like, you know, like LRZ might get a week off maybe just to give you a rest, especially if they're playing against Exeter.
01:05:40
Speaker
Ben Earl and Callum Sheedy, who were, you know, mostly, you know, 20 minute players at most, they're going to get right thrown right back out there because they're ready to go. And they've been showing form when they've played. So there's also whispers, the semi-Rodrodra's return. That mic damage peers. I know.
01:06:06
Speaker
That might damage Piers O'Connor stock, maybe, depends on where he plays and how they organize their back line. But so just bear that in mind if you're a Piers O'Connor owner like I am, this may not be the best thing for him, although it could be good too. On the other side, the Harlequins. What did you need to see? Yeah, what more do you need to see? Danny Kerr, Marcus Smith,
01:06:36
Speaker
But you know, Bristol are extremely strong against midfielders and the back three, so. I this is not the same week that the Queens will have no again this week. No, no, no, no, they'll probably still get it. You know, I'm sure they'll get a try or two through their back line. It's just I do you want to trust it? You know you're going to play that. That's a gamble as to where it is. Yeah, you should go. Go for it if you want,
01:07:04
Speaker
You know, you could crap out really easily. The odds are not in your favor there. Agreed. All right. Lemon Irish and Bath. Bath are still bleeding points despite their good form. Bottom and bottom. Bottom in both formats. Should make for a good fancy match up to watch just the same. For the Exile, Steve Moffy. Been loving him.
01:07:26
Speaker
Bath or second, second to last and second rows. This is a good play from a guy, you know, for a guy that's not necessarily in everybody's team. So that's a good one right there. Loader Ollie Hassell Collins, Bath or last against wings. Away you go. Have that. Have lunch. Certainly OHC. Yeah. Gus Creeby is fine, but any other hooker this week, I bench Bath or actually third best against hookers. So just consider that.
01:07:53
Speaker
Brophy clues. Twelves are tough for scoring and Bathard are actually strong against the midfield. FRD is an option for him if you need to. And additional notes. Kopi Kepu is still 4% owned in TRM. He's 3.11 back in your bank. Ditch him. He's not coming back. The exiles are 8 and 9 in TRM and FRD points against on average. So there's going to be some points to be had here too.
01:08:17
Speaker
I've been seeing his praises. Tom DeGlanville, he's every part the starting fullback and London Irish are not good against the back three. So go ahead and give him a go. Expect a big day for Zach Mercer as if it's not a new thing, but London Irish are last against the heats. So I was planning on, um, even when I first signed him ditching Mercer for Ben Earl.
01:08:40
Speaker
That plan has changed. Yeah, this week might want to hold off on that plan. Keeping Mercer and then they'll find another thing to do get to get better all night. Yeah, they go on the other side of the coin for for bath. Joe Koka. I don't love him. Hasn't scored in forever. Not scoring well either. He's playing. I don't I wouldn't trust him at this point. And then another guy. I love him as a player. Hate him as a scoring this year. Ben Spencer drop him.
01:09:08
Speaker
It's time to drop them. Sorry. I'm trying to drop them over to Worcester, Northampton, uh, saints, you know, as I've, we're saying earlier, they've been showing intent. They've just been going up against a.
01:09:22
Speaker
a really like a murderer's row of teams and just the shit end of the season. But again, the heroes are coming back a little bit. So maybe we'll get to see it to Kelly Naravora sighting this week. It would be preferable. I would like to see him.
01:09:42
Speaker
Not that they don't have guys who can do it now, but this, again, the options would be there, especially against Worcester. So the Mattavacie and the Saints' front row are full go. Tamana Harrison, yup. Don't know who the Locks.
01:09:58
Speaker
will be, but they should be an option too. I'm just not going to mention my name. Freeman, when Ezekiel's try was pretty sweet this past week. Yeah. Love it. Love that dude. Love to see that and love to see him running in space. That's not something we've gotten to see very often. Anyway, back to the Saints back line. Their actual back line. Freeman Hutchinson should score well. Furbank, if he's at 15 now, I think
01:10:26
Speaker
This might be an option. Now it's like, yeah, it's one of those, I was waiting to see it. Now I'm actually, I saw something worthwhile this past week. So maybe he's woken up. Maybe he's got a little spark in his step. On the other side, because the Saints are still not, you know, while the Saints should run away with a scoreboard, they're still going to give up fantasy points because that's what they do. And Francois Huguard will take them, as will Ted Hill, Mac of Essex. I think we'd see some Tom Howe,
01:10:55
Speaker
Nice. I like him. I like him every time I see him, and I'm not sure why he's not getting as many looks. Billy Searle should be back now, and I'm guessing Ollie Lawrence just goes right back in the lineup. Right in there, yeah. Because again, one of those guys who what he had like two games and maybe two carries between them almost. So like, no, we got him out there.
01:11:18
Speaker
Yep, absolutely. I agree. All right. Lester in Newcastle. Falcons are weak to middling in TRM and FRD on average. You gave me Lester in Newcastle. Did I? Yes, you did. Oh, I'm an idiot. Well, you. Oh, yeah, you know what? I skipped over. I'm an idiot.
01:11:38
Speaker
Uh, I can, I can do this in two seconds then. No, I'll go. I'll, I'll, I'm going to do wasp sale on the fly because wasp sale is fucking easy because wasps that they've been sucking recently. Um, and they're playing against sale who are one of the toughest defenses to play against fantasy wise. So, you know, you're Jacob Umaga is still going to be on the bench. Jimmy got birth. You're still going to pine him. Yeah. You're Alfie Barbary. You're going to fucking play him in the wasps front row.
01:12:07
Speaker
Um, launch priorities and no go because he doesn't score points. Um, and Brad shields your six and Thomas young, your seven. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not really seeing that. Not certainly not against sale on the sale side. Um, it's Dan Dupree a back. I think he, you know, he's already been, he's been back. Um, he's been back. He's got a, he's got a bit of a break. Um, but yeah, I, I expect to see him, um, should score. Well, uh, Lou Diagar.
01:12:32
Speaker
And if AJ is the 10, yeah, play him. And then don't worry about really the sale outside backs, basically anything outside of AJ because
01:12:42
Speaker
they're going to, you know, outside of this past weekend. Um, yeah, this weekend was a, was a, was a, uh, once in a blue moon. Yeah. You're not going to rely on the Sam James's, um, Sam Hills. No, no. And Byron McGuigan. Yeah. The great, he had a hat trick. That's like going to be his, that's his, his, you know, only time he scores a try this season pretty much. Um, so, and yard has kind of, you know,
01:13:08
Speaker
He, he's plateaued. He hasn't, he hasn't built any momentum. So, you know, nevermind that he should not even be on your watch list. He's not, he's not, he's missed a lot of time. It's not helped him.
01:13:19
Speaker
Right. So boom, there you go. There's one sale. Yeah, well done. Um, let's start, let's start in Newcastle. Falcons are weak to middling in TRM and FRD on average. Um, so to the Tigers, Leibenberg, whether he's at Flanker or eight Newcastle are soft against the back row overall. So that's a thumbs up. Speaking of Jasper should be back. That's another one that goes right into your lineup. No problem. No problem. I feel good about it as well.
01:13:45
Speaker
on the flip side of it. Moroni like him as a player, but not getting it done. And Newcastle strong against the midfield. So that's a thumbs down in that case at the halfback position. Young's or Wiggles are no options this week. Newcastle are decent against halfback. So I would consider other options than portly to only want to like that. And that's why because of what he does, that's a different story for a different day.
01:14:07
Speaker
Well, it's weird. Yeah. And Tafua is still 4% owned as well. Like another one that's like way too highly owned for a guy that's not coming back. That's another two 16 that goes back in your bank. I bet you have one of you people out there has both those people that have mentioned that are still owned. That's 500 odd back in your bank. Ditch them and go get yourself somebody better. That's actually playing.
01:14:28
Speaker
Lester are now middle of the pack in either format. Some places to avoid and others to exploit. Let's have a look. Falcons for the Falcons. Joel Hodgson, definitely the best kicker they have and probably a good option this week in TRM, definitely an FRD. Lago could be a good week for him as well. Lester a week against props. Davidson's also a cheaper option if that's the way you want to go. Especially if you're looking for props on the cheap because that happens sometimes when your props aren't playing.
01:14:57
Speaker
Um, could be a tough week for Ben Stevenson. Lester are strong against wings. So play him an FRD because he's a midfielder. But other than that, I would, um, I strongly consider finding him and another guy I love, but I got to put a pine on the sticker on him today. And that's Greg Peterson, not in good form in the last couple of weeks unless there are not nice to second rows. So I'd find the Eagle. Yeah. Yeah. Not helpful at all. Nope.
01:15:23
Speaker
Um, it's funny, my sin of the week is going to be from them. The match I just, uh, um, you did ad libbed. So we'll get to that in a second. Um, um, yeah. So, uh, start of the week, um, you had him, I don't think you mentioned him exactly by name, but, uh, if it's, I'm looking at that matchup between, um,
01:15:48
Speaker
It was Exeter and Gloucester and thinking that's just looking tasty for Exeter. You know, I'm not sure who Gloucester are going to get back this week. That's going to change much of their fortunes.
01:16:00
Speaker
Certainly not to the extent that they're playing a much better opponent, too. Right. And Exeter are, as I've said, they are out for blood because they need every point they can get. So I kind of flipped the coin on this because I'm not going to tell you fucking Sam Simmons because that doesn't help anybody. You're sorry.
01:16:21
Speaker
So that's why it's not Sam Simmons, but it's Tom O'Flaherty because he's been on fire himself. I almost ditched him too. I almost ditched him too. Yeah, I was considering it. No, he's got fire and he's got to be in your lineup this week. Yep. Good one. So my of the weeks has a theme as well.
01:16:47
Speaker
My start of the week, he's had a tough start to the year, but started to come on strong. You went against some of the tougher opposition, and this might be a field day for him where we see the him of old. My start of the week for around 15 to the Prem is London Irish's flying winger, Ollie Hassell Collins. He was on my short list. Yes, I strongly considered him as well. So that's a good week for him. I will very much agree with that. That's that start of the week. My sit of the week sits.
01:17:16
Speaker
I've been down on him for a little bit. He scored, actually came reasonably good this past week. So that was a bit of a shock I had said to start the other winger instead of him. And he turned around, did he score a try?
01:17:31
Speaker
No, he didn't, but he actually had a pretty, he just had himself a pretty good day. I don't think he's going to score well against this opponent because it's sale and they're just bastards. So Zach Kiberige, not the week to start him. Well, we did it again. We got all the way to this one without matching and here we are. Yeah. Same thing. Having a tough year.
01:17:58
Speaker
He's got help coming. I'm not sure it's going to help him because of the opposition that much. But yeah, my sister of the week is their flyer, Zach Kaburri.
TRM and FRD Rankings
01:18:08
Speaker
Yuck. Sorry, buddy. Yeah, it's not. And now he's going to score 60, so go captain him. Right. Although, yeah, this is our first time doing sits, so... Yeah, we'll see. Maybe. Maybe we're on point or maybe we're way off. Yeah.
01:18:24
Speaker
All right. Um, first, let's just talk about champion league real quick. Anton, congratulations, buddy. Number one in freaking six nations overall, let alone in our league. Right. Oh, uh, well done. Well done to the top 10. Yeah. We had three of the top 10 Justin and Duncan also finished in the top 10 overall. So, um, yeah, champion league, there's no place to hide whatsoever. Um, Anton also also leads our, uh, prem as well in the TRM.
01:18:51
Speaker
I'm gonna catch him though. For now, let's put it that way. Yeah, I made a move this week too. I jumped George. George did not have a good week. He had like 300 points in TRM for Prem. Not good. Prem, FRD, George beat Mark, Justin beat Ben. I was able to topple Anton. That would be the Luke Northmore effect right there.
01:19:23
Speaker
And Duncan beat Carrick. Duncan's coming alive. George did too. The last time we went over this, George was not doing well and now he has kind of climbed out of it. Over to Super FRD.
01:19:38
Speaker
Duncan B. Carrick, George B. Anton, I was able to just edge out Mark. And then same thing for Justin. Justin just edged out Ben. So that will be interesting this week. We got... It's rough going up against Justin in two weeks. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And Justin's kind of good at it. So we have four weeks left of the regular season in FRD prem. So get your shit in now. I think I play you in the USA league.
01:20:06
Speaker
Oh, nice. This week. Nice. Maybe you can win the dollar, dollar, dollar, dollar. Yeah. I know. I lost one fucking goddamn fucking Luke Jacobson. Fuck you. Ficky and ficky head. Okay. Let's do some pecking. I'm going to get the fuck out. Okay. That all thing. And we'll include the six nations for Friday night as well. I'm super ugly. Highlanders and hurricanes. Highlanders. I hope we can pull it off, but I don't think it's happening. Um, Brumby's force. Brumby's.
01:20:36
Speaker
Rhombes. Sorry, Forest. I like what you're doing. Just not here. Chiefs Blues. Blues. Blues. Yep. And Wartos Reds. Reds? Yeah. Reds. Okay. Easy pickings there. Gloucester Exeter. Exeter. Yeah. Bristol Quins.
01:20:56
Speaker
Oh, Bristol are at home. Yeah, I'm going to take Bristol at home. That's the only thing that's really edging me. But I think the defense is better. Yeah, I'm looking forward to this match. That's going to be amazing. And they're adding more, right? I mean, they're just from like the team as well as they've been playing. You had Ben Earl to that mix. You had Callum Sheedy to that mix. She's been playing all right. But but that. Yeah, she's way better. She might be the second of all the third best ten and
01:21:25
Speaker
in the, uh, in, in, in the UK, let's put it that way. Yeah, it might be. And it's just that one of the two is playing ahead of them. Yeah. Right. The other two. So, uh, yeah, you're, you're adding an, it's certainly an international quality seven and 10 to that mix and Harlequins. Should be good. Are maintaining pretty much. Should be fun. Marsha will be back for them. Um,
01:21:50
Speaker
Oh, and Rod Roger, though, for the bears, too. Yeah, that's kind of a problem. Oh, and another one. And another one. One in Irish and Bath, one in Irish at home. I'm going to take Irish. They're actually tough at home. So I'm going to take the Irish. I'm believing in Bath.
01:22:09
Speaker
Oh, I am too. But the only team that's beaten a little Irish at home, and this includes a trip from Bristol with sale. So I'm going to, I'm going to give, I'm going to give the exiles the nod and hope I can make some ground up here. Worcester and North Hampton. Saints. Yeah. Saints. So one of the saints. Um, and then was sale of sale. I hate, I hate, not, I hate picking sale when they're poopy, but
01:22:40
Speaker
their rugby's ugly wasps. Yeah. I think that they're going to, yeah, it's going to be a fucking shit house of a mesh.
01:22:49
Speaker
No, yeah, I'm going to get it. Fuck it. I said, I took my hand off the piece. I started justifying it. So yeah, I'll fuck it. Oops. Yeah. But that's why I picked them because it's going to be one of those shitty who the fuck knows. Yeah, it might be. So I'm going to go with them because I don't like sale very much. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. I hope they win more than I think they will. Yeah. Lesser Newcastle.
01:23:20
Speaker
Um, I think it depends if who's, who's playing for Lester. Um, if it's, if it's Jack van Portvally and Zach Henry, I think they, they cruise. Um, if it's pretty much any other nine, 10, I just don't know. Um, yeah. But again, it's Newcastle and they're, they're just. Pooping and Lester did show up Lester and I get, um, we sit back and we, we land on Lester.
01:23:51
Speaker
All right, France and Scotland for all the marbles. I think France. Well, it's not who wins the Six Nations, it's who wins the match. I say, I say, I say, I say, I
01:24:08
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think France won it too. Yeah. I think this is a show though. I think this is a great match. So it's going to be box office. Certainly. It's going to be because it's going to be like, what, what, what do, what did Scotland have to play for except kind of the fuck over Wales, but they also want to win. Like they want to win. So it's like, yeah, they're not going to, yeah, they're not going to hog. Doesn't strike me as the type to back down. Yeah. And.
01:24:34
Speaker
Yeah, I think they're just going to open it up, which is odd. I'm saying that about Scotland, right? But I would like to see them open it up a little bit because I think France will allow that. I think they'll want it to be a little bit open and I want to see how Scotland respond. I think because I think if Scotland played are forced into that kind of match so that Townsend can't like force them out of it by will.
01:24:59
Speaker
I think they'll do well. I think they'll, I mean, they have, you know, some of the best playmakers out there. You know, the only reason I would take into Mac as a 10 is because I would know that I could put him in the system that he'd play well. And whereas Finn, it's like this, you'd have to play this, but this is his kind of match, right? Like the balance. He's playing with all, he's playing against some of his friends. Yeah. It almost goes, um,
01:25:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's, it's almost like it was in his favor as a 10. Cause it's like, if it's going to, if it's going to get crazy, it's like, you see, um, say, Gail Fiki was going to join him at Rosslyn next year.
01:25:38
Speaker
It's kind of weird because Gail Ficke has been like Mr. Stuff for a while. Yeah. So to see him play for Ross will be very interesting. Yeah. Well, but yeah, I'm looking forward to this match. So box office, but I should be good stuff. They have, they have some magic in them that they've shown. So I think that that's enough to tilt the, you know, a pretty fairly level talent. You know, one to 15, you know, from, from each team, it's fairly level. So.
01:26:08
Speaker
I will, I shall enjoy. Yeah. Okay. All right. Hey, we didn't do a crazy one this time.
01:26:18
Speaker
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