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The boys discuss the college football playoff field and catch up on an explosive weekend of NFL football.
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Countdown to Christmas, NFL, and College Football
00:00:15
Speaker
What is up goal line listeners? We are back with another action-packed episode of the goal line football show. Jordan, what is going on, man? Not too much, man. it's yeah just The countdown to Christmas is on. The countdown to and NFL playoffs and college football playoffs is on. We are were winding down the the year as we speak.
Recording Delay Explained
00:00:36
Speaker
Yeah, a little bit coming to you guys a little bit later this week on ah Tuesday, I was actually in Texas last week, as we mentioned, you know, we recorded live from, ah from Fort Worth. I was right there on base. um And I didn't get back to late, late Sunday night. So had to spend yesterday getting back unpacked, restarted in with the family and we want to let the dust settle. um If it's not a super compelling Monday night game, we found that, you know, it's been a couple of times this year where we've Our podcast has been slightly dated by the time most of you guys are listening because there's been some big bombshells dropping on ah on Tuesday. So you know it kind of works for us. We'll see. Most of the time it's going to be Monday night recordings, especially earlier in the season. But we may mix around the the timeline a little bit as the rest of the season plays out. ah Jordan, you ready to get into some football talk? Let's do it.
Vegas Weekend Plans and Drinks
00:01:31
Speaker
Hey, real quick, I heard you popped the top on something as we were starting. What are you drinking tonight, man? Just a bushlight. Nice. Trying to keep a light this week. This is going to be a really long weekend for me. So I'm going to Vegas this weekend for the Falcons game, and it's going to be a burner of a weekend.
00:01:49
Speaker
Yeah, I'm drinking a a vision board sour at a crosstown brewing element. So it's it's a good one, man. I've gotten it a few times over the years since we've ah since we've lived here. Let's get into it.
Falcons' Struggles and Speculation
00:01:59
Speaker
Oh, I really don't want to. um I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time on this game. Just absolutely fucking pathetic out of the Falcons.
00:02:09
Speaker
I shouldn't say it's absolutely pathetic. I knew the Vikings were a good team heading into this game. Kurt cousins is just miserable at this point. Like, I mean, now we're four games without him throwing a touchdown pass, throwing eight picks over that span.
00:02:24
Speaker
He just misses a lot of guys that he shouldn't be missing. And I mean, they had 500 yards offense and scored 21 points. like i just He was looking like like prime Kirk earlier you know this season after the first couple of weeks, man. Do you think maybe he's got ah some injury that that they're not disclosing? Or what what do you attribute this slump to? Because it's been bad the last few weeks. I mean, he's not young.
00:02:46
Speaker
like not young coming off of torn Achilles. Like I can't imagine that's easy at any age, let alone his age. I just, I don't know. that um I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out, there's something that, you know, maybe it's not quite enough to, to get mentioned on the injury report, but it's, you know, something that's nagging at him. That's not letting him be at his best man. Um, yeah, it wouldn't be the first time a team has been less than forthcoming with ah those injury report updates. I think a lot of it too. And I had mentioned this when you were high on the Falcons, you were like, I think this team's really good. I think you're, you're too low on them. When they were six and three, I kept saying, I was like, man, I just, I have a bad feeling about this team that it could all come crashing down at any minute. And it has like, it's just cousins looks bad. The defense will look good for a quarter or so. And then they just give out. I mean, it's just,
00:03:39
Speaker
They have no pass rush.
Buccaneers' Recent Performance
00:03:42
Speaker
It's just ugly. The first half looked good because they were rushing the passer a lot. They were blitzing and then as usual, the other team adjust and the Falcons can't. So it's just.
00:03:52
Speaker
I don't know, man, six and and in the meantime, the, uh, the books had bounced back from that little streak that they're at and they're looking pretty solid and primed for another playoff. I mean, I don't know if I'd call them solid the last two weeks, they beat, uh, the saints and the Panther or not the saints who the hell did the books play this week that they almost lost to again. Oh God, I can't even remember.
00:04:15
Speaker
Hold on, I got it pulled up right here. The Bucks this week. Yeah, I've watched the the Raiders. No, they beat the Raiders 28-13, man. They beat the Raiders 28-13. But yeah, they did have trouble putting away the Panthers week before that. But you know the Bucks have been banged up too, man. like They're not at 100%. If you look at the scoreboard, it has been the most impressive. But I like what I'm seeing when I when i watch them play, man. They damn near beat ah you know that a tough or you know at the time with it. They were a tough 49ers team a few weeks back. I don't know, man. i think that I think the Bucks are a solid little team, dude. I mean, that game was 14 to 10 going into the fourth quarter. I wouldn't exactly call that a dominating performance. Yeah, the final score looks better, but
00:04:52
Speaker
I still don't think that team is that good. But I mean, today they've won, they've won three straight, dude. Their last, their last five games, man, they lost to the chiefs by six lost to the Niners by three. Then they beat the giants 30 to seven and beat the Panthers and beat the Raiders, man. I, uh, I think your, your bucks hate, dude, is is painting your, uh, your vision a little bit here, man. Well, hopefully they lose this weekend. Cause something needs to give like the, this is not good, but.
Preview: Falcons vs. Raiders
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Speaker
Yeah. Anyway, back to the thought. So are you, are you going to the game Sunday in Vegas, man? Are you like, monday night hard for that are you, it's, oh, it's Monday night. Nice. Uh, are you rooting hard for the, uh, for the Falcons or are you going there? Like, yeah is it going to be like your Twitter feed come to life at the, at the, uh, uh, stay. No, I'm rooting for him. Definitely. I mean, you never want to go watch your team lose. Like it's just never fun, but.
00:05:46
Speaker
I'm, I think this is going to look a lot like the, the Titans Colts game you and Hawk went to earlier this season. I just, the only difference about this game is there's going to be juice. Cause it's at least in Vegas and it's a Monday night game. But outside of that, like I could see this being a really ugly football game. I mean, if things start going sideways is Rahim Morris going to hear from you? Yes. I mean,
00:06:10
Speaker
I know you remember this before the season and I know the listeners are gonna remember it I was Completely unimpressed with this hire and this is the exact reason why he's a player's coach He's not gonna make a change unless it's absolutely necessary which to me right now. It's absolutely necessary, but This is one of the things I was down on man. I mean his record as a head coach is not good He wasn't good as the Falcons interim head coach I just I didn't understand the hire and now it's really looking bad and I don't know, man. I just, I feel like the Raiders are, they're tanking, like they're tanking a different way than the Titans. Like they keep the games close and stuff, but the Raiders need to get the number one pick. Like that. I mean, they got to take a game changer and I, I all signs point to Shador being the Vegas quarterback next year. So it would be the most Vegas thing ever for the Raiders to completely blow this and not end up with the number one pick. but
00:07:09
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I think as of now, I would guess they're trying to lose without trying to lose. is that That's what you're banking on for Monday night? No, I'm not banking on that. i Dude, if Kirk Cousins keeps playing the way he's playing, it doesn't matter who the fuck they're playing. I mean, if you're throwing it to the other team twice a game, like the the odds are you're probably going to lose. So no, I'm not banking on that at all. that They could come out and lose by 30 and I wouldn't be shocked.
Titans' Season and Calvin Ridley
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They're just not good. Yeah, it's crazy how far out they followed in the span of a month. Yeah. Um, speaking of fallen, uh, the Titans have fallen and they are not getting up. Losing to Mack Jones at home is basically the cherry on top of, uh, the shitastic Sunday. It was, it was like a third, third of the way full, um, uh, Nissan stadium also managed. Yeah, definitely a depressing scene. The Calvin Ridley is proven to be like,
00:08:03
Speaker
I don't know how it leads in the league. So I'm sure you probably weren't watching it that closely. The Titans had a like a third and six, man, driving down. They're inside the red zone with less than two minutes left. They throw at the Calvin Ridley on a little out route. He's got room to turn up field and get the first down. And he runs out of bounds, like three yards shy of the sticks. And then next play, they throw an incomplete pass. I mean, the time wasn't a factor. The Titans still had timeouts. Plenty of time left. And dude just steps out of bounds for I don't know if he was just being a puss or, uh, you know, lack of situational awareness. I don't know what the deal was, but it was, it was, it it looked horrible in the moment. And then when you see the replays, it's even worse. Like I just, I got no time for Calvin Ridley anymore. Yeah, he's not definitely not performed at the level he should. I mean, this is kind of who I thought the Titans were going to be after about two or three weeks of the season. I mean, they're just, they're not good. It's just not a great, good football team.
00:09:01
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Do you think we'll let us have shown enough that you trust him for another couple of seasons or do you think this ah another couple of seasons? No, I think he's earned. I think his play over the last month, assuming that he continues this stretch through the.
00:09:16
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Assuming he continues this stretch through the end of the season. I think he's definitely earned the right to, to hit next season with full support, man. Ever since he came back from that injury, he's been playing really well, making sport of plays, turning over the ball less. He's just, dude he's tons of drops, dude. His guys drop passes for him. Nick Westbrook, bikini had a bad drop touchdown pass and the O-line still sucks, man. Tully Pollard is going to some good support in the rush game, but the pass protection is just really, really bad. Um,
00:09:41
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and you know I don't want to sound like I'm making excuses for him, because there's definitely still some room to improve. But he he has been a much better quarterback over the last, like I said, over the last four or five weeks. And I think at a minimum, if he keeps this up, he at least deserves to roll into next year with the full support of the coaching staff, not and looking over his shoulder at some fresh hot rookie or some veteran that they pick up. I think he needs to be the unquestioned starter going into the next
College Football Playoff Analysis
00:10:04
Speaker
season. And you know we'll have one more year in kind of an extended evaluation mode. OK.
00:10:09
Speaker
Um, all right, let's stop talking about our shitty football teams and move on to something that's actually exciting. Uh, let's talk about the college football playoff. So we, here maybe we have the set field. Um, I dunno, I just want to get your initial takes. Did you, were you surprised that SMU got in over Alabama?
00:10:31
Speaker
No, I don't just cuz you know the three losses you can't it's it's it would have been really tough if that SMU Clemson game happens in the last game of the regular season I think you got a different conversation But I would have some serious heartburn just from a fairness standpoint if they penalized a team for losing on an, you know, it would have been an an incredible field goal for an NFL team, but especially at the college level, you lose on an absolutely incredible field goal on the last play of the game in the conference championship. I think that'd be pretty bad for him to penalize that team and drop them all the way out of the playoffs. So I didn't have any beef over it, man. I get it, dude. Alabama is definitely one of the 12 best teams in the country, but the the season's got to mean something, man. If we're not If we're going to totally, you know, I know there's some subjective stuff that goes into it, but if we're going to just totally throw out the records and the results on the field, then why haven't played a regular season? Why not just decide at the start of the year, look at the recruiting and look at who's coming back from last season and go ahead and decide then, you know, what 12 teams we're going to roll out there. Also, Alabama had their chances. They lost to a six and 16 and a five and 17 in the regular season. like
00:11:33
Speaker
They needed to go, if they go one and one against Oklahoma and Vandy, they're in the playoff, but they went O and two, man. So yeah, I don't, I'm not shitting tears for them. And the, dude the beautiful thing about it is we're arguing about, you know, the, the, the, the number 12 and 13 team not getting in as opposed to last year where we had an undefeated floor state and I get in every team that deserves to have a chance to play for the national championship is in there, dude. We're, we're arguing about kind of the, you know, who's the guys who should have got a, you know, should have got a ah hail Mary shot at this thing.
00:12:00
Speaker
Okay. So let's go through the seating. So Oregon, obviously the unquestioned number one team. I don't even think this is even remotely debatable, uh, Georgia to also not even remotely debatable. If you're asking me, they're a tough team, man, a little bit of inconsistency, but overall, I still think Georgia, you know, my family's life on the line. I'm probably trusting it to Georgia to go out there and win me a college football game, uh, Boise state at three.
00:12:26
Speaker
I'm actually glad they got rewarded for the season that they had. yeah Again, there there we'll talk about what we think needs to be tweaked about this in the future, but they're legit though, man. One loss was to, you know, they barely lost to Oregon. They get them in Ohio state of the two teams that gave Oregon the biggest run for their money this year. So they're definitely, I mean, I get it. They definitely not week in and week out, have the same kind of schedule, but they put together a solid campaign. And I think they're a threat. I think they, they have a chance to win this man. Yeah. And they have the Heisman runner up. I'm w I think we're all assuming Travis hunters winning this weekend. So, yeah um, yeah, they deserve it. Uh, Arizona state, man, four seed, you' coming on they came are really strong at the end of this season. Um, I, uh,
00:13:10
Speaker
I don't know if they're good enough to beat the winner of the game they're going to play. But yeah I mean, yeah this is still deserved. They came on really strong at the end of the year. Yeah, they definitely deserve to be in there. I don't know if they necessarily the four seed, but they 100% belong, man, because they're they're finishing red hot. And they're a scary team, man. If you're the you know if you're the Penn State's freaking Texas's of the world seeing this team, because they're playing with house money, right? They're not even supposed to be here, dude.
00:13:36
Speaker
like they And they're red hot they can play loose. They got nothing to lose, you know cam scataboo got didn't make the Heisman finalist That's that even more of a chip to their shoulder like the this team is They're gonna be fired up and ready to go man. Yeah um How about the du also dude? Also, can we give like I don't know if we need to do a moment of silence or 12 play taps We got look to sleep the pack 12, bro They said y'all want to get rid of us look what happened. They go out and win the free cam They go out and win the the big 12 and Eric, excuse me the big 10 Yeah, the big 12 and the big 10 and so shout out to the the ghost of the pack 12
00:14:09
Speaker
Dude, before the season, when everybody was talking about Oregon is not built for the big 10. It's I was just, I could not believe people were saying that before the season, like dude, Oregon is a top five. They get a top five recruiting class every year. That that team can be built for whatever they need to be built.
00:14:27
Speaker
what What was, yeah what was the, what was the thing that they weren't built for the big 10? They, I just think that they, everybody just assumes they're just like a normal West coast team that can't go into the cold. And dude, no idea. Organism 80 degrees and like, this isn't LA it's fucking or North.
00:14:45
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like yeah They've always been built on having tough hard nose defense do you know they were they recruit a lot of people out of Hawaii and Samoa man some big hard hitters and even when they were spreading it out dude like back in the mariota days it was still a run based attack man everything they did was you know you know you you think up tempo spread offense you're thinking you know a lot of passing but they ran the ball a ton throughout you know this damn near 20 year run that they've had now where they've been one of the top tier teams in college. Yeah. They're the Kings of the RPO. They were the ones that fucking made it work more than anybody. Um, okay. The rest of the match ups, you got Tennessee at Ohio state. Obviously Seth's going to have a problem with this. I just did. I mean, you can't complain too much about it because just like you're talking about Alabama losing those games, Tennessee lost to a Arkansas team. But I just, I think Ohio state is,
00:15:33
Speaker
is just overrated, man. um I don't, I don't think that they were penalized as much as they should have been for getting their ass kicked by Michigan, man. I really feel if I had one change on this bracket, it would be putting, I think this game should have been at Tennessee, man. I think Tennessee had a tougher schedule.
00:15:47
Speaker
um Yeah, I just, I would have put them, them ahead of that. I will say after watching that big 10, big 10 championship, I always want to say freaking, uh, big 12 instead, man. But yeah, big 10, um, and that when it gets Penn state is a little bit more impressive to me because Penn state, they went out there. I was not expecting them to go toe to toe with Oregon like that. PIM state, Penn state played a damn good game on Saturday night.
00:16:09
Speaker
Yeah. That Ohio state win ah at Penn state is way more impressive now. Like that, yeah that out of this weekend, that came out as one of the better wins. So, um, when it was looking, you know, last week I was really fired up about it, but after Saturday night, I was kind of just at ease with it. And you know, I'm just glad Tennessee's getting, to getting a chance to play. It's going to be a good game. Um, Indiana is the 10 seat at Notre Dame. I mean, whatever.
00:16:36
Speaker
uh, Clemson at Texas. Again, I just, ah dude, I think, dude, I'm not sure I got a friend I work with, man, who's a hardcore Texas fan. Dude, I don't know that I don't think Clemson is going to win that game, man. I am not sold on Texas. played two Yeah. The only, only, you know, big,
00:16:56
Speaker
Big top ten teams they played man was Georgia twice and they got beat by they both times. yeah Yeah, so I I'm not yeah I'm not super impressive I did I get that it's a tough conversation But you got to think like Steve Sarkeesian with his inner circle. They're talking about What do we do at quarterback, man? You can't help but wonder if if arch manning plays that game, did they win, dude? So I posted this on Twitter and the fucking tweet went like viral that Texas lost because when you were sucks.
Texas QB Situation: Ewers vs. Manning
00:17:25
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Well, my exact words were when yours is asked because I still don't think when yours is good, like.
00:17:31
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And everybody's like, look at his stats. I'm like, did you watch the fucking game? Dude, they had no less than four or five touchdowns that should have been scored. If Quinn Ewers was even remotely good. He's not fucking good, man. I just, I don't get it. Like he's a good quarterback, but when you have arch waiting in the wings, like um Yeah, I think when yours put you in a tough spot because everything we see and hear about him He sounds like he's got all like the great leadership and tangibles and stuff, man I'm sure he's you know, what beloved by his teammates and he is good. dude I don't think he's asked man I think he's a pretty damn good quarterback, but he's clearly he shrinks a little bit in the big games We've seen it a few times now and you got this dude who's potentially a absolute generational talent um Yeah waiting in the wings and the little bits and pieces we've seen of him is it seems like that dude it seems like it seems like he has got the juice man like he is he's really going to be something dude and you know when i was again i was talking to my friend at work about it dude to me it seems couldn't you just play small man he looks small out there sometimes when i see him in these big games you don't know if it's just the body language the way he plays or what
00:18:39
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It just seems like he kind of just shrinks, man, in these ah these these big moments. and And I don't think Arch is going to do that, man. Arch Manning, when you see him out there, he's looking confident. He's looking loose. I don't know. we haven There hasn't been any sort of you know confirmed rumblings or anything like that that they're even thinking about making a change. But you wonder if it gets to the you know midway through the second quarter and Clemson's winning 10 to 3. What do you do if Texas goes out there and puts another 3 and out or something? Yeah. It's going to be interesting. ah Last game, we got SMU at Penn State. Here's your reward for getting in the playoffs. SMU go play Penn State on Saturday morning in in a whiteout. like Best of luck to you.
00:19:22
Speaker
Yeah, that's going to be a tough one, man. SMU is a good team, man, but and I was really impressed with what I saw it at Penn State. So it's going to take a hell of an effort for them to ah then to keep up and and not get bounced in the first round. But the great thing is either way, smashing success for SMU this year. 100%. My first reaction to this is,
00:19:43
Speaker
Jesus Penn State literally got gifted the easiest road ever to get to the Final Four. Like, I know Boise State is a good team, but I just, I really struggle to believe that Boise State is going to be Penn State. I mean, that's the thing and about but you know Boise, the Boise States of the world, like they can look really good, but they're never going to have the depth to match the heavyweights, even with the, the NIL and the transfer portal level in the playing field somewhat.
00:20:11
Speaker
You're still you're never gonna be as deep as you know The Penn State's the Ohio State's the Alabama's of the world They can just keep wearing on you and unless you can blow them out the doors in the in the first half You know you the they're gonna keep having fresh pass freshers coming after you the second half um It's it's just an uphill battle for those teams. It's why you had to see back in the day You know Boise State's got to bust out all the the trick plays do all the crazy shit to get these wins over the big teams man But we've seen them do it before man. They've done it before and they got you know Ashton Gentes is good a player as Boise State has ever had at their school Um, it's going to be fun, but yeah, that's, it's definitely a, ah you know, Penn state's definitely looking like they came out the best out of, uh, at any of the teams in the, in the bracket. Now, how in the fuck does Oregon get Ohio state or Tennessee with who the rest of these teams are possibly playing in round two? Like I, I get it the way the seating fell, but dude, there is no way they should be playing Ohio state or Tennessee right out of the gate. Like I just yeah, I think a reseed would be the way to go man. Just cause the, with the buys, it doesn't work. Cause there's so much variance, right? Like I get it. If it was a traditional 18 tournament, the one team would be playing the eight seed, but there's no guarantee that that eight seed is going to be the, you know, that eight seed can be in the highest ranked team that makes it out of those first round games, man. So, you know, we, we talked about it last week, man. They're locked into this format through next season. I think we're going to see, you know, a set of moderate tweaks to, ah to the format for 2026, but great. thing is, man, I still think the stuff we're arguing about it's, it's, it's small, it's small for us compared to some of the misses we've had in the past with the the first decade of the college football will playoff. And then prior to that, especially when we had just the old BCS where you have a computer spitting out two teams. so Okay, so having said all that, ah don't pick your winner, but pick the two teams you think end up playing for the national title.
00:22:03
Speaker
two teams playing for the national title. I think it's going to, I do think it's going to end up being Georgia and Oregon, man. I think, I think that's what we're going to see. Yeah. I think they're the, you know, obviously Georgia had its hiccups, but they're still this damn near NFL roster that they're rolling out there, man. I still got faith in Carson Beck. He will announce he's probably not playing in their game. They, they're in the first game or they already announced that he's probably not playing in the first Georgia game.
00:22:29
Speaker
Yeah, so that's that's not good because I don't know how much of that game you watched, but that second string quarterback could not do much other than throw a screen pass at the line. He threw a couple downfield, but scramble around and stuff, man. Yeah, yeah he's definitely seen a little bit later, but you know that we have no idea how many reps he's even get, man. They got two weeks to get him ready, dude. Like I think they basically have three weeks to get him ready.
00:22:50
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Yes. I think that'd be okay. Notre Dame would be tough for them though, man. Notre Dame's got a tough defense. That would be a tough game for Georgia. The quarterback's a good runner. yeah Notre Dame would be easy. Notre Dame's fully loaded also. I'm with you, dude. I do think it's going to be Oregon and Georgia. The one team on the other side, I think Oregon's getting through that side yeah unless some like major injury happens. Penn State is the one team on the other side that I mean, that could be a problem for somebody like James Franklin's known to shrink in big games. But I mean, let's be honest, SMU and Boise state, he wouldn't face his first big game until he got to the final four. And then you just got to win one. So yeah, I don't know, man, it's gonna be interesting.
00:23:32
Speaker
ah That's it for college football talk. Let's go back to NFL. um Lions Packers on Thursday night. That was probably one of the more entertaining Thursday night games that we're ever going to get. Just two evenly matched teams. ah The Lions with a coach that never going to change, man. Dan Campbell is never going to change. Like he can very easily end up screwing them out of this entire season, but got to give the dude credit. He's got some of the biggest balls in the world to to run some of these plays. He does. I mean, that fourth down call was completely unnecessary. And
00:24:09
Speaker
Just, I'm big on process over results, man. And I don't care if they get any process that you're going through where you're like, yeah, this is the the risk is worth the reward on this man. Again, it worked out, dude. So he gets to, you know, he got last laugh, man. And he's the one that's, that's asses on the line making these calls. So like you said, more power to him, but As a neutral fan, I just did not like that because you're potentially you know you're potentially losing the game for your team off that man or you know given giving life to the opponent um when you know you wouldn't necessarily have to. so
00:24:41
Speaker
It's just, dude again, um I mean, I've been calling it all season, dude. I think we're going to have another crash and burn in the playoffs. And I think this time some of that heat's going to stick to old Dan. The one thing about him though, man, is when they interview the players after the game and stuff, like they are 100% behind what he's doing. Oh yeah. I mean, they would yeah i love it yeah the play do they want to go out and put the knife in the man i get it they literally gave the Packers a touchdown earlier in that game by going forward on fourth and one from their own 30, which i I just don't, I did not understand that call either. Like what the fuck are you doing, dude? Like punt the ball away. If I'm if i'm a player, I want, uh, you know, I would want to coach, it's coaching like that as well. But like you said, dude, if you have.
00:25:24
Speaker
You know, one too many of those calls go against you in a game. You end up costing yourself on a ah game that you might otherwise should have walked away with ah an easy win. Look at like the NFC Championship last year, man. That's still unforgivable. And I think i think because the the Lions you know kind of overachieved a lot on people's expectations last year, I feel like he kind of got a free pass. I don't think he's going to get that same free pass if we see something similar play out this year. And I think it's clear at this point that the approach hasn't changed any, man. there I think he's going to, you know,
00:25:52
Speaker
he's going to run the the horse that brought him to the race at this point and they're going to keep this super aggressive ball to the wall style no matter what. He's definitely got the gunslinger mentality. So it's going to be interesting. But yeah, fantastic football game.
Rams vs. Bills Highlights
00:26:06
Speaker
Packers and still a great team. It's going to be interesting, man. ah Rams and Bills was obviously the game of Sunday. I just Josh Allen had one of the best games I've ever seen in my life from a quarterback and they still lost. That was like a Xbox. Yeah, it was like a game of Madden come to life, dude. just meant Defense providing minimal resistance on either side. Both QBs balling out, man. Matt Stafford had some absolutely.
00:26:32
Speaker
Gorgeous throws dude high degree of difficulty throws, ah you know poop and Akua Amazing plays, you know, I ended up what you know if you go on YouTube You can see the extended highlight packages for games and the one for this one's like 14 minutes long I sat there and watched the whole thing. and It was captivating edge. super high level offensive football being played. Not a lot of defense out there, but you know, in respect to the defense, man, sometimes when teams are putting up points like that real fast, the quick changes stuff, you never just getting worn out, man. It seemed like both defenses were just absolutely gassed there in the fourth quarter and whoever had the ball last was going to, uh, was going to get the win. But yeah, you know, awesome, huge win for the Rams and shout out to Josh Allen. That may be the best individual performance we see from anybody all season long. I I think he probably cemented MVP with that game. Um, yeah, I mean, assuming he doesn't have a complete collapse, the last four games, which I don't think he will. Um, yeah. Rams still as dangerous as ever. And dude, I will never understand how Sean McVay finds guys like Pook and Akua. He was the worst graded guy at the combine last year. And McVay took a shot on him in the fifth round. and
00:27:39
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Dude, he is so fucking good. Like, ah yeah, he's, a big he is really good. I mean, it's just, it's impressive to watch. Um, one thing that I wanted to wait a couple of weeks before we talked about this, but it's time to talk about it. Bryce young.
00:27:56
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we put this dude out to pasture. He turned out to be a pretty good little football player, man. I get some damn good plays. that thursday I think the argument can be made whether or not him or CJ shroud is a better quarterback at this point. Like I, I think the arguments, yeah. Since he came back, since he came back from if you judge from the time that he came back from you know getting the keys, took away from him for a little bit to this stretch, it's it's no doubt about it. He's been good, man. And if you if you watch the games, he's playing a little bit better than the stats show. yeah you know i mean like he's doing more He's doing a lot of stuff you don't see in the numbers. It worked out, again, I was driving home from Texas on Sunday. I had a i stopped for gas and to take a bathroom break, man. um
00:28:37
Speaker
as the two minute drill, you know, the last like two and a half, three minutes were kicking off on that game. So I decided to just chill in the car and watch the end of it, dude. And I was so impressed, man. I mean, he's a drop pass away from beating the Eagles in Philly, man, like yeah that right young man played a damn good game. He looked poised. He didn't look lost. He looked like he was having fun out there. You know, like you smiling, scrambling, making guys miss, like,
00:28:58
Speaker
Yeah, man, we were definitely wrong. And we you know to our credit, we did say that the dude was in an almost impossible situation with just the the current state of how things are being run with Carolina. he was He was fighting an uphill battle to be successful. But yeah, dude, it looks like he's turned it around, man. I'm glad to see it. Yeah, he deserves it.
00:29:16
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um Sunday night football, dude, you cannot convince me that this team does not have fucking black magic or some bullshit.
Kansas City's Fourth-Quarter Success
00:29:26
Speaker
Anybody else has the upright on that, that ball bounces straight back at him. Well, it's upright and somehow go straight back to the fucking goal. I just, I don't even understand it. it's chiny row They got the, they got the witches flying around. Andy reads, throwing, uh, throwing pages of the playbook into the fire and shit, dude. Like, yeah, they definitely got something going on, man. They had, they have the magic like nobody else.
00:29:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's just incredible. Eight straight AFC West titles. I mean, just insane. Did you see that stat that they threw up on that last drive? Patrick Mahomes is, I think now after that game, I think he's 26 and 26 all time in games that he's trailing in the fourth quarter. And that's the highest ever for any NFL player, even higher than Brady. I mean, and I don't doubt it. It seems like they always win at the last second. So.
00:30:14
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Uh, let's go into tank-a-thon. Uh, Vegas is now number one in the draft, uh, followed by the Giants, Patriots, Panthers, Jaguars, Titans, Jets, Cleveland, Chicago, and New Orleans round out the top 10.
00:30:32
Speaker
I think it's a two dog race between the the Raiders and the Giants, man. All the teams right above them, I could all see them sneaking out a win against somebody. They all got enough enough gas left in the tank that they could sneak a win or two down the stretch. Plus there's always going to be some squirrely results, man, where you have teams resting people for the playoffs and this and that. But I think i think we're down to Raiders and Giants, man. I would be willing to bet either one of those teams is going to take Shador if they had the chance. I mean, dude, you got to assume that And the Raiders need Shador more than anybody's ever needed somebody in their life. Brady's um part owner of the Raiders now, like I just, it it has to happen at this point. Like that's where he's got to go. Yeah, I believe it. That's it for football news, man. All right, let's get into our updated playoff watch.
00:31:44
Speaker
I got a few teams clinched a few teams eliminated this week. So now there was what you were sorry in this well, there was only one change this week outside of the teams that had clinched I think rather than pick it all again because it's the only matchup that changes the Tampa and Minnesota game. Everything else is the exact same.
00:32:03
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we'll We'll give an update on the teams. We can go and officially put the, put the one line through. So the giants still the only team out on the NFC, everybody else is still at least got some shred of hope though. The saints, Cowboys, bears and Panthers are all sitting at a less than 1% playoff probability. that Carolina can't make it. The, the seven seed has eight wins and they only have three and there's only four games left. But what does the books got? Oh, I forgot they can still win the division.
00:32:30
Speaker
Yeah, I said there's there's a chance, dude. Don't stay. Sometimes Hope, there may be a Panthers fan out there listening. That one, less than 1%, is keeping them alive, dude. Guys, jordan Jordan has always been a little bit more of the pessimist than i than me, dude. Don't let him fool you, man. We talked just talked about this resurgence of Bryce Young. that you know Maybe they're they're at less than 1% this week. Maybe next week, they're at 4%. Week after that, they're at 15%. You never
AFC Playoff Picture Update
00:32:54
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know, man. Hope springs the turtle.
00:32:56
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um AFC, we got a little bit clearer picture. We're down to 10 teams left alive as get ready for this. The Raiders, Patriots, Titans, Jets, Jaguars, and Browns are all officially eliminated. We weren't going to get playoff Jamis this year. ah It's looking pretty firmed up in the AFC too, man, because there's no, the teams that are out of it, like the closest team is still two games out, dude. So the Colts, Dolphins, and Bengals.
00:33:20
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or the three teams that are still alive. And even the Colts, they're setting at a 27% chance to make the playoffs. They're two games out of that last wild card for the Broncos and two games behind the Texans so um for the AFC South. So they're looking like a long shot, man. i think I think their best hope is that the Texans just kind of continue this little bit of a swoon that they've been on. And you know maybe Anthony Richardson continues to improve, but it's looking pretty firmed up, man. So um I'm not wavering, man. I'm still, I haven't seen anything to take me off Chiefs and Eagles for my Super Bowl pick. How about you?
00:33:49
Speaker
I'm just going to stay with the same one I had last week. I went lions and bills. I'm just going to stick with it. Okay. All right. You ready to get into this week's picks? let's do
00:34:19
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all Alright Jordan, how did we do last week, man? We both went 10 and 3, so season is sets up 6, 4, and 4. All right. Four ties, man. That's crazy. I mean, do we literally talk football for hours every week, man. I feel i feel like for the most part, we I think we see we have some stuff we're different on, but we really see the game very similarly. So I'm not surprised, man, that we tie that much. All right. ah Gonna have a fun one Thursday night. It's always a good time when we get to see Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh go toeto toe to toe. Niners fighting to stay alive. They're at six and seven. Got the Rams coming to town at seven and six.
00:35:01
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I'm going to go Rams.
00:35:04
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Yeah, I think so too, man. I think Niner's just a little bit too banged up, man. It's in San Francisco, but that's a pretty easy road trip for the Rams. um So you know that they are coming off a tough game in the late window on Sunday, which I think the Niners probably got a little bit more shot at this than you would think on face value. Vegas actually has the Niners as a two and a half point favorite. I was a little bit surprised to see that. um But yeah, I'm going Rams as well. Yeah.
00:35:28
Speaker
All right. The Ravens and the giants in New York. I think the Ravens crush on this one, dude. It's the Lamar might not play past five minutes into the third quarter. The Ravens need a massacre win really bad right now. Like they, they need to just destroy somebody and make it be known that they're still there. So yeah, I'm going to Ravens as well. Are the Ravens the most up and down team we got in the league this year by far? Like they're just seems crazy. It feels like when they're at their best, they're the best team in the league, but that I mean, do they have five losses? Yeah, they just, they're,
00:35:59
Speaker
I don't, I don't get it, man. Their offense is just, it's weird. I don't, I don't get it. All right. Uh, the giant, excuse me, the jets and the Jags, I'm sure both these teams trying to figure out a way they can lose. You know, the Jags got the unlikely win, uh, last week they were doing their dam to starting Mack Jones, but they ended up coming out with a win. I think this is safe to say this is going to be the toilet bowl of the week, man. we Me and Jordan were recording before the show.
00:36:22
Speaker
I kind of named off that they were really only five, but you know, we got a lot of exciting teams this year. Even the teams that have losing records, they usually have something that'll make you want to tune in. There's really only about five that are almost unwatchable. And these are two of them right here, dude. So the Jets and Jags down in Jacksonville. I'm going to go Jets just because I think they have better talent, but I could easily see the Jags winning this game. Yeah, same. This one. who Who knows, dude? Who knows what could happen on this? I'll say Jets, though.
00:36:52
Speaker
Cowboys and Panthers in Carolina. I'm gonna go Cowboys, man. I i just i think they get it done, dude. I still don't think the Panthers, even though we've given them a little bit of love, I don't think they're great. I think the Cowboys find a way to get the win here.
00:37:09
Speaker
I'm gonna go Carolina. Okay. I just, yeah dude, Dallas just lost one of their best players on defense last night. Over shown, um, is out for the season. Like that guy was holding that defense together a lot of weeks. I mean, granted, Michael Parsons is probably going to sack Bryce young 27 times this weekend and make me look like an idiot. But I just, I don't love what I see out of Dallas, man. I mean, grand, they're kind of a lost season at this point. so All right, Commanders and Saints in New Orleans. I'm going Commanders, awful bye. Yeah, they should bounce back. Hopefully they have a nice finish. They're another team that's been a little bit of a slump over the last month or so after they just had that. It seemed like they were living a charmed life the first two months of the season. So hopefully we see them bounce back because I think a hot Jayden Daniels one of the playoffs will be a lot of fun. They would. All right, Bengals and Titans in Nashville.
00:38:06
Speaker
Cincinnati should win this game easily. they they Cincinnati ought to be able to drop 50, dude. They really should, man. They should be able to carve the Titans up, but who knows what will happen, man? i mean ju Cincinnati's playing all playoff games at this point. Now granted, this could all be irrelevant, assuming the Ravens, Chargers, and ah Broncos win this weekend. All this could be irrelevant because the Bengals would be eliminated if all three of those teams win. but Yeah, I just, they're going to have to win. I mean, they're going to have to try their hardest to win this weekend. Yeah. I still think for as bad as the season's gone for Cincy, I still think they got, you know, number two, number three offense in the, uh, the league right now. And, and that should be enough to beat a Titans team. That's not in the top two or three at really anything you have to do with football. Yeah.
00:38:56
Speaker
ah Chiefs and Browns in Cleveland. I think the Chiefs want another squeaker, dude. I don't think this is going to be any kind of an easy win. I think we see, you know, we've seen fumbled snap. We've seen, you know, a toe on the line on the game winning touchdown. We've seen a field goal, joint off the upright. We've seen a blocks field goal in the last play of the game. Like what's, it's going to be something crazy, man. Jamis Winston's going to like throw a pass backwards out of the end zone for a safety or something.
00:39:20
Speaker
I mean, I could see it. He could run out of the back of the end zone too. Yeah, I think we get some sort of Jamis fuckery dude that leads to the Chiefs winning a game they shouldn't have. Yeah, I'm going Chiefs as well. Dolphins and Texans in Houston. I think Dolphins win, man. I think the Texans are as fraudulent as fraudulent gets. I think the Dolphins go in there and beat them. I did not love what I saw from the Dolphins on Sunday either though, like,
00:39:50
Speaker
I'm going to go Houston off of a by date. I just, I just don't think this team is as bad as what they're playing right now. I don't know, man. I just, I like the team they built. and I mean, like this could easily go either way. So I'll just go to Texans cause they're at home.
00:40:07
Speaker
Colts and Broncos in Denver, shout out the Hawk. I think the Broncos kicked the shit out of these guys, man. The Broncos are really good. I think they're actually a little bit better than that eight and five record shows. And, you know, going up to Denver is always a tough place to play. I think the Colts are, I still like, there's no way you can convince me this Colts team has won six games this season. Like that's nuts to me that they're setting one game below 500. I watched this game with my own two, I watched this team, my own two eyes and it was not pretty. um I say the Broncos win and win big. Yeah, I'm on Broncos as well.
00:40:35
Speaker
Patriots and Cardinals in Arizona. I'm going to go Cardinals. Yeah, Cardinals should be able to get it done, man. i like Where are you at on Drake May so far this year, man? are you ah I'm impressed. Is he somebody to watch? I'm impressed by him, honestly, with what the yeah or with what New England has on ah offense. I feel like he's done pretty well with what they've got. so Yeah, um he's definitely done the the best he can with what he's got.
00:41:00
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Yeah, I agree. All right, big game in Detroit, potential Super Bowl preview of US Jordan, Bills and Lions. I think the Lions win, man. I think being on i think being at is enough to give them the edge.
00:41:14
Speaker
um I mean, it wouldn't surprise me, but but obviously Josh Allen, you can win any game with that guy at quarterback. But I think the lions are a little bit more of a complete team. And I think we see, uh, uh, you know, these bills are going to be staring at, uh, you know, two straight losses in December and have to have to regroup a little bit going down the final stretch. I mean, they had to do the same thing and end of September, early October when they lost two in a row. I just,
00:41:40
Speaker
I think Detroit has to look at themselves and do they need to get home field advantage in the playoffs and the Eagles aren't going anywhere.
Lions' Playoff Home Field Advantage
00:41:46
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Detroit needs to just keep winning. I mean, they don't, there, there's no room for error. Cause I'm sorry, man. They need home field advantage in the playoffs. Cause if they have to go to Philly, I want to go to Philly. Yeah. That's the championship. No, that's not. So yeah, I'll go to trade as well.
00:42:01
Speaker
All right, Bucks and Chargers in l LA. It's a cross-country trip for the Bucks. I think the Chargers win, man. Chargers play a damn good football. Had been all year. I think they they hand the scrappy Bucks team a loss, man, but they're going to have to work for it. It's not going to be easy. I'm going Chargers as well, and I do think it's going to be really close.
00:42:18
Speaker
All right. Battle of Pennsylvania. This is a freaking prize fight, man. This should be an absolute slugfest. Steelers and Eagles in Philly. I think Steelers win, man. Jalen Hurts been, you know, not at absolute peak performance, dude. Like don't, don't just look at the touchdown numbers. Look at how this dude's actually playing play to play. I think that Steelers defense gets after him and frustrates a man. And, uh, and we see the Steelers go into Philly and get the win, man. I just, I, I, telling you, dude, as great as Josh Allen and the bills are, I still think the Steelers are the biggest threat to knock the Chiefs out of the AFC playoffs.
00:42:53
Speaker
This game is really tough for me to pick because it's a lot to like on both sides of the ball, man, and it being in Philly. Yeah, but you know, you're gonna have a ton of Steelers fans. I just don't.
00:43:06
Speaker
This AJ Brown shit, AJ Brown, Jalen Hurts shit is not going away. and There's just so much trauma. Look on Eagles Twitter, dude. There's a ton. the The Eagles fans do not like Jalen Hurts, man. I'll go Steelers as well.
00:43:23
Speaker
They were a drop. I mean, they were legit. They were a drop Xavier Leggett pass away from from losing to the freaking Panthers, dude. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm with you. i just I don't really like the vibe, Cornetta Philly, where it's two weeks ago, man. They were looking like an absolute killing machine. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe we were being too much knee jerk off one week. but I don't know. It feels like Pittsburgh's just got a ton of momentum. And like they're playing like classic Pittsburgh football. And I feel like this is like the 0-8 Steelers with Big Ben back there, man. Just the style of football they're playing right now with Russell Wilson at QB. Yeah, I agree.
00:43:55
Speaker
All right. Uh, let's go Sunday night football. This is another class, you know, old school rivalry from the early 2000s, man, like flashback to, to Matt Hasselbeck and Brett Favre in these jerseys. dayve We've got the Packers and Seahawks in Seattle. Um, I think the Packers and win, man. Seahawks are a good team, but I think the Packers got the potential to be a great team. And I think Jordan love it. And that offense goes in there and gets it done and in a really tough stadium on Sunday night.
00:44:20
Speaker
I think this is gonna be a really good game. I love what Seattle's doing defensively right now, but I just struggle to see Green Bay losing too straight. i They're just a really good team, man. They're a well put together team. And yeah, I'm gonna go to Green Bay as well. They they don't play they're necessarily their best, their A plus game week to week, but I just feel like they have a really, really high ceiling, man. Yeah, I agree. ah Vikings and Bears, Monday night, I think the Vikings win this. Yeah, no analysis at all.
00:44:48
Speaker
monument being one day Monday night, man. Falcons and Raiders with Jordan in the house. Falcons and Raiders. Uh, what do you had to see this one going, dude? I mean, I'm going to pick the Falcons just cause I just I mean, this is a must win game for them at this point. Like there's, they lose this. They lose. They're pretty much dead, right? Yeah, they're done at that point. I just, I don't think there's, I mean, seriously, the next two weeks they play the Raiders and the giants. Like they play two of the worst football teams in the NFL. The next two weeks, like if you're going to get right now's the time to do it. Um, I, I hope they win, man. That's all I can say.
00:45:30
Speaker
Will you be waiting in the parking lot for Kirk cousins if they lose? No, I'll be waiting in the parking lot for he Morris if they lose. What do you have off the top of your head quickly, man? Do you have what the Falcons all time record is with Jordan Wells in the house?
00:45:46
Speaker
It's not bad. I mean, so let's see. I went to Minnesota. They won the overtime game. Uh, Jordan's tabbing it up. I do think that the Falcons win, man. I guess I, I, I got to trust what my eyes saw last month, man. I think it's just a slump that Kirk cousins is in and I think there's still some life in these dirty birds yet.
00:46:08
Speaker
I think they're six and two or five and three in games that I've been to. Okay, so that's good. That that points the arrow up for Monday night then, man. Yeah. I hope they win, man. That'll be a rough trip back, dude. If they lose, is Ari going also or who you who you guys won with? It was just a boys trip. ah nice Just me and a couple of buddies are going. So yeah, it'll be fun, man. We're going to go to the, cup game that's in Vegas on Saturday as well. So who's playing it? Do they know who's playing in that? yeah Milwaukee won tonight. So it'll be Milwaukee verse either the Knicks or the Hawks. So that'll be fun as well, man. It's just, it's going to be a crazy weekend in Vegas. There's going to be a shitload of people there with everything that's
Vegas Bucks Game Plans
00:46:48
Speaker
going on. So I'm excited.
00:46:50
Speaker
If you guys get close enough to the floor, can you yell out to the Bucks that I picked them to win the and NBA Championship this year on our podcast? I'll be sure to let them know as they're 13 and 9 or whatever they are, 13 and 12. They just type up. All you gotta do is get in the f*** off stage. That doesn't matter to the NBA. Yeah, I'll be sure to let you honest know that Seth Phelps picked him to win it all. Alright, let's hit million dollar bets.
00:47:25
Speaker
All right, last week was not good for me. My NFC North parlay, which had hit ah two straight weeks, finally ran out of steam. And then somehow the Bills lost a game that Josh Allen had a combined six touchdowns man. So down 150,000 for me to take my total to 2,200,000. Both of Jordan's parlays missed as well. he's so He also lost 150,000. So it was basically a stalemate of a week. Jordan right now is setting it $2,323,000 for the season. I am at $2,210,000. So he's got about $120,000 lead on me. But I think we're going to change that up this week. First off, I'm going with ah the 49ers parlayed with the Ravens. So I'm going Ravens money line against the Giants and the 49ers with two and a half point spread against um against the Rams. They'll win $100,000 on that. That will win $353,881. Jordan, hit us with your bet. I love that you're betting the Niners after you just said the Rams are going to win. No, you know, I bet's a separate, you know, I've done that a handful of times. that's your only separate ah My first bet is going to be a commander's money line, chief's money line and bangles money line. A hundred thousand will win me 286 461.
00:48:43
Speaker
All right, my second bet, I'm going with a Super Bowl 50 or excuse me, AFC Championship 2022 combo Batman won Chiefs money line and Bengals money line. $100,000 parlay will bring back $221,356. Nice.
00:49:02
Speaker
My second one I'm going Packers money line Cardinals money line and then obviously I have to put the Falcons in a parlay since I'm going there 50,000 would win me 170,720 That Falcons might be the shakiest leg of that parlay dude.
Million-Dollar Bets Review
00:49:20
Speaker
Yeah, it's yeah, I'm not excited All right, that's a wrap for the the week 15 episode of The Goal Line. Is that right? week fit Yeah, we got four weeks left, man. It's crazy, dude. So week 15 episode of The Goal Line in the books. you know We're coming up on about two months left, man, for the second season of The Goal Line. I feel like it's coming by in a flash. Yeah, man. It's flying by. and
00:49:42
Speaker
next one week, when we talk to you guys, we'll, uh, we'll be doing picks for the college football playoffs. So yeah, it's, that's fun. It's, it's fine, man. It's bull season starts this Saturday. It's it is here.
00:49:56
Speaker
We definitely picked a fun year, man, to pick back up on the college football talk, dude. So I feel like last last year we touched on college, but we really didn't talk college that much last season. Yeah, dude, it's been so good this year, man. I'm fucking jacked for the playoffs, dude. i And I don't care what anyone says. I love bowl season, too. Just being able to turn on your TV in the middle of the day, and no matter if it's a meaningless game or not during the week, like, dude, Christmas week, there's there's just bowl games on at all times. Like, I love that shit.
00:50:22
Speaker
And you're always gonna get some crazy ass performance like last season in the bowl game Western Kentucky was down like 27 points and came back in one man like something That's just fun. Do you like you know they're going to the freakin Boca Raton Bowl this year. so We got something going forward to ah wouldn't Nebraska make it to the fucking, the Yankee bowl, the pinstripe bull people here are so fucking pissed too. Cause the flights out of Nebraska to a New York that week are like 1300 bucks for nonstop flights, which like what a terrible time to have to go to New York the week to pop to a travel destination for Christmas and New Year's. Like basically you're going to be leaving the day before new year's. It's not good. Yeah. People here are pissed, but I mean, they're still going to fill the stadium. Like there'll be a shitload of red at that stadium. So
00:51:09
Speaker
Alright, Jordan, hit us with some closing thoughts and
Vegas Trip Survival Closing Remarks
00:51:11
Speaker
we'll get out of here, man. Pray I survive, Vegas. Pray I come home with all the money and we'll talk to you guys next week.