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Rebel Moon Part 2 2024
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Introduction to Reshoot Podcast
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Welcome to Reshoot. Amateurs in no suits. Too many movies to explore. Ruthie, actor, and Ed left till the end. Let's see something never done before.
Banter on Characters and Names
00:00:15
Speaker
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Reshoot, an amateur's guide to good or film, where we take movies that people like, dislike, or somewhere between, and we make them objectively better. I'm your host, Rival. Rival. Like Nemesis?
00:00:29
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What's the guy- What do you guys keep subbing Noble's name with? It's like, everything but. Like, Baron, I think it was? Baron, yeah, it was it. Baron. Oh, yeah. Baron. Who are you? Poorly written characters. That's a lot of them. Which one? Which one? Damn it. That's why I said characters. Yeah, I know. Which ones? Okay. So, Hector. Hector. That's all of them. Hector. Ruthie. Ed.
00:00:56
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And this is an over part, a part that is going to really have to edit down this episode.
Critique of Rebel Moon Part Two
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So today we're talking about Rebel Moon part two. The Skargiver. The Skargiver. I hate that name. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. Can we just talk about how dumb the name is? No, please. Just go on your rant. Just really first. Go on your rant.
00:01:15
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So the name of the part two is Scar-Giver. And the whole reason that the movie is called Scar-Giver is because Korra gives Scar. And I was thinking, okay, so like what? Did she give Belisarius like a cool face bad guy Scar? The one I suggested to Hector as like a fix was like, ooh, when she kills Princess Asa, spoilers by the way, full spoiler podcast.
00:01:42
Speaker
She gives Princess Isa her first scar, and that's a really badass, like, assassin title, the Skargiver. No, it's because she shanked Noble in a one-on-one fight when nobody was looking, and the only witness literally fucking died. And he got a scar. And he keeps trying to, like, make Skargiver happen. Skargiver isn't happening. This isn't fetch. This isn't Streets Ahead. Shut up. If you think, if you know what Streets Ahead is, you're Streets Behind.
00:02:10
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I guess I'm behind. You're Sverry Street's behind. We're not gonna do any synopsis. You've already seen part... If you've seen this, you've seen part one. You don't, and you watch part two. Okay, if you vaguely understand, like, if you vaguely know about Star Wars, this series is vaguely Star Wars. It's vaguely Rogue One. It... it rhymes. Unlike Lucas, though. Anyway. If you hear Jingle in the background, that's our cat, Boomer. He's our editor. No.
00:02:40
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He's our foley guy, and his foley specialties are bell jingle, sweet baby dance, and scream. Anyways, let's talk about this shit-ass movie. I really don't want to. I'd rather send...
00:02:56
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Pigeons and I can check out Ed's eyes and no, I was gonna say send pigeons with speakers Saying negative reviews to the Zack Snyder I don't know everyone knows that pigeon all pigeons know where Zack Snyder is at all times Bro
00:03:19
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He's the center. He's the key to all this. It's like Jar Jar's the key to all this with Lucas. Snyder's the key to all this for the pigeons. I honestly feel bad for Zack Snyder sometimes.
00:03:32
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I mean, yeah, I do too. I'm less negative in my actual talk. It's just kind of funny right now. All right. So who wants to go for Ed? You want to be the Cesar? I was going to say the same thing. Ed was so excited for this movie. I feel like he should be Cesar without losing a pic. Cesar is what we call our people, the person who's in charge of the episode. Yeah. Um. You go first, Hector. Okay.
00:04:03
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So, likes. It was a perfect place to end.
00:04:11
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It ended. It ended. The actors gave it the role and tied into that. Zack Snyder is a legitimately, I'm gonna say, he's a good director. He knows how to get the exact performance he wants out of people. But another like Balasarius has the most dedicated musicians I've ever seen.
00:04:34
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Like, okay, if Rebel Moon had leaned more into camp like Star Wars and other science fantasy tends to, like even Dune does it at times, I think a lot more people would be more forgiving of Rebel Moon or just be praising it because it just takes itself way too seriously. Also, like, I kind of wish we just got Jimmy, like a lot more of Jimmy the Robot. It's just like, he's such so cool.
00:05:03
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My dislikes. Snyder, you need to either stop writing with your other two writers for this one or you just need another writer to balance shit out because it feels like the characters skipped a movie development-wise. Korra went from no emotions to a lot of emotions. Emotion, just the one. Sad. Also scared and scared. Yeah. And like a little bit of cocky at times. Don't forget horny.
00:05:32
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Oh yeah, Horny. Really? She got- she was giving constipated to me. With the Horny? No. Yeah. The Horny was translating- With Diggleuda? With Guna? Yeah. Wait, we're talking about Korra, right? Yeah, Korra. Yeah, her and Guna hooked up.
00:05:48
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Well, yeah, but also that feels kind of like out of nowhere to like, yeah, it went like zero to 100. I don't know. Like if they barely talk like she was being a mentor to a woman. The next one was like, I want it. I saved you because I find you. I want to be with you. And they just fuck. And I'm like, OK. Well, not to mention, apparently, and again, we said this in the last episode, it's implied that she slept with Dan.
00:06:10
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Yeah. And I think in the like, I think of the, uh, in the Snyder cut, she did supposedly from the book. I don't want, I haven't listened to that last episode. Yeah. So it kind of just seems like she's fucking Gunnar cause again, she can't tell the two of them apart because one has a beard and one does not. I said it. Going back to that, the romance is so fucking out of nowhere. Like she had no romantic chemistry with anyone. Um,
00:06:40
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Palisarius, yelling at everyone to pull a Caesar on the Roman royal family was extremely badly acted. I don't know what happened there. That was not a good take. It was campy. It was campy. But again, like the movie's been so serious up to this point. It could have been really camping and fun. And coming camping and fun like they got all those musicians just playing live music and reacting to everything was like
00:07:04
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That's a great idea. Why are you? Why has the movie not had any kind of silliness to support this? Before it was cool, honestly, it was cool, but it would have been it felt more campy and silly. And it's not bad, but it just fell out of place at this rate. Well, would have been cool as if they'd done something where like the main theme for Motherworld, I can't remember it off the top of my head, but they had like a main sting or something for the for Motherworld. If they were playing like a full version of that, that was like longer and drawn out. Yeah.
00:07:34
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Yeah, I think I told you that you did say that. Yeah. Yeah. Rains of Castamere. Yeah. Yeah. But like it plays beforehand throughout like the first. My idea was it should have been playing throughout the first movie whenever we get mother world scenes. Just a little bit snippet. Didn't they do that? I don't remember if they did. That's the thing. The score was never that important. It was never that I feel like saying is about the composer. I don't think it's their fault. I just don't think.
00:07:57
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It was standing out as much. It wasn't ear grabbing. It wasn't ear grabbing, except for when it was being played live in that one moment. And then it still sticks a little bit in my head. There's a lot of good strings. Also kind of funny how it's in the future world and there's like, they're still the same instruments. I don't know. And masquerade masks. And masquerade masks. I mean, I don't, I feel like masquerade is never going to die though. It's such a good... So goth. It's so goth. It's so campy even. Like it's great.
Improving Rebel Moon: Plot and Pacing Fixes
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Love it. Why do they have a bunch of slum of them farming?
00:08:29
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Like, okay, first we all farm, and then we train in three days. Ruthie, what was your joke? Every time? So, the first time, it's like, oh, we have five days to train, and then I piped up, and then Titus turns to the nearest person and says, if I had six days, I could train them into a deadly fighting force that you could rival Motherworld. And every time a time increment has gone by, it's just like, if I had X plus one more, I could train them. So like,
00:08:59
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It took us three days to get the grain. We have two days left. If I had three days, I could train you even better soldiers. Mothership's going to be... King's Gaze is going to be here an hour. If I had two hours, I could train you. Also, are the Dreadnoughts alive? There was that robot inside the engine and it was like...
00:09:20
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the entire ship. And that was so cool. It was so cool. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like that was the closest thing. I feel like Zach's been trying to emulate a little bit of Star Wars. That was the closest he got. And I'm like, wait, what's this out there idea? Please show me more. Literally never mentioned again and not expanded on. That's so cool. I'm like, wait, like sentient ships? That's bananas. Show me more. It's not like AI. It's an actual mechanical body. I'm like, oh,
00:09:50
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Oh, it's so cool. Why did they undo the genuinely good idea of Korra killing Princess Isa? Like, here's my stupid fix, okay? I'm going to spoil the first 20 minutes of Final Fantasy XVI, okay? I'm just saying this because- It's like half the game. Yeah, it's half the game. God, that game took me forever, joking aside.
00:10:20
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In 5.16, there's people who have icons and they can like, they can control like different, like, you know, Bahamut, Phoenix. Imagine Pokemon, but you're possessed. By a Pokemon, yeah. By a Pokemon so you can turn into a Pokemon. But you can give your power, like a portion of your power to someone permanently. Right. Like Clive, the main character gets that. That's why he can use Phoenix powers. So, because of that, why can't he just do that kind of thing and then like,
00:10:49
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Korra, before she died, before Isa died, she gave, she's like, I forgive you, and that was all she needed to give Korra the healing powers. And then you can keep the genuinely good thing of like, she really forgave her, not because she knew she'd probably be alive, but because like, you hurt me, but I still really care about you, and I want you to heal and move on from this. Like a literal manifestation of that. It feels like such a missed opportunity.
00:11:20
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Also, if Titus knew Isa's alive and everything, why didn't he try to kill Korra at any point? He knew who she was. He wanted to do all that farming. Okay, here's another plot. This is another dislike, and this is a weird one. It was while I was writing my notes. I put this train of thought here. I'm writing this two days later from watching it, and I know Joke forgot a lot of the story already. I tried to use the Wikipedia page, and it wasn't, and there's still not, as of the time when I wrote this bit,
00:11:49
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I wrote this a few days ago on, uh, I wrote this on like a Sunday, Saturday or Sunday, no, Sunday. I couldn't find anything on the Wikipedia page on the general thing. I had to go on a Reddit discussion thread about the movie for our movies. Well, what are you losing track of? At the time, everything. It's a really basic, uh, Kurosawa defend the village trope. That's it. That's the movie. Yeah, but like I was trying to write specifics about character moments, but nothing was really sticking out.
00:12:16
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like I also have a few deaths yeah but like how the character for feeling other than the tightest drinking thing which was weird yeah like I didn't I don't know it just kind of felt like enough like I couldn't keep them attract people apart uh also we killed the baddie no you didn't in a span of 10 seconds is shit pacing you should have given in a movie to breathe
00:12:45
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Also, I could have sworn they destroyed the ship. Yeah, I could have sworn. There was somebody who said like, wow, we destroyed the Dreadnought. We destroyed the King's Gaze. So that's the thing that actually like I remember having a discussion with my roommates about that. Like I said that it was not the Dreadnought that they destroyed. Turns out I was right. But
00:13:13
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They made it seem like it was the Dreadnought. It was so big. But it wasn't massive. It was inside the atmosphere of this rock. No, you're right. You're right. I see now looking back on it. Yeah, but it looks so similar. There was nothing like you can tell in Star Wars, you can tell the difference between an Imperial shuttle and a fucking Star Destroyer.
00:13:33
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like there's big differences. Yeah, a lot of visual differences, but we won't the only exposure that we have to mother world and like the militaristic culture is like the big dreadnought and that the only one we really know by name is the king's gaze. So they didn't give us any kind of like care Cora being like
00:13:52
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Oh shit, that's that's a carry all or whatever the fuck. The carry all? I couldn't carry carry all carry all alone. I don't know. I'm trying to help you out here. Oh, Carol's from Dune. I couldn't think of anything. It's like a dude. The carry all is the ship that carries the factor. Is it the fact that the spice refiner factories? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I didn't know that.
00:14:18
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so i don't okay the part where she's like i don't want anyone dying for me so i'll surrender like you just spent like three days out of the i'm not gonna make a complaint about the i'm sure you both are gonna complain about the farming to the tax the amount they spent farming to fighting training is a little unreal
00:14:36
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But like, yeah, it's logistically possible. But I'm, I'm trying to suspend my disbelief. Yeah. But like, why are you you just taught them how to fight? Why are you just surrendering now? Like, I get the idea behind it. But like, maybe fight a little first and then see Oh, it's going badly. Oh, maybe I should surrender and then Yeah, I felt too at a left field. Yeah, I don't.
00:14:58
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Her character really got rigady wrecked in the second movie. I was kind of kind of digging what they were doing with Korra. It was kind of basic, you know, like strong, emotionless, vaguely sad, badass, lead lady. But now she's just sad and kind of disappointing. I don't know. Like, again, it felt like if you had one more movie where her spirit was broken or some shit, like on the way back, they go on a bunch of misadventures. Like you can do this in three acts. You want to know how?
00:15:28
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Instead of having them having to go to the mother world, the, uh, what's the bad guy's name? Let me be a bad guy. No, no. Oh, sorry. Belisarius is like, no, no, no. I'm going there myself to make sure she's dead. Then you just have it in the planet. That's all you have to do. But, and just to have the second movie, them with all their ships destroyed, trying to get their way back. But no, um, sorry, I'll stop, but this is your turn. I know.
00:15:55
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I had such a hard time writing for this. There's not a lot to grasp onto. The fighting was okay, but there was nothing to fix there. So the story, but there's barely a story. And it's all wishy-washy, so I can't grasp the theme or the spirit of it. Well, why don't you just go based off the fixes that you had for the last month? I didn't do that. I did find a way later. I'm just showing you guys how hard I didn't like this. How in my mind, how deeply flawed the movie is. There's nothing for me to really grasp onto.
00:16:26
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Like this, if I was being extra mean, which I guess I am now, I feel like this is perfect for Netflix because it's just a bunch of forgettable movies a lot of times. I've watched a lot of them. I can, I can say that, but yeah. Okay. So here's my fixes. It's been a month since they arrived on belt and they're mainly training the villagers. It's a lot more time for everyone to care and talk to each other that way.
00:16:56
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And also they don't talk about their backstories, right? That way they do in my fix. Oh, I thought you were in the. No, no, no. So they have a month to train. It's been a month or training, right? A lot more time for everyone to care and talk to each other. No backstories. The romance has time to simmer between Gunnar and Korra. They're told by the hologram that they have one more month.
00:17:27
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Since there were issues with the new admiral and they had to retreat, right? Because they told the things is a good idea, right? Like that one guy who's pretending to be. Yeah, no, I like that idea. Yeah. It's actually one more day and they've only trained half the village as well. So Cora, Gunnar and the blood axe with the eye paint just die. They do an aerial, like a rail gun. Wait, Cora dies? Cora, Gunnar and the blood axe.
00:17:55
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with the eye paint dyes like I mean a little but like there's not a lot of character for them to go on and I think it would be core is the main character I don't care okay Game of Thrones doesn't it's fine I do and also know Hector get out of here there's no main character in Game of Thrones yeah but like oh I can't know can I be yeah Jon Snow
00:18:35
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Nothing. It's the blood acts with the eye paint It's just wait which blood acts with the eye paint the one who was with with both of them had the eye paint though Well, who's the girl the blonde girl with the eye paint in the fight Mila Mila Mila Okay, she dies. I see just there was nothing. I can find any I'm sorry I I couldn't like the Mila to rock ship I did but again it the movies already bloated who's to rock the prints the prints from another planet who has the bird and
00:18:38
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I know, but he doesn't stay dead. Spoilers!
00:19:04
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Oh, the guy who had like eight lines in the entire movie. In this one, yeah. In both movies. Yeah. In both movies. Literally, literally, he should have been, he should be one of the ones to die. No, but he's cool. He's literally useless. But I fuck with him so much. Like, no, come on, I fuck with him so much. I wish I had abs like that, dude. No, he's fucking stays. Trump dies in my fix.
00:19:29
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Okay, anyway, so the new team is Jimmy, Tidus, Turok, and Nemesis. And here's, I can't remember the Reddit comment, I feel, so I was scrolling through comments, one of the complaints was like, man, they didn't even, they were struggling, they didn't have a chance to argue or feel like they had to leave or they couldn't do it, it was just, go, there was no tension. So here's what I'm doing, they all start, so after the explosion happens, they all get railgunned, they survive from the debris, it's just luck.
00:19:58
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They all start to make plans to leave and go back home, outside of Jimmy, who we follow as the main character in this one. Jimmy's in the Saloon town area working as a guard and trying to convince people to help him fight the Motherworld.
Enhancing Character Interactions
00:20:10
Speaker
Wait, like at Providence? Yeah, the town, whatever, yeah. The big town, not the village. This version of Mos Eisley.
00:20:19
Speaker
Mos Eisley, yeah, the one from the last movie. Providence. Providence, thank you. Wow, you have a good memory of that. I wrote my notes in the notes of the last movie because I wanted it to feel cohesive. Fair enough. OK, good job. That's really good. I should have done that. So he's in the saloon. He's being a bouncer and trying to convince people to help him fight Motherworld, and avenge Isa and Korra. The other heroes show up all kind of cool. They've all talked about behind the scenes and they grab a drink and they're like, we couldn't leave you, you know.
00:20:49
Speaker
They got a drink of oil. Yeah, you love a robot you Also, they get the blue alien that grabs on to people and controls them. I want him in the movie I just want to back he's gonna live every single moment every single movie that they make more of these which I don't think they are Everyone else they can die they can die the blue alien that grabs on to people and mind controls them He's on board. Also, we need an alien. Every one of these movies needs an alien and the team Good job So here's the thing they use the drop pod that she came on and
00:21:20
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that Cora escaped from and got into the plant belt they get all get on board and they get onto a bigger ship they get hired by bigger ship they find in space or they they just kind of hired they just kind of hide with them or hitchhiking Oh hitchhiking yeah hitchhiking
00:21:37
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And then they overhear radio because you got to have some way of communication. They kind of like intercept it and they're like, oh, oh, they're going to get another planet. OK, we can just sneak in. And they do the exact same thing Cora did to sneak in during a big fight of another rebellion. They get in. All hell breaks loose as the fight goes on. So Admiral Noble, who was not successful in living, because
00:21:59
Speaker
Okay, I wrote down Wright for once. Baliserious killed him when he was like, oh, you failed me. You could have lived and now I'm frying your brain. And he just fries the brain while I'm trying to bring him back. It's not led by that second in command who genuinely looked more imposing in this movie. Dude was imposing as fuck. I'm like, yeah, that's cool. And so they're all going in different ways. They're just trying to sabotage the ship, right?
00:22:28
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Jimmy convinces the robot in the middle of the ship. He's like, oh, you're like me. We don't have to help these guys. We can make our own path because Jimmy's been able to be free. And then the robot starts helping them out by sabotaging the entire ship little by little. So here's an example. The Empire's trying to find Jimmy with maybe some special batons they have because they knew the robots could potentially uprise. And if they hit him,
00:22:58
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He's down, right? So they're about to find him, the lights turn off. You see Jimmy's bright eyes in the dark scene and he's just killing the... You don't get to see a lot of it, but you hear a lot of cracking and snapping.
00:23:14
Speaker
Have the robe won Darth Vader music playing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nemesis is slicing and dicing a lot more she did in this one. Also, I want to keep my one fix from the last one where she has robo legs, right? So then, you know, the ship robots just like, oh, there's a little too many of them, she's gonna start getting tired. Okay, I'll just turn the gravity off in this room. And then she turned the he turns off the gravity. And then she with her robot legs that are thrusters, she can just fly around and kill them all.
00:23:46
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To rock he had small beasts from belt aboard and they just fucking shred wires and I even shoot through bits of armor So that you know, the other heroes are shooting can get easier kills on them The blue alien will just jump from one baddie make him shoot the other baddie jump to another one, you know Finally it ends with nemesis having a chance to you know, she's like I don't I gave up on revenge. I
00:24:11
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but she made friends with all those kids so she just goes right back onto it and just back on my it's her and jimmy also so you know he kind of had super strengths in this movie the noble okay right maybe it actually gives you like a lot of maybe once you because balisarius is like an inhuman monster who's like i want to create better soldiers yeah if you come admiral you now get super enhancements like super strength
00:24:36
Speaker
it's like a real samurai battle with this you know the thing because you know samurai swords they aren't really supposed to clash because if they do they break easily or they got a few so she can't break she can't get hit by him or she can't have her sword block it because it's he's hitting with such force it'll just snap her sword so it's mainly her and jimmy having so jimmy's doing more of the brunt stuff trying to like getting tired doesn't she do laser swords
00:25:02
Speaker
She has laser swords, but she can't always get in there. So she's using speed. Jimmy's using strength. This guy has both. And they have to kind of tag team. It's a two V one. And, uh, they kill them, you know, that decapitation, keep that in. And then right as their fault, they destroy the ship. They escaped or escape pod right toward the other blood axes in that planet that was being attacked. And that's how you set up the next movie. I don't know. I, again, I couldn't find much. I just thought this would be fun. Not bad.
00:25:34
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Yeah. All right. Ruthie. All right. Also, I just want to point out that I should I should have listened to my fixes before this to make it more cohesive like you did. But hey, I'll have a whole year or some of some number of months
00:26:02
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We can do a repeat bonus episode for like Patreon or something where you guys make a cohesive trilogy or something. I don't think we're getting a third one, you guys. We're getting six, bro. We're not getting six. He's like, we are getting six. Netflix is canceling that shit so hard.
00:26:21
Speaker
after after the third one they're gonna I saw no I know I saw no ads for this one except for like two on reddit dude yeah I know one no I think the deal was for three so they're gonna honor the deal and they don't have to they cancel the show that they aren't gave a second season to before this first seat right as the first season finished so Netflix does whatever the fuck I want I want third one I know you want the third one I'm just saying you're might be disappointed
00:26:50
Speaker
Like, so let's go. I was gonna say got rid of the idiot plots, but kind of the whole thing is an idiot plot. Like I said, they like ruined the climax of the last movie by taking back the two things that they did. That's a dislike, sorry. Anywho, more time with the ensemble cast, kinda.
00:27:14
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Jimmy. I liked all but one scene with Jimmy. I swear, I'm trying to like the movie. The assassination scene was kind of campy. It was very campy. It was enjoyable if you just turned your brain off. The three words Snyder probably doesn't want to hear with his movies. Brango burr.
00:27:37
Speaker
I ship Turok and Mila now. I do ship them too. Yeah, they had in the one scene where Turok talks and Mila is there. Good. I like. Nemesis cutting off her arms to avenge her children in her deep, dark backstory. Fucking rad. That was all right. Jesus. That was cool. Yeah. Nemesis is awesome. I think Nemesis is my favorite in the first movie remains.
00:28:07
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Mm-hmm. I'm so no. No as we're watching this movie and she got her death scene. I'm like, oh no, Ed Like out loud I was like, oh shit Ed. Oh, man. He's not gonna want any more of these movies now Also, like real quick, right? She she gives her backstory about she cut off her arms because these gauntlets have the memories of her ancestors who were Warriors, correct?
00:28:37
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Okay, she can't handle three sword boys, okay just saying just saying She had two gauntlets that had like special Memories, I think that was and then she just can't handle. I think that was more symbolic. I
00:28:56
Speaker
No, but I do like the idea that it was programming that was memorized. It should have been legit. Just lean into it. She should have wiped the floor with them is all I'm saying. We got a cool space Korean lady. Just let her do her shit. I do also like how the light retconned her character where the first movie was like, I'm going to avenge the honor of my dead children. She's like,
00:29:22
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Fuck them. Fuck them, Motherworld. I was gonna say kids, but no, she's kind of the opposite of that. But no, they did a really tasteful, like, nemesis introduction for a character that was already in the movie. Again, I swear, I'm trying to like the movie. I'm not trying. You don't have to. You don't have to. Yeah. Also, like, it feels weird. So like,
00:29:46
Speaker
A spider lady is easy for her to kill, but three dudes and saying it now I'm like, wait. Yeah. Three fascist dudes, which historically, uh, they've been like called really bad-ass. But if you look at the actual history, usually a bunch of wieners also like they're faceless too. So by rule, by application, they're, or maybe they're wearing faces. I think the thing is like they, they all came at her at once, which usually faceless MOOC rules you're supposed to do one on one.
00:30:16
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I know, but still again, again, it was two normal soldiers and like a sergeant. No, I'm agreeing with you. Also, if she can deflect bullets, she can she can go faster than them. That felt kind of. Yeah.
00:30:34
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It's nemesis though. Let's keep talking about our dislikes, shall we? The first 10 minutes of the movie destroys the climax and the payoff. Like all that tension is gone from the first movie because Noble didn't die and apparently the ship wasn't destroyed. Again, I'm salty about it. I could have sworn they were like, yeah, we got that. We lost all the blood axes except Mila, but the ship's gone. Yeah.
00:31:00
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Korra leaned way too hard into being sad girl and She had like a super generic character in the first movie fine sure I could live with that but this bullshit She's supposed to be the strong stoic But you're just gonna make her sad It's sometimes boy hours sometimes constipated horny constipated horny
00:31:27
Speaker
Come on, man. I want a good female action character. Give me Ellen Ripley. But what is this bullshit? Give me Kamala Khan. Kamala Khan! I like Kamala Khan. But she's not the strong stoic type. That's a... Oh, you're talking about strong stoic specifically. Yeah. I haven't seen Terminator, but like... You haven't seen Terminator? No, I haven't seen any of the Terminators. Oh, I need to watch those.
00:31:52
Speaker
Uh, Korra and Gunnar could have been built up way more, but they just went straight to fucking, which again, leads to my theory that Korra couldn't tell Den and Gunnar apart. Honestly, if it was just like, if it was just a physical thing after surviving that battle, I'd be, I don't think I'd be giving as much shits. Like, yeah, that happens. Like they kind of had some chemistry because like Korra was like opening up to him, but like, was, was not fully feeling it. I don't know. I don't think anyone was. Yeah.
00:32:22
Speaker
There is so much slow-mo farming footage. And keep in mind, this is what they put on screen. How much farming did they have on the camera? 20 minutes, I think, of actual farming was the count someone mentioned.
00:32:39
Speaker
when it was all like regular speed. And again, that's what ended up in the movie. No, what I'm saying is we got 20 minutes of actual farming. Again, that's what's finally on the screen. Think about all the farming scenes that they didn't add in because you know he got more. I'm just saying there's so much farming in this movie. Do you think he tried to do the same thing Nolan did with Interstellar where they grew an actual cornfield and they just made money off of the cornfield?
00:33:07
Speaker
Probably. I don't think wheat takes that long to grow. Make a profit. Make some bread. Hi, Boomer. Do you have your thoughts? He has more thoughts than all the characters in this movie combined. Okay, yes. But still cat brain. So smooth. So smooth. No wrinkles. Thoughts slide right off.
00:33:39
Speaker
I get they're doing the Curaçao would defend the village trope. That's it. That's the whole movie But I was kind of hoping for more like strategy and planning on Cora's side I was really disappointed like I was expecting kind of like a dune faints within faints within faints kind of thing where like Titus was a general for mother world. He knew all their strats and like Nobles a sadist bastard who's going to commit war crimes. I wanted more like
00:34:08
Speaker
something meaty, but it was really basic and kind of disappointing, at least to me. I don't get why they didn't just blow up the entire field like they did that one bit, but I didn't just do it when he was when Noble was down there. It felt like a really missed guerrilla warfare opportunity. So they didn't do any guerrilla warfare. It makes sense. Yeah. Well, the other than the bombs under in the I mean, and the soup, the super fast digging trench. Surprised trenches. Um.
00:34:36
Speaker
Oh, they also ruined... I'm going out of order now because I didn't get a chance to write it down. They fucking ruined Jimmy's character. The last line that he has, like, all my love for Jimmy, I could just feel it seeping out of my body.
00:34:51
Speaker
Why? What was the line? Just for as a reminder. So the scene is when they find out that Isa was alive the whole time that she never died by Korra's hand, he's like, well, I guess I have a sworn duty to protect my princess. Basically, that's what he says. In the first movie, he's introduced to us by saying that he became a pacifist because the princess he devoted his life to as a robot soldier.
00:35:21
Speaker
died. Also, did he say he could feel it? Yes, he sensed her death. So then if she's alive, then would he be able to sense that too? Yeah, because this wouldn't be like a Belisarius thing because Belisarius wouldn't want to get rid of his really awesome robot soldiers. They were the ones who felt it. They knew that she was different from the get go. He says it in the first movie. Words mean things.
00:35:45
Speaker
He went from a really awesome multi-classing robot fighter druid into, I don't know, just so sad, so disappointing. Jimmy was my favorite character. I think it's just Anthony Hopkins. Oh, Jimmy, Anthony Hopkins sold it, but I loved Jimmy for the character that he was. He had a really interesting arc. He could have been the main character. He could have really been the main character. Agreed.
00:36:16
Speaker
While we're on this topic, Titus was really fucking weird throughout the whole movie. Hector said it really well with like, why the fuck wouldn't he tell Korra that Isa never died? Also,
00:36:28
Speaker
If Korra killed Isa, wouldn't Jimmy know?
Character Motivations and Redesigns
00:36:32
Speaker
Wouldn't everybody know? I'm surprised everyone's like, who the fuck are you when they're talking to Korra? Because I don't know, if I was an evil dictator type, I would absolutely blast my adopted daughter turned traitor as being the murderer of the princess that everybody loves. That's propaganda 101, they're fascists, come on.
00:36:56
Speaker
Yeah. Um, my last dislike that I have written down is Mila wants to defend the village, but spends half the fight hiding in the roof. Uh, fixes. First one. Fuck it. The gang destroyed the king's gaze in the middle at the end of my movie. I'm keeping that. I can, I can work with this Zachary. I can commit. Sorry. When you said the gang, I keep imagining the it's always son of a gang. Really? I'm thinking the atla gang. Oh, that too. But like,
00:37:25
Speaker
It's always Sunny Gang just completely wrecking shop at the King's Gaze. Especially when Mack is involved. Okay, so yeah, King's Gaze gone.
00:37:40
Speaker
Noble was salvaged by the nearest Motherworld dropship. So like another Dreadnought was like just barely had a dropship in the area. It took some time. There's another Dreadnought, but it cannot accommodate. Again, so there's a second Dreadnought that's like
00:37:57
Speaker
not close enough, but it's also like fully housed. So they can only accept so many of the people, the survivors of the King's case. There were a lot, cause they were like, they could kind of see what was going on. They'd be able to like flee and shit, whatnot, whatever. This gives them even more reason to be feral, hungry and ruthless. They really need the grain now. They're desperate. That makes a lot more sense.
00:38:24
Speaker
I'm also gonna lean more into the sci-fi shit cuz this is fun I'm gonna turn noble into a gaseous Android thing all a la hellboy 2 Wait, so he's rebuilt as an Android. Yeah, so because it took so long for the dropship to show up They couldn't like get all of his meat body, but they were able to like I don't I don't fully have a robo got them Kind of again robo fascist them
00:38:53
Speaker
Do you remember how boy two with the character that was like a gas in like a hazmat suit kind of a Little I want to do that. I don't have a scientific. I don't have a sci-fi explanation, but this is space opera So I don't need it. I just want it to be oh easy his brain and his soul need a yeah something of an enclosure Yeah, put him in a suit. Yeah, there we go
00:39:17
Speaker
Oh corrupted form visa's powers like to try to meant synthetically make yeah, I love it. Okay Uh back on belt moon the gang shows up they have a full day to celebrate their hard-earned victory Hard-earned they destroyed the ship we did it Patrick we saved the city. Oh
00:39:42
Speaker
Eris, the child soldier guy who is the son of Noble, that's according to the plot of the original movie, the next day he gets an alert from a second dropship the princesses embrace to notify him and his now dead platoon about their reassignment to this particular ship.
00:40:03
Speaker
He learns that Noble is serving as Admiral-Advisor on the ship, on Princess's Embrace, because the original Admiral of that ship has passed away.
00:40:14
Speaker
the robot that is in the engine room, the way that the ships go, they can't move if the admiral is not on board. So they needed an admiral to be on the ship. And the closest guy that was an admiral, like could be an admiral, wasn't quite qualified. So the two of them together combined make an admiral. Okay, so
00:40:39
Speaker
You got two people competing to be admiral in a sense. No. Noble is still like sadistic bastard. I'm trying to give him more of like a puppet master, like corruptor type role where he's trying to like whisper into the ear of this admiral and turn him into Noble II, Electric Boogaloo. Did you make him? God damn it, Ruthie. What? Did you give him a gas body so he can be a noble gas? That's hilarious.
00:41:10
Speaker
Did he not do this on purpose? No. God damn it. I'm keeping it. No, I just like the aesthetic of hazmat suit sci-fi. I don't know. No, that's cool. Yeah. The world of Rebel Moon needs more sci-fi elements. Needs some whimsy. Yeah. I forgot aliens were in the first movie.
00:41:37
Speaker
Until Hector said at the end of this movie, oh wow, what are the blood axes as an alien? Oh shit, right. It's because they're doing the empires of our fascists and only xenophobic shit, but it doesn't work. Also, did anyone else, not me, notice that there's like one woman in the entire mother world army and that's Korra? I didn't realize it. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucked.
00:42:08
Speaker
so far. No, no, we're not getting a third one. In the first movie, it felt like there was more like women in the like Academy stages. But then like, noble ship was all dudes. And then this movie is also all dudes on the mother show. It's because Ruthie it's because the women are all put in administrative positions.
00:42:29
Speaker
They do the academy like everyone else, but then they're sent off to do paperwork and be secretaries. Or if they're going by Nazi Germany rules. Don't go, don't say that part out loud. I know exactly what you're saying. Propaganded to become baby factories. Yeah, okay, that's a good way of doing it. Oh, and I will also say the new admiral, he...
00:42:52
Speaker
took inspiration for Princess Isa. He's kind of green behind the ears. He's kind of a hopeful optimist. And again, Noble is like, Belisarius reincarnated, reborn, but he's not even dead yet, so.
00:43:10
Speaker
The princess's embrace will arrive in a few days, get the grain ready. That's the message that Eris gets. The gang has to train the village to be just as ruthless back to the ship, same plot. The blood axes, because I didn't fully state in my notes whether the blood axes joined or not, so I'm going to say both of them lived
00:43:32
Speaker
are planning on running interference, they're gonna like skirmish the princess's embrace to delay their arrival. Oh, that's good. Yeah, gives them actual purpose. And so just showing up at the end. Instead of just showing up at the end. Also, since I complained about it, here's how I would strategize for the fight. Keep in mind, we have a samurai, a pirate, a cowboy. What else did I have? A fencer.
00:44:04
Speaker
on the last one and a noble that was it part of my fix in the first movie so funny that you're like oh he should be a noble and then he really was a noble in that planet in the past there was a throwaway line about him being a noble i pictured it being
00:44:18
Speaker
More animally? Because again, I said he looked more like a frog. So more, wait, you mean more tribal? Not tribal. No, I mean, animals should be all over the planet. Every, everywhere should have- Oh right, you made him like a half frog, half man thing, right? Like a frog alien guy. Yeah. No, but I like leaned in on the noble stuff. It was kind of ridiculous and funny, at least in my mind. I'm talking about like the, all I'm picturing is the frog from Jedi Survivor.
00:44:48
Speaker
I was thinking Mr. Toad, but, uh... Voice by Zim? No, I was just thinking, literally, my thought was, Turok looks like Mr. Toad, but alien, so a little fancy suit. And he's got a throat sack that allows him to communicate with all sorts of animals. Okay, thank you for reminding me. Yeah. So we got Turok, we got Nemesis, um, she's a fencer, not a samurai, of course the samurai.
00:45:14
Speaker
Gunnar became a cowboy, Titus is a pirate and a general, and who else am I forgetting? Did I get everybody? I think you did. That was all the main ones, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't have anything for Mila because I didn't realize Mila would be... Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Character? No, that's fine. Anywho, here's how the fight goes.
00:45:41
Speaker
noble is expecting them to to store the women all the non-combatants in this longhouse so Titus our pirate puts all the men and all the fighting people in the longhouse the blood axes have arrived at this point because so has mothership they put all the non-combatants in the blood axes ships uh
00:46:05
Speaker
Noble will try to do his little kidnapping thing and then all hell breaks loose. You're gonna sub out Mila with Nemesis because it makes more sense. She wants to defend the village. That's her backstory. Find her, whatever. Don't just hide in a roof. Nemesis, I made her like a fencer. I also added in sniper because I thought that would be fun. She can snipe from the rooftops.
00:46:31
Speaker
Spare wheat that won't be used to feed the village after the battle or to pay the blood access will be bagged and used for makeshift bombs. You don't have to put this movie on planes. That's fine. There's a lot of plane movies. Yeah, Titus is going to teach them how to play dirty. He knows the rules. More importantly, he knows how to break them. Make, belt, moon, do, war, crimes. I dig it.
00:46:59
Speaker
the Geneva suggestions. Yeah, Gunnar can, I guess he can die. Oh, Jimmy and Turok should have more scenes together because Ranger Druid, come on. Jimmy, like he's an authority on the terrain of the area, even though he's only been here a month, he's like the expert. Let me see.
00:47:28
Speaker
For Isa, the Isa has returned part. I don't know, I guess you could say like, oh, she reincarnated or something. Somehow Isa has returned. You need Oscar Isaac and there's a quick cameo. And his little like, same face of just like, I can't believe I have to say these lines. I'm being paid to say this.
00:47:50
Speaker
But yeah, that's how I'd fix the movie. Wait, so where you going for Isa? Oh, you just find another way to explain Isa? No, she just like reincarnated. That's what I figured happened. Like, you know, you know, it can it kind of makes sense that Isa can come back to life because she had that power already. She made that bird be alive again.
00:48:10
Speaker
So they forgot to double tap. That's what happened. That's what went wrong. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cora did double tap toward and double tap. Also. Yeah. Cora. Sorry. Just kidding. Not done with the Cora. I'm sorry. I'm trying to go fast.
00:48:29
Speaker
She's called Skargiver because she killed Isa, but then at the end, she was so angry, she did let out a shot. She did give Belisarius a cool bad guy scar. And that's why she's called Skargiver. And he's propagandizing her saying that while he was trying to defend poor Isa's life, this is the wound that he got from his own adopted daughter. What a monster. There we go. Done. Good.
00:48:58
Speaker
Alright, so I'm gonna start with my likes. Uh, so you agree Jimmy is the best character in this fucking movie.
00:49:10
Speaker
I also liked how he had his normal druid antlers and then his tactical antlers when he got into a fight. Oh shit yeah tactical antlers yeah yeah he had the big ones and then when he was in the fight he had the smaller ones because they're tactical antlers. Warforged druid vibes. I am now gonna, another character is now in my pipeline for D&D. I have one for a warforged druid named Jimmy. That's cool do it.
00:49:39
Speaker
All right. What else did I like in this movie? Okay, honestly, the farming montage was kind of funny. I liked that. It was also giving camp. Yeah, it was. Yeah. And I did I
00:50:00
Speaker
I did like the music people just like playing more intensely as people were getting murdered in front of them. What else did I like in this movie? I think that's it. Oh, Nemesis' backstory. Very good. Her hands. Yeah. All right. I think the real reason too is because like that metal, the not sabers run so hot that
00:50:24
Speaker
Yeah, so I think I think in my original fix I I kind of like ended it before Like they even fought noble for the first time I'm pretty sure and if I didn't then I just think you did you did it was just a betrayal of Kai Yeah, and and I I don't know if I cut out any characters and I think I did You wanted to cut out to rock but then you wrote to rock back in
00:50:52
Speaker
Yes. So let's retcon that. Turok never existed. Okay. Turok is gone. Who else is gone? Whoever I'm forgetting is also gone. Oh, I know. Titus is required. I'm okay with Mila. Just get Turok out of there. He's not needed. And like,
00:51:19
Speaker
Biggest thing about that is like my biggest issue with Tarak is Or one of my bigger issues with Tarak is he's a noble from a fucking gothic Fucking blood-borne ass looking planet
00:51:35
Speaker
and then he goes full tarzan it's literally uh sunless skies that's his planet it's i was just waiting to see like a floating train whizzing by yeah i know but like why why does he come from like a gothic victorian era blood-borne ass looking
00:51:54
Speaker
Planet and then he goes full Tarzan when you could give him some like you could Cast a different person and give him some steampunk vibes and that would make a little bit of sense So here's what here's what we're gonna do we're gonna write to rock back in I
00:52:17
Speaker
But Mila's gone, and Turok is bloodborne. No, no, fuck Turok. He's gone. Never happened, not important. Literally, worst character in the fucking movie. Literally, just get him out of here. But the man has abs for days. But he has good chemistry with Mila. So does Titus. And the relationship I actually ship. Sucks to suck. He's got you there, hun. He's got me there. Yeah.
00:52:45
Speaker
and then I don't know so just it's hard because I think I ended it before they fought noble so I think I think for this for this thing I'll just say that they fought noble and noble fucking got giga like obliterated like dead dead he's dead done to shreds you say the shreds
00:53:14
Speaker
How about his wife? Oh. To shreds? And then this one will be called Rebel Room Part 2 Wrath of Motherworld. Something like that. Or revenge. Do you know where I'm going? Motherworld's revenge? Yeah. Anyways. Motherworld will be motherworlding. So I actually do like how the movie starts like detention, gone, whatever. It's okay. It's all
00:53:43
Speaker
Fine. It's not that big of a deal for me at least. And this this is where like. Because a lot of it I hated, but. I kind of want to try and keep it in line. With the major like stuff that happened, but. We'll still have the the training, I will give them more time than just like five days, obviously.
00:54:15
Speaker
Oh, actually, let's let's write out that's right off Mila. Also, the blood ice girl. She died also. And let's let's not never mind. Forget it. Were you going to run it back on to write it back? Um.
00:54:38
Speaker
And yeah, I'll give them like at least a month to like train and harvest all the grain and all of that stuff in preparation for guy coming in and to keep it on the deal.
00:54:53
Speaker
It'll be that the the soldier kid gets the same message, but it's from also from like the Interim Admiral or the replacement of the Admiral from from uh, I think his name was Cassius or something from Admiral Noble or whatever That still plays out the same I will say that during the training
00:55:25
Speaker
nemesis little gauntlet shit because like Let's say they talk a real quick thing about about edge alignment with swords and the training with swords because that's very important and Then she does her little demonstration thing and people ask to say wow, how are you so like? Consistent with that. It's like these gauntlets of mine. They have the memories of my ancestors I'm using them to avenge them to avenge my my child my daughter because keep that in god damn it. I
00:55:44
Speaker
is when it comes out of a
00:55:57
Speaker
And then. I don't know like. This is so fucking hard it's so it's so like. It's so difficult.
00:56:17
Speaker
But either way, um, yeah, they get a a month training and throughout that training is where you organically kind of like Do some exposition like all that all the all the farmers are differently curious about this people So there will be it makes more sense that the farmers ask about these saviors quote unquote of them of theirs and the saviors give them some details about their backstory and
00:56:45
Speaker
and why they're so fucking badass and all that shit that's better than like three days and then they're like wow we love you guys sit around a table sit around a table exposition dump so bad
00:57:00
Speaker
Confess your sins yeah, so I just want all these backstories organically come out with Mila Titus Titus can can Yeah, he already he had he had a backstory that he gave and stuff tart doesn't exist Mila doesn't need any of that. She's just be like, yeah, the blood No, she's back in she's back
00:57:27
Speaker
I think I don't know Mila doesn't need to exist. Nevermind. Fuck it. She's gone And I will say that at the end of the first one when they kill noble They they also did not destroy the the Thing that stays the same. I don't know why I'm doing this. Yeah, they didn't destroy the the Emperor's gaze right now It's called the Dragon King's gaze King's gaze. They did not destroy it stupid name considered to have an Emperor. I
00:57:52
Speaker
Mm-hmm, and that also gives time for Cora and Gunner to have some actual like romancey shit You know kind of stuff Make her a little bit more stoic as well keep her more stoic that then not not sad girl Cora and I will say that James Jimmy kind of like pops into town every now and again Just to like check on the girl and that soldier boy kid
00:58:23
Speaker
Mm-hmm cuz I feel that Jimmy still like cares about them in some way Jimmy's awesome I'll say also the Jimmy kind of like imprinted a little bit of like the what's her face Misa onto this little girl this girl Misa oh and then
Plot Twists and Climax Proposals
00:58:52
Speaker
When they have all preparations made and Jimmy's off in a mountain, which is watching things happening. You see Jimmy out there. And then when the ship finally comes out of like hyperspace or just becomes orbit around the moon, it is not the king's gaze. It is not the dreadnought.
00:59:18
Speaker
It is whatever the fucking name of Belisarius' Dreadnought is. And Korra and Titus point that out. That that is the big bad evil guy up in that ship right now. Oh, damn. It's Belisarius up there. I predicted yours by accident. I'm sorry. You predicted mine?
00:59:43
Speaker
Yeah, because I was just saying, like, why doesn't he just show up himself to make sure they're all dead? Yeah. Yeah. So it's Belisarius, and because it's Belisarius, they have a lot more resources than what Novo would have had. So basically, Belisarius and his army just raffle stomps them.
01:00:13
Speaker
And in the fighting, Mila... Mila doesn't exist, you said. Or does she? I'm confused. I forget if she exists. No, she doesn't exist. She doesn't exist. In the fighting, Titus and Titus dies. So you make the black guy die first, huh?
01:00:37
Speaker
Shut up. Um, I, I, I don't again, I don't want to kill fucking, uh, nemesis. And yeah, keep tight or keep to rock just so you can kill him. I could, I could just, I could include, Oh, you know what? Yeah, let's, let's keep to rock with his eight lines and shit.
01:01:02
Speaker
Also, I will change his backstory that he's not from a fucking gothic place. He is from he's like He's like a cone in the barbarian kind of Prince kind of shit. Well, that's cool, right? That's where his plan is from. That's where that's where he's from And Mila can be in there also for cannon fodder
01:01:21
Speaker
Right? So, Belisarius pops in, drops all his troops in tanks and things, and they just ruffle stomp, literally murders almost all of the villagers. Tarak and Mila are murdered, are killed in dramatic slow-mo fashions.
01:01:40
Speaker
Cora exist For cannon fodder made us back for cannon fodder me look back into existence just a killer off and it's rock as well Can they can they die in each other's loving embrace? Yes, they can. Thank you Yes, they will die together as they try to take down that one tank and then there's just like 50 billion more tanks And then this is this is where uh this this ruffle stomp happens and Jimmy's like I
01:02:11
Speaker
shit uh i'm just gonna say the person i care about so jimmy goes down and basically like forces the girl to come with her come with him and soldier boy follows with them right i call him soldier boy his name is aris aris okay soldier boy from yeah the boys i think a soldier boy from you know the rapper real life
01:02:39
Speaker
Yeah, but I think about that time our friend played a D&D character whose backstory was that he was literally Soulja Boy who got teleported into, or got isekai'd into a D&D world. As a god. As a god and was so full of himself he was a war, a divine warlock. Of himself. Of himself.
01:03:02
Speaker
He was his own patron? Yes. He was his own patron, yes. And you, Ed, you played a cleric of Soulja Boy. You don't remember. Oh, shit! Yeah. Yeah, that was my birthday. Yeah, I remember now. Yeah. Lamp Moth's Bane. Lamp Moth's Bane, yeah. I feel like I did it perfectly by accident where I gave you guys such a serious scenario and you guys just kind of, it's always sunnied your way into success. Literally. Um, anyways, back on track. So.
01:03:32
Speaker
So I'm going to pull Tarak and Mila out of back from existence. They get introduced in not a lot. Basically the same way as in the first one. Only they die in each other's embrace.
01:03:46
Speaker
Well below stars raffle slumps everybody literally almost all the villagers die Jimmy goes down and saves the girl and Eris comes with them because Jimmy's like you you will die if you stay here and they kind of like Hide in a place where they can still see but they couldn't really get too far away so they kind of hide in a place where they can still see stuff that's going on and Eventually, this this is when Cora basically says like we surrender We're done like please stop
01:04:16
Speaker
And Bilasarius honors the surrender and stops the massacre and then he comes down in his drop ship to talk. Right? Geneva suggestions time! War crimes! War crimes! No, no, and there's no orbital bombardment either.
01:04:37
Speaker
Not no threat of that. It's just it's it's just like too many too many tanks and like helicopters There was a name for the thing by the way if you watch the subtitles the or the railgun has a name It was a really badass name in the subtitles. I can't remember what the fuck it was Anyways, Bella Cyrus comes down in his dropship. He gets dropped down and
01:04:59
Speaker
And he's talking to Cora, like it's Cora, Gunner, Titus, uh, and Nemesis out there all pretty beat up. Oh yeah. Nemesis gets some cool fucking scenes where she easily dismantles three sword boys. Um, and then she turns to the camera and says, I can't die to these smokes. They're faceless and they're coming at me one at a time.
01:05:19
Speaker
Yeah. Belisarius and Korra have this like talk and Belisarius was like, you were such a good soldier and all of this and I truly did love you and you broke my heart kind of shit, right? Is he still, uh, force her to be the fall guy? Force who? Korra? Uh, no. This is what happens. Belisarius says that. How do I, how do I set this up? I want to set it up in a good way. Okay.
01:05:47
Speaker
And I had it or I had the thing, but I'd never quite put put up the set up in a great way. So I will say, what? Fuck it, we'll do it live. Yeah, I will say that during the conversation, Gunner kind of like steps up and starts, you know, bring up some good points and shit. And below sources walks up to him and then just like grabs him and forces him down to his knees. Right.
01:06:18
Speaker
And he takes like two paces away, pulls out his gun and points it at Gunner. And he's like, this is what I do to Traitor's rat. This is what I can do. And he looks at Cora and says, by the way, he says still alive and without missing a beat shoots and kills Gunner right there.
01:06:41
Speaker
with Cora screaming going, yeah. And when this happens, right, right after that gunshot and the screaming and ugly crying of Cora, Ari Aster will have to come in and direct her how to cry because he does it so well. He makes the crying so well with all those movies. Okay.
01:07:05
Speaker
And that's when the blood axes show up at the end there to kind of like, you know, at least at least give them time so that they can retreat, get into Cora's ship and kind of like glide it over to my size and go into hiding basically a mouse icily. But Ed, that feels so incomplete. It feels like half a movie. Mm hmm.
Casting and Director Suggestions
01:07:30
Speaker
And when Belisario says that Isa is still alive, Jimmy hears that as well. And as they leave Jimmy, we cut to Jimmy walking with the girl and Eris.
01:07:50
Speaker
And Jimmy just kind of stops and thinks about what he just heard. Issa is still alive. And he has his two little blue eyes, and then all the other eyes that he has turn on and they're red. And that's where the movie ends. Also- That feels like half a movie, Ed. Yeah, it is. Huh. What? Who'd have thunk? Who'd have thunk what? But it feels incomplete. It feels like half a movie. I feel like I should give it a lower rating because of that.
01:08:21
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There is a resolution, is the thing. There is at least a little bit of resolution in this. Oh, it was like Spider-Verse where it was a little bit of resolution. There was no- Okay. Do you remember how Dune Part 1 ended? Hey Ed, do you remember how Gwen got her resolution with her father?
01:08:42
Speaker
Do you remember? Do you just watch Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning? No. And that's how you do a halfway ending. They're not even turning it a halfway anyway. Anyways. It is. It is. It's gonna be conti- Just shut the fuck up. Alright? Yeah. Across the Spider-Verse, had a terrible halfway point ending, okay? This one at least has some resolution. They, like, because the point of it was, you know, defend the town, they get ruffle stomped, and they have to run away.
01:09:13
Speaker
All right? Yeah, I know. I'm just... Sorry, give me a minute. I didn't think that's actually triggered you, Jesus Christ. Because my ending will not... I will not be scorned and told that my ending is as bad as across the Spider-versus. I suck at pee pee.
01:09:46
Speaker
Just funny. I went zero to a hundred. I have never seen you. I've been trying to get a reaction like value in this entire podcast. I have cheese. Do not compare my mind to Snyder's bullshit or Snyder, not Snyder to fucking whoever, whoever did the cross the spider verse or what Lord and Miller.
01:10:09
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Yeah, fuck them or him. No, no, it's two dudes. Two dudes. Yes. They did it. They did a bad. They did a real bad with that ending. Okay. They did a real fucking bad piece of shit who kept overworking the animators. Yeah, no, for sure. You can give Lord a piece of shit.
01:10:28
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Yeah, they did a bad with that ending. Also, it's terrible ending terrible half cut like halfway point for a movie. It was as fast X is ending. Okay, and I will I will die on that Hill.
01:10:43
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Okay, can I be real? Can I be real? The ending was good. You did a good ending. I was just giving you shit. Yeah, no, that was Hector's shit giving voice. Yeah. And honestly, I wanted I wanted this movie to be bad for the characters because, you know, that's a good thing because they kind of did a good they did. They had a small victory in the first one, and they should get Raffles dumped in this one. Tenet Bellassar is more of a like fucking villain.
01:11:13
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Hey guys, can I give my stupid prediction for part 3? What? Time skip, few years in the future. You know that blonde little boy that got really close to Nemesis? He's gonna have the middle arms. To avenge her.
01:11:24
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But he doesn't have her family blood. But ancestor, but if he's adopted, because in a sense adopted. But was he adopted though? She just saved his life. Yeah, but she was close to him, so who knows. She was close, but I wouldn't say that. I'm not saying this is a good idea. I'm just saying I can totally see what's happening. I will say that like, that like, for Nemesis, when when Belisaurus says that East is still alive, that she kind of like imprints like, oh, to avenge my daughter, I have to save her kind of stuff.
01:11:54
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Yeah, because Isa represents the end of Motherworld's fascism. It's the beginning of Motherworld's fascism. No, the end. Oh, yeah. The king's gaze was supposed to be the last dreadnought. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah, I want Gunnery gets a better death also. And then we trade Turok for nemesis for deaths as well. And Mila.
01:12:25
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As much as I do like the ship that isn't equal the two of them I'd say like combined equal nemesis death.
01:12:36
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And, yeah, they go to the Mos Eisley thing and they kind of like hide out there for a little bit. And how I would start the third movie is that Bolasaurus just shows up at Mos Eisley. And then they find another smuggler to get them out of there. Kai's brother, bye. Dan Cholo. No, and it's going to be Charlton Copley. Wait, Cholo is an actual gang term, never mind. Yeah.
01:13:05
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Chrollo there we go Yeah, what it's gonna be like a wookie, but like bald oh? Charlton Copley's sidekick just know to just dress someone up in the cats No, dude what they should do is it should be Charlton Copley, and then his his sidekick is a prawn from Tristan
01:13:33
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Yeah, and yeah, that's those are my fixes. So yeah, problem in part two, Skargiver, give it a shot. It's really bad. It's so dumb. I feel people who listen to this have already seen it. Let's be real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I guess. Yeah. I feel like you don't have to watch it, though, because like,
01:13:55
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There's better things to do with your time. Yeah, like the fallout show. Like the fallout show. Or what is another better use of your time? You can break every toe of yours with a hammer. Better use your time. Manually give yourself paper cuts. In between the webbing on your fingers. Yes, to access the multiverse. Yeah. Yeah. But then you still find a multiverse where you did watch Rebel Moon part two. Damn it. That's better, but it's better.
01:14:23
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It was not Zack Snyder, it was Rian Johnson. I don't think he would, but it would probably turn out better. It probably would also, yeah. He would probably do a better job with it. A Peter Jackson rebel moon. Nope. That's just Lord of the Rings with like alternate steps. Yeah, that's Lord of the Rings in space. Yeah, I'm not hating on it. No, I'm not hating on either. I have a Lord of the Rings tattoo.
01:14:53
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Right, wait. Quentin Tarantino's 10th movie. So many feet. There's gonna be an alien that's just a woman. Yes! I was thinking the same thing. Isn't that the Spy Kids monster? No, they're all thumbs. Oh, get, get, get, what's his face? The Rodriguez. Oh yeah. Get him to do Rebel Moon. I would actually watch that.
01:15:18
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Make it like, because he can do the art. Danny Trejo is as Bilisarius. I would fuck with that so hard though. And then he would die in a glorious explosion. I would, I would fuck with that so hard though. Like Robert Rodriguez. Or I feel like Danny Trejo could portray a wide variety of emotions. I nominate, we cast him as Korra. Um, you know, it'd be, it'd be a great Bilisarius.
01:15:47
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And the Robert Rodriguez movie? Ralph Fiennes. Yes! Oh man. He would just be playing the same character as this, but hey. He would just be doing Voldemort again. He'd be doing the menu again. Yeah, like all of the lines. He's a villain. Yeah, he's a good villain, is the thing. He also plays a main butler in the Batman movie, Lego Batman.
01:16:10
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Oh, yeah, I like because I was thinking John Carlos was he though, but he is he is much more of a subtle Kind of threatening. I won't I would make him I want well finds to be more punk edge runners and John Carlo and he's not really subtle Wait, who's John Carlin? He's a fixer that betrays him the three I did. Yeah, he's a fixer That's John Carlo. Yeah in English one. Yeah
01:16:38
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Adam Smasher, what are you doing? Go kill them. Who the fuck are you? Yeah. I love that. Anyway, so wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Now I'm getting to the theoretical now. If it's Robert Rodriguez and we're getting Ralph Fiennes as a villain, Ralph Fiennes would do it. Or Danny Trejo. Uh, actually I'd want Danny Trejo to be, uh, Titus. Yes. Thank you. Marry me. Done. Uh, yes. Okay.
01:17:08
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Diego Luna did pretty good as Gunnar. I'd keep him. He was a brick wall. I did not like it. Diego Luna? Yeah, that's Diego Luna. Wait, in- That's Diego Luna. In- That's Gunnar? Yeah. No, he's not. He's too- No way. Is that his name? Diego Luna's- I trusted you, Ed! Diego Luna's Andor! Oh, that's right. Whoopsie.
01:17:35
Speaker
Diego Luna's name is Andor. No, I'd make him be like fucking Kai. That's Charlie Hunnam. Charlie Hunnam. Michael Hooseman. That's Gunnar. Michael Hooseman's fine. No, I just want it for people I'd like. Um, who do you replace as Korra? Uh, the girl from Fallout, Ellie, what's her face?
01:17:57
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Okay, I haven't seen fallout yet. Um, I know she's too she's too innocent looking actually I could work I was gonna say Don't say honor Taylor joy You were Damn it. She's got better emotions guys Florence pew. Yes
01:18:18
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Yes. Lawrence Pugh could work. Lawrence Pugh could absolutely work. No, there's another one I really like. I haven't seen her in a lot of stuff. You know what? I'm going to say a really wild one, and I want you to just bear with me. Kiki Palmer. Yep. Yeah, I can see it. 100%. She's done NOPE. So like she has the range. Also like that VP show, like something Jackson VP. True Jackson VP. True Jackson VP. She's got the range. She has the range. So that's mine.
01:18:48
Speaker
Okay, yeah, no, I'm fucking with Kiki Palmer. Robert Rodriguez, though, I feel like he could do it. Uh-huh. I feel like he can bring his, like, campiness into it and it would fit perfectly. Hell, he directed Star Wars. He did all of Book of Boba Fett, which I know people don't like as much.
01:19:05
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but like if he does his own world there's some episodes that are really bad in both of it but there's some episodes but he also did some really good ones in uh mando uh keep what's her fate whoever's playing nemesis she did brilliant she did great no lover the guy who played abe sapien in hellboy should be tarak and make him yeah you're in tarak yes yeah he would have a
01:19:29
Speaker
You know, be another good person to direct this game with Doro. He's not into it. Oh, man. Oh, that's right. Here. The shape of water, though. So I already did the job in one movie. Yeah. I got him mixed up. Now. Now remember, it's Charlie Hunnam because that's the guy. Please. I think he plays Darien Harris. No, it's it's not Charlie Hunnam. Charlie Hunnam plays Kai, the guy. But the guy who plays Gunnar is. Yeah. In a Harris is Darien Harris. Yeah. All right. So that's your recommendation. Fallout, right?
01:19:57
Speaker
Fallout yeah, but I will say I will say just one other thing that like just not not a recommendation But I finally saw Jackie Brown and deathproof the last two Tarantino films I had to do I had to watch I needed to watch So T to F time to foot in in Jackie Brown is about five minutes three four minutes something like that time to foot in
01:20:27
Speaker
in deathproof is literally the first active frame after the the like title cards and logo cards and all that literally the first active frame. That's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Ruthie, what's your shit? Um, we do you want color or do you want monkey man? Uh, did we do monkey man last episode? I don't
Film and Game Reviews
01:20:50
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remember. I wasn't gonna do it, but he can do both if you want. He can do both. I got my monkey man's good.
01:20:56
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Yeah, Monkey Man is crazy good. I expected it to be like Indian John Wick. It's not, it's better. Go watch it, it's really good. Brush up on current Indian politics a little bit, at least what Modi's government's been doing.
01:21:09
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I don't think you have to, though, because it makes it better. It makes it better. But like peripherally, I'm aware of this stuff. Not a lot of like the details, but I was able to pick up what was going on. It was it's really bad movie. You should just watch it. Yeah, I was not aware of any of it. And I still enjoyed the political aspect of the movie. It only made it better once I found out that it's real.
01:21:32
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Yeah. And we also saw the show Conan O'Brien Must Go. It's also very good, very funny, very different tonally to Monkey Man. Don't watch those back to back. My humor and trolling comes back whenever I watch anything Conan, as you saw with me ripping just
01:21:51
Speaker
No, systematically destroying it. Yesterday, I literally huffed beer up my nose, because I was laughing so hard. Oh, yeah, that scene. My two ones are video games this week. Final Fantasy 16 released. And nerd. Their final deals. How many times have you repeated your recs?
01:22:23
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A lot. Rex? You've repeated the same recommendation like three episodes in a row. Oh yeah, yeah. So Final Fantasy 16 released their final DLC. They kind of lied about one part. They said this character is going to be really important because she wasn't that important in the main game. They gave her like three lines.
01:22:45
Speaker
That part stung, but it is so much fun. Jesus Christ. They have this one boss. I don't want to spoil. It's around near the end of it and it is amazing. But yeah, get both DLC. Get the season passed. Treat yourself. And my second one is a friend of mine bought me seafood as just a why not kind of gift and like.
01:23:07
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It's been the only thing to really scratch the Sekiro itch. It is amazing. It's not better than Sekiro, but it almost is. It's a lot more challenging for sure, and you really gotta really get the game's mechanics. It's so much fun. If you like tough games, get yourself Sifu. It's good. All right. Ruthie, it's now time for you to finish the punishment game.
01:23:35
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What movie are you going to make Ed and I watch, but mainly for Ed? Power Rangers. Oh, you're going to do Puerto Ricans in Paris? Oh, yeah, let's do Puerto Ricans in Paris. It's going to be so dumb. Wait, what? We found a new one. It's Puerto Ricans in Paris.
01:23:51
Speaker
What is this? It's a 2015 movie starring Luis Guzman and Eddie Garcia. Who are both Puerto Ricans? They're both Puerto Ricans and it's a buddy cop movie where the two of them are trying to solve fashion crimes in Paris. And it is a 30% Rotten Tomatoes. 36%? I found it by... I don't even know how I found it.
01:24:15
Speaker
But I told Ruthie about it. No, we were looking up Luis Guzman's filmography and I didn't know what he looked like. Yeah, because I mentioned him in Community, which was the Streets Ahead reference. Dude, I'm going to watch this with my parents. Can I watch it with you and your parents? There's Aria Dawson's in the movie. Yeah, she's probably going to be one of their love interests.
01:24:39
Speaker
Were we getting the three- Are we getting the Challenger 3- some kind of thing going here? I mean, Zoolander did it, but I doubt this movie has the chutzpah to do it. Zoolander had a threesome? Yeah. I haven't seen Zoolander. Do you want to watch Zoolander? I mean, maybe there's- But why male models? I saw up until the- until the gasoline fight scene. Same, same. And then I had to go, What is this? A center for ants? It needs to be at least three times bigger than this.
01:25:10
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Right, idiot. Did you hear recently Ben Stiller was talking about something and he was just like, yeah, I can't believe Zoolander 2 failed. I was like seeply depressed about it. And I'm like, no one asked for this.
01:25:25
Speaker
So that but why male models thing is so funny. He forgot his lines. He just repeated the last line he remembered. But why male models and the other guys like, are you serious? I literally just told you like 30 seconds ago. Yeah. All right. All right. So join us next time for Puerto Ricans in Paris. Watch as I divorce Ruthie live on air.
01:25:55
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for this movie. Man, you really want that? Nah, I'm not gonna make that joke. Yep. Join us next time. Join us next time. Bye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Today's film was Rebel Moon Part 2, The Scar-Giver, directed by Zack Snyder. The writers were Zack Snyder, Kurt Johnston, and Shay Hatton. And the cinematographer was Zack Snyder.
01:26:24
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Go show some love to their various social media accounts. They've made a movie, which is more than we can say here. Join us next time for Puerto Ricans in Paris.