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X-Men Dark Phoenix
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In this Part Two special finishing up the last of the X-Men reboot franchise, the ReShoot crew discusses the comic book accuracy of retconning Jean Grey's Powers between movies. No really.
We do not, nor do we claim to, own the rights to this film in any way, shape, or form.
TW: death, mental illness, trauma, abuse, gaslighting,
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Transcript
Introduction and Humorous Opening
00:00:18
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Reshoot. Naptures guide to good or film. Where we take movies people like, dislike. Well, not people. It's us. We like, dislike. I messed up my own opening. You messed up your own opening. God damn. my own like I have one job. Yes. Ruthie. No, you have three. School, work, podcast.
00:00:36
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School or podcast, yes, so. Obviously the podcast ah is the most important part. Do not tell my classmates that. ah I have a group paper soon. ah so we take movies that We take movies that we like, dislike
Episode Focus: X-Men Dark Phoenix
00:00:50
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somewhere in between. I did say that. And make them objectively better. Objectively. I am doubting myself right now, so. Mostly dislike though. Yeah. Mostly. We chug the haterate. On occasion. On occasion. Yes. Today's movie it was X-Men Dark Phoenix.
00:01:05
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I got two movie picks because these two did not exceed apocalypse. And now
X-Men Movie Order and Viewing Experiences
00:01:10
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we have. You mean to watch X1 through 3? I started with the the Wolverine origin movie. Oh god, fuck. i I know the movies kind of hated, I do like origins. It was a... I think think I watched all of these X-Men movies in order as they came out. Wow. Yeah. Except for Dark Phoenix. I...
00:01:32
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ah I mean, what X-Men movie has there been after Dark Phoenix? Nothing. Deadpool Wolverine. That's not an X-Men movie. Yes, it is. No,
Is Deadpool Part of the X-Men Franchise?
00:01:42
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it's not. It's a Deadpool movie. Have you seen it? What team has Deadpool joined? X-Force. Yeah, which is a subsidiary of...
00:01:52
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Ex-women. Ex-yes. Yes, he got me there. ah He got me there. No, but it's a Deadpool movie. He just has Wolverine with him also. He's in the fucking mansion too, for like two of the films.
00:02:08
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I stumped him. I wish he got stuck. That's right. You see, you see James McAvoy and Nicholas Houlton. And Ryan Reynolds was ah playing Wade in X-Men Origins. And he proceeds and they proceed to shoot. ah yeah i don't go spoil He does mess with that. So ah do you want to introduce yourselves? I don't have a silly name this time. I don't have a silly name either. Ex-woman.
00:02:37
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Yeah, I am ex-woman. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I have to. You know,
Representation of Women in X-Men
00:02:44
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it's funny. They ask in, uh, there's a new ultimate universe in the comics and there's a whole, it there's like a two page thing where they're like, what do we call ourselves? Cause they're all women in the team. It's like X women. No, that sounds, that's too much. Which, which ultimate is this? The one we have X, the ultimate X-Men. Oh, it is the X-Men. Okay. Yeah. they Oh yeah. It's like the first one of the newest issue. It's like, yeah. The new decisions are like, what do we call ourselves? and I don't know. It is hilarious. It was really funny. So, uh, I'm Hector.
00:03:13
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Ruthie. Ed. Ed do. And we do Dark Phoenix. X-Men Dark Phoenix. Yeah. X-Woman Dark Phoenix. He's going to die on that hill. He's going to run that joke into the ground. Just like Raven. Just like what? Just like Raven. Jesus. Yeah. Spoiler alert. That was literally the worst fucking thing I ever heard in this and like in in the entire X-Men things. X-Woman.
00:03:43
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Yeah, no, it was horrible. They said that? Yes. You know, she's like, for all the saving that the women do, why is it called X-Men? She makes women. Oh, right. I her life forgot that line. I mean, don't think she's given the line. She didn't say she didn't say X-women. She just said you might want to change the name. No, she does drop X-women. Oh, she does. Oh, fuck. God damn it. I forgot. Yeah. Those script writers, man. Yeah. Need a raise.
Critique of X-Men Dark Phoenix
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Yeah.
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so episodes there are <unk> e's you i'll start because fuck oh my god So the movie actually was at that it really wasn't i was worthy that It's like everywhere online, this is rated worse than apocalypse. I'm like, what the fuck? The second half was worse. no the second half the The first half is really good, and we're like, why do people hate this so much? And then we got to the second half, and we're like, ah, it's poopy. Yeah, but it's still not as bad as apocalypse. Yeah, but apocalypse was bad throughout the whole thing. And this one drops. Are you fucking stupid? I mean, a little, yeah. This is in grad school. Yes. ah But no. ah
00:04:59
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du ah That came out so fast for me. No, I enjoyed more parts of this movie than I did for Apocalypse, is the thing. Yeah. it My fucking stupid ass notes. We do likes dislikes and fixes, everyone. Yeah. ah So ah again, the ex-woman thing. It was so bad. It was so dumb. It was a like for Ed.
00:05:26
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Don't. I'm sorry what this looks like. He's gonna get a tattoo of that. We're recording in person today, everyone. That's a little more chaotic. um No meds, we die like men. Speak for yourself, my meds ran out of my system two hours ago. Like, the the thing was, like, she said that, but I'm like, wait. Nightcrawler and Cyclops did their part too. They did this shit as a team, you know?
Character Portrayals: Scott, Jean, and Xavier
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Yeah. like And that's the whole point of The X-Men thing is their team. Also, Pietro was there too. pietro Oh yeah, Quicksilver. Yeah, they all did their their job. it's Something just got fucked up and Jean had to be you know broken. the The romance already being established between Jean and Scott was
00:06:16
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jarring to say the least because that there there was no hint of that at all in Apocalypse. Scott, it was like puppy dogging with Jean, but she he like did not notice his existence. I mean, it's 10 years between movies, so yeah I can assume. It's 10?
00:06:34
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yeah it's like apocalypse and oh yeah it's like every decade so this was in the 90s uh that's right but can i just say hector i know you agree with me i don't think that the actors for scott and jean had great chemistry together no no i mean at least not in like the first bit which is weird because i liked the first bit so much yeah for me i felt like It didn't work out at any moment.
00:07:05
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um But, yeah. I mean, the Jean actress is a good actress. Oh, yeah. geneo throne Yeah, yeah. ums but I'm sure good. Oh, ah not a dislike or like, but oh Charles being a fucking lunatic and putting up mental walls in Jean's mind. Straight from the comics.
00:07:32
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really yeah oh my god i mentioned last episode he's kind of he's a dick and he's done this before in the comics kind of an asshole so that can i go into one of my likes quickly just because it makes sense i predicted a lot of the shit in this movie charles being a dick nightcrawler using blades while teleporting oh yeah cyclops had a couple cool like laser like but i mean shots bouncing like it was i i don't know i'm like dang i they were i was one off i'd never seen this one before Yeah. ah Charles is an asshole. Yeah, he is. A lot of longtime X-Men fans are, like, iffy on him. You can tell if somebody's an X-Men movies fan or an X-Men comics fan when you ask them how they feel about Charles x Xavier. yeah or if they Or if you can ask them to list 30 mutants and how easy it is for them. Paradox is a mutant. Wolverine? You already said Wolverine.
00:08:31
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three times ah i i mean there's a lot of wolverines that's not wrong i don't know how many i can name it i think i can name at least i fifteen we can do that as a bonus fifteen to twenty um yeah ah what what the fuck is the point of the aliens like what the I know what the point of the aliens are. They didn't even need to... three Is the aliens a comics thing? I mean, they're probably the bigger Marvel universe, so yeah. No, the aliens is times. because Hollywood is too scared to do, like, complicated thing where main character is also probably a bad guy. I mean, they do that... Oh, well, they do that for, like, you know, like, drama and, like, Oscar bait bullshit, but not this shit, yeah.
00:09:17
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This is a comic book. It's a blockbuster comic book movie. Come on. They're not going to let you. Let you be creative with. Yeah. What what are the conflicts and stuff like that? They're going to give you lines like you're going to be ex women and they're going to give you aliens to shoehorn conflict. Hey, I'm your hater aid tonight. Chug chug. The aliens is the
Alien Inclusion in Dark Phoenix
00:09:42
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stupidest fucking thing. Oh, no, for sure. The movie would have worked.
00:09:45
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so much better if you just remove them from like, even just removing them out of the fucking movie, the movie still works. Yeah, the the aliens are like, don't you don't, you don't have to change anything else. Just remove the other reason why they added aliens. Well, because if they kept it, it's just Jean, it would have been a retread of three where she's the Phoenix and so But there's a reboot you don't want to retread. That's the issue. They kind of were trying to have their cake and eat it, too, where it's like, we're going to fix Dark Phoenix. Also, we're not going to have the same ending because logical ending because, you know, it's around aliens. Yeah, but isn't OK. Hold on. I'll mention that in my
Improving Dark Phoenix
00:10:28
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fixes. Sorry. I'll go back to. ah Yeah. And like the things that I liked again, everything about Magneto. Fucking fast vendor like. I don't know why, but he just like
00:10:42
Speaker
Whose blood is that? To put so much work into the into these movies where he didn't need to. He wants that raise car money and ah race car money. car money? He's a race car driver. No. He switched cars. That's Bender? What? Yeah. His Bender is very fast.
00:10:59
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and
00:11:04
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I'm not going to say it. Bender. Bender. Bender. OK. You're seeing shame. What? Bender is very fast. Shame. um
00:11:18
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Yeah, everything about Eric, everything about James McAvoy as well. Someone recently asked, like, he was talking with some fan recently, it was on video, and he was like, which one's your least favorite? but but and Somehow he got to talking and they somehow brought up like, what's your least favorite film I've been in? yeah And she was just like, Darth Phoenix. And he was the first like, wait, why? And he's like, because you were made evil. And I'm like, Oh, okay. Because I guess he thought he was a bad actor in it. They were saying, I'm like, I thought I didn't work here. James back of his worst movie that I've seen him in probably wanted. Didn't he like not have a wasn't he not given a script for that film?
00:11:53
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Not given a script. There's a film I learned recently he was in where he wasn't given a script. He was supposed to ad-lib. Post-Speak No Evil. Probably the one that just came out. Or was it Sammab? No, I don't remember. Sammab? I want to speak No Evil, but I want to see the original Danish version first. Oh, yeah. I heard they're pretty similar. The ending's completely different. It's basically like funny games. Don't spoil. I haven't done much about it. I'm just saying that like the original Swedish or whatever version. Danish. Danish and the American version.
00:12:23
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almost shot for shot the same way except for the end they'd swap the big and and the director of their freighter funny games no for uh speaking of evil yeah the director got really mad he's talking about it oh yeah he's talking about funny games basically shot because it was the same director he just made it in the english version too um i've only seen the danish version though uh watch foreign cinema everyone too um yeah uh everything about sorry eric charles uh the bar scene was cool where you know she was like making everyone think she's an old man she was an old man because it's fucking busted powers and it really is um and then i have a note here and i don't know what the fuck i was trying to use oh uh back to real quick back to dislikes why didn't gene just
00:13:22
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take off Magneto's helmet at the end there? Why did she like try to crush it? Like just take it off and then you can- She was just towing with him. Yeah. Yeah. She's just showing like, oh, you can control metal. Oh, let me oh forcibly press this metal that you can't pull off of you onto your head. Yeah. No, she was just towing with him. She wasn't going to kill him.
00:13:46
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yeah um but yeah that's that's basically it like my biggest gripe with this movie was the fucking aliens and i don't want to talk about it oh also actually real quick um so like in apocalypse they mention the whole she is the moment where she's got she's like blasting yeah and and there's there's like there's like freaking like lines in the movie that allude to that she already has the Phoenix in her. Yeah. And and then they're just like, nope. Yeah, cause we know how many times in the comics they have changed it to the Phoenix was always a part of Jean and it's a literal alien force.
00:14:35
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Do you know how many times... It's a cosmic entity. Do you know how many times... No, right now, currently, she has always been part of the Phoenix Force and that she can... it's It goes back and forth. If anything, as stupid as it was, this is a knock more on the comics than the movie, but a little bit of the movie too, them retconning this shit is the most comic accurate I think any movie's been. Retconning for one of the Phoenix Forces. Yeah, it's it's it's literally super comic accurate.
00:15:02
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We were all giving them shit, but man, they knew their shit. Yeah. It was just, it was weird. Also pulling the Phoenix force out of Jean would kill her. Cause it was super quick and it became a part of her, I guess. I don't know. It's still how it works. I know it's not how it works, but they need drama. So dumb. All right. I'll just jump straight into my fixes. Remove the aliens. All right. Hector, your turn. Just kidding.
00:15:32
Speaker
oh Okay, Ed. Thank you. So hello, everyone. um No. First, remove the aliens. Okay. Completely. Rosie's raising her hand. Yes. There is one scene where they are not relegated to lamp status. The whole, the bar scene? At this point, she's so powerful, she can cloak herself. Nobody can find her. Except for the aliens. Except for the aliens.
00:16:03
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And that advances the plot because that's when she's like, okay, yeah, finally, yeah, I'm gonna accept the Phoenix. I'm gonna be a bad bitch. Hey, you know who could probably figure out where Jean is? Who? Cyclops. Okay.
00:16:24
Speaker
Easy fix. Easy fix. I had to ask. Yeah, he since the the relationship was already established, he probably knows if she's having some issues, what she would kind of do. like he wouldn't And I don't know how easy it would be for him to find out who Jean is at this bar, but I think just by ah looking at her looking at him, he would know. yeah Or like she'd like mentally change the jukebox. like She's missing Scott. She'd change it to their song. He's like, you're looking at the jukes. Yeah.
00:17:01
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so make a settle man or something like she doesn't take up the club
00:17:10
Speaker
You're missing your teeth, but that tongue can't know it anywhere yeah No, but yeah remove the aliens and then you just have you know, you're like how in apocalypse you just remove apocalypse from fucking movie and you get the whole thing of the X-Men becoming a team and all that shit. And it works because that's how this movie starts off. The X-Men being like already a team established and well known. Yes, really. Would Oscar Isaac also be in this movie because he's not Apocalypse and he's not dead? Yeah, you can show up as Moon Knight. But we- But wasn't he sunspot in your fix? No, it's just when you're having a randomly Moon Knight, just be like, is that legal? We will make it legal.
00:17:56
Speaker
But the moonates Marvel. But the comic rights, right? In your last episode, i sunspo and your' in our last episode, you took out Apocalypse and I said, are you going to put him back in? Because why would you not have Oscar Isaac in the movie? and Yeah. And then we went through the list of mutants. Oh, yeah. yeah mean tangent you You would be like on my Natives team, Sunspot or whatever. Yeah.
00:18:18
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Well, I mean, you know, be oh, he's still evil, right? Yeah. Yeah, because in mypo fix it was the whole thing was like establishing the X-Men as an actual thing, finally. And it's like the classic Magneto versus X-Men.
00:18:32
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um
00:18:36
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But this movie. um Yeah. Yeah, already well known. Perfect start for my for my fixes from apocalypse, basically.
00:18:48
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And then I would have, you know, the whole Phoenix force gets in her, ah like through the space thing, because I liked that more than the, it's already insider. I didn't know that was an actual thing. People that they did in the comics. I hate it. Um, again, it's back and forth. I know, but I hate that one. I hate the one where she's always, I didn't read the Krakow era, the newest one, but I think they kind of found a way to combine both. Both that I don't.
00:19:16
Speaker
I don't know. I like the Phoenix Force being an entity like that. Like Wanda's... Math will give her symbiote. More aliens. Like Wanda's Chaos Force. How many aliens can we pile in there? Fucking Black Widow has the symbiote now. Let's do it. Because Wanda's power is the Chaos Force, right? The Chaos Force? Scarlet Witch. It's not like the Chaos Force. She has Chaos. No, she has her mutant abilities that she has an innate connection to Chaos Magic. So she can just do a bunch of random shit.
00:19:44
Speaker
I thought it was like an actual like something like the Phoenix Force. I think it's called Chaos like Force or Chaos Magic. Chaos Magic. I think that's more Marvel Cinematic Universe. No, she has. No, this is a comics thing. It's a comics thing. it a yeah They the movies at first were just giving her that weird kind of to telekinesis, but then they. But now they're now they're like embracing like the magic. Yeah, cool. No, but she I'm sure she has the Chaos Force.
00:20:10
Speaker
I think there's a different name, but you're I know what you're talking about. You're right. Anyways, Phoenix Force enters her body in space because it's, I think that it's actually true that it is attracted to Jean because she's so fucking unbelievably broken, right? Yeah. Strongest telepath, telekinetic. Isn't she stronger than Charles telepathically? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think, are you talking pre-Fiend without the Phoenix Force? Without the Phoenix Force. I think she's up there, but I'm not sure. I don't, yeah.
00:20:39
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and do I'm learning too much school shit, okay? I have to throw away X-Men. It's X-Men knowledge from my brain. It's sad. Yeah. ah Yeah, that happens. And ah i how I would start the change thing is when the Phoenix Force comes in, Jean, with her brokenness, like kind of da tries to stop it.
00:21:04
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And then in her mind, the Phoenix Force and Jean kind of have like a very short conversation. Because that's how it is in the comics, right? She can talk to the Phoenix Force. I never read much of the Dark Phoenix. Yes, she can. I think once in a while. I saw it's a Krakoa era. They have a deal, is what I read, I think. Her and the Phoenix Force have like a deal. And once she becomes Phoenix, Jean just becomes Phoenix.
00:21:34
Speaker
yeah actually currently in space i think you're about to do a big space adventure with her yeah cosmic adventures um yeah cool You mentioned that last time. this come That comes in in my fixes. Oh, damn. You're using my nerd knowledge against me. It's cool, though. It is cool. But yeah, Jean tries to stop it, and the Phoenix force is just like, bitch, get out of Bitch, you thought. Bitch, you thought. No, I'm i'm getting in here. No, no, no, no, no, no. Much not all the telepathic energy. Yummy.
00:22:09
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And then yeah, the movie basically plays out more or less the same with Gene struggling with all of that. Going to Eric for help, Eric saying a stupid line of like, uh, what was it? Or are you going to have, uh, Raven die? Mystique? I don't, nobody's going to die in this.
00:22:28
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Maybe maybe somebody who I don't know but like Something Eric said something about can't control. It was her choice Lamelle something. I don't know. I have that in my notes I don't know what I meant. I was just moving like three weeks ago um Basically plays out the same um Except In the scene where she's in the house and she's like crushing Eric's fucking face and and like Charles is there also. like i want At that scene, I want Jean to, like with help, to kind of like get back into her brain and like kind of hold back the Phoenix Force to actually have an actual conversation with it. So is the Phoenix Force like puppeting her in a way?
00:23:24
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ah or is it just like it's more like an eldritch kind of thing it's just doing it's just kind of doing things it's not really it all all the phoenix forces like this bitch is powerful i'm gonna nom and jean with her so it just like releases her inhibitions feel the rain on your skin yeah crush this man's skull in a helmet yeah well the phoenix force can like what do you think the rain is blood i mean the the phoenix force can like also just tell like oh this is dangerous for me for this thing that i really want and so like it protects itself from like what perceived threats and stuff and it just wants to nom on this all-powerful basically being and just being
00:24:07
Speaker
It's not really puppeting her, but it's just like, you know, doing, it's doing, it's just doing. You just turn it into the symbiote. No, because the symbiote isn't feeding off the host. No, but it is. It's a symbiote. It's living off the host. And it's also like, it's fucking it up a little. Yeah, but the feeding source can survive outside of the host. It just wanted this host because it's yummy telepathic stuff.
00:24:32
Speaker
he probably it's just It just feels good to be inside Jean. The Phoenix Force just enters in. Wow, I'm such a Game of Thrones fan. Man, and I got your autograph.
00:24:45
Speaker
ah oh She's just angry all the time because it's just shouting at her. All of her best sense aligns. Yeah. but i But in that house scene, ah or like near the end, basically, Charles with help kind of pushes back the Phoenix Force so that Jean can pop back into her brain.
00:25:04
Speaker
and hold it back and they actually have an actual conversation and then they come to an agreement and the Phoenix Force is like, this place sucks. i will let you I will let you have control with my power but we have to get the fuck out of here because I don't like this place.
00:25:25
Speaker
right? This metal guy? Whack. Whack, yeah. And then you can have it. Cold man. And as they fly away, you have what I've done by Linkin Park. No, but yeah, and then eventually like they come to the screaming, they become more of a harmonious unity. And then she's like,
00:25:46
Speaker
ah turns to like Phoenix Force wants me to go on cosmic adventures and then she just leaves. I have to go to space now. The Phoenix in my head told me to. Yeah, by yeah ah but i guess I guess she could have accidentally just like killed a couple people. She kills Scott and then she leaves.
00:26:13
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whoops ever die actually I mean, every it's X-Men. They've all died. They've all they've all died. Did he die in X3? Yeah, he did die in X3. Very beginning. Oh, that's right! Yeah, wait, because Jean works him, right? Yeah, Jean works him. And she works Xavier, too. And Magneto. No, not Magneto. Not Magneto. Magneto lives.
00:26:36
Speaker
But no, uh, yeah. Also, it's in the comics. It'll die. She will accidentally kill Scott once Scott finds her in the bar. As much as I like Scott, that's completely fine. She'll just accidentally atomize the bar and everybody inside including Scott. You want to make it hurt and just fossil me? You hurt the innocent one. You hurt Kurt.
00:27:00
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nope you kill that girl no no no no no she just atomizes the bar and everybody in there accidentally kill scott she's making out with scott and it disguises an old man she's just like too much disguise and no they just have a very short conversation she starts freaking out again it really is atomizes everything it really is x3 all over again huh yeah how many old men are making out next three There was like deleted scene between Charles and Eric. And i and then I guess she can also
00:27:45
Speaker
Yeah, that would probably be better if you're gonna do more films because you don't have to worry about like why isn't the speech they're solving everything. Yeah. She'll just accidentally murk Scott and the entire bar just atomize everything there.
00:27:57
Speaker
And then near the end, she'll just like, Quicksilver tries to like, you know, restrain her. And she's just like. While he's in the speed thing, like just like in the movie, she just turns to look at him. Yeah, just like the the Superman thing. She just kind of like slowly turns to him, just like. Well, she didn't even like, she started slow, but then she got to like real speed. For me, I was like, oh I love this. Oh yeah, because she does match him, right? Yeah, yeah she did match him.
00:28:27
Speaker
Yeah, she'll just do the the Dr. Manhattan wave and just... And yeah, she goes on comic Cosmic Adventures as the Phoenix. Yeah. That's a good fix. Yeah, you just remove the aliens. Yeah, remove the aliens. She just... That's all you do. And it's a good movie. What? Did you hear Jingle? I did this. No, I heard like a Jingle from the bedroom. Might be the baby. The boy. but We have a cat.
00:28:57
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Alright, Ed, who do you want next, Cesar?
00:29:02
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Ruthie. I faked you out so much. You shaked me out. Um, yeah, I really, like I said earlier, I really liked the first half of this movie. I didn't take notes. So again, we're rocket dog and guys and gals and non-binary pals. Um, I really enjoyed, I liked the scene, uh, where the X-Men confront, uh, Jean at her house.
00:29:30
Speaker
Just everything about that. I know Mystique dies, I know that makes you upset, but for me it was like, oh, that's good shit right there. Check it in my veins. I liked the bit where Jean goes to Magneto's island, which name? Janosha. Janosha. This is Ser Janosha. Yeah. Oh, can I actually... I want Mystique to join Magneto at the end also. I mean, yeah. Yeah, yeah. yeah and
00:29:58
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um Charles was a dick and that was really funny because Hector's like, yes, He's human. He makes mistakes. That's what I mean. I don't say i just like and he's a i don't want to be like v a villain. It's just kind of fun when he's a dick sometimes. it's like He would be. He it would be. Like realistically, he would be. I don't like when he's perfect. He's still human. Also, the X-Men fucking switch sides all the time. It's half the fun of X-Men.
00:30:30
Speaker
Like fucking, I think Eric's run the school before. Like it's, it happens. Yeah. Uh, there was a lot of little things that I still stand by my Scott and Jane didn't feel like a couple, but there were some like little moments between like,
00:30:51
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the X-Men and like the kids, where it felt like there was real camaraderie there. Oh, like the kids and the students? The students, but like the rest of the X-Men, it really felt like they had been like working together. Yeah. Yeah. No, for real. That was good. That was actually there. I could see it. Mm hmm. I could feel it.
00:31:09
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um
00:31:12
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Nicholas Hold, the entire cast did a really great job. um I agree with you guys just likewise. Aliens, you can remove the aliens and you can pretty much have the same movie. I thought it was so dumb that they're like, oh no, the Phoenix, it's coming. Oh wow, it hits her now and now she has the Phoenix Force. Certainly she didn't have it earlier. Ha, don't watch the the previous movie please. Yeah.
00:31:37
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on
00:31:41
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to think Yeah, the second half of the movie is kind of just doo-doo-ass. I mean, it is! Because they have like, rely- This is the way you said it. It's doo-doo-ass. It's doo-doo-ass. Because it's mostly just dumb shit. The first half is really smart, and then the second half is just oh no I like the street fight, but like but but what it the train get there that the train was what after as soon as the train scene. I'm like, oh, I checked it really quickly. I do want to mention that I and was drinking while watching this movie because I thought it was going to be really bad. Worse than apocalypse. How did they get to the train?
00:32:23
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Oh wow. Striker got to... It wasn't Striker. It was just the US government. Oh, that's right. They captured them. Yeah. It's a ride that it's Striker, right? He's Canadian. That's right. The government captures them. He's Canadian. No, he technically broke into a place. He broke international law and tried to get American... Wait, Striker? Striker's Canadian? Yeah. X-Force. X-Force. Weapon X isn't... Just too many X's. Weapon X is in Canada, I'm pretty sure. Hold up. So you're telling me...
00:32:52
Speaker
Ryan Reynolds being Canadian was perfect sense. Yeah, no, it was. He was literally. Yeah, no, those Canadians chose to be Canadian and they're anti. No, he didn't choose to be Canadian. He is. I'm making a joke, dingus dingus. No, he's so we hold up. So we live in the universe.
00:33:12
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where Ryan Reynolds literally is fight yeah like Not just like because he got his dream of that, but like he is literally Deadpool because he's Canadian and fucking it the comics mentions Deadpool says that he looks like Ryan Reynolds and a Sharpay. That was after he played him in Next Men Origins was when that joke was made.
00:33:40
Speaker
Damn it. But the story was during Blade Trinity, ah he kept making jokes and someone's like, someone in the crew or an actor was like, you look like, you're already a Deadpool. He's like, who's Deadpool? And then he read the comics and he's like, I want to be Deadpool. No, he didn't say I want to be. He's like, I am Deadpool. That was also Patrick Stewart when he read Next Man, when he's auditioning. He's like, why am I in a comic book? Yep.
00:34:08
Speaker
Can confirm. Wait, what? Yes, I've heard this story. Yes, Patrick Stewart. Somebody said, wow, you look at like Professor X. And he's like, who the fuck is Professor X? And they read the comic. And he's like, who put me in a goddamn comic book?
00:34:20
Speaker
This is before you played. Yes. Yeah. And then Nick Fury was actually, Samuel Jackson's Nick Fury was funny. Oh yeah. Every Nick Fury is now Samuel Jackson and Jackson is like, I don't know why, but like. No, it was, but so it was the original ultimate universe back in the early 2000s. It was a black Nick Fury and it was based off of Samuel Jackson and the MCU was based off that ultimate universe.
00:34:42
Speaker
Oh, so that's why they and but I remember like people asked Jackson about like how like Nick Fury not looks like him. He's like, I don't get it. He actually explained in the comics. It's Nick Fury's son, also named Nick Fury, who is who ah he had a he had a kid was a black woman, I guess. And he had. Yeah, but like, Jackson's just so like chill about it it. I don't I don't get it, but sure. ah Too busy watching Hentai anyways. Anyway, sorry.
00:35:12
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um Yeah, I don't know, the second half is just really messy. Here's my fix. We're gonna jump we're going to start with a flashback. Oh shit. Jean Grey is a little girl and she's convincing her parents to go stargazing because the Northern Lights are supposed to be out tonight. Oh.
00:35:35
Speaker
And they're driving back and we just get, she's just like, Oh, I think that one's getting bigger and it's implied, but we don't see it. that That's the moment where she causes the car crash that kills her mom. She wakes up and... Oh, are they st driving to the Sea of the Stars? Yeah, they're like driving back. Oh, okay. Okay. They'd seen the northern lights and like, oh, it's and green and Oh, there's one that's kind of orange. That's weird. Let's ignore that for now.
00:36:10
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You know that for now. And ah she wakes up and she's in the hospital. um Eric is at the door telling people off and he's like ah people are like, wow, don't you look familiar? He's like, yeah, yeah, no, it's fine, it's fine. Just let this guy in, he's the child psychologist. And someone's like, no, no, I called this child psychologist an hour ago. And Charles is like, no, you didn't, I'm here, it's fine. Also Eric's working again. All right, from the last one, you said Eric working at the school, right?
00:36:39
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And ah Charles and Eric are talking to Jean and ah kind of similar interactions. I think ah Charles is the one who kind of introduces the idea of like, oh, this can be a gift. And she's like, I don't know if this is a gift. I just killed my family, apparently. And then like Eric, he Charles hands her the pen, but Eric is the one who lifts the pen out. I don't know. It's weird that Charles didn't show that he was also a mutant and to me in that moment. I don't know.
00:37:09
Speaker
But that's it. That's the flashback. I want the two of them to but be together. Jean Grey has that.
00:37:18
Speaker
yeah does and just like caution like Does Charles still put the walls and in? Yes. Is that why Eric leaves?
00:37:31
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ah well Again, I'm connecting this with apocalypse. He leaves at the end of that because he's like, fuck this, you apocalypse, lump humans and mutants together. I don't like that. Charles, you do the same damn thing. ah Fuck that. And he's just pissy and he leaves. yeah In the start of this movie, yeah, there's that Then there's the the bit where they go to space. I'm gonna say that Scott and Jean were on a date, and that's when they get called in. So you can just get a little bit on the street. And they go to space, they do the mission, Jean dies. Jean whole ass dies. But it's the Phoenix Force. It was dormant until she died. does if So like a Phoenix, she rises again. Yes. Okay.
00:38:24
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Kind of like what the movie was doing a little better. Yes. She just made X2.
00:38:32
Speaker
Well, X2. Jean dies in X2. Yeah. And then she comes back as a Phoenix in X3. Oh, the mouth. Wow. But yeah, no, the original Phoenix SmackDown, surprise, it happened when she was a kid.
00:38:47
Speaker
To be fair, the X2, X3, I didn't like how they handled it. Hers is a little better. Yeah, of course. I'm just saying like... Keep in mind, I haven't seen either. I know. I've seen like half an hour before. I know. Yeah, you mentioned that and I'm just like, wow. Nothing new under the sun. Anywho... One more original thoughts. That's why I go past the sun. Then everything you think is new.
00:39:12
Speaker
ah Yeah, I want to make it... Ed's angry with that. You just have new thoughts at night when the sun has turned off. Are you fucking stupid? Yes. Next question. um That way, I don't know. Jean's just like 0-1-0-100. She's like, I'm fine. im I'm powerful. And everyone's like, I like the idea of her being like, no, you guys, you don't get it. I'm more powerful. And they're like, you just fucking died?
00:39:43
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just Like, because in my mind, what's going on is like, she's dead. They're what they're looking at her being dead. And then all of a sudden, like, while she's in space, she like, not sets up, but she starts moving and like, trying to swim towards the ship. Again, just pull yourself. Okay, well, how do you say that again? ah Yeah, I know. Say it again. How do you say telekinesis?
00:40:14
Speaker
I said it very, yeah, I don't know. Merry Christmas! Merry Chrysler! Same energy. i Happy crisis. I have no idea why it came out that way, but it did. Don't worry, Ed, you just went for the new nuclear app. I said that one more. Oh, you just have to say nuclear to trigger me. yeah yeah Nuclear. It's nuclear. Nuclear. Nuclear. At least it's CL. Anyways. Anywho, yeah, I would not have the aliens Again, you don't need them. I think I would trade it out for Stryker. Stryker's the one who's kind of egging on Jean. I think I would have like the start of that be when they're at the house as much as I love that scene. Have the X-Men show up and then have Stryker show up because I don't know maybe he's got a way to like track mutant power levels and he's able to find a huge spark spike here and
00:41:11
Speaker
Charles is trying to calm down the situation, he's trying to make everything right, and Stryker's like, do it, fucking do it. i'm gonna I'm gonna annihilate you in just a moment. You you think you're powerful? i'm gonna I'm gonna kick your ass. And she just blitzes everything. Just atomizes him. She doesn't atomize him, because i but like she does like go pretty much the same effect. I don't want to change too much, because I like that scene. but Just, yeah, she shows off her powers. Mystique dies, Quicksilvers, everybody's horribly injured. And Stryker's like, I'm gonna get out of here. I need something. Same thing again. yeah just Okay, he's my job is done. He's the fucking jobber of the villains. Well, yeah, I think he's just like trying to egg her on to prove to everyone else how horrible mutants are.
00:42:04
Speaker
okay i thought he was like gonna actually try and stop or anything oh he's not trying no what he's doing is he's trying to like i guess pull elects luther of egg on the most powerful person do you want a different person who i think would fit or do you want to keep it uh senator kelly no i'll extract it better He was in the first one. He's a mute he's a guy who hates mutants. Oh, yeah. And then he gets he gets killed in the first one. He gets gooed. Was he the guy that had a lot of iron? Or was that? No, no, no. the Senator Kelly, he's in the and the original trilogy. He's the the father of an angel. No, that's someone else.
00:42:45
Speaker
That's a different senator. Oh, it's a different senator little amount never mind cuz they killed Senator Kelly too early and they're like we need to do some other dude um Yeah, but we don't striker yeah, no like s second matter for me I don't see why a senator would Be the one to chase around gene and kind of and you on so pass a anti-mutant legislation No, but like, no, like but he's a public figure. Why would he go to her house and start harassing her? That is a good point. I take it back. Yeah. Striker. Striker. Yeah. Jean like flees to Eric because he's her dad, her second dad. And she's like,
00:43:33
Speaker
Ah, he's, again, just kinda like, whose blood do you have? Great job scaring the shit out of Stryker. Love that, that was fantastic. But why are you covered in blood? It's not your blood. How does he know who's, oh, is there technology there? No, no, no, again, he doesn't know who's blood it is. It's like the original. That happens in the same room. He keeps asking. No, I know, I know. How do you know about the scaring Stryker? Does she say that part? She might have said, like, oh, Stryker's. It took me a second night. You caught that on air, my bad.
00:44:02
Speaker
Do they not have TVs? and No, he mentions that they don't have TVs or radios. He's like, we don't get news out here. I don't care about humans. But yeah, that's pretty much what I would do. I don't know if I'd kill her off at the end just to make it a little bit different, but I don't know how else to deal with the Phoenix Force. Go to space. Cosmic Adventures. Redemption of going to space and saving aliens.
00:44:34
Speaker
She didn't even kill her again. She'll come back in like nine years. You just have Wolverine show up and kill her again. yeah Wolverine's still covered in the rusty gear. He's just... Sorry,
00:44:47
Speaker
but sorry what's up? He's fighting saber too, if they just fly off. He he gets sent flying. he doesn't His claws are out and he just... Deadpool shows up, grabs grabs Gene and he's like, sorry guys, I gotta take her to the Iron Throne. Bye.
00:45:03
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ah
00:45:08
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But you know, spoiler alert, next three, Wolverine kills Jean. I know that. second Okay, for the second time. it's Yeah, it's real dumb. Ruthie's not a fan of the Wolverine, Jean.
00:45:22
Speaker
There was a time when Storm and you over-indated. You're not a fan of that love triangle with James Scott. It was a borderline throttle in the recent comic era, by the way. It's just so weird to me because I know he's like 200 years old. Yeah. That's fair. But like... Does it really matter? I mean, she's like 30 in the comics when they usually meet. Yeah. See, for me, recency bias.
00:45:49
Speaker
Apparently, they met when she was in high school. Oh yeah, that's right. You always go to the movies, I'm talking, I'm thinking comics. And he was mindless. I was thinking comics, my bad. Technically, he would have no memory of her, but still bad. Yeah.
00:46:05
Speaker
But they do have the they do have the little thing there where she kind of unlocks some memories. Yeah, I think she just like stopped him from being mindless in that moment. He's like, I need to get the fuck out of here. But yeah, anyways, that that's that would be my take on the movie.
00:46:23
Speaker
I like the Deadpool one. The Deadpool ending. Hey, sorry, sorry, but like... She's gotta go to the north. She's the Queen of the North. Queen of the North, like, we gotta... sorry. No, that was a good fix. It was a good fix. And then he just opens up the portal from like the Loki show just again. Alright. My turn. Alright, so my first like...
00:46:45
Speaker
Um, I actually liked the first half. I actually really thought it was fun. Because it's not doo doo ass. No, it's not doo doo ass. I like the drama they're doing. It was good. Uh, classic X-Men switching sides all the time. It's just fun. It's just fun. Like, I don't know. It's stupid at times, but God, I love it. Like, all right. My dislikes. This was once again, two whole ass movies crammed together. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:47:15
Speaker
Also, again, aliens. Why? Yeah, I'm glad we agree on that. The second half is just straight action. Then they kind of let the character arts kind of drag and then they rush to the finish line. It just feels unsatisfactory for some other reason, too. Maybe I'm not sure. Yeah, it's it's like they're building up to good conflict, but then they just have conflict for the second conflict and then they get back to the good. show You know what was satisfying at the end, though?
00:47:43
Speaker
There's always a speech. And we don't care. No, Eric with the guns. Oh, yes. That was so fucking cool. It was cool. He's just standing there with like this like concerned look on his face. Like 50 guns are just going off. He's just like
00:48:07
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that that's not gonna translate over to audio i know but still just he had a pretty serious like that face he did like the he did the mewing face kind of the fuck is mewing oh my god we need to show mewing show what mewing is and we're gonna look max you we're gonna look okay i'll just plan later so uh no chemistry also the president stopped talking to charles x xavier real fast it was it was lots of dislike almost alike it it was so ridiculous it felt so mean girls it was so mean girls also this is the 90s so this would be w uh hw hw h w but i don't know too much about hw so i wouldn't know if that's accurate or not i don't know
00:48:50
Speaker
Um, for some reason, every time they have an ex president in these movies, they're surprisingly apolitical. It's kind of impressive. Yeah. Cause like, if it was Reagan, I feel like Reagan would be like really petty where he would be like, Oh my God, me and Charles are best friends. And then as soon as one bad thing happens, he's like, i you're not seeing my white yourena see my wife anymore. I don't think Reagan would be very accepting of the mutants at all. No, he wouldn't. Like from the very beginning. No, Bill Clinton, Nancy on the other hand, no, Bill Clinton would be to a toothpaste batch.
00:49:23
Speaker
Look me in the eye. Who? Quentin? He would. He'd be what, bitch? Two-faced bitch. He'd be like, me and Charles are your besties, and then now it'll talk to me. Yeah, probably. Oh, yeah. And Reagan would be like, I don't know you. And they and then and then Mystique gets some...
00:49:40
Speaker
Does this open us up to slander you guys? I don't i don't know. i I'd like to see them try. I'd like to see Clinton sue us for being like he would not be friends with mutants. and I'd love to see that. It would be funny if it was Mystique who got Clinton impeached.
00:49:57
Speaker
Holy fuck. Oh, I don't think we can keep that in. Holy shit. Is this like the made up movies bit where they're starting to talk about? We're not we're not talking about that. Anywho, yeah. Yeah, no access to Nancy anymore, Charles.
00:50:18
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um um What that be? Crazy though, if you stick to do that.
00:50:26
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yeah It would. A lot of reviewers are gonna be like, wait, where are they politically now on this spectrum? It's like, no, we just like to shitpost right now with mutants. Listen to our previous episodes. Melissa, which Joker? I got political there. There's a couple where we get political. You know, and I don't think it's hard to... Joker, I hate it back in the day because it was our first one. I want to alienate. And by like the time we did Don't Look Up, I gave up and I'm just gonna be real. And I was very...
00:50:56
Speaker
We're alienate you. We alienate the people we want to alienate. Yeah, we do. It's like, it's all right. We've literally told people to look up product on 25 to not vote, to make sure we don't vote them in. Like, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, fixes. Mystique doesn't go to space.
00:51:17
Speaker
Instead, it's Scott calling the shots as he's been taught by Charles and Mystique how to be the leader. How it's supposed to be. Because Mystique just hates fighting. I don't know why they keep putting her in the face. I don't... Her whole power is subterfuge. Why are you making her in the face? That's what bothers me. God damn, I finally said it out loud. What? You got to in my head. But Scott being the leader, like things would be right in the universe.
00:51:42
Speaker
uh during the space mission it was just simple solar flares not the phoenix force not anything crazy well it wasn't like the solar flares were the phoenix force she starts to pass out and then her dormant power comes out she does have looks like and as she's absorbing the starlight it does make her look like a phoenix as she gets to the plane or the so far whatever i don't So, and then as she's talking, she's like, oh, I'm fine. Everything's good. You know that scene in, uh, what we do in the shadows, we're calling Robinson's like, woo! And he crushes a trash can that I want that. Like she's getting, cause at first I was like, is the Phoenix Force like by like mania? Yeah, you did. And then I'm like, I don't think so, but who knows? Right? Cause if it was, it's kind of insensitive. So, but I kind of want her to get like, it's too much power. It's overwhelming her. She's trying to let it out, but she's just being like,
00:52:36
Speaker
It's too much. not trying to be yeah I'm not trying to be like insensitive to people with mania, because I know a lot, and like it's a tough thing to live with. And I'm like i'm not trying to disrespect it. It's just so, but I'm i'm trying to find a line. You're trying to recognize the struggle that these people go with. Yes, and I'm not trying to use that in the movie, because I don't think a superhero movie, unless you're really careful, is the right way to pay respect to that.
00:53:01
Speaker
So I'm not gonna, I'm just, I'm just saying it's just simple, like too much power, overwhelming. Moon Knight does it well, but I'm not writing Moon Knight. I'm trying to write the X-Men. You could make an argument that Spider-Man covers.
00:53:23
Speaker
can It can kind of, cause he's so powerful at times, but then there's also like those moments where, you know, The same thing that makes him so feel so powerful takes away his agency. Like, uh, far from no way home. Like it was a mania thing? Or are you just talking about mental health? Mental health in general, I guess. I don't know. I'm kind of talking out of my ass right now. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. like I'm trying to understand, but I'm not picking it up. Um, so she goes to her father as she hears him and she's acting kind of like, like, no, I need to calm down. Charles is trying to,
00:54:00
Speaker
she figures out Charles is trying to control her, and instead of just blocking him out, what she does is she basically overwrites his mind so that she he she put a block on him to not be able to... to not like He can physically or psychically read her mind, but he just she overwrites it, so it's like, no, he won't want to or be able to. like He can try, but it's like someone's just stopping him. Same thing, right? I feel it was a little more evil than just like blocking.
00:54:28
Speaker
like Yeah, she's directly... like Taking his will. Yes, the he took hers a little bit. She's taking his right back. ah She goes to see her father and she's like, I need something to control. I need I need to be calm. I want to see my dad again. I thought he was dead. Same shit happens. The I don't want Peter there. Pietro and Peter in the movies, I think. So he's on some secret mission from Charles to hunt down some anti mutant terrorists.
00:55:00
Speaker
Keep that in mind. So fight goes the same. I like the idea of Mystique though talking to Jean, like based off the last one being like, hey, we got close. Hey, and then same thing, but when Mystique dies, she says, I to Hank and then dies, not I love you. So Hank can over here. He'll never know what she was going to say. More tragic. Also, I don't, I don't like the fucking Hank Mystique romance. Just because they're both blue.
00:55:31
Speaker
the blue man Who who does does Mystique romance in the comics? Yes, Sheena. Um, so this is very recent. Do you want to hear some recent stories? Yeah. So back in the day, this is a side tangent, everyone, but this is a fun one. So basically, the original story is that she, you know, as rail that, that demon from first class, she romances him, she has Kurt. Nightcrawler. Oh, God. That's why he's blue.
00:55:59
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That was the original story. Claremont, the writer in the 80s who had a bunch of wild ideas, had a very interesting one, but he was told no by Marvel Comics. The times have changed, and one of the newer writers was like, can I do Claremont's old idea? And they said yes. So Mystique can change her body. Right? um Including male parts. So what she did is she copied Ezreal's DNA
00:56:27
Speaker
But she can't have his powers, but she has his DNA. She impregnated some other... I forget her name, but she's a different mutant. she The other lady carried Kurt, but while that was happening, Mystique slept with Azrael to throw him off the trail. Because the other mutant can see the future, and she knows that Kurt's necessary for the future.
00:56:51
Speaker
So she had, it's a completely crazy story. It's a completely crazy. I thought it was the devil. You told me it was the devil. yeah Israel's a devil. Oh yes. Yeah. He's a devil. He's, they made him a mutant in the, in the movies, but he's a devil. He is a straight up devil. His name's Israel. But, uh, yeah, no, he's, uh, so, so Mystique romances as Israel, Israel in the comments.
00:57:15
Speaker
No, she roman. No, she sleeps with him to throw him off the trail. I know but but that's thats she was in love with this There's another woman who is a blind psychic. Okay. you Yes, that's who she slept with asriel. So the asriel. Yeah, I understand I understand that but my question was who does mistake romance in the movie in the comics the but theb blind psychic the blind psychic Okay, Jesus Christ. Okay. Well recent before then it was asrael. They recently read Condit. Okay, and I genuinely like the it's so crazy. I kind of like the retcon. It's wild. It's wild, but it makes sense. Yeah. Anyway, sorry, guys, back to the story. So the spietro side mission of the hunting town, the anti-immune terrorist gets creepy and creepier because there's weird writing and he's investigating and he's like, oh, it's a cult. Oh, no.
00:58:10
Speaker
And he finally figures out what it is and he's going to try and warn everyone. Everything goes the same with the real rest of the movie kind of the same, except for the part where it's ah the trains, the, not the train, the fight scene in the street, in the New York street. Scott, you know, Jean's like, uh,
00:58:29
Speaker
Oh, Scott is going with Jean. He's like, please, let me go with you, at least. Define Charles Xavier, but still respecting him. like Let me go with you. She lets him go. Finally, she says, OK, fine, I need you. I'll go. You can come with me. um Everything's the same. Magneto gets the army out. And then right before Jean kills Eric, Scott's like, no, don't do this. Let's just run. So they run again. so So I went back. It was not the New York fight scene.
00:58:56
Speaker
i I messed up. It was the plan. Genosha. Genosha scene, yes. So the in the third act, the fight happens and it messed up a couple of blocks, like a whole couple of blocks. Scott's trying to stop everyone from fighting and everyone gets knocked out by the army. But Jean and Scott don't wake up with the others. A few of those soldiers are in the cult.
00:59:25
Speaker
that what Peter found out is that they've been stalking Gene for years. And because, remember, they're very popular. Everyone knows what the powers are. They want to control Gene for the purposes of terraforming the planet and then mind controlling anyone in their way to a perfect world.
00:59:47
Speaker
And it's gonna be, it's a two-parter, I'm setting up a two-parter, but Jean and Scott, and Peter's on his way to find the rest of the X-Men and then it's them against the cult and then, you know, Jean, they have to stop Jean or calm her down enough while also dealing with a cult who has a bunch of anti-mutant weaponry.
01:00:07
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and who has studied the X-Men enough and they're prepared for this kind of thing. So you get the mutants, but instead of them just hating mutants or humans of hating mutants, they are stopping specifically the X-Men. They have anti-X-Men. Yeah. They have weapons to deal with all the powers. Yes. And traps and whatever. And then, yeah, that's kind of what I got.
01:00:29
Speaker
I like the idea that they had, but I didn't like that they were just like, we're gonna kill all humans. So I'm like, what's worse? Mind control all humans and make them like perfect slaves and perfect willing to do what we want. That's what Apocalypse was trying to do. not i' No, he was trying to get rid of humans. Yeah, but he wanted Cerebro to mind control the entire planet.
01:00:58
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That was one of his things. That's why he wanted Charles's power. Do you know how forgettable that was though? I know, but that's why he wanted Charles's power. Yeah, but this is a creepier, cause it's like, it's, I don't know. I just, you're right. But I honestly, I like it more when humans are doing this shit. It's, it's wilder. Yeah. It's like, Oh, okay. Like it's easy to have a big God of a man, a God of a mutant want to control everyone. But when humans want to do it, it feels closer to home and it's creepier, I guess. That's my thought process.
01:01:28
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I'm a little embarrassed. I forgot about the apocalypse thing. and I'm taking that on you. Why are you stupid? Uh, so... I am. Uh, so... Why are you dumb? Alright, what do you rate this movie? C-minus. Wow, that's ass. Yeah, uh, C-minus. C-minus. It was okay, but aliens. Doo doo ass. Doo doo ass. Doo doo butt. Doo doo butt. Doo doo ass is a Mighty Keef's thing. Oh, sorry.
01:01:57
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uh media space marine 2 is pretty cool anything else nope i've been playing dave the diver oh also dave the diver has delged uh dredged dlc and godzilla dlc and godzilla dlc it's a lot of fun you you dive at at during the day and then you run a sushi restaurant at night nice there's a lot of games like that there's one where you like fight don't you like make weapon are you scavenge dungeons in like the day or something and then you make weapons for people at night. it's It's to, you know, resonate with us millennial zoomer types who have three jobs so that they can cover up. Yeah. And rock please please oh what about you, Ruthie? What about what's your thing? Yeah, dave the diver, dave the diver. I've also started watching Dexter.
01:02:56
Speaker
What? I'm allowed to like things sometimes. i know but like He has a cool laboratory. It was so like Dexter was so big in like high school. And I tried to watch it. I'm like, stupid. Because I read the wiki of some of the stuff that happens later, especially to my favorite character. And I'm like, oh, well, yeah. Also, I also don't like how they
01:03:25
Speaker
He's not portrayed like an actual psychopath. Because he's not. I would know. He's not a real psychopath. He's not. No. He tries to be, though. No. um did did you do We really want to talk spoilers for a show that some people might be interested in. It's so fucking old. it's the They're making a new season. No, they're not. They're making a prequel show. The first season was 2007.
01:03:50
Speaker
Dexter watched his mom get murdered when he was like three and as a trauma response He shut shut down his emotions and he became obsessed with blood. Oh Okay, funny if I'm taking a trauma class right now that it's a bit extreme but like some stuff like that can happen Yeah, and then his dad trained him to be a serial killer because he thought this is the only way I can protect my foster son
01:04:13
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Did you finally understand that one thing, by the way? Yeah, polyvagal theory. Yeah, it makes sense. i makes sense now yeah so yeah I can explain to you afterwards. Yeah, for media and media ah I The video you watched to understand polyvagal theory. figure for glass um oh Also, once again, pal help.
01:04:33
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Always Kyle Hill! Always Kyle Hill! Did you watch the Kyle Hill video? No, not not on the Paul D. Viggo thing, but Kyle Hill, I love him and he goes to a YouTube channel ah for the professor and plays Magic the Gathering. Oh, nice. And the one video I watched... That made it to the episode, by the way, last time, so... What? That made it to the episode last time, so you don't say it.
01:04:55
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What made it the kind of magic the the professor? Yes. Well, either way, I just know that the one video I watched can't do anything and he was but looks so sad i've i've had that with the few times of played Magic same thing happened to me dude. Kids can be cruel. Yeah, it's fine. Don't worry. I Yeah, anyway, hon. Sorry. I interrupted you me too fine. I've interrupted you guys. It's fine ah the penguin all first episode it' It's fun. it's very i know Ruthie and I are Big Matt Reeves Batman fans, so like I get it. Take us with a grain of salt. I'm a Big Matt Reeves Batman fan. Well, you haven't seen the episodes of The Penguin. I own the fucking movie, though. Me too, but you didn't see The Penguin episodes. That's what I'm saying. What I'm trying to say is, so we might be a little biased, but so far, pretty good. Very good for this episode. It's on Max, right? Yes. Every Friday it's on Max. I can watch it. I'll wait for more episodes to be out because I don't want to do that to myself.
01:05:50
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I will wait until it's all out and then just binge it off. Is there something else? Oh, ah I've been watching. Can I do like two shorter ones? I've been replaying Dark Souls 3 whenever I'm stressed because I never beat the final boss and I didn't like the build, so I had to restart. I'm like halfway through and I'm only like nine hours in, which is kind of nice. I mean, those games are really easy after Elden Ring. They're not really easy, but they're pretty easy after Elden Ring's DLC. Your brain's just like, wait, they pause? I can actually read? Like read easier? Yeah, they need I like how they nerfed Ron for like a second time, basically, because like they nerfed him when the game first released. And then they nerfed him again. And now he's now people are like mad because he's like, actually, you know, like,
01:06:38
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He's on par with the rest of the DLC bosses, which is not how it's supposed to be. He's supposed to be ah fucking horrendously infuriating to fight. I soloed him and it just, yeah, I couldn't. i they finem as at the game I'm just trying to show off to my, to like the fans we have. I don't know how I'm going to, if I ever do play Dark Souls one, two and three, I don't know how I'm going to beat the games.
01:07:01
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They're pretty easy. They're pretty easy. They're pretty easy. You say you're ass, but you beat stuff in Hollow Knight. I wasn't able to do, so. Yeah, Hollow Knight's a different game. It's very similar. Just 2D. And the other thing I've been watching is Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations. I got into it like a month or two back. But like, I don't know. I really got into it the last month. And it's it's been pretty good. No reservation. Yeah, it's a really good show. Yeah. Kind of missed the man. Complicated man. but and come Okay, man, it's kind of like about him didn't didn't pertain in Obama like Yes, I know. Yes. I think it's the noise the name of the town our city I saw that episode recently actually it was pretty good. It makes me want to go to Vietnam. I miss Obama <unk> I see I see I keep seeing like clips of him Like either as president or after and I'm like man Why can't we have this back?
01:08:01
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I would vote for Obama for a third term. Thank you, Get Out Dad. Very cool. Oh god. You're even in the Nike gear, too. Oh god. Fucking shit. Fuck. I am wearing Olmec. I mean, you're saying it for a different reason than most people said it back then. Oh my fucking god. So you're fine. Oh god.
01:08:23
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You just returned to simpler times, but Jesus Christ, I didn't mean to own you like that. I am so sorry. No, I'm not. but um Yeah. You know, you just made me sound kind of racist. We can take that out. <unk>s And by we, we mean you you you you. You have all the power. You didn't mean it like that. You meant it in the sense of like, you want simpler times. it sincerely. You want simpler times.
01:08:52
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Oh, fucking hell, man. Fucking liberal. ah So.
01:08:58
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Yeah. Hun, I think you're next. ah No, actually, what I want to do is I want to bring up something to you guys. okay October's coming up. All right. Spooky movie. Spooky movie time. So what I'm thinking, we're not going to be wanting to do one every week, but I want to see how many we can do. Could we do a series?
01:09:20
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I was thinking the same thing. the same Like one series of movies? No, like instead of a movie, we'd do a series. Yes, I was thinking. Just for like one episode, we'd do a series. We've we've talked about doing many series in the past. what what Which one do you have in mind? I was thinking paranormal activity. Just make a paranormal activity. I can't. i can't do those i was I can't do those. I was thinking like why matter kind of shit.
01:09:44
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oh Like an actual series. A miniseries? yeah okay Yeah. I can do that. I can't do paranormal activity, jump scares, galore. And I don't like the possession shit. so like And the reason I mention Bly Manor is because Bly Manor is my least favorite of... Mike Flanagan's? Of Mike Flanagan's. I haven't seen Midnight Club or Fall the House of Usher, but... Bly Manor would be a good one.
01:10:12
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I like the short story of the helpful of the house of action. I know I want to watch it. How long is my manner? How many of those? Eight? An hour each. Spooky season is coming up. Spooky season. That was really lame. Spookers. If Ed amplifies, I'm gonna be mad at him. Oh no, Ed.
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable
01:10:32
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Definitely don't do that. Don't do it, Ed. Oh no. Oh no.
01:10:38
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I keep thinking of the JoJo part three. Oh my god. Yeah. Oh my god.
01:10:47
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but You haven't seen JoJo you guys. What are you doing with your life? So much fun. So much fun. I'm still on Unbreakable Diamond, I think. Diamond is unbreakable. Diamond is unbreakable. That's my favorite JoJo. I know. All right. So we're doing and Haunting of Bly Manor. Psych, we're doing that the descent instead.
01:11:08
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Thank you everyone everyone for listening. You can find, ah we have
Social Media and Community Engagement
01:11:11
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ah socials and a Discord that'll be in the description. You probably already saw it by the time you were looking at the, and listening to this. Yeah. and But if you're one of those people who doesn't listen to descriptions, or read descriptions like me, I'm your man, you know, I feel ya.
Light-hearted Closing Remarks
01:11:26
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And ah yeah, thanks for listening everyone. up but i Have a great day. Or night. We don't discriminate. Or anything. Or dawn. Which would be tween day and night. Twilight.
01:11:39
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ah Oh god. Twilight the movie. We're playing for a different reason. Not yet. Not yet? Not yet. Alright. Bye! Bye!
Next Feature Preview: The Descent
01:11:51
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Whoa. It's me again in the editing room. Hi. Uh-huh. Anyways, today's movie was X-Men Dark Phoenix. Written and directed by Simon Kinberg. Cinematography by Mauro Fiore. Sing-a-hooded Maram Webb.
01:12:11
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ah But yeah, join us next time for The Descent. We we tried to do Bly Manor, but its it's way too long. Anyways, goodbye.