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9. Den regenerative reisen
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I denne episoden samtaler Jannicke Wiel med Erling Johansen om den regenerative reisen som en miljøbevisst måte å reise og være i verden på. Med sine erfaringer fra Tranøy fyr, forteller Erling om hvordan man gjennom å ta del i lokale prosjekter, kan få en autentisk opplevelse av stedets natur og kultur, samtidig som man gjennom sitt besøk gir mer enn man tar.
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Welcome and Introduction
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Welcome to a new episode of Holism Pod. My name is Holistic Forbund since the year of 2020.
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Welcome Erling. Thank you. I have gleded to because I know that you have had a strong engagement in nature, environment, and life.
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I didn't know what it meant in the whole time, but didn't know what to do with the environment.
Erling's Background and Holistic Connection
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First, Erling, you have a long background and you have very different background. You are in the works of Tranøy 4, which is located in Hammerøy in Nordland.
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I've been through my life in whole life. You became born in noga they all gets on not too least there for a sal for familiarovan nor i for longs from the
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but so one yeah I have reflected my life through yeah yeah our place in life and the universe and so on.
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was actually not aware how holistic form existed for a few years ago. When it got up for me, it was very natural to come up with it. Plutseless was I engaged and was ah e What was that made you I a
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Both in boat, and and and with them.
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Now there was a spider. I also drew music and i mean i cop very little four the good experience of nature. The day around, weekend
Impact of COVID, Family, and Military Life
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and those things. In addition to going to ski, going to tour, and going to speak, and going to go to the good things. So it has to be there. Life is moving forward, and you are in military, and you have a family. has to be a very interesting thing.
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But when COVID came, no covi com So there was something extra here, for from now that and mennesia, and this is what mean, to be important.
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So on a more, yeah, yeah what's good was the is art dis more butpoval bar or emir the uun he and to drop of sheet to like out clusterss so ah sa umva that some sorry to tale to and of mybu said I there you the intrason
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and intrasomia treatment when you leave ah kome and they all have for ah yet pet potato or the koshchekin or some raftcarp or or guide or so ah forly to tinaviranos yeah bla up putley let's talk before and ango chair calls how or I the the yeah no e whos the song and the yeah
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for Nordland and Valbar.
Regenerative Practices and Nature at Tranøy Fyr
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It was a systematic set of the regenerative. We will be more the was
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sore engaerto so so... There was something here, because there was a
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But not least with the beginning of this life on fire bio-mangfold. And just how people were out. I'm going to have a love and humor and knowledge around what's going and around the world.
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of at fear but Tell us more about and with exotic.
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I could just dream about it overnight with a Fyr or be out on the coast.
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How do you think it works on Traneys Fyr in Norland? First, it's a place, as you say. These Fyrs have been a was a little light on a old house, Fyrmester Bolin. But this is...
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um ah that the tricked po yo houndndra v you ah blair w left the often sixty era um andly licked poor poor ah go vituos fear mr bolin um and the the ah are um This is located in Traneø, in Hamarø. Right over Fyret is Vestfjorden. On other side of Fyret is Lofoten.
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There was more and in Vestfjorden, in Norvig, there was transport damma um so need the meters high, classic red, with a white stripe on it.
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che may you but and we straightport
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and So, lure was automatically automatically.
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And then, the fours were automatically automatically automatically. It's room, so it's visit. Also up a cafe restaurant.
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You parker and you come to the car if you do it. Or with a boat. People come on different ways. No one with a boat. We have a season here from May to the of meet ah ho top of themit no my si is mut for se song and and they opened for folks some ring or rob steel do on ah weha or
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the kobo was mean theres some What we have done traditionally to on Tranø in the south of summer. And they are really nice rest of the year.
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I think it's a big satsing people to come out of the season. People often set a lot of pride for them to come and experience the weather and the wind.
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Here it's both storm and kan in Kastan and nice solskins day.
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This is both natural landscape, but also a cultured setting where you also have some of the ur-norsk, right?
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you know
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so far below here. It's part same thing soing or the samiske culture.
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v opta da house saw or open But able to tell stories about good news about Paul and those types things. These are very simple experiences that stick deep and very interested in.
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Disney-opplevelsespark-like. We are all about the true, authentic, that that can also be respect for nature, culture, and local society.
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For me it's like this type of experience you can also own culture. To as tourist,
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they are or ah than lay for instance some toris atman course and some married mon samar you often know some to of ulitipiopli a brazilma not that I
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scott stop the bleed and the there but britishham ando and they arelais tora It's right. Based on that so so harvi are this this, we have engaged in the from the Nordland and Svalbard.
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It's in the whole-generated yeah but he again what shot singer this discuss cosmac with melbergreinoti vire some some but she fragment metify buts were mad no so and get We the a the
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and yeah and She drives Anne We call her Fyrinnen. She's rød-hård, fyrig, driftig. It's a good feeling and a nice type.
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ah so id be a goofstep me or valid it even but in the In the fall, she got the August-prison under the Hamsundagene for the community because she did so much to the Bolust and Blilust. So there is also a focus on the local population, and it's a very important part of the regenerative, and that it doesn't come out of the way. see some extreme examples around the world where the people come and just over the strøm and the other, and it becomes bit of a goal in the world.
Bio Lighthouse and Positive Impact
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This is what we are very excited about. We can't do this here a suitable resurgence. But this regenerative... yeah and acompun so sad sing and I called Bio Lighthouse.
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And it's there I've been little bit of inspiration. We came from the of the
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It's also a new-brotts-arge, can you say. Even if you build on the old both of us, and the have created this bio lighthouse, which we use as a metaphor. We are on a fire, so it is for insight and insight.
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it is very easy to tell us,
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and knowledge. And for and so far from the whole world.
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Where much has been out of the long time, so it's something to with... orgen river i Or to respect. then it's a relationship between the local community, the visitors, and the nature.
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but yeah So I've heard you a But this with regenerative life, I didn't just google it, but I asked for just to get a little insight of what it was.
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are spot on here.
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ah again that ratti i silly and
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you also did do have spot on her for yeah yeah and yeah um Bærekraft is in the way. International Health Sustainability, and FNs Bærekrafts-mål.
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Bærekraft, all of it is good. bariov a um to bit bad in coffeef day but that canus someone barov often struggle e gotbarric ho and citers so how does she saw me so among or more but polu wouldnen force It's so in for way to get up.
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or or And in this place there can christopher' story you broke or movie there yeah kns just lamo manat muunoul to forhode the marandro utamayura so that they mode hagenre is the know And then the old principles and of their rights again.
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for the ev labels from the url or We we also need regenerating on many plans. From yoga, meditation to sun, and activity are actually things that are actually up to things. But you need care of it build up well-being. When comes the life of the life, it is actually the same. If say it very simple,
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this is discuss seed in ah zlava It's like when patients can see the what their eye sleeve is and call mo at sta appra them all and or filter and also staed They should be better in the future, culture local society.
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They should be better in the future when the trip is going. the trip should also learn something, have have taken with them something that they can use be able to enrich their lives their lives and their lives.
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I think it's fantastic because it's clear that during the time we live in and how the world's condition is, we need to do more than just to minimize the damage protect things, but we need to have a positive impact, to be able to build and improve. It's fantastic if you can think that you can on your journey, you can be with to
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yeah not big yeah no one for the ira ah this onego plan the electcurrant tip not two and so do at foot of example ah yara faset <unk> for mayor kaioa vdi big or plusti ma get me to of where for example, do it difficult for the local i sorryi for a parna seen the for it stay da example theably so for touristness butingians there are fitness butttingians there
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the addly once clear of ba bo fordi um ah pre in the aafra or some country and skinran aa al rest of vva bestisttantelo operaal the saho even and and they out at the large sleep and they had about a big yeah st yeah hotels that are in the sol-and-gauge but that are not in harmony with nature.
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or they tank godmans some To that are positive ah you a
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There are many paradoxes here, and and so
Sustainable Travel Challenges
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on. There is something you can take care of, for example, Visit Skåne, where you have visited Skåne in our year.
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They were also on the experience now. They have taken a decision for region. If you can't reise collectively, we don't market for Danmark, Germany, and So it's a way to make it for a region for a region.
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and so had our um We also see reachable by train, but it's not so easy to see it. With both challenges with air and wind, and regularity in boats and boats. But it's just one side of this.
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challenge, but it's a you can something with.
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But there is no more to the whole thing. Linda Stoff for example is a Swedish, eco-filosof, French-life-filosof. She is very focused on the places.
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You get a place to place and
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If they also get sense of understanding and understanding of the and
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and ah said dark di i point gay sir both in the the this part of the regenerative.
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For it creates empathy and understanding. So we are very excited about this here on Fyre. And so there a back-tap here that is quite, how to say, dramatic and hard if you read yourself up on...
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On all the have used the a
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and know but you can see that me or some plustoson a or and they barric hoftti by these So that tourists can be able to get to get to the place and get to the place? Absolutely. And now it has been a focus on 50-70% of the place along the Norsk Kysh. This is now sunk in both through the visit, but also through emptyed toceiveent of plus lungs noquites and hara you know sunkkain as a body and no deerkin and menno soie nomer
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or boats, helicopters, and so on, where you can't get so easily. But we already have microplast and nanoplast over all over cloud, so problem is there. But a also things out.
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then It's a way to make it. We have some but the visitor science, citizen science.
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some them manu university here also so somekidar so and for oversee double so monfa we took it In to of
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montha then ho in fuu It's about 45.000 arters are in And and This is a element that both has a sort of...
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he inic or office stalls they detect elements from board to hollandlu It's a very very very
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ah it was then yeah um i up the lastted na hotel for minuteile but amfoer so yeahrati i come top perfo leader or i said and marrus fula a and this is your have but spend fairly me sent maou lili the and maha and and I'm interested in the future and what's happening around the tree and the So it's a or
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and different trees, and different plants. So it would have been very the the that the key in it. This the need for the need, and it has a meaning. I'm sure you could be able to do some arters that are not registered ArtsData Bank.
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or a head sickco butu environment or kolego tosum summi are regre andnoy otobampkin It's about training the way you say.
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Very spenent. I see for my part that the interest I have for the little nature, which is not about when I'm on a tour, I'll come to a hytta and buy a bottle, but that it's more about seeing the changes in nature. Now the bladene, this farge, in relation to the previous week, had they had another one?
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Or, oh, no, Guril, is it a stær here now? It was for no one week since then. and a new ful, and what was sound there, and a little bit of a cat. And so get great glede these small experiences in nature. And I feel that this has taken me to near nature and created another type of engagement and not least glede over the little.
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And I have wondered how I'm going to be older, I'm going to be more excited about the small things. men some men scar of player you are known bena no this more opplay business mar leftang yeah But for them.
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That's a part of my life, it gives me so much yeah giliada also and trireia boy a and a And there are ship and the youngstone I on the and
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or old player of It's real. think if we are now... There are no more than that is known as a No one is on the one idea i so up ri and some so race some for muslim race of for all lives some race for inspirations the onslaughs of their own and it ah got some It's a part of the life we think will be able to do. then these simple problems. We notice it from time to time. These small wanderings.
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Sit around the tell, maybe pluck, some said, urt and vex and tang. Lage a supper, a tea.
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All right. Many are concerned about how people live here. How they lived before. Also, in this case, the Fyre. How did the Fyre live? How did the women and women and women go to school? How did they learn? All these simple stories, which also gives gled and the attention. It's about train the blick.
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anything at randomably yeah As we talked about it, when you first start to or so small and small.
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But there are also some of these men's meetups,
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Heldigvis. In to not run wall this of
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So you can say that it's a little community. and mr who cut it on somewhere and and many kiss on some ahre barcelo and ala del a lo foot no on board ah the archiblis on cleverli or that de or thank government for research for marketing us on not morning But the so done it.
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Many people are now so that hope first a bit of or say hello you and we firstnied the mayor wolf spend in and out ru fosk when what the vir it's on f kivosco and to get these enkle experiences.
EU Biodiversity Projects and Global Regenerative Practices
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There is a point We are also in EU-søknader, and there is lot of biodiversity.
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diversity and men men men manyyan also this inkler ah so But
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But there comes also stories and stories. And there is no with... and that com also hiss story for telling ainna so
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or die die didn't what yeah or get rid of the fruit. You can be a bit milder if you see ah so less and can you believe it and what falsely the me known serve 80% of the last year. But it's a plant that's like, now it's been a more than two years ago.
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What's the problem with this? We have decided that it's not a It's more than a lot for everyone. so We must have We must have a much love. We must have a much love.
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We must have much love. We must have a much love. We must have a much love. We must have much love. We must be able to ensure empathy that is Or So
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then you will spill or i we yeah ah lit calggenmo so so on the ank ki go
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It's very nice. I'm sitting and about a trip I'm going to Morocco. You say this with... Okay, we're going to fly, and it's going to be CO2-slipped, can find a bad way to it. the and yogagar of two it is e a ah about that if you will suffer ah ah not pre value or fin law some I the
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This work with local society, I think it's <unk>no ver rava not to learn abarre verismo ah some loro of the fras name mean it fueler for a saybo come ah v the fury or awesome yeah and laten things some miassiswa muham if you would ah he the dash lita the divide guides some stucke ...strå ned i et lite hull for å vise oss at her nede bor skorpionene under bakken.
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men at man får se litt av naturlivet som er der, og at man tar tid til å stoppe opp. check what these small holes. Stopping up with the little. so but of vdeil Another thing I
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And there I bought a fantastic Moroccan fat that I used to serve some salt. And to buy something locally, which was so very nice, was a big deal. chi and the ro car some rushho try to andliada one this thingss back parallel by in them in the collective that raes de ki or en some one sir fixed inco divide it its that some phenomenon d how the big up but collective oning or log um predictors And and
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here Argonnøtt og Argonolje. De had both made of products and a type of pianetsmør-like stuff that was made by Argonnøtter.
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It was very nice to see how local women worked. And to buy these products that were made on the street. my la it poor the otherba So would you say that it would be And I think that this is key to this. To help us to help small local communities live. That people there can survive and drive with their own.
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ah small lookout something con conle come overlay for that then Not only in the culture, tradition, art, bosetting, but it creates life. It creates life.
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this may be sort of balance effect on CO2-belastning. why through that thought so more there lithians but long sa mayor say two blossoming of our eyes ah also and Many things should not be pregated when they are going to create something. We were talking about this with the fear and the tongue. But also the same thing. We are not going to turn on. We are in a completely different conversation now.
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nuno summaat uptata other reagan ratiov hell had toismmo on yeah you already sallo and months alo i love being a grial ah andcoioatti the islands of coherence are of watercarpu small like two rosmo some fun some some air complex the point we sell on some sort water board yeah
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but you from We see it on Blue Zones, the The social dimension is the most important thing.
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it there or authenticimation zo virus now in um learninging sphere feel is formlas na at that states conference at the to
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yeah thank you mayor or I say again that ra tears and awesome betray you ah i'm really stering it for telllo ah that we' know actually some style you think for the world, the individual.
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oh I think that
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and consumerism to the more experience-based, and learn to set the local, the little la of the and the simple way that we see the right the right in it.
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What do you for this in our world?
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Some of us are it. but And we are overmoded. And while we talk about it, I think about One thing is to and be in nature. I have to have a choice to go out.
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For example, for two weeks ago we had very fine regenerative dialogue on House of Consciousness in Oslo. There were 70 people from all the world, the fag, the field and so on. For my part, it was a clear sign of my reise.
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We talked about it in the this. um ah For example, Esalen, Fritjörg Capra, and a become more and more...
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or ah so how you um ble me romemer what's got to here
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It's more documentable, it's more evidence-based around all this. Over 2000s and ah the com rappo so
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but have to solve ah com nobel case or da com mi mi and theres some conil but a little around or and
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For my part, I take House of Consciousness as an example. Midt in Oslo, there are people Some are in charge of the very I have very much faith in that it's happening now in our time.
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and For don't come without any, even all these things we talk about, and menneskelige and developing. We live in a system that can be quite a bit of a need, where the factors are high, the society sits still in the process, and all this. So we don't come out of that there systems, so that the
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many countries, and for the sake EU, but also globally. New Zealand is very far on the regenerative, for example. There are still a lot of EU projects that go in this direction.
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It's a change and away from. be rote a
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yeah I see around my environment where I'm a yoga teacher, that there are many people who both access to attention and or that you see that the for for to search for the easy and find the joy in it. I'm completely honest.
Conclusion and Future Collaborations
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We will end up with our conversation. It was very inspiring, Erling. I hope but upcon forlet some to later podcasted mad I with you. are and for of as men on the earth. Very good. We'll talk again.
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