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The Sleepy Games Winter Episode!
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This week, our highly anticipated second edition of the Sleepy Games Winter Episode featuring 'Wind River' (2017) and 'Eight Below' (2006).
Next Week: The movies of David Lynch (RIP).
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts' Banter
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You're listening to The Sleepy Games Podcast.
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And we're back for another episode of The Sleepy Games Podcast. We are your hosts, me, James Games, and My fave, my boy, my companion. Sleepy John, what's going on, baby? Oh, oh, tugging at my heartstrings the other day, baby. I gotta start it off right, as we always do. Indeed, indeed. ah Just love and admiration for one another. That's what we do best.
Recent Watches and Home Challenges
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um But so so I guess before we dive into the theme of the episode, if there's anything that you watched this week, anything new, any new shows you caught up on? oh Maybe a little bit this way, Gabe. So I watched one thing this week, joe James, and it was the movie recommendation you gave me. That is all I watched. I was a busy week for you.
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uh yeah actually it it's yeah that the weather up here has been uh kind of very cold and then warm which creates lots of problems uh the foundation of my house has been leaking once again oh no Oh no. I'm sorry to hear that. Oh, I mean, it's like I pretty much expected at this point. So that it's yeah I've got it down. I got to get around to actually doing a proper fix one of these days. But you certainly don't do that in the middle of winter. It's the greatest time to do foundation repairs. Not at all. I'm sorry to hear that man.
00:01:58
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It is what it is. It's just, it's part of the adventure. It's life. It's ownership. that's Exactly. You have to understand that there's all these systems in your house and and pretty much they're all gonna fail at around the same time. Just to give you a little extra adventure. Yeah.
NFL Playoffs and American vs. Canadian Football
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So for ah for me, I guess not so much of new movies or TV shows but the NFL, NFL playoffs are going on, uh, American, American football. And I was just out yesterday, uh, for our Baltimore Ravens who were in the playoffs and unfortunately they have shit the bed and they lost again in the playoffs. They, I feel like the team's cursed. Like that they there was a play at the end of the game where
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they they They were gonna tie it up and hopefully go to overtime. um Our player was wide open, perfect pass. Gonna be in the end zone and he dropped the ball. Right to him, no one on him. Easy catch. He literally and figuratively dropped the ball. And this guy's usually reliable. like he's He's usually, I go to, ah or he's a tight end, but like as far as like, like receptions catching, like he's one of our top guys. So it was- I think he'd struggle even more if it was one of our Canadian balls, because our balls are bigger. Yeah, yeah it yeah. Yeah, I forgot you guys had different balls in the CFL. Yeah, I'm not really im sure. what i think that ah I think our fields are bigger too, and then there's less downs. We get three downs, you guys get four. Is it bigger, is it it's wider, or is it longer?
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I almost want to say it's both I think that it's I think it's a bit longer I'm pretty sure wider for sure. I think yeah, I I don't know man. It's uh If like when I do watch football it's typically NFL not yeah afl yeah well Well, I imagine you'll be watching the Super Bowl, right?
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I catch it sometimes. It it it it varies. Well, okay.
Super Bowl Anticipation
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for For the purpose of the show, I want you to watch Cerebral because I think it'd be fun to talk about some of my favorite commercials, talk about the halftime show because my boy Kendrick Lamar is doing a halftime show at the Cerebral. But we get different commercials than you guys get, I think. Well, i mean okay. Well, we'll get the same halftime show as soon as that.
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I didn't think about that, but I guess you're right, you won't get different commercials, but I'm curious if there are any cross, because, you know, I guess the thing to talk about, what you'll probably have as well, is the Super Bowl usually debuts movie trailers for certain films. I'm sure you'll have that as well, so that'll be a good thing to discuss, because we would be doing the show the day after the Super Bowl. Is that right? Yeah.
00:05:13
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And what day is a Super Bowl this year? I believe it's February 8th, if I'm not mistaken. All right. We look at the calendar. It's coming up. Coming up quick. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I'm sorry. February 9th. February 9th. Sunday. Okay. sunday All right. Yeah, it's always on Sunday. Yeah. So that'll be fun. So I look forward to it. But yeah. Maven's loss. I'm over it. Whatever.
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I'm like used to it by now. so So it's all good.
Snowy Movies Theme Introduction
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But anyway, getting into today's episode, because you're experiencing a lot of snow where you are. we It just snowed here last night. And I know for the theme of today, we want to get into some snowy movies. Gloomy snowy winter episode. And ah I thought we we gave each other some good recommendations for this.
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And for I want to go into yours first. ah You got to watch. Okay. You got to watch um the. Help me out, judge. It was the Jeremy Renner Elizabeth Olsen flick Wind a River. Wind River. Yes. i was I was going to say Winter River. I'm like, that's not it. Wind River. Yes. Wind River. Yes.
'Wind River' Discussion
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I mean,
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Before I even go into the movie, James, like in the future, if you're gonna recommend a movie like that, I would appreciate a little bit of a heads up, especially when it's gonna be. What do you mean? That is like, that is a fucking emotionally draining movie. It is, and it's of those types of movies where you're like, okay, like I, holy crap, wow, this is no, yeah this is not, okay. You know, one of those types of movies,
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um is that the best one to to to watch for the whole family well i i mean i i did i did watch this one actually uh solo okay okay but but the thing is too is like and it's funny because uh it coincides with i think it is i think this week if i'm not mistaken is like the quote the most depressing week of the year it's like I guess the suicides are like at an all-time high because it's like it's like the depressing time of the year so then on top of that you know we don't get sunlight up up here especially how far up north I am yeah you're already feeling it it's cold and then you're recommending a movie like this and I was like James why why didn't I get a good recommendation like there's like no everywhere movie
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but it is no know And I'm not gonna say it's like it's yeah, you have to be prepared when you're watching a movie like that I would say But did you did you want to start I guess with with your thoughts on it my thoughts? What do we do? I want to hear your thoughts first because because it's your first time. I've seen the film probably I Know I've seen it twice. Okay Yeah, I'm thinking at least twice. Yeah, I So, I mean, like yes, and it is it is a good movie. i just yeah for For anyone listening, if you haven't seen it, just make sure you're in the right firm of mind. Especially if you're already feeling a bit down for you know the ah winter blues. I don't know if this is the movie for you, you know what I mean? but yeah uh the one thing okay the first thing i mean you should have said this and you should have you should have led with this when you were trying to like you know you get me hyped up to watch the movie okay i didn't know that graham green was in this one graham green graham green who's graham green so he's he's the police chief
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Okay. In a movie. Yes. And he actually is... He's a... Yes, I do him. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So he's a Canadian actor and he's actually starred in quite a few films that like I really enjoy and I always enjoy his roles. I always think he does a phenomenal job and he can do anything from like pretty serious drama to, you know, some good comedy and stuff like that. He's got quite the range that I get and I always enjoy watching him on screen.
00:09:31
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Yeah, he's known for the Green Mile and Dances with Wolves. That's right, yeah. As well, I liked him in Maverick. Yeah, Maverick's the only one, yeah. And then, this one you might not know, might be a recommendation in the future. It was a Canadian movie, it's called Gunless. I probably will make that a recommendation at some point in the future. It's a good Western movie, is what it was. It takes place in Canada before Canada was Canada.
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Before Canada was Canada. That's right. right so well I'm glad I was surprised for you because because i actually I didn't know he was a Canadian actor. i didn't know he was like such and I know he's such a good Canadian kid, you know? I wouldn't say that he's necessarily like a like a known household name or anything like that, but he definitely has a familiar face. Yeah. And then, yeah, so I like i was i was pretty psyched to see him in this. as Like I said, I always enjoy movies that he's in. He does a good job yet again.
00:10:33
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um I guess like I don't know how much I really want to like break down the movie too too much like I well i guess go into a little bit about the story and the relationship between like and Jimmy Renner and ah Elizabeth Olsen's characters.
00:10:53
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Yeah, so I mean, so Jamie Rauner, he's playing basically this, this trapper slash hunter, I guess mostly hunter, not trapper, I shouldn't say that. So he's he's a hunter. ah And that he, I guess, looks like he he gets like, ah like, like mountain lions that are going after people's cattle and and yeah that sort of thing.
00:11:14
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And then Elizabeth Olsen's playing a FBI agent because Jeremy Renner comes across a a body a young young woman's body while he's out hunting. And this this takes place on on the reserves in and in in America. I don't know what one one of, I'm assuming are many reserves. And so that the the film kind of touches I think a bit on you know some of the hardships in the life in these reserves uh and I don't know how much like how I really want to dive into that or anything like that but uh basically the whole movie is like him at him and Elizabeth Olsen's character Lee the FBI agent basically trying to find find out what happened to this young girl
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ah Because it you know she was basically she was a raped found barefoot when it's like freezing cold I think they said it was a minus 20 Fahrenheit or something like that so she was running barefoot in the snow And you're obviously not gonna get very far doing that and then she basically like her lungs Rose is is how she ended up dying So yeah, so I mean it's a pretty uh pretty pretty pretty dark movie and Did you did you like how you like how she was introduced to Elizabeth Olsen? How like she didn't have like any winter clothes or whatever? Yeah, so and I mean like I think the thought is like it probably like I don't know about the FBI but I would say you know it it when it comes to our federal police would be like the RCMP and it's like you you could have a situation where yeah like
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I can't see it that much of a temperature swing, I guess, up here, but yeah, where somebody is just like, oh, like, you're the closest guy, like, oh, go check this kind of thing out, right? So it's like, and especially some areas are not very heavily policed, uh, kind of like what was going on in that movie. So...
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ah Yeah, like ah and and and to be honest like I mean You know Jeremy Renner and was Elizabeth Olsen. I thought they both did phenomenal jobs in their roles. I haven't seen Elizabeth Olsen in too much other than I think Marvel movies the Marvel movies and Why why am I drawing a blank right now the the weird Korean movie?
00:13:38
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Come on, how many have changed? That was like first season, it was like episode six or five or something like that. Weird Korean movie. It was a weird, weird Korean remake movie.
00:13:49
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with Josh Brolin. Why am I drawing a blank here? Oh, old boy! Old boy! There he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. He was also an old boy. ah But that's, that's, I can't say I've seen her and in really anything else. And I didn't watch like WandaVision or anything like that. So I mean, like the screen time I've seen her on with her clothes on has been, I guess, fairly minimal for the most part. So, no, it's like, she did a good job. He did a good job. I mean,
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Yeah, it was a good job of like putting you like in that world or like just that area like is how desolate and kind of just ah depressing it all is. It does, yeah. And I mean like and again like I thought the story is like it is very compelling ah from start to finish. My my understanding, i did I did look into it a little bit after watching it. I was curious if it was based on like real events or if they just basically mishmashed a bunch of stuff it it kind of seems like it's just a more of a mishmash of of things that that do occur which to be honest I mean I kind of prefer that rather than you know they're like oh it's based on a true story and then they change so much by the end of it where you're just like it's not even the same story anymore yeah
00:15:02
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Um, so, but yeah, like it it is a very compelling movie in that regard. Like I, I mean, you know where it's going, but you don't exactly know how it's going to get there. You know what I mean? Like it's, it does keep you on your toes. Yeah. You don't know like what, what lengths Jimmy Renner is going to go and like what he's going to do.
00:15:22
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Yeah to convince people that you find And there were a couple scenes where it's like it definitely not what I was expecting ah I think one of them was one the FBI agent when she's initially interviewing um The missing girl other side of the dead girl's parents Yeah, and I think she's under the impression that they don't really care that much because they didn't report her as missing because she hadn't Really been missing that long and they just figured she was at her boyfriend's house, right? and And then, you know, so she walks in. So the the dad's being kind of a jackass to her. And he's like, well, where's the mom? And then she's like, well, he's like, well, she's she's in the room. You can go talk to her. And she goes in there and I'm like, mom's like so distraught. She's like cutting herself with a knife. Right. Like it's yeah the the the emotions in there. It's fairly intense. Obviously, when she opened the door that that's like the last thing I expected to see. Oh, my God. Wow, man. I was like, this type of movie rates.
00:16:22
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Yeah and and I guess like and this is the thing is like I did and again I thoroughly ah enjoyed the movie like in terms of I got really nothing bad to say about it like it it like there isn't the one thing I will say is like obviously movies like that ah there is I wouldn't even say it's subtle there's some very in-your-face ah social commentary And I guess in terms of the social commentary the movie was trying to make, I don't think that is the right story to be making that type of commentary about. be Interesting. only
00:17:00
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Well, I mean, think of it from this perspective. I mean, like, so essentially by the end of the movie, and obviously we're going into some spoilers here if you haven't seen it. Well, no, I want to go to some spoilers. So, you know, so but there's essentially there was there was two murders that took place. And I think that the movie is trying to yeah make some commentary about like these these women that that go missing.
00:17:25
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uh on these reserves uh and and you know that the crime and the hardship and and and all those types of things and then you have a movie where the only murder that's being investigated is one that it is from the reserve the other person was was white there was no investigation there's there's not really even any like like discussion about it and it's just like so if anything like actually i yeah i don't remember um good because and i know what we're talking about we're talking about um the boyfriend. um Yeah, the punisher. John. john john john berthol yeah in that Yeah. That scene is that that's the big standout.
00:18:08
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in the It is. I mean, like it's always... I always find it difficult to watch things like that. Yeah, using him was... or getting him to do that was because he he he's such a good actor. Yes, it was it was good casting. you You hear some of his Punisher grunts ah yet again ah during those scenes. and ah like the thing for me too is that like there was a couple things that I didn't really understand like when they interviewed her brother like the the dead girl's brother prior to this he was trying to make some sort of insinuation as though like that the guy was like an older guy and like it kind of seemed like he was trying to get advantage of her to some degree but then when you see the scenes where he's in there like
00:18:51
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I don't really feel like that's what was going on. Like he seems to genuinely care about this. They they really like one another. Yeah, it seems very sincere. So I was just like, okay, like, again, like, are you trying to make so if again, if there is some social commentary there, and and I'm sure that there is.
00:19:06
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Again, I don't know if this is the right story to tell this because it's like this it's just people that seem to really care When I think that the social commentary is trying to say that in general You know society doesn't care. They don't care about these places and stuff, right? And I was just like if anything like that's not The thing I was getting and and even with the scene where obviously, you know, he's getting murdered ah She's getting raped and then she she takes off it And, and again, like, I mean, if the social commentary is supposed to be kind of race motivated, I don't think it mattered who he was there with that day. I think that they were going to rape any female that was there at that time. I don't think it mattered. And that's what I'm saying is like, I just feel like the the the social commentary and like the underlying story is trying to tell. I don't think they succeeded with that. I think it's the wrong story to tell to to try and really convey, uh, like, I guess the injustices
00:20:05
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ah that they're feeling like they touch on it briefly but I don't really think that at that was the right but that that's just me that's my my two cents I guess yeah but uh but I mean again like the movie is is very is very compelling I mean it does ah shed light I guess into a world that some people might not be aware of and I mean I know that one of Elizabeth Olsen's uh she when she comes up and she's just like She's like, Oh my God, you've got like six officers, you know, basically looking over an area the size of Rhode Island that has basically a high crime rate too. And they're like, this is ridiculous. Like how do you even police anything? And, and that is like a known thing. I don't know about, you know, in in America, but in in Canada, we have very similar situation and it is. Unfortunately, like that's, that's pretty accurate a lot of the time. So.
00:21:03
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Tim, well, yeah I'm so glad I recommended this to you. And I'm so glad I didn't preface anything. Goin' this blind. No, i went this I had no idea what this was about and I was just like, oh my god, i like this is probably not what I- I think that that's what's funny about these winter episodes is like, you know, it's like you're already gloomy from the weather and then there's these like gloomy movies like Last You Be Had, Fargo, which is not, you know, it's not exactly like and a beat chipper type movie either. Yeah. But <unk> I don't know if you have more to add with the whole... window everything go into I just want to go more into like the um like the writing in it. because so So this writer is like, he's huge here in America right now.
Taylor Sheridan's Works
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like he He's developed so many shows for Paramount, it's crazy. man So like he he became um like big time when he when he wrote
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ah Do you ever see the movie Sicario? I've heard of it. I think it's one that's been recommended to me a couple times. I just have not gone around to watch it. Well, the one show you would know, he created a yellow stone. Yeah, again, I'm familiar with it. I haven't seen it, but yeah, very familiar with it. Yeah, you've i seen like you know of but you know how big that show is. Yes, yes. um So yeah he's a creator of that show. You know, he did Wind River, Sicario. If he saw Hell or High Water, it's another great one he did. Right. um Yeah, he's he he just knows how to write these kind of characters in these kind of like, but like a lot of them have like a very like Western-esque to them. Yeah. Actually, now that you're mentioning that, that the one scene that i really I thought was really well done, I enjoyed, it was ah the last, not the last gun fight, but the last standoff. Yes. Where they start turning around and he's like, this guy's flanking me. And then he's like, why are you flanking me, bro? And then he pulls out his gun.
00:23:02
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Like I was just like, and yeah yeah. And then, and then afterwards it's like, cause the FBI agent, she's like trying to calm everyone down. He's like, didn't you see it? He's like, you didn't see that. Then like at that point you're like, okay, shit's about to go down right away here. ah Such a good scene. Oh, that that is that, that is actually probably my favorite scene of the movie with how well it's done. So.
00:23:29
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Yeah, so um I know we were talking about other shows. ah yeah know We always talk about shows that we watch um before getting into the themes of our episodes. And there's actually one show I'm watching right now that this guy wrote that just came out recently called Land Man. And that stars Billy Bob Thornton. This is like in the writing for him, it fits Billy Bob perfectly.
00:23:56
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he like He kills it with this kind of writing. um so and I really recommend the show. It's a good show, this show called Landman. ah But I've always seen two episodes, so I can't really go into much of it, but ah maybe maybe maybe I'll go into further on the show once I finish the series. But anyway, yeah, I'm glad you got to watch him, and I guess that was your first film of his. um the The writer's name is ah Taylor Sheridan.
00:24:26
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is the writer. Right, yeah. ro He wrote and directed it. So a lot of times you're writing direct, yeah. Yeah, and and I believe that, again, because I did look into it a bit after watching the movie, is that like he's, I guess, spent some time on on on some reserves and some of these people. Yeah, he's had to. Yeah, I'm not surprised. I guess what is part of the what compelled him to make a movie like this too. so Yeah. Yeah, because it's a world a lot of people don't know about.
00:24:57
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uh it was good yeah yeah and i know in uh in canada like and it it it can vary right because you you get some where it's like you know it like it's certainly not like that but you get other other areas uh where you know it's basically like thermal country like it's just broken down like services aren't running like it's like there's you know there's no running water power kind of goes in and out and stuff like it's it's pretty wild yeah in some of these places so and And it can be pretty close to, I guess, quote, like, civilization kind of deal, right? Where it's like, you know, it's it's crazy, like, the that the the differences and and stuff. So, yeah, I mean, it's it's tough to tough to talk about it in a way, because it's just like, well, you know what I mean? Like, it's, yeah you're aware of it, but at the same time, it's like, like you know, like
00:25:51
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Yeah. Anyways. Yeah. But I think you should watch more of his stuff in the future. I think you'll like it. Um, but, uh, anyway, getting to my film, yeah we're at the for today I think there's a little bit more lighthearted, a little more, you know, that there's still some sad times to be had, right but not as sad as Wind River. That's for sure. Yeah. Um, uh, we're depressing. Yeah. But,
'Eight Below' Movie and True Story
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uh, yes. So you have me watch eight below.
00:26:19
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start starring the late and great Paul Walker. Indeed. um So i remember like I remember watching this around when it came out. So I was probably in college or high school. so but But there was a lot I totally forgot. like I had an idea in my head of of what I thought was going to be happening. um But yeah, I was totally wrong. Because I thought Paul Walker was with these dogs the whole time. And like I thought they were lost together.
00:26:50
Speaker
Okay. I didn't realize all the dogs were on their own for for all this time, for for like months, they were on their own. I'm like, how the hell are they going to survive out there? It's it's crazy. But anyway, go before going into that, so also I didn't realize it's it doesn't take place in like, I guess the year it came out, it takes place in like 93. So I didn't know that either. Cause in the beginning of the film they they show,
00:27:19
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They talk about how um yeah you have Jason Biggs in here, he was a comic relief. But yeah he's not in it very much, but when he's in there, you know you know he always has a ha-ha moment. Right, and he was kind of in a few things like that in the mid-2000s, it seems. Yeah, but but I think that what threw me off is, okay, so I'm like, all right, this movie's from 2006, and there was a scene where they're talking about like oh him having a girlfriend, and he pulls out a picture,
00:27:48
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And he's like, yeah, well, yeah, I had this picture of, you know, she's gonna send me another one with the two of us. I'm like, wait, why don't you just like email one or like have one on MySpace or something? Like, like why why do you have to send it? And I'm like, oh, it's 93, that didn't exist yet. Okay, now they made more sense. Because I didn't tell you right um like right away like what year it was. like like I don't know if I i missed it in the beginning, but like it shared like later a calendar. I'm like, oh, it's 93, okay. But anyway,
00:28:16
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The relationship Paul Walker has with these dogs is adorable. I love it. I love dogs. It's a great movie for lovers of dogs. um These are probably some of the smartest dogs I've ever seen in a movie. And just imagining the training they did with these dogs. I would i would love to see some behind the scenes. ah Because I know what goes into having like ah like the trainers, everything on set certain sets.
00:28:46
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to make sure the dogs act in a certain way. But there's so many scenes where it's just the dogs. And like but those are my favorite scenes in the film. like A lot of times it it will go back and forth between um but before that happens. like So like a huge storm comes in, in the and they have to evacuate. And they had to leave the dogs there thinking that they were going to go back after they um you know, make sure everybody's safe, then go back and get the dogs, but then they weren't allowed to. So I'm like, Oh shit, that sucks. it So, so, you know, everyone's thinking like, okay, the dogs aren't going to survive. And because they were saying that they, uh, they, they tied their collars too tight on the chain. So they couldn't, they but won't be able to escape either. right So I'm like, shit. But thankfully, um, well, most of the dogs was seven of the eight, uh, of the dogs got free.
00:29:41
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Um, so that was sad. Say like, okay, so the ones left behind, that's one. Like, I'm thinking like, man, how many dogs are going to be killed off? I was like, oh no, like, okay, this is a Disney film.
00:29:54
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Right as well. So we're already at seven below here. Also, it was really funny though. They showed a kid's bedroom and like the poster like right over his bed was a poster of Aladdin. I'm like, okay. I mean, if you just throw it in her face, Disney, thanks. Yeah. 93. I mean, yeah, and that i came out 92. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 11 posters. So funny. But, um, yeah, so,
00:30:18
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Uh, so yes, so it we kept going back and forth between, uh, the dogs are left behind. It kept like giving an update like, Oh, okay. It's been four days. It's been two weeks. It's been like one month, two months. Um, and it would go back and forth to like Paul Walker. He's like, he's like so depressed about it. He can't stop thinking about like how he abandoned these dogs. And he's like trying to think of ways ah to get back there and make sure they're okay. And.
00:30:47
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He's even goes into ah so so the the other the other known actor in here that you would know. I don't know if you know him by name, but ah um Bruce Greenwood.
00:31:02
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Do you know who he is? OK, correct me if I'm wrong. Is he the one in the new Star Trek movies? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, he's the that like the the the emperor, not the emperor, the admiral. I don't know. He's eye up there. I know that. Yeah, he's the first one. He's the first one. He's like an eye robot, some other stuff. Right, yes. That's right. But yeah, but so he's a scientist, doctor, or whatever. that was looking for this like meteorite that fell and in ah in Antarctica.
00:31:38
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He was trying to find a piece of it and everything and then take it back and you know be, oh my God, I'm the greatest, buth blah, blah, blah. So Paul Walker's going to him trying to be like, and and these these dogs actually saved his life. So. That's crazy. He he he fell into, um he fell off a ledge, broke his leg and then like,
00:32:00
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um He it was on ice, the ice broke, and he was like um like ah ah um in ice water. And literally, Paul Walker's, I don't know how the they trained the dogs to do this, but like the dog literally took a rope, put the rope over his head so he could sling his arm through that rope, and then and then all the dogs pulled him out to safety.
00:32:22
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I was like, oh my god, this is incredible. This is so cool. Did this actually happen too? I'm glad you asked, thank you, John. Yes, I have. Of course. I knew this movie was inspired by true events. It's not like a true story. Right. So apparently, the movie is inspired by events that happened in 1958.
00:32:51
Speaker
um I have it right here. In 1957, there was a real Japanese expedition yeah and then apparently the whoever everyone in the expedition like had had to abandon the dogs and then they were all sled dogs, the husky dogs. um And the expedition team were brought and unable to return to retrieve the dogs.
00:33:20
Speaker
And so, but apparently, uh, when they returned a year later, well, okay. So in the true story, there was 15 dogs. Okay. The, um, they returned a year later and two of the dogs were still alive. Only two, but but but still like a year like that's yeah here it two dogs were still alive. It is, it's wild. And apparently these two dogs survived.
00:33:50
Speaker
So this is in Antarctica. These two dogs survived by learning to hunt penguins and seals in frozen marine life that surfaced on ice cracks. Crazy. I feel like penguins are not hard to catch, man.
00:34:10
Speaker
of waddling along? Well, yeah, I guess it it depends, you know, I guess where these big ones are, because obviously if they're in the water. It'd be hard to get oh why on the water if they're on the ice. I know that those little those little fuckers can move. So yeah. But so then apparently, too, ah there was a Japanese film in the 80s that was based off that um okay event in the 50s. So and then Disney kind of like took those ideas and made it. oh But it's just I guess.
00:34:40
Speaker
this random how like it just takes place in 93. So 93 is just right. That's what I was going to say. I was like, so why 93? Like that is random. Like it is. Yeah. There's no rhyme or reason. There's some like silly, like very like, like movie, like a movie is moving a lot in this, in this where we have Paul Walker, like getting desperate, trying to find someone who like will take him to Antarctica.
00:35:06
Speaker
um to to see just to just a see if you can find make sure these dogs are okay and this is this is like almost six months since they've been gone now so they didn't go by the true events and like wait a year like six months is long and like it kept showing the dogs everything like all their own it showed another one who like tripped up and hurt itself and they had to leave the dog behind. So that one, that one passed away. um And then there was a really cool scene where the dogs fought a, ah it was like a sea lion, what do they call it? It was like a leopard lion or leopard seal. It was a leopard seal, they called it. That's a very dangerous, it like came out of this dead killer whale that was like, like on top of this, site I don't know how this killer whale died, but ah
00:35:59
Speaker
But it was scary. And then then like the the dogs were trying to figure out a plan to lure the seal away from it so they can they could eat the seal themselves. I mean, I'm sorry. Eat the killer whale. That was good. It was cool like then coming up with a plan and trying to work together like to fool this leopard seal. um And it was scary, too, because that leopard seal doesn't fuck around. Not at all.
00:36:27
Speaker
Um, so it was cool seeing scenes like that. And then like, as far as Paul Walker, find someone, so he, he kind of like guilted the guy who, uh, who found that meteorite. You know, he's like, tell me, you know, these dogs saved your life. You know, like you have all this money, you know, you should, you should help, you know, help me with this. I mean, cause if it wasn't for them, you wouldn't be here. Um, so yeah it's been very, where it's really being a movie and everything and really just laying on the drama.
00:36:57
Speaker
We're like, he he's like he even goes to New Zealand trying to find some shipboat captain to take him to Antarctica from there. He's ever in Christchurch. And then like he's at this bar and then like his, his, his, his, like the love interest, like,
00:37:14
Speaker
like sees him at the bar and he's like, what are you doing here? And they're like, at the other side of the bar, you see Jason Biggs. He's like, well, what are you doing here? And then you see the guy that was saved by the dog. He's like, well, what are you doing here? He's like, well, I'm here to help you on the expedition. Let's go find those dogs. Like the way they kept popping out from the bar. I was like, Paul Walker, did you not notice any of these people were here? You you were looking around oh talking to all these chip chip boat captains.
00:37:38
Speaker
Like, they were just high the whole time until, like, the right moment. It was so silly. It was so silly. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's Disney in a nutshell right there. Yeah, that's so Disney. So Disney. But, so, yeah, he gets a ship to go through the ice to get as close to where their post was, where they left the dogs. And, like, right when they get there, the dog, like,
00:38:07
Speaker
The six dogs that were still alive all run up and, you know, that they're all like licking and hugging and Paul Walker and everybody. And, you know, for the most part, they're happy ending because I got the success because six of the eight, eight dogs survived. Right. I got you. But yeah, it was a, it was a hard, it was a heartfelt movie and especially as a lover, lover of dogs. It was, um,
00:38:35
Speaker
it was It was great, yeah. So did you did you enjoy the movie? I did, yeah. Because I have a confession, James. What? I have not seen that movie. but
00:38:49
Speaker
Well, as as I know you were lover of dogs, I think you would really enjoy it. Uh, yeah, more than likely. That's why I was like, well, I mean, I've never seen a movie with dogs, where dogs are, you know, with some of the star performers, you know, that I didn't enjoy. So I was like, it has to be. It's a lot better than Snow Dogs with Cuba Gooden Jr. Uh... Have you ever saw that one either? Wait, does that come out around the same time? Yeah, they've been keeping it like a year or two before. Ah, yes, okay. So, uh, yeah. Kind of funny, is it? I can't say that I've seen that one. Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:25
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely recommend 8 below over snoo dogs any day. ah But yeah, it just just seeing Paul Walker again was a it was nice. like it it it It made me like miss him.
00:39:39
Speaker
You said more. Well, it's interesting how like... ah Since you made me watch such the depressing movie, James, I'm gonna put a depressing thought out there is that... Okay. You're you're basically telling me that the entire cast... It is depressing. The entire cast is is is more than likely dead at this point, than because it's been like almost 20 years since that movie came out. That's true. The dogs don't live that long, James. As far as the dogs, Paul Walker. Oh, it's not funny though. It's funny but it's not. Most of the cast is sad.
00:40:11
Speaker
Yes, I'm in that old a movie. I know. Easy, yeah. But, but yeah, that's what. Yeah, for any dog lover out there, recommend watching this. I mean, it would be sad at times, depending on how much like Paul Walker, it would be even sadder, but. Oh, I think that. It's cool to see how smart these dogs are. because Yeah. Because these dogs, like, for how well-trained, it's fun to see.
00:40:38
Speaker
I mean I think some people underestimate like just how clever dogs can be though so especially like wild dogs and stuff too like I think I i was watching this one thing where it's like and these are just these are just wild like a wild pack of dogs and in some countries like ah the it Within the pack, they know which one is the cutest dog. And so they'll send that dog to try and like go get food from like tourists and stuff and doing his little cutesie cutesy stuff, right? They always send the cutest one out. Really? Because they know. That's funny. They would know. Yeah, the ah the one, the main dog in this one,
00:41:24
Speaker
had like the bluest eyes. right And there were even scenes where there was a scene where they were looking at like the i mean is it they really the northern lights if they're in Antarctica.
00:41:38
Speaker
but I don't know what they call them. It's the same thing. so It's like the um it's the Aurora Borealis. Yeah, Aurora Borealis. Yeah, that's what it is. So you're seeing the dog with the eyes. You're seeing the Aurora Borealis in the eyes of the dog looking up. Oh, damn. That's some good camera work doing that. Yeah. yeah I mean, the there were some scenes where everyone it was like, okay, this is CGI. you know They're not really out there. Yeah, there's like one scene with all these stars. They're looking out. like They're on the ship. Yeah. And you see like all these shooting stars coming down. Yeah. What is going on? Like when you don't see all these shooting stars, it's like all at once happening. um yeah Media showers you do. No, but but but but the way it was like happening, it was like very di a very Disney moment. I got you. Yeah. But ah yeah, I do recommend this one. ah
00:42:34
Speaker
I would watch again, for sure. ah Yeah, i well, to be honest, like, when we were, it's good. It's probably something that I will watch again in in in, like, the future quite a few years down. It's just, it's one of those draining movies that I don't tend to enjoy rewatching. Yeah. If ah if that makes any sort of sense, but it is good. I do recommend it. It, it like, yeah, it was a good movie. Like, it's...
00:43:00
Speaker
It's very well done. And and I know some people, like, that is kind of more their cup of tea in terms of movies and they'll rewatch it and like, yeah, like, have at it. It is well done. Like the little kind of cowboy standoff scenes we're talking about. There's some gunfights. Like, there there was some actually pretty cool gunfights for sure. So, yeah, all in all, I definitely enjoyed that one too. so Yeah, so so I guess that that that wraps it up for our snowy winter episode.
Episode Wrap-up and Next Week's Topic
00:43:27
Speaker
That is our 2025 winter episode. Oh, I can't wait to see what next year has in store. ah But okay, so for next week, for next week's episode, there was a ah big a big town director who just recently passed away, David Lynch. And we we want to go into, ah and ah and you you haven't seen or haven't don't remember any of his films, so I want to recommend to you his probably most notable film, Mahalan Drive.
00:43:59
Speaker
Okay, I have heard of that one. I'm not surprised, yeah. so But yeah I don't know anything about it, actually, so don't don't tell me anything. i just i've heard I've heard of the movies. I gotcha, I will tell you anything. I love going behind the movies. Yes. I definitely prefer that. I already know ahead of time that his movies are... Mindfuck. Yeah, they're always mindfucks. They're always mind folks they're always like like definitely out of the mainstream Hollywood. They're yeah weird.
00:44:29
Speaker
they're kind of funky so I mean I already know that going in so uh I was telling James before the show I think one of the few movies by him I had seen is Lost Highway and I watched this at a time like it was like I was telling James it was like it was significantly too young to be doing any type of drugs but watching the movie I remember being like I don't know what drugs are but they must feel like this yeah yeah yeah That's what a lot of people say about David Lynch's films. It's just funny. Yeah. so yeah and And honestly, I mean, like I probably would rewatch Lost Highway just to just to kind of see what it was like way back. Maybe it'll make more sense. Maybe it'll make less sense. I don't know. Yeah. And then for next week, I'll probably discuss a little bit of a Twin Peaks too, because that was one of his most popular shows back in the early 90s. And I was able to watch some of it. um
00:45:25
Speaker
a few years back for the first time. So we'll discuss that. but But the film I will be watching is called a film called Blue Velvet. It's a film of his. I've always wanted to watch and that he made in the 80s. So I'll be going into that one. So that that is our homework. But we I am sad that he has passed away. He is an all-time great director. So I'm excited for you to watch this one. See you, John.
00:45:53
Speaker
That sounds good, buddy. I am looking forward to it. Yeah, and it that does it for our show today. ah Hopefully you don't get a as much snow this week and hopefully I don't either. But we'll see. But yeah, that does it for us. Cheers. Cheers.