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Episode 028 - News & Content
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This week, we talk about a ton of stuff including:
- Work, decks, bees, bears, birthdays
- SDCC news
- Skeleton Crew
- The Boys Season 4
- Deadpool & Wolverine
- and more!
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Transcript
Introduction and Work Stress
00:00:01
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Hello and welcome to episode number 28 of Just Shillin. I am one of your hosts, Sean Hoffman. And I am your other host, Andy Bell. How's it going, buddy? No, I asked you first. I asked you first. it's ah it's It's going well. It's going well. It's ah it's a bit of a tough week. um Lots of stuff going on at work, deadlines, deadlines, deadlines. um Meanwhile, the rest of... well i mean i
00:00:33
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I, in my job, I cover Europe, Middle East and Africa. So an awful lot of the region is currently away on leave at the moment. So deadlines, deadlines, deadlines aren't particularly helpful when the rest of the region is away on holiday. So ah yeah, it's a bit tough, a little bit stressful, but um Uh, all good with surviving. Um, and, uh, this is the, um, the pinnacle of my week where I can not think about work and just talk about some mundane trivial shite that we normally do, uh, with my buddy. You hear that everybody? I am the pinnacle of Andy's week. Not you guys, me, I am. It's me right here. Everybody else is second place besides Lucy, of course.
00:01:21
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and your children. Oh, I don't know.
00:01:28
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Don't beat yourself up. So, my friend, what have you been up to the last week?
Outdoor Projects and Renovations
00:01:35
Speaker
Well, first of all, I need to start off with an apology. know i gotta I'm going to be proactive with an apology here um because I know that you have I believe I could be wrong. I hope I'm not wrong. I believe you have a ah very a very special date coming up ah pretty soon. Yeah, something else, you know, yeah like a like a birthday or something that's coming up in your I have to apologize because your gifts aren't going to be there on your birthday.
00:02:06
Speaker
Oh dude, you didn't i didn't I didn't expect anything, but yes, it's my birthday on Friday. ah The girls are coming back. It's your 28th birthday. Happy 20th birthday. it's mutton owner No, no, no, I wish I could say it was, but yeah, this year I'm turning 40, which is really depressing. Really, really depressing. Over the hill. You're right there. Yes, and if anyone could do the math, yes, I did have my eldest daughter when I was 14. um
00:02:36
Speaker
But no, i'm ah you know it's yeah it's it's not a big birthday this year, but it's my birthday on Friday and we're going to try and take some time out as a family. and Oh, I'll tell you about that later. But no, and no, no problem. met Man, you didn't you didn't have to in any way have to. I'm excited to share with you what they are bre or I could just or go just wait until they get there. So, you know, let's wait. um I like surprises. I really like surprises. I really did. Other um other than that, other than that, I've been. ah You know.
00:03:10
Speaker
I Turbo Turbo was talking to me about decks. So I figured I should give a deck update um how with the the railing and stuff is almost done. I'm waiting for a couple of things like this is deck watch with show just And then but I have loved it, dude. It's so like I'm not done, but I like a couple of days over the last week, I've just spent outside ah on like working outside on like this like so you know the end of like Mando season the one season three I think we're like Mando and Grogu are like sitting outside the hut
00:03:51
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And there's like a chair, he's like sitting in a chair. They sell those chairs at a store called like a big box store called Costco here. oh We actually already had them. And so I sit out there in my Mando chair on my half finished deck, and just work and it's like, dude, I love it. I love every minute of it. So like this is making it worth it. So I've been I've been doing that. um Yeah, other than Other than that, just still hosting hikers every once in a while um and working on deck and watch some things. But we'll talk about that in a little bit. Other than that, I don't think there's a whole lot else going on. Yeah. Well, my deck update is that um ah we've got some, I think you already know, we've got some things going on in the house. um house I'm having some some nice cupboards and
00:04:45
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wardrobes put in built into the into the house that have been like permanent, like proper, proper, proper, proper job um going on at the moment, which isn't cheap. And the guy that's doing it for me is also the guy that originally did the decking for me when we had the original changes to the house. And he took one look at them and I showed him the same patch of of of decking that I fell through ah ah the last week or the week before. And he took one look and said, should we just fuck it off and pay that i was like yes i like the way you talk my friend i know it's gonna cost me more in the meantime but charlotte save this is just it's not even worth it um so yeah we're gonna we're we're currently thinking about how we're gonna
00:05:32
Speaker
work it out, but now that we've kind of decided between us that decking was not such a great idea. And I think a lot of it is down to the quality of that will be kicked. It's accessible in the UK. It's meant to be Norwegian, like Norwegian stuff. Um, but it's not great. It has not been great and it hasn't weathered at all, despite me oiling it every year. God, listen to us. to nothing finer than two gentlemen talking about oiling decking. Anyway, ah yeah, despite that, it's like it's it's not even worth it. So we're just working out some plans. But the good news is I don't have to worry about it until next year. there's There's bigger fish to fry in the house at the moment. So I'll worry about that later.
80s Night and Axe Throwing
00:06:14
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But outside of my decking news, which is were pretty limited, um yeah, I went to an 80s night at the weekend. it was um
00:06:25
Speaker
It was something that Lucy, uh, wanted to do with our friends, her friends, our friends and, um, her friends. And, um, it was, um, it was an eighties night and basically what it was, was there's, um, a very large kind of event, outdoor event, um, set up. close to us, close to us, about 10, 20 miles away. And it's used for particular events and they have, you know, they have dance nights, they have um um bands playing there. Anyway, this happened to be a DJ night. but The DJ was a guy called Martin Kemp. Now, I'm not expected to know who Martin Kemp was, but he was the bass player of a band in the 80s called Spandau Ballet.
00:07:14
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who made a bit of a name for himself after the band broke up in the UK, in in in u k soap opera in a UK soap opera called EastEnders. Anyway, the point being, he's a nice enough guy, um and he's put his hand now to DJing. And when I mean he's put his hand to DJing, because he's from an 80s band, he'll charge a venue, 20 or 30 grand, to turn up, to look cool, to look handsome, and spin a few decks with old 80s music, which of course was right up Lucy's alley and she enjoyed every minute of it. I didn't have so much fun. But what I did do um while we were there was I discovered axe throwing. I don't know if you've ever tried axe throwing before. um And I know I'm quite long on the tooth, but it's something that I i knew existed.
00:08:12
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But good God, it's so much fun. It is so much fun. Axe throwing. i've never I never thought something so relatively simple and primitive should be could be such a laugh. i mean
00:08:27
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probably the wrong activity to do when you've had a few drinks. But goodness me, what good fun. And I think, honestly, it's probably the most favorite little activity I've discovered in the last couple of years. It's brilliant. And I will be going back. I will be going back, well, not there, but to another axe throwing venue soon. Because it's such a good life. You've got to diversify, try a different place, see if they've got a little bit different experience. So is it, is it um I'm assuming it's the same as you guys whereby you've got basically a range, a target range that's been set up with a bunch of very, very large targets. So you just literally throw axes at them and there doesn't seem to be much regulation. Talking to Turbo, he seems to, he was telling telling me that they need to do breath tests and the rest of it, um certainly over and in Oz. So a little bit more, should we say,
00:09:26
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um sensitive or or careful when it comes down to liability. i mean But yeah, well, they're not they're not doing they're not doing breathalyzer tests or anything here, at least not any ones that I've been to. It's it's more of a sign the waiver. And if you're they're not going to let you do it if you're like stumbling ashtrunk. But if you've had some trips, because they're always in touristy areas. So like they they expect everybody to have at least a couple. But it's ah it's a pretty heavy waiver that you sign. um And then they're also watching people. like There is a a no messing around kind of atmosphere and policy about it. like don don't don't be in the lane Don't be in the lanes. Don't be farting with people, stuff like that. But no, it's it's it's other than that, it's still pretty loose, at least of the ones that I've been to.
00:10:16
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Sweet, okay. Just don't kill yourself, and if you do kill yeah if you do kill yourself, you've already signed a waiver to say it's not our fault. Yeah. Pretty much. Go bleed outside. um yeah Speaking of DJs, I had a question
Pop Culture and Podcast Mentions
00:10:30
Speaker
for you. um I don't know if you've listened to the latest episode of the Sack Off Show, or Katie Sack Off Show, whatever the hell it's called, where she talks with, speaks with them the dude from the Mandalorian, what is his name? No, no i haven't I haven't listened yet. Well, it's the the guy who's in the Mandalorian who's in like four episodes. He's one of the other mandos. He's kind of kind of grumpy and then they get like he doesn't want to follow her and then he does the thing at the end. I don't know. You'll listen to it. But apparently he used to be a DJ in like back in the back in the day and like the 90s in the UK, apparently was pretty pretty popular. He used to travel when he was like pretty young and I was like, Oh, I wonder if Andy knew knew who.
00:11:14
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who he was, but, uh, but yeah, maybe, maybe when you, he's, he's the one that was with cost. I believe so. I could be wrong, but I believe that I, I believe that's who, who he was for my. Okay.
00:11:33
Speaker
We don't recognize him. But then again, back in my day, I probably wouldn't have recognized many things. So I'll have a quick look. But yeah, apart from that, man, it's all been work. Like I said, a nice weekend. Wasn't particularly up for the event itself, but ended up becoming a good evening with this new little fun little activity that I've found for myself going forward. The only other thing I wanted to say was a little bit of clarification. I'm not sure if it's needed or not, but a little bit of clarification on last week. um ah And um it's not a problem, isn't isn't it's no big deal at all. But I was talking a little bit last week about what I've been watching. And one of the things that I've watched was a series called Dairy Girls, which of course is
00:12:27
Speaker
you know you recall is that the the series of a bunch of schoolgirls that were or schoolgirl sorry that are brought up during the Troubles in Ireland. um And I talked about a convent, um then being um ah them attending a convent. um ah For those of you guys outside the UK, of course, they're not nuns. So a convent typically is where nuns hang out. ah But in the UK, um We also have convent schools. um So a lot of these convents, um the nuns are actually, as part as their job, they're part of their their role is to to teach children as well. And so there's an awful lot of schools that are affiliated with convents and as such, we call them convent schools. So to clarify my vocabulary there.
00:13:14
Speaker
And in fact, just to make sure that I'm not going mad, I checked the yeah the the English dictionary. um And ah for anyone that was that that was that doesn't understand the normal ramblings of this Crazy old fart. Convent school is a school in which the teachers are nuns. um It's that simple. So hopefully that will explain ah where I was coming from. And um apologize if I if I created any confusion. But apart from that, man, it was, um yeah, it was a relatively quiet. um It's been a relatively quiet week, which I'm grateful for bearing in mind how battered I am with work at the moment. Nice.
00:13:56
Speaker
It does sound like it's ah it's been a bit warm there though, right? I feel like people have been saying... Yeah, it's been it's beens it's around 90 degrees. In your flavor, it's about 90 degrees at the moment, um which is um another thing I've spoken about this before. um We're not very well prepared for it. i mean Luckily, we live in a little bit of an older house, in which case the it's got quite thick walls, in which case it's cool inside. And of course, I'm speaking to you from the garden room, ah the the up the garden office or the shed that I have built out in the garden during COVID. And it's balls hot. It's really, really hot. Not only does it look like a sauna, it feels like one at the moment. So if you do hear a little bit of whirring in the background, that is a um
00:14:41
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as big a fan as I could, I could find in our house, um, currently, uh, tickling my, my, my, my best skin with a nice cool breeze. I don't like the way you phrase that, but I'll let it slide. Um, yeah. Yeah. I can't, I can't hear the fans. So, uh, I think you're, I think, I think you're, I think you're good. You don't know where it is. Yeah. We're just, okay. We're going to go back to that. Uh, No, no, no, we're all good. We're all good. Yeah, my week's been pretty uneventful too.
Wildlife Encounters and Comic-Con Speculation
00:15:13
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I did forget to say that with my deck update that I've been, uh, you'd enjoy it. I should get, I should set up a camera because I've also been fighting some bees. Um, they might really, they, they really want to get in the house. They really want to like.
00:15:27
Speaker
They love our old wood siding and they're like, let me in there. I want to make something in it. I want to eat your wood siding and our pest people don't come out for another week or two. So it's been like me and the bees like I'm working on deck fighting the bees. um And it but but in case you didn't know, California is usually pretty strict about the type of pesticides, agricultural products, things you can buy. And plus, you know, carpenter bees aren't Like they're they're not a necessarily a really bad thing, um unless they're personally and inside your own home. um yeah So they like they don't actively like really want you to you know just wipe them all out with really bad chemicals. So it's hard to get good chemicals here. And and and so i'm just it's really kind of ah this back and forth with me and the bees and the neighbors all driving by, watching me with a broom. and
00:16:25
Speaker
yes It's a good old time. ill have to yeah You've also had an encounter with a larger creature as well. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, sure. I can talk about that. Because I think I messaged you right after it happened. yeah So when I'm outside doing stuff, I usually have these big dumb these big dumb headphones on what that are like noise canceling. So I can't hear. I can't hear a freaking thing. I couldn't hear a dumb truck about to run me over. um And so it was early in the morning. I happened to go outside and I was, I think I was moving some boards around that I was going to be like, uh, like planning down and stuff like that. And I happened at my back turn back turned and I, like you know, when you get that like feeling like something's like, like something's watching you or you're just like, I don't know, something's off. So you just kind of like, what you turn around. So I had that happened to me.
00:17:17
Speaker
And I turned around and I was maybe 10 feet away from like a mama bear, um trying to sniff it around my my big metal bear bin where we keep our trash cans out by the road. And she's just sniffing. And I i kind of i kind of screamed, like a kind of like really loud screamed. Still a lot I could hear him through my own headphones. and i was Because I'm not normally afraid of these bears. like they're not They're not grizzly bears, to be clear. They're not like Leonardo DiCaprio and the Revenant, like, oh, they're going to knock me around and drag. It's like a hole whole thing. They're not those. They're like smaller black bears and they're usually pretty skittish. um That is not the case. You've sent me films before of of you and you you and your neighbors exchanging
00:18:08
Speaker
you know, having a conversation across the road while these bears are kind of hanging out with you guys. So I guess they're not. They're not that they're not. A concern for you guys. yeah Yeah, you really you really don't want them to get your trash, and not because like they're going to get you, but like I just it's there's nothing like there's no worse feeling than like your own trash being strewn across the neighborhood. So you're like. i I already put it in the trash bag. I really don't want to go pick it back up again and put it back in a trash bag, especially if it's in like a neighbor's yard. um Yeah, so they're pretty transient. They'll wander around. But no, I was too close. But I am afraid of the moms um because they do not like you ah being anywhere close to their cubs. And the cubs are absolutely stupid. They are the dumbest. They are so dumb.
00:19:02
Speaker
um Like because they are just like people stuff. Let's go in your garage. Let's let's climb your let's get on. Let's go. I think that one video I sent you that one day like one of the Cubs like went up to my neighbor who was staying outside and it's like, yeah, kind of watch him in the cub just went like right up to him was like sniffing him. It's like dude, you got it. You need to go you need to go yeah away from where you are. Because I think a lot of people don't realize about bears. They are very fast. ah They are very good climbers like not like a like kind of it's kind of funny like seeing them like, Oh, you just scale like an eight foot fence and like a second and they're gone and they are. Oh, they are so they are very fast. ah So I was I was very scared. comem Like I don't because as soon as you see the mom and you can kind of tell when their moms
00:19:46
Speaker
ah You're like, oh, shit, where are the kids? Like, where are the babies? Are they are they at my feet? Are they am I in between them? What is happening? And I'm and I'm too far away from the door. So you just kind of like yell and then go shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle in the house. And then you go up on the deck back to the deck, you go up on the deck and then you take video from up above, um which they can still get up there if they want to. But I at least have a ah couple of seconds to get away. But yeah, you fix and you fix and you fix decking so you don't fall through it because that would that would not be a good ending. You know, that would not be a good conclusion to this whole thing. It's like, damn it, if only I'd fix the decking. It's like a shark pit like you'd fall through the hole and like, ah, now you're down there with the bears. Haha, idiot. Yeah, that's so now there's no holes in it. Yeah, that that scared the that scared the crap out of me because I was surprised, man. Yeah. But the babies weren't close. They were across the street eating the neighbors like
00:20:45
Speaker
bush uh the same neighbor who got sniffed by one i don't like you need to get rid of those bushes or unless you like the bears in your bushes then anyways that's a bear that's a bear talk we've had the deck update we've had the bear update we've had the bees i'll update you next week on the bees um it's it's a i'm making it sound more wild than it really is it's really just my old house like just being real a really easy target for just a lot Listen, it's it's it's exciting. the but The biggest excitement I've had this week is trying to slip in the word anonymity in every single conversation I've had at work to try and practice. And that I can actually pronounce the word correctly in the future. So um in relative, you know, in relative terms, if we're talking about excitement, you win. You win this week, my friend.
00:21:36
Speaker
Okay, so news. what What about what about news this week? Obviously, we had San Diego Comic Con. And I must admit, I did speak to I'll talk about it later on about what I've been watching, watching, listening and reading to but I did um spend some time with the Star Wars spelt out crew this morning, which was really good because I needed that break. I really did that break at the work at that moment in time when Josh said, Hey, are you in your lunch break? Do you want to want join us? I'm like, yes, man, I do. I need to talk about anything else but work at this moment. um And so it was good talking to them. And I didn't perhaps realize, and perhaps I misinterpreted some of the stuff being talked about in our Discord from Brit in particular, I didn't realize there was very, very little Star Wars news. I mean, there is a little there are a few things going on, but apart from um
00:22:30
Speaker
um novels and um ah merch, you know including the Hasbro stuff, the figures. I didn't realize that there was absolutely nothing planned for so SDCC in terms of forward-looking. and We were talking this morning about you know, when are we gonna see something for a skeleton crew? And we'll talk about that in a second, because there has, ironically, something come out today. When it when is there something for Andor? And you know, what happens after that? And while we can assume, you know, Ahsoka season two,
00:23:07
Speaker
Hopefully the acolyte season two, um Mando season four, if not a bleak film. I don't know what's going on there. We don't have really an awful lot. And I think i think the guys were telling me that we're pretty much hopeful on on um D23 to kind of, not D24 for reference, but D23 to kind of update us there. But I was really surprised there was no news whatsoever. I didn't know. I didn't i didn't perhaps, again, I think I misinterpreted what was being said in the Discord, um but also I'm somewhat a bit surprised. um and But there is some news.
00:23:52
Speaker
So i on that note, like i cause I've been thinking about this quite a bit from San Diego Comic Con, especially after our conversation last week, where I was kind of like, I don't think anything's going to come from Star Wars. And then I was like, I kind of I kind of said that in the moment, but I kept thinking about it. And it's like, you know what, especially with how San Diego Comic Con came out, which we're going to get into. I feel like Star Wars is kind of taking on the Marvel, the Marvel pattern. And I think, but I think there's like a two year difference right now. And I think we're, we're kind of stepping into that. It's like, yeah, we're going to continue to get shows, but they're not going to be there. It's kind of like maintaining the IP a little bit and like kind of keeping things going, but it's not the big stuff. And it's like, so like how we saw with Marvel ramping, ramping up, like it's still, we got still got some time before a lot of it comes, but it's like, I think we're going to start seeing that kind of with Star Wars.
00:24:46
Speaker
In another year or so, but not that the content that we're getting is not good. I love it. I'm excited for it. But I think they're kind of. Letting the engines cool a little bit kind of following the same Marvel pattern of like, all right, we kind of, we had some stuff. Let's follow that pattern. Let's let it kind of. Sit back in the pocket a little bit. Let's keep our shows rolling. Keep people interested. Keep the storylines moving. But then we're going to hit them heavy with some big stuff like in another in another year or so. Maybe we'll get some more stuff in celebration and in Japan ramping up. But I don't think we're going to get like the big, big stuff for it until like the following celebration, which kind of sucks. But at the same time, it's like there is a little brand burnout, I'm sure, for most people.
00:25:31
Speaker
Um, like we're obviously way deeper fans. and We're like, give me more now. I want it all the time. But like from a practical side of things, it's like maybe this will be a good thing so that they can kind of reset, find their center, build the next ah big wave or phase. Uh, of things and really kind of rock and roll with it because it's like if they, if Marvel's good. ah no I was just going to say, I was going to wait until later on when we talked about what you know what little skeleton crew news we've got. and um But I will talk about it now, and it's something that I talked to the guys about this morning again, um is that um
00:26:13
Speaker
i I feel quite good about what we've had and what we're going to get. and Does some of it land with me? to Does everything land with me? No, of course it doesn't, because what I like about what they're doing is they're trying to curate a really, really broad palette of of of stuff um that appeals to the six-year-olds, the seven-year-olds, the eight-year-olds, all the way up to the 50-year-olds, like myself. and it's like um and i don't I don't know. Maybe my heart, my my brain's not wired properly, but I don't quite understand the concept of um everything being focused on the same demographic, everything being focused in in appealing to the same people. But because when you do that, you limit your
00:27:04
Speaker
what we call a town or a terrible, terrible market in business, you limit you limit you limit yourself and you've got... you know it's It's like going into... I don't know, it's like going into... A bar. anybody you say To flip it around, you can't you can't get more money out of existing customers. and's like So let's brooks expand and get more.
Comic-Con Experiences and Future Films
00:27:25
Speaker
Yeah, but it's not only about you know expanding your market, it's also appealing to everyone within a family. yeah So it's kind of like yeah you know you you you you walk in and you're not going to serve yourself. you know You're not going to serve your 12-year-old daughter liquor. You're not going to serve her liquor. You might you know you might you'll serve the old man. and the and and and
00:27:45
Speaker
um in the family, um um maybe a whiskey or something, but you certainly wouldn't, you'd eat offer a milkshake or, and I'm sorry, I'm trying to generalize here a little bit, but you know so what I mean? It's is it's it's that, you know, you you you have to appeal to all tastes and all. And I think that one of the things that come out of this, because this morning's chat with Josh and the guys was really all about, you know, what do we feel when we've cut, now that Um, the acolyte is over and how do we feel about, how do we feel about, um, the state of Star Wars at the moment? And I'm, I feel quite good. and't know I love the fact that the next one we're going from quite a thought provoking and deep and you know, ah extremely deep and, and mythological story, um, in the acolyte and we're going to a very, very simple handling S.
00:28:37
Speaker
Um, humbling esque, sorry. Um, adventure with skeleton crew and I'm, I'm up for all of it. And it's, um, and if I'm not, but I, but I won't be. switched on by all of it, if that makes sense, because yeah the stuff that I'm not switched on to or the stuff that doesn't resonate with me probably wasn't designed for me in the first place. Anyway. think about um Well, think about it, but flip but flip it, but flip it on its head. like I think it helps strengthen the brands. That's kind of what you're saying. like like let's Let's take case in point, like Marvel. Marvel has had a lot more time and experience with expanding
00:29:15
Speaker
the scope of the brand in the markets and things like that. And I think Star Wars has just started to get into that over there the last X many years of like, oh, forces of destiny, the Star Wars kid shows and things like that really kind of cater to that younger market. Marvel's had Spider-Man cartoons. the ah all of the the young kid cartoons for as long as I mean, as long as I've been around. So and now they're really starting to branch out with their different kind of adult television instead of just kind of that generic thing. And I think Star Wars is is following that same thing, too. So it's like, I'm a huge fan of it. I've I'm really excited for Skeleton Crew, not because I think it's going to be thought provoking Star Wars, but I I think that
00:29:56
Speaker
simplified, like i'm so I'm excited to see it enter a new market. And so I think that's, I think this is all really, really good. And I'm i'm hoping to continue that trend of like, not just making trilogy movies, like those are awesome. But I'm, but I'm the demographic. I know I am like continue to make cartoons or YouTube shorts or game shows or yeah mythological stuff. I think this is awesome. I love all, I love it. Pretty cool. Yeah, me too. So We'll talk a little bit about skeleton crew in a second because. um
00:30:32
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yeah it comes september i got Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. it Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. not Not only that, but but. um In terms of San Diego Comic Con itself, what did you pick up while i was well it was on? And I must admit, I've got a bunch of things that I've seen or read in the last 24, 48 hours and I can't actually work out whether it's part of San Diego Comic Con or something very, very different. So for example, the the the the Skeleton crew news came out today and I'm not sure if some of the other stuff I've got or seen is also in addition to San Diego Comic Con. So I'll let you kick off first. So San die san Diego Comic Con from, this is kind of, it's not really news, but it's kind of sounds like more of experiential. From what I've heard from people, it sounds like it was absolute chaos, like in a good way and ah kind of about it. Oh, wow.
00:31:25
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just from people I know that have went, but obviously that's that's conventions. In terms of like the news that came out, I'll be honest, it their Marvel coverage was really, really good. like For how little information that they gave out, and for somebody like me who was never a huge Marvel comic reader, like i'm I'm excited for the future of Marvel, even though even though we're kind of like, in the weeds a little bit with some of these movies coming out. like So for those who don't know, two Avengers movies, there's the ah Avengers Secret Wars, there's the Avengers Doomsday, new one that's coming out before the set up for Secret Wars, where they announced Robert Downey Jr. coming back to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Doomsday, which is kind of, I think it's kind of cool, because it's like, oh, cool, we're gonna get like TVA,
00:32:20
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I imagine probably like a bad Tony Stark alternate universe version, which I think would be kind of cool. um Plus that brings Madison to the movie theater or makes her watch the movie because she's a big are Robert Downey Jr fan. ah Like the Thunderbolt stuff with all the all the wacky wacky people. Seeing Giancarlo Esposito as like the main villain of Captain America Brave New World. with like the Serpent Society stuff. I think that's cool. And the biggest shocker was. I'm actually excited for the Fantastic Four Fantastic Four movie. I'm so glad you said that. I'm so glad you said that. I I I I I've I've been holding this in while you've been talking. I'm so glad you said that because me too, buddy. Me too. Because because that's a franchise I'm like all the other movies are like. They're just.
00:33:18
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like not great. And like, I've said, I think that's always led me to feel like Fantastic Four is just kind of like a bleh, bleh kind of like group and franchise stuff. And it's like, Oh, they're the first family, blah, blah, blah. And so when they announced that they're redoing it it again, it's like, Oh, God, like move on. But that like after some of the stuff that's come out and like, the fact that you can tell they're really They're really trying to do it right this time. oh yeah without doubt And yes the aesthetic and stuff, it's like, okay, okay, I'm getting behind this. This is cool. I like it. I love this shit. I love this shit. it's it's like um it's It's like an awful lot of the genre. I don't know what the genre is called, but it's awful lot like an awful lot of the sci-fi or the fantasy or the that
00:34:06
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the stuff that really appeals to me at the moment, which is kind of like an alternative take on the past. I love that. I love that retro kind of like fifties. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, like high tech made out of Bakelite. I love that shit, man. I absolutely love that. And looking at the visuals out minus the bomb part. It's exactly. it so it's it's it's It's so goddamn beautifully campy. i'm I'm really, really looking forward to it. And you know like you, the other stuff looks great. It's good to see Harrison um as or the first glimpse of him um as the Red Hulk. And certainly his presence on stage looks like looks like he's really, really psyched. I have to admit, we are a positive podcast. The announcement of Robert Downey Jr.
00:34:57
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left me confused and the only... okay That's the salt shaker, right? Is that the salt shaker? Yes, that's the salt shaker. Don't worry, I'm not going to be grinding it today. Anyway, the point being is is is um and um one thing, um i I have my concerns that um the the The powers that be at Marvel have reached the conclusion that phases two or three, whatever it's called. I think it's phase three, which was, or even maybe phase four. Anyway, the the Marvel the unice mar universe after Endgame hasn't delivered what they wanted.
00:35:47
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what they wanted or what they expected. And so therefore they're taking obviously a back step, but they that they they're building themselves a safety blanket by by bringing in old faces um to establish a new ah new a new era, as it were. If the story is good and there's an explanation and it's simply not a case of Robert Downey Jr. playing Dr. Doom, and there being no no explanation whatsoever,
00:36:25
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um um then i'm like I'm okay. I guess I'm okay with it. um And yeah like we always say, if it's done right, I'm in, you know, i'm ah I'm in. That's fair. Yeah. but So I hope there's some really, really clever, I hope there's some really, really clever writing associated with it. I hope there's an explanation associated with it. I really hope it's maybe not a multiverse. reason or a reason for the multiverse because we know we'll talk a little bit about our experience with Deadpool in the last week or so, but but but even they parody the fact that the multiverse has been done to death now, let's let's that's kind of call it a day. um so like I feel like the TVA is here to stay and it's like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's there's any way they can get away without doing that.
00:37:18
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OK, OK. But maybe anyway, we'll see what happens. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. um But but but I'd like I'd like to you know, I want to keep an open mind. I'm certainly not going to be judging what's going on online and without actually seeing it. I'm not that stupid. um But but yeah, if it's done right, I'm I'm up for anything like that. But like you said, the one thing that I was least looking forward to because it hasn't been done particularly well um in recent years. The one that gets me really excited is this new take on Fantastic Four because they're going back to the original Fantastic Four, they're going back to the aesthetic, they're going back to the they that that they campiness, they're not trying to
00:37:59
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hard call the whole thing up. You know, they're not trying to modernize the whole thing. It's exactly where it needs to be. um And I love that. I love, love, love that. And so, yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. um It could be, it doesn't even have to, it didn't even have to be a Marvel movie, but the whole premise of this modern take on 1960s, on the 1960s, like a future past. I love that. I love that oh yeah that whole premise. So I'm looking really looking forward to it. I'm I'm excited. I'm excited that one like I saw some of the footage online from like bootleg shit. It's like, oh yeah, seeing like Galactus was cool. I'm excited because I know they cast ah the I forgot her name that the girl from Ozark that I always quote as like the silver surfer. It's like, oh, dude, this is going to be that one's going to this one's going to be a trip like I bet that's going to be that's going to be so cool. um And they are. Yeah, the I.
00:38:59
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yeah And the the idea that they're casting a female silversurf as well is beautiful. ah yeah i've um absolutely Absolutely beautiful. I love i love i love it. only for you know if If only for shits and giggles, I'm up for that because it's going to get people talking. um I have a bunch of other stuff as well, but I don't know if it's part of San Diego Comic Con. So the only thing I actually picked up as part of San Diego Comic Con on top of that
00:39:30
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um knowingly, um, I might've done other stuff mistakenly, um, was the merch coming out of, um, Hasbro. And of course, in particular, they, they, they've, they've confirmed in the, um, the black series they've confirmed as a future release, uh, my boy kill Naka. And, uh, I can't remember anything else because as soon as I saw that I was kind of done and fed. So, um, did you pick up anything else? Uh, no, I did see a panel about squish squish mellows, uh, those giant squishy pillows. And it just, I just laughed about it because it reminded me of going to celebration, uh, with our buddy, Andy Campbell. Uh, one of the Andes going to the, uh,
00:40:15
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Micro Galaxy Squadron panel where they showed all the upcoming releases and like a room full of people just being overly excited. And I could just picture that for like Squishmallows, feeling like, oh, it's going to be a nightmare before Christmas, Squishmallows. And people would be like, yeah, yeah, let's go. Let's fucking go. And so it just gave me funny flashbacks to that. But other than that, no, I remember seeing them. I think I'm just so out of the black series game anymore, because as you can see, my office is full. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Like likewise. And I've got no interest in any of them apart from this particular one, because I have to.
00:40:54
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I have to do the Wookiees. The only other thing I picked up in the news was, um and again, I don't know whether it was part of the ancillary or the the the other yeah the studios as part of their presentation, but let me just run past what I've seen in the last week or so in terms of news. So Star Trek, there's a couple of our buddies that are really, really heavy Trekkies or Trekkers, depending on their location. And I'm really excited that Brave New Worlds, which um I found really, really interesting. Although I wouldn't call myself a trekker in any way or trekkie in any way. um um I found it quite great in that it kind of
00:41:38
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picked up on that vibe and that again, that um that that vibe and that that um ce amount that that kind of the semantics of the semantics the aesthetics sorry of the of the original series. um And they're they're coming out with season three, which is great. And the stories are great. Absolutely fantastic. um And then top of that is section 31. which is if you like a spin-off of the Discovery series that they um they had running that is now concluded I believe over recent episodes which um follows the Mirror Universe version of a particular
00:42:17
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um person, and I can't remember her name at this moment, um but that looks exciting. It's a little bit like Black Ops, Starfleet Black Ops, which looks exciting, um and a little bit like, ah sorry, not only Black Ops, but let's say the Suicide Squad. So it's basically a team of Starfleet, which is undercover. They're a little bit bad. They're a little bit edgy. um They don't they don't They don't follow the rules. um And that's quite exciting for something that is typically squeaky clean as Star Trek. um I saw the Rings of Power trailer. I don't know if you saw that. um But the Rings of Power looks looks looks really good. I know that you're particularly excited about that coming out um on Prime. I did not see it, but I am excited for it.
00:43:05
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looking forward to that. um I saw the joke Joker 2 or Foliadur trailer which is the second um film with Joachim Phoenix. Joachim Phoenix. Joachim Phoenix and Lady Gaga. Joachim Phoenix and Lady Gaga. That looks good. I must admit um The original Joker really resonated with me. It's a lovely, it's ah it's an amazing piece of art, but good God, it's a traumatic film. i it's not um It's almost like how I felt about walking away from, I don't know, seven. um It's not one of those films that it's really, really quite dark and really, I mean, regardless of
00:43:55
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who um he plays, it really is an analysis of of of mental health and let's say the inappropriate or insufficient um facilities that the Western world um um accommodates for mental health. And it really left me quite, quite hollow. um So while I thought the, you know, he very much deserved his Oscar, and I thought it was an amazing film, and I am looking, I will definitely go and see this film in in in the um
00:44:33
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in the cinema, it's ah it's going to be a if it's anything like the first one, it's going to be a it's I wouldn't say it's a fight, but it's going to be hard work to get through it, if that makes sense. Yeah, it's a somber watch. I love that film. I just hate the people that gravitated towards it and made it something that it wasn't. That's that's my biggest. Yeah. like Yeah. I don't want to say ah the weapon the weaponization of it, but the people who have misconstrued The the stuff that was kind I believe was meant to be taken away from it and have made it into this kind of Bump like shitty bumper sticker of like making a statement of like I'm i'm an edgelord Whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I know I know what you mean. um I know what you mean and No, I know what you mean and it's it was I'm absolutely sure the intent was completely the opposite to that which was this is not about glorification this is about
00:45:30
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It's a social commentary on just how inadequate our our mental health system is. Anyway, moving on from that. To that to that that point, I do believe that that's one of the reasons why they made it a musical or have musical elements is like where it was taken. I'm like, all right. Well, the next one, we're going to make a musical because let's see. you Let's see you kind of co-op. Yeah. You you guys. think you You guys are going to run a mile. Yeah. No, I think it's I think it's controlling. I really do. Yeah. I love it. I really do.
00:46:08
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I did get some breaking news from our buddy Turbo, by the way. Oh, sorry. Yeah, cool. The Oscar Mayer Wienermobile is coming to South Lake Tahoe in two weeks. Excellent. Very exciting. Excellent. That's the best and best news I've got all day. um um Has that just come in? Literally, that's what I was looking at my phone at, like, but oh, the Wienermobile is coming. I hope it's so we should we should we should we should we should have a slot in this we should have a turbo watch we should have turbo watch breaking news from turbo we need to do oh mate we need to do something like a like a like a like a bulletin we need to have a bullet bullet and snip breaking news from turbo yeah I like that the wiener mobile is coming to South Lake Tyler
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end of um and then And then the last, um, now we'll resume your normal service. Um, now the last bit of, uh, the, the, the last bit of news I picked up on this week.
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00:47:05
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And again, I haven't picked up on anything at all. And again, I've got no idea whether it's part of SDCC or whether it's something that I've just picked up, um, in, uh, along the way. Um, we already know that the, um, the next series of the boys will be the last series of the boys. Um, And yet the spin-off, which is Generation V, or Gen V, no, it's Gen V, isn't it? they will That will carry on, I believe, as is, as will another spin-off, which is set also set in the 60s. So hey, I'm getting everything I want at the moment. And the idea being of this spin-off is essentially as it sets up um the early days of VoIP, when they come out with Compound V and and um
00:47:55
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Um, when they come up with compound V in the, in the first instance, and I believe that, um, soldier boy and all those guys, uh, it's, that it's, it's essentially that they're their time. So I'm looking forward to that. And if it's done again, done, right. It would be really, really nice to compliment it as we prepare ourselves coming to the end of the main line, the mainline series.
00:48:25
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So that's um kind of what I picked up, what I picked up in the news. And again, I've got no idea which order I picked it up in, but I did make my notes during the week. um What about watching this, watching, listening and reading? How's your week been? I mean, I've watched. I haven't watched a lot. I did. I did finish blazing through the boy season four and I watched Deadpool Wolverine. But we'll talk about those. you know Yeah, because I know you have to. But it before that, I have been, besides the deck, I've been working on my my model a little bit. I know it's not really, it kind of fits in this category of like, what have I been doing? um But not necessarily about the model, but I've been chitty chatting with some of our buddies over at the scruffies. And I think we might have a ah special bonus ah your bonus episode coming very, very soon. So be on the lookout for that.
00:49:21
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Well, that'll be cool because, you know, i I do struggle every now and again just trying to hold this hold this whole podcast podcast up. So it'd be nice for somebody else to finally do a little bit of heavy lifting and some work. That would be that would be good. so Yeah, I mean.
00:49:39
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I was going to I was going to make some jokes about somebody, other people being able to get a word in edgewise, but I've already teased you enough before we started recording. So I'm not going to be like, do you want it? Even though I do, I still said it. So whatever. Do you honestly think I'm going to be able to contribute to that? I mean, I want to be there because I want to speak to the boys, but I would be like every every 30 minutes will be like, what does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? Should I just record you saying like, wow, that's crazy. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Just like sprinkle, sprinkle them in. Let's make a soundboard up and I can just then go on mute and just just drink a bottle of wine while I'm listening to you guys wax lyrical.
00:50:21
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um Okay, that's really cool. they really really ah um mean You know I'm in awe of you guys and what you guys do, so I'm really excited about that that's coming up as well, amongst other things, hopefully, if all are if all the planets are align and we get it, get our shit together. People start big They guys start big-timing us. I know, oh I know, I know. I've got to stop being so damn successful. Just just be losers like us, ah please. um um So like you, i but I already had watched the end of season four. So we'll talk about that in a second of the boys. um I went to see Deadpool and Wolverine at the cinema. And I'll talk about who we want to use that as our major talking point this week. um I did watch. um I was left on my own for a couple of hours the other night and um
00:51:13
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every now and again, I'm allowed to be left on my own. And I watched the Ministry of Angel, I mean, Gentlemanly Warfare from Guy Ritchie. um I am a fan of some Guy Ritchie films. um I like a lot of his, you know, kind of like, I don't want to call it Britpop, but his kind of London is his stuff based in London like, you know, Snatch and Lockstock. I love that kind of stuff. And there's some other stuff that I really like as well of his, but I watched Ministry of Evangelicality Warfare based on a a true story of a bunch of, if you like, um
00:51:51
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secretive and off-the-radar operatives that were quite bad, um ah working for the Allies, mainly British, but during World War II, that did some very nefarious missions, which meant an awful lot of bloodshed. And um under the radar stuff that, if you like, the Ministry of Defense didn't sanction, or it certainly wasn't sanctioned by any real hierarchy within the UK. You know, plausible deniability, all that shit. And it was, it's a good film. I really, really enjoyed it. Very, very, very much akin to, um akin to Inglourious Basterds in that it's got kind of like a, I would say a modern take. It's very much.
00:52:35
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the aesthetics are very much ah of its time, but the the dialogue is is very modern or very contemporary. And um it's it's a good film. It's a good film. It's ah it's a little bit it's a little bit um copy caddy in places of Inglourious Basterds, but bearing in mind that I loved Inglourious Basterds so much, um I didn't really have too much of a problem with it. It's not as exquisitely has exquisitely um edited, direct directed and and and and and just generally put together um as quentin's t as Quentin's film, but it's a really, really good film. If you fancy something that's readily available, I believe I've watched it on Netflix and it's a good yarn for a couple of hours.
00:53:26
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um How's the dragon series season two? I'm up to date on that now. Um, we've approached the end of season two now. I'm not going to give anything away in case you do get around to it, but, um, yeah, it's quite funny. Uh, so is it, is it completely over now? Yeah, it's still done now. So, um, you know, we're looking forward to season three now, which will be the, I think will be the end of the, of the series, knowing where it is at the moment in the. in the in the books but we should say they might be able to drag it out a little bit like you know how um Peter Jackson dragged out the Hobbit although maybe that's not a good example but you understand what I mean. um Haven't been able to finish Dark Matter yet
00:54:15
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um the what i'm the ones who lived, Scrubs and Cobra Kai yet simply because you know I haven't got around to it. um What I've been listening to, oh sorry, one thing I did start to watch, and I wanna talk to you about this offline actually, but you know we're friends with everyone that listens, so I might as well tell you now, um but I will also talk to you about it online, offline. We don't have a series for a while, so I was wondering if you would be interested in joining me
00:54:46
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in watching Time Bandits. If you have Apple Plus, if you have Apple TV, I can't get it until... I can't get it back until tomorrow. um So Time Bandits is if the Taika Waititi version of the original Terry Gilliam film, which I adore, um and it's going to be a bitter... I hope it's not a bitter pill for me to
00:55:16
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to swallow, to watch it, um because I obviously like the creator and everything else he's done for the small screen I think has been superb. um But it will be a new series that I'm going to watch with Ernest when I get Apple Plus back tomorrow. So if you're up for it, why don't we make that our ongoing, it's only an hour a week, so why don't we make that our ongoing homework or our study work to do ah before we before we we hook up every week. So since there's 10 episodes in this season, do you want to do like ah cook looks like they released two at a time. You want to do two episodes at a time for a show?
00:56:04
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but Let's just talk about it every week. you know as to what is it a little bit like you know it's it's our It's our surrogate Star Wars at the moment. and I think that i think it'll it's going to be when we don't have guests on, I think it's a good idea for us to be you know watching something else rather than together. albeit on different sides of the Atlantic, but be watching it together um so we can talk about it the following week rather than stuff independently. So have a think about it anyway. Let me let me refphrese rephrase that question. Andy, I have a spicy brain and I need you to set an expectation of how many episodes I need to watch before next week since there's already four that have been released. Oh shit. Do I need to watch all four or do I need to watch two?
00:56:47
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Actually, take go and there will be the two more will be released on Tuesday. So do I need to watch? Oh, shit. How long are the episodes? See, I can't tell you until I get Apple Plus back or Apple TV back. Sorry. I think they are thirty forty nine forty minutes each, I think. Roughly. I don't know. I'm not really looking at Apple TV. Let's have it. Let's. Let's have a think about this offline, but I'm glad you you're embracing the, at least the
00:57:21
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At least the idea. the answer The answer is yes, I will do this. I just need to know how many do I need to watch. We could talk about that offline. chip but but Shit, Shit, I screwed that one up again, didn't I? Anyway, OK, cool. um ah The next one is, um that's kind of it in terms of what I've but i but i've watched and stuff on telly and on the big screen. um Listen to. um I don't think I've ever, well, first of all, thanks again to Josh and the team over at Star Wars Spelt Out to Ching. I love you guys to bits, and I really really, really, really have enjoyed joining them most weeks apart from two up to review the- There's a couple of weeks you didn't Well, because I wasn't there. no No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. Not at all. um I love that part anyway. And it was it's been an absolute pleasure and a privilege to ah to be part of of his review review team. I'm just sad that it's come to an end and hopefully we can do something when scott Skeleton Crew comes back.
00:58:24
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um But the other thing that I have been listening to um just To change things up a little bit Josh actually a few of our pods I mean one of them being the bad motivators dropped off last year or they ended last year it left me with a hole in my in my podcast listening um repertoire for for a while. I reached out to Josh and said, hey, are there any podcasts that you really, really like that I should think to? that you know that They're not hard work that you can switch your brain off and just listen to it about pop culture ah beyond the usuals, you know the seth you know Sith List, ah Blue Harvest, et cetera, et cetera. And he said, if each have you checked out um
00:59:05
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If you checked out um ah Weekly Planet, and the Weekly Planet is a couple of Melbourne guys that are very lighthearted, a lot of fun, a heck of a lot of fun, really don't take themselves seriously. And in fact, one of them ah is known online as as Mr. Sunday Movies, and he's um he's a very, very funny guy um that's been very prolific on YouTube for quite a few years. um But they do a spin-off, like an ancillary part of of their podcast. I'm sorry, taking a step back. they they they They talk about the same kind of stuff that we do, but they do it in a lot more structured way. um it's It's structured. It's got an agenda. It's got an itinerary. ah They know exactly what they've been doing. They've been doing it for quite a while, and they' they're clearly um really good professionals. But the kind of thinking behind that that podcast is is their their vibe is kind of similar. I'd like to think as to ours that they don't take itself dont tell take themselves too seriously. And generally, in most cases, they see see things positively.
01:00:05
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Anyway, they do an ancillary um episode um so so they record twice a week or they publish twice a week and there's a smaller version of the of the podcast called Caravan of Garbage whereby they review films and they could be the worst films in the world or the best film best films in the world and at the moment they're reviewing the um the Alien trilogy, sorry the Alien quad trilogy Because what they do do really really well is that they typically review old films in advance of a new version of that film either ah a reboot or a spin-off or indeed a sequel coming up and recently for example they reviewed all of the Wolverine films and some they were very positive about some they weren't particularly positive about.
01:00:48
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Because as we all know, they very much varied in terms of their quality. What I'm trying to make on the Alien stuff is that we are approaching August whereby Alien Romulus is going to be launched and they're currently going through their review. It's only 20 minute or 25 or 30 minute snippet. on their opinion of that particular movie. And I like these guys an awful lot. I don't talk about them enough. Again, our buddy Josh switched me on to them. And I really like the way that they get us ready if you like. They they almost create, they almost establish a journey to a new film that's coming out in the cinema in in the upcoming weeks. And I've really enjoyed their shtick. um And that's kind of it apart from
01:01:35
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apart from, um, the boys season four, I'd love to know your opinion. And then obviously the, um, the main, at the main tent event, which is, um, which is Deadpool. So before we jump into the boys, I bet you talking about that pod reminded me of something I actually listened to that I wanted to give a shout out to. Um, we, we, we all know our buddy Rick. Um, I, really enjoyed his latest episode of Jam Transmissions, where he had a special guest on from Forest Center, Ken Knapsock. I did not listen to Forest Center before this, but that episode I think came at a really, really good time.
01:02:20
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ah with all the conversations about ah liking Acolyte, not liking Acolyte, liking Star Wars, not liking Star Wars. um And i I recommend everybody, I thought it was a really good episode. I thought there was a lot of really good conversation about like, um Like growing with Star Wars ah Whether it's like I didn't like something yesterday But then like learning to embrace other people's thoughts and opinions um Or ifs not or not having something be for you and it was just I don't know there was just something about that episode I even messaged him like when I finished it. I'm like dude killer episode. That was awesome um I thought there was some really good discussion about what Star Wars means to you and others and
01:03:03
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um and things like that. I don't know. It was just, I can't speak intelligently about it because it's been a couple of days since I listened to it, but it was it was really it was really, really good. I highly recommend everybody go and take a little listen because it was good.
01:03:19
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Cool. That's really good. No, I listened to it myself recently and I thought that the um they approached the whole thing ah a particular way, um which um made me think about, A, the way I engaged with the the franchise in the first instance, the type of person I want to be as well, which I thought was was very, very, very good indeed. I just realized I just made a faux pas during this during this um this very same... Okay, so I have seen, by hook or by crook, and and I won't go into too much detail, I have seen the finale of House of the Dragon. um It may not have actually been, it may may not actually be on um
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It may not have been streamed yet. Oh, you saw the the leak that was going around.
01:04:14
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Maybe. Yeah, I think you are among a lot of people. OK, fine. OK, fine. OK, sorry, I just I just tried to. My old brain was trying to remember. has it actually finished yet or are we still on so episode seven anyway yeah yeah I'm not anyway um um um' not going to talk about it until you watch it anyway so it doesn't it doesn't really matter anyway um sorry before we go into sorry before we do do do go into Deadpool and the boys I forgot to talk about what we did here today from and I should have
01:04:48
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I don't know why I didn't pick this up in news. I did ah put a pin in it, and then I forgot all about it. ah Skeleton Crew. um Basically, people, um the website people, or the publication people magazine, um have had the first views um of, or have some early shots of, um Jude and the kids. And it looks all fun and everything, um and they seem to be interviewing um Jude, who teases our childhood adventure, Um, and there's a couple of Easter eggs in there. I haven't had a chance to, uh, to, to read it, uh, in any way, because our buddies literally made us aware of this on the discord channel about 10 or me anyway, 10 minutes before we started recording, but it looks, it looks great. Um, what I like about it is that that's about all I read December 3rd. What I like about it is that is, is, is the first.
01:05:43
Speaker
when Jude Law is i he's ah he's a bugger. He's an absolute bugger. He's a bad boy, in is or has been a bad boy in his private life, but I like him an awful lot. and He's written here, or he said here, the first word that comes to mind when describing the series is joyful, which I thought was fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. but um' Again, I'm sure it'll upset a few people, but the fact that he's going in with that childlike, kind of or it seems to have that kind of child-like vibe to it is great. He also says that seeing children in that environment, in a Star Wars environment, repeating himself there, but doesn't matter, is thrilling and very, very unique. It's a fun place to be, the universe of Star Wars, he adds with a smile, and there are great references to old films and recent episodes and series. There's a lot of originality, and I hope that that will bring the feeling of fun to those who watch it.
01:06:41
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um I won't go to any more detail. As I said, it's online, um people dot.com, um interview with Jude Law, ah probably ah the most we've had in terms of a snippet about Skeleton Crew until now, but it looks it looks ace. I love that. I love that. I love a little bit of lighthearted bands. That's that's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Anywho, The Boys series for my friend, the boys.
The Boys and Binge-Watching Debate
01:07:12
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What do you think? I like binging this show. um I like this show. This season was very.
01:07:26
Speaker
ah Current events ish. I wish season five wasn't coming in 2026. that I have the same kind of feeling about like this as I do like Stranger Things. it's like Stranger Things is like the worst offender. like Hey, you know what would be great is if you released a season once more than once every four years. um No, i really I really enjoyed it. um i think like I'm not going to talk about the discourse, because one, I don't follow the discourse. I just know there is discourse, and I don't care.
01:08:01
Speaker
um it It feels like it's getting more substance. um It's still just gruesome, violent, um and all that. It's not any different that way. But I do enjoy, like there's nothing that I look at this show and go like, I don't I don't like that. The Ryan's voice is weird. Like do they do they make him talk that way to make him seem young? But I know I just I just enjoy it's kind of like one of those like guilty pleasure shows where I'm like I don't take it too seriously. I don't like go back and rewatch old episodes. I don't I'm not like well what's the lore because I remember I did see something on there about
01:08:41
Speaker
On reddit or something baby and like how why couldn't the victoria newman just pop homelanders head what's her actual power like who cares i'm just i'm just consuming and i'm enjoying what i'm consuming i don't dig too terribly deep into the like what what are star lights powers exactly. um I meant for more of like this social the social commentary, but also kind of like the, I wonder how we're going to get out of this pickle kind of thing. It's just entertaining. yeah I enjoyed it. I enjoyed season four. Would I like to watch it week to week? Probably not so much. I mean, I'd probably still watch it and enjoy it, but I really like being able to sit down and just hammer through it.
01:09:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's one of those, it's one of those, it's one of the, i like, like you, I, I watch it, um, I wouldn't say in the periphery, but in the peripheral, you know, in the peripheral vision. Um, but it's one of those ones that I, I, I watch and enjoy and don't necessarily read into an awful lot. And so therefore two years later where the next series comes out, I'm like, what the hell happened? And unfortunately for me, um, um, I mean, it hasn't happened yet with the boys, but it certainly happened with, um, I don't know if you ever heard of a series called rings of power where I couldn't be bothered to remember. And so I didn't watch it. Um, and that's kind of one of those things that I'm sure that, you know, at the time COVID had an awful lot to do with.
01:10:14
Speaker
to do with the the scheduling and obviously we've had the strike in the last, well, certainly last calendar year as well. And I'm sure that will play a big part, but with so much of a gap between property in properties that I don't have, I don't ah don't
01:10:36
Speaker
study the subtitles for because I'm not i'm not that vested. It's quite dangerous for me, but luckily the boys I've stayed i've stayed happy with. The one thing I would say is that, and i like I'm sure I'm repeating myself from previous weeks, is that I'm kind of glad they're going to focus on a few spin-offs and they're calling it a day on the main line. Yeah, I agree. It'll get long in the tooth if they don't. And that's only because I found that while I you know while ah love a bit of violence and I love the violence, I felt that the they the the shock factor was, in many cases, in many episodes, because I watched them weekly, unlike you and Bim watched them. um And I found that in some episodes, that's all they had.
01:11:31
Speaker
to take the story forward. And it was like, it used to be a perfect balance between really good storytelling and a progressive storyline and and you know all of this gorgeous veneer of blood and guts. Whereas I felt I wouldn't say they over index on the blood and guts this this time round, um but in some cases it's all they kind of had um to progress the storyline forward. I certainly don't subscribe to an awful lot of the criticism it's been getting online um where they're talking about it being a bit too political um because it's way too close to current events. It's like, have you not been watching the first three seasons? You must have been absolutely
01:12:24
Speaker
on a different planet or watching a very, very different TV program to myself, if you do not realize it's a parody of corporate political and, shall we say, extreme extremist culture that's going on in the Western world these days. um But no, I have enjoyed it, but I'm really glad that they've got a they've got a plan to end this story. um And as otherwise it turns into a day to a daytime. So if it not otherwise, it's just like flavor of the week. Just keep repeating the same. so i like It needs. I love. I've I've loved the series. I don't want to turn into The Walking Dead. b Exactly, exactly. Yeah, that's perfect. A perfect analogy of like, don't. It's that simple, really. Don't don't stick around long enough.
01:13:18
Speaker
Yeah, for the people, um the criticisms about the politics stuff. It's like, I don't understand why that's a criticism. It's like, oh, it's too political. It's like, does that does that make people and I mean, not to dive into it, but it's like, does that make people uncomfortable and they don't like it? Like, is it like that clip from I can't remember what it's from where it's like the guy being like, Wait, are we the baddies? Like, are we the Like, I don't understand why that's from a criticism. Yeah, that's ah from a British sort of british soap opera, that which were which were it was ah it was a sketch about um two Nazi officers. ah But yeah, I know what you mean. um yeah i mean Also, for those people that that claim to be aficionados, because everyone's an expert these days, as you know, but the those those people that claim to be aficionados, um
01:14:04
Speaker
They clearly have never read Watchmen. they've clever they've very They've clearly never read um The Boys, graphic novel either, or we sorry, that The Boys ah comics as well, which are, that's exactly what they are. They are exactly political and and and a social commentary on on um on greed and everything that's bad. um Anyway, yeah know my my favorite episode though, and I wanted to talk to you about it last week, but I was going to wait until you'd seen it was um the farm episode, the day that they find themselves on the farm. um And it was like it was like it was like episode, episode, episode, episode, like blood guts, blood guts, blood guts.
01:14:50
Speaker
flying sheep and having flying sheep, you know, where the, where the laboratory is that they're trying to, um, trying to break into. I just thought that that was the, my favorite without a doubt, uh, episode probably ah of the entire series simply because it was so batshit crazy. I laughed so hard on that one. Um, yeah, I really enjoyed it. I love, I love that episode too. It is kind of funny, like, The more I think about the boys and like the seasons, it's like it's almost. It reminds like that there's like a pattern of the writing. It's like they get six. They take the slow burn. I hate that word phrase, but.
01:15:32
Speaker
They have like six episodes in the season where it's like, oh, we're building up. And then they have like the last two written. And then they have like those seven and eight where they're like, okay, we don't really know how to bridge these first six with these last two. yeah And so like those seven and eight are always just like, there's always a moment where I'm like, what the, what the fuck is going on? like What happened? Did I miss an episode? Because they're like, all right, we got to draw the lines from this pin to this pin. They're like, let's make it happen. And it's funny. I don't it's not a bad thing. um Like I have a similar feeling about like a love band of brothers. I love that series. I love all those. But it's like when they get to like the stone and like the winter or like the winter episodes, like, wait, what um what happened? Where are all the people I knew? Where'd they go? What's happened?
01:16:22
Speaker
It's the same kind of with this where it's like episode seven. Is that when they go up into Belgium? is it Not Norway. All the snowy parts in the foxholes.
01:16:37
Speaker
Yeah. I know what you mean. like what is going like What is going on? Did I miss an episode? And then it's like, no, you didn't. It's just, we're just moving. We're moving things along now. Um, same. I think the the boys always kind of has that same. But that happened, but that, but that, but that happened, dude. You have an awful lot of the, you know, the, the, the, the Normandy landings of, of which yeah yeah yeah also the D the delay landing where an awful lot of them, once they got onto France, they headed north. up to Benelux, so Luxembourg, Belgium and um and and Holland or Netherlands, sorry. And that that that happened and they were like, what are we doing? We should be marching on on on Berlin at this moment in time. We shouldn't be going this way. um Yeah, but yeah, no, no, i'm I'm sorry. I'm tangent. Sorry, man. Really sorry.
01:17:19
Speaker
That's all right. So that's what a podcast is for, man. That's why we do this. I love I love tangent. Yeah. And it's like the boys is like there's always that same kind of thing. It's like you because I kind of watch it's a I call it a laptop show because Madison has a zero interest in watching this show. So it's like, oh, I i watch it like on my laptop while I'm doing something else. And so it's like, I'll get to that episode like right around that farm episode. I'm like, what the hell? Then I like miss something. Oh, no, we're just we're just we're rapidly approaching the end of the season. And it's not it's not a criticism. It's just a you can tell it's like that same kind of pattern of each season. It's like, shit, we got to get to the end. We got four episodes left. Like, let's we got to start connecting these dots. But no, I enjoyed it. I don't have any deeper. I hope.
01:18:10
Speaker
I hope we get, I'm glad there's one more season left. I hope we start wrapping some of this stuff up. I'm, yeah I'm interested to see where they take some of the prequel stuff. Cause I know like it's supposed to be like soldier boy. And I don't remember what the, what the Nazi ladies and name was, but it's like storm front. It's like, okay, how are they going to have like, is she going to be in it? Like, is it just going to be like those two just being just. racist the whole time? like No, it needs to be there needs to be ah yeah there needs to be a plot rather than... yeah if it's ah if If the spin-off is to cushion the end of the mainline series and the spin-off is to
01:18:58
Speaker
And the plot is more blood, more violence, very little content or very little story or plot. Um, yeah, I'll be disappointed, but I can't see that. I can't see that in that. If they're smart enough to know when to end it, they're smart enough to know that they've got substance for something else. I'd like to think so anyway. Yeah. I figured I hope so as well. Yeah. I'm excited for it. That season for the boys was.
01:19:27
Speaker
Good fun. Yeah, good fun. But again, like, like, you know, like, like, yeah, there are so many, if we're still around for the season six, go ahead. Sorry. No, I was gonna say, there's so many franchises and see a series that would be so much better binged. And there are so many that like Shogun, for example, like Star Wars, that I love talking about every week. yeah um But from a televisual experience, probably we better binge. I mean, I would say that, well, I spoke about it a little bit about about it last week. i mean I mean, the Acolyte, for example, massively different experience watching it back to back. Really, really, really solid stuff.
01:20:17
Speaker
um And, um, but that would screw us up. You know, that wouldn't give us anything to talk about week on week. So it's, it's tough. It's tough. I don't know where my loyalties lie on this. Anyway, it doesn it doesn't, to me, it's the ones that like, to me, it's the ones that like, what what I like to think about and like, uh, speculate and like the boys is not really one. I want to go in between each week and be like, well, What ridiculous thing do you think is going to happen next week? It's like, well, I think there's going to be a guy who's superpowers. He's got a really long schlong and it strangles people. It's like that's. Yeah, that's not. It doesn't slip in my head rent free. But like Shogun, I think that's one that I I think I need to sit with that more. And then Star Wars, obviously, I like to speculate. um I. and Yeah, she was like a ah good, a good wine. It needs.
01:21:06
Speaker
It needs to to sit. It needs it needs to. Yeah. You need to taste it. You need to taste it a little bit and before you actually chug it all with if we're still doing this before the final season comes out, we should do a predictions of like just real basic is like, who do we think is going to survive the end of the show? Like, yes or no. I can just go through each character but like, will they make it? Will they make it? ah similar to our buddy Scruffy's, but just super basic. yeah character Are they going to make it out of this? Oh, I feel as if we've let them down. um One of the things I have listened to as well is their end of end of season, the acolyte true, false um competition that they have amongst themselves um this week. And it's very, very funny.
01:21:57
Speaker
and um I feel sorry, sorry for Dave Strut. I really do happen to corral those four buggers together. ah But it is really, really funny. um And along the short of it, to give you to give folks the premise, they start each season with asking each other a bunch of questions as to where what they speculate will happen in the upcoming season. um And they all vote whether that will be true or false. At the end of the season, um
01:22:28
Speaker
their buddy Dave Strutt comes in and and and establishes who the who got the most ah true or false answers correct. And it's just a good laugh. It really is a good laugh. And as normal, it's um it's part of the Scruffy tradition and it's um it's ah it's a good listen.
Deadpool and Wolverine Movie Review
01:22:47
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It really is. Recommend it. Check them out at scruffypod dot.com. So Deadpool and Wolverine. ah You went, I think, a day before me. um I went to the first showing that we had at our theater. It was like 1 p.m. one
01:23:06
Speaker
Thursday or Friday. And this hasn't really relate to the movie, but I will, I will give a ah silent clap to the marketing and all of that for this movie. Normally in my little mountain theater, I am, when I go to premieres, I am the only person, if not one of two people who are in that theater for like the, the one PM shows, matinee shows. My theater was half full. Oh, well, there were people just like and I'm not used to that. That's what I like about my my junky little theater. It's like I can go in there and I can put my foot up, beat up on the handrails and just who cares because I'm the only person there.
01:23:46
Speaker
that I had people like close to me, like talking to me during the, uh, and it was like, I don't, what is going on? Why are there so many people here? And I will, I will say also, cause I remember I complained about previews for the Phantom Menace cause I went to the other theater, like down the hill. My, my showing started at one PM. They're like, I was supposed to start at one. And so. there were There was one preview, and then the movie immediately started. The the Marvel credits thing, the Marvel's credit lu or the logo thing was spun up at 1.04. I'm like, this is awesome. Let's go. I don't know. I have an hour and a half of previews. I just had to rub that in for everybody else to deal with a lot of previews. I love my little no tiny movie theater with the bad sound.
01:24:35
Speaker
We went a day or so after you guys after you and um yeah now we had a good half hour, 45 minutes of Pepsi commercials you know and then followed by a bunch of trailers for stuff that we'd already seen like but Borderlands, Aliens, I gotta say that, Aliens Romulus looks really, really good. Anyway, um Aliens, Alien Romulus, sorry, and other things as well. but um
01:25:03
Speaker
What about the film itself, buddy? What did you think?
01:25:08
Speaker
I'm not going to. I'm not going to lie. Like I. OK, so to clarify, a spoiler is ahead. If you don't. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, guys. If you haven't seen this, I'm I'm not going to like withhold spoilers. It's full. It's full on. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you, guys. We'll see you next week. Don't I mean, we're going to we're going to we're not going to mince our words now. We're going to talk about the whole thing. Yeah, um I really I really enjoyed the film. Is it one that I'm gonna like put on over and over and over again? No, probably not. But I don't do that with the other Deadpools. I, I will be honest, I that my favorite part of the movie was the during the credits, where they had the homage to all of the Fox
01:25:56
Speaker
the stuff that came from Fox before, and because man, they spent half that movie shitting on Fox and all of the the the previous films. I am and i was in floods, mate. I was in floods of tears. I thought it was amazing, at that part. And they didn't leave anybody out. They didn't leave any any of the franchises out. Like it was just, it was complete. And it's like, I, at first I thought it was going to be, I thought it was like a paying homage to like, just, Q Hugh yeah Jackman, but then like I started going into everything else. It's like, no, it was really kind of like paying homage to all of all of the previous films, no matter what their quality was or anything like that, even like darker the Phoenix saga stuff. it's like Whoa, they got a shout out. That's that's pretty impressive. But no, I thought that was I thought it was really classy. I thought it was really well done um in terms of the movie.
01:26:46
Speaker
um The villain. Stole the show. ah Cassandra Nova. I thought she was ah brilliant. i've I've never seen her in something that actress, but. Fantastic. I love it. I love, I mean, Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, like, you know what you're getting from them. Like, you know the kind of story in the movie, but the way they took this, I was not expecting TVA to be that much of a ah thing, but it was, I thought they did, I thought the movie went really well and it made sense, but that's kind of my high level. So, so a couple of things. um i i You do know what you're going to get with Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman.
01:27:31
Speaker
um I mean, the their bromance is pretty much publicised daily. But good God, I thought they worked there thought they worked their asses off. It would be very, very easy for them to have kind of relaxed into a very flippant or rather ambivalent
01:27:49
Speaker
Attitude when approaching this film and I thought they worked their nuts off. I thought they did a really really good job Q Jackman in particular i thought God you you you love this character. I know you've had enough, but you love this character um And I thought that the way that um Ryan Reynolds um gave his friend the the opportunity to to really shine, um I thought was pretty damn amazing. um You're right about the... Nova, come on, what's her name? Cassandra Nova. Cassandra Nova. You're absolutely right about her stealing the show, albeit I thought a more powerful antagonist was actually the guy from
01:28:40
Speaker
TV guy that was the yeah from the TV. and I can't remember his his his name, but he's again so. What's it called? Deliciously pompous. Oh, what's that? The stupid movie was on HBO for a long time that everybody really loved the about the family. It doesn't matter. The family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But only the guy. Anyway, Tom, we're we're looking at what we're talking what we're talking about. But but yeah, I mean, he's um He's actually yeah, I thought he was deliciously pompous and um and um
01:29:17
Speaker
just a complete asshole and um I thought him as a protagonist was was was was really quite cool. um I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. I was expecting it to be really MCU heavy. I was really expecting it to be MCU heavy. I was expecting it to be, and I think like most people when you for the first time you see um Uh, the first time you see, I'm trying to get the guy's name. I'm trying to multitask and I'm not doing, doing a very, very good job of it. But the first time you start seeing, um, people like, um, Chris Evans, Matthew McFadden McFadden McFadden is Mr. Paradox. Sorry. Yeah. Go back to that. Yeah. Chris that was the first minute you think of Chris Evans like, yay, it's cap.
01:30:07
Speaker
And of course he played Johnny Storm. So funny. Really, really good. Really, really good. And then, and and then, and then after that, were the cameos excessive? Yeah. But were they delicious? Absolutely. It was so over and so, um, gluttonous. It was fantastic and it was done, but it was done really, really tastefully. What I loved about this whole film was that while the TVA and maybe one or two elements of it was kind of a
01:30:45
Speaker
I wouldn't say a nod to the MCU, but you know, the MCU was there in that this was the universe that, that was, that was tempting, tempting Deadpool in the first place. The rest of it was a beautiful homage to those, to those films, um, to those Fox films. And it was just, it didn't beat you up ahead with the cameos. Like there were some that were like blade and an Electra who were like proper sendoffs. for for certain characters of like, you never, and Daphne Keen, I thought having Daphne Keen back was, was was as Dex 23 was really cool. But then like, it was mixed well with like, ridiculous stuff like Henry Cavill as Wolverine. And then
01:31:29
Speaker
frickin gambit was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. It was like Channing Tatum. It's like, I can't, I can't tell if he's trying to do a French accent, or if they're being like ironic about it. But like, I mean, there was there was there was the big big guy, the big the big big guy at the beginning with this with the shaved head. They he delivered a line in Deadpool two. And Ryan Reynolds broke the Deadpool breaks the the fourth wall. It's like, dude, no more no more lines for you. You delivered that really, really badly. And they continued that they continued that bit into this film. And then to add on top of that, you've got this
01:32:10
Speaker
what would have been um casting of of of of Gambit that never happened and hence the reason why when he says when they talk about um more adventures or at least something on the lines of adventures that I could have had. Everything could have been because of course he was cast as Gambit at some point, but it never actually made its way on the silver screen because of course they sold out to Disney. So I thought it was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. The fact that they never let up on the joke or like that he never stopped
01:32:46
Speaker
Yeah, just being full ridiculous as like Cajun gambit like I just thought it was the funniest thing ever because at some point I thought it was going to be like, okay, he's going to get like a cheesy death like cheesy gambit. But no, they just had him be that ridiculous or kind of like the Henry Cavill is Wolverine thing was like, okay, it's here and it's gone. But no, he they kept them around and they had him be full blown gambit. Just 110% I'm like, oh, they're just, they're rolling with it. Like, okay, this is hilarious. Just like the the ah the Johnny Storm, like, no, this is what he said. Yada, yada, yada. Then it's like, you thought he was Deadpool, like lying. Then at the after credits scene, they're like, no, they actually had Chris Evans say that whole spiel. That's like, oh my God. Like this doubling down on some of the stuff I thought was was really well done.
01:33:39
Speaker
i really ah Is it the most is it the most um complex and what i think complex and thought-provoking plot? Hell no. Hell no way. No way at all. was it was it Was it an absolute blast? Yeah, I had a really good time. And ironically, I'd heard some old friends, if um'm you know I'll call it out when I see it, some of our friends whose opinion I really respect were a little bit
01:34:16
Speaker
lukewarm about the whole thing. good You know, they wouldn't. I mean, i mean we we tend to socialize with people whose opinion we respect and because they're typically good and objective opinions. um You know, some people loved it, some people were a little bit It's all right. It's not the best. um So I was going in, you know, perhaps not knowing what I was going to see, but I had a thoroughly good time. And and most importantly, Lucy was with me. We had some popcorn. She was laughing. And when she has a good time watching a film that I want to watch, then it makes it so much better for me. So yeah, I had a really good time, man.
01:34:57
Speaker
I like that it didn't try to, like it was, I kind of went in with the idea that like, this is a, a buddy movie that is really meant to kind of capstone a friendship and Hugh Jackman's kind of experience in some of these other things. And I was very pleasantly surprised of how it turned out and like in how well it did in those. I did not go in with the expectation that this was going to be the big introduction of the X-Men into the MCU.
01:35:29
Speaker
Like I didn't tie all that other stuff to it. And maybe that's why I enjoyed it so thoroughly. It's like it. It did progress like the MCU narrative a little bit. Like I was surprised at how much of the like Loki TVA. What else called and the dumpster? we saw yeah Like, but um'm um but i it didn't. It didn't. You didn't need all of that. Like it was really focused on. Hey, yeah is paying homage. There's a little bit in there, but it's not heavy handed. I mean, we saw we saw the... you know Not that we ever needed it. We never needed we never needed a universe or a um ah medium ah or a
01:36:13
Speaker
We never needed a franchise where earlier iterations of that franchise needed to coexist. We've seen remakes, rehashes, reboots, and we will until the day I die. But the point being is that they started the idea of acknowledging some really good work that happened before with, in Spider-Man, in No Way Home, and they introduced Andrew Garfield and so me Toby Maguire into um into into this story, which I thought was really, really compelling. And that kind of thought, yeah, that's nice. It's a really nice nod to do some really good story. Yeah, these are stories that i really I really, really enjoyed. They didn't need to do it though. You didn't yeah you know you don't need to do it. It's it's it's a reboot. It's ah it's you know how many times
01:37:05
Speaker
in the comment in the in the king in comic books do they rewrite, you know they they say, okay, that's the that's enough of that story, let's just reboot the whole thing, starting from their origin story all over again, and then all over again 10 years from there, and then all all over again 10 years from there. So they didn't need to do it, but I respected the fact that they did it. What I really respected about this film was that they did it again, for everything else. Do you know what I mean? For everything else. For stuff that I really got shit on. For stuff that was very, very bad. Yeah. But also acknowledging the original X-Men films. The original X-Men films for me was
01:37:46
Speaker
in many, many ways, the very, very first superhero movies that I really paid attention to. We wouldn't have um going to have any of this stuff if it wasn't for those movies. No, that's right. That's right. As much as we look back on it like, we oh, those weren't great. like We wouldn't be here without those. Exactly, but they and they didn't have to do it, but the character they that they chose to be the the platform or the vehicle for paying homage to to these in many cases, iconic films, was flipping Deadpool. It's not Wolverine himself. It's not it's not um Charles x Xavier. it's not it's not It's not anyone. It's not any of the, should we say, premium um PG-13 characters. It's the um
01:38:37
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It's Deadpool. And I thought that was really, really clever and and really quite really quite beautiful. I guess the one thing, the only the only thing that I did find a little bit jarring was his relationship with um his love. um i i i i know it's been I know time has has passed, um but the fact that his relationship with That was a weird, the way they- Vanessa? Not Vanessa, what's her name? maria vaassa and Yeah, Yeah, but no, i'm i'm thinking I'm thinking of a character. it's It's Vanessa. I thought that the fact that love really,
01:39:22
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you know, love, their love between them was what made Deadpool defy all laws and at the end of of of Deadpool 2 for them to have kind of fallen out of love and hurt to have already moved on with somebody at work. I found that a little bit jarring a little bit, but I guess it gave him purpose in the end to kind of look for something to do. I didn't like it when I watched it.
01:39:55
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Yeah, but I didn't like that. I didn't like I didn't like the I mean obviously an awful lot of the influence He was I awful lot was being suggested to him um By Cassandra was was her suggestion and not not reality but The fact that there was even the smallest possibility of of Vanessa
01:40:20
Speaker
wanting more from him um after what he'd risked in the previous movie. I thought that was a bit weird. um I didn't like it at first. Like when I first watched the movie, I was like, i I was really hoping for more closure. Like I wanted that happy, happy ending. But the longer I've sat with it, the more it's like. Yeah. We have so many superheroes who are like a singular, they have a singular purpose and a singular drive of like, I've got to get my love back. And Deadpool was kind of cast into that, that light of like, I'm only in it because of, you know, this love of my life, whatever, whatever.
01:40:57
Speaker
um And I kind of like the the more time I've sat with it, the more I'm like, you know what, I like that he kind of him and Wolverine kind of found that purpose together. And I think that's what they were going for, of like, I don't have to be a singular trope, cetera etc, etc. um And then you kind of have that opportunity at the end where it's like, I did it, I did it for you. You have that honesty where he, he's very clear like, Oh, I did it for you. And maybe, maybe this will be more, but like, we are on different terms now instead of like, Oh, you owe me, I have to get back to you. I'm doing this for you all about love. And I'm guaranteed a seat at the table again.
01:41:38
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It's like she had the freedom to move on because once again, that's not his original. Vanessa, for if I'm correct, like he went to the different university, I did all this other stuff.
01:41:51
Speaker
Oh, I thought he went to... I thought he just simply went back in time. Oh, did it? Is that what it was? And stopped the event. Yeah, well, it wasn't multiverse then. It was time, because it was cables. It was cables time-traveling. Yeah, you were. Okay, that's right. Device. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was still a difference. Like the tables, it was an uneven playing field, because he had all the memories where he had the relationship, but he didn't have it. Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's like ok ok there isn't there is an unfairness there of like, hey, we fall in love. like It's a bit like it's a it's a bit like um Guardians. What you're saying is it's a little bit like Guardian with Star-Lord and with Gamora.
01:42:30
Speaker
Gamora with Gamora. Yeah. And I like that they kind of didn't go down that same path of like, Oh, I'm trying to force it on you. And then I'm going to learn that way. It's like, they kind of eased back on it a little bit. It's like, no, she's, she has her independence and like, she's not on the same playing field. Yeah. And he, and he learns that sooner. He doesn't like beat her over the head with it. It's. No, I found my friend. I found my friend. We've that's what's important. And hey, you know what? I did it for you. But we can we can figure this out. And I thought that was a. I don't know. The more I sit with it, the more I think about it, the more I'm like, it didn't give me the huggy feely kissy. Oh, my God, everything's perfect. And it's all happy closure in. But, you know, I like I like the more I kind of sit with it.
01:43:19
Speaker
Yeah, there's another couple of snippets that I really enjoyed. um Rob Delaney is Peter. I love the fact that They fought and fought and fought and fought and fought and fought and fought against their the Deadpool army. um And the fact that they adored Peter, it basically diffused. That's all it took to diffuse the situation, I thought was hilarious. I thought, um again, Channing Tatum was Gambit. I thought he did a really good job. I'd like to think that it was
01:43:55
Speaker
They agreed you've got to put on the cheesiest French accent that you probably you possibly can um to make this work. I love the the wink to the
01:44:09
Speaker
I love the winks, the trolls and the fan base with cave Henry being, you know, Henry Cavill being a part of that as well. I thought that was really, really funny. And does it mean anything? Probably not. But I thought it was really funny. And if it does mean that something, then then great. um I loved. I also thought that um the Trinity and Blade Electra. Sorry. Who was the other one? Blade Electra. X 23. And no, there was four. Come on. There was four of them.
01:44:50
Speaker
ah Well, i yeah, sorry. Let me just yeah, it was. let's let's call the fourth um johnny storm um but yeah um i thought the blade and electro you know with with wesley and jennifer that was really good i thought that the comment about um um daredevil being killed and electro not being that bothered about it i thought i was quite yeah it's quite subtle um but very very tongue-in-cheek obviously with a relationship with ben aflak um but yeah i thought that was quite funny
01:45:21
Speaker
I thought it was really, really well done. and it wasn't It wasn't gratuitous. And I don't mean gratuitous as in violence. It wasn't gratuitous in your face, breaking the force fourth wall and winking to the crowd. Hey, do you remember this? That was really really good really, really good. I had a really good time. the Sabretooth fight was hilarious to me. Like, because I remember leading up to it, everybody's like, I hope we get a real Sabretooth fight and then even commented on it, like, oh my God, people been waiting for this forever. And it was very Obi-Wan mall death at the end. Yeah, exactly. zza And it's like, like whoa.
01:45:57
Speaker
guess that's where I guess that's where we are in all the Mad Max kind of theming and just kind of talking about like, whoa, we can't be too on the nose. But like, yeah, bet I just want to I want to be in the room with like, Ryan Reynolds and like the legal department of like, what, what can we get away with? Like, can we need to get permission from Fox? Like, because you know that there was some stuff where they probably like did run it by, we're like, likea Oh, they're massive. I don't know if you stayed for the for the, I'm assuming you stayed for the post credits. If you did stay for the post credits, the um the um there was a huge amount of thanks to the Fox crew. Huge amount of thanks. I mean, they they went overboard with that. mean I mean, yes, it's taking the piss, but it's done with so much love. It really is done with so much love. Oh, goodness.
01:46:53
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That's where I know her from. So, okay. So the lady that plays Cassandra Nova is ah Emma Corrin. And she played, she recently got a Grammy for her depiction of Princess Diana in The Crown. I don't know if you guys watched The Crown. That's where I knew. I knew I knew her from somewhere, but I didn't even put, as usual, didn't put two and two together. It's good actress, really, really good actress. Yeah, she she cried I loved her depiction and just the the way she phrased things like where you thought it was going to be the end, like where they had her like with the helmet on yeah with the juggernaut helmet on and you're like in just the way out of that. I thought that was a good false ending and just so much growth and stuff came from that. I thought that was really good. And just her power play were freaking insane. I loved every minute of it.
01:47:48
Speaker
Fair play mate, she's but only been going for, what's that? For what year are we in? She's only been going for six years. She's really good. I'm out of the inventory. wow
01:48:07
Speaker
ah Yeah, I don't know. she's she's She's done really, really well. Yeah, six, seven years she's been going. Fair play to her. do you mattres Do you think we'll get more Deadpool movies?
Deadpool's Future and MCU Connections
01:48:21
Speaker
Or do you think this is the end? I don't know because and as unless he finds a way of um Finding himself in other universes via his connection with the TVA that there's he's back in his own universe He's not in the same universe as the as the MCU. So I don't i don't know. I have no idea I would have thought so I Do you want more? Okay, two questions. Do you want more Deadpool movies and two? Do you want him to end up at all in? Like I don't know what the MCU is like six one six. Do you want it in that you want to make a cameo? Yes other movies
01:49:01
Speaker
Yes and no. So yes, do I want more Deadpool movies? Yeah, I'll take a Deadpool movie. Do I want him to team up? Do I want him to be in a team up in an Avengers moment? No, I don't. And there's a reason for that. I don't think that i don't think that really strong superhero movies... um He's not a good background character. well and and Well, there is that, but also but also the characters themselves don't work in a team-up environment. um If I think about the way that Star-Lord is um in the Avengers movies, he's so much better as part of God as the galaxy and in their in their own films. In fact, the whole cast. So the the the whole the whole cast, you know you think you think about um
01:49:50
Speaker
You think about all of them. um There's something about a team-up movie, um whether it's screen time, or simply being but simply being written by somebody else. So, you know, the Avengers movies, what was that, the Russo brothers? And you've got and you've got sorry the last ah Avengers movies, the Russo brothers, and then you've got guard the Galaxy James Gunn. James Gunn can really, rewrite for the and really write for these guys. um And I don't... It felt very different when they were
01:50:31
Speaker
buddying up with Thor and Iron Man and the and the rest of them. mixing You're mixing friend groups. try to always work They tried to keep the douchery. They tried to keep the douchery of the of of Guardians of the Galaxy, but it didn't. It didn't. It didn't feel there's something there's something about the way it felt. It didn't feel right. So, yeah, answer your question. Roundabout way, as always, Andy, but both as always. um Would I like a Deadpool movie? Yep. Do I want, do I think he, him and Wolverine can keep it going? Yep. Do I want to see him in an in ensemble? No, no, thank you. I think i'm the same i'm and I'm in the same thing. I don't want to see them mixed with the reg, the rest of the MCU. And I feel about more Deadpool. Like I kind of feel like I did with like the fine, the last toy story movie where it's like, I'm okay if this is the end.
01:51:28
Speaker
if they announce another one, there better be a frickin' compelling reason um besides just dragging it on. Like, this feels like a good closure point. Um, but if you, if you, if you're like, Oh, don't just do it just to make money. Like, big Oh, we're going to bring him back. And now he's going to be, you know, paling around again with the dog and the other, whatever, whatever. Like there needs to be a valid reason to bring him back for a Deadpool four and not just.
01:52:04
Speaker
because i feel like it was a very good closure moment like especially there at the end when like it's all of his friends yeah and and yeah i'd agree with that wolverine kind of is able to walk off in the distance like i would even be okay if wolverine was done like even if they didn't bring back cavil or anybody else, it's like, if you just said these two are off the table, like, because I struggle with like bringing X-Men in and trying to mix them ensembly with everybody else. like Well, i don't see how I don't see how that universe, so so in my limited brain capacity, um I understood that the the Wolverine in Deadpool's universe or Deadpool's Earth was the one we saw in Logan that had died.
01:52:50
Speaker
and and And then you know there the Wolverine that we see um basically was was in a ah different universe and things got a bit fucked up. And then what happened was he then kind of joins Deadpool's universe um is like, but and I don't know, just a new Wolverine, but albeit the same same person, but a different person in the in the Deadpool universe. There's still no connective tissue between, well, there's still nothing to connect Deadpool's universe, which is still essentially a Fox universe, let's not forget, with the MCU. They'll have to work it out. They'll have they'll have to work it out. so if they are going to I'd like to think that
01:53:43
Speaker
If they're going to do it, they do it tastefully, I guess, or tactically. I don't know. ah that I don't know. I want more of it, but I also think that closing a door on the multiverse is is it would be a good thing as well at some point. yeah i think that I agree that there needs to be an end. I don't think that end is coming anytime soon, its because I think that's how Fantastic Four is coming. yeah butre we're getting We're giving out, we're givingre we're talking spoilers, so I never got to see season two of Loki, did you? I've seen half. Oh, shit, okay, fine. Because it's okay it's it's it's it's it's a bit heady, because I think it really kind of doubles into this, like, hey, guess what, everybody? The TVA is here and it's not going away, and you need to, like,
01:54:33
Speaker
It's kind of that filler stuff of like, here's some of the concepts and how it works, more branching, more this, how do we, what's the prime unit like what's the prime universe? What are the the tertiary things? cause i like i if you don't If you don't mind talking about it, I don't mind talking about it, but my understanding was at the end of season two of Loki was he was holding the universes together. That's his, that he was, his purpose in life going forward was was to kind of bring order to the timelines by literally physically holding, a bit like Charles Atlas, you know um physically holding the timelines together.
01:55:08
Speaker
um But I guess, you know, yeah, you're right. It could be. But maybe I'm making that up or maybe I've misunderstood what the what the ending was. We probably should watch it. I think that I think the TV stuff is going to hope. I don't think we're going to get away from that until at least the end of whatever this big phase is like the those adventures, movies, secret wars and doomsday. I think that's how doomsday is coming in. I think that's how Fantastic Four get brought over. into oh from their universe. Yeah, they're in they're in retro. They're in retro time. And so they're going to if they're going to get brought in to any of this stuff. The TVA and all that stuff is is critical to to all that kind of stuff. um And that's going to be batshit insane, like how they're going to bring that over and all these other things like I, I hope they they've got a hard task ahead of them of like how they mix
01:56:05
Speaker
all of this multiverse stuff and try to keep the casual viewer. It's tough, isn't it? Did you did you read Secret War as a kid? No, I will. No, I mean, know as see see I've been on the Marvel Wiki and read that, but I've not read the actual comic.
Anticipation for Upcoming Films
01:56:21
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OK, see, see, I never did either. But my understanding was that it was it was it was it was still the same universe. So, yeah, you've got this Avengers moment. But as with all of a lot of Marvel stuff, X-Men Avengers um Fantastic Four, if it suits the story, can coexist in the same universe at any one time. They don't really get into the idea of these of the multiverse. Or so I understand, I could be completely wrong. um But um that's what I remember when I was um grazing as a kid. I didn't didn't really go down the Marvel route, that's the problem.
01:57:01
Speaker
Uh, as a kid, that man was my, what did I learn? I will say, I will say I am, this is slightly. Slight kind of on same topic. I'm very excited for the new captain America movie. I don't know if you will saw the panel, but they were talking about how this is kind of really good. How they're going back to more of the captain, uh, captain America. Civil war and winter soldier, which are like my two, probably my top two. And they're like, Oh, it kind of goes back to that more, that more of that vibe. And it's like. I am. Winter Soldier is a work of art. Oh, I love it. Winter Soldier, Civil War, it it it's good. And then it gets to, it starts that ramp of the fantastical. So when you start, you know, they're starting to buddy up, they're starting to take sides, you know, Ant-Man becomes gigantic. it's It's kind of like, it's whereas Civil War,
01:58:00
Speaker
Sorry, I'm not Civil War. Whereas Winter Soldier in particular is really grounded, really, really grounded on that. It's a really good story. Winter Soldier is the masterpiece and Civil War to me is just like the cherry on top. It's like you made Winter Soldier better by making a whole movie about why Winter Soldier was so good. And then now you've introduced Iron Man and it's just all of this, oh, there's those two. You know what we should do? So good. You know, you know what we should do? Yeah, they are. They're really, really good. That and the, you know, um ah Captain America, the original Avenger, that I mean, that I love that film, because again, it's kind of a new take on history. I forget I love that. I love i love that. That is it. it
01:58:48
Speaker
Is it meant to be a trilogy? But that trilogy, for me, um is my favorite of all of them. that Those are the ones that made me fall in love with the Marvel before I was like meh beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. However, it's not my always my I mean, we talked about that last week, my go tos, my go tos. Sorry, I always. Spider-Man grew up as a kid. Um, uh, Spider-Man, um, galaxies, um, sorry, um, Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool. But, um, yeah, in terms of my favorite well-crafted,
01:59:20
Speaker
the in terms of the art, shall we say, the art, um, those, those, those three films in particular, I thought were absolutely phenomenal. You know what we should do? And we, I'm, I'm, I'm, we should actually on with cap in hand and on bended knee. go to someone like King Tom and find out what the hell we're talking about. Because I'm making half this shit up and I've got no idea. And he's the actually aficionado when it comes down to this stuff. But no, it was a good all in all a good film. I really, really enjoyed it. I would say um it'll be it'll it'll be on repeat in my house every six months or so ah for a while. And I'd say I'd give it a
02:00:05
Speaker
eight out of 10. Same. What about yourself? but my i've Bearing mind, I've just made this up. I'd give it an eight, eight and a half out of 10 knowing similar to what ah like the latest high potion where they're rating old retro games. It's like eight and a half, nine out of 10 with the context of what it is. It's like it is, it is a semi isolated movie, that ah the ah the three of a trilogy, but also the intersection into the MCU. It is not Citizen Kane. It is not the Lord of the Rings trilogy. It is not that, but it is for what it is. And within that context, I would say eight and a half nine. I i had a really good time. Is it perfect? No.
02:00:56
Speaker
um But as it acknowledged that it's not perfect, I think 100%. Did they get a lot done in the time that they had? i'm I'm baffled at the amount, the story arc that they were able to fall ah get in. Plus yeah all the crap that comes into it too. And the 45 minute fight scene at the beginning, I'm like, dude, is this movie gonna start? And it's like, yeah they they get a they get a lot into it. and it's I think it is a ah masterpiece in editing and knowing when to cut. Like if they came out with an a director's cut of like, it was this is three and a half hours long. It's like, it would not surprise me.
02:01:36
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but they edit it down to whatever two hours or whatever that it was. Eight and a half. nine Oh, you've reminded me. You've just reminded me of something. um
02:01:47
Speaker
On Friday, my birthday, um our buddy um Zack Snyder is releasing his three hour epic of part one of Rebel Moon. Are you going to watch it? I have to, I have to, I have to do it. I have to do it for you. I have to do it for our friends. I have to, I feel as if I'm doing a public service. Um, so yes, on Sunday, okay prometheus i I think, I think I'm, I'm planning out some time whereby I'll have a bunch of beers and I'll sit and I'll
02:02:30
Speaker
walk through it because I have to say, despite all the BS that goes with it, I have to say, um Justice League, the second version or the director's cut was significantly better than the original, which begs the question, why can't you release the original in the first place? But anyway, we are where we are. yeah Are you ready for this? Here's some honesty. Go on. I cannot stand anything Jack Snyder's done. Like it is. I just can't. I can't do it. Like I'll try. I will try to do Rebel Moon. Like I know you talk. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is no I i have a mate. This is this is for me. That's right. I have not. planned I mean, I have six episodes of time bandits to watch. I got to do that. I'll do that instead. But but the point I'm trying to make point i'm trying to make is that is that um
02:03:24
Speaker
Good God. You're invested. so you're you're going to do the You're going to do the three. No, no, I'm just, i'm just in i've thought i've I've got a perverse curiosity. I've got a really perverse curiosity to to to because his supporters love him. And for what I understand, the guy is actually a really, really good guy. He's actually a really, really nice guy. However, like you, I It's a bit like Michael Bay. I i don't necessarily warm to their filming, editial editing, and writing style. um But I've got this perverse curiosity in me at the moment that just to find out if there is as much of a significant difference, because apparently there is. um The original was meant to be um PG-13.
02:04:15
Speaker
And this is R-rated. There's a lot more bug and guts in it, and there's a lot more content that was missing from the original that made it PG-13. So, yeah, I'm going to give it... The whole movie's in slow-mo now. The big gander. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a bit long on the truth, isn't it? No, I was just looking at Box office mojo, and... Good God. Deadpool and Wolverine, first weekend. We are, what, first weekend, so it released, what, last Thursday, last Friday? And a we're not even a week later, and it's already pulled 496 million globally, globally. 235 domestic, 260
02:05:05
Speaker
ah Sorry, to to 36 domestic to 60 international. Yeah. For not for 96 million. So I don't know. I don't know anything about like numbers or box office or how that stuff like works. But like if I had to guess with zero knowledge, I feel like that's going to cliff like it's not. It doesn't feel like it's a movie that you're going to see. A lot of times like it doesn't have staying. Maybe not. I don't know. Maybe. But I but i have literally zero. Like you could tell me it's a if you say billion, I'm like, that's a lot. But if you're like, oh, it's 400 million. I'm like, is is that good? I think that's good. That's really good. But I don't know. yeah That's how little context I have. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I'm just looking at the chart. I'm just I'm just looking at the China numbers at the moment because that's that's a big thing. But does it have a global? Here's an open question for anybody who knows. Does the humor of Deadpool translate well to other cultures? I don't know.
02:06:07
Speaker
Don't I run? No idea. um
02:06:12
Speaker
We're asking hard hitting questions with no answers. Yeah. What we do, man. It's what we do. Anyway. Yes. All good. All good. And we have, we have, God, we've broken the two hour barrier again. God, we're the best. One and a half. Mate.
02:06:34
Speaker
Thank you very much for talking to me today. um I needed this break in my week, um and I really, really enjoyed it. and We should talk about what we're going to do for next week, but certainly I want to look up time balance. Certainly, if you're into it, I think we ah Do you take it offline? But Cobra Kai as well, I've only just started if you want to catch up on that as well, if you're into that kind of stuff. or on top ah but but I'm talking to Madison right now. She's like, you want to go you want to go for a hike? I'm like, yeah, I'll go for a hike. She's like, do you want it to be a 25 mile hike? It's like, well, wait a minute. Whoa, whoa. And then we then it's two we drive there and then it's a mile from the parking lot to the trailhead. And it's like next, you know, it's a 35 mile hike. It's like, whoa, I agree to a hike.
02:07:19
Speaker
Let's, let's stick to, let's stick to time balance. Okay. No problem. All right, buddy. Well, thank you very much again. And thank you to everyone for, uh, listen to us prattling on. And I'm sorry again, if I've, uh, taught. And I'll see you guys next week. Take care. Happy early birthday, Andy. Thanks for listening. show and talk forever Take us out, mate.
02:07:48
Speaker
Hey, thanks for everybody. Go. com but who what we've We've done it, done it, done done it too quick. Where can people find us, Sean? Justshillin.com. Go there. Leave us a voicemail or don't or listen to other stuff. Go find it. Go, go listen to other cool stuff. Hey, we have another cool episode coming out soon. Maybe, I don't know. We're we're hoping to record it about hobby stuff. Wish Andy happy birthday on all social media. Uh, thanks. And that's why we own the big bucks. Bye!