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Episode 036 - Back to Normal
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This week, it feels like boxing day. We're back to normal so we chat about some of the stuff we've been up to and then do the usual deep-dive tangents that you know and love.
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00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode number 36 of Just Shilling. I know it's been a very, very long time since you've heard from us, but ah we're back. And I'm one of your hosts, John Hoffman. And I'm your other host, Andy Bell. And yeah, how are you doing, buddy? It hasn't been, it's been what, literally three days since we last spoke. Yeah. I mean, it's, it,
00:00:25
Speaker
Not that it's not enjoyable. like i do I do enjoy talking to you. but's like nothing Not a lot's happened. you know i feel like and That was also like a fever dream, though, at the same time. it's like I know I just spoke to you three days ago, but it was that was high high energy, high anxiety, high gist.
00:00:44
Speaker
ah It's weird, isn't it? were I mean, we're very much back to normal this week and it feels like um it feels like we've I've survived an apocalypse. yeah I'm just breaking out of the bunker. you know It's kind of like, what happened there? That was that was amazing. you know Big up to Hawes and Steve. Thank you so much for joining us at the weekend. That was such a blast. It's like Boxing Day. That's what it feels like. like Yes.
00:01:13
Speaker
the The hype, the hype has surpassed. passed And now it's like, well, now I just got to clean up the mess that I made in my office. Yeah. Anxiously just destroying it at the same time. Well, but no, it was a good time. I really appreciate those guys hopping on. They you can always like whenever we have a guest on, it's funny because I always feel like I learned something from people who've been doing this for way longer than 36 episodes, just the, the, the, so the, the social cues that picking up and like carrying a conversation and like making it, keeping it engaging, caring, keeping it interesting. Like the give and take of when, when to pause, when to let somebody talk and like how much is enough and to keep it engaging. And like, it's always, it's always very interesting. And I feel like I'm learning a lot from people. So yeah, there's, that's an added bonus. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely. And those guys are, I mean, they jump in, right? I mean, they're, they're committed.
00:02:12
Speaker
Um, you know, it's, it's sure it's our show, but good God, they don't need much prompting to get involved. It's, it's, they were awesome, absolutely awesome. and I'm so grateful that they, I mean, he The idea of choosing a subject matter close to the you know coast close to our guests are is is to is is to engage with them. And like I said, during the episode, to get to know them a little bit more. But they really, really embraced it and were and came prepared, which was awesome. Absolutely awesome. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. But yeah, to your point, it's been it's only been a couple of days. It's kind of like, well, what do we do now? and So have you have you been up so much in the last couple of days?
00:02:56
Speaker
Uh, not me, not really. I've been pretty swamped with work. Um, all those, all those weeks of me saying like, Oh, you know, works light, works like similar to what you, I mean, it's vastly different than what you're, what you're probably dealing with. Um, this is just not critical pressure. Um, but basically just everything kind of coming to a head at once. And then it's also partially my own fault, like seeing something to be get delivered. And it's like, Hey, you guys know that's like not right. And so then I got to get involved and.
00:03:27
Speaker
Cause that's my own fault for doing that. And uh, but yeah, it's just been, it's been super busy. Um, just prepping prepping for the yeah upcoming weeks. it's I mean, it's been a crazy busy summer and stuff. We got a crazy couple of weeks ahead too. And just trying to keep our head. I mean, it's a good, it's all good stuff, but just got to stay, stay on top of it, make good use of my time when I can. And so I can have time for outlaws and.
00:03:51
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all the other crap I wanna do on my free time. Yeah, it's scary just how, yeah well, I was just about to say it's scary just how close we are now to winter. There's um so something, but going through a bit of a,
00:04:05
Speaker
Going through a bit bit of ah a warm spell in the UK at the moment, I wouldn't say it's sunny. It's particularly sunny and summer-like, but it's really ah it's quite humid. It's it's quite it's it's ah it's a very, very um unusual humidity that we don't normally get this time of year. And yet, to your point about work, those deadlines I was talking about, we're 12 days away.
00:04:33
Speaker
um from certainly one of the three deadlines I've got. So it's it's just shot by, app despite it being quite brutal, um to to my schedule and my sometimes my mental health as well. But um yeah, were we're we're we're coming to the end of of of of of the first part of that, so um which is something to look forward to. And as such, you know October's not that far away now. Um, weekend after next, I've got plans with the UK contingent of the scruffies. Uh, we're doing another, you know, antique toy fair, um, events. And, and then it's also the, um, as a rerun of the empire strikes back in the local cinema. So we're taking that enough. I've told you this before, but, um, that seemed like a long, long way, a long, long way away, only a few weeks back. And now it's right on us.
00:05:26
Speaker
um And you know no sooner is is there that weekend, no one will be planning for Halloween, and then we're taking a ah week off in November just to recharge our batteries. And then it's the holiday and the end of the year. It's like, good God, this year has flown by. um But like you, it's not an awful lot going on the last in the last couple of days. There are a couple of updates I've got for you. um As I said, you know making firmer plans with the Scruffy Boys as to where we're going to meet, when we're going to meet, you know what's going on, what the itinerary looks like, which is going to be good fun. I haven't had a chance to play outlaws since you and I um it's you and i ah spoke last. um and
00:06:10
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Actually, let me rephrase that. I did play a bit of Outlaws, but I completely lost everything, all the progress I've made. So what I did was after we spoke on Sunday night, I couldn't get to sleep. So I thought, I'll tell you what, I'll just slip out. and play an hour or so of yeah of outlaws and run around you know running around Akiva, the new the new planet, and find out what's going on there. And I got to the... I then but started finding myself, going getting a bit drowsy, looked at the clock. Yeah, it's two o'clock now, it's time to time to... Now you're feeling drowsy, now that's your body saying it's time to go to bed.
00:06:48
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And that you know that adrenaline high that I had from recording with the with the gents um was kind of wearing off. um And in loading my get in saving my game, I loaded a game instead. So her lost yeah yeah yeah so I lost everything.
00:07:07
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All that progress I've made in an hour, which was fine because I probably wasn't at peak performance anyway, but it was a little bit annoying at the time. so i haven't So the net result is is that I haven't played any more outlaws since we last spoke, or certainly made any progress since we last spoke.
00:07:24
Speaker
um And the other thing, I don't want to go into it too much, but it's quite it's quite funny. um i don't You know I don't do an awful lot of social media. I use Facebook, as you know, for keeping up with family. um I typically um use um X to keep up my side of the agreement between you and I in that I'll use that to promote the pod while you focus on um
00:07:56
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um Blue Sky. And then, of course, the the normal stuff I like to talk to you guys about a little bit more privately and a little bit more of a close circle i'llll I'll do on Discord. Anyway, I was looking into i was posting up um the episode ah my Monday morning um and I just had to look at my profile. I thought, oh my good God,
00:08:18
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I don't reach out to people. I'm not um not particularly prolific when it comes down to looking for followers or anything like that. I just just do it to to follow the people that I'm engaged with. I don't right use the platform for anything else. am my my um My follower counted quadrupled and I thought, oh my God, this is a shock, um and i surprise but a surprise, but a welcome one.
00:08:47
Speaker
And then I actually looked into it and um I have in the last two days removed over 160, maybe nearly 170 followers. Let's just say that the people that were following me have never posted, number one. um And number two, they all seem to have been created in 2023.
00:09:10
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within a three month span. So it just seems so ironic that nearly 160 people, 170 people that decide to follow me all seem to have joined Twitter or joined X within that three month window, which, you know, I don't believe in coincidences. Um, and then lastly, should we say one or two of them on their profile pic hat on my profile had a link to a rather, um, inappropriate, um, and raw base website yes yes yeah so um back to normal back down to my my my my ah huge base of 60 70 people ah which I feel comfortable with thank you very much um but yeah now I it's the first time I've ever experienced today it's the first time i've I've ever experienced anything like that and I was I was I was in two minds you know do I do I do I keep them do I keep them there on my account just so I look as if I'm
00:10:08
Speaker
getting really damn popular these days, and I thought to myself, no, because if any of my mates actually go in to have a look at the people that are following me, they'll think I'm some sort of ah deranged old fart that probably needs some sort of therapy. Anyway, so so they' they've all gone. um So everything, everything. What am I going to do with all these millions, these millions of dollars I'm going to get from going viral?
00:10:33
Speaker
Yeah. So everything, everything, not only after Sunday, but everything is very much back to normal, with the exception of one thing. And it's a really good bit of news. And I hope you haven't read the shared notes that we shared together. I did not. But Lucy found out today, she went to a conference today as part of her work. And I think I've told you before, she works for the NHS, the National Health Service. But she contracts an awful lot of the work that she does to them. So she's not she's kind of like um she runs an awful lot of the ah what they call primary care networks which is basically a bunch of networks of doctors doctor surgeries that that that come together to pool their resources and pool their funding and she kind of manages those those kind of institutions. Anyway, she went to a conference today and found out that she's eligible for a Costco card
00:11:23
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yeah yeah
00:11:27
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let's go So i was taking her I was bringing her back this evening from the train station because he took she took the train into into London for the conference and then we were talking about it and I screamed at the top of my voice which I don't think went down particularly well with her and then I explained to her that it was something it was my life's ambition to go to Costco and i explained I explained the conversation that you and I had had on it and the the fact that we'd spent so much time on ah on ah on a pod recently um or an episode recently talking about Costco and the benefits of Costco. and Then I got to look at my phone and to look at the photographs you sent me, ah even the one where kind of you locked Malison in that shed um and so on and so forth. ah and ah She's up for planning a trip. Because as I said to you, my nearest Costco is about
00:12:16
Speaker
and at least an hour away, um but she's up for us having a having a instead of having a date night. We're going to do a trip to Costco, so I am stoked and made up by by that latest news. so there's there's goods It's basically how it was before, but there's been a slight change. It sounds like She's taking you on a date to Costco instead of the other way around. So now we're we're back on the rails. we're back We're going back to Costco and you're gonna shove that card in their face and be like, ha, I can get in. I can get in. Roll out the red carpet. My wife can get in and I'm and i'm here as her bodyguard. Yes. we We can get in. Now where are the hot dogs? So I'm curious, are they $1.50 over there as well?
00:13:04
Speaker
yeah I mean, I don't y don't know if you know yet or not because maybe you'll have to I've never been there. I've never been excited so so i'm I'm gonna I'm I am gonna film I'm gonna turn it into a into a vlog actually I'm gonna um Andy sorry the bells go to Costco is gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna Just provide you with constant updates on our experience um I'm very excited. So my my one piece, my one request is to see if they sell, if they have the hot dog and Coke or soda, uh, combo, because I know there's like a famous quote from the Costco co-founder that says, uh, of him saying, uh, if you raise the price of the effing hot dog, I will kill you. Um, so that's
00:13:55
Speaker
Like it's kind of like a joke. It's always a dollar 50. I think it's a dollar, like a buck 50 for like a hot dog and right soda. So I'm curious if that applies over there. is that that is that it is is Is the hot dog and soda like a tradition of Costco in the same way that the meatballs are a tradition of Ikea? I think it's becoming. Do you understand what I mean by that? like Like the tradition as in every time you go, you got to get one.
00:14:22
Speaker
Well, no, no, no. I mean, Ikea is all over the world should in the restaurant. They should be serving up um meatballs, Swedish meatballs. I think that's what I'm trying to get you to check on because I know they they have it everywhere here. And so like and I know they're adding more like they have these like these chicken bakes and mocha smoothies and pizza like their pizzas are giic gigantic and you can get them too. But the hot dog, the hot dog is like the staple.
00:14:49
Speaker
Like the, the hot dog and the soda combo for a dollar 50 is, is like, and they can raise prices on anything except for that. So I'm curious up over there. If it's the same rule, i will you can get a hot dog and a Coke.
00:15:03
Speaker
I will report back to you, sir. I promise you. But no, I'm stoked. I'm stoked, mate. It's even, you know, I don't even care if I go there and i'm disappointed now. The fact that I can go now, I'm absolutely stoked. I really am stoked. No one wants to feel like they can't, they're not invited into the club. It's like, it's not even the fact that like, I don't even necessarily want to go. I just want to not be told that I can't come in. Like, if you tell me I can't do something, I'm going to be like, we'll see about that. Um, so yeah.
00:15:30
Speaker
Yeah, that no, I feel I feel very, sit very superior at the moment. That actually reminds me of a piece of an update I have. I remember what it is now because of your Costco story. And I'm but dude i'm so first of all, I'm so excited. Let's start. I don't want to move forward yet. That's awesome. I'm excited. Do you have a date yet? Or we no is it? No, so we've actually waiting it.
00:15:55
Speaker
we've got We've got this weekend coming up, and this weekend we've got Workman coming in, laying new carpet down in the in Lucy's office. um and Then that should be nearly, nearly complete. On a Sunday, there's a few things that I want to buy. butre going up We're going to a um a retail park near us. um And that is because there's a particular lampshade I want for that room to kind of finish off the room nicely. we'll We'll wait for things like blinds and stuff. That will happen when it happens. And then the following weekend, obviously, I've got the the the visit to the um with the scruffies. um And then I'm away with work the following week. And then the following week, we have a visitor, as you know, coming to the UK.
00:16:44
Speaker
um but that I've volunteered to be their taxi driver for a couple of days. um So it's gonna be a while till we go, but good God, once all this other stuff gets out of the way, oh, and on top of that, I need to finish off the garden. I haven't finished off the garden yet, and in fact, I didn't get a chance to do... One of your stools at Costco that could help you with the garden. Just saying. Yeah. Who knows? Finish the garden. Don't get in trouble.
00:17:12
Speaker
Yeah, I think I'll finish the garden first. I'm scoring so many brownie points at the moment, especially with the office that um I don't want to rock them eight the boat. Yeah, exactly. yeah Exactly. and i think I think, no, no. well will it'll It'll be an it'll be ah an October thing. it'll be and It'll be a late October thing that we that we when we go. And it'll be just the two of us, and we will have a magnificent time. And then we will all hail Shaun Hoffman for sowing the seed in my brain in the first place.
00:17:43
Speaker
I cannot, I will not be held accountable for the potential receipt that comes from it. So like, I inc encourage them. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. But I am not, I am not responsible for the mistakes that you make in decision making while you're there. No, no, no, don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. We're good. We're good. So tell me your news that you'd forgotten. um So there's two things actually. One of them is really like, one of them is just like a tip that I, that ah something that I never knew and then we did it and it turned out really well.
00:18:12
Speaker
so I've never lived somewhere that's had like a like a like a like an old paint drop off like a like a can of paint that you paint your walls with. um They're like, oh, you can instead of like because you're not really supposed to put them in like the garbage because they can have no stuff in them. So they like. we Yeah. Yeah. theyll So like you have old cans of paint and so you organize this thing once a year, whatever. There's companies that do it. They'll say, like, come to the school and drive this thing and you can drop off your old paint.
00:18:42
Speaker
But the thing is, the thing I didn't know and that Madison clued me into and we went to was she's like, they also like, they go through all of it. And some people or some companies or retailers or whatever will donate stuff that like they don't carry anymore. Or maybe it's like an old paint code.
00:19:00
Speaker
Um, or whatever it's like, it's like old stock. And so they go through that and then they bring them to these events and you can go and get free paint. So like, even if it's something like you can get paint that somebody bought and didn't like the color of, but then never returned to the store. Or the real, the real key is, is like hardware stores will be like, Oh, they have a new formula for this. So like, donate these like 60 cans of like, Oh, cool.
00:19:24
Speaker
So we went there, I'm like, this is gonna be dumb. This is gonna be like one of those things where you go and it's gonna be like, oh, you can get a half a can of the worst color green in your life. No, no, it was not. um They had palettes. I'm telling you, palettes full of brand new, unopened like exterior stain base that you can go and get tinted. Wicked. we walk We walked out of over there with like 14 gallons of ah paint that I don't even know what we're gonna do with half of it yet. You didn't pay a dime. but Not a dime. They write, they write our name down on an iPad and they say, thanks for coming. And they loaded it in the car and we drove away. It's like fantastic. Like we, we've got a couple gallons to do like some of our, like our, our, uh, dump room. That's a whole, that's a whole story we should talk about sometime. Um, and then we got a bunch of like, I think we got 10 or 11 gallons of just exterior stain base. So that way we can take it and get it tinted and do whatever we want with it.
00:20:23
Speaker
And like I looked it up and it's still good. Like it's not like it's defect everything like that. So pro tip, if you have those, if you hear about that stuff, check them out. Cause you can get like $600 worth of paint for free. And it's awesome. It's all because, and it's all because it's end of line. So it's perfectly good paint. It's just a case of the codes changed.
00:20:43
Speaker
Yeah, it depends. So the ones that were donated, like the ones that we got in bulk, like the the the base, that's what what what happened. They came out with a new line of like combined new, new formula, new paint code. And so they just got they they took them off of inventory and had everybody donate them. And so because it's cheaper than shipping them back to the manufacturer, the manufacturer doesn't want them. And so and you can't dispose of them. Well, they' it's probably say it's probably sell or a return anyway. So the manufacturer would be like, we won't bill you for them.
00:21:13
Speaker
As long as you register them and we consider them destroyed in the field, then just get rid of them. Just get rid of them. That's really cool. That's really, really cool. It's like, sweet. That's fantastic. The other part is good. I was amazed at the number of people who were going there and dropping off paint. They had semi trucks in this parking lot and people just bringing them. It's like, dang, do we all just have 70 cans of paint in our houses?
00:21:41
Speaker
that's cool it was cool to see so that was that that was cool there's there's ah there's a lot of There's a lot of people that have worked for us before in the House. that you know They estimate they estimate what the what the what the materials are going to be and they'll they'll buy the materials which become part of the bill.
00:21:59
Speaker
Now, in the early days, if they're a one-man band or they're an operation that's relatively small, yeah, they might take their and might you know they might want to improve their margins and take stuff back to the store or the the the merchant that they bought it from in order to have a bit of a return. Because I've already paid for it up front. It's all part of the cost of the of the of of the work. yeah But I guess the bigger you get and the more your Returnal investment, should we say, it kind of changes changes direction. Who could be bothered taking about one or two cans of paint? so i'm I'm not surprised, but and but it's a really cool idea, really, really cool idea. A compartment wants to look into what they actually do with all of it. like Because it's a comp it's like a company that goes around, they're like, we... And you can also take this with... Yeah, it's all...
00:22:47
Speaker
I'll report back at some couple months from now and I finally dig into like what actually happens with all that. And like, it's it's cool. It's all ah those neat. The other thing was you were talking about, we were talking about getting into clubs like Costco and stuff like that. So, um, we, you know, we were doing that trail work. We've been doing that trail work stuff, the volunteer stuff. Well, there's somebody we met a couple of weeks ago who.
00:23:12
Speaker
blah, blah, blah. Somebody we met through that. Um, and they happened to be in the area last weekend and they invited us to come to this event. Like, um, like they live a couple hours away, but they were in town and occasionally come to this thing Sunday night after we recorded and we're like, yeah, cool. So that's neat. So we went there and what it is, it's like this. Um, it's like a, it's like a club where like there's these like law Alpine lodges. Um,
00:23:41
Speaker
There's one in like the San Francisco Bay Area, and there's one here. I'll have to send you your a photo of it. I can't believe I forgot to send it to you. But it's like this old Forest Service land, old like lodges from like the 1900s. And you can like, somebody like invite you to come, you can like become a member. And then you get like, use of these lodges. If you want, like you can reserve it. kind of Nice. Kind of a private hotel for dirt cheap. Like,
00:24:08
Speaker
between like 25 to 50 bucks a head so you can like host like 40 people like if you're having whatever it's like dude like they're like showing us around it's like dude can we become members like right now like is that too aggressive because they're because they're trying to get a younger contingent in because it's like a bunch of really ah really old people yeah we're like but they want people to like take care of it's not like a party place it's really meant to be like a place of sanctuary we just happen to live really close to one um it's like dude how do we how do we like How do we like get in, but like not be sound too eager? So like playing this game of like, this is, we've seen this place a million times. We've been up here a million times, but we had no idea what this was. It's like, I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm part of, like, I'm, well, first I was like, what kind of cult? I was going to say, what kind of initiation ceremony? yeah That was my first.
00:25:01
Speaker
But then like the more we talk to them, they're like they just they seem to really struggle to get people because it is all self-sustained. And I'm like, dude, I lived in a place like that in college. like This reminds me of college. I lived in a co-op and we did all our own work. And they're like, oh, here's our big industrial kitchen. It's like, yeah, this is what we did. I'm familiar with this. And they're like, yeah, you got to do some work. But like the dues each year are $100 for a family. It's like, that's it? like what but we taught like what Where do I sign? Because it's up high above the lake and it's on this cliff and it's fucking beautiful. can i Can I join now? Can I become member? can i like How can I get involved?
00:25:39
Speaker
ah and so keep you out that That sounds awesome. I can imagine it. kind of imagine it there' a place in um Washington state called Sunkadia.
00:25:52
Speaker
But that's, I would say, more of a private members club. less of a less of a um I thought it was quite aloof. Do you know what I mean? There's waiter service and all that shit. It's a little bit less um self-catering, more more private members. And i I felt very, very much out of my league because part of this Sankadia club, and they do you know all of the the sports and everything, um is is also um
00:26:35
Speaker
is also um there are private properties in the area as well that become affiliated with the club as well. So it's like these are second homes for an awful or or or winter winter um ah lodges that people buy to go to go skiing um and the rest of it. I'm trying to think of the mountain in Washington, is that Mount Rainer?
00:27:00
Speaker
you know You know what I mean? There's quite a few mountains out around there. I mean, it's beautiful. it's the most It's some of the most stunning countryside I've ever seen. um But that's the that's that's the closest I think I've ever been to anything like that. Really, really impressive. Really, really impressive. You do have some other news.
00:27:22
Speaker
Oh, so let me, let me, let me cap that off. Cause I'm sorry. Join. Then we can have a just shilling friends meetup and Tahoe one year. Oh, invite everybody out. we Can you imagine that? So we're not staying in that my house is going to catch fire. We can stay somewhere else where there's room. It's going to catch fire. Excellent. No, it's not going to catch fire. Cause they don't have stupid electrical stuff like our house has, but this, this would be a good place where there's room for people. Yeah, that would be so cool. We can get Jimmy in the kitchen.
00:27:53
Speaker
Yeah, just grillin'. Yeah, I like it. We could film it. We could put Chris as far away from Jimmy as in the kitchen. So that way, he doesn't have to hear Jimmy talking about the food. How about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. But you do have some other news. I do have other news. Did you, were you lucky over the last week? Did you win something? Oh my God, yeah, I did.
00:28:24
Speaker
it's it's kind of It's getting to be ridiculous. ah I'm very proud of you, by the way. I'm very, very proud of you. I was stoked when I saw it. We we went to this event. um that was so there's ah There's a trail that goes all the way around Tahoe. It's called the Tahoe Rim Trail. We went to ah an event for that where they were kind of like raising awareness, doing fundraisers, and had all this other crap, but they also were doing like giveaways and stuff. Knowing me, I can't i can't help.
00:28:52
Speaker
I gotta, I gotta get involved. I gotta be like, I mean, you can't win if you don't play. So you gotta, you gotta get in it. um And there was. so that as a raffle you know yeah just lot like lots of Yeah, there's lots of prizes and stuff on the table. and like There's other stuff you could like... They had some other things where you could like go do... like Kids could go do activities and get tickets, and then they could use those tickets to get other prizes, and then they had other... and it was like ah The rules and stuff didn't make a lot of sense for a lot of these things, but throw your name in the hat. You never know. um But they had some really, really cool... They had an $1,100 electric scooter. like so like I didn't like win the grand prize, but... like
00:29:35
Speaker
I mean, winning is winning. So I got, I did, I did win something and it was very funny. I won a similar, we were talking about that trail crew stuff a couple of weeks ago. Exactly. I was learning, I was learning how to use the the five and a half, six foot long crosscut saws. And the prize that I won at this event was a mounted anti-crosscut saw blade with Tahoe rim trail and a PCT trail like logos and blazing on this one. It's all mounted. It's got hardware and stuff. And it's like a five and a half foot, six foot long thing. And man, there were some people who are not happy. I bet they did not get that. I bet it may not be. It may not be one of those high profile prizes, but I tell you what, it was meant to be. It was meant to be after the work you just done. It was meant to be. I'm really stoked for you, man.
00:30:26
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There are people who there was two prizes that people were like looking at the people who got them and they were like, not happy. One was us and the other one was like a trail post that used to be out on the trail like that had like arrows and like the the directions on it. Like people really wanted that and this crosscut saw. I mean, I'm sure they wanted the scooter and other stuff as well, but they were like.
00:30:48
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yeah So I didn't pick up on I didn't pick up on the detail from the photos you shared, you shared. So this is an antique saw. you This is not one for you to use. This is a yeah pride saw that is that is mounted. but Yes, it's mount it's mounted to be like a like an artwork kind of thing. Like it's it's a it's a it's like it's kind of it's not rusty, but it's really weathered and it's not like super sharp. But yeah, they mounted it on that side. I think I sent a picture of it like leaning against the wall with the cat sniffing it. It's mounted to that wood.
00:31:18
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Like, and if the woods got brackets and stuff on it, so you can hang it up. And then on the corners, somebody, I don't know how they did it, but they took like a, they made like a metal, a heated metal iron and they emblazoned like both of those trails logos on on the corners. with So it's cool. Cause Madison hiked the PCT and TRTs by us. And that's what we work with. We're like, dude, this like, it's fate. It's destiny. We meant to be, we this absolutely deserve, we deserve this song. Yeah. but No, that's cool.
00:31:48
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It was really cool. Thanks for reminding me of that. I totally forgot. I mean, no I hung it up like two days ago, but I was like, oh yeah, I forgot about that. I meant i wanted i wanted to talk to you about it on Sunday, but it was it wasn't appropriate on Sunday. So I just, I knew that I would, I'd made a note. You've got to ask him about the saw. And I think it's fantastic. And that will look fantastic just above or below your your mounted torn, torn head above the fire.
00:32:12
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Would it go well with the bear that's still in my office? good ah oh a Hey, listen, I'm not going to get into your domestic discussions with your, your better half. So I think it'll go really well um it's a good we good with the with the with the bear unless Madison asks me. In which case, no, it's a terrible idea. man the bear The bear should stay in the office. Just like, just like how your stuff stays in your,
00:32:42
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your shed. Yeah, this ain't going anywhere, mate. This ain't going anywhere. A big part of the reason why we had the office redone was to make Lucy comfortable, but also other part of it as well was the remaining stuff that's not in here and up there, she wanted it out of sight, so I had to create some more storage. So my junk can be put away, so she doesn't have to look at it.
00:33:12
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Coma, what about any use and have you heard anything in two days I've got something I want to talk about one thing I've got one but I don't want to step on your toes cuz I just remembered it so let's hear your news first since you're probably it was only I am well it was only on on the Sunday that we recorded I failed at Outlaws and then went straight to bed. So the Monday morning I woke up and I heard the good news about the the and the um the Emmys in particular. I mean, I won't go through the whole list or anything. I was really, really stoked for Shogun. Shogun had already won 14 of the creative Emmys that um we worked out the previous week.
00:33:55
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Um, but it won best drama series. Um, it won, um, lead actor. Let me just, um, yeah, lead actor. So Hiroki, he, he was awarded the, the, uh, award for best actor, which I'm really, really chuffed about. I'm really, really chuffed about.
00:34:19
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um And then I'm most most chuffed that Anna I'm gonna I'm gonna really butcher names. Is it Anna Sawai or Anna Sawai? She won the the the the best actor Female actor don't like cool. I don't like the word actress but the best the best female actor um in a drama series so I'm really really stoked for them the fact that they were for me awarded for all of the creative stuff that made the the world so rich, vibrant, and believable as being very much set in in feudal Japan. And then to get the acknowledgement of those two actors in particular, but also the you know the the the series itself coming back with the grand prize. um I'm really, really happy. And yeah we've talked about it before, really excited, looking forward to what they do with season two.
00:35:15
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little little bit of trepidation because they've got to create new content. They don't have source material for it, but. Well, it's exciting. It's exciting. They see that they're getting the recognition because I'm not hearing the conversations that I expected to hear with how good that show is. Like I know we. wow Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the time. And we have some friends who are really into it, but like it doesn't seem to have captured the like the larger kind of cultural attention and like to see it like just do some damage at the Emmys. It's like, yes, awesome. I'm not crazy. It is, it was that good and it is getting recognition for how good it was. Uh, it's really exciting. It makes me really happy to see that. Yeah. And I think a lot of that is down to just the, the saturated streaming market that we find ourselves in today. I mean, I noticed, I noticed recently, um,
00:36:15
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our friend Catherine was talking about just how much choice there is. It's almost too much choice. um And you see a series is is
00:36:31
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a good series is appreciated and celebrated, but then you move very quickly on to the next thing because there is so much content out there. If I mean if i read down, you know you've got you've got in the same year, you've got amazing shows like Fargo, The Bear, um The Morning Show, um you've got um Baby Reindeer,
00:36:57
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I'm never going back to that series. But anyway, you've got Baby Reindeer as well. There are only murders in the building. There is so much richness there in only one year that quite frankly, it's quite difficult. It's quite difficult for something to sustain. It's accolade for a long period of time. I think it's compelling enough to no bring you in from an excitement because there's just so much yeah yeah exactly um the other news i picked up on was that um and it it's on um i believe is it empire is it empire magazine
00:37:44
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no entertainment, sorry, entertainment ah magazine, we're doing um preview of um some of the shows that are coming out during the fall and during the winter. And um there's some new shots there of Skeleton Crew, ah which i which made me made me whoop with glee because um I mean they've even said in the article itself it will feature space pirates in a big way which only makes sense right I mean at the end of the day if it's another if it's ah if it's a space goonies and it's a rip-roaring time ah with them with pirates it makes absolute sense that
00:38:24
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pirates are going to feature in a big way, but one of the pictures in particular was um ah a new a new image or a new shot of Jude, which looks great. I mean, he he doesn't look like the scruffy nerve herder that we saw in the trailer and ah crosses across his his body is what looks like a pretty good um flintlock pistol. So straight out of something like Pirates of the Caribbean and I'm a bit of space pirates, i'm I'm well up for that. One of my favorite ever, didn't didn't do very well actually, and but one of my favorite ever Disney productions was um Treasure Planet. I love that o i love that like that. I love the whole sci-fi
00:39:13
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come steampunk, I mean, you know, steampunk, if it's done right. I'm not talking Wild, Wild West, I'm talking, if it's done, sorry, let me correct myself. I'm not talking Wild, Wild West movie, I'm talking Wild, Wild West comic. um if you if if you if you If you understand what I mean by the difference there. But yeah, no, I love love anything like that. And so therefore, because Treasure Planet was is is one of my favourites, I just took one look at this and I thought, yes, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a blast. I read a, I was sent an article recently yeah from some some some people that we know. mentioning I mean, i ah years and years ago, I went through and like made sure I've watched every single disney a canon Disney movie, because I was like, oh, there's something I hadn't seen through certain periods. Treasure Planet iss ah is really good. It's way better than it has any right to be. um yeah But there was a poll that was done, and Treasure Planet was like at the top of the list of like a ah really good Disney movie to watch while you're on psychedelics. The more you know. Thought I'd share.
00:40:12
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That would explain an awful lot. I love it. I absolutely love it. Absolutely love it. um What else did I pick up on? ah The other thing I pick up on, you know, in the theme of video gaming, we might as well keep it going. Respawn, the guys that developed um the ah the Star Wars Jedi series, so starting with um for an order, and then obviously more recently Survivor. They're planning, their they're working on the third ah third um episode of that trilogy, and they've confirmed it's the final chapter. um I hope this isn't the end for Respawn itself, because I'm not quite sure. they was but They were meant to be developing a first-person shooter as well, and I don't know whether there's any news on that or whether that's been cancelled or whatever.
00:41:03
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But I certainly don't want to um don't want to um think that this is you know that now that the trilogy is tied up, I hope that's not the end of it. I actually hope that maybe Cal and that storyline can maybe maybe find its way to the screen as well. We shall see. We shall see. If it doesn't, it doesn't. If they end it right and it toes it ties it up with a nice bow,
00:41:27
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then fair play, but yeah. It'll be nice to see the conclusion to like that arc, like the arc that he was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like a conclusion to that story that he's on would be exciting. It's just bouncing. It's just bouncing so close to that Kenobi story as well. You know, the fact that he's part of the hidden path, the fact that he's found a um utopia or a safe place for them for that for them to hide. It's so so it's so close. um That's the sleeper arc. That's the sleeper arc. I'm still hopeful that it's like, one day it's all going to come together and they're gonna be like, we knew it all along all these other properties. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Andover switches like in your face. But we know we've talked about a million times. Like with backpacks and stuff. It's like,
00:42:20
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Oh, it's all gonna, it's gonna happen someday. They're gonna figure it out. Ooh, I'm hopeful. It's so, it's so close. You know, not everything needs to have connect, not everything needs to have connective tissue with other, with other, with other parts. But um the fact that there is such an obvious association with other properties or other titles that avoiding it kind of seems a little bit pointless. um We shall see. And then the and the last bit piece of news that I picked up, obviously I talked a little bit about at the weekend, was that um Donald Glover interview with um
00:42:57
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There wasn't the New York Times. Who was who was it with? um Washington Post. um they um Yeah, I'm really stoked for that. there's There's nothing more I can add from what I talked about on Sunday. That was kind of the trinity of of of of of pieces of news that I couldn't get through on on Sunday. um But all all really really positive, which is lovely, is which is lovely great.
00:43:26
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Okay, dude, any news from your side? You got one. hit they They announced the LEGO sale barge. um I don't know when they announced it, but it's some it's been in ah but in the zeitgeist a little bit recently. It's ah almost 4,000 pieces. It's going to be $500, releasing October 6th. Absolutely massive. It looks cool. I'm a fan. I will not buy it.
00:43:52
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um the The thing that's interesting for me like it is, this is really just like ah like a secondary thought of, it's fascinating to me how popular the sale barge has become in terms of vehicles.
00:44:10
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like, I mean, it's always been big, but like, obviously, like the the first has lab, this gigantic Lego and like you see it really the Katana really kind of becoming like the go to and like, I always wonder like, is it that popular? Like not this is not a dick. I think it's a cool design. Like, is it that popular? Or is it just one that's easy to translate and can come with a lot of characters? Like, what and I'm curious of like the behind, like the psychological reasons of like, why has the Katana become so big? Like when there are, like it's like Star Destroyers, Katana, those are, and then there's like the Falcon and X-Wing is smaller scale, but like, there's so many Star Wars ships out there that are like recognizable. And this, once again, say it's like, this is not a criticism at all. Like it's it's kind of, it's kind of coming out like one, but it's not. It's like, there's so many Star Wars ships,
00:45:05
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What is, what is the fascination with the Katana? Because it's not, because it's not a ship. it but I think, I think it's simply because it's not a ship. I mean, if you think about, if you think about the iconic, I mean, there is, there is one, you know, there was one, you think about ground transportation, you think of the ATAT, you think of the Katana. Um, and because it's,
00:45:34
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I think it's also because I think the whole think the whole underworld thing is also, and I think an awful lot of that may or may not be down to recent events with outlaws coming out. But I think that I think the whole, when you think about the whole um
00:45:58
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It started with solo, not so much the film so yeah the film solo, but the idea of these criminal syndicates. We always knew they were there in the EU. In in in in the in the in the in the films, it was only the huts worthy were the only crime known crime gangs in the or the ah the only organized crime in the galaxy but you know with with things like the Clone Wars we got introduced to the Pikes we got introduced to um in Shadows of the Empire we got introduced to Black Sun um with Solo you got introduced to Crimson Dawn so all of a sudden there's this kind of interesting underbelly
00:46:44
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um the everyday people. I think that the epiphany of that, or sorry, the not the epiphany, wrong one, the epitony of that when it comes down to Jabba's power is is is the katana.
00:47:00
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um It's more interesting than like his throne his like little throne room. It's like a yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean it's something that you know it it looks sick and it's it's it's different. it's not It's not a space vehicle that hovers. Yes, it hovers, but it's got sails.
00:47:17
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Do you know what I mean? It's like mixing it. It's a little bit like when Dooku's solar sailor, whatever his whatever is his his ship was, the idea of introducing almost old tech or old aesthetics to to a piece of of of of technology. And that that's that's certainly the appeal that I had with um or have with the Katana, interestingly.
00:47:44
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I mean, it is, I'm looking at it now, it's absolutely massive. Interestingly, and I think I've got a feeling it's going to absolutely demolish the secondary market for the original. um hasa or the no No, no, no, the original Lego six model number 6210.
00:48:02
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which currently is on eBay on average of $1,500 or £1,200, £1,200 and it's tiny in comparison. Tiny, tiny, tiny.
00:48:14
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And so when you consider this will be, what, 500 bucks, I think it's 430 pounds in the UK, it's pretty good value. It's pretty good value, although I won't be getting it. I haven't got room. ah Would I get it? ah Yes, I probably would, because it's, it's ah Adam Savage says this all the time, and you know I'm a great, bull I love Adam Savage, but really good to really good design, has a great silhouette.
00:48:40
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and And that the Katana has a really, really good so good silhouette. if you If there were no features apart from the silhouette, you'd identify the Millennium Falcon. You would identify the um the ah the Star Destroyer. You'd identify an Attak Walker. You'd identify the Katana. And that would look mint on someone's on someone's um on someone shelf.
00:49:03
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I would like it.
00:49:07
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but I don't love it. Well, I don't have the room for it, but I also don't love it. Do you know what I mean? I don't have to have it. I can i can wave i can wave i can i can admire it from afar um because even though it is massive, it is enormous, it's a beautiful piece of kit, it's still only single story.
00:49:31
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Um, yeah, I mean, I've got an interesting relationship with the Lego stuff anymore. It's like, I love them. I love when people get them. I love looking at the ones you have in the back. Yeah. But I think for me, it's like when I start getting space constrained, like I've had to start asking myself of like, Oh, what is it that I really like about some of these things? Like I do have my tie bomber back here, but it's like, I used to have a bunch more when I lived in Indiana, but like,
00:49:54
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i got I sold a lot of them because when I'm space-constrained, I want the detail. And that's the thing I've always struggled with with some of these like UCS ones. Yeah, I'd love to have that gigantic Millennium Falcon, but I just don't have the room. And then if I did have the room... Well, dude, you know you know the story behind this. I mean, the the reason why I got the UCS Falcon, because of lockdown. but yeah Well, I love building them. That's the best part. I just wish I could donate. A holiday.
00:50:19
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our holiday had been um moderning um Our holiday had been canceled. um um We got a refund and um the kids were back with us, that they couldn't go to work, so they they were back with us. and um It was something that we did together as ah as a team, um that's ah which is the reason why that Falcon in particular is is not going anywhere. um If anything else needs to needs to eventually find a second home,
00:50:47
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um then so be it, but that's going nowhere. um Yeah, so that there's that that yeah um it looks great. It looks great. And as I said, I will covet it, but I will covet it from a foot from afar. i don't think it's I don't think it's for me. um Did you get the Paz Lab? The big one, like the Katana or the Cantina? The newest one? The Katana.
00:51:18
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Yeah, I got that first one. Yeah. OK. And it's still box, isn't it? It's still box right now. I didn't want to open it until I had it's not like, oh, I'm saving it for the money kind of thing. It's been no. It's not even here. It's in Indiana, honestly. yeah Yeah, I had it shipped there originally because I didn't want it to be here and worry about wildfires. And so it's actually been there until I can figure out a longer term.
00:51:47
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solution for that. And I'm glad I did, because the secondary market for that was pretty insane for a while. I don't know what it's up to. There's always one at cons, but there was like double price. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this toy fair that we're going to at the end of the month, they typically have that or the Razor Crest and typically they're, you know, double the price. And ironically, it was either the last time or the time before that, Kevin and I actually watched someone by one, they actually paid cash. It's like, I'll take it off your hands, which is fair play. But seeing that kind of money exchange hands at a toy fair makes me very, very nervous. But I'll be honest anyway. right so too So Madison, Madison used to work for a company called Days of Wonder. ah They make the game like Ticket to Ride and Small World and oh, cool. Blah, blah, blah. That was where she worked before she did all the stuff she's doing now. um And they're like they
00:52:48
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as a part of that, like they, they came out with like a, basically like the, the has lab version of one of their games at one point in time called like small world. Uh, but it was like this full big box version, yada, yada, yada. Um, and they all the employees got one too, cause it was like crowdfunded. and nice When, when it came time to like leave that job and do some other stuff, like she wasn't a big fan of the game, but I remember that was kind of my first entry point into this kind of world of like, Oh,
00:53:17
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high end specialty products that like a very niche audience wants. And similar to like the that ah conversation about that Katana, like the amount of like just that whole experience of like some like putting that thing for sale. And people were like, I i have to have that. It's like it's a it's a board game. like It took me a minute. I was like, it's a board game, but just was like slightly different pieces like that. They they don't affect the game. It's just like a really fancy version of it.
00:53:46
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um Yeah, it was really it was really interesting kind of opened my eyes to it of like wow that's That's see that's why that's one of the reasons why I mean, I'm not you know me now I'm not sure like coming forward. I'm not you know, I speak my mind um I'd like to think I'm pretty engaging with anyone that but That I meet just out of courtesy, you know, just out of um just out of being polite um but there's one thing that would give me so much anxiety, and that is selling stuff online. We got rid of a bunch of stuff going off a tangent, but you know it's ah it's another Josh Shilling podcast, so it wouldn't be right if we didn't. But we um we yeah we cleared out an awful lot from the old dump room, some of which is good stuff. like
00:54:38
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chairs and by next to a new filing cabinet that I had that was never ever used. It was still a lit shrink wrap, and but it was five, 10 years old because I couldn't take it back to the vendor. I just got rid of it. I took it to a charity store and Lucy said, you're you're an idiot. You could get a good couple of hundred quid for this. stuff as i don't want I don't want the hassle. I don't want the hassle of dealing with the public. I don't want the hassle of managing people's expectations. I don't want the hassle of dealing with something if it goes wrong.
00:55:07
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and Quite frankly, okay, I'll take the hit i'll take the hit um on the original purpose, but with the exception of one or two things, they've been used. We've used them. you know We have actually used them. um and I'll just take the hit. and but In five to 10 years, that's that's pretty sunk cost too. that yeah Yeah, exactly. Exactly. and it's not you know think you know and it's um But yeah, I feel you man. I wouldn't, I don't know, especially when it if it came down to some memorabilia or some, a collectible like that, I couldn't deal with the stress. I just couldn't deal with it. And I'd like to think I'm a reasonably easy going guy, but fuck that. Well, to your point a second ago, like I'm, I'm kind of the same way. I think I attribute a lot of mine to my grandfather was a hoarder of like antiques. Like there was always this like,
00:55:58
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BS line of like, oh, we're going to open an antique store. um But really, it's just collecting hoarding layers upon layers of the display cabinets in their house with just junk with this belief. And I think it cut some of the transition to my dad a little bit too of like, everything has value. But it's like, and kind of pushing me into that mentality of like, it's only worth what somebody's willing to pay for it. Like Exactly exactly at that time and then like also kind of being instilled in me a lot of like your your time is money and like I know people who who sell who will sell like literally anything on this like site called like Mercari or whatever instead of like taking it to Goodwill and it's like to me that is such a struggle I'm like I can't I can't be bothered to take a photo of something Create a description put it online deal with shipping unless it's something of like real value that I want to like try to get
00:56:52
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that I think is worth not donating that could go into Goodwill or whatever and like getting lost in the ether. But like, oh, it's an old jacket. It's like, I'll just, I'll donate it to like the mission or something like that. Or like, that's what they, these models. I'm like, they're like, oh, why don't you sell them? It's like, cause then I'd have to sell them. Like I don't want to sell them. I just want to find, or like but the old black series. It's like, unless I can sell all of them at one time to like, and like not have to do it. Like my time, my time is worth money. It's like, I would love to find a kid I could just,
00:57:22
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give them to, like I've got my enjoyment out of it. I post what i did i paid for and just like, yeah that was worth it. Now I wish I could just give them to somebody else. That's exactly that's exactly what I did. i got i got on Like you, I got on the Black Series game. I also got on the Funko game as well. um I have a little bit, I have my workies and I'll never get rid of my workies. Well, they'll they'll probably fall apart before I even need to consider im giving them away.
00:57:51
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um I have my a few Funkos left, but quite frankly, I did exactly the same thing. And um I took them to a local um children's hospice charity and said, take these take these off my hands. And again, when you think so think about it, we go to cons all the time. you know We go to a lot of cons, especially to see the second hand they use black cereals and they never really fetch anything. If it's our box, it never fetches anything over 10 pounds, let's say 12, 13 bucks. um And even then, that's an inflated premium because you're at a con. um you know it's it's It's just like, I can't be bothered with a hassle. Yes, if I count all of these together, there's probably two, 300 pounds worth there. But quite frankly,
00:58:38
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let these guys either use it or make money from it, from reselling it to, um, the value is not just so it's quite last quite liberating. and it's The value is not necessarily always in the plastic and like the physical item. It's in the experience, the way it may feel for however long you had it and the experience of purchasing it too. Like there's, that's a slippery slope, obviously. But like, I do think it's fairly, I mean, this is me patting myself on the back, obviously, because people can disagree, but it's like,
00:59:06
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I'll buy something and like feel the value of it, like enjoy the value of it. Like, and how it makes me feel like with the stuff in my own, I'm not going to have all this crap forever, but like if it sits in there for. five years. And then it's like, you know, I'm ready to let go of it. I don't need to sell it because that thing still has like, no, um an amortization schedule. Like, of like, how much is it still worth? It's like, no, I got my, I got my value. Like when I bought it, that feeling and we're at a point in time and I want to share that. That's it. that that That's exactly it. You know, at the end of the day, if I, if I got an, if I got a, had a positive experience from the buying experience and the, you know,
00:59:43
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playing with my dollies. And we'll talk a little bit about that in a minute, minute because there's a podcast I listened to this week that that that made me thats really warm my heart. um um Then, then yes, I probably would feel less inclined to even give them away anyway. But the fact is that I'm giving away stuff that's still boxed, because I've got no emotional, I've got no emotional attachment to that in the first place. I could kick myself for buying it in the but for falling down that rabbit hole in the first place. But also,
01:00:13
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It's like, yeah, you're doing the right thing and you've you've you know you're not a junkie anymore. yeah you' not You're not a plastic junkie anymore. It's kind of like, yeah, okay, the hit is painful, but quite frankly, this is this is part of your... this is part of your ah Road to recovery. Recuperation. Your road to recovery, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:39
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No, but it looks great, looks great. Okay, so ah where are we? ah ah Right, so consuming. AKA watching, listening, reading, playing. um Now, we didn't cover this on Sunday, so we have had a week um since we'd spoke about this. um What have you been consuming, mate? I must have admit, despite it being a week, it's not a lot, but you go first.
01:01:08
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um Consumed a couple things. ah little bit stars out So i have a I've played a little bit of Star Wars Atlas, but I've had kind of like an epiphany that I just want to mention really quick. The game isn't as addictive as other Star Wars games have been. That's not a problem. But what it is doing is it's making me want to play Squadrons more. like I haven't picked that game up in a very long time. But what's interesting is like I play Outlaws, and I'm like, you know what? I should really boot Squadrons back up. That game.
01:01:39
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was way better than it had any right to be. And I miss that like detailed fight. It's like, so when I get done with this, I'm going to play that if I ever finish this, when I finish this. But no, I just thought that was interesting. I'm like, I haven't had a good game where you want to play that. Yeah. Yes, good game. It's a really, really good game. And I love the i love the the whole... yeah but It took a little bit you're getting used to, and it was it was mainly because it was on rails. So you think about you know you think about what it was to when you walk around the hangar, you're not walking around the hangar, you've got five directions you can point your character into and to engage with somebody else. um But the experience once you're in the cockpit, flipping brilliant, mate. Absolutely brilliant. yeah And I've heard, I've heard the VR experience is extremely good. Extremely good. um i I might be getting too old for that. Oh, I can't do it.
01:02:37
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like oh Dude, I can't do it. even Even with my new robotic eye, I can't do that. you know i can't i can't I can't do VR. There is some sort of ah imbalance in my brain which may well be self-induced. I've got no idea what it is, dude. But I can tell you now, I do not have a good time in VR. and Of course, in my job over the years, we've had to jump in and kind of
01:03:09
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get behind VR and I just, it's it's hard for me. It's really, really hard. In fact, I'll get behind it. I'll get behind it. I'll be the person behind somebody else. yeah i'll catch Put my hand on the shoulder and be like, I got you. I got you. You got it. Exactly. like This is neat. um Exactly. The other thing. now that ah there is no there that there is so There is something between my eyes, my ear. There's something between my senses that when I'm in a VR environment, it doesn't it doesn't like it. My brain just doesn't like it.
01:03:36
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um And there's a certain amount of claustrophobia that I feel in that environment. yeah I would say it's akin to the way I feel when I when when I get on a long, long haul flight. Anyway, sorry. I mean, what else have you been seeing, mate? For me, it's like the immersion. Like I I'm OK knowing it's a video game. i I don't need to be that immersed. Yeah, like I don't need to be. I don't need to be in the race car looking out the window and there's a car beside me like I'm OK with Like I don't, I don't got that kind of time to just be like, I'm a race car driver today. Although I do see those internet videos of people with like the full like room with the aircraft, uh, like 19 monitors and the whole, the set up that like shifts all around and they're flying and I'm like, Oh dude, if I had a billion dollars,
01:04:28
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Yeah, we had a we had something a a rig like that at work for Forza. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah we had we had a ri we had a rig like that. I mean, it didn't do the up and down, but it certainly did the the left, right and the the the bank and everything went for Forza. And it's a great experience. But then it It's simulating you being in a car. You know youre you you don't have your your your face right on the windscreen. So it didn't yeah yeah there wasn't that claustrophobia that i I feel when I'm in VR. But yeah, I know i know what you mean. that I know what you mean though, mate. Anything else? Another quick one. Another quick one. We've watched some more 86, 86. We're not done yet. It's on my list. yeah I'm not going to say anything, but it's like, you see my eyes, it's like, it's
01:05:15
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It's getting it's getting wild. It's getting weird. Mm hmm. Cool. I'm liking it so far. It's still got all the ways to go. I don't have no idea where it's going to go. I have a feeling it's not going to be a happy ending. I don't know. We'll see. Like that's not a spoiler. It's just like it's just not a happy, happy thing. ah The other thing the other thing I have to talk about is ah rebuild the galaxy. But I'd love to hear what ah you're what you've watched and done before that.
01:05:42
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Yeah, so I finished Rebuild the Galaxy literally five minutes before we before we started recording. um So let's leave that because we can talk about it together. um It's nearly finished Terminator Zero. I've only got about 45 minutes to an hour left, um but nearly finished that. um um One of the reasons why we've been delayed is that um Lucy started watching Slow Horses. Now, Slow Horses as ah is a UK drama based on Apple TV, stars Gary Oldman.
01:06:15
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um Yeah the great gary old man and it's a really really good drama it's a really good series and between us. accidentally, we found ourselves putting everything to the side, everything else to the side. And we've burnt through the first three seasons. And in fact, we're on the last season now. So we're actually started watching ah the last season, which is because we caught up with ourselves, it's now being released week on week. But goodness me, I'm not surprised it's won a lot of um Brit Awards, sorry, not Brit Awards, what they call it the BAFTA Awards, which is the UK version of the yeah of the Grammys. It's won an awful lot of
01:06:54
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um accolades um because it's very, very good. The premise is, um it's like a poor man's James Bond. And what I mean by that is that you've got a... um The premise is that it's all about MI5, so the secret service um that that looks after the safety and the security of of the UK, both internally and abroad.
01:07:20
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and um Within the MI5, there are dropouts. There are candidates that the are good at what they do, but they don't quite cut the muster, typically because they've got personal problems of sort of one sort or another.
01:07:36
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and um I wouldn't say kicked out of MI5. They get redeployed so that they're not part of the the grand the grandiose that is the MI5 headquarters, which is called the park.
01:07:50
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the park. It's not part of the the the the you know these futuristic office buildings. um They get put in probably one of the most rundown buildings in central London called Slough House um to basically do the grunts work. The team, you've got an alcoholic, you've got a gambler, you've got um people that have emotional problems, people that have aggressive aggressiveness, sorry, that are too aggressive. um some There's one lady that's a junkie. so While she's an MI5 agent, she's you know she's she's whacked out on whiz.
01:08:31
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um and um They've been put, you know they are the the
01:08:39
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the dropouts, the dropouts. and They work for Gary Oldman, who is this slovenly grotesque man that's as sharp as a button. i mean he's He's horrible. He's a horrible, horrible repugnant man. is unclean He's He doesn't look after himself.
01:09:00
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He's overweight, he needs a bath, he's pretty gross, but he's clever and he gets the most out of these kids. And it's a really, really good story. And season three, where seasons one and two were very...
01:09:23
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they had a a story. for you know that There was a plot. There was ah um a threat ah threat that they solved, not in the best of ways. Typically, they get in trouble with the way that they actually fix the problem. But in season three, it was a lot more introverted and it was all about and and the the story is is is progressing with um them as individuals. um And season four, which we're on at the moment, is about one particular individual with a team that doesn't seem to have any bearing to other activities that are going on in mainstream crime land um and and and terrorism is going on.
01:10:08
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but there seems to be an intrinsic link there of some kind or another. It's really, really good. Do recommend it. It's on Apple TV. Again, we've been speaking about Apple in recent weeks and months about just how freaking good they are at commissioning the right kind of program, um which I'm really, really chuffed about. um And so I do recommend it. it's and It's intelligent. It's intelligent. It's intelligent drama, but it's quite easy to follow.
01:10:38
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Um, question for you. Yeah. I've always been, this is kind of tangential a little bit of like, I've always been familiar with like MI5, MI6 through movies and whatever. Are the various MI numbers, are those common knowledge of, this is like a dumb American question. Are they like common knowledge over there? Like, oh, there's one through 19 and here's what they are. Or is it just like,
01:11:08
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Like excited I looked it up while you were talking, I'm like, what what is five and six? And then I went to the Wikipedia page and like, oh my God, there's actually a lot of them. yeah i don't Is that common? I mean, its so it's all part of the secret service. I mean, MI6 is the secret intelligence service, which is basically the the world service, if you like. Whereas I believe MI5 is the security service. So it's it's it's more internal. It's national security, whereas MI6 is more international.
01:11:38
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Um, but that was and but yeah, do I, do I know, do I know what the, what they do? Not, not really. Um, I think that's the point of certainly a lot of, a lot of point the show is that some of the things that they do, you don't really want to know about because it's, it's a job that no one really should know about because it's savory. If somebody was like, Oh, am I 17, which doesn't roll off the tongue the same? I'm like, Oh yeah, that's the, that's the blah, blah. It's really just five and six are the ones that are like in the,
01:12:08
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that's that's That's what I know of, but I could be wrong. Let me let me let have a quick look. Is is it is there an MI4? That was the question of like, what are people familiar with? I mean, it looks like there's 19 of them. some A lot of them ended after World War II, and they all they're all listed. But it's like, oh, are five and six the same kind of level of awareness? like Those are the ones people are aware of. So MI4 is military intelligence.
01:12:36
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So, um, Oh, mate, I got no idea. That's the answer I'm looking for. Like, it's like, cause I was like, Oh shit. Do they like, do they all know? Like, Oh, 16. Yeah. That's for, that's the dogs and cats one. They're like, whatever. And as an American, I can fix it.
01:12:56
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Of course, you look at you you then type in MI3 and it's it's like mission now going to Mission Impossible. um I don't know. I was just curious. the only one i mean the the ones that the The ones that are mainstream are MI5 and MI6. And the MI6 building is is is ah is on the water, is on the um yeah um but's on the river Thames in like in on the south coast of sort of south side of the of the river.
01:13:20
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Anyway, um yeah, so Terminator Zero, Slow Horses, still watching Wings of Power, upstate on that. It'd be great when, we're not not that far away now, so it'd be great to catch up with you at some point ah about that. um Everything else, Cobra Kai, Wands of Liv, Scrubs, Time Bandits, oh, Time Bandits, we've got to talk about. Time Bandits from Rebel Moon, Director's Cut Part Two, ah all on the back burner. I will get around to it. I'm assuming it's gonna be there's going to be a lot of dark, cold, and miserable nights.
01:13:49
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coming up which will give me the perfect opportunity to ah to catch up on those but also start watching the bear out of range and 86 86. Yeah on time bunlets we heard this week that um hasn't been renewed for a season two.
01:14:04
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um It's sad it's sad that yeah it's a little bit like I was about to say it's a little bit like the acolyte but I felt very differently about the acolyte than I did timebu its time Time bunlets was fine. It didn't feel like time balance with me because I didn't, I didn't, I didn't particularly the, the, the, the, the style of the storytelling didn't particularly resonate with me. But then again, I doubt I was very much the target demographic. Um, it not being renewed for season two. Um, I'm not gutted in any way because at the moment I'm struggling to get back into watching the rest of the season. Um, but I am
01:14:47
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I don't know, mate, because it's but know mate because it's it's time but it's always been a very mature Monty Python sense of humor focused on kids.
01:15:03
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um anyway Anyway, how I feel about it is really neither here nor there. I am just sad for the industry at the moment. is it's like the yeah We've talked about this wax lyrical for the last couple of weeks. I just feel that they the industry as a whole needs to work out what it is and what it wants to be. um And how they're going to pay for it. It'd be nice if there was less content, but they paid people better because I think that's the part. it's it's It's easy to get mixed up. It's like, oh, yeah, people are getting shows getting canceled. They're not going to have work. It's like. I think there's a world where we can have both of like, people can get paid a living wage and like not have to be struggling all the time, but also like.
01:15:44
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not all this content that doesn't need to get made. Well, in the old days, in the old days, they used to keep the industry going during the dark times of, you know, national um of of recession.
01:15:59
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um Hollywood used to hire um contract actors and contract contract staff. Do you know what I mean? So they would be you know a contract actor. I think that's how Harrison Ford started off. So they wouldn't they it wouldn't be, hey, Mr. Ford, I have a i have a production here.
01:16:18
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a TV series that i'd like to i'd like to use you for they literally had a pool of actors that they were paying. ah Paying that they paid a holders fee for them they were pulling a wage. um They were obviously not paid it anyway near the kind of the kind of salaries that you'd expect from. A-listers or anything like that but it kept the industry going.
01:16:40
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because they have this pool of of actors of of creative of creative teams, of camera teams, of lighting teams, of sound teams and so on and so forth. But they were able to use and to kind of um strategically place around around the organization depending on what production was going on. And it was efficient because you may well have the same teams working on one ah more than one production at any one time, depending on the schedule. um But you'd also have this kind of consistent loyalty, not loyalty, but you you'd have a consistent bank of people personnel that you could pull from. And I listened to an interview once with Harrison Ford, which is the reason why I believe he was a contractor stuff. And he said that in the early days, without that he wouldn't have been able to when he first moved to l LA, he wouldn't have had a chance in hell hope in hell. Yes, we all know the famous story about him being a carpenter and doing some carpentry work on the side to earn some bucks. But ultimately,
01:17:41
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actors like that, um
01:17:45
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it's very, very hard to get their lucky break. And they didn't have to rely on a but ruy lucky break if they're getting some sort of ongoing, albeit small ah revenue stream from the from the um um studios. Anyway, sorry. But yeah, I mean, time balance is going. I just i don't know. It's just the industry balance. It's just like, what what is it does what does it want to be? You're youre you're pulling, yeah know you want us to sustain your base.
01:18:11
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Well, again, you know I don't want to go over the compet subject again, but you want to you know you want your numbers to go up. You want your subscript you want your subscribers to be to be loyal and to renew, preferably on an annual basis because you get the revenue upfront rather than drip feeded dr-fed over a year, and yet you pull content or reduce the content. it's like i don't know what your model is. And and and i'm not you know I'm not professing to know anything about the industry, but it's just it's just a weird weird weird, weird time we're in at the moment. So that's that that's unfortunately not going to be um renewed. um Playing Outlaws, but as I said, I lost an hour of of um of gameplay. I hope to get that back over the coming days.
01:18:54
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um and listening to and I don't want to get in the habit of of calling out the Sakoff show every single week but I have to call it out this week because of two reasons. um This week Katie interviewed Paul Sung Hyung Lee um who everyone will know from Kim's convenience. And of course he played um Carson from The Mandalorian, Book of Beaua Fett and indeed Ahsoka as well. And I guessing he's gonna get a pretty good part or a substantial part in the new Mando and Grogu film. um But I could listen to him all day long. And um he's such a humble guy. He's such a nice guy, such a caring guy. He's appreciative of
01:19:44
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where he is in his career. He's appreciative of all the people that have helped him along the way. He recognizes but is not bitter about those people or the circumstances that they may well have um pushed him back from making progress in his career, particularly his race. um But what a fucking guy. And there's two things that I took away from it, which is the reason why I had to mention it. Otherwise, I wouldn't have mentioned it.
01:20:12
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um He initially was talking about the hate that's out there on X, on other platforms, but mainly X. And he was talking about why people find it necessary when they don't like something to to tell you they don't like something. then to you know But you don't understand, I don't like it for this reason. That's fine, that's fine. No, no, let me tell you even more. let me just Just driving that that point home. and he said He said something like, Dude, this isn't an airport. You don't need to announce your departure. And I thought that is brilliant. umm It may or may not be an ah an original quote, but what a philosophy. Absolutely right.
01:20:59
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all the how haters out there that just keep going and going and going. It's like, just go. Just just just just just go. And the second part that I really, really enjoyed was, um and this this is this is linked to the comment I made earlier on about playing with dollies and and the and the excitement of buying something.
01:21:19
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He said um he was asked about his collecting because he buys things like hot toys and the rest of it, which I think is hilarious. um and he's a but He's a member of the 501st. I think it's Toronto. um ah Garrison of the 501st, which I think is hilarious. um He said, um people think think you get old and then you stop playing when actually people get old when they stop playing.
01:21:48
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which I thought was really ah really, again, another really, really sound philosophy. Again, I'm not gonna i'm not gonna bring this podcast up every every week, but you know this week, again, she she had a guest that was absolute gold, and I really, really, really enjoyed it. That's it, mate. That's it for me. um That's been my seven days in consumption.
01:22:17
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And we've got we've got 10 more minutes if you want to try to hit our consistent 132 23. Oh, that was so freaky That was so freaky Yeah, go ahead you got you yeah, I don't care. I don't care you tell me I'm still I still think that that we're haunted What explain that theory you got 10 minutes Right. So, um, but we, we, learn Sean loaded up the, um, loaded up the Sunday's episode, uh, on, well, my Monday morning, his, his Sunday evening. And when I checked the runtime, because we were, we were tight on time. Um, our buddy Steve had, had, had commitments and we were already, and he was already going off on tangents as you probably heard. But anyway, um, when, when the episode was loaded up,
01:23:10
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And if you go to your podcast capture of choice, you'll notice that last week, sorry, Sunday and last week have the exact same running time to the second one hour 32 23, which freaked me right out, right out. Um, yeah. So I would have noticed that I would have been like, that's a bug. Something's wrong. And I would have spent a lot of time trying to make sure that I didn't upload the wrong episode.
01:23:41
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I'm glad you caught it, not me. Yeah. Yeah. No, it weirded me out a little bit. But um yeah, that's it. That's it, mate. Is there anything else that I'm trying to think of anything that's on our radar at the moment that we need to be aware of? We've got to we've got some eyes on the fire for more guests, which is good. yeah um we've got some weve got some And I do hope we keep it going as consistently as we possibly can, because it makes such a difference.
01:24:09
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um Um, but we've also got some good stuff. I've got a bunch of time coming up. I got a bunch of time next week. Like we talked about before jumping on. So I'm going to be able to get caught up on rings of power, um, and chug through and catch up to you on outlaws and, and stuff like that. Cause I know it's been, uh, oh, and we never talked about rebuild the galaxy. Oh, holy crap. Let's do it now.
01:24:37
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Let's try and do it in nine minutes. No, let's just lower it. The thing is though, the the OCD in me will be looking at the counter now. So I i can't look your way because i don't want I don't want to do this. I don't want to i don't want this to become a thing. I really don't want this to become a thing. So we build the galaxy, mate. I finished five as i said five minutes before ah we started recording. What did you think?
01:25:05
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So a little background context really quick. I've always watched the Lego stuff, but they've always just been like supplementary, just kind of fun, goofy things, because I feel like they've always, they've never really had a compelling story. It's always just been goofy Lego stuff. But this one, and I know I messaged you last night about it. I'm like, you know, I i put it on as kind of like a background thing.
01:25:30
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But it's actually pretty good. I actually really enjoyed it. And then by like the final two episodes, it's four episodes. The last two episodes, like I stopped what I was doing and like legitimately watched them. It had its Lego humor in it. But like there were some parts that i actually got like verbal laughs from me. The story I thought was really compelling. And like I don't know. they just like Whatever that formula is, this one knocked it out of the park for me.
01:25:56
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and the what about and the I loved it. I thought it was really, i mean i've I've always liked the LEGO stuff anyway. I did find, um ah so there was some stuff that they did about 10, 15 years ago, the LEGO animated guys, and it got into, they call the Yoda Chronicles, Yoda Chronicles, and there was um some other stuff as well, which kind of became a little bit,
01:26:24
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Meh for me it was a little bit kind of a little bit gimmicky But then they came out with the free maker adventures, and I thought the free maker adventures I don't if you ever saw that I really enjoyed that I Really really enjoyed that and in fact if they had Dialed down No, you don't want to dial down the humor in a Lego show It's a Lego show, but if it had every right to be a legitimate TV live-action TV series um of a serious of of a of ah of a of a serious nature.
01:26:58
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um Well, light-hearted, serious nature. I thought it was really, really good, really, really good, that that whole that whole story. um And then I've really, really enjoyed some of the Christmas and and Halloween specials that they've done, but they have been a gimmick. you know it's been It's been kind of gimmicky. i really The way I felt about Rebrut on the Galaxy was a little bit like the way I felt about um um ah The way I felt a little bit about the the free maker adventures as well. What I found really really interesting was the ending Was the ending was that the changes are the changes are the changes are the changes that that's that's the in that you know, I wonder I wonder if and maybe I'm looking at this too deeply, but you know, you know how we
01:27:49
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I would like to think that you and I are reasonably easy going when it comes down to Star Wars. What is canon? What isn't canon? What is you know what is good Star Wars? What is bad Star Wars? It's like just pick what you want. Just pick what you want and what you love and hold on to it.
01:28:05
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you know Hold on to it tightly and and and really take pleasure out of it Don't don't sweat the small stuff and one of the subliminal messages I got from this I got from this was that Just do what you want and I guess some of it as well also kind of links with the Lego movie where you've got You've got the dad played by Will Ferrell and it's like no Lego has to be built this way It's got to be built this way. It can't be built this way um and I felt there was a little bit of that kind of um That kind of um
01:28:38
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commentary going on a little bit in yeah In this as well and then for the ending to be you know Everything has changed. It's almost like it's almost like I'm just wondering is there a little bit of social commentary there just to say I make Star Wars what you want it to be and stop stressing out and move on for God's sakes Nothing to see here move on I think there's a hundred absolutely social commentary in there like and it's there's points in it that it's more direct and I think more like in their face a little bit. ah But I think the ending was a kind of a very poignant middle grounds of like. Can't it doesn't matter like at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
01:29:22
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what is canon or truth it's like because it can be like it's not multiverse for the sake of multiverse but it's like it can just be what it is and you can enjoy it or not like and you can't change it like that's kind of the key like and you just got to live with it and like and deal with deal the hand you're helping like it's it is I really enjoyed it. Dude, there were some parts that had me like some of the funnier parts were also kind of laced with that social commentary. Like the Darth Jar Jar stuff was hilarious. I just thought it was
01:29:54
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yeah It wasn't just the goofiness of it, but it was like how rooted in the reality it was. yeah the The fact there was like Darth Rey and Darth Rose Tico and they like it had Kelly Marie Tran and Ahmed Best in it. Oh, I thought i thought the casting was was was was absolutely fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. The fact that they brought back, to your point, they they had a couple of, they had Gaten from Stranger Things. They had Tony from Spider-Man.
01:30:23
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uh series obviously usual usual voice set suspects like Dee Bradley Baker and um Bobby Moynihan um obviously Anthony Daniels of course you can't have anything with C3APO without without Anthony Daniels. Anthony Pajek. Mark Hamill, Anthony Pajek did I tell you how to book oh move on um Sam Whitmer but what really really you know really really warmed my heart the fact that Amir Bess Kelly Marie Tran was there one thing I can't find is Is the lady... I'm gonna have to look up Ryder Skywalker. You know the... The dark Rey? No, no, no, no, no. No, Rey is the same voice that plays Rey in the other Lego. It's the... What's the name of the... What's the name of the female... What's the name of the female stormtrooper?
01:31:25
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that rebels like Finn. And she... And she... Good God, she's not even in the main lineup. but's Oh, Janna. Janna was was, I'm sure, was there as well. She was the dark ah dark lady with the goggles on her head, and I'm sure that was Janna. And I just want to double check with her, because it sounded so much like Naomi Aki.
01:31:54
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And I just want to know if she was also in the but in in the show as well. She was! She was! Yay! Good ears, Belle. Yes, she was. I'm like, you're talking about it? I'm like, I don't know what the hell you're talking about, but no. Oh, she's Jedi Jannah. Sorry, she wasn't she wasn't Darth Jannah. She was Jedi Jannah. Oh, yeah. and And there was other things and there was other things about it that that really claw back came back to my, um, I've got to keep talking by the way, because we're nearly at time and I want to go over time so that we're not jinxed. I'm going out. We're over time. Good. Um, I'm, I feel better now. Um, yeah, sorry. Um, yeah, the, um, there were, there are a couple of things that really, really, again, made my, made me giggle because it reminded me of my, my, my, um,
01:32:43
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my childhood. The first was um the X-Wing TIE fighters, or the X-Fighters, was sick. but apps I thought, actually, it's a really, really good design. And my brain went back to a time in the comics, our heroes were coming across a bunch of pirates, and they the pirates were all flying what they called uglies.
01:33:09
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And those uglies were... Yeah, yeah, they were ex-wing fuse lodges with TIE fighter wings and and vice versa. And I thought that was wicked. What made me laugh the most was the fact that the ah the sand crawler had four ATAT legs underneath it. yeah Because as a kid as a kid, seriously, as a kid, I didn't have... we didn't we didn't we were I didn't have a lot of Star Wars. um My mum... she worked her butt off and did as best she could for me. But um you know I didn't have an awful lot of of of Star Wars toys. And so therefore, the year that she gave, I got an AT-AT, which unfortunately is now in a in a ah landfill somewhere in Sydney, Australia. But the AT-AT that I had, which I
01:33:58
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which I still had, became a spaceship as well, even though it was an ATAT. And so watching those guys, I used to basic to turn in in my imagination, the Millennium Falcon was fighting a ah a ship that just just happened to look like a a an But with the old ATAT, you used to be able to stretch the legs out. So it was almost like flat, like Superman flying. Like a Superman flying, yeah.
01:34:26
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Yeah. Yeah. So, so, so that became a spaceship as well, because I didn't have anything else for it to, for the Millennium Falcon to fight against. Um, and so seeing that, seeing that either the sand crawler cobbled with a, with an atta and then it fit to find its way flying into hyperspace. Uh, yeah, it really, it really, really, that was the part that i thought was funny. Cause I know in the previews they showed the sand crawlers with the atta legs walking.
01:34:51
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But then when it got to the point where it's, no, it's, it's literally flying in space and like the, the, the legs aren't out. They're not even moving. They're just dangling there underneath the sand crawler, like flying around in space, like a spaceship. It's like, dude, I, I'd love to be on the creative, just a fly on the wall for the creative team that gets to do these Lego movies. Cause you have to like be familiar with like the, the universe of Lego and like what they allow.
01:35:18
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Star Wars and just it's like that's got to be just the funniest thing ever to be like, what if we did a sync roller? Like, because there was a couple other things that they even called out where they're like, oh, they'll just they'll just do anything now. Like they'll just let anything s slide. And like there' some of it was just so funny. Like I've always appreciated the Lego stuff, but this one just really up the bar.
01:35:38
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for me and like to a point where I'd actually recommend it. The other ones are like, you know, I enjoyed them. But I don't think anybody's really missing out on much if they don't. Yeah, like the Halloween stuff, like the summer vacation when it's like, whatever, it was entertaining. But this one's like, it's a Halloween one I thought was quite good. But then when they went into Vader's castle and, and um The hut dude was trying to turn it into like a casino. I thought that was quite funny. That was that that one was quite good and it went from it went from you know one little anthology story to the next and just a series, a bit like you know v Vader's Castle Tales and the in the comics.
01:36:15
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but albeit with that with that um that Lego slant to it. I thought I was quite a good one as well. That that that that I did find quite funny. And that's only because I actually find that character in clone, that Jabba's cousin, what's his name? um zero zero Zero, the hurt. Yeah, I find that character hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. In the same vein as Hondo.
01:36:36
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um Cool. Dude, I'm going to lose my mind. I'm going to lose my mind if Hondo shows up in skeleton crew. Just so you know, i I'm going to yell. I would love to. Sorry, I would love for it to happen. I'd love to manifest that. That would be so good. And I'm not even a big cameo guy. I'm not a big like, Luke Skywalker is going to be in everything, but like, Hondo in live action, that'll be like the full circle moment that I'm here for. It's like, yes. Well, it's such a good deal. I mean, again, it would be such a good strategy. It would be such a good strategy. Let's face it, the marketeers and the
01:37:17
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the planning team have somewhat been out to lunch over over over over latest years. They've got an opportunity to A, bring Hondo into... Hondo's coming into Outlaws, which is before right it's before Jedi, but it's not it's very, very feasible that there is... um you know that the the the the story or his his plot in the DLC that we get may well link to something ah post-Jedi. um Secondly, he's um already at Galaxy's Edge. um Then we've got we've got Skeleton Crew and this space pirate further going on at the moment.
01:38:07
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it would make sense for it for it be ah to be a thing going forward because it's low risk. It's low risk. He's not one of the you know he's not one of the key characters. you know his his his His decision making doesn't take the fate of the galaxy. If he fucks up, he means his skin. Exactly. But not even that, but it's just so much low risk fun to piss around the galaxy with ah with with with a pirate who basically just wants to get paid and make a load of money. It's a bit like how I feel about Lando.
01:38:40
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that's why i love That's why I love about Hondo. it's just like He's just he's just a and like an instrument of chaos. like He's just doing his thing, vibing, hanging out, being silly. and then he But he he is just a catalyst for chaos wherever he goes, and I love it. yeah like because it's not Because it is not serious. He just comes in and he's like,
01:39:00
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Hello, I'm, I can't do the voice. I can't, I'm Hondo Onaka. And then just things are falling apart. And it's like, yes. yeah yeah More like he's got like the the chaos force, like just a bubble around him that whoever he's around, like we know people like this. like We all know people in our lives are like, you're a Hondo, just popping in and be like messing things up in a good way.
01:39:22
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But one of the most critically, might I agree 100%, and there's so many proof points to support this idea. you know One of the most the most critically acclaimed Star Wars production is Andor. It's a story about the any man. It's a story about someone who is inconsequential.
01:39:47
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He's not a hero. He wants out of the system. He doesn't want to draw attention to himself. And the story is so fucking complaining. When we meet him, you know little did we you know of course he didn't realize five years later, the actions of him and a bunch of other rebels are going to obviously change the face of um change the fate of the galaxy, or fate the fate, sorry, of the galaxy. But it's that any man's story that is so flipping interesting, most importantly, fun, because it's low risk. You know, there's nothing about the skywalkers there. You're not going to upset anyone around around whether they're keeping to canon or not. It's just low risk, entertaining, fun, go for it. Plus, on top of that, another proof point, you've also got a
01:40:40
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A Disney parks needs to think about the refresh. Do you understand what I mean by that? They're going to have to think about what happens next. Do we stick with the first order piece? Well, are people's minds still in the sequel trilogy? I would suggest not.
01:41:02
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um Maybe change the period, maybe change the time. ah Make it relevant, make it fresh for today because let's face it, Rise of Skywalker came out in 2019. That's nearly five years old. It's five years old now and it's based around that time, if not prior to that.
01:41:23
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you know They need to think about this. and so you know you know keep Keep the infrastructure that you've got, but maybe rethink it a little literally just a little bit. just a little bit turn the um you know sticker stick around Stick a round radar dish on the yeah on the Falcon and remove the square one that's currently there. You're good to go.
01:41:44
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You're good to go for another 5-10 years. turn the um um Keep Hondo there, because he's still around to today, but turn the Rise of the Resistance into a pirate ship. Keep that keep the infrastructure there. Just clad it or veneer it in something else. Turn it into a pirate ship.
01:42:05
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Well, the rise of resistance is the one that's like got Kylo Ren in it. And that's the only thing that I think they would need to change. Because everything else that's rise of resistance that's sequel era related is it's all digital. You could replace Rey, you could replace Finn and Poe. All the other characters, like you just need to figure out a way to like change the lightsaber parts.
01:42:23
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with Kylo in them. But the the Falcon ride, that's already changed. It's already going to be Mando. They've already, they're already doing their own Grogu overlay on it. Yes. Proof point number three. Exactly. It's all connected and and it makes sense for it to be, it makes so much sense to to to to to make it a bit of fun. I'm excited.
01:42:41
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We already know that we've already seen Zeb. We already saw Zeb at the beginning of Ahsoka. We already know that he's going to be there in Mando and Grogu. So they introduced him. It's it's almost like a Petri dish. you know It's almost like a test. They've tested Zeb. Does he land? Does he work? Does he look all right? Are the fans going to accept this kind of this kind of um It's effect that we're trying to achieve. The fans responded favorably. Okay, let's stick him in. Mando and Grogu. You, so you skeleton crew do the same thing with Hondo. Oh, I'm not going to lie. I looked up like, could zero the hut show up in skeleton crew, but I forgot zero. The hut died. It's like, okay, could oh did a there be, uh, back in like the clone wars, he got shot by like it's nice. It's nice noodles or whoever it was.
01:43:28
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Oh, shit. I mean, it's Clone Wars. Now it's all so long. Like, but who cares? Bring them back. bring make it Make a twin. Like, ah Zero and Nickname want a hero. Like, hero the Hutt. Like, and just. No, I love Zero to Hero. Yeah, I loved it. I just love the voice and how irritating it is. And it's like, and I'm sure that would just get under. oh this ah kind I also love. I also love how they really, really amped up. Sice noodles.
01:43:58
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um during the Clone Wars as well, during the Clone Wars run as well. And that that whole dynamic between him and Sai, I thought it was absolutely, absolutely superb. um Yeah, I love that. I love that kind of gangster in his mole kind of kind of take on the whole thing. Dude, we've done we've done better than we thought. For a quiet wait, we've done one hour 44. And we've broken the curse as well.
01:44:25
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The joke's on you, I'm gonna sit there and try to find a way to cut out 10 minutes of dead air in the episode. I'll speed it up by like 0.001% just to get it to align. I won't do that, but it's fine. I dare you. I dare you. If you've got that time. I gotta watch Rings of Power. Yeah, you got that ton of time on your hands. It's like, okay, fair play. You deserve that. All right, dude.
01:44:50
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Thank you very much for recording again this week. I love it. ah but i i wouldn't yeah We only spoke two days ago, three days ago, sorry. and i wouldn't we wouldn't be going for this I wouldn't be going for this long if we if if I didn't enjoy talking to you every week. So thank you very much for your time and and for recording with me. Take us out, mate.
01:45:12
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Well, I'm trying to, should we do the, should we do our tips first or the, out like the outro? What do you want to do? Cause I remembered it this morning. I think they're going to let you call me on it. I think we, should I think you should, um, let folk know where they can find us. Okay. Um, and then I think that you should, we should end prior to the goodbyes with, with tip of the week. Okay.
01:45:38
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Here we go. We really appreciate you spending your time with us. If you liked what you heard, make sure to subscribe and leave us a review. Don't forget you can check out our website at justshillin.com for more awesome content and ways to connect with us like Instagram, email, other stuff like that. um Yeah, we really appreciate it. Until next time. ah Andy, let's hear your tip first and then I'll end with mine.
01:46:01
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Uh, I, you you, I don't have, I found one on the fly last week because you didn't have one. I thought this was your gig. Okay. It is my gig, but you've been, you've been contributing to it. So I got it. I got it. Here we go. Feedback in relationships and work is like taking out the garbage. Stay on top of it often. Stay on top of it often, or it will pile up and be difficult to deal with. Feedback is like taking out the trash. Don't forget that.
01:46:31
Speaker
I'm glad that that's a good one because I'm glad um in my in my haste um um for looking for a top tip for the week, I got some tips on gambling, um which I don't think is particularly appropriate for this um this podcast, ah particularly around football or in your words, soccer. um Anyway, um have a great week, folks. We'll catch you same time, hopefully same place next week. Thank you for listening. Take care now. Bye.