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Watch Out Roman!!! Summerslam Build Up, RIP Harley Race, and Slim Jim Macho Man Finally Arrives!
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Sheena and Phil discuss the buildup to Summerslam, Phil talks about why he didn't watch RAW or Smackdown this week, and the gang discusses their Slim Jim Macho Man figures finally arriving.
Patreon link: www.patreon.com/chickfoleyshow
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Transcript
Introduction and Host Details
00:00:20
Speaker
Less than two weeks away from SummerSlam, we are listening to the Chick Foley show.
00:00:27
Speaker
Oh man. We are so close to pumpkin beers. It's almost fall. I don't know if I'm happy or sad about that. I am the hot take kid Phil Gentile here in the Jimmy's famous seafood studios. And thank you for having us in your car or in your home or wherever you're listening to us. I am joined by the lovely Sheena Phelps. She is out and she used to be out in Hawaii. Now she's in Virginia. How you doing Sheena?
00:00:55
Speaker
I'm pretty good man, kicking it here. It's almost 10 o'clock at night as we're recording this. It's gonna be a late night for this mom. We got a lot of stuff to talk
Wrestling Highlights of the Week
00:01:07
Speaker
about. We actually had a really good week of wrestling. I cannot remember the last time that you and I have gotten together to record this show and we've been kind of excited to talk about Raw and SmackDown.
00:01:17
Speaker
Probably wasn't the best week for me not to watch Ron Smackdown, was it? Oh, my God. Tell me you watched Ron Smackdown. You've got to walk me through this. No, I have had the week from hell between work and other family commitments and stuff. So I did catch a bunch of highlights and stuff on YouTube and all over social media so I can keep up. But just full disclosure, I'm not going to fake it.
00:01:39
Speaker
I haven't watched Raw or SmackDown or Smackville, which we'll get into. So you're gonna be carrying the load here in the first half of the show. Oh my gosh, yeah, you definitely picked a bad week. Creative is actually doing their jobs right for a change. It's been interesting, it's been fun, it's been exciting. There's been some holy shit moments. But thankfully, we have the intern Marco Denton here with us. I know Marco watched Raw and SmackDown. So if I need to call in for backup, I know I got my band, Marco. There you go, nice.
00:02:08
Speaker
Yeah, we want to give a shout out to our our friends over the our vantage point podcast They gave us a shout out on their show this week. We've been singing their praises if you'd like old-school 80s 90s just ridiculousness I've got Marco onto this podcast. She is gonna start listening and
00:02:26
Speaker
It's definitely a good listen. They come out every single Monday. They do like a weekly kind of countdown. Right now they just finished up the top 10 and worst 10 intercontinental champions of all time. And then they kind of go into the vault and look at some old wrestling stuff. This last week, Sheena, they recapped a episode of Sinbad that Bret Hart was on. I don't even remember this show at all. But it was like I was driving and I was in like tears listening to these guys.
00:02:54
Speaker
recap this awful episode of this 90s like action TV show oh my you don't remember the Sinbad show no or you don't or you don't remember when Brett was on the Sinbad show I don't neither of those things I remember like Xena and all those shows but I don't know I can't even picture it in my head I remember he was on Lonesome Dove I remember that being on like WWF magazine and all that stuff
00:03:14
Speaker
Yeah, I don't remember Brett being on Sinbad, but I remember the Sinbad show. It wasn't like something that I watched all the time, but it's funny. Like I can't believe you can't, like you don't remember. I just remember him having a show. Um, but I'm so excited to, to listen to our vantage point and, uh,
00:03:30
Speaker
Like I'm always up for new pods, man. That's all I do all day long. Like with the baby face here, it's like, you know, you're, I need something, some kind of adult interaction throughout the day. So I feel like I have like my podcast friends. So I'm always looking for new, for new pod subscriptions. So thanks for the recommendation. I'm super stoked.
Community and Exclusive Offerings
00:03:46
Speaker
Speaking of subscriptions, check us out over at patreon.com slash Chick Foley show. You like that transition, Sheena? That was beautiful. You're a pro. A couple days ago, myself and Sheena and Mike Lana recorded our history of WWE Mattel retro's episode. Hopefully we haven't seen the final chapter of those figures. But if we have the three of us recap the first 10
00:04:12
Speaker
series of that of that line and we talked about our fantasy figures if they do start coming out again some ones that were never released it was a pretty fun show it was like an hour and 15 minutes so we have about seven or eight patreon episodes in the can that you can go back and listen to we have some unboxing videos some articles on the patreon page so a bunch of cool stuff sheena
00:04:33
Speaker
Yeah, and I think what's really cool is, like I said, our Facebook community, that's a huge, huge part of what we do with our Patreons. It's super fun. I feel like we can all connect there and it feels very personal. And I just, I love our little Facebook fam that we have going on. So yeah, if you check us out over at Patreon and become a subscriber and become part of our VIP Foley fam, you'll definitely get to participate in that. And we talk a lot of, we talk a lot of shit over there and it's a lot of fun.
00:04:59
Speaker
We do, we talk figures, we talk wrestling, all kinds of stuff. We got to shout out our sponsors, Ringsign Collectibles. A lot of hotness up on their website lately. They're doing a SummerSlam sale right now. The code is Chick Foley for 10% off there. They already have pre-orders up for
00:05:16
Speaker
Elite 71, and we haven't seen 67 in the stores, so I need figures. That is the place to go. Chalkline is your retailer for any kind of WWE and non-WD apparel. It's a great website. You need to check out its code CHICK for 15% off there.
00:05:34
Speaker
Oh my gosh, let me jump in really quickly. They have a summer slam collection that's coming out right before summer slam. So I think, let me grab the dates really quickly for when it drops because you won't want to miss it because their stuff always, always sells out like super
Merchandise and Deals
00:05:48
Speaker
quickly. But they have, they're doing a super a summer slam store and they're going to be doing all their drops that weekend. And it's going to, I mean, dude, there's some Bret Hart like sweatsuits and they are so freaking mage.
00:06:01
Speaker
Um, so yeah, August 9th through the 11th is when the WWE shop will open their summer slam super store at summer slam. So if you're at summer slam, child climb merchandise will be there. Um, if not, chocolate is going to drop everything online and you need to be like ready at your computer to grab the hotness cause it'll sell out in your size guaranteed. So definitely go to their Instagram and check out what they got coming out.
00:06:22
Speaker
Yeah, you've described it perfectly, but even more perfectly is all you need to know is the Brett the Hitman heart pants. It's like a tracksuit pants that are basically, you know, just look like his outfits from when he wore to the ring.
00:06:39
Speaker
You know, it's yeah, it's his entrance. Yeah, it's his entrance pants. This guy, Jamie, Jamie, oh, Veen or something like that. Sorry if I totally botched that name. I'm trying to remember who it was, but he created these entrance pants for chalk line. And yeah, he freaking nailed it. Like they're only thing that make them a little bit better if they had a little bit of paint splutter. But listen, I'm not going to, I'm not going to complain, you know?
00:06:58
Speaker
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Potential WWE Network Changes
00:07:06
Speaker
CHICK. And you can find our shirts, our Chick Foley show swag over at prowrestlingtees.com. So let's get into our raw recap. And I'm interested to hear, I mean, I've seen bits and pieces of this. I know the show started off with that 24-7 title.
00:07:22
Speaker
Actually, let's back up for a second. We had a Patreon episode, myself and Sheena, where we kind of talked about some ways to fix the WWE Network, Sheena. And just this week, one of our Patreon subscribers on Facebook said they got an email from the network about some things that they're going to add. They're going to put some tiers onto the network with some higher pricing, with some lower pricing. Let's talk on that real quick, because we had touched on that on our show. And they basically, they added some things that I don't think we even thought about, which is pretty cool.
00:07:53
Speaker
yeah you know i mean they had mentioned even like yeah i think it was like even like last year they had mentioned tiered pricing um but it's really become something that i think is going to become a reality here in the next um the next several months especially with like the fox deal and all that stuff i could really see this this coming into play they just gave the network an interface overhaul um it looks really nice i know there's some people out there that are still having bugs but i mean
00:08:15
Speaker
Anytime you download a new iOS or any time you get a new interface on something, you can expect there to be glitches and bugs and things like that. But they're going to patch it all up. Everything will be good to go. But I do like the way it looks. I think it looks a lot more professional. But they're going to be adding some, supposedly they're supposed to be adding some tiers. So you're going to have a $14.99 tier that's going to get you
00:08:38
Speaker
you know, basically like add free content, you're going to get access to everything that you have now. So here's the thing, for the people who have the $9.99 WWE network, like nothing changes for you. So if you love what you're getting now and you don't feel like you need more, like, cool, like you absolutely like nothing's going to change for you. And I think that's what's really cool. They didn't take anything away from what the subscribers are already getting.
00:09:01
Speaker
But you're gonna get downloadable content, so you're gonna be able to download content, which is super cool. I've been waiting and waiting for that all those times on the airplane when I had eight-hour flights, and I was like, oh my god, I wish I had something to watch. You're gonna be able to download content now, which is super cool. And then what else? Oh, the fan perks. You're gonna get, supposedly based on this survey that they gave out during Mania weekend,
00:09:27
Speaker
They're gonna offer fans hall of fame voting um early event ticket access um offline content download like i just mentioned and then like a small group online chat community and we kind of talked about that about having like you know like how xbox has you know their online interface with like chatting and stuff like that which and obviously playstation too but you know we're uh we're xbox people over here but um
00:09:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's really cool how they're trying to create an online community and then the deluxe fan perks that you get with the $14.99 second screen content and then invites to exclusive in-person VIP meetups and stuff like that. So that is really super cool.
00:10:03
Speaker
The biggest one that I like on here is access to TNA and Ring of Honor. I know they've bought some of those libraries because with the addition of AJ Styles and Sting and to show kind of their entire career, they've had to use some of that content. So I've never really watched TNA or Ring of Honor besides here and there, but I would love to. Having that on the network would be a huge bonus for them. And then also for subscribers, I would pay
00:10:31
Speaker
I would probably check it out. I don't know if I would run with that $14.99 for forever, but I would definitely jump up to that for a couple months and check out some old T and A paper views, especially being a Kurt Angle fan.
00:10:42
Speaker
Yeah, you know, I heard a lot of people like, um, you know, there was, there was mixed reviews when I posted it on chick fully. Like some people were like, Oh my God, this is amazing. You know, I would love this. Like I'm totally going to do 1499. And some people were like, you know, I, I don't even like paying 9.99 and you know, I think 9.99 is enough or it's too much. And in my personal opinion, like I'm not trying to be in anybody's pocketbook. I don't know what anybody's finances are, but I'm telling you right now, the product that they give you with the WWE network is like,
00:11:12
Speaker
far, worth far more than $9.99 a month. You know what I mean? Like they have been giving you a freaking bargain and the fact that like you feel like you're getting, like you're paying too much. I don't know. Like I don't know where the disconnect all of a sudden came. I'm like, dude, we used to pay like
00:11:28
Speaker
30-40 bucks for a single pay-per-view. You know what I mean? And now we get everything plus all the bonus content plus all the freaking plus NXT. NXT alone to me is worth $9.99 a month. You know what I mean? If I could only watch NXT, I would pay $10 a month for it.
00:11:46
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I would pay $10 a month for not even the pay-per-views. If WWE Network was just where I could see all the old pay-per-views and old episodes of Superstars and Raw and stuff, I would pay $10 for that. And they also add that $5 tier where you can get the limited commercials, and it's only on a phone and tablet, but you get the big four pay-per-views. I'm worried about the commercials.
00:12:09
Speaker
Right now, do we have no commercials? Because we have those tap out commercials and we have ads for 205 Live. Does that count as commercials? Because right now with this new plan, it looks like they're adding limited commercials on the 999 plan. I don't know, we just need clarification if what we have now is commercials or if they're going to add some Snickers commercials or something.
00:12:28
Speaker
I would say what we have now is limited ads. You know what I mean? Like you said, like the tap out and the stuff like that I think is considered ads. But I mean, even if they threw in like a Snickers ad here and there, you know, like.
00:12:41
Speaker
It's whatever, you know what I mean? I feel like we live in a culture now where we're so used to that. I have YouTube ads. Anytime you go to watch a YouTube video, there's going to be an ad. I mean, unless you're not like me, I have free YouTube. I don't have YouTube gold standard or whatever all the bougie YouTubers use. But yeah, I have ads. It's just like something you're just used to it, right? So I don't think that's a big deal. But I do think upgrading to $14.99 and having no ads, that's a pretty cool perk.
00:13:10
Speaker
the the
00:13:28
Speaker
So yeah, I would love to have that added into that plan. But I think this is cool. I think this will be good. And I think people will probably jump up to that $14.99 and give someone a cheaper option. So it's covering all your bases. But people love to complain. So I'm sure people were complaining about this. Oh, yeah. I saw one person. I don't think he was trying to be rude. But he was just kind of like, oh, they're just trying to fund their football league. And I'm like, at the end of the day,
00:13:56
Speaker
WWE is a business, you know what I mean? They're not a charity. If they have a project that they're looking to fund or they're trying to make more money, guess what's going to happen to the product that they give to you that you use every month? They're going to increase the price of it, you know what I mean? And they're not just increasing the price, they're offering you more
00:14:14
Speaker
a better product for the price so it's not like they're just being like okay well we're not gonna give you anything else and we're gonna jack it up to $14.99 they're giving you a better product and then he was kind of like yeah I know I'm just complaining I'm like okay well at least you can admit that you're just complaining you know so
00:14:30
Speaker
Anyway, I'm excited. I hope it rolls out sometime this year. I would be really, really excited to see what the changes are and what they actually have as far as those old content libraries. Because like you mentioned, I think it would be really cool for a lot of those guys. WWE is like the master at making video packages, right? Just think if they had these guys
00:14:49
Speaker
like AJ Styles and Kurt Angle and their full career libraries, what they could freaking do when they're making their video packages and Hall of Fame packages and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, super stoked for that.
Tribute to Harley Race
00:15:03
Speaker
And that was pretty much
00:15:05
Speaker
all that was in the twitterverse going on and we do have to i can't believe we didn't we didn't start the show with this unfortunately we heard today that harley race did pass away yeah it's just you know he is he was diagnosed with terminal cancer and unfortunately you know
00:15:24
Speaker
due to complications to that cancer, he did pass away. So just a freaking legend in the business. I mean, there's really no other way to put it. And we're gonna talk about him a little bit more on our wrestling recommendation, our retro wrestling recommendation of the week, but I could not start the show without at least paying respects to such a legend in the business.
00:15:44
Speaker
For sure, yeah, we have some stuff on him later on. But I'm a little bit, we're a little bit younger. I remember him as being the manager of Vader and WCW, but he had such an amazing career from NWA, eight time world champion. He was in WWF for a while, and great career, great man. And everything I've heard about him from autograph signings and stuff like that, it was just how nice of a guy he was. So condolences to him and his family.
00:16:12
Speaker
Yeah gave us a hell of an action figure too. Yeah hard to hard to find i'm sure that thing's going up in value now Yeah for sure. It was already hard to find and now it's really gonna be it's really gonna be a valuable figure but um, yeah, definitely sending out all of our all of our chick fully love to His family friends and everyone Brett Hart actually did a really a really nice tribute to him on Brett's like the man when it comes to doing like
00:16:34
Speaker
you know, tributes to people who have like passed away. Um, Brett is just so articulate and just such a great writer, like everything. He like always tugs on my heartstrings. I'm like, Oh, you know, like this is the best. So if you haven't, uh, go check out Brett Hart's Instagram. He did a really nice, um, tribute to Harley race. Very nice. Let's get into raw. I love the match between those two guys and then they fought. And then one of the guys won. What did you think about that match?
00:16:58
Speaker
Oh my gosh, yeah, you know, it was wonderful. I cannot believe it's so funny after all of the, I mean, it's been better in recent weeks, but after you suffered through the era of
00:17:10
Speaker
I know. I'm gonna go back and watch, at least Raw, for sure. I mean, actually, I'm just gonna say, it is the best episode of Raw this year.
00:17:29
Speaker
It's the frickin' Orange is the New Black, which did it, too. Because we've just been binge-watching that. And then we just fall asleep on the couch three episodes in. So then usually I would watch a show with the wife. She falls asleep in an hour. And then I pop on Raw and SmackDown. But we've had something to watch. So I will definitely catch up. And I won't let this happen again, for sure.
00:17:49
Speaker
Yeah.
WWE 24/7 Championship Chaos
00:17:50
Speaker
Um, so the 24 seven championship, yeah, they opened it and it was like a mosh pit match, I think is what they called it. So, you know, all the, all the mid carters who were chasing the 24 seven title were all around the ring, almost like a lumberjack style match. And, um, you know, they, they started the match and then there was the big scrum and everybody piled in. And long story short, Mike Kanellis comes out of the bottom of this scrum.
00:18:14
Speaker
with the 24 seven championship. You know, like Mike has been like emasculated like over the last several weeks and told he's he's a loser and not a champion and not man enough and all of these things. And he's finally, finally a champion. So I was I was kind of excited. But then I knew that that what that meant that Maria was going to come in and do something extremely cringe worthy. So my excitement was I think this is his first
00:18:42
Speaker
Title in WWE Marco. Is that right? Is this his very first title and WWE's is 24 seven championship? You know, can my canal someone a guarantee that it is? I don't think he's been round long enough for anything. So but I could be wrong, but yeah Good for him. I would love and I know what we have coming forward. I know Maria ends up winning the belt and being the first pregnant champion. Oh God
00:19:06
Speaker
um so this is where this is where it got hairy and let me tell let me say maybe like i said maybe i'm watching this through like a different lens because i'm pregnant um but it's just like oh my gosh it's like the most cringe thing and everybody else seems to enjoy it like all the articles i read and like you know i listened to some some podcasts earlier in the week and they're like oh my god it was so fun and you know it was just like very throwback and kind of like attitude i'm like
00:19:33
Speaker
You liked this? Like, how could you? How can you like this? She literally banged on the door and told him if she didn't if he didn't let her in, that she was going to kick him in his vagina. Yeah, come on. This is.
00:19:48
Speaker
And I was like, oh my gosh. She just reminds me of a vile Disney villain. You know what I mean? Something about her is very Disney villain-esque. She's one of the evil stepsisters. She's Ursula and one of the Cinderella stepsisters had a wrestling love child. And it is Maria Kanellis. And so she tells Mike to lay down. Mike lays down.
00:20:14
Speaker
puts her foot on him, gets counted out. And now she's the first pregnant champion. She goes out, like parts this like sea of mid carders, all those guys that are in the 24 seven, um, title picture and, you know, telling them, Oh, first pregnant champion. Like, what are you going to do? Fight a pregnant woman. She goes up Titus O'Neill, um, and taunts him. And it's just,
00:20:35
Speaker
Oh my gosh, it was just too much for me to watch. I was like, holy smokes. But then it did bring up an interesting point. Like, well, how are we going to get this title off of her? I would think if she goes to like the OBGYN, like, you know, maybe she did. She made sure to mention that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember hearing about that. So maybe our truth dressed up, you know, with the forceps, dressed up like a doctor or something, you know, reminiscent of the of the stone cold man segment. But
00:21:04
Speaker
I was thinking Carmela like I was thinking that exact gimmick but I was thinking Carmela was going to be the one because I feel like it would be I mean I don't know how much they're willing to push the boundaries like if Maria is gonna have her legs open and our truth is gonna be down there in the middle of them I mean you never know nowadays they are an edgier product but I was thinking it would be it would be cool to see Carmela in that because I mean God they've given it to freaking Kelly Kelly and a Lundra blaze like
00:21:31
Speaker
Carmella has been tied up in this 24-7 title picture since it started. Like give the girl a championship, you know?
00:21:41
Speaker
I would love to see Mike Kanellis give his wife a nice, long massage. Pregnant women love getting a massage. And then she falls asleep, and then he pins her and turns on her almost and says, no, I'm not Mike Kanellis. I'm Mike Bennett type of thing. Because there's no way. It would have to be a woman. If it's not her husband, it would have to be a woman to pin her if she is indeed pregnant.
00:22:09
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. And she did have a really weird interaction with Braun. She was doing her photo shoot for the 24-7 title. She backs up and then backs into Braun. Well, she's like telling Braun like, you know, oh, you know, you're big and scary, you know, I'm the momster among men.
00:22:29
Speaker
And then she then she like tells him to do something manly or that he needs to do something manly. I can't remember exactly what she said, but then he just like snarls at the camera and I wasn't really sure what that was alluding to or if I just missed something or if it went over my head. Marco, do you have any insight on that? What do you think that meant? Like, what do you think that was supposed to be? I don't know. I think I was I think they were alluding to him like protecting her, maybe.
00:22:58
Speaker
losing the title at some point the other things I've seen were like he's going he's the one that did the thing to Roman which we'll get into later that was that was one of the guys but yeah I think it was him like protecting her so like if anyone comes near her
00:23:15
Speaker
he'll attack them because he has to prove he's a man, essentially. Oh, so it's kind of like a Cersei and like Franken-Mountain type relationship. I could see that, but that's a sad place to have brawn, unfortunately. Get this fetus.
00:23:31
Speaker
Oh my God. I cannot believe we used the word fetus on this podcast. Um, but anyway, uh, we are, we're moving on from Maria and Mike. She was, she was the first pregnant champion. Um, unfortunately I was not able to capture that title. So that was perfect for the show.
00:23:50
Speaker
That was a lost, a total lost opportunity for me. Ricochet. Okay. So there was a gauntlet match and you know, if, if WWE does
Gauntlet Match Excitement
00:24:00
Speaker
anything well, it is a freaking gauntlet match and they killed it on this. I thought they did really, really well. It was Cesaro, Rey Mysterio, Sami Zayn, Andrade and Ricochet. And I thought this was like one of the highlights of the night. What about you, Marco?
00:24:22
Speaker
I think we lost Marco. Marco, yeah. From what I've read, it was kind of like a couple of those guys in there, like obviously AJ Styles now a heel. Are you really going to put another heel against them? I don't know if, you know, Sami Zayn and who else was in the Cesaro. Yeah. So, I mean, it's kind of predictable that Ricochet won, but number one, it sounded like it was a great match. I can't wait to go back and watch it. And also those guys are going to kill it on SummerSlam, even though we've seen it before. I'm excited to see it again. So.
00:24:50
Speaker
Yeah, Ray and Cesaro had a really good match and I was sad that Cesaro got throughout first because I kind of give Cesaro a hard time because I feel like people feel like he should be a main eventer and honestly, I don't feel like he's that guy. I feel like he just doesn't have the it factor like I've mentioned before.
00:25:09
Speaker
but you know he's a i mean he's an incredible wrestler i mean there's no there's no denying i mean his match with allister black i mean he has a ton of stuff that he's done in the past it's it's been amazing um but i just feel like i feel like i wish i would have seen him go a little bit longer in this in this gauntlet match but you know it ended up being it ended up being a really good
00:25:30
Speaker
A really good showing ricochet and Andrade was really really good too. Obviously, I think it was a little bit obvious that ricochet was was going to go over and then ricochet gave this like heartfelt speech at the end, you know, and it's so funny because I don't know why I just every time ricochet every time ricochet talks, I don't.
00:25:49
Speaker
anticipate that's how ricochet sounds do you know what i mean like it's like i'm every even though i've heard him talk so many times i just always feel like i'm surprised by the sound of his voice i'm like i don't know what i expect him to sound like but it's not that you know i mean god bless him he's a Kentucky boy he's he's you know like me he's got that Kentucky blood but
00:26:05
Speaker
Yeah, it's just funny. I've seen a video of him from when he first started wrestling on the Indies and he was a total wrestling nerd. He looks like he was right out of the crowd. I can't get the picture of that out of my mind. I'll have to find it and post it to the Facebook group.
00:26:23
Speaker
of the
00:26:44
Speaker
said they're having a submission match. Uh, Natalia did this really kind of like, like weird, not weird promo. Like her, her actual backstage promo was pretty good, but then she kind of got like mixed up. I don't know if she forgot what she was supposed to say or how she was supposed to say it, but she basically issued a challenge for Becky to have a submission match at, um,
00:27:08
Speaker
at summer slam right put the the sharpshooter up against the disarmer and she's like but I don't think she will accept my challenge so I'm not gonna issue it and I was like I don't think that's how that was supposed to go but essentially I essentially you know if you're reading between the lines they're
00:27:23
Speaker
and I have a submission match but they did this like um this like hard camera angle like they did a moment of bliss segment where they were showing um you know natty's in the ring learning how to get out of the disarmor and put on the sharpshooter like counter the disarmor into a sharpshooter um becky comes in puts the disarmor on her um anyway becky or becky comes or natty comes in it interferes with becky's match
00:27:47
Speaker
puts her in the sharpshooter and um you know like i said every everything's progressing from there i'm actually excited about this match i know you were not like shina come on come on really
00:27:59
Speaker
Yeah, I know you're not high on, uh, on Natty, which I don't, I don't know. I mean, I don't think it's her fault. I think WWE did a shitty job of booking her. Like they haven't done anything with her over the last couple of months. And then they put her in this spot, like, which I don't think it's, I don't think she's undeserving of. I just feel like it's, it feels a little out of place because WWE hasn't booked her in anything and forever. So then when she gets this opportunity, it's like, what, why Natty, you know, and everybody's kind of confused. And,
00:28:27
Speaker
and i know i mean let's let's be real it's in toronto um you know she's she's got canadian blood they're using her in the in the heart name to like pop the crowd um which is totally fine and to be expected but at the same time like
00:28:42
Speaker
She is a really good wrestler, you know, I mean, other than when she's trying to, every other when she's trying to do her double sharpshooter, which I absolutely hate. Um, but beyond the double sharpshooter, she is a really, really great wrestler and she's, I mean, she's one of the, the, the best that, I mean, the best that they have as far as like just technical wrestler. Um, and she's not really great, not really great on the mic, but you know, I don't think that, I don't think that has stopped WWE before from giving people a push, you know?
00:29:09
Speaker
Yeah, they've saddled her with some stupid ass shit with the cat stuff and all that kind of thing. So but she is a talented wrestler and she's a little bit of annoying on the mic, which, you know, is a good and bad thing if you're a heel or a face, depending on which day it is. But just a little bit rigid. Yeah. She just a little bit rigid on on the mic. Yeah. I mean, if Becky's going to lose this belt, though, it's going to be someone they want to put over as the next thing or someone that's going to be, you know, a top a top of this women's division for a while. It's not in town.
00:29:39
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that that is kind of the reality. You know, I was thinking to myself, does Natty have a real chance to become the Smackdown Women's champ? And like you said, I feel like they haven't done enough build. This feels like kind of like a flavor of the month type of pick. And I don't feel like Natalia is the woman at this point because of the build to dethrone to dethrone Becky. I feel like it's going to have to be a much more menacing foe to come in and stand up to her.
00:30:08
Speaker
I'm excited to see the match. I think it's going to be a great match.
Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins Feud
00:30:12
Speaker
The the biggest thing that happened on Smackdown, though, is Brock attacking Seth. I don't know if you saw the clips of this, but I did. I saw saw basically the entire beatdown, which I freaking loved.
00:30:27
Speaker
Yeah, it was really incredible. And, you know, I know, you know, me, I'm a Rollins mark. I'm always going to stand behind Rollins and I'm kind of a Rollins shill. Um, you guys know that about me. So it should come as no surprise. And I'm like, okay, cool. I'm glad Rollins is getting another universal title shot. Right. But I totally understand it from just like a, you know,
00:30:47
Speaker
non-shield aspect you're like oh my god we're getting Brock and Seth again like oh my we've seen this thing a million times but this actually put a little a little bit of excitement back into this feud I think I think this really kind of take it took it up another notch and just made me like pumped to watch it you know and
00:31:09
Speaker
Yeah, I have a tally of all these matches for Summer Sam that we'll get into a little bit. This will be the fourth pay-per-view match between these two, which is not the worst on this card. But none of those matches were really, I mean, we had the low blow at WrestleMania. I want a good like 20 minute match between these two because Lesnar gets a lot of shit. But I mean, that match against Balor was great, that match against Daniel Bryan was great. I mean, he can still go in the ring with someone who can like,
00:31:36
Speaker
5050 kelp carry it and obviously Seth can do that and I think I want to see a real 20 minute match between these two I think would be be awesome and I think hopefully this is leading to that I think we're not gonna see a schmaz finish here it's gonna be we want to put Seth back in the title picture with a legitimate win over the biggest heel in the history of this business
00:31:59
Speaker
I'm excited for this, and the beating he took was exactly what I was looking for. This beating does more than one chair shot from Ty Dillinger would ever do. This is done right, so I really like this.
00:32:15
Speaker
Yeah um honestly it was uh it was it was amazing like the the f5s onto the chair and then onto the stretcher like holy crap and even the suplexes you know what I mean like I mean how many suplexes have we seen Brock Lesnar do like a million right um but it was just like it was one of those things like you know when you're kind of watching and like gasping like when he hit that stretcher it like literally like made me gasp I was like oh my god like
00:32:41
Speaker
He could really die. Then they show this awesome shot of him with blood in his mouth. And it was just incredible. And like you said, I mean, we've seen these guys fight so many times. I think they fought more than four pay-per-views. I'm gonna need Marco to give me the stats on that. But I mean, like Battleground, WrestleMania 31, if you want. I mean, you gotta count that one, right? That's when Rollins won the WWE Championship. And then Extreme Rules, and then
00:33:11
Speaker
Oh my God. What was the, uh, the, there was a three way with John Cena. Was that John three? That was battleground, right? That was, that was a Royal Rumble. I think. No, was it Royal Rumble? No, it's not. This is what we have. This is what we have in here. Yeah. Marco's going to get us the stats on that and give us, give it to us in just a minute. But yeah, anyway, I, I'm super excited for this. I do think they're going to give him a definitive win. Um, honestly, um,
00:33:38
Speaker
Hila has been thinks it's going to be some sort of interference by Roman. But I'm like, Roman already has his own thing going on. He has a mystery opponent trying to kill him. You know what I mean? We'll get to that. As good as this angle was, that was the exact opposite. But yeah, we'll get to that. I see. I disagree with you. I think it was awesome.
00:33:54
Speaker
I loved it. Shut up. You didn't even, you had to see it in real time in the whole rest of the show. Okay. So this guy on Twitter at Garrett kidney, Garrett kidney, put together a list of, and I don't know how accurate this is. I didn't go back and check it all, but it seems like he did his research.
00:34:17
Speaker
Basically tweeted that summer slam is just a best of show replaying old matches and you can't convince me otherwise Lesnar Rollins is the fourth time they fought Becky Natalia eighth time they fought Take a guess how many times Miz and Ziggler have fought I don't know if this is just televised or this is probably tell just televised matches not just you know pay-per-views which Lesnar only wrestles in pay-per-views, but Miz and Ziggler how many times? How many times?
00:34:47
Speaker
15. This is their 23rd time wrestling. Oh my God. Miz and Dolph Ziggler. Wow. Remember how many freaking IC feuds they had? There was like a two year stretch where it was those two and Dean Ambrose just, you know, going back and forth with the IC belt. Um, so, uh, oh, it looks like, uh,
00:35:10
Speaker
Marco has some answers for us. But yeah, I mean, most of the matches are pretty low, but that kind of stood out to me like Jesus. And there is rumors that this Ziegler match is going to switch over to a Goldberg thing, if they can get him to come in for it. He keeps bringing up Goldberg in all of his interviews. Like every time we hear from Ziegler, he's talking about Goldberg for some reason and Shawn Michaels, which is not going to happen.
00:35:35
Speaker
You never know. I think Sean Michaels is game to come back for one more match, but I don't think it's going to be against Dolph Ziggler. I think maybe, maybe AJ styles would be a more, more viable opponent for, for, um, uh, for Sean Michaels. But yeah, I have noticed over the last few weeks that, um, Dolph keeps Goldberg's name in his mouth a lot. And I'm like, I mean, I don't feel like, I don't feel like WWE as much stuff as they screw up. Like I don't feel like they do those types of things.
00:36:03
Speaker
just for no reason, right? There has to be a reason. They're definitely planting some bread crumbs.
00:36:12
Speaker
to make sure you know what I'm saying like that we know like then Goldberg Goldberg's just gonna come out and be like you know you know I heard you were talking about summer mash you're messing up for the 24 title it's summer smash yeah
00:36:33
Speaker
John Stewart, he screwed up the name of SummerSlam. He was like a big part of a SummerSlam. Yeah, that was fucking awful. Yeah, that was pretty repug. I'm not even gonna lie. That was bad. But yeah, so then after all that, after all the Brock and Seth stuff that I absolutely love, which they should have ended the show on, like why did you not take the show out like with that,
Samoan Summit Criticism
00:36:59
Speaker
right? They had the Samoan Summit, which
00:37:02
Speaker
whatever like I'm cool I'm cool with Samoa Joe and Joe from Samoa like facing off like I think that's an they're an awesome pair they're gonna give us a great match but it was just stupid I didn't like the way it played out even though I was I was like praising this this episode of Raw this was the one thing that I feel like could have been could have been better they should have had Brock and Seth in the show the Samoan Summit should have been earlier in the show but like they had Roman and
00:37:29
Speaker
They had Roman and Joe fighting and scuffling back everywhere. And then all of a sudden they're like, we're going to have a match. I'm like, what have you been doing for the last 10 minutes? Do you know what I mean? You've already been fighting for 10 minutes. Now you want to declare that you're going to have a match. But anyway.
00:37:46
Speaker
Um, obviously, obviously with that, we got, uh, the Usos got involved and, you know, it was literally like every, everybody, like they just emptied the kitchen sink. Like Cedric Alexander was out there. Drew McIntyre was out there and it was just like, where did all these people come from? You know?
00:38:02
Speaker
Yeah, why would you not, I guess hindsight is 20-20, but if, you know, that's a pretty big angle, you know, it's for the title also, it's a big thing. Like, why don't you just have that end the show? I mean, that would be, you know, that just puts a better taste in everyone's mouth when you think about this episode, even though the same thing has happened, just putting them in a different order.
Roman Reigns Attack Analysis
00:38:21
Speaker
Again, I didn't see I didn't see the Simone someone I did see highlights of that beating that Rollins took which was pretty epic so yeah Let's get over to smackdown because I want to talk about let's I want to go to start from the end and go and work to the beginning because that's what I saw and Okay, I need to talk about this angle me and Marco were going back and forth on it the best part of it was the Kayla Braxton like side shot because I didn't know she had all that but I
00:38:48
Speaker
Oh my gosh. I want you to be Caleb Braxton when all that stuff fell on Roman Reigns and I'll be Roman Reigns. Let's, let's, let's, let's like do some role playing here. Go ahead. Okay. All right. You gotta make a crash sound. Joe, Joe. Oh, Joe, Joe. No, somebody help. I'm okay.
00:39:14
Speaker
That's it. That's all he said, is I'm OK. And then he got up and walked away and didn't even tell us who he was going to fight at SummerSlam or would have been like, I'm going to fight whoever the fuck did that, is what I would have said. And then the show can go off. And that would leave us with a little bit more of kind of a cliffhanger.
00:39:30
Speaker
I mean what was the point of that if it wasn't going to like hurt him and like causes to think like something happened to Roman like why wouldn't you just have like do the same thing but just have him like unresponsive as the show went off is it because yeah you know they don't want to mix like a fake angle with someone who just had a real life angle with cancer or what like
00:39:52
Speaker
No, I don't think this has anything to do with cancer. I think I think it was just a poor, a poor choice. Um, I love this. I loved everything about it. Like, you know, um, him coming and just like, you know, gonna announce his summer slam opponent. And then all of a sudden this big, like, you know, rig falls over on him. Um, it definitely caught me by surprise. Um, and then obviously everybody's like, yeah, there was a camera on the rig. I'm like, yeah, but you know, I'm a Mark. So that's a good point. I didn't even think about that. Yeah.
00:40:22
Speaker
I was like, I was totally, I was totally bought in, but I totally, I totally agree. It would have been way more impactful for me personally if they had just went off the air with Roman, like laid out flat under, under the rig and then like us not knowing like what the hell happened to Roman. You know what I mean? Just like kind of cutting, cutting to black and ending the show.
00:40:40
Speaker
Versus him getting out and just being like I'm okay like I don't need help but get away from me like I was I was like well dude like You know they're just trying to help you like you gotta be a dick. You know what I mean? So I didn't like that part of it, but the whole like it like smashing down I really I dug that a lot
00:40:59
Speaker
Yeah, it just, I always think about, like, if I was with a bunch of friends, like, if I was watching this with all my co-workers or something, how fucking embarrassed would I be, like, by watching this? That's how I judge things off sometimes. And it was just like, it just was so, like, ah, it just crin- it just, I made me cringe a little bit, like- I don't care. I have friends who watch The Bachelor. Yeah, I know, I know. It's just like, it just, it wasn't done well enough for me to, like, take it seriously. I don't know.
00:41:28
Speaker
I mean, what did you want him to just implode and blood and guts fly everywhere? If you're going to do that, have him laid out. Have him go off the air like, oh shit, is Roman okay? And who the fuck did this? I don't care who did it now. It didn't do anything. It was a bunch of cardboard boxes. It's the intent, Phil. It was the intent to harm.
00:41:51
Speaker
Roman Reigns, who not only is, you know, one of the best talents in the WWE, but also just coming back to his career, like climbing back up the ladder after overcoming cancer. You know what I mean? It's the intent. Like, you don't mess with people who are doing that. So, anyway. Imagine how bad I would be if this is Samoa Joe. Speaking of wet fart, I mean.
00:42:19
Speaker
I can't believe you used wet fart. I know. It feels like it fits here. I'm proud of you for overcoming your wet fart fear. I've heard some rumblings that it could be Daniel Bryan, but I don't really know how that ties into his career altering announcement that he's been putting off for two weeks now. There was a lot of fan speculation about Buddy Murphy because he was seeing walking away in the background.
00:42:48
Speaker
I didn't notice him. Obviously, I saw the pictures floating around the interwebs after the fact, but I didn't see him in that moment walking away. I was caught up in my markdom and like, what the hell just happened? But yeah, apparently there's a lot of people saying it could be Buddy Murphy, which I would totally be down for. I feel like Buddy Murphy and Roman Reigns would be like a killer match. And they haven't done crap with Buddy Murphy since they've had him. So why not?
00:43:17
Speaker
Why not utilize him in some sort of capacity and use Roman to get him over? You know what I mean?
00:43:23
Speaker
I totally agree. That would be different if SummerSlam wasn't 10 days away, and we have to at least have some sort of matches for Buddy Murphy to establish himself as a contender for one of the biggest names in the company. But if this was like, if we were five weeks away from SummerSlam, I'd be all for that. But I don't think you can do that now, because when was the last time we even saw Buddy Murphy in a professional wrestling ring?
00:43:53
Speaker
When was the last time we saw Natalia? She's fighting a summer slam. Yeah. What? She would know she, she wrestled two weeks ago, didn't she? Oh no, she just came, she came out. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, but I'm just saying like, you know, of course they, they got her now they're showing her now because they built her up with Becky, right? Like, but I mean that the whole reason for having her on two weeks ago was to set the stage for Becky. But before that, can you remember the last time you saw Natalia on TV? I can't, you know,
00:44:19
Speaker
I think I want to stop watching Raw and SmackDown because we've disagreed more on this show than we have in like 37 episodes of this fucking podcast. This is great. Oh my God. It's because when you actually watch the show, you can be right about your opinion. Hey, I could have faked my way through this. I didn't want to pretend. I want to be a faker.
00:44:40
Speaker
giving a fake the funk. But yeah, but moving right along, I'm super excited about about Roman and seeing who his who his mystery opponent is. I don't know if it'll be something that's unveiled next week before the show or I mean, if it'll just be like, I mean, I guess they would have to set it up next week. It's not like a situation like Alistair Black, like where he's like, you know, somebody knocked on my door. You know, who was it? Who's coming to the door? So I feel like they'll have to set it up and, you know, let us know who it was next week. So
00:45:09
Speaker
I'm pumped for that.
SummerSlam Match Announcements
00:45:11
Speaker
What was really cool is Trish and Charlotte are going to be fighting. Trish, they had to bring out more Canadian talent, so they brought Trish out. Trish looked good. I think from what we've seen from her returns in the past, she still looks like she's got a little bit of gas in the tank. She looks like she can go. I'm excited to see. Charlotte Flair is a type of
00:45:32
Speaker
like wrestler that elevates everybody that she wrestles with. So I'm super pumped to see how her and Trish plays out. And I think it's just like a perfect, a perfect way to, you know, have a legends match. You know what I mean? And I thought Charlotte was perfect in her promo. I did hate how Trish, again, it's just like, you know, she's like, oh, I can't do anything. I'm a mom now. Like, oh, I can't wrestle. Like blah, blah, blah. Like, oh my God. Like that kind of stuff just,
00:45:59
Speaker
crawls all over me. I'm like, okay, you're a mom now. Like, I don't know. It just, it just irritates me. I'm like, there's probably lots of moms back there. I don't know how many of those women and like dudes have kids, you know, but like come to hell on, like stop using that as an excuse.
00:46:13
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's the double standard. You don't hear men doing that. I mean, I know women have a bigger role in the entire the entire situation there by pushing a baby out. But pushing an eight pound baby out of their uterus. I don't feel like even in her best day that Trish Stratus was on the same level as Charlotte. But I am excited about this. Oh, no. I mean, no. I mean, women's wrestling wasn't on the same level back then. You know what I mean?
00:46:41
Speaker
Um, but I mean, yeah, she was she was great. But I mean Charlotte Flair, I mean, I don't know. I'm probably gonna take some heat for this. But I think Charlotte Flair could be like the best women's wrestler of all time. I mean, she's just she's just incredible about that. Who would?
00:46:55
Speaker
I mean, she's not even done yet. I don't know. Yeah, you know how the marks are. They come out with their pitchforks sometimes, and they're like, Charlotte, have you seen so-and-so on the Indies? You know, you're just... No, no. It's probably... Haven't you seen Yoshi Nakasaki from New Japan? Come on, Phil. You don't watch every wrestling... I don't even... Fuck that. Yeah. Awesome Kong is amazing.
00:47:17
Speaker
you know um so yeah i i think she's i mean there's no there's no doubt in my mind that charlotte flare is like the best so you really can't even put anybody up against her you know what i mean and be like oh well you know she's she's not as good as charlotte because like nobody's as good as charlotte but i think it's gonna be awesome i was trying to i was making a joke on instagram that like i bet sasha banks is like following along on twitter just like stewing like a mofo because she just like idolizes like
00:47:41
Speaker
Lita and Trish, you know how she's like always goes on and on about them But I thought it was pretty funny that Charlotte's gonna get that to have that spotlight and not and not Sasha So super stoked for that. I thought their promo was awesome. I thought even even after she got away from The king they had like that cringe-worthy opening segment of their little you know
00:48:03
Speaker
he was introducing Trish and talking about Instagram and the raw reunion and it was very like cringy. But then when she got with Charlotte, I thought things picked up and I thought it was really good. Kings feels so out of place in this era of, you know, he used to do these interviews back in the day and was just like yelling for puppies the entire time. And now these, I know you're talking to two like, you know, badass professional wrestler females. So it's, it is good that we've come this far.
00:48:29
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Something else that I loved on SmackDown was Randy revealing why he didn't like Kofi. I mean, which we already knew, you know what I mean? But like Randy kind of went really into detail. Like, I mean,
00:48:44
Speaker
the crazy thing about this whole thing is is it's so true like everything like this is all like a shoot storyline that is like turned into a wrestling storyline and I feel like sometimes those are the best ones you know like it's it's true if Randy hadn't injured Ali there would be no Kofi mania you know and that's kind of mind-blowing to think about you know what I mean like where would we be what would the landscape of
00:49:07
Speaker
the WWE look like right now if Ali had never gotten hurt. You know what I mean? Kofi, Kofi, Kofi wouldn't be champion. Like, let's be real. He would not be. He would not be the WWE champion right now. What do you think would have happened? Who would have who would have been up there? I mean, would it have been? I mean, KO wasn't back yet.
00:49:26
Speaker
What do you think AJ Styles would have been the same? AJ Styles, yeah. I mean that's the only one that I can that I can really see being like a serious I don't think they would have given it to Ollie You know even though Ollie had a lot of you know a lot of fan support behind him and stuff I don't think that you know he was he was ready at that time, but Yeah, definitely AJ Styles But yeah, it's pretty wild to think about and they showed like you know back back when he screwed up he botched that finish and
00:49:55
Speaker
You know, Randy Orton called him stupid and then he kind of he kind of did a play on words and he said, you know, Kofi was stupid like in his little backstage segment. So I thought it was really, really good. And I was just like loving everything, everything about that.
00:50:10
Speaker
Awesome. Yeah. I'm going to go back and watch both of these shows because that's the beauty of Hulu. I have them and I just signed up for Sling 2. I saw that you, you talked about having Sling 2. I signed up for that as well. So I'm excited. Yeah. We got rid of, we got rid of our direct TV like a while back a long time ago and we've been, we've been slinging it.
00:50:26
Speaker
Slinging it ever since and it's good like I love it You know it's it's definitely a lot cheaper than direct TV, and we didn't even use half the stuff I mean we have so many streaming services like we weren't using any of the stuff on direct And it was just kind of like you know an unnecessary expense and sling was much more Much more reasonable, and we got a lot more out of it So yeah, I love me some slang Marco came through and said this is the fifth match between Brock and Seth including the cash in at mania so I
00:50:53
Speaker
Still, I don't know why it feels like. It does feel like they fought quite a bit. Even more than that. And that cash in, I guess, probably counts as a match. Yeah.
00:51:01
Speaker
Yeah, I mean duh that's gotta count as a match like I mean I like I feel like that's like the first one that that's what started this whole thing. Yeah, you know Did you tell us when that that triple threat match was that feel like that was a royal rumble because that was John the John Cena the John Cena and Brock? Yeah, I'm gonna say Oh you think it's it were a rumble no battle round was the the triple threat with all the shield members and
00:51:27
Speaker
I got to look this up now. I got to know because that was that was a great fucking match. Yes, that match was awesome. Oh, Extreme Rules 2000. No, that's Extreme Rules 2012. That's way back there. Yeah, you know, my memory shit. So, you know, I'm not I'm not good at pulling these these facts out of my out of my rear end. But
00:51:47
Speaker
But yeah, so anyway, SmackDown was, SmackDown was, oh yeah, it was Royal Rumble, you're right. I just recorded you saying that, I'm just gonna play, that's my new ringtone. You're right. But yeah, all in all, SmackDown, we did see the Fiend, and Rambling Rabbit was gonna tell us something about the Firefly Fun House.
00:52:10
Speaker
but he got interrupted by Bray Wyatt not the Fiend and it was kind of it was very very creepy and like eerie so i was excited to see you know what what what he was going to reveal about the fun house and then obviously the Fiend shows up in the after Finn had already well i guess Finn hadn't gotten beaten yet but he he got beat right he caused a distraction to get beat so
00:52:34
Speaker
Yeah, SmackDown was really, really good. You should definitely go back and at least watch the hoolooed versions of these shows.
SummerSlam Event Preview
00:52:41
Speaker
But yeah, I'm super pumped for SummerSlam. An early look at SummerSlam and the matches that we have on the card. We have 11 confirmed matches so far. We have Brock versus Seth for the Universal Championship, Kofi versus Randy Orton for the WWE Championship, Sami versus Aleister Black.
00:52:55
Speaker
Finn versus The Fiend, Becky Lynch versus Natalya in a submission match, Charlotte versus Trish, AJ versus Ricochet, Bayley versus Ember Moon for the Raw Women's Championship, Roman versus a mystery opponent, Miz versus Dolph and Shane versus KO. So prepare yourself, it's gonna be a long ass show. And you know, they're gonna add a few more to that, I'm sure, you know what I mean? Do we have any tag team matches on this show?
00:53:21
Speaker
I mean, I would imagine that they're gonna have a Some tag teams like usos and gals and Anderson, you know what I mean? I think that's probably what's what's gonna happen and then maybe Yeah, maybe Nakamura and Ali
00:53:38
Speaker
Oh yeah, true. Marco just chimed in that they still haven't unveiled that it's going to be the Demon Kang. I'm assuming that it's going to be Finn Balor here. He loses, gets some time off, and then we see when he returns, the feud continues with the Fiend versus the Demon Kang. No. If he doesn't come out as the Demon, I'm cashing it in on Finn. I'm never rooting for Finn again because he
00:54:04
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, what's the point? What's the point of having this demon, this undefeated demon, if you're not going to bring him out in like the biggest matches of your career? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I was like I was already pissed when he didn't bring him out against Brock. So like it's like two strikes. You don't get three strikes with me. Two strikes. You're out. You know what I mean? If you don't bring out the demon for this match against this like this unknowable force of evil, the Fiend, then you're stupid.
00:54:32
Speaker
How often do you think we'll see the Fiend wrestle? Do you think it's going to be once he makes his debut here at Summer Sam, we're going to see him every week? I really hope we don't. I hope even if he wrestles like occasionally as just, you know, as the Mr. Rogers character on like kind of just a reverse of what Finn does. We've talked about this before, but I've loved to see the Fiend kind of save for, you know, high profile pay-per-view matches. And I want to see, I don't want to see that character, you know, taking pins.
00:55:00
Speaker
Yeah, no, yeah, I'm totally on board with that. I definitely think he should fight as Mr. Rogers most of the time if it's like, you know, a stomping grounds pay-per-view or something like that. And then for your big, big matches and like title matches and stuff, like that's when I feel like the Fiend should get involved. While we're on the subject, do you see the trailer for the Tom Hanks, Mr. Rogers movie? Oh, God, yes, it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be great, yeah. I can't wait to see that.
00:55:30
Speaker
Marco, what's up, bud? Yeah, just to add in on the the Bray and Finn in 2017, if you remember at Summer Slim, Bray Wyatt faced the Demon King. So maybe they're not going that route again. Maybe it's just going to be Bray's gimmick. The Fiend facing Finn Valor do like kind of like an opposite of what they did in 2017. Hmm. Interesting. Interesting, Marco. Yeah, like that.
00:55:59
Speaker
All right, well, I will check out Raw and SmackDown. That'll be my homework for this weekend. I won't interact with my family. I'll watch all that wrestling. Lock yourself to the basement. It does sound like it was good, yeah.
Optimism for WWE Show Directions
00:56:12
Speaker
Yeah, it was good. Like I said, I mean, it wasn't anything that's like, I mean, it's not groundbreaking. But like I said, I feel like I don't know if this has anything to do with Bischoff and Heyman or any of that kind of stuff. Obviously, I'm not in inner workings.
00:56:26
Speaker
They progressively picked up a little bit you know and i feel like this is like if this is any indication of like where we're going going into like the you know the fox deal like in the summer slam and all the stuff like. I'm getting excited like i'm like oh my god how awesome is it gonna feel to be excited to like watch on smack down again you know.
00:56:43
Speaker
No.
00:57:00
Speaker
It is almost my favorite time of the year, but no, it's hotter than the devil's ball sack here. Oh my god. So just know there is no crisp in the air. And I won't be drinking pumpkin beer. I'll be drinking like pumpkin kombucha. So I hope you enjoy all of your false ciders, you big jerk. All right, let's get into our go figure segment.
'Go Figure' Segment Introduction
00:57:25
Speaker
Here comes the money. Here we go.
00:57:36
Speaker
Alright folks, it's your favorite part of the show. It's Go Figure here while Sheena and I, and I guess Marco can contribute too if he's bought anything this week. This is where we let you guys know what wrestling figures, memorabilia, and other various items we've purchased over the last week or so. And Sheena has picked up probably the hottest figure of the last couple months here. Sheena, let me let you start it off.
00:58:02
Speaker
Um, so yeah, I, um, I ended up picking up the Walmart exclusive Pat Patterson. Um, I snagged him off eBay. You know, I mean, it, it was kind of like one of those things, like he'd been on my search list for a while and I don't foresee myself being able to, to snag him in a, in a Walmart here as desolate as it has been. Like, you know, the pegs are bare. There's really like, there's nothing out there. It's not even like, I don't even pretend that there's going to be figures.
00:58:28
Speaker
on the shelves at this point. So I did pick up that Pat Patterson. I need to do an unboxing on him. That was really the only figure, oh, besides my Entertainment Earth Macho Man Slim Jim figure. Okay, so let me tell you about this. So we were driving, so we kind of re-kept this when it happened, but just for those of you who may be new listeners or whatever, we were driving from Kentucky to Virginia. We had been visiting our family in the middle of this move. Now we're driving to Virginia. This is when the Entertainment Earth
00:58:57
Speaker
Drop is happening right we're in the freaking mountains of West Virginia You know the internet was like crashing macho man like basically broke the internet And we order it will we put it on? Our permanent address like my mother-in-law's address and address that we knew because we were gonna be living out of a hotel in Virginia for a little while
00:59:14
Speaker
Um, well then they called us and said like my debit card was about to expire. Did we want to change the debit card? So when, when we changed the debit card for the order, you know, cause it was a pre-order, they hadn't charged my card yet. We told them our new address and like, they told us it was all updated and everything was good to go. Um, and I see all these people on Instagram, like I got a shipment notification. Then I see all these people on Instagram opening their macho man figures, like posting pictures of it. I'm like, Oh my God, like,
00:59:41
Speaker
Where the hell is my macho man? And then I get a text from my mother-in-law and she like, it's like, there's a, she does just a picture of a box and it's from entertainment earth. And I'm like, no, so yeah. So it's either going to get forwarded. Um, she's either going to bring it out with her. She's coming out for the Bretman second birthday. Um, but, or she's gonna, she's gonna mail it out. But yeah, it's like now it's going to take twice as long for me to get my macho man figures. So.
01:00:11
Speaker
You know me, I'm impatient. I'm like, oh my gosh. So anyway, that was kind of the snafu in the figure world for us over here. And I do have to give a huge shout out. I came home today. So where there's bad things that happen, there's good things that happen on the other side, right? You get to believe that the universe always balances you out. I came home, and there was a giant box on my porch today. And our buddies over at ringside. Oh, no.
01:00:41
Speaker
The are you ready the elimination chamber playset? Oh, so Yeah, dude, it's got the AJ Styles figure like I'm so stoked to like bust this thing out I'm gonna do like a time lapse of me putting it together because I'm sure it's I'm sure it's just easy. I'm sure just snaps right together I'm sure don't do you don't even need to look at the instructions? No
01:01:05
Speaker
So I am going to put that together and unbox it and give you guys an up close and personal look of this elimination chamber playset because it looks pretty dope. Like I said, I would give anything if it was like a heart, like a scale, like an elite scale elimination chamber, but you know, you gotta take what they give you and hope that these sell really well. And then they're like, you know what? Maybe we should make an elite size elimination chamber. Oh, that would be so dope. Oh my God. Yes.
01:01:34
Speaker
Yeah. So that was, that was my go figure haul for this week. So it was small, but it was mighty.
Wrestling Figure Collecting
01:01:40
Speaker
Oh yeah. I've heard that before. Uh, Hey, Oh, that's what she said. Okay. Uh, hold on one second. All right. Uh, first off had a trade ski of the week from a Ryan Dalberg, two, three, one on Twitter. He found Mabel elite at Walmart for
01:01:59
Speaker
I guess it was Miss Price for $3.99. He bought a couple of them. They had like the sticker on the box and I was like, oh, dude, I need, I need to, I have one. I was going to open up it, open it up for my new generation collection. And, uh, so I jumped on it and shot him a DM. Like, dude, what do you want from one of those, man? I'll send you some figures, you know, whatever it takes.
01:02:20
Speaker
He's like, well, I didn't spend much on it, so I don't really need much. I'll take whatever. So I had a SummerSlam Edge figure that I had picked up from Ollie's, and we did a little trade ski. And it arrived. He kept it in the box. I'll open that up. I have, I mean, this is going to be an epic Patreon video. I have probably a good 15 figures in box for this new generation collection and another 15 that are loose that I've gotten from different places that
01:02:45
Speaker
Once the wife is away for like a long weekend for work or something, I'm going to just grab some beers and have like a full like hour long unboxing video of all of these figures. It's going to be pretty epic. So that's going to go into the collection there. Also picked up the Bam Bam Bigelow Legends Elite from a young man on Facebook that I can't find his name on my Facebook messenger, but I will give him a shout out next week.
01:03:14
Speaker
And shout out to at John Warchester 22 and Mike Lanham, who both sent me the, somebody posted the store Meyer or Mayer. It's like a- Meyer. Yeah. It's like a grocery store, but it's got like, there's like a clothing section in it. It's like, I don't know. It's kind of like a Target, but not a Target. The groceries are really good, but the rest of the stuff's just kind of like meh.
01:03:40
Speaker
Like an upgraded Walmart, if you will. Kind of like John Mayer. Kind of like, yeah, it's not bad. So Mike sent it to me after John graciously sent me just pro bono. Just sent it to me for no charge. He loves the show. He's a big fan. He sent it to me, and then Mike sent me one as well.
01:04:01
Speaker
and
01:04:16
Speaker
and have a couple things arriving. So I think it was over the weekend, Pete Dunn showed back up on the Target app and on the Target website. Immediately grabbed a couple of those. They have not gotten here yet.
01:04:31
Speaker
I know Marco can relate to this. I am further down the defining moments rabbit hole. I told you guys last week I picked up, it was a lot for like 65 bucks with the Razor Ramon, the Undertaker and the Crow Sting. So now I'm up to six. I have a couple more headed this way that I'll unveil next week on the show.
01:04:54
Speaker
of the
01:05:13
Speaker
and also, yeah, I had a box on my front step today. Both of, I had two of the Macho Man Slim Jims, one for me and one for good brother Daris from the Baltimore lead squad. I picked one up for him because he wasn't able to get one in time. So yeah, a lot of people have been posting those photos on Instagram and Twitter. And I don't
01:05:33
Speaker
I'm torn. I really don't want to do this because it's such a badass figure, but it's such a unique box, Sheena, that I don't know how it's going to fit. It just looks so much different. I am total OCD about everything fitting together and my food not touching on my plate kind of thing. Am I weird? I know I'm weird, but
01:05:57
Speaker
No, I mean, if I was gonna do an inbox display, the fact that Mattel changes their packaging so often would drive me up the freaking wall. I would be insane. That's why I collect MOC, so I don't have that issue, but when I see people with their, I mean, most people sort them by the line or that sort of thing, but at the same time, yeah, it would drive me freaking nuts that it was totally different. Are you keeping it in the box or are you gonna unbox it?
01:06:25
Speaker
I'm thinking about keeping it in the box. I'm thinking about actually selling it or giving it away. You can't even see the figure if you keep it in the box. It's a weird box. I think you can open it. It doesn't even have a window. Yeah, it is weird. I think you can open the top of it and show like a... Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. I'm not going to open the... I'm not going to open the perforation. You know what I mean? It's perforated around the middle, just like a Slim Jim box. You know what I mean?
01:06:52
Speaker
so like that the top comes off but I'm just gonna like cut the tape at the top and like pull it out the top because I don't want to like damage the Slim Jim box cuz actually really okay really like the Slim Jim box but um But yeah, if you're a MOC collector and you got that figure like I don't understand you because you legit can't see the figure like it's like I get it when you're Collecting normally like there's a window in the box and you can like see the figure like the front of the figure at least But like this is like come on
01:07:20
Speaker
No, but I guess you can kind of halfway open, like halfway open it up because it still has like a plastic cover over top of him underneath that red cardboard, I think. It does, but it's not. It's not once you pull that perforation and you pull that. It's not technically meant off guard anymore. Yeah, it's not even meant off guard anymore. Yeah.
01:07:39
Speaker
OK, that makes sense. So yeah, maybe there's a way to have the best of both worlds, because then you're opening it up, but it's still loose. I don't know. Yeah, it is weird. I don't know how I'm going to. If I was like one of those people that had one of every macho man, which is a cool thing to collect, I could consider opening it up. But I don't know. We'll see. Marco, what did you pick up this week? I guess I'm weird, too, because I am
01:08:07
Speaker
probably going to keep that inside of the box. I am not touching the thing whatsoever. Okay. In search of new co-hosts who collect loose figures. Oh, come on. We need to have best of both worlds. You know, come on. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's just so, I just don't want to touch it. Plus I only had one. I should have gotten two. If I did two, I would have opened it, but I only got one and I might decide later on and open it. I don't know.
01:08:35
Speaker
But yeah, so I did check that. I actually should be receiving it tomorrow, which I'm very excited about. That'd be a great thing to walk into after work. So recently I picked up, I didn't post these yet. The last two figures I got, they're actually from Ringside Collectibles. I got Velveteen Dream in Ray Mysterio, Halloween Havoc, because Velveteen Dream's pretty much my favorite NXT wrestler right now. So definitely had to have his fig and his,
01:09:06
Speaker
Scan is spot on. It's pretty much next to the Nia Jax, I would say, right now, with the facial expression and everything, with the partulates and sevens. Yeah. It is a great figure. And I did grab, I was just telling Sheena, I did grab some of the three packs. So on Amazon, they had a sale on some of the three packs of wrestlers. So I had New Day in the Budios box. Oh, nice. I picked that up.
01:09:35
Speaker
as well as the shield, the shield, the three pack, they have the different shirts. And to top it off, don't kill me if you hear this wife, I did grab the undisputed era three pack as well. So all three of those, I'm not gonna say how much that costs altogether, say that it was a great purchase. But other than that, no, I'm just, I know you mentioned this last week, but I'm waiting on the, I deem this the,
01:10:03
Speaker
the Unbox-a-Mania exclusive Ali I'll be getting pretty soon from Sheena. That'll be worth a lot of money. And that's the only loose figure I'll have besides LJN's. I know. I hit him up and I was like, so are you a loose or MOC collector? Because I was going to unbox all the first time in line for just to show everybody what they look like. And he's like, I have some loose in MOC, which meant I typically keep everything MOC.
01:10:32
Speaker
I feel like if you have, if you're, if you are MOC, like if you're loose, you'll just say, Hey, I'm a loose collector. Like it doesn't matter. Like if you send it in the box, cool. If you don't send it in the box, like that's cool too. But when people are like, ah, you know, they're either hardcore MOC, but if they say like, Oh, I, I'm, you know, I have most of them MOC, but I do collect some loose, you know, like truly deep down in their heart, they're emotional. Like they wish, they wish those loose figures had boxes, you know, they're like, Oh, you know,
01:11:00
Speaker
Um, but yeah, that figure is so, that figure is so dope. So yeah, you'll, you'll like it and just having it displayed and maybe, maybe it will give you some sort of like, it'll, it'll be the gateway drug for you to like open your figures. You know, you'll get to get your hands on it and pose him and like stand him up and look at his back. You know, all the things that MOC collectors do not get to experience. So like I said, uh, pretty soon we'll find Marco in his closet, just like ripping boxes to shreds and like, you know, smelling his figures.
01:11:31
Speaker
Probably that's probably gonna happen. I do have a I do have an extensive collection of our ultimate warrior because he's also one of my favorites and I'm like 99% sure I'm just gonna rip all those boxes open except for the defining moment But a lot of the warrior ones I have I do want to open up because it's just he's a figure made he's just like a perfect action figure if you want to say
01:11:53
Speaker
You posted some good deals over on Amazon today Phil wasn't it like there was some elite 67 figures over there for like 12 bucks or like something like that today on Amazon Yeah, I want to shout out I underscore fought underscore a underscore lion, which is okay You need a new you need a new handle bro. I love you, but you need a new handle
01:12:16
Speaker
He's a great follower on Twitter. Check him out. His name's Luke. He has a Civil War general avatar, which always freaks me out. But yeah, I'm not complaining. It was $12 for Velveteen Dream, $12 for the Rey Mysterio, which I did purchase. And it'll be on the way here soon. $12 for Jeff Hardy.
01:12:34
Speaker
and 1507 for Cedric Alexander and they have already gone up in price so if you're listening to this now I apologize but you need to follow us on Twitter but I did get a tweet from action figure attack who works for Mattel
01:12:49
Speaker
I put on my Big J journalism hat on and he let us know. Someone tweeted him like, what's up with, you know, this elite 67 and basically told everyone, hey, grab them where you can. This is probably not going to hit stores. So this is what he said.
01:13:08
Speaker
There's a really strong chance the big two so target Walmart skipped over 67 since there's a new toy number starting with series 68 and that's what planogram is set with 67 wherever you can find them which makes a lot of sense
01:13:26
Speaker
because number one, there's no chase figure with that 67. Number two, we're already seeing these SummerSlam elites and Pat Patterson's out in stores. So the fact that we haven't seen 67 yet is a little bit of alarming. I love the set. I think all three of us do. There's some really great figures. Yeah. I mean, that Velveteen Dream I bought a couple of weeks ago from from Amazon. Not to toot our own horn or our sponsors horn, but these have been on ringsided collectibles for
01:13:54
Speaker
What, three months now? And they still have not hit stores? I want to say at least three months. Might be more. But that's just a way to get them now. And you can find them, like I said, there's some deals on Amazon. Shayna Baszler right now, I just did a search for WWE Elite 67. And Shayna Baszler, when we started recording the show, was $12. Said only one left remaining, and looks like it's back up to $19.99. Never mind, I'm sorry.
01:14:19
Speaker
and a
01:14:41
Speaker
And real quick, this guy is a great follow, actionfigattack on Twitter and Instagram. I just want to run through. He did an IG story of a bunch of Q&A with people, and they bombarded him with questions. So I'm going to read them off real quick, because there's a lot of great nuggets of information here. And that stuff only stays up on your IG account for, what, 24 hours? So if you were off Instagram for a day, you might have missed it. So if you guys will indulge me, I'll just go through the highlights here.
01:15:11
Speaker
of the
01:15:28
Speaker
Uh, the Alicia Fox is going to be part of the survivor series elite wave hitting Walmart later next year. Um, let's see, Liv Morgan going to hit stores in the next couple of months. He said she should be hitting stores very, very soon. Uh, so she's the chase figure for that elite 69 along with Sonya Deville and the rock at Walmart. So we have three chase figures in that line.
01:15:53
Speaker
Well, the Slim Jim matcha man be released in Target like past San Diego Comic Con exclusives. He said, no, we partnered with Entertainment Earth and they've completely sold out of those figures. So those will not be available anywhere else anytime soon. Somebody asked, why knew Jeff Jarrett? We still don't have the figure rights to Jeff Jarrett, which is odd because he works for WWE now. So maybe that'll change soon.
01:16:17
Speaker
True, but it's just totally different. The merchandise and like action figure licenses and stuff like that, it's like totally a separate entity, you know? Any idea on what Elite Set will feature 2020 packaging? I don't know what that means, but Elite 72 is what he said. Do you know what that means, 2020 packaging?
01:16:39
Speaker
2020 packaging. That's above my pay grade. Yeah, that's above my pay grade. I don't know. I guess it would just be the first line released in stores next year. But that seems kind of crazy because we still haven't even seen 67 or 68 in a bunch of storage yet. So. Maybe they revealed the new packaging and I totally missed it.
01:16:56
Speaker
Yeah, somebody just said China figures that we were able to reveal tons of exciting new figures at San Diego Comic Con, but nothing made me happier than getting to announce China expect her first of many figures to hit midway through 2020. So that's cool.
01:17:13
Speaker
Uh, grill a monsoon and classy Freddie Blassie will be Walmart exclusives. It's good to know. Somebody asked about the Naomi figure that was like the light up figure with the belt that was supposed to be in Walgreens. Uh, that was canceled. He said they're still looking for a home for that figure. So stand by. I'll take one.
01:17:33
Speaker
Yeah, those are cool. That's a damn cool-looking figure. Somebody asked about the ETA on the Ultimate Edition, Shawn Michaels. He said early 2020. He said both mainline figures for the Hurricane and the Lince Dorado Elite figures. Will flashback Harley Race ever show up again? There's a decent chance we can get him out again. No promises, but we're working on it. That was the biggest news from that, because I guarantee there's a warehouse of those fucking things somewhere.
01:18:01
Speaker
And I want one, so. Yeah, for sure. Are we getting Elite two packs? Looks like we are. It looks like the Samoa Joe and the Rey Mysterio from this year's WrestleMania and also the Balor and AJ Styles when they wrestled. I forget what show that was at, but when they did the two sweet in the middle of the ring, those are both Elite two packs. So I like the idea of getting more Elite two packs.
01:18:28
Speaker
I know, but you know what? True. But I feel like, um, elite multi-packs in the past have not done so well. You know, I mean, like the four horsemen set, um, that, um, it was supposed to be an Australian exclusive, but, um, the other four pack that came out and then freaking, uh, like the hall of fame two packs, I think it was like Papa Shango and warrior. And there was another, um,
01:18:53
Speaker
Oh my God, who was in the other two pack Marco? I need, I need, you know, who was in, who was the other hall of fame two pack? But yeah, I feel like those things sat on shelves for like ever. I can't tell you how long I saw those warrior and Papa Shango two packs like sit there. And that wasn't, that was a mage two pack. You know what I mean? And those were bad-ass figures that Papa Shango was awesome.
01:19:13
Speaker
Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, I'm excited to see how it goes. I'm glad they're giving them another shot. But historically, the elite multi-packs, I feel like have not been... I would like to see the numbers on that have not been great. Yeah. I mean, the price tag on the shelf is going to scare off kind of casual people. You know what I mean?
01:19:33
Speaker
Right. You have to really love who you're by. When you see a basic AJ on the shelf for 10, then you see a $45 two-pack. It's like, oh, I'm not going to get this from my 10-year-old. Fuck that. Yeah. Remember, you had the Hienan family, too. That thing sat around for freaking ever. So it was like, oh, it was the Wild Samoans. The Wild Samoans. Yeah, Afa and Sika, which again, mage set.
01:20:02
Speaker
Like, I mean, no casual WWE fan is going to go in and buy going and going and buy that set. So hopefully they give us some good ones with some more like modern guys. Maybe it was just because they were legends. Um, and even, even the, the multi-packs that we had gotten previously, they haven't done a modern multi-pack other than, um, but, but, uh,
01:20:23
Speaker
Marco was talking about like the the Budio set and the undisputed era set and things like that. So I feel like those have done good. But like I said, historically, not so good. He also let us know there is plans for more vehicles slash entrance stages and playsets, which is fun. He didn't give any details on that, but that's always good. Someone asked about the Natalia leads, and that was canceled at Walgreens. But we gave her a major upgrade and now she'll be a mainline elite. So that's always good.
01:20:52
Speaker
And somebody asked, will we get multiple heads in the Elite line like Marvel Legends? And yes, we're already doing
Wrestling Stories vs. True Crime
01:21:00
Speaker
that. We'll continue to see when it makes sense. I'm trying to think of, obviously I know that Nia Jax did that, but they keep doing a lot of hands. Just off the top of my head, I can't think of any of the leads that have just had multiple heads, but it's not counting the Ultimate edition.
01:21:16
Speaker
Yeah, I think I think I am maybe the only one right now, but I feel like I feel like all all elites don't need extra hands. You know, I feel like that's kind of like just what they're throwing in right now. But like I would rather take a different accessory or an extra head scan or something like that, because there's some I mean, if you have a very specific like if you're doing a too sweet or if you're like shinsuke and you have a very specific hand gesture that requires like, you know, a hand swap. Cool. Give me those hands. Right. I need those hands.
01:21:44
Speaker
Um, I can't get these hands. Um, but you know, if it's just like freaking like Chad Gable, like, you know, just, I don't need extra hands with Chad Gable, right? So give me something, give me something better. I'm making a time stamp of when you said, give me more hands. I need these hands. Oh man.
01:22:09
Speaker
I mean, if someone wants to buy us a soundboard, that would be great, because I don't know how. I'm pretty tech savvy, but I would love to be able to play some soundbites here on the show. I am not tech savvy. OK. Well, that's good. At least one of us is. But that was the info there. I did want to touch on a couple of things that I saw. Glow coming back on Netflix this month, season three.
01:22:36
Speaker
And also, it looks like Viceland is going to bring back the dark side of the ring. And we're going to get a episode with Chris Benoit and the brawl for all. I'm excited. A couple of people on Twitter were upset that they're going to do a Chris Benoit episode. I'm all for it. I mean, it's just like a 9-11 documentary or a Holocaust documentary. These are not fun topics to talk about, but they're very interesting.
01:23:04
Speaker
These are the same people these are the same people that watch true crime documentaries on Netflix You know I mean like the people that are tuning in to all that stuff like it's no different But it's they feel a personal connection to it because they they probably you know cheered for Ben Watt like you know when you're watching those true crime documentaries You don't know those people so you don't have any sort of like emotional connection to those people right, but of course
01:23:28
Speaker
Of course, they're gonna get like, you know, butt hurt or offended like whenever it's something that they were once emotionally connected to. And so I don't feel like it's any different than that. You know what I mean? So I mean, they watched like the ad nine case and like all those things. What was the one that was so hot for a while on Netflix? Oh my God, like the little country movie. Making a murder. I love making a murder. But yeah, so it's no different than any of that kind of stuff.
01:23:58
Speaker
Uh, yeah, I remember listening to serial and like those episodes like kept getting, they were, there was a great podcast, but the episodes kept getting closer and closer to my house. Like where they would almost like, they would name like the road, like obviously was made in Baltimore. The story was, it was from here in Baltimore, but it would like, at one point they talked about like the road, like that's right next to my road. Like, oh shit, man, this is, uh, this is getting close. This can close here.
01:24:21
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, I love all that true crime stuff. I love the Dark Side of the Ring stuff. I'm sure it's on Viceland on demand. If you haven't watched it yet, they did one on Macho Man. They did one on the Montreal Screwjob, the Von Eriks. They're very well done. If you're a wrestling fan and you love like long form kind of storytelling, this is what you need to be watching. So check those
01:24:44
Speaker
check those out and glow i i i kind of slept on the second season i watched like one episode so good i know you're a big fan so i'm hoping to get back into that yeah definitely definitely check it out the second season was great i mean i love all of glow but i i'm super pumped that it's that it's coming back
01:25:03
Speaker
Cool.
Nostalgia and Collectibles Discussion
01:25:04
Speaker
Anything to add, Marco, before we get into our retro wrestling recommendation of the week? We got our random merch. Oh, shit. Random merch first. Oh, I feel like I did that last week, too. It's just the R's. You did. The R's. Let's do the random merch of the week, because this is it. Yeah, so Hugh husband came across these little key chains. He just got a new truck, not a new truck. It's a used truck, but it's new to us.
01:25:28
Speaker
He just got a truck and so, you know, you can't have a key without a key chain, right? You gotta have a key chain. So he just like came across on eBay, this guy, shout out to eBay shop owner, Edward2k7, makes these like VHS miniature key chains, right? Like he has like the covers of VHS. He does like tons of WWE. Oh my God, how do I find this? How do I search this on eBay?
01:25:56
Speaker
You need to search WWF VHS keychain and it'll come up. Like I said, somebody told me that he is on Instagram and they're like, I follow him on Instagram. And I was like, well tag him so that I can like give him a shout out. Cause we posted a picture of the, of the one.
01:26:15
Speaker
Yeah, they're like eight bucks, like, you know, between eight and ten bucks. And he does he does wrestling and he does all kinds of stuff. I mean, like Disney movies, all kinds of bootleg licensed merch that he's got. But yeah, super, super cool. And one of these right now, for sure.
01:26:31
Speaker
Yeah, and the cool thing is, so it's a little VHS, it's a little VHS cassette and you open it up and it's actually got like a VHS like decal on the inside. And it's like, you know, be kind, please rewind. And it's got like the name of the, you know, the event and stuff. So it's super detailed. We got SummerSlam 97, the heart and soul, you know, Undertaker and Brett. But I mean, they literally have anything and everything that you could imagine. And it just, it's so funny to me that like, like this guy was like, you know what I'm
Classic Matches and Historical Significance
01:27:00
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going to do?
01:27:00
Speaker
I'm gonna start making miniature VHS keychains and he like sells them on eBay like this is what he spends his like you know free time this is his hobby you know or maybe I shoot I don't know maybe his job I have no freaking idea but um but yeah he's in Michigan and like this is like his like passion project is making these little mini VHS's so you guys definitely go check it out like I said you can just google it
01:27:24
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You know WWF mini keychain VHS, but his seller information. He has a hundred percent positive feedback awesome seller And it's Edward ed. W ar d 2k 7 Yeah, Marco just chime in he wants the the rest of mania 6. I definitely want the I want the screw job, and I want that survivor series 98 and
01:27:47
Speaker
Do they have that one? I didn't even say. No, I didn't say it. No, no, no. They had to special order it, but yeah, he's got like Lion King Jurassic park. They're all like 10 bucks. You know, they can't, can't beat that.
01:27:56
Speaker
No. Yeah. I mean, it's just like a little unique thing. Like it's super cute. And like, it just hits you right in the nostalgia feels, you know, all the fear of wrestling fan and you'd like, how many VHSs have you watched over the years? You know, so that is our random merch of the week. I thought it was, but it was pretty cool. So, um, yeah, shout out, shout out to Edward. So we'll, we'll get right into our retro wrestling recommendation of the week.
01:28:19
Speaker
and with the you know this kind of came on the fly with the news of passing of Harley race I wanted to pick something that I thought would you know just be a good match for you guys to go back and watch and you know watch some good some good Harley race so I chose the first ever Starrcade this is from
01:28:39
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I was on your husband's birthday but it was november twenty fourth nineteen eighty three first ever star cade event he fought rick flare in a steel cage i'm rick flare went over so you know i guess i go back and watch this match but this was kinda like a you know
01:28:56
Speaker
a time when, you know, Harley race had already been already been in the business a really long time. He was kind of like, you know, kind of getting worn out. So this was kind of like his passing of the torch to Ric Flair. And then he took some time off after after Starrcade 83. And, you know, just a really great match and just paid homage to a, like I said earlier, just a true legend in the business.
01:29:19
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There are some big names on this card, man. Piper, Greg Valentine, Bob Orton Jr., Abdul of the Butcher. It is crazy. Steamboat. Steamboat, yep. Riscos. Yeah, a bunch of names. It's crazy to think about. Rick Flair fought Harley Race and AJ Styles in his career.
01:29:39
Speaker
I know. That's pretty crazy, right? I try to think of someone younger. I try to think of the end of his WWF run. I know obviously his final WWE match was against Shawn Michaels, but I'm trying to think of someone even younger. He wrestled with AJ Styles and TNA, but what an age gap there.
01:29:57
Speaker
flair still kicking still you know he's had some health issues too but man what a career he's had and he's spanned so many generations yeah this is it I'm gonna go back and watch this show because this is a year after I'm a Scorpio too this was a year after I was one year old so I'm two years young older than your hubby so but yeah this is I guess this was before Piper went to WWF I don't know it's 83 so
01:30:26
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Yeah, 83. This is before my time too. So, this, I'm an 85 baby. So, yeah. He was at WrestleMania one, wasn't he? Wasn't Piper? Piper, yeah.
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01:30:35
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So, he must have left for a little bit? That wasn't, yeah, that wasn't 85, was WrestleMania one. Oh, okay. Okay. So, yeah, that makes sense. I thought it was, I thought it was 90, 82 for some reason.
01:31:01
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I don't have anything.
01:31:03
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I don't have anything from the nasties out there this week. We had a full mailbag last week and I guess they tapped themselves out. So we'll definitely get some listener mail for next week. But yeah, the nasties were slacking on their questions. But I'm sure we'll get some in before SummerSlam starts because I'm sure next week on Raw, we'll get a lot of stuff people want to know.
01:31:24
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For sure, yeah, we'll get some questions from you guys. If you have any questions, send it over to askchickfoli at gmail.com. And again, if you're a Patreon subscriber, it starts at $1 a month. You get into our Facebook group, and we have a ton of fun in there, kind of talking wrestling, talking figures, talking a little bit of everything. So that's where you should be.
01:31:45
Speaker
And yeah, next week we will do a complete preview of SummerSlam. The card is almost set. I'm sure we'll have a couple more matches like we talked about. But I think just like WrestleMania, Sheena, we should go down the card and talk about each match. And then me, you, and Marco can talk about our favorite figure from that match of who's been made because- Ooh, I like that. I'm down for that. And we'll do that twice a year. We'll do that for SummerSlam. We'll do that for WrestleMania.
01:32:12
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every year. But yeah, we appreciate you guys listening. The numbers keep going up every single week. So we appreciate you out there. Check out the t-shirts. Check us out on social media. And yeah, we're going to keep kicking ass here as we go along. And Marco, again, thank you for joining us and spitting some hot fire, giving us some good info, dude. Appreciate it. As always, definitely, thanks for having me.
01:32:41
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I really enjoy these nights together. We're the three best friends that anyone can have. Yeah, we're the Wolf Pack. We're the three from hell. If Phil wants to impose his
01:33:00
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on a cat that's falling, we can get that going. Yeah. We need to get Zach Eagleoff to put our three faces on the shield, or whatever, the best trios in wrestling. I don't know. The shield's the first one. It's the OC right now. Oh, there you go. Doing the two suite. Yeah. That's there you go, Zach. Come on. I know you're listening to this at like 5 in the morning on the way to the gym, man. Hook us up. We can do the belladontas, too.
01:33:26
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Pretty cool. Yeah It's hook us all hook us all up with all of the all the factions all three three people factions Very nice. So thank you guys for listening Stay classy marks and we will be back next week with our full summer slam preview until then Happy fig hunting. We'll talk to you soon
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so
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Bye.