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The Last Airbender
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In honor of our favorite holiday, in this episode, we make fools out of ourselves by watching and attempting to fix The Last Airbender. Did we really watch this 1.5hr film, or were we trapped and preserved in our couch for ONE HUNDRED YEARS?!
We do not, nor do we claim to, own the rights to this film in any way, shape, or form.
TW Mentions of: Genocide, parental abuse, death, whitewashing
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts
00:00:00
Speaker
Okay, watch the original show. God damn it, guys, we fixed it. Right then, there. Nailed it. Nailed it. First time. Literally. Episode's over. Catch us next time for Dragon Ball Evolution. Bye. Welcome to Reshoot, an amateur's guide to gooder film, where your hosts, the Avatar, Hector. UA. Yeah, UA, I guess. Ruthie.
00:00:32
Speaker
Eduardo. Happy Ed, Ed. It's Ramadan. I know. That's that's what they would call me if I was in that movie. Eduardo. Eduardo.
Podcast Purpose and "The Last Airbender" Focus
00:00:50
Speaker
They like the sound of. They do. Eduardo. Eduardo. Oh, this podcast and we're definitely doing this today. We take movies we like.
00:01:02
Speaker
not this dislike very much this somewhere between oh it wishes and not that we're biased and certainly not no the wrong tomatoes agrees with us we're fine uh we take ones we like this like storm between and we just fix them you know you ever be like hey if i could approve this movie i i think it would be better if they'd just done this that's this kind of movie uh and today we really go hard on this
00:01:30
Speaker
It's the infamous The Last Airbender movie. They couldn't call it Avatar because Avatar is space Pocahontas. It got copyrighted way before the show came out. Yep. Well, really? That's the reason why it's called Avatar Last Airbender. If I remember my Avatar facts correctly. Wait, what? Yeah. Say one more time, why is it called Avatar The Last Airbender?
00:01:53
Speaker
Because James, you're gonna call Avatar and then James Cameron had already... Oh, copyrighted the Avatar. Mm-hmm. Said that after our last airbender and that's right after our Legend of Korra. So yeah, there's a lot of fun facts. I'll try not to bring down the episode with them. So also one more thing for the audience, full spoilers in the movie, maybe even the TV show. Oh, I'm definitely spoiling the TV show. Yeah.
00:02:22
Speaker
So you have been warned heavy spoilers for the TV show Avatar the Last Airbender. And none of this Netflix nonsense. Yes. We're talking about the animated one. You have been warned. Watch the original if you haven't. It's so worth it. It holds up. All right. So who wants to go first? You're the episode says ad. Yes.
00:02:52
Speaker
Honestly, I'm gonna go first and just get this party started. Alright. I watched this show since episode one, alright? Just for context. I have re-watched this show on a bunch of reruns all together around three to four times each episode. Like, I used to- I got the comics back when they had that. I haven't read the Kyoshi or Yangshan books. I should. I knew a lot of
Personal Connections and Fandom
00:03:20
Speaker
the fucking lore. Like, I'm a big fan of this one.
00:03:23
Speaker
Like, you know, it's like, hey, you're a big fan all the time. Yeah. But like this one was like my big one. I convinced my parents to watch it when it was on Netflix or the pandemic. That was our big show. So like big fans of it. So I'll be nice and I'll start with my likes. They tried to add humor. I'll give them points for that. From what little I've seen of the live action, they don't even add much humor. So the show. So like they tried to add some of the humor. It didn't stick at all. Did not.
00:03:53
Speaker
Backhand compliment, I know. Well, it's because they got the serious guy from Twilight to play Sokka. I know you're saying their names to differentiate them from the show. Ugh, it hurts. Also, I feel bad for the deaf
Casting Controversies and Performance Critiques
00:04:10
Speaker
Patel and the kid who played Aang. I think it sounds like Noel Ringer. The kid tried. Like, I looked him up to see what other movies he did. The only other movie he did was, uh, Cowboys Resilience.
00:04:25
Speaker
And like he was a big fan. You know, he he did martial arts. They call him Avatar. That's what got him on the show. Like he was he dressed up in a Halloween costume he wore the year before to audition for Aang. Like genuinely, I hope he's having a good life and he doesn't blame himself for this because it is not his fucking fault. Nope. Yeah, hopefully it's not as bad as I think his name is Jason Long, the guy who played Anakin as a kid.
00:04:54
Speaker
Yeah, that was a whole different thing. It wasn't the rehab or something. It was not because of that. His mom came out recently and was like, no, he, it's a family thing. He was mostly sheltered from it growing up all the bullying. He had no idea. There was even a picture of him recently with an Ahsoka action figure. So he and he loves the show. So like, sweet. Yeah, no, he's he's fine. Like,
00:05:18
Speaker
Honestly, Annie was one of my favorite parts of Phantom Menace. I really liked him as a kid. Like, the kid who played him. No, I did. I did too. My favorite part of that was Darth Maul. That's the whole show. That's valid. Also, like, Dev Patel. Can't Wait to See Monkey Man. That movie looks fucking amazing and I'm hearing nothing but good things from the South by Southwest screenings. Return to Monkey. Yeah. I don't know. It was gonna be cool. All right. Dislikes.
00:05:48
Speaker
Do you guys know about the behind the
Critique of Live-Action Adaptations
00:05:50
Speaker
scenes that ruined this movie before it began? Is it the Katara casting so that they had to whitewash half the waterbenders? Yes, that's part of it, but yes. Do I get points?
00:06:04
Speaker
Yes. Yay! So basically Katara's actress is a daughter of a very rich man. So instead of having, and he was like gonna fund the movie, so he's like, I'll fund it, but you gotta get my daughter on board. That's whoever she wants to be, and she wants to be Katara. Like I try not to shit on child actors, she's number on my age. But like, she was really not right for that role. I'm sure she's done other stuff, and I've heard she's good, I don't know.
00:06:34
Speaker
The only other thing I ever recognized her on was the trailer, like what I heard about was like the really bad Transformers 4 movie. Wait, is she the daughter in the Transformers movie? She's Mark Wahlberg's daughter, yeah. Gross. Yeah. So yeah, you know, just I've heard she's good in other shit. I'm sure she is. She was not the right pick for Katara. And like Ruthie said, yeah.
00:06:58
Speaker
Also, it's funny, do you know also white background actors for the Southern Water Tribe look to be like native, but everyone in the North was just white? M. Night, when he was doing an interview for the, about the movie, he was like, yeah, I used to love it with my daughter. Then people came around and I was kind of hiding about it. Like, I guess over there, kind of hide and act like, yeah, it's just a thing she likes, whatever. Sign number one, this movie's gonna fucking fail.
00:07:23
Speaker
I actually saw this movie in theaters with my best friend and my mom as a kid. I'm surprised she's still your best friend after that. We both wanted to see it because we were both Avatar fans. And I remember all three of us came out and we were all just dumbfounded staring at each other. And I was the one who was trying to be like, maybe, maybe. And they were like, no, no.
00:07:46
Speaker
This movie was the first time my cousin and I got along. We used to hate each other as kids. And then we both really were fans. We were looking up the reviews because of his dad's apartment. And, uh... Oh, and we were just like... We were there when the reviews came in and it was bad. And we were like, wait, what? How did they mess it? And he read the leaks as we were talking. And we were just shitting on the movie. I never went to see it. But yeah, nothing that cool. Uh...
00:08:15
Speaker
Bending makes no fucking sense and the effects are like bad. Like it's like Nickelodeon movies. I can tell. I can tell. I can completely fucking tell. No, this was bad. Like they're doing all these movements to get a little span of water. Why is it so slow? Why is it so fucking slow?
00:08:34
Speaker
Oh, the actors can't move that fast. Like maybe don't have live action. Then, you know, it's I'm going to say this, Ed, you're going to hate me on this. Ninety nine percent of the time, live action adaptations are bullshit. There is no reason. What about the live action Lord of the Rings adaptation? To the book?
00:08:55
Speaker
to the animated show. There was an animated before the movies before the live action movies. There was I wasn't thinking of the show. I was thinking of the movie that came out in like the 70s 80s. It was in the same kind of an old older animation style. Yeah, like the last unicorn was in. I think I don't know why I said show but it's animated movie. Yeah. Yeah. I know the Hobbit movie. I really liked the animated movie. I'm getting into tension. I'm sorry.
00:09:22
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Most of the time, it's pretty bad, Hector. I don't know why you said I would hate it because I do agree with that. The only thing that's changed is that the one piece was kind of okay. That one's fine, though, because it's a thousand episodes in like eight. Let me. Yeah, I think it's like almost what, not nine thousand, a thousand, like 30 something right now chapters.
00:09:50
Speaker
yeah there's no yeah that's like that's fine i think the difference between like one piece the animated or the live action show and avatar the
Adaptation Challenges and Comparisons
00:10:00
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the live action show is
00:10:04
Speaker
how they dealt with it in the writing room, because in one piece, from what I can tell, I've only gotten to, I think I stopped at the alabasta arc, but what they changed were updates to the story that happened later on, like Luffy's grandpa being the admiral.
00:10:23
Speaker
yeah spoilers and spoilers for uh one piece also also the biggest the coolest thing that i saw was uh shanks using uh hockey on the seeking conquerors hockey
00:10:42
Speaker
which wasn't a thing that Oda had invented up at that point. Yeah, it's just stuff to tie all the world building together, whereas Avatar, a lot of the changes that they made were like, they felt like half-assed attempts to try and get the audience to believe in the adaptation, but not like for the fans, for new people coming in, for those M. Night Shyamalan's who come into it like, oh, it's for my kid, it's for my kid, don't worry.
00:11:12
Speaker
yeah it also like you know the redo the rebooting fucking one piece you know that right yeah they're updating the animation for all the older episodes no that's not it they're restarting over again faster paced with a different anime studio so there's gonna be two one-piece animes running at the same time yeah yeah but it is it is also to update the animation for the earlier episodes yeah as well it's gonna be great the whole thing it's gonna be wait what else is wit done
00:11:42
Speaker
Attack on Titan's first three seasons. Okay. Yeah, I'm good. Oh, it's doing yes spy family. They do that one, too They know they've done a lot of good shit. They don't they don't miss anyway I don't know. I am an enemy of almost all anime to live action animated the live-action Reboots or read adaptations. Whoops Fuck fuck them almost all of them
00:12:11
Speaker
Especially Cowboy Bebop. Jesus fucking Christ. He has a personal vendetta. I have a personal vendetta against that one. How far did you get into it? Like, two and a half episodes. Dude, I didn't even finish the first one. I was like, I'll be nice. I'll be nice. I'll give it to you. I liked, okay, I
Storytelling and Adaptation Fixes
00:12:30
Speaker
like Mustafa Shakira's jet. I hope I said his name right. Like, him as jet was perfect. I was like, I'll keep going. And then... You...
00:12:41
Speaker
Man so yeah bending makes no sense effects are bad like all those movements It takes eight guys to make a pebble to make a rock like like a like a garden sized rock And it moves like 10 feet per like hour It's so slow apparently the earth bending in the show is Just as slow or even worse. No, it's actually I've watched the first steps. It's actually pretty good. I
00:13:06
Speaker
What? I heard it was really fucking slow. The earth bending. Maybe it is. The first episode looked good, but there was barely any earth bending. So maybe did we see any earth bending? Yeah, the intro, the intro bit. Yeah. If they fuck up the intro bit, though, they didn't fuck up the intro bit. No, I'm saying if they fuck up the intro bit that way. No, it wasn't that bad. No, there was the there was the spy. Right. There was an earth. Yeah. And that's all I'm saying.
00:13:34
Speaker
Hold up wait, but in the show in the show live-action show do they do the earth water? Yeah, it's bad. They fucked it up fucked it up. The the monologue is all off and There's other stuff. We don't want to get into the movie. They didn't do the monologue at all They didn't know the monologue is throughout the entire fucking movie, dude She doesn't stop. That's all she does
00:13:59
Speaker
I know, but like, you know, the iconic monologue though, do they have it in the show or no? So it's not, in the first episode, they don't do the exact monologue, but then grand, grand.
00:14:14
Speaker
In the show, as things are happening, Gran Gran exposits to Sokka and Katara about the Avatar, and she says the monologue not- Word for word. No, it was word for word. It was word for word.
00:14:29
Speaker
And I'm like, why? Long ago, all four nations, but did she do the Earth? Fine. Yes, yes. Oh, nice. All of it. And I'm like, wait, not Katara? Okay. The whole show is just weird. I don't like it. Well, Little Life's in it, I don't like it. Which sucks. I like Danny Putty, you know? He's in the show, but I can't go that far. Um...
00:14:53
Speaker
Why weren't the characters allowed to be friends? Like, they didn't have any conversation about anything that wasn't plot related. Yeah, I made a gag in my dislikes that it seemed like they only had like five sentences to each other throughout the entire hour and a half. Yeah. Like, I get it. Oh, it's a movie. Other movies can do it.
00:15:16
Speaker
other action movies can do it like there's no excuse like they try to fit too much into one seat the whole season one thing no just honestly like the first season of avatar is probably the easiest to fit into one movie because it's episodical you can skip a bunch of shit yes
00:15:39
Speaker
But it's also it's still bad possible to do in a sense without in an hour and a half. Yeah, because the first the first season was how many episodes like twenty twenty twenty episodes. So twenty hours into an hour. Twenty four for counting the two the few two partners. Yeah.
00:15:59
Speaker
Yeah, but the thing is, like, I'm not saying it's easy, but it's easier. It would have to be a two and a half hour long movie to probably make it feel better. Yeah, but then the kids get tired. Fuck the kids. Yeah, I know. Fuck them kids. Michael Jordan. I don't know if he actually said that, but it's a trivia joke. He probably did. He probably did.
00:16:22
Speaker
I mean, yeah, there is a lot of fluff in the show. Obviously, you can't get rid of the most important episode, The Great Divide, but like...
00:16:30
Speaker
The Great Divide? The one where there's two sides of people who hate each other and they have to reverse this canyon. Because for some reason, Appa couldn't go over the canyon. Yeah, it's the only filler episode where you can skip. Everything else actually comes back later, but that's the one. The one thing I didn't like was, wait, no. Oh, no, that's right. There's
00:16:56
Speaker
Remind me on the show. Yes, I'm here for you, Ed. When Aang goes to the northern air temple. We just saw the episode today. Yes. Is there a monk there? No, it is the mechanist. Mechanist. The mechanist, thank you. And his son Teo, who is paralyzed from the waist down and they use gliders. And it's their their former village is with them. Yes.
00:17:22
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah, because because I in the movie when he went to the Northern War in the movie when I went to the Northern air temple, he was captured by some dude, right? Which is funny because they actually did that in the comic where they end up they're like,
00:17:42
Speaker
they tackled the plot hole of like, wait, airbenders are nomads. How did they get them all in one night? They didn't. What they did was they started spreading rumors that there were other airbenders in different places. And then they just trap them and kill them. Like right then there. It was it's brutal. Yeah. Okay, because because Aang doesn't I have to think about it to not say it wrong.
00:18:08
Speaker
I don't know what's happening. No, because he's heard it so much. It's just, yeah, therapy. So Aang doesn't meet up with Boomi until season two, right? No, no, he meets up with Boomi in season one and Boomi is just playing a bunch of pranks on him and being like, yeah, I think carefully it's you're the avatar and there's a war. He's a friend. Yeah. Yeah, I know he's a friend and he's not in the live action. Uh,
00:18:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah, no, it's to try to do more like in realistic. I know we said we're going over live action spoilers. We're fucking going a little bit like from what I heard, though, it's like, oh, yeah, he's he's angry and angry for leaving everyone. And I'm like.
00:18:48
Speaker
That's not how Booby is. He needs one, he needs one soulless from his old life. Like that's, it's a nice character thing. It doesn't damage anything. Yeah. And Booby's like, what, like 110? 110. Yeah, he's 110. Yeah. Characters live super long in Avatar if they, for the most part. Well, I mean, Booby was a, he's a king.
00:19:08
Speaker
Well, a lot of people live very long, except for fucking Aang, apparently. No, no, there's a reason for that, because he has so much- He gets fucking murked. No, he spent so much time in the iceberg with the apples. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Except for Aang, though.
00:19:28
Speaker
We're Sokka though. We never got Sokka in Kora. We never got Sokka in Kora, yeah. No, no, Mendaeyeon. That's why we only got Toph and Katara. Toph? We got Zuko. Okay, that Toph thing? Definitely like my thing. I do have called her Toph before. Tophu. Just my, that's just my stupid brain though. But no, Zuko's alive in Kora. Yeah.
00:19:58
Speaker
Oh, that's right. Zuko's still alive in Korra. It's literally just Sokka. Oh yes, spoilers for Legend of Korra!
00:20:07
Speaker
Okay, so anyway to finish that yeah, it was good season three I know but I'm just saying there's not gonna be a better villain than I'm on Season three is like the closest. I don't know like I'm on is the best villain In the entirety of your mind in the entirety of avatar. No, I already know I already know No, I'm on is better Azul is just like
00:20:34
Speaker
crazy bitch no she's not she's a very abused child who was yeah I know but I'm on had more complexity and a good good a good agree to disagree what is it like wrong good ends honestly in my opinion wrong means
00:20:53
Speaker
yeah that's the whole show is good the whole show of kora is good and wrong means though that's literally that's literally like even lampshaded on in the you'll get there you'll get there let me let me finish before i forget yes
00:21:09
Speaker
The exposition is slightly worse than what Lilacian's live action, which is oof. Um, why does the Fire Nation hate spirits? Where does that come from? And it's such a bullshit explanation. Yeah, because they're industrialists because that's not in the act. It doesn't make any it's adding more spiritualism to a thing that doesn't eat it. And it shows full of spiritualism. I don't know. Yeah. Also, like we I mentioned earlier, the fucking pronunciation.
00:21:38
Speaker
I know his explanation was like, oh, I'm age like I think it was so I might be wrong. Holy shit I might I'm gonna be very careful here. I didn't reread watch the interview and won't get angry My coolest one he was like, oh, yeah I used I changed the president's honest to make it like more age like more like how it might be pronounced in like certain Asian countries which like I respect Don't do this after like three seasons of a very successful show like I don't know Wasn't a fan of it
00:22:09
Speaker
All right, my fixes. How is... Aang... I don't... whatever. That was his explanation, I don't know. And if they made a second movie, it would have been Toph, like I was saying it probably. Yeah, no, it would have been Toph. Yeah. Good thing we never got it. Or Toph. Nice. Oh, that's what they call it in the play. Ember Island players, yes. All right, so the fixes.
00:22:38
Speaker
I think the first bit is fine, and I'm saying fine with the biggest air quotes I can make with my fingers without breaking them. But after the air temple, they run into Jett, who was just abandoned by the freedom fighters. They didn't help him rescue the airbenders, earthbenders on the metal ship. They had the set for the metal ship. Just use the fucking set! Oh, it's the same thing! Just, just... Do you think the Amber's gonna do that shit? Just, just wha- ugh. Frustrates me.
00:23:07
Speaker
Then there's a budding romance between him and Katara as they make their way to the North Pole. We've seen them goof around, they also do a rebellion against the Fire Nation, and over time, Jet gets more and more dangerous, right? And it's more and more risky. Jet's a part of the gang? Jet's a part of the gang. Damn.
00:23:31
Speaker
So we spend time seeing them start a rebellion. There's no way you can get everything right. You might as well try and get something different. This is the most fanfic I might be doing for a episode, but... Mine's worse. Oh, okay, perfect.
00:23:48
Speaker
Sock and Jed are butting heads as they keep arguing over what to do. Katarnang are kind of happy for now because it's like, okay, the Fire Nation has better inventions, but we keep doing like smart ways of beating them. It's clever. Aang loves clever. So the heroes hear about Zhao having some kind of meeting at the Air Temple. And then he's like, oh no, they didn't know the temple. And he just kind of, you know, impulsive 12-year-old flies up with Appa.
00:24:17
Speaker
And then Sokka finds plans that Jet has about rigging that there's an explosive gas around the air temple, kind of like what happens in the actual show, and he made a little bomb. All he has to do is ignite it just the right spot. It'll kill everyone there. Katarn Sokka kick him out.
00:24:42
Speaker
and they try to climb to look for Aang, because that's the best they can do, right? They're gonna take a long hike and trek up the mountain just to get to Aang. So Aang's caught, Jet runs into the Blue Spirit, Jet, uh, Blue Spirit, knowing who Jet is, it's like, alright fine, just join, like quietly join me. So he got two peop- two guys with two hooks, two swords, helping Aang against an entire army, because it was a little unbelievable in the sh- in the movie, because they couldn't do Aang flying around as much.
00:25:12
Speaker
Now it's a little more believable, they're fighting an entire army. Jet's about to drop the bomb into the vent, Zuko... pulls it up, yes? Would Dante Bosco in your mind play Jet? The man was like 30 at this rate, it'd be weird. I was gonna say, oh that reminds me, if we are keeping the Spirit Dragon thing, just make it be Dante Bosco who voiced Zuko. Give the fans a little something, you know?
00:25:46
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no, thank you remind me about that little bit I wanted to change So they you know Jets about to drop the bomb Zuko's like wait a minute. I can smell the gas and Then he just knocks it out, but not before it explodes right on jet and sends him off the mountain We don't see the body he's gonna live
00:26:08
Speaker
Right? So now when if we get to book two, when Jet and Zuko are embossing Sei together. Oh, drama. And that's a little more drama because he can't reveal how, you know. Zuko has to play it cool around Jet. And Jet doesn't fully realize it's him until a little later. So, yeah.
00:26:29
Speaker
by this point and goes back to check on the blue spirit zuko oh no it ends with the flingos like we could have been friends and then zuko does the fire i love that scene that one like the 12 year old me that scene just stood out for a long time that sadness and angst faces zuko was like rejecting his offer of friendship what scene after in the show after
00:26:56
Speaker
Zuko After Aang reveals save Zuko for saving him, you know in the blue. Oh, yeah in that thing Zuko Aang tells about he had a friend named Kuzan back in season back before the hundred-year war Who was a really cool friend of his from the Fire Nation? And he's like maybe we could be like that and then Zuko just without saying a word just oh, yeah Yeah, shoot the fireball. I remember that. No. Yeah, he's just like he's just like wakes up and says that and Zuko's like
00:27:23
Speaker
Ah, yeah, just a straight attack. And then it ends with like all of them leaving the three of them leaving on the air on Oppa. And he got that little like to do side little Kalimba music. And the movie ends. We're not doing we're fucking not doing. The whole of book one.
00:27:51
Speaker
if we're losing characters, you know? Like, fuck it. I like it. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I did not think about the jet angle. I think that's a very creative way to take it. I used to read a lot of Avatar fanfiction, so I'm hoping I didn't take this. What major characters did we lose? Just jet and boomy, right? Say that again.
00:28:14
Speaker
What major characters did we lose in the movie and the Kyoshi warriors jet Suki they're met in the first season. Yeah, they met in the first season. Yeah, Kyoshi Island. Heck she was supposed to be a one-off character, but because of her popularity, they brought her back. Interesting. I didn't know that. Jet, Boomi. A tail. Tail and the mechanism. Is that a major character?
00:28:39
Speaker
They end up setting up they help plan for the Day of Black Sun where they come back in season three. Yes. Who else? The fortune teller sets up the romance a little bit. If you're thinking of the spirits, Hebi comes back. Hebi doesn't come back.
00:28:59
Speaker
Again, I think I think you're misunderstanding Major characters. Yes, that's what I'm saying. No, I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't count the machinists people Major care they made the submarine that they used to get on through the Fire Nation capital and they actually enter in that episode That's when they introduced flying the firebunder colors to sneak under their radar and
00:29:22
Speaker
Yes, and that's also how they made the hot air balloons that ended up being a big factor in winning. No, they are the most like again, the only unnecessary episode of Avatar is literally just the great divide. No, I feel like there's a lot of the a lot of season one that is not important. Not if you don't want to sacrifice character stuff to
00:29:47
Speaker
I know, but you have to in movie form, for me. I know that, but I'm saying, I know. Well, you don't have to. You can, it's just, if you're... When it's something like, when it's something this, like, big, when you're adapting something like this, you're gonna have to. Yeah. Without making, like, eight movies. I know, I set up for six movies at the very least, because each season, each season's two movies, but eh.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah, you could trim down some stuff. Yeah, you can turn down some stuff. Hey, I think I think one is the is the easiest one to trim down shit. Honestly, if I were to do it, I would do book one, book two, half of book three, the second half of all book three cut that in half. And also you give it you give it the like Twilight and Harry Potter treatment, where everything's one movie except for the last one. It's two it's part one, part two.
00:30:36
Speaker
like I was saying you can cut book three and a half yeah I know yeah that's the way yeah part one part two it's the easier way to get a whole show done and you can show fit you let characters grow because if you don't care about the characters why you're what I want to watch this movie when I can just watch the the image show again again again again like I used to as a kid right now that I have the DVD set we are going to do again we have a Last Airbender and Korra
00:31:03
Speaker
I'm getting to get sidetracked. I pulled myself back. Nevermind. Good job. All right. Ruthie, you seem excited. You want to go next? Sure. Okay. All right. Pulling up my notes. All right. What I liked about this movie. Hector kind of touched on it. I think Aang and Zuko's actors did the best out of the entire cast. I feel like
00:31:30
Speaker
since Katara was, I'm not trying to shit on her, like, she's a person. I'm not- I don't think I did, right? No, I think you did it very well, but what I- I know I'm gonna rag on her a little bit, and I'm trying to preface this with, she is a human person. She also bought her way into a role. Well, her daddy bought her way into a role.
00:31:54
Speaker
Yeah. Don't forget David Beckham. Who's David Beckham? I think he was hired. A father-in-law. David Beckham. What?
00:32:05
Speaker
I looked it up. Beckham's her father-in-law. That was way after that. I looked her up too. That was way after the movie, though. No, I'm specifically talking for this movie. I think after she got cast, that's when Jasper from Twilight got cast because he some but they had to find somebody that looks like she got married like two years ago.
00:32:25
Speaker
Okay. Well, but they had to hire hire somebody that looks kind of like her. And because of that, I think that screwed with the rest of the casting. Because they had to make the water tribe make sense, because they have the indigenous people and then the not indigenous people.
00:32:43
Speaker
But yeah, I think Aang and Aang's actor and Zuko's actor, they really felt like they gave up their all. The actor for Aang, I don't feel like he fully got a chance to fully play Aang. He's not nearly as lighthearted as Aang should be, but it was such a breakneck pace. They're out with what they had. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Yeah. Again, yeah.
00:33:09
Speaker
I thought there were some really interesting ideas that didn't get super fleshed out so another backhanded like but like
00:33:19
Speaker
I thought it was interesting that the firebenders were unable to make fire themselves for the most part, like only the most trained firebenders could do it. I didn't catch that on my first viewing. And it was really interesting because Zuko is in the show, he's portrayed as not being a very good firebender. But in the movie, he's got a lot more talent because here he is creating his own fire. I mean, he's been studying under Iroh for three years at this point. Zuko never creates his own fire.
00:33:49
Speaker
He does. He starts to. He thaws the ice. He thaws the ice. He thaws the ice to get into the Northern Water Tribe. And how can he get out in the- When he got ice by Katara. Yeah. Can I give you my crack theory on that? What?
00:34:07
Speaker
if the show was trying to do set up a bunch of shit right i think third season we were going to get the dragon the dancing dragons and i think iro who had already went through it in the show was that's how he was able to make his own fire yes dragons right no i i 100% agree with you because he was he's the dragon of the west yes um it's more of a demonstration god i love iro uh
00:34:34
Speaker
I know Hector hates it, but I thought there was a really interesting character arc with Aang talking about the ceremony. The ceremony itself was kind of lame. I didn't bow back. I didn't bow back. Yeah, it was such like a, I bow at them. They bow at me. I bow back. I don't know. It just seemed kind of basic. You know what it reminded me of? What? Dune. It's bad if they bow to him, right? They're worshiping him. I guess.
00:35:06
Speaker
There's a messianic figure that's the entire point of the, again, just saying. I don't think that was the part that was freaking Aang out. Aang didn't... No, it's mostly a joke. Aang's not a messianic figure, though, Ed. Well, they made him to that in the movie for sure. He's a Buddhistic figure.
00:35:29
Speaker
He's the Messiah. He's the Avatar. He's supposed to beat the Fire Nation and bring balance back. He's a social worker.
00:35:43
Speaker
Hector and I were making jokes when we were watching this movie because there was the one, the dragon spirit kept saying like, Aang, you aren't, what was it like? You aren't meant to hurt people. Aang, you're not meant to hurt people. And then Aang just like tsunamis the firebenders. It's like, oh, he has a kill count for sure. He doesn't kill them. Yeah, I mean, realistically, there's no way. Ruthie and I were talking about that when we're watching the show afterwards, because it's like the only who'd have a kill count in the actual show, not Aang.
00:36:12
Speaker
No, Aang does have a kill count. The big monster bee in the sand. In the Western Fire Temple, he airbends some firebenders off the temple. They are going to fall to the depths. That wasn't him, that was Roku. That was Roku taking charge during the spirit, during the solstice.
00:36:33
Speaker
Oh, that was him in the Avatar State? Yes, that was him in the Avatar State with Roku in charge. That does not count. He indirectly kills Admiral Zhao. He indirectly kills General Zhao. No, that was the spirit. That was the spirit. By that point, Aang had already jumped out of the spirit. Yeah, that was the spirit thing. That's why he said indirectly. If you cause someone to die,
00:37:03
Speaker
Indirectly like you put them in the path of them getting killed. Is that is that a kill count for you? Ed I'm gonna remind you of a rule in Star Wars and this is the only thing I'm gonna say cuz I don't want to spoil it for you Star Wars? Yeah a star a rule in Star Wars. Where's the body? Nobody but no Moira. No body. No crime. Yeah finish Cora finish Cora
00:37:35
Speaker
You said Star Wars. I'm talking about a famous rule associated with Star Wars. They're not dead if you don't have a body.
00:37:43
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. So now real quick side tangent, Hector, have you seen the Bad Batch the first season of the no, no, I lost my Disney Plus account. Me too. It was my parents and now they're doing the crackdown. I'm like, I don't want to risk. Well, there's a there's a there's a character in that that falls to their supposed death.
00:38:09
Speaker
Yeah, no, we all hold the rule. Yeah. Nobody so. All right. Last one. Interesting concepts.
00:38:20
Speaker
I'm going to assume that this is not an ass pull on my part, but it is most likely an ass pull on my part, but it's interesting that different benders seem to have different level, like capacities, disparities in their bending technique. Like obviously the avatar is going to be able to do a lot more shit, right? But like, I don't know, it just seems like
00:38:44
Speaker
There was a really cool world building concept there of like how much dedication in your life you really had to put into bending.
00:38:53
Speaker
They didn't have the opportunity with Katara to have her go through the whole arc of learning how to waterbend. But they had this opportunity where she was like barely struggling to keep this little thing of water together. And then there's these five grown ass earthbenders who can barely get a pebble together because their culture has been taken away from them. You know?
00:39:17
Speaker
I am sure you hate exactly what he was trying to do. I wish it wasn't an asshole though, because I know I'm just reaching up there a little bit. No, no, no. I think you got exactly what M. Night was trying to do. But I'm feeling like I got it, yeah. No, but he didn't. He didn't do it successfully. Yeah.
00:39:33
Speaker
All right, my last half step. The movie seems to have a half step more faith in its audience than the new Netflix show does. The news show, having only seen the first episode, it kind of felt like Markiplier trying to explain the back rooms. Okay, so the bathroom's jingle, jingle, jingle. The subway service is on the screen so you can... Yeah. Yeah. All right, my dislikes.
00:40:03
Speaker
Appa and Momo's CGI are nightmare fuel. Terrifying. There's so many white people in my Asian fantasy setting, and it's even more obvious with all the Indigenous people just being in the Southern Water Tribe, except for Grand Grand, Katara, and Sokka. And Katara's actress is a Nepo baby. That's an easy fix. Just hire Indigenous people.
00:40:27
Speaker
The show did it the show did it but they exist there's there's multiple of them who would have thought some of them even act Yeah, there's like cuz I'm pretty sure waterbenders are supposed to be like inuit people. Yes. Yeah, there's Earth kingdoms more China Japan is in just a Fire Nation of Japan and Tibetan Tibet or Tibetan monks are
00:40:52
Speaker
You know, I actually like how the firebenders were Indians, though. I thought it was very interesting. Yeah, I thought it was a good twist. I wasn't too mad about that. Yeah. Also, we also hired Def Patel to be Zuko. Yeah, I know. Def Patel. Yeah, that movie scared him for doing a big, big Hollywood shit. Honestly, probably for the best. It was probably for the best. He got a good career out of the more dramatic and now directing. Can't we just again can't wait to see it.
00:41:22
Speaker
The hype is unreal. The hype is unreal in the Carlo household. The dialogue is either too much or too little. Most of it's just expositioning since they cut out so much of the show. It's mostly just Katara talking at the audience. That's the movie. That's it.
00:41:43
Speaker
You didn't miss anything. They cut out so much of season one, it just feels rushed. It's a breakneck pace. I think the main trio get five sentences of dialogue spoken between them and any one of the other main characters. Five sentences. And one of them is like, hi, my name's...
00:42:00
Speaker
They ask Aang's name at the Southern goddamn Air Temple. It gets worse. And what made me furious is because when Katara is doing the voiceover on the way to the Air Temple, she says Aang's name. And they say, what's your name? Like within a second. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure they even said like, we have to go save Aang like in the sequence right before. Oh, you might be right. Yeah.
00:42:32
Speaker
I knew a kid who liked the movie and I do have some weird friends. He's not a friend. He was he was a kid I used to work with at a group home. You know, some weird people after.
00:42:48
Speaker
I mean, you're one of my self included. Yes. Hector already said it. He put it into words. Very good word. The bending is debatable. Yeah. The bending is really out of sync with the movement of the actual benders in the show. I know I get it. Animation. You have a lot more precision control over what's happening when, but it felt like
00:43:13
Speaker
each movement each twitch of the finger had something to do with what they were doing yes so there's a guy so can i go on with my big rant about this because i love this real quick real quick before you go on your rant yes it bugged me how delayed everything was in relation to the movements go ahead hector so there's a guy named sifu kisu he was the guy so he was teaching people in hollywood
00:43:39
Speaker
like he was just doing his backyard like kind of doing some martial arts in his home and one of the two creators found him through there they hired him as the guy to do all the help with the choreography right so a lot of the earth bending like air bending is based off of a more circular like a tai chi right not tai chi it is a specific martial art that involves doing circles notice how Aang always circles around everyone and strafes around right
00:44:03
Speaker
I saw that Avatar Extras bit. Yes. So that's one of it, right? So each of the earthbending is mainly one thing. Firebending is mainly one thing. Waterbending is one thing, right? The only exceptions were Toph, which was a different martial art. There's a lot of martial arts in the world, you guys.
00:44:23
Speaker
And also what he would do is he would have the animators, they go to a mat on like the Nickelodeon gym and he'd flip, he'd like flip at least the main creators and then sometimes them if they want to be flipped to kind of get a handle of how to animate and feel the movement so you know how to animate it. That's cool. Yes. Just to say this, there's a lot of love putting the original to the show, the animated shows. Not saying the live action. I know the live action guys are doing their best. They're actually doing their best. I hope the second season is better.
00:44:53
Speaker
But like, just saying that there's so much fucking detail on the anime show. Sorry. You're good. My last is like, they put a weird emphasis on the spirit realm in this. And while I would have counted that as an interesting concept, it just made me upset because the explanation as to why the Fire Nation is upset about the spirit realm was just weak sauce. It's because love.
00:45:22
Speaker
changing hearts. Wars are won in the heart. That's it. Okay, bye, please leave. So here's how I'm gonna fix it. Loyal, lovely audience members will know that my policy is with adapted materials. I'm only going to consider the book. That's my shtick.
00:45:47
Speaker
I have dropped my shtick. I'm going to play with the whole sandbox. I'm going to do my own little nerd thing. Spoilers, again, for the show. I have proof and evidence of the bullshit I want to do. It might be in Korra. So, Ed, challenge me at your own risk. So, hypothetically,
00:46:12
Speaker
What if Aang hadn't been trapped in an iceberg for a hundred years? Oh, okay. You're going there. Okay. What if it was three? So it'd be him against Sozin? Pretty much. Okay. Okay. We don't get Zuko, so it's just automatically worse. Wait! Shut your mouth!
00:46:40
Speaker
That's right. We're doing an alternate universe here, baby. So in this version, there is a Susan's Comet, but it's got a very odd orbital pattern. Comets are bullshit like this. They'll do these things. Mine might be a little bit more fantasy, but you're going to have to live with it. This is my fix. You can fix it your own special way. So the way that it works is
00:47:00
Speaker
if the earth is here it does a long path and then it gets hooked into the earth's gravity but it's got a really weird axis so what it'll do is it'll swing around once and then it'll do one mini orbit that'll last three years and then it shoots off and it fucks off to spirit's no where knows where right yeah okay and we'll say that's a period of like three to four years
00:47:30
Speaker
So we can have time for plot and multiple movies. Movies gonna start off the same. Katara and Sokka are out fishing and they find Aang. This is gonna be a mishmash. You're just along for the ride now. They have more understanding about what an air nomad is. Like I said, this is like,
00:47:52
Speaker
three years after the main take down of the Air Nomads. The genocide? Yes, thank you, I forgot the word. The genocide of the Nomads. I don't know how much they would have seen of Air Nomads, but they know about their existence, they understand the culture, they understand airbending. It does get you a little bit of the plot out of the way when they don't have to say, oh my God, what's an airbender?
00:48:22
Speaker
They're shocked to see an airbender in the flesh. Sokka assumes that Aang is a Fire Nation spy because canonically, as my lovely husband has told me, they did have people pose as air nomads to rat out the rest. The actual airbenders.
00:48:38
Speaker
We get the same kind of anger confusion. Katara is trying to ask him how he survived. How he survived the initial purge, if he's been alone, if he's seen another person from the water tribe. But she's trying to be very gentle about it, very sensitive to all the trauma that he's probably experienced. It's endearing, kind of nosy.
00:49:07
Speaker
I should also mention at this point, Aang has never formally been inducted as the Avatar as he was too young for it. He was 12, he's still 12. The Avatar, canonically in the show, you have to be 16. You have to be this tall to ride the Avatar train. Not really, but you know, you get the point. He would have only recently found out about the secret and ran away. Oh, but the world at this point,
00:49:37
Speaker
Uh, if we're saying like three to four years of being in an iceberg, Roku would have been dead for like 15, 16 years at this point. We don't know how- It would be 16 because Aang was born, I think, within a week of Roku's death. Okay. Because I- the avatar actually looks like it takes up to like a week. I mean, yeah, you gotta like swim around and shit.
00:50:02
Speaker
Find out which body I don't know how it works. Swim around, explore the spirit world, join the soul soup. Gotta get some soul soup. I keep forgetting Ed hasn't seen Cora. Okay. Is soul soup a thing? No, the second season of Cora goes over the first avatar. Juan?
00:50:27
Speaker
Yes. Did you get past to that part or no? No, but I know about one. I literally stopped at the after the like I stopped watching season two, episode one. Damn. You just got to get that first. The first half of season two sucks. The second house. Amazing. Yeah, because because I watched the second I watched the first episode and then I ended it and I'm like, why am I watching this? Amman's not Amman's gone. And I stopped.
00:50:54
Speaker
season three anyway let's let's let i don't think any i don't personally i don't think any villain is gonna live up to amon but sure i'm gonna try zuko and co show up except zuko knows exactly what he's looking for um and keeps looking at zuko and he's just like
00:51:16
Speaker
God, you seem familiar. And Zuko kidnaps him same as before. Aang's taken by Zuko and Iroh, but he recognizes the name Iroh. He's very surprised. That's his friend's Kuzan's uncle. And Iroh is the crown prince of the Fire Nation, so what is he doing all the way here? And I'm gonna jump forward, because I'm really excited. This has been the one thing that I've been hyped about all afternoon.
00:51:43
Speaker
In the Blue Spirit scene, Aang finally recognizes why Zuko is so familiar. It's Kuzan. He is the son of the second prince. I hate everything. What? What? Wait, so Kuzan's Zuko? Yes. Okay. Zuko was a fake identity that Kuzan created for himself so that he could hunt the Avatar without bringing further shame to his family. Okay.
00:52:12
Speaker
Not a fan, but I'll continue. I don't know, I thought it would be fun. And it would put a little bit more weight to the like, my friend Kuzan scene. Yeah, no, it would. Does he say the talk about Kuzan and then Oh, he already by the time Zuko wakes up, Aang knows and he's like, instead of me and my friend Kuzan, we were friends, you and I could be friends. Aang's just all he has to say is we could be Aang and Kuzan again.
00:52:42
Speaker
Yeah, okay, I'm digging this. Who's on an Aang again? Yeah, yeah, no, I'm vibing. Maybe Iroh's there and Aang delivers Zuko to him and Iroh can exposit about what happened. Luten, Iroh's son, he died early in a skirmish in your Ba Sing Se. What Iroh probably wouldn't say but the audience might see is that Luten
00:53:07
Speaker
turned his back on the genocide of the Air Nomads at the last moment and he died doing the right thing and it changed Iroh's heart. And Iroh began speaking out against the war in honor of his son and was banished. And when Khuzan was banished, Iroh took him in.
00:53:29
Speaker
And I don't know, there's some kind of like conflict. We don't have to say it aloud. I trust my lovely audience, but Kuzan, when he takes his rightful place, he does want to pardon his uncle. He is for sure 100% like gung-ho for the war, but there's still like a little bit of conflict in there.
00:53:47
Speaker
Yeah. But that's later on. Let's get back to like- That's season two shit when Zuko starts to feel the conflict. Oh no, in this one he's already like a little, like he's got the affection for his uncle. Okay, fair enough. Side note, you can keep the dumb test the same, I guess, but maybe like- I hated that test. It was so dumb. Because then when every rock starts to stand up when it hangs near it, or every bit of water just forms the perfect circle, it doesn't make any goddamn sense.
00:54:17
Speaker
I don't know you can you can tweak it somehow but the idea is that like, since these different vendors have different disparities in their abilities. It's when the avatar is like a little bit nervous all the elements are reacting to the emotions that are swirling in this pubescent boys body. Okay, I don't know that makes sense.
00:54:44
Speaker
The emotions is what like they purposely like, it would make sense that the test purposely made him nervous. Like if they did that on purpose, make him nervous and then do the test because the things would not react would react differently. Because because he's nervous. Okay. Katara and Sokka rescuing, I don't know make the oppa thing a little less asshole. They go to the Southern air temple.
00:55:10
Speaker
Oh, you're going back to- Yes, sorry. We're taking it back to being in the, to season one, episode two. Now episode three, they go to the Southern Arab Temple, slow it down a little bit, but clean it up. After Aang has his freak out, the gang decides to make a pact to find the last remaining airbenders to unify the world against the Fire Nation.
00:55:35
Speaker
They can still fight the Fire Nation and free all the Earth Kingdom cities in the meantime, but their real purpose is looking for the airbenders. And this kind of works for Sokka and Katara because they're looking for their parents. Kanna and- Both their parents or just their dad? Both their parents. This is an alternate universe. I can do whatever the fuck I want over here. Okay, okay.
00:55:53
Speaker
Kanna went out initially once the purge started. She wanted to help find any surviving airbenders. Hakoda had followed after about a year ago, according to Timeline, a year before Aang was found because he wanted to find Kanna. They stopped hearing word from her and any of the other waterbenders.
00:56:16
Speaker
sometime between that two, three year span. They can have similar adventures to the show, like the montage of the greatest episode, The Great Divide, or whatever. Jet is fun. Keep the water scroll stuff, clean it up. I still want Zuko to team up the pirate with the pirates. However, not too long after that, that's when Zhao comes in and he blows up the ship.
00:56:47
Speaker
They can pick up Toph at Omashu. She's the only daughter of Bumi, king of Omashu. Her mother is a... Also, Bumi and Aang are friends. Bumi's the king of... He's the king of Omashu. So you aged him up a little bit. I'm aged him up. I made Toph. I'm trying to get to it. Her mother babies her, but her father has a wild streak and turns a... Bad pun here. Blind eye to her earthbending tournaments. So...
00:57:15
Speaker
When the Air Nomads were still a thing, the king of Amashu used to host them, and the only payment that they would insist upon, and they would insist upon it by any means necessary, of course, Bumi, were the wild and ridiculous stories of the shenanigans that the Air Nomads would get up to. So Ang Nuthaf.
00:57:40
Speaker
um i would make the climax of the movie the northern air temple uh the gang hasn't found a single airbender but if the climax of the movie ang decides that these people are still worth protecting oh same story as a normal northern air temple where it's much people who moved in after yeah everything okay
00:57:56
Speaker
At some point in the fight against the Fire Nation, Aang's gonna get shot down. Maybe he deflects a blast from Teo and he takes another hit that he didn't see coming. So the Firebenders get both the Avatar and the Balloon. That's when the Blue Spirit scene happens and Aang going back to the gang is the end of the movie. Oh, we have the same ending. Okay. Nice. Damn. It's a good place to end. It's a good place to end. Honestly.
00:58:26
Speaker
I don't really have a lot like it's so fucking hard to like fit it and like honestly it was better like and I don't remember much from the show because I watched it only once on like YouTube I'm assuming
00:58:43
Speaker
I saw I'm not I didn't see as much of the show as Hector I didn't see every episode like three or four times there's some episodes I saw like five plus times and there's some that I've only seen like twice aka the great divide because it's the most it's the only like standalone episode so you can watch it whenever
00:59:02
Speaker
I just, most of season one is standalone though. It's episode one. It comes back, dude. I keep telling you. It comes back. It's episodical. I'm talking about season one specifically. I'm saying every, it's not. Every episode comes, it's somewhat episodic. Yes. Every episode just comes back. You're misunderstanding my point. Yes, those, those, those characters come back, but the show is episodical at that point. It's episode by episode, not continuous like season two and three.
00:59:30
Speaker
The format of the show is different. I make the argument season two has some episodical episodes to the swamp. The tales of bossing say? Tales of bossing say. Yeah, but it's more continuous. Season one is completely episodical. What's not? The entire thing. I wouldn't, I wouldn't know. Except for like, like a couple one part, part one, part two episodes. I don't know, like.
00:59:56
Speaker
it is hard to adapt into live action and all that. And yeah, it would be easier to like, end it before the North thing. But I feel if we're looking into a trilogy thing, it would be easier to just make the whole of season one, one movie. The only like, so the things I would change really, I still keep the 100 years thing. But
01:00:28
Speaker
Some things would have to be sped up or completely skipped that were in the movie here. And this movie would still have to be like two and a half hours long. What would you take out? Well, you could trim some bits because it's implied that the mechanist and Jett's enemy was the mechanist that we see later in this season. I would cut every
01:00:58
Speaker
What's his name? Zuko's dad? C. All of those. Ozai? Ozai? All the Ozai scenes? I'm gonna cut all of that. You can talk about Ozai, you can show a frame of him, but it's not needed. Do it like the animated show. Don't sew Ozai until season three. Yeah, you don't see Ozai until season three.
01:01:19
Speaker
Yeah, we hear his voice. Yeah, it's Mark Hamill, of course he hears it. But we don't get to see, oh, Zuko, you don't get to see how close, how much Zuko looks like Ozai until that episode. Yeah, until later. Yeah, so I would cut all of the Ozai stuff. That's like 15 minutes back, literally. I would still have Azula at the end. I like Azula. Yeah, no, that's a good one. But Ozai would be there, but he'd be covered in shadow, you know.
01:01:47
Speaker
be like, all right, it's your turn Azula. The throne room still covered in fire. It's a good aesthetic. Yeah, so I would do that at the end. And I still wouldn't show Ozai's face. I would also cast someone who looks more mean. Honestly. Because of Harlow to Ozai, he looks like a nice guy. Just his face. Yeah, I would get though. And where's the long hair, bruh?
01:02:18
Speaker
Where's the long hair? I mean, Zuko didn't have his ponytail. Yeah, that was a mistake. Yeah. And his scar was on the wrong side. No, your scar's on the wrong side. Nice Zuko costume, but your scar's on the wrong side. It's not on the wrong side!
01:02:41
Speaker
So, for Zuko, I'd have him have the ponytail, not the shaved everything else, just like, you know, long hair and a ponytail, honestly. So season three? What? Season three for part of it, whenever he's in the throne room? What? Season three, Zuko, he has the long hair hair, but he keeps it in a ponytail whenever he's in a more formal situation.
01:03:05
Speaker
Season 3 Zuko? Yes, before he leaves. He still has like the above shoulder length hair. Yeah, but he's in the Fire Nation. But when he's in his father's presence, he has the fire hair insignia. You mean the flashbacks? No, modern day. He has his hair up with the little fire hair insignia hair clip. I don't remember that at all, but okay. Again, I've watched the show too many times.
01:03:33
Speaker
I almost had a chance to meet the creator of one of the creators of Avatar. I regret I never took it.
01:03:38
Speaker
So yeah, uh, casting choices aside, I think we agree that everything should be like, it should have been any people for, uh, Inuit. Okay. I heard something else. Casting issues aside because we all agree on what should like, you know, representations good. I would still keep the a hundred years and, and getting over there. Uh, I didn't like how Katara just like,
01:04:09
Speaker
Immediately, no questions asked, went up to the thing, hit it with Sokka's boomerang thing. It was kind of wild. That happened in the show. I know, but the thing is that Katara, I'm pretty sure, says, oh, there's someone in there. Yeah. Yeah, she didn't say this in this one. Oh, you're right. Shit, you're right. Yeah, no. Like, you just kind of see Aang in there, and she's just like, yeet.
01:04:35
Speaker
Well, not to mention like in the show it the way that they broke the iceberg or the way that they introduced the iceberg was through her waterbending to just show how much potential she has and she's just being stymied because you know genocide genocide bad genocide bad Yeah, but I would also keep the you know, the the little waterbending bubble thing at the very beginning is iconic Because she's yes
01:05:06
Speaker
I'd keep that the same. Yeah, the abduction thing, the same the test. I don't know. Like in this show, Zuko doesn't know that he's the avatar right away. Or do they? Because he's an because he's the airbending tattoo. He's an airbender. Yeah. OK. He was just assuming that this was going to be an old man. Yes. And in the movie, he also says like, I'm looking for an old man with airbending hat to go with no self-preservation. I'm going to find a man. I'm going to capture an old man who's evaded
01:05:35
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the world for 100 years. God damn, Zuko was an idiot in the first season. No one's found the Avatar in 100 years. Rip everyone else, but I'm different. I'm built different. Yeah, no. I wouldn't do the test, but I'd give Zuko and Iroh just a deduction thing.
01:05:56
Speaker
This is the first person we found with Airbnb tattoos ever after the genocide. Like, it has to be him. He's not a hundred years old, but it has to be him kind of stuff. No test, because that's stupid. I don't know. It's kind of hard because I should have watched like, I should have rewatched the first season of The Last Airbender before watching this. Hmm. I mean,
01:06:24
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Hector and I have been talking about we were trying to like figure out the order of episodes and it turns out we were crazy wrong but you could do like a like a spark notes version where you do like southern air temple kyoshi island because that is really important episode you can put kyoshi in season two yeah like have the payoff so yeah what I would do is like yes the southern water tribe and and gets captured and then right into the southern air temple
01:06:50
Speaker
Wait, you could have the test be, they take Aang to the southern air temple and Sokka and Katara have to chase the firebenders there. Chase the firebenders? To the south, they're trying to follow after. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not making fun of you, it's just what I know about the world. It is impossible, it's supposed to be near impossible for almost any airbenders. Zuko, I built different fire lords, son, come on. Yeah. Wait, it's impossible for what?
01:07:20
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It's supposed to be incredibly difficult for non-airbenders to be able to get any air temple. I think the north is the most accessible, and the east. But like, the south, from what I remember looking like, there's no way... Yeah, because it's just sheer cliff face. I mean, that's a very nerf bender.
01:07:40
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And then the Eastern, especially the one near the Fire Nation, the upside down one. Yeah, that one's like up like, good luck. Fuck you. Yeah, this still act like building. Yeah, that one. That was a big fuck you. Also, my favorite air temple in the whole show. Yeah, so I would do like like a like a five act kind of movie. Each being like 20 minutes. Are you going to go for the what was that one?
01:08:09
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Suspiria, what was like, what, 17 acts or 11 acts structure? Nine acts structure, really? Okay. And some acts were like, they were not like cohesive. Of course, of course, of course. They weren't symmetrical. But yeah, sorry. It'd be each act would be 30 minutes to make it two and a half hours long. Wait. Because he says he doesn't want to do an hour and a half.
01:08:30
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Yeah, I'm making a super long one. So the first act would be like Southern water tribe, and then a little bit of, you know, traveling up. Second act would be the Southern air temple.
01:08:46
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And like, that's the basically like the climax of the thing would be a little bit like second, I would be getting to the southern temple, being there and then leaving kind of stuff. And I don't I don't remember exactly what happens at the southern temporal, but I would keep it as kind of like, I don't know, like figures out that he's that he's that he's he tests that he's the avatar or something. I don't know.
01:09:10
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What actually happens at the southern end of the show? He finds out that his people are dead and then he goes in the Avatar state and his anger and that's when the entire world that has Avatar relics knows, oh shit, the Avatar's alive. Yeah, because he goes into the room with all the statues. Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That happens. And then on the third act, yeah, I would do Kyoshi Island and I'd say he meets Bumi there also.
01:09:39
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Just to set up. Boomi's at Kyoshi Island? He could be there for diplomatic reasons. Not at Kyoshi Island, but like maybe at the parts before or after. Probably after. Okay, okay. He just meets Boomi. They have a quick little thing and Boomi leaves.
01:09:55
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And then they go to the Northern air temple. They meet the same people. The things and then back down and the Northern air temple would be maybe maybe a little bit longer than 30 minutes. Are we getting through spirit? Hmm. Are we getting blue spirit? Blue spirit. Remind me because I've already forgotten the blue mask, the blue mask. Oh, sorts. Does he do the blue spirit in the first season?
01:10:25
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Yeah. And in the second, but mainly the, but yeah. I would say in the Kyoshi Island arc, yeah, maybe Ang gets captured right after. Okay. Actually I dig that. Okay. Right after. And then that's when Zuko does the blue spirit thing. And then they go to the Northern temple right after that.
01:10:48
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then leave the northern temple and I say they get that like we'll do a time skip that they get to the northern water tribe like pretty quick so that we get a good 30 minutes of like being at the water tribe Katara learning water bending along with Aang and then the final conflict and uh I would kill Zao how he dies in the show not not in the movie okay there
01:11:15
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And yeah, and also like spending a lot more time at the Northern Air Temple, you get more Sokka, what's her face, UA? At the Air Temple? At the Northern Water Chart, my bad. Sokka and UA. UA is her name? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fun fact, the actress who played UA in the movie, she was a huge fan of the show, super disappointed. But I guess she befriended the creators because she was a lot, she was a Sami in Korra.
01:11:45
Speaker
Dang yeah Yeah, I don't know it's just really bad and The movie's bad and then like adapting this is very difficult adapting avatar is very difficult because there's a lot that goes on and like skipping anything really Henders it I'd say it's it's a lot
01:12:11
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I don't know how they, I don't know how they, how they fucked it up with a cup of bebop because that, that shit you can skip so much. You can skip so much. Yeah. No, that's the down where they were like, well, we could just do whatever. Cause it's not like it's like a continuous plot. We'll just make it a continuous. They gave, they gave face stories to, uh, to spike.
01:12:36
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What the fuck they did I heard later on they gave a few face stories to spike that's stupid and then what did they do nothing really and then and then I think I think one piece did really well because I
01:12:49
Speaker
One Piece has so much shit. Well, because the only changes that they made, like I'm convinced of that. They cut out all the filler bullshit. It's not filler, but they cut out all the bullshit that doesn't matter that happens. Yeah, they trimmed the fat, but then they also updated the stuff from later on in the show. That show's gonna get to like four or five seasons at most. There's no way they can keep it up.
01:13:18
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But i'll start second by season three i'm sure you like season three at the latest one piece. Yeah How many seasons did they green light for right now just season per season? No, I think the green light is like two or three. No, that's avatar laster bender the live action. It's got the final two seasons green lit
01:13:36
Speaker
Oh my God. I mean, I'm happy for the writers and stuff to have work. Work's hard to come by lately. I totally for him. But, uh, but no, but this movie was just an absolute, uh, fumble. M night went to hiding for like a while after this. Like he honestly was the right choice because. Yeah, he, it was just a complete fumble. Honestly, I don't blame him, but like,
01:14:04
Speaker
I don't know. It just sucks when, when somebody gets the rights to a, something that has a pretty like loyal fan base and they don't care about it. Cowboy Bebop. David Lynch's Dune. Cowboy Bebop with the Overwatch 2 skin for Spike. Yeah. And there was, there's a very, there's a very like famous quote about somebody that got the rights to something. He's like, I really didn't care about this thing.
01:14:35
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I don't remember what it was, but yeah. Wasn't it David Lynch's tune? David Lynch, he at least read the book, but he's like, he didn't get it. Yeah. Can confirm he did not get it. Yeah. I'm trying to think. No, I know exactly the thing you're talking about and I can't remember. Yeah. Okay. Um.
01:14:57
Speaker
Is this a fun question? Yeah, I think it's fun. Okay, ask it. Okay. So M. Night kind of shat the bed with this. Who's a director current or in the era? Because I don't know as many directors from like 2009 ish. Who could you think do it?
01:15:17
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I've got a joke answer. None of the directors at that time were- No, that's what she's saying current. If they're going to make a movie now, then who do you think? You could do at the era, if you know directors of the era. I do not. I have a joke answer and I have a serious answer. Okay, what's yours? I have a joke answer. Okay. Who's yours? Go first. Quentin Tarantino. There'd be so much feet!
01:15:42
Speaker
Yeah, we get, we get, we'd get Katara. Oh, shit. They're kids. Careful. They're children. Careful. And Nickelodeon too.
Imagining Alternate Directors and Adaptations
01:15:52
Speaker
Fuck. Oh God, with the recent shit that's been coming out lately. That would be a very dangerous. Just imagine the, the, the Crash Zoom. No, no. When Zuko finds out that Aang's the Avatar. It's Gran Gran's feet. Crash Zoom into Gran Gran's feet. Yeah. So many slow mo.
01:16:13
Speaker
No, but like knowing Quinn, he just age them up to 18 and be like, that might be for the best of anything. Katara feet. Yeah. Some UAF. Oh, there'd be so much UAF. Oh my God. He would. He would just put no, he would just put tough in the show.
01:16:34
Speaker
Yeah you just put put off already in season one I'd be honest with you the avatar books like for Yang Chen and Kyoshi are like legitimately like they're really stretch the young adult rating they got there are some very bloody deaths and murders in the show and the books.
01:16:51
Speaker
I could see him doing that, especially with like, you know, that Ruthie, you know, that one killer air bending move in season three of Cora. I do. That was a Yank Chen invention. The reverse fishbowl. The reverse fishbowl. Oh, that was. I have a serious answer. Okay. Peter Jackson. Yes.
01:17:10
Speaker
He would do it so well. He would do it so well. So well. Okay, yes, please. My silly answer, David Lynch. Understandable. My serious answer, what's his name? Destin Cretin, the dude who's doing the Naruto one and the guy who did Chong Chi? Oh yeah, he could do it. He could get the action down. He does give the characters room to breathe.
01:17:33
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Okay, he would probably do the best like I know I shit on in the discord I should on him being charged with Naruto not cuz I him but more just cuz like you can't fucking adapt Naruto With their art with having the arms flail behind him. It's I could actually It supposedly does actually make you run faster. No, I've seen kids like I've seen little kids that run around That's how they run. Yeah, but supposedly though like somebody to study it does actually kind of help you run faster You're talking about Destin Crichton
01:18:01
Speaker
Yes, Destin Cretin. Thank you. Destin Daniel Cretin. He could do it. All right. Yeah, honestly, but he's he'd be like 30 at the time. Again, I said current or past. Oh, because I don't I don't know any of any directors. I couldn't name any from when I was 10. Dude, I do not.
01:18:21
Speaker
I do not pity him right now being charged a Naruto. Yeah, that's a price. That is so like I feel bad for like there's no way you're gonna appease the hardcore fans. Are they doing a natural show live action movie movie? Well, if they keep it to young Naruto and make it more like earlier level, it'll be great. Like what would they would they even
01:18:44
Speaker
if they just do the bridge, uh, the first, if they just get, yeah, no, if they just get to the Basu, that's all you need. Zabuza. Zabuza. Zabuza. I said it wrong. Zabuza. They just get to Zabuza. If they just do the Zabuza thing. It would be perfect. It would be actually, I would actually watch that like at least twice. And then, and then, and then the second movie would be just the training exams. Oh dude. And then you could do the third movie is, uh, the Sasuke rescue mission. Yeah. You said Roshimaru. Where, where, where Sasuke gets hand wings.
01:19:11
Speaker
Oh yeah. I love the curse mark. So my joke answer, and this is a half joke, but you guys remember what Denny Villeneuve said about liking movies more than TV? I was gonna say Denny, but I switched to David Leitch. Good job. I was thinking Denny, but he does sci-fi better. Because he- Not fantasy.
01:19:31
Speaker
There's so much exposition in both live actions. He would. He would cut through all that bullshit. He would be like, no, I could just show you. Shut up. But my real answer is I think Rian Johnson could do it because he's got a really good comedic timing.
01:19:48
Speaker
him or Jordan Peele could do it a lot, could also get the comedic timing, but I respect that he only wants to do horror stuff right now. And I don't want to see co the face stiller again, I'm good. So.
Creative Suggestions and Recommendations
01:20:01
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Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there real quick. I'm gonna stop you right there. Just to make it easier, because I don't think it's gonna be, I think you went straight from your first one to Jordan Peele really quickly. No, it was Denis Villeneuve. And then my real answer is Rian Johnson.
01:20:17
Speaker
Because Ryan Johnson and Jordan Peele both have really good comedic timing. But Jordan Peele does the horrible thing. Yeah, he's doing the horrible thing. Okay. Do you think Ari Aster would ever do it? No. Again, I don't want to see more Face Stealer. He scared the shit out of me. I feel like he come up with something worse than Face Stealer. Face Stealer? Co the Face Stealer.
01:20:39
Speaker
You don't remember that from the show? The first season? That gave me so many nightmares. Yeah, they didn't bring them back because they kept scaring kids. Yeah. I was sick. Cannot I say he killed Karuk's wife after Karuk. Yeah, he stole her face. You need that. Mm-hmm. Faces are important. Yeah, I don't know. This is a hard fix. I just wouldn't adapt it into movies. I'd adapt it to a show and make it good.
01:21:03
Speaker
Yeah. All right. For anything long form like this, just movies is bad. Yeah. So here's what I'm thinking before we start. Well, OK, you two can give your recommendations of shit. What the hell am I recommending? You should just watch the The Last Airbender show. It just sparks joy. You should get some joy in your life. You should. You need some joy in your life. You need some joy in your life. I can feel it. Mm hmm. Invincible season two, part two just came out today.
01:21:33
Speaker
Well, last Thursday. What? Oh yeah, it did come out last Friday, my bad. Why am I thinking it's Friday? Wow. Wow. Yeah,
Movie Discussions and Punishment Game
01:21:47
Speaker
I haven't seen the episode, but I know it's going to be good. I got a Criterion for Christmas and I haven't watched it until now. It's Memories of Murder.
01:22:01
Speaker
Uh, dude, it's so good. Jesus Christ. It's so good. I had such a good time with that move. Well, not good time, but I had watching murder. Yeah, but it was a great, it was a great one. Yeah. It was a great film. So glad I got to. Got that version.
01:22:22
Speaker
I also, I also watched Jackie Brown. So many. There, there, there is a closeup of feet. Like I'm not even kidding you. Like eight minutes into the movie. Yeah. It's incredible. Also Jackie Brown's definitely, in my opinion, Quinton's weakest, I'd say it definitely looks the least Quinton term. It's from a book.
01:22:45
Speaker
I know, but even the style that it was filmed, it's the least Tarantino style thing. There's no Crash Zoom at all in the entire movie. Makes sense. He probably wanted to pay more respect to the book and stuff. I don't know. Rum Punch is the book, by the way. Okay. All right, so.
01:23:03
Speaker
Oh, maybe there is a crash. It's not. OK, so here's what I'm doing. Here's the thing. Audience behind the scenes, Ed and Ruthie pressure me to pick this monstrosity of a movie. And I thought, well, why don't we have no Ed? That's what happened. You know what to be true. I had the old search your feelings. I had the old audio before I cut it out for time. But you were basically like, you should do after our last airbender. Because I had trouble deciding. So here's what I'm going to do. Here's what I'm just thinking. Let's do a little punishment game.
01:23:33
Speaker
Ruthie's next. I pick for Ruthie, and then Ruthie picks for you. For me? Yes. I like really bad movies. Yeah. I mean, we subject each other to the movies either way. Yes, but like, I felt- We took his autonomy from his choice, so now he's repaying the photo. I didn't mean to. If that doesn't- Hey, hey, Ed.
01:24:02
Speaker
apology not accepted so what I'm going to do is I'm going to pick blow up for Ruthie because she said once you suggest how much she hates them too she has not I'm trying to find the right way in here she has not stopped talking about how much she hates that movie for years since she first saw it it's so bad it was like my Ad Astra so now it's worse than Ad Astra that's yeah at least you start talking about Ad Astra
01:24:26
Speaker
Point being though, I actually after seeing it the second time I kind of got over it. I don't know how to explain it but But I haven't seen blow up yet, so I'm thinking let's just do blow up let's fix what is honestly a very beloved classic in the Criterion community I Didn't though
01:24:53
Speaker
And also, I have an idea for, it's up to Ruthie, but I gave her an idea for a movie for you because the way the movie does it, it's the exact kind of fix you always do. So you'd be shit out of luck. Unless I find something worse. Unless you find something worse. What movie? Power Rangers. You would say, hey, let's slow it down and like have them all get to know each other before they do the big team up. Guess what happens in the actual movie, Ed? Guess what happens? Director after your own heart.
01:25:22
Speaker
But yeah, listen, next time. The new Power Rangers? Yeah, new Power Rangers, yeah. The one that failed for some stupid reason. Well, there's also the older Power Ranger movie with Ivanooz, which is... Well, that's the 20... I mean, yeah. Chef's Kiss. Love Ivanooz. Isn't he from Time Force? No, that was Mighty Morphin, I think. Is the White Ranger in there? Yes, but he was Technic... Yes, but he went... White Power. White Power Ranger.
01:25:51
Speaker
That's what I was getting to. Rest in peace. He died like a year ago. That broke my heart. But more than a year ago. It was more than a year. It feels times weird now. I'm still grieving over Kirito or Yama. Anyway, so point being, next time we're doing blow up and then Ruth next after that will be a bad one. Actually, actually, I'll talk about later. Anyway, goodbye, everyone. Goodbye.