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Reviewing an oscar winner (The Brutalist) and a nomination (The Wild Robot). As well, a quick review of 'Captain America: Brave New World'.
Next Week: We're taking a break as Sleepy John takes in some sun in the Caribbean!
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Introduction to The Sleepy Games Podcast
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You're listening to the Sleepy Games Podcast.
Oscars and Unavailable Films Discussion
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And we're back for another episode of the Sleepy Games podcast. We are your hosts, James Games and Sleepy Jones. What up, Sleepy Jones? We're excited for today because we're still coming off all the Oscar hype.
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um At least a lot of the Oscar hype for me because I'm still coming down on it.
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And we're watching two we watched two movies that were that both won awards, or at least we tried to watch two movies that won awards, at least one that was nominated. um And that is The Brutalist and The Wild Robot.
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Unfortunately, we tried to have Sleepy John watch Flow since that was the Oscar winner for Best Animated Picture. But it was unavailable in Canada.
00:01:19
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Can you believe it? I don't know what's up with that. Like, they couldn't find a streaming platform. it wasn't for sale anywhere. the Canadians block flow. What's up that? Well, they like to censor everything up here. What can I say?
Review of 'Brave New World' and MCU Dynamics
00:01:35
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Yeah, that's a good reason. There you Yeah. um But I guess ah before we get into that, is there is there anything that you watched this week other than the movie that that you wanted to talk about that piqued your interest?
00:01:50
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oh I'm going to be honest. I'm pretty sure the only thing I watched this week was The Wild Robot. Nice. One quick thing I'll talk about. So I watched the latest Marvel movie.
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um I saw the... Craven? No. oh yeah Craven. Isn't that the newest one? No, the newest one was the new Captain America movie. Oh, right.
00:02:19
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Brave New World. Okay. And it so so this one, um if you watch Endgame, there's no Steve Rogers as Captain America. It's now the Falcon, who's the new Captain of America.
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And so he he's the lead. And then you have Harrison Ford, who was actually a recast from William Hurt, who was ah the general, um I want to say General McGaff, and that's not right.
00:02:55
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ah a Thunderbolt Ross. So William Hurt played him in The Incredible Hulk, the one with um Edward Norton. He was also he's also in Captain America Civil War.
00:03:08
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trying with the whole Sokovia Accords trying to bring down all the Avengers. So William Hurt sadly passed away ah a few years ago. Right. So they had to recast him because he does play a pivotal role in this new film.
00:03:24
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So Harrison Ford is the is the recast. And Harrison Ford is inherited for the president of the United States. So so he's got his Air Force One going on, you know? ah So, yeah. Get off my plane. Yeah.
00:03:39
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so he So he's the president now, a general term president president that that's happened throughout ah throughout American history. So it's not it's not so far-fetched. um And so what with the trail so the only thing I knew going into this film, I wasn't enthused going into it ah just because of the...
00:04:03
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The most recent Marvel movies just didn't really do it for me. like like I think the last more Marvel movie I really liked was No Way Home, the Spider-Man one. Yeah. and That's what I would actually say was like great.
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um But yeah, the last few were either boring or just the storyline. lot of the CGI, a lot of it just doesn't look that good. Yeah, they they they phoned it in for sure. Yeah.
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So it just seems like ever since Endgame, they're trying to reach the same heights and just failing miserably. Yeah. um But but yeah i'm not I'm not here to bash it too much. I mean, I can see them finding their footing again.
00:04:48
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but But anyway, that's for another that's for another day. Getting back to this movie. So the only thing I knew going into it from the trailers was that Harrison Ford or Thunderbolt Ross turns turns into Red Hulk.
00:05:04
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oh Oh. So I know you saw me the trailers for this movie. So my my anticipation the whole time is like, okay, he's eventually going to turn him. He's eventually going to turn into him. So that got me hyped. And so as someone who likes a lot of the Captain America movies, I think the Captain America movies are the best of all the ah ah Marvel movies like as a whole.
00:05:25
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Okay, yeah. I would see that. like I think the second one is probably top three best Marvel movies, The Winter Soldier. I would agree with that, yeah. Absolutely. And Civil War is probably like, mean, might be top five, but like, don't know, maybe six.
00:05:39
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But it's definitely in the in the running of top ones. but But it just because of the last few, like ah and I had my expert expectations low.
00:05:50
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But I'm happy to say I actually enjoyed it more than I thought. um It did follow the same beats as, like, the Winter Soldier did, like the whole espionage. Like, you're not sure, like, who's who's the brains behind the organization and, like, what's going on, like, behind the scenes.
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um And I also... You had you had one well The first villain they had was... You had Giancarlo Esposito, who's one of the main bad guys from Brick and Bad. I love that actor.
00:06:21
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And I'm glad they utilized him well in this. But I do feel like they could have used him more. like always Because i feel like... He was kind of like the first villain of the movie. And then like once he was dealt with, it's like, all right, yeah but really we got a bigger villain. I'm like, oh, okay. Well, I feel like you could use him more. I mean, he's still he was still a good villain on his own.
00:06:42
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You don't really need to put too many in here. Like ah too many characters makes a little sloppy. Yeah, that's like the first Spider-Man trilogy there. That's what they were, they were getting bogged down with the villains. That's is especially the the third Spider-Man. Yeah, the third Toby one.
00:06:59
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Um, so this one kind of called back. I think because it involved Thunderbolt Ross, who was in this movie, and then you had, like, a character from The Incredible Hulk.
00:07:11
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Did you watch that one? The, uh... um Edward Norton, Incredible Hulk? I watched both. There was the one with Eric Bana, there was the one with Edward Norton. Back then, ah did not have the superhero fatigue. i was pretty jazzed about all the movies. Yeah. Those, I mean, the Hulk has always been kind of a letdown. To this day, still waiting for the Hulk-Wolverine fight, which obviously never manifested, and...
00:07:38
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I think they just kind of took a steaming pile of shit on my dreams, James. Yeah, you really you really you really would think they would have it in Deadpool Wolverine, you know? ah Well, that's just, like I thought that I would have seen it by now, especially the amount of times Wolverine's been on the screen, for crying out loud. yeah its dead two Two Hulk movies, plus, obviously, all the times Hulk's been on the screen as well.
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It's ridiculous. I mean, Hulk even was a he was in with Thor and stuff. It's like, come on, man. I know. I'm sorry, man. Anyways, you're so passionate about breaks my heart. Well, it's done. It's done for me. i got the superhero fatigue.
00:08:13
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uh... Yeah, just... I can't say I got a whole lot of interest watching more movies. Unless, like, Nick Cage as Ghost Rider does it again, i probably I'd probably go watch.
00:08:28
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I probably would, too, actually. i was thinking about that. I'm like, uh, yeah, i mean... If it's the MCU doing it, I'd be curious what they do with it. but But anyway, as far as the overall the movie, I liked it for the most part. like The first two thirds, I was pretty invested.
00:08:44
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I liked where was going with the story. The ending fell a little flat, like the especially when the Hulk came in. You have like the big fight with the Hulk and Captain America.
00:08:55
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It was cool and all, but like the way ended, it's just like... Oh, I kind of expect a little more. It kind of just... It just ended abruptly. and I thought there was me more after it ended. I'm like, oh no, it's over. You know, it felt like it was a setting up for the next thing.
00:09:12
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You know, I was like, all right, this fight's over. Now we're gonna set up for the next next phase, the next movies. I'm like, okay, I guess that's cool. But I will say, the but I won't go into little bit of spoiler, but ah I was anticipating this to happen because I love the relationship, especially when when it started in Winter Soldier.
00:09:30
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the relationship between Falcon and the Winter Soldier with Bucky Barnes. So of course he had to come into the movie. And I did like the scene that they had together.
00:09:41
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I thought it was as well done. I was happy. But ah yeah, overall, well it was one of the better ones I've seen in this last, from like the last few that have come out.
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yeah um So yeah, I'd say give it a watch.
Universe Building: DC vs. Marvel
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When it's on video. I more than likely won't, but you never know. Yeah.
00:10:05
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i just it's It's like you said, too. I think that this is... why and that's something that DC I think was really guilty of, is that they were so focused on setting up their universe that I think that they really kind of lose sight of the movie that they're making. Right. And I think that that's something that, and and definitely in the most recent Marvel movies, I think that that's definitely what they've been doing. Like, even the Ant-Man one, Quantumania. Oh, that was awful.
00:10:34
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That they're so focused again, yeah, and on on making that that, the big bad, which I think that that big bad isn't the big bad anymore, I guess, but... Yeah, it's doomsday. Right, yeah, bring back... Yeah, it's like, I don't know, man. Like, it's...
00:10:49
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I don't know. no so So the next one coming out is supposed to be the new Fantastic Four. So I will be um cautiously optimistic with that one.
00:11:00
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Yeah, the last one was horrific. The last one was like 20 years ago. No, no, there was one in the middle there that you're forgetting. So that there was the ones with the... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:13
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Oh, that one was 10 years ago. Sorry. Yeah, so that that... I didn't see that one. I didn't see that actually... I like the original two, like, with the... Like, I actually thought they were all right. Like, I mean, I wasn't expecting much as the Fantastic Four. I don't it really... It was cheesy.
00:11:28
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Yeah, but it... I don't know, man. It's the Fantastic Four. It's, like, it's... I think that one of the things is like, they're they're an overpowered group, like, just in general. So I think it makes it very difficult to, you know, to to to make compelling stories with, I think, is always the ah challenge there, so... Well, I always say my favorite Fantastic Four movie is The Incredibles.
00:11:54
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That's my favorite. Right. yeah that's that's Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. yeah not Not the sequel, because the sequel was exactly the same as the original. was disappointed the sequel, but I hope they can make a... Yeah, it was.
00:12:09
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But they're making a third one, so i hope i hope I still have hopes for it, that they can redeem themselves. Okay. But yeah, anyway.
Exploring 'The Brutalist' and its Themes
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Anyway. Getting to the themes for today.
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since you both watched Wild Robot, we'll talk about that in a second. I want to go into the Brutalist. Brutalist. So wanted to watch this one because I like watching the film ah that the Best Actor award goes to.
00:12:35
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Right. And that was Adrian Brody. Right. And I will say, yes He is amazing in this movie. Okay. He's definitely, at least from the ah from the films I saw, from the ones that were nominated, he definitely deserved to win.
00:12:54
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Okay, so... He gives it his all. With a title, like the Brutalist, I mean, it it conjures... Because I have no idea what this movie is about. It conjures something up in my mind. Does Adrian Brody kill any predators in this movie?
00:13:08
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No. I'm a little disappointed. yeah so so So the Brutal is supposed to be because like because he's an architect. So it's a but just into making something out of nothing.
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It's a brutal task on its own.
00:13:26
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Oh, that's deep. It goes into because of... It got deeper than I thought because i kept thinking about it more because it was more of like...
00:13:37
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um like it was an underlining thing as far as even getting a movie made and I felt like that for the director it's like this is like a newer director too and you're making this movie I heard it was really cheap too it was like I think it was like 10 20 million it feels like a lot more because it's a period piece you're spanning like 10 15 years um And you feel like you're in this you're in this period this time period, in the 40s and 50s.
00:14:07
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Okay. And so I saw it too as far as like, you know, because when a director has a vision and you have certain obstacles in the way, like you have the producers, you have the studio that says, oh, you know, like you only we can only give you this certain amount of money.
00:14:23
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You have to do it. You have to make it so it's this length. You can't have it be three and a half hours. Right. Right. where this guy he probably had final cut he got what he wanted and he in in and and so good on him so he he can make the movie that he wants without any interference so getting to the film there i i saw i noticed a lot of that when i was watching because i mean so in the beginning you so the other thing that i thought was fascinating too i thought going in this was all like a true story
00:14:55
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And then realizing after after the movie, it's like, oh, this is all fictional. Oh, this guy doesn't exist. These buildings don't exist. I was they looking up, I like, oh, oh did did he finish this building? like like like Can I see this in real life? It's like oh no this is this is this isn't real.
00:15:11
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I'm like, oh wow. But it was that convincing where I thought it was like a biopic. ah um So kudos to that because yeah like when you have everything like so authentic throughout, you're just like, okay, this has to be based off something, you know?
00:15:30
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But anyway, with his character, he's he's a hallcar so ah Holocaust survivor. um And then he he he he moves ah to America he escapes, gets to America after the war ends.
00:15:44
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And it was it was a cool shot. And I noticed like this is part of the poster because I thought this is is as unique. How like when he's like looking up from the boat when he's traveling across the Atlantic to get to America, they have they have the Statue of Liberty upside down.
00:15:58
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So the way it's shot, it's like this it's like it's disorienting in a way. But right I was like thinking, what is this supposed to symbolize? like You're seeing America upside down.
00:16:09
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you know So I'm like, okay, so so it's not like the he's seeing the dream a different way. like not like Maybe like not the American dream that most like people think about. but just so like More like the brutal dream. Yeah. The brutal nightmare.
00:16:25
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We'll be literal about it. Okay. yeah but ah But I thought it was cool because they held that shot for a while. i'm like, okay, that they're doing this intentionally. They really want to make you think about this. so um So yeah he he goes through some hardships and everything with with some friend, family, person he meets there.
00:16:46
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And he yeah He gets it because he is an architect. he He gets this job to redo this wing of this rich guy's house that turned into a library.
00:16:59
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And that's where we meet one of my other favorite characters in the movie, who's an actor that I've missed ah for many years. And he's actually one of my favorite movies of all time. ah That is the actor Guy Pearce.
00:17:13
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do you know Do you know Guy Pearce? Yeah, of course I know who Guy Pearce is. Oh, okay. Just making sure. so so So he's in one of my favorite movies, um Memento. And like, this is probably the best performance I've seen him do since Memento.
00:17:30
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And I was so happy. He was so good in this. I was like, oh my God. It's gonna be so exciting every time he's on screen. ah yeah he Like he's like this ah rich of kind of, I mean, like he seems like comes from like old money or like he he's self or self-made or something. But like, he talks like, I am like the richest guy here in all the land.
00:17:53
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and You can have whatever you want. You can stay here with me. whatever you like. He talks like that. um but ah with Which I absolutely adored every time he spoke. and like in the relationship So he's the one funding the project that he ah he gets. ah Well, yeah it gets a little messy when they first meet. But when they actually get together and talk about a project that he wants, I really love the relationship they had.
00:18:18
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Because you can take a could tell with Guy Pearce, he was was fully invested and and just like how Adrian Brody's character worked, how his mind worked, how we developed these ideas to come up with these buildings.
00:18:32
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um Because he showed like all the work that he did um in Europe before before world War II happened. And it just showed how he was like way ahead of his time, of very modern for the time. And Guy Pearce wanted to make something like that in Pennsylvania.
00:18:52
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So it was just cool just how curious and and how fascinated he was, fascinated by his brain and um So it was just cool seeing that. But then you kind of see, like, the dark side of Guy Pearce. So you kind of see, like, how he's little bit two-faced in a way.
00:19:08
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Okay. Where when things go wrong, like, nobody's safe. like like Like, he'll let you go like that. He'll say, fuck you. Like, you're fired. Like, go find other work.
00:19:19
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Like, yeah ah you're dead to me. And then, so so that would happen. like It would be like almost, like, bipolar in a way. But, um... and And then then then like he'll come back to him and be like, oh, wait, no, actually, i want you to finish the building.
00:19:32
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like I promise I'll be nice. I'll be good. you know Let's let bygones be bygones. And like Guy Pearce is very convincing enough. I'm like, you know what? Maybe he just had a bad day. you know maybe Maybe things weren't going right for him. you know He had like an excuse yeah i he very convincing excuses like to make it seem like, oh, yeah, maybe he will be better this time.
00:19:51
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Come Adrian. yeah It'll be okay this time. he He'll make sure to get you paid and your family will be okay. Classic abusive relationship right there. Oh, man.
00:20:03
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Well, I don't want to go into the spoiler spoilery stuff. I guess I could. we No, I don't want to. Because it kind of gets even darker from there. but but ah But before getting into any of that, I'm going to go into the length.
00:20:16
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So this movie is three and a half hours. right So there is actually... So that first like hour 45? Yep. um um really I guess the first half hour was a little slow, but once Guy Pearce came in, I that hour flew by.
00:20:33
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Okay. I checked the time. I'm like, oh, shoot. That was an hour? Whoa. I was like fully invested. i think because... like So you ever see the movie ah
00:20:45
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There Will Be Blood with ah Daniel Day-Lewis? ah where Where he's like an oil tycoon, he like strikes oil and becomes rich. yeah You know what, that's actually one of the... like I didn't actually get around to seeing that one even though like I wanted to. And I do love Daniel Day-Lewis.
00:21:03
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ah but no i That's probably his best movie I've ever seen him in. He's got quite the stache in that one. Yes he does! I feel like his stache has its own credits even.
00:21:16
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so So the reason I bring that up because the movie kind of reminds me of that. Okay. Where there's, where like you're having this dream, but certain things get in the way and get taken from you and it kind of gets in your head and you become, I don't know, like you're, yeah like in your mind, you're becoming too powerful and you're not thinking about the simpler things.
00:21:42
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Like nothing else, nothing else like you care about anymore except for like this vision you have. Yeah. And people suffer because of it. Yeah. No one man should have all that power. Yeah, we talked about that. Yes.
00:21:59
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So, so i mean, it's so I know I'm speaking lot of its praises, but you do feel the length. Like, for for all the good scenes I see, there are parts where it drags a bit.
00:22:13
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And I do feel the length. And I think most of it is in the second half of the movie. Yeah. um So you have, it's the first movie I've seen in a long time that actually has has an intermission.
00:22:26
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They literally, the movie stops. It says, it puts a screen, it puts a black and white screen of like a wedding day. It says intermission. There's a countdown during this.
00:22:37
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I think it was like two minutes. I mean, obviously you can pause or whatever. And so just lend the audience notes. Like, hey, you need to go to the bathroom, grab a snack, go do it now. Because we're only halfway through, half halfway through this bitch.
00:22:48
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You know? So. So I'm like, okay, so so in the first half, he has yeah hes his wife is narrating lot of the scenes, but you never see her.
00:23:02
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So once the intermission's over, it gets to that second half, and then she does come into play. like So his wife, Adrian Brody's wife, was they've been separated since the war.
00:23:15
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And I think there was some issues logistically or she she she just couldn't get out of the country for I forget the reason. It was like it was like several years that they were apart.
00:23:26
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So when she gets there, she actually has some disease where she's in a wheelchair. She she she can barely even walk. Ooh. And that was a shock to him because because he he didn't even know. ah She didn't even tell him this.
00:23:40
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Right. Well, it's just you're talking about like snail mail back in the day, assuming you would even get there. Well, she didn't tell him. Right. She could have in the letters, but but she decided not to, so he was a little upset about it.
00:23:53
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But so... but so so i liked when her character was introduced it brought in a different dynamic with with with uh adrian brody yeah and it just it showed more layers to his character which i appreciated because he's he's not the best guy like you know and that there was some infidelity that there's some drug use but like he suffered from the from the drug abuse because uh during um during when he was uh in the concentration uh during the concentration camp i think his nose got busted and like it was like severe pain so he was taking like uh heroin
00:24:26
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um to to subdue the pain and he got addicted to it. um But he, but yeah, that whole thing comes in. But they also bring it in this niece character.
00:24:39
Speaker
And I feel like this niece character was not needed, but i but it wasn't until the end of the movie where I realized why they had her. And it's also one of my complaints is the ending of the movie. It's like, it's what they tell you what it is. Like, oh, this is the epilogue.
00:24:57
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I'm like, okay, what are they going to do with this? So they basic basically age everybody up. And so then like the niece does this speech about all the great works that Adrian Brody did throughout the years. So it like jumped like 30 years from like, from like the last ah scene with Adrian Brody.
00:25:16
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um And just like, layna oh, he made this, he made this, he made this. And I was like, wait, this is how you're ending the movie? like And there was a scene before this that was like so riveting.
00:25:28
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It was between his wife and Guy Pearce. And I was in shock. I was like, oh shit, like it's good it's getting really, really real here. And then it kind of just like ends there. And it's like, okay, but right now we're going to fast forward.
00:25:42
Speaker
however many years, and then here's the niece talking about all the great things about ah his ah her uncle. I'm like, and then it's just over? I'm like, oh. so So three and a half hours, and that's how you want to end it?
00:25:56
Speaker
It just seemed like it could have been fleshed out a little better. I think the niece character wasn't, especially knowing that it's fictional. yeah don need You don't need her character. They literally brought her character in for that ending.
00:26:08
Speaker
So when she's going over all of his, like, you know, his works and his buildings that he designed and stuff like that, do they throw, like, shoutouts to, you know, electricians and plumbers and all the tradespeople and the people that actually construct the fucking thing? Or is it just, oh my god, this guy's life is so hard, he designs buildings?
00:26:28
Speaker
It's the latter. ha ha. He totally has to stand on scaffolding, you know, like 250 feet in the air, and yeah balancing on some winds and shit.
00:26:42
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Yeah, so I was kind of taken aback, but I was like, wait, it's over? That's how they're ending it? so and then but But it still doesn't take away for a lot the greatness and why I understand a lot of the acclaim this movie had.
00:26:55
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um you know Don't get me wrong, like, Agent Brody, what a tour the forest performance absolutely amazing he like what he did the range he has um like it might be his best performance it might like it might be better than predators is it i don't why you like that movie so much
00:27:16
Speaker
Actually, i don't know. I think, i think it honestly, it was the opening scene. He's falling out but he's falling out at while he's falling in midair. And like that's how they opened the movie. I was like, this is a cool way to open a movie. It is fun with Agent Bray because he had an interesting career like once he had his first actor ah his first Oscar when he went for the pianist.
00:27:35
Speaker
Right. um Because then I know he went he went into King Kong. um I think did the jacket. Yeah. The Jackie. Actually, i I remember liking that one, if yeah memory serves. It was a weird movie, but I actually remember thinking it was like pretty neat.
00:27:50
Speaker
Time travel again, i think, right? Yeah. So yeah he definitely had some odd film choices. um And then then he was also he was in a great season of Peaky Blinders.
00:28:02
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That's for sure. If you ever watched that show. he He played a great villain in Piggy Blinders. But speaking of great villains, Guy Pearce turned into a villain because he he played someone who you think is there for you.
00:28:15
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but then we'll turn on you in an instant. There's one very dark scene that I'm like watching him it's like, oh, he's consoling him. And I'm just like, wait, no, he's not.
00:28:26
Speaker
Fuck. I'm not going to go into what it is, but but it comes around towards the end of the movie. And I was like, whoa, that was wild. But ah yeah, so overall, i did I did like it more than I thought.
00:28:42
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um for being three and a half hours. Will I watch it again? Probably not because it is that long. I probably just watched maybe certain clips again. Would you say it's brutal to get through?
00:28:55
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yeah Some scenes.
00:29:00
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Some scenes, yes, but but but but for the most part, I think it it it wasn't as brutal as I thought it was going to be. already alright yeah so I think I'll get give it a look on the This would be Games Meter.
00:29:13
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I'd give it like a 3 out of 5. So what, you'd like... That's the one you'd watch it again? is that well Maybe I should... we should pull I gotta pull out this meter again. No, I'd probably give it 3.5.
00:29:26
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3.5? What does that mean? Well, because because i think a 3 is too low, because because there's so much I liked about it. But it was just the things I didn't like, they they stuck with me.
00:29:39
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Because i think when the ending is sour like that, it makes it feel worse than what it really is. And because the movie is so long and a lot of it is still really good, I really shouldn't harp on just that.
00:29:56
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Right. Because of how long it is.
00:30:00
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Because I feel like they cut out that and then flushed it out a little bit more towards the end and fine-tuned it. It could have been... Could have been an instant classic is what you're saying. Yeah, don't know about instant classic, but... Because I still think as far as epics and this type of film, because I think There Will Be Blood is... I think that's like the top.
00:30:23
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Top of the top when it comes to epic, like kind of American dream type of story. Right. Right. so so So based on the ah the Sleepy Games scale here, you're in between would watch it again and would buy it.
00:30:37
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Yeah, I'm in between that, yes. You are, I agree with You would watch it again. You're not really sure if you would buy it, though. Yeah, I'd probably watch it again and fast-forward through different scenes. That's what I do. That's kind of like falling asleep to it on TV, in my mind. But anyway, I mean... I'm not watching... I had to break this movie up two nights.
00:30:55
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I can't watch this all in one... I couldn't imagine watching this in theaters. Yeah, this Even though, like, what? the The movie we saw last year was about three and a half hours. the ah The Leo Monsignor Stacey one.
00:31:07
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Right. That was pretty long. That was very long. Right. um
00:31:15
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I agree. Three and a half out of five. Okay. Yeah. In between Biden would watch it again. I like that. Alrighty. Alrighty. That sounds good, buddy. Yeah.
00:31:27
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Okay.
Review of 'The Wild Robot' and Its Impact
00:31:29
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So onto on to the wild robot? On to the wild robot. What did this movie make you think of? What did it make me think of? Yeah.
00:31:43
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Is this supposed to be reminding me of, uh... Like, another movie or something that? Uh, I... What went to, it made me think of, like, The Iron Giant. Okay, actually, well, it... Like, yes, I mean...
00:31:57
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Yeah, like, ah that there's definitely so some similarities, I guess. Yeah. I think The Iron Giant still has a bit more fondness in my heart because it's a bit bit of an older movie. Yeah.
00:32:08
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I feel like there's a bit more, uh...
00:32:12
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Well, i don't I shouldn't say that. I mean, like we're... It was a good movie. I did enjoy it. Do you want to start with you your your overall... No, I want to hear yours. You're the one... I talked about this on the show before.
00:32:30
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oh yeah, I guess you you did quickly. yeah Yeah, we did quickly. Everyone wants to know your thoughts, man. Come on. I mean, okay, I will say... ah Okay, first off, I mean, I know it's a G-rated movie.
00:32:44
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I feel like there's certain scenes where I'm just like, I don't think this is really appropriate for, like, six-year-olds stuff. You know what's funny? The scene I just thought of when you said that was when...
00:32:56
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uh i forget what animals they were i forget if there were but some kind of rodent or something but the mom had like a family of seven and then like oh yeah one just like fell down he's like yeah i got seven kids and went oh no six kids i'm like you're back oh Yeah. I died. That was one of the funniest things.
00:33:26
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Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. No, I definitely found myself like laughing at few spots like that. Yeah. Because there is some very morbid humor. but like Yes. Typically, I find with G-rated movies, traditionally, if there's jokes...
00:33:41
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that are, I would say, more adult-orientated, they're typically like double entendre, right? Like, yeah it'll kind of go over like a six-year-old's head. In this case, like, I don't think they're gonna do that. like and i was Like, I was surprised. There couple spots I was like, I get that it's a kid's movie, but like, damn, like, this is okay.
00:34:04
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So, and again, not not that that's anything bad, I guess. I mean, it made me enjoy the movie more, so, I mean, there is that. But I did i did check the back of the box. I was like, it's not even PG. It's just a G movie. Okay, whatever.
00:34:17
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but so But, yeah, so that's it. That was the first thing I'd say about it. I mean... Overall, like i I actually found it it was pretty enjoyable. It is definitely... ah It seems like an emotional emotional movie. you know i I watched it with with the woman and she she teared up a bit.
00:34:38
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Even though, I mean, realistically... There's not really a reason to tear up. like You know what I mean? like I don't know what you mean, because I teared up. so you you're you're you're ah you' but like You're on your own island here. It's not like it's got a sad ending. is it's Everything's good. like it's It's a happy ending.
00:34:57
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Anyways, but it is an emotional movie. Happy and sadness can go together, man. I understand. i know sometimes people, it's just like it's an overwhelming yeah emotion.
00:35:08
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Yes. Have you ever seen Inside Out? Uh, I have, i think I was really stoned. ah what Yeah, like, hi I remember watching that, was like, I had way too many edibles for this one. Anyways.
00:35:24
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Uh, yeah, so definitely is an emotional movie. I felt like some of the the the things that explored, like the, I guess I guess i call it philosophy, but it's like,
00:35:35
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The, uh, when I think the, the leader, the original leader of the, uh, of the flight migration there, when he's talking to, basically the young bird, and he's like, yeah, he's like, if, if the robot hadn't killed your parents, you probably wouldn't be alive now.
00:35:55
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which is like because he would have just been the runt and he wouldn't he wouldn't have made it right oh yeah yeah yeah so it's like it's kind of interesting like exploring stuff like that i was like man that's actually like that's pretty deep like i never really thought about that watching until the movie pointed out be like yeah you're right like you he wouldn't have made it he was the rent and stuff i was like pretty neat uh so stuff like that i thought was was was pretty cool like you know and obviously they're they're trying to make some sort of uh i think commentary about how the wild can be more civilized than, you know, civilization too, right? So it's like, the stuff like that was pretty cool, like, and when she starts off, she's like slapping stickers on everything, right? you Yeah.
00:36:36
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ah so yeah, like, she's programmed to do. yeah yeah, so some of the commentary that way, like, I thought was really well done, like, All in all, like I actually i can't say i have anything bad to say about the movie.
00:36:50
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I think it was it was pretty solid front to back. like it I think it had good pacing. it wasn't It's not a very long movie. No. Which is also nice. The humor was good. The animation was gorgeous.
00:37:01
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Yes, actually that is one thing. it is very unique. Yeah. Because basically you have, like the characters are done in one way and then the background is almost like, it's it's almost like they're doing like oil canvases and paintings and stuff like that. It's pretty neat the way they they did that that type of animation. Like, I'm not sure that I've seen that in another movie before like specifically like i know that a lot of animated movies are really up in their game when it comes to animation but like that was pretty surreal though yeah it didn't it didn't feel like a typical cgi type of animated movie no not at all like it it it felt like it doesn't feel it doesn't feel cgi'd and at the same time it doesn't like
00:37:48
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Yeah, it's it kind of like it's its own thing. Like, it's pretty cool. It's like watching a moving painting that has like like a lot of detail. It's pretty cool. like It's funny you say because I thought the same thing with Flo as well.
00:38:01
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Right. I feel like it had a similar animation style. um Maybe a little more with... They went with like... I feel like with certain brush strokes or brush strokes that they did ah to make it feel more like a painting.
00:38:17
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Right. With flow and everything. But it's just crazy how both these movies came out around the same time and both fighting for the same award the same year. Indeed.
00:38:30
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And how I think most people most people would say that those two are the best of of the year. So, i and i do well I do want you to see Flo. I hope you can find it.
00:38:42
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I do. Yeah, I'm sure it'll pop up but sooner or later. I probably will get around to watching, especially because like this one was it was really good. I enjoyed it. like funny Funnily enough... The music was really good, too. i really love the music.
00:38:56
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Yeah. A lot. It stuck with me. Yeah, like I said, I mean that there's not i don't really have anything... bad to say about the movie at all. Funnily enough, like i I ended up buying it because Well, because I was out looking for the other movie, and then I saw this one, and then I was like, well, fuck it, I'll just buy it.
00:39:14
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And I bought the... Why doesn't Canada have this on streaming yet? i don't get it. The Wild Robot? Or the Flow?
The Value of Physical Media and Nostalgia
00:39:21
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No, both, because here and here in America, a Flow you can watch on HBO.
00:39:25
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And I think the Wild Robot you can watch on Peacock. No, the Wild Robot, I think you can. i didn't actually look for it once I bought the movie, but I was already out. And I was like, I don't actually know if it's on anything. I was like, ah, screw it. was like, it was like 20 bucks. There you go.
00:39:39
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and And you know what? It's kind of interesting because like there were some special features in there and it kind of they kind of pop up automatically after movie, so i ended up watching a fair bit of it. Okay. it's like It's pretty cool watching like the the act the actual actors you know doing their voice acting. You've got Pedro Pascal and Catherine O'Hara and stuff, and it's like it's kind of cool to... oh yeah.
00:40:00
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yeah it does ah Pedro, who's like the tiger something? What was he? is a ah he's the the fox fox. Fox. Fox. Yeah, fox. Thank you. And then they had Mark Hamill the bear.
00:40:11
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Yep. That one I didn't notice at all. like ah But yeah, that's kind of neat. And my girl, who's the robot, Lupita Nyong'o. Love her. Right? Yeah, it was was actually very good very good voice acting, for sure.
00:40:24
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ah But yeah, it kind of reminded me of like back in the day. is like I used to actually like enjoy, on on some movies, not all them, but like the special features, or like there's deleted scenes and stuff like that. like it's ah I missed that.
00:40:38
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you don't You don't get that with streaming anymore, you know what I mean? No. So, and I... No, we only got that with ah you know the DVD extras.
00:40:50
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Exactly. DVD special features. Yeah, because a lot yeah a lot of times when you're on, when you're streaming with anything like on Netflix, HBO, whatever, there's no bonus features included. like You have to like watch it like on YouTube or something if there's anything.
00:41:05
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So I'm glad to include that for when you buy it. Because I guess when you do buy the film, maybe that's like the ah the incentive to buy because that that's what it it does come with.
00:41:17
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um Because it's not just like, here go, now you have it, you can shoot me whenever you want. Yeah. So yeah, that's kind of nice. I like that. Yeah, I mean, and i mean honestly, like you know I did buy it. and i mean like I would watch it again, so it's not a waste of money. so Sometimes you buy you know back in the day, you'd buy something, you're like, oh my God, there's some garbage right now.
00:41:40
Speaker
Can I get a refund? Can I read can i resell it for a fraction of what I paid for? so It could be brutal back in the day, but ah you you want to talk about building or designing a building, James. and you you You get a double feature and you buy two of them and you're like, oh, what was this crap?
00:42:01
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I forgot about those double feature DVDs. then There's like two for one deals. ah Like you get one box for it had two movies in it. yeah the one i The one I have, i have ah i like the one I have.
00:42:15
Speaker
It's a Terminator 2 and Total Recall. Oh. Yeah. If it had Terminator 1, it'd be even better. Nope. I mean, agree to disagree, James.
00:42:27
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I like how there's two different different to different types of movies. What do you mean but mean? Because you have two Arnold classics. Right. Two Arnold good guys.
00:42:38
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Maybe that's what they're good at going for. Two good guy Arnolds.
00:42:43
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I mean, I guess so, but... Yeah, that that probably is what they're... It's kind of weird to have one movie and then the other one's a sequel. I also think... I think both those movies came i think they came out back-to-back years.
00:42:58
Speaker
You might be right, actually. Maybe that's what they're doing. 90 or something? Yeah. Yeah, it was at 90, yeah, and then Terminator 2 was 91. Yeah. yeah right but yeah both classic arnold's i miss those days with me as this package deals
00:43:17
Speaker
we i always remember there there's a south park um episode where they go to walmart or the walmart you remember that episode and uh and then there was like a box set of uh and then they made fun of this it was like it was three copies of time cop It was three copies of the same movie. Yeah. I think it was like Kyle's like, three copies of Time Cop? don't even want one copy of Time Cop. Because you have no taste. Yeah, I know.
00:43:50
Speaker
Oh, that always stuck with me. Oh my god. I think, actually, I'm pretty sure I saw that movie in theaters, James. Wow. I was excited it. Whoa.
00:44:03
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So, did did Time Cop try to follow up the success Terminator? i I don't think so, because I feel like they're not like I mean, I could be wrong. I feel it was a few years between those two movies. I thought Time Cop came out in 95 or something. Oh, it was like mid ninety s Okay. Somebody that thought was early 90s, too.
00:44:23
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I could be wrong. i mean, you know what? we We have the power. I'll look. I'll look right now, James. I'll look right now.
00:44:32
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Time Cop. And ah now i want to watch some Time Cop again. Other multiple Time Cops. that There might be, but the OG Muscles from Brussels. 1994, it says, so... I mean, there was a lot of time travel in the early 90s.
00:44:50
Speaker
Yeah. So, you know, it might have just been kind of going off of that, I guess. Did Demolition Man, did that have time travel in it? ah Well, he gets frozen, so he frozen but you could argue that because he he wakes up in the future. That's what it was, okay. is it Cryogenically frozen. Demolition Man is a fucking classic. Love that movie.
00:45:11
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Watched it way too many times. That's one of those movies, if I see it on TV, instantaneously, I know what I'm doing for the next next hour or two, depending on where I found myself in the middle of that movie.
00:45:23
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Oh, that's a beautiful thing. can't You can't not watch it. Nope.
00:45:29
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Um, ah wait, to so your overall rating for what for the Wild Robot? Well, seeing as how I did buy it... So yeah, we know you're rating from that! yeah buy for I bought it I will watch it again so it's getting the four ah i mean realistically like in terms of like animated and stuff like that like you probably could put it in the ah the area of instant classic of the the animation is is yeah on it's own is surreal it was very well done i really I got nothing bad to say about this movie whatsoever i don't think I would change anything um it was yeah was just a good was a good flick
00:46:09
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ah I don't think I gave my rating before, but I'd probably give it the same. I would definitely buy it. But if I had to rate it between Flo and Wild Robot... Yeah. I think because... think Flo stuck with me more. I'll give it to Flo. It's so close.
00:46:25
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It's so close. Okay. But I'll give it to Flo. I'll give to Flo. all right. Well, I mean, when I get there... I'm someone who hates cats. I don't like cats.
00:46:37
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I'm still good with the flow. Hmm. I mean, I get that. Yeah. they're ah They're kind of like assholes of the animal kingdom. Well, that and I'm definitely allergic.
00:46:49
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Oh, is is that why you don't like them? Well, I mean, that that's a big part of it. Oh. you have me social say You know many social situations I could have there were no cats around?
00:47:03
Speaker
Oh my god. i would breathe a much happier life. Ah, that makes sense, I guess. You don't even know, man. You don't know what what what it feels like. I mean, I have allergies. They're just nowhere near as bad as as that. so Cat allergies are the worst. Yeah, I definitely... I do get some allergies ah here and there.
00:47:25
Speaker
think the bigger allergy is just that, you know, cats are dicks sometimes. I'll just be sitting there minding my own business. This guy comes up, he just bites me for no reason. I can't bite. That asshole. like, the hell, man?
00:47:37
Speaker
What did I do to you? exactly I'm just sitting there minding my own business. He goes up, bites me. I was like, whatever. Oh, man. ah But anyway, i think that that wraps it up for for today's show.
00:47:52
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does. We will be taking a few a couple of week break, but we will be back. Yep. Sleepy John's gonna get some Sleepy Son. Yes, you you deserve a nice and nice little vacay, Sleepy John.
00:48:06
Speaker
Thanks, buddy. I'm looking forward to it. ah Make sure send me plenty of photos, videos, yeah and or just call me when you're there. I'm here for you.
00:48:17
Speaker
Call you when I'm there? Yeah, call me. Okay. okay Like WhatsApp you? Yeah, WhatsApp me, yeah. I'm here man.
00:48:26
Speaker
I'll talk to you for like an awkwardly long time too. No, I'll hang up. I'll hang up. No, no, no. gotta go. See ya.
00:48:38
Speaker
I'll watch The Brutalist again before that happens. Sounds good, buddy. Alright. Take care. Cheers.
00:48:49
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Cheers.
00:49:10
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