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16. Skogsbad og vårt forhold til naturen
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I denne episoden snakker Jannicke Wiel med skogsbadveileder Nina Alida Nordbø om hvordan skogsbad utføres, hvilke helsebringende effekter det har, og hvordan det kan gi oss mennesker et nærere forhold både til oss selv og naturen. Kanskje kan skogsbad være med å bidra til at vi mennesker får økt engasjement og ansvarsfølelse for naturen som vi er en del av?
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Introduction of Nina Alida Norbø
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Welcome to a new episode Holism-podden. Welcome Nina Alida Norbø, who is with us today. Thank you for me. of
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school game or not even learn know that many are is.
Leadership in Skogsbadguide
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But you are Skogsbadguide, and you are leading for the Norsk Forbund with Skogsbadveiledere. Would you say something about skogsbad is? For it is not to go out the skog and bathe in stone.
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It's something else. Many think that. ahmes go the bar i schoolgan was very sha fore the the um and more baal of all for there so there come near We the
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or the air in the gumbopoes kind and you say no no then theyla poor teali o guitar though len they call of vi bun or the air And in the effect nature has on us.
Japan's Influence on Nature's Health Benefits
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I think that Japan has been very early out there, for now it's been talking about this health and bring them out in nature, and many people have known about it.
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But what we do is to Go in is still head or in and the of
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How is and iyosa the I Canada. And there are lot of research on it. So now we know that it has a strong effect on us to contact with nature. And it's a pretty and very good experience. It's not easy to be able to be flink.
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of playevvan so the goal is michel ofle getdaar I think many of
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or they are very o in a turn when condeci and ali ma onwardudankooks baring shide chira they o ah go once some dus stood i let go up upon and we get some hedge dus to in are born and good at?
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What is the bathing for the difference from the skogs? It's very good question. It's something many people ask. think the big difference is fashion yeah The Skogsbad is a form for mindfulness.
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The place here and now. So it's what we're doing from start to start. To be able to able to get to place where we're just here and now. It's time we're going with whole time.
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which helps us to and after gay you put to un say off the non commonth harm we have for harmy bar no um but but a skogsbad can actually go on the same If have with someone who has for example, have movements, then it can be shift focus.
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Also, there are no one who holds the room. so not the the order for hol me was tear so not they for example goputu yourrea nasonti delo har pun pro tea delohar maho and not all sick to them dash and then or levis asook spot It's just you and for instead of slow and slow. We can be more a and and way in nature.
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I'm in a skogsbad. am'm overhead i'm fe gang yava but sco spot sova demi and venne nama had The
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She's professor in the life life of the school in Volda. She's done doctor's job lykkesykology. I've known Helga many years ago,
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She's been on field tour with her. She's a field-fueler, we have sovated out of the and
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We went out in the skog, and she said she'd go very short. She'd go up maximum 200 meters. um maximum 200 meters. It was very unlike all the experiences I had with her before.
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So we parked the and was not a small skog, but we went into the that ah or lumma paul day sta
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my little bit more do something. Here was just to sense.
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so vibri and team me two paul baror and or snooze p thats there there or top or that or but its sper bleed etc legiman ned and ratrea they help the demand must suppli or in the allowed for our institution volly manly vi gotke butalloa so and fu
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three kroner. It was so interesting to have time to just sit and see on the tree and look at what it was with the tree, whether it was a fugle-ready there, whether it was sickness in the tree.
Introspection and Connection with Nature
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It took me to think a lot about both the
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which was really a lot of things that were not really good with the tree but it was like I got chance to think about something that was just about life just by being in contact the tree and it was very important for me to see that I can take information from nature on a completely different way if I'm saying it's very nice to hear from when you tell me about and when I came to and un dos of armusk cook spingan
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let say i throw your woman bar ordo off there be hal thing it's a chief believe i have a but history photo those my box um the royal and then i think people else too saw no of' how in mustook spell that no other for sit atre no li hall tim ah possibly not only some most soon getting ne one no air in a special state of love and
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But to you are part of nature, that we are a part of nature, and there was a shan not of air and dele armortu and of mayor anne dela mudoyou with all the different kinds of organisms that live on this planet, in a so, like, kretsl of all the wind on the cloud,
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which is moving in the the cloud, all that living here and dying, is with the kretsch of forsettover and they love you no woman milieu rotelo but they also for lia neton dr up ta me that the
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that we are Mother Jor and the
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They have contact. When we are fort and are in full movement, we don't come in such type of situation. But it's so that it is for everyone.
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It's very, very, very good guide in experiences. that can I'm here, here. here. I'm here. here.
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I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. here. I'm here. here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm I'm here. I'm here. here. I'm here. here. I'm here. here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. here. here. I'm here. here. I'm I'm here. I'm here. here. here You can actually, when you are lazy or are sliten, go to a place in nature or go to a tree that is maybe a friend of your life get support and help. Because we are part of the same.
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at tro or two in high in the no but evening pur so among air fla more than atu man naurur in kamar so here ab noson to see it de all vi e and contact man nottu mariquereerna there tralegu contrast tell vo de v opleity something or or soing some I to to connected to the nature of life in society.
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We should go ski, we should go on a bike, we should tally much, we should try to achieve different goals. We can also meet other many idretts-prestations that happen in nature, which make us a little bit of relationship to the whole.
Stress Reduction and the Nervous System
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And that we can break the the change we have in And nature has a very......ro-giving effect on us when we can take it in.
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It stresses me in nature, but I have read a book about vagusnerv, which came out now in 2025.
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a vagus nerve and ro-and-vile-nerve system. yelp octava bog is not of an adible event like this is stanapport ba bah a someure of nadibus of What be affected by nature and how our body works.
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I've read lot research, and not all for me that has health background. aho leas mastererossny thereha al some for me ex mishel how hence the family of aland It's not all that is easy to understand one time, but what see is that when you the to do the same thing for the brain, it's an enormous effect on our system.
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For example, when you go through the and bacteria that all the trees are going to be a part of the photosynthesis.
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And that puts us So it has a health-free effect in itself. It can be used to stimulate our immune system for example. um So something about it. One
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so you can see the sense of the way you see on something, that you see the way to see, that you look at something, that you look at something.
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And the
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The ability to do one person every time. So when we consume so much as we do now in our time. It's very important to the stress level. So it's not a so theyolism for fin not one or synalism cortisun ni moylu or example some scarp stress There is the and very much research on that you be so sweet to be out in nature, but... then martintonman
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and how research can be underwitted it. I think it's very interesting that it's much more than just being in the air air air
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there so makey take but that fuck thisvaa and fred is madtin not to and some urin or males i are here sipo de ne poor uli kimo dis manian ne flaru mataappi and andra not two medicines kids raish not up that a and bring in effect e diffton or a woman um r e trust so they are valang or mamanarva is that by aning the on the way.
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And when nervous system of the and the evne, all the time to repair the body.
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think it's under-vurdered in our society, how important what word wi to the a mayor mevila preva octa um thought to be the over a pond that can be the most healthy place.
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yeah also they and eight sisters a cu to say yeon de ornegaor from me that the ham us dia meamma s not com for soci on me I so on
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articles in media or in research. This is something that can remind us of a knowledge that we already have. For example, a researcher finds out that the light of the rain is very fast. Almost unknowingly, pulse goes down, the heart-sourced and the heart goes down in a very fast way.
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listen knew me to thoughts of in viona more after two single go there i am notethgo another woman in v the lamordu gasket And then I think that we were mennesker that lived in flock for 3000 years ago. And if you hear the sound of the wind of the wind, you know that here can't stop my feet in stund, because here I can't survive, because here it's rain.
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I think we know that in our lives. So it's not about learning things again, as mennesker as.
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su laista it organs on le seiaroel ni vgo after the woligo summer a ferpo op optimisma the vkyleia there tough after the i i start in those circuitcus so um k not to run men or men are masad the for misa among and many organizations that stood together with such kind a-coring. And what came as a number one, which most were afraid of being missed was the sound of wolf the skog.
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But it's also so that if you go into a skog it suddenly gets quiet, then you know that there are a wolf in the near region. also manda's camor for sick days so day or no we thank you megan there tendi m meveta e poppuo after sondola it wasn just the suspend and the
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the sit from fortoonscoy pop and mother so the canny and not dog on like example spot It's very interesting. I think about how music that makes music, or meditation music, uses the sound of the wind, the wind and the wind, which is with the shape of the music. It's very interesting that we can get out and get the music from nature. And what I think has been so much of the risk with the skogsbading is how small experiences are so big, because they get so much time and place.
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ah We know from when we've been out with small children in and
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The little experience can be very big for the children, because they are so miserable and so much.
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Because we've had so good time. I was out there with you in the summer. We should go around and take on something. We took things around for 10 minutes. It was a girl took on. I was looking at her with the the about her.
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I can also think it was very nice and nice and nice, but took in
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then fix a me plus oh oh yeah sure too since the i i consume a assumptionism We live in a part where we often up go out to a skogsbad and meet a small girl with a huge experience.
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It's a
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the ti of what ah or o that ain' iosookpoing for them vi dear ah less than some for somein's pullli this scar ro la a a and mo v till consum meman beque charena till till all they held in true will not be more ha for a very and
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I have thought I understood what the word magi means in the moments you describe. At one knows one is something that is much bigger than it looks like. It's time to drowsy life, for example, if it rains and so-called bad weather.
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there will only some fatigue throw in noserka and draw off the sleeve for example p drya sora in now so called dova or that you can sit and see the reflections of the water and experience it as if you get a and then you can see it as if you're both under the water and the water at the same time. It's just a little bit of a søle putt and then you look down and then you see the whole skog down there.
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It's magical for me. really it. with a new school guide. One of the invitation we got to sit and sit the water.
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ah over that it's fo have the ara pin or rain nali de gram parton mil let ryme And that was great to be out there. was summer, it wasn't a problem to be out there.
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But we sat there, fascinated by the munch of rain, which dripped down in dam in a wreck.
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I think we were all caught by mønster in the vannoverflation. It's a gift to have the type of Both as a frisk person who can and this can be for a person who is are not e for el demans schism of bla verraor snius that is spvacusis it all do it in a movement.
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so good to be, or can have balance to to cycle, or can have a lot to go on fjelltopper. It's to be able to sit and experiences in the of in It's like that life becomes much more rich from the small experiences, without having to do so much. I think that's a good way to go into age of, when we can be near to the open way.
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I've had a and to... Alzheimer's, all, but I knew that it was something
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and cornelli missionval my postcoke's father ha some some the umnodomin buttavao Because when we talk about experience of living in a of invitation, you can't deal with what you've done.
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But then you were asking how to do it practice is very nice. is that what ofy and there or for corner your womanon include there on the parkes they hate new they or they become The can be used to be born, sick and fresh, small groups and small groups. It's for a part of something bigger than yourself.
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often sha not end daniel lo stone a sheel of the man That it's a part of something you say, for example.
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And then lift your hands and just look at what you find from life the small area that your hands are being. And you often get put in suck on a a like a fruit of that there is so much life that you just get away from.
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And then I hope that we can continue to live without such experiences with desire to be aware of nature. a lot or not two look through at the looks baing um for them portfos tell not to earn remember about an among me not to and yeah I and and I was born in the book of great way
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if you were lessdi book in school gov on the side tea you some some historic hum that um the tree, in system.
Appreciating Untouched Wilderness
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But we are used to see after the river and the harer when we see after the wild skog, not gorgan it this small things. So a book also makes a sense about the fact that it is to of that you have been very excited about
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<unk>ve s my custom national i secure or of of the Urskog. How do
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our experience of engagement in nature and the power of nature?
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Yes, it's about taking care of the the old skog, it has of course many different things around the world, from the briller you are on, but it to be moving in the wild, it is so strong. I have been lot in big and big and big and I love the city, but like the park in Oslo for example,
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or elseinlilionman or park in the you know for example a la when you
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And then it's easier to deal with the stone. Or to see the stone that is old. Or to see the stone that is broken and knitted. And that it's like it
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there aiciareer pois some area the It's very on I can't explain it. Ur-life.
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Yes, I hear it very often.
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of. The one else so i always knockma fox somehowvachbe spokes by the way
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harvestve me poor or for fmen skibardo tank of the no my yeah briga malosci putta la not two said aval delixon It's important take care of nature. it doesn't go so well. I've always been very excited about nature. As ten-year-old was I was with nature and young. There were a picture of in the aviser when we went with gas masks over
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full year ofgan self job blockard more traffickin intibe in someman day i love and the different ways you can work with nature. For me now, to take people nature, do nature meditation, I
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Nina's Journey as a Skogsbad Guide
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Can you tell us what motivation was to become a Skogsbad guide?
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I had very need to come back to myself after many years of So and it was something else that could happen in life, thought. And then when Corona came,
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also so koco or man theres some tea there or um My cohort was talking about
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And so I came to a place where I was talking about Shinri Yoko and Skogsbad. I had to read and second to take the certification. Both for a so great.
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It felt like a natural way to go. What are your wishes for the Soksbad in Norway? It's a great question. the form of the form I'm with in.
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We get more and But the the established, and it's to make Skogsbad more known. Now it's also like the a there that of the your
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dilama I Japan is so they pay less than premium if they drive with a really recognizes the value of the skogsbading.
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ah thank you dia about especiallylon teeth first thing and will va ti leno for ther relevant I to understand that this is something to do with.
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I hear more and and the for that you don't want to
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I think there will be a that a awareness of the skogsbading.
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Would you say something about the end of the video, Nina? I just think about how to
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send thelaman on in spar don know it will come for and mean on your piamon it would a deir or and has been used in the so-called modern times.
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you then soak off the moal It's great to say it, I to you the to support nature. So I hope that we can work for work in a work.
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hope that.