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Episode 24: Super Rugby & Premiership Recap and Champuons Cup QF & Super Rugby Preview
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It was an exciting weekend back in the Premiership with movement all over, especially in the bottom 3rd of the table. We discuss a controversial video & tweet from a Saracens legend, the teams that may have just been dragged into the Premiership relegation fight and the resurrection of Ben's Chiefs in Super Rugby. All that and more on this weeks episode of TFRY.
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Transcript
Introduction and Welcome
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody, how's it going? It is the Fancy Webbing Podcast. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. And we are back to our rightly scheduled program for just this week, unfortunately, broadcasting from outside Boston, Massachusetts. And we're back at our old digs and back in our old environment. And there's plenty to talk about. Home field advantage.
00:00:27
Speaker
I wish. Yeah, so loads to talk about. Lots of fun stuff coming up this week.
Upcoming Rugby Matches
00:00:35
Speaker
Tasty matchups all around between Super Rugby and obviously Champions Cup quarterfinals coming up and we had some great stuff this past weekend.
00:00:44
Speaker
I think you watched more than me this weekend. That's a shocker. That is a that's an accomplishment right there because I do everything I can. Right. But well, you were you were also traveling. Yeah. Going back to to Great White North. Yeah. Well, to visit the wall.
00:00:59
Speaker
Well, it was Miss Sharon's birthday actually today. Really? Oh man, I'll have to wish her a birthday. Happy birthday Sharon. Yeah, I think she listened. I won't say her age. I won't say her age. I'll be nice. I won't say her age. 60. How about we drink some beer and hope that it's not shaken up too much?
00:01:22
Speaker
Yeah. Nice. We're good. OK. These Boston roads didn't destroy it. Well done.
Social Media and Listener Engagement
00:01:29
Speaker
Everybody, make sure you check us out on Google Play, Spotify, iTunes.
00:01:33
Speaker
Review, rate us, download, subscribe, all that good stuff. Tell your friends. And you can send us an email if you want, and I'll give the email at the end of the show. I promised we would read our recent review, and people are nice to us, apparently. The hell's wrong with all of you? Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. But what's wrong with us?
Rugby Hits and Social Media Reactions
00:02:01
Speaker
How long do we have yeah Says from main mags favorite podcast funny guys, you know what they're talking about. If you're a fan of rugby, it's a muscle lesson
00:02:12
Speaker
that's nice that's far too nice for our fans but seriously you know know what we're talking about that's uh that's a lot to live up to there i mean you know i you see you've probably you've seen me get more into spats uh out in the social media universe but we want we watched a fun one together this week about the the the hit that jock berger posted right and i
00:02:39
Speaker
You know, it was a scary fucking hit. That was that did not look good No, but at the same time there were the reaction to it or the the overreaction to it was something else and then the Was it mall over start rugby started? Yeah sharpened at somebody telling them they shouldn't apply all this stuff like that
00:02:57
Speaker
Come on. Calm down.
Podcast's Honest Approach
00:02:58
Speaker
I think one of the reasons that, at least I do enjoy listening to this pod on my own too, even though I'm obviously here. I'm biased. You're right. I'm a little biased too.
00:03:12
Speaker
We don't have at least I don't feel like we give these like hot takes and we're trying to get no We're not trying to rile people up or anything like that. We're just two guys having a beer talking about rugby Uh with a little bit of a fantasy angle say with low pretend rugby mixed in there, right? And but these guys they get so up their own asses about Oh, you know, this is I don't I fuck
00:03:34
Speaker
Like you need to have have an opinion and a strong opinion
Analyzing Rugby Hits and Player Safety
00:03:37
Speaker
about everything. Yeah, that was a scary hit it was but the guy as long as everybody's okay, and it appeared that the guy who got rolled over Like on his not if you haven't seen it Right after it wasn't a late hit. It was perfectly legal just a big hit and a guy kind of kind of lands on his own head as he's rolling himself over right in the tackle and
00:03:59
Speaker
It looked ugly looks scary, but as long as everybody gets up and walks away. It's just one of these like wow Wow, can't we just say that that was that was fucking awesome And and hopefully we never see anything like that again so that nobody does get hurt Yes, but let's appreciate it for what it is rather than start yelling at everyone about it
Appeal of Rugby: Violence and Bravery
00:04:18
Speaker
I mean, we, I think most people got into the sport, partly because the violence and, you know, people like violence, people like carnage. I got into it because I was seeing some big shots and I was just like, and they don't have pads. So that tells me these guys might have some bigger bollocks than some other people. So I like these guys. Let's watch.
Coaching Stories: From Football to Rugby
00:04:40
Speaker
Yeah, and and you see that a lot with the in america anyway with The converted football players. They're always going for a big hit At the beginning of their career. Yeah, and then they realize maybe this is not a good idea, right? You can't keep that up for 80 minutes. No
00:04:55
Speaker
So they kind of yeah, I had a guy who was uh, he was um I I coached him for a year because I was injured um down in philly He was right. He'd been a middle linebacker for harvard. Okay, and everybody was Like gushing over him when I when I um came back to my old club and because he was a unit Um playing centers, he lit somebody up and kind of fucked his shoulder up a little bit. He's like, yeah I gotta come out like, okay, but
00:05:22
Speaker
You know that you can't go back in. He didn't know. And later in the match, he's like, hey, can I go back in? It's like, no, dude. We told you, this is how it works. You're out. You're out. You're off. You're off. You can take a minute and kind of readjust yourself on the field. But if you're coming off, you're off. You don't get like 20, 30 minutes. So guys got to kind of measure themselves a little bit.
Strategic Nature of Rugby Hits
00:05:43
Speaker
And yeah, you get the big hit every so often. But that's all based on positioning more than I'm just going to run right through this asshole because he sees me coming.
00:05:50
Speaker
Yeah, it's Yeah, I love those big hits. Everyone does But there's a reason that they don't happen every fucking play. No
00:06:00
Speaker
Yeah. Use your brains, kids. It works, I promise. All right.
Premiership Results and Relegation Battles
00:06:07
Speaker
Let's talk about the prem. That was a fun weekend. There's some movement going on here. Real good rugby going on. And some movement on the table. Yeah. A challenger appears for relegation that I'm not going to hide my happiness about.
00:06:22
Speaker
Some didn't didn't didn't somebody say something about them getting into a relegation fight possibly last week. I don't recall No, just checking just checking which obviously means that Jared said it and I didn't because I don't recall it So yeah, well done um there uh
00:06:39
Speaker
They lost a luster and Newcastle both come out come out victorious and now all of a sudden it gets real fun at the bottom of the table now We're looking at the bristles too. They lost to that they lost in that so let's yeah, let's just get ready to it Obviously Lester lost Friday night. You watch the game. I didn't getting a I was at I was coaching the kiddos Saints 29 Lester
Saints vs. Leicester Analysis
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15
00:07:02
Speaker
So I went back and found a screenshot from the match. It was right around the 34th minute. I have it at 34.28 for those of you who still have access to the match. This was right after the Saints, I think their second try with the yellow card was on. So it was the first try on the yellow card.
00:07:26
Speaker
Okay, and they're showing the that's what they called it the playmaker balance now I have never seen a broadcast show something like this before so I immediately got a little bit of a rugby chubby Yeah, I mean I've seen him do it. It's a really cool chart to see and it's rare at least so yes It probably is you probably this is something that I think Needs to be focused on a lot more often and now I'm putting my coaching hat on what I'm saying Yeah, really this matters to me watching good rugby, which is
00:07:53
Speaker
They're showing how teams are attacking, whether it's off the 9, off the 10, or even off the 12. Out wide, yep. And what they showed here is right around this time, Lester was 61% off the 9 and 31% off the 10, only 8% off the 12. Not much going wide. So you're looking at 92% are either 1 or 2 passes from the breakdown. How easy is that to defend?
00:08:21
Speaker
And I mean you keep most your fatties and tight anyway, so right so yeah, so that's really all they're trying to do There's no wonder they have three points at the time and a card whereas you look at the Saints and they have 43% off the nine 30% off the ten and 27% off the twelve. That's a nice even balance Yeah, and of course it's gonna be heavier off off the nine, but that's easier to get one pass away obviously, right? but then you're getting you know a third a full close to a third of your
00:08:51
Speaker
Of your uh Plays of your phases. Yeah, or off your 12 like you're doing something. Yeah, you know, I saw a comment on that probably got Crispoids fingerprints in it a little bit. You know hurricanes were good at that. Yeah That that that's what's needed in Northern Hemisphere rugby.
Northern Hemisphere Tactics
00:09:11
Speaker
Mm-hmm. I saw a comment the other day on some other rugby Twitter feed, okay, and
00:09:16
Speaker
where somebody said oh you got but you got to earn the right to go wide and that's an old that's an old thing that's like 15 years old yeah that's an old thing you you look at the way the saints played and it was basically like 15 meter line to 15 meter line they're they're attacking that width yeah and not over phases i'm saying like they start at one 15 meter line then they're they're making the tactical test at the other 15 meter line so like they're they're using the width of the pitch
00:09:43
Speaker
in open play, they're not going all the way wide. They're not, you know, trying to go sideline to sideline. But certainly, yeah, that's the difference with the way right there, right. You just said get into when you're when you're so ill disciplined that you just want to swing everything to the five meter line on on either side of the field.
00:09:59
Speaker
It's that's asking for it. That's asking that's easy stuff Yeah, it really is because you get somebody close to that five meter line and you get a big burly dude to shove them into touch and oops You lose the ball right or that ball is slow to get out and you get somebody running the other way with it. Yeah But when when you're attacking with you know that in that center channel
00:10:20
Speaker
Constantly rather than just the 10 channel you attack a little bit wider than that and suddenly there's space because everybody's gonna be concentrated right around that that You know first five or six defenders right get out wider than that and there's a lot more room this space Yes, and that's really the story of the
Standout Performances
00:10:37
Speaker
Saints win
00:10:37
Speaker
Well, you want, you know, you want space for Collins, Hutchinson, Nair Voro, you know, some of the, some of the loose here guys like, um, like, uh, God, why am I blanking on his name? Briseau. Yeah. Um, Tamana Harrison in the loose is, is probably something that's kind of scary for somebody a little bit smaller to see and go, Oh no. Um, yeah, you, you want that stuff. Who, um,
00:11:02
Speaker
correct me if i'm wrong did was ben young's not supposed to start this match or was he definitely not supposed to start it i thought he was in the lineup i don't recall yeah i thought he was in the lineup but i could be losing my mind completely i have it on my other computer uh i i that i uh
00:11:18
Speaker
Not that I was doing it at work Shit see I thought I I thought he was supposed to start but I could be wrong Harrison steps in obviously and does that does what he can but only so much to be done Saints go marching in and Saints are working on this top six spot at least and try and get back into Champions Cup
00:11:42
Speaker
Standouts just looking at this. I You know, I had a couple of blunders in my own fancy team Alex moon was not a blunder. No 45 Now that thank you. Thank you, and he's cheap as hell. Yeah, he is and he's a well-rollin stipe He's
Worcester vs. Bristol: Relegation Fight
00:11:59
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well under he's under 200. Okay, and he's scoring points this falls. Oh
00:12:02
Speaker
So he's, he's wanting to keep your eye on that. Yep. Yep. As long as he's as long, I mean, especially while laws is still trying to recover. Yeah. You know, once laws comes back, it's going to be kind of risky because they'll rotate. They'll, they'll, they're likely to rotate between moon and routine or, and, um, and laws. Yeah. Well, obviously laws getting a good, a good bit of the run, but yeah. So look good to me. Um, I got my green light, right? Rory Hutchinson 35. Yeah. I'll take it.
00:12:31
Speaker
You had a good match. Oh pretty much all the backs. Obviously you can see you can go down the list had a great match Yeah, clearly, you know every almost most of the back line had some sort of contribution bigger obviously the biggest bet Point point week of the week bigger with 60 shoe
00:12:47
Speaker
And I'd like to thank Bryce Heem for having to withdraw at the last minute because I had Collins on my bench. And also thank you to the Rugby Magazine because they're wise enough to, if your player gets sat after, you know, last minute after you've already set the lineups, they will sub the substitute in for that player. So I got Collins at 51 rather than at 25. So thank you. That'll do, that'll do. There you go. Awesome.
00:13:18
Speaker
The battle at the bottom the other battle at the bottom It's there's gonna be a couple of battles at the bottom as we go through the rest of the season here Worcester eek it out Josh Adams the the Grand Slam hero
00:13:31
Speaker
Now Worcester hero Sneaking one over I didn't catch a whole lot of this match but from the stuff I saw looked like this thing was wild Yeah, this one. I also did not yeah a chance to watch Again another one that correct me if I'm wrong Thacker was supposed to be starting wasn't he? Yeah, cuz I put him in my lineup, but apparently he came off the bench Oh
00:13:56
Speaker
I don't know if he had no, he was definitely supposed to be starting because I had because I have him and migwigan Wow, and so I was gonna so something must have happened It was gonna start the one of them where it was gonna start I decided not to put Thacker out at flank I kept him at hook. So yeah, he definitely was supposed to start now. He did he did fine 26 Yeah, so unless rugby mags just got this thing a little screwy, but which is you know? Computer glitches happen. Yeah, that's okay
00:14:22
Speaker
Who is it who had 100 points that that prop? Oh, yeah, I think it was Kalim black. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I don't think that's accurate. Yeah. So again, probably another oops, a little hiccup. But what's your pick up the win? Twenty seven, twenty five. And they are certainly trying to fight like hell to avoid the drop. Yeah. And this thing ain't over. No, that's for sure. Bristol play their play their skins off. But again, come up just a little bit short and maybe showing that
00:14:52
Speaker
that lack of experience in this situation. We'll see what happens. I like to think that they have the ammo in the tank to fight it off because they do have some their schedule the rest of the way out. Yeah, they have some amazing players. So we'll see. We'll see if they can rely on them to hold them out. They have some salty veterans that can guide them away from this. I think they have no quality to stay up. I think I don't think they're quite in that drop zone conversation yet, but they're getting there.
00:15:21
Speaker
I mean remaining they have uh bath away Okay, um, that won't be easy Saracen's at home Lester away Uh might be doing that that would be a big one. Actually, that could be a really big one It could be that could be a really big one sale at home and then away at new castle to end the season That's uh, that could turn into a real tasty one. So they get they got a um, they got some work to do they gotta they gotta find ways to pick up points just pick up points bonus points and
00:15:49
Speaker
whether it's tribe bonus or losing bonus point, obviously wins when you can, but you have to find ways to pick up points, and that's what the experience does in this situation. So we'll see what happens. And I'm heading over to Wooster now to see what they're... They have a rough one. I don't remember what it is exactly, but I remember having my eyes... I mean, is there really an easy road to hoe on the list late in the season? I think Newcastle is somewhat easily. Yeah, it's possible. So Wooster are away at wasps.
00:16:18
Speaker
Home against sail Okay, home against Gloucester. Okay. Yeah away against the Saints and then home against the Sarries to close it out. Oh, man That's a that's a rough that is a they might get a gift depending on what the Saracen situation is, right? Well, I mean Exeter Exeter, we'll talk about that. Sorry second side like
00:16:39
Speaker
Still pretty darn good. It's still pretty darn good and almost you know, I had it rocked up against the the Saints to starters Yeah in the prem cup final. So right so the Saris even if they start their backups That's not an easy. It's not an easy. Yeah, it's not easy out. So we'll see we'll see what that situation presents. Yeah coming in the season here
Gloucester vs. Wasps Analysis
00:16:59
Speaker
Um, your side piece against wasp and you know, it looked like for a little while, it looked like cluster. We're going to get, you know, all the territory, but no, no pay dirt. And I was like, Oh boy, is this gonna like, if they don't get pay dirt soon and get what's due to them and get some points here. Cause they were really, they really were controlling the match, even though wasps were ahead for.
00:17:24
Speaker
A brief period about 20 minutes or so. Yeah, they were what 11 11 up 11 they're up 11 zero. Yeah fairly early and and like you said kind of Not quite controlling the match, but certainly controlling the scoreboard
00:17:39
Speaker
Yeah, no, I'd say Gloucester were in control of the match, but somehow we're finding ways to give away points. So I was like, um, this could get really bad. Like if all of a sudden wasp, wasp, yeah, cross the two of them together. Um, if was all of a sudden figure out how to get back in this match in terms of territory and possession, Gloucester would have been in trouble. Yeah. But they, they, they raided the ship. Um, Cipriani, Cipriani and Heinz obviously got them. That tip pass. Did you at least see the tip pass?
00:18:07
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I watched. I did watch this match. This is a this is a humdinger for a little while. Yeah. That one in the little chip through like the one that was on the fly, you mean? Yeah, that was dirty. That was dirty. What pictures does he have of Eddie Jones? Or it was a joke of him. Yeah. Or, you know, who did what did he do to Eddie Jones? Right. Who did he wrong? Right. Well, I mean, it was talked about, you know, he just kind of
00:18:32
Speaker
Cipriani is the personality that'll challenge somebody like Eddie Jones and Eddie Jones doesn't want that so That's unfortunate, but it is what it is. You know, that's just how that's how it's running Heinz you start him. Yes Yeah, I did that contributed to your week very much so just a bit. Yeah having three guys in the 50-foot kind of works on the game week overall I
00:18:56
Speaker
Game week overall, I was, wait, what the fuck just happened? Get back here. Yeah, overall I was 137. So not great. Not that high, but you certainly weren't bottom. No. So Gloucester take care of business, 27-14, inching themselves ever so close to that playoff berth, semi-final. We'll see which one they end up with in terms of three or four.
Saracens Game Drama
00:19:22
Speaker
You know, yeah, they they could in theory still chase chase down the Saracens. We'll see what happens with that Um, so but it's they are certainly, um, looking every bit the part of a semifinalist at the very least Oh boy I Had my blood pressure jump a few beats and like you said I was I was in the great white north. Yeah, and
00:19:47
Speaker
Mama Dee was around and she was like, Jesus, you're worse than when you first, when you lived here. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, you know, I'm 12 years older. It's going to happen. Yeah. Oh yeah. And you were, we were talking, well, texting during the match and I don't remember how early on it was. You're like, I'm so done with this game already.
00:20:07
Speaker
Yeah, just uh, I was dumb with jp. Yeah, he's a better whistling frog. He's an honorary whistling frog. He's had better ones before. I think the, so three things in my mind stand out from his errors and it's the two disallowed tries. Um, the Billy disallowed try. I was like, listen, I'm sorry. Billy Varnapola is not getting stopped on that line. You have to consider that.
00:20:31
Speaker
I understand none of the law fine, but you know, come on. Can we actually officiate like human beings and not robots? Yeah, please. Like have, you know, use some critical thinking. Yes. So. Shit. Look what you did to me. But yeah, Billy Billy, if he's not getting stopped, but you see his is either a tweet or an Instagram. No. Vin prop limited. LTD because obviously people have been
00:21:01
Speaker
Shh shh shh shh shitting all over the Saracens for their salary cap issues. That's the name of his company that he's made with Nigel Ray. And obviously just a big thumb in the eye to everybody else that's poop hooing on them. And really, the people that, off track here, the people that wrote that article, they're actually kind of getting a little egg on their face right now because a lot of the Saracens former players are coming to their defense. And even some players that aren't Saracens players are saying,
00:21:29
Speaker
Yeah, I would love a club to take care of me the way natural right takes care of his players, right? I'm looking at that and I'm like why aren't and you kind of do see it now there's a lot of NFL players who are getting Summer like internships and and working at different companies and learning what to do past their playing years and Great. Yeah it it is It's it's
00:21:56
Speaker
pushing the envelope of the spirit of the cap, but at the same time, these guys are young. They're not going to be doing this for more than 10 years, and most of them aren't even going to do it for that long. We jokingly call people old men when they're in this game at 33. That's not an old man. No. It's an old man first for an athlete.
00:22:13
Speaker
But it's not an old man for real life. They need to do something else after this and you know, if you're going to prepare them for it, that's all the better. Well, shit, most most football coaches don't even prepare the players to play the game, let alone live in the world outside the game and let alone prepare them for after the game. I mean, how many how many football players end up broke in on the street and on the street selling their their championship? Yeah.
00:22:38
Speaker
So pretty awful. So they team should be doing that. Anyway, sorry for the decoration. Yeah, no, it's it was a it's just it was worth the point. So and then the disallow try for care and Sandra getting into it, you know, learn the loss, but that need that need just.
00:22:54
Speaker
The the play wasn't even anywhere near right let it go and i'm sorry danny care was being a little prick And they both kind of were so to be fair So but at the same time you show one the yellow you show the other the yellow and then you're just what the tribe be done You were the try and you say we're gonna play on Yeah, these guys were just being pricks after the whistle. So there's no penalty like don't do the whole oh, we're gonna restart the penalty this and then No, just say try you try scored this had nothing to do with the the try being scored. It was just two guys being being dicks
00:23:23
Speaker
Yeah, it should have been awarded. Anyway, and yes, and they talked about it on the broadcast. Letter of the law, yes, but that was just dumb. Yeah. And then the last thing that stood out in my head was the penalty that he awarded Quinn's when Saracens were on the five.
00:23:39
Speaker
And I think it was Rob Shaw was basically laying on top of the ruck with his feet up in the air and saying that he, I was like, he's, his feet are in the air. He's not on his feet. You can't order the melody. His feet are in the air. Look, we talk about Mario doing that a lot. We're just reaching right over the ruck, but he's got the long arms. And not that Rob Shaw is a small human being.
00:24:03
Speaker
But his feet were off the ground. So that's kind of the difference right and and doyl was staring right at it and and yeah, just Yeah, let's let's show some fucking common sense.
Scrum Refereeing Challenges
00:24:13
Speaker
Yeah, so um And again, so let's let's talk about this because we'll I wasn't gonna bring up before but so all right glenn jackson Who is the kiwi rough? Um, I like JP doyle. I don't like him
00:24:26
Speaker
Two of the best referees in the world arguably And neither one of them could figure out how to referee the scrum Referees in this whole thing are still guessing which is frustrating and I don't See, what are they teaching them? So what I see and and i'm also a a young referee who would love this kind of help is if i'm if i'm refereeing a scrum, especially at that level
00:24:54
Speaker
I'm relying on my assistant referees to look at those. Look at this prop battle. Look at that prop battle. And maybe I'd be, you know, because the scrum halves might be in the way. So I would look at the ones that are closer to the scrum halves. But a little bit of help from them. If somebody's going down, tell me who went down for, like, give me a little bit. Don't just say, oh, I didn't, you know, like, they'll go right to the arm. And some of them do, but still. And some of them will let it play out a little bit and then say, OK, no, that was a penalty. All right, we'll go back to that.
00:25:24
Speaker
That to me is appropriate refereeing if you don't know what happened Don't call a penalty either reset it or just play on yeah, I like to play on that option right possible like okay it went down and and that was one of the big things that I loved about the referee course that I took was you know, you don't just Say, okay. Did this happen? You say did it actually impact play and scrums
00:25:48
Speaker
I I really do hate the The going for the scrum penalty that seems to be prevalent in especially in the premiership you get a scrum You're looking for a penalty. No, no, no, no, I get a scrum. Well, this is my chance to play You know seven on seven. Yes, like why would I not do that? Mm-hmm and really six on six you take the scrum has scrummies out of it You can do a lot of work in that
00:26:13
Speaker
Why would you say? Oh, you know what? I want a penalty and then we'll kick and maybe have a you know, a shitty line out Yeah, play the game. Yep, you know, I love the way, you know the one thing I'm loving about the watching the southern hemisphere rugby is the scrum is just the way to restart the game It's not there's no there's not a tactical we're going for a penalty here It's just yeah, get it in get it out and play the fucking game. Yeah
00:26:36
Speaker
And as a prop, I would very much appreciate that because I don't really want to keep scrumming down. Yeah. Because what's the worst is when you have the scrum penalty. OK. All right. Oh, we're going to scrum again. We're going to scrum again. Oh, no, it's a scrum penalty. And it's like, just fucking get on with it. I want to play rugby. I want a car to get on with it. I do enjoy the scrum. Don't get me wrong. But for what it is, not for doing it for 20 straight minutes. Right.
00:27:02
Speaker
No, I agree. But the referees need to be better about managing it. And, you know, if a team is just asking for a penalty, that doesn't mean you have to give it.
00:27:13
Speaker
No, by no means. We'll highlight a few things and we'll move on. Marcus Smith rose to the occasion for the Quinn's though. It has to be said, he was ready to move that ball. He was ready to take possession of the ball when he saw that it needed to be done. He's a very young emerging fly half. The kid has loads of potential in any other match other than a Saracens match. I love watching the guy play.
00:27:42
Speaker
Other than that, and he's very good, I think the Quinns need to be very happy that they have him in one pocket and then laying in the other with who's got some experience to be able to guide the team when experience is required.
Player Highlights and Team Depth
00:27:54
Speaker
But when you need some flair, you need some fire, you need some get-go, Marcus Smith's got it, and he looks pretty good. Certainly a white shirt is probably waiting for him at some point in his career, I'd say.
00:28:07
Speaker
You know, I think he's young enough that he'll be able to surpass the the stalwarts that are there now And be able to piss off the coach. Yeah. Well, luckily he won't have to deal right this year So and and though any Jones called him into one of the camps So, you know, he at least he's at least giving him a consideration already. So that's a good thing for him and then The Saracens locks
00:28:31
Speaker
We're on fire. And neither one of them were named Atosje or Cruz. No. That's the bad news for the rest of the league. Right. Well, not so much because Big Willy's style is, uh, he'll be leaving after this year. Right. But still, he was crushing people. Yeah, he was. And he had the brace. So, um, he's, uh, that's a train coming through too on some of those angles. I'm like, ah, good luck. Check is sticking around after the world cup, which I get.
00:28:55
Speaker
He's not whoever Australia's next coaches now for the next cycle needs to get down on the knees and thank saris for Getting him back in a shape him in not back getting him into shape. Yeah Yeah, he was he was kind of a large load. Yeah, he was he was always a big load But now you got himself you got himself fit with a little help from the nutritionist too So that helps me in a sequel sealing line outs like it was candy speaking of a white shirt in their future
00:29:20
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I mean, he's got a couple of caps. Right. But I mean, like Siri, like, you know, he should. You know, I know Eddie Jones is kind of tossed him aside, but the next guy that's coming through will certainly certainly needs to take a hard look at Nicki Seqway and maybe be like, I think he might have got this wrong. Yeah. So Saracen's with twenty seven twenty and they stay number two and keep that home semifinal for the premiership alive and obviously keep some get some momentum going into their big match this weekend.
Relegation Battle Continues
00:29:48
Speaker
And another big one this weekend, this past weekend, Newcastle and Sale. And I think we were both, we both picked Sale, but I couldn't help but root for Newcastle while they're, especially wearing those jerseys. Those kits, if anybody has one of those kits available, I would love one. Just, you know, send me a message on Twitter or something, because those, between the stripes of, obviously, the tune, the Newcastle United club that they, because they were playing at St. James Park,
00:30:17
Speaker
and then the um the duddy weir the the duddy weir the the shoulder the shoulders those were magnificent jerseys um well then new castle for putting out some awesome looking kits um nodding to both obviously the where they were playing but also to some of their heritage and some of their um their you know some of their greats such as duddy weir obviously um so but to the game um nikky ganova came back uh didn't score a lot but it was nice to see him back and i'm sure it
00:30:47
Speaker
Helped their back line to be able to be like, okay. We don't have just not to somebody who had Much more than you need much more than that, but you know just to have to respect Nicky gun of on the other side of it people are just like shit, this is back, isn't it and Obviously gun of a was a huge help to them getting to the semifinal last year. I'm sure he'll be a big help to them getting guiding them away from relegation and
00:31:13
Speaker
They still sit and last but man, this is now anyways. This is anyways fight. Yeah, you know, it really is I Enjoyed watching Takalua too. He's he's growing on me as a nine. Hmm. I Seems to recall saying something about liking Takalua better than Mickey young
00:31:31
Speaker
I don't remember. I'll have to review the tape. It looks like looks like Dean Richards has agreed with me and gone Takalua. I know I think Mickey Young is actually hurt, but he's going to probably be on the bench. You can't bench Takalua right now. Good luck. You know, say it.
00:31:52
Speaker
Uh, let's, let's talk about, I don't know. Did you, did you see if anything came out of the Rob Weber, Calum, Calum Green, um, incident, the bite? No, I haven't seen anything. I haven't seen anything myself. Um, nothing obvious. It looked like fucking.
00:32:08
Speaker
Rob Webber trying to choke out Callan Green. Right. And got his mouth. Yeah. It's like you didn't he didn't bite you. You squeezed his mouth. Yeah. If anything, I thought Rob Webber was going to get himself in a little bit of trouble there. I'm glad no nothing was was given. Craig Craig Maxwell. He said, yeah, nothing obvious. And then.
00:32:24
Speaker
Of course, our our favorite cowboy said had a comment to the commentators for for television saying, well, you know, there's blood and it should have been a should have been a card. And I'm like, dude, did you see the replay? Because your player was kind of the jackass in this. So looking it up, Calingreen was cited for it. I'm trying to see what it was. No clear evidence. OK, he's going to face a disciplinary panel tomorrow. OK, so we'll see.
00:32:54
Speaker
Yeah, I I disagree with that. I don't. But at the same time, if there was a legit biting incident, then yes, by all means, if he did, if he did, in fact, bite him. Yeah, that needs to be it needs to be said. It needs to be there needs to be a reprimand. But right on the on the replay that we saw. Yeah, it didn't look like it looked like if anything, it was Rob Webber's issue. Not not greens. So hopefully somebody smart takes care of this without too much issue. They're so smart at the. Yeah, I know. That's that's asking a lot. I know.
00:33:24
Speaker
Um, but Newcastle win 22 17 and uh, keep this thing a fight at the bottom. That's for sure. Um, uh, popcorn ready. Right. Yeah.
Exeter Chiefs' Dominance
00:33:35
Speaker
Um, do to do Exeter and bath. And I didn't get to watch this one either. Um, look, I mean, it looks like Exeter just handled it. They did. Okay.
00:33:47
Speaker
It was I mean, it was a little touch and go to the beginning. But and it was just it was never in doubt. Let's put it that way. So like we were talking about wasps having having a leg up on on Gloucester, where they even had the lead. I don't remember if Beth had the lead at any points. But I was never it was never in doubt. Probably not more than we know that match. You know? Yeah. So it was a
00:34:16
Speaker
It looks like they handled it pretty well. I think we both were hopeful that Bath would somehow help us, but we also knew the reality of that happening was probably low. I forgot, because Nathan Katz scored a try fairly early. Oh, right. OK. So that made me happy, because I got him starting.
00:34:37
Speaker
What was it? Exeter scored two tries in the next like 15 minutes or so to uh Yeah to take control. Well about that It was nice while it lasted. Yeah
00:34:53
Speaker
He's a fancy asset that's not talked about right now because He's obviously been overlooked at this, but I have him on my team Rory McConaughey He scored 41 this week damn Let me double-check his numbers the last couple weeks, but I think he's scoring at a decent clip in the last few games and
00:35:11
Speaker
Okay, so since week 13, his scores are 12, 35, 28, 13, 41, so not a bad play. I mean, if you can somehow avoid those little duds of 13 and 12, you got yourself a nice play with 25 plus points every week so far. I mean, that's a good player to at least have on your reserves, because you still get those points. I know you're only getting half of them, but that's still someone to consider at least having in your 23, even if you don't start him every week.
00:35:41
Speaker
Um, definitely a good play. Yeah, keep them keep them in the pocket just in case yep So exit or take care of business 29 10 And they keep themselves on top of the premiership and lock themselves down A semi-final spot not a home semi-final spot yet, but they are the first team to lock down semi-final spot So you can probably yeah presume that they will do as such In somewhat of short order here. Yeah To the down under
00:36:10
Speaker
Okay.
00:36:13
Speaker
Well, I was happy I picked the blues. To be fair, I said Harry Plummer would get him going. I don't think Harry Plummer got him going that much, but it seemed like once they got it to Nanai, Foyani, and Rico Yoani, you know, that's when- I saw that Nanai run, holy shit. Way to go from like zero to 60 and just blow through the defense.
00:36:43
Speaker
But they got this team going, really. Islanders kind of put it in the wrong, let the wrong Blues players get a hold of it too often. Yeah. And they got burned for it. They got burned for it. Blues take care of business 33-26 at home. And finally, might look like they're one of the QB teams that aren't the laughing stock of the league, which is good. That's good. Yeah.
00:37:07
Speaker
I was actually somewhat impressed with Marty Banks. He started in kind of a pinch. They didn't want to start Gatlin. We talked about Gatlin possibly being the starter in this team, in this Highlanders team, man. It seems like I was very, very wrong about that.
00:37:22
Speaker
Yeah, he's struggling. Yeah. I remember watching him last year and being like why this guy deserves at least a good look. Yeah. And I don't know if the new environment or whatever. Josh Iwani is definitely the number one flyout from this team. Marty Banks did well. He kicked well. He looked to be controlling. Josh Iwani is the attacker.
00:37:41
Speaker
You know, he's the one that you want on the field when you're when you need some go forward. But, you know, good on money banks for being that old warhorse that just continues to produce when you. Hurricane Stormers. Oh, man, I was nervous with this one for a long time, for a long time. I thought for sure we weren't getting this one out of the fire. But Bowden Barrett,
00:38:08
Speaker
comes up huge as always as a you know an assist on a Geordie Barrett try and then just all for all reasons i thought he screwed up so he screwed the i think it was the last try that ended up being the winner uh for all reasons i thought he screwed up because there were two guys outside him and he took it himself and but and he had to fight through three guys but he got there i was like oh you would have been so much trouble if you hadn't finished that
00:38:33
Speaker
But it was well done. You still probably get a fine for that. Yeah, yeah. Among the lads. You're getting a fine. Yeah, you're getting a fine. I can't record for sure. The Hoos. Wes Hoosin does a double again. He is on fire lately. I don't know how you how are you going to sit him. But you also have I mean, Jordy Barrett played 12th in this match. You know, it's you just put people. You know, you find a spot for me like it seems to me.
00:39:01
Speaker
There's no reason not to if there's enough for that time. I mean, Jordy's talented as all hell. He can put him anywhere in the back line. Almost anywhere in the back line. And he'll be fine. He's enormous too. He's a mix between Bowdoin and Scott. That's what he is. He's a mix between the two of the other brothers.
00:39:19
Speaker
But the Stormers, this was classic. You had one team, big and burly, one set pieces galore. And they were doing it. They were controlling the game with it. And you could see their set pieces were dominating. Hurricanes were having a hard time dealing with both the scrum and the line out. But the second that it gets opened up, the Hurricanes were the better team. And they were able to hold on in the end.
00:39:44
Speaker
I was losing my brain watching this match thinking, oh shit, we're gonna screw this up. No Dan Coles. Dan Coles was arrested for this match, so that made me a little nervous as well. No TJ made me a little nervous as well, but they got it done with a big match coming up this week.
00:40:00
Speaker
Stormers get to stay in New Zealand at least and not have to have that jet lag bite them this time. And they also didn't have, that's Beth, that's Beth dropped out very late, confession protocol. So this is a little good on the Stormers for rocking up and really putting it in. They made this one a fight, so good on them for that.
00:40:21
Speaker
And Sun Wolves and Lions, this was played in, we thought it was being played in Tokyo, it was played in Singapore. Decent Stadium sounded like a good crowd, certainly a pro Sun Wolves crowd. And the Sun Wolves squandered chances, they really did. The Lions, if you look at the early on possession and the early on territory, this was,
00:40:47
Speaker
It the Sunwell shirt had to lead by a mile and they just kept finding ways to screw it up Yeah kept fun and that unfortunately, that's what bad teams do right? Yeah, this it's not like it's a talent a huge talent differential from from like speed strength skill. It's just
00:41:05
Speaker
I mean we talked about guys on this team emery parker bender heaver um God, it was the other guy that was in the back. Uh, Jamie booth. There's the little scrum half, you know, they have loads of it, you know, they had ranger he's obviously hurt But you know, they they have loads of talent there They just kind of find ways to frickin put it together and put it over the line. Yeah, get over that whitewash boys You'll be all right um, but yeah lines when 37 24 no, um
00:41:31
Speaker
No, Quagga Smith, Warren Whiteley still hurt and they still somehow kid done. I'll give them that. Nancees was okay. Tyrone Green continues to look not too terrible. That's for sure. He's only scored 12 in this match for me, but it worked. It worked. Lionel Mapou, old, I say old war horse. He's not that old, but again, you know, he's certainly a seasoned veteran.
00:41:57
Speaker
And that's I just I. I think we I think we have to I think this was a rumor last time we talked, but it sounds like the Sunwells are getting the axe. Yeah. And that's that sucks. That sucks. That sucks for rugby in general. And so I've learned since and I knew it was the South Africa teams that were calling for it. I've learned that it's all you know, you thought maybe a part part of the last World Cup and then losing to Japan.
00:42:27
Speaker
also might have been might have had something to do with the fact that Japan voted for France and Not for South Africa in the coming World Cup in 2023, which is the most five-year-old thing you can ever do I was like really really oh you You can't sans are you screwed this up? I'm sorry. Yeah, you really did. That's that's petty as fuck. Yeah. Yeah sans ours completely screwed this up if some wolves have a beef or and want to take any sort of
00:42:56
Speaker
action against Sansar and any of the teams in Sansar. By all means, go for it. I bet you would have the support of the entire Rugby universe. So go for it, guys. Get on ya. You deserve some sort of justice here because this is wrong. This is just wrong.
00:43:14
Speaker
So, yeah, I wonder how that's going to play out with their world that where Japan rugby will end up. Yeah, I mean, they might end up in the same league as the Western force. Yeah, but that's not. Yeah, I feel bad for them. Yeah, the travel for that. I can't imagine. Oh, boy. No, thank you. Pass.
00:43:32
Speaker
Uh, war toss crusaders. Uh, crusaders finally lose one. Whoo. Who saw that one coming? Yeah, nobody. Yeah. Um, certainly neither of us. No, neither of us did. I picked, I picked the crusaders. No, Ruchi Mwonga. Didn't help. No. That's for sure. But still, uh, yeah, they, you know, war toss, they kept it, they kept the territorial pressure on. That's what they did. They really kept the Tories territory on, on the crusaders. They were keeping it in their end. They were not letting them out.
00:44:00
Speaker
Crusaders, it was a bit of a slippery ball, to be fair. I think it was wet. A little bit of dew there. But they just kept the pressure on, territorial-wise, for the Crusaders. And the Crusaders just couldn't figure out how the hell to get away from their own line. And thusly, the Wartas didn't score a ton of points. Oh. Didn't need to. But the one try, they scored. And you see his name at the top of our points list there. It's a reason. Is he?
00:44:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So he's always good for shot shot to nothing. Yeah. From Foley and three. I think three crusaders guys kind of just like I got it. I got it. And neither one of them end up getting it and it falls behind. Well, he turns around and he's in the tri zone falls right on top of it. He's like, ah, hey, look what I got. But, you know, he went up there to get it.
00:44:52
Speaker
He did go up to get it and just cause enough trouble between those guys, where none of them really collected it. And he just fell on it. He's like, hey, look what I got. I mean, Izzy Fallow, you're a fantastic player. I'm not a fan of you as a person, but you are a wonderful player. You are a wonderful player. He shut his mouth every so often, or at least shut his Twitter. Yeah, turn his Twitter off.
00:45:13
Speaker
Yeah, it should be good. I do want to just, you know, I talked about it before. I do want to hit on the the Waratahs loose forward contingent. I think they're one of the more underrated of the bunch. Honestly, I mean, yes, everybody knows who Hooper is. It's not a that's Hooper drives the boat. Right. Exactly.
00:45:32
Speaker
Um, but you know jack Dempsey very good. Very solid player. He is a tough bugger. Uh, hadigan is probably the the one that probably needs to step up a little bit more and they talked about um, I think it was a few weeks ago. I think it was against the reds. He's not He's not as tough in contact as he needs to be. He's a big dude now for a loose forward. You need to be
00:45:54
Speaker
He's a big monster dude. He should be able to crash through a lot of tackles. And he doesn't always do it. So it is a question of toughness for him. I like Michael Wells as well. It's an underrated loose forward contingent for them.
00:46:10
Speaker
I think that if I think if Hannigan turns himself into a true six That is a that you know between Hooper Dempsey and him. Yeah, that's that's us. That is there's a very formidable solid That's a back three that I would sign up for all day if you said that was my starting back three So give it to me to see if they they can finally get that one little
00:46:34
Speaker
Little little thing. It's a little thing. It's really not that big. Yeah, so I think it's something that could really help them go forward if they want a challenge for a playoff spot Bulls Chiefs
00:46:46
Speaker
Well, hello there chiefs. How are you? Nice to see you again. Good Lord. Where you been all our life. You know, it's going to sound silly, but though the key to this match and for the record, again, chiefs win 56 to 20. The key to this match was the chief's defense.
00:47:06
Speaker
Well, yeah, in a way, yes. They possessed the ball. So when they stopped the balls, they made their tackles. Right. And they were patient on defense. Instead of what I've seen from them this season so far is, oh, they've got the ball. We kind of want the ball. So if they score, OK, no big deal. Then we get the ball back. So they actually played defense. They actually played defense. They showed up. They made their tackles. They worked with each other.
00:47:31
Speaker
And then that gave them more possession, which then they were able to turn into points. So it's one of these, like, you know, when they say everything starts with defense, this game, you know, for giving up 20 points, it still started with defense because yeah, against some of these teams, you're going to, you're going to put one over, um, kind of in the loose and, and, and eventually they're going to get disorganized because they're going to, or careless with the ball. But.
00:47:57
Speaker
They you know the Chiefs were just well also Someone you may have heard of Damien McKenzie He's okay, he's alright the some of the things he was doing were just like he would he would run towards a I saw
00:48:15
Speaker
one that just amazed me where he's kind of he's almost surrounded he's got his his defender squared up on him he's got one defender on the outside who's kind of hemmed him in on one side he's got another defender on the inside who's hemmed him in and he just steps back and just runs around all three of them it's got the speed it's absurd
00:48:33
Speaker
And his teammates are all you know with them in support so it's like okay as soon as he gets around him He's a little you got the overload because he just he just did away with three defenders by himself So you kind of have a little bit of open field there. Yeah, it's like oh, no And and and of course Brody metallic getting over twice. Yeah twice. Yeah. Oh, he could have had no I saw that. Yeah, talk about a Bowdoin being a little bit selfish going for that try himself Retalic had somebody some ankle biter on Yeah
00:49:02
Speaker
And all he had to do is lift his foot up and walk two more steps And he had a try and instead he just offloads it to his nine coming on the inside You get over letting him get the try. Yes. Well, he was being nice You know if there's any selfish play that you can kind of get away with if it's if you're one of the best Locks in the world, right? We've got a back again ankle bitering you at the five meter line. Yeah
00:49:27
Speaker
And you're going for your hat trick. That's OK. I mean, as a second row, if I'm looking for a third one on the day, you're going to have to really just kill me for the ball. You have to rip that ball out of my hands. It's not going to be a cut it out of my hands, never mind. So good on Brody for being a true captain. That's what captains do. It is. And he's a class act, too. And Alamalo had a big game. He had a brace also. He had the yellow card. So he stopped giving away yellow cards.
00:49:55
Speaker
Yeah, but uh, if he stops doing that he'll be he'll be a little bit better Yeah, I mean still still got a race. So not terrible Yeah, nankaville filled in for the last-minute replacement of lennet brown which made me poo myself a little bit I said oh, no, there goes my best midfielder. Oh But nankaville did really well as well. So um
00:50:15
Speaker
But yeah, Chiefs took care of business. I mean, can't say anything really bad about them. Roscoe Speckman got himself lit up again. He needs to learn how to freaking take a tackle. Yeah. I mean, granted, it was la la la. Fresh legs prop, but still like if you're a fresh, fresh prop and you see that coming at you, you are ready to just smash. And he did. He did. He did exactly as he should have. He lit him up.
00:50:39
Speaker
So maybe run at someone else next to him. Yeah, maybe don't go at that guy. Or don't go at him. Go around him. Yeah. So yeah, Chiefs take care of a business with a big first win of the season, 56-20. It's a big one to get Ben's boys off the Schneider and get them hopefully going in the right direction in the New Zealand Conference. Now every team in the New Zealand Conference at least has a win now, too. So I think that was the last one, honestly. Yes.
00:51:08
Speaker
Sharks Rebels. Quaid Cooper was magic, the rest of the team, not so much. I felt, you feel for him, it was a rough day for him. Robert Dupree was pulling some strings pretty well, his kicking boot was going well. And it was a good game by the Sharks, don't get me wrong, I feel like the Rebels let a lot of opportunities go and with that back line, all the backs that they have, they've got some
00:51:36
Speaker
I talked about, I was gushing about it the other week. There's a few names on this list, but there's still more. Billy Meeks, Tommy English, Jack Maddox, Quay Cooper, obviously. Will Ginnia didn't play in this match, but still, he's a big name. Kurt Betty, Hallett Petty, there's so much to love.
00:51:55
Speaker
About this rebels backline, you know if they're forwards can just give them the ball a little bit and it's it's over It's over just get a little bit of an edge forward. Yeah, give us front front football and see ya, you know, and you know, they did very well, so I uh, I'm impressed. Who's the one research? I just had another one in my head research, you know, yeah, they They'll be ruining this one a little bit too. They had a lot of opportunities. They look it away, you know 2014
00:52:22
Speaker
I have to say I thought I just it hit me the other week when I was were the other day when I was watching this match Last week when they were playing the Lions The commentators on the Lions match. We're not being very nice to the Rebels. They were calling him dirty I was like, ooh them fighting words, dude Yeah, like I know South Africans and Aussies don't get along but them's fighting words, bro Like you're supposed to be a professional TV guy and TV commentator and you're getting fired They're a little yeah, they get a little Homer ish a little bit. I
00:52:50
Speaker
But I mean, to be fair, the gear match there, the Chiefs Bulls, they were just kind of being like, yep, they are kicking our ass. Yeah, pretty much. Not much they could say. It wasn't. I mean, it wasn't enough to be said. Right. But yeah, so South African commentators try and be a little nicer.
00:53:06
Speaker
You don't have to be middle of the road because we know you're South African, but be nicer. That and don't call for the acts of teams that don't deserve it. Yeah. Make this a global sport, not just focus on ourselves here. Yeah, right.
00:53:21
Speaker
Um, yeah. And then as you'll notice, I'm being very nice to the South Africans right now or trying to be, which generally I'm nice to a couple of South Africans. Oh, yes. On an individual basis. Absolutely. We have a couple of South African friends that were nice to you. We do. Absolutely. Yes. Um,
00:53:39
Speaker
And then last match of the weekend, I actually didn't get a chance to watch this. Reds, Brumbies, we called for, we called the Reds might take care of business and boy did they ever. They did. They certainly did. Looks like Crubby was tearing up trees. Bryce Haggerty playing at 10 right now is doing them a lot of good. Yeah, Naivelou.
00:53:59
Speaker
It looks like Sirovi might be getting overtaken by Tate McDermott because he's done well the last couple of games. So I'm wondering if they're going to start leading towards him and not Sirovi. Not to say Sirovi's not good. I think Sirovi's got a little bit of that helter skelter and free flow play in him, which is great. But when you need somebody that needs a little structure, yeah, you want it seems like Tate McDermott's given that to the Reds.
00:54:25
Speaker
You know, when you have a guy like Caribbean and and Hagerty out wide, you probably want to get them the balls and I value I will you don't want to deny him the ball. So, you know, when you need to get the ball wide and get a little structure going and not be so free flowing and helter skelter probably a good idea to pull that guy in. So it seems like he's kind of claimed that for himself.
00:54:46
Speaker
Brumby's are I know they won the other week, but man they are on the show that that was a struggle for them And you know obviously they struggled here. It looks like they're struggling to find points And I'm not gonna put it on Lili Afano, but there's something going on in that back line that they need to fix clearly Especially since I have watches match. I don't know maybe Lili if I don't did have a terrible match I can't imagine he did he's a very quality player, but yeah
00:55:11
Speaker
I wonder what it is that's going awry there in the Brumbies. All right, let's do some pick them for a Super Rugby and then we'll go to Champions Cup. Oh yes, the first one, leave with your best foot forward, yeah? Hurricanes and Crusaders.
00:55:35
Speaker
I'm letting you pick this one first. Well, I mean, I feel like this is gonna be our usual bets We're at home I get I have to back us at home because they've had a hard time beating us at home so hurricanes I'm gonna go with the Crusaders because I could see them being they're gonna be probably a little pissy little pissy about What happened last week? I can't say I blame you for that one
00:56:02
Speaker
War toss in some walls that At home for the war toss. I don't know which ground in particular. It doesn't really matter. They're they're in Australia. I know that right. It's in Australia I'm gonna get the toss. Yeah, someone's only ever having one one one win ever in in super rugby away from Asia
00:56:22
Speaker
And where was that? At your boys, it was just the other week. Oh wait, why did I ask that question? Yeah, good job. Walked right into that one. Say it up yourself, too. Blue Stormers. Blues. They got it done last week. They got it done the week before. They had a buy in between there.
00:56:40
Speaker
As you said, the stormers are have stayed in. Yeah, they stayed. They stayed put in New Zealand, New Zealand for this. So the travel isn't going to be as much of an issue. So in that kind of keeping that neutral, I'm going to go with the stormers. You know, as much as I rang the bell for the blues the last couple of weeks, I think I think you're right. I think it's going to be the stormers.
00:57:04
Speaker
And it's going to be, here's the thing, if it's ugly, the Stormers win. If it's pretty, they lose. I agree. That is actually... That's kind of how it goes. That's good knowledge right there. Oh yes, here we go. Another tasty one this weekend, Reds and Rebels. I know who I want, but I'll let you pick. So, yeah, the Rebels are...
00:57:25
Speaker
They're going to have a lot of travel there. They're coming from South Africa flying over their home to New Zealand. No. That's not really over their home. No. Oh, no. Queensland. I'm sorry. I was looking at the wrong line. Yes, you are. Yeah. So they're kind of they're they're they're staying somewhat homeless.
00:57:49
Speaker
I wanted to, I really, I want to take the rebels. So I will. There you go. Yeah, I'm gonna take the rebels too.
00:58:02
Speaker
I'm still gushing on Quay Cooper. I hope he ends up with a yellow jersey by the end of the year, going to the World Cup in Japan. But I'm loving the way he's doing. He turns, everything he touches turns to gold just about. So I hope he rides that. Another fun one, Sharks Bulls. This is probably for potentially the best team in South Africa. This is going to be a big one. This will be a big one. And that makes it really difficult for me.
00:58:33
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I am going to stick. I've taken a lot of away teams. So I'm going to go with the, uh, the home side here. Sharks to the shock tank. Um,
00:58:48
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I have one concern for the Bulls, and that was Dwayne Vermeule leaving that last match. And they already are out Lude Diaga for a little bit. R.S. Naaman's not ready to go yet, so it's got me concerned. With that, I'm gonna back the guy that plays 10 for my fantasy team, Robert Dapria, and pick the Sharks.
00:59:12
Speaker
And to Buenos Aires, the Juarez against the Chiefs. Your boys traveling over there from South Africa. Yeah, I'm going to take the Chiefs. Yeah. The Juarez. Do you think Damian McKenzie yet fullbacks the Magic Touch?
00:59:28
Speaker
Uh, could it not be? I mean, I mean, the last two games, they haven't lost at least within there. Um, but just in general, um, having a limalo back has, has been huge, has really opened up their offense. And if they're playing, like I said, if their defense is coming around, they've obviously made it a, um, a point of emphasis in training. Um, if they're playing defense like that, then they're giving themselves a really good platform for attack. I mean, shit, all those guys that they've got in their back line, um,
00:59:57
Speaker
Yeah, they've got some good good weapons back there for sure. So It's hard. It's really hard to pick against them unless they're you know, it depends on their squad, but if Leonard Brown's around alamalo Yeah, I think yeah Marty and and Damien. Yep, so It's hard to pick against them on this especially I was gonna pick the Jaguars, but I think you just talked me into picking the cheats And is a creevy's on the shelf, right? He's he done
01:00:21
Speaker
I think he's done for at least this competition right because he's probably he really wants to play in that last world and I realize it's just Just a hooker, but but he's really he's an inspiration to that team. Yeah, he's the he's a captain He's the guy that they're looking to so that's a heart and soul guy and losing him is losing more than one guy Yeah, yeah, it feels like it right feels like losing half your team sometimes
01:00:45
Speaker
So I will put up I'm gonna put up my stop sign and my all my fantasy sits and sits and starts Tomorrow on Twitter. I'll have all the information all the all the data to give me my Predictions, but I will say last week I was three out of four between my stoplights and my green and my my stop signs and my green lights So I'm better. I'm better at my stop signs than I am my green light. Yeah fair I'm not as good as the green lights as I am the stop signs, right? I
01:01:12
Speaker
But honestly, I looked at those when I was setting my lineup for the premiership. Yeah. Because I actually set my lineup for the premiership. I'm like the super rugby. Winner, winner, dollar, dollar. Right. You're welcome.
01:01:28
Speaker
But yeah, using that really helped me make specific decisions around certain players. So if you're not following, if you're really big on these competitions as far as fantasy, pay attention to what Jared's saying with these stats that he won't steer you too far off. It's not cut and dry, but it's also, like Ben said, it gives you the guide
01:01:52
Speaker
Alright, I have a start-set question. I have a guy that's playing one team that's giving up boatloads of points, and I have another guy that's playing a team that doesn't give up that many points. Maybe he wants the guy that's giving up, playing the team that's giving up a boatload of points. So that's more to the point, not necessarily that.
01:02:08
Speaker
you know they're surefire winners like god knows i freaking missed on joe marshall the other week for a green for a green light and i think cat was on your um red light list yeah again this week but he got me 34 but like and that's the guy you've also said some of these are some of these are matchup proofs right you know and obviously nathan cat has figured it out how to get around most teams that can play well against props yeah so you know that that's that's how it goes there are players that are absolutes matchup proof yeah but it is a warning so you shouldn't expect
01:02:37
Speaker
Uh, uh, you know, the quite their average again, you probably expect a little bit lower or in some guys you expect a little bit more, but it's still still a good guide as far as, um, you know, making that, that last call as to, Oh man, I really don't know this guy or this guy. Right. Yep. That type of stuff. That's kind of, that's, that's the point of what, why I put it up. Um, yeah, my, again, as I said, I didn't, I don't do all the green lights. Roscoe spectrum was my green light less. We could get two.
01:03:00
Speaker
Yeah, not great. He got subbed off early, too. I think he got banged up after that la-la-la hit. There's so much you can do about that. A little bit of pride. A little bit of pride probably involved in that. Alright, it's Champions Cup time! Let's go quarterfinals. Here we go. So, Ben and I obviously play the Champions Cup official game. The big thing that I've been paying attention to is daily. My
01:03:24
Speaker
my yearly my competition on team is kind of garbage so i've been rolling with the the daily i think i'm near the top of the list one of the lists i think the u.s i don't know that the league would the the the yearly would be still active because it is oh it is it is it's gonna be active well then that's good that's good to know yeah it'll be active they they allow a boatload of changes right now maybe even unlimited changes or at least a boatload if not like five or ten as opposed to three right because of obviously you've lost guys that aren't
01:03:52
Speaker
You have injuries and you obviously have lost players that are no longer playing in the competition because they got knocked out, you know, stuff like that. I tried to set my team up so that I had mostly players that are playing this round. I think I have two that aren't. OK, I don't remember what I did. That was that. That's what I shot for with the last round.
01:04:09
Speaker
Anywho, let's get to the actual games. And yeah, if you want to challenge better myself, follow us on Twitter. In the daily game, and we'll put up the code to challenge. And you can just go ahead and give your best shot at it. I think actually the last round, though, you got me twice out of the three times. I think so. So that was actually well played to you. But for the most part, I think my daily lineups are usually pretty solid.
01:04:36
Speaker
All right, enough of that. All right, N. Burr, Munster, these are all mouthwatering games with the exception of the Saracen's classical game. It's not that mouthwatering, oh, but except they just played. So that's probably the most interesting thing about that. Anywho, Digress, N. Burr, Munster, N. Burr at BT Mary Field against the stalwarts that are Munster.
01:05:05
Speaker
Right I feel like this is a that's a home match as a That's it's not quite um, it's not quite indicative of the strength of the two squads So for me I'm picking the away team here monster monster Only because I think On form and with their lineup
01:05:29
Speaker
It's gonna be I mean it's gonna be hard for any of these teams to win. Yeah, except for the saris But only begin to that but but these are gonna be some some really tough matchups and he's gonna be slobbered you're right and
01:05:46
Speaker
I think I think some Irish players are going to be a little bit mad about the way Six Nations went. Yeah. Kind of want to might be a money to right. Being being one guy that I can think of off top. Right. And not that they owe any any response to Scotland. No, but at the same time, there's going to be some, you know, it's still there's a measure of rivalry there. Right. That goes beyond just these two. And this is obviously a pro for all pro 14 matchup as well. So true. They play each other. Edward just beat Leinster.
01:06:16
Speaker
Last week, I don't know if that was their B teams or their A teams. So I'll give you a chance to catch up here. I'm gonna take the Scots. Now, I do acknowledge that Munster are very, very, very experienced in this spot right here. This is a spot they've been a thousand times.
01:06:32
Speaker
and burn not so much, but I'm going to give them the nod and give the underdogs. I think they'll turn this into a hell of an atmosphere at BT Maryfield. I think it's going to be a fun match to watch. Yeah. And I think there's going to be a little bit of again, we're going to get to that in a second, but they're going to be the they're the Scotland team that has a chance to keep moving on. So that's a there's a little bit of pressure there and they can not up. They have a good opportunity to make it happen.
01:07:01
Speaker
I just am taking the Irish team. Right. Let's see. So it sounds like for this next match Stewart Hogg's gonna be back.
01:07:21
Speaker
That's big. Yeah, and both Horne brothers will be ready to go, George and Peter. So, Saracens and Glasgow, but we say, I say that there will be Farrell, likely Morrow, George Cruz. We still have Billy Bernapola last I checked. Right. I hope we have an actual seven that plays for the Saracens and not, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, Schalkeberger. You are a legend in your own right.
01:07:50
Speaker
You're not a good seven. No, not anymore. Okay, you just not your experience as hell, but man, you're annoying Those where you you You put ray at seven and then maybe move like Nikki out to the easy way I'd be okay with that out to six. I'd be very okay with that
01:08:08
Speaker
Would definitely be okay with that, too And I'm going with saris I'm just getting it getting that out right in front because now I'm gonna talk shit about the matchup here because all respect to Glasgow neither of the the matches were were matches in the In the pool play
01:08:30
Speaker
And I just feel like this is one there there's In uh, they talk about it in the in football here Um where it's it's tough to beat a team twice and it's really tough to beat a team three times Whereas to me in rugby if you beat a team twice and especially the fact that the saris beat glasgow twice in two different ways It's it's just a way, you know what? It's like saris were saying we can do whatever the fuck we need to do to beat you
01:08:59
Speaker
what are you gonna do about it? And I just don't see Glasgow having that opportunity and being able to take advantage of anything. I don't see any opportunity for advantage, I should say, for Glasgow to really make this their match.
01:09:17
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Because they can make it whatever match they want to make it and sarah's will be like, all right We'll do that. And then they have a lot of the answers. Yeah Obviously liam. Williams will continue in his in his place and we still have straddle and mate linden If you need to call on, you know good. We'll be able to back
01:09:32
Speaker
in his normal spot. I like what they have. Obviously, we could also see the likes of Lewington if he comes good. Wigglesworth is probably the one, eh. So we'll see how that goes. Sounds like Khotoshy's ready to rock. Again, Ferrell's good to go. He'll have a week off. I love what they've got ready to rock and roll for the men in black.
01:09:59
Speaker
The strength of the wolf is in the pack, and the strength of the wolf is going to probably be too much for the last go. Yeah, it's a terrifying thought for some people, obviously. So yeah, so I think Saracen will take it, obviously Ben does too. And let's go with the all Irish match, Leinster and Ulster.
01:10:18
Speaker
This should be fun. This will be another. Oh, man. Talk about a dang a Langer. Whoo. This is going to be a good one. I think this is being played at the RDS. So it's going to be one of those cozy rockets. Is that Aviva? Yeah. Oh, Jesus. This is going to be this is going to be loud. Yeah.
Anticipation for Upcoming Matches
01:10:33
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This is going to be loud. Might be in a little bit.
01:10:35
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The volume's gonna go up just a bit more and it's gonna be fun. And it's the late match too. So it's 1.45 here. So it'll be like six, seven o'clock there. It'll be pretty late.
01:10:52
Speaker
Yeah, that'll give him a little bit of time to lube up the Irish know how to lube up So yeah, that's gonna be even not the atmosphere alone is gonna be Amazing. Yep agreed I'm gonna go with monster. Yeah, I'm going with the champions as well It'd be interesting to see How what Ulster does as far as defending
01:11:22
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what's his butt um sexton sexton because again a couple of the six nations teams might have given him the keys to the locker here right and uh and that's gonna be lennster kind of plays that same way so yes well i mean as he as he goes often they do too right so if they just decide to to play the way that those six nations teams played ireland allster have a shot yep um we'll see what happens we'll see what they do it'll be
01:11:49
Speaker
It's going to be an intense match because obviously they're both pro-14 teams, they're both Irish provinces, so...
01:11:55
Speaker
I think I might see some handbags. Just a few. Just a few. It'll be fun. And then, speaking of handbags, Rossing Toulouse in Paris at that funny looking stadium that Rossing has. I mean, I think this is gonna be entertaining for the fact that it's on the turf, it's inside, it's gonna be a track meet.
01:12:20
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There's no I I have a hard time getting I'm giving around another word to describe it. It's gonna be a track meet Finn Russell Pulling the strings at 10 for for harassing Taddi Tamah is ready to rock and roll for them from what I understand Simon Zebo. Yep. Yep Zebo Zebo wheels. Yeah, and he's gonna be a little bit motivated because again He got to watch a lot of these guys. Yeah in the six nations. Yes, he did
01:12:45
Speaker
So it will be a lot of fun obviously, you know to lose have the likes of dupont and ramos and intimac and it'll be that they have their own contingent of their own of talent right so to say that you know Just throw them out the window is just dumb. Right? Um, but it's I think
01:13:07
Speaker
Rossing are just going to have that little extra to get him over the line, especially with the little magician Ben Russell pulling the strings. That's that's me. And just to bounce it out, I'm going to go to lose. Trying to put catch up on you. Yep. OK. You didn't pick a bad one. This will be a coin flip, honestly, I think. I mean, I'm going to be rooting for Rossing. But just for this, I'm taking just to catch up. Trying to try and make some ground up here. Right. Yeah, fair enough. Oh, man.
01:13:39
Speaker
Do we miss anything?
Weekend Rugby Schedule
01:13:41
Speaker
No, there's no premiership coming up this weekend. Right. Yeah. I mean, champion. Listen, if there's no premiership, at least this champions cup. Right. That's the one thing that was really disappointing. But the other weekend with no premiership, I was like, what? I mean, there was six nations, which obviously was nice. But, you know, it's only three, three of those matches. Right. You know, there's not the six that were accustomed to for four this time. But yeah, that's. Listen, there's these are four. But these are tasty match ups. Yeah. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, man. Yeah. Brunch the next day.
01:14:10
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That's exactly what it's gonna be. Oh man.
Listener Interaction and Clarifications
01:14:15
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Alright, so if you have a question, you want to say that the show sucks, you want to say that the show's great, any of the above.
01:14:27
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fancybergiepodcastatgmail.com. Ooh, I did want to do one thing. All right, so I have three screw ups that I've done recently and I want to apologize and I want to correct them. Just three? That I can think of. Okay. All right. Last week's editing issues. I'm really sorry. I did not mean to do that. I'm sorry. That's on me. I'm the one that edits it. And so when it sounds like crap, guess who's fault it is? Mine. So sorry about that. That's Jared, by the way.
01:14:52
Speaker
We talked about Joe Taffete and his trisquoring record in the international play, Equaling Keith Wood. Keith Wood wasn't English, he was Irish. I'm an idiot. I don't know why I said English. I knew he was Irish. I'm just a complete jackass. My apologies. And then it was Hunter that they had on the pod, pod, pod the other week. I said Thomas or Thompson. I did not do that nice lady justice. That is totally, totally wrong of me and I apologize to her and the entire women's team.
01:15:22
Speaker
I'm an idiot. That's my fault. Okay, so now that I got that out of the way. Yes, Jared screws up. It's not a new thing. The problem is you announced that you screwed up. Well, you know, because there's one person that's going, it's all it takes is one. It does. Yes, I screwed up. My bad. Okay. You're not perfect either. But you'll never hear me claim it. Yeah. Unless I need to. Yeah.
01:15:48
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I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to everybody else. I know you're not perfect, that's not news.
Closing and Future Content Teasers
01:15:53
Speaker
Alright, so yeah, email us, fancyrobypodcast at gmail.com, look us up on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, review us, download us, subscribe us, tell your friends to download us, they don't have to listen, it's okay, we'll take the downloads.
01:16:07
Speaker
And challenge us on the Daily Fantasy. Yes, challenge us on the Daily Fantasy. And like Ben said, if you want any little last minute advice, my Twitter feed, I'll put the stuff up that I did last week, including a green light and a stop sign for each League Super Rugby FRD and Premiership Rugby Mag. Other than that, thank you so much guys for listening. We appreciate that you all continue to listen for whatever reason.
01:16:32
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and we'll talk to you guys all next week. Have a good weekend and enjoy the enjoy the Champions Cup especially. Have a good one.