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Season 5- Episode 32- Don’t Miss Us Too Much (Champions Cup QF & Super Rugby Round 7)
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It's the last episode before a short break from TFRY. On this episode we are talking about the Champions Cup Quarterfinals. What can be done logistics wise to make it not so predictable what will happen in these fixtures with the South African clubs? Of course, we wrap the brief week there was in Super Rugby, including one big boneheaded play in Melbourne. Yes, we revisit Fort Quincy and the performance by the locals, and the run around the rest of the MLR. Kick back with those feet up and join us friends!
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It is.
Introduction & Banter
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The Fantasy Robias. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion. Collusion.
00:00:27
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Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. We're in. Let's go. Uh, not so much rugby to talk about, but important rugby to talk about just the same. Yeah. Freejax wins always important and always for discussion. Yes, but we'll get there as important, but first things first, I need one of these. It's been a while. I'm actually healthy. I know. Stay on the side of the dirt. It's usually a good start.
00:00:57
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Support for George: Fantasy Rugby Geek
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pay your, pay your dues there and help them out. Um, I don't see George in like a week. Yeah, you will. That's pretty cool, huh? Oh yeah. I just heard our song last night. Yeah, you said that. He's like, Oh, it's our song. Um, so yeah, make sure you're supporting George there.
Tennessee Political Expulsions & Racial Discrimination
00:01:53
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As always, there is no discrimination on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. Nope. We want to discuss the Tennessee three, not the Johnny Cash ban, but the, I really want to, we could at a later date. Um, but we do want to discuss the, um, politicians in Tennessee that were expelled for pretty much standing up for what everybody else is kind of fed up with.
00:02:19
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Yeah, like we're and I've seen a bunch of like, obviously, the the far right ceiling was an insurrection. No, no, no, they're not trying to overturn anything, not trying to stop any government business. They're on government property saying, hey, we need you to take care of this. Like we're done getting shot in schools. People are fed up with it.
00:02:39
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Finally, it's like, it's taken to this because they, you know, they, they, this, this hasn't been a new thing. And fuck, if you're out there listening to us, you're likely in a place where this doesn't apply to you. So it's like, it's unthinkable for some people that we don't, we shouldn't live with this stuff. I can't, I'm at, I don't get it. And so yeah, but ultimately like they, there were three of them who, who went to the protest to young black men and
00:03:09
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A white lady, of course, though, the white lady got to stay and the two black men get expelled. One of them sent back today unanimously. Yeah, he got reinstated today. Yeah.
00:03:23
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And the other one I think is coming up, but it's like. And first off, they think these are two young men who sound like preachers. They are. I think they're both are. It's like they're they know how to they know how to do this and use this for gain. And ultimately, it's going to backfire because now everybody's looking into, OK, who are these people who kick them out and finding out some serious shit? One of the more doesn't live in the district that he represents, which is against the law in Tennessee.
00:03:52
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let alone like, you know, against the constitution. So he can't legally do it. And he might be facing, you know, prosecution for it. Of course, not in Tennessee, because they will never prosecute Thoreau. Why would you do that? Right. You're Republican, you can do whatever you want. But we'll see, maybe this is the start of change, because at least in, you know, in states like Tennessee, people are just going to get
Gen Z's Political Frustrations & School Shooting Drills
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fed up with it. And that's that's it. And to add discrimination onto that,
00:04:22
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It's just going to, it's going to make that even worse. Um, so it's like the thing is now it's not just like morally ethically wrong. I mean, I mean it is, but it's not just that there's now we're looking at repercussions for that kind of behavior in public. Like the voting public isn't just going to be like, Oh yeah, this is all good for that for much longer. It's not going to work.
00:04:47
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Gen Z is common to the voting booths and it's. And they're all annoyed. It's not pretty. Yeah. Like this is the first generation. Like, did you have to do active shooter drills in high school? Yes, in high school. So I never had to do it. And I'm like the. You know, fleeting edge of the millennials last bit of the Gen X is depending on depending on. Yeah.
00:05:15
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it's like that wasn't a thing. Like I was in college when Columbine happened. And even though there had been school shootings, that was like the one that
00:05:26
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really started people being like, oh, okay, this might happen. And it's only gotten worse since then. Like, I think about the kids that I coach, and they've always had to do that. And what the hell kind of life is that? Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, same for me. Like, what are you thinking you're doing at some point? So it's common. Looking forward to it. Hopefully we still
00:05:46
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are all alive by then. That'd be nice. Because it's even the word, like they're fed up with not just the Republicans, but the intransigent Democrats who are like, yeah, no, I'll just keep things the same. Like that's not going to fly. That's not working, dude. So again, discrimination, even discrimination, just not going to matter. Yeah, there's still going to be some racists. They always are. But there's less all the time.
00:06:13
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They're just, we're giving them way too much power and hopefully we can rest it away from them. Yeah. Let's do that. I think that's a great idea. One should grimey twats. Seriously, like what the, what the fuck? Exactly. Exactly. I mean, those, the hearings on, they're not the hearing, but the floor debate on, on the expulsion of the, of, of these guys. What's ridiculous. It was just loaded with dripping with like.
00:06:43
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How can I be as racist as possible without outright saying it? Come on, guys. This is going to live on the internet. Everything but, you know. Right. All but saying the words. Yeah. One guy, I'm sure, wanted to say uppity and stuff like that. And it's like, they're like, yeah, go for it. See what happens. Yeah. Right. Like, fucking I was talking. Right. This shit's got it. Right. Get out of here.
00:07:11
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It's like the worst part is, you know, as always, why are white supremacists always like the worst representation of like people, like they're always like, you know, like
00:07:28
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You know, I mean, there are some jacked ones. Yeah. But for the most part, they like either have no chin or are like have like too many chins. It's like you couldn't survive in the world you think you want. So yeah. Oh yeah. I know it. Right. You'd be dead in a week. Like if you missed a meal, you'd be so fucking a. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, um,
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Champions Cup Rugby Analysis
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going into, is it Europe? South Africa is playing in, is it Europe? Well, yeah. Well, anyway, champions cup. Not anymore. They're out now. Um, they're out now. Um, Lester Lester on Friday night in Dublin, our good friend Duncan was there. That was, that was, I'm glad that he went, I'm sorry, that his team did not perform to the stand. They needed to, to get the job done, but man, not great. No. I mean,
00:09:20
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What are you going to do? Stop me if you can. Oh, so so it was actually to me. It's not fair. Just simply not fair because Lester did. We went in with a clear game plan to my mind anyway, which was. Don't let James Lowe beat us and don't let Hugo Keenan beat us. And that's a pretty fucking good plan. If you can execute that plan,
00:09:51
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You've done all right. But the thing is that Jimmy O'Brien and Gary Ringrose said, okay, well, that means you leave us more room. Bye. And they found it. They were ridiculous, both of them. And Gibson Park, like, not fair. Gibson Park was good on the day. Yeah, you still have Henshaw as well. It was one of the better centers in the world. Like, yeah, hard to,
00:10:19
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Hard to find a weak spot in this team. It really is. And it's not to say the lesser didn't bring a good team. They did. Power at 13 was unfortunate. Well, that was probably the worst part of that team. The rest of it, I could totally back, you know, really. And he scored a try. He actually ran a really good line for that try. He did. He wasn't disappointing. It was just, again, another tactical decision of let's throw as many runners as we can out there. Mm-hmm.
00:10:48
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So it was just like, okay, let's see if we can score some points. And they did 24. Hey, 24 points, you know, against Lenster away. Don't care where that's away. Fuck. Yeah. If you don't, you don't worry about like, you're like, okay, like I'll take it. That's it. That's a, that's a good, you know, against their like top score or top players. But then, you know, the 55 fuck we're going to do.
00:11:19
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They heard they were just, I feel like early that was not, that was not helpful too. Yeah. This was like, um, I thought it was a true measure of how well each team played Lester played. They putting 24 points away to Lancer. Like that's a good, yes. That's a good representation of how they play. That's tough. That's well earned. And then Lancer yet there were 55 points. Good. It's hard to, I'm trying to really like hold it against him, you know, so much.
00:11:48
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It is so hard. It really is. That's a tough team to play, no matter where they are. But congrats on last year for showing up. Got good vibes for them for the, you know, I think maybe after this weekend, they'll be second overall. Could be. Could be, could be. In the prem. So like they're hitting the right notes for the prem anyway.
00:12:14
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Yeah, definitely. I'm just trying to find a positive. They've hit better form as they've gone on the season. Obviously, Pollard getting healthy was a huge part of that. A little bit. And then getting Montosia back from internationals in the fall was obviously very helpful. Jasper as well. Oh yeah, Jasper has been... He's been immense. He's been absolutely ridiculous.
00:12:41
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Yeah, between the two of them, those two guys can lead that Lester Pack over the line. Martin's coming into form quite well. Chasm will be back. Yep. And it's amazing, too, to see what they went through now with the visa interview with Jim Hamilton. I don't know how much you've listened to it. Really interesting insight into that as it happened at Lester.
00:13:11
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Um, with Bortho leaving. Um, and, uh, and then Wigglesworth just taking note, like being immediately in, cause he's, he's the next guy. Um, and it was like a lot of, uh, interesting, um, insight into that and how it's kind of fucked up the team, but at the same, look, they seem to be going well. They seem, you know, it reminds me of, uh, of Quinn's a little bit, um, not quite the same style, but.
00:13:40
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And it took them a little bit to congeal around what they're going to do, but I think they've got it. We obviously quins when when Guzy was canned. Right. Right. Yeah. So I did. Yeah, they're hitting the right note, like they're hitting the right notes and. Yeah. They opened in the they started that 10 year.
00:14:05
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without worth with some with some rough patches. I think the gateway would argue that either but they sort of themselves out to this point with the last probably five, six rounds easily, you know, all the way back probably all the way back till the West Midlands Derby. And that was the two previous matches to that were three previous matches really were not awesome up to that point. But then they turned it around. They've read the ship. So give them credit.
00:14:35
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You can create so they'll know now they can put they can put their eyes on something only right now. So Lester's opponents will be to lose and they they they they've been humming too.
00:14:53
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They seriously have. And when you think they're beatable, and actually I'd say this is probably true for lower shells, when they feel like they're beatable, they just put the gas down and they're gone. It's like, no, get back here.
00:15:09
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That's not fair. That's not fair that they have Anton DuPont. No. Five try assists. He kept feeding Ramos when he never had, didn't have to. Both of Ramos' tries were like DuPont saying, yeah, I'm good. You finish this one. Absolutely. I have run enough.
00:15:28
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These are yours. I think the first one Ramos was like almost you know, he almost dropped the ball in shock He's like you really gave that are you kidding me? Okay? That's one of those like I've already scored five tries here you go I mean yet Tupac hadn't scored one. So like he's like wait, really you've had enough. Okay Yeah, he was And it was
00:15:59
Speaker
There was some, there were some players that just like didn't need to show up because they had such good form with other guys like Mayafu, who everybody's touting to go to get picked from France come the fall. Um, Fullmont was a little quiet, but I will say in the couple of weeks since he's had to step up for, to lose, Krosz has been really good for them since, um, Jelanche has been, has been down. Yeah.
00:16:25
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Yeah, I give him credit. Richie Arnold played very well. This game as well. I mean, God, you get Malvaca as your starter and you're just like. Where's Marshawn? Does it really matter matter? Does it really matter? Yeah, the Bell. How the hell Malia passed his HIV? I haven't got a clue. Well, how he wasn't red carded to that to me was was problematic. That was a clear. Head on head, unnecessary.
00:16:55
Speaker
I think it's just caught the brunt of it is the, probably the one thing the referee looked at and it sticks. And so, you know, take that as well. That's how it is. Um, yeah, that, that was poor, but I don't think it really mattered. I think with four, I mean, cause even with 14, they were, they were nearly, they were nearly unstoppable. Didn't matter who's on the field. Really?
00:17:20
Speaker
What was the score line in that yellow card period? I don't think anybody scored. No. Wow. Yeah, because it was eight minutes in and the first try wasn't scored until 26 minutes. Oh, there's a penalty. It was three nothing. Bosh kicked a penalty, which was stupid.
00:17:45
Speaker
Yeah, that was that that was it. That was like you you what you kick in penalties for this is you're in to lose. You're going to need more. And just come over through and be like, Okay, we'll go down again. Well, not necessarily. So no, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Yeah, no, I it was. Yeah, you got to go that is a you got to go for the regular type of type of thing. Right.
00:18:16
Speaker
Like make them really hurt. Like it should have been a red. Make them hurt for it. Bleed them dry. Yeah, at least make them feel like it should have been red. Right. Three nothing in a yellow card period is complete. That's a let off completely. Yeah, it is. It is. So I give the Sharks credit for a lot of what they had to do in this comp. And that's not necessarily a fault of their own. But I think there's issues overall.
00:18:45
Speaker
And we'll get to it with the stormers, especially in a second here overall with, with the South Africa teams in this competition.
South African Teams in European Competitions
00:18:51
Speaker
I'm not saying I want them out. I'm saying there needs to be some better solutions. Yeah. The travel either way. It's like either way, especially once we hit the knockout stages, the travel is a, is a, is a loss for the visiting team. And no matter who, yeah, that's right. And that's not like either, you know, yeah, going either way. And that's.
00:19:14
Speaker
Yeah. Then why are we, then that's a lot of money to invest in it. So what are, you know, how does that, how does that work? Yeah, there needs to be some answers given here. That's all I know. Speaking of, we'll talk about briefly the stormers visiting Devin. Same thing.
00:19:35
Speaker
And even worse, because, you know, it's like you listen to the travel that both these teams, but especially the stormers had to do like. Right. Three different trip, three different planes and then a bus or a train down to Devon Lake. Yeah. Yeah. Not fun. But yeah, it's it was they clearly came out flat. I don't think anybody would question that.
00:20:00
Speaker
Well, yeah, Exeter had like 76 percent possession the first 20 minutes or something ridiculous. It was yeah, it was just and I mean, yeah, it evened out 56 44, which is not all that even. But then that was after the stormers woke up for a little bit. Right. Like you could see. Wilhelms had had the intent and Loubac a little bit as well.
00:20:25
Speaker
Uh, not starting damn money. I was kind of scratching my head on that one. I didn't get that. Yeah. I don't know. You got, that is your best player right now. I would definitely stick him in there. Um, I'll get, you know, you got to give Steven kids off a shitload of credit. He, he was working so hard to keep his team in this thing and just dying for his team. Really? Yep. And.
00:20:52
Speaker
not to be so i folk practice even kicks off and man what a what an asset that is and it's too bad they're gonna lose him because what a great what a great player he is yeah he showed some others but that was uh yeah but he
00:21:09
Speaker
He was one of the forwards who really showed up. There weren't many others. No, there weren't many. Like I said, Deimani should have started. Yeah. And this is a match. Exeter, anywhere, is where your forwards have to shine because they're going to be making a lot of tackles. Although Exeter, I thought, did a really good job of spinning it wide. Simmons on the wing. It's interesting because he usually gets to run wherever he wants.
00:21:39
Speaker
This match, they kept him all the way out there and fuck. I mean, why, why, why take him out of there? It was working. Yeah, it's fine in space.
00:21:48
Speaker
It really was. Even if he wasn't the one running it, he was helping find space. It was unreal. He only had 39 meters carried, but it felt like he had a hundred just because of all the space, like just because of the space he had. Yeah. And he was, he was finding offloads and right. He was right. Yeah. He was helpful. Technically he was only credit for one offload, but point being like, yeah, when, when Sam Simmons has the ball on hand, he's taking two tacklers with him probably. And that just opens up so much space for people around you.
00:22:18
Speaker
Yeah, it was a good spot for them to put him and he never left so Worked worked rather well for their sake. I Dare say they're not gonna have the same luxuries the next round though Because la Rochelle ain't gonna walk around No, they're not and like that. They didn't with saris. I didn't like that much
00:22:42
Speaker
I, I was, I was nervous going into it. Obviously. Um, I was kind of passive on it. I was like, if we win this somehow great, but I don't know how we do it.
00:22:52
Speaker
Yeah, again, we didn't. And overall, I have to say overall, the only referee I was satisfied with on the weekend was Reynal and even that, you could take a little bit with a grain of salt. The other three were horrid. Praise was awful. Praise was terrible. Amish and Kelly was terrible. Skin Dick was terrible. Like, right.
00:23:15
Speaker
Yeah, which is it's so funny for me to say Raynall was the best one, but he was. Right. And I don't like it's fucking with my complaints about MLR referees at this point, because I don't know that these guys would be better. I don't know that Andrew Brace would be any better than any MLRF we have. I don't he's he was awful.
00:23:42
Speaker
Like you said, he decided who was going to win and that's how it worked. Did the Saracens do enough to do otherwise? No. No. No question. And to be fair, he wasn't. He did call summon fractions on LaRochelle that I was like, oh, wow. Okay, good. He called that. That's nice. But it was just so inconsistent. And if Saris took advantage of it, that would be one thing. Like, if you
00:24:09
Speaker
get that penalty, that's the shock penalty. You put it in the corner, you mull it in for a try. All right, now we're talking about the, you know, where we can complain a little bit about the ones that we thought we would get that we didn't get. But that didn't happen. So it's like, okay, when he gave you here, okay, here's an opportunity. Like, I'll disallow
00:24:33
Speaker
Uh, um, the, uh, LaRochelle from, from this, what do you got? And so I was like, oh, we really don't, we don't have much. Unfortunately. Yeah. I mean, when, when Alex good's running, well, they're basically directly into, um, will skeleton, like that's problematic. Yeah. What are you doing, dude? He went way too much into contact and got smooshed backwards. Um,
00:25:03
Speaker
Yeah, and the little things that need to stick for series didn't stick didn't know. No, I had no problem really pushing it to. Right. I had no problem with trying to open it up and and look for things out the back and whatnot and just try try things because everything else was not going to happen. Right. The thing is, if you go out the back. That guy's got to get around the defense and what's happening was they would wait till late and throw the out the back ball that everybody knew was coming.
00:25:34
Speaker
And that guy would get smooshed and then there was no support at all. Nope. So it's like, okay, stop fucking doing it. Now you're just, you're not really going out the back. You're just shoveling shit and causing a turnover. Like they were, the execution was extremely poor. And that's what was giving La Rochelle all this access to the ball.
00:25:55
Speaker
So yeah, it was, that's why, yeah. They were happy to oblige. Right. They're like, okay, we'll tackle that guy who's behind, you know, behind your support. Sure. Fine. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. So.
00:26:11
Speaker
100% earned for La Rochelle. For me, as the series was a good learning lesson. A lot of these guys had been there before, but there was still a good chunk of them that this was a number one. This is a totally new experience for all these players, because none of them had been to the stadium with few exceptions. And most of this lineup hasn't experienced this stage of Europe, this knockout stage. Not sure Earl has.
00:26:38
Speaker
No, he really came to prominence once they returned. I mean, he started, he started a little bit before, but challenge cup was probably the only thing you'd say for him. But still, it's, it's still a different level. Right. And then Tizard obviously wasn't with the team. Nope. But she wasn't with the team and certainly never saw this. Nope. Van Zell, who I thought played all right.
00:27:02
Speaker
Yeah, Malins wasn't a locked in starter. No, he wasn't where you see a lot of the guys you write. A lot of the guys you're counting on are playing up a lot of level.
00:27:12
Speaker
Even though some of them have played international, it's not a tough point. It's still a different environment. I mean, those fans are on top of you in this too. And they're in your ear, which is great. It's an awesome atmosphere to hear on TV. That's the stuff you want without a doubt.
00:27:35
Speaker
I'm, I'm whole, I'm, I feel good about it. Um, a lot of did have herself a big pooper though. Huge Cooper. Like I think it was, um, after one of the tries, I saw you said better Earl, just go up to him and be like, get the fuck up. And then like right after that, I think Richie missed a tackle. It's like, yeah, okay. It's a different experience for some of these players. And that's just how it is. Yeah. You know, and some, some will thrive in some need a learning lesson. And that's just right. That's where it's at. So I.
00:28:05
Speaker
I'm glad that they got as far as it did. And I feel good about going forward. Yeah. Yeah. This is a good return to champions cup. Like, yeah, certainly saying like, yeah, we're here to compete. Absolutely. No, no shame in losing away to, to the side. No, no, no, not to this team. Well, let's jump over to the Southern hemisphere and we'll do some super super asking.
Moana vs Crusaders & Referee Decisions
00:28:35
Speaker
I'm super, thanks for asking. Crusaders in Moana in Christchurch. And I have to say, if Moana could bring this every time, they won't be on the bottom.
00:28:52
Speaker
And they'll be, they'll, they'll start to tally up some wins against teams, not named the Crusaders. Right. They, they, they really, they were doing really well until about halftime. And then the, uh, that yellow card to, um, Curry. Yep.
00:29:12
Speaker
That was it. That was me. And that's how they lost. Yeah. You know, sorry. I mean, you know, not to pick on Michael Curry, but it's like it's anybody you get a yellow card in that situation. You're already like. It is known now, even the announcers works, the comms are talking about how, yeah, you know, Moana is putting in like 60 minutes or so. And then after that, it kind of poops out. And it's like, you know, you're only going to poop out more if you get a yellow at 46. Like, yeah.
00:29:42
Speaker
Not advisable. Not against this team. Yeah. And then did they, yeah, they scored at 53 who got, oh, Gardner scored. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Tom Gardner. Yeah. Scott who? Sam who? Yeah. Tom Gardner. I don't know these people. Tom Gardner.
00:30:07
Speaker
It was, it was great. I, I was, I was nodding my head and very, very impressed with the way Moana played. The guys they needed to step up, step up, huge, uh, Tama Talvin, now why I'm over being the two big ones that I think are almost unplayable on their day. They just need to do it a little bit more. Right. And they need a little bit more help. Like William Avili is not.
00:30:35
Speaker
Like there's too many weak points. You got Hevili, you got McClutchy who was okay, but again, you know, Tawala runs that attack. Why not just put him at 10 and find like a different Tawala? Like there's got to be, cause he's basically placed 10. So why do you even have a different 10? Is he just there to place to kick? Well, that's problematic because you need someone who can actually do something else too. So they're just missing.
00:30:59
Speaker
I think you could have Favelli kick at goal if you wanted to. Yeah, but ideally he's not in your lineup. Well, no, but I mean, if I'm going to pick one of the other McClutch here, I'm going to take Favelli to keep and I'll ditch McClutch. That's true. You know, and yeah, you play 12 at 10. Maybe Tafu comes into the center somewhere.
00:31:20
Speaker
or NEC, or yeah, like bring him over to 12, because like, he's basically there anyway. And then, you know, NEC sitting on the bench, I'm just looking at the lineup that they have out here. And yeah, maybe have Haveli kick at 15, and he can commit, but like, they need some a little bit more contribution in that back line. You can't hide out there. No, no, I think. Yeah, there are a couple of hiders. You're not wrong.
00:31:50
Speaker
You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But Crusaders are too much. Yeah. I mean, they are a bit of a machine. They are. They will find a way to win if you give them a chance. Yeah. Even this year, even with their diminished, you know, line up. Yeah. And then line up. Yeah. Richie Mose 100 is a success for them at least.
00:32:15
Speaker
I feel like they were ready to nail that down for him at the very least. He was okay. He was all right. Acceptable. He's bloody good. I don't think there's any way around that. I'd consider playing him on my squad. If he showed up, I'd think about it. Let's go... Really disappointing. Let's go to Reds and Brumby's. Number one.
00:32:44
Speaker
What the fuck, Angus Blythe? Like, what is in the water in that second row territory for the Reds? Between Blythe and Ryan Smith, you've got two of the biggest helmets in SuperRide group now. That group keeps getting carded, too. Yep. He's had like three or four or something like that. He's just being dumb. He's not being an asshole. He's just being dumb. Yeah. Right. But Blythe, what are you doing?
00:33:08
Speaker
Like what, what do you, what do you think's going to happen? And then like that, but it's right after you use your team score to try, you're actually doing okay. You've got them on, you've almost, I would almost say you've got them on the ropes. You've got them thinking about it. Yeah, you're in this.
00:33:24
Speaker
And then you go and do that. You fucking dumb ass. I will say under the, under the new rules, um, the way super rugby is doing things, if that's not one of those out and out reds, I'm not sure what is. So that's why I'm still not a fan of this 20 minute bullshit. That's one of those that if it's going to, if you're going to start instituting like
00:33:45
Speaker
Well, you have a 20 minute red card and you have like an out and out red card. That's one of those that should have been out and out. Like, yeah. Right. First look at it. Yeah. Bye. See ya. Yeah. Well, it's O'Keefe too, so it didn't help. That doesn't because he's like, ah, I don't know. I didn't see any brain come out. So not a blood for me. Like, come on. Fuck you doing? Like dude needs help walking off, getting off the field. Like you had to tell him to sit down.
00:34:12
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. Corey Tool was on another planet. At that point, you know what's happened. You know, all you have to do is see the replay. At that point, you're like, OK, well, obviously he did something if I didn't, you know, and it's possible the ref didn't see it because, you know, you're you're looking. There's a lot to look at as far as onside and what's happening. So, yeah, he might not spy on it, but obviously, you know, the team made it well aware. Sure, the AR is right on it.
00:34:43
Speaker
And it's like, okay, something bad happened here. And we know it's right after a kick. So like, there's really only, it's only dirty play. Like, there's no other way. And then you look at the one replay, yep, red. Like, I don't... Yeah, that's not a yellow card. Or I don't even know if you need to, right. The replay is, is a, did something silly happen? Like, if, like, he tripped and knocked himself unconscious by falling on the ground,
00:35:12
Speaker
and Blythe was near him. Okay, then there's no card at play. But as soon as you see there's contact. Yeah, no question about it. So that worries me in terms of what the 20-minute red is. That should have been a full match red. I don't understand. This is where the laws
00:35:39
Speaker
are really not good with the 20 I like the the yellow and then get it get it looked at later because shorten things. With that yeah and it's not the same TMO looking at they have somebody else looking at it. Right sure that they didn't screw it up or to make sure that somebody you know is sitting for as long as they're supposed to.
00:36:02
Speaker
And there really needs to be, and like, there's got to be something where there's a, you're out and nobody replaces you. Cause that, that's supposed to be something that's able, but that can happen. If it ain't that what the fuck, like, do we need somebody to pull out a knife and stab someone? Like I'm really losing where, where the line is. Yeah. Cause Ryan, Ryan Smith came in. So that was helpful. Right. But it's like, yeah. How was that not a, yeah.
00:36:31
Speaker
No, I don't get it. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The Red's got what they deserve because the Brumby's just bent them over afterwards. The Brumby's absolutely destroyed them. And it was no question. And I'm sure they saw that and put the bit between their teeth and said, fuck this. We are going to destroy you guys now. And they did. Loved no doubt. Good for them. Loved no doubt.
00:37:01
Speaker
Let's see who... I mean, Lola Sia was racking it up off the boat. I mean, you get a try, and you get a try, and you get a try.
00:37:13
Speaker
Tom Wright had 128 meters. He was. Yeah, he was out of the day picking up the slack. Yeah, like you long again got over. Yeah, it was. It was a day. It was a day for the for the Brumbies and they're definitely putting down the marker at the best team in Australia without right. Valentini got going to see that he gets going. Everybody's in trouble, right? And the problem that's the scary part is the Brumbies have been good and he's been quiet. Yeah, just you wait so.
00:37:42
Speaker
Again, the Brumbies have been good and he had been quiet. So he's means they may only get better noise now Flashing warning lights and this is actually a big I mean Reds what the fuck is going on? Oh is like a huge what the fuck's going on because this is not that different a team. Yeah, they're the front row is different but I
00:38:06
Speaker
That's fucked up. They should have been able to keep some of those guys because they were such an asset. Like, that was your strength, even with all those other guys. And that's really the biggest change. You can get their lineup and whatnot. Like, yeah, the Danesander has a bad game. Oh, he was horrible. He was horrible.
00:38:29
Speaker
He was bad. He was very, very bad. Every time the whistle blew and there was an arm up, it was him. Right. One reason or another, I was like, Oh, you are getting over the big guy. Sorry, dude. You done. Yeah. I mean, you're done a loss in Creighton that you're at 10 because nobody else is really working. And I don't like, yeah, you don't want to throw, you really didn't want to throw, um, Lina into this, but it seems like O'Connor is on his way out. So, or not out, but.
00:38:58
Speaker
It's kind of checked out. They got like, why not? I still don't get when I put him at 12. Mm hmm. I don't know. Because like he can do it. He did. I'm pretty sure he played 12 when they won the championship. So yet he had some days at 12. Yes. Right. Because was it it wasn't no to move was on water. I can't remember who was.
00:39:23
Speaker
Oh, they did have Hamish Stewart. Yeah, as well. So there's some guys that they've lost, but damn, they're not, it shouldn't be this, this, like that, those loose forwards, like, give me a fucking, yeah, that loose forward group is absurd. How are you this bad with the group that good? Yeah. How are you two and five with that loose forward group of all that and, and the nine,
00:39:45
Speaker
Yep. And, and your wings, like there's, you cannot know something's wrong. Something's very wrong here. Yeah. Something's going on. Uh, thorny used to start that out or he's going to be looking at a new job here. Yep. That's my concern for him. Yep. Absolutely. And then there was another match and then we can go on and another match, um, highlanders and hurricanes.
00:40:13
Speaker
Overall, I'm satisfied with how the Hurricanes played. Aiden Morgan gets stuck back in and then Harry Godfrey had to come in for a bit too. Brett Cameron, I don't know, he's gotta be back this season. It sounds like he's gonna be back for a while. That didn't look good to begin with anyway, but anyway. They deserved what they got in this. I thought they deserved a bonus point. I fucking hate Damon Murphy as a referee. God, he's bad.
00:40:40
Speaker
Talk about inconsistencies. Holy shit. Could not keep anything straight. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Like Dewey got annoyed with him. And I don't normally agree with Dewey because he's usually wrong. But he was right. I was like, yeah, Dewey's got a point there, actually. But actually, for the most part, grief, he had a good game. So I'll give him credit. Yeah, I didn't like the whole getting up in each other's face thing. And he should. Yeah, so he should.
00:41:09
Speaker
But like, you know, he's almost the third, ideally, if they're, if they're firing at all cylinders, he's the third wheel in that back three back room. Yeah. I mean, between already and Jose, those guys should be getting a lot of attention in space and, and creepy can, can mop up or, you know, as he has been, um, assisting getting them helping them through the line. Yep. Agreed.
00:41:34
Speaker
Yeah. Frickin' Blackwell getting over. That's what kind of match this one. Yeah. I was like, I mean, it's, again, it's highlanders. They're not of. Well, Mitch Hunt dropped late from this match. They had to, they had to put the kid Miller in. That's even more. Yeah. That's even worse. I was like, Oh, you guys are deep shit. Yeah. Yeah. There was, there was, this match could have been better if I, if you were, if you're the highlanders, uh,
00:42:04
Speaker
They had chances and they really didn't. Yeah. Renting got over and that was, you know, a little bit of a poor discipline on, on hurricanes part and a little bit of good play on their part, but really not, not quite what you would want. If you're a highlands fan, I get in one of these Kiwi derbies as well. So you really want to get the better of these guys in a lot of facets, even if you're not going to come out on the right side of the scoreboard. And I don't think they did honestly.
00:42:35
Speaker
Like Umar Gajenson, Thomas was the biggest pain in the ass on the other team. And everybody else was kind of meh. Renton was, yeah, okay, Gilbert. Yeah, Gilbert's pretty good. General Lo made a couple of boneheaded mistakes. Yeah, I'm having a hard time finding guys that really put their hand up and said that they want to be a part of this team. I mean, they were excited when Scott Gregory came back. That's what you need to know about that. Yeah, that's...
00:43:06
Speaker
No. Oh boy. How do I explain this? Not ideal. No. If Scott Gregory is your knight in shining armor.
00:43:19
Speaker
Yeah. Um, I think I need to give you some money or something. Yeah, something like that. Uh, but for the hurricanes where I got continues to impress, I don't know. I don't know how you, I don't know how, but how you, uh, but at the same time, how you don't come into the all black squad because it's a long line right now. You know,
00:43:43
Speaker
So World Cup, probably not in this kid's future this year. But once TJ's gone, Aaron Smith is gone, then you're looking at Fakatava and Finley Christie and maybe him. And I think those are the kind of guys that compete for those shirts. Because he's playing, he's playing brilliantly right now and I don't know how you keep him away. And Billy Proctor.
00:44:10
Speaker
and Billy's been amazing. Billy Proctor has been absolutely fantastic. I understand he's pairing one of the best players in the world. I don't give a shit. He's still taking advantage of his opportunities. A long player, a bad player does not take advantage of those opportunities. That's the thing. You know, if, yeah, maybe he's not an amazing player.
00:44:28
Speaker
But he's still clearly a good player because we've seen many a player that has a really good opportunity playing with or next to one of the better players in the world. And they just find a way to spin it. And right. This is not that's not Billy. He's he's playing brilliantly. He's taking advantage of every interspace they're given him because teams are worried about Jordy and to an lesser extent, Ryasi. Mm hmm. You know, maybe a greater extent. I don't know who you ask. But either way,
00:44:58
Speaker
Great, great job for him. Yeah, I it's a young team, so this week's challenge is going to be very interesting, but I like a lot about what's going on and I will just take what happens this weekend and kind of hope that they put in a performance and and live with whatever the scoreboard says, right? That's what I'm hoping for anyway. And then to Melbourne. Real quick, because we had we had a match. And then we didn't.
00:45:28
Speaker
It was close at half. It was. It was a very good match by halftime. Right. It was. And was it actually was it like 1710 or something? Rebels were ahead, I think. Yeah. I'm trying to find the halftime score. 1713 at break, Melbourne. OK. 1713. That's right. Because I think it was like a late. It was a late mall try. I just had it on a minute ago.
00:46:02
Speaker
Yeah. And then after that, it was obviously like 41 points in 40 minutes. Yep. Yep. And you know, they had rebel. So again, we talked about last week with having to deal with teams are learning how to deal with.
00:46:20
Speaker
making sure they have another front rower trained at one of the other positions as well. Right. That's great. And it's letting us not have these instances where it's 13 players because they had taken extra person off.
00:46:32
Speaker
for a depowered scum. Unfortunately, they lost Mafie because he had a compound fracture in his hand. Those that are keeping score at home, a compound fracture means it's broken the skin. That's not good. That's really bad. And then Ulysses had to be helped off. So that was bad news all around. So then they had Telekai in. And then I believe he got bit. And that was the end. And they- No, it was not. Eloft got pinned. Is it Eloft got pinned? Okay. Even still.
00:47:00
Speaker
So that they were in trouble the other way. Yes, I don't know. It didn't matter. He left up in late, but it was 70 minutes and then better. Yeah, it didn't really matter. I just this team turned it on and that was the end. And I will say. To. For the Blues, Zarn Sullivan played really well, filling in as his first receiver, a lot.
00:47:26
Speaker
You saw them use him a lot as first receiver, certainly in the early parts of the scheme, maybe not less so in the later part, because they wanted to get Bodhi into space, which to me makes a lot of sense because... It does make a lot of sense. He's pretty fucking fast. He's got a great foot, which he used to advance. He wasn't great off the tee, but otherwise he used it very well. Yeah, and he's certainly better in space than Zarn.
00:47:53
Speaker
Yeah, I think so too. And Sullivan, not as good as Mark Talia, who, you know, we were talking about, oh, God, you were talking about people who need to be on the all black squad. Um, yeah, he'll, he'll, I mean, he's, he's already capped, but he'll be, he'll be on that one. He should be, he's got to be in the world. They want anything to do with a woke up semi-final final race to be in that squad. No doubt. Absolutely. And Christie, friendly Christie talking about guys that could be the nine, like,
00:48:23
Speaker
He's putting his hand up for a long time now because, again, you're going to have Aaron Smith gone. It's very likely it's easily used sometime in the next couple of years. Right. Whether it's this year or next or whatever. So then you need an incumbent and you don't have one. Finley Christie is probably the closest thing to it right now because he ended the year playing a lot of rugby in the black jersey and he's looking like he's going to be able to do it for a little while longer.
00:48:53
Speaker
Right. I mean, his form has been excellent. He's getting them humming. What more do you want? Like, certainly a guy who can be a starter for the all blacks or or the backup if you have, you know, some of some of the. The the purebreds, I guess, I don't know how else to say like he's not quite there. He's not like the guy you'd want just spark plugging your attack, but he's right. There you go. He's just not the but he's not.
00:49:21
Speaker
somebody you don't want there. He's just like, he can fill it. He's, he, he, it's not like just a guy. I don't know how to describe it. It's like the just a guy of great players. He's close. He's getting there. Yeah. So you'll, so you'll have him, you'll have regard, you'll have Weber. Um, and you'll have fakataba. Those are probably the names you're going to throw around for a while after this World Cup. Right.
00:49:50
Speaker
and some will put their hands up more and some less so. And there'll be likely many other names that come around that we don't think I've read the moment. So that's four years is a long time. Lots of time to do that. But anyway, blues are humming along, getting things back to where they were. And there'll be another, obviously another tough team to take down. And then,
Free Jacks Victory over Chicago
00:50:21
Speaker
We go right down the road here to Quincy, pre-Jackson, and Chicago, and more bad news for Chicago. That's all it was. Yeah. It was not, I mean, it wasn't really, I never felt creaky. I never felt too like, oh, this could go a bad way.
00:50:48
Speaker
It kind of got, it was closer than I would have liked at that many points. Certainly at half. Yeah. But at the same time, I wasn't like, okay, like if they just kind of pull their head out a little bit, it'll be okay. Yeah. And they did. And they did. And because the thing is they were getting so many opportunities, like any line break, they were, they were like so gone and it's like, okay, enough of those. They, they got held up like three or four times.
00:51:14
Speaker
It felt like, yeah, at least two, at least two, at least two, maybe three, probably three. Cause I think it was two in the first half, maybe one of the second, like they weren't like that. They were so close to scoring so many times that it's just like, okay. Like, let's, we stayed out of the bin. Right. And they stayed out of the bin.
00:51:36
Speaker
Didn't still concede 13 penalties, which was awesome. But it was fun talking about that with, uh, uh, with TK. Like, Hey, stay out of the bin. He was like, I know it's true. Yeah. He was excited about it. He was much more excited than mags was mags. Like, yeah, that's nice. Mags was unhappy with the penalty. Can't tell you that much. He was unhappy with that.
00:52:02
Speaker
But they did the job. They got their five points and they were able to run away. This was a less than ideal lineup with Reece playing Tan and Patras. He's listed here. He actually didn't make the lineup, but kind of came in. Right. So that was not a sad process. I mean, you could do worse. Right. You could do worse. And did he get over?
00:52:26
Speaker
the cross kick from Milan. Oh, yeah, luscious, luscious. Oh, what a pop. I was like, I like as soon as he kicked it, I was like, I think I audibly said it was one of those like, wait, did I say that? Or like, just think it was like,
00:52:43
Speaker
There's nobody there. Like, he's like, there was nobody there. Yeah. Ain't nobody home back there. And it's like, you're going to let all the comment. Okay. Fine. Fuck. Go for it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's like, dude, he's got room. Yeah. It's like, okay, here's a free try. Absolutely. It was, it was a gift of a tribe for sure. Aussies run was awesome. Yes. So this is why I was not doing.
00:53:10
Speaker
Right. That's why this is why we want someone who's not Kyle, because I would have been like, you'd have bought that somehow. Do it. The line he ran was not like, and we kind of got almost a straight shot of it. Just our, at least the angle that I had. I could watch him from behind as he like ducked and dived and dodged and dipped. I think there's another dodge in there. Um,
00:53:35
Speaker
But yeah, he, he didn't, it's not like a straight run that he had a straightforward hole. He had to run a specific line, um, with some agility involved and fucking dodged people as he was doing it. It was, it was awesome. Really well done on his part that, yeah, Kyle's not doing what I mean. Started. Thank you. Yeah. Fauzi, Fauzi for prop. Right.
00:53:58
Speaker
Fozzie for the one shirt. You were so terrible to Chris Matina. I love Chris Matina. You and I switched spots for a minute there. We did. It was an important kick. I think it was an awful conversion. And it was one of those, if they kicked it, they were within seven points.
00:54:23
Speaker
I think. Yep. And then if he but if he missed it, it was like, still nine. So it was like, we're still outside the center. And I was like, magic. All right. And it was like, it was right in front of us, essentially. So it wasn't that far away. And the stadium was kind of quiet because everybody's like, whatever. And then I'm like, wait a minute. I so so put I've known Mattina since he was in college at University of Delaware. Right. And
00:54:51
Speaker
And as we know, obviously very similar. We've played it together a handful of times too. Not that he would know me to look at me as I could confirm, but like.
00:55:04
Speaker
he uh like i was just like you know what i'm going to heckle him here fuck it and so i'm just like do it for dollarware and going off on it like all this and i honked it and and the funny thing is Jared's Jared's about to say something and i'm like totally no i got this
00:55:22
Speaker
Yeah And I take full credit for it, although I don't know he's had to have heard me like I said, it was quiet and I can be loud sometimes I don't know if you know this about me Yeah, it was very quiet at the moment
00:55:45
Speaker
And then he got yellow carded and oh yeah, then you say like coach would be disappointed. Yeah, a coach we both had. I was like, Strew and Murray would be disappointed in you. I even said that actually after the game, I don't because I don't think that was loud and whatnot. After the game, I was like, what's true? What would Strew and say about that? And he just like shook his head and he's like, don't comment me with that. Like, yeah, your coaches probably say something similar. You know, I'm sure, you know,
00:56:13
Speaker
uh he probably got the degree from them but that wasn't I don't think it was a bad yellow on his part it was just a it was a team yellow at that point wasn't it yeah right he was just the last guy to make a uh a penalty so yeah make a penalty right it's not like it yeah it's not like he got outplayed by anyway he played really well um got that offense helping he was filling in for
00:56:37
Speaker
Um cardi who even come on. I don't think so. I don't remember I don't remember being on Yeah, so no, I think I think matina finished the game. Yeah, I think so too. So Unless you went to 15 or something. I don't know like maybe I don't know. Yeah, because because
00:56:56
Speaker
Matina usually or he has played 50 like remember he was playing a 15 for for New York when. We tripped him at that. And you need void. Yeah, I remember that one too. Anywho, so the free Jack when stay top to East. The runaround for the rest of the league Toronto open up. At home and lose to New York wolf.
00:57:20
Speaker
Don't be dealing with that. Atlanta beats O'Glory at home in Atlanta that is Houston. Paul the Utah at St. Ricketts Stadium. Interesting. That's pretty nuts. And then Legion, Upset.
00:57:36
Speaker
I don't know if it's upset, but beat Seattle in Seattle. That's that's a big one. That's a big one. You know, that's that that that is likely the top two teams in the West right there. Maybe two. Yeah, certainly two of the top teams in the MLR. Probably two top teams in the MLR. Yeah, at this point, two of the top three. Yeah, at this point. Yeah, so yeah. New England gets to. Go north for a bit this weekend, and then you and I are actually going to miss the one back here against Atlanta.
00:58:05
Speaker
When is that? That's the 22nd. No, I know. I'm wondering what time it is. I guess Atlanta. 3 p.m. Yeah, I will def. Yes. Absolutely missing that. I'll be at a at a tournament and you'll be in another country. Yeah. But we get to refresh ourselves when we come back with New York. Well, that'll be fun. Yes. So it'll be
00:58:36
Speaker
Quite a good one. 30, 30. Is that? Why am I struggling with that day? Is that a Sunday? It must be a Sunday. I think so. Yeah. My brain, my brain doesn't compute. Yeah. It's a Sunday. Okay. Good to know. Lame. Saturday game's better.
00:58:55
Speaker
Anywho, and then sounds like we'll have a little bit of something cooking for the month of May over there with a few other friends. So potentially, potentially nothing confirmed. So, but just go that out there for now. All right. And that's what we got. So we are going to be jumping over to fancy corner in just a bit here. We got another comp finalized. Well,
00:59:24
Speaker
hasn't been finalized finalized, but we played the final week of it anyway. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about upcoming weeks for your prem FRD semi-finals, whether you're in the SACO bracket or in the championship bracket. And then obviously you're super ready stuff as well. If you're not coming over there, we do appreciate you.
00:59:45
Speaker
We won't talk to you all for a couple of weeks. For a couple of weeks, we'll miss you. I'm stepping out on you all. I'm heading back over to the pond, but I'm not bringing this fucker with me. I'm bringing the.
00:59:59
Speaker
Somebody I want to sleep next to. Quite honestly, how many reasons that you and I slept in separate beds. We've actually got to keep each other up. Trust me. It's been way too. Yeah. We've, we've slept in the same bed way too many times as it is. We're a little over that at this point. Yeah. But anyway, so a couple of weeks from now, we'll, uh, we'll catch you back here. We'll probably be talking.
01:00:29
Speaker
Um, like final prem standings that are close to it. And we'll also be looking forward to the semi finals of champions cup. So that's what, that's what we'll be on attack on tap. Um, we will have everything out this week though. All the good stuff, all the sheets, so on and so forth. And I might do it. I might fill in for you since I'll have a little bit extra time and do my own.
01:00:53
Speaker
Content that you do arrange some things if I can. Sounds like a good time for everybody else then. Yeah. Time to razz you. But until two weeks from now, unless you're coming over to Dan's Corner, we will talk to you later. We appreciate all the support and enjoy the rugby. Have a good one. Later.