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Season 5- Episode 36- Trending (Premiership Round 24 & Super Rugby Round 11)
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It's another fun episode from those American rugby fools. On this episode, we start with the hanging up of a certain someone's boots and then we are also talking the final round of the Prem and the final table, discussing the end result for each from top to bottom. Then we jump over to Super Rugby as we get to the business end of the regular season schedule before we talk Quarter-Finals. No Free Jacks match to discuss, but HE is back in Massachusetts and we are excited! All this, plenty of banter and much more for you to kick back and enjoy.
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Transcript
Introduction and Banter
00:00:02
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It is... The Fantasy Europeans. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion! Collusion!
00:00:27
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Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Yeah. Let's dive in. Um, plenty to talk about, but we're probably not going to spend as much time talking about it as you might think. Just cause, but yeah, exactly. Be busy opening a beer about this. Yeah. I'm too busy opening beers over here to talk about it. Find us on your favorite podcast app. Share.
00:00:56
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Supporting the Fantasy Rugby Geek
00:01:03
Speaker
That's good stuff right there. If you are someone that managed to pull out your FRD prem win this past weekend, you should go ahead and buy our good friend, the fancy Ruby geek, a coffee, because you probably got there thanks to him, or at least in part, thanks to him.
00:01:24
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So you should definitely go support our good friend and buy him a coffee, beer, whatever you want, however you want to see it. But yeah, do that right there. Or just go buy him a beer as we have both done. That's also true. Well, figuratively, because I guess the beer was paid for by someone. Anyway. Anyway.
Florida's New Law and Labor Impact
00:01:45
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In any case, um, as always, uh, yeah, beers, uh, as always on this podcast, there is no, uh, room for discrimination, nor should there be in sports or in life. And we have major discrimination going on in where else, but the armpit of America, that is Florida. The wang of America. Yeah. Um, that's pretty, that's nice. That's too nice to that. Just be honest. Um,
00:02:15
Speaker
Yeah, they passed a law about like having to have like naturalization papers or whatever to work, and that they were like super harsh penalties towards anyone who's employing someone without papers.
00:02:35
Speaker
I just woke up this morning and saw all these videos from Florida of, hey, there's this fruit. Nobody's picking this. There's strawberries. There's a whole field of strawberries that nobody's working. Nobody's working at it all. Nobody's tending to them. Nobody's picking them. And then, oh, here's a construction project that's obviously a major development.
00:02:56
Speaker
And it's like ground double halt because there's nobody to work. So and yeah, I saw some like some like street repair work that's just not like there's clearly like the equipment there and nobody's doing anything. So it's like just a street that's torn up. So like things like that. It's like, hey, you know, like this is what happens. You discriminate. You know, they're doing it just solely to discriminate. And suddenly nobody's working these jobs.
00:03:27
Speaker
Right. And it's, it's always the, well, they're taking our jobs. Cool. They're the only ones that can go do work those jobs. So, you know, if you want, don't want them to have those jobs, maybe you should not be afraid to work them because right, you want to go pick some strawberries, go right ahead. Like if, and I'm not saying that's what like, you know, it's, I'm okay with that. If that's the way it's going to go, as long as they're treated fairly,
00:03:54
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Then, yeah, why not? That shouldn't be like that. If that's going to keep our produce cheap, fuck yeah. That's like that. That's good for the economy in the long run. So. Yeah, much, much better than not having any produce coming out of Florida. Yeah, that'd be a good idea. Because, yeah, how's your economy going to do when you can't have any right? You're killing. You're killing Disney. You're killing, you know, farmers and contractors and whatnot now. Like these are your.
00:04:24
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bread and butter, these are your base. Disney people are your Republican base for the most part. Yeah, construction workers, crews, things like that. Yeah, there's some union guys and whatnot. They'll vote the other way, but some of them. But yeah, these are conservatives that you're pissing off too. Everybody's getting mad and all because you just want to be
00:04:52
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racist. Congratulations. Well done. You idiot. So yeah, like from every perspective, it's like, there's no good way that this is working out for you. Right. Agreed. It should be painfully obvious at this point. Yeah. And that's the thing like, like, I'm trying to tell talking words that they understand in that case, because it's like, look, you're killing your own support. Hmm.
00:05:16
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Although they will vote for you anyway, so what do they give a shit? What's that? I said, although they will still vote that way anyway, because they don't give a shit. They don't use it, right? Because, again, discrimination. Yeah. It's more important than your job, I guess. Right. It's more important than your business. That's okay. Thank you. Anyway, are Patreons still up?
Patreon Offerings and Teasers
00:05:40
Speaker
This is...
00:05:42
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If you want to get it, there's still a couple of rounds left, especially as we're getting now into the final week of Super Rugby before. Semifinals, yeah. Semifinals, if you want to join for a month just to get some access to help you get over the hump there for the semis and finals. No, join for a month. You don't even have to do it, you don't have to keep it going, especially over the summer months where there's no fantasy rugby updates. Nothing for much for us to, you know,
00:06:10
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Jared's Ogre content is also going to be a little dormant. So yeah, just a month. Try it out. See if you like it. And again, we're going to be doing something next year. So we'll still have. We'll talk more about that when we do fancy pod. But yeah, we will have something. No doubt. No doubt.
00:06:34
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Also, we are climbing to episode 200. We'll be there in like next month. Holy fuck. Yeah. Slowly getting there. So keep your eyes and ears peeled. We'll put out, and we obviously will start putting out things for people to ask open-ended questions. Like I said, we'll try and get the better half to join us for a little bit so they can, if you're ever curious about what it's like for them when we're doing this shit, you may ask.
00:07:03
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Wow. They deal with us when we're being particularly, um, and tempered and ask them why they don't come to free Jack's games with us. I think that's an easy answer. That's pretty, that's pretty obvious answer. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so we'll do something for that. Keep your eyes on Neil's field. Um, and also.
Jared's Rugby Retirement Reflection
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Um, sentimental moment for me this past weekend and then I was kind of off to the cuff, but I, um, I hung up my playing boots. I, uh, always, uh, yeah, it was, uh, it was, it was, and today I told, I kind of put it out to the world, like, yeah, I'm done. And that was, that it's, it's funny. Cause people look, I know there are people that look at me and like, what's the big deal? You know, you don't, this is, you're not professional. Why does it matter?
00:07:58
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Well, it probably doesn't to some people and that's fine. Like I'm not judging them for having the mindset they do and for being who they are, but like this is such a thing that is, you know, it burns deep inside me. It's something that, you know, I've done for more than, more, more than half my life. Right. This is right. You're 20 for me. Exactly. So it's a big thing. It's not just a, it's a, it's a, you know, and, and,
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It's different for some people because some people are like, yeah, I liked playing it in college, but I'll watch it for now. I'll be a rugby fan or, you know, or even before it. But, you know, if you're going to stick around on the game. So like it wasn't a big deal for them when they were like, yeah, I just didn't really feel like playing anymore. Some people do that, you know, at younger age. I know guys who are like really good and I wanted to keep playing with them. And they're like at twenty five, they're like, yeah, I'm just going to be done and I'll come hang out and whatnot. Right. But they wouldn't play anymore.
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But it's like, no, when you make it your life, essentially, like not, but like the better part of your life, as you said, like 20 years in the game playing, like active playing, like I have 20 years now, but like I haven't played since 2019 really. So I haven't been strapped on real boots in four years. So yeah, it was, I totally get it. Like.
00:09:17
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Because you've done so much, too. You've played with some exceptional rugby players, with some international rugby players, and for some quality teams. And that's a big deal. You're a good contributor.
00:09:34
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Yeah, that's a thing like you've got, you know, that's yeah, you're allowed to retire at that point. Like you're allowed to be like, no, I am retiring as a, you know, and certainly with Boston, a definite club guy, you've been around them and playing with them for a better part. And I wouldn't prefer me. For me, I wouldn't wear another color either. I'd always wear black, white and yellow. That's just how I am.
00:10:00
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You know, I don't jump club to club and judge. I mean, I don't really associate much with them, but at this anymore. But at the same time, I still wear their shit. Right. Exactly. So it's just a thing. It was. Yeah. Yeah. We know. We know the thing. We know the thing. So it's and it's. Yeah, I've I've been a lot of cool places for it. Savannah, Georgia. Right.
00:10:21
Speaker
Atlanta, obviously, play his life. Yeah. DC. Good trip. New York, New York, New York, and then Buffalo, obviously as well. Orlando in high in college as a part of the sweet 16 for for the Nationals. Been to West Point a couple times, like I have to say.
00:10:44
Speaker
When you don't have locker rooms and then you, then you go to West Point where they have some immaculate locker rooms. You're like, fuck, I missed out. Like any, and even like the Nyack ones as well. Same, you know? Oh man. Yeah. Those were nice. Yeah. It was nice to go to my, um,
00:11:06
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I had a dinner after one game that I went to with Catherine and it was nice to not go to smell, go there smelling like gas. Yeah. And we had like the visitors locker room with like the.
00:11:16
Speaker
kind of ratty ass showers, but like at least they were showers. Like we didn't have them. Like I've never played for a club that had tone showers like that. Yeah. So yeah, it was, um, it was a good end because we got to raise the trophy. I put, I played loose at all weekend and that's one of my favorite parts on the weekend was the championship. We were,
00:11:38
Speaker
housing their scrum and just bending over, bending them over backwards and winning scrum penalties. It was awesome. And I was just like, yes, this is my favorite. This is my favorite right now. And I, you know, I'm not a huge fan of necessarily, you know,
00:11:55
Speaker
scrum penalties, let's take a scrum penalties, but shit, you're a fucking when you're a prop, you you have to at least, you know, be proud of yourself when you make those. So yeah, it was it was a fun way. Well, because you know, as a prop, certainly, you know, that like, the penalty, some most penalties can go either way. Yeah. And then but when you are just earning them after like, you're just totally dominant. That's that's when it's fun, because you don't get that very often. No, no, you got to appreciate it.
00:12:24
Speaker
Yeah. And then, and then, and then after we rate, who's it against? Oh, okay. In the, in the, in the C bracket, which was cool. Um, but yeah, and then I told the boys at the end, um, after we raised the trophy and I got a little missy on that. Yeah. You know, um, but they were, they were, they were good and they've,
00:12:45
Speaker
And Jared, you're this most stoic person I've ever met. I'm genuinely surprised that you take after my grandfather. He was a big baby. But yeah, and yeah, and today the boys have been just as generous with their praises in their
00:13:04
Speaker
and they're well-wishes. So yeah, it's a, as we've always said about half-assing and whole-assing, you got a whole-ass one thing and I can't whole-ass it no more. So you have to with this, you know, you beat your body up enough, you got to be able to whole-ass it. So if you can't, then yeah, you probably, it's probably time. And I can't, so it's time.
00:13:25
Speaker
You know, I'll play old boys. I mean, that's not. Yeah, you're not like this. So this is welcome to first retirement. Right. And then there's there's old boys and then like the fuck around tournaments, which is fine. Like, but I don't go to training. I'm not going to do anything intentionally to get myself ready for those tournaments. I'm just going to show up at the tournament and play. There's a huge difference between those two things.
00:13:46
Speaker
Yeah. Whereas I'm at the point where I'm like, if I go, you know, train with a club, which I may just for like fitness reasons, like I'm not doing the contact shit. Fuck that. I'll run a little. I don't blame you. But like, I don't need that anymore. First off, I'm better at it. I'm like, even in my old age, I'm like, I could do it. It's like I'll do it if I ever play a game again. Right. Do it for a reason. Exactly. Exactly. I need to practice. I've done it too much. Yeah.
00:14:16
Speaker
All right, let's, cause we had a few retirements to call out anyway.
Rugby Team Performance Review
00:14:20
Speaker
So let's, um, yeah, we had a few, let's look around, let's look around the table more or less. Um, just kind of talk about the weekend for each one and what happened and we can start, uh, we'll start at the bottom and we'll go up. So Newcastle was a really unfortunate, I said in my blog, in my blog this today, like,
00:14:43
Speaker
The only reason I watched Newcastle was their back three mostly. Like Mateo Correo's being the big headliner. But like Obi and Radwan and Todd Penny for a part of it. That's really what I was watching that team for. Everything else was kind of the, especially when MacWigan left. I get it. Yeah. And this weekend was no different really. Even though I didn't watch the match, but I knew it was a shit show. Right.
00:15:12
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know that I may have watched it. I may have just kind of had it on. It was not notable. No. How would that be notable, you know? Yeah. Other than, you know, Newcastle just not showing up, which is a shame. Like I was saying before we started recording, like. And we'll get to the other team that did it, but like this is the weekend. Like you're not playing for anything. So what are you trying to do by?
00:15:40
Speaker
kicking out of your own end. What are you really trying to accomplish? Like have some fucking fun, go with it. What are you gonna lose 54 to 12? Oh, wait, you did anyway. You did it anyway. Like, it's just like, it's your last match of the year, make it a spectacle. Go fucking nuts, have fun. Right, right, right. Get to that in a second. Yeah, but so the real disappointment
00:16:09
Speaker
in all of this for me is Gloucester who started off really well in the season. I know there's, it was kind of a little fictitious because of all the canceled games and stuff, but still they were right there in the thick of semi-final talk, you know, top four. Not that long ago either. Right. And they've just,
00:16:29
Speaker
really taking a tumble. And I know Adam Hastings got hurt, but they also just didn't really make good decisions after that. You know, it took them until basically the week before Adam Hastings got back to figure out that Lloyd Evans is not a good rugby player. And we probably should just put a semi-experienced head at Billy 12's trees at 10 and let Santi Carreras be himself at fullback instead. Right. Right. And, you know,
00:16:56
Speaker
And as we said at that time, you know, push comes to shove. If you're going to, you know, have Billy 12 trees in one hand and Lloyd Evans in the other, I'm going to take 12 trees. Yeah. At 10. Yes. Yes. Like if I'm, you know, if I could have the lineup and have either Carreras at 10 and Lloyd Evans at 15 or 12 trees at 10 and Carreras at 15, give me plan B. Exactly. Every day. Exactly.
00:17:26
Speaker
And they don't, it took them way too long to figure that out. Right. And that, that was, that's a shame. Yeah. For everybody. Cause like, could you imagine, cause you know, look at what Robert Dupree did this year with sale. Yeah. Big story for them. And 12 trees could have been that.
00:17:44
Speaker
Although, you know, a little older, like a little bit slightly different, you know, you know, wouldn't, wouldn't have been the same level by any means whatsoever. But like approach, you know, approaching the end of his career and, um, you know, this is like one last go and he could have done it if they had given him the opportunity earlier. Right. And they, they didn't perform extremely well on the, on the weekend either. You know, Bristol had something to play for big time and they, and they, um, yeah.
00:18:12
Speaker
No, they were going for it. Even if they didn't get it, they were at least going for it. But it didn't didn't like Gloucester kick a penalty later or this. Oh, it was a penalty try late that got that that. It was like a penalty try that happened at Gloucester Gloucester got at the same time as like. Bathwork taking a penalty or something like that, and it just fucked.
00:18:40
Speaker
Yep. And then, but that's the thing like the difference. Yeah. They just weren't Bristol. I thought Bristol took their foot off the gas a little much. I think they, they should have played wide, much more wide open and just get, we're just going to score. And they kind of did that. Like it took them a little bit to, I think some of them were trying. It just wasn't, wasn't, wasn't coming together. Yep. I mean, red Roger, that was a nice way to, that was a nice handoff he had. Yeah. And Bristol had a, had a better.
00:19:10
Speaker
They, they really took way too long to get going this season. And this was what we saw them do against Gloucester and up against many teams at the latter half of the state. This, the season was what we were hoping they would do all year long and they just didn't. And, you know, blame it on one thing or the other, but in the end, you know, they just didn't get it done. Right.
00:19:32
Speaker
And I think, by the way, that's Johnny may try with the sequence that led to the Johnny may try was some outstanding road to be like kids. If you want to see like good loose play and what to do, once you, you, uh, get a line break, watch that. Right. Cause that's textbook line break, um, attack. Yep. That's good stuff. But in Bristol.
00:20:02
Speaker
I mean, you, you, you do those kinds of moves enough and even trucking Johnny make and score from distance. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, for Bristol, I'm like, is, is next season going to be really that much different because what helps coming other than max mail-ins?
00:20:21
Speaker
I think they have some, um, let's, let's, let's look at it. They have all great coming as well, I suppose. And I know they're losing rads, but they're also getting Revovo. So it's kind of a balance there. So, you know, one for the other in that case. Yeah, exactly. Revovo is not. There's no slap trying by any means whatsoever. Yeah. Uh, this is the 2022 to 23. I want.
00:20:50
Speaker
Okay. There we go. Yeah. So Bristol, um, yeah, they're getting all gray. They're going Wilson home. Karen Marmian, Revovo, Malin. That's right. And so they're, they'll reinforce their stable in the, in the nines. I know, I know that was in the errand and well-ported moving on as well. Um,
00:21:10
Speaker
But it's, yeah, it's how it's tough, like there's a few talent mailings is probably like the his replacement but I think there's still different players so exactly, but I think that Bristol, I don't know that they
00:21:27
Speaker
needed those guys to play. I mean, I mean, you need a red rider. Yes. And Pietel was like, they're just outstanding. They're their cheat codes. I just think that when Bristol are playing their game anyway, like they can they can still score without them if they're if everything is clicking right. It's almost like they had they they rely. I felt like they maybe they were relying on them. They're like, well, I don't make a play or whatever. Yeah. You know,
00:21:55
Speaker
Samuel bail me out or Chuck back there. Well, he's going to do something awesome anyway. So I'll just wait for that to happen. We've all played on teams that do that. So maybe this is like a there used to be it was a Bill Simmons back in the back in the day. I'm going to put a fucking onion on my belt. Bill Simmons used to be the Boston sports guy on ESPN like their like second page, third page, whatever it was.
00:22:21
Speaker
And he talked about the Patrick Ewing effect, which was like when your best player is out, everybody else steps up their game. And because they're like, oh, whatever, Ewing's in the game. We can all kind of relax. We can cruise from here. He'll take us home. And maybe there's a little bit of that to Red Radra and Pia Tao.
00:22:41
Speaker
We'll see, although Revovo is going to be just fine. He'll be all right. Yeah, Revovo's going to be a good substitute, no doubt. Yeah, and Mayons will be good in his own right. But yeah, there's some help coming, but hopefully they can get themselves right. Yeah, and another team that was on the upward trajectory at the end of the season going in the right direction was Bath.
Rugby Transfers and Future Prospects
00:23:02
Speaker
Oh, were they ever? Regardless of what they did against a bunch of kids on Saturday, which they did well to do what they did.
00:23:10
Speaker
really putting in some stellar performances in the last few weeks of the season and getting themselves off on a good note. And obviously we get, it's going to be a while because I don't think they're going to kick off the prem until October next year. So it's going to be a bit, but it's still a great, it's still a great sign for themselves, obviously. And we, we saw the quality that they possess at the moment and, uh,
00:23:35
Speaker
They're apparently bringing in, what's the big prop, deux trois from the sharks.
00:23:44
Speaker
So that's going to yes, that's going to fit Russell. That's right infant obviously. So it's starting to work, which is great. You know, sometimes you don't know what the master plan is until way down the road. And I still have my moments where I question what the fuck man grounds doing. But yes, but seems to be getting there in the end. So I think I'll just continue to be patient and let it happen. But
00:24:09
Speaker
There were definitely some growing pains at the beginning of this season for a pass where they just looked absolutely. Well, I mean, did any team benefit as much from Worcester falling apart as as Baft did? I mean, oh, no. Between just to get Lawrence and Ted Hill. I mean, and then they and they added Alfie as well.
00:24:34
Speaker
Um, yeah, that is that he's, he's on the shelf at the moment, but still assuming they can get him healthy. That's another.
00:24:43
Speaker
That's another one to hang up, hang their hat on right there. So yeah, like those guys like have been such an impact on this and they they're what they needed. Like Ted Hill brought that heart that they really needed in that back through the back row, which they I mean, they've got some good players. Don't get me wrong. But it's gotta be more than just talent to and
00:25:05
Speaker
Yeah, he gives my view and all Elar fuck. Yeah Play of the year. It was best. Great. He's he's up there. He's one. He's definitely He's one of it. Oh, you weren't you weren't paying attention. What's that? Um, they had the they had the team of the year announced. Oh, look at that So is he in it
00:25:29
Speaker
Uh, he was a player of the season. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Player of the season. Um, Mark McCall's, uh, but his, his director of the year, Tom Pearson, his young player or breakthrough player of the season. Yeah. Um, dream team of Valor Pava Ruskin, Montoya, rich Yoni, which I.
00:25:51
Speaker
Okay. George Martin, David ribbons, Ben Earl, Tom Pearson, Jasper visa. Okay. Alex Mitchell, Robert to Priya. Yep. Who is that? Mattel credit us. Okay. Dingwall, Lawrence, Kate Murley, and Joe Carpenter is your Yeah, Joe Carpenter, the great season out of nowhere. Yes, we'll talk about him. We get to the sharks. But damn, yeah.
00:26:18
Speaker
Yeah, so good on Bath and they're doing good things over there at the Rec, so keep on at it.
00:26:24
Speaker
A team that's been... The try of the season was somehow Mateo Carreras and not Caden Murley for that one that we were at. Fuck that. Oh, dude, but the Carreras one was unbelievable. God damn. What do you do with that other than just go, yep, hats off, done. You just throw your hands up and say, yeah, okay. Yeah, well, I mean, let's also bear in mind the common opponent there, too. Saints. Yeah, definitely.
00:26:49
Speaker
Um, a team that did not go on the correct trajectory. And I think it's still going to be on the way down. Maybe they'll prove us wrong. Exeter, um, three buddy. Yeah. Oh, I guess Luke Cowan Dickey is coming back. Cause cause he failed his, his neck is next fucked. Well, so is he even going to be healthy enough to play? That's the next question. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. That's the question that has to be asked after that. You know,
00:27:21
Speaker
So I don't, I don't know. It's just changes the style of Joe Hawkins. Okay. Yeah, but whatever. Exactly. Well, like they don't inspire me when terms, I don't, I'm not, I'm not impressed. They're young guys, you know, like they, they have some great young talent, but they don't, they refuse to use it and they, you know, would rather use a old bastard like Ian Whitten. Like what's the point of that? Right.
00:27:50
Speaker
So I look at all the players that are leaving. That's like. And they're still quality. This is like if it's not purposeful, if they're not like just like a snake molting somehow. I don't know what they're doing. They're just going to make fools of themselves. Yeah, that's what that's. I mean, I'm not like I'm not worried about it. Don't get me wrong. But like, yeah, if I'm, you know, from their perspective, I'm worrying about that, like.
00:28:18
Speaker
Who the fuck you got? Yeah. I mean, they're going to have to change their style. So maybe that's what their thing is. Maybe that's, you know, except like if you're going to change your style to a more open play, Simmons should be sticking around. Yeah. Both of them. You want them around. That's their thing. Yeah, you want Kirsten and yours and Harry Williams and Noel to go. Yes, you're fine with that.
00:28:46
Speaker
Yeah, she was like you need to keep your your serves. Yeah, you keep your nights. You got to keep them them open field boys. I don't know. I'll be worried about it when they actually figure out how to win games. Right. So I'm OK seeing all this. This is hilarious. You know, Quinn's. Another team that I think we need to worry about a little bit because they just don't know what to do when Marcus Smith's not playing.
00:29:16
Speaker
Yeah. And that's going to be a problem because he's going to get picked for England more often than not. Yeah. Because now, yeah, Tommaso Allen's gone. Yep. I mean, there were some young names on the market for them to sign. And I don't think they bothered to sign it. So I hope they have a plan B and I'm right. I believe in I kind of would like to see Will Hayden would go to. Yeah, I would have liked to see that, too, rather than exit or exit.
00:29:45
Speaker
I do believe that they have a plan over there at Queens. They've proven that they do. So I'll give them benefit of the doubt. But damn, I'd be... That's the question that needs to be asked. Who is playing when Marcus Smith is gone? Right. And they've brought in some...
00:30:06
Speaker
Potential answers to when Danny cares done and we don't know when that's gonna be but it's not far Certainly a lot for a lot closer than far that's for sure. Yeah So there's that we know they I don't think it's a Joe Martian is a huge loss And we saw he didn't he was pretty absent on on Saturday
00:30:31
Speaker
Kate and Marley was not. Fuck, he was good. I mean, I saw Joe Martian around good things happening. They just weren't being done by him. But he just wasn't contributing. So he's a huge loss, and I think they'll be OK with Northmore. By the way, the reason we didn't talk about the extra game, because it was shit. It was garbage. I watched it, and I almost fell asleep. And I honestly can't remember if I watched it. Well, that's it. Exactly. It's very not memorable. Right.
00:30:59
Speaker
And we'll talk a little bit more about the bath game when we talk about series. But yeah, the Quinn's will be okay without Marship because they have Northmore. And we've seen the good part of Northmore. He also has his bad parts, but you gotta believe that they'll coach those out of him soon. And if he doesn't, then he'll get found out and then they'll be in really deep shit. But- But I feel like if anything, Harley Quinn's really kind of tightened up this year. I feel like that's the problem.
00:31:29
Speaker
When they were at their best, it was that, you know, the four coach approach. And part of that was like not worrying about like doing one thing well, but just doing each of the things well and just playing rugby. And now it's more like they're trying to play within a, you know, they're more restrained again because they they're back to the, you know, the standard approach. And I think that's hurting them. I think they could do with a little bit more freewheeling.
00:31:59
Speaker
You're going to get an argument on me. Yeah. But like that. Oh, no, go ahead. That match, though. First off, I wanted to give a huge shout out, massive shout out to Hamish Smells. Oh, yeah. Because everyone talks out of a terrible fucking decision. It was. Yeah. Claire made a bad call. Oh, Claire again. As she does, she inserted herself in the match.
00:32:29
Speaker
Um, and, um, tempo is more than willing to listen and, and, oh, we wait, I can give out a card. Is there a card to be given? Like, Oh, this is great. Fuck. Yeah. Let's go. Let's, let's do it. And, uh,
00:32:46
Speaker
They like, they're like, you know, they're like, yeah, he's in no position to catch the ball. And it's, you know, and they're showing the replay and, um, shit, who was, it was, I got there. Yeah. Yeah. Mine is their first turns his back. So to shield anybody coming the other way and jump and start leaves his feet and Brown jumps over the back of them. Yeah. It's like you're jumping over someone's back. First off, they're in position and second off, like you've, you can't see you coming. Right. So you're being reckless.
00:33:17
Speaker
like whatever happens is on you. And they were going to they were going to go the other way until Hamish Smales is like, dude, that's not what's happening. Like, you can kind of see it didn't come across the mic. Thank God. But there was a clear like, dude, he's there first. Yeah. Like, look, he turns and then the guy and Brown jumps over him.
00:33:37
Speaker
And that's when Tempo was like, wait, what? I didn't see that. There was part of it that came over and Tempo was like, oh, I didn't see that. And he's like, let's have it back. Let me see this again. And then he'll watch it again. He's like, oh yeah, that's exactly what fucking happened. What are we doing here? What are we doing here, man? Yeah. But that's the thing. They have these things that set in their head about, OK, something bad happened. We got to penalize the guy who didn't catch it. But it's not true.
00:34:03
Speaker
That was awesome. Thank you Hamish Smells for saving this match. Although Ben and Ashton went and did something stupid. What a shitty way to go down. There was a Billy Crystal movie back in the 90s or whatever called
00:34:23
Speaker
I was like goodbye to Harris or something like that. And he's a basketball official and he tosses Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in his last match, Abdul-Jabbar's last game.
Chris Ashton's Career End
00:34:35
Speaker
And Kareem goes, it's my farewell match. And he says, well, let me be the first to say farewell. Yeah, it was a red. It was a red all day. It was really no argument about it. Sorry, Ashley. And it's going to be a two week minimum, unfortunately. So sorry, dude.
00:34:52
Speaker
That'll be it. That's it. Yeah. Sorry, Ashy. Irish. But you know what? That's like, honestly, that's a great way to end a career. Yeah. You'll be remembered for a long time. You'll remember it. Oh, yeah. My last magic had a red card. Didn't matter, but yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's go. Let's go talk about the exiles. I've been trying to get there because my wife was there. It's OK. Yeah.
00:35:23
Speaker
lots to love there's something missing though we know there's yeah we know there's well there's lots to like about what's on the field the exception of one right did we know there's problems off the field as well and we know there some of those were caused by the one on the field which is kind of uh the fuck did you expect type of moment really right it's like uh right did you expect different because
00:35:49
Speaker
you had one of your biggest sponsors bail because you signed this fucker. And I'm sure they got a warning from it too, like don't do this. Yeah, exactly. And when you get a warning from your biggest sponsor and you don't listen, you wonder where the money went. Right. And it's like now you're paying a shit ton for a guy who's toxic. Yeah, that's true. It's going both ways. And it's just like,
00:36:15
Speaker
Thumbasses and he's not that good right? He was the top point score this year, but he also played like But almost every 1918 matches. Yeah, I think he plays every match because oh well a He's not good enough to play international book B because of what he's done They won't play him. He's toxic. He's no they won't touch him
00:36:37
Speaker
Nope. So like, you know, what does that say exactly about you picking him up? But it's like, yeah, nobody wants him. And he plays a lot and they score a lot of points, too. And I don't know that that's really exactly due to him because they've got some fucking talent. Well, they do had some idea of what is leaving. Yeah, some of it is leaving. Yeah, I don't. And it's.
00:37:08
Speaker
It's going to be hard for them in my view, at least to find more lucrative sponsors to help them bail themselves out. And I know there's somebody interested in buying the team as well. Um, but you're going to have a hard time convincing some of these big sponsors to pony up big money. Yeah. And you have this guy, I mean, at least for me, I like, if you come to me and, you know,
00:37:31
Speaker
I know you have this player and you're asking me for a big sponsorship. The answer is going to be a big N and O. If in like three years or whatever, somehow the free jacks are reported as sniffing around him.
00:37:49
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm going to be pulling back from side myself, be like, dude, do not sign this fucker. I'm canceling my season tickets if you do it. Yeah. Right. Play in simple. Done. So, yeah, it's just not I'm perfectly happy that they did not make top four. No, I think a lot of people are too. A lot of people are as well.
00:38:11
Speaker
But they do have a lot of good things going on there.
London Irish: Talent vs. Financial Woes
00:38:14
Speaker
Pearson, cutting himself. Oh, he's going to be good too. What's up? Chandler cutting himself is going to be fucking ridiculous. Ben White.
00:38:24
Speaker
Obviously we saw him storm onto the international scene this past Six Nations as well. So good on him. And they had a couple of props for that U20s team. I think they had two props on the England U20s team that were just storming through that tournament. So through the U26 nations. So something else to consider too.
00:38:48
Speaker
They have, they've got guys coming. Chandler Cunningham stopped playing in that tournament so he could play with London Irish. That's pretty cool. He's like, I'm done playing with the boys. I'm ready to go. I'm going to do this thing for real. I'm not convinced about their 12 Jennings.
00:39:08
Speaker
But I like his heart. If that was his only if that was their only hole, then they'd be in good shape, but it's not. Well, I mean, it wouldn't have been because ideally, you know, ideally would have been been hard. Janssen Rensberg at 12 and Curtis Rona at 13. But.
00:39:26
Speaker
Yeah, that was Rona fucked off. So that was as well. Yeah. So I thought Jennings did a good job filling in like because they needed a spot. And I thought he did a good job. Right. Filling in there. And he laid the wood like he really showed no like blatant disregard for his personal safety. That's blatant disregard for your safety, sir. He's not like
00:39:53
Speaker
He took the worst of some hits. I remember he took some hits against sale. I think one of the Duprizes he stepped in front of. Yeah, that sounds about right. I think he won the matchup. I think he took him into touch.
00:40:07
Speaker
Fucking excellent work, but I think he also knocked himself out doing it. So that's like about par. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, okay. And they didn't play amazing on Saturday. They actually kind of had a spark when surprise, surprise, Tom Ears Pearson entered the game. Shark of the day. They got to get rid of. So he's crap. He was not helpful. I really don't like him at all. I think he's near useless.
00:40:36
Speaker
That's the other problem is they have too many, they have a lot of extremely useful, like their average player is on the more useful side, you know, from the average of the prem. But the problem is that they have like guys who are so fucking useful up here and then guys who are like anti-useful. Yeah. So many times, yeah. Oh, Rob Simmons kept getting hearted. Like, it's just too many guys who were,
00:41:05
Speaker
No good. Unhelpful. Can't do that, man. Can't do that. Yeah. And that's what that's kind of what, what ended up dragging them down. Definitely.
Saints' Offensive Prowess
00:41:13
Speaker
And then Northampton, um, they weren't sure they were going to be competitive for a while because they couldn't stop a nosebleed. They're really good. And they still can't, but still can't, but at least they can score points now. Right. Right. They figured out the,
00:41:30
Speaker
They had to figure out how to attack no matter what game they were in because their defense was not holding up no matter who they played.
00:41:39
Speaker
You know, you've been fucked. Didn't the series B team put four tries on them? Something like, yeah. With a red card? Because McCall was like super happy after the match and they lost. Right. Because they got the bonus point. Exactly. And fucking dipstick Taylor got sent off too. Right. Oh, that was bad. He's actually, he's gone now. He is. He's leaving. And leaves room for Ollie Hartley, who we'll talk about in a little bit. But,
00:42:08
Speaker
Overall, I really love what the Saints have done, certainly to the eye test and like, you know, you and I got to witness it personally, obviously as well. So that just makes it more fun. But yes, they have defensive problems and they need to fix this if they ever want to remain competitive year round and if they ever want to make a dent in Champions Cup. But God damn, that attack can be fun to watch.
00:42:32
Speaker
We talk about Tom Pearson being the young player of the year, right in that running, had to have been Finn Smith and his development just right before our eyes as this blossoming, wonderful, attacking 10 that the Saints have. It feels like it was just this season when we saw Dan Bigger playing 10 for the Saints, consoling a Worcester playing
00:42:58
Speaker
Finn Smith after Bigger just worked him over and giving him lessons and telling him how he did it and how to be a 10 and whatnot. Wait, that was like this season. It was like week two or three. And fuck it, there we are with Finn Smith leading the Saints at the end of the season to
00:43:24
Speaker
Yeah. Two semis. Yeah. And yes, you're going to lose games within young 10, what they managed. And he's really come along to be.
00:43:37
Speaker
extremely helpful, certainly an attack. There's no helping their defense. That's not his fault. It was like that when he found it. He's not making him worse. He can't really do it. There's no way to make it worse, really. Right. So that's like perfect for him. It's like, okay, kid, just go score points because we need it because we're not. We ain't stopping anybody. So we're just going to have to outscore him. It's going to attract me. And he obliged. So, yeah, good for real good for him.
Leicester Tigers' Gameplay Critique
00:44:02
Speaker
Yeah. And the balance they have in
00:44:05
Speaker
that, you know, that back five of the pack, for sure, with the likes, and they have some, they actually have quite a few options now, which is kind of fun. But you have their main options being coals, ribbons, laws, Zalchai Lotto, Angus Scott Young, Ludlum, truck, and then yeah, mix in mood now and again, and Hinkley now again. And that same gram. Yeah, and gram. And that's,
00:44:36
Speaker
That's a missing somebody. There was there was some I thought there was another person other than Sam Graham, but maybe I'm thinking Sam Graham. There was somebody else who was I forgot someone in if I have my bed. I can't remember. But anyway, so that is it. That is a lot to learn. They're going to lose ribbons, obviously. So I had to see him go, but he's got to go make his money. He's got to go make his bones now. And I don't blame him. Right. Not at all.
00:45:02
Speaker
So it's, it's a lot to like, and, you know, they were, they were on the by this week, obviously. So they, they're all warmed up for what's, what's coming for them at the stone X. Yep. Um, and then tigers, man, it feels weird to think about the tigers team that you and I witnessed at, at the stone X is this team because that team was bad.
00:45:28
Speaker
And this team is not good. It is not the opposite. It is very good. It is. It is pretty good. I'm not sure it's not what it was last year still. No, I don't think it is still. There's certainly kinks there and waste. Like, I mean, that team really had no business losing to to Quinn's. And really, they should. That's what they should. They should have had a little bit like because, look,
00:45:54
Speaker
Yes, to play against sale, you're going to need to play some hard-nosed rugby. But you're not beating Saracens the way they're playing this year, unless you can open it up a little bit too. And if anything, I would have taken the opportunity for Leicester to open it up. But they played really tight. I'm not liking that. I think that's my problem with Leicester, is that they play too tight.
00:46:17
Speaker
Yeah, a little because when they go when they when they get like a little bit of get up and go when they start improvising a little bit, they're fucking excellent.
Sale Sharks' Season Success
00:46:27
Speaker
But for two. Right. And I think they should just play more to that than they do. But they like, you know, again, these coaches like that rigid style. Yeah. Be interesting to see how it happens. Damn, it comes in next year. Yeah. Yeah. I'm coming up from Australia.
00:46:48
Speaker
Yeah. And they'll have Hassel Collins and Josh Bassett. Josh Bassett, they'll help, obviously. Yeah, they'll have some guys. They're getting help. Yeah, they are getting help, no doubt. Well, then, yeah, sale. Obviously, he took care of Newcastle this past weekend. Brother Handley, I think Roebuck was all over the place. Shocker of the day, right? It's... I mean, yeah, Player of the Year was Lawrence, but man,
00:47:17
Speaker
in that running should have been Bobby Dukes. Yeah. I mean, there's a reason he was the 10 of the year, because I mean... Right, absolutely. He will be mine too, but... There's... There's every reason to believe that when AJ announced he was leaving and then Ford got hurt in that final, you know, you could have just written sale off and nobody would have blamed you. Right. It's like, all right, who's going to play 10? And the Robert Dupree that showed up the last two or three years,
00:47:47
Speaker
would not have gotten this team to a second place finish or at least put them in position for it. Right. They would have been scrambling for fourth at best. Right. Because we saw him last year and he was like a net negative. He was one who was, he was, it just wasn't working. Whatever he was trying to do was like the wrong thing. And it was too forced and not like certainly not open enough. Um,
00:48:17
Speaker
And this year he really flung the ball around. He moved that ball around. He worked this attack. And I can't really define it, but it's one of those things when you see it, you know it. And yeah, and obviously everybody's seeing it, and it's that he's putting the play. Everybody's getting the ball right where they need it when they need it. The timing is perfect.
00:48:40
Speaker
They're hitting holes, but they wouldn't hit without a good pass. Right. I mean, shit, you made Sam James look good for a while. Right. Like Sam James. He made guys look good. Yeah. Like that's. That's what a 10 does, right? If you guys are looking good around him, it's usually because the 10 is putting him in good spots. Yeah. More often than not. Yeah, so I it's it's and then he
Saracens' Youth Strategy
00:49:10
Speaker
He didn't have to be amazing, which he was for the whole year. We knew that. And then we knew around sometime around January, February, they would get forward back. But that was always going to have its own growing pains, too. That was the thing. It did. It did. But man, they've been good. Yeah, they've been really good. When it got there, it got there. And now they're a threat. No question.
00:49:35
Speaker
I would like to see them reopen it up again. I feel like Ford is doing his thing again, which will work. There's nothing wrong with it per se. It's just, I think, again, a team that can play defense and play open attack can still get through their defense. It's one of those like they have a perfect defense. If you go a little bit of like clockwork type attack, they'll grind you down. Yeah. They can be had if you get a little inventive.
00:50:07
Speaker
And succeed at it. It's also the opposite, you know, it has its pluses and minuses there. You know, if it goes wrong, it goes wrong. And then obviously, Saris, on Saturday, I didn't get to watch it live, but what I saw of that team really makes me happy in terms of
00:50:35
Speaker
Yeah, we had some kids that definitely looked out of the water over their head. They were just like, what is going on around here? But then you have kids like Ollie Hartley, who I believe they got off the wasp bullshit. And I don't know why we're not going to use him next year because we're gonna. They used Duncan Taylor this whole year. They probably could have used Ollie Hartley when we got him instead.
00:51:02
Speaker
They really don't have now that now they're leaving themselves no choice, which is great. It also from what I've noticed, it takes them about a year. Of getting like the same thing with Tom Howell, like he barely played this year, but we know we know he can play too. I think they like getting guys in.
00:51:21
Speaker
to their system first. They're like, okay, great. You have, yes, you have amazing athleticism, but we want you to learn our way of playing before you get to play with that A side. The A group, yeah. So I think they're, you know, even if they play well, it's like, well, you still fuck this, this, and this. And, you know, if you play that way in a championship match, we lose. So you got to wait a little bit. That's as cold as, you know, that's why Mark McCollough is the director of the year, because
00:51:50
Speaker
Like, yes, it's not about just getting your best guys out there, but it's about getting the guys who, you know, won't fuck you over. Yeah. Some play coaches haven't quite figured that out. Yeah, more often than not. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And now that the weather's dry, they're playing open again, which is great.
00:52:07
Speaker
I thought Manu had a wonderful performance trying to lead you. That try was sweet. Oh man, that second try was fucking... His first try, by the way, his only try was awesome. I mean, yeah, boy can scoot and just...
00:52:21
Speaker
You know, you looked at him and he grew up a little bit because he knew he had a lot of players with him that were probably younger than him. And he's not that old. I know he's not super young, but he's not that old. You know, so like him and and Shagan had to kind of just pull everybody up by their britches and be like, let's go. Like, yeah, we're doing this. It was kind of those two were like dragging everyone else along.
00:52:45
Speaker
I thought the Lucy's did all right. I was pretty impressed with Knight. Yep. He's really a good town. He's just, he is going to take a little bit. I think he's going to end up more in like a Jackson Ray mold. Yes, I agree. Anything like, Oh, I think I would. Yeah, I know. I see him more of a, yeah, as a six.
00:53:08
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, that works because, you know, like if you want to go with him, Theo and Earl at some point. Yes, get that guy back. Damn it. Right. Soon. But next year, that'll be like him and Christie are going to lock down that six years for a while. Yeah, probably. But it's good that you need the depth because we know we're going to lose. Right. Exactly. You're going to need competition. That's just how it is. Right.
00:53:36
Speaker
everyone to compete on the guys who he's probably not going to be an England player. So, but he'll be a value, a valuable contributor when England players are away. Sure.
00:53:49
Speaker
Yeah. And yeah. And again, I want to, me personally, right. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that wants series to really get back to competing on two points. We got to the quarter file of champions cup. Okay. A lot of them hadn't been there. So it's forgivable to just kind of go cool. We can live with this, but we want to get back to,
00:54:15
Speaker
Yeah. And I don't want to pin anything on anybody because it's, but then it is fine margins. I thought Alex Gude had a pretty, by his standards, I thought he had a bad year. Yeah. Like his, his, his running, his return, his kick return has been like just dog shit this year. And it's not.
00:54:35
Speaker
It's not him, it's his decision making. He's running back in towards the forwards too much and getting crushed by a prop and then losing the ball. And he's got a trust in him. You're not as young as you once were, man. Right. Go into space. Run the space. Don't run the prop. Run the space.
00:54:52
Speaker
Like you can't, you can't squeeze through that gap anymore. It's close. It's not close, dude. Like I, look, I remember, and I know it's, we're talking about different levels of rugby here, but I remember when those gaps that used to be like, why I'd be like, woo, we're going became a, by the time I get there, holy shit, it's done. I'm getting driven back. I remember that. Yeah. That's what's happening to you. It sucks. Make better decisions. Yeah. Start making decisions, man. Right.
00:55:18
Speaker
Okay. Um, let's jump over to the other side of the world here. Okay.
Chiefs vs. Highlanders and Drua vs. Hurricanes
00:55:23
Speaker
Yeah. We'll fly through this a little bit here. Uh, well, we don't need to hang out around the Highlanders chiefs too much. Um, Nope. Cause the Highlanders didn't hang around as much either. I mean, ALB, ALB number 100. Congratulations to you, sir. Uh, that was a nice presentation that they did. And it was just happened to be luck that they're playing his brother's team. So that was, that was cool. Um,
00:55:47
Speaker
Yeah. Did I mention that Sean Seaweed is like stupid good? Yes, I think you did. Yeah. Fucking hell that. But it's worth mentioning again. Yeah, it's definitely worth mentioning again. I don't know how you don't pick him from the old facts right now. Oh, I think they got to. They have to. They have to. Especially with Reese out. Like he's stupid good spots. Like it's got to be him and Talaya. Yeah. Yeah. Back there. They'll be up there for sure.
00:56:15
Speaker
Yep, the yeah, she's look great. Highlanders did OK for a little while, but eventually the Chiefs just hit the gas button and said later. Yeah, there was only big there weren't. Yeah, it was never going to last long. I was never really. Yeah, they they scored early and I was like, OK, you're going to have to do more than that to get me concerned. Like I was like, yeah, all right, let's see you keep the amount worried. And yeah, the Chiefs go the next three and yeah. Never look back, she's found the.
00:56:45
Speaker
the mushroom in their, in their, in their box. Yeah. And hit go. And I think its name was Daniel Rona. Holy fuck is really well too. Damn.
00:56:59
Speaker
He's played really well. So, okay. She's had more options in the midfield. Shut up. Yeah. Over to Fiji. He's like, Nankevel didn't, he barely, he came on, yeah, he came on a little late and, you know, poor hippie will play this week. So yeah, they got some options there. We'll talk there. Over to Fiji.
00:57:18
Speaker
Drew will beat the Hurricanes. You know, I thought the Hurricanes played the wrong strategy. They should have treated this like a wet ball game because of the humidity and how greasy the fucking ball was. And had they done that, they would have won. Down to that, though. I thought they kind of got jobbed at the end there. Walker Lewery's second yellow was a second yellow. But before that, I felt Mossy took probably three rolls while Aiden Morgan was right there to try and pinch the ball.
00:57:48
Speaker
should have been a penalty on Masi, in my opinion. But the Hurricanes didn't play the right opinion. I was confident. So I didn't I somehow didn't get spoiled for this one. So I got to watch it just not knowing anything. And I was super confident that the Hurricanes were going to win this right up until the end, right up until those last. Yeah, there's two penalty kicks, the 75th and 79th minute. I was like,
00:58:19
Speaker
No, they got it. They'll be, you know, like, yeah, the jury was making it like, and that's not had nothing to do with like, I thought that that true play really well. I thought it did. Yeah. The hurricane like this was a proper like I, I, you know, as we said, we were doing the pick them last week.
00:58:36
Speaker
The Hurricanes are that kind of team. Drew just stepped it up to another level. But they do that too. They'll kick your ass. And especially when they're at home, they'll step up and bite you. I don't consider this by any stretch of bad loss for Hurricanes. No, it was a winnable game. I thought they didn't play the game plan, unfortunately. Absolutely. That's kind of where it was. I thought they should have won this one. So disappointing, but to me, not
00:59:03
Speaker
Doesn't doesn't change anything about the hurricanes this year. They're they're still my number two team when we get to. Um, you see there's force. Well, Jordan's back.
Crusaders' Dominance and Moana Pasifika's Struggles
00:59:17
Speaker
Wasn't oh fuck. What band was that? Back in the back in the day that if you see Jordan, yeah, OK. Oh man.
00:59:29
Speaker
Yeah, he's back and looking like he never left. And he's playing against the force too. So even if he's like at 50%, he's still going to look really good. He still looks good. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
00:59:40
Speaker
No doubt. But yeah, Crusaders look great. That piece was dominant in many aspects. It wasn't fair. This was not, the force are not, unfortunately, not a serious team this year. I'm disappointed. I'm like shaking my head and frowning at them like, come on, son, do better. Yeah, absolutely. That's definitely what it's a feel. That's definitely the feel. Blue's Moana. Moana.
01:00:08
Speaker
I felt so bad for these guys. They played their ass off. It was their first 80 minute performance. It really was. It really was. Unfortunately, unfortunately, it took for the game was for five minutes past past 80 and they got and they got. Oh, man. Literally got their back broken. Yeah. Well, not literally, but, you know, damn close. Extremely figure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what that last scrum was. That was them just creating absolutely obliterated.
01:00:38
Speaker
And I was like, I was so mad at that because I was like, Dad, come on, give him a fucking chance. Like, give him one more. And I'm like, OK. And then I thought about it and I was like, OK.
01:00:51
Speaker
give them one more and the same thing is going to happen because they have two guys in the bin already. They're just, they're too light. They got nothing else. Just, that's it. That's it. And I'm like, okay. I was at peace with it. I didn't like it. Still don't like it, but I'm a piece of it. Cause it was good to see them finally put it in for a little bit and blues got tested. And against the blues too. Yeah. That was a,
01:01:16
Speaker
I mean, if I'm the like the Blues were happy coming off and I think they're happy because like their coach will be less mad at them and they still get it still. Well, it's not a five point win, but.
01:01:27
Speaker
It's a little win, so that's really all that matters. Yeah, so get the dub. But you know, the guy, you know, coaches are going to hear chewing them up at the at film. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And given them what for at practice this week, especially because they got the Crusaders coming up. So I have a feeling that this was there. We have one eye on the Crusaders match. Yeah, that's also a chance that I'd say. Yeah, I agree. Well, it's war toss.
Waratahs' Win and Brumbies' Narrow Victory
01:01:55
Speaker
We asked it before, what the fuck is going on with the Reds? They did not. I have no I have no answer for this. Yeah, I know. I'm I'm I'm out of like reasons and all that. I OK. I will say this. I am officially done on Jack Campbell. He's in my like he's in my Jack Knoll. Yeah, he's just a guy. Johnny May category of what the fuck are you even doing on my pitch? Get the fuck out.
01:02:26
Speaker
Like, no, it's, you know, like when Red Hot Chili Peppers comes on the radio and I'm like, nope, I don't care what situation I want to, it's gone. Can't confirm as much. Can definitely confirm that. I see Jack Campbell in a lineup and I'm like hitting the fast forward button. I'm like, nope, done. Oh man. So yeah, there are some, okay, so I do have some comments, but like you have that back row.
01:02:57
Speaker
Why do you have that back row and you suck so much? How do you have that nine and you're this bad? I don't think Lawson Creighton's actually playing that poorly at all. Like you don't hear me banging down the door for Tom Walina, even though I don't think he's doing anything wrong either, but it's just that Creighton's actually been pretty good. Yeah, and a flute drop in this match, but still.
01:03:21
Speaker
What was it? Fluke drop late from this match as well. But still, he wouldn't have, he wouldn't have been the difference. Not really. No. I like him. I, yeah. Um, cause the war ties aren't, I don't think they're any great shakes. I'm not really that. I mean, they played really well ties this year. They played really well. Honestly, but they did, but like, yeah, how much pressure did they have on them though?
01:03:49
Speaker
I'm almost done really. I feel like that. And again, the score line flies easy to play well. And the red's a little bit because they got one at the end. Right. I think it was Revai that got one at the end for the red. So this is a much better score line than it could have been. Yeah. Right. Right. So this game was over. Yep, it is. It was. It is. And then.
01:04:17
Speaker
No little CEO showed out against the Rebels and Rebels played pretty well in this match too. But Lola CEO is giving the middle finger there. Our old friend Eddie Jones and I am here for it. I am here for that. You have my support young man. And the thing is Eddie should be here for that but I still think I don't know that he is. Either way, yeah, he's been immense.
01:04:42
Speaker
Lately. Oh, man. Yeah. What a day he had. And just trying to make a point. Like, dude, pick me. Yeah. It's not hard to see. Oh, and Jerome Brown is back, by the way. Yeah. He played pretty well. I like, you know, he only had two tries. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big old bucket of meh. Yeah. Bobby V played well, too.
01:05:10
Speaker
He did. He's it's nice to see him come and come around. But I think that also helps with someone as talented as Jerome Brown around because they don't. They I think they've missed him a lot because I mean, they've well, they've had. You see, I'm a lucky loner. I was having kids. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I used the ball got caught up in it. I were just held on to the jersey with the ball and I've been like, bye. Yeah.
01:05:40
Speaker
Apparently you can't play with your kid off. Lame. No. That's so lame. Lame. Like, dude, I have the ball. I still remember. And then I can put it back on afterwards. Shit. Who was it? Who was it? It wasn't Jason Witten. Wasn't Jason Witten running 70 yards without his helmet on? Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Tackle him without a shirt on. Who cares? I mean, those shirts don't
01:06:08
Speaker
Like, look, I, again, on, you know, on the belt time, like, I remember playing in the big cotton jerseys that if someone just grabbed a hold of, you're done. That's it. And I remember when we, everything started switching over to this, like, you know, moisture wicking, like, oh, fruit, fruit material, like nothing at all.
01:06:33
Speaker
It was like people miss tackles because like your hands just slipped right off of it. You had to learn better tackling. Fuck. Without a shirt, it doesn't matter. Like what's the fucking difference? It might be actually, he might be grippier with a shirt on. This might actually be bad for him.
01:06:58
Speaker
And, you know, as I learned, if you have your shirt off around rugby people, you get hair pulled out. So, um, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Can confirm also that. So yeah, it's, it's not good for him. This is like, let him play. Let the boy play. Yeah. I, the end, the end was. Yeah. They call, they.
01:07:26
Speaker
Yeah, I think the, the rebels had the, had a shot at this thing, but they really, they just, they bottled it. They'll, they'll learn how to win these things. Yeah. And it is the Bronx too. Cause it's there also that there are the best team in Australia by far. So.
01:07:45
Speaker
It's troublesome. It's not going to be the easiest matchup. And Rebels are, they're getting better. Their, their, their losses are tough. I guess that you actually was going through that for our pickums for later. And the Rebels losses are too, like the best teams like in the com. And the Brumbies are up there. So unfortunately not great. Agreed. Uh, quick.
MLR Eastern Division Overview
01:08:14
Speaker
turn and burn on the MLR. Prejects are off. We're off, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
01:08:32
Speaker
Can you deal with that? No, you can't. They really can. I mean, this is not, it's not fair. It's not, I mean, it's fair. It's totally fair. Perfect. They're the only team with a winning record in the East. Yeah. Kind of bad.
01:08:54
Speaker
Ironworkers are kind of poo, NOLA is kind of poo, OGDC is kind of like, and then they're getting, and the Frayjacks are adding walk code. Like, yes. Yeah. No. I mean, did you see that? Did you see the Jackals OGDC match at all? No, I didn't. It looks ugly as shit though. It's seven to three. It was terrible. It was like zero, zero at half. And like, it was, it was literally like,
01:09:20
Speaker
watching monkeys trying to hump a football.
01:09:27
Speaker
Like it was that bad. It was like, guys, they, they could do something things. And then all of a sudden now we're going to give it away. So like it was, it was kind of end to end like plate ball. It's one of poker with a stick do something. Yeah. Like the 22 is not the try line. Like there's still more field to go. We're trying to get to you boys. Yeah. They were just playing on the mini field. That would have been an entertaining held game, but they, they still had like 20 meters before anything cool really could have happened before. And then it fell apart.
01:09:56
Speaker
Yeah, pretty bad. Um, yeah. So I was kind of, I was almost like watching a tennis match. Like, Ooh, are they going to score this way? No, no. Okay. Oh, are they going to score this way? No, no, no. They're going to score this way. Yeah. Yeah.
San Diego's Rise and Season Schedule
01:10:11
Speaker
No, no. Atlanta beach, Chicago. We talked about a little glory beach out Dallas, but ugly shit. It's in Diego one again. They're going to probably be.
01:10:20
Speaker
as we thought, probably one of the top two teams in the last in New York, just smushed Noah in New York. And that is that. Yeah, that is. And you just played one more game, but they're still on top. They're 10 and one Seattle played 10 games. They're eight and two. And then there is a season we go to.
01:10:51
Speaker
Hold the phone there, chief. Uh, let's see. It's around 14. This is round. We're coming up on around 13 coming up here. Okay. We go to 17, I believe. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Yes. Okay. 17. And then, um, 24th, 25th is the.
01:11:21
Speaker
Next. Is the is the not is the quarterfinal semifinal roof like you want to call it the wild card to play in game. Gotcha, then after that it's July 4th weekend, July 1st, July 2nd. That's the. Conference finals and then July 8th is the final. OK, so. Won't be long to get your get your tickets out to.
01:11:45
Speaker
to San Diego. Yeah, I mean, listen, I got people I can stay with. I got people I can stay with. Yeah, so we'll see how things pan out
Free Jacks' Strategy and Team Challenges
01:11:59
Speaker
anyway. But yeah, free jacks are on. We're on the way. They're not quite on cruise control. But no, no, they should definitely keep the pedal down because really, if if we have a shot at catching San Diego, I'd like to we still have to go. Right. Well, that's going to be a bitch.
01:12:15
Speaker
Oh, if we win that, then I'm going to be really, really fucking confident about our chances. Yeah, but if we can get JP, JP and Bodine together in a quick enough time frame. Yeah. Yes, please. That's good. Oh, man, there's so many fucking weapons. Yeah. Not that reason. And I feel bad for Reese McDonald and all this because because he was he's played really well. I know.
01:12:40
Speaker
And he's losing his job through no fault whatsoever. And he's probably going to be the back sub. He's probably in that top four and then they'll just sort something out. Definitely. Plus those centers are just unbelievable. Right. They've got a stable of centers that are just unfair. Yeah. Yeah. Old Glory. We're at Old Glory this weekend.
Upcoming Matches and Closing Remarks
01:13:01
Speaker
Back come back home to host Nola and then we're host then we host Toronto That's a Friday game. It looks like I hate that And then What's that Saturday game that'd be good if it's a Saturday game, please let me start again and then they're at Atlanta and
01:13:28
Speaker
Yeah. Then they go to Seattle. We'll see what's on the line by then. Actually, that'd be interesting. Well, teens will be in high form at that point. And then we host Houston. Okay. Cool. All right. Okay. That is that. That is our,
01:13:50
Speaker
This is our rugby pod. The fancy pod is coming up soon. Fancy's up next. Fancy coming up next. So if you're joining us over there, we'll see you over there. We're going to talk all champion league things and fancy rugby things and whatnot. Start said all that good shit. If we're going to see you over there, we'll see you over there. If not, and this is where we leave you. We do appreciate you.
01:14:08
Speaker
you for listening to us and letting us babble into your ear for just a wee bit. We'll catch you all next week after the premise of my finals and the round 12. Get into the business end of the super rugby season here as well. So hang on, hang on for dear life and we'll talk to you all next week. Enjoy the rugby. Have a good one. Later.