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Introduction and Book Promotion
00:00:00
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Welcome back to Connecting Minds podcast, Christian Jornoff here. Just a quick reminder folks, if you haven't bought my new book on longevity, how to actually live longer volume one, please get yourself a copy. Like I said before, if this book doesn't extend your life by at least 10, 20 high quality years, you get your money back in the end. So zero risk, try it out, zero risk.
00:00:23
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Now,
Meet the Guest: Adina and Her Health Journey
00:00:24
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today's guest is one of my clients. We just call her Adina. No last names needed. Adina, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me.
00:00:34
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So you have, you're actually quite a unique client of mine. So I don't normally do single sessions with people. I like to do like minimum. Actually, I just did away with the three month package from now on. I'm only working with people for six months minimum up to a year because I want to, I want to give people transformation, not tips, but you are different. You're unique.
00:00:58
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because we met on the forum and you are one of those true DIY health seekers. Most people,
Discovering Hashimoto's: Diagnosis and Misdiagnosis
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honestly, they can at best frustrate themselves and get nowhere, but you have done a lot with your personal research and stuff like that. So it's always nice to kind of put a spotlight on people like you because it just goes to show you when you decide you want to heal yourself,
00:01:26
Speaker
Nothing, nothing will stand in your way. So to start, do you want to give the listeners a little bit of your health journey, your backstory, all that stuff? Okay. Well, for many years, I sort of just ignored my health because I didn't have any overt problems and I was too busy being a mom. So my focus was all entirely on my child.
00:01:53
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But basically, I could what really brought everything to a head was I just was like, I just kept gaining weight that I couldn't lose. And I was always a slender person my whole life. So to me, I was like, what is going on? So I went into the doctor. I had I had at the time, I was part of a large health maintenance organization. And I went to the doctor and what they did was
00:02:23
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they pulled my TSH hormone. So that stands for thyroid-stimulating hormone. It's basically the signaling hormone that your brain sends to your thyroid to knock on the door to say, hey, thyroid produced something, right? And so what happens is if your thyroid's really not
00:02:44
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Producing much and I'm explaining this to you. I know that you know, but maybe some of the listeners can find it helpful If your thyroid is not responding or not producing much the the door knock gets louder and louder, right? So your TSH keeps going up and up like hey, hey buddy wake up do stuff and so but because they pulled it in the afternoon and
00:03:08
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my TSH wasn't particularly elevated. It was like three, and I forget the units of measurement, but the range is like point, the normal range, what mainstream medicine calls the normal range is like 0.4 to 4.5. So number one, that's problematic in and of itself.
00:03:29
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And number two, the fact that they only look at TSH obviously is problematic. We can talk about that in a bit, but so mine came back normal, but I was like, no, something's wrong. So I paid cash to see.
00:03:42
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a cash doctor and she pulled it first thing in the morning and it was like 7.5,
Navigating the Healthcare System for Thyroid Care
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right? So it was considered elevated. So then I was able to go back to my HMO doctors and say, hey, this was elevated, can you run a full panel? And they did that with antibodies and it turned out that I had Hashimoto's.
00:04:01
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which is like, how long did I have that without them knowing because all they were doing for many, many years was pulling TSH, which always came back normal as recently as like a year prior to the diagnosis, my afternoon TSH was like two, right? So it's like, I would say to anyone listening,
00:04:21
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Thyroid is so key. You really want to look at your entire thyroid panel. Sorry, just to ask, what sort of symptoms were you experiencing at that time that's told you? Is it just the weight gain? Was there any other? The weight gain was the only thing I noticed. But now that I've optimized my thyroid with a lot of medication and some pro metabolic principles and things like that,
00:04:49
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Now looking back, I had crushing fatigue like between the hour of like three to four in the afternoon, which is very typical of someone whose thyroid is struggling. I just didn't know it wasn't normal. Like I was just thinking, Oh, everyone's tired. Yeah. You know, cause of lunch.
00:05:07
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Yeah, exactly. And so I had very, my whole life I've had somewhat dry skin and dry hair. And it, I guess it just became progressively drier. And I just sort of thought, Oh, I'm just getting old, you know, but actually like I had, I used to have like crevasses in my hand where the skin was so dry. It was, it was literally cracking.
00:05:30
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And as it turns out, that was thyroid because as soon as I optimized thyroid, my hands are very smooth and don't have that anymore. But again, I wasn't pinpointing that as a symptom. The only thing I really, really noticed that was really bothering me was just waking that I couldn't lose. Like I would diet and maybe lose 10 pounds, but as soon as I stopped restricting calories, it would come back.
00:05:55
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And I was like, this isn't normal. Like I shouldn't have to starve myself to be like not overweight or like, you know, or I would start my, I got to the point where I would starve myself, but still be overweight. And I was like, how is that normal? Something's off. And so that's the only thing that really brought me in. But looking back now that I've optimized, I see a lot of, you know, the dry skin, dry hair is resolved. The fatigue, I don't have it anymore. Yeah. So.
00:06:26
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When they diagnosed you with Hashimoto's, what did they do next? Well, so basically they just gave me a lecture about how they really only look at TSH. It's the most important hormone to look at and they put me on TSH.
00:06:46
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T4 only medication, levothyroxine, which has a lot of different brand names, right? And since I didn't really trust my HMO, because in particular, I won't name names, but my HMO, in the case of the HMO that I had, it's kind of a unique model where
00:07:06
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the provider network, the doctors are part of like the insurance company. So they're one in the same. So that just it's always made me feel uncomfortable because the doctors get bonus based on like basically keeping costs low, which means that in some cases you could argue they're withholding care.
00:07:28
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But in any case, I just didn't really trust this whole like, oh, we're only going to look at TSH, especially when it was explained to me that TSH is not a thyroid hormone. So every single time they would pull TSH, I would actually pay cash for my own full thyroid panel.
00:07:45
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And what I could see was that no matter how much they raised my T4 medication, my free T3 level was not going up at all. It never went up at all. So I was like, oh, that's odd. And I started really digging into research and finding that
00:08:03
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Free T3, which is the one lab that the typical medical model will ignore the very most, is actually the one lab that patient
Exploring Alternative Health Approaches
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reports. If you increase their Free T3 level, it actually moves in lockstep with just how much better they feel.
00:08:22
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So, um, but it's the one that gets ignored the very most. I mean, you might get a doctor. Yeah, it's because you might get a doctor that will also look at free T four, but they never pull free T three. I've had endocrinologists tell me, well, I don't think it's accurate.
00:08:39
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Get this now. I have one client. She heard TSH at one point was off the charts, literally like 150. That's where off the charts is. And previous times it would be like 40, 40, right? Or more. I can't even remember the numbers now, but they did not test for anything other than TSH and T4. Wow. Yeah.
00:09:08
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swapping doctors every month to finally get some extra work. That's essentially what I had to do, which when I was stuck at the HMO, you only have the choice of people that are in your network, unless you want to pay cash. And I did start to pay cash, which in the US, our cash rates are really, really high. So I ended up paying like $400 for a 15 minute phone call and things like that.
00:09:37
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And so it was really a lot, but I felt it was key to my recovery that I'd be shopping for a doctor that would look at free T3. And that's what got me into sort of rape heat and pro metabolic is because I was doing research to kind of figure out why
00:09:56
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This medication was just not helping me feel better. I didn't feel really any different and you could see that my free T3 wasn't moving. So then I looked into, I found out about repeat and then the rest was history. I've sort of been a Peter ever since. So when, what timeline are we talking here? What year? This, so I was diagnosed in early 2021. So I was 41.
00:10:24
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So, and I personally think I probably had it for quite a long time and just didn't know, um, because, you know, when you're pregnant, they look at TSH. And so I was always told it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I mean, that was, you know, 20 years ago, but, and then there were several times throughout the years that they were looking at my TSH cause I was telling them something's wrong with my metabolism, but that's all they looked at.
00:10:49
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And it was, it was always fine. Like I found some historical results and it was always fine. And that's the problem with the medical model to begin with because, um, TSH really doesn't start rising until you've had problems for many years. Yeah. So by the time you reach a level where they pay attention, it's like,
00:11:11
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It's kind of, I don't want to say it's too late because it's never too late, but it's like they could have paid attention earlier and you would have an easier time resolving a lot of the health issues. Yeah. I mean, this is what I tell my clients. It's like, if you just trust like blood work and everything, you think everything is fine and the blood, the blood that's buffered to very tight ranges at the expense of the tissues.
00:11:36
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And the body will do that for decades and decades until it can no longer do that. So this is another thing that pisses me off even with certain quote unquote functional docs that they're like, you have to just assess symptoms. All this lab testing is, you know, just
00:11:54
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extra costs for no reason. And it's really not because if you only treat as a functional doctor, if you only treat a patient symptoms until they go away, you're still doing allopathic. You're not actually investigating root causes. So it's better to invest a few hundred bucks, get some actual lab work that will give you contributors to the issue. It might not be all of them,
00:12:19
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But at least we can look at the gut. We can look at organic acids, a bunch of other stuff. And then you can actually have some answers, not kind of guessing. Maybe if I stop eating carbs, things would improve or something like that. And I actually,
Liver Health and Its Impact on Metabolism
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as you know, I think we're on board with this. Like actually stopping carbs, which is what doctors will tell you to do to lose weight, is one of the worst things you can do with thyroid because your thyroid
00:12:46
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you know, carbs are needed to convert T4 to T3. So if you remove the carbs, it makes the problem worse. You might lose weight, but you're at the expense of your metabolism, right? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, but you had some other health stuff going on with that. That was before, right?
00:13:07
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So the Hashimoto's was the first sort of sword to fall, right? And then so I started looking into my liver because I discovered in my research that a lot of conversion from T4 storage hormone to active bioavailable T3 happens in the liver. And some of it does also happen in the thyroid itself, which makes it even more stupid that doctors won't give T3.
00:13:36
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medication to Hashi's patients generally, because if the thyroid is sort of being attacked and destroyed over time, not only do you lose direct T3 that your thyroid would be producing, but you also lose the amount that your thyroid would be converting because it's not converting as well either. But in any case, so I started looking into my liver and I was like, I know I have a liver problem, like, because somehow this conversion that should be happening with T4 increases isn't happening.
00:14:04
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And I just couldn't tell what it was. And, you know, I was looking at liver enzymes and I was paying cash for all these different labs because you can't just go to a doctor in the US and just be like, I just know I have an issue. Like, you know, so put you on to the present hypochondriac.
00:14:21
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Yeah, exactly. And so what they did was skipping ahead for some scanning I did because it turned out I had a really rare form of cancer, a tumor in my lung. They found that in that process before they had even diagnosed me with that tumor,
00:14:43
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I, they found that I did have mild fatty liver. Right. And so then I was like researching like a mad woman, like, how do I resolve this? And that's how I found that the liver flush and started doing those. And it is not so far. I've done three. Okay. Yeah.
00:15:03
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And you say, so you've gone for a scan for the liver and it's resolved? Yeah, it completely resolved. Already, that's amazing. Yeah, so they found the mild fatty liver, I want to say in like January, it showed up in a CT scan. And then later in January,
00:15:23
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Later, I think actually early February, I had a PET scan and it also showed up then too. So that's when they gave me the diagnosis and they sent me for my liver enzymes, which I was like, guys, I've already been looking at my liver enzymes, but whatever. And so they pulled it again and the liver enzymes were at the very top of the normal range, but they were still in the normal range. So they thought that was fine.
00:15:48
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Thyroid patient circles will tell you that optimal is like the teens are below, right? So that's what they are now. But I did a lot of work to sort of repair my liver. And then so six months after those scans, I did a liver ultrasound, which is the gold standard for liver imaging. And it wasn't, I don't have fatty liver anymore. So I did resolve it. So do you plan on doing more liver flushes?
00:16:17
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I do, yeah. It's hard to get in the mood because sometimes the biggest part of it for me is just all the emptying out before and after. It's a thing. It's definitely not a comfortable 14 hours or so.
00:16:35
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, a lot of my liver recovery has been to like getting, um, getting my glycogen level to where my liver can store glycogen again. Um, I think a lot of people who come to heating have that problem over time. If you want to speak to that and explain that to your listeners, I have a hard time explaining that.
00:17:03
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like glycogen and its role in like keeping. Oh, yeah. I've, I've, I've talked quite a lot about, uh, on the podcast about what happens when you don't eat and like, how do you survive overnight? So, you know, you're, this is why I recommend, especially women, because they're so, so sensitive to these hormonal disturbances caused by stress hormones.
00:17:30
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to eat carbs with dinner and we do the in my book I talk about having you know two three tablespoons of honey near bedtime and what that does is it tops up the liver glycogen because that liver glycogen the liver will break it down and secrete glucose it will drip feed glucose into the
00:17:49
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bloodstream in order to keep your brain alive and basically keep normal functioning working. So the more, I suppose, more congested and dysfunctional your liver is, the less efficient it is at, you know, storing and secreting glycogen. What I've noticed, because I just did my, I've lost count how many flushes I've done, but maybe 25, maybe even more at this point. Yeah. I just did one two days ago. Yeah.
00:18:17
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And I noticed these last two that I did, that now when I wake up in the morning, I don't feel the blood sugar drop until late, a lot later. I normally have like carbs in the morning anyway, but just as an experiment, I noticed that by 11 a.m., I still don't feel this, you know how you feel that sort of the blood sugar drops and you can feel yourself kicking into the stress hormone response. You know that, right? Yeah.
00:18:47
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The more of these you do, the more you, I suppose, decongest, because when you have these stones in the bile ducts, obviously bile isn't flowing, but what that means is that because bile, so in phase two detoxification, the toxin is made water soluble, and then it's pushed into the bile, and then the bile travels down the ducts, and the intention is to poop it out. So if it gets stuck, if the liver is congested, that those toxins
00:19:15
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They can, you know, they're quote-unquote inactivated, but sometimes, you know, they can still do damage, right? So there's so many benefits to just continuing to do like literally like a dozen or two for anybody that you can think of, right? Anybody over 30. Yeah.
00:19:33
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So yeah, but I'm glad you... Here's the thing, I don't know if we spoke about this when we talked last time, but what I've started doing and I've been telling some clients, especially women that are feeling weaker, it seems like you can have juice
00:19:49
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or honey in between the Epsom salts, just like an hour before the actual flush or before the actual olive oil drink. So I've been experimenting more with that as well, like having a little bit of honey and juice in between. And it seems to actually work a treat and it doesn't affect the flush itself. So maybe that will help you also kind of reduce getting into that stress response when you're not eating for, let's say, 10, 12 hours. Right.
Weight Loss Journey and Strategies
00:20:16
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Right. That makes sense. Yeah.
00:20:20
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Yeah. So, I mean, I did liver flushes. I did supplement with Trudka, which I guess is derived from ox bile. I can't stomach eating liver. I know liver is a staple for pro-medicine. I cannot stomach it. So, I took a desiccated beef liver capsules.
00:20:43
Speaker
And then I, you know, this past year, I had significant weight loss of like 71 pounds. So who knows if what I did, you know, who knows exactly what it was. But I think it all went into the picture of resolving my fatty liver, which, you know, fatty liver is not the mild condition that doctors like to have you believe. It's the first step in my mind towards a whole metabolic disease. So a lot of people will call it diabetes in the liver.
00:21:13
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I call it pre-pre-diabetes, right? So I definitely wanted to get rid of that, knock that one out. Yeah, but I think the standard ways of like what a doctor would tell a person is now I've heard clients being told by their doctors to do intermittent fasting for weight loss and stuff like that. Like you said already, low carbs diet. It's great for your stress hormones.
00:21:42
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's anxiety. You lose weight because your stress hormones skyrocket and you will lose weight until you destroy your metabolism to the point where it stops working. And that's what happens to a lot of women in their forties like myself, is that the old methods of just sort of like eating less and just don't work
00:22:06
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anymore. I mean, I was intermittent fasting in the beginning. I tried fentermine, which is prescription basically speed. So you don't eat because you're not hungry on speed. Is it a similar effect to speed? I mean, I'm not assuming you've tried speed, but do you feel good on it at least?
00:22:31
Speaker
You feel a little good, but and then you just you stop eating because you're not hungry. But here's the thing when at the point at which I was doing that was in my early 40s. And that actually was right before I got diagnosed with Hashimoto's right right before I found out like I lost. And you can see this in this in the clinical trials for the drug. Women lose about somewhere between five and 10 percent of their body weight, which in my case at that time was
00:23:00
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I think I lost 15 pounds, but then the weight loss abruptly stops because your metabolism shuts down so much that it just says,
00:23:13
Speaker
Sorry, it went offline for a second there. Your metabolism just says, I'm starving and I'm going to conserve every single thing that I have. So the weight loss abruptly stops and it's not just me that this happens to you. This is actually in their clinical trials and in the studies of it. And then what happens is as soon as you go off the medication, cause you, you know, taking speed for the rest of your life isn't a strategy.
00:23:39
Speaker
You gained it all back. So that's what happened to me is like, number one, the weight loss was pretty minimal. I think, you know, 15 pounds at the weight I was at at the time is just not that significant. I was still overweight. And then you gain it immediately. As soon as you go off of it, like within a month, you're just back to where you were at. So it's like. So for the listeners, how did you, so in what time period did you lose the 71 pounds now?
00:24:09
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Basically, I started dieting late March of 2023. And then I want to say it was just over a year. It was the end of April where I had lost the 71 pounds eventually. And what did you find worked best for that?
00:24:36
Speaker
Well, I did a lot of intervention things. Number one, thyroid getting thyroid optimized was key. So I changed up my thyroid medication. I don't think that thyroid is the whole reason why I lost the weight. But what what thyroid did that was really helpful is that it stopped any a lot of rebound regain that I would have if I hadn't been on optimized thyroid.
00:25:01
Speaker
So that's a problem with dieting, right? It's all well and good when you're making progress and it's fun, you can see the scale moving. But if you go off the diet and you gain a bunch of weight back, a lot of people just give up, right? And so thyroid did help with that. So I did that and then the
00:25:20
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simultaneously, I did the most unpeedy thing that you can imagine, just to get started, which is it's referred to as protein sparing modified fasting diet. And I did it under medical supervision. So I joined a medical weight loss program. And
00:25:39
Speaker
basically you drink protein packet meal replacement. So you, there's no, yeah, it's just protein. There's very little fat and there's very little, um,
00:25:52
Speaker
carbs. And because their packets, their meal replacement, there's no wiggle room for like, you know, not realizing that you're eating more than you think you are. So my average calories was like 800 a day. And I was being monitored to make sure like I would have to, you know, drink fasting salts and things like that, because you lose electrolytes because your insulin drops so low.
00:26:17
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that you need to replace those salts. So I was doing all those kinds of things and I only did it for like three months, but I lost- The entire time you were on that, yeah?
00:26:28
Speaker
for three months, for three months. So I only did it for three months and I knew I was just going to like wreck my thyroid. But my hope was that, um, and it did turn out to be the case that the medication would just, you know, basically keep my, keep my thyroid working until I could reverse diet my way out of it and do something else go back to pro metabolic. And I did lose between the month where I was on my own and the three months, uh, where I did that.
00:26:55
Speaker
I lost, I want to say 50 pounds, close to 50 pounds. Amazing. Yeah. So that really got me started. But then at that point I was within what they call a normal weight range. So number one, I didn't want to stay in that program. And number two, I couldn't stay because you have to be overweight to be in the program. Were you at the facility the entire time?
00:27:22
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No, it was done remotely. It was a virtual. So the facility is actually at another location in California, but you actually never have to go in or do anything. You record, they send you a weight scale that supposedly looks at like your BMI, your visceral fat, you know, and all these other things besides just weight and it hooks up to their app. So they, anytime you step on the scale, they get all the data and then
00:27:50
Speaker
You take your blood pressure, you know, at least once a week, and then they pull labs that you go and do at a lab place. So the labs they were looking at were like, you know, fasting lipid panel and liver enzymes. And for a while on that diet, to be honest, my liver enzymes are crazy high, like 80, you know, and I was really scared. Actually, I was like, Oh, what did I do? You know,
00:28:16
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but the nurse was like, no, you know, sometimes that just happens at first. Let's stay the course. And so like a month later they pulled them and they were back within normal. So I'm not going to say that diet was healthy. It's definitely not, but it did get me started. I mean, part of the problem when you become obese is that your fat cells themselves are dysfunctional. So that part of your metabolism is just completely broken. And in my opinion, you just need to like claw your way back to a lean weight, you know,
00:28:45
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's hard. Sometimes extreme measures have to be taken when it comes to our health. Right. And for like a year I had done peat eating, although I will say I didn't do the low-fab version of peat.
00:29:03
Speaker
So I wasn't really watching fat. I was just watching that it wasn't polyunsaturated fat. And that, that PD eating made me gain a lot of weight. So at that point, PD eating was not an interventional diet for me. I needed to do something else to get to a lean weight. And then of course now at the point that I'm at where my metabolism, I would say is mostly repaired. PD eating is just what makes me feel the best in life. And I don't gain weight on it.
00:29:32
Speaker
So how did you reverse diet out of the three months intervention? So if you start replacing your meal replacement packets with actual food, which is great, and you start by adding 100 calories to what your average was. So in my case, my average was 800 calories a day.
00:29:57
Speaker
you could go anywhere from 600 to 1000, but you stop being hungry because it puts you into ketosis. So you're just not hungry. So you were in ketosis much of the time, yeah?
00:30:08
Speaker
I was in ketosis the
Rethinking Mainstream Diet Advice
00:30:09
Speaker
whole time. It's a ketosis diet. And so because of that, even though I had an allotment of a thousand calories a day, like I found that I was like full at 800, which sounds preposterous. Like now that I think about it, because I think at this point I'm eating like at least 2,000, 2,500 calories a day, but because I fixed my metabolism so much, I don't gain weight. I don't lose it either, but I don't gain it. That's the best place to be.
00:30:37
Speaker
It is amazing. If you're losing weight, generally that's an indicator of some kind of stress on the body. So you don't just want to willy-nilly lose weight. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we've talked about this before and maybe you can speak to it a little bit more, but like that is really like the second best thing that your body can do to being healthy. It's a protective mechanism when something is just way off.
00:31:03
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's actually something I was going to ask you because you kind of glossed over the rare form of cancer tumor in the lung. So, but for, from what I understand, at least just as an example, have some clients that have been on birth control.
00:31:24
Speaker
drugs. I'm just trying to calculate one of them. It was close to four decades, right? Oh my God. That's like almost her entire reproductive life, if not... Not almost. The entire. And I think if I recall correctly, it started over acne. The depravity of these people is just unbelievable, right?
00:31:54
Speaker
Yeah. I'm shaking my head, but it's like because they give it for everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They don't bother to look at your hormones beforehand. They just go, Oh, well you have acne like here.
00:32:07
Speaker
Well, you know, this is how I got into health. One of the several reasons was when I met my wife that first year, she had a, she was a professional ballet dancer, ballerina. And her, basically her health was pretty ruined from all the dieting and the stress of the training, like all day long, six days a week. And she was sick, like, I don't remember how many times in that first year we were together.
00:32:33
Speaker
But they put her on antibiotics four whole times and then what happens is you get candida stuff Overgrowing and then they put her on birth control Why are they putting women?
00:32:48
Speaker
on freaking birth control for Candida, right? So that's one of the reasons I started digging in to health and whatever else, but it's just crime against humanity is probably the closest term to use. But yeah, so what I was telling my client
00:33:07
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with that example I gave is I told her, look, we really have to reframe the conversation. Instead of being sort of frustrated and pissed off with all this stubborn weight, quote unquote, you have to really think about estrogen is a carcinogen, literally, like it literally drives cancer.
00:33:31
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It's nitrogenic, its job is to cause cell division, and it does so in a very disorganized way. So it's great when you're growing a baby, right? Yeah, but when you're growing a baby, you need progesterone for the differentiating sort of balance. You balance growth, differentiation.
00:33:54
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Yeah. And here's the thing. I did that episode on estrogen that I shared with you a while ago. And you're producing as a woman. What is it like?
00:34:06
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50, up to 50 micrograms of it. Is it picograms? Yeah, it's picograms. It's like even smaller than like nanograms, you know, much smaller. I can't, I don't know off the top of my head. I thought it's micrograms, but anyway, like just to put it in perspective, you're producing milligrams of progesterone, like then 2030. So how little of it you need is
00:34:33
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incomprehensible, I think for us. Yeah. And, um, yeah, so, so to, because it's, it can stimulate the growth of tissue, including fatty tissue, just growing your fat stores is a fairly, you, you, you're somewhat unscathed in the grand scheme of things. When you consider that it could have grown cancer, like that, that's kind of, I think the simplest way of putting it right.
00:35:00
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Right, right. Exactly. It's it's the second best thing to just being healthy. It's, it's completely protective. And I think like, you know, especially women, like we can be so hard on ourselves and be like, well, how you know,
00:35:15
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And if you listen to mainstream medical advice, I mean, they would have all 40 something women believe. Oh, well, if you just eat like a thousand calories or less a day, you know, you can like maintain your weight. But number one, no, that's not true because at a certain point.
00:35:33
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on the protein sparing modified fasting diet, I was still drinking 800 calories a day and I abruptly stopped losing weight at around 157 pounds. According to their laws of thermodynamics, I should have just been wasting away until I was nothing.
00:35:56
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Number two, it's it's cruel to tell tell women who are struggling that like, you know, oh, you just need to starve yourself and it's just some issue that you have with willpower and being lazy. Yeah, it's just not true.
00:36:11
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It's always your fault at the end of the day, right? That's how they paint the picture. It couldn't be the deteriorated food supply, the environmental toxins, the air pollution, all of these things that are contributing to ill health, ill metabolic health, or poor metabolic function. The effects of that is then weight gain. Because the other thing people forget is that fatty tissue
00:36:38
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It stores a lot of these persistent organic pollutants, POPs. So these are lipophilic, very difficult for the body to make water soluble chemicals.
00:36:53
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And a lot of them are like remnants of the, you know, thirties to the seventies era of organochlorine pesticides and so on and so forth. So a lot of these things are sequestered in our tissues. So fatty tissue, if you just start losing weight very quickly, you run the risk of these things being released. So you have a plan for
00:37:16
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That was a serious concern that I had with how fast I lost the weight because, and it becomes more of an issue if someone has like hundreds of pounds to lose, right? You see, every so often you see somebody that, you know, like they take up jogging and they eat no carbs and they lose hundreds of pounds in like a year and then they just drop dead. And in my opinion, it's like toxins being released too quickly into the bloodstream. And I also think it's polyunsaturated fatty acids as well.
00:37:45
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And so because remember all of our cells are stuffed full of them unless you know We're like you where you've really been watching it and you've got you yourself have really low linoleic acid I know for a fact But most people on a Western diet our cells are just like we are basically like
00:38:06
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seeds or not. Yeah, it's insane. I've been doing the fatty acid analysis and more clients and I am
00:38:16
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Basically, my client range is roughly 35 to 39 something, right? That's my client range for the most part. I've had a few people in the 20s. When you say 35 to 39, you mean all Omega-6s? Omega-6s, yeah. Okay. Omega-6s, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mine is still 28.
00:38:39
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That's pretty good. Actually, let's give the listener, I meant to do a video on this at some point. The fatty acid analysis is a hundred dollars. It's a hundred dollar test or a hundred euro if you're in Europe.
00:38:55
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And it's a dried blood spot test. You prick your finger, drop a few spots of blood, a courier picks it up, and then we can check your omega-3s, omega-6s, saturated fats, and your saturated fatty acids, and a couple of other things, right?
00:39:14
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And basically, the main thing we're really looking at with this test is the Omega-6. How high of a percentage are Omega-6s in your blood? And what Adina was saying is mine is very low. I did this test last year, and my Omega-6s were like 10%, 10%, 11%. And I was saying that a lot of my clients with
00:39:44
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health issues, they're coming in right around 39%. And then the reason I like this test is it's cheap, and you can quickly give data to a person that is a little bit incredulous, but not since everyone says they're so good, epidemiology, diddly doodly, as one guy says.
00:40:06
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epidemiology,
Impact of Dietary Fats on Health
00:40:07
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my logical studies say that, you know, not increased, not consumption is increased with better health outcomes and stuff like that. But when you see that, the person starts to really listen to you and like, okay, I will start reducing nuts and seeds and grains and beans. And there's many reasons why we want to do that. But so what was your first the first time you did that test? What was your Omega-6 is that?
00:40:35
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So I'm actually not sure. It was probably a little bit low. I think it was actually a little bit lower. It was 26%. But the one that I really personally pay a lot of attention to is linoleic acid because that can only be gotten through diet humans. So that's why doctors will call it an essential acid.
00:40:58
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because essential just means that humans can't make that themselves. So we have to get it from diet. It's clearly not essential in the sense of the word that we're used to using that word. But so the one I really pay attention to is linoleic acid because
00:41:16
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arachidonic acid is one that the human body will make in response to inflammation and lipolysis and for other reasons as well. So I do look at that one, but that one's not so much driven by diet. It's a response to other things driven by diet. But anyway, so my linoleic acid, the first time was like 13
00:41:42
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So a more typical one that I'll see a lot of the time is like 21%, 18%. So mine, you can tell, you know, I've been working very hard at like reducing that, but I still got a way to go. And the half life of linoleic acid is like two years. So it takes two years to reduce by half.
00:42:02
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And then another two years you're reduced by half again. And so actually rape heat would say that it takes about four years to deplete. But what we're finding is it's actually, it can, in a lot of cases, it can be like six years. So seven even.
00:42:18
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six to seven is what they say. You can do things. I mean, you know, a lot of us, we're just kind of learning as we go. So I, we actually, it actually looks like if you lose excessive weight, um, which again, you have to be careful because that can be very dangerous and even deadly to lose excessive weight. Uh, as we just mentioned, but losing weight itself seems to deplete proof of faster because it gets released from your tissues into your bloodstream and then, you know, basically eliminated.
00:42:49
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So for those people who linoleic acid doesn't have the effect of causing weight gain, because there are people that they remain lean with all of this linoleic acid in our diet from seed oils and nuts and things like that.
00:43:05
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So the lean people, they have a harder time depleting as quickly as the obese people do or overweight people do. And so those lean people, they'll have more symptoms. I don't know if you're experiencing this in your practice, but the people that are lean, I mean, maybe they don't come in to see you, right? Because people get pushed to do something when they see that they're not able to lose weight.
00:43:26
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But if you do encounter them, they'll get symptoms more like inflammation, depression, headaches, you know, chronic things, but they won't. So in their sense, it's tending more towards the inflammation side of things rather than the weight gain side of things. Yeah, it's a very, very good point, actually. And it reminds me of one client, very lean client. She was right about right on the edge of 30
00:43:55
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Sorry, you went out there for a second. Yeah, that's why I paused. She was right at the edge of 39, 40%, the Omega-6s. And I think it was 26, Linda Lake, I can't remember now. 26 is pretty high.
00:44:12
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Yeah, and a lot of eczema and stuff like that for more than a decade. Of course, the Willow Bark Extract, I recommend that will reduce a lot of that inflammation.
00:44:28
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And the thing is there's always a gut issue. When there's like a skin issue, there's always a gut issue, right? It's never going to be just, you know, the immune system inflammation is coming from a lot of places. Usually a lot of people, they're eating things, you know, starches and fibers and nuts and things.
00:44:51
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that are increasing endotoxin. Certain gut inflammatory or dysbiotic bacteria are overgrowing. For example, Staph aureus, Staphylococcus aureus, that's a very common one in eczema for one. And then a lot of
00:45:14
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Damn, we're cutting out a lot. And then a lot of stress as well, which we know like stress increases leaky gut or intestinal permeability. So it's always, this is why I tell people, you know, to solve one issue, you have to really address the whole body. You can't just, that's why I'm kind of like, I don't really do like single sessions anymore and stuff like that. Because I want to give a person a whole solution that will address gut stress, hormones, sleep,
00:45:43
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diet,
Coping with Lung Cancer: Surgery and Recovery
00:45:45
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all that good stuff, systematically and comprehensively. And I think you've seen yourself, you started with one thing and now it's diet, it's supplementation, it's high eat, stress. You know that you have to address a ton of different things in order to be truly healthy.
00:46:04
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Yeah, absolutely. You can't just look at like a few things in isolation, you can start there. But you know, it's kind of like when you run across people that say like, Oh, just take a super physiological dose of like, copper, for example, you can't really
00:46:22
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You can't really do that because it affects so many different things downstream and you have to kind of look at it as like, you know, you're the maestro of an orchestra, the orchestra of your body, you know? That's very well put, you know, it's a great sort of metaphor and it's true. And this is what I was talking to some ladies with insomnia and when I kind of
00:46:51
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explain the drivers of like not being able to sleep, it starts to make a lot more sense, right? You think, you think, oh no, I take a valerian and everything is going to be fine. Or you take a sleeping pill, it's going to be fine. No, you're just treating a symptom. But I think my listeners probably, I've said this a lot of the stuff ad nauseam. Let's just, I just want to go back to the, just tell us a little bit more about the cancer stuff because
00:47:21
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So I found the tumor as well. So I didn't have any symptoms, right?
00:47:32
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But this was back when I was still kind of being treated according to the poor standard of care on thyroid. And I just was like so frustrated. I was only on T4 medication. I just wasn't getting any better. And I thought, I'm just going to cold turkey everything. And you know, like, and I'm just going to, you know, I give up on this at this point. Well, I ended up with such severe vertigo, which they never did find out what the cause of my vertigo was. But I think it was just,
00:48:02
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I did some research after a few days with very severe vertigo and there are case reports of thyroid hormone going so low that it causes inner ear inflammation because then I took some T3 and I resolved that. But anyway, the severe vertigo brought me into
00:48:20
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the severe vertigo brought me into ER and they did every, they did a ton of different tests. My EKG was great, you know, all this stuff was great, but they did a chest x-ray to rule out pneumonia. And that's when they saw that I had a two centimeter nodule in my lung.
00:48:40
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And so for four months, my HMO doctors were investigating that to their credit. They didn't drop the ball, but it took quite a long time because it really didn't look like a normal cancer because it wasn't. It was a very rare one out of a hundred thousand lucky me cancer. And it was only definitively diagnosed via a biopsy. And so I had surgery to remove that.
00:49:06
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And I'm considered most likely cured as the phrase they use because at the phase they found it, you know, the stage they found it was, you know, stage 1a and it tends to be a very slow growing, not aggressive, not really good at spreading type of cancer.
00:49:24
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So surgery. How did you take the sort of the discovery of this and what was the process? How did you feel this time? Were you super stressed? Well, I think I was somewhat stressed.
00:49:44
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during the, because it's a stressful process. And at every test, they were like, well, we're not really sure. We really don't know. And so for four months, I was walking around in limbo, like, you know, not knowing whether I had cancer or not. And so that was extremely, you know, stressful. And then I also happened to know that lung cancer in general, not the type that I had, but lung cancer in general,
00:50:06
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is the deadliest cancer because one of the problems with it is that a lot of people don't have any symptoms until they are already at stage four. So because the body compensates, the body is amazing at doing that. And so like even at one point they did a pulmonary function test on me because that's something that if you end up
00:50:30
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Sorry, I guess we cut out. So they did a pulmonary function test where they test your breathing basically. And what they found is that even with basically a one-inch sized tumor in my lung, I still had 97% of the lung function of what they'd expect from someone in my demographic at my age.
00:50:48
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And so the rest of my lung was compensating and I, you know, I hadn't been sick in six years. I hadn't like even had a cold or anything. I never had a cough and I wasn't a smoker. I've never, they call me a never smoker. So I didn't have any reason to have a chest x-ray. As a matter of fact, I think that chest x-ray is the first one I ever had in my life. Wow. Certainly the first one I can remember. So at least since childhood, but
00:51:17
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But yeah, so that was crazy and its surgery is curative for the type I had at the stage I had it. And so I'm considered most likely cured. But the flip side of a slow growing cancer is you're not really considered in the clear for a very long time. I know some people who
00:51:37
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had it when they were 13 years old and then 29 years later, it came back and it was everywhere. So, I mean, cancer is a bunch of sort of failures in the body that you
00:51:56
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you really can't neglect. And while there's nothing that we can guarantee is going to prevent a recurrence, I think just in general, all the other things to take care of your body can definitely help. So how long did you sort of take to recover after the operation?
00:52:17
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So the operation I had was minimally invasive. So it's essentially it's called a robotic assisted thoracopic surgery, which is basically a laparoscopic surgery. So
00:52:31
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It, you know, I think like you wake up from surgery and there's a place in your chest that you're used to breathing to that's not there anymore. So it's like an abrupt stop on that side. But over time, your remaining lobes expand and fill that space. So they kind of,
The Role of Aspirin in Health
00:52:51
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even though your lung doesn't grow back,
00:52:53
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they compensate and so i would say probably like my breathing within like a month or two was like i don't even notice any difference in breathing and they took a third out you said right
00:53:08
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They took, yeah, they took my right lower lobe. So your right, your right lung has three lobes. And so yeah, they took a third of my right lung. But even people I know where like, there's an 11 year old kid I know of where they had to take his middle and his right lower lobe. So he got basically two thirds of his right lung removed within three months because he's a kid, his remaining lobe had filled that entire space.
00:53:35
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That's how incredible the human body is, right? Yeah, exactly. It totally reminded me of some podcast I saw with Georgie Dinkoff where he talked about how you can regrow limbs like a salamander under the right condition. I think he said if you
00:53:55
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cover it sufficiently, so carbon dioxide builds. Yeah, it was carbon dioxide. Yeah, I think maybe because in the lung it's sealed, I have no idea, it can just do that more easily than like a wound or something, but that's absolutely mind-blowing. So as we wrap up, let's
00:54:15
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I want you to, I want this to come from a woman. Let's tell, tell the, there's a lot of women listening to my podcast. Tell the ladies listening, give them some health tips that are either counterintuitive counter to mainstream dogma, bullshit, any, any, anything you want to, we started, we got the carb thing a little bit. Yeah.
00:54:42
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Yeah, I would say, I mean, like, if you're new to pro-metabolic, a good rule of thumb is, you know, you want four parts carb to two parts protein to one part fat. So fat should really just be looked at as a compliment.
00:55:01
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because what you're really trying to do is retrain your body to learn how to utilize glucose. And in the beginning, fat gets in the way of that. You lose that flexibility of being able to burn fat and burn sugar. So you need to remove the fat
00:55:19
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So that your body has no choice but to deal with the sugar if you remove the sugar All you're doing is throwing a band-aid on a problem over time that makes the problem worse. So that's that's my take on that another thing to watch for is Just a variety of amino acids, which we haven't really talked about but I think like a lot of amino acids that we get from our proteins in like a standard Western diet are
00:55:47
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you know, sort of the excitatory ones and the anti thyroid ones. So you want to watch for lots of glycine. And so that means like collagen and bone broth and things like that to fill out your protein. Um, you just want a nice mix there. Um, I would consider that very key, especially if you're taking aspirin, you know, you want to replenish that glycine. What does aspirin do to glycine?
00:56:17
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It depletes glycine. Really? Yeah. So, which I mean, aspirin in general, pure aspirin. So a lot of the anti aspirin diatribe out there has to do with obviously the additives and the coatings. So you want a pure brand or, or in your case, like I know you mentioned willow bark, so salicylic acid.
00:56:39
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But it's obviously extremely beneficial from a pro metabolic standpoint. It helps with lipolysis. It helps with estrogen clearance and all kinds of things that are positive. But one thing it does do is deplete glycine. So if you're on aspirin like I am. How much do you take? I actually take quite a large amount. And I take it with vitamin K as well. So I take a gram.
00:57:10
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Yeah, some days, I haven't spoken about this yet much on the show because in my next book, I'm going to have a chapter all on aspirin and willow bark extract and whatever else. But some days I take two grams. Yeah. No problem. And I've heard people say they take up to eight grams and I've heard some repeaters
00:57:31
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say that actually the larger doses don't have some of the problems that the smaller doses do have, like with the stickiness of the platelets. But I'm too afraid to go to like eight grams. I think that sounds insane.
00:57:48
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Yeah. See, last year I bought half a kilogram of pure salicylic acid, no aceto group, which apparently that's equivalent to something like 800 or so grams of aspirin if you're using aceto salicylic acid.
00:58:08
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The problem is it's not very water soluble and it's sour. So my trick is to take a bit of jam or honey, runny honey and mix it in there. And that is a really good way to get it in. But I noticed even in the winter, if you take a lot of aspirin, like I start sweating. It raises the metabolism itself. It does. And even some mainstream
00:58:35
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sources are saying now about how anti-cancer aspirin is for specific types of cancer. So there's a syndrome called Lynch syndrome, which makes you much more likely to get colon cancer, which is a huge issue in the US, probably having to do with our horrendous diet and just being overloaded with polyunsaturated fatty acid everywhere. I mean, all of our food takes a bath in it here.
00:59:01
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But they're finding that aspirin actually prevents the tumors from Lynch syndrome from recurrence. It has a strong effect. So you can search for videos about that. I mean, even mainstream is saying that now. So while anti-cancer isn't like the primary reason why I'm doing aspirin, I actually did that more for like my estrogen load.
00:59:24
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It's an added benefit and I think it all ties together because as we mentioned earlier, estrogen is mitogenic and drives cancer of all types, including prostate in my opinion.
00:59:37
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Yeah. I mean, I've heard the stuff Georgie was talking about, uh, DHT being a treatment in various countries around the world for all kinds of prostate disease up to, um, prostate cancer. Yeah. So that's kind of, it's kind of strange how it would block testosterone, which in my opinion is the worst thing you can do.
01:00:03
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because it's like testosterone is such an awesome hormone to make people feel fantastic. And then you're just blocking that. And I mean, the evidence that prostate cancer is testosterone driven is very weak.
01:00:20
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Yeah, I mean, like they're just vilifying, they're vilifying all the things that are beneficial. Like we know, and this is what I try to explain to some people that are a little bit apprehensive because you hear aspirin, you're like, oh, that's a drug and drugs are bad. Okay. Far more bad. But remember what it's, where is the genesis or where's the origin
01:00:45
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of aspirin. It's from freakin nature. Willow bark. So there's a lot of things that we have synthetic versions of that are mimicking natural things. Progesterone is from Mexican wild yam. And yet,
Client Success Stories and Health Tips
01:01:01
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if you Google progesterone, and in the state of California, they have to put a warning on any bioidentical progesterone sold that it causes cancer. And it doesn't. What causes it is progestins.
01:01:14
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But it's not bioidentical progesterone, which comes from Mexican wild yam. So yeah, that's just to speak to your point. It's naturally derived and they demonize it somehow. Yeah, it's insane. You're almost better off doing the opposite of what you hear out in the mainstream. It won't always work, but I think it's probably a safer strategy long term than to actually follow. If you look at
01:01:42
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the food pyramid stuff. Even last night I was presenting this workshop and one of the ladies, I explained to them grains bad, seeds bad, polyunsaturated fats bad, the fiber fermented by the endotoxin producing bacteria, and maybe it was a little bit too technical,
01:02:05
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But in the end, they were asking the questions and they were like, so what do you recommend? So then I started listing, okay, if you can't eat meat, you know, I started saying, you know, eggs and cheese and dairy. If you like that, you can eat that. Just get your protein in there. Get your minimum hundred grams of protein. And one lady, she was like, yeah, but like cheese has the bad fat, you know? Saturated fat.
01:02:31
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No, no, that's been debunked for decades. That would be my number one tip for anybody listening. If you're looking for a place to get started, even before you start adding saturated fat in, which is the good fat, right? Just avoid polyunsaturated fatty acids. That's the number one thing. I mean, I cannot think of anything that's more important than that.
01:02:57
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is just start depleting yourself of polyunsaturated fatty acids. And so not only does that mean avoiding anything in vegetable oil, seed oil, but also you want to watch fatty cuts of meat for monogastric animals like pork because their tissues retain linoleic acid just like humans do. And what they found is that their tissues are 18 to 30% PUFA.
01:03:24
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So if you're eating fatty pork, that's not low, you know, where the pork is eating corn and soy, then you're going to end up, you might think that you're on a low poof, a diet, but you'll get all that poof from the pork. And then chicken eggs, like chicken eggs are great, but like try your best to have to get them from chickens where they're fed a very diet of insects, grubs, scraps, and not just corn and soy because their eggs will retain linoleic acid as well.
01:03:54
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Absolutely. We were doing that with my wife for ages. We were eating all organic and wild, caught and all that jazz. And we get these massive chicken wings here. They're huge, right? With so much skin. We're like, oh, yeah, look at all that collagen we're getting. Yeah.
01:04:12
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And I was like kind of making fun of my wife that when she makes the chicken wings, the fat all drips out and I have this slow cooking tactic where none of the fat drips out and it retains all the delicious fat. And then, you know, at one point I was like, oh, bollocks?
01:04:33
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Now we scoop the fat off like we make a chicken soup, we scoop the fat off. And that's another thing, right? We used to get this chorizo from Spain organic. It's heavenly.
01:04:47
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But then when you look at now, when I, when we go to Spain here and I look at the chorizos there, we're talking a hundred grams will be like 26% of that will be freaking polyunsaturated fats or somewhere, somewhere, you know, it's like, Oh, not good.
01:05:04
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Yeah, yes, a sausage, pork, chicken skin tends to retain poofa. So when you're really doing a depletion diet, we say to avoid the skin as well. But lean cuts of meat are always good. And then beef, they're not mono, you know, cows are not monogastric. So even grain fed beef is only like
01:05:25
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4% PUFA, right? Yeah. And then MUFA is another thing to watch for, which you'll see from your premiere Omega quant test. You want to look for a one to one steric to a leic acid ratio, but no one has that anymore. So you do. Our metabolisms are all dysfunctional because of years and years of, you know, toxins, basically. And
01:05:57
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I think mine is somewhere around two to one. So let me just bring up, see if I can find my test here. Oh, yours was really high. Peading eaters will have much higher desaturate. Do you remember what it was? It was, I remember one of the Redditors saying it was the highest one she'd ever seen, but that's just common of peaty eating.
01:06:22
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Yeah, I was doing a very weird diet at the time, but I'll tell you what, I did this maybe month of extremely low polyunsaturated fat intake and I would actually go to pee and the foam, the amount of foam in the toilet, it would stay. You know what, you can make it foamy. I know what you're talking about because I've had that too. Yeah.
01:06:50
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Yeah, but I see it. I'm like, that's that fatty acids being excreted. So happy about that. Yeah, no, it's it's it's definitely a good sign, I would say. And I know exactly what you're talking about because I've had it happen. Yeah, I have no way of knowing like what my linoleic acid would have been prior to like starting this because I didn't start I didn't find out about the omega quant test until like a couple of years into sort of watching it.
01:07:20
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Yeah. But again, most people that come in their linoleic acid is something like 18%, 20%. I mean, it is really bad. It's bad. And if you look at ancestral levels in adipose tissues, which doesn't correspond exactly to blood, but like, nobody's going to go get an adipose tissue for this. But ancestral levels and adipose tissues are like,
01:07:44
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you know, 4%. So we're all I mean, why is everyone sick now getting sick? Yeah, it's the only aspect of our food supply that I feel moves in lockstep with when everything just went to shit. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's not plausible to me that everybody after like the 19
01:08:06
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50s just basically was like, I'm not going to exercise anymore and I'm going to eat like a total. Maybe there's a small percentage of people where that is true, but the vast majority of it, it can't be everybody in the world where these Western diets are. That's not possible.
01:08:25
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And I was in Mexico for the first time ever. I was in North America in February for a conference. And when I saw what's in the stores and the airports there, I can see why North Americans are in such a bad way because like I couldn't even find just juice, 100% juice anywhere, anywhere. Yeah. One place. And the one that was fruit flavored water had freaking
01:08:52
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multiple colorants, sweeteners. And I'm like, Oh my God, these poor people that I went to the hotel room, everything was centered, including my, my toilet paper. I'm like, great, I'm gonna get butt cancer here. You know what I mean? So I really feel for Americans, but or North Americans in general, but like, talking to to even to Europeans here, I'll tell you
01:09:19
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They are just as clueless about the polyunsaturated fats. And that's why I do this kind of content to explain nuts and seeds should not be a daily staple. People are eating these things daily or with every meal.
01:09:38
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Yeah, in fact, we have a couple of Redditors who really vastly address their metabolic issues with these strategies and with PUFA depletion. And like some of them, it's like if they have, if they've been eating like
01:09:53
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a handful of nuts in like a brownie or something, even accounting for calories, it'll make weight creep happen over time. And so we've seen that happen as well. Of course, those differences aren't as drastic when you're still in the middle of it, like I am. And so, you know, it's a process.
01:10:13
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It's a process you have to... I think being healthy or getting healthy, it's like being in business. It's a marathon without a finish line. Yeah, it's a way of life for the rest of your life, right? And so that's what I like about prometabolic is that other than polyunsaturated fatty acid, it's honestly just a balanced way of living and eating.
01:10:36
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There's nothing that you really, really can't have except for polyunsaturated fatty acid, which after how great you feel when you don't have it, that's not a sacrifice. It's not a sacrifice, yeah. I think this is what I try to frame it to people, look at seeds and not as something your diet will lack.
01:10:56
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Don't even look what that shit is food. It's not food. It's if it's Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they were giving well, who are they giving? Grains and and and stuff like that to peasants prisoners slaves Caddo Me muscle me used to be like what only what poor people would have and wealthy people would have organ meat Like that was considered, you know, the wealthy
01:11:26
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You know you've made it in life if that's what you get and now everybody eats muscle meat and what it happens is it's anti thyroid It's also another piece that goes to destroying our metabolism And that's why you know the average human temperature is dropped by one degree in the last And they might be able to blame our weight gain on us being fat slobs But how are you gonna blame our temperature on that?
01:11:50
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Global warming sort of cancels it out. It's an adaptive mechanism to global warming or something. Yeah, it's insanity. This is it. I just tell people,
Conclusion and Wellness Responsibility
01:12:08
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look, all of my clients that have stopped or greatly reduced the grains and the nuts and the seeds and the beans and the legumes,
01:12:17
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invariably either get better a little bit significantly or it transforms their health. I had one lady 35 years, she had this herpes type rash on her skin. And she finally in the end listened to me about actually removing everything like the ancestral breads and grains and Ezekiel breads and whatever. All that fancy stuff. She removed that and it's gone. The rash is gone.
01:12:44
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35 years. Wow. 35 years. So amazing things can happen. Actually, the first time I did gluten-free and lectin-free and all that stuff and grain-free, I had a bunch of skin tags. They all disappeared. Oh, wow. And skin tags, even mainstream, we'll say is insulin resistance. It's one of the signs of insulin resistance. So the fact that you got rid of those
01:13:09
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Yeah. You said lectin. Wait, you said grains lectin. It was the Dr. Gundry, what's the plant paradox type diet, but I just removed all grains because he says millet is okay. I can't remember what else. There's a few lectin free according to him grains, but I just ate really clean for super clean for like a year. And within months, like they were just falling off, you know.
01:13:35
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That's awesome. I did get some of those working out training type boxing in a dirty gym. So I don't think it's all insulin resistance, but I have seen the literature about it being or some of the literature about it being insulin resistance related and actually have one neighbor here
01:13:54
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who clearly has dementia or maybe Alzheimer's even. I saw him close nearby a couple of weeks ago and he had a lot of the massive ones like moles and that kind of, like when they say Alzheimer's is diabetes of the brain, kind of makes a lot of sense now, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
01:14:20
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Well, Adina, thank you so much for your time. And like this, I knew this was, it's not like having a client. It's almost like having a practitioner, you know, the level of knowledge sharing is really awesome. I learned a few things, which I always do, you know, like I love working. I mean, any client will always teach me something in our relationship together, but this has been.
01:14:42
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very fruitful and I really appreciate your time sharing your insights and your journey and your intimate sort of health related stuff with our listeners. I really hope it helps them to sort of take a little bit, just remember that the responsibility falls on them and no one is going to come to save you, no doctor, no guru, nobody's going to come to save you.
01:15:07
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Yeah, absolutely. But the rewards are worth it. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Thank you so much, Adina. Thank you. Have a good one.