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Season 5- Episode 35- Adjust Yourself (Champions Cup SF & Super Rugby Round 10)
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It's more fun stuff from those American rugby fools. On this episode of TFRY we are talking about the Semi-Finals of Champions Cup. We look back at the ill discipline from Toulouse & excellent display from Leinster in Dublin, as well as the poor defense from Exeter and the relentlessness from La Rochelle in Bordeaux. Then it's time to look at the return of full on Super Rugby action as we get to the business end in that competition, including a phenomenal match at the FMG. We'd also have a look at the great one between the Waratahs and Highlanders, but Flo sucks so we couldn't. Finally, we bring it home and discuss the action in Quincy as the Free Jacks hold on to the Chowder Cup and send New York packing. Kick back, have a glass of something good and enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:02
Speaker
It is... The Fantasy Europeans. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion! Collusion!
00:00:27
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Here we go. Big past weekend in many ways. It's going to be. Yeah. Yeah. We got lots to talk about. Champions Cup, Six Nations, obviously super rugby, all that good stuff. And then a busy in-person weekend for us. Yes. I know. Good Lord. Who made me an adult? We need to have a word with them.
00:00:57
Speaker
like wherever their supervisor actually. Let's get you a carrying cut. Yeah.
Support for the Fantasy Rugby Geek
00:01:05
Speaker
Do make sure that you share us on your favorite podcast app. Great review, all that good stuff, comment, feedback, so on and so forth. Make sure that you are supporting our good friend, the fancy rugby geek.
00:01:22
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Good friend George by buying him a coffee or a beer. Sorry. I'm very distracted by my beer right now. So I need to take a sip Anywho, but yeah, make sure you click on his link in this profile by by me a coffee and you know much appreciate it because a few of you out there probably have a final to worry about this weekend and He is probably gonna help you. So I would definitely give him a
00:01:47
Speaker
a little bit of a hand there. Okay. Yeah. And it does suck to feel absolutely no stress this weekend. I'm like, Oh, well, you, on the other side, on the other hand, like I don't get it. Yeah. On the other hand, you could be in the SACO. Which I am. I have did avoid. Yeah. And so there's that. So you got yourself a point in the chant and the standings and all that stuff. So not so bad.
Sports and Social Issues
00:02:14
Speaker
As always, for us here on this podcast, there is no discrimination, nor should there be in sports or in life. Similar instances with different outcomes going on here. And yeah, yeah. Story of the day. Yeah, there was just the other day there was a it's this it's like the microcosm of society all in like a little one little bit. And it's twice this week it happened in the US where
00:02:43
Speaker
on, I think it was Monday, there was a video that came out of this, uh, one of your hero stopping what appeared to be, um, shoplifting at a TJ max. And even the police report wrote it up as that. And he like fought this woman. Like he grabbed her and then like smacked her a couple of times to stop her. And, um, turns out that no, she, she
00:03:07
Speaker
bought the stuff she had and was just like running out to like meet an Uber or something like they but they spun it and like people the guy felt like you know he felt empowered to do it and obliged to do it obviously you're stepping what the fuck am I gonna do like stepping in front of someone like first off if you see someone shot uplifting no you fucking didn't look like
00:03:34
Speaker
Like, why, why? What are you gonna, what does it matter? Really? Who's like, is it not a victimless crime? No, but like, you know, who's really losing out on what here? And people are desperate. And like, if they're not doing this for fun, they're doing it for survival. So if it happens, it happens. I've not seen people shoplift. What the fuck do I care? Sorry, CVS. I saved you five, or I didn't save you $5 or something. Fuck off.
00:04:02
Speaker
Um, but then there was the incident in the, um, the New York subway at the subway. Um, where, uh, the gentleman was like, who actually, if you, um,
00:04:16
Speaker
look up who this man was, Jordan Neely. He performed on the subway for money and things like that. He was just a kind of New York, one of those New York character kind of guys. And apparently really nice, but had been having mental problems and was making a scene but not being violent. And this guy just choked him and put him in a chokehold and held it for like 15 minutes and killed him.
00:04:43
Speaker
And like the police let him go and they're like, yeah, whatever. You know, he helped. So what the fuck did he help? He murdered somebody. You know, again, that's the stigma of mental health that we talk about, too. Right. Coupled with the I feel it's my job to enforce the law. Along with the racism like, oh, you're an agitated African-American gentleman. I.
00:05:08
Speaker
It's my job to calm down the situation, just stop the situation. And it's like, no, like just if the guy needs help, you did not, you know, you did not help in any way. You killed him. No, like unbelievable. And that this is the way it's been gone. Like it's been done up in the meat. It's it's sickening. Like it's really fucked that this is the way our society sees things. Really fucked. Yeah, I agree. And it's
00:05:36
Speaker
I will continue to kind of bang the drum of there needs to be better responses in terms of mental health like training. Some sort of service you can call where trained professionals will try and help out someone that is clearly mentally ill or mentally disturbed or having some sort of mental episode where an average person is not going to be able to calm them down unless they also have training.
00:05:57
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm definitely an advocate for it. The police should not be called in that situation if possible. Right. Oh, exactly. They don't make things better in those situations, more often than not. And that's explained away. Like, oh, well, he was having a mental illness episode, so we killed him. And that's okay. What the fuck? That is not an okay explanation. No way. Right. And yet it gets accepted.
00:06:21
Speaker
No, thanks. No, it's not. This isn't good. And it would be nice if we had leadership that actually cared about it. Instead, they're just like, oh, that's just the way it is. It's pretty awful. Or they encourage it. That's the two we get to choose from is the, oh, what do you want us to do about it? Versus the, hell yeah, that's pretty awesome. Let's do more of it.
00:06:52
Speaker
Absolutely. There we are. And away we go. But if you can think about that the next time you see stories like this, then maybe help help change the narrative somehow, please. Because we can't let that we cannot let that go on it completely unanswered. It seems to me. Agreed. Agreed, sir. Which is why the discrimination here is important in sports and in life.
00:07:19
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Yep, agreed.
Fantasy Rugby Season and Podcast Milestones
00:07:21
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In the meanwhile, make sure that you grab our Patreon. We are coming to a close here at the end of the fantasy year. Only a few more.
00:07:33
Speaker
Yeah, a couple of weeks left in super well, you only got one week left in, uh, prom. So pretty, pretty not pretty, uh, pretty wild to think about. Right. I apologize for the lack of a sheet for those of you who prefer premiership, but at this point, I think, you know, one, one week's worth of data is not going to change your, your final, you know, your numbers heading into finals. Right. Keep them in keeps up. I apologize for that, but work got a really.
00:08:03
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annoyingly paperworky. So I'm doing spreadsheets and shit like that all day. I can't do it more. I'll do but with what you know, only the final sorry.
00:08:19
Speaker
Yeah, that does happen sometimes. You get to the point where you're like, yeah, the stuff that I would do for fun that I just did for work, fuck that. Right. That does happen sometimes. And I will do a final, I will post a final premise sheet. Not that it'll do much because we won't be another FRD next year. Right. But it's good. I don't know what exactly we'll have, but at least it's a good thing. Well, if there's something, it's helpful data either way. Right. Right. If we get to something,
00:08:48
Speaker
There's a chance that there's something we can do about it. So anyway, anyway, it'll be helpful. Sorry. That's more for the fantasy pod, but you know, we, we're coming to the end of our, really our Patreon season anyway. So we're not far away. Nope. And also we are coming on to episode 200. We're going to be, we're going to be there in about a month. Holy crap.
00:09:10
Speaker
Yeah, so we will, I think our plan right now is to potentially get our better house involved here. I bet you there are a few people that would be curious to see what they have to say. And of course we'll do some sort of open Q&A as well. Yeah, maybe we could do a Q&A session.
00:09:32
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Yeah, yeah, I think we'll do it open general open Q&A, but I think anyway that wants to ask questions to them. I think, I think, uh, yeah, that's true. Right. Maybe we could just record their answers or something. Yeah. Oh, we'll do. I think we can, I think we can figure something out here. Yeah. We'll be good. But yeah, episode 200 coming at you soon, kids. Hang on to it. Anywho, um, let's go to,
Rugby Match Discussions
00:09:59
Speaker
The wrap up of the six nations and. You know. I see 3833 and I'm not sure that it was that close. I have a different opinion. Oh yeah. My opinion of this match was that. In the second half. We saw what France.
00:10:22
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like what this game could have been if France played just a little bit in the first half. And especially if France had kept 15 on the pitch. That sometimes helps. The first half. I felt like it was a little bit of garbage time comeback a little bit, but
00:10:47
Speaker
they really started clicking in that second half. It was more than just like things weren't clicking in the first. It's not like England were, I mean, England were dominant because they, like everything that they did fucking worked. But I felt like France showed that this was certainly a proper match. It wasn't, you know, they're not that far behind. I think that the five point difference is, yeah, I think that's what this match was ultimately because France really dominated that second half.
00:11:18
Speaker
They had a shot. It was just the one. It was the Lark Davies try for bringing on. That was the only score. They couldn't. So he got rigid. So he says 41 minutes. Was it 40 plus one? I think it was 40 plus one. Yeah. Yeah. Because it was it was 33 and a half. OK. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it was it was into dead time there. Right. So no, I think
00:11:51
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Yeah, I think, you know, France could put up a really good fight and it was definitely a one, you know, kind of a one versus two, certainly from the northern hemisphere. So, um, yep. Hell, it was enjoyable. I don't care. Like I made it. I mean, like the, even the first half was actually enjoyable, even though it was a stomping, um, France were making them work for it in England. We're just doing the work.
00:12:14
Speaker
Yup. And getting themselves over. I liked their half and I liked the French half too. Yeah. I mean, and usual suspects for France too, Boulard, Vernier, Escudero, like these are the names you'll continue to see for... Benet, yep. Yeah, Benet for a long time here, I think. And Tromolier, who got on the board for the wrong reasons, but... Yeah, stop doing that. Still had a couple of conversions, but still... I would advise you to stop doing that. Yeah, I don't know.
00:12:44
Speaker
But on the grand scheme thing, and we will touch on the other two matches, but in the grand scheme of things, like just the picture at Twickenham.
00:12:55
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with these, these women being on display for their skills alone. No, this is not a curtain razor. This is not a, you know, they don't, they're not following up another match. This is their match. Right. And to put the bums in the seats that they did. And yeah, this was, and as you said, this was this ended up did end up being
00:13:15
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a decent match to watch for sure. Right. Was it competitive? No, that might be up for debate. It could have been. Yes. It could have been. But in terms of watch, totally worth it. Yeah. 58,000. Yeah. What, like 498, something ridiculous, something that's great. Yeah, it was great. Almost 59,000. Yeah.
00:13:43
Speaker
I'd love to see it. And you know, I love that Marley Packer raised the trophy between the two props. That was that did my heart. Good, obviously. I'm going to enjoy that. Two of my two of my like favorite props in the world. Yeah. And she's a character to say the least. Right. And then Sarah Byrne is just. Yeah. But it's.
00:14:11
Speaker
If you need more of a reason to start paying attention to the women's game, you're not going to be convinced. You'll be one of those late adopters that continues to have a flip phone until the very last flip phone's available.
00:14:36
Speaker
No, this is absolutely a product. It is sellable. And Rugby is. This was an awesome game to watch. Of all games that you can watch that are great on Spectacle, this was up there. It's not boring. You have to push it a little better. At this point, this is selling itself. Now you have to...
00:15:04
Speaker
work it a little bit and it'll it's gonna blow up right just like the prem could if they got they fucking a little bit smarter but we'll yeah we'll get to them get to there and i'll get to there later on um yeah so well done to england and and the women and you know everybody involved in this match and putting it on and making it what it was and it was this was a
00:15:31
Speaker
Perfect example of what this whole thing can be if we, if we let it. And that's the thing. I think we just need to stop putting the brakes on and let it go. Right. Do it. You know, too many people are pulling back on the brakes and we need to stop that. Right.
00:15:51
Speaker
You know, there's, um, I actually was watching the, this match, the Wales Italy match with, um, my girls team because we didn't have our, the film that was supposed to come to us did not come to us. I was like, whatever I have access to this. Let's just watch that a little bit. So, um, yeah, it was great. I was, I was glad it was actually a pretty good, the first half was really good to see the least at least. So, um,
00:16:17
Speaker
Italy kept, stayed right in it for a while, but eventually, you know, Wales definitely showed their class and showed their ability with the support they're getting. I felt bad for Italy in this match. I just felt like they were not, it just wasn't clicking. Yeah. And little inaccuracies, really. Yeah.
00:16:41
Speaker
It was like, just one thing would just go wrong every single, every single time. And they didn't, like, they didn't play poorly. They, and individually they had some pretty, pretty good games. I don't recall anybody who had a four, four match by any means. Right. But Wales were just, we're like, okay, we're just going to take advantage of this. Like you're going to have the yits. We're going to, we're going to just put a little bit more pressure on you and, and it worked.
00:17:10
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, the Medea try for Italy in the first half was brilliant. That was so well worked. Especially because it was in response to a try. Mm-hmm, yep. Yeah, it just kind of made that statement, like, we are not going away, but I mean, eventually Wales did shoo them away a little bit. Yeah, I mean, that did happen.
00:17:37
Speaker
Yeah. Do they score after half? No, they didn't know. It was just, no. Yeah. I'm credit to the Welsh defense for not letting that happy neither. So let's give credit where that's what that's deserved. Yeah. Just.
00:17:52
Speaker
Well done to Wales and that's that's it's nice to see. Now they're getting a little bit more support that they're able to show. Yeah, we're we're going. We're going to get there. We're going to be there with with the Francis and the England's in the not so distant future, right? Exactly. They're they're working. They're working towards it. They're progressing. I agree. I agree. And then. The reason that we probably the match up will talk about the second most from this tournament, at least from this round.
00:18:22
Speaker
For all the wrong reasons. In Scotland and Ireland and just. The Scotland have gotten a little bit more support recently. With contracts being awarded and a wider playing squad being. Well, they also have it. They play in the in the Prem too, like a lot of a lot of these players do. Yeah, or the alley on.
00:18:46
Speaker
what the Allianz, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. The, the red 15. Yep. Right. Like they're, they're really, they're pros. They are pros and they have that support. Whereas, you know, I, I assume, and actually I don't know this to be true, but do I don't, do Ireland have that same like,
00:19:04
Speaker
you have to play for the provinces rule? No. Okay. No, no. Cause they do have a couple that are that play in, uh, Allianz, but they don't, they, they have a lot of others that are playing in the all Ireland league, which as we know is good. It's not, it's certainly better quality than some of the stuff that we've seen, but it's certainly not the prem, prem 15s by any means whatsoever. And really it's not even close. Right.
00:19:31
Speaker
And they're just playing simple. They're not supported. No, they're not. And it's a shame. I saw something that was like the table matches the professional development.
00:19:54
Speaker
England came in first, they were professional first, then France, like then Wales, then Scotland, then Italy, and Ireland are last. They're last for a reason. Right. Because they're still sorting that shit out. So it's I feel bad for the players because they they're they're giving their all. I, you know, we all know what it's like
00:20:19
Speaker
to punch a little bit above our weight class and how much that just sucks. And it's demoralizing, especially over five matches where you just have to keep going at it again and again. And maybe this is the time when it all clicks for us and it isn't, that sucks. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to deal with. I agree. It really is. And it's, and you can, you can kind of see some of the goods that are coming from,
00:20:48
Speaker
Scotland professionalism a little bit and I'm not gonna fully credit it right now to that but with the likes of Francesca Mickey who is what all of 20 mm-hmm something like that maybe she's 19 whatever it is
00:21:07
Speaker
that she turns out, puts almost 100 meters on the board and scores. And we talked about it the other week with like Chloe Raleigh, like young players will see that and say, oh, I definitely want to play with her. And this is one of those examples. And again, I fully credit that or the professionalism, but that is an example of what could be to come for Scotland.
00:21:34
Speaker
And that is a fear of fear. A Scottish rugby fan. You should feel pretty good about that. Um, she only made her debut this, this, um, this tournament, I believe. Yep. So she's going to be one for the future. So duck and cover kids. She's going to be, she's going to light the world on fire. I think. All right. Let's go to, she's 19. She's 19. Whoo. Whoo. Wikipedia is accurate. Ooh.
00:22:04
Speaker
Wow. Okay then. So yeah, 19. She don't light the world on fire for a long time. That's not fair. That's awesome. And yeah, um, Chloe really had a cool tweet too. I can't remember what it was though. Um, shoot. I'll have to look it up. But, uh, yeah, like there she's getting out between her and me. Yeah, that's, you have, that's, you have a lot of hope in the back. Yeah.
00:22:33
Speaker
Really do really. There's a lot of promise there. Yep. Agreed. And I hope it comes. I hope it comes good. They deserve it. Right.
Champions Cup Semifinal: Leinster vs Toulouse
00:22:44
Speaker
All right. Let's go to champions cups in my finals. Let's go over to Dublin first. Trying to do it in chronological order and all that good stuff. This match was over.
00:23:05
Speaker
I'm not gonna say it because they did the six who split as much as I want to. That's not it. But it was, they could have saved themselves. No, they could have saved themselves by keeping DuPont at nine. He is fair. Hands down the best player on your team. Get him the ball more often. And they weren't. And I don't remember who the second chair on this was. I was like, the fact that I was nodding with him, I was like, God damn it, why do I have to knob in this guy? But I agreed.
00:23:35
Speaker
the best player possibly on the face of the earth, get him the fucking ball more. And how do you do that? You don't do it by moving him further away from the breakdown or further away from the scrum. You get him right there and make sure he has his hands on the ball almost every time you're on offense.
00:23:54
Speaker
Right. And if you're going to do what you did and move him away, okay, fine. Still fine opportunities to get this guy the fucking ball. And they did. So between the two, between that choice and the lack of execution of the game plan, otherwise they were fucked like to lose and have a shot. Sorry. And this is a wonderful team. Nobody would ever, you know, deny that, but the second they couldn't get him the ball more often.
00:24:21
Speaker
this Lancer team was always going to win. Right. You know, decisions be damned. Yeah. And right. And I'm here complaints and it's like that outside of it. It's like, no, Lancer or just it doesn't matter. It's like, yeah, did Barnes like that situation with Natty and Vanderflair, Natty and Vanderflair, like, did he go light on both of them? Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. He went light on them.
00:24:51
Speaker
So fucking what? Is there any decision? Yeah. Is there any decision you could have made that would have changed that outcome really? No. Get over it. Whatever. So it's not even worth the disagreement. Just move on. No. And they were still kind of in this when Mayafu got over it. I was like, okay, we might have something here.
00:25:15
Speaker
And then I didn't really feel it. Yeah, I never felt it. Like, I just was. No, this was Leinster for me almost. Yeah. Aki score getting over. I was kind of was I was like, all right, is this going to be a jolt or is this going to just slap Leinster in the face and not going to wake up? Right. But after Conan second try.
00:25:39
Speaker
And then she and I'm like, no, this game's over. This doesn't matter. Right. I mean, the Conan, because to me, the Conan tries were kind of like he did a good job. I'm not I'm not trying to take anything away from from Jack Conan, but it was kind of into a really soft defense. It really was not well defended.
00:26:03
Speaker
Not certainly not like nobody. No, there was definitely some dis defensive lapses to say the least, right. So, you know, for wasn't wasn't the whole thing about to lose that they were bringing some massive locks to bring the thunder and.
00:26:21
Speaker
I don't, I can't imagine Jack coming in on those two tries felt much thunder. So, no, probably not. Right. And then after the sheen trial, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. It's this end game. I mean, I was at this point, I was even not at this point, I was watching the the women's match. This was the this was always on the iPad for me. Probably says a lot. Right. So, you know, like.
00:26:49
Speaker
No. I didn't think to lose. We're really... No. They just weren't quite at it. They had ill discipline and not really bringing the defense like they needed to because this was a
00:27:07
Speaker
This was just a high powered engine coming at them with with Leinster and you got to give credit to the way Ross Byrne ran the ship. And we know we're not going to see Sexton ever again in the Leinster shirt.
00:27:23
Speaker
Right. And still there's no reason for panic whatsoever out of the lens of camp because they know Ross Byrne 100% has the ability to run this attack just fine. Right. And he's got the bodies around him. He knows how to use the bodies around him. And he doesn't need to be Johnny Sexton. He can be Ross Byrne and things are going to be okay. Right. Also, I got to say the, the, um,
00:27:51
Speaker
the penalty kick at 55 minutes. Um, for Rama, it was another one where I was like, what do you do? What do you do? If you have a nose, you're in a tri-fight, right? This is not, no, no, no, sorry. That was the, that was the ultimate like,
00:28:11
Speaker
We're good. We're done scoring now. Well, and when burn knocked the first two over, I was like, really, are we going to do this? Like, yeah. Let's figure about to go into a shell. Like I was a little worried about it. Nope. Nevermind. Nevermind. Nevermind. I mean, cause it just kept them within range. Um, it kind of made sense cause that like, we'll get over, we'll get ours, but just get some point. Like that to me felt like taking the scoreboard over just to let them know.
00:28:35
Speaker
Mm hmm. And then, yeah, and they knocked it down after that. That's what you have to do. You can, you know, we can pick the first two, but then you got that's tried after that. And fuck, did they do that? Yeah, they figured that one out. Yeah. They figured that one out pretty well. And you wonder that why they're they're just such a machine. We have this kid, Jake, Jenkins coming in, who's been playing a lot of the URC and
00:29:00
Speaker
performs very well, gets himself over, you know, we, they've been, they were developing Dan Sheehan a long time ago and then his opportunity came and now he's one of the best suckers in the world. Like, yeah, they're just lining him up one by one. That's all they're doing. Good to see Baird, Baird, uh, in the lineup too. We were, we were all worried about how bad his shoulder was and that he might miss out on the World Cup. So good on him. I'm glad he's healthy. I'm not sure he reasoned or miss it. I'm like Johnny Gray, unfortunately. Sounds like he's going to miss.
00:29:30
Speaker
That's that's a shame. Yeah with that Injury and I didn't see what he did though Dislocated knee cap. Okay, that's yeah, that's uncomfortable to say the least Yeah, I had a teammate do that to himself one time and it was like maybe the worst sound I've ever heard. Yeah, it sounds uncomfortable. I
00:29:54
Speaker
Yeah. But let's talk about Johnny's team anyway, which kind of was the Lauer show and Exeter. Yeah. You know, well, okay. Should I say that was maybe the worst time I've ever heard other than having to listen to Austin Healy in this fucking stage. Good Lord.
00:30:09
Speaker
Good Lord, he moaned from the start. He was complaining like Piper could hear him. He was acting like we do at a free jacks match. And like, well, we're just having fun with it a little bit. We're fucking around mostly, yeah. Right. Like everything, oh, that's not gone. You can't do that. That's a penalty. Like, oh, it's like, shut the fuck up. I think at some point somebody cut his mic because it was just like unbearable. Yeah, it was. My wife was like,
00:30:39
Speaker
thought you were watching the game. Cause I got, I had, um, how was I doing that? It doesn't matter. But she's like, Oh, I thought you were watching the game. I was like, I am. She's like, I can't hear it. I'm like, there's a reason I haven't, I haven't, I have the volume so fucking low. I can't stand to hear him. Um, anywho, to the match, a little bit of the same flavor in some ways where Simmons got over quick. But I mean,
00:31:08
Speaker
Sam Simmons and Ollie Woodburn. That's all I got for you on this team. There's not much else. You know, Joe Simmons is all right. He's not terrible. No, like he needs help. He's not. He's not like he can't be your third guy. No, he's got to be like, I mean, I saw Kirsten a lot because I saw that that shocker red hair, but I didn't see him do much.
00:31:35
Speaker
That was impressive. And OK, I also knew this was over because you probably didn't hear. Did you hear the interview with Rob Baxter in the first half? No. And it was and I can't recall exactly when it was. But it was him talking about how they they're in it and they just have to keep doing work. And that's what we talked to the guys about, you know, just doing work. And I'm like, I'm watching the game.
00:32:01
Speaker
And I don't see a plan. So it's like, if you're up, if you're like, I'm thinking that, you know, and you and I have had enough coaches like this where it's like, if you just do the work, you just hit the, you know, you, you know, you chop away at the wood. If that's it, that's your only plan is chop away at the fucking stump. Fucking what's his butt from used to coach Rutgers football. Yeah. You know, that was his name. Got there.
00:32:29
Speaker
That's it. That's all you have. Like, not a plan of attack of this defense. You know, as we talked about, or you and I were talking about pre-pod, like, you find out who the weak guy is on the other team, and then you just run the fuck at him. Right. Let's face it. I think most people would be more realistic
00:32:57
Speaker
if they're extra fans, understanding that this was a huge accomplishment for what they had. Getting to the semifinal. They had no business being here. No.
00:33:09
Speaker
No, they got here. Awesome for them. Like, yeah, probably shouldn't been here, but they got here. OK, it's kind of silly. Upset's in the long way. Probably got some favorable matchups, but you play what's in front of you. So it is exactly no. Right. No, no disrespect. They did play what was in front of them and then they got to play against.
00:33:28
Speaker
South African team on the road, like, yeah, that was basically still got a lot of things. Yeah, they got a lot of bounces that went their way to get them this far. But eventually, that's gonna, you know, your luck's gonna run out. And yeah, luck does run out. And, you know, it was like, it was so annoying. It's like, they're not gonna win this game. Shut the fuck up. Like, it doesn't matter. You can't will them to win this game, Austin. Not even. It was
00:33:56
Speaker
Yeah, and the score line probably fliers and even even it does. I turned it off like at 50 minutes or so. So I missed. Yeah, I saw the wood. I'm sorry. No, I saw the woodburn try. I was like, oh, that was pretty fucking cool, but I'm done. Yeah, it was great. And the the handle tried. It wasn't a try because it was held up. But I mean, yeah, I didn't even remember being the moron. He is like, nope, not going to look at it. And there would have been a try to put La Rochelle at 50. He looked at that happily. I was like, Gary, this is why people don't like you. You dummy.
00:34:26
Speaker
Anywho, it was always just gonna be this La Rochelle, just juggernaut. And it was- Here's a question for you, because I think they mentioned it too. Davida Kerbarlo, should Eddie be watching him at all? No, there's enough good knives in Australia. I mean, he will do it because it's Eddie.
00:34:56
Speaker
And he'll do something like that where he goes, yeah, fuck all these great nines I have in here. Let's bring this guy in who's never played for Australia in his life. And just throw him in there and let him and make, you know, the World Cup his freaking guinea pig. I was like, oh, but it wouldn't shock me. That would be a very anything to do. Yeah. But the thing is, Kerbal is also talented. And he's great. I'm not denying that he's easily the informed player, which means that he would never select.
00:35:24
Speaker
But yeah, point valid. Absolutely. Cause like, yeah, Australia have some great potential talent, but at one point, you know, Harry Randall was like the locked in next England's from half until what the fuck happened to him. Right. Because I feel like, uh, you know, tape.
00:35:50
Speaker
Deeply, pretty well assessed again. Yeah, exactly. So we'll get to that. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot to talk about with the, you know, with the... It seemed like a good transition point. Australia nights. But anyway.
00:36:05
Speaker
Yeah, you know, and I just the one thing, the second thing that happened that made me think, oh, our La Rochelle gonna get a surprise here because Sam Simmons scored, obviously, and then they had to bring Montia off. Yeah. Oh, that could change things. It could. No, it didn't. It didn't. Could, but didn't. It didn't. Yeah. And I I struggle to think of who played poorly on La Rochelle.
00:36:36
Speaker
I Trabala, we know played us. Stanley Astoy. Right. Great. He did. He had a game. Father was playing well. So he played well. So he was playing the match. Wasn't he? I'm not sure. Doolan look great in moments. He didn't have a ton to do, but look great in moments. Laids looks like he's freaking himself out, which is great.
00:37:00
Speaker
You know, Aldrich, Aldrich, Delann actually played really well. We know what Skelton can do. Skelton was, this was Skelton, like, this was the perfect opponent for Skelton. Yeah, sure. I'm just going to bash people over. Yeah, yup. You know, yeah. And that was the thing I was, I was telling some colleagues. I was just like, listen, the one thing that extra can do, Lauer Shell is going to be able to stand up to it because they have the personnel for it and they can do it better too. Right. Will Skelton plays that brand of rugby better than
00:37:31
Speaker
Kirsten and Gray and Vermeulen. I'm like, Johnson looked okay, but like, he's not a seven. How the fuck is he or seven? Like, what the fuck do you think you're doing with him at seven? Man, I'd be a little scared if I was this group. That's the, like, and that's my kind of my, again, my biggest problem with Baxter is he can't fucking pick a team. Like he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
00:38:00
Speaker
at all like he's such a fucking cowboy he doesn't know like this is not that game anymore I mean look how good Beckinsall has been yeah he's played pretty well for our fourth nine and yeah for fourth and he's what like 18 or something something like that he's a pup baby which okay that's the only excuse that's the only fucking excuse he has for not having been playing him because like
Emerging Rugby Talent
00:38:26
Speaker
he's been willing that team forward in ways that no other nine has done.
00:38:32
Speaker
You know, even Nick white wasn't really, he never exerted his will. He just ran the attack. All right. Like Beckinsall is like a actual, an aggressive, he like, that makes a positive impact for, you know, intentionally. And like, they need more players like that. Cause you know, again, those guys, Kirsten Gray, Vermeulan Ewers, they don't do that.
00:38:59
Speaker
They take what the other team will give them. They take what the other team gives them and that's it. Yeah, it's and it's. It's just. So like I just I I don't get the the.
00:39:18
Speaker
whole obsession with Rob Baxter. Like he only has one brand of rugby and the most of the league and Europe has figured him out. Right? Like they don't have to play. And the thing is, they don't even have to play him a certain way. It just makes the way they play rugby much more simple. Yeah. It's like, oh, we don't have to install a fucked up defense. We just play the guards and that's it. They'll, they'll kick the ball away.
00:39:46
Speaker
They're not going to do anything fucking. They're not going to do anything that's going to light your hair on fire. It's super like it's not. It's if you do one thing, do it well, yes. But you actually have to put some pressure on the other team when you do it. Yeah. I mean, hey, don't check the ball around when they're down 40. Yeah. OK. That does a lot of good. Right. But isn't like why don't you start playing the game like that? Just a little bit, at least. God, let the shackles off what we did. Why it is the same way.
00:40:16
Speaker
I mean, fuck, did Slate even play in this match? I don't know. I mean, how is he an international player? Give me a fucking break. Noel didn't do, you know, again, but it's Woodburn making making the aggressive like that, you know, making the play. I love. Yeah, I love Woodburn and everybody makes the play like. Yeah, I like Dan Frost. He got a card in this match like an idiot, but it's too much Exeter in him now. Yeah. Right. And
00:40:44
Speaker
But none of them are matching the class that's across from them. Right. Which is problematic. Like Beck install is doing well, but Kerberlo is fucking ridiculous. Woodburn, you have a rule. Yeah, rule and blades have definitely turned into different players since they moved to the La Rochelle and it's better. Eight up slayed. Like give me a fucking break. Oh, and like and last thing and then we'll move on.
00:41:13
Speaker
schoolboy defending in so many ways like the the satanic try what are you doing like that's and they're supposed to be people are supposed to be banging the drum about how great they're not literally figuratively um for how great their defense is that's core and the first try
00:41:30
Speaker
Oh my God, if that was my boys, I'd be like, guys, let's get on the bus and go home. That's awful. Like you had a wing come up and you're freaking fullback didn't even have his head on to rotate. Like, what are you doing? Beginning of the match, beginning of the match. You don't even have the excuse of I'm tired.
00:41:52
Speaker
Right? Come on, man. You just didn't know where you were supposed to be. Yeah, that was that was just schoolboy defending. And there is no excuse for that. And if there if you're going to lean on this whole they have a great defense thing, you can't fucking defend like that. And as soon as those two tries went over, I was like, this game is over because they're defending like this. Forget it. Or gets it. Let's go. I'm done. Let's go to Super Rugby. Hurricanes and Brumbies.
00:42:23
Speaker
Yes, a little bit dicey, but really the score line is a little flattering because Monica nailed the penalty to make it closer. But at the end, so overall, I was. Pretty happy myself. Not sad. Yeah, but at the same time, Nick Frost honed. Yeah, I know. I was like, oh. Fucking. Someone lose a rather large horse.
00:42:52
Speaker
Yeah. Look, look, I didn't. I don't look I don't blame you guys for not tackling them personally. That was that didn't look fun. But yeah, no, that was that was excellent. That was that was a lot of fun. Made the game interesting and. But fuck. Can's a class. They just again, same kind of thing. I'll class them. Probably are not a bad team by any stretch. And they showed pretty well, like the players that
00:43:22
Speaker
You know, um, like Corey tool had to act like I didn't expect him to have like that good a match. I thought that was, this was going to be a little bit of a, you know, a little bit of a next level experience for him, but he showed up.
00:43:35
Speaker
Yeah, played really well. Right. Played really, really well. Obviously got himself died down, but even beyond that. Right. I was like, Oh, cool. He did. I was, when I saw it, I was like, Oh, he deserved that. Like, I'm a, you know, obviously that's, hey, it's not my points, but you didn't, they didn't really matter in the, um, in the points at all, except for they get a point. Yeah. Right.
00:43:56
Speaker
So- And it's- The Flanders was excellent. Yes. Artie was just a monster. He's on a mission. I mean, he always has been, but- Yeah, he is on a mission, no doubt. There's- I had a thought. Shoot. So why not start in a holo at wing?
00:44:20
Speaker
And if Proctor is still out, if he's hurt, why not have Sevilla at 13? That's a possibility. I don't know how much longer Billy Proctor is out. Because, like, Sevilla has been, he's been the fucking ghost out on the way. Yes, he has. He just needs to get the ball more. And Pooge, uh-uh. Baylon Sullivan and Pooge will both be fine in that midfield next to Geordie, so.
00:44:46
Speaker
Billy Proctor was the form 13, no doubt, but. Yeah, exactly. That's why it's like neither of them have been. I'm not sold on them. So that's why I would think like if he gets help, if Proctor gets help, he goes right back into the lineup. No question. Exactly. I just I'm kind of sick of seeing Sevilla like not live up to like. Right. Why is already not being like, dude, kick his brother's ass. I know this is not the I mean, it's just it's also not the Jillian Sevilla.
00:45:14
Speaker
You and I remember now and if I don't get it, I don't understand it. Yeah, it's frustrating. No, I think there has to be a point where Jason Holland dropped him. Yeah. That's my only thought. Like if you have to play him and you really want to do that, like the whole has been a fucking terror when he comes in. Yeah, he's a monster when he gets in there as he was in this match to even only got 15 minutes, but like.
00:45:41
Speaker
Why not bring Sylvia closer to the, he's physical, he's good defensively, so bring him in. His pooch, what didn't give much, I don't think, like I said. No, it wasn't. Not that he was bad. He's still banging off the rust, too, so give him a little bit of time. I would give him another week or two before I really started saying, all right, dude, pull your head out of your ass. Not to that point yet. That balance has not been, yeah, give him a week off, because he's been,
00:46:09
Speaker
Solid. Absolutely. There's not that not the danger, man, that I think they are really like. I think that's the difference between the hurricanes and certainly like somebody like obviously like the Chiefs are going to point out because the Blues are kind of like this, too, where there's still that one guy who's not a threat. Right. Like they don't have a. Blues don't have a 12. In this case right now, the Hurricanes don't have a 13.
00:46:35
Speaker
Right. And that's actually, I'm sorry. They don't have a 14 really. Yeah. Something to that degree. Right. Um, they kind of have a mid mid 13 at the moment. Um, but yeah, like you can't have holes in that back line. I mean, although, you know, you can certainly against the Australian. So yeah, some of the Australian teams, you can get away with it. Um, but there's still a fucking wagon. I'm not trying to disrespect them. It's just.
00:47:01
Speaker
Um, I'm wondering, they could be better is where I am. That's, that's the fact. I think that's what's fucking with my head right now is that like, okay. But if they actually fielded the best lineup, their most productive lineup, um, I would not expect easily expect the same results as the last time that you played the hurricane. No, probably not. I would be scared. Yeah.
00:47:22
Speaker
We'll see. Um, camera yards. Unbelievable. When we start talking about Al black selections, I, I'm curious to see how that one goes. I can't imagine this name won't come up. Yeah. Right now. Smith Weber. Right.
00:47:41
Speaker
And it's probably, that's probably the pecking order too, if we're honest as well. Although Christie is, here's the thing. And what do you do with Finley Christie, who's actually played really well. So he's playing okay. He hasn't been like, I think he's been valuable to that blues. I think he's been valuable, but I don't think he's been, again, it's the same thing I was saying about Beckinsall. Like, Roy Gard has been a positive impact on the hurricanes, really helping to drive them forward.
00:48:10
Speaker
And whereas Philly Christie's kind of just, you know, he's got the car in gear and letting the, you know, hitting, you know, like, but pulling the right pedals, whatever you want to say, pushing the right pedals, like, you know, getting them where they need to be, but he's not been the danger man. Like that's what, and I think you need that, you know, I mean, he can be that guy. We've seen it. It's just, he hasn't been, in my opinion. Right.
00:48:38
Speaker
Um, did you get to watch tires and hollanders? Cause I did not. I didn't see it. Cause I saw an interview with the players and coaches after the match for about 15 minutes. That that's, that's what I saw. Uh, anyone watched it. I just kind of pushed through it to see if there was any actual rugby they were going to show. And nope, no, just 15 minutes. What a disgrace. Thank you. Apparently it was a good match too, but we can't talk about it because I didn't see it.
00:49:07
Speaker
somebody. I don't know. There needs to be something done about that, but that's a different story for a different day. Anyway, let's go to, let's go over to Fiji and the blues are one of the few teams that are able to survive the, uh, the rather warm conditions over in Fiji and get a win because I don't
Super Rugby Highlights and Criticisms
00:49:29
Speaker
know. I think there's been two games in Fiji and they've won both. I think so. Um,
00:49:36
Speaker
Yeah, just a little, little, little hot and humid over there. I can't imagine why. Yeah. Right. But that, that's also that, that, that team gets like the crowds up for it. It's the team up for it's very, it's very circular. And it's quite, it's quite an atmosphere to walk into. It's not an easy, like, I don't even care about the, like, you know, the conditions help, but it's not an easy place to play. No. They're, they do a good job over there for sure.
00:50:07
Speaker
And like everybody on the other, on the, the drill want to show up for the fan. Like they're trying to, to put on a show. So you know, that there, whatever happens, it's not going to stop. Cause if they, you know, they only put up five points in the first half. It's not like they're going to be like, Oh, well, let's go home. Well, let's just try to score a lot of points in the second half. So, um, yeah, like, uh, and you know, earlier, I kind of, uh,
00:50:38
Speaker
Yeah. Giving people... Giving them problems to think about and things to think about over there for the Jew. I am unconvinced about Salawa at this point. Yeah, I'm not far off. You have... You have... You have Miramar and you have... Tamani. Yeah.
00:51:06
Speaker
I think that's the best thing you got right there. Right. Although I think these are your top four that they played. I probably wouldn't have them in this order. Yeah, probably put on the bench there. Yeah. But really, yeah, that's that that I think is your back row. Right. I mean, they have things they have things like. Again, no, nothing wrong with losing to this Blues team anywhere that they're they're fucking stacked, I mean,
00:51:35
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, who are you going to guard? Talia, Ioannoni, Clark, Bodhi. Right. And then Sichuji's going to have something to say and then obviously Papa Li, he finally got over. Papa Li, like this was, this was a nice step forward for him. He's been kind of. A little quiet. Yeah. It's been rough for him. This was good. You know, Hey, I'm back. And Akira Ioannoni's coming back too. Fuck. Yep. He was on the bench for this one. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:05
Speaker
And it didn't have much in the way it carries. He only had three carries. Right. But one of them got over. We know his damage is usually more done on the other side, but even that, only six tackles made, one miss, one turnover. Yeah, Choate and Daryon, CFO, were more busy on the defensive side. Yeah, CFO had a good match too, even outside of the try too. The try was very good. Proper try. Yep.
00:52:35
Speaker
But yeah, they both like, they're just, and then they have two Pilates still hanging around. Like this is a, it's a fucking deep team the Blues have. That's the thing. That's why you can, you can have that when you have a guy like, you know, Darry put in 64 minutes and just be like, this is your, you know, like.
00:52:57
Speaker
He's not, you know, he's not your best lock. So it's like, if you know, but you can just play the role for, for this eat up these minutes so that we can get guys rested. Now you're freaking fresh. Like, like, I think that helps to offset the temperature issues. Cause it's still fresh legs. Yep. Compared to other guys. So right. Right. Right. That's my theory anyway. That's, I think how they, they work that not, not a terrible theory.
00:53:23
Speaker
Let's go to Mount Smart and Moana hosting the Rebels. I missed this one. I watched bits and pieces of it. Moana showed as they do, but in the end, you know, the things like discipline and such just end up being the thing to bite you. No, I did watch this one. What the fuck am I saying? Which one did I miss, though? Same one I miss. Oh, well, yeah, that's right. That's it, then.
00:53:50
Speaker
That's the one I missed, dude. Yeah, penalties 16 to 12 and three yellow cards, that being the huge one, especially, I think it was back to back props that got carded. So one was ready to come back on, the other one went off. I was like, well, that's not really going to work. So they had to, yeah, they'd leave. I think they left Tabatabana off the field for quite a bit of time.
00:54:13
Speaker
which is really not ideal because the dude had 68 meters on seven carries and he beat six defenders and he did that on limited action. What you doing? What you doing over there? Yeah, just again, disciplines just biting them a little bit and rebels put the pressure on him early and
00:54:40
Speaker
made him just concede one of those cards eventually so that right that'll do it right there so good not to take anything from the rebels but yeah that that that doesn't right there right right in in that spot right there hello that spot yeah it won't hurt want a big time yeah it did it's it's i
00:55:08
Speaker
It's slightly disappointing to see that the jury have taken the step forward, even if it ends up being a marginal one. I would have liked them to have kept Giovanni out, though, at the end, like that would have been to, you know, really. Not give up, you know, again, they lost, they had a bonus point right there and they desperately need points at this point. I agree.
00:55:38
Speaker
just for, you know, the, the sake of showing up and, um, yeah, to let in a, uh, a try after. Yeah. After the, after the clock, when the clock's red to lose a bonus point gets just sucks. Yeah. Um, I'm sure the coaching staff will, we're losing their mind about that. Um, probably, I hope so. Yeah. They were less than happy. I bet. Yeah.
00:56:06
Speaker
Rebels snap their street. And it's not it's not as. Yeah. Wait, was this. Was this in? Was this in Samoa? Was this? No, that was last week. OK, the last one. I did watch a little bit of that one. It was cool. And to do, I was just thinking because it's not it's not nearly as much of a home field advantage, but now that makes sense. Absolutely not. No, not quite. Gear guys over.
00:56:36
Speaker
in my kiddo. Chiefs and Crusaders. Oh, there we go. Sorry, I went right past it. What are you doing skimming past your own goddamn match? What's wrong with you? It was this one. Oh, yeah. All right. Again, too many too many kicks for points. I fucking hated it. So I've here's what I've learned. Once once you kick for points twice, now you got a score it starts for and tries like you get you do it once. Oh, fuck. OK, fine.
00:57:06
Speaker
You do it twice. All right. Now you've you've established that you can score points. Now, why don't you go score real points? Big boy points. Fuck, 12 points at half. Without really trying for a try.
00:57:25
Speaker
No, they really didn't. Bro, when that happened, I was like, all right, I think the crusader is going to feel a little bit better about themselves, and they probably should, because here I am thinking, hmm, I know they're in this, but
00:57:43
Speaker
She's having really gone for the line. I mean, they know a little bit, but like, but yeah, you know, not like they did when when Retella got over and then that play for the Stevens. Fuck that. Oh, shit. Mackenzie was great. Right. And like all of it was really well worked. Like they did some really good stuff to lead up to their tries. And it's like, that's what you that's what's made you good all year. And you're going for the fucking posts.
00:58:13
Speaker
Um, yeah, I'm against it. Yeah. It was nine, seven and a half. And again, nine, seven. Okay. Crusaders are probably thinking awareness and they did stay in it to be fair, all the way until the end. But like, I think it was just a little bit of a false positive and that aspect where DMAC had kicked three penalties and they really hadn't quite gone for the line that much. So.
00:58:42
Speaker
I think it was just waiting for that scooter to turn just a little bit more. And eventually it did, and they got the job done. But it was like, oh boy, that's just asking for it coming up here. Yeah, but it also made, you know, it kind of did make the victory that much more fun. Yeah. It was like, yes, you toyed with them for a little bit. A little bit, yeah. Congratulations. You know who else you toyed with? Our emotions.
00:59:09
Speaker
Your emotions. I just watched. I just watched. Shit. It was good. And we saw it's like, you know, it's like that dumb and dumber thing every fucking time with Mackenzie, like, you know, every time I think you go and get screw up any worse or do anything more stupid, you go and totally redeem yourself. He actually does redeem himself. So yeah. And we said that for real.
00:59:37
Speaker
We did really bum very early on on the ground. Two little marshmallows. I'm not sure. I'm not sure I want. I'm not sure I want to be on the ground with my ass hanging out. Like I'd rather be running and having my butt hang out and just give myself a pants pull up job. You know, when you're on the ground, it's wet down there and dudes are like stepping on your
01:00:01
Speaker
Snipped on your ass, literally. Yeah, you know, right. You don't want that exposure. No. Yeah, guys like to step on things. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Jesus. Yikes. Right. But it's like, we were talking with the lady who was sitting next to us at the free jacks match. And like, how, how great it is that there's a sport where like,
01:00:29
Speaker
every so often, you're gonna see some ass. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Love it. It's hilarious. It reminds us not to take ourselves too seriously. It's all really funny, because sometimes you go your ass. Literally. Literally, everybody, you know, look, as we, I think each of us have run, like, I got my pants pulled down in football once, but I was wearing... You were in the girdle underneath, no? The girdle underneath, like, there's layers.
01:00:58
Speaker
yeah with this shit um rugby there's not no tie your shorts and wear your spandex kids otherwise yep it's coming out it's gotta come out even then it happens to ever even if you do even if you do we've all had our butt out at some point
01:01:15
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't tie my shorts once and it was in a mall and I was like, Oh, hello. I was like, pull your shorts up. I was like, yeah, working on it. Tied my shorts right after that. That was the culprit. I forgot to tie my shorts. So yeah, everything came with it. I was like, oopsie. Yeah.
01:01:42
Speaker
Yeah, it happens. All right. This is the beginning of your ass. Red's in force. Quite the ass, actually. Yeah, exactly. That can't be scored twice. Fraser McBride scored twice. Do I need to say more? No. Okay, good. No. Fraser McBride scored like four times. Yeah, two. I'm going to call back. Yeah. Flukas called back. I was like, no. Right. Yeah. Five points. Get back here. Three or four called back tries on the Reds. This was so much more
01:02:12
Speaker
of a shit of an ass whooping then it looks like. And then it looks like it was agreed. It was bad. Although. You know, you take out Zach Kiberige and it's a it looks terrible talking at that point. Yeah. And that guy is good, by the way. And did you hear at the end what they said about him potentially moving to the UK, moving the UK to play? He's been people are saying and the sayings are people that the Saracens are in the mix.
01:02:40
Speaker
Yeah, no, I actually that might not be the smartest move, but just let's we can save that conversation for another day. Exactly. But I would welcome him with I mean, I wouldn't be mad, but just say for his own sake. Right. That's true. But he is doing well down there, so it's good to see. But you should be you should be a starter almost every week. Right. He's he's fucking fantastic. I like he's
01:03:08
Speaker
I mean, he's been good with wasps the last couple of seasons anyway, like seriously. I remember when it was like between him and Bassett for who was actually, you know, better. And I feel like Kiberigi kind of was like, no, that's me. And that's it's still been good. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. But Kiberigi is still like, no, I'm that guy. Take me to another continent, another hemisphere. I'm still that guy. That's that's that's kind of a
01:03:37
Speaker
Okay. You've, you don't need to prove it to me anymore. Now I'm just going to enjoy it. Yeah. Something like that. Right. That's, that's where he is in territory. I like watching Zach Kibbricki. I also like watching Manasseh Mattali too. Um, yeah. See the thing about him and his wife who plays for the, the women's side. That was pretty cool. That's right. That's great. I love it.
01:04:03
Speaker
And then, and then, yeah, the reds just fucking want them. Yeah, they did. They just crushed them. Or that one, uh, free Jax put a bagel on rugby, New York. And, or in New York, sorry, ugly fucking weather for a match. Yeah, it was pretty, pretty awful. And I can honestly say there was a point, like once we got two scores on the board,
01:04:31
Speaker
I didn't really feel like there was going to be a threat from New York. I just don't know where it was going to come from. That's the thing. I was like, you might score once maybe. We got held up a bunch and that was like, yeah. And that was both. I didn't like that ref. Osmus is not that good. He missed. He missed a shit ton of of like, like he calls the yellow that he called.
01:04:57
Speaker
on an intentional knock with a guy who had both hands on the ball. Yeah, horrible, horrible decision. Like who was and had a clean field in front of him. Yeah, like that's just a clear knock on he was there was a terrible pass right down like very extremely flat flat not forward and rushed offender just was had his hand had both hands going for it and just and knocked it upwards and just didn't gather it.
01:05:27
Speaker
Um, as I recall, he may, he may have not, it may have bounced straight down, but like he still had two hands. Like it was, it was, it was clearly trying to grab it with two hands. And, and Mitch, what was it? Um, Mitch Wilson took that high shot and the rat, like right in front of him and. I know he's short, but it doesn't matter. So penalty on it. Then they called it just a penalty. And it's like, no, that's gotta be.
01:05:50
Speaker
Yeah. That was only with the AR's help, I think. Right. No, the AR buzzed in. I thought the TMO might have buzzed in or something, but... Oh, yeah, maybe that. What am I talking about? They don't let the AR's do shit. Right. He went to his ear and then called it and it was just like, come on, you got it. That had to be more than that.
01:06:10
Speaker
Yeah, no, and we had so many penalties down in their end in the first half and he didn't call, he didn't card him or even really talk to him. And it's like, yeah, the fact that there was no real conversation about the consistent infringement was really annoying. Right. He's like, yeah, by three minutes in, they'd had like five penalties in their own end. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty bad.
01:06:33
Speaker
It was pretty bad. Yeah. So they got the job. It was a thorough either way. It was a thorough, but kicking it. The score line doesn't really flatter. No, that's rather than anything for sure. If that was a nice clear day, it's like probably in the 30s and it's bad. The Ironworkers score is probably about the same. Yeah. Give or take. Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Agreed. But showing everyone a clean period. He was in the East right now. Yeah. Bye bye.
01:07:02
Speaker
Well, um, the rest of the whip around. All right. Me lost my spot. There we go. Um, yeah, Seattle. Absolutely. Tonked the jackals. Not no shot there. Nola beat arrows again. No shock. Sorry. It's wrong. Just didn't happen. Did, uh, San Diego beat saber cats. This is the first game of, um, what's his butt suspension as well.
01:07:26
Speaker
Yeah, good. Probably not the last. Yeah. No, I haven't seen what the I didn't see. He's done until basically the last game of the season. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. No, no need. No need. Nope. Anywho, I saw it. It's sad. I saw it on Deadspin. Like they. Man, I don't want to be on that for that reason.
01:07:55
Speaker
No, come on. Here we are. Thanks assholes. That's the action for the weekend. Ben and I are jumping over to the fancy pod. Obviously this is very important stuff going on over there. If you're not joining us, we do appreciate you hanging out and listening to us for
01:08:17
Speaker
about an hour or so and let's babble you into your ear. Enjoy the, enjoy the final weekend of the prem. I'm going to watch it on replay because I think I'm playing in a tournament this weekend. So hopefully they play all the matches. Yeah, right. Different conversation for a different day. Oh, by the time you're listening to this, you'd already know. You'll know probably. But anyway, we appreciate you all for listening to us and we will catch you all next week. Enjoy the rugby and have a good one everyone. Later.