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The Sixth Sense (1999) - "I see dead people"
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We're back! and this time, we're checking out the twist that started all twists, 1999's American supernatural psychological thriller, "The Sixth Sense".
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Movie Details
Written and Directed by M. Night Shyamalan. Produced Kathline Kennedy and Frank Marshall. Starring Bruce Willis, Toni Collette, and Haley Joel Osment
With a budget of $40mil, it made $672.8 mil in the box office. Currently a 8.1 on IMDb.
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Podcast 'On Second Watch': Revisiting 'The Sixth Sense'
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In the world of big budget blockbusters, travel back in time to explore the epic, and not so epic, movies of yesteryear. This is On Second Watch, a movie nostalgia podcast.
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Welcome everybody to another episode from On Second Watch. Today, we have myself, Tim, we have Chris, we have Nikki, we have Kerry and Spaz. Dana's not here, even though she picked this damn movie.
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but we are here to review our movie that lost the Academy Award, Best Picture Nominee, and that is The Sixth Sense. And this is written and directed by M. Night Shyamalan, produced by Kathleen Kennedy, Frank Marshall, starring Bruce Willis, Tony Collette, and the good old Haley Joel Osman. With a budget of 40 million, it made approximately 672 million in the box office, currently sits on IMDb at an 8.1.
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Now, The Sixth Sense was nominated for six Academy Awards and four British Academy Film Awards, but it won zero of them. And we chose this movie from our spin the wheel event, like I mentioned, and it did not win, and it ultimately lost to American Beauty. Pretty much across the board, it lost everything. Everyone lost to American Beauty in that one. That's just the way it goes.
Nostalgia and Personal Ratings of 'The Sixth Sense'
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So The Sixth Sense.
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We did our nostalgia scores for that last time. Actually, it was two months ago. So let's do a quick recap. I don't know what I did yesterday. Two months ago, no way too far off.
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As I have told these guys already, all the days blurred together due to being at home with COVID. Yes, please give us a little bit of a recap. Well, if you listened to our last episode that came out, I'm not going to listen to myself. I hate the way I sound. I hate everything about the way I sound. Oh, they have to do it for work, not doing it here.
00:03:37
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Fine. So the sixth sense, let's see. Chris and myself gave it an eight. Spaz gave it a seven. And Dana, Carrie, and Nikki all gave it a six. For the sixth sense. Good. For the sixth sense. I feel like I would have said six because of Bruce Willis. Pretty sure that's... I think that was all your justification. Yeah. I'm consistent if nothing else.
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That's very true. And that brought our average to a 6.8.
Mad Libs Activity: 'The Sixth Sense' Characters
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So we're going to find out if our rewatch is better or worse than that. But before we do that, I created a Mad Libs that I feel very terrible about because I was in a very bad mood when I wrote this. So it is pretty much geared toward making it intentionally just awful.
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So it's up to you guys to fix it. How angsty were you? You were in a bad mood. I was in a bad mood. I wasn't feeling it. So I just made some really... Little great crowds on that sunny day. You know, a little upset. Yeah, it was cold and snowy and I was just not feeling it. So this is bad. So you guys can either make it so much worse or just bad. Alma, I'm gonna kill this thing.
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I'm going to put it in your hands, but this time I have a total of six characters in this one, and instead of just randomly assigning who does what, we're each going to have to pick a character that we represent. So the six characters I have, we got Malcolm, the lead character. You got Anna, which is Bruce Willis's wife.
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You got Vincent, the guy that shoots Bruce Willis at the beginning, who was Dunny Wahlberg of all people. Yeah, right? We lost 45 pounds for that roll. Damn. No, I didn't believe it. Tim said that was him and I was like, it was not. Shut up.
00:05:25
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Yup. It took me, uh, took me by surprise. I went down the rabbit hole after watching this. Yes. That was, I did not know that was Donny. Oh my God. No, it didn't. Anyway, no, I did not at all. And then the fourth character we got is Cole. Obviously it's Haley Jill Osman's character. And then we have two ghosts. So you guys need to help me figure out which of us plays each one of these roles. First of all, who wants to play Bruce Willis's character, Malcolm Dana. Yeah, that's fitting. It's Dana. Yeah.
00:05:54
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Yeah, we could do Dana. All right. That works. All right. Who plays Dana's wife? Me. You. A hundred percent. Yep. Damn it. Spaz wanted it so hard. This is my chance, guys. It's the only one I had, man. All right. Who plays Vincent? Carrie.
00:06:20
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With bottled up, yeah, I guess I can be the angry Blalberg. I guess I'm fine with that. That's fitting. Some dirty whitey-tities. All right, who plays little old Cole? Spaz. Dan, for sure, yeah. Absolutely. Spaz with his clip-on tie. I need that clip-on. Who ties ties anymore? Most people.
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So we got ghost number one and ghost number two. So which one of you will be first? Hey, Mickey, which one would you prefer? Would you prefer ghost number one or ghost? Without any context, I'll be number one, sure. Ghost two, Electric Boogaloo. I hope this is bad for Chris. Nothing beats.
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Let's not. Let's not. Painting with my schlong, yeah. Poor Tim. The soft schlong painter. Poor Tim. Best phrase ever. That was a train wreck. That was fantastic. That's still the best one ever. It hurt. It hurt to read. Let's top it today.
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Let's see what we can do. So from you guys, I need eight adjectives. Wow. Oh wow. That's really coming in. It's quite a bit. I told you I was angsty. It was not feeling good. Basically, basically there's nothing there is what you're telling us. We're just filling it out right now. There's nothing written. Give me nine words slippery. Glistening hairy frisky.
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automatic did you grab voluptuous you say I got voluptuous I got five okay sensitive euphoric abusive and on the polar opposite of euphoric all right that does it for the adjectives I need five nouns
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rectum always butts and wieners with you weiner no okay no we're just straight up denying you pistol i mean i could use that right pervert
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Let's just like Dan get out of his system Because it's me Tim what would you have written down? I just been writing everything down for the nouns. I got rectum pistol idiot pervert Jesus Christ dog Sorry, that was a cute husky in there. I want dog in there
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I literally can only think of instruments for some odd reason. I have no idea why, but I'm like, go with it. Cute. Why not? Let's get dirty. I need 10 verbs. Oh God. Drilling. Oh, that's a good one. Rubbing. That's a good one. Chase. Sniffing. That's a good one.
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Paddling that can be good. Hey, we don't kink shame I was thinking more How do you put your mind in the good if you never leave the gutter that is true smack It's just so
00:09:41
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You know, I was really relying on you guys to try to make this a little better. No, but, um, I told you, we're going to take this thing and we're just going to fucking bury it. How many more do you need? I need four more. Let's just keep making it awful. Lubricating. Oh yeah. Okay. On the polar opposite of that chafing. Oh God. If we're going to kill it, we might as well kill it. Jesus Christ. Oh yes. I looked ahead and I'm not happy. All right. Two more polishing.
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I was looking at the cabinet knobs too. Oh my god. Awesome. So I'm looking at a picture of a lake, and all I can think of is fishing. And then there's Nicky. Yeah. So hold on. Well, she said paddling. I'm like, oh, canoeing, fishing. Nicky's like breathing. Walking.
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I'm just picturing in my head we're all like immediately going to the gutter on purpose and Nikki's like in her head it's like this happy fucking picnic and I'm like oh god like it's just shoreline people are paddling in canoes sitting in a non-sexual way yeah for sure picnicking
00:10:56
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And then it's Faz's hat. It's like some BDSM club, you know, and everyone's paddling each other. Yeah. I mean, there's no King shame. You do what you do, man. Like the intro to blade. That went hard. Okey dokey. The last bit I need are the random ones. So I need a type of doctor.
00:11:18
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Proctologist. No, no, no, no, no. Enough of the rectums. Yeah. Kerry, get in here with your specialty. Name drop something really rare. Virologist. There you go. Great. The study of what spaz has. Come on, man. What are you talking about? I'm clean. I don't know what that means, but.
00:11:43
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All right. This one might be a fun one. So I need a yearbook award. Most likely to have a large family. That's adorable. That is weirdly
Rewatch Ratings and Reflections on 'The Sixth Sense'
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adorable or insulting. I can't tell. Right? Exactly. It means maybe you're just really that kind of family person or you're easy.
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This depends how many parents there are. That's right. I need an embarrassing condition like elephant. I need a type of weapon.
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We already said pistol. Well, now we need two pistols. No, I'm kidding. Um, flamethrower. Oh, flamethrower. Yes. Ooh, flamethrower. That's a good one. I'm going intense. You like it, Carrie. I need a favorite food. Pizza. Yeah. Yeah. I need an emotion. Belligerent. Drunk. That's not an emotion. Flabbergasted. Cool. I'm going to go with flabbergasted. I like it.
00:12:50
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I need a job or a profession lawn ordinance enforcer. I like it. Police officer. No, not law lawn. L a W N the head of the HOA basically. Is that what you're saying? Yes, exactly. That's not a job, is it? It is. Ted me.
00:13:08
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Where I lived, if you live back in the day, I never saw them. I think they're made out. But if you live in a village or whatever, and you pay village tax, there are technically ordinance enforcers. They're not police officers. I put lawn in front of it, but they basically checked to make sure that your grass wasn't crazy, unkempt. You didn't have furniture on your front lawn. I would never live in an HOA. I'd rather die first. Yeah, it sucks. It's not fun. I lived in one, but I thought they were voluntary positions.
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So basically where I lived, like I said, I never even knew they existed because there was houses on like my street that mowed once a month. But buried in their bylaws, they had ordinance of forces. If you had a dog that you left outside all day that barked nonstop, they could cite you for basically disturbing the peace. So like a parks and recreation.
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Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Go with that. I never saw them, yeah. Law and ordinance enforcer. Well, this is going to get interesting then. So for that position, the law and enforcement officer. Ordinance enforcer. God damn. What is a handheld object that they would use? Ruler.
00:14:17
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Oh my God. I just imagine somebody measuring the height of grass. Yeah. That's what I was thinking too. They do. The person that takes that role would be the person with the ruther measuring the grass. How about a heavy object that they would be using? I mean a clipboard, but I don't think that's heavy. Their ego. I like to think those walking poles, you know, for hiking those walking poles. I like to think that it would be that person.
00:14:44
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who's just doing that on like a sidewalk. Oh, the walking poles. Yes. Yes. Yes. And like, yep. In two short white shorts and like a plaid vest. I literally think I saw this exact person like today. So this is very fitting. This person exists. I'm thinking like a Ned Flanders-esque type of personality. Nothing at all. Nothing at all.
In-depth Analysis of 'The Sixth Sense'
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The grass is long. We need to cut it.
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All right. I need a body part. Elbow. No, we always say elbow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Ankle. Ankle. Ankle. No joints. No joints. Okay. Fine. Uh, septum. Wow. Okay. I was going to say navel. I was going to say. Yeah. No. Yeah, we know what you're going to say, Dan. Sit down and sit back down. I was going to say ulna, but whatever. Wow. Where's the ulna, Dan? Oh, that would be your arm.
00:15:42
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I am so impressed by you, Dan. I still remember some of my anatomy and physiology, okay? That was one of my good classes I had. You just like drawing on the female body. Boobs. All right, I need a type of relative. Auntie. A favorite snack. Pirate's booty. Pirate's booty. Pirate's booty, for sure.
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Cause we always, that always seems to pop up in our conversation with us. Crack in a bag. All righty. I think that's all of them. So without further ado, here is the plot summary, Mad Libs for the six cents. This is going to be terrible. God damn right. I mean.
00:16:29
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Zoom in a little bit so my enhanced eyes. Exactly. Dana is a slippery children's virologist who was honored with the most likely to have a large family award.
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Upon coming home with Tim, her voluptuous rectum spouse, she discovers Carrie, a hairy dog. Oh no. And former patient suffering from elephantitis. Who broke into their house.
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Carrie accuses Dana of drilling her before attacking her with a flamethrower, before then turning it on herself. That's a bad way to go. That's crispy. My hair is flammable, for sure. So next year, Dana meets the young spaz, an automatic idiot. I had it fixed so perfectly. So perfect. The young spaz, an automatic idiot who reminds her of Carrie.
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Kiri accuses Dana of drilling her before attacking her.
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Who she feels must rub to rectify her past failures. Wait, I'm sorry. What was that? To rub?
00:18:01
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rectify. Who she feels she must rub to rectify her past failures. Rubbin Dan, Chris. Pretty sure that's illegal. And Chase with Tim. Dana is also hoping that sniffing this kid will help her fix her relationship with her spouse, Tim. Sniffing Dan is a bad idea. Bad idea.
00:18:28
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Alright with her spouse Tim who has been distant and paddling the pizza boy Which reminds me of a side story I have to jump in here really quick I went to go pick up some little Caesars pizza From their little portal that you can just order it and just stop in you don't have to talk to anybody Get my pizza. I'm walking out the door. There's no one else there and suddenly somebody from behind the counter says I love you To which I turn around not knowing how to respond and just say thanks pizza guy
00:19:00
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You should have said I love you back. That story went a lot different than I thought it was in the show. Talk about paddling the pizza boy. Well, I don't get paid enough for that, but anyway, paddling the pizza boy. After earning his trust, Spaz reveals. Oh my God. Bring it. Bring it on. Spaz reveals that he lubricates dead people. Yes, I did. Oh, wait.
00:19:30
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That's my secrets. Necrophilia for those that like to kick back and crack open a cold. Oh God, which makes Dana feel flabbergasted? Why are you telling my secrets?
00:19:59
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Okay, I'm getting some real weird vibes from you, bro. Digging up bodies with a bottle of KY. They're so dry, you have to. Oh my god, oh my god. They're just a try at the Oscar.
00:20:21
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I just imagine this fix like opening up a grave and just dropping a Vaticosco lotion. It puts the lotion on the skinner and gets the hoes again. I guess it doesn't matter because they're dead, but yeah. Oh, it matters. It does. It does. That's making a lotion Jacuzzi out of that grave pit. This is not okay. That's the way I've ever had.
00:20:56
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I hate sand, it's so dry, of course! It gets everywhere! Okay, I guess after we're done talking about spaz, boinking dead bodies, I guess we should get back to the story.
00:21:11
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And Dana sniffed that, of course. What's a smell like disappointment? Oh my god. All right. Some of the ghosts that Spaz sees is a glistening pistol law enforcement officer named Nikki. Damn it. That's okay. This isn't too bad. Who died after being smacked in the septum by a ruler and then accidentally crushed to death by a walking pole?
00:21:37
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That sounds terrible. That's a bad way to go. Oh, no. Oh, yes. Another ghost. Chris. Another ghost is the young, sensitive pervert named Chris. All right. First one was better. Sorry, Chris. I'm so sensitive. An innocent child that was... Jesus.
00:22:07
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I don't even know. An innocent child that was chafed by their euphoric auntie for eating all their pirate's booty. That sounds wrong on several levels. What did you give me an Indian burn? Dana convinces spaz to use his abusive ability for good and help these ghosts polish in the afterlife.
00:22:51
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I wonder if Costco sells Costco size of KY. You know, funny story. They do because I know that from throwing. Yeah, you got to elaborate. Yeah. I don't want you to think I'm weird, but nothing too late. Any better. Yeah. You got to, I mean, just might as well just keep going. Well, the wrestling parties.
00:22:58
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And who knows, maybe fishing these ghosts will help Dana learn something about herself in the end. Just polishing for eternity.
00:23:12
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I didn't do it over time. It's time to be alive. It's all right. We had like the marker parties and those kind of, but nope, not KY wrestling parties. I went to the wrong college. Not actually. You just are a stick in the mud. I'm pretty sure one of those was up on your campus. Chris, you had to leave B-dubs to go to these places.
00:23:38
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First off, I enjoyed my time there. All right. And I went to enough parties. I just happened to never go to a wrestling party. I'm very disappointed now, Chris, because you never took me to a wrestling party. I'm pissed. There's reasons why you weren't invited. Well, you weren't invited apparently either, you asshole.
00:23:59
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Yeah. I was just going to say, I have to make this publicly known on this podcast because of the three people that listen to it. Fuck be dubs because they're buy one, get one free. Traditional wings are now buy one, get one 50% off. That's terrible. Bullshit. Yeah.
00:24:12
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Do better, Bdubs. They kept increasing the price. Yes, they did. The last time I went, it was like, I don't know, how much are they, like, a dollar an hour or something? Yeah. Back in the day, we could have, like, a couple beers and, like, wings and wedges, and it was, like, under 20 bucks. Just to get, like, wings and wedges now, it's almost like $17. Well, they're having a hard time getting the chicken for their wings and shit, man. I don't care. Fuck you, Bdubs. No longer worth it. Anyway, that's my soapbox for the day.
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00:25:40
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Let's, let's jump into this rewatch of this film and why don't we just kind of go down. Why don't you guys just share what you experienced watching this again and just go ahead and throw out your rewatch rating and we'll just knock it all out at once. And Nikki, I got to know from you first because you were so adamant not watching this again. You were so angry.
00:25:57
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When I was going back to edit the last episode you were just like God, I don't want to do this Yeah, it was real salty about it even while watching it in fact I remember so I mean I just did it yesterday right but the the anniversary six months after he died
00:26:16
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where she says, happy anniversary. I was so mad and thinking really six months later, you would say that in an angry way. You wouldn't be like tearful. That's not realistic. Like I was critical of how she said happy anniversary. But I will say that waiting 20 years to rewatch it was wise because there was a lot I had actually forgotten about and also seeing it
00:26:41
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from the perspective now being a mom, it was a lot different for me, especially in the end of the movie when they were in the car and he was talking about seeing grandma and what she said. I was like, oh my God, I couldn't take it. I feel like if you watch it once every 20 years, then you can rewatch it. So I do need to eat my words because I was like, damn it, it's actually good movie. As much as I wanted to be mad and hate it. So it's going up for me. I rate it at a seven now. I think it's good. As long as you watch it,
00:27:11
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once every 20 years or more, I think.
00:27:14
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It's a solid seven for me. I gotta say that scene at the end where he's talking with his mom, it was just a brilliant scene. Just him actually revealing what's been going on with him and just talking, that whole scene about the grandma was just spectacularly written and well executed by those actors. So that was a good scene for sure. Agreed. I'll just share Dana. She came in with a six with her nostalgia and after rewatching it, she still felt it was like just hovering around a six. She still liked it, but now noticing obviously the big twist piece of it.
00:27:43
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And you can just see all these hints that were very obvious. I was wondering how we never saw it before, because they were just really blatant. Well, we were young. I know that, but still, there's just so many giveaways. But either way, she just said it's still, it's still an enjoyable watch. Definitely has its moments, but still just kind of sits at a six for her at the end. So that's Dana's. So Carrie, you also came in with a six. Do you want to go next? For me, this was one of those that honestly, going back to Watts was not as
00:28:13
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There's just some movies I can't rewatch like this the usual suspects like there's just a handful that I just didn't enjoy as much knowing the twist so I don't know I'm kind of with Dana I don't know I think I'll go to like a 6.5 but not much of a change for me either okay it's very fair it's I mean it's hard it's like they based so much of this movie off of that twist that when you know it's coming it's you know it kind of loses its impact
00:28:43
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It's like 90% of Shalomans films. Spaz with your seven. Where are you at now? I'm going to bump it up to an eight. If you would have watched this movie five years after it, it would have probably not have been as good. But it being 23 years later, you see it in a different light, I guess.
00:29:01
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I love the story. I love this movie. It's like I said before, M. Night Shyamalan has two good movies, this one and Split. I kind of want to go back and watch Unbreakable again because I heard that was the decent movie. Another Bruce Willis. Booyah. Haley Joel Oz. That little shit was so damn good.
00:29:20
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I forgot how good he was in this movie. And even Bruce Willis was strong. The dynamic between him and his mom, that was, that was just really great. It was phenomenal. The whole car scene at the end of the movie, it pulled on your heartstrings a little bit, you know, the storyline was good. And that's why I'm bumping up to eight. Yeah, Dan, maybe we both suffer from the same thing, which was just forgetting a lot of what happened.
00:29:45
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And so it was almost like, obviously you knew he was going to be a ghost and that was taken away. But even with that, I found myself like, gosh, how does it come to resolution? When does Bruce Willis realize it? And, you know, is this kid getting any better? All I remembered was that Bruce Willis was a ghost. It was fun to rewatch it for me, just because it was so long ago. Watching it again, you kind of assume that Haley, Joel Osment, I think
00:30:15
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He probably knows that he's a dead guy. That's why he's not trusting him at first. So I don't know. I think he knows for sure. Yeah. But I totally agree with you. I think this role, I mean, I think he's like 11 when he's 11. This is probably the best acting out of a young actor I've ever seen in any film. Oh, absolutely. I can't I cannot think of one that's better between his fear moments, his just casual moments, the
00:30:41
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intense moments. I feel like he'd been acting for like 50 years at that point. It was Oscar worthy. I'm so I'm absolutely should have won in my mind. Yeah. Agreed. It was funny reading the trivia about him getting this role. And one of the like, through the three reasons, like Shelamon gave it to him.
00:30:58
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One, he was the only kid to show up with a tie on for his audition. There was one other reason, but the other, there's three reasons, but the one other one, um, that stuck out to me was he was only one that read the lines or whatever before coming to the audition. And he told.
00:31:14
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Shalom on that. I read it three times and he's like, Oh, your lines, he goes, no, the script. He read the entire script three different times before he showed up for his audition. So I guess that really set the presidents for M night in regards to, to giving him the role. I made the mistake. I was rewatching Silicon Valley right before we rewatch this. Cause I rewatched this after we enough. And I was like going back and forth between the two of them.
00:31:36
Speaker
oh god what is what is there between the two but yeah he's so good in this as a kid watching him in the boys yeah yeah boys that's you yep oh shit i forgot he was in that all right you gave it an eight right span yes okay chris why don't you why don't you hit us next because you you came in with an eight i did come in with an eight i cannot recall the last time
00:32:01
Speaker
I've seen this movie. Maybe it is 20 years. It's a weird snapshot in time because, yeah, it is 23 years ago.
00:32:07
Speaker
And I will say it was a very good movie. I have a very hard time with it being classified as a horror. I get why because of the elements in it. But to me, this almost, and I'm, I'm sweating hairs here and I'm sure people are rolling their eyes. It's like a supernatural thriller, almost a supernatural drama than it is a horror. In my opinion, is it classified as a horror? It is classified as a horror. Yeah. It's a horror slash like thriller slash drama, I believe.
00:32:37
Speaker
Oh, this is like a pure thriller to me. Yeah. Same here with supernatural elements, you know, that's, yeah. Definitely more suspenseful than. Right. Yeah. For sure. It's not scary, but anyways. A few parts were kind of scary. I mean, it's like, oh gosh. There's a couple, but overall it's a slow burn drama. And even at a runtime of an hour and 47 minutes, I will say, speaking of a slow burn, it tended to drag at times for me. Your typical Shyamalan movie.
00:33:06
Speaker
Yeah, there were shots in there that were totally, in my opinion, I get why they were there, but they were like somewhat, you know, irrelevant to the story. I'm going to bring my score down to a seven. I very much enjoyed it. And it was a, it was a nice skip down memory lane for me. It's being Sheleman's big first movie that really put them on the map. Like, Oh God, I'm nice. Sheleman. Oh yeah.
00:33:33
Speaker
It really raised him in popularity. He wrote it and directed it. But as much as I enjoyed it, once, you know, the twist, the movie's kind of done. Cause to me, it's a, it's a character piece. There's three main actors and my hats off out of, I know we all talked about Haley Joel Osman and, uh, you know, Bruce Willis. And to me, I thought Bruce Willis's acting was okay. Wasn't phenomenal. My hats off to Tony Collette. Yes. Yes, absolutely.
00:33:57
Speaker
I absolutely adore Toni Collette and everything she does. She's the main reason I will never watch Hereditary again. I enjoyed it. It's one of those movies I very much agree with Spaz and Nikki where there needs to be a long enough period where you don't remember every little detail. So even though you know the twist, you can kind of enjoy it again. I'm glad we got to watch it, but I don't think it's an absolute like phenomenon. I'm going to watch it every, or absolute phenomenal, you know, movie, not phenomenon.
00:34:24
Speaker
That's a different movie. Yes. That is John Travolta. Yes, it does. I hate that movie. Never saw that one. Yeah, that's a bad one. Oh boy. Anyways, so that's where I'm at. I'm going to put it at a seven. That's just my thoughts. I enjoyed it. It drags at times, even for the shorter runtime. It's like a solid movie you want to give it credit for, but it's not a movie you're going to watch anytime soon again. Right. It's a really good
00:34:52
Speaker
character piece. And it's carried by those three. I mean, that's what the focus is. And I mean, it's got hints of late 90s, early 2000 nuances that you see in a lot of movies, like some of the music, some of the shots. I was like, Oh, this feels a little dated at times. It's solid. It's just one, not one of those were, I know, it's also kind of a, you know, a, you know, downer of a movie in a way. I mean, it's, it's sad. I was incredibly depressing in a way. I was like, damn, this movie is depressing. I was
00:35:18
Speaker
I had to watch Veep afterwards just so I could laugh. I mean, I'm all for the drama here and there, but yeah, it's always a bummer to watch something. It's melancholy. It's not sad. You're not crying. Yeah, you are if you're a mom. It's vivid.
00:35:36
Speaker
I guess to me it's a very melancholy movie. That's just my long ramble. Dear comments about Toni Collette and Nikki's comments about just being a parent watching this. The things that she was able to convey through emotion, just struggling to make ends meet, but at the same time struggling to connect to her son that's obviously going through some terrible experiences in her life and she just feels lost. She doesn't know how to help as a parent. It's gut wrenching because there's times when your own kids are going through things that you wish you could just fix it, but you can't.
00:36:04
Speaker
I think she definitely captured that and she deserved that nomination. I still think that her and Healy deserve to win the awards, but such as the Academy Awards. And they kind of, yeah, they're all made up and the points don't matter.
M. Night Shyamalan's Filmmaking Style
00:36:19
Speaker
Right. Right. Something like that. You know what I was saying while I was watching this though, if I hadn't seen every one of his movies since then, before rewatching this, I may feel differently too.
00:36:32
Speaker
like i know that that's a weird subconscious bias thing but now i feel like i've been let down so many times that i just like
00:36:40
Speaker
I feel like even rewatching this, I went into it was, is this even that good?
Discussion on Influential Directors and Filmmaking
00:36:44
Speaker
Or was I really like, yeah, I thought he's gonna let me down even though I know he's not with this movie. Well, that's the hard thing. And I like some of his work. I do. But he is kind of a one trick pony. His twist got so much accolades that he did it again.
00:37:04
Speaker
And again, you can't keep pulling that trick out of your hat because it gets, it's getting overplayed. Yeah. But that attitude is the exact attitude I had going into it as a same thing, Kerry. And because of that attitude, I think that's why I liked it because I was like, darn it. It actually was better than I remembered, even though I knew, you know, he was a ghost anyway. He's got, he's got some solid movies.
00:37:31
Speaker
What are you thinking about? Science is awful. I like science. Science sucks ass. The village is terrible. Oh my god.
00:37:44
Speaker
Unbreakable. I don't really remember that one too much. Split was good. I've never heard of split. Split is part of a trilogy with Unbreakable. It goes Unbreakable, Split, and Glass or something. So I stopped watching after Unbreakable because I was like, that was stupid.
00:38:03
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't like it at all. I like signs for what it is. And I like it even better after reading the fan theory on it, which is I have to dig it up. I'll send it to you guys afterwards. But to recap it, basically they weren't aliens. They were demons.
00:38:19
Speaker
Ugh. And if you read it in that context, a lot of it makes more sense, like about the water and the priest and the faith and all this stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah. It just, to me, it makes it a little bit better. Why? Because it ties it a little bit. It ties it a little bit tighter. It makes more sense too. Yeah. I see what you're saying. I thought it was fine. I didn't love it. I didn't hate it.
00:38:42
Speaker
Yeah, I'll find the fan theory because it breaks it into a lot more explicit detail. Me giving you a five second snapshot is not going to do it justice. You did wonderful. Thank you, Dan. I'll go back to lotioning the dead bodies. Who said I ever stopped? That's the spirit.
00:39:01
Speaker
Oh dear. You guys said a lot of the things I was going to say as well. So I feel like M. Night Shyamalan is kind of like the Nickelback of filmmakers. Oh wow. That is a good analogy. Yeah. Take a look at this movie.
00:39:15
Speaker
he's incredibly popular for doing kind of the same thing over and over again and in the back of your mind some of it can be good but it's just like it's okay we get it but he's had some crazy success and the one thing I do appreciate about M. Night Shyamalan is that with his films they're pretty much all original he's well aside for the accusations of plagiarism borrowing ideas and stuff but it's not like hey I'm just gonna take this book or this comic I'm just gonna rehash something or do a remake it's all for the most part
00:39:43
Speaker
mostly original stories, which we don't get enough of. So that's why I can appreciate what he does. But he does lean on some behaviors where you just kind of go into it expecting something. So it kind of it takes it away.
00:39:57
Speaker
And his movies have had just such a crazy swing of success. I mean, obviously, The Sixth Sense was the most successful film he's ever done between, you know, the cinema score and the Rotten Tomatoes score, but then see his Rotten Tomatoes, which whatever, it's Rotten Tomatoes. Sixth Sense has it as an 86%. And then it swings all the way down to The Last Airbender, which is five.
00:40:17
Speaker
which everybody agrees. We don't talk about that move. Nope. Nope. All right. Skip the last airbender, but then you have after earth right after that, which is at 11%. So that's another, I don't remember after earth. It's another disaster, but at least I can appreciate that. His, I guess it's like, he's having kind of a resurgence now. I bet. Yeah. Did you see old? I did not. I heard he got mixed reviews, but they tended to decide more on the positive. I'm trying to think of the one about the grandparents. Apparently it was like his kind of his comeback. Cause it was apparently pretty funny, but also crazy.
00:40:46
Speaker
The one about the visit. Yeah, the visit. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he, he funded it. Most of them, most of himself, if I remember correctly, if I read that right, like he paid for most. Yeah. I feel like I've watched that, but it's, it's, I have to check it out again. I think I did see it.
00:41:00
Speaker
I think that's a good point though, Tim, about having original movies. I do appreciate his storytelling. And one of the things that I was doing a bit of research and I had fun rewatching it, since I know the twist that was going to happen, I could not pay attention to that piece of it and then kind of focus more on Cole and obviously his mom. So I got a lot more out of that story than I ever had before. But one of the things I really liked was the use of red in this film. And I was doing some digging around and reading some stories and articles about
00:41:29
Speaker
the importance of it. If you can recall, the color red is only used in very specific moments of this film. And it basically symbolizes the moment where you have the real world kind of colliding with the supernatural, such as the big obviously one is that doorknob Malcolm trying to get into his basement. It's a red doorknob. So that stands out because it's front and center in your face. His wife is actually wearing red in every scene. Except the first scene. Except for the first scene. Yeah. So she's always wearing red. So him interacting with her is kind of that, that kind of crossover.
00:41:56
Speaker
And I'll just kind of rapid fire this. Obviously you got Cole's tent, the doors to the church, the balloon leading up to that room where he gets kind of that first encounter with a ghost that we see. His wife's shop is basically just covered in red, the carpets, everything. Cole's sweater. And at Cole's mom, she's only wearing red at the very end when he's actually revealing. He can talk to ghosts and communicate. So it's the only time that she wears red this whole thing.
00:42:19
Speaker
The time that Malcolm realizes that Vincent may have been hearing things is in that tape recorder when he's listening. You can suddenly hear this, this voice speaking. And as he's turning up the volume on his tape recorder, it goes from white to red on the dial. So that's kind of like, as he's tuning into this supernatural experience, it's getting to that red, which I thought was really cool. That shitty mother that was, that was,
00:42:44
Speaker
Killing her kids with the whatever poison at the funeral. Obviously everyone's wearing black. It's a funeral. She's wearing red, which is crazy. And then obviously the box that Kira gives Cole is kind of a wrapped in red.
00:42:58
Speaker
I think it's a powerful symbolism of kind of that crossover between the two, which was kind of fun to knowing that and watching it and trying to point out all these moments where I see it and it has a very specific purpose. So that was kind of cool as a filmmaker and storyteller. That's, that's a cool piece to have in there. Another thing I thought was, was great doing some research was about the production, about why Bruce Willis was in this role. He wasn't cast in it, but he owed them this role because of the Broadway Brawler, a movie that never came out and they wasted a ton of money.
00:43:28
Speaker
And he was basically forced into a three picture agreement just to make up the cost for it and took a lower salary on this role. I think he feels like $3 million instead of his normal rate, which is still a lot of money. But either way, he was forced into the role of The Sixth Sense, The Kid, and Armageddon, which those three movies combined grossed $1.3 billion. So go figure.
00:43:48
Speaker
I mean Armageddon is a great one. I loved that one. It's nostalgic for me. I have my reasons. It's fine. I really like this film and I thought it was just brilliantly acted. I agree, Chris, that I think Bruce Willis just kind of
00:44:09
Speaker
mailed it in. He didn't really sell anything to me on his acting in this one. He was just kind of there. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I felt. Okay. Yeah. So I agree with you there, but obviously you got Haley and Tony and to me it was their movie and they just, they owned the roles, they own their scenes and it was great. And the writer's guild of America voted this in 2013 as number 50 in the top 101 screenplays of all time.
00:44:37
Speaker
And I think it is a great story like you guys were saying. Not something you watch all the time. There's some movies that you can watch all the time and enjoy. This is not one of them. I enjoy watching it, but it's not something you dial up every year. Like you said, 20 years sounds like a good spot because you might forget some things or you might introduce this to somebody for the first time. It might be fun to watch it with them, but it's one of those rare movies that it's great to only watch periodically and that's it.
00:44:59
Speaker
Yep. I'm, I'm glad we got the opportunity to do it. I don't see myself in the future watching this anytime soon. I'm probably not going to see it again. Yeah. Or ever again. Right. You got everything you could out of this film. And he's got some great ideas and can write a story, but when you lean on your, what you're known for, everyone just expects things and it takes away from the viewing experience. So right.
Conclusion and Humorous Sign-off
00:45:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:24
Speaker
Another one who's kind of like that, that when you were talking about sort of one trick pony and, I mean, not the same, but reminds me of Quentin Tarantino, where I feel like he's very polarizing, like he doesn't love or hate his stuff. You're 110% correct because I do not care for his movies. I don't either. I like some. I don't like them all.
00:45:49
Speaker
I'll have a conversation with like my dad. My dad, he's enjoyed the majority of his movies. There's a few movies my dad has like zero interest in. Yeah. But I'm just like, I can't stand them. I have tried. There's a couple that I enjoyed more so than others, even though I haven't finished it. Shame on me. I very much enjoyed like Django Unchained. I don't get the poll. That's okay if I don't get it. That's fine. Each two year old, everyone has their own, you know? Like I saw a hateful eight and was like, yep.
00:46:19
Speaker
you know i don't think i saw that one actually i feel the same way about all of the above the only one i like is jackie brown and like i haven't seen that oh it's a good one that one is a better one
00:46:30
Speaker
I like Kill Bill. I enjoyed Kill Bill. Maybe because it was, I don't want to say dumbed down because that's insulting, but like more concise. It didn't have the long rambling character. I can't recall. It's been so many years. But anyways, yeah, you're right. He is very polarizing. The Coen brothers are the same way too. Yes. Agreed. Yes. But it's not just the polarizing. I feel like Nikki was even similarly a one-trick Coen kind of thing. Even though the stories are very different, the feel of a lot of the movies. Oh, it's kind of the same. The wide shots, the single takes. Yeah.
00:47:00
Speaker
the off-the-wall characters or the actors that play roles that you would never expect them to be in. Yeah. All that said, even though I probably won't watch this movie for a long time, maybe when I introduce it to my girls when they're older,
00:47:15
Speaker
I may never watch it again after that, but because of what it accomplished, the story, the acting, there's so much to it. I really, really loved getting a chance to rewatch this again with a different lens, a little older, a little different frame of mind. So I'm actually coming in really high, guys. I'm coming in at a nine. To me, I feel like it definitely is one of those great movies of all time. And fortunately, it set the stage for End Night and it was also his downfall.
00:47:43
Speaker
I think it's got a lot of great moments to it. Great acting. Everybody should see this film at least once and get a chance to see it. Even if it's, you know, it's spoiled to you. It's obviously the I see dead people and everyone knows that quote, but it's worth checking out at least once. So with my nine
00:48:03
Speaker
Everyone else's score, we get an average of a 7.3, which is a 0.42 increase from our nostalgia. So it actually went up for everybody except for Chris. You're welcome. Oh, and Dana. Dana was flat. Dana was flat. Yeah, Dana was flat. Who went up a half point? Me.
00:48:25
Speaker
Yeah. And then, uh, did Nikki leave it at six? No, I went a little point. But you, you went down to a seven, so you both agreed it's a seven. Yeah. I think it's a solid seven. You just, you just came out of gate too hot.
00:48:40
Speaker
We had way too high expectations. Well, I mean, it's a good movie, but just watching it after 23 years, it is starting, you know, and aspects to show its age slightly, in my opinion. Yeah. You know, that's all. Yeah. You know, well, very good. I think that settles it. Then we're.
00:48:58
Speaker
a little bit above what we thought, but that's the way it goes sometimes. Also, I feel I need to formally apologize to Dana. It wasn't a bad pectana. It was very wild. Sorry for my saltiness. I was going to say, you could have been watching science. But you just never know what you're going to get. Thanks for listening to the show. Make sure to follow them at OSWPodcast.com and leave your thoughts on the next movie nostalgia review. Now, peace out bitches.