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Season 4- Episode 33- Good Players Need One Chance (Champions Cup Round of 16-2nd leg & Super Rugby Round 9)
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It is the latest from your favorite American rugby dopes. On this week's episode, we take another trip around Europe and highlight a few key moments. Some of them absolutely brilliant and some of them, lack of decision making ability might be a nice way to put it. Then we hop across the globe to cover the happenings in Super Rugby, also including a few moments of madness and a few moments of brilliance. All this and the usual babble you'd expect from us. Have yourself a drink with us and enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction and Weekend Rugby Highlights
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody, welcome back. It is the fancy rugby game. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Let's get into it. Yeah, you got more than enough rugby to talk about this weekend. Less than usual, we have had, which is nice. But yeah, but still plenty. Quite a bit. Yeah, because we didn't even have women's six nations. And yeah, so there we go. We're going to dive back into that this week, too. Yeah. First things first, I'm liking this.
00:00:38
Speaker
This was in my, quote unquote, Easter basket. A.K.A. My mom gave me a bottle of booze and some beers. Nice. Which is always great for booze. I am celebrating our national holiday. Well, international holiday. The international holiday that is. And it's not just because I'm out of beer.
00:00:59
Speaker
Well, it kind of is, but it's not just because it's not just because of that. But yeah, I'm if we play the 20 questions game, I bet you figure out who had your outsider. Yeah, probably won't even need five. No, it's really only two options. Right.
00:01:22
Speaker
by our friend George, the fancy rugby geek, a coffee busy boy again, back into the premise week. And also we, like I said, we, yeah, you know, the pram that thing. Um, and then obviously like I had mentioned before, we're diving back into women's six nations and he's been helpful for many of the, many of you out there for that. I promise you. Um, I've certainly gotten done diving into that blog or once when I'm scratching my head on that lineup, like, Hmm.
00:01:51
Speaker
What does George have to say? Yeah, give the geek coffee. Yeah, buy him a coffee. And as I said, we're diving back on the prem. So get your TRM upgrades. Always nice to know who's in, who's out, obviously, this past weekend. And even, you know, all the way back, still guys picking up injuries and carrying injuries. So keep that in mind. I had to, like, strain myself to be like, okay, does this person hurt? Is that person? Like, do I know?
00:02:20
Speaker
When, when we were doing the, the starts and sits for, for this coming week, it's, uh, yeah. So it'll be nice to know green, green, red, gray, all that stuff.
Cannabis Legalization and Policy Critique
00:02:32
Speaker
Um, as always black lives matter on this podcast, there is no room for racism in life or in sports. Um, as Ben mentioned the, the high holiday that it is, um, for 20 is today, but, um,
00:02:48
Speaker
You know, there's all kinds of messed up things about cannabis since it's become legalized in many states. And most of it for me that stands out is the people that are making the profits off of it are, you know, Johnny white boy. And the people that are in jail for it the most are, you know, give you three guesses, black people. So, you know, African-American and black men mostly. But yeah, it's like,
00:03:16
Speaker
And that's, that's the problem with the fact that it's legal in states, but federally illegal it means that it's hard for people for the banks can't give loans for it. So there's, there has to be a certain amount of existing capital or what have you, just to open the business and that's just to open a business let alone all the regulations and whatnot like it takes a serious investment to start this up.
00:03:40
Speaker
And if you can't get a federally backed loan, you're going to struggle with that. And so, yeah, the implementation of it, even, you know, even as well intentioned as it is at the state level, it still screws over minorities. So like I'm actually kind of annoyed. I thought Biden might be nice and give everybody a present. His poll numbers are
00:04:07
Speaker
tanked. Not good. Yeah. He's got to start doing something. And so yeah, but that's not saying much. No, it isn't. That's a low bar. So it's kind of hoping for maybe a 420 present, but that's not to be. So who knows what the hell is going to happen. But either way, there is actually a bill that passed the House. But of course, that doesn't really fucking mean anything because the Senate doesn't pass anything anyway.
00:04:32
Speaker
But I think they wanted to pass it today originally, and then they realized, oh, we're not going to pass it. So they just pumped it out to later this summer is when they're going to maybe vote on it. We'll see. Certainly hope so. Legalize it. There's nothing wrong with it. Do it. Do it. Also, grab our Patreon if you haven't noticed. We're getting back into busy times here with both Prime and Super Rugby and
00:05:01
Speaker
If I recall one of our, one of our last, uh, one of the last weeks in TRM, um, one of our guys in champions league was top near the top, if not the top, and did pretty well himself. And he also has the, uh, he also has that little analytics sheet that we like to pump out. So yes.
00:05:21
Speaker
Not saying that but but I will talk that again at the moment just because you know we're getting towards the end of the premises and there's only a couple weeks left in you know before we go to.
00:05:34
Speaker
to the knockout stages. And the key to winning in TRM anyway, and to finish, is to have a high value team. Because the better investments you make during the year, the more money you're going to have at your disposal at the end, because your salary cap grows as your value grows.
00:06:01
Speaker
So now is the key to take finding maybe some of those lower price guys who might get to another 20, 30k by the end of the year. Because that might be more important than having some of the higher value guys who won't be around and aren't going to gain any value of anything they might lose value. Yeah, certainly. That's true. I'll show you. So start targeting, obviously, the teams that are in the top three and then
00:06:24
Speaker
start looking for teams that might make that four spot, at least at the very least. Sorry, having a look at that. Start catching guys that are meh. But just all that to say, our Patreon will help you with these tough end of year decisions. Yep, absolutely. No doubt. Okay. Let's dive into it.
Champions Cup Round of 16 Analysis
00:06:47
Speaker
Second leg of the round of 16 for Champions Cup. Some of this was kind of formality and some not so much. But this was such a cool, the whole thing was excellent, even in games where you didn't really care. It was still interesting, like not even not care, but you kind of thought it like, you know, maybe, maybe like Bordeaux was was fighting.
00:07:15
Speaker
obviously the Bristol sale, which was just a shit match in a lot of ways. But also high scoring weird. Yeah, a lot of like, obviously, Quinn's, Montpellier, like everything had
00:07:29
Speaker
drama to it. They should do more of this, please, please, please more of this or no, it was not. It was not. It wasn't Bordeaux. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't I just don't like how we got here with the format of the of the panels because of, you know, but like in which those particular teams. Could you imagine if they did prem like semi finals like this? And stuff like a lot of tough bodies here. Oh,
00:07:55
Speaker
That would be so much fun. Or you do a top six and then, you know, the three through six play for, you know, have a play in. Like, yeah. Love it. Would love it. I don't know. I want to see more two leg things when we can, because that the drama was was intense. You know, go watch Champions League. That's right. They do all two like stuff. The footy. Yeah. Ew. Careful. We have people that are fans that listen to this.
00:08:25
Speaker
I remember that. I have a lot of respect for soccer. Football. It's one more thing to work to get into, and I'm a little old for that. Let's be honest. I enjoy it when I watch it. I have nothing, and I have full respect for the F. I'm not one of those stupid Americans who's like, fuck soccer. No, it's fun. It's exciting as hell.
00:08:49
Speaker
just can't get into following a team and learning more about a whole totally new sport. I've tried. You can just enjoy not having your heart broken every once in a while. Exactly. That's kind of how I watch it. Let's go over to Dublin real quick. We won't spend too long on some of the games. We should spend plenty of time on them. This is not one of them.
00:09:13
Speaker
A good Friday kickoff, as it were, and it was a good Friday for James Lowe. That's all I know. Very much was. I was quite happy to have him as my fantasy captain. Oh, yeah, that helps, too. Definitely. But, yeah, they just ran them. Connect did the same thing again this time. They went for points early.
00:09:37
Speaker
It went for threes. And what the fuck are you doing? Why did you think that? And I know it was one minute and eight, it was three points, but like, you're already down, like, what was it, 20 points or something on aggregate? It wasn't, it was like six. The decision on the first one was fine. The second one was the one I had the problem with. That was like, all right, I get it. You could technically tie this thing, but you're,
00:10:04
Speaker
you have a chance to really just grab this game by the neck and they didn't. And it was just like, okay, so a lot of good. I think Cardi missed it on top of it, which was not helpful at all. Nope, not not helpful. And really things just kind of went all kinds of downhill from there. It's just really what you've got.
00:10:24
Speaker
Like, I don't feel like games are controlled as much through scoring points as they are just being down in the other team's end, like, just, just staying down there that that pressure builds and eventually you get over and then, like,
00:10:39
Speaker
The the key is to to get down on that end again. Don't just give up and be like, oh, you know, we're good. We'll just take points right away. Like at least make them work. Even if you because what happens if you turned over deep in their end, they keep the touch. And now you have you're a little bit further out, but you're still right in their territory. So like, yeah, I don't I just don't get the kicking for points, especially in a matter in a they just weren't that told me all I needed to see. I think at that point,
00:11:08
Speaker
Yeah. You're not, you're away, man. Like you got up your way and you're down already. Yeah. And then I was doing bad math. I thought it was, they were down by more, but going into it. But yeah, disappointing. Yeah. No, no doubt. They played. I thought they played a hell of a match. I mean,
00:11:28
Speaker
Yeah. They were doing things that you can't really defend. So it's not fair. Yeah. And as we've mentioned it a couple of times, you know, Sexton seems to be just turning back the clock a little bit too and really just showing form right now. So that's it's bad news for anybody else that has to play, you know, this team going forward. And I think that would be Lester eventually. Well, I mean, honestly, though, when was the last time he's had
00:11:53
Speaker
like this much talent around him, too. Like, you know, Ireland's always had some strong forwards. But in the past, their backs have been like they've had like one or two at a time other than, you know, the fly half. It's not been it's not been a lineup. And certainly, you know, obviously this isn't Ireland, but but Leinstone themselves.
00:12:13
Speaker
I mean, low and O'Brien has been excellent at 14 and like they have just that. That's like almost I mean, it is an international, you know, 11 through 15. Everybody thinks O'Brien is going to be called soon, too. So so it's like, fuck, that's ridiculous. I mean, I remember when when Saris were playing Leinster, they had that was going to be a tough match in this competition. And
00:12:40
Speaker
But it was like the wings I was never really too concerned about. But damn, I'm sure that's helping anyway. Not that, you know, he's been fucking amazing. No doubt about that. Yeah, but certainly help around has been good. Yeah.
00:12:55
Speaker
Because, I mean, like Josh van der for played well in this match, but he was not like the stud because everybody, everybody was just. Yeah. Everybody was putting their hands up from here. Right. It's like, there just wasn't as much work for him as, as he's had in the past, which is kind of insane to think about how well that means the rest of them are playing. Right.
00:13:14
Speaker
So the four-time champs move on. It'll be very interesting to see how things go forward here. They look tough. It's going to be tough out. Yeah, good luck. And it'll be interesting with their quarter-file matchup. And then over to Bristol and Sale. Bristol just really... Bristol played...
00:13:38
Speaker
what one good half in four, four halves total. Yeah, pretty much. And chalk it up to that, really. And I'm not saying I'm not trying to take a ton away from sale, because they did the job and they did and they did it when when called upon. But we saw what this team could do in that one half like Jesus, they almost won this goddamn thing. You know, they nearly they nearly did it.
00:14:01
Speaker
But Joe Joyce, it was Joe Joyce doing it, too. And that was that was it. It happened in town. The story was written. Right. It's right there. I mean, fuck. Yeah, that was great. And you think that that's got to be the end.
00:14:23
Speaker
And it just, it sucks for, I feel they're, they're so hard done this year. And I mean, it's their own fault, but they're still hard done. Yeah. They've, they've been their worst, own worst enemy. And this is the stuff.
00:14:38
Speaker
Bristol are known for one thing and we know what they're known for now that has the downside and the upside to it. The upside is what we saw last year. The downside is what we're seeing this year, unfortunately. And that's you live live and die by the sword. And that that is what it is. You know, that's where we're at right now with it. And that's just how it goes. I mean, like you didn't really give him all. I mean, you know that like their their wings are not what they need from their wings.
00:15:07
Speaker
Leo and Morahan, I think are not, not the guys you really want in a match like this. If you're going to, I mean, Roebuck and Wren Reed showed up and made themselves pretty dangerous. Morahan, I mean, yeah, he scored a couple, but I mean, he scored, right. He scored ones that nobody was going to not score, I guess. Yeah. Um,
00:15:33
Speaker
Yeah, they just need more out of there. They're not getting any kind of cohesive performance. Like if anybody's having a good match, it's kind of an individual effort. It's not working team-wise. I do want to praise referee Frank Murphy, because I think there were a lot of decisions you had to get into this thing. And I think you got them all right, certainly as they're written.
00:15:57
Speaker
I don't think there's a whole lot to say otherwise. And yeah, all eyes were on this one, especially after the decisions that came down from the judiciary panels last week. So all eyes were on this weekend in terms of that. And this was a big one to start off in terms of how many fucking decisions need to be made by the referee. And I think you got them all. So credit to him.
00:16:21
Speaker
loads of credit to him. And that's that's not an easy position to be put in. But he and you know, he never went on felt like I don't think he ever felt like he was under pressure. I think he did everything in a calm manner, which is all you can ask of a referee. And yeah, I commend him very, very much so. And you know, he's not my favorite referee by any means, but he did well with this. Yeah, there were a lot of others who did much more. Not wrong. That is true. That's true.
00:16:51
Speaker
Great. All right. Yeah, let's, let's chuck over to the stoop. And yeah, I mean,
00:17:02
Speaker
If Quinn's hadn't left themselves such a bloody hole, this would have been so much easier and we wouldn't be talking about one freaking point. We'd be talking about them cruising to a win. But that first, you know, we talked about Bristol having one bad, one good half. Quinn's had one bad half. They really did.
00:17:23
Speaker
You know, and it did them. It did them in 100%. And, you know, they let Zach Mercer run all over the fucking place. And you let Zach Mercer run all over the fucking place for even 40 minutes, 45 minutes. That is it. That is all he needs. It certainly is. Any team playing for him as well. And Montpellier weren't really, I mean, Mercer didn't start. No.
00:17:44
Speaker
So it's not like they came in and said, you know, we're going to bring it back, our performance from from last and our squad from last week. I mean, Reinach wasn't even on the on the 23. No. So just, you know, kind of a vastly different. That's the different match that. You know, Queens could have, you know, all they had to do is keep them out at the very end. Well, the last bit anyway. Yeah, the last bit.
00:18:13
Speaker
Yeah. And you know, with freaking with Paul are playing 12. I was like, Oh, okay. This'll be interesting. Um, you know, credit to four sons. And I know it was a little late panel, all 54 minute penalty. That was, that was all it took. That was, that was the, that was the decider. And they just never, they had, they got, they got themselves that last try from lineup, which was huge. That, that put him within shouting distance. And then Fred, but then you leave, you leave me on, you know,
00:18:41
Speaker
Joe Gray to hit your line out and God knows he's had his day, but that is not his day anymore. And when that's happening and that's just gonna always put you in a tough spot, leaning on that. The one guy that I think, I hope everybody, he's shut everybody up for a little while is Dom Brandt. Everywhere you need him, every spot, every key spot you need him, he popped up.
00:19:09
Speaker
See, the problem is that it's like, it's just like the Marcus Smith thing, where people don't understand the highly rated, why they're highly rated. And it's not because they're perfect. That's not how this works. It's that on any given day, they can do this. And they're not, you know, there aren't many people who can. And yeah, Dom Brant was just a force, just like Mercer was in the first match. Actually, just like Dom Brant was in the first matchup. He was just kind of overshadowed by Mercer. Yeah, 100%.
00:19:38
Speaker
Like they're just so excellent at their jobs and that, yes, it's actually, yeah, Marcus missing the conversion is hard, but that happens, you know? Like the best miss. Nobody's perfect. You know, it's for all he did that's really hard to hold that against him. He'll hit that nine out of 10. He'll be in key situations like that where he nails it.
00:20:04
Speaker
And, you know, he'll learn from us if you want to. The one play that actually surprised me that that I thought that that Smith honked. And I thought alive is when things get squirrely and you get your like around your own players, your players might be in front of you, something like that. The best thing you can possibly do is just get the ball away from there because it's like you don't know if you're going to have a shepherd or anything like that. Just, you know, it could.
00:20:33
Speaker
get the ball away, because otherwise, you know, the ref is like, if you get the ball away, the ref's like, oh, well, you know, whatever the ball moved away. It was, there's no impact. And Smith going around the corner with what was it? Hugh Jones kind of in front of him and he blocked him off. Yep. That's right. There was a, there was a player unmarked on the wing.
00:20:51
Speaker
And it's like, just throw the pass. Just get it away from this situation. This is not the place where the ball should be. And Marcus Dues is usually better about things like that. And so that's the one thing. That, more than the honk, was what I saw. And I'm not criticizing him for, like, fuck, it just happens. You see the try line. You're like, hey, I want to score a try.
Harlequins' Performance Review
00:21:11
Speaker
Totally. Totally, totally. Yeah, I agreed. It's breaking that instinct to make it the smarter play for the referees.
00:21:22
Speaker
Yeah, that's experience. Yep. That's just like I said, it'll be it'll talk about I talked about last week. Let's just this could be that that next step and the next year we could see them, you know, semi final final time. This just play this just in person in their early 20s makes mistake.
00:21:43
Speaker
Yeah, I know. Right. How dare you? You fucking suck. Yeah, we expect him to be perfect. And that's for a lot of players, not just Marcus. So that's that's you have to like just where you live that you had to watch these players do stuff like this, like that, instead of being like, oh, he's overrated. Fuck that. He's fucking good. Shut up. He's good. Enjoy it. He's good. Don't need to spend too much time on this one. La Rochelle and Bordeaux. I mean,
00:22:14
Speaker
As soon as the red tide came, I was like, that's the end. This is done. Right. And it was like, it was so stupid. Like, you can't be dumber than that. You really can't. I mean, yes, LaRochelle had a decent lead going into this, but like, still, like, you have to know, like, that is just the one thing that's going to put your team in the wrong spot for this whole freaking thing. And, yep, there you go. Good job, you freaking loser.
00:22:40
Speaker
Like, I'd be so mad. I'd be so fucking mad if I was a play-doh player. Right. Yeah. And it was just, you know, like, so blatant. Just tucking the arm, like, not even... There was just straight, like, I didn't think I saw it live. I think this is one of the ones where I just didn't quite see it. I did not either. No. But, like, as soon as it's shown on the replay, it's like, oh, well, he's gone.
00:23:11
Speaker
There's a lot of plays like that this weekend where it's like, what the fuck are you even thinking there? Yeah, that was just really stupid right there. And yeah, players have just kind of lost their heads about, thankfully none of them did, but like seriously, they're just,
00:23:29
Speaker
You know, straight headshots, like they're trying to hit head. Like you have to. I don't know. I understand because I hell, I've made my share of high tackles. But half of that was because I was just fattened out of shape and didn't want to get down low to make it a proper tackle. I was just like, I can use my strength to take this guy down.
00:23:51
Speaker
but like these are, you know, these are professional athletes. They're supposed to be able to crouch at the drop of a hat for 80 minutes. Like that's, that's, and they, and they just are not capable of doing that. And that's, yeah. Yeah. And this bullshit is why there are a lot of people that just don't want that 20 minute bullshit going on. Yeah. I have no, no need for it.
00:24:14
Speaker
same same same with you there until the players get until that becomes like a truly shocking like wow i haven't seen this in a couple weeks just like wow i haven't seen this in oh you know a match yeah maybe uh yeah maybe maybe
00:24:34
Speaker
So they got to start coming down harder on the players too. The bands have got to increase. Yeah, the freaking, the Mueller one from brief, like almost equivalent to Guy Porter. I was like, that's bullshit. That is bullshit. I don't know how we got half of his freaking band caught, but that's absolute horseshittering. That was just a bit of thuggery right there. That's bullshit. It was total targeting.
00:24:59
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, so here's the thing. If you want to make it the one thing college football does that I think is good is they have a similar thing where it's like if you hit somebody in the head. You know a defenseless receiver so like that and someone in the head.
00:25:15
Speaker
boom, targeting, you're out of the game. That's the automatic, you're out of the game. And then, but they have like a TMO kind of thing. There is a booth review of the hit. And sometimes I'll say, you know, it's just a 15 yard penalty. And it's like, but so there's that kind of, if you want to do that for like, you know, an orange card or something like that at some point down the road, maybe, but right now we've got to get this out of the game. But it should be like,
00:25:41
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's not a topic I'm going to really weigh on for a long time. Like 20 minutes, the orange card, that's neither one of them belong here right now. Right. Coaches, teach your fucking tapas to tackle them. End of story. Right now. That is it. You know, that's the bottom line. Let's go over to Tomin.
00:26:01
Speaker
in a big one for Munster and they are back. They are, yeah, this is what everybody wanted right here. And it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot of fun. This is, and to your point in last week when we talked about it,
00:26:19
Speaker
this is what we were kind of hoping a little bit more of for Munster. And just, you know, they didn't open it up by any means whatsoever. But you know, Joey Carberry coming back is absolutely 100% a huge help. Let's not deny that by any means whatsoever. And consider that it's Exeter who are just masters of slowing the game down. So who also started five locks somehow.
00:26:43
Speaker
I mean, I'll give you, you know, Kirsten or everyone could play six, but man, you're one of them should be playing seven or eight. No. And you have Gundona and Capstick on the bench, and he kept Capstick on the bench for how long? Or Gundona, he kept Gundona on there for a while, didn't he? Till 74th minute, he came on. Yeah.
00:27:03
Speaker
Yep. Came on with 11 to go. Like that's the other thing is capstick came on for Jacques Vermeulen. And I'm sorry, like, you know, like Vermeulen is the one who I, you know, when I, when I say you, they're starting five locks, like he's the guy, it's like, maybe I'm on the lock thing, but he's also kind of maybe on the phone, you know, anything other than a six. But like, he just keeps the slow guys in and I don't get it.
00:27:35
Speaker
Yeah, Ewers came off late, which is, it's all right, but like, you know. Should've been off a lot earlier. He's so bad. You know, and waiting for Hendrickson, like... Yeah, you know, he's a master tactician. I don't believe that for a fucking second. No. He was not prepared to win this game. I, like, you know, and...
00:27:58
Speaker
No, Sam, in the lineup. Hurt, yeah. Oh, is he hurt? Yeah, he's hurt. He was banged up last week. Okay. I would assume he's banged up. Jesus, you better fucking put him in there if you're still trying to hang on to us. What was that? A five-point lead? Yeah, but they're also... I think they'd rather win the prem than...
00:28:18
Speaker
They're not going to win this. They're not going to have it. They're going to have issues with that. So right. So but either way, if I'm risking Simmons anywhere, it's going to be in the pram. If I'm Baxter like that, that was my thinking anyway.
00:28:33
Speaker
Especially because, you know, talking about the lineup, you know, it doesn't make sense. If you don't start Sam Simmons, why aren't you starting Capstone? Like somebody who can run. Truth. None of them can run. Yeah, it was bad news all day for all over the place. And there was, you know, and at the same time, like you
00:28:54
Speaker
I have to say, I look at both lineups right now and I'm thinking one through 15, more often than not, I'm leaning towards red in this matchup and that shouldn't shock anybody, you know, Murray over monitor, Carver over Simmons, DLN day, Mr. Zebo and welcome back Mr. Zebo. Yeah. How you've been missed. Right. And that was, that was fun. Like they didn't really unleash him.
00:29:18
Speaker
No, very little. Like they didn't have to. You had one key impact and that was the difference. And that's what really good players do though. Like you're asleep for 90% of the match. The one time your number is called and you need to make that play. You need to make it. And he did. And he absolutely put the one day away. And boy, was that a fantastic try. I thought he still had it. I was just like, why the ball? That was it. Like I had to...
00:29:48
Speaker
I couldn't see it live. I didn't see it on the replay that they showed live. I had to go wait until the match ended.
00:29:56
Speaker
and then like rewind it or something. I don't remember exactly what I did, but I had to go, or maybe I looked at it on the Twitters or something like that, where I was like, okay, what the fuck did he do? Where did that ball go? It was like, I see that like he makes a movement, but I don't see the ball leave his hand. I was like, oh, it just came out at a weird angle, but it's like, fuck.
00:30:16
Speaker
Really well done. It was a wonderful pass to finish it off. Love it. Loved it. Loved it. But yeah, you're one through 15. It might be Hodge. It might over Haley. Yep. That's probably it. That's probably it. Agreed. I'll give you that one for sure. So, Munster are back in the quarterfinal and we'll see how loosely how they go. I'm sure everybody over in Limerick is bouncing up and down about it.
00:30:42
Speaker
to another one that we won't spend too much time on, Wellford Road, Lester and Claremont. Claremont brought a very B side to this, just kind of more or less, you can see, all right, we're boned. Just don't hurt it. Don't make it hurt too bad. Yeah. Then to Lester to their credit, didn't. I mean,
00:31:00
Speaker
Claremont hurt themselves more than anything. Yeah. Yeah. A couple of yellow cards, you know, apart from the from the chest from red tar, but, you know, if they ever had a shot at this thing, they certainly didn't go at it like they like they had a shot at it, I would say.
00:31:15
Speaker
You know, I don't think anybody would disagree with that. So it's, you know, yeah, it was Leibenberg leading off with a try and Lopez leading off with a with a pen that kind of told you everything right there. Right. I was like, all right, this match is pretty much over right now, isn't it? Like Claremont would have had to come out super duper firing and they didn't. So I have. Yeah, I had forgotten because I didn't I didn't watch the second half of this match.
00:31:38
Speaker
And like, when you mentioned that, I was like, I don't remember, Chaz, I'm getting it read. And I was like, oh yeah, it's because I was like, this game's over. I'm not watching the rest. No, I mean, red card all day. Right. And he's like, oh shit, I totally fucked this up too. And he apologized. He's like, yep, my fault. My bad. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. High shot. Absolutely high shot. I don't remember the exact number that he hit, but yeah, I think he shook his hand afterwards and said, sorry about that.
00:32:06
Speaker
So, yeah, this is where people in Leicester want this team to be and credit to Steve Borthwick and the captain Ellis Genge and, you know, Ford and whatnot. They're putting them right back where a lot of Leicester fans of old are. This is what they're missing. You know, they want this competition to matter again to them. And
00:32:29
Speaker
Congratulations, you're in the corner file. It fucking matters now. And the fans at Walford Road need to learn how to chug a beer. I saw that. I did see that. Even they were just like foul.
00:32:44
Speaker
Yeah, right they tweeted it out like, sorry about that guy. We as a club apologize for this. Oopsie daisy. That's right. I remember my first beer.
00:32:59
Speaker
Um, in dude's defense, because it's not fair. He got fucking clapped right on the back by the guy next to him. Oh, geez. That'll throw you off for sure. Right. So because to be fair, I would not want that to be me. No, same. Yeah, dude, slap you on the back as you're trying to drink. That's like the worst thing possible. Right. And then but nobody can really see it. You have to actually look. I saw somebody tweeted
00:33:28
Speaker
And I was like, oh shit, somebody is hitting him on the back. I was like, okay. Rough. Socks. Agreed. Let's go to Belfast and Kingspin. And if any player can do it,
00:33:45
Speaker
It was going to be DuPont. And so too, so here's what happens with games like this. You know, we saw the demolition that Alstra were giving them. We even go back to like the demolition that Malpelia was given, Quince, and they fought back to give themselves a shot. Same here, you know, like Toulouse were like, all right, we have to do everything possible to give ourselves a shot in the second leg. And they did. They freaking fought tooth and nail to get themselves a six-point deficit, which,
00:34:13
Speaker
This team can definitely handle, no doubt. And, you know, going away from home, it was always going to be a huge ask, but it is something that they can do. These are the defending European champions. They have Grand Slam winners throughout the squad. They had what it was going to take to get this done. And just a little nudge.
00:34:35
Speaker
Got it done. And not not by much, but it was it. It works. It counts. You know, we're talking about, you know, fine margins, one point. And yeah, it was it was a fantastic freaking match on top of it all. It really was no doubt. It really was. I even even though the fucking Carly and Tempo did their fucking level best to fuck it up.
00:35:06
Speaker
Yeah, it was just a fantastic match. I mean, that is kind of what you want. You want the referees to be the worst group on the field when the match is this good. But not that bad. Yeah, they were. I mean, they were certainly at the center of a lot of things, no doubt. I feel like everything, yeah, everything got looked at.
Rugby Disciplinary Actions Debate
00:35:29
Speaker
It did slow the game down a little bit. I agree. I agree. It was really annoying.
00:35:35
Speaker
Um, but the tool red card was accurate. This is the danger of going into those types of tackles the way he did. And you have to just, you know, we, we saw one down super rugby as well. Like you just got to be very conscious of what you're doing. All right. You have somebody already working on a tackle. You have to be very conscious of how you're going in and what you're doing. And, uh,
00:35:56
Speaker
high and tucked arm is never going to go well. No, it's not. There's, yeah, there's much better techniques than that. And I don't think they're coaching it well. No, I agree. It's such an awkward thing to coach. So it's hard. But you have to work it. It's time. Yeah, I think that's, that's one of the big takeaways from all these red cards, I think is,
00:36:24
Speaker
Yeah, you got to got to work on that because it's an awkward it's awkward and they're happy it's happening it's so fast. So I know there's there's not.
00:36:33
Speaker
quite the intent there. We'll talk about the one that there was a little bit of intent in the Southern Hemisphere one. Yeah, this one was was one of those that's a red need to get to take that one, you know, and learn from it. Yep, yep. And nobody feels worse than Tommy at all. So no, keep that in mind. Right. He feels as bad as anybody else does out there. So don't give him nothing. He got too much flack, thankfully. But yeah, right. Because that's just that's what Yeah, there's not much
00:37:02
Speaker
to be angry about there. He did it. He OK. Red card there. And all I did was just take a scrub cap off and go, oh, shit, I'm in trouble. Yeah.
00:37:10
Speaker
And we talked about it with other players like Zebo and obviously DuPont on a level of his own, like having a less than stellar match for the most part, I think we'd all agree. And he pops up for the winner. And it's what you need in really, you're really high end players that they need to pop up at the right moments, no matter how shitty of a game they've had. And that is what's going to get you over the line sometimes. And, you know,
00:37:35
Speaker
this could be a very good catalyst for Toulouse to go on and they're going to be on the road for quite a bit of this champions cup, but this is a very good team. This is a team that's built with some really good, really good personnel. So yeah, this is the, they're the, they're the champions until the champ's no more. So just keep that in mind kids having him starting again, made it. That was huge. Yep. I agree. I agree. I noticed that as well. And then
00:38:01
Speaker
uh the prison derby part two and it's still the same result yeah a lot of russing not so much died and just yeah freaking sef navallu how dumb are you man like i don't even i i can't even explain it like you can't be this dumb you can't be this dumb and winning the champions cup especially against a team like russing like
00:38:27
Speaker
Jeez, I'm so dumb, so dumb. Cause you're, you're on, you're already on a yellow. So like that, I thought the referee did a fucking fantastic job with that. And he's like, are we going to review this? He's like, it was a, yeah, the, oh, the, the, the Georgian Amish Kelly. Yep. Amish Kelly. Um, I thought he was fantastic. Yes. I think he did quite well. Um, but this was my, this was one of my favorite officiating
00:38:56
Speaker
you know, administrative activities of all time. I mean, you got to have a top 10 list, right? But just to be like, you know what, he's on a yellow. I'm not even going to bother looking at that anymore. It's at least a yellow. He's a red. He's out like he's just let's let's just move on. He cut out like 10 minutes worth of review just to be like, yeah, fuck it. We're done. He's he's already on a yellow. Get him off the field. Totally. So, yeah, well, well done there.
00:39:25
Speaker
Yeah, so like you couldn't do it any better. Yeah, but how stupid are like you already.
00:39:32
Speaker
You're already on a yellow and your team needs to play well and probably wants all 15 players on the field at the same time. And decides to screw it up, especially with the way they started. They started with a freaking bionic try. That was like, all right, this is the start you need. This is what Bordeaux was begging for. They needed that type of start. Yes. And they didn't get it. No. This is what Claremont was begging for. And again, the pegs scored on the even on the first yellow.
00:40:00
Speaker
And again, actually, even after the red, but still, it's like you're doing okay, like just... And it's 34 minutes. How are you going to get two cards in 30 minutes? You played 14 minutes and got two yellow cards total. Like, because he was on the field for at least 10, and then he... Yeah, because he got it one at 17 minutes, so he played... Yeah, he played 24 minutes. Oh, geez. This is so bad.
00:40:28
Speaker
That's just so bad. That's not good. Yeah. I pine him. If I'm the coach, I'm pining him anyway. I'm like, dude, I don't care what the disappointment he said. You're done. You're done. Like, go sit for a little bit. Good Lord. Latu's on that frickin' ship as well. So, jeez. Yeah. But yeah, you can't give Rossing any of that. And because you have... You're right. They had them. They had a chance at it.
00:40:58
Speaker
Totally. I mean, what was it? Rossum didn't even get on the board till like, well, the 34th minute, that until that penalty tried. The penalty tried. Yeah. That was their first points. Those are first try. They had, they had a penalty before that, but yeah. Oh, they had one 19. Oh, sorry. No, they had two at that point. Sorry. Yeah. I mean, that's six points, but that's a huge swing of, you know, they've only got six too. Now they have 13. Right.
00:41:25
Speaker
And they rode that wave the rest of the way. And that was it. Yeah. They didn't need to do much else after that. It was like, oh, OK, points. Scoring points. This is how, OK, we're good. We got this. That's what we need to do. Points. I forgot about that part. Genius. Yeah. But you just make it that much easier for them when they did.
00:41:43
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, and we did see the double yellow, which was hilarious for the hookers, which we saw a couple of weeks ago in the WASPs match. Right. I think it was for the props. But yeah, yeah, just carding both front rows at the same time is like, listen, I'm done with your bullshit. Both of you go sit for a little bit. And when you figure out your crap, come back and, you know, we can try this again. Okay. Okay.
00:42:07
Speaker
Yeah, like, it's because I warned you, I told you, you know, like, do that, they will tell you. And sometimes they'll let things go just because they don't want to yell at you. In this case, he's like, Oh, fuck both of you guys. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done. Go. Bye bye. So we have
00:42:27
Speaker
We have four French. We have two English. Baffling, we have two Irish remaining. Munster will host Toulouse at the Aviva. We have La Rochelle and Montpellier. That'll be at Marcel de Flandre in La Rochelle. Wellford Road's gonna host Leicester and Leinster, a battle of old European-like headliners. And this was a final once upon a yesteryear, too. Yes, it was.
00:42:55
Speaker
Yeah, that'll be a very, very tasty match. I think that's going to be a fucking fantastic match. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited about that in the Monster Match. And then Rossing will host sale at La Defense. And even though they might have AJ back, I still don't envision sale going in there and doing the number. But Sanderson's seen that place. Right. He's been there once or three times. So maybe that'll come to his advantage. Never now.
00:43:25
Speaker
right now. So here we go. Hold on to your seats. And then I do know the let's see the lowest the lowest seeds I can tell you what that is. So Montpellier are traveling for the whole the whole thing. It'll be it'll be winner of Montpellier and La Rochelle playing Rossing or sale.
00:43:46
Speaker
And Lester Leinster will play the winner of Munster Toulouse. And I believe Toulouse is on the road the whole time as well. So right now if Tigers were to win, they'd be hosting in England and Rossing were to win, they'd be hosting in France. So we'll see how that plays out. Very, very, very interesting. Yeah, that's good. I would not be shocked if the winner of this competition comes from that match.
00:44:12
Speaker
No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't either. Yeah, it's gonna be a fun one. All right, let's jump over the the hemispheres here and go down to Crusaders and Blues and the ghost of King Carlos comes to Colin for the Blues and gets it done in Christchurch like
00:44:34
Speaker
I was watching this match, I got about half of it and I had to go do a couple things and I came back and I was like, I wanted to get back to this match as fast as possible because I knew it was going to be a good one. It was entertaining as all. It did not disappoint at all. Right. By no means. I was like, yes, this is what you need. This is the stuff you need right there. Right down to the end. I lost track of the time of the match.
00:45:01
Speaker
And when Bowdoin kicked a touch, I was like, wait, what? Oh, shit, that was it? I was like, oh, fuck. That's the end. Wow. Yeah, I had it on mute. I was working, but it was like taking a break towards the last 10 minutes there. And I was like,
00:45:21
Speaker
just glued to my seat. Yeah, it was it was this was a freaking this is the stuff that you want out of this one. And unfortunately, unfortunately, Mike Frazier had the whistle and I actually didn't notice him that much. Although I think you still I do remember yelling at him a couple of times being like, that's not what I call. But for the most part, he didn't make any horrible decisions.
00:45:42
Speaker
Um, really, really, really unfortunate for, um, didn't they lose one of the locks early again? Yeah. Barrett. Oh, his red was, was just awful. Like that's, that's just, that's got no click. There was like, dude's wrapped up. He's getting double tackled already. You're, you're the third dude in. Leave it. Yeah. And he just launches himself right at the, and it's like,
00:46:11
Speaker
you know, tucked arm, like never, never anything legal about it. And clearly ill intent, just. That's the thing. But the thing is, there's no shit like that doesn't get policed that much down there. So that's why there's, you know, he kind of feels empowered to do that because Southern Hemisphere doesn't really care much about headshots. But good, they took care of that. I haven't seen if he's gotten banned yet. Obviously, he needs to be.
00:46:41
Speaker
Agreed. Yeah. Awful. No, not good. I think it cost them the game because... They may have, yeah. One player on the field is probably worth four points in this match for the Crusaders, just the way they roll.
00:46:57
Speaker
And, you know, the machine works with 15, much better than it does with 14. As always. Because they did, they fucking machined up. They were going, yeah, they were going, they were going well for a little while in this one. And Blues obviously did a great job of keeping up with them even up until the Barrett red card. But yeah, once that happened, it was like, all right, this might be enough to get them over the line. I'm sure, I'm sure the Blues sensed it too, no doubt.
00:47:23
Speaker
I think the last time the Blues won in Christchurch, I think Leon McDonald's was playing for the Crusaders. 18 years ago. It was a tough old game overall, but man, this was just so much fun to watch.
00:47:37
Speaker
Yeah, blues are starting to peak. That is the bad news for everybody
Blues' Victory and Tournament Growth
00:47:41
Speaker
else as well. It really is. That's not just the Crusaders you got to worry about. Now you need to worry about the blues. So congratulations, everybody. There's no team in New Zealand that can't get hot and just be, you know, unstoppable. I mean, it was the Chiefs a couple of weeks ago when the Blues have been, but now they're on fire. Crusaders were a little bit like each one. Everybody's kind of had their turn.
00:48:07
Speaker
in the barrel, some of them longer than others. But yeah, totally. Yeah, the blues are blues are at the top right now. They're cracking up for good reason. Rebels and Reds.
00:48:21
Speaker
This is much better from the rebels as opposed to what we saw in probably the first four weeks. And we, and we talked about even last week when they won. Um, but this is a lot better from them. Obviously it comes out in a loss and they're very disappointed with that. But, um, you have the guys that you need, you need stepping up. You have the loose, the loose trio. Matt Phillip is starting to really lead from the front, um, out there for, for them as well. Uh, you know,
00:48:49
Speaker
They had, they're, they're a little desperate in the center. So that's why Kelly's playing 13. Um, but overall, this is something that I think Kevin foot can feel really, really good about. And the way that his club has started to pick up their game and, you know, you're, you're going against the defending, you know, super rugby, a U champs and reds, and you're giving them all they can handle.
00:49:08
Speaker
Right. This is what the rebels. Yeah. They've been like this in the past, so it's good to see them getting back to it. It just kind of sucks that they're doing it in losses. That's just shitty, but settling for moral victory sometimes is
00:49:26
Speaker
you know, moral victory sometimes is actually, you know, a positive in the end. It just gives you that momentum. It gives you some belief, you know, the way the Rebels were playing a couple of weeks ago. This was a, this would have been just running off the field. Yeah, totally. Forget about it. So, so you got to, yeah, you got to recognize progress at least, at least when you can. No doubt about it. And now the,
00:49:51
Speaker
I think we all know the gold, the gold nine shirt is not necessarily pasted on anybody's back right now, but Tim McDermott certainly putting his hand up and saying it's mine. Right. You know, Nick white is very hot and cold. And I think when both are playing their best, I think take the better nine and provides a better chance for them to, to go as, as they go forward. So, um, Ozzy fans, just keep rooting for Tate McDermott. You don't have to root for the Reds, but keep rooting for Tate McDermott if you want your team to be good. Cause he's the nine.
00:50:21
Speaker
Yeah, he needs to be informed. I will say, though, from one more thing about the Rebels is that, you know, the longer Ryan Martin is there, the better that attack gets. Yeah, we know that. We know that.
00:50:38
Speaker
You know, I, I'll pat myself on the back a little bit. I mentioned him last week, Fraser McRite. He's an absolute menace. He's an absolute menace. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a guy that belongs in the lobby squad as well. So try assist and just, you know, seal and everything and making tackles. Yeah. That was a sweet try assist to just running up, you know, just booking it and being like, well, I could give it to, you know,
00:51:07
Speaker
You yeah, which one do I go do that right? Make your pick buddy. Yeah, so very very good stuff rebels rebels are as well, but red starting to hit form going into this This cross track and truck the across Tasman the super weekend as they're calling it over there So that could that only goes well for them in this comp To Waikato Chiefs and Moana just
00:51:37
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the chiefs aren't like, they're good, but they make so many mistakes. And this match, they were just allowed to basically make whatever mistake they wanted to. They got away with them. They'll get away with it. So that to me has been the difference is that Moana was not ready to take advantage of those mistakes that
00:52:04
Speaker
A lot of the other teams in this competition will. And then, so that's, it's just, you know, they're not, they're not, you know, they're not fully baked yet. That's fine. That's not, no shame in it. No, no shame in it. Not at all. That's really the, that's it. Yeah. And they kept, you know, they kept some of the, they kept some of the, um, Pacifica big Pacifica names. Um, they did kind of quiet. Um, there was no Lele Afano. Um, I think he picked up a knock last match. Um,
00:52:34
Speaker
Tava Tava now I was very, very, very quiet, for the most part, he had nine carries made a whopping 30 meters on nine carries, which is good, you know, not great for your, your guy really made every effort possible to stay busy, you could see his number was popping up everywhere. But just no, couldn't find couldn't find a gap. So credit to the Chiefs defense at the very least, even if they're not doing everything
00:52:57
Speaker
Very good on the offensive side. Well, they were letting Kata run wherever he wanted to. So I saw that. Yeah. Maybe he's the forgotten guy in there. Yeah, exactly. It's like, well, you know what? Looking at the rest of that roster, I'm OK. You know, if Kata is fucking in, I don't want to tackle him. So you let him run up the pitch a little bit. That's fine. Rather than give it to some of the other guys who could finish. I mean, Kata finished, but that's just because he's a fucking beast. Right.
00:53:24
Speaker
Um, the best center for the chiefs is Alex. Thank you, Bill. Yeah. Hard to argue with that. I mean, why are we limiting that to center? He's their best player right now. Um, he's, yeah, he's definitely, and then yeah, there's, there's certain, you know, like Vi's been fucking outstanding too. Um, you know, no, um,
00:53:49
Speaker
No, Peter Gus again this week. Yeah. They didn't really need him. So I'm kind of glad that they gave him a little bit of a break. Got a week off. No, no, Webber. No, no, no. No, no. No, Webber played. Oh, yeah, that's right. He came off the bench. Came off the bench. And yeah, because they needed some backsubs. I guess what? Stevenson got hurt. Mm hmm.
00:54:11
Speaker
Yeah. And then they wanted to, you know, rotate some guys in. Yep. Yep. Oopsie. But they, they, they, yeah. Cause students got hurt. Not that, not as early as I thought it was, but still wasn't too early. Yeah. Yes, it was. It was like, what, 15 minutes in? Yeah. 50 minutes. Um, yeah. Very, very good.
00:54:30
Speaker
Um, so yeah, maybe, maybe this'll be a sign for the chief. Scares me that I got that right. I was like, yeah, it was around like 50 minutes, 50 seconds, whatever. Yep. Close enough. Yeah. Saturday over to four side bar and.
00:54:49
Speaker
I'll say right now, I'm not happy with the way the hurricanes played in this match for about 75 minutes or so. Honestly, like there were about two or three one minute patches where they turned it into something. Other than that, I am not super satisfied with the way this team is playing. So I hope that's not the standard we're fucking going with, which is this match because it was mostly poor with the exception of the, you know, they did take advantage of
00:55:15
Speaker
Um, the time when who was up, Selby, Rick, Dixon, wherever it was, um, Dixon, when he was off with, um, the red card, but they took advantage of that time. So that is, that is the difference. Um, in the end, um, say what you will about the referee. Uh, but they at least took advantage of that, but really outside of that.
00:55:37
Speaker
Not a lot to be happy with. And I'm sure, I'm sure Holland is just freaking reading on the riot act at every, every minute or every, every chance that it gets. Uh, cause yeah, this was not that good, like hung on by, by our fingernails in the end. Um,
00:55:51
Speaker
Highlanders came at them eventually, took them a while, but they eventually came down the pike and said, oh, okay, we got score. Yeah. And because both teams have kind of been that way, I feel like they've been, you know, the highlanders are in both of them are, they're dangerous, but they're just not playing well. And so it's like, if you give them long enough, they'll start, they'll start doing stuff. So yeah. And.
00:56:16
Speaker
The difference to me is that the Highlanders don't do enough to win, whereas the Hurricanes do in the end. So that's not where you want to be, but it's like, hey, at least we got that over them. I don't know what else to tell you, dude. Agreed. Here's the issue. And I talk about the Jordie Barrett at 12th and last weekend. I think really what it comes down to is looking at the long game as a Hurricanes fan. I understand what the All Blacks are looking at and what he's looking at for that.
00:56:46
Speaker
But you have, so we have Billy Proctor, we have Umaga Jensen, we have Bail and Sullivan. Three of those are, all three of those are very, very good centers. Now, if they can't get their playing time at the hurricanes, they're either one gonna go to another team in New Zealand or two even worse for the whole grand scheme of things for the All Blacks. They're gonna jump ship and just leave for Europe and go find some money. So I get that they, and the All Blacks do need a,
00:57:14
Speaker
an upgrade at some of their centers, because I think that was a weak spot for them last year. I don't think you'll see too pied back there. Yeah. Good hue being missed was huge. I've been saying all along, their best center, they like go to France and they're not getting them back. So, you know, and I love and or and I think have really solid. I don't think he's that good. I think Rico, you want to use absolute 100% you're 13. Got it.
00:57:43
Speaker
But now the question is what do you do at 12? And they're definitely looking for answers. There's no question about that. And it's not anything against Taveli. He's just, the All Blacks want to be that next level. And we saw that they were not that level, the whole international calendar this past year. So they're trying to solve those problems. I'm not sure Jordy Barrett's it, but I understand that they're looking for answers and that's one of the ones are considering. That's, I mean, yeah, it's hard to not, you know, have something like that. If you can
00:58:12
Speaker
I don't know. For Geordi, that might be the only way he plays anymore. And you want him on the field, so it kind of benefits everybody at the All Blacks level. But you're right, it's not terribly helpful for the Kanes right now.
00:58:36
Speaker
By all means, it sounds like the All Blacks do like Peter and Michael Jensen. Now he's got a lot of more developing to do, but as a club level guy, he's a very, very good player. And he was, in this game, he was chomped at the bit. He's like, get me the fuck on the field. Like they were talking about it on the side in the commentary. Like, yeah, he is just staring up at the box waiting to go on the field. I was like, wow.
00:58:54
Speaker
That's ballsy. So I don't think the hurricanes have named a lineup for this weekend, but that's going to be interesting to see how that goes down. So yeah, it's a lot needs to be done with it in terms of the midfield. It is named. He's in it. Oh, okay. They've shifted things back around. It's Aiden Morgan at 10.
00:59:16
Speaker
Umaga Jensen's at 12 along and next to Bailin Sullivan, who I really want to get a run. I love the other two guys, but I really want to see what he can do because if he's anything like Zarn, he's going to be good. So he's back at 15. So they, and who's who's in. Oh, is it not on, it's on Twitter. No, it's not, but it's up, but it's out on the, um, on the super super website. So there you go. I'll call it a winner. I'll call it with that. Okay. Um, and the last thing force and war toss. Um,
00:59:47
Speaker
You know, the force didn't do themselves a lot of favors in this match by basically waiting till 45 minutes in to play rugby. You know, yes, they got the early try with Passatoa, who I thought played brilliantly. And this is another one of those exciting, you know, number 10, number 12 guys that could be playing for Australia. That's very young.
01:00:10
Speaker
But yeah, other than that, they didn't decide to play rugby until about 45 minutes. So that doesn't do you any favors, especially against a team that's got Michael Hooper. Right. Yeah, he'll just.
Waratahs' Return to Form
01:00:23
Speaker
He got over too. He got over very early. Right. Although Marky Mark did good first, but still. Yeah, I like seeing that he's back. That makes me happy.
01:00:38
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah, the, the ties are, they're not a team you can sleep on at this point. No, this is a good team. This is, this is back to where people wanted to, you know, expect the word has to be, you know, playing, you know, against the reds against, you know, the Brumby's for, you know, bragging rights in Australia against the other TV teams and giving them a go. Um, that's what people want when you're from New South Wales. So.
01:01:02
Speaker
And if, especially if the rebels are back to like, if, if the, you know, you can have those four teams slugging it out and, and, you know, no, no disrespect intended whatsoever to the force. Um, cause they're not, they're not far away, but the, you know, right now on the scoreboard, they're far away.
01:01:21
Speaker
Yes. Um, they seem to be unfortunately trending down as opposed to how they started. They started fantastically for this. Um, but just not sustaining it. No, they're good. They're kind of fading, unfortunately. And yeah, time to go running into Kiwi teams. Um, although we'll play this weekend, but, um, this is yeah. Um, so bad news for them, but it's good news for new South Wales and yeah, they were talking about like,
01:01:46
Speaker
Did you just have an embarrassment or riches attend? Like Will Harrison, Tane Edward. I think Ben Donaldson's back. Like all those guys are quality. That's not fair, man. That is not fair. I'm mad. That's not fair.
01:02:02
Speaker
Come on, man. That is, yeah, I'd be very excited if I was a War Toss fan, especially. And I was an Aussie fan. That'd be something very exciting. Think about the young first receivers you have down there. You have James O'Connor, who's probably the incumbent.
01:02:18
Speaker
then you have those little CEO, you have Will Harrison and that crew from the war ties, as we meant, as I mentioned, recent pass a toa. Bailey Kunzo looks pretty good. Like you have Matt as well. Like, yeah, there's, there's a lot of good stuff going on. Come on, buddy. Damn dog. Okay.
01:02:42
Speaker
um all right so you know that's not that's not too bad um and you have hooper to guide them now which is there you can't solid you know you you can't underestimate that impact that he's he's having just being you know back now he's healthy and
01:03:00
Speaker
You know, guys like Charlie Gamble get to play with him. Fuck. Right. What any like he gets to learn from from that kind of player and see and see, you know, live and it's so different from when you watch it on film to when you're playing next to somebody with them and seeing how they operate. Yeah. Yeah. And for him to learn them all better. And I like Will Harrison to in that in that back row as well. And you still have Tizano and there's a lot of good things going on with that, you know.
01:03:28
Speaker
The dog's trying to break back into the room. So yeah, lots of things to be excited about as Australian rugby fans and as of course as Warhol's fans as well. So good for them. Yeah, this round coming up is going to be very, very interesting. Very, very interesting. Do a quick look around for
01:03:53
Speaker
The MLRs, no freejacks game this week. They were off. Actually bumped into a couple of them at my club match. It was very interesting. Walks is very short. Walks is very short. I don't, you don't get a sense of how short somebody gets to stay next to them, but yeah, Walks is very short. So, and he gets up there too. So, anyway.
01:04:20
Speaker
So wrap up, uh, Oh, glory finally get a W the down Utah 22 21. I guess, um, Nate Osborne is going to take over the former no adult coaches taking over there in an interim basis. And, um, who knows? Maybe he takes the permanent job. If they can find ways to win, um, we'll do them good. Uh, Toronto win at home. Finally. Um, although I think they did the other week, but still it's nice to have them see them back in Toronto and playing in front of home fans and, you know,
01:04:49
Speaker
people wearing more blue than not for that. They'd be Noah who's, again, we're not Noah fans over here. Los Angeles just edged out Houston. So Houston have gotten better, I'd say, but they're still not that good. I think we all can agree on that. Seattle beat,
01:05:10
Speaker
Legion up in up in Seattle. So tough battle for San Diego. They lost by two. So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see all the West Shakes out there. And it's really very interesting. And then Austin just beat up on the new guys Dallas so shocker of the day, shocker of the day.
01:05:26
Speaker
um standings didn't really change in the east um even though we were idle so was rugby atl um so nothing no movement there toronto's trying to catch rugby uh new jersey they're both on 30 points now and no one old doyer kind of adrift at this point so yeah just cut the just kind of loose
01:05:47
Speaker
The West, it's still Austin, Los Angeles, and San Diego, but Seattle's doing their damnedest to climb back in there as well. And Houston's actually not that far away either. And unfortunately, I don't think it's going to be the Utah Warriors year. They're also kind of now adrift, even though they got our boy Paul back, but still.
01:06:08
Speaker
Sad, sad. Jackals definitely are not going to do the LA thing. We know that. Right. We know that. I don't know much, but I know this. I know this. So we'll see how it goes.
01:06:22
Speaker
New England is back in action this weekend, traveling back to Hobo and playing, playing at that. I mean, here's the disadvantage. We've played there before. It's not a new thing now. Now we can kind of settle into a routine. So knock on wood. Everybody comes out of this one in good shape and we'll be ready to come back home.
01:06:43
Speaker
Okay, so that is that. So we are going to head over to fancy corner, we're going to be welcoming back, start set for the prem and all that good stuff. We'll recap where everybody sits in super rugby, as well as Champions Cup Superbrew, which
01:07:06
Speaker
Evidently, we're quite good. Yeah, who knew? I mean, we, as in the Champions League. They say the league. So, all right. Good on you, boys. So, we'll be heading over there to chat about that. If you're not the fantasy types, then we will catch you next week. Other than that, enjoy the rugby. Welcome back to the crowd and have a good one, everybody. Later.