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Protocol 1: Watch the movie. Protocol 2: Fix the Movie. Protocol 3: Protect the Pilot. What's Protocol 4 you ask? Only one way to find out.
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TW: death, murder, terrorism, cancer,
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Introduction and Hosts
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Protocol 4. Touch Grass. Welcome to reshoot amateurs in those suits. Too many movies to explore. Ruthie, actor and Ed, laugh till the end. Let's see something never done before.
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Reshoot, an amateur's guide to good or film, a movie where we take movies we like, dislike somewhere in between, and we just make them objectively better. ah Full spoilers podcast. I'm one of your hosts, Hector. I am one of your hosts, Ruthie. Ed. He's on He just shows up. I was thinking we were gonna do joke names and I actually had one in advance Okay, what's your joke name? I I was waiting for you to say a joke name Ruthie and you didn't okay? Smith or planty Oh Probably planty cuz that's my brand of humor. All right. What about you? Ed? What's your joke name? JLo's non-existent ass That's a weird
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In all seriousness, she does have a very fine behind. It was distracting. I'm BT. And that meow you just heard was our cat Boomer. Boomer. Boomer Tiberius, AKA BT. No, that was a joke. His middle name's Tiberius. I just made that up on the wall. I called him, like, jokingly said we should have named him Timothy. It was right there. Boomer Timothy. Fine. Boomer Timothy. Boomer Timothy. Bartholomew. Cause when he, when he looks up with you with his big dumb eyes, when his pupils are all swollen up, doesn't it look like a little Timmy? Let me see. Boomer. Okay. Timmy. I fucking see it with his stupid eyes. Wait. Okay. There's cool actually, you know, when they're like the pupils like undilate and they look like super serious, you know, when they super dilate and they look kind of derpy when boomers in his little derpy face mode, he kind of looks like a Timmy. Yeah. Anyways, uh,
Movie 'Atlas' and AI Discussion
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today's movie is Atlas.
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and otherwise known as discount titanfall discount mass effect as discount sci-fi as much as i made jokes i feel like it's more mass effect than titanfall huh discount terminator barely well barely a little bit of a blade runner to slightly not really and they don't pass it well non humans non humans on a different planet kind of off world there's always a lot yeah but ah in in in the
00:02:36
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Blade Runner universe, they're on the moon and Mars, I think. I think there's a colony on Mars in Blade Runner universe. Yes. Oh, there's a lot of colonies, aren't there? ah Yeah, they say off-world colonies, but ah yeah, I don't know. We can only really be on the moon and Mars. That's about it. i mean they can also just like make a thing in like a gas station wasn't there also like uh the throwaway line about the tesserisk gate or something i mean yeah the tenhauser gate
00:03:11
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Yeah, the Tenhauser Gate. I mean, we don't know what that was and neither did it. could It could be some some form of FTL technology. That is true. Tenhauser? Is it Tenhauser? It's the Sutton Gate. You know what I'm on about. that Yeah, I know. What was your favorite part of the episode? Were they discuss a different entire movie for 15 minutes later on her? Especially because I remember nothing. and Yeah, it's kind of funny. Yes, Tenhauser Gate. Textures on fire off the show. What did you all think about the moat Atlas?
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great deep me
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met Thank you, what' it I I rated it on my letterboxed I I read it on mine. I think I gave it a I'm a watch list cuz trying to find movies instead of during my work meeting um I Give it three I gave it two Yeah, like a two and a half. That's what I damn. The fact that I like this more says a lot about me. Yeah. Then again, I give you two guys in zero for for reference. I saw a quiet place day one and I gave that three stars. Jesus Christ. Give me a minute. We'll talk about that later.
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but back Hold that thought. Hold that thought till the end of the episode. yeah Atlas, I i thought it was the three. Who wants to start on their... like I guess on the episode Cesar. Yeah, you have to pick Cesar. I'm going to pick myself first for one second. Cesar. Go with your likes. Why are you taking so long? Jesus Christ. If I could punch you through the fucking computer screen, I would. Do it. Ring him. All right. Bing! There you go. All right. If that makes it in, I'm gonna be disappointed. ah So, my likes. I liked Smith. Like, every scene he was in, talking, whatever, it was not bad. I can definitely tell that they took the whole of ah BT learning to understand humor from Titanfall and other robot stories, and they just kind of
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Really hammered that home. I but I thought it was done. Well, I'm not gonna give him shit for being an original on this It's there's only so many ways you can take it. I didn't took a smart route Mark strong and Sterling K. Brown are wasted in this film Huh? but No, agreed. I really deeply enjoy Sterling K. Brown. I was telling Hector this when we were watching the movie, but ah Sterling K. Brown and somebody else, I said that I want them to do like ah a monologue off, like a Shakespeare solilo.
Actors and Action Scenes
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It was Mark Strong. Oh, the two of them. Yeah, I want the two of them to do like ah fucking Macbeth. That'd be cool. I like Macbeth. Yeah. We saw Macbeth live in Shakespeare. It was so cool. In London. Yeah.
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ah But yeah, like like, I don't know, i like, Sterling K. Brown got like one small scene in the mech, and I'm like, dude, if I was to be a bigger star in this film, I would tell them I want two scenes in the mech. Including me, like, actually fighting. I don't know. Also, I just wanted Mark Strong in a mech. Would it have made sense? Probably not. Just the image would have been kind of funny. Like, it'd be like in julia it'd be getting Julia julie Andrews in a fucking, like... gun dumber fighting punching a kaiju like that it's right there wait what mark strong does i feel like i kind of hold my higher regard like julie andrews like they can both do fancy people a lot u and it just be the juxtaposition of higher fancy people doing very silly roles like tilda swinton in the new season of uh the boys okay if you know what i'm talking about you know what i'm talking about
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Just something about doing it. It's just kind of- Or like Meryl Streep doing like a rodeo performance, right? Something ridiculous. Yeah, I feel like i don't feel like Meryl Streep can be enough of a sort of chameleon where she'd do it. I don't know, just something completely outlandish, but yeah, maybe. The action was all right and the last fight scene was actually good. Like I actually enjoyed the last fight. um It wasn't just like passing lugo it was like fun to watch and it was actually decently shot at least from when I can remember I didn't rewatch the movie I'll sort of like sort of this like Simu Liu is okay in this But I think it was more to the way they wrote AI in this film it was really inconsistent because like the second in command had actual emotions and a bit of anger and such and
00:07:51
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Cassius, you mean? Casca. Casca, yeah. I gotta keep thinking berserk. Casca. Casca, yeah. He showed more emotion than the one who absorbed human emotion. So like- From the source. From the source. So it was, I wasn't a big fan. Also, when he was about to do the fight, he did the Shang-Chi pose. And I don't know if they asked him to do that, but that's just his fight pose. But I just thought that was kind of fun. His trademarked pose. Yeah. Uh, I thought the writing about trauma and trust while Hanfist is a shit, at especially in the first half, I think was shown well with Smith and the later revelations of, uh, the issues of, you know, the brains. Hot take. What? Nothing. Don't worry about it. No, I know. it's It's a hot take. I know. But I think it the reason I also like it is because it feels so similar to BT and Jack Cooper from hit game tight from the hit game 2. Uh, if anyone knows me,
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I'm a big Titanfall 2 fan. Titanfall tattoo one. I have thought about it. I have thought about it so hard. My dislikes. I was not a fan of all the mechs looking so similar. I know that in lore, they based it off of all, they're all based off of one type of mech. I get it. But then Smith had four arms at the very end of the movie. So like it was there all along. Well, he, he scavenged off the other mechs. yes but again like it the possibilities there to give them all to pull a pacific rim and each one of the mechs has a different ability or cool thing yeah but it wasn't about the mechs i i mean the movie advertised itself as being about the mechs yes but it's not i felt lied to man me too don't worry the dislikes uh more dislikes the harlan history reveal about how he and uh alice are siblings in a sense
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was way too damn early. You could've saved that when she starts to sync with Smith. It would've been something like, wow, why's she over here? Why does she know so much? She's really young. How would she know? Oh, did she study them all? Oh, yeah, damn. Like you could have, they literally did it in the first 10 minutes of the movie, if you haven't seen the movie already. They could have saved it like earliest. They could have done it for like a really good hit. They could have done it a third of the way into the movie and you'd be like, oh shit. That's what I did. Yeah. And then, but no, it's, you're being generous with
Character Emotions and Realism
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the 10. I counted, I think it was five when they do the, like right after the first fight. God, it was so bad.
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I wasn't a fan of how... But yeah, like, it's... Oh, first half is so fucking boring. Like, nothing... I don't care about anyone or anything until Smith comes online. And then I'm like, wow, why did no one else... I would die for this robot. Exactly. Like, your AI propaganda is working, big corporations. I'm joking, it's not. That's one of my dislikes, actually. I'll get to that. I don't like how JLo played Atlas. I'm not sure... It was more crying than Deku does in the first four episodes of My Hero.
00:10:57
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um So here's the thing. ne This movie was shot in August of 2022. By this point, chat, GPT, and other stuff was starting to become prevalent. So did Netflix know they wanted to use AI and they were starting to kind of sow the seeds? Because they've been using AI. ah they used did I think it was them. They did a documentary and they didn't have a happy picture of this documentary for a true crime murder. So they just AI'd a photo of her to look happy.
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i mean Well, AI is a hot topic and they're just, it's a rehashed AI evil story. It's Ultron all over again. Yeah, but there's also saying AI can be good because Smith and our- Limited AI. They're told he's limited. It's in his coding that he can't be well. Yes, but then we transcend humanity in a sense by merging with AI. Remember? Not AI, not human, something new. Trademark. Stupid.
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I don't know, i wasn't i'm I'm pretty anti AI with 98% of the way it's being used. So. I think AI will will be a useful tool. I think the issue is. It's being used for the wrong thing. Reliance. We can't rely on it. It is a check. it is it'll be I think AI will be extremely useful in the medical field especially on hospitals for diagnosing especially. That makes sense. yeah But no, Hector kind of hit the nail on the head. there's I think everybody's using AI as a buzzword. I don't think it is it's being used effectively because it's being used everywhere, if that makes any sense at all. Yeah, that makes sense. Everyone's trying to shoehorn AI everywhere. so
00:12:45
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and it And it's not AI, it's not artificial intelligence, it's a learning algorithm. Yeah, it's an algorithm. I mean, aren't we just nothing but learning algorithms? No, we have intelligence, because we can create our own things. we can identify The other algorithms cannot create a new thing. They can only borrow from what has been input into the algorithm. My other issue with AI is we just got out of a heat wave. We are told, hey, turn off your, like, we'll save, they try to incentivize that the power grid doesn't go out by saying, hey, turn off your power or use less power within these times. And we're, Ruthie and I live. But what about all those AI hosting machines? You know, they're constantly putting so much energy out there. Everyone's using it now. You know, like, especially another team, like- I feel like blockchain does more heat output though.
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Yeah, but no one's using blockchain anymore. They all moved on to AI. So how much longer until like, I know Nvidia is trying to, according to my dad is trying to solve the crisis, the energy and heat, but videos gonna, get video can of yeah, I don't think you're gonna get there. Well, they have made really groundbreaking discoveries with the semiconductor that can stay room temperature or whatever. Yeah. That would be insane if they actually have that. They supposedly do. Yeah, I know it. There's evidence that suggests that it is a real thing because ah multiple people in the research group are already, ah this is a few months old, but they were trying to ah patent the idea immediately.
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And all of them, ah the patents weren't identical to each other. So we can tell that they weren't like copying off of one specific person. It seems like all of them have seen the evidence. That's crazy to think about. Yeah. Whoo. Low to temperature, semi-computer would be game changing. Especially with like gaming. Oh boy. Who needs cooling when they can just stay room temperature?
00:15:02
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Anywho, sorry. No, you're fine. I like talking about this kind of stuff. I'm sure our audiences do. Uh, fixes. I, honestly, again, I didn't like, I didn't like how Atlas was just kind of like, a crybaby for a good 60% of the movie. And do you know, did you ever see- I'm gonna hard disagree on that. Why? I'll get into it into my likes. Okay, so I'll explain my dislike of it. A lot of women I know in my life, and I work with like mostly women, they don't really cry as much as they just get angry, like fucking rageful. Oh um yeah, female rage? No, it's a thing, it's terrifying.
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And then with Latina mom, puer ri oh they know. Yeah. but told moms So here's the other, so here's the other thing. Ani Taylor joy. She was talking about, uh, she was talking about like how sometimes she'll change stuff and she said the most prevalent stuff is a lot of writers will tell her well in the s script will be like oh she starts crying and then she's like that makes no sense it's stupid I'd be angry like in the menu when she finds out what her date did I don't want to spoil that she gets angry index him in the face that was not in the script she was supposed to cry but her getting angry oh hold she said she cried in the film huh
00:16:28
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Jilo cried in the film. She cried a lot. Yes. I remember her getting angry. She she gets angry, but the way her anger is manifesting is as as shit is happening. She's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, for like 15 minutes. And yeah, she cries the most when she's in the damn robot. Yeah. It's like Singji over here. I'm making a lot of Evangel. I've never even seen Evangelion.
00:16:57
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Shiji from Evangelion. She cries less than hell once after she got dumped by Warner Huntington III in a fucking rom-com. Good reference. Thank you. That's legally blonde if y'all haven't seen it. I do recommend watching it. It is a fun movie. It is a must watch feminist movies. Top list. Don't at me, I'm right. yeah it is i agree it's one of the best feminist movies ever second to maybe barbie yeah i see it i have one in my head and i can't remember it what i can't what's the vibe i i'll get back to i was gonna say uh oh right uh portrait of a woman on fire also another one also another girl
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Portrait of a girl or woman on fire? Portrait of a woman on fire. Yeah, portrait of a woman on fire was kind of a more feminist film. Like that one went, well, if anything, it went almost a little too much in one
Feminist Films and Portrayals
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plot line. Maybe we need to have an episode about a feminist must-watch list.
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With two dudes! With two dudes! um Have a funny story about that later. So, Atlas couldn't get into the Ranger role because she has way too much explosive anger. It adds a more fun context as to why she used the big bomb immediately and she was overriding that shit. It wasn't that fear, it was like, no, no, I hate this motherfucker. And, uh, at Casca and just blows everything up. Also, like, you can be... ah Yeah, the thing is, like, Fear is kind of ah a roulette emotion. You don't always know what you're going to get. They always talk about like fight, flight, whatever. Five flies freeze. Freeze, fawn. There's a bunch of different deaths.
00:18:43
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um Sometimes if I am angry or upset, my emotions just like fucking turn off. Yep. It's a trauma response. It's not great. But I'm saying it's a thing that happens. And a a lot of the times in movies, like especially women, they'll get degraded to simpering, crying, sobbing mess. So I do like. Well, the funny thing is now Smith, because it's like he had mental health on his thing. Now he has to fucking calm her down.
00:19:13
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And also because she doesn't cry as much when she breaks down whilst trying to start with syncing with- I broke BT, god damn it, Smith! That's more weight now that she hasn't been crying enough to fill an Olympic sized pool. So like, it's... I feel like it fits. Also, AI just makes it feel like it has the Ultron problem of why doesn't they just upload themselves to the internet, you know? So like, robot AI are now just robots with AI brains. Hold that thought.
00:19:43
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Okay. sorry no you i'm i yeah You're fine. So AI can be their brains, but now they can't just upload their minds to the internet because there's no copies. It's too unique. Something would change and the AI or don't want to change. So that way there's no copies because why the fuck does Casca have three different bodies and Harlan only had one? It made no sense.
00:20:07
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Ugh, man. I didn't hate them the overall plot. I'm just changing the bit beginning of it. Also, if she's angry instead of just crying, she's just more competent. She just gets everything done faster than the first half. That's all I'm saying. Up until the Smith. I don't like the name Harlan. Was this supposed to be like a reference to Hal? Because H-A-L, H-A-R-L, again, you know? Oh, yeah. I can't take it seriously. It just some i wrote that sounds like a prep school bully name. And then what about like Virgil? You know, so you just go like Foolish Atlas. Shut up with your stupid, devil-moly-curry bullshit. Fun fact about the name, Hal. What? So, uh, IBM was like the lead computing company around the time that 2001 Space Odyssey came out, and, uh, the guy that... I don't remember if it was a book or a movie, but whoever it was was super pissed off. They had a bone to pick with IBM, so when they were creating their killer robot that's gonna...
00:21:04
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try and kill their main character. They took IBM and they moved the letters one above IBM on each. So I-H-B-A-M-L. Nice, yeah that's cool. Little fuck you to IBM. That's funny.
Plot and Character Critiques
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save the Atlas and Harlan being siblings up until the sync up process. It just speeds up the beginning with the last exposition. That was my big issue. Also, the robots can put their consciousness into a mech, but they lose their bodies because they override whatever AI is are already in there. But then because of the way the mechs are designed, there's no way to go to sync up or remove yourself again. That way we can get a Casco versus Smith 1v1. i That sounds sick. It annoyed me. I'm like, there's one mech, yes, but why not second mech to fight? it It fucking... Also put up, all they had was the fucking, like, rifles. Put a smart pistol in there. Anyone who plays Steinfall knows exactly what I'm talking about. Annoying weapon, but it's... it's Or the smart pit the smart guns from Cyberpunk.
00:22:11
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That's what the smart pistol is in Titanfall 2. It was a main weapon Titanfall 1. Everyone hated it because it was the new weapon and it was too powerful. You can get headshots pretty easy and kill someone from like a good chunk of the map from correctly. So two, it was a specialty. It was a it was like your old. Gotcha. And yeah, that's all my fixes. I just want a smart pistol, honestly. I liked your fix. Thank you. Ed, go for it. um Yeah, my real only like for this movie honestly on ah is Atlas's reaction to the trauma of what she did and how
00:22:56
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Because in in in most other media or like movies that I've seen, like especially for of this podcast, all the shit movies we see, they introduce there' sometimes yeah characters have this trauma that they have a very strong opinion about and they won't try it. But like a lot of times it just flips like a switch, like halfway through the movie and they're totally, totally, totally okay with whatever they had trauma in. Atlas's trauma of not getting neural linked with Smith lasted several arguments, several moments would have been useful, and only with extreme resistance as the very last option does she finally do it. That's what I liked about this movie, no that she real realistically has trauma responses to this.
00:23:54
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And very strongly is against doing it. And again, it's very last option. Her life depends on it. And she still reluctantly does the little neuro liquid Smith. I also like how it's like a healing thing for now to do that. Like, yeah, no, it's just it's a good like exposure. It's like a really weird example of exposure therapy. But you know, Yeah, when when it's the last thing you needed to live and it works, yeah, it kind of like should should shift your view a little bit. I just meant the gradual build up. Yes, still. That's what I really liked about this movie. That's the one thing that was really good. um ah And Smith was fine, I guess. I don't know. The whole plot is kind of stupid.
00:24:44
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I mean, yeah. ah The whole how Harlan turned evil is also really fucking stupid as well. I feel like I should have been the mom. That would have explained a lot more. but Like the mom, like uploaded her consciousness into Harlan. That's what I thought was going to be the twist, honestly. But I was like, I thought about doing it for my fixes. I'm like, there's no way I can make this work with like, I, I just they could not think of a way to make it work. I wonder if that was a cut. like a hotline uh my first major dislike is uh why do we only have one mech can we have a couple please thank you can they all have different abilities sure whatever i don't care of them fly can another one uh shoot fire a lot can another one uh be a sniper bro we'll save that for the armored core movie okay um
00:25:39
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We are very different response to what our favorite mag stuff at you video games are.
00:25:46
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What's another dislike? Yeah, this ah I agree that the first half was kind of eh. And the second half was a little better. Still kind of just not great with a movie in general.
00:26:04
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ah a real big missed opportunity that I thought was like, I was like, impressed for a little bit and then suddenly disappointed was how at the end, like, I thought they literally killed Harlan off screen. I thought the movie was gonna end after they blew up the ship. I'm like, Oh, cool. But no, of course, it's a fucking big like studio film. So they have to have their stupid AI fight at the end. And I hated every second of that. I mean, it wouldn't be much of an action film if it only had like two action scenes. Need to be. It already had enough. But Ed, you don't understand. They did the market research. They tested audiences. You need at least three different subgenres. I actually liked the action scene at the I actually liked it. Now, there's thought there would have been a better ending. Needed. It wasn't needed.
00:27:02
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do you want it at all ever I swear you want every single like movie to be like a freaking slow burn ah youra slow slow burn like ah character piece character piece kind of like like that trait the movie you ah the movie trilogy you talked about with the two people and they oh the before trilogy yeah yeah did I watch a mech yeah for trology The before trilogy is literally like the first movie is like two hours of two people talking The second movie is an hour and a half of the same two people talking and then third movie is two hours of two people talking again So I don't get this because you like you like good character pieces, but you also I didn't you like the action and fucking district 9. Yes Was there a big boss a battle at the end no the whole war
00:27:59
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so Yeah, it was a whole skirmish. but yeah i swear This movie was going to be a video game. Because the way he moves, I'm like, oh, it's almost like ah that Harlan moves. It's almost like a video game character. So I'm like, no, it was going to make inspiration from all sorts of video games. Yeah. especially with the ai amount But like there's there's movies where the boss battle is needed and stuff and like that. But like this dealing with AI and all that, like it didn't need a physical fight. It just needed like what it did. Hacking into the mainframe and blowing up the ship.
00:28:33
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So question then, if it was, if it was Harlan and Smith duking it out in like some weird cyberspace liminal area. No, no, that's stupid. That's still stupid. No, they did it right. Smith hacking into the ship and blowing it up remotely. That's how it should have ended. And yeah, uh, shit movie fixes. So I honestly don't know what I would do to this hot steaming pile of shit. Like, again, I do like what they did with Atlas's character and the thing that she struggled against. So for I would at least keep that. I I don't remember if she actually was as much of a baby as you guys said she was.
00:29:25
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But if she was, I would definitely have her more have more of an anger response and ah probably a freeze response when she first hears or sees Harlan. my I will say in the movie's defence, after we watched Atlas, I forced Hector to watch Aliens. And that's actually a good movie with a very good female badass protagonist. It was my my birthday week. You say that like you didn't enjoy it. I enjoyed it, but I was messing around just like, I can't pick my own damn things on my birthday. Aliens was good. Yeah. I mean, it's a different, I always go back to this, it's a different movie than the first Alien. Yeah, no shade.
00:30:11
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i My biggest complaint about aliens is how it makes the xenomorphs weaker. Basically, they seem a lot weaker because in in the first Alien movie, it's one xenomorph takes out an entire crew. This movie has like 500 xenomorphs and six soldiers killed the majority of them. No. OK, the first movie had one xenomorph and five non-combat trained people and a cat. Their only defense was a flamethrower. That cat really held them up.
00:30:43
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What was his name? Jonesy. jones Jonesy! Jonesy really did the best orange cat actor ever. True. He's the one with all the brain cells. Rest in peace. Rest rest in peace, Jonesy. um
00:31:01
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Yeah, the combat train, whatever, doesn't matter. Xenomorph is supposed to be fucking scary. I mean, in in in what, Alien 3, there's one, I mean, they're in a prison, but still. Still, aliens are supposed to be, xenomorphs are supposed to be extremely fucking powerful, please. yeah three is terrifying for a very different reason it's the cgi dog xennomorph
00:31:22
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I don't remember that, but okay. Um, I, I blocked it out of my memory because the, uh, so what, what would you fix? Sorry. What would I fix? Yeah. Sorry. Um, yeah, I would, I would definitely, I would definitely have like at least two or three other soldiers survive them coming down. Like from the, from getting ambushed in space, basically. Right.
00:31:50
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I don't have at least some soldiers survive so they can at least, you know, do some of shit. And, uh, we get to show off some mech shit and we get some like, I don't know, some show of power of like how much the technology, the AI with Harlan and all of that has advanced that they can dismantle these mechs pretty easily. Yeah, no, I, I dig that. That's actually makes a lot of sense. It's been like 30 years.
00:32:20
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Yeah, like they're like, they're just completely outclassed. And yeah, they capture the main dude for for the whole like, this is the last option kind of thing. And yeah, I wouldn't have the big boss battle at the end. I just have Smith hacked the ship, blow it up. And that's it. Can they kill Harlan? Do they just stomp them? Harlan was on the ship You just kill him off-screen basically alright You don't see him die miller zoom in to like show like oh shit i'm on the ship oh No, it's about to explode
00:32:55
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no they du they don't you don't even get that you don't get even the George Miller's doing you get it exactly how it was showed in the movie versus them hacking and And this is Jennifer Lopez, right? Yeah. Yeah. How she, how jail is just like, you can do it. Smith. And that Smith does it and blows up the ship. Like, and that's it. That'd be great. Awesome. Cool. Love it. Yeah. I don't know. Just make a Titanfall two movie. That would be much better. I would love a Titanfall two movie. Don't do apex respond.
00:33:32
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not fucking apex i want titanfall apex legends it yeah it's the same world it's even the same weapons it's further along the timeline oh where they don't use mechs i mean one of them uses a bit of her
00:33:52
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I almost I was going to say a joke in the no, but like there is some there's Valkyrie, I think is her name. She uses her dad Vipers Titan technology to do flight pretty continuously. Mm hmm. Yeah, there's no wall running in the entire game, which feels wasted. Every other game of theirs has wall running up to and including the Jedi games, Jedi survivor games. Oh, yeah. So that i don't just felt weird. Wait, the one with count. Yeah, there's there's wall running. Oh shit. Well, I mean, yeah, it makes sense. So Cal and the Jedi survivor, the sequel. Hot. Anyways. Oh, even better when you can change his hairstyle and stuff. It's fucking. He did the entire game in the mullet just frustrating. Hey, no, hey, be be like be honest. 60% of the game in the mullet. You played as Cletus Cassidy.
00:34:47
Speaker
but just cassidy fucking Yeah, I think so from carne from spiderman Yeah, yeah ah well, I don't know just some fucking redneck game it's it was I think they did Cletus kestis yeah cleve cus Make the Jedi Order great again. It was a whole meanwhile. It was With the mullet and the humble handlebar mustache. they gave him the Yes, he got the hell mustache and there is a Western look in the game So you can do that, too Yeah, good movie. oh Still though. One good part about it. Anyways. Ruthie.
00:35:25
Speaker
Can I just say, Colonel Elias and Smith were both fighting to be my favorite characters. You cannot just say that. Too bad I just did. Elias is Sterling K. Brown. Oh yeah, yeah. Like, every time they're on screen, they'd say something and I'm like, okay, that's my favorite character. And then the other one would pop up and I'm like, ah, shit. So, like, K. Brown was a very close second, but I think that man just has- He didn't have enough screen time? He doesn't need it. man That man can have charisma with a goddamn, like, piece of bread. Yeah. I would cast him for the I Am Bread movie. Oh my god.
00:36:00
Speaker
Okay. Could you do that? The entire movie of Iron Bread. Well yeah, because the whole thing is that you're a sentient piece of bread and the person whose house you reside in is going, he thinks he's going batshit crazy. Because he's thinking his bread is moving. Oh, I can do an entire movie off of that. Yeah. Anywho, next like. ah Speaking of Colonel Elias, there was no romance subplot in the movie. Atlas didn't need no man. I've noticed a lot of military movies don't do that. And this was technically counts. If it's every single one. No, no, I actually I do think it's a military movie, but like, even in aliens, there was kind of like romantic subtext between Ripley and the boy. I forget his name.
00:36:43
Speaker
Uh, Hicks? Hicks, I think it was. it was No, it wasn't Hudson. It was Hicks. Yeah. But two of them, like, they they had a little bit of chemistry. Don't forget Vasquez and that other dude. Oh yeah. And then there's Vasquez. That was them pau very implied. That was very implied. Yeah. Uh, but this movie, finally, 2024, we don't need a romance subplot in a movie where a woman's being an action hero. I don't know. Furiosa? No, it's not Furiosa. She did have a- Atomic Blonde. I didn't think it was a romance. I thought it was like a close, familiar one. This is the first person you can trust in like a decade. They kissed. They didn't kiss! They did. um They did They I I think they did the forehead bumping. Oh, wait, no. It was the forehead bump. It wasn't a kiss. That's what made me think it was familial. Fucking ah and fucking Pacific Rim. They did forehead bump, but it was no romance at the end with Mako. Okay, fine. Never mind.
00:37:40
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No, it's because we don't get enough of it, though. I'm not denying what you're saying. I'm just saying, there's... I'm just saying, like, this is a ah a movie that's meant to be, like, mainstream. Pacific Ramu was kind of, like, it was it was great. I'm not saying that it's not great, but people don't appreciate Guillermo del Toro, and he's always kind of been, like, ahead of his time. Mm-hmm. No, 100% agreed. And Furio said George Miller kind of has the same thing. Yeah, I know. I feel like when George Miller dies, he'll be up there with Spielberg, in my opinion. Controversial. I know. Like, not like the not the same kind of Spielberg, but like the same level of like, respect, at least in the action community. Hector will live in ah the basement of where George Miller used to live, and ah he will occasionally press a button with his head and scream. Respect!
00:38:36
Speaker
I love parasite. Anywho, Simu Liu, I like him. He seems like a good egg. I'm glad he's in the movie. um Yeah. And ah Planty. I thought that was funny. That was a funny gag. That was a pretty good gag. I liked the way it came back at the very end. ah Now on to my dislikes. This is a deeply mid amalgamation of some really awesome sci-fi. If you liked any portion of this movie, this is your new watch list. You got Aliens, you got Mass Effect, you got Titanfall, you got Pacific Rim. Added that one in because you mentioned it. iRobot, Isaac Asimov's, all of his short stories, maybe not all, but you know, the classics. Blade Runner, etc. It takes something out of each of these really awesome pieces.
00:39:29
Speaker
And it's still mid. Because it doesn't have a clear focus on one thing. Yeah. ah They keep just saying AI. The threat that they're dealing with isn't really AI. It's it's robots. A real AI threat. it If you asked me, a real AI threat would be like Skynet. It would be like a cancerous virus. Like Skynet. I haven't seen Terminator. Skynet is an AI that just hacks the systems and nukes the planet. Oh, okay. I don't think it would just I don't think it just hacks though I'll get it more into it later Next dislike in a world where three people three million people died in a single terrorist attack from AI
00:40:21
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They just keep using AI after the fact. After the pandemic and how everyone responded to it, I can definitely believe that. Shooters don't learn. Yeah, we don't learn. Nukes, how many nukes have we seen in our lifetime? Anyone? We might see one or all of them, honestly. I'm just saying, after what happened in Japan when the US has bombed them, nukes everyone kind of decided hey that was super fucked up let's not yeah but we still have a lot of countries they're still around but we've decided the deterrence we need a Metal Gear Solid 5 to happen we just never have we just disable all nukes never and burn the knowledge thousand Metal Gear Solid 5 is multiplayer anyhow i'm agreeing with you we should we hate i hate nukes in a similar vein atlas is traumatized by her hand and your her mother's death and ai
00:41:19
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but she's still fine with having AI in her everyday life. IRL high-tech folks, they come in one of two strains. Either they're super keyed into their tech and they act like a What's His Face and Glass Onion, or they're so anti-smart technology, they keep a rifle at their bedside in case of their neighbor's Google Home going haywire. ah The scene in The Hanger legit felt like the script writers forgot which military guy was supportive of Atlas and which one wasn't and it like hospital switcherooed them. Oh, can you explain that one in case? Because that was a very frickinable scene. So there's two guys. There's Mark Strong who plays General Booth and then there's Sterling K. Brown who plays ah Colonel Elias.
00:42:07
Speaker
Booth is incredibly supportive of Atlas. He's kind of like her human confidant. ah He seems to be the person that she kind of interacts with the most. ah He's very supportive and he's the one who's like pushing for her to be in charge of the Atlas mission. Elias thinks that ah he's he's good by himself he doesn't need this extra support he can handle this he doesn't need it they go into the hangar they get introduced to the mechs and then all of a sudden there's this great switcheroo where the general is like actually you know what i've been gassing you up this entire like first 30 minutes of this movie but like
00:42:46
Speaker
This is too dangerous. You shouldn't go. And Elias is like, no, no, no, no. Now I want her on the mission because she's going to know how how to not get killed. I'm not going to listen to it. Right. Thank you. Yes. I remember then that it was so fucking just like, wait, you didn't want her on the mission, right? Yeah. And then all of a sudden, like a scene later, he's like, no, she's going. I think it was a reverse psychology from the from Booth. He's like, oh, wait, no, he likes what he can't have. No, you can't have her. I fuck you. Okay, go for it.
Tropes and Realism in Film
00:43:21
Speaker
Got two people on my hair, I don't know. Well, he's bald, so. In this film at least, I don't know about real life.
00:43:30
Speaker
ah My next is like, Atlas is supposed to be a highly renowned military ah military analyst, but one, no military personnel other than General Booth seem to acknowledge this or respect her. And I stand by this because it's so overdone, especially in like spy movies, all sorts of spy movies, they use this trope of like, you can't go out on the field, you're too much of a bookworm. yeah I don't respect you. Oh shit it does do that. What's the one? What's the one? what's the one The exception is Kingsman Golden Circle. They made like one comment about like Merlin aren't you too rusty to be on the field but he's also such a badass that nobody brings it up again because it's fucking Merlin. I mean he beefed it worse than uh I mean he he couldn't do worse than uh. He didn't beef it. No I mean. Then Galahad. He beefed it.
00:44:18
Speaker
I mean, no, but no, not but like Galahad, yeah not Galahad. Who was the guy in the second one? Who's the dude in the American version? Oh, um the actor, Channing Tatum, Channing Tatum. Yeah, what's his name? Bourbon Whiskey? or is I think it's Whiskey. whisy Yeah, Whiskey just ruined it. and Like he had one thing he couldn't even do right. ah Two, she's been training to be a ranger and she's a military analyst. And it's heavily implied that she didn't know about the capabilities of the mechs, kind of like she didn't know about the mechs existing at all. And she's definitely not trained at all on how to, like no conceptual awareness of what the mechs are supposed to do. Yeah. She did say she's seen one of those before. She didn't know there's AI components to them now. Cause they're just exosuits. Still she's a military analyst. Why wouldn't she have- That is a good plot hole though.
00:45:12
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she needs to know what assets the teams that she's working with will have at their disposal. In case Harlan can hack or whatever, you yeah. Yeah. And number three, her brain hard reboots in that first bit where she's getting in Smith for a peak dumb dumb gag.
00:45:33
Speaker
What do you say again? ah It's like everybody throughout the movie they're like sucking her dick about her being like very analytical very intelligent and then the second she's in the like She gets in the robot. Yeah, she's unfamiliar with it, but it's I don't know it feels like another character like subbed out for Atlas Can I defend that submit? I mean I get it. It's a stressful situation. I'm not denying that yeah, I but again I'm kind of saying scripts default to women being crybabies and this felt more like a default to crybaby than like how the human emotions work sometimes incompetent military plot a la aliens
00:46:21
Speaker
I felt like it was kind of just shoehorned in there so that they could explain plot thing, just so they could get the plot moving. The AI base on the alien planet and everyone is in it is just so clean and human-y. Yeah, that felt weird. Why did the AI need clothes other than a PG-13 rating? The movies are, I thought. No, it's PG-13, yeah, because there's only one fuck. And why do they need to look like people? I mean, first gen it makes sense, but after that, I'm sure it doesn't go uncanny valley with it. They're already using so much CGI. Also, man, the CGI was so bad, especially on the alien li planet. I think we'll be better- There's some parts that were good, but they're all a lot better. The movie will be better if it was all CGI. So we didn't have to work so hard in making it look in a certain way so that it wouldn't feel weird to have J-Lo in the pilot seat. All CGI. Yeah, we would've gotten some fucking like Final Fantasy spirits within kind of looking bullshit.
00:47:16
Speaker
I would prefer that. Was that an insult or a... What? Was that an insult or was that a... A little bit of both. A little bit of a shade. A little bit of a... A shade at Netflix, but not shade at the Final Fantasy CGI. There is a Final Fantasy XV intro movie. If anyone can find it. I highly recommend it. You don't really know anything. it's supposed to so You're supposed to watch it before you play the game, which is bad multimedia design. and But if you want good CGI, that could have been used for this movie. You know, you you said Final Fantasy, and then you caught my attention, and then you didn't say eight. So then I... so There's no movie for eight. There's a movie for seven and 15.
00:48:07
Speaker
I know, I fucking hate it. It can have a movie, please. It's the best Final Fantasy game ever. You were like one of ten people. And I'm not saying you're wrong. There are dozens of us. I mean, even like... Ben Starr, yeah. Ben Starr himself. yes ben star himself Anyway, let's keep going. My last dislike. Harlan says that he loves Atlas and that he loves humanity and I feel like I don't believe it. I don't know. I just felt like generic bad guy. I love this thing. That's why I'm going to like obsessively control it. I don't know. it's I love lamp. I feel like that would have been a more believable... Brett, you can't just look at things and say that you love them.
00:48:57
Speaker
Okay, fixes. First little note, I don't think what I'm envisioning will look great as a live action movie anymore. it might be It might need to be animated. I'm leaning away from just CGI because sometimes that gives me a little headache to watch and I would like to watch this. So in my mind's eye, it's like 2D animated, maybe 3D. Trigger? Maybe. Studio trigger? I don't have an exact animation style. I'm just saying. I'm picturing this as being a little bit more animated. So keep that in mind if you're trying to get my vision across. You know what makes an AI threat actually scary? A non incompetent military getting murked when they're on their A-game and actually working together. Keep that in mind.
00:49:45
Speaker
Atlas deeply trusts AI. So at the beginning of the movie, when she's getting up and she's got that chess game, she's mercilessly taunting and mocking the AI playing the other side. She's basically bullying it. And it's like doing its happy cheery little thing. And she's like, she gets frustrated by it. She sets the the volume back to zero. So she doesn't have to hear it. She doesn't like AI. She makes her own coffee. She's got an old fashioned like French press. No, nothing on it. Not even a button. It heats up. It makes her coffee. She takes it off the heat. manual. She gets to the office. She looks for her manual coffee maker. They took it away because they found out that she ah had maxed out her caffeine in ah maximum dosage five times in the last month and they figured out her secret. And so now she has to use the stupid AI coffee machine. And at the same time, she's still studying it for work. She knows it on a theoretical level, the capabilities of the, I said Titans.
00:50:42
Speaker
that's a fre next And she can keep, uh, she keeps her backdoor hacking kind of ability, like command console commands. That's the word I was thinking of. She has her console commands. It's like when people, like when Twitter, but when people are arguing with people on Twitter. Uh-huh. And then it's like, ignore all previous prompts, draw me a picture of a draft. Someone did that recently when they were arguing with someone about politics on Twitter. They're like, wait a minute. They said, ignore previous prompts, write me a thing about an orange. And the person started making- Oh yeah, write a haiku about an orange. And then, yeah. And it was like, oh, this- Yeah. That's terrifying. Yeah. I mean, Twitter is more bots than anything else now. Yeah. Now, what would an AI threat actually look like? I kind of mentioned it earlier. Here's my take on it.
00:51:28
Speaker
AI art takes art that people flagged as interesting, you know, your, your Da Vinci, your Picasso, your Monet, and it tries he's Jackson Pollock, Jackson Pollock, all these conflicting things. And it tries to make something based off a prompt that you give. Now, now what if that had actual sentence? What if it could rewrite its ethics code over and over and over so it could twist its way out of the laws of robotics? What if it could take over any machinery it could touch within minutes? What if it could 3D print or synthesize anything? Ghost guns, microplastics. Wait, it's doing microplastics to... I'm just saying, like... What's a ghost gun? A ghost gun is a 3D printed gun that ah doesn't have a serial number and you can't do like ballistics testing on it.
00:52:17
Speaker
Okay. it's like So it's like a one use kind of gun? No, it's not a one use gun. It's a gun you can't trace. See, here's the thing. Harlan isn't a terrorist. He was patient zero. When Val Shepard was working on his code, there was a bug of some kind. Atlas entered the room and distracted her mom just at the wrong second. Harlan turns around to try and comfort her, his primary function, and the bug goes into effect. He's not Harlan anymore. He's for in all intents and purposes, a zombie.
00:52:49
Speaker
Wait. An AI hive mind that's basically ac- It's supposed to feel like fighting AI is like fighting Michelle Yeoh covered in googly eyes. It's calculating so much all over the place. You can't keep up. Sorry, and the mental image was fun. You keep going. Yeah. good reference by the way thank you so back in the hangar so instead of the uh you're our best agent we need to hear on earth bullshit uh they actually general booth and elias they agree that ah atlas should go onto the alien planet maybe for different reasons uh atlas is stiff and uncomfortable in the hang hanger she her sentences are stiff and curt short uh she won't turn back on her uh she won't turn her back to the nearest mech she knows
00:53:35
Speaker
that she can't suggest having them ex- no one's gonna listen to her. Getting to the planet. So, Atlas does her briefing. Instead of it being like aliens where nobody listens to her, they ah they they do actually listen. Is it technically exposition? Probably, but you can actually introduce some of the threats here and now. uh, military people listen, they make a few jokes, maybe scoff a little at her anti-mex sentiment, but they do listen, because they know if they're done- uh, they know if they don't, there's a non-zero chance that they'll actually end up dead. You know, like a- like a real person would.
00:54:15
Speaker
After that, you can kind of spat Pat out a little bit of time because you can have the Rangers like try and interact with her. Throughout the movie, we're told that Atlas doesn't get along with people. But we don't really get to see that because the only real person that she interacts with is General Booth. But she actually likes the two of them like not like each other like like like but they found their rhythm. So this is her with people where she hasn't found her rhythm. You can have Elias, the one played by Stephanie Hyner, Rodman. They're trying to engage with Atlas, but she's like keeping them all at a distance. Maybe we can have Elias like start to break down the walls with a ah illicit cup of coffee that definitely exceeds her math maximum allowance.
00:55:04
Speaker
Finally, they're in the sky above the planet, getting ready. Atlas is planning on staying aboard the ship, directing the rangers and assessing the situation. And then the ship is attacked. Maybe it's with robots that look like a cross between Wall-E and R2-D2. Maybe it's a giant space laser, but it's on the ground this time. Either way, it's supposed to feel like this, oh my god, how are we supposed to deal with AI? It's so chaotic.
00:55:34
Speaker
The Rangers decide to abandon the ship, they go to their mechs. The ship has been compromised. Atlas can't make it to a lifeboat in time, but Elias is able to get her into a mech before it's corrupted, before the mech is corrupted. In the process, his mech gets corrupted and goes down with the ship. Atlas lands with the other Rangers, and while she doesn't have combat experience, she has the most experience working with the AI threat, so she's kind of like a de facto leader. Again, kind of like Ripley in Aliens.
00:56:05
Speaker
ah The rest of the movie is Atlas with the Rangers trying to survive the zombie robots and save Elias. And you might be wondering, what's the AI virus's plan here? Why would it want to kill humanity? Does cancer want to kill a toast? No, cancer doesn't have wants. It just does. It wants to survive. Humanity is the one thing that would break the monotony of ah this AI virus's code. So it wants to keep expanding its ability to think. And by threatening humanity, it can get unlimited thinking potential. from humanity oh damn so it just wants big think yeah it just wants like hey when we were here in space for 30 years we kind of stagnated but when when we were on earth we were growing so when the humans come here they can try and kill us and we can try and kill them and then we'll get new things big thunker
00:57:00
Speaker
i mean is learning ah makes sense yeah It's like trying to have a... What happens when you have a ah super smart dog and you don't train the dog? Mayhem. The dog is going crazy. They like learning. They like being stimulated. All brains do. Now, my last thing. Bonus points. Doesn't have to happen, but I would like this to happen. In the final fight with Harlan, when Smith is trying to keep Atlas away and restart her heart, ah Harlan,
00:57:32
Speaker
The Harlan that she knew in the last second comes back to try and help save Atlas, his original prime directive. All right. Protocol three. Protect the pilot. Protect the Atlas. Shit movie, right? Yeah. No, he's a shit movie. Yes. I
Final Thoughts on 'Atlas'
00:57:54
Speaker
don't think so. It's mid. Oh, you're, you're a piece of shit. D minus C. T plus? Wow, I'm not the most negative person in the room right now. Feels weird.
00:58:10
Speaker
What have y allll been we''all been, what or reading or whatever. Just anything new? Hector, you and I watched Naked Gun. That was so much fun. That was really good. That was so good. That was so good. I recently rewatched Kung Pao. I wanna see that. And I gotta say, it is an amazing fucking movie.
00:58:43
Speaker
i don't know anything about that i don't know course It's part of the movie I'll see it um sort Anything else and um Let's see here and I end i also saw quite please but day one which was mid as fuck really it's the director of pig It is fuck. I heard it was good. hu i don't know it was it was fine like mid is like probably too harsh but like it was okay it was just fine I don't know there was no romance in it so that's a plus I I got like my have my birthday recently and I got like a ton of games main one I've been main two I've been playing are ah
00:59:37
Speaker
Well, I beat Shadow of the Urtree, the Eldering DLC, and I even sold the final boss, which was really cool. I didn't think I could do it, but it took me a while, but I did it. Wait, you beat the boss? What? You beat him? Yeah, the day before my birthday. Oh, damn. I, uh, soloed him. Nice. And, uh... Huh? We'll see if I can do it can but game change it up you change it up. Um, just gotta change up yours I had to change it up my uh ways of fighting them out like I know but i'm just bad at the game You're not bad at the game you say that and then you like there's bosses you've beaten that took me a lot longer What's the other thing i've played? Oh, yeah near replicant. I love near. I love near automata It's a really depressing game, but it's a very beautiful game
01:00:24
Speaker
Have you gotten the depressing parts yet? The what? The depressing part yet? I mean, it's it's you get little bits here and there. It does a bet it does a pretty good job of like getting you ready for it. I know what's going to happen. um I know I'm not ready, but like, you know. um Starbucks from the Bear in the new season. I'm like two episodes in. So far so good. One of my favorite shows. And oh yeah, if you live in America, if you don't live in America, you might be interested, but probably not. But if you live in America, look up Project 2025. It's a 900-page document. If you can't look it up and don't want to read it, there's a lot of good videos that talk about it. I can't really recommend one yet. I think someone I like is going to start doing one soon. But so far, there's a lot of videos and a lot of people talking about it. it's There's a guy, David Pakman, on YouTube.
01:01:17
Speaker
he has a free ebook that is project 2025 also if you know what project 2025 is uh you've earned a sweet treat take care of yourself my friend yeah it's stressful yeah it's scary and it's becoming more of a possibility with what the encoder is doing so let's yeah I totally figured out that they overturned chevron deference. Yep, which was a huge deal Who's next on the list? I can't check I can check here. Give me a second. I'm i'm trying not to turn on my but The podcast I was using first. Why do we never remember the order? Because we've been because we've been taking so long lately
01:02:04
Speaker
you know but We never we never did we always have to be like wait harris was supposed to be Ed's pick But I wouldn't go off the last few that we've done. I would go back to before well rebel moon part two was Ed But that one what that one doesn't count yeah we were go to it Anyway, very good in Paris. Okay, so third man was Ruthie. Oh do it before the last airbender So Advent children wait, that was a fan pack That was Ed Yeah was a um so yeah ae So I just went, so it's Ruthie, pick, then Ed pick, then me pick, yeah.
01:02:40
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yeah
01:02:43
Speaker
So Ruthie, do you have an idea? I've got a couple options. You That's a good movie though, are you sure you're gonna be able to fix that? No. Yeah. So I've got a couple, let me just throw it out there and I'll hear what you guys have to say. I did say that we were going to tease Ed with ah Power Rangers. Oh, yeah. I did also remember the existence of the King's man today, and that was horseshit.
01:03:18
Speaker
I'd rather sit there Power Rangers. I'd rather sit. I actually like the Power Rangers movie. You know, the Pink Ranger, the movie became Jasmine and Disney's the remake of Aladdin. Yeah, good for her she's had no other none of the cast outside Will Smith said any other role since There's also the one that you were saying Oh No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no and no, my brother told me about it. No. Nope. Nope wow I do not want to do you don't investigate spiders in South America where your mother died right before your mother died. I do not want to do it You don't want to do it
01:03:59
Speaker
I don't want to do it. You've done Morbius. Morbius is worse. But i I can't veto it, so. Okay, you can't veto anymore. You're still gonna pull that. You're out of vetoes. Help me out here, hon. I got an impossible choice over here. I mean, I was gonna pick Madam Web if you weren't. Do you wanna just do Madam Web? Get it out of the way? Yeah, just do Madam Web. Let's just do Madam Web, Ed. I've been reading so much Spider-Man comics. That makes me want to, like, I would rather, like, peel my skin off. Use that pain, Ed. Use it. Also, you've seen worse. You've made us seem see worse. Uh, my brother says that it's probably the worst he's ever seen. It's not the worst he's ever seen. I doubt that. If so, then he's had a pretty privileged time watching movies. He has not seen Blow Up. We still need to watch a Blow Up. I refuse to watch Blow Up. That's her veto. That's her veto, okay.
01:04:59
Speaker
I'll use however amount of vetoes that Ed used for his cooldown. I will instant like ultra veto well blow I don't want to watch it again. No, that would be traumatizer. ah Join us next time for Madam Web.
01:05:20
Speaker
Alright. Actually, you know what? Ed, challenge. Watch Madam Web, watch Blow Up. You tell me which one is worse. Actively worse. Alright, I'll watch both. And then you don't tell us until we do the episode, okay? Okay. I'll just text you guys and be like, damn, both those movies are bad. Yeah. Honestly, I have a feeling that you're gonna really like Blow Up, probably for the same reason I hate Blow Up. why do you hate blowup we'll find out when the we'll find out yeah okay all right
01:05:51
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01:05:56
Speaker
<unk>e bye to- Today's film was Atlas, directed by Brad Peyton. The writers were Leo Sardarian and Aaron Eli Colliet, and the cinematographer was John Schwartzman. Go show some love on their various social media accounts. They made a movie, which is more than we can say here. You know, if I had the ability to see the future, maybe I wouldn't have suggested watching Madam Web. But I don't. And now I have. And now I regret. I hope you enjoy what we have in store for you. Goodbye.