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12. Hvorfor feire vintersolverv?
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I denne episoden snakker Jannicke Wiel med Renate Hetlevik Andersen om hvordan det å være oppmerksom på naturens syklus gjennom året og markere overgangene mellom årstidene med årstidsfester kan være verdifullt. Renate belyser vintersolverv og julen mer perspektiver fra det norrøne, sjamanske og paganistiske. Her får du ideer til din feiring.
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Introduction to Celebrations and Guest
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Welcome to a new episode of the Polism-podden, dear listeners. I'm glad to have with me Renate Hetlevik-Andersen. We will talk about marking of the year and the year-feiring.
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Now we're going to the the summer. Here are many who are enjoying the holiday in Norway.
Essence of Seasons and Celebrations
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Renate, you have marked the year's time.
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and over gangene eller hatt årstidsfester
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For meg så har det veldig mye med det å I like very come into the kjerne of things. I've always been a little of a kind how many different times are coming from the different times, and why are so many like times the same time, and what actually the essence of this?
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also yeah geg your back for me in the lepu only ah k christna christowell said but this bo so And and had a need for
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meaning and understanding of the feigning that I have always been doing for the time with my stillness, people had time for my parents and not working and things, so had very good relationship to it, but I had a need for things to have meaning.
Aligning with Nature for Well-being
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So therefore was little bit of difference in what it actually and what it is. And so I have a very trust in that we as menes We live here in the physical world and the physical world is styrt by its rhythm and love and such things. And we are biologists physical beings who are listening to this fantastic network.
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So I have a lot of trust in it be a in tune with the rhythm in the nature we are part of that I think we have so that our nature very styrt, our meneskenatur, so we can also work our thoughts and our feelings and so
Reflection on Life Paths
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on. a little, what we call it, a psychological and balanced function of being in tune with what actually happens around us.
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And so I think that we menesquers have a need for us to stop in between Reflektere, and you do it a chance to come together or be alone. Set good foot in the back and see where we are, be able to we are.
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I think I think I'm aware of the focus on the light and the light and the light, that's a way I'm going to connect with nature. As you said, the cycles are also what is biologically natural.
Historical Traditions and 'Jul' Origins
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of when It's the dark time of or you're out there for night and dance and baths.
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but it to be able to recognize not the in the dark and and you
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Can you the the the the
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many people who have little bit of meaning or the what on
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to go back on the traditions we have here and how they come from and and so on. And as you say, the word jul jowl, so it's a gammal tab, is not a christian word in the whole, that you have nothing with Jesus' love to do, but it existed before the time.
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And it's a bit weird, it's a bit like, how to say, the period around jul, now we're going to go into mid-winter and so we know how much time so-called sol-snur, or long we start to go to our fairs to back to and to our sol.
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And so we were going to be on the 21st, 22nd, 22nd, which is often on the 21st of December. But the December,
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So it was a little deeper in winter. it was a little deeper in the winter. For the first time they had not the most instrument we have, but for the other time it was maybe when you started to merke that the light was beginning to come back again. At we had a snudge, that the light was beginning to increase. And so there was a little more explanation on it.
Winter Traditions and Abundance
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And as a part of that, you had for example going to be in a dyre with a horn and would be a little...
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delvisramana or Delvis
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Så gikk man fra at man fikk mat og And if you didn't get food and food, then you didn't get food.
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So it was like a kind of a blend of making a morn, bringing in food, bringing in food, bringing in food for the coming year, for the garden, for the home. And this was very broken.
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It was a point that it was a little bit of a brokenness. and tradition that it ended to, it the same tradition but the same with the book of the book we on the universe
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m So it's a of so But but it doesn't take effect before we can get it, for we can get it on the way.
Norwegian Ancestor Traditions
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And in the middle there is a little bit of a period where there are a little bit of chaos, and there are little things to pass on. So there are both families, ordinary people, and so on. And for example, there are some ideas about how to set out the grøt in the nest, so they are a little bit of a bit of a extra tallerken to what they are doing.
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or Halloween, because Nissen was the original tomte-gubb was called the one who was placed on the ground, the first forfeather on ground.
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So the one who out with a grøt and a dram and an oil-tail. <unk>toen drum or t for
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Til at de ikke skulle skremme dyrene, og de skulle ta godt vare på det og sånt. It's very interesting what you tell me. she says she has put a lot good stuff on the wall for her to help her.
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we have a so-called forfedred tradition in Norway with this tradition. I was
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forfedre-kult. We hold on with that, further the san usingly ofham that some tradition. But... And maybe you can take it in your own own...
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We do it of and my mother are our tomtenisse.
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so So we set out some of the grøt, and some of the oil, and so on. We all set out a light, and we have a fine little markering, just on the we started with, but with a tradition and little bit of little bit of can go here now.
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It's very nice to the the whole noteswaga ehi was ven when awkward done four and religious on and listen to kier who can never pour call It to a of theofff de and ain know some to is justfer har and the harn suovti of rammbbu the bo hary hoggin is a the but if you have a is and is
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bohaan and the understanding we do in ourselves, has an effect on bringing up and connecting us to the lines we are part of and the bigger whole.
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so at I think that the is to out for the three and schy log is escapefect or existency l affect while you c for my of they coated me in a fullfa that are for So it's a very important thing to us, so the way we are in our relationship with each other the world,
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and maybe even if we are.
Personal Year-tide Experiences
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So I think it's a big effect for me. It would have very important to come out and on the floor.
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You get these same meetings. I was in Morocco and had retreat. We went to all the directions and called the earth in the east went to eop ifian now some they so we could earn or the And the ah the other of ahobic yeah vakin alliance mother eli either some to firm and the i already muho them for another little bitreus for hard other at la ranzaada
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fabinati nor e But back to the year-tids-fest.
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Winter-sol-snu and the the So is this something you have done, Renate, in your life?
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Yes, in my life, I have arranged many feignings for it. For example, the mid-twinters-feiring, so it's very much that it's
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order um or um na thelo and parami it thus firing ander youvalir del rame or Tend a the a little on
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not on hey cons salar noant so we've been us more lock bar ra la gotri allla sort thing po and north family head four goba we are forth twelveing up which i a think some hashadi lupto walka or like a
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I also feel the And do with summer solvay?
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Yes, it's a bit important to was and
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um over soul vals somebody what else is almost allva saval viiotanna ill poor you run for or that they is more some delicate let set me more four or minou pour another yel peru or buttannyhiu for sinvaa than monte husos nu cuuner and so
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to and a trick for life. then again, a reflection over what has been in life so long or coro rattannahi and the energy forward and and need to do. It's also a in life and what we need to do.
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Så det er jo aspekt av at ikke alt sammen blir et sånn mentalt skapelsesting, at vi skal manifestere den beste virkeligheten, men faktisk også lytte litt inn i dyp og gi rom for det som er fruene der, og det som er der og har lyst til å manifestere seg nå.
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and severalin that that non stop it up reflected I you
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I've arranged for several years as yoga-lærer in many years, both in winter summer,
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ah or that someone survived for extra mi bloomstead or um having to survive for extra lease it's not ali faelly symbolicus or may bring it in or yeah her cell tanked they or niaska i'm in yoga team and to the year that has gone I have no yoga-time on the night. I'm and
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this skier hate the pun nalet or that oric yeah elo mar tokaut um salliifed my el fiction on the ven there and eant panviid among I to the
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In the end of by the that so new to for
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what was the challenge I have been in the challenge
Spiritual Practices for Life's Challenges
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I have been in. think it's a nice way to go into the year and to feel it's a strong way to keep it in the it's been difficult.
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Absolutely. Very nice. if you're there and you're not yet able to see it positive in the vansable, then there's a deep spiritual practice of sending the time to the vansable.
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you answerset and just see what happens. For if you do it, and it can be eggy egg we was a in or bo says da but the once clue over youre fao cooper mego already thinking the san the daughter do yeah de ra meo suddenly come taalise in niuka some you eba lere aterilda no ortin somethingtinid de mur inni so the it very mysterious and the or in
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yeah fi taelise emeria exant oterron de ram border the merciumiole than mercustoorsstein or soliamia pa meky may eleg murky order for le so mi i you ten and then you start talking themmly at in the edge you talk namelyrus atru as short who le for word seekkike hela of in li more lisly now there they arelu nemly foros stickia nenomi and myan practice said the talk namnet o norravansli yeah santa orga
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did the u a what the helppo also so or like qualitytavi here the is ones clear no on so we can shi shi vi stuard so they first the itinal its only you red father i got about suhar that laing or all la trickyri um and when become my the apartment si or here and still of ra one of our shirts so this to the other mily at televara and de aing on skisto thing I think it's very important to do such a practice in front of the I all ven ni de me but you the the the preparation,
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ah sum them somemon ah associate ah like someone comes stood lagaath the for no ma bo li see schlagenaxo thought thought the settleman ratwell something that must save avoid everybody have listened to you and some ka varegansky schles some muchima they are hard than introver dirttiden tit introspection um tiroop ah or soing a go in there you man in theistico aru or fer upland louisvi briefmera you intend a contemplative ju avalde heldiohar and the and of
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It's very important to have someone to sit or snuck himel that tank i don feed thing or sp and a friend about
Adapting Traditions for Personal Beliefs
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him. He, would you to before the year? And talk about the year that has gone.
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And set some intention for the new year. That it's something you can... bring in vennskap, at man markering, but that it's to stop, where I am in life now, that's very important. And so I think that
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full life and in thing.
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past eure in more dirt war fao a de la who as a overluen a dear man had gotten through the and or in and
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And so you can absolutely let it little bit in both gave and other things. It's not that do it. But maybe just to remember how these traditions come from. What are intention with What are intention with it? What are intention with it? What are intention with it? Instead saying, no, now again. now I'm going to do something I'm going to to them. And but this here is feiring of
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a lot of things in life. You can't be your own relationship with life. You don't need be hyper-social if we don't want to be able to do it. You can
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I mørketiden. Uten alt det første Jeg synes det er kjempekoselig bare å tenne et stjerinlys. Bare det å ha ekstra lys i vinduerne.
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Disse små tingene som skaper en veldig fredfull og god stemning. Det kan være den enkleste lille tingen. Tenne et lys. Og tenke på hva det er jeg er glad for i dag. Og så er jo dette både med lys og og for seg juletreet og granbar og disse tingene. Det er jo It is to
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And that's why we turn our light around us to remind us about the to do it that we are menings for ourselves.
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I would not be able to apply to a new practice, but to bring in something that like this gives me a lot of time and a of time. And now,
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I think it's great with the cyklists, and as you said, the evigrenne, and the cranses that you often use on the door, or use as a julecrans, where there is the circle that also is very.
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i definite thank you bobhada symbolic some humdra about that there are no that from on theed that for servicessis And the if we go into the and the the different times of the same time of the year and the same time of the year and the life so this winter and night is something that represents death, not this? It's not that it's going to be in the morn, but it's or at you get a new life on the other side of the other. Winter goes over to summer and summer and summer and new fruit. And death goes over to new life. We come to the cycle.
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And in death and morn and natten and it's a very regenerative process. pass tea answer said we link it for all a bit tod de lit ma ma wall for na juliat ofivia yorta la be san deard and a person ni mal laok was almost with hangor <unk>vo na novi le i ni mallo forho cunavara ocivvo viquementortavara puruerra novare a holings move of iniranvi or innimu for in
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i barre stupid pop or regenerate and process all impulses. So it's a important time, it's not an important time, but we to walk until or other things that some of these traditions came from, so had you not electricity and light that stood on the whole day and warm and so on.
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You lived de e in a world that was dark when it was dark. And it was light when it was dark. ho de mana ne in lom perumman ta that abli mechman hadi a davaten And
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of the experience of the year's time on on to on on. So it's something we have you know viianha miss do clip bob me war valde stremif de lis charm tbar al so and so so the ope de mequelet work on neros valligo doev le contut me naur rebodi o so in a So not really contu me till it's can
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before we start on the pust again.
Contemplative Nature of Winter
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I think it's the
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It's contemplative over it, We really need to enjoy our support. In the all the advent, we are not so contemplative as something we are in the winter and half the summer. So we are so happy Norge that we have the long in the new year and the of and
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We can probably there all the you for them or youre for winter soul but to do would you invite them to
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I think that yet For yourself or to tend a light, whether it's a little light or a whole ball.
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Reflecting a little, as we've talked about, maybe maybe little lap so you write some words on, like that.
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set fire on, a up. year that comes.
Closing Reflections and Gratitude
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And then think on it can do a little
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Og så tenker jeg også, hvis jeg får lov å si det, altså gi folk et lite sånn råd om å finne sin jul. Ta seg litt tid til å reflektere over hva er verdifullt, eller hva betyr jul deg. Og hvis det virkelig ikke betyr noen ting, så har jeg selvfølgelig lov å la være og feire den. but if want to be a in the
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Do this to a meaning for yourself. Either you can integrate with others. No one can do no do said butar the eulist askedrsy for me li biercus a con it, The who represent the light in the morn the we have together, even if it can be
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or conflicts in the family. So you order to do this is a very important thing.
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Thank you. I've got many ideas both for the tail winter solver and a really good winter period with winter solver jul. take inspiration to do it Thank you for your time, Renate.