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We discuss Penta's big debut on Raw, the Corey Graves controversy, and Malakai Black's departure from AEW. Plus, live reviews of Elite 115 and Ultimate Edition 24 with the figures in hand! And a supersized bag of Listener Mail!
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:01
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Welcome to the Chick Foley Show. um
00:00:22
Speaker
What is up, Foley fam? We are back with another episode of the Chick
Wrestling Figures and News Discussion
00:00:27
Speaker
Foley show. Me and Sheena are here to talk all things wrestling, and we got a ton of wrestling figures to review for you guys right here on the air.
Personal Anecdotes and Weather Talk
00:00:35
Speaker
But before we get started, let's introduce the star of the show, Sheena. How you doing?
00:00:39
Speaker
I'm doing good. I'm having a little bit of dental anxiety tonight. I have to, I haven't did disappointment early in the morning. And so I feel a little bit, uh, have a little bit of anxiety tonight. I'm afraid, uh, Isaac Yankham is going to come walking into the room. Exactly. 100%. Yeah. I hate one of the dentists as well. So I can totally understand that. Uh, tell us what's new on the form.
00:00:58
Speaker
Not a whole lot, nursing ah nursing a chicken with some rhinek. Other than that, just de-winterizing, all the snow's melting, so let's just turn the backyard into a nice mud bog.
00:01:09
Speaker
so Yeah, we got some serious we got a serious amount of snow last Friday night, man. It was ah pretty significant. Pretty unprecedented for West Tennessee. Yeah, it was a lot. So the kids had a blast with it. Still a little bit on the ground, waiting to get melted off.
Promotions and Sponsorships
00:01:23
Speaker
I want to remind you guys, this show is brought to you by Ringside Collectibles. Use code Chick Foley to save 10% on all your purchases there. We're going to talk about some of the newest sets they have in stock.
00:01:34
Speaker
a little bit later on and visit www.chickfoli.com. That's where you can find links to the Chick-Foli shop. you know If you want to share our podcast with your friends, that's probably the easiest way to do it because we have links to our Spotify and iTunes or Apple podcast feed. And also most importantly, you can join up the Patreon. Two bucks a month gets you gets you into the best online wrestling community there is with our Facebook group. For sure. All right. You ready to get into it, Shane? Let's go.
WWE Debuts and Storylines
00:02:04
Speaker
All right, so first off, we had Pinta's debut on Raw. It was highly anticipated. Even Michael Cole called it the worst kept secret in wrestling. ah What did you think of Shane? I thought he looked awesome. i I mean, they presented Pinta as just like an absolute huge deal. I feel like when you're bringing somebody over like that, it's um you know it's definitely the way to do it.
00:02:25
Speaker
Yeah, immediately established him as, you know, upper mid card for sure. Possible made a winner at times. And they gave him more of mic time than I've seen him ever have the entire time. I think that segment, yeah, I was reading that that segment went on a little long, but I mean, he was, the crowd was feeling it. They were into it, you know. I think being in San Jose helped too. I think, you know, just, you know, his family was in the front row all crying. It was just, it was awesome. What did you think of the promo afterwards?
00:02:52
Speaker
It was what it was. It wasn't anything earth-shattering or anything, but I was happy to see Pentec at his moment. I think they should just throw the subtitles on and let him go in Spanish, man. His English was good enough, but it seemed like he definitely was having to really think out what he was saying. He started going off in Spanish. When he was going off in Spanish, I didn't even know what he was saying, but it was provocative. It got the people going. When they finally started doing that for Shinsuke, dude, it turned him up 10 notches when they just finally let Shinsuke start... Speaking in Japanese. Yeah with the more cinematic style promos. Yeah, it definitely worked for especially for the heel Shinsuke presentation What's kind of what is your trajectory for Penta in WWE? I don't know I mean there I've seen speculation that you know there it would be cool to see him and you know Rey Mysterio have a lucha versus lucha for the you know, the crown of the ultimate luchador You know, I think that would be cool. But and kind of a send-off for Rey, right?
00:03:48
Speaker
Yeah, it'd be a nice way to see them go off. I still feel like Ray's got one more. I feel i still don't think we've seen the end of Ray and Dom. I think they got one you know ultimate blow off match left to go. I'm assuming that's probably Ray's last match. They could do Pinta and Ray versus Dom and somebody else. Yeah, if you want to do the tag team route for his last one, that'd be cool.
00:04:06
Speaker
Uh, me personally, man, I don't want him to rush into that because I just did. I don't want him to fall into what I call the L.W.O. vortex. It seems like every Hispanic wrestler over the last, you know, coming up on three years just gets involved in this never ending feud. ah You know, it's like the the faces and the names change, but the feud keeps going. I don't know. This is all been during the Triple H watch. dude The rise of the L.W.O. has all been since Triple H took over. And, you know, think about like Angel Garza, Humberto Carrillo, Santos Escobar.
00:04:36
Speaker
the original L.W.O. guys, you know, with Ray, Cruz del Toro, Joaquin Wilde, it just feels like this thing has just never ended, man. I feel like every single week there's just, you know, if these guys are wrestling, you're waiting for the other Latino members of the roster to come in and run in. I just, I want to keep, it's been fine enough for, you know, that stuff is kind of like innings eaters to use a baseball term. But some of those guys are just straight up awesome, dude. They don't deserve to be like, you know, swirled up in that.
00:05:01
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. it It takes me back a lot to like 1997 WWF when you had the Nation of Domination, Los Periquas, Savio Vegas Gang, and then the, what were they called, the Disciples of Apocalypse, man, DOA, Crusher's Biker Gang, just in an endless feud for like a year straight. Like every episode of Raw had some sort of, you know, six man tag or triple threat match involving these guys. And it never went anywhere. It just lasted
Wrestler Transitions Between Promotions
00:05:28
Speaker
forever. forever It was called Gang Rules, was like the name of the the storyline. So yeah this is like the modern day version of that. So keep Penta far, far away from that. Let him do his own unique thing and just show the charisma that he has. Yeah, I wouldn't mind him getting involved with somebody like Seth Rollins or something like that. He would just really like show athletically what he's got, um you know, fast paced matches and you know, Seth's awesome. So I would love to see that. ah Do you think it was a coincidence or not a coincidence that the day after he debuted suddenly Ray Phoenix's merch was not available on Shop AEW?
00:05:57
Speaker
Oh, I didn't even know that was a thing. Yeah. so If you go, you get a 404 error. If you search, uh, Ray Phoenix on, on shop, AEW know. Interesting. Yeah. That's, I mean, I don't think it's a coincidence. I think he, I don't know. I mean, it's it's clear. He doesn't want to be an AEW. I don't blame them for not.
00:06:14
Speaker
wanting to sell his merch. You know what I mean? so Yeah. And like you know Tony Khan, ate the head shed at AW, they're totally within their rights to hold him to his contract if that's what they want to do. But the cool thing, you know the the the bro move would be to just go ahead and let him go. His brothers in WWE, clearly he wants to be there. like you're just I don't think you're really gaining anything. And at the end of the day, it's Ray Phoenix, man. It's not Kenny Omega. It's not Heyman Adam Page. It's Ray Phoenix. I don't think that you're really sticking it to WWE like you might think you are by not letting this guy out of his deal. No, I think, but I think it's just all kind of like, um, it's, it's a smaller like piece of a bigger problem. You know what I mean? I think when you just like let this guy go, then he's going to show up over there with, um, you know, freaking Penta. It's just kind of, I feel you. And there's definitely that vibe now that the pendulum is fully switched back that w WWE is now the cool place to be. You know, there was a right ah two and a half, three year period there where
00:07:09
Speaker
the cool thing was to leave WWE and show up on AEW is a big deal right and it seemed awesome whereas now you know really starting with Cody and then Jade and so on and so on it seems that now the move is to to come back the other way you know to move up from AEW to WWE. For sure. ah hum What do you think about Malachi also now it sounds like he's on his way out do you think we see him back in WWE by the Rumble?
00:07:33
Speaker
I don't know if by the rumble, but I mean, I definitely think all signs are pointing to Malachi, Aleister, whatever he's going to be when he comes back to w WWE, coming back to w WWE. Yeah, I think so too. I'm hoping it's by the rumble. That'd be a great place to bring him back.
00:07:46
Speaker
I don't necessarily think he's going to, you know, immediately shoot to the top of the card. I do think he'll probably be used a little bit more consistently though, and just be that solid part of the upper mid card, right?
NXT Growth and Corey Graves' Role
00:07:56
Speaker
I think like, what you know, if assuming Penta is on raw, I think, you know, I think Malachai slash Aleister Black could fill the, could fill the same role on SmackDown, right? Is that upper mid card guy that could kind of have brushes with the main event now and then?
00:08:10
Speaker
Yeah, i've I've kind of sold my Malachi stock dude. I've always been really high on Malachi. Not that he's not as talented as he's, as he's been. Um, I love the Malachi presentation. I love the Alastair Black presentation. I love everything about it, but it's just, it's never went anywhere. I've put so much stock in it and I've always cheered and I like, you know, pick them in picks league and all this stuff. And they always let me down, dude. So I don't know what it is, but I don't know what the truth is with ah Malachi, whether he's just a complete asshole backstage and nobody wants to work with him or, um, you know,
00:08:39
Speaker
People just don't know how to book in but something's going on there and so i've kinda you know i would be happy to see him back in wwe wwe but. I like i said i'm not ah holding my breath for any sort of like you know world changing ah re debut.
00:08:53
Speaker
In, uh, in kayfabe, he's definitely more sizzled than steak, man. He's got, got the look, got the presentation, got the aura, but you're right. He always ends up losing, man. He's kind of, you know, not to speak ill of the dead. He's kind of in like the Bray Wyatt zone. You know, it seemed like Bray Wyatt was like that for the longest a day to be. Everything was there, but for whatever reason, dude was always ended up looking at the lights when it came time for the big blowoff matches. You always wanted them to win so badly though. You know what I mean? Like they had the fan support, they had everything and they just, it just would not happen. So I don't know.
00:09:23
Speaker
All right, let's get to, we we got a ton of figures to get through. So we're gonna hit on one more thing inside the scored circle before we move over to the world of action figures, this Corey Graves drama. So he tweets, you know, fires off a tweet, talking about, you know, basically, I wanna read word for word on this thing, because it was a pretty lengthy tweet, but basically the the gist of it is that, you know, he's worked hard all these years, you know, be the best commentator he can be. And now that we're entering this glorious new era where Raw is on the biggest platform it's ever been on, getting streamed live on Netflix,
00:09:52
Speaker
you know They bump him for Pat McAfee until college football season yeah starts back up. It's really butt hurt. Then he fires off a tweet saying, you know I got a lot more to say on NXT. And then reports start coming out from all the usual suspects with the dirt sheets that he's actually flown out of Orlando, heading back home. um What do you make of this, Shane? I don't know. I mean, i'm I'm of the camp that everything is a work until proven otherwise. But also, I mean,
00:10:21
Speaker
i I feel like there's there is some really valid ah truth there, you know what I mean? I feel like you know they did replace him with Pat McAfee entering the Netflix era. So I mean, if it were me and I record Graves, I would be pissed too. The thing that makes me think it's more of a work though is he did mention in the beginning of that tweet, he was told that he couldn't wrestle anymore. He didn't decide, you know like he made it very clear that like w WWE took his wrestling career away from him based on you know injuries and whatnot.
00:10:47
Speaker
um So I feel like that's kind of just like planting seeds that he could come back, but maybe I'm just reading it all wrong cuz I'm a mark No, I'm kind of with you. I mean the the jury's still out. It's not a hundred percent either way, but I'm the same way You know, I think I've kind of I I hope that's been a little bit of my influence on you over the years that until prove it cuz you know used to get worked quite a lot on stuff man, but I think I finally got through to her that until I It is explicitly, you know, no doubt about it and proven otherwise. I assume everything's will work. um And then, you know, we saw Nigel McGinnis come back last year to a lot of fanfare and AW. Corey Graves couldn't help but, you know, look at that with a jealous eye. We've seen so many other guys come back from supposed career ending injuries over the last couple of years. I mean, we're going on 11 years now since he's been in the ring and he ended up getting sidelined for concussions for those who didn't know. pretty Pretty solid solid wrestler back in back in his day.
00:11:37
Speaker
I feel like if Daniel Bryan and freaking Paige and Edge can come back, dude. Seamus, yeah. So many guys, yeah. Potentially Biggie. Christian, yeah, Biggie, potentially, yeah. I feel like he can come back at least for one match. And if this does lead to a match with Pat McAfee, you got to imagine it's going to be pretty safe. But at the same time, is a match with Corey Gray? Is anybody clamoring to see Corey Gray and Pat McAfee wrestle?
00:12:01
Speaker
that's That's just it, dude. i mean i yeah I mean, I'm not going to be mad at it. i'm I would be happy for anybody to get there you know their moment back in this in the starlight. But um yeah, I don't think I've heard anybody say like, oh, dude, I cannot. like i would anything I would give anything to see Corey Graves back in the square server. Where do you think that match happens at if it does go down? like what did what What do you see like that ah the the arena being for that match? I could see it being at a freaking C-level pay-per-view. you know what i mean It's not going to be on any sort of big stage. I'm thinking hyped up episode of NXT is what I'm thinking, right on the CW. that To me, that makes a lot of sense. If we're sta if Corey Graves is going back to be the kind of voice of NXT once again,
00:12:44
Speaker
um You know, Pat McAfee got his start on NXT feuding with Adam Cole. That's where it came down at. And that seems like something, you know, they've put a ton of steam behind NXT since it moved to the CW. To me, that makes a lot of sense as a place to have that match. I think that could main event, you know,
00:13:00
Speaker
whatever the next big you know heat wave or whatever, whatever the next big NXT extravaganza on the CW is going to be. To me, that feels like an awesome main event to get Corey grave back over with
Wrestling Figure Reviews and Distribution Issues
00:13:11
Speaker
that new audience. Because if you've been looking at the numbers, NXT has really leveled up since it went to the CW.
00:13:16
Speaker
um Ton of people watching, you know, they they approached a million viewers last week, but they've been up over 700,000 almost every week. And there's a ton of interest on that brand. and I think that'd be a fun little ah bone to throw those guys. And that'd be a good stage for it to play out on. It's going to seem small if it's on WrestleMania or if God forbid they drag this thing out until SummerSlam. But I think it could it could really get its proper shine on on an NXT episode if you do if you do the build down there. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, Corey hasn't been wrestling since you and I got back into it in like 2014. He had just stopped kind of right when we were getting into it. So what was like his present presentation like what was his deal? like ah you know his a I'd say he's kind of like the the great value version of CM Punk. He was kind of like a punk rocker type deal. like That was kind of his look. It looked kind of like Darby Allen a little bit, minus the face paint. i can see Pretty good wrestling. It's kind of similar style to you. I would say a mix of C and Punk and Darby Allen would probably be how I would describe ah Corey Graves back, you know his actual in-ring style or whatever. Yeah, sounds about right. All right. Let's get into some figure talk.
00:14:45
Speaker
All right, we are back with the figure for want to remind you this segment and the entire podcast is brought to you by our good friends at ringside collectibles use code chick Foley to save 10% on all your purchases we have one tiny but very interesting and exciting tidbit of figure news before we get into reviewing ah nine different figures that we got on our latest ringside hall ah Mattel creations announced today are good for an action figure attack they announced that on Mattel creations from now on they will carry the Target and Walmart exclusive figures there. So that's really exciting. Target, you know, I kind of think it's a little bit of a slap in the face to Target because Target's done such a great job with their but they're exclusive with the Legend set. I mean, me and Shane went and did one stop shop, ordered them from home, showed up at the store, and we got everything we needed from our haul on Sunday.
00:15:33
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was easy ah target makes it super super chill. Yeah, you you can do the store pickup You don't even got it. You just don't have to deal with the frustration of the wasted hunts man You know, nobody wants to have their time wasted and more importantly gas is expensive as hell nowadays But more importantly Walmart is that we know what a disaster the Monday night war series and various other Walmart exclusives over the years have been it's an absolute crapshoot you're better off just going to palmart.com and wait for me to show up there and Um, but now they're going to start carrying those sets also, man. So, I mean, the last couple of Monday night wars figures I've wanted or that we've wanted, we've gotten our friend Phil done it from the UK to import over to us, man, which is even paying that it added shipping coming from overseas is more worthwhile than going and hunting time after time after time. We're paying the crazy American resale prices on these figures. So I think it's a win all the way around, um, for, for them to start carrying them there at Mattel creations.
00:16:25
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. Walmart's toy section's always a mess anyway, so it's like, why deal with that? Only credit I'll say about Walmart. They never do the bullshit Target does about holding stuff in the back for a week at a time. No, they're going to push it out. They're going to push it out. It shows up in Target. It's going on the area of Walmart. It's going on the pegs. They don't care, but they got 40 of the same figure out there. They're going to push it out, dude. They do not care. If there's no room on the pegs, they're going to stack that shit up top. They're going to stack it up top. I found good figures up top of the Walmart shelves plenty of times before, man. I have like a whole case. Yeah. At Walmart, check up top, check in the bottom. And then there's always that like, I call it like the crapshoot aisle at Walmart. It's just like the toy overflow where you'll have like Barbies next to some weird like Hot Wheels line. And they got everything right there, man. I've definitely found figures there before too. All right. So we have Elite 115 and Ultimate Edition Series 24 here. What do you want to start wishing? The Elites or the Ultimates? Let's do the Elites.
00:17:18
Speaker
Okay, we'll kind of go what I think is the order from least exciting to most exciting. We'll start off with Elite 115 Drew McIntyre, the Scottish psychopath. Yeah, I mean, it's an awesome figure, but like I feel like I've said this about the last couple of Drews. If you've seen one Drew, you've seen them all. like There's just nothing groundbreaking about this figure. Starting with, I think it was Elite 83, starting with that Drew on, they've just nailed it, dude, with the the sword and the kilt, man. basically got Drew's look that he kicked off in 2020. And it's great. Perfectly executed chest hair. Yeah, very nice chest hair, which is, you know, it can make or break that detail on a figure. So we'll get some of the AW figures that are missing the chest hair, man. I will say, I think I'm not going to, it's January, but I think this may be the biggest like disparity of the year between the regular and the chase because the chase figure we got from this is
00:18:10
Speaker
drew from WrestleMania 39 where he wore the all white gear so he's got the white kill the white trunks yeah like it just, it really stands out amongst the last six or seven drew figures that we've gotten but yeah this is like babyface drew doesn't really go with this new heel persona and it's really similar to a lot of the a lot of the last you know handful of Drews that we've got. So I think unless you just really hard up for a new Drew figure, you're probably safe on passing this one, man. I imagine this thing's going to show up on some ringside sales later on this year. It'd be a good one to add for the kids because Drew figures are always cool, super playable. Yeah, the kids will like Drew McIntyre. so
00:18:44
Speaker
All right, let's go up next we have, ah you know, they they should have given us the some some battle damage like we got on the Cody man because this is CM Punk when he tore his triceps at the Royal Rumble last year I, this is another one man I think from from here on out it's going to be all bangers this is another one that I got to give a slightly mild review to it is a well executed figure, the gear looks great got the really cool the black traditional CM Punk shirt.
00:19:08
Speaker
But I didn't really like this gear that punk war at all at the time it's kind of just plain black gear with the red stars. And this was a very uninspiring performance obviously you know we know after the fact that drew got hurt very early on in this rumble. But if you remember if you go back and watch this is one where him and Cody had a slow kind of soft I think would be the way to describe it. Like you know 10 minute exchange at the end of it they tried to recreate what Cody and Gunther had at the 23 rumble. Yeah, yeah this punks punk looked really bad. Punks looked great. And in his defense, he's looked great. And he's been highly entertaining since he came back. But yeah, so I guess you got to blame the injury on it. But this did't I think this is a figure representing a very the probably the one bad outing he's had since he came back to WWE.
00:19:51
Speaker
and And this elbow pad is just like, look how big it is. Yeah, that's always been a problem until Andy's got the giant knee pads of doom that I hate too. Yeah. yeah I mean, again, it's a, it's a cool figure. It's a punk figure. I know it's going to sell. Yeah, it'll sell. And it's, a I mean, the kids will love this too. I mean, punk is definitely over with the kids. So yeah, nothing special, nothing terrible.
00:20:12
Speaker
All right, long overdue man. The last time we got in a lead of this guy was on that weird UK exclusive came with the UK title. It looked like a totally different wrestler. He was in just plain brown boots. And I want to say like, yeah, short hair with a mustache, like different look all grown up though. We got the big strong boy Tyler bait.
00:20:30
Speaker
I think he looks awesome, dude. this saw i mean Again, we're kind of critical about soft goods here, depending on you know the execution. This is a nice one, though. The soft goods looks great. It's like us you know that's a satin robe, but it's super thin, so it lays really nice. um The color work, obviously, the leaves are are super cool. I think this is a great looking figure. Yeah, it's really, really cool. There's a the chase Pete Dunn from about five or six elite sets ago. We'll go great with this, too, if you want to recreate the the tag team, man.
00:20:57
Speaker
Yeah, these these guys are, you know, if you want the new catch Republic, really, really cool figure though, man. saw A gigantic upgrade and long overdue from the last Tyler Bay we had. And dude, I hope when this guy comes back, they put all the steam in the world behind him, man. You got to remember, it seems like forever ago, because it was, you know, we're talking about eight years ago at this point. This dude was 19 years old when he became the first UK champion. He can go, man. He can go. He's super charismatic on the mic too. I don't think he's ever really gotten a chance to shine. So I don't know.
00:21:27
Speaker
I don't know, when he comes back, do you put him back on the main roster? I think it might do him some good to go down to NXT. I think it would do good to go to NXT. Yeah, get over again. Just get a little main event run down to NXT. He doesn't need to be doing anything other than going after the NXT title and hopefully winning it. Because he's still so super young, man, and I really think the sky is the limit for him.
00:21:45
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, that that whole class of NXT UK wrestlers from back NXT UK was awesome. That was sick, dude. yeah Yeah. They were like, they changed it because they were going to just make it global. And then it just did. NXT UK was a banger, dude. Yeah. It got was another casualty of the pandemic. It kind of just lost all the steam it had. and and It was quietly, you know, went away, but yeah, I loved the early years of NXT UK. That kind of wrestling is just right in up my alley. Yeah, I mean, Gunther, well, it was Walter, Walter at the time, Walter, and that Pete Dunne was just absolutely over. Rhea Ripley. Tony Storm, Rhea Ripley, you know, Pete or Tyler Bay. Pretty deadly. And then Piper Niven was there. Piper Niven was there. Awesome. Yeah, so love that. RIP NXT UK. Also for the record, I've always hated the name New Catch Republic.
00:22:32
Speaker
Yeah, British Strong Style. Seemed like it was right there. I don't know why you need to mess with it. It just rolls off the tongue. British Strong Style, you know? Yeah. All right. We got Judgment Day Archery. I love this. Such a fun throw in figure. I love this. First of all, I love our truth, so I'm always here to support anything, anything our truth. I love that he's got the Finn, Damian, Rhea, Dirty Dom, and then, you know, the taped on and our truth shirt.
00:22:53
Speaker
We already got a ah Judgment Day display on our and our our like you know figure our figure room in the home office. It needs this, dude. He's getting dropped right in there, man. Yeah. Our our truth is like the Sami Zayn of the Judgment Day. yeah i mean like he's just He's the extension that you didn't know that you needed. and you know um so I love this figure. Dude, I think our truth is dual ultimate, man. Dude, he's been in WWE forever. Always entertained. like Give us some ultimates of him and Miz from Mania when they won the belt, man. Yeah. I like that.
00:23:22
Speaker
So yeah, love this figure. I think everyone needs that need needs definitely if you got the judgment day You got to have the art truth. All right, let's go with the new and improved Kyrie saying this is no I think it was elite 73 or 74 was the last one man so we're going on you know almost 40 40 sets between elites um really cool figure you know she's not the pirate princess anymore now she's just this is that you know strictly damage control Kyrie saying we know that Bill Makina is second to only Dave Meltzer when it comes to his Japanese fetish so if you're a Japanese female he is going all out for your figure dude like the EOS guys
00:23:58
Speaker
the Oscars, the Kyrie's, they have always been loaded with accessories, paint apps, deco hits. Like he does not spare any expense when it comes to these figures. He's always went off on Shins' case too. I mean, he likes to do it too, you know? All right. She is an equal opportunist.
00:24:13
Speaker
Um, but uh, this is awesome I mean like I feel like this this set must have had a really high budget because we got the soft goods with tyler bait We got all of the different moldings and accessories and everything with this one And then obviously our last one is you know, I think that's why punk and drew got thrown in and I think those punk and drew were kind of so basic Yeah, they just kind of like, you know use the same. Yeah, um, but yeah, this figure looks incredible all the different hair color Um, it's just I mean it looks she looks like a freaking anime war Yeah, all the different pieces of gear like this is like it had to take her, you know, an hour and a half to get dressed for whatever match this is representing that you got so much different shit on. you Yeah, so many, you know, straps, super, super cool figure out. Yeah, you need this. Yeah, it'll be neat. I kind of want to get the old one out and set them up like side by side to just show like the evolution man, because I always like the pi the the pirate princess. So that was a pretty damn cool gimmick.
00:25:02
Speaker
Yeah, she was always cool with that, but it it was just, I mean, this is like a grown up version. You know what I mean? I feel like the pirate princess was kind of like, you know, her her rookie her rookie gimmick and now she's ah evolved and yeah grown up. She's all grown up on us. And last but not least, I think this is gonna end up being the biggest seller. It's already on back order at ah at ringside. The final boss. It's a ah basic figure, but so so much needed, man.
00:25:26
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, you got the freaking Versace vest, the freaking, you know, the glasses, the chain. Got the eyebrow. Yeah. Everything looks awesome on this. It's bulky as hell. He looks huge like the Rocky. He's got the new tattoos. Yeah. His bicep is as big as his shoulder. Yeah. I want to get this with Roman and Paul and Jimmy and Solo and just make a bloodline 2024. The little display box, man, the score. Maybe you recreate the time when he acknowledged Roman, but there's just There's a lot of meat on the mount for this figure. He's got the acknowledge finger. Yeah, it's awesome, dude. We need to get... I hope they do it, man. They owe us... They've done a couple of nice basics of it. They really owe us, I think, one of the big missing pieces right now on... One of the big missing pieces right now on the roster, or I mean, excuse me, on the Mattel roster, is a street clothes Roman. Give us Roman from the Mania build. You remember all the build last year to Mania 40?
00:26:22
Speaker
Roman was in the hoodie the entire time. and like the yeah give it give it yeah Give us an elite of Roman and in the hoodie. That's why it stood out so much at, you know, WrestleMania. Roman had been hiding that hoodie all season and he comes out, he's in the best shape he's been in his entire career, man. Frickin' ripped, dude. Yeah, it was nuts, man. So, ah yeah, this final boss Roman, very, very cool. Excuse me, final boss Rock, very, very cool. Definitely added to your collection. We got the ultimate on the way, but I think the ultimate's going to be geared more towards his appearance at WrestleMania.
00:26:50
Speaker
It's going to be soft goods heavy. And you know, if you've seen that evolution three pack on the shelves at Target, you know, the soft goods can be very hit or miss me. You saw that one on Sunday. Oh my God. That Triple H was absolutely like, I mean, I don't know what they were thinking. I can't, I can't imagine you like put that in the box and you were like, yeah, we'll go ahead and send this out, dude. Randy Orton, but like, dude, I get it, you know, the soft goods, ah there's a traditional kind of sense amongst figure collectors that the soft goods make it a more premium item, right? It just, yeah if it's executed well, it can look better than the regular molded, but- But the way they do the molding and stuff now, I mean, it's just- Yeah, and the molded suited figures have always been just fine. So yeah, they just want to put that Triple H in a molded suit. if I think of that set, you know, targets usually pretty good. It seems like for whatever reason, stuff flies off their shelves. I think if that set gets marked down,
00:27:46
Speaker
It may be worth grabbing and just do a head swap with that Triple H on some random suited figure, even if you can't find a perfect match, but yeah that suit is atrocious, dude. Yeah, it just, it looks horrible. And for the MOC collectors, you can't even like straighten it out. It's like so bunched together in like a little... And the sleeves are kind of like right up on the elbow. So it's, it's just, yeah. It's a mess. He looks like Mick Foley, dude. Yeah, it was a rare swing and a miss from Mattel. Cause even the figures we don't love as much, you could still say it like that punk and drew that we were kind of Luke Ormond from these sets.
00:28:13
Speaker
they're still executed exceptionally well. You know, that it's just they just don't got a lot of juice. If you somebody that's, you know, got a collection approaching 2000 figures like we do, it takes a little bit more to move the needle. um All right, you ready to get into these ultimate, Shane? Oh, yeah. All right. Which one do you want to do first, dealer's choice? Let's start with, you know, we just ended up with the bloodline. Let's start with the bloodline 2.0. Let's go with Solo. All right. So we've got the false tribal chief here, Solo, Sokoa. They dropped the basic recently that had it, but this is our first elite and or ultimate of him. It's his first ultimate, but this is our first, you know, articulated, true articulated figure of him with the boots, man. Everything else we got in prior has been... Barefoot. Barefoot solo, which you know, I still prefer barefoot solo, but I get it You know, you can't you can't really be the main dog in a faction if you're barefoot, dude You got to put some boots on to truly ascend to main event status Because the bare feet just really gives like a primal vibe, right? Yeah, like you're just like the enforcer pull it off. You know put it off But those guys weren't cutting like extended promos. Even Rusev switched up from the boots, man. After his first year, he went from barefoot. But he had an ankle injury, right? That made him do the boots. He never went back to it. I think Vince wasn't a fan of the barefoot wrestlers. I mean, it was the whole vibe. I mean, Rusev was the Bulgarian brute. I think barefoot really just symbolizes like I'm a freaking caveman.
00:29:32
Speaker
This figure does look good, though. I think the this is one that the ultimate like body style, I think it suits Solo's unique build, because he's a thick dude. I think this looks a little bit... Even with the upgraded build they did on his second Elite, it's still looked a little bit too skinny for Solo. so I think the actual build of this figure is really nice and that the head scans look great, man. i mean That looks like... that It's a splitting image of Solo. Yeah, the the little scowling hits, ah the head scan, I really like that. i like I like the yelling one, man. The yelling one with the thumb back, like, yeah, he's he's about to Simone and spike somebody. Yeah, and it comes with the the hooded sleeveless sweatshirt. um This, I mean, this figure looks great. you need You need this, even if you have the other solo, you definitely need this. Yeah, it's a must add to the collection. All right, what do we do next? Let's go with, ah let's go with Finn. Okay.
00:30:21
Speaker
All right, we got Judgment Day Fin in the white and black pants. um He's got the little, like, I don't even know what you would call those. It's like the bandana, neck gator type thing. Well, no not the neck gator, but the t-shirt. Like, what what would you call these little characters? Oh, the caricatures. Yeah. Little big head caricatures. Yeah, little big head caricatures. Almost like, you know, a little pop vinyl. And he's got the jacket,
Listener Questions and WWE Hall of Fame
00:30:41
Speaker
got the face mask. Like, yeah, this this thing is... Swappable arms. Really, really cool. Yeah, he's got the he's got the arms with the sleeves on, and then he's got a set of bare arms so you can see all of his tattoos and everything. This is a brand new torso also. This is the first time this torso has been used.
00:30:54
Speaker
The torso looks a little strange. I think maybe ours is just shifted over a little bit. I think he just bent a little bit in the box, yeah, but it's a new super ripped torso. I think it looks great. Yeah. Finn's obviously got negative percentage body fat. Yeah, he's got 12 abs. But the rest of them are normally kind of smooth on that little ab crunch, and his looks like it's... Yeah, I think it's just because they got his shoulders kind of turned a little bit the way it's packaged in the sea. I think it's going to look just fine. Yeah, I think the net gator is super cool. I can't wait to see that like on the figure I think that's just gonna make it look badass face scans as usual for fan are on point Yeah, it's there's a chase of this also that's got the black pants. It's really similar to the last couple fans So yeah, I don't, unless you're just a fan completionist or you've missed out on the last couple of leads, I think you're probably good to skip the chase on this one. But this looks like a, it's a tremendous figure, man. So I definitely recommend adding it. If, and if you need, you know, a black geared fan, I would definitely go with the ultimate over the elites.
00:31:52
Speaker
Yep. Good stuff. All right. Last but not least, you know, the figure, my figure of the year last year came out in January. It was the ultimate edition, Oscar. There's a good chance. My figure year of the year this year is coming out in January as well. This is ultimate Bray from sadly, his last ever match, Royal Rumble, 2023, the Mountain Dew pitch black match. ah The match, i it's kind of grown on me as times gone on. I like it more than I liked it when it initially happened.
00:32:18
Speaker
And it's super historically significant now obviously for the the kind of morbid nature of it being brazed last match Excellent figure though, man. This thing was originally supposed to come out. I think elite or ultimate edition 20 Got pushed back a little bit because you know, obviously I'd respect maybe I think it was actually 17 or 18 is earlier than that um But got pushed back out of respect for brain. They went a little a little bit of time pass Before they released any new brain merch, but I'm glad they didn't permanently shelve it. This is an awesome tribute to his legacy I think it's
00:32:49
Speaker
Objectively, I think it's the best Bray white figure that's ever been made. Now you may have a favorite based on, you know, whether the fiend was your favorite or, you know, the cult leader of Bray. But I think straight up just off the quality of the figure, this is as good as it gets. And it's going to be very tough for anything to beat it this year.
00:33:05
Speaker
I mean, you said it all right there, dude. It just looks spectacular. like the All the detailing is just like immaculate, the paint, the face scans. i mean this like This masked face scan up here in the corner is just like unreal. I mean, this looks like some neck of shit up here in the corner. you know and There's so much meat on the bone too. i mean this You really almost need two of these, man. if you're ah If you're a straight up, you know, if you're if you're a completionist, or if you like to display everything, yeah, you need, you definitely got to have him with all the the black light paint gear on. And then, you know, you need the one with the regular arms, you can either view the the mask face or the, yeah you know, the no mask, the no mask face is cool, too. He's got the the raccoon paint going around the eyes, like, this thing's just tremendous, man, I really want to get it under a black light to see how well the black light effect works on this.
00:33:54
Speaker
um the the lamp glows like you can charge the lamp with just like a standard regular yeah I put a flashlight up to it earlier and um charged it up and it it glows in the dark so yeah this is just an absolutely stellar stellar figure do you think we're gonna get another Bray ultimate like a more traditional Bray ultimate Uh, I mean, so we got a ton of, we got a ton of fiends already. Um, I think eventually, I think maybe even in the legends line, I think we could see, cause they really only did one true of like the OG like cold leader or Hawaiian shirt, Bray elite. We only got one of those. Yeah.
00:34:28
Speaker
The subsequent braids that came after in like Elite 36 and Elite 54, they were the more like... Yeah, he had like the leather apron. He'd gone darker. Yeah, he had the butcher. Yeah, it looked kind of just out there. So I do think that there's room for an Ultimate Edition of like the original 2013, 2014 Bray. um And then obviously we need some Elite to brave when he was coming out and just cutting those really emotional promos towards the end there.
00:34:49
Speaker
ah But yeah, you know, we haven't gotten a ton of braids since they went to with the new updated articulation and stuff. So I do think that there's a lot of stuff that they could revisit. and ah They could give us like a door accessory, like yeah like a light up door, you know. Yeah. Bray from his return. That's ah actually a great idea. You know, maybe for a defining moments, dude, maybe put Bray in there with what he was wearing with that mask in and then have the doors and accessory. That's it. and That mask and figure form would be incredible. Yeah, that'd be cool. That's a tremendous idea by you to get to get that out from his return at Extreme Rules, because that was such a cool moment. Yeah, I love this figure. um Super sad. maybe Made me sad to open the box today. Yeah, it's a bummer, man. it was kind of Like I said, this one's almost like bittersweet man to to hold in your hand, because like I said, i mean he was gone basically seven months after this, and this was... That was it, yeah. we did he He had a couple little TV appearances after this, but this was really it as far as matches go from
00:35:42
Speaker
from once he returned. you know And he he returned with all the momentum in the world there at Extreme Rules 2022. And yeah we had no idea that he had basically a year left to go at that point. Gave me goosebumps. All right. but we have So again, Ultimate Edition 24, Elite Series 115, and the latest um the latest Greatest Hits series are all in stock right now. There's some great Usos figures from back when they were ah you know, going hard in the paint era. um ah That's a set of eight figures right there on the the latest, greatest hits. So um definitely check out all that stuff at ringside and use code chick-fil-a to save 10% on behalf of us. Shane, do we got some listener mail? We got a loaded mailbag tonight.
00:36:32
Speaker
All right, speaking of our dearly departed Bray, um our buddy Dougie Nunya, he said, ah what are your thoughts on the Wyatt Six and how they're being used um and now moved to SmackDown? I think it's been pretty much pitch perfect, man. I think with the guys involved, ah you know as as talented as they are all individually, I think it was as great as that big debut was. I don't think any of these guys were true main eventers in the traditional sense. I've really liked them. you know They've used them sparingly. They haven't been overexposed because that's the thing we wondered about when they debuted.
00:37:01
Speaker
What's it going to be when, you know, Eric Rowan and Dexter Loomis are fighting pretty deadly to become the number one contenders for raw tag belts? They haven't done that. They've treated them as a special attraction that show up here and there for a little mini runs. And they haven't even been on pay-per-view. That's a crazy thing. Their big blow-offs have happened on weekly TV. So I think it's it's a pretty solid use of them so far. We'll see if they try to elevate in 2025. But if it's more of this, if they're just ah a fun little part of the show, kind of Kind of existing in their own universe like how we saw, you know, Cody Rhodes kind of doing a debut or it's almost like separate from everything else going on the show. I'm fine with it. Oh, yeah, I agree. I agree 100%. I think something like that less is more less is more and um it's just hard man. We've talked about it on here before when you have something that is so just um
00:37:49
Speaker
otherworldly you know and they're not even as otherworldly as like Bray was right there's they're hanging on to like their humanity you know what i mean like they're showing that they're like human characters and not just like you know these um entities right um it's just it's just hard to book something like that and um i feel like they've done the best i think it's been pretty good the best thing yeah if this is something that just shows up every once in a while i'm totally fine with it man Absolutely. They had big shoes to fill. I feel like it's never going to feel the same as it did when it was Bray and the Wyatt family and all that. I feel like Bray and the Wyatt family, this is how they should have been used though, man. yeah They should have been used to this because that's what wore out on Bray. They put him out there every single week to either wrestle- 10 minutes with a freaking promo. Cut these rambly promos, yeah. He never even cut them in on on the in the ring. he yeah It was always backstage. Backstage. I think this is a great way to use a ah you know a supernatural spooky gimmick.
00:38:36
Speaker
Yep, definitely. um Lots of questions about Pinta. Dougie said, how do you think Pinta's debut went? We already talked about that. But Tony said, um after Pinta's blockbuster, Tony Barker said, after Pinta's blockbuster debut, who do you think from AEW would be the next to try to follow in his footsteps and jump to the E? And I think we had another person ask about um ask about that as well. So we already talked about Ray Phoenix and Malachi. They're definitely over. I feel like... I think Britt Baker should come over.
00:39:04
Speaker
Britt Baker would be cool. I feel like if I'm Adam Cole, I'm trying to come back over, man. I feel like Adam Cole and the whole undisputed are if they came back over and got another run at it in WWE. I think with Triple H in charge. I don't know. Do you think they, I mean, but do you think that they would even fit in on the main roster nowadays? Maybe they just go back to NXT. NXT is not a bad place to be. If they went back to NXT, I would totally be on board with that. I just cannot see. If you look at the numbers, NXT is smoking AEW right now. So like it's, you know, AEW to me, if we're referring to NXT as its own thing, I think you got WWE, NXT, and then AEW behind that right now. So I don't think it's anything wrong. I mean, look at how much bigger of a deal Ethan Page seems like being in NXT now as opposed to AEW.
00:39:42
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. I think, um you know, I think NXT would be perfect for like a re-imagining of the undisputed era. But um I just, Adam Cole is going to get swallowed up on the main roster right now. You'd have to totally spin your dis display. yeah And I love Adam Cole. Yeah. Like what's he going to do against Drew McIntyre, Roman Reigns, and even Seth Rollins at this point. You know what I mean? I just feel like there's just, there's just no way Gunther, right? yeah co He's getting murdered. Yeah, he's getting murdered. Um, Dougie also says, if you could pick the next lineup for a territory era four pack, who would it be? This is a question straight for Seth. Um, hmm. Who do we want to see? I want, I want the deep cuts, man. Give me something like a Nick Bachwinkle elite for like the AWA era. Um, the Von Erics would be good. Obviously the Von Erics would be great to revisit. Give us another Carrie and Kevin. So I'll go Carrie and Kevin, some updated Von Erics. Give me Nick Bachwinkle from the AWA. And then.
00:40:38
Speaker
Um, maybe give me like a early, early, like pre WWF, Roddy Piper from, you know, he was big up in the the Portland Oregon territory. So I'll go with that. Give me, give me Piper as like the anchor of the line. Cause you got to have a star in there to move it. Give me Nick Bockwinkle is the deep cut first time in the line. And then give me some updated, uh, bone Eric's, uh, Tony Barker says it's almost hall of fame announcement season. Who would you, uh, who would be your top three you would like to see for the 2025 hall of fame?
00:41:05
Speaker
Dude, to be honest with you, man, I'm kind of over the WWE Hall of Fame. I'm not even 100% sure who's in it and who's not, dude. like If you gave me a pop quiz, told me enter out, I may be able to get like seven out of 10. Right, right. I 100% agree with that. and i think it like i can't I can't even count how many times I've said on this show, like it's an absolute travesty that we don't have a physical w WWE Hall of Fame. like i cannot Like, I don't know. Like, I mean, why you could sell tickets to that. Like, you could Disney World. You know what I mean? Like, Marx would flock to the Hall of Fame. I disagree, dude. I don't think that there's enough meat on the bone for wrestling fans to keep that a year-round thing. i I don't think it's a standalone. Yeah, exactly. its yeah If it's an attraction at Universal, because then you get the wrestling fans going to Universal to see it, and you get the laps fans passing through. I think and i think it needs to be a part of something already established. yeah Now, if you want to make it like a thing where it's attached to like the PC and you know, when you get your ticket, you're going to tour the PCM Hall of Fame. Maybe that's something that could work. i do As much as I love WWF and it would be great or WWE and it would be great, right? I'd love it if that was a thing. I don't think it's viable for it to be its own like the baseball, like NFL Hall of Fame. But even for like a year, though I mean, they could do like a Barnum and Bailey style, like, you know, just like a traveling Hall of Fame, like pop up a big, pop up a big tent, and you know, go to big cities and just like, you know, open the Hall of Fame for a weekend. You know what I mean? Like how we hit the like, oh, the circus is in town. Like, oh shit, the WWE Hall of Fame's in town. You know, like, I feel like, I mean, I know I'm a mark and I speak for a very small portion of fans, but I feel like
00:42:37
Speaker
Dude, that would be major and I think that is something that would attract even old heads that don't watch the product anymore They want to go see whole Cogans ring gear. They want to go see like, you know, what I mean, yeah I mean as neat as it would be we know this company leaves not one cent unturned anywhere and there you know, it's it's not a groundbreaking idea I'm sure the idea has been brought up and there's just no way that they could do it make it profitable You know, I think that's why it has a have I know but not I mean I but not everything has I mean some things you just do for the I mean dude they have I Just unimaginable warehouses full of just I love where your heart's at, Shane. But there actually isn't stuff that you got to do just for the love of the game. It's just it's not a thing. They're publicly traded company. They're responsible to the shareholders. Like, that's just not a thing. Now, what you need to do, you need to be you need to be pleased to Tony Tony to just Tony Connie started his own pro wrestling Hall of Fame. I actually think that's something they can do a great job with and call it the you know, the All Elite Hall of Fame.
00:43:32
Speaker
And don't even let, don't let any kind of company line told you back. Let it be a free for all. You establish whatever you want. Cause he would do it, man. He's got the money. He he can make it happen. Cause then it doesn't matter if it makes money or not. Yeah, true. it's Very true. I mean, for the, for all these, I mean, for all those people, it doesn't matter if it makes money or not. maybe maybe be it does they the they are it mean straight up public They're publicly traded, but also like they just have, like they have just.
00:43:57
Speaker
ah Just a gross amount of money, dude. It's like, it's, you know, they wont unhinged how much money they have, dude. When you're a publicly traded company, you gotta show growth quarter over quarter over quarter. Bleh.
00:44:08
Speaker
It's gross, yeah, I agree. Gross. I think that would be fundamentally changed for the worse when they went public back in 99. Nothing gets better when companies go public. Besides a bank account, that's it. Besides a bank account, right? For the people, if you own the company that's going public, yes. But for the people who have invested, the fans or the people that are like, love whatever product you have, no, it never gets better for the people who freaking prop the company up for however many freaking decades. um As far as Hall of Fame,
00:44:40
Speaker
I could, I mean, I wouldn't mind seeing Bray go into the Hall of Fame. I don't know when they'll do that, um but... Yeah, Bray's definitely well deserved, man. it's It's been, I could totally see that happening this year. There were a lot of people clamoring for it last year and I think it was just too soon. Just too soon. Yeah, you don't look like you're trying to like you know cash in on the attention. Yeah, I think Bray's definitely a solid choice. Yeah, I think it would be, I think that would be good. i mean Demolition, demolition still aren't in. Let's put demolition in there. They're well deserved. We've seen a lot of other frosty relationships kind of get thawed out since Vince has gone. Miss Elizabeth.
00:45:10
Speaker
I think Elizabeth's already in. I don't think so, dude. let me here Fire up the Google machine real quick. Fire up the Google machine. is ah Is Miss Elizabeth in the Hall of Fame? I i thought Liz was. But yeah, demolition is probably the biggest missed one. they de they They got a claim. You could make a solid case for them being best tag team of all time.
00:45:31
Speaker
The WWE Hall of Fame has not yet included iconic figures like Psycho Sid, Owen Hart, Miss Elizabeth, Bam Bam Bigelow, British Bulldog. ba Bam Bam is well deserved. Bam Bam Bulldog could go in. Yeah. But yeah, shena so Sheena's picks Miss Elizabeth. That's a solid one too. So end of the day though, man, like I said, the WWE Hall of Fame, it it means almost nothing to me.
00:45:51
Speaker
Yeah, it it just it is and it's and then they make the presentation of it So boring that it's like you don't even you don't even want to watch it on that when it's being presented, right? Like they make it a big deal They they pump out a bunch of merch But I think it's cool for some of the old timers to get you know one more spot in the one You know one more moment in the spotlight but other than that like it it makes no difference to me if you tell me like like somebody being a Hall of Famer or not being a Hall of Famer makes no difference right whatsoever on where they stand in my own personal and kind of hierarchy. Yeah, because there's also so much politics there, right? It doesn't even mean that you're the best
WWE and Netflix Partnership
00:46:23
Speaker
of the best. It's just like, you know, just a matter of time and years and whatnot. And what your relationship is with the company. What your relationship is with the company. And yeah, unfortunately, a lot of those people have already passed and there's never going to be any any place for them in the WWE Hall of Fame.
00:46:36
Speaker
ah Tony Barker also says, would you still have Hulk Hogan appear at the next Saturday night's main event show after the reception he got at the Netflix premiere? I think so. I think it was just, dude, they were in l LA. I mean, you had to know when you rolled Hulk Hogan out there in freaking LA that it just was not gonna go over. And they didn't get me anything to work with either, man. i think I think a different town and give them a little bit something more juicy than going out and basically just doing a commercial for Netflix and Real American Beer. give let him Let him be, you know, you can weave in the,
00:47:04
Speaker
The marketing tie-in, if that's a check that you actually got to put in the box, but give them a little bit more creative material, something something a little bit better to do, and and I think it'll go over a lot better. And dude, it's Hulk, man. He's still got the charisma after all these years, dude. Let him get the freedom to say, hey, you know hey Hulkster, if they start booing you, man, flip that switch, go into Hollywood mode. heel off them Feel free to heel off on the crowd, get some laughs, get them going against you. Yeah. I think i mean i think there's a there a huge population out there that still is just... you Yeah. they they Forgiven and you know moved on. I think it was just the worst possible location Bad location and they didn't give Hulk much to work with and it was like it was a weird episode of raw to begin with you know what I mean? It was just already like so commercial and so just a key feeling fans are probably getting a little bit antsy there in the building Yeah, did we just really just shell out 700 bucks to sit here for a two-hour infomercial? Yeah for a freakin circle jerk for the freakin Yeah, we're getting four matches in three hours. So yeah
00:47:59
Speaker
i think that I think the vibe had started to get a little bit weird inside the building by that point. yeah um Sam Bro says, what's your pick for the next Ringside Exclusives Ultimate Edition two pack? Mine is Brothers of Destruction. Yeah, I saw it. I've seen a lot of people starting to get the nostalgia for that American badass style Undertaker. We haven't gotten the Ultimate Edition of him in that yet, so that would be great. Heart Foundation.
00:48:24
Speaker
ah would be cool. Yeah. Heart Foundation would be cool. But would we just got those in the Coliseum collection, though. Oh, yeah. About Brett and Anvil. I mean, there's still a bit better version out there we made, but I don't see that happening again. um want Black and purple undertaker is probably my most one. So I'll kind of take your your choice with the brothers destruction is spin off of that Do you give us ultimate edition mankind and ultimate edition black and purple undertaker from that big feud in 96? I think that'd be great I know it's a little iffy because ringside just dropped an exclusive mankind last year But you know, there's still a better a better mankind figure out there to be made as great as that one was So so that'd be my pick Sanbro says have y'all noticed the sound quality on Netflix like they open up the crowd mics for expected pops I love it
00:49:06
Speaker
I didn't notice. So I mean, I just, you know, like I said, I'm just kind of like watching. I wasn't really paying attention to that. Did you notice that? Uh, not that specifically. I will just, in general though, the show has looked and sounded amazing, man. It definitely is this the presentation. I don't know. I'm sure it was, uh, it doesn't make it was one big thing, just a bunch of little things.
00:49:24
Speaker
It's it's it's felt like a big deal. yeah It felt like a premium of event Even more so than you know, regular episodes are all at great anyways, but it somehow looks even better on Netflix I don't know if it's just the streaming on Netflix is better than we were watching on Hulu But that yeah, the cameras and the audio both are just absolute top-notch pristine Yeah, i want yeah I'll clarify. I agree 100% with Seth that i it wasn't that I didn't notice that it felt different. I just didn't notice specifically like the crowd pops. um Yeah, the whole vibe of the new Netflix is awesome. I think this- I'll put another coat of polish on an already super shiny polished product. Absolutely. And I think after that initial episode of Raw, like this this past week, we really got to kind of see like what it's going to feel like and kind of- It was cool. I like two and a half hours. The show just ended, you know, so now you don't know what it's ending, right? First episode was three hours. Last one went.
00:50:12
Speaker
two and a half hours, and without any notice, all of a sudden, the credits are popping up, man. like yeah I thought the second episode was a lot more indicative of what we're going to get week to week, and it was a really fun episode of Raw. Yeah. I mean, I didn't figure that, the you know like I said, there's like the the pandering to the- All the celebs. All the celebs and everything. like Again, i mean it was cool. it was you know It was a moment. It's something that's going to go down in history, but I'm ready to get back to just regular regular Raw and elevated
Wrestling Journalism and Figure Lines
00:50:36
Speaker
Raw. Yeah.
00:50:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'm loving it. Sanbro also says, where's SmackDown gonna move? Netflix, Hulu, Paramount? The highest bidder. I think it's, you know, I feel like at how the NFL does stuff, they don't put all their eggs in one basket. You can get more money by parceling this stuff out. Obviously, that's what they did on these last negotiations. It's how, you know, SmackDown was ah decided to stay on with USA while Raga was in Netflix. And NXT goes to the CW, so I think you're going to see the same thing. I think unless Netflix just makes a you know a Godfather-style offer that they just can't refuse, I think you're going to continue to see the various WWE properties parceled out like this, which is a little bit of a pain in the ass for consumers. Again, they don't care. Yeah, it's all in service to the almighty dollar. They don't care about us. Sam Bro says, do you think the Dave Meltzer's of the wrestling world even matter anymore?
00:51:27
Speaker
um I mean they do they're still they're still valid and as much as we shit on Uncle Dave like he's still probably the number one voice as far as being a historian for wrestling so what he says does still matter as far as breaking news though I feel like he's been wrong a ton the last couple years that's probably been the most refreshing thing since Triple H took over whoever though was you know leaking stuff to the dirt sheets it seems like that stuff's gone by the wayside. Cause there's been a ton of stuff that they just didn't know about. And then there's been stuff that they've been outright wrong. Like I know Sean Ross saps, one of the biggest in the game. He point blank, like basically staked his reputation on it. The day of survivor series, 2023, the CM punk is not going to be here, you know? And then what do you know? He shows up. So it seems like
00:52:05
Speaker
WWE is definitely button up their operations. They've been a lot better at pulling off the surprises for us. um But you know wrestling fans, the following the stuff behind the scenes is sometimes just as much, if not more compelling than following what's what's happening and inside the scored circle. So I think those guys are always going to be relevant and always going to have a place no matter how accurate they are or not. People are just thirsty to read this shit.
00:52:25
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, in ah in an age of misinformation, like, you know, are we really gonna like nitpick Uncle Dave, you know, and um all all of these people who are feeding us information. and Like you said, it's like, it makes it more like, you know, a reality show, right? Like you're watching a show and you're just you're getting all the the drama behind the scenes. And what's cool is like, you know, now we're in an age where like they can, turn they literally turn that drama into storylines and, um you know, capitalize on it and give us Give us it on a on the big screen yeah with the same point set their own fees been built by as much of this happen on social media as it has you know in inside the ring yeah for sure.
00:53:01
Speaker
um Kyle Haas, he says, with the recent lines like Ruthless Aggression, Monday Night Wars, do you think a new generation line could work? And what other era would you like to see a dedicated line for? He said his pick for the first new gen wave would be Duke the Dumpster Drozy, Bob Spark Plug Holly, Shawn Michaels from Royal Rumble 95 Gear, and Crush with a builder figure, Mr. Fuji. Dude, I'm all about that. Give me multiples of all those, man. New generation would be my pick, dude. To me, you know me, I'm new generation over the attitude era, man.
00:53:33
Speaker
I think that's really the only set we haven't had get represented. you know The Golden Era is kind of there with Coliseum Collection and you get a a lot of bleed over with the Legends line. I'd say those are kind of Golden Era sets. but Attitude Era is really right there with Monday Night Wars. We had a Ruthless Aggression set. yeah Anything past Ruthless Aggression, enough time hasn't passed to really be nostalgic. It's all kind of been one real era since new Ruthless Aggression kind of faded out. so I think New Generation is well deserving of its own line. and you know Oh, it's right. I think it's prime for people to be nostalgic for it, man. Those are so many bright, colorful characters too. Yeah. And entering action was pretty good. Like I said, I think the new generation era, as much as people shit on it at the time, I think it's really aged really, really well. Go back and watch any of those early in your house paper views. There's some really good stuff on those, especially in the undercard matches. And if you don't want to go back and watch, just go listen to the new generation podcast because it's the most entertaining thing. Yeah, new generation project podcast. Yeah, the best wrestling podcast ever, besides the Chick Foley show, obviously.
00:54:28
Speaker
um But yeah, I think new gin would be great man. That'd be awesome If that's the next thing we get once the once the Monday Night Wars kind of runs it runs its course Yeah, I need I need a whale of mercy figure, you know, yeah, wouldn't that be cool? That would be really neat man I don't know what you would call it because there wasn't really a catchphrase to it early 90s WCW would be great to you man Like 1990 through 1992 WCW was great, but there wasn't I don't know how you market it man I guess you could just call it, you know best WCW if you wanted to but That'd be kind of neat. Um, that'd probably be my second choice besides new generation. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I mean, what would be, what, what else is be untapped like that? Then they've done everything. The territories, all the stuff earlier. You know what I mean? If you want to go do like power towns, doing some of those. I mean, it was going to say even like power towns doing that stuff now, you know, it's not a lot, not a lot of ground left to be covered. Yeah. Um,
00:55:17
Speaker
Great question, though. I love the build a figure, Mr. Fuji. We we desperately need that. ah Brian Vermeer, with the Legends Ultimates now being some of my most wanted figures, what are some that haven't been announced that you would like to see? For me, it's Satanka and Repo Man. Like I said, Black and Purple Undertaker, that's still my favorite Undertaker. I'd love to see that. That's probably my most wanted Legends Ultimate Edition right now. What's an old school Ultimate Edition you want, Shane? I don't know. I'm trying to think um an old school. I don't know. you know
00:55:49
Speaker
I don't know. You don't have anything? No, I don't have anything. Sorry, my my brain isn't working. It's 1030. I'm not good on the spot at, you know, past my bedtime. You don't got any more suggestions? I could go for days. Yeah, I mean, I'll take any of them, dude, but black and purple undertakers, definitely my number one. and um Tony Barker, have you sampled any of the past Raw archives on Netflix? If so, have you run into any issues with missing episodes? He went looking for a Mick Foley, Terry Funk street fight from 98 and it wasn't listed. I have not, man. I kind of just checked once to see what all was on there. If you just search WWE on Netflix, but i have I haven't, you know, dove into the archives yet. All right. And Brett Sharrow. Oh, he said ah he's asking about Pence's debut. Let's see if he asked anything specific that ah
00:56:35
Speaker
that we haven't covered yet. No, I'm just talking about who who would come over from de orfra who would come over now to WWE. He also says, oh, have you guys started any new collections lately? I recently got back into Pokemon. I was a child of the 90s, so obviously it was a huge part of my childhood and the kids are huge into it. It's become something for us to do together and is also kind of addicting. ah He said, I bought one box and pulled a valuable card and I've been chasing that high ever since. Been tempted to get back into the into sports and wrestling cards too. That's pretty cool, man. I'm actually kind of paring down some of the collecting that I'm doing, so I have it. I know Sheena's got a pretty mean book collection. She's getting started with that. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, you get sucked in because you follow like, you know, the bookish Instagram accounts and you see all their like beautiful bookshelves with all this. And I'm just like, and some of these people read like, you know, 175 books in a year. I'm just like, what the hell are you reading all these books?
00:57:24
Speaker
Um, but, uh, yeah, I would love to have a big nasty book collection. You're collecting, um, true pints, you know, talk about your true point. I mean, that's been something we've had for years. That's partly a collection true, but you know, hydro flash, true pints, the best, uh, beer glass, really any kind of any kind of glass. yeah They've been discontinued for about four years and slowly been, uh,
00:57:43
Speaker
piecing together some of the you know the missing colors that we haven't had. Yeah, they had save searches yeah we we've been on TruePint since day one, but we kind of just like you know got into ah a rabbit hole where we were like, you know what, we need we need more of these. And they have a newer version. um It's not quite the same. it's a more of a tumbler than a yeah true ah true pint glass. ah Kevin Eugene, this I guess is a question specifically for you. As a wrestling figure historian, can you go over why certain guys like Martel, Akeem, Marty Gennady Demolition and Legion of Doom are on the outs with WWE and hence No More Legends? So demolition and Marty Gennady, they were both Marty Gennady's got a ton of, ah you know, outside the ring stuff that I think just makes him not attractive for for the main, you know, figure companies, whether it be Jax or Mattel to work with as much. That's why we only got that one stray legends figure all those years ago for Marty.
00:58:33
Speaker
um Akeem and Demolition were both involved in the concussion lawsuit. There was a big, huge class action concussion lawsuit against WWE back in the the early 2000s, 2010 to 2015 or so. Ton of guys involved in that. you know There was actually a Coco beware elite that was announced for Elite 44 and ended up getting canceled because he was part of that lawsuit. So that's why those guys have were were on ice for a long time as far as WWE relations go.
Rick Martell's Career Transition
00:59:01
Speaker
rigmart tells a dude that uh once he got out of wrestling he got involved with real estate up in canada was actually fairly successful and for whatever reason he just closed that chapter of his life on wrestling and really wanted not much to do with it he appeared at very few cons Um, just didn't really have a whole lot of of activity at all, man. Wasn't, wasn't super, just as a guy that for whatever reason was not nostalgic for his wrestling career and trying to hang on to that. I think it's just cause you know, he had this successful second career once, uh, you know, once his time in WCW ended there in the late nineties. Luckily for us, um, it seems like that door has been cracked back open somehow. You know, he's got the big rubber guys model LJN style figure coming out. Our buddy Mitch signed him for grapplers and gimmicks for some retro style figures. Um,
00:59:45
Speaker
And hopefully that means he's open to a legends deal. I mean, get some more Rick Martell figures. We need to strike force Martell and we need to update and model because that original model legend figures, one of the greatest figures in the entire Mattel line, even after all these years. Yeah, it's super old from legend series four. But that's why. Yeah. So just various reasons.
Reconciliation of WWE Relationships
01:00:02
Speaker
Luckily, like I said, the same thing seemed to be thawing out a little bit on those relations from the guys that were in the concussion lawsuits. We saw Coco beware featured at the the first of the reboot of Saturday Night's Main Event. So hopefully demolition soon to follow. Man, those are probably the the biggest missing ones, but yeah, just various reasons why why things fall out over the years so with the legends. The great thing about the wrestling industry is we've seen some of the most bitter antagonistic relationships between the WWE and these wrestlers, you know, and they're still able to make amends. Look at Bret Hart. Look at the ultimate warrior. So everybody can come back home eventually. It's just sometimes it takes a little bit of time.
01:00:37
Speaker
and that was your episode of Wrestling History with Seth Phelps. um Last question, Brian Vermeer.
Conclusion and Promotions
01:00:44
Speaker
How's the weather? Speaking of thawing out. It's cold. Still cold. It's still- Not as cold, but it's still cold. Yeah, it's still cold. I um i don't hate it. i just you know For me, the biggest pain in the ass is just like you know I have animals and I have the water situation. like Anytime if you have any sort of like outdoor animals and it's freezing outside, like going and busting up water is just an absolute pain pain in the ass. And also having to get my kids like five layers of clothes on yeah before they- Yeah, it's way easier in the summertime. Send them out with shorts and no shirt. Yeah, before they go outside. But um yeah, it's cold. Days are getting longer though, slowly but surely. you know we've We've passed the ah you know the threshold and days are starting to extend a bit.
01:01:24
Speaker
All right, that's a wrap for this episode of the Chick Foley show. I want to remind you guys to use code Chick Foley to save 10% at ringside collectibles and find links to all things Chick Foley at www.chickfoli.com. Sheena, hit us with some closing thoughts and we'll get out of here. Have a great night and we'll talk to you next week.