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Season 2- Episode 42- Your Guess is As Good As Ours (Premiership Round 15 & Super Rugby AU Round 8)
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Oh boy, hang on to your hats, there's a lot to get through here. Your favorite American Rugby knuckleheads really get into all the action from last weekend AND dive into the week to come, including a bust week in the Premiership. Feel free to skip to your preferred or favorite section of this one. We start off talking Super Rugby AU (7:55) including some big referee oopses, offsides much? We bring it back north for the 2nd weekend of the Premiership since the restart (20:13) and we give our best crack at a bust week of fantasy in this week's start or sit (1:02:21). Tune in for all this and the usual stupid banter you'd expect from us! Snap off a beer and enjoy.
Ask us questions via Twitter: Jarrod- jdyke8man & Ben- admrablsnackbar. Send us your thoughts for the show and questions for upcoming shows via e-mail fantasyrugbypodcast@gmail.com. Of course we welcome feedback via e-mail, twitter or by rating/reviewing the pod on Apple Podcast. Once again, we are back at with the #AskTFRY Friday's (and Tuesday) on twitter before the kickoff of the first match of the weekend in the Premiership.
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Transcript
Introduction and Rugby Discussion
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is a fancy rugby. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Let's get into it. Wild weekend and we got a big week ahead of us too. Holy shit. There's a lot going here. Yeah. Like this was some entertaining matches. So much better quality. So just like we saw with Aotearoa and Australia, week two showed much better than week one. All around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:00:34
Speaker
Yeah. We, you know, they talked about the penalties and all the matches and stuff. I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's, yeah.
Referee Decisions in Rugby
00:00:41
Speaker
Hemisphere referees like to get involved. So yeah, there were a couple, but we got involved. Yeah. Um, so yeah. I mean, we saw a lot in, in, uh, Australia this weekend of the referees just being like, Oh, you know what? You know, there were a lot of tries scored off forward passes and other kinds of shenanigans. It was a try. Let's let it stand. Like, well, okay.
00:01:02
Speaker
I couldn't believe some of them. I was like, ah, all right, I guess we're going with it. All right. We're going to do that now. That's okay. Look, as long as if everybody can do it, that's all that matters. Like, yeah, you can throw past like three meters forward and let it be a line break for a try. Yeah, whatever. Good enough. That was enough. I was like, okay, I guess we're going to play it through. Let's go libation here. Oh yeah.
Podcast Availability and Feedback Request
00:01:30
Speaker
Live nation.
00:01:33
Speaker
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00:01:57
Speaker
this operation would be far smoother than it's gone in the last two and a half years. What people don't seem to maybe know is that we're not, both of us are actually extremely thin. We've just got really thick skin. Yeah. It's just thick skin. Something to that, uh, that affects, I suppose. Uh, yeah.
Rugby Magazine Upgrades and Strategies
00:02:17
Speaker
Um, obviously this week it's a huge week for the rugby magazine. Um,
00:02:23
Speaker
get your upgrades. It's going to make your life so much easier with all the, with all the, with all the rotation that's about to happen between either, you know, maybe, maybe the squad doesn't rotate completely in the midweek cause they're working on, you know, a certain game, but man, either one, either this weekend or the midweek came, you're gonna, you're gonna want it. So, um, get your upgrade, um, you know, support the guys at the rugby mag there. They're awesome. So, uh, get that, that way your life will be easier. Um, also,
00:02:50
Speaker
Make sure that you're checking out George. He's going to have all kinds of tips. I'm sure George is working overtime right now. Absolutely. All the, uh, all the, uh, fancy notes and such. Um, usually if we get it wrong, George has got it right. So just remember that one of the three of us will get it right. I promise. Um, so yeah, make sure you check out George, buy him a beer, coffee, et cetera as well.
Support for Black Lives Matter and Social Issues
00:03:14
Speaker
Um, quick note on the, obviously we, we are always going to be in support of Black Lives Matter. Um,
00:03:20
Speaker
I think it was pretty clear that as much as was made about the South Africans and even guys like Billy V.
00:03:28
Speaker
Um, it's not that they're against, against it per se. They're supportive of their teammates. You know, um, I think was it two, two of the South Africans were holding mile in yards hand while he was on any, um, pregame there. So I think it's clear that they support, they support these guys. Yeah. And I wasn't even saying it was obviously I, I, I try to be open mind, you know, you know, again,
00:03:54
Speaker
Americans are far more racist than South Africans in general. So I, you know, I'm not pointing fingers so much as just noticing trends. Correct. So yeah, but it's good to see that they it's not, you know, yeah, they support the movement. It's just not, you know, the kneeling thing. And I kind of get that. Yeah. I would just prefer it if they did as a show. But we did, you know, we haven't even yet another reason to be talking about it, though, because there was another black man shot.
00:04:25
Speaker
I would love to have a teammate that's Jake Blake, by the way. That's somebody who I'm like, no, I want to be his rugby teammate.
00:04:37
Speaker
you know, he's fighting for his life. So not hoping he survives. Hope he's, yeah, we makes it through. This means something, you know, every time we see this happen and do nothing, and don't speak up, just, you know, we're asking for more, you know, more Jake Blakes. You can't have that. Yeah. And you know, and while we're, and we'll touch on this really quickly, because we don't want to get too deep into it, because we do have other stuff, but it's definitely worth something opening up about.
Critique of World Rugby and US Rugby's Role
00:05:06
Speaker
We talked about it a couple weeks ago when Jess joined us. World Rugby's got it wrong. It's not a mystery to anybody that's listened to this podcast for one of the five seconds, but to have a bunch of old white dudes make a decision about nothing they have any clue about,
00:05:25
Speaker
just speaks to the volumes of problems that we face as... When has that ever gone well? It's never gone well. Of course it hasn't. This is not a recent thing. This is just not going well overall. So yeah, I myself, you know, I've, I've gone fairly outspoken on it on social media in it. And you know, these are people that they're people.
00:05:50
Speaker
They're people, they need to stop looking at them like science experiments, like Jesus. We're not, there's so many things I could say. But we're still trying to live their life. I mean, yeah. And can you have no empathy or sympathy or can't imagine yourself in their shoes?
00:06:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And you know, they're, they're all like, Oh, it was, it was science based. I'm like, yeah, it's the same science base that something like what the health or unwell was based on. Get the fuck right. There's a lot of, there's a lot of things that are quote unquote science base. You know, it's just, yeah, get out of here with your sciences.
00:06:27
Speaker
Yeah, no, so I personally will definitely always stand up for their right to play the game cuz this is a game for everybody. And if we're gonna peddle that message, we've sent the wrong one as is. So I hope somebody comes to their senses eventually.
00:06:48
Speaker
You know, in my opinion, I think this is the place where because the US rugby, and we know what a fucking shambled that is, because they completely just fucked it for the women's team, this is something that they believe in heavily. So if the US wants to try and make things right, this would be a good place for them to start stepping up. Yeah. For them to go to the door of world rugby and say, you fucked up.
00:07:10
Speaker
I don't think it's gonna happen on the US level, at least not that high up, coming out of the offices in Colorado, it would be nice. And it would be a good way to start setting things right. I don't believe in the US rugby system at the moment, so that's just where that's at.
00:07:31
Speaker
So yeah, all right, let's go another note, shall we?
Rugby Match Analyses: Southern Hemisphere
00:07:35
Speaker
Let's find something else to talk about. Let's go SuperRugby.au, how about that? That sounds like fun. Yeah, jeez, I mean, it was fun, but really, you know, not competitive in a whole lot of ways. Not so much. Yeah, go through the scores real quick here. Force five, reds 57. Yeah, that was kind of gross, but yeah.
00:07:59
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, so let's go to, let's go over to the force way here. Yeah, it wasn't, I mean, this is a red team that they were kind of stumbling. And then they obviously fixed themselves against the Rebels and now they're on the uptick again. So this is the exact wrong time for a team like the force to run into this team. It was competitive for a bit, but, yeah, but, so. Yeah, it kind of got,
00:08:29
Speaker
There's a lot of, like, let's also give credit to the referee. They did a fantastic job in the whole crew. There was like a, who was it? Tate McDermott's, what would have been his hat trick try and the TMO was like, no, he knocked it on, like knocked it on angle. Like they didn't even get to the TMO. TMO was just already like, no, no, no try. So like that's, how hard is that?
00:08:56
Speaker
That was a very well- It's nice to see that, yeah. My only complaint is that the refereeing should have made it a little bit harder on the Reds towards the end. Make them be perfect, not-
00:09:08
Speaker
You can't you can't let that go in this kind of situation because it's already you know That's gonna get ugly. It was out of hand. It was out of hand So make them earn the point, you know, don't just be like, ah, they they should have scored that try let them have it like Let's you know, let's not make it like let's give let's have this, you know, give give the force something they're gonna lose. Let's not make it Let's not just let it get ugly
00:09:36
Speaker
No. I mean, James O'Connor, well over 20 odd points. He got, what'd they say? He's the first guy to get a hundred points with three different clubs in Australia. I was like, Oh yeah. So, I mean, certainly speaks to his level of ability, but that's for sure. Definitely. And he had himself a hell of a match. He loses both his centers in the first half. Yeah. So he ends up playing center and Hagerty comes to 10. Yeah.
00:09:59
Speaker
Um, and then that really, you know, Connor, even his, I think he's like the, the playmaking as far as him being the one getting run off of, um, rather than, than just distributing. Um, I thought that was fantastic. That was, that was really, he, he wore that 12 Jersey really well. Well, it's a position. Yeah. Yeah. He's, um, he's not, he's not too bad. Um, Moses Sirobi made a reappearance. He, we haven't seen him for a little while. Um, didn't, didn't look so bad. No.
00:10:28
Speaker
Yeah, it was um, yeah, I mean if this was a if this was a a better team, sorry force This was a better team. The reds probably would have been in trouble losing both their centers so damn fast. Yeah Turned out to be not such a big deal No, but yeah, that's definitely something that can go very around like their offense their attack like Opened up after that. They said all right. Well, we can't It's not like we can pound it with our centers. So let's let's run it wide and that really uh
00:10:55
Speaker
I think that's kind of why the score got out of hand. They, they pretty much stayed in control of it, but, but like kept the pace low. Uh, in the first half, it just opened up. I felt bad for, I felt bad for fluke, especially cause he's a young kid. I think it was his first start. Um, and you know, that's just like, Oh man, you know, this is your first start and it ends in 20 minutes. Cause you get a, you get an injury that was, that was really unfortunate looking. Yeah, that was bad. That's unfortunate.
00:11:25
Speaker
Yeah, just, you know, what are you gonna do? And I mean, Tate McDermott, we talked about him last week possibly being, you know, the Wallabies nine. I think he needs to be wearing a gold shirt at the very least. I know he's playing against a lesser opponent, but damn, he still knows where to find gaps. Yeah, he does. And yeah, he's great in support. His distributions.
00:11:49
Speaker
Been pretty damn good leads people into you know where they need to be or gets it to them if they want to distribute like He gives a good service and he can run The fuck more do you need? Yeah. No, it's it's hard to say that you need more than that
00:12:03
Speaker
Yeah, so really really this is probably one of the least we've seen the for the force and you know, they fight tooth and nail for about 60 65 minutes and make it interesting and then they and then they like oh when it's just you know, it's a sign of you know, the lack of depth it's a sign of their their fitness levels and
00:12:22
Speaker
you know, ABC, you know, XYZ, it's all, it's, it's a bunch of stuff. And, you know, hopefully they are in the competition next year and they can raise their game a little bit and they can get a little bit of capital from rugby, uh, uh, Australia, the P. Yeah. You can see that you can see how some of the guys are kind of just in MLR shape and yeah, not always great. Yeah. They need to get to super industrial issue.
00:12:42
Speaker
Yeah, so it will be a long road ahead for the force. One more game, two more games, two more games. So we'll see if they can, you know, at least make one close. They made the, obviously they made the Rebels game close and Rebels kind of made it close on their own self, but you know.
00:13:00
Speaker
We'll see what happens. Um, let's go to GIO, uh, Rumbies and Wartos. This was an, you know, build a fairly competitive game and, you know, Dan Bickerman cup on the line and so forth. Um, I love Dan Bickerman by the way. I just, I just got to say that every time they play, they, they put this cup out there on Mike.
00:13:17
Speaker
Oh man, I remember him as a player and then I remember what happened to him afterwards and it was just so sad. It was just so very sad. But so I do enjoy it. I like this match only if for no other reason other than that. So yep, it's gonna stay in Canberra.
00:13:37
Speaker
They had a slight, slight edge the first time around. This time it was much more convincing, even with some of the changes that they had with like Lonergan coming in, Salomonikata on at 13 instead of 12, with Simone sticking around at 12.
00:13:57
Speaker
Yeah, it's um, this runby's team is obviously very good. It's not news You know really isn't uh, certainly not. Uh, you know feinga, uh had a risk, um, McInerney came in And uh, looked pretty good. Actually it was his throws were um, were better than feinga's I can say that Yeah, they you didn't seem like that, you know
00:14:21
Speaker
They've certainly there were more than there were much worse throws in the other match. So Yeah, this is this looked much more competent in the in the set piece in general
00:14:32
Speaker
Yeah, it was, you know, it was, it's, they talked about, and it was really surprising that the Reds couldn't take advantage of it, but the Waratahs are just a very small pack. And really, to me, part of the reason is, one, Tom Horton's not a big guy right now. He's, you know, he's a young, he's a youngster, hasn't put the bulk on yet.
00:14:54
Speaker
So he needs to, you know, he doesn't need to put on a ton of KGs, but he does need to put a few on. And I'm not talking about in the middle either. I'm saying you should probably make sure they go somewhere either to his legs or shoulders. And then, Ned Hanigan, it's probably his best position lock, honestly. I don't like him at Flanker. He's not, he's dynamic, but he's not accurate when he's out there. But again, he's undersized as a lock.
00:15:21
Speaker
He's built probably like a six, which some people say that's fine, but he's the six that, you know, he's not a lock that bumped out to six. He's a six that bumped into a lock. Not like a Courtney Lawz. Yes, exactly. Not like that. And you know, it sounds like they're the same, but they are different. Yeah. So yeah, Joey Walton, you know, didn't acquit himself super well in this match. He has had better games.
00:15:45
Speaker
This was not one of them. This was not one of them by any means whatsoever. You know, I thought Gus did them pretty hard with that. Was it the one I can try that opened things up? I was like, that's not, that's offsides.
00:16:02
Speaker
That's the thing. He's like, well, I awarded a trial already. So there has to be a reason for me to to overturn it. And it's like, yeah, they can mean that the scrum half still standing like a meter in front of the guy who just kicked it and the 20 to put on side like 22 was right there for reference. Yeah, that's the sad part. Like that was right there for reference to use for him to go. Oh, yeah, he's in front of the line and the kick comes from behind the line.
00:16:23
Speaker
game over, that's a penalty. It's on the TMO a little bit, but it's also on the referee to just open your eyes and be like, oh fuck, I missed that. My bad penalty. And then as it wore on, you saw that it got a little chippy because of shit like that. You let something
00:16:45
Speaker
Let something go. It can do that, yeah. And you feel like, oh, that kind of just was the snowballed from there. So you don't feel like you have any sway with the referee. And then you take it out of the other team. That seemed like the toz were doing a lot of afters. Yeah, a little bit. And then, I guess, yeah, the referee had to sort and step in and sort it out after a try. Can't remember whose it was. Mm-hmm.
Rugby Match Analyses: Northern Hemisphere
00:17:10
Speaker
It might have been after Murhead's try.
00:17:14
Speaker
No, it wasn't. It was a different one. Oh, it was one of the right tries. That's one. Yeah, it's one of the right tries. I think he shoved Jake Gordon or something and he's like, don't do that. And, you know, like, yeah, okay. Like, but that's, you know, that should be, he's like, yeah, it should be fun, but it's not because they're pissed because the referee already fucked him up. Yeah. So he's got to come in and sort that shit out.
00:17:39
Speaker
Yeah, I do want to give quite a bit of credit to Tom Horton. He got thrown into a bit of the fire here, not knowing that he was going to have to play this much and he's done fairly well. You know, we talked about his, he's a little undersized, but again, that's played to his benefit in the loose and he's used it. He's got himself at least one, if not two tries.
00:17:58
Speaker
in open play, so I give him a lot of credit for having to do what he's doing. Kind of short notice and being like, I did not know that I would have to start a hooker almost every game, but okay. He'll take it, I'm sure. And he hasn't performed terribly by any means whatsoever. There was one other thing that was on my brain. Oh yeah, Nick White. Nick White coming back to Australia finally. Where the hell has he been?
00:18:25
Speaker
I guess he had to go into quarantine and that was part of the problem. I'm also not missing him at all from Exeter. I was kind of happy to see their scrum halves, although they've been doing okay, but not Nick White level. So that makes me happy to speak. I'm perfectly happy to see Nick White back in Australia. Yeah. You stay there, Nick. You're good. You're good there. You stay there.
00:18:47
Speaker
And we found out a little bit from, um, the sideline interviews. Um, Alessio was not far away from coming back, which is a terrifying thing for the rest of the competition. I think because if, you know, Billy Kunzel's done pretty well for himself. And, you know, you have, you have him, you have Alessio coming back. It was definitely better than him by far, honestly. Um, if, you know, you have Powell and Nick white potentially as your one, two scrum half combination, although I'm sure Lonergan is going to have something to say about that.
00:19:17
Speaker
but still, like...
00:19:19
Speaker
There there's a lot to be feared for the brumbees if they start uh, and it wouldn't surprise me I mean the hamstrings are are are touchy, but it's been already what like three weeks at least So he should be coming I mean that it should be at most just like if it's a really bad one unless you've like, you know torn it or something like that But it's like severely torn it but it's usually like a two to four weaker Yeah, so and if it's if it's bad, it's maybe a little bit longer than that, you know if they were if they want to be uh cautious, that's cool, but
00:19:48
Speaker
Yeah, there's no reason why he shouldn't be playing again. Yeah, he said he's running again, so... Yeah. I would suspect we're going to see... Probably even before the knockout round starts, I would suspect we'll see. Yeah, I was going to think he'd at least be back for the knockout round, but... Oh, yeah, I think he'll definitely be back for them, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's back before that. So, yeah, good to see that. I really like him, so I hope we get to see him a little bit more before this competition ends.
00:20:13
Speaker
Okay, let's go back north. Friday, a wild Friday for all of us. Friday Saturday for everybody to just pack it all in and sit back and watch. Let's go over to up to AJ Bell.
00:20:28
Speaker
Sale 22, actually I'll go through the scores real quick. Sale 22, exit 32, wasps, take care of Worcester 32, 17. A humdinger over at Kingsville, Gloucester 24, Bristol 33, Saturday, Saracens take care of business 38, 24. Northampton finally wake up and beat the Irish three to 27, and then Lester and Bath, Bath take down Lester fairly easily, 38 to 16. Let's go over to AJ Bell, sale and exit her.
00:20:57
Speaker
Uh, this was, this was, this started off pretty good. And then, um, either exit or woke up or say I went to sleep and I'm trying to figure out which one it is. I couldn't tell you. I mean, although I have the feeling it was more sale going to sleep because they, they got some, some sneaky tries. They did get some, they got some nice looking tries. Honestly, the Curry and the, and the Dapria try were both very nice. Right. Well executed.
00:21:25
Speaker
But yeah, like at Luke Cowindicky, quick, you know, quick tap and go. What are you doing? Like they're talking about it and you can hear him talking about it. Right. They still, they still go to sleep on it. Like stop the bowling ball. That should, that should be stopped, you know, well before you get to premiership level rugby. Like this, this is a, it's pretty simple. That's something you see at, you know, at the club level, not, not, not at a, you know, not at this level. Yeah. It's an amateur hour there.
00:21:53
Speaker
Yeah. Calendiki and Simmons both told us to go fuck ourselves for a set of the week. Big time. 30 plus, both of them. No, I had Calendiki as a start, didn't I? Yeah, but I had him as a set of the week. Oh, okay. Well, then there... Yeah, okay. And you had Simmons. Yeah.
00:22:13
Speaker
All right. Oops, although I will see that cuz I was gonna say that I was right about pretty much every other player for Exeter except for that Sam Simmons and that was a way wrong one to be wrong about yeah Yeah, and that was a good that was a very well worth try to like sure was great great pass great Great line and good support line from Simmons as well. So yeah, it was well deserved everybody everybody executed very well and
00:22:42
Speaker
You know, they did it they did it um, kind of the way you wanted to do you well in in some ways Yes, because they had the they had the Simmons and the hog try which were both very dynamic and and very open and then they had the ugly ones like the Dickey and the vermulan try so yeah, it's this is kind of what you hope Exeter can be in some ways. Yeah that penalty count though
00:23:06
Speaker
Like that was like it was ridiculous. It was like what 22 to 9 or something like I can't remember it was double digits to single digits and like in the 20s for For sale to single digits for exit at one point. It's like well I could tell you who's winning on the scoreboard just based on that because I know how you know, we all know how exit or play You give them penalties. They're gonna just put in the corner and end up working it in for a try It was 18 penalties to 13 by the end of it Okay
00:23:34
Speaker
Shit. I could have sworn Exeter had a lot more. I'm sorry. Sail had a lot more. Yeah, that's where the last one came, at least. Then, fine. Yeah. I mean, and, you know, the changes were wrong. I think Steve Diamond might have made the changes just a wee bit too late by the time, you know, Kerry got the yellow card and that was...
00:23:57
Speaker
That was kind of those. Yeah, that was kind of it at that point. Yeah, I was like Count Dickey got got his and that was kind of all she wrote after that. Yeah, I'm gonna got a consolation and it was good. It was a well-worked move as it was good bit good bit of passing from the back line there and
00:24:15
Speaker
Finally got him over in the corner there. Sorry to see Byron McGuigan go down in a heap and like he got sniped or something because, yeah, he just went dead on the field as soon as he felt it. That's not a good thing. That's not how I work. I don't work. Nope. Yeah, it wasn't good.
00:24:39
Speaker
Yeah, he didn't even have the, sometimes you have like the hobble, like the player really tries to get through. He was like, nope, done. Oh, he was just done. He was just done. And that's really too bad for them because he is definitely one of their best finishers. I mean, he doesn't do a whole lot other things, but he doesn't know where the try line is and he can usually get over it. And sale needs that really right now.
00:25:00
Speaker
They definitely need playmakers. They've got enough workers. Not so much on the fleet of foot burnier around the outside. So that's gonna be, yeah, that's gonna be hard the next couple of weeks. Yeah, they're gonna need Salomon to definitely step in and show his worth. And he looks ready anyway. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they gotta find, I don't know if they're gonna bring in,
00:25:30
Speaker
Maybe they'll, I think. Are there any other South Africans available for them? I think they need to, I think, I do think they need to find either, either they can put Ben Rensberg or they can put Sam Hill back in at 12 and get two E out to 13. Cause that's probably his best position at this level. And in terms of being the most effective in attack. Um, and cause you know, you saw what he could do. He carried frigging three guys on one of the tries. I was just like, geez, I'm strong. You know? So it's just, um,
00:26:00
Speaker
Yes, it's really unfortunate. One more thing on next year. I don't love Cuthbert. Let me just say that. I don't love Cuthbert. I feel like O'Flaherty kind of got the shaft because Cuthbert does nothing for me personally. And I like O'Flaherty way more than him. I mean, it seems to be just the split, that's all.
00:26:25
Speaker
We have we have exiters line up for yeah. Oh, yeah. He's in and he's playing so he's he's gonna be one of the one of you know, the midweek wing that's I that's just the The the way that they're gonna divvy it up. So yeah, we'll find out. Yeah It sucks to not get picked but I think I don't think that matters as much. I think they're trying to keep as much
00:26:47
Speaker
Quality as they can over the cool though, you know over the span of these games Like Don Armand, you know, he's he's gonna be a starter like there These are the guys were kind of you know, either fringe guys plus some some regular starters. Mm-hmm. Absolutely Yeah, so yeah, they'll get theirs. There's gonna be a lot of playing time going around for everybody. No doubt. Yeah
00:27:07
Speaker
But I mean, I guess if that's the one guy of quality you have to sacrifice, then whatever, hopefully he can show himself in the midweek here. All right, let's skip a few more things and let's go down to, where do you wanna start? You wanna start at Kingsville or do you wanna go over to Rico?
00:27:28
Speaker
I'm just actually just sitting here, I put on, for the pot, I put on Wasp's Wooster, because I only watched like 10 minutes of this match. Just after halftime. So let's get through it, because. Yeah, I mean, it was a decent competitive match. Not super pretty. Yeah, I mean, Wooster, we're leading at half. So I kind of, that's why I tuned in. I was like, oh, let me at least see what happens here.
00:27:56
Speaker
because it was, I think it was between matches essentially. And so when, when Willis is good as another Tom Willis played for his brother and did just as well and performed just as well. Um, August played amazing. He's, this is a backup hooker and he was playing at seven and he did fantastic for this team. Um, I know, I understand that both teams were very, very much changed teams, but, um, still, I think that speaks very well of him. Um,
00:28:23
Speaker
you know, it's just, it's really hard to ignore that. So I, it's crazy to go from hooker to, to six too. That's a, that's a switch right there. So to go to seven is, is impressive and he performed well. He performed very well. So, uh, loads of credit to him and he's, he's young and they, they love him. So,
00:28:43
Speaker
Um, yeah, I mean as if they don't have enough back roads already maybe yeah, maybe maybe that's why he's a hooker because they're like You know what? Our back row is pretty pretty stacked. But if yes, if you can just throw in Be accurate in your throws your you got a job
00:28:59
Speaker
Yeah, and yeah, and he might, you know, that's competitive too with Cruz and Taylor. So I mean, I have to, and I think we need it before we, we should give, get into Worcester a little bit here, but I have to give Lee Black, it's so much credit because this was a team that kind of lost their way. And you know, Dayoung was very highly spoken up.
00:29:18
Speaker
Although you and I both had a different different opinion And eventually he lost the room anyway, so it doesn't matter and Lee black. It's got this team playing so much better I don't know if it was him that made that switch to Jacob Umaga at 10, but he's been another he's been another world. Obviously. He didn't start at 10 at this game Soap Waga is lost. I'm sorry. He is lost and listen, this is a quality player and I like Lima Soap Waga and
00:29:42
Speaker
He is lost out there for this team. And I don't know what it is that he is missing, but he needs to find it if he wants to play ever again
Bristol Bears and Match Standings Update
00:29:53
Speaker
for this team. He may just be bored, to be perfectly honest. He's used to, I get the ball, I pass it off. I get the ball, I pass it off. And now it's, I watched the forwards crashed it. I watch, we're going for a kick. Okay, now we're gonna set up the events.
00:30:10
Speaker
box to get back to me. Like there's, there's not nearly as much ball in hand. So I think he's just trying to make things happen when he can, because otherwise it never really does. Right. But I mean, there, there is that, but Umaga has found a way to make himself an impact at the same time. So what is it that Umaga is doing that makes him so effective that soap Wagga has failed to fail to grasp? And that's a good, that's a very good question.
00:30:38
Speaker
you know, so he's, and you know, even when Umaga came on for the 10 minutes he was on or so, he was effective. You know, he was, he made line breaks. Ryan Mills looked really good in this. I'm glad he got the start. He, I thought he was, he was destined for a try and he just came up short. He looked, he looked really good.
00:31:00
Speaker
Yeah. So this was, of course, he, of course, Mills is going to play this game. They're not going to, they're not going to not play him for, for Worcester. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, and then this before we'll get into Worcester a little bit. Um, I just do, do want to cover one more thing. Um,
00:31:14
Speaker
I feel like Vylon is kind of the odd man out right now. He couldn't even get a start in this game. And I think he was very sought after by Dye, but I don't think Lee Blackett has as much of a soft spot for him. So he is an out and out Dave, man. He's not gonna play any other position. He's learned more or less learned from Billy while at Saracens. So that's basically the mold he's in, but he's just, he's missing something. He's chunky.
00:31:42
Speaker
So that's probably a big part of the problem. And we, you and I both know that one of the biggest problems with Billy is when he's not in shape, he's not as effective. So, you know, I think that comes down to what we're talking about. Yeah. I think that's what it really comes down to. Go, go find the guy that worked with Billy and Big Will Skelton and you might, uh, or I think it's a woman actually. Um, uh, but go find the, go find them and,
00:32:05
Speaker
Yeah self on a food plan of some sort buddy because if you can cut down some of those kgs Yeah, you might see a lot more playing time Yeah, cuz I mean like if you know if you're a class player, even if you're a little chunky You should be able to work in a start between you know, now that it's almost split squad But he's a reserve in even the midweek game. So Yeah, he's got to get his shit together somehow
00:32:29
Speaker
Yeah, I do wanna, excuse me, I do wanna highlight a couple of guys. We didn't touch on this last time, actually, another guy. We didn't touch on this last part. What is going on with Duncan Weir's hair? My God, what is going on with that lid? It's like blow out on a blowout. It looks like an in shape Jonah Hill from Superbad.
00:32:53
Speaker
That might be the best way to put it. Oh God that is like that's so much late. I've never seen that type of lettuce on Not on him Funny cuz he still has the little baby chub to him. Yeah He's not out of shape. He's just got that little chub Yeah, it's just a very uh, oh my god, very solid look I absolutely appreciate it
00:33:19
Speaker
Yeah, good Lord. Yeah, I do wanna highlight a couple of guys that played pretty well that most people aren't gonna know about. Beck Cutting got himself over the line first one, I believe that was his first try in in Premiership, but he's only had two starts or two games, so rather so good on him.
00:33:36
Speaker
I know it was just a little mall over tribe and the whole team basically joined it, but hey, it works, man. Whatever you get, you get over, you get over, you don't, you don't forget it. So great on him. And then, um, you know, we, they have some young, this team has some young backs, um, that Alan Salinas is probably just kind of let off the chain because he has nothing to lose. And yeah, what else do you got next year? Um, Nick David's very good.
00:33:59
Speaker
Every time he plays, he's very good. So I would not be surprised if they lose anybody next year, I would say he's got slot right in. No problem. I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the bench this midweek or this weekend. So I think he's turned to playing time at the very least.
00:34:19
Speaker
So good on him. Yeah. So Worcester do come back. They take care of business. They kind of write the ship and I mean, yeah, sorry. Wasps that one. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it was a little while. Yeah. It was Worcester for a while. And then they remembered out where Worcester we were not legally allowed to win this game. So yeah, I'm not sure they knew that, but yeah, was did write the ship. Yeah. They had some good, they had some good substitutes that helped them on obviously. And, uh,
00:34:46
Speaker
They were able to take it home and they, they are sitting pretty in third. So if they can, if Blackett keeps them going high direction. Right. They passed sale for third now. So, you know, that was, that was a big loss for sale in more than one ways. Many, many, many. All right. Let's go over to King's home. Cause this was fun. This was so much fun. I had to give it a little look here and there.
00:35:11
Speaker
I was technically working at the time, so I only had it on mute in the background. I was so frustrated because I was waiting for this match and it's Friday afternoon and I don't want to be at work anymore. Yeah, no kidding, right? And it was worth the price of admission. On the rewatch, it had very much rewatchability. Oh yeah, totally.
00:35:33
Speaker
totally um i mean we gotta talk about semi-red rogers uh in the premiership yeah he he he came in with a bang banged off the rustic i mean the serisons were a tough team for him first
00:35:44
Speaker
You know, but yeah, they didn't feature him anywhere near against our sins. They didn't even try to feature him the way they did in this match. Yeah, they found a way to get him the ball and he made them, you know, he probably went to them and was like, look, just if you have the opportunity, give me the ball and run off of me. That's all you have to do. Run off of me.
00:36:05
Speaker
Well, yeah. I mean, they got the message. Yeah. Um, Max Malins goes over, uh, Saracen's Loney. Um, good for him. He's, he's, he's proven he's still fairly, fairly quality last time I checked. And then, uh, Henry Purdy, uh, was, uh, able to, um, benefit from the two tries and then,
00:36:22
Speaker
Obviously, Rod Rod, Rod Rod, Rod got his after slipping through a tackle and being able to reach over the line. Um, this was, I mean, this was a, this was, this was an excellent. And he even helped Thacker get over. He was, he was the mall support. He was on Thacker's ass when he finally pushed over. So, you know, he had, he, I would consider that another try assist. That's just me.
00:36:42
Speaker
Yeah. So, I mean, this is a scary looking Bristol team. I mean, we'll get into him closer in a second, but this is a very frightening Bristol team. And I mean, you look at the lineup they just put out, it's still a fucking good lineup.
00:36:57
Speaker
And it's like- No, Charles Piatal. Think about that. Right. He's in the midweek team this week here. Right. As good as they were, they still could have had a Piatal, another Piatal out there tearing shit up. So- Yes, yeah, he's going to have a seat this week here, the midweek here. Yeah, I mean, it is terrifying. They have- There's still more to go. This is not their fully functional battle station. No, no.
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah, while we're on shit lids, Tiffany, what the fuck is that dude? Oh my god, that's bad. That is bad. That's one of those, you can get away with that if you have like 20 caps and everybody's like, okay, that's almost like a Marlar kind of thing.
00:37:45
Speaker
But if you're just kind of a scrub player, even on a prem squad, that's not a- What is going on with that? We got to talk. What is going on with that? This is not making a good showing. No, it's not. It was not a good showing at all. Yeah, I mean, and one more player I want to highlight. And, you know, he's not talked about enough, but he's so good, Chris Phooey.
00:38:10
Speaker
You know, he line outs and tackles the man doesn't do anything else He'll run support lines and carry when he needs to be carried but and he can run with ball in hand You can Adam when given yeah when given but he's got enough runners on the team that he doesn't he doesn't need to be the guy so, you know between guys like Earl and Nathan Hughes and you know and Sinclair and Harry Thacker, he doesn't need to be the guy. No, so yeah, I mean Christopher we just
00:38:38
Speaker
unsung hero right now, but with the amount of lines he takes and the amount of tackles he makes, he doesn't miss very many on top of that. So loads of credit to him, loads of credit to Pat Lamb for getting this team right and getting two big wins right off the bat on the restart here.
00:38:55
Speaker
keeping his team, you know, alive for maybe a semifinal at Eshin Gate. Yeah. And they've pushed away, you know, they sail losing two in a row. That hurt them so bad. Hurts them. And so...
00:39:09
Speaker
you know, Bristol being able to overtake them and push it and get, I'm sorry, push some distance too. You know, having played Saracens one week, like, yeah, you're not, you're not expecting it, but you'd really, if you're sale, you got to be one of, you know, the quins in Exeter. Like you can't, you can't lose both those games. No, absolutely. It was, it was definitely a bad news for them. So Bristol are, you know, sales,
00:39:33
Speaker
bedshitting is, is Bristol's gain here. That much more distance between them and in fifth place. Yeah. Let's, um, let's go over to the guys that, um, we're on the run upside the scoreboard, but still very good.
00:39:44
Speaker
um definitely put put up a fight pretty much the whole way um chris harris is really good he's not talked about enough he's not talked about enough i was trying to describe this game to jess after you know the after kind of half washing it on friday and i was like you know this is if anything it's a battle of literally world class 13s
00:40:07
Speaker
Yeah, he's very good on one of the best north northern hemisphere sides and you have One of the best backs in the world playing 13 on the other side. So Yeah, it was as much as it was a semi-grid radra show and he's getting all the glory fucking Chris Harris had a hell of a day
00:40:23
Speaker
Um, he was excellent. Yeah, he kind of got screwed over a little early They didn't they didn't use him right early, but then they kind of gave him the rod roger achievement in it. So it was like Especially those last 10 minutes that the last 10 minutes that gloster played if they played that whole match that way Could you imagine how awesome this game would have been? As opposed to I mean you started really watchable It was already intensely watchable with those last 10 minutes gloster just opened it the fuck up and all they did was the same thing that that uh
00:40:51
Speaker
The Bears were doing they threw the ball to their to their outside center The 13 running a hard overs line and having players run off of them and and you know They ran off of Harris and he was you know getting you know breaking the line Making those offloads, you know, didn't you have a try himself like you did? You know
00:41:11
Speaker
Yeah, five defenders beaten, two clean breaks. You know, 45 mirrors doesn't say a whole lot, but the fact that he was able to give away a try assist. Because he was looking to offload it. Like he was looking to be just the guy who broke the line, like the little tip of the scalpel and let someone else get through behind it. And nobody was really doing that in the first half anyway. It got better, especially late. So if you're a young,
00:41:40
Speaker
13. This is a match you should rewatch again and again because you'll learn a lot. Two of those guys for sure. Two more guys I want to point on for Gloucester and then we'll move on. Excuse me. This kid, Varney.
00:41:55
Speaker
I mean, he's got two and two and that line was that line that he scored off Chris Harris. Yeah. I mean, that's a good scrum half line. We know there are guys in the premiership that, you know, we, we hail for running that line. You know, the, the cares, the Ryan acts, who's not, obviously not there anymore. You know, the Spencer's so on and so forth. This kid's got, and he's got speed for days. He's got speed all out the wazoo. So, um,
00:42:23
Speaker
I hope he starts this midweek game. I really do. I'm very, very interested in watching him. And you could tell the, the, the way the guys reacted to him too was something cause he would make, he made a couple of mistakes, you know, bad service, but to, to, to two knock-ons at least I think. And they just came over to him like, yeah, dude, you'll get there. It's, it's a little bit, you know, after the game's moving so fast for him, but they were, they're encouraging him. So it's not like they're, you know, you see if it was a,
00:42:53
Speaker
a more veteran scrum half, they might, you know, show them up a little bit, but they're, they're over in, you know, in, in this corner. So good, good teammate out there. Yeah, absolutely. And he's, um, if he gets a service up, I would, I'd be looking over my shoulder if I was Joe Simpson and Willie Hines for sure. Yeah. Um, yeah. Bellicott and, and Braley are both gone, but this kid's, this kid's taking advantage of it right now. That was hard to him. Um, and we talked about it real quick. Um, politically, just not getting enough carries, you know,
00:43:22
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, that guy needs, that guy needs more care. So we'll see what happens with that. Um, you know, Ben Morgan's not available right now. We'll see what happens. Um, in the midweek, maybe he'll be come available. Who knows? Um, but yeah, so lost your 24 Bristol 33 and things have definitely flipped in the first two weeks in the premiership. Um, with, you know, results like this and sale and exit or, and so on. So we shall see how we go on from here. It's going to be interesting. Um, let's go to Saturday. Allianz.
00:43:53
Speaker
I wanna hear the excuses, Harlequins fans. I wanna hear the excuses that you're gonna make, cuz I know you're gonna make them.
Saracens vs. Harlequins Analysis
00:44:00
Speaker
Shut up. This was basically the team that they're gonna play in the championship. Shut up. Yeah, this is like your team, Harlequins. This is it. I'm trying to think of who else. Okay, well, actually, you know what? I shouldn't say that, because you know who really should have started in this match? Paul Asike. A little bit. God, I mean, you get to double him, what, 20 minutes?
00:44:21
Speaker
Right, it sets up another. And like in the last one, yeah, because Steele scored off him. Yeah. Yeah. The last match was begging for Paula CK. They could have crushed sale if he was in that lineup for at least 25 minutes and they left him on the bench. Guzy, what are you doing? What are you doing? Get Lang out of there. Great. You have a second distributor. He's doing nothing else. I can pull your head out of your ass, man. Like this is a good team and you're screwing them by picking the wrong player.
00:44:51
Speaker
Yeah, and let's not act as though the team across from them was like the saris at full power.
00:44:59
Speaker
No, I mean, Sam, for God's sake. Oh, you had a great day, but I would highly recommend buying him in TRM right now. Was he 110? You said 110 110. He has 110, at least last I checked. And maybe not for the midweek game, because I can't imagine he's going to play right after that effort. I'm guessing Mako will handle that. But I think he's going to be your weekend loose head now. He looked so fucking good.
00:45:28
Speaker
Yeah, I love it. That was that run and then no man first, you know to pound the fullback excellent work and then you know, your job is done and you offload to the guy who scores a try or no, that was a great offload. Take it away from him. That was a great offload. Right?
00:45:43
Speaker
Um, so Yeah, that was that that's a high quality prop right there. All right. I'm willing to To you know, I was worried about him obviously because it was age another young guy, but um, because at that point you look for mistakes like um, not to to pick on him, but uh about toy in bow
00:46:05
Speaker
He had a couple of inexperienced mistakes not like you know the when he knocked on the kick He was in pretty good position, but the ball kind of knuckled on him You know an expense experience, you know, we get a year or two as a as a prim 15 You'll be much in better position to do it than you know, your first or second match. Absolutely. Yeah So but but cream didn't really show any of that rookie stuff except, you know, maybe in the scrums but
00:46:31
Speaker
Yeah. Sometimes I mean, you get a couple of Wiley veterans across from you. They're going to know all the little cheats. Right. But I'll take the, you know, the way the Saracens pack worked anyway. Yeah. He can, he can give away a couple of those and that'll be all right. They'll learn them back. Yeah. Um,
00:46:49
Speaker
Yeah, L.A. Davies played very well. Obviously, he got himself on the line. Didn't even notice that he was like different. He was just as good as any scrum half at the played processions. So that's a load of credit to him. You know, for the Quinns, you can't spot a team, a lead of this magnitude and take 20 minutes to wake up. I'm sorry. Like, you know, and they're gonna, those that don't know the rules, they're gonna bitch about the Lewington tribe.
00:47:18
Speaker
It doesn't matter really, it doesn't because you cannot spot a team that's one, your derby rival and two, the quality of the Saracens, you know, and take yourself out of the game almost the whole time with the exception of the goal line thing that Dom Brant knocked on.
00:47:35
Speaker
for 60 minutes of an 80-minute game. That's just not a way to win, you know? I'm sure Gustard's gonna rip into them this week. Like, that was fucking awful. It really wasn't good. Yes, they made it interesting because they woke up and Paula C. gave fucking turn into a monster. But, you know, it's... Yeah.
00:47:55
Speaker
Jared and I are seasoned athleticists, I'd say. We kind of understand that you don't bug a pitcher during a no-hitter, things like that, little unwritten rules. But with about 15 to go, I texted Jared. I'm like,
00:48:12
Speaker
the Queens need three converted tries just to tie it. And he's like, yeah, I'm like, okay. I mean, I never felt at that point, I was like, you know, we didn't say it, but like this game is over because it doesn't matter, you know, even if the Queens do somehow score three tries, which they didn't at that point, I don't think, they still give up, you know, a stupid one because that's what you're doing when you're pressing that hard. Something stupid like that's going to happen where you charge down a kick, everyone's on side and then
00:48:42
Speaker
You kind of space out on what's going on. Yeah, it's up your butt. I mean, they were, they were begging for Maro's pass to be forward. Right. And it was nowhere near forward. It wasn't even close. No, no, no. And I commend Ridley. Um, he had a couple of bad decisions either way, but, and he wasn't super consistent, but he's still better than I would take him over. Carly had taken him over fully. There's a couple of referees that I would take him over.
00:49:08
Speaker
And he's still fairly young, so I'll give him credit and let it slide.
00:49:14
Speaker
when he does something and then he turns around to make the call, you're like, Oh, okay, fine. Like he's, he's like, I mean, he has such a youthful look. It's disarming. Yeah. All right. Yeah. He made that. Okay, whatever. You don't get them next time kid. What else are you going to say? Really hard to say otherwise. Um,
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah, let's hit on two more guys for the guys in black and we'll move on. Rhodes and Notoj, just otherworldly in this match. When the hell did Michael Rhodes become Fijian? Like he is carrying that ball and offloading Lickies from Fiji, good lord.
00:49:55
Speaker
And he was winding it, he then as a windup artist, you know, as he always is. I think when you do stuff like that, it just makes it that much worse. Because he was just like kind of showboating out there and then telling them all about it. Yeah, he kind of was. I mean, I mean, Matt Simmons is a dick, but when he when he passed on Louisa's head, it's like, oh, now you're just trying to start shitroting. Good job, you ass.
00:50:19
Speaker
I was like, I know where this came from. As soon as Rose was in the middle of it, I was like, Simmons is a dick, but I bet you Rose is at the heart of this. Sure enough. So yeah, and then Maro Toge is just, he's a little worldly. Who? I mean, yeah, that guy. I mean, you know, and I saw, and last note, I promise, I did listen to
00:50:44
Speaker
Billy V on the good, the bad, the rugby. And he expressed how much he, the squad is genuinely pissed when they lose even now. Even with nothing on the line. They're still genuinely pissed when they lose. So to me, that speaks volumes of this club and it makes me just more proud to be a supporter of this team. And those that can't see, I'm wearing one of my Saracen shirts.
00:51:14
Speaker
You know, it just makes me love this club more. It really does. You know, the fact that there's nothing on the line and these boys are still freaking trying to put boots up people's asses. It's just, it's not as though they're like fighting and getting scrappy about it. They're like, and losing or whatever. No, they're, they're just taking it out on, on the opposition. Like we're going to put, we're going to take it on the scoreboard.
00:51:35
Speaker
Um, and then obviously tell them about it later on. Yeah. Yeah, so like yeah, and and They have that uh, everybody steps up mentality, you know, I mean maitland's not usually an 11 Um played well because that has a hell of a game as an 11 So they can they can do that and you know, they they
00:51:59
Speaker
He's not usually not that much of an attacker, but he had to be put in that position. He'll be at the job done. That's kind of the way they are. Dom Morris did reasonably well, but had his own hiccups. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he's going to have the hiccups, but he's got a, he had a decent guy standing next to him for the Muslim match with Brad Barrett. So yeah. And they were able to overcome that. You know, they had Sesino at 13 and Farrell at 12 with Manu. And you know, so.
00:52:27
Speaker
Yeah, so Saris is take the derby match 38 24 and Quinn's get to go home between the tail with the legs and wonder what if what if we didn't take 60 minutes don't wake the fuck up. Yeah, never know. All right. Let's briefly go to the stoop. This was not pretty. Irish three, Northampton 27.
00:52:51
Speaker
Listen, I was recapping the highlights earlier. The highlights of the first half were literally 40 seconds, literally 40 seconds. So let's just shovel the first half into the ditch and let it be there cuz it was terrible. It was not good. Yeah, I think we came in right after the Saris match.
Northampton Performance Highlights
00:53:11
Speaker
It was 20 minutes in, it was only three nothing. And I'm like, well, I'm not bothering to go back and rewatch that half. No, I didn't either. I didn't either. Hassel Collins had a near try. He missed the inside pass. That was, he had a couple of those moments where it was, yeah, yeah. Just missed. So there's two highlights I wanna, or three people I wanna highlight in this match. One is,
00:53:39
Speaker
Nick Asiqui, who ended up being made a match and was everywhere. And when he hit, he hit, he made people feel it. He did not miss. 15 tackles, good Lord. And he didn't miss. So that's the other. And his line outs, he was great. He could run that line out and he's been there for what, a month?
00:54:03
Speaker
And that just, and he stole a couple of theirs. And just, yeah, the guy is amazing. And I've spoken glowingly of what I think of Nika Sikwe.
00:54:14
Speaker
he didn't do a disservice to me by any means whatsoever in that in that glowingness. So here's what's amazing because you see this in a lot of American sports. I was kind of, this was rolling around an old dude's head over the weekend. In a lot of sports, you see a guy who's like, you know, maybe going for the, you see a fuck, we see it a lot. And then here in New England,
00:54:38
Speaker
Um, how many times in the, in the early 2000s did we see somebody, some receiver lighted up with Tom Brady and then go to another team only to eat it, you know, eat ass. Like a gigantic dong. Right. Like it just, it was not working out. Um,
00:54:56
Speaker
These guys, we've talked three Saracens who have left. And I'm sure there's a couple more that we're not talking about. I mean, Singleton played fine for the weekend. Singleton played amazing. So yeah, let's not forget about him either. Let's not forget about him. So I'm sure the guys that are on loan elsewhere will be fine.
00:55:12
Speaker
Yeah, but it's like they're not, they're playing just as well as they did when they were at Saracens. They're showing the same exact level of play and contribution. It's just looking like it's that much more because they're playing at that high, they're playing at a very high level. They're not making mistakes. They're doing the small things right and it's showing up for their team.
00:55:36
Speaker
Mm hmm. Yep. So that's, I mean, loads of courage as a kid. I love him. Yeah. Um, Alex Mitchell's making a lot of people kind of forget who was almost not quite, but close. Not me. I liked having Cobas run on my fantasy team. Well, I did too, but you know,
00:55:52
Speaker
Biggers can't be choosers. But yeah, he looks very good. He looks all right. Yeah, he looks pretty good. He'll do. Collins, Tom Collins on that try. It's exactly what I've been waiting for because he's been fucking he gets he can be so lost into a match and then the way he gets into it is is usually something stupid. So yeah, maybe just try and get him the ball a little bit more.
00:56:15
Speaker
And Lotham will eventually give it a try someday, freaking idiot. It was, final note on this one, was Tempest maybe a little too patient with Irish? Just with all the penalties that he was blowing up. I think- I don't know. I felt like, for one of us, and we heard it was great to have Flatman on the comms for this one cuz he's a front rower.
00:56:42
Speaker
you know, it, you heard him just like, say like, where the fuck was this? Like two tries ago, like two boundaries ago. What the fuck? Yeah. And the one that looks like a little of them is going to be able to fall over. He fucking blows up. I'm like, that was the point of that. Um, I appreciated the, um, the, the awareness to point out Kepu and that he might've stopped. He probably stopped to try. So he,
00:57:04
Speaker
spend him an award, the Paladin Tribe, which would have been Mikey Heywood's new dad. Oh, yeah, I do. Yeah, I was kind of pissed that Heywood didn't get over. But yeah, so yes, he was way too lean on them. Yeah, he could have pulled that shirt. Like, I was thinking back to the Harlequins and Exeter from Round, who was it?
00:57:30
Speaker
12 or something like that. Yeah. Couple of weeks before the penalty tried to end the match. Um, yeah, I think it was Ridley. Yeah, that was Ridley. And, but that was like, that was like three or four penalty, you know, penalties all in a row, maybe a little bit more than that. Like, Oh, there was so many penalties in that sequence. Yeah. Um, but in this case, it was just, yeah, I was, I was waiting for you. Like you kind of knew it was coming. It probably should have happened earlier. Um, or just fucking a word to try. Just let it go.
00:58:01
Speaker
and let them follow over. Give them or hey with the try and something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, penalty tries are, they're annoying. Unless you have to give a penalty try, just give the person who scored the try or would have scored the try to say, yeah, no, we can help it. Yeah. We're warning that try. Fuck you. No penalty try. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:25
Speaker
So yeah, it's Irish and do themselves any favors, 327. I know they had a slightly changed lineup, but still just not justifying themselves by any means whatsoever. So yeah, they got to freaking figure out what the hell they're going to do over there at the stoop, stoop two, because obviously that's where Quinn's usually play.
Bath's Dominant Performance Recap
00:58:44
Speaker
Let's run over to welfare grow real quick. This game was over by halftime. Good God.
00:58:50
Speaker
Um, you know, a, a, a class of the front row for bath. We knew, we knew they were good. They, you know, they torched a very depowered Lester team and man, did it show like four front row tries. Yeah. Birthday boy. I got one.
00:59:10
Speaker
good on him. And one of them might have been a little, but we're not gonna point that out too hard. I mean, I really don't wanna just like one side this whole thing. But before we do, do anybody stand out for Lester?
00:59:33
Speaker
Not in the good way. Yeah, so I can tell you that Johnny McPhillips's boot did not oh my god. That stood out That was so bad. I'm loving any with the Should have been yellow carded He's a hammerhead I can't I can't believe like he's carried over the bad things that he had in the World Cup to this Yeah, it's not working out. Well, no Those are the two that stood out honestly and unfortunately, you know Ben white No, not even really no
01:00:03
Speaker
Not really. Yeah. I mean, I was watching him and it wasn't like fantastic. It wasn't great. I mean, it wasn't bad. He was put into a shitty situation, unfortunately. Yeah. He's doing all right. Yeah. I mean, and the two, really the two Lester tribes came in the last 20 minutes and Bath had taken their foot off the gas. Let's be real. You know, Preece Lim was off. Matabasi was playing 10. I will say Matabasi and Redpath both played very well.
01:00:26
Speaker
I was very impressed. I wanted to actually point that out. I really like Red Path. Yeah. I really liked what he was doing there. Lots of promise for the both of them. Yeah. I hadn't seen that. Of course, I mean, look where he was playing. Yeah, that was the wrong place. If he's going to play a decent game, it seems like Hooper wants to, he's got the backs to open it up if he wants to. This is definitely a better team to play, in my opinion.
01:00:49
Speaker
This and then it's also what they actually really need because you know Yes, so so now it's become kind of a thing. But uh for me anyway, um like McConaughey scores But he doesn't really like like they they they and he didn't really affect that much of the game like they're not and He covered quite a few meters. These are these are yeah, these are great wings that
01:01:14
Speaker
Baff half it's I'm not shitting on them as players, but damn you never know if they're gonna get the ball the whole match like they could you know be kind of he's had two two back-to-back weeks with tries now, but
01:01:27
Speaker
He goes like free, the next three matches and not even touch the ball. Like it could just, they'll just, the way that they're kind of backs don't distribute. So if they can get a red path in there to be a second distributor, um, that, that it might be exactly what they need and what really those, those wings deserve. Cause I want to, I still haven't seen rocket Aguni really opened it up yet at all.
01:01:50
Speaker
Yeah, he's not since the early part of the season has he been able to get and watch them getting loose. So it's like, yeah, that was sad. Yeah. So for all the passing that they, they, you know, priestlin's been doing their tens have been doing, um, it's just not getting wide enough, um, often enough. No.
01:02:10
Speaker
Yeah, no, no doubt. So yeah, I like Red Path there. Yeah, maybe I'll get some more shots here. 1638, let's go down to Bath. All right, let's move on to some fancy items. So FYI, those that are playing in the FRD leagues, number one, you better be vying for a spot because
Fantasy Rugby Advice and Player Picks
01:02:28
Speaker
You'll get a spot in our Champions League next season. So this week is, this week and last week, obviously as normal round, week 16 doesn't come up till round 17 and the two Monday games don't count. So pull your heads up with that one. Yeah. So yeah. When we get the start, sit here in a second, just kind of keep your eyes alive for that one.
01:02:50
Speaker
Round 18 is as normal. That's the first semi-final week because they're gonna do two semi-final weeks looks like. Round 20, so again, skip over the midweek. That'll be semi-final week two and then skip over another midweek game week and go to round 22 for the final. So just kind of keep your heads on swivel for that one. All right. Woo, start set. Who goes first?
01:03:16
Speaker
Maybe that's the main one. Who does go first? Hold on one second. I think if you do. Yeah. Wasp sale. You're up. Okay. Wasp sale to the Ricoh. So this is for TRM only. Right. This is TRM only. And I was actually, I was remarking with Jared, I was pretty impressed with the way I was able to,
01:03:36
Speaker
pick the player. I only had to change like three of the players that I'm going to mention here. Um, it, I was shocked because I just was, was right. I like being right. I was just surprised. I'm like, how am I going to pick these, these players? I'm going to say, ah, these are the guys who I think played last week, but didn't play this, you know, this past week, you know, wild guesses, but some are pretty, pretty obvious, like will Rollins, uh, Jack Willis, Tom young.
01:03:59
Speaker
Dan Robson, all of them were likely players since they didn't play. I was surprised that Umaga gets the start. I thought they were going to go Gopirth and maybe bring Umaga in off the bench, but instead start Umaga, start Bassett because hell, he looked good last time he played and you never know.
01:04:20
Speaker
And again, the back line for sale is not going to be their normal back line. So it's hard to treat them the same way you would their normal defense. But then to sit on the sit side, Jimmy Gotberth, Fekitoa, Kiberige, Minazzi are guys you don't want on your squad this week. For the other side sale, Ross Harrison,
01:04:42
Speaker
not a bad starter prop. James Phillips, he's a points eater when he plays, just doesn't play often enough. Ben Curry, Will Cliff, AJ McGinney, and sit, RJ VR, and Luke James. I would have had you sit the 13, but he's not, he's somebody who's not even in the game yet.
01:04:59
Speaker
so yeah don't blame you so don't play anyway that tells you everything you know all right um bristol and exeter um exeter are actually leaky believe it or not in their fan despite how good they are on their eighth yeah their eighth and trm um
01:05:15
Speaker
Bristol put a pretty pretty strong lineup out in front And they the only position that is a tough thing to say To start for against Exeter is the scrum half. So everything else is probably in play if not definitely play So start sheety pia tau rod rod. These are kind of no-brainers little to a definitely Hughes Sinclair. Yep, more hands played really well since the restart. So go ahead Dan Thomas
01:05:42
Speaker
is actually a fine start. They're back. They don't, they're not strong. Here's O'Connor in a pinch is okay. The other thing I would avoid is at Holmes and Harry Randall on the other side, Bristol are tough outfit to play against. They are. They're a really tough, fancy outfit to play against. You know, they're, they have a,
01:06:00
Speaker
They have a slew of positions. They're either fourth or above. There's a reason that they're third toughest. But there's still some good options for you from Exeter because they're Exeter. Jack Andal is a fine play if you have him. He's usually a really good play. Hepburn's okay. He's a top scoring prop for whatever that's worth. If you have him, play him. Sam Scanner's probably okay. Armand.
01:06:25
Speaker
He's not playing eight, but he'll still get the ball. So don't worry about it. Kirsten, yes. If you have him, if you don't have him, don't go finding him. Woodburn has played really well. Olfred already has played really well. So go ahead. Steenson, if you have him and you're in a pinch, go ahead. Phil Dolman and Dave Dennis is a noopy-dee-nope-nope on those guys. No, Dolman at 13.
01:06:47
Speaker
Yeah, no thanks. You know what though? That's probably where he belongs anyway right now at this stage of his career. Maybe. I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing for him. I don't know that that's exactly. Yeah. I think that's what it's called. Damning with faint praise or something like that. Something like that. Something like that. You know, he might make a really good flanker at this stage of his career. Oops. Oh man.
01:07:14
Speaker
Sorry. Yeah. We're on you. Okay. So on to, uh, Allianz or is it, I don't even know if it has, has the name changed yet? Hasn't changed yet. All right. Um, Sarri's against Gloucester. Gloucester looking to, uh, try to claw back into this. Um,
01:07:34
Speaker
Sari's looking to run their guys. I'm I'm assuming again, we don't so these are lineups. We don't have so so here's where we're getting fun My assumption is that Mako is gonna play So she wants to start him kapoku likely playing he's a start Venture I'm not sure and he's assigning you might be ready. I'm not sure but but if he is stardom then the other of unipolar I think Manu
01:08:01
Speaker
It's likely to play at 10, I think, daily. Hopefully he's playing in the center, Sagan on the wing, and Goody at 15. Now, if Goody is playing at 10, do not start him. But if he's playing at 15, start him. Yeah, he's more valuable there. My only sit for the Saris would be Cecino, because he looked good. Week one, week two, he didn't fit in. So I'm not sure. I didn't hold on to him for now. Yep, that's a wait and see right there.
01:08:28
Speaker
On the Gloucester end, Freddie Clark, Ben Morgan, hopefully is available, like you said. Willie Hines, hopefully, is available. You know, you'd like to think their captain would play at some point. Right. I'm guessing it's going to be the mid-weeks. And Charlie Sharples. I would sit Woodward and Atkinson because I'm not sure that they're going to get much ball. Yeah, we'll see. Atkinson is usually quality, but usually only an FRD, actually. Yeah, exactly. He's not really a TRM. Points for... Yeah.
01:08:57
Speaker
Okay, Lester and London Irish. Shocker of the day, the Exiles are super leaky. They're bottom of the league in points against for fantasy. The only position that they are not in the bottom three, props in second row.
01:09:14
Speaker
But you know what, there's a prop on the other side of this game, his name's Ellis Gens, you're playing him. If Martin happens to be a guy they throw in there, fine. George Ford, yep. Matt Scott's actually not, he's actually quality for what they, at least at center. So go ahead. Young's, Cal Green, Leibenberg, yep. The other Young's, Tom.
01:09:34
Speaker
is fine. Harry Wells especially if he plays at six and not locked that's fine. Interverse probably an okay go if you happen to have picked him up. Tafua yes. Oh a fellow I'm gonna give a green light to on this one as well. Dan Cole number one he's way too fucking much money. He's useless. He's like 400 pounds and he doesn't do a damn thing.
01:09:55
Speaker
Lamonini, Jacotata, George Worth, Hardwick, all pinem, please. On the other side, this actually might be a decent fantasy game because it's gonna frickin' probably light up. The Tigers are also fairly leaky. They are ninth on the bottom end of that. That's not great.
01:10:14
Speaker
For the Exiles, they obviously had a big change team in the midweek or the weekend. So midweek, you might expect a little bit more. Coleman, Blair Cowan if he plays, Hassell Collins and Hoskins are fine if they play to a sue and maybe. Loder Rona, hopefully Rona's shoulders healthy.
01:10:32
Speaker
Kepu might play. Yeah, it didn't look fun. Yeah, no, it didn't. Kepu, if he plays for Hoskins, it's fine. Hopefully, he doesn't pick up another yellow card. Dell is fine as well. Phipps, good. Cornish Orma too, if you have him, fine. Homer is probably gonna play at fullback if he's playing. So, yeah, that's probably a good place to pick him up. Hepteme is solid. If you have him, he's probably, this is probably like the one week you're probably feeling pretty good to play him. Gus Creevy, if he comes into the lineup, I would definitely throw him in there.
01:11:00
Speaker
If you've bothered to pick them up the other side of it, I would go ahead and pine George not been me and and He who shall not be named as always. Hmm What's the verse the quiz now this one's gonna be interesting because
01:11:17
Speaker
as we were saying before the pod, who the fuck are Quinn's going to be playing? Um, because like you look through their roster and they've been playing, they played their, their, essentially their, their same side both weeks. So they haven't really shown much variability in their lineup.
01:11:33
Speaker
And now those guys are limited in terms of how much time they can get in a certain amount of time. So yeah, they're going to have to switch over their roster a lot. So this one, I'm looking at Worcester and thinking there's some points on the board for them, possibly. So I'm guessing Molds will be at hook. He's a starter. Sorry? Oronet.
01:11:56
Speaker
or net but i'm guessing it's molds um might be but just because i think a net played and played a lot this this past match um anyways gresler um hill and louis and kavecic are probably going to be your your your uh back row uh those are all obviously starts hugard um sarl at 10 who looked good when he played last uh last time and then ashley beck and ollie lawrence are are i would say are both starts i think i love ollie lawrence
01:12:22
Speaker
Ollie Lawrence, I think, especially in this mismatch, could do pretty well. And I don't have any Worcester sits in the moment because I think they're going to get enough attacking that...
01:12:34
Speaker
Or if whoever else is playing, you're not going to buy him anyway. And then on the Quinn side, I'm guessing it's going to be Joe Gray, Danny Kerr. If Esther Hoosan is actually ready. He's in the country, so he's available, I think. Right. He's available if he's actually ready. And Chris Ashton, those are the guys that you're going to want to, the only ones from Quinn that you're going to want to look at. Yeah. All right. So let's go over to Northampton and Bath.
01:13:04
Speaker
So Bathor Bathor another club that's kind of that's pretty leaky their 10th third in the center So maybe just keep that one in mind So there's guys that probably played this past weekend that might get more action in the midweek or not if they play in the midweek Just remember they're probably not gonna play next weekend. So just keep that nice build for it and either case Guys, I would play laws T amount of Harrison to seek way if he plays Ludlum if he's got the gas to go for a bank as well for banks played to ease the last last couple weeks. So yes
01:13:35
Speaker
Ribbons and Tom Wood are probably okay. Dan Bigger, yep, he's probably, if you have him, he's probably somebody that you're gonna wanna play. Alex Moon's on a bad buy, and he probably won't do too bad in this match. The big T, Nairovaro, go ahead and give him a whirl.
01:13:53
Speaker
Hey, Woods only played one matches so far, so he might be playing, so keep your eyes peeled for that. On the other side of the coin, if Grayson plays, I'm gonna go ahead and pine him. Hutch as well and Malander, no. I need to see it from Hutch again. I know he's got, we all know he's got it, but I need to see it from him again before I can start recommending him. Sorry, buddy.
01:14:14
Speaker
We love you and all. On the other side, Saints are kind of middling, they're seventh, so no big deal. So the bath players are gonna be the guys that you would expect. Mercer, if anybody from this, it looked like Hooper was trying to make some changes to make sure he could play some of these guys this week.
01:14:31
Speaker
So that's why I'm gonna give him recommendations on him. Mercer, Dunn, Priestland, McConaughey, Eules, Obano, Stu, yeah. The second rows there, actually, the Saints are quite bad against usually. So keep that in mind when I'm saying things like Eules and Stu. Obano, JJ, Jonathan Joseph, Will Stewart. Josh McNally, Underhill, yes. Spencer, yes, but anybody else not named Spencer at Scrum Hap, do not play him.
01:15:00
Speaker
Kind of tough against Scrum apps. Metabase your red path if you're stuck and volatile is way too expensive for what you get out of them, so no.
01:15:10
Speaker
Okay, actually, hey, look at that. We're back to back for me. Sail Bristol, let's go to the week 17. So just kind of keep in mind. Are we going to do a start of the week, start of the week? Oh, yeah, that's right. We got to do that, too. There we go. Then we can get on to that. Oh, start of the week. I should have done this the first time and I didn't have the faith to do it. Didn't have the colonnades. I'm doing it again. If he plays, my start of the week is Mr. Nick Siquay from the Saints.
01:15:32
Speaker
Even Ben Dinell found a way to get 24 against this bath team. And that is a nobody. So I have total faith that this guy can do it for sure.
01:15:43
Speaker
Well, my start of the week comes from that match where I said it's probably going to be a points fiesta for the one team. And it's the guy who all he does is produce. So I'm going to go with Matt Kvessick for Worcester. I'd be looking for some points out of him. I bet you he does quite well.
01:16:03
Speaker
So the week is for the for the loss from the lost sale match. You know, shocker. I'm gonna go out of that match. Sailor just one of the toughest outfits and I don't care if they're not playing the usual guys. Jacob Mumaga. Sorry, this is not the place to play him. The last four fly halves they faced have less than 23 of them are named sips, Marcus Smith and Joe Simmons. So that's that that doesn't bode well.
01:16:31
Speaker
And my set of the week is gonna be Luke Morahan actually. Oh interesting I'm just not certain that they're gonna he's gonna get put in a position to to do what I think I I Didn't write down my rationale, but I'm pretty sure I checked, you know where I think I'm playing versus versus Exeter He's playing 12, isn't he? Is he? Is he playing in midfield? Yeah, that might be enough reason to say no Not with that
01:17:00
Speaker
All right, to the next round until the weekend.
Southern Hemisphere Style vs. Sale's Defense
01:17:02
Speaker
So just keep in mind, you know, chop and change all the teams, you know, we're gonna take our best back at this, obviously. We'll give as many FRD recommendations as we can. As we mentioned before, Bristol, so sale Bristol, Bristol and sale are both tough. So it's gonna be really hard to pick out the fantasy stars from this one for sale.
01:17:23
Speaker
Duprios are probably fine. Curry's fine, except in FRD, I wouldn't play him. What was the other one I was thinking of? Akker's probably okay. He usually finds ways to get loose. I don't love Faf, but if you've bought him and if you've bothered to draft him, you probably are stuck playing him. Yeah, Rob Duprios is an FRD only guy for me, honestly. John Ross is a no. Sam James is an FRD only guy.
01:17:54
Speaker
the centers are gonna be tough to say yes to honestly, Ben Rensberg, Tui, Sam Hill, really tough. Ludes a no until I see it from him and the sale front row is a no, but you kind of have to because of the limitations that are gonna come up on us here. So, you know, if you can get away from him, get away from him, maybe you can snag some snag that other front row that's still playing.
01:18:17
Speaker
And then obviously against sale, it's really tough, but the guys that you just have to start, Earl, Thacker, Sheedy, Vooey, you know, if Pia Tal plays, I don't think you'll see Rod Rodra.
01:18:30
Speaker
I think it'll be interesting to see that Southern Hemisphere style attack versus sales defense. Maybe sale are just set up to play against the ground and pound. Yeah, maybe we'll see. If Sincor plays next weekend, I would put a big fat no on him. Yeah, who else? Their second rose, just stay away from that.
Match Predictions and Fantasy Choices
01:18:52
Speaker
Bedlow, I don't know why the hell I put him down here. That was stupid.
01:18:55
Speaker
I'll apply to a bench him. I haven't seen anything good on him since the restart and the Bristol front row again if you can get away from it get away from it because it's not scored well and this is the wrong front row to go against in this situation.
01:19:08
Speaker
and to Quinn's versus Saints. Again, projections start, Louis and Simmons, Northampton give up points to Locks, so they're good options. Dom Brandt, Londahoe, Smith, and Lacyk. I'm guessing Lacyk is going to be starting that match.
01:19:29
Speaker
All starts any format for FR the only James Chisholm and Marchant are our guys you want to look to And then sit no matter what Earl Morris and Brown for the Saints
01:19:44
Speaker
Start Heywood, I'm assuming Ezekiel, that's how he's going to be their weekend guy. Maybe midweek. Ludlam, Mitchell, Grayson, and Matt Proctor all should score fairly well. The FRD only, start the front row, Fervank and Collins, and sit Aloha, fellow.
01:20:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, Ryan. Not your weekend, dude. Not your weekend. All right. Let's go. Exeter, Worcester, whatever team Exeter put out, they're probably going to have a field day. Worcester are another team that are very leaky. They're 11th. Really, they really struggle. FRD, they're also 11th. So yikes. This could be a field day. So if you have them on Exeter, just deploy them. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be pretty much, um,
01:20:25
Speaker
The, the highlights I want to, I want to give on the FRD for now are either scrum half neither performed super well. Um, Cuthbert's Oak, I guess he'll be okay in FRD. You'll probably be in a pinch because of the lineup, the lineup issues. Um, gray and Skinner will be TRM only guys as well. Um, other than that, like the front row, what Bernstein's and Dolman Kirsten hog, especially hog. Good Lord. That's a no brainer. Um, you know, the guys that you're definitely going to play, go ahead and roll them out there. It shouldn't be that tough.
01:20:55
Speaker
We talked about Exeter's numbers before. They're sixth in FRD for whatever that's worth. So again, a little middling. The guys you're going to definitely play are the likes of WhoGuard, you know, Lewis and Ted Hill, Kvesic, you know, you just kind of have to. They're just too, they're just too good. You know, you don't like it. Either hooker, nah, pass.
01:21:19
Speaker
Ollie Lawrence is probably an okay play really Bresler is not a bad play in TRM FRD's all locks are worth a damn at least And you know, we'll see so we'll see how that goes and then we'll we're or Searle do No, no, no stay away from that one Lost or Lester This should be
01:21:48
Speaker
I hope, hopefully, you know, if everything goes right for Gloucester, they do to Leicester what, uh, Crystal just did to them. Um, just looking at their likely lineup, assuming it'll look like the one this past, uh, this past weekend. Uh, so you're looking at Singleton, Slater, Ludlow, Peledry, Joe Simpson, Cipriani, May, Thorlo, and, and, uh, Louis-Rise Sammet, uh, running against that, that Leicester team. Yeah. I'm liking all of them. Start them all. Um, FRD only start 12 trees and obviously the Gloucester front row.
01:22:17
Speaker
And I would actually even look at, if you're struggling for a prop, you'd probably do all right in this match if you grab one of the Gloucester props, whoever might be starting.
01:22:28
Speaker
or if it's a name from their reserves, might get some good playing time. On the Leicester side, Luke Wallace seemed to be a presence this past Saturday, especially on the fantasy rugby board. Yeah, it's a fantasy day, you got to say. That's right. And Ben White also might produce for you. FRD only, yeah, aforementioned Johnny McPhillips and potentially Harry Potter might get you some points, so. Yeah. We'll see how that goes. Other than that, I really wouldn't be looking to pick anybody from Leicester. Yeah.
01:22:58
Speaker
So let's make this really easy, Saracens and Irish. We know how bad the Irish are against fantasy. This is TRM only now that we're onto a Monday game, so there's no FRD available for this one. I'm gonna tell you the guys that have ownership and the guys that you probably don't wanna even come close to in terms of playing them. Other than that, they're all in play against this team. The two guys are both props, Barrington and Calk after that.
01:23:21
Speaker
just let it go. You know, Davies, Wilson Croft, Rhodes, whatever your fancy. If you happen to be in a pension, you need to pick up something like Domo or Sesino. This is the fucking day to do it. Manu in play. Wiggles, who's usually terrible in TRM, he's in play. Okay, so just keep that in mind. Other side of it, Saracens are second in TRM. Oops, a daisy. Wrong day to play. Some of these guys probably.
01:23:47
Speaker
So the big thumbs up for these guys, for the Irish on the other side, Coleman, Cowan, Hassell Collins, Hoskins, Tuosui, and Loader. Everybody else, I'm fucking trying to duck, maybe fibs if you're in a pinch, but really everybody else, I'm trying to duck, honestly. And to wrap it up, Bath for Swasps.
01:24:08
Speaker
I'll make this really easy. Beth, start their entire front row, because all they do is fucking score tries. They know fine. They know where the try line is. Honderhill, Falatow, Redpath, and McConaughey. I'm moving McConaughey into my start. He's earned two tries and 20 plus points two weeks in a row. OK, fine. You can work your way into a start now. Sit, Priestland, Rocadaguni, and Watson until they start to coach.
01:24:35
Speaker
They start looking good. For the Wasps, basically, again, the lineup that we just looked at or talked about, Cruz, the Ogre, Tom Willis, Velikat, Umaga, Marcus Watson. I think at this point, for this match, you want to sit there center, so Mills and LeBorjois are guys left, better left on the bench or off your team. Yeah, definitely.
01:25:00
Speaker
Oh, right. Do you have a start of the week for around 17? I do. Um, I started the week. Um, I know he's in the midweek team this week right now, but, um, I have faith. If not, I'll pivot to one of his teammates. It's fine. Um, my start of the week's going to be a guy I spoke glowing Louis to about already. His name's Tom O'Flaherty. I think he'll, I think you'll find room. I think he's going to do just fine, uh, right out there against, against Worcester. So, uh, especially at Sandy park. That's a huge thing.
01:25:29
Speaker
So this will be, I think this is a no brainer to start him, captain him if you want and play him in your FRD lineup for sure. Yeah, he won't be available for FRD, but just based on it, especially for TRM, the points he's going to be putting up are going to be worth that buy-in and that's going to be Billy V.
01:25:49
Speaker
gonna have a very large day against because he's likely gonna be playing and he didn't really he wasn't a star I would say of this past week but he put up some decent fantasy points so right I can only imagine what he's gonna do when he actually tears through people yeah I know right
01:26:09
Speaker
Oh yeah. All right. So, um, my say of the week, um, comes from the sale Bristol match. It's going to be a tough one. Um, me personally, and this is one that you've already thrown out there. And I think, um, I think it's probably accurate in this case as well. Um, Bristol are a tough outfit to play against. I know sailor equally tough, but when they get into these tussles, they don't find many fancy points. And the guy that costs a lot in TRM, especially, um, or not a lot, but it's still a fairly significant price tag. Uh, dandy Pria. Hmm.
01:26:39
Speaker
So I'm gonna go ahead and say that's gonna be a tough day for them. You've been a good point scorer for me. So you're saying I should get rid of Dan Dupriya. That's the fantasy advice I'm being given here. I would say I would bench him for that match. That's for sure. Fair enough. And then my set of the week.
01:27:00
Speaker
guy we glow and we talk of. He's close to friend of the pod status, I'd say. But I just don't think he's going to score you many fantasy points and against the saints. So I'm going to go with Mike Brown. Yeah. I like Brownie, but I'm going to be right on that. I'm going to be sitting him this week. Yeah. All right. So that starts it. Rapid fire.
01:27:26
Speaker
We got a lot of them to do. It starts, pick them. Ben took the lead after last week. So keep your shorts on, we got a lot more to go. Wasp sale. I have wasps. Yeah, same. See, I'll need to show me something first. And I don't know what team they're putting out there. Oh, I don't know what team they're putting out there. I'm not that excited about it. Yeah, same. Bristol Exeter.
01:27:56
Speaker
going side piece Bristol. I'm going Bristol too. Going hard. Yeah. Uh, Quinn's Worcester. Got it. Yeah. I got Worcester again. What, what side are Quinn's? That's what Quinn's putting out and how are they going to even stay in it with, you know, they're not going to do what the wasps did. We'll see. Uh, yeah, I'm going to go Quinn's. Okay. Yeah. Um, Sarah's Gloucester. Hey, it's be tough.
01:28:20
Speaker
I, again, what are Gloucester going to put out there? Um, so I, we know, we, we know what salaries are going to put out there likely. And that should be more than enough to be Gloucester pretty much no matter who they put out there, who will be available for this match. They did win at Kings home early this year, and it was almost a full change side against mostly their first team. So yeah.
01:28:39
Speaker
Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I'm gonna go series two. Let's try Irish. Oh boy. This is not fun. You know who's gonna win this match? Me for not watching it. Yeah, this will be a breeze through next week. I will go. I'll be brave and go Irish.
01:28:59
Speaker
I'm, I'll go with, I'll back the home team. I'm going to back last year on this one. Okay. Maybe they'll put it together for the, against the Irish. Yeah, we'll see. Uh, Northampton Bath. I'm going to go with the saints. I'm going saints. Yeah. Saints are my boy, Chris Boyd. All right. To the weekend, uh, sale Bristol. Bristol. Yeah, same. Yeah. I think they'll be riding high after that one or they'll be pissed either one. Um, Quinn's Northampton.
01:29:29
Speaker
Quinn's. Yeah. Yeah. This one, I think Northampton's going to kind of shit the bed a little bit and Quinn's are going to show us some more testicles than they've showed the past, well at least last week. I'll ride the green and black. I'll go saint.
01:29:43
Speaker
Exeter Worcester, okay, never mind. Gloucester, Leicester, geez, also, never mind. Yeah, never mind. Home team, home team. Yeah. Iris Sarris. Sarrison's got this done kind of ugly last time, but I think it'll be fine. Bath Woss, this will be interesting. I'm going to go with Bath. Yeah, all right. I think I'm going to go Woss.
01:30:06
Speaker
I think Blackett's gonna play really well. I like what I've seen on a bath for the most part, but I think they've also had some meh teams to play against, so we'll see. All right, and then Super A.U. Brumby's in Forest. Duh-huh, yeah, sorry, Forest. What do you guys know, but no. And then Rebels and Taws. Taws didn't look that good, and I like the Rebels a little bit better, honestly. I agree. Yeah. All right, so we have a few different, so we'll see some separation likely this week.
01:30:36
Speaker
Yes. All right. Cool. We got it in. Thanks for sticking with us guys. I know it's, uh, yeah, this is, these are, these are tough. These are tough weeks. Um, but it's not that girthy. So it's okay. Um, okay. So we appreciate you guys hanging out with us. Um, you know, I'll put some timestamps in the,
01:30:56
Speaker
I'm definitely gonna put some time stamps so if you missed it, maybe I'll go forward and maybe go back and put a recording on the front end of this thing. But I'll put, hopefully you picked up on the time stamps and were able to weed through what you wanted to hear and what you didn't want to hear.
01:31:13
Speaker
But yeah, thanks for hanging out with us.
Closing Remarks and Upcoming Excitement
01:31:15
Speaker
It's gonna be a wild week of rugby for sure. Get your TRM upgrades, it's only gonna help you, I promise. It's only gonna help you. But until then, we will come back next week and try and keep, we'll try and highlight only the matches that we really feel need to be highlighted. We will.
01:31:32
Speaker
14 matches, six weeks. Good Lord. We didn't even have this much from the World Cup. Good Lord. No. All right. Well, hey, COVID is COVID. We got to just adjust and go with what we got. All right. It's going to be fun anyway, watching it. I'm so excited for midweek rugby.
01:31:48
Speaker
Yeah, so we'll probably do this on Tuesday next week so we can get the numbers crunched. Right. But until then, thanks a lot for hanging out with us. Download, rate, review, email us, fancyrobypodcast at gmail.com, tweet at Ben and I. If you have questions, I'll put the Twitter handle in the notes. Other than that, we'll catch you guys next week. Thanks a lot.