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Season 3- Episode 30- It's a Monster (Premiership Round 21 & Super Rugby TT Round 4)
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It is a beast of a pod, so break it down however you need to. Wasn't a ton we could justify putting on the cutting room floor, apart from a barking dog. On this episode, we cut into SO MUCH, Springboks, Eagles, retirement, oh my. We delve into the officiating we'll see on the Lions series and that DC #9 that is oh so classy. We also duck into a little bit of the player's reasons for protests. Oh, there was rugby too!? Oh bother..yeah we dive into all the action from both the Prem and the goings on in the Trans Tasman area as well. Yup, we do one final, big, Start or Sit this week as well. Crack a few with us, have a laugh and enjoy folks.
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. This is a fancy ready to finish your day. I'm Ben. Let's get her going.
Rugby News and Events
00:00:13
Speaker
We got one. Thank you. New cycle. You gave us way too much to talk about way too much. I mean, it's not like there's nothing we can ignore either. Yeah. Like, oh, yeah, we're we have the last week of both the prem and the super rugby trans test.
00:00:29
Speaker
go in and oh well by the way a whole bunch of squad
Anniversary Reflection
00:00:32
Speaker
announcements. Yeah it's like geez um so if we didn't have enough um but little factoid did you know that a year ago yesterday was when we we picked up the um the pod post post uh oh wow okay yeah and we've been going straight since yeah we've been pretty much right out straight since then like
00:00:52
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Like that was, I can tell you what was on the docket for that day. Um, a lot of the same stuff we do at the beginning of the show. Fatty Lofa, um, new MLR franchises, LA and Dallas, I think were the two. Um, the Sam Burgess interview was on, was on the docket. Um, the world rugby calendar taught was a topic of the session. And then we've talked about Atero.
00:01:18
Speaker
Wow. What a year. Yeah. What a year. We're almost done with this one. So there you go. Absolutely. Bad shit. Crazy. All right. Let's drink. Oh, fuck. Yes.
Listener Engagement
00:01:34
Speaker
Find us on your favorite place to get your podcast download review. As always, tell us where you found us. All that good jazz auctioned us on Twitter. Oh wait. No, nevermind.
00:01:48
Speaker
We got a few of those. I like to do that sometimes. Yeah, that's fun. Listen, your life, your life is probably not that good. If you have that type of time to talk to us, that's all I know. That's what I came up with afterwards. I was like, you know what guys probably,
Self-Deprecating Humor
00:02:02
Speaker
it's probably pretty miserable if he's got to do that to us. Yeah, I'm good. Over silly shit. Yeah. Totally. Totally.
00:02:10
Speaker
Shit, we aren't that. Trust me, we're not experts. We just pretend to be. Yeah, I know. But you know what? If everyone who liked a team that I don't like, especially for fantasy talk shit at me, I wouldn't have much time for Twitters at all. Every once in a while. Every once in a while it's OK. Yeah.
00:02:29
Speaker
Um, but by Georgia coffee, especially if you've gotten to your final this weekend, um, yeah, in, in either comp do it, do it and do it now. Even if you're facing him in the SACO, wait, that's me.
00:02:46
Speaker
Don't worry about being geek in the SACO. It's a Champions League SACO. This is a quality SACO that we have found ourselves in. Yes, this is true. Considering that every league we are in on FRD, at least one of us is in the final. And in one of them, we are facing each other in the final. Yes. Yeah, we're not terrible. That's just a really good league and geek and I are
00:03:12
Speaker
We'll talk about that. Yeah. Um, TRM upgrades,
Fantasy Rugby Tips
00:03:16
Speaker
obviously this year is winding down, but next year you definitely want to grab those things. So make sure that you are getting the head of your friends and get the leg up on all those people. So you, you aren't doing any silly forfeit, which I'm sure we'll see plenty of videos of later. So grab that in support of the RPA and I restart red B as well. Black Lives Matter as always with us. And there's no room for racism and really there's no room for booing.
00:03:41
Speaker
any of the players that are taking a stand against racism. Call it what movement you want. This is in reference to James O'Brien's little conversation that he had with a fan that called in about England
Social Issues in Rugby
00:03:57
Speaker
football. Listen,
00:04:01
Speaker
they've told you why they're doing it, whether it's under the same title, it shouldn't matter. So that's the thing. Let's also bear in mind, and something that I wish we could keep the focus on, and maybe it's not something that in the UK,
00:04:17
Speaker
It's really a major deal about because you guys don't play the anthem before every match, every game, anything. Whereas we play it when we take a shit over here. Pretty much. Like, let's be honest, it's played before fucking everything. And that's where the kneeling there wasn't about the kneeling. It was about the kneeling for the national anthem.
00:04:37
Speaker
And that that was supposedly disrespectful to the troops. Fuck that. No, wrong. No, but that's the argument. So now you've taken that that context of the argument completely out of it because they're not kneeling for an anthem. They're just saying you're taking a knee. Yes, it's mimicking.
00:04:56
Speaker
the kneeling for the anthem, but it's not, right? They're not kneeling for an anthem. It's just they're taking a knee to show that their support for Black Lives Matter and that everyone should be treated equally and that we shouldn't have racism. And people are hot and bothered about that. And that caller who's like, well, I think of Black Lives Matter. I think of police buildings on fire. And it's like,
00:05:21
Speaker
dipshit when I think of Black Lives Matter, I think of police killing black people. Yeah. And that's got to stop and police harassing black people and just basically fucking up their lives because police are on a power trip and they're racist. So like there's there's legitimate reasons and it's not just police. It's fucking every aspect of society. Right.
00:05:40
Speaker
that's got to stop. That's the problem. It's so pervasive that that we don't notice it. And over there, again, there's no anthem, but that they're that they're in front of, but they're still just it's it's the very idea that that someone might care about black lives and want them to be treated equally that that really bites them on the ass. So fuck them. Yeah, no, I agree. There's no fig leaf. At least Americans are are fucking
00:06:03
Speaker
bullshit enough to because that's what we do. We bullshit. But they're they're they're smart enough to to have a fig leaf of it. The fucking UK people who are booing and there's no there's nothing there. They really have. They're just booing. They're basically all for racism.
00:06:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's just not a good thing, man. It's pretty simple. They want people to be treated equally, no matter skin color, sexuality, gender, whatever it is. And if that is something that you have to boo,
00:06:37
Speaker
as a as a person that would that, you know, I would not want you at my game. Fuck off. Right. Right. You can go to another match. Like, where are you going to go? Like, you know, right. As an England as an England football fan, like, what are you going to do? You can't go to rugby because guess what? They do the same exact fucking thing. So you're so well, my friend. So you got a cricket. Big deal. Yeah. No. Right. Fucking. That's a that's a long that's a long story that needs to be kicked in the face. But not another day. Another day.
Champions League Rugby Updates
00:07:05
Speaker
But yeah, so pretty simple message to get behind. And yeah, don't try and tell these guys what they're doing, what they're doing it for. Like they've told you and now you're just not listening. So what else is new? We're not listening. So there it is. Don't be a dick.
00:07:20
Speaker
Okay, let's continue on to our friends at the Champions League. We got a second tier coming up that's opening up next year. I think I've gotten five emails out. So I think I'm missing one of the six that put their hand up. Plus, we need two more. I've heard from our self-nominated candidate, and he's respectfully declined. And that's okay. And we still love him anyway. Yeah, we do.
00:07:45
Speaker
He's still welcome to any league that he wants to be in. Elsewise outside of that. So that's okay. Player movement, because there hasn't been any of that lately. Some retirements. We knew Ben ham was going to be retiring. That's not a shock. But yeah, right. But he made it official.
00:08:06
Speaker
Um, yeah, putting it out there, making it official. John Hardy's calling it good. Um, he's a tough, he's a tough injury. Or is that just him being, I think he's done. He's, he's seen that he's seen a few things. I think he's done. You think? Yeah. Yeah. This is a tough old boy. He's so, I guess the other week, he played the other week, right?
00:08:22
Speaker
And showed really well. So that's it. That's a good swan song. That's a good way to go out. Bell out. Like he was definitely one of the few standouts in that new castle team that got honked at St. Blark. Yes, that's what it was. Unfair. Yeah, very unfair. And then Callen Black's hanging him up. Callen Black's seen quite a few days himself as a Worcester Warrior and as a prop, that's tough life, man.
00:08:44
Speaker
still remember his hundred point, like half, but from what, a couple of years ago in TRM. Yeah. Well then they, then they fixed it. I was like, boo, that would have been cool. Wait, 40 minutes has like 125 points. What the hell? I was like, ah, that's, that's not right. That's not right. Um, and you and I were just talking about it a minute ago. Um, Zach Henry on his way out of bluster, uh,
00:09:09
Speaker
which is too bad. You know, if I have my pick of the two guys that have played the most in the last couple of weeks, Sands Ford, it's Henry, not McPhillips. Yeah, Phillips have one good game in like four, like Henry's usually plays well. Yeah. So, you know, it's not really that's not really that would not be my choice of which one right now. But then that's last year for you. Right. So I want to move. Oh, sorry. Good. Before we moved on to the to the next bit, I wanted to also
00:09:37
Speaker
mentioned that Rachel Burford had her surgery today. She did. That's right. I did see that. So we, the fantasy rugby Yanks wants to wish her well in her recovery. Yeah. Hopefully forward to seeing her back out there soon. Yep. Absolutely. Leading the defending champions at that. So hopefully it works out well for him. That was a, that was a tough injury to see if it was.
00:09:57
Speaker
And then Feinga Nuku staying put in New Zealand, which is a big win for them considering they've already lost Lamape. And apparently Lamape is leaving because they actually offered him less in New Zealand. I was like, ooh. And he actually said, you know, if they offered me the same, I probably would have taken it. And I was like, so New Zealand, don't be cheapskates. And I know that it's not like they don't have a litany of talent in the middle, but he is quite a unique talent, just the same.
00:10:26
Speaker
So, hey, they're lost the studs game. Unfortunate injury news is Andrew Porter toe is going to keep him out of the lions. That's just, that's going to be so aggravating. Like I can't even imagine like your, your, your lion's dream is over because of a fricking toe. Like, Oh, that's, that's the, yeah, that's the line. That's why there's the, the,
00:10:54
Speaker
the heartbreak for the guys who don't make it because it's like, it's never anything big. Even to make it as far as they are in professional rugby. There's a fine line between
00:11:06
Speaker
you know, semi-pro and pro ready players, you know, I, yeah. So, you know, yeah. So yeah, that the toe. Yep. That's enough. Oh, it sucks. But his, his loss again. Yeah. Kyle Sinclair's game.
Springboks Team Analysis
00:11:20
Speaker
And, you know, as, as much as everybody was banging the drum and.
00:11:24
Speaker
Um, yeah, it was, it's, it's deserved a hundred percent, you know, yes, it turns by industry, but there's nobody that's going to be questioning that. Honestly, you know, so good for him. He's yeah, he's, he's definitely worth it. Yeah. Xander Ferguson goes to the bid juice team automatically. Yep. Absolutely. Sorry guys. Yeah. We'll see how many other replacements we see. I would wager we're going to see at least one more before they take off.
00:11:51
Speaker
Oh, we're going to see. Yes. Every every time there's a tour like this or something this grueling, their players are pushing themselves to their physical limit when you're not watching. And that will lead to injury. There's going to be guys who get injured before and then there will be guys get injured after this tour. Just that's that's what happens. Yep. So, yeah, there'll be others. And the Lions opponent.
00:12:18
Speaker
The Springboks have announced their team. The first name that kind of made me rage on my eyebrows was Koonie Ustays, and I was like, nope. Like their scrums are usually one of the best things in the world, and he is not going to help. He is not that good. He's not. But I guess you have to count bodies. I don't know. Yeah, it beats me.
00:12:41
Speaker
I mean, they've got more than enough. Oh, yes, no doubt. You can be in there as the as the as the midweek team or whatever it is that they need the equivalent of that.
00:12:52
Speaker
Yeah. The taxi squad, you know, in case they, they, uh, suffer an injury and he's got to be the 10 minute player at the end. They won't, he won't, he won't kill you there, but if you, you're not starting at that level. Um, I mean, uh, we might be replacing guts already.
00:13:12
Speaker
from the squad. Oh fuck, Snamin. Romulans having surgery and then Snamin and Tealende literally playing with fire. Stomach ass. Fucking idiots. You morons. Who was over there and said, this is a good idea. Like, come on. I'm sure they were plastered. Oh, I'm sure there was plenty of alcohol involved. Yeah. The beers were very involved. Who picks up a can of petrol?
00:13:38
Speaker
It throws it on a fire besides a drunk person. I'm sorry. Not very many. First off, if you have a can of petrol anywhere near a fire, you're drunk. Likely. Very likely. When they're like, oh, it just caught. Yeah, it just caught because you didn't do it right because you were drunk. 100%. 100%. There you go.
00:14:02
Speaker
Some prem names were thrown into this one. One, Jasper Veese gets his first call up. I'm sure he'll see the field too. Yeah, as long as it's not suspended. No, yeah. Avoid that one. That'd be a good idea. Morna Stane called in.
00:14:19
Speaker
I mean, he's done this. This is old hat for him playing the Lions. He's done this once or twice. I guess that makes sense in a lot of ways. Fair enough. All right, that works. And then the Priya twins, I mean.
00:14:35
Speaker
good lord pick a dapriya twin and one of them's got to play you know they've both just been absolute monsters they have they've been ridiculous so i would i would definitely throw them in there as well so yep it's going to be quite the uh it's going to be quite the clash coming up in uh in july and i'm i wanted to throw out a name because it's um there was a
00:14:55
Speaker
a similar kind of situation. I don't remember. Now, when I was really first breaking into, you know, seriously following the rubber-seize rugby and like right around the time that Billy LaRue was like on his way out from wasps. I don't remember him being that impressive there.
00:15:18
Speaker
Yeah, but they like them on the they might go on on the string box. I don't know. I am not saying I'm just where I'm going with that is that it kind of ties me towards this whole Lima soap log, I think, who has been tweeting out his his departure, his slow departure. Yeah. Yeah. From England as he goes home and thinking the same thing about him. So it's like, what if, you know,
00:15:41
Speaker
Don't be a 15 who go from overseas. It goes right. That goes to was apparently it's a cursed position. Right.
00:15:49
Speaker
like, jeez. Yeah. That's why the name stood out. I was like, yeah, Villa Louvre was good, but I remember him sucking at wasps. It wasn't until he left that I was like, Oh no, I see now I now I see him playing well forever. He will live. He will not. He will just have in his memory that try he knocked on in the try area diving in against lunch. Yes. Yes. No, I was going to forget that ever. No, it was going to get that ever. Oh boy.
00:16:16
Speaker
Eagles named a 30 man squad. Unfortunately, Harry Barlow was not included, but that's all right. There's still plenty of time in the stall. Oh wait, no, no, no different. Okay. You know what I do like? There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, eight guys that are uncapped on this team. And there's a hand and this is about four or five more nine. You're right. Yep. There's about probably five or six more that have less than five.
00:16:45
Speaker
So yeah, he sees an opportunity here to put some new bodies against, will be two very good teams in England and Nylon, even if they are a little depowered, it's still fucking wait.
USA Rugby Squad Discussion
00:16:58
Speaker
That's a step up from MLR, just the same. So he sees the opportunity here to blood these guys and get them used to their national rugby. And he should, because guess what? The USA rugby, the Eagles suck, right? They always have. So why would you bring back experienced suck?
00:17:12
Speaker
You wouldn't. Like how many times have we who when we wanted? Fuck. What's his name? Who they finally get rid of at the World Cup? Oh, Sean Davies. Not Davies. No, no, no. The flanker, Quilly. Oh, geez. Yes. Yeah. Quill, who we were like we we we knew also before he even got a cap. Yeah. That. No, no, no. Go ahead. We played with him. Knucklehead. And
00:17:40
Speaker
Yeah. And they just never would. And it's like, well, we need the experience. Like, well, you don't need that. You don't need that. And then it gets hard at the top. You know, embarrassing us in front of the fucking world because, oh, we needed, you know, we did experience that, you know, you don't have some time like, you know, nope, nope, nope, nope. Three Saracens are on the list here with Will Hooley and Piff Luddy. And I know the host currently listed as a little groany, but he's going to be arson in the fall. And TD Lemos to tell you.
00:18:09
Speaker
Yeah, a series grown man. He's a series. Absolutely. Yeah, he's series through and through. So that's really cool. And as you and I discussed, if we have our way, Captain will be Mr. Greg Peterson from the Castle Falcons. I think that's very quick. Oh, okay. And yeah, AJ is already Captain. He's been named. Has he been? Yeah, he's on the... Oh, bollocks. I didn't even see that.
00:18:33
Speaker
Oh, geez, that must that was just there before. Damn it. I'm OK with. I'm OK. I live with that. Yeah. I will absolutely. You know, as much as I do think Greg should be your your leader, AJ is your best player.
00:18:48
Speaker
Likely, yes. So not many arguing on that one. And he's at an extremely key position. So yeah, that makes sense. Never further than like 10-12, though, from that pack, though. Never further than that. Like when Scully loved the guy, loved the man, but not captain out there. Not on the wing, please. No, I don't know. There's too much communication you have to have with the official and
00:19:11
Speaker
to your team as to what you want. So yeah, 10 is probably good because he can, you know, he's talking to everyone constantly, just like the nine. Yeah. I hope, I hope we see Luke Carty from, um, from LA playing, uh, 10, 12, 15, something like that. Yeah. That'd be fantastic. Look forward to that a lot. Cool. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to see what this team just does. Excuse me. I can't talk. Um,
00:19:35
Speaker
Other squads that will be announced this week. England and Australia plan on announcing it sometime this week. I think England's tomorrow. So by the time you're listening to this, Eddie may have dropped his squad. Australia this weekend, I believe.
00:19:51
Speaker
I don't, I don't trust the thing that Eddie's going to do. So all I'm going to think about is Dave Rennie and like what he's already experienced in terms of bringing in guys to a camp. And I hope he continues the theme because they got, they have an interesting test series coming up with Australia. It's three games in like 10 days or something like that. So it's going to be, um,
00:20:10
Speaker
Change will be needed for, for all games pretty much. So, uh, I, I will be very interested to see how it goes. And, um, I'm, I'm excited to watch that Australia team and see what they do going forward. Uh, and especially against a very good French team as well. Right. That's a, that's going to be a big test because they're not missing any lions. So it's not like the, yeah, it's not like what the U S is doing.
00:20:32
Speaker
Correct. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. England. I just don't have any hope. I'll believe it when I see it. It's all I know. Yeah. So we know we know Dave ribbons won't be on the team now. Jeez. Yeah. We'll get to that. But yeah. Oopsie daisy. Referees confirmed for the three tests, Nick Berriuk, Ben O'Keefe, and Matthew Raynall. Of course, we're going to have a French referee to get the last one. Why not? So here's what needs to happen for England. I'm sorry, for England. For the Lions. The Lions.
00:21:01
Speaker
is be prepared for high tackles and and don't lose your shit when the referee just lets it go because yeah a couple of them you know those those Aussie and and Kiwi refs they're not going to give you shit and you can't expect anything from the french ref so absolutely not so i'll just deal with the fact yeah
00:21:23
Speaker
unless Barnsy is going to, you know, check, check you when you fuck up and it will rule you. Right. It's Piper. H.A. Jacobs and Mario Fender-Vess Hazen as their TMOs right now. Lister does as a TMO. Oh, it was, it was, it was, Barnsy a touch. Thank you for being touchy. Yeah. OK. Thank you for being touchy.
00:21:44
Speaker
So there's that. Good luck. I think, uh, and I think the sky sharp, every Adamson is doing, um, the, one of the Georgia matches again for the South African, um, Adamson, excuse me. I know. I wish. Yeah. I'd take Holly Davidson all day over this guy. Fuck that. Jeez. Yeah. Yeah. She needs to do like a pro 14 game or something. She's, she, uh, is refereeing, um, uh,
00:22:10
Speaker
I can't remember if it was one of the sevens matches, isn't it? I think so. I don't know. Or maybe it's right. We woke up qualifier or something like that. Yes. I did see that. It's one of the lower European qualifiers. That's right. Yep. I remember that. Hey, good. Good. Get her in there. She's better than anything else. I gotta be able to spit out. I promise. Yup. No doubt. Okay. Um, and after all that, super rugby trans Tasman.
Super Rugby Highlights
00:22:33
Speaker
Um, yeah, pretty wild weekend. And, uh,
00:22:38
Speaker
you know the the lead off game force crusaders looks like it looked initially like the force or the the the force really crashed the party for the crusaders in in in a small way at least the the force showed
00:22:51
Speaker
what you have to do if you want to beat the Crusaders. Now, that doesn't mean you're going to do it. But if you want to beat them, you got to you got to get over the try line early and often and just throw them off their game. Because, you know, if you let if you just let the Crusaders get into their rhythm, as they eventually did for a spell, because you're never going to keep them out. Yeah, you can't just let them get up on you as the Reds saw, let's say. Right. You know, by the time the Reds really got like started playing rugby, they were they were out of the match. They're very focused.
00:23:20
Speaker
good on the force for being like, you know what, let's fucking go. Where do they have those? Right. Two minutes in, they're scoring. So obviously they were they were doing something right.
00:23:31
Speaker
Agreed, agreed, agreed. And was it? It was this matter. Ton of tries disallowed, if I remember correctly. Yeah, there were lots of lots of no goes on this one. It was really I was like, no, not another one. But that's it. Yeah, it just goes to show that there's good rugby being played. Right. If they're calling if they're calling back tries, it means teams are scoring the tries. Yeah, they're making a mistake somewhere along the way. But that's that's a lot better than just making mistakes and not scoring tries mean like cluster.
00:23:58
Speaker
Yeah, plenty of that. Plenty of that to go around for a lot of people. Let's not do that anymore. Good on the force for nutting up and it's a shame that it...
00:24:05
Speaker
They, they couldn't finish the job, but it's crusaders, right? Tough. Yeah. Yeah. That's the best club team in the world right now. So, um, yeah, showing up in their building and really keeping the crowd kind of out of it. I mean, they, you know, there was, they didn't really get rocking like they can when the crusaders are rocking themselves. So there's a little nail, nail, nail biting in there. So, um, yeah, that.
00:24:30
Speaker
That's a win. And they took away, and they took away that bonus point, which is all rude. They're like, shit. Yeah. They really, the crusade, yeah. Let himself down a little bit on that one. So then we skip on over to the, like I said, the age old bow, red versus blue and blue ones, blue one. Yeah. Um, that's, uh, you know, more convincingly than the score line, but that's okay. But man, fricking Matt Greeley,
00:24:58
Speaker
That morning, didn't even know what he was, didn't even know it. Like thought he was playing club footy on the weekend. Right. Frickin' Brad Thorne calls them and says, Hey, I need you tonight. What? Oh yeah. You're straight into the team. What? Okay. I just put myself a little bit. Excuse me while I change my underwear.
00:25:17
Speaker
Oh, man. But, you know, nothing glaring from Mac, really. So good on him. He played with himself and he did it well. So good on him. That's a decent debut for a very young boy. And the Reds did nut up. Like, you know, I did say that the score, you know, there was a late score that made it a little bit closer to him.
00:25:38
Speaker
Still, like the Reds played well. It's just the Blues played that much better. So, yeah. I mean, Hamish Stewart getting thrown into 10 at last minute, like, blah. Poor guy. Like, just nothing to be done. Isaac Henry took all the kicks and performed well outside of that as well. But this, this, who's the, who's the number four that plays for the Blue? I don't remember this guy. Do we put something? Yeah. Where'd he come from?
00:26:05
Speaker
I don't know. Like kind of, I think maybe he was just, he was still playing anymore. Yeah, he's good. He's all right. Oh man. Yeah, that guy's pretty good. He got over and I was like, I've seen two plotters score before, but it's been a really long time since I have. So yeah, that was a good one too. So yeah, it was very good. Good run for it. Good and ripped for the big fella. So the, the blues do take care of business as, as they wanted to, and they are able to, um, they're able to maintain their, their top of the table status.
00:26:34
Speaker
in trans Tasman coaches, you know, more than a lot of people probably thought they would have after coming out of a little bit disappointed, a little bit disappointed, but yeah. Um, but there they go. They're all they got to do is win. Yep. So when in the, when in the air in the final, right? Oh, okay. Which one? Hold on. They're 19. Okay.
00:26:55
Speaker
Okay. So they're good. Yeah. They're there when they're in the Highlanders that need to outscore the Crusaders this weekend. Yep. That'll be interesting. Speaking of the Highlanders, they, um, they, they put themselves in the driver's seat more or less. Yeah. I mean, it's the war toss. So yeah. Unfortunately, the war toss season is just basically like, all right, we're just going to play. And if they score, fuck it. Uh, screw it. Right. Um, which is fun when you have a decent defense.
00:27:26
Speaker
But when you don't, not great. No, not at all. Not at all. But, you know, at the same time, the hounders needed to rock up and indeed they did. It was good to see Will Harrison back wearing the number 10 shirt for the toss though. It is. That belongs to him right now, I think. It does. I mean, you know, it's great going into the Chiefs week, but that's fine. Now they figure it out. Oh, well.
00:27:54
Speaker
No. Oh man. Brumbies and hurricanes. This was painful for me to watch. I was not a happy person to say the least. I, you know, the really, so here's the unfortunate thing is I listened to the Jordy Barrett should have won this game three times over. Yeah. Let's start with that. Let's start with that. So we don't sound like a complete dick. Paul Williams is a dick.
00:28:21
Speaker
referee. Yeah. Oh, I did not like his refereeing at all. No. But you're probably not going to agree with me. I didn't like I thought he favored the hurricanes in the as early as right off the opening kickoff.
00:28:37
Speaker
and I think I'm on the opposite side of that because I feel like because he's from New Zealand, he went and tried to do everything he could to say, nope, I'm going to call everything that's 50-50 against the hurricanes because I am a Kiwi and I don't want to seem biased. Interesting. Let's put it this way though. Here's the bottom line and this is the one thing that you can just say,
00:28:56
Speaker
He's not, he was not a good referee on the state, no matter which team. I guess that means something. Yeah, probably true. I mean, I'm a neutral so, but he's still like, I'm not like, I wasn't rooting against the hurricanes. Um, the scrum, the scrum, there were three different scrum panels and they flip flopped based on who had the ball and they were the exact same motion all three times. I was like, which one?
00:29:18
Speaker
Fucking calling. Come on, man. You don't know what you're doing with the scrum. Shocker of the day. A referee has no idea how to referee the scrum and just points to the team with the fucking ball. It doesn't matter how it fucking works. So because the opening kickoff where he called the offside penalty. I thought that was kind of stupid.
00:29:36
Speaker
Yeah, I was like that's intense if anything that's unintentional outside that's a scrum that's not a fucking you know form So I didn't like that and I also there were some other things. Yeah, I wasn't exactly I was watching somewhat distracted. So I was not the But the currify yellow should have been a red. Oh, I knew he was in big trouble. I was like, oh
00:29:59
Speaker
This is not going to be good, is it? So maybe that's the one instant where I can say, yeah, Paul Williams probably leaned a little bit towards the hurricanes on that one. But again, as we talked about, like the Kiwis and Australians aren't really pinning this thing down. They're they're really letting it go. Yeah. And really, to me.
00:30:18
Speaker
The Kaines played amazing attacking rugby. The Brumby's just played really good defense. Just a shocking defensive effort on their part to be able to do that against the team that was putting them under that much pressure and attack.
00:30:36
Speaker
Yeah, to keep him that. And yes, as you mentioned, Barrett missing three penalty kicks knew the end right at the end in the last five minutes. He could hit those in his sleep any other time, like one of them was one of them was like 55, 60 meters. He's still in that though. He's still he still should hit that. He still did that as the ring.
00:30:55
Speaker
So that's the crazy thing. You're like, he missed like, yeah, it was from the other side of the midfield. And you're like, no, he should hit that. That's usually no problem. But then there was one there was like right outside the 22. And then right at the 40. So it's like, you know, those are these are
00:31:13
Speaker
Yeah, those are Barrett hits every time. Right. So really disappointing in that case. Unfortunate. I felt bad for you. I didn't even text you about it. That's how bad I felt about that. I was like, oh, I was a unpleasant person to be around that day after that one. I was like, oh, thankfully the prem came on shortly after I was done watching that. So I was like, all right, palate cleanser.
00:31:39
Speaker
I felt that way with the Chiefs match the other week. And yeah, the other one we're fucking D. Mack did exactly what Jordy did. Yeah, this kicks all day. Damn it to hell. And then, well, your Chiefs rocked up. Certainly. So here's the thing. And there's a guy on your feet that's on the field for you that I totally agree is not a good player. But there's one thing he can do that's very good. And that's run the line nice and hard. Phrasing boom.
00:32:09
Speaker
Um, with the ball, but after that, like if you do, if he wants to pass, if he needs to rock, if he needs to tackle, if he needs anything, he's not good at it. He's not good at it, but he's got the whole like running a straight line and different lines very well and carrying the ball, but just don't ask him to do anything else.
00:32:25
Speaker
Oh, like he, they, he killed a couple tries just by, and then did you notice the, um, the trial that chase Tia Tia try right after halftime, the chiefs just skipped him. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You do not touch this. Go to go right to him.
00:32:41
Speaker
He can do it important for you to get this ball. Totally scored some through him. But like it was because he gave. Oh, yeah. He Stevenson had to reach back and catch it. Oh, yeah, that was not a good pass. And then he had then he fucked up his pass to Antonina Brown. But I'll be like, yeah, I'll be able to and trust kind of trust played really well. He did.
00:33:05
Speaker
from fullback. I will say that to his credit and, you know, and on the other side of the coin for these guys, two guys that stood out for me.
00:33:15
Speaker
not named Michael Wells. Cause he's one of mine. Cause he was, yeah, he was one of mine too. But like, I feel like his, the name rolls off the tongue these days for him. Um, is he nice to Ronnie played really well in, in a return, you know, he's still coming back to fitness and that only does that only does good thing for, uh, Dave Bernie's team. Cause he's, he's eyeing that eight man Jersey and he needs a.
00:33:36
Speaker
He needs, he needs a couple eights really with this, with this schedule coming up in this test series. And then obviously you look at like blood slow later on down the road. Um, and then if there's anybody that will ever question, and I don't think there is Matt, Tim, it was toughness.
00:33:52
Speaker
You need to just take a hard look because that man is tougher than so many people I've ever, I've ever seen him play a rugby match. And he's playing 10, 12. Like, yeah, there aren't a whole lot tougher than Matt, Matt, some more. And he is putting his face in their heart and soul. I thought he was dead. Well, I did too. I was like, are you dead? Yeah, I know. I'll just get back up. I'll get back. Like for like three minutes and they're like, no, he's like, fuck it. I'm fine. Let me back in.
00:34:20
Speaker
No, you need you need to take an H.I.A. big guy. Yeah. So never question that man's toughest ever, ever, ever. And if anybody ever does, then I will question you. Lots of disallowed tries in this one, too. Mm hmm. They were. They were. And I thought a couple were so friendly.
00:34:36
Speaker
Well, look, I'm just happy. I am extremely happy that there is consistency in the in the obstruction. Yeah, that's true. That's that first try. The Sean Stevenson should have been try should have been try. I thought that there was there was no obstruction whatsoever.
00:34:54
Speaker
so i'm still if not like ran his line like slowly yeah i think he ran past the defensive line like he and like he got he made sure he got past it the defender kind of was retreating and and yeah there was no way he could have known that that was that was going to happen and i don't think there was contact i don't think it affected
00:35:13
Speaker
that that tackles ability to be made. It was just incidental, incidental context that happens. Yeah, whatever. But at least that at least that was Kelloway got pinged for it late, which which
00:35:29
Speaker
Uh, it was certainly worse than the first one though. So that's all that mattered to me. It was like that. This is a far worse infringement. So you better fucking call. Yeah. Consistently consistency. God damn it is the thing we really asked for in the long run. So yeah, got that right. But chiefs take it. Um, and then we're going to have quite the grandstand finish for the final here. Um, in re in.
00:35:55
Speaker
In so many ways, it's all to play for for all the QE teams, really. It's just a matter of some teams need help, some teams not so much. Blues take care of business and that's game. They're in. That's the final right there. And then after that, it's down to Highlanders, Crusaders, Hurricanes, Chiefs and what they do in their matches. So, yeah, Highlanders have an 11 point.
00:36:18
Speaker
lead on crusaders and points differential. So, um, not much, not much. Um, wait, who are the, so the Highlanders playing Brumbies. That's a tough ask. Crusaders are playing the rebels. I think they're going to overtake it. Oh, I think crusaders are going to remember the Richie Belongi game a couple of weeks ago. This might be it again. Yeah, it might be it again.
00:36:40
Speaker
Yep, might be it again. Look out. People are soon. Duck and cover. Yeah. Sorry, guys. Incoming. Yeah, big time. All right, let's head north.
Premiership Rugby Review
00:36:50
Speaker
Sale and Quinn's Friday night. Everything we expected once we saw the Quinn's lineup. Yep. Pretty much just dead on. Like, you know, loads of credit to the guys that performed for the Quinn's. They did, yeah. But, shit. If a different outcome came from this game, I would have been extremely shocked.
00:37:10
Speaker
Yes, yeah, this is always going to happen, as you said, once the lineups came out, no Dom, no Danny, no Marcus, no Wynn. But you know, Quinn's had that fourth spot locked in. They're not going anywhere. There's no reason for them to throw their best out there. And it's just like what Bristol did. Bristol did it with Exeter. They're like, let's go see what Exeter have.
00:37:36
Speaker
You know, let's, you know, we don't need to win this. Let's see how they're going to attack us and defend us. And so that's what the Quins just did with sale because you never know. They could meet up in the final.
00:37:50
Speaker
Yeah. And then I'm sorry, how stupid is FAFTA clerk? Like people are like, Oh yeah, that's, that's fine. No, it's not. You can't do that just cause you're smaller. It doesn't mean you're allowed to do dumb shit. Like that's like, that was, I mean, like I said in the chat, that was a hell of a football block.
00:38:09
Speaker
Yes. He would make an excellent pass blocker as a running back, doing shit like that. Excellent work. None of that's legal on a rugby pitch anywhere. No, 0% of that. 0% of that's legal here. Yeah. And that's, yeah, that is why you and I are not particularly
00:38:31
Speaker
strong fans of that because it's like he doesn't need to do it. And if he was supremely talented player, he does not need to do stupid shit like that. If he was five inches taller in the same frame, he would have fucking killed someone doing that. Yeah. You have been in big trouble. Right. Big trouble. You know, just because you're just because you're we doesn't mean you can just do shit like that. I know. It's a funny thing. I think that those guys you get away with sometimes. Yeah.
00:38:57
Speaker
Let's go up to Newcastle, Newcastle Wooster. All Newcastle all the time for the most part, really. And Wooster's same problems continue to come back and haunt them. Just unable to finish, unable to get the ball over the line with the exception of the few and far between. Was it the Shillcock try that Lawrence offloaded to? That was pretty cool. That was nice.
00:39:18
Speaker
I like that. But and, you know, Jamie Shellacock's been playing out of his balls for this team this whole year. And it's just a shame that he's getting hung up to try continuously. Yeah, it is. I don't know what the I don't know.
00:39:35
Speaker
what to do with Worcester with Worcester either. I don't know what what John Thomas probably doesn't either. I need to tell you he's probably right there with you. I can't. Yeah, I they they were non existent this match until like the 70th minute or when you know right when she'll talk. Right.
00:39:53
Speaker
And then because then he'll scored again. It's like, oh, you remember now you remembered. Oh, this is what I'm supposed to do. And I think Ted Hill even scored after, if I'm not mistaken, it was after significant play within the twenty two. So it's like actual rugby that Worcester haven't shown the ability to do in a while. So, yeah, but Newcastle, it was all Newcastle because they were the only ones playing rugby. I don't know how much possession Worcester had first half, but it wasn't much minimal.
00:40:23
Speaker
So yeah, of course, Newcastle can put up, you know, 21 straight points on you, because if you're not playing that'll that that helps. That's the only way Newcastle are doing it. Yeah. But I mean, was it the second one or the first one that Adam Radwin finished and very, very spectacular. Oh, it was the first one. But both of them were cool. Both. But one was the the dive and then the other I thought he'd like didn't he was a chip in and
00:40:49
Speaker
just a touchdown or something close to it. So yeah, a fucking acrobat. He's not bad. And, um, I'm sorry, did somebody lose their giraffe? I, uh, I believe, I believe the, if there's a new castle zoo, it has lost its draft because Sean Robinson got loose on the field and got himself over the line too. I was like, what is the big fella doing making moves like that from distance? Right.
00:41:16
Speaker
Well, I mean, again, they're the only team on the field, so... Yeah, they were. In many ways, they were.
00:41:23
Speaker
So, oops. But, hey, Newcastle, you know, right the ship after last week and that's good on them for responding in that way. And, you know, it shows that, yeah, that was probably just a mail-in game from them, unfortunately. And that sucks. And, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, that was the idea. So, again, I think that was the... They were in position to make it to the Champions Cup next year. And whether or not they beat Exeter,
00:41:48
Speaker
they were never going to be the Exeter. So on the last two, right? So focus on the last two, don't get anybody and don't get anybody hurt against exit. Again, you're, you know, the guys you really don't care about hurt, which is great. You know, good for them. Great. Uh, let's go over to the fireworks that were at Welford road. I don't think I don't remember any removal happening in this match. Nothing at all.
00:42:12
Speaker
No, I think I remember. Yeah, I remember there just being a lot of scrums at the end. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A few of the few of those at the end. I mean, this was a well played match. And this was in front of a crowd that was pretty raucous. So, OK, cool. Cool to have a place like welfare road rocking again. Yeah. Only makes the only makes the prime better without a doubt.
00:42:40
Speaker
Yeah. And just to see that a tiger seemed rock up and those tries they scored. I mean, God, good Lord. Yeah. Yep.
00:42:53
Speaker
Oh, I don't know. Fucking Bristol's the the mailings, the problem. Oh, Peter. Oh, I'm sure I'm talking about the fucking. Oh, yeah. I mean, Max Max is really good. Max is offload and Pieta. He tells the pass to Radra. Just a thing of beauty, putting it on the outside shoulder of the defender like that defender didn't exist on that play. Didn't didn't exist because there was no way for him to make a tackle.
00:43:19
Speaker
Even after Roger Roger cat cut the ball where he was, there was no there was no way he was getting to him. And then he couldn't get to the to the pass. It was just he took him completely out with that pass. And forces Dr. Roger there. So he's finished. Yeah, he's finished. So and then this fucking winery about Okay, so is there a law?
00:43:39
Speaker
that says there's, you know, the, when you, the, um, once the referee has blown the whistle and given the mark, there's still, uh, you know, a three second delay that the, the, a player needs to have before they tap and go. No, once the, once the marks been given you, you are so well, my friend, well, people need to shut the fuck up. Cause Harry Randall.
00:44:02
Speaker
kicked, towed the ball after the whistle was blown and after the mark was given. So, yeah, no. And that's very, that's very Bristol. Right. And that's very much both him and Uran. That's like the way they love the play and obviously good things come from it usually.
00:44:18
Speaker
They picked their spots and they do it well. So good to see Harry Randall back into his old ways. And we saw Dan Robson do the same thing against the Irish. The exact same thing. And the difference between Randall scoring a try and the Irish defending, it was the Irish defended illegally and took a yellow card. Yeah.
00:44:37
Speaker
They they're like, OK, so yeah, I mean, Lester had the opportunity to tackle him and take a yellow instead of a try, but they decided to, you know, play it legal. And that was the decision. 100 percent. No, that was that was absolutely the right decision on that part. So work for me. And then the Maylands try.
00:44:56
Speaker
Uh, what was it? Um, she, she throws the dummy and the defense rushes up and then they're all of a sudden mounds. It's just behind the defense ready for the pass. Nope. This is easy. See ya. It was old hat for him. Yeah. And then peers with the intercept offload to Radrajo for his second. Just all of those are just like, if you want to take them and, and like, those are all coach tries. Like this is, this is good rugby. This is cool. This is, and this is how Pat lamb wants to play. So right.
00:45:26
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And he knows that. And that's why when things like this aren't happening, even if they don't quite turn into tries, that's when he gets mad. He's like, yep, we're not playing our usual stuff. And he knows it. So, yeah, that was brilliant stuff from Bristol. The stuff at the end.
00:45:44
Speaker
I'm not a doctor and neither is he in tempest. That's all I know. You know, you mean Jake Kerr still working for taking a paycheck. Oh man.
00:46:00
Speaker
No, but yeah, that so clearly, as far as I can tell, first off, I'm I'm I am Team Jonofo and you will never be able to rip me away from that. Most people are. And Pat Lamb has a point that I think was glossed over by a lot of people when he said,
00:46:17
Speaker
Am I tactically subbing out John Afoe after 40 minutes? No, he was hurt. So whatever was written on the card by the team manager obviously was incorrect. But that, okay, that aside. Yeah, so they got an internal thing wrong and I did not like the way Borthwick handled that.
00:46:40
Speaker
I don't like any way anybody handled that to be, no, nobody, nobody handled that well. Nobody covered themselves in glory. Nope. Nope. But in the NFL, I was like, fuck that. I probably, I think you'd want to say he's probably had a beer. I was like, yeah, you probably right. Actually, you probably already had a drink. That was before we could see him. Um,
00:46:58
Speaker
But then the, what was it, did you see the clip of him, I think, I can't remember if I sent it to you, I think it did. Where they isolated him off the ref mic, and as Borthwick is being
00:47:13
Speaker
crapper. I think if I was like, Yeah, watch me win the penalty. Something like that. You want me to do this, then I'll go win the penalty. Yeah. Yeah. So and then he did he won the scrum. You got the he got it done. It wasn't the prettiest. But man, it didn't have to be pretty at that point. It just had to be done. Right. For the sake of Bristol. And and urine was quicker to the ball than than the old man.
00:47:37
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, not not a good way for Wiggles to cover himself in glory after getting to such a great milestone, too. So that's that was really unfortunate. And his his well, his behavior sparked the whole conversation. Yeah. Because what was it? So because so you're in jumped on the ball quicker than he does and kicks it to touch. Right. And he then grabs urine and fucking twists him and throws him.
00:48:02
Speaker
And Afoa, who has been up and celebrating his good deeds, you know, kind of sees what happens at the end there and goes over and just tells Richard, you know, Richard, hey, you know, I fuck off in so many words. And then Wigglesworth takes him down. That is definitely frustrating. I thought it was I thought at first it was Afoa just talking shit to him and, you know, kind of kick starting it. But no, no, it was Wigglesworth that started the whole scrap.
00:48:32
Speaker
Yeah, I did like to see Joe Joyce coming in and sorting out Ellis Genge at the very end. A couple of Bristol boys just sorting it out at the end. Genge needed to be sorted out because this is like Genge, this is why you're not, this is why Sinclair's going and not you.
00:48:53
Speaker
But think yeah, well, yeah This is but it's why it's a reason why why Sinclair will will get the you know The chance before because Gens you never fucking know if he's gonna
00:49:04
Speaker
lose his fucking head. He's behaved for the most part, I will say he has. But but I thought I did not like the way he was acting in this whole post scrum scrum. As you said, no one covered themselves in glory. No, and that's like, that's the one where you know, because he's he and I think it's more of a you got to know that you you know, you're you're rehabbing your reputation and doing a good job of it. So don't
00:49:27
Speaker
Don't get involved in shit like that. Yeah, don't get in there. To Borthwick's credit, when asked later in the week about it, he took the high road and said, well, we didn't want to win the scrum penalty afterwards, did we? No. And so he had the option to go. He was given the option to go uncontested scrum, which I and losing Callum. So you had the option to be up to with an uncontested scrum. And instead you had to pitch a shit fit. And a follow came in and kicked your ass. So, yeah, you got to be taking the high road because you fucked up.
00:49:56
Speaker
He did. And he said, you know, and they asked about the weight. And he's like, you know what, we all wait for TMO decisions. We wait for this. We wait for that. So he, he took the high road. He would, he might've been pissed in the heat of the moment. And sometimes that happens. Trust me, I've been, been there, done that. But at least post he could, where he could have taken shots. He just shut up and said, nope, I'm gonna, I think my hat here and be done. Like I understand it being that.
00:50:20
Speaker
Because I likely would be in the same kind of situation, but I'd be mad that there was no penalty try by that point. Yeah, probably a little bit lucky at that point. But if a referee offers me.
00:50:34
Speaker
another man off an uncontested scrum on their five meter line. Guess what I'm doing? I'm taking the uncontested scrum and, you know, my, you know, however I want to do it, if I want to, you know, have an eight man pick, if I want to like, and then you have your choice of attacking options with that.
00:50:52
Speaker
You say, I back my team to score a try in that situation. And that's it. I have no problem with that. I'd be like, all right, let's fucking do it. People have this fucking bug up their ass about uncontested scrums. And it's like fucking. It's not pretty, but man, to have clean ball off a scrum is really a blessing. On the five meter line. Right. Right. Yep. And two men up where they have to have everyone in the scrum. So they still have to have eight.
00:51:22
Speaker
So I mean, they have five. They have five out there. I just I what are you thinking? Mm hmm. I agree. Yeah, that's that's I think what pissed me off the most about forthwick. It was like not only are you being stoop like I might have made a knucklehead decision on that. Right. Yeah. But hey, I'll whatever. Yep. Yep. Yep. So it goes. Let's run over to Brentford.
00:51:47
Speaker
And that was this was another amazing match. Really was. Man, this was so good. And I was. Number one, I did not guess this outcome was going to happen at all. I was like, no way they're going to get this done. And fucking Tom Willis just wills his way to his team getting a victory. I knew I well, I can't say I knew, but I had already seen from my team that Willis scored three. But I'm still watching and I'm like,
00:52:16
Speaker
I thought he was going to score three. Right at the end. They're not going to do it. It's over. They're not going to do it. No, it's done. And then no, 86 minutes. Save the best for last, man. Yeah.
00:52:31
Speaker
So both, I mean, both teams played brilliant rugby in this match and a couple of hammerhead decisions now and again, which is no shock to anybody. Uh, but really this is, yeah, this was just two good teams going at it and really trying to outrace each other for, for who had the most tries.
Northampton vs. Exeter
00:52:47
Speaker
Like that, that is a rugby match that you want to watch, especially as a neutral, like.
00:52:53
Speaker
get just like put on a show guys like go out there and you know i tell i tell my kids express yourself you know right do as you feel there was only one thing i did not like about this match and that was that they took ollie hoskins off 25 minutes in
00:53:10
Speaker
Did you play him? Well, yeah, but are you fucking dumbass? That's why that's your problem. Well, no, but why would you take? First off, he's a good fucking cop. I don't know. I think he got hurt. Honestly, he was just not having a good day. Well, yeah, he was. He was kind of I think he was getting his ass kicked in the scrum, but he was doing really well in the loose. So it's like that that's what you get with Ali Hoskins.
00:53:30
Speaker
So I bet it just seems like he's being capped at 25 minutes, whether it's, um, first way or the other. Right. One way or the other. And that's, I think what, what kind of annoyed me. I was like, okay, good. You know, Hoskins has been playing well. Um, let's see him for, for more time. That's all I was, I was, I was expecting longer, but that's, that's such a minor complaint. Everything else. So, so small. Marcus Watson, um, showing really well. Um, yeah. First match in a while to your, your buddy to his two week two for two week.
00:53:59
Speaker
Yeah, big time. Yeah. Marty too. So he hopefully on that Fiji team playing the all black soon with his, uh, his beard. Yeah. His beer is not red anymore. That's disappointing. It's extremely disappointing as if we didn't have enough good matches this weekend. We got one more Sunday, North Hampton and Exeter and another doozy. And man, this was just, oh, so much fun to watch. And,
00:54:29
Speaker
hutch was hutch of old and you know steward hog looked like the like the guy that we know and love and sam skinner validated why we all love him as both as a player and as a fancy asset like yep and you know all this while dave verbins was sitting on the sideline uh yeah i mean yeah exactly like
00:54:49
Speaker
Okay. Of the four teams that we know are obviously going to go to the semis, I have the least confidence in Exeter right now. Northampton, we're putting it to them. Yeah. Somebody said like they stopped counter-racking. I was like, why did you guys stop counter-racking? Keep doing it. I know it's not. It's a bit of a risk when you have a guy off the field, but it's worth working. Why'd you stop? Yeah. But fuck.
00:55:19
Speaker
It was just a, you know, hell of a match and, and Exeter had him, had him for the, for, for a good long time. Um, and yeah, it was the, you know, I, I expected that halftime lead to, to reduce itself. Oh, at some point, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. If, if saints had a two minute halftime instead of like a 12 or 12. Yeah.
00:55:38
Speaker
Uh, they would have won this match. Um, unfortunately you get, you know, when you're exited, you start, you know, really, really thinking about it. And, and, and for the saints, you know, get to cool down and then all of a sudden you got to go out there and it's, it's just a different energy. It's yeah, it's one of those, like you kind of, if you felt it early, like, Oh, this could go the other way. Yep. Very much so. You could, you could feel the energy through the, uh, through the Roku.
00:56:08
Speaker
Definitely. Yeah, we saw Simmons and Biggs both leave this match. It sounds like there's nothing too concerning, although I would bet the farm that you don't see Sam Simmons this weekend. I bet you don't see Dan Bigger this weekend either. Same. Yep. I would say that as well. One point I do want to make, and we all know how much I... There are so many jags on Exeter that I just want to freaking punt somebody in the face that's wearing a black shirt over there.
00:56:36
Speaker
With all the talent in the world that Harvey Skinner has, why the fuck are you continuing to fucking beat your head into the wall with Ian Whitten? Remember how we were talking earlier about experience? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, he's not a complete helmet and doesn't do anything stupid, but like... But he's not good. It's almost useless. Yeah. He's pretty useless out there, honestly. Without use.
00:57:00
Speaker
Um, and this kid, and this kid Skinner's got boatloads of talent. Yeah. And yeah. Okay. If he's like supposed to your backup 10, whatever fucking shipped him to 12. Why the hell is that hard? Right. I don't get it. I don't get it.
00:57:13
Speaker
Oh, so that's a frustrating thing to watch. Well, it's, it's, it's chiefs. They're, they're not. Right. And then it's Dubai, Cordero, Facundo, Cordero came off because he was playing brilliantly to start that second half. And it sounds like he picked up something to get himself picked, pulled. I was like, no, he's playing so well. And that killed my fancy team too. Among other things. Yeah, it did end our, it hurt in TRM for sure.
00:57:41
Speaker
I was hoping to get a sneaky, sneaky, like 20 to 25 points from him. Yeah. Oh yeah. Easy. I thought easy 25 points. Yeah.
00:57:50
Speaker
All right. Free Jack's M-L-R
MLR Highlights
00:57:54
Speaker
whip around. Free Jack's match was a brilliant one. It was a very good match. It was a brilliant one. And the boys played extremely well. Yeah. So amongst all the things that you didn't see or maybe you did see, when they had one of the scraps, I don't know who it was. I think it was Roberts Tanana and Tola Ta'u were like pretending to fight like Ta'u was pretending to knee him in the stomach.
00:58:18
Speaker
man, I was dying. I was laughing. So everybody else is like getting pissy with the frigging, with the brawl that was in the middle or whatever scrap that was in the middle. And I am laughing my ass off at that. I was laughing so hard. I must've missed that because there was a time that our feed died for like 20 minutes. That's right. You said that. So yeah, I must've missed that one. Oh man. That was, that was hilarious. I was dying so hard, but you know, Bo Walker 10 wasn't so bad.
00:58:46
Speaker
No, it wasn't at all. And I fuck you. You kind of expect that. Yeah, he's a good player. He's a very good player. So of course, yes, a lot of minutes. And he's he's moved all over the pitch now. Yeah, he's now played fullback. He's played wing. He's played 10 and Johnny Poland. Fucking hell. He's going to prop soon. He's going down.
00:59:05
Speaker
Yeah, I know. We'll see you walk out one soon. Yeah. But you pointed out or made a very good point with the cozia signing. We got two players really for one because we did tall talk. Now is now can play the back row where he's more comfortable when I think we all we saw that two weeks ago or yeah, when we played the arrows, they stuck them in the back row. They're like, yeah, we know this is your spot. Here you are. We have another guy that was already inbound into Boston. Right. That day, basically.
00:59:32
Speaker
And he was like, yep. They were just like, yep, this is your place. So we're going to put you back in your happy place and let you do your thing. And he scored. He scored really well.
00:59:42
Speaker
Loads of credit and the man, the man is class. And I got to have a, have a quick conversation with the guy, Danny Tuesday, the nine from DC. I was pouring so much shit into this dude's ear as much as I could. Cause he's such a really good player for DC. And like, I was like, I got to throw this guy off his game. Did you trip about the lettuce at all?
01:00:02
Speaker
No, that was actually one thing I didn't get in. There's one, one thing I did not get in. You think that'd be the obvious thing, but you know, so, and then he starts acknowledging me, which was the funny part. And people around me are laughing their ass off about it. Cause they know easy. So I mean,
01:00:20
Speaker
When you acknowledge a guy in the stands, whether or not you're enjoying it or you hate it, the second you acknowledge a person, they're gonna keep going. And it just, obviously it had a few beers, so just gave me a little bit more oomph.
01:00:35
Speaker
So I was, yeah, and I was pouring. So afterwards he came, I was standing by the stands and he came over and I was like, listen, dude, I'm only doing it because you're such a really good player and I needed to give our boys a shot. And he was super classy, but I was like, nah, man, I love it. I totally love it.
01:00:53
Speaker
So he climbed up and he took a picture with me and he's just a, he's, he's a, he's a superclass act. I hope some, um, eventually get him back into their fold. Cause he's totally deserving. The dude looks like he's just, he's one of the best players on that team without doubt. And that team goes as he tells two to tall ago. So.
01:01:10
Speaker
Plus, there's a natural rivalry there, not just because the East Coast, but we were born the same year. So it's like you were. No, I mean, I know. I know the DC and the New England were both created the same year. Yeah. So, yeah, it's it's but, yeah, so super class act like I was. And I really enjoyed having a quick chat with a dude and he was super appreciative of it. And, yep, that was the type that would, you know,
01:01:42
Speaker
I'm not going to be a dick. I'm not going to be like insult his mom or something like that. Like touch, touch kicker. Yeah, that's, that's mine. Yeah. I'm definitely that guy.
01:01:55
Speaker
Yeah. So that was, so yeah. Superclass act. Thanks Danny for doing that. You're, you're all class man. Um, we'll put around for the MLR Austin beat Houston shocker of the day. Houston's terrible. Atlanta beat Nola. Yes. Finally. Some beat fucking Nola. Um, San Diego with Danny prior in the lineup, um, beat Toronto with 40 to 30. Uh, obviously we took down DC and in the final match of the weekend, Utah beat Seattle. Seattle is not very good this year. And guess who they're playing next. Oh, I can't wait this weekend. I can't wait.
01:02:23
Speaker
They're going to. That's a that's a bit of a trip, too. So it is. Yeah, that's not fun for them. Yeah. But, you know, I'm I'm disappointed they suck because I've been looking forward to seeing Seattle play. Right. And they've been so good. Ross Neal. So what is that? And they do like the kids. Yeah. And we'll see what the high team guy is like, because that's that's that's one of Gary Gold's new favorites. So some you should be there, right?
01:02:53
Speaker
No. Okay. That's what you think enough. Okay. That's right. So yeah, there was, there'll be that. Okay. We got that start something we like to do. Well, we do. And I go first.
FRD Finals Week Strategies
01:03:08
Speaker
So you're up first. I'm up with, wait, I can find it. There we go. Hurricanes, Reds. Um,
01:03:17
Speaker
So here we go. It's FRD finals week, so you're not going to not start anyone if they're starting, if you have a gap. There's just people that I really would avoid. So this is where I'm saying if you have that gap, try to look somewhere else.
01:03:34
Speaker
Um, you know, these teams are good versus outside backs. So both of them. So I'm looking for kind of the weak, weak links. Um, and in that back line for the hurricanes, it's, it's West Houston, which isn't saying much, but I expect the other two to get more points. Um, read Prince. Um, Ruben love, uh, cause mostly cause he's not kicking, right? No, he's no, no, Jordan's kicking.
01:03:57
Speaker
So it's not a good spot to have a 10 that doesn't kick. No, and against the Reds, I'm not really. I wouldn't be a party about that, that's for sure. Right. And the lock Scrafton and Blackwell, just no, you find another lock. There's going to be plenty available. There'll be plenty, no doubt. On the Reds, I'd avoid Matt Greeley. I know we talked about him positively, but probably not this week. Still not a point scanner, though.
01:04:19
Speaker
Right. Um, exactly. And the same, again, the same thing. The, um, the, uh, hurricanes are very good against outside backs and what, so the other two should score. So I'm guessing really well. Um, and then Angus got young, I think is another one to avoid, but other than that, everyone on the reds, I don't, I would not look at your crosswise if you started them. Jared has had a dog enter the room.
01:04:50
Speaker
Player dog has entered the chat.
Brumbies vs. Highlanders Preview
01:04:55
Speaker
Okay, my turn. Brumbees and Highlanders. Highlanders in the middle of the pack and points against six. So might have some spots, might not so much. For the Brumbees, Mack Hansen, his production fell off a little bit, but that's mostly because of injury. He's back in the 15 and the Highlanders are one of the worst against the Brumbees. Yeah, so the Highlanders are one of the worst against the outside back. So I'd give him a shot.
01:05:17
Speaker
He could tell Simone hounders are our middle of the pack against mids and they're both really good for him. So I'd give him, give them a roll as well. Kunzel talked them up last week. Hounders are number one against fly-offs though. So don't play him. Sorry. I know this would have been a week to get cute, but this isn't it. Brumby's are number one and points against, but this is the hounders and they are cooking with gas. So let's see what they got. Collins. Yep. He's a, he's a no brainer. At 13 seems to be his home. Mitch Hunt.
01:05:47
Speaker
playing pretty well. And this is definitely a spot that also the Brumby's can be had at 10. Aaron Smith love him. Brumby's a third against points against and versus halfback and he's not one that takes off. So that's the problem with him. So I would go no.
Rebels vs. Crusaders Discussion
01:06:05
Speaker
On to the Rebels versus Crusaders. We really couldn't talk enough about Wells and Nasirani and they should do very well against the shockingly the worst loose forward defense. That's funny. In Super Rugby Crusaders. Everything else the Crusaders are good. So I, good fucking luck. I'm not sure I would
01:06:28
Speaker
recommend too many of the rebels, but outside of Wells and Nazarani, those guys should do pretty okay. On the other side,
01:06:37
Speaker
Cullen, Grace, I would or whoever's at eight, I would not know. Scary. But I feel he's been pretty good, but not him. Definitely not. No. All the other Crusaders are fine. So really, that's just your you're pretty much your eight man from. This is the only one I'd take a flight. I'd like. No, I would pass. Take a waiver on because I don't don't want to.
01:07:01
Speaker
Nope. And I would highly recommend everyone else on the Crusaders, because as we mentioned earlier, they need a lot of points. So they're going to go ballistic. They're going to. Yeah, they're going to score tries. That's what they do.
Blues vs. Force Forecast
01:07:14
Speaker
Absolutely bananas. Blues and force force and flip to eight and points against into rugby, F.R.D.
01:07:20
Speaker
plenty of options for coming at you for the blues. Um, Fionny, someone needs to capitalize on all the attention that Rico gets. I think it says his turn this week to blow to force are awful against locks and you're probably going to start a lock on the final this week. He's a pretty good one to have.
01:07:36
Speaker
Robinson whoever or whoever plays six for the force are actually tough against loose forwards. That six hole is the one I'm worried about the most. But I mean, jeez, if it's Akira, I'm not gonna tell you not to play him. And even Robinson is actually not a bad play, but I just be very weary about that spot. That's the only thing.
01:07:52
Speaker
Blues have risen to number two in points against per match in Super WFRD. Look out, Perth. Force front row. Blues aren't particularly good against them. The front rows and force usually produce at some level, so that might be an okay play if you're stuck. Miati, still startable. Blues are fourth against fly-offs, but I think
01:08:13
Speaker
the force, um, stay in this game with pens and he's the one kicking them. So there you go. Uh, Ferguson Warner was a popular pick at the start, not quite working out this year for the force to lose forward. So if you're relying on him in a final, I am very sorry. That's all I know.
01:08:32
Speaker
So to the last match, the only one that really matters, because here's what's going to happen. Every other Australia team is going to win. And then it's up to the Chiefs to pull it off.
Chiefs Performance Highlights
01:08:42
Speaker
Pull it off. Now, so but probably not going to happen, but I'm pretty sure the Chiefs are going to pull it off anyway.
01:08:51
Speaker
For the ties, the Chiefs are shutting down flyhaves. So even with Harrison coming back and looking good. There you go. Yeah, you're still going to start him. I know. Mark Nwakatanawasi and Maddox are fine. Parisi too, but not Phuketi. He hasn't been scoring well too much anyway. But also, Chiefs have been pretty good. They're good against midfielders. It's one of those. Parisi will get the points, and Phuketi won't.
01:09:18
Speaker
It's frustrating as hell. That's all I know. Yeah, it's like twins. You know, there's one Arnold Schwarzenegger and one Danny. Yes. It's a good one. It's a good reference. Yeah. And then for every one of the chief should be fine. They have been just scoring like kind of what I said once once Mackenzie's out of the way, hogging shit. Everyone else is just lighting it up. Even two pi who can't fucking throw a pass or be in a rock or pick attack or whatever anywhere basically.
01:09:47
Speaker
They got points for the meters you run, not what you do when you're done. So that's why he's a fine start. But other than that, there you go. Yeah. Of the weeks. Of the weeks. Hopefully this guy starts. I'm a huge fan of this guy and I actually had him as a sit not too, too long ago.
01:10:06
Speaker
But it does me great pleasure to put him on this list this time. His opposition is not, is not very strong, uh, fancy points wise, uh, in defense. And, uh, I love the way he plays and his playing style is perfect as a halfback. So my start of the week for the final round of super rugby trans Tasman is all blacks and chiefs. Halfback Brad Weber. Nice. Well, okay. We're staying the same match. Um, I'm going just a little bit wider.
01:10:33
Speaker
And I'm going with Anton Leonard Brown. A-L-B. I picked him like three weeks ago, so I can't do it. Because, you know, we've talked about Quintupia being... That means he's the one who gets replaced, right? Vancouver comes on and does so much better. So, yeah, Anton Leonard Brown is going to play the whole match and he might put a couple down.
01:10:57
Speaker
be surprised. I'm thinking a brace. I'm feeling a brace for Antonina Brown. Sounds good. That's a good, that's a good marker right there. So the week, um, I, I don't, I don't have a love or a heat for this guy, but, um, the team he's playing and the position he's playing. And I know everything, everything says otherwise, but there's always one person that's odd man out when it comes to this, um, this position. Yeah. And I really don't, I really don't like
01:11:25
Speaker
his production and as a fancy wise and I love the other two. So my say of the week for the final round of Super Rugby Transpasmin is Rebels lose forward Richard Harvick.
01:11:37
Speaker
There you go. Yeah, it's like that. You know what? Yes, I was going to mention him, but then I didn't. Now you got it. Yeah. But Wells and Nazarani, you know, yes. That being my point. That being my point. Right. And mine, I mentioned him and we and we both kind of agree that this is a guy you just don't want at this position because of the situation he's in where he's not kicking anything, which is really where tens get a lot of their points because they're, you know, unless
01:12:06
Speaker
they go for a scoot. Um, they're just, you know, everything's for the, through the boot. Hey, that runs. Um, anyway, my set of the week is Reuben love. I love the kid. And I think he's doing, he does such a better job than urban ledger does el canado. Um, but you know,
01:12:22
Speaker
What he does is just not points getting, but it's something that the hurricanes need. So, unfortunately, that's just the bad news for Ruben Love owners. And trust me, I tried. I rode Ruben Love as long as I could in fancy. I just couldn't anymore. You think you get like five tri-assists per match? Every once in a while, he picks one up and that's when he's worth it. But that's not something you want to bank on.
01:12:44
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Up to the prom. There's a home semi final play here. It's Exeter and sale.
Exeter vs. Sale Preview
01:12:50
Speaker
Full noise lineup for both. I would expect. Absolutely. With a few wrinkles here and there. Still a sale. I don't know. This is for a home. This is for a home semi. Right. This is huge. I think they both go. Yeah. Because the last team, can you name the last team that won an away semi final in the prom? Fuck no. I don't think I've ever seen it. It was the Saracens against Northampton.
01:13:14
Speaker
Oh, there you go. It was like six years ago now. Yeah. It was a mere year for the Saracens. They snuck in. They beat Northampton. They won the final. I was right. I was dead. I was dead snuffing down my apartment that day. That was that was before my really giving a fuck about. Yeah. Catherine was an international.
01:13:31
Speaker
Yeah, the boss was really annoyed with me that day. Anyway, back to back to the now. This is for sale. All the testicles. Yeah, sale is still no fun to play against fancy purposes, especially in, you know, otherwise for Exeter, Slade, Saylor are milled to bat against midfield, believe it or not. So I wouldn't hesitate to play him, especially since he's probably the more dynamic of their midfielders, despite his stupidity. Hogg, same story. Sale are poor against fullback, especially in TRM.
01:14:02
Speaker
FRD, they're better against OBs, but you're still playing Stuart. So, Stuart, so do that. Sam Simmons is normally a full go.
01:14:11
Speaker
but he might not be in this match. So that would be something I would give caution to probably not worth the C this week either. Yeah. Oh yeah. No, definitely not nice to see him. Unsee him. Uh-huh. Uh, Exeter fifth in TRM and second in FRD and points against per match for sale. Bevin rod, Exeter are awful against props and front rows. Off you go. You know, the way you go, especially if Neil's in the lineup anywhere, whether he's on playing 20 or a starting, give him, give that a go. Cause he's less as a hooker right now. Right.
01:14:40
Speaker
Uh, the debris of twins don't hesitate to give them both a full, full noise should be fine this week. Um, quirk, not faff, maybe quirk off the bench. Even, um, I like him. Uh, as we said last week, Byron McGuigan, Exeter, our second against wings and OBs. He's a hard no go this week. Um, in either format, if you can help it.
Bath vs. Saints Analysis
01:15:02
Speaker
Uh, onto the bath for saints, um, which would be interesting cause there's, you know, saints have nothing to play for. So they, who knows what kind of lineup they're going to throw out there. Yeah. Throw, throw some, some newbies out there. Um, whereas bath need a win. Um, just to, to, to stay in champion, just to make sure that they stay in champions cup. Um,
01:15:23
Speaker
So looking at this again and did the same thing here for TRM, you're going to go mostly with your guys. You know, you kind of know who's going. Like Beth and Saints both are terrible fantasy defenses. So probably play everyone. Yeah, lots of options. But for the so I'm sticking more with the the FRD side of this, because you're you know, you're looking for advice for your final. The Max's Ojomo and Clark, they're probably on on your free agent wire.
01:15:52
Speaker
at this point, pick one of them. And maybe both. If you're missing both, all you had was Worcester and Gloucester centers. Well, Venter and Harris were one of mine for a while. Oh, yeah. I'm doing some butt clenching this week just for a couple of key spots. But Ojomu and Clark are
01:16:19
Speaker
Yes, our full go. Absolutely. I would say avoid the path front row in both formats because without their guys, they're not good. Yeah, no, I don't know, done. Right. Northampton are quality against loose forwards, but I trust the bath loosies anyway. And Priestland should score well in both formats because Saints still, as much as the defense has improved, it's not great against 10s.
01:16:42
Speaker
Well, on the other side, like I said, I'm looking at grace, looking at Grayson for 10. I would check again, check the waiver wire. He may just be sitting there right now. Pick him up now before the lineups are announced, just so that you have him in case, you know, you'd rather have him than have your opponent pick him up once he realizes that he's, you know, he's just sitting there. So what you're telling me is you've already grabbed him.
01:17:09
Speaker
I believe I have actually. Dick. Sorry, I think I have Simmons in that league. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yes, I have Grayson in the league. I just checked. There you go. Right. And that's, you know, of course, Marcus Smith is going to be my starter if he's playing. So you don't have to worry too much.
01:17:29
Speaker
But yeah, everyone's a full go for Saints. Yeah. For FRD, everyone. For TRM, I'd focus more on the backs, because again, oh, we didn't mention ribbons being suspended. He's out for three weeks, which is why earlier I said, you know, he's out for Eddie no matter what.
01:17:48
Speaker
So, yeah, I did. They don't really get much points outside of ribbons in the certainly in the locks. And I don't know about Medivacy this weekend. So, yeah, for TRM focus on the backs. Yeah.
01:18:00
Speaker
No, no joke. Woss, Leicester, Leicester need to hang on to this. They have a chance to actually fall out of Champions Cup spots, believe it or not. So that's a terrifying thought for them, I'm sure.
Wasps vs. Leicester Dynamics
01:18:11
Speaker
Leicester are fourth and fifth in points against per match, stiffening up just a bit, phrasing. Plenty on the line here for them, like I said. For Woss, Tom Willis has four makes him top to turn down. Leicester are very poor against number eight on top of that, so give him a go.
01:18:26
Speaker
Charlie Atkinson decent, uh, contrarian player outside the box play, whatever you want to call it. Let's start a poor against fullbacks and he's played fairly well for his time at 15. Although as much as we talked about it being a bit of a exposition at Watts, funny that we actually had that conversation before I even noticed.
01:18:44
Speaker
After I wrote this, we're forgetting that I had already written it. For Agree, Lester are tough on the hooks. This is not going to help because of his throwing issue. So if he's their starter, I wouldn't play him. Sorry. Wasser fourth and sixth in points against per match. Some stiffening of their own. Jasper, play him with caution. His call up to the box will definitely have his tail up, but Wasser number two against number eight. So if that's his position of choice, eee.
01:19:12
Speaker
They're actually software against flankers those in TRM. So there you go. Youngs and with Montoya back, I foresee a pretty dead even split for the two of them. So that's tough for as a hooker. You want them playing 55, 60 easily. I would say this what's going to be like 45.
01:19:30
Speaker
50 maybe right maybe so yeah keep that keep your eyes peeled on that one so I'd be a little if it's not Montoya on the bench and or starting obviously wouldn't worry about either one of them too much then it might be all right pretty Stuart 100% lesser fullback for a long time just not a good fantasy producer don't play him please no pretty please no not in the final not in the final another intriguing match bears versus the Irish hmm
01:19:58
Speaker
I don't know who's going to play for Bristol. They've shown
Playoff Lineup Predictions
01:20:02
Speaker
good. They might want, you know, then obviously they've got little heated at the end of last week. They might want to, you know, have some, you know, cooler heads. Yeah. But at the same time, they're also playing for, you know, that's if exit or win that, you know, they could, you know, they're playing for a home field. They could leave problem. Yeah. Right. So they don't they don't want to play sale. Let's put it that way. They want to play Queens. That too. Nobody wants to play sale.
01:20:27
Speaker
But for the bears though, just start everyone. It doesn't matter if they're playing on this, even if it's more on hands. Like he might be worth it. He's the only one I'd say maybe not, but I don't think he'll be playing anyway. I think he had his time. They're ready. Purdie will be in there. Or now Lago, which I would hope to see because I think he would be, I would hope that he would be part of their full noise team and we haven't seen him in a while.
01:20:56
Speaker
Yeah, might be picked up or things you didn't know about. Right. So anyway, for the Bears, start everyone. On the Irish, a lot of you have probably made it to the finals through at least one of the Irish outside backs or local centers. This is not the week to rely on Irish outside backs. No. Thanks. Or their centers. Or their loose forwards.
01:21:24
Speaker
or their front row. Yeah, tough man. Yeah. You're going to need some like you're going to start them because you never know one of the one. It's like the same thing we talked about in in super rugby. One of them. Yes, we'll get the points. But instead of this being like two of them will score and one of them won't. It's like five of them won't score and one of them will.
01:21:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's terrifying. That's where you are in this match. It's terrifying. Yeah, you go well. Godspeed. Yeah. Godspeed. We're all with you. All right. Quinn's in Newcastle. Newcastle are bottom four in both formats, but they're obviously playing for a shot at a Champions Cup spot, so they might come out with their tails up a little bit. We'll see what the Quinn's team comes out as well.
01:22:11
Speaker
For the Quinn's, my guess is Louis Lina, we might see him again, and probably in the starting lineup, and he usually performs when he's in there, so I'd give him a go. Will Edwards score really well, even if it wasn't garbage time last week? It still counts, remember that. Might be an even better this week, a week this week, because he's not playing nearly the stiffer opposition as he did last week. Lindaho, been in good form since DC came off the field against Bath.
01:22:40
Speaker
But Newcastle are actually one of their teams against nine. That's the terrifying part. So if you need to, in FRD, close your eyes and hope and pray. I may need to. I think I'll be okay doing that.
01:22:54
Speaker
So yeah, close your eyes and hope. Quinn's middling to bad in terms of points against per match. With a rotated squad, I'd say the emphasis might be on bad. We'll see. For the Falcons, Radwin, absolutely worth the play. Return to the team and just has that speed and ability to finish.
01:23:13
Speaker
two tries last week. I don't see why he doesn't get another one this week. So that's a thumbs up for me. Peterson or Robinson, both are great plays this week. How the coins are, aren't that good against second rows, especially if they're going to sit anybody, especially like I said, Levis, Jesus. Yeah, I definitely play them without, without him in there. On the other side of the coin, Burrell, Orlando, no goes this week. Quinn's are actually still pretty mean up the middle. It's the one spot that they tend to really defend. Well, it doesn't matter who's in the, in there for them. So I'd give that a hard thumbs down.
Fantasy Start of the Week
01:23:45
Speaker
And then we're going to our of the weeks of the weeks of the weeks. You mentioned my start of the week as a potential not playing. I believe he will be playing. And it was going to be basically down to him or Dave ribbons. And that was before I'd seen that. So I looked it up. That's where that's actually where I learned that ribbons was suspended because I was like, nobody I haven't seen anything on your posts about it.
01:24:11
Speaker
So I just I wasn't sure that it had happened. I was like, well, he got a red. So I'm sure he was suspended. And yes, he was. So yes, he was. But this guy, he's been injured, but he's always been awesome when he's played. And now he's come back. He's been informed and his opponent, Newcastle, are just terrible against locks. They're the worst in the prem. And this guy is a very high scoring lock. So the stars are aligning first to find Louise to rock up. Yeah.
01:24:41
Speaker
I mean, if he's in, definitely, definitely. I would, I would, I think that, yeah, I think the Quinn's took last week off the, again, the same thing that the Bristol did. Um, and I think they're going to, um, get there at their top side informed this week. I think that's the, that's the plan. Yeah. I think it might be, I think you're right. I think it'll be a mixed bag of who starts and who comes off the bench though. Possibly. I think that'll be it. So I'll be the tough part to figure out. But I still think they're, they're big names. They're big names will play. And then there'll, there are other guys, you know, I mean, like,
01:25:10
Speaker
I don't know. Like Danny care may come off the bench, but I'm, I'm sure that Marcus is playing. I'm sure that Dom's playing and I feel, I feel pretty confident that Louise is playing too. So there you go.
01:25:22
Speaker
My start of the week looked great in his return last week against some pretty tough opposition and he is definitely vying for a potential white shirt this summer and I hope he gets it. And
Fantasy Sits and Starts
01:25:36
Speaker
also he's definitely been one of the best nines in the prime this year. So my start of the week is England hopeful and Northampton halfback Alex Mitchell. There you go.
01:25:45
Speaker
I was going in a different direction, but yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I thought you were going to go with Harry Rental. No, I love him. I love him too. I love him too. I hope he gets a white shirt as well. I hope he does too. No, it was just one of those like, I knew he was absolutely certain he were talking about until. Until I said Northampton, you're like, Oh, like, Oh, that. Oh, now I know you're talking about. Now I got it. Yeah, I got you. Um.
01:26:11
Speaker
My set of the week is I didn't mention his name when I was telling about that, you know, not talking about the or not playing the Irish backs this week. Bristol are killing outside backs. Let's put it this way. Only Anthony Watson has broken 10 and 20. So 10 points in FRD, 20 points in in TRM in the last four weeks against Bristol. And I think that's that's either pretty much. I think maybe someone's done either, but not not both.
01:26:42
Speaker
In that same timeframe, Ali Hassell Collins has broken 10 and 20 only once he's not informed. And, and, and, but to your point, I would hope that he might be in contention for Eddie's team, but, you know, as, you know, as a replacement and, you know, just get him, get him some experience there. Cause he's been fucking amazing. Um, but on this kind of form that he's showing that I'm not seeing it. So I hate to say this sit Ali Hassell Collins.
01:27:09
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate. Unfortunate. Because you need 10 points. You probably need 20 points from outside back in FRD if you're going to win. You'll need 20 points this weekend. Ali's not going to do it. Yeah.
01:27:25
Speaker
Yep. Yep. Yep. Well, mine's from the same match. Um, these guys have just been mean, mean to this position and they are, and they just continue to be a complete nightmare. Whether or not their own positions performed is relevant because you're figuring out what guys you don't want to play at this point. Right. So, um,
01:27:45
Speaker
You know, this guy's gonna be a popular pick and I don't blame you anybody whatsoever. I love the guy as well But it's your start of the week from last week. No, no my say the week for the final round of prom and regulation here is Australian born and lost London Irish prop Ollie Hassell Collins in the London Irish front row and
01:28:08
Speaker
Oh, you mean Ollie? Ollie Hoskins. Ollie Hoskins. Excuse me. The other Ollie. You said that Ollie and I did that. I thought you were going to go with Rona. Nope. Cause I think he was also my, he was close. And then I realized that Ollie has the Collins. Was it? Um, yeah, it was at least performed. Right. Well, Rona was your start of the week last week. So I thought maybe you were going to do, I thought you were going to do the flipper room. Nope. Nope. Nope. Uh, champions league, a final.
01:28:35
Speaker
Well, Carrick made it. Carrick's gonna finally be on the board. That a boy Carrick. That a boy Carrick.
Fantasy League Standings and Predictions
01:28:40
Speaker
Some of the dickhole made it too. I don't know who it is. I don't know. And then in Super, it's gonna be Justin and George. And oh, and you're in that SACO bracket too. You're in two SACO finals. What's wrong with you? Are they both against George? No, one's against Carrick.
01:29:03
Speaker
Oh, that's right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then you and I, somebody send us like a quick forfeit that we should, that we should put on the line for Ben and I, cause Ben and I are both, um,
01:29:14
Speaker
are playing each other in the podcast final. Right. It's kind of rude having to tell us. Sorry to everybody that was there. Thank you for joining our league. Yeah. And so we can tonk you. Whoops. Sorry. Oh man. Looking at TRM, I thought I was going to be able to close down Duncan and then went and had a fucking awful week. Oof. Ray ribbons did not help me at all.
01:29:40
Speaker
No, ribbons. Yeah, ribbons. I mean, yeah, you had it worse than me, so I'm not getting a plane right now. Yeah, I had 300 points. That was a bad week. Yeah, I had 452. I still had a very good week, but... Yeah, a decent week still. Yeah. That was just not a good one for me.
01:29:56
Speaker
But yeah, Ben's holding down top spot, Anton Duncan, myself. Seven points. Squeaky bum time there. George, Justin, Mark, and Carrick make up the bottom. The Champions League scoreboard tells you that Anton is pretty close to closing this thing down. So that's good for him. When we get ourselves some swag made, we'll make sure Anton gets himself a shirt.
01:30:22
Speaker
OK, let's go to pick them because it's going to actually tell us a lot about what we think is going to happen. Well, super to start hurricanes and reds. Oh, shit. Hold on. Let me find the fuck did it go? Sorry, I will. Give me a second. You can do it. I lost a tab. So, OK, hurricanes, hurricanes, reds.
01:30:52
Speaker
The hurricanes are, are, we're not informed last week. No, but they're in Wellington. They're in Wellington. Yeah. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go Keynes. The reds, reds shot. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Like this is going to be, this is going to be a frigging drag out fight. This is not going to be easy. Um, from these hollanders can the Brumby's get two in a row?
01:31:15
Speaker
No. Yeah. Highlanders. I didn't think so either. I was like, this Highlanders seems really good right now. They are clicking. Well, the Highlanders are playing for a spot in the final, right? They have to win. That's the bottom line. They have to win. Whatever the... There's no Lolo CO for Brumby's either. It's control. Oh, that's... Yeah. Okay. That kind of does it for me. There you go. Rebels Crusaders. Crusaders. Crusaders. Sorry, Rebels. Yeah, Crusaders are going to make this not fun.
01:31:43
Speaker
And then blues and force blues when they're in one, likely at least. Yeah, they're going to win. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, if we saw the force give the crusaders the hell of a shot, but the blues are, it's hard to say that they're worse than the crusaders right now or five much worse. So certainly not enough to, to lose this and that force again, or, uh,
01:32:11
Speaker
Yeah, on the road. Yeah, tough outfit, but still not going to get done. Toss and Chiefs. Yeah, I I anticipate this one to be very much like the first game of the year where for the tossing it with the toss and the canes at least the toss sake 60 odd points against like 40 or 50. And she's come out top. That's if that yeah, that's if that's a fair assessment or an expectation for this month, because yeah, the Chiefs are actually playing fairly solid defense.
01:32:40
Speaker
But I mean, as we saw last week, they could still give up. They can still give up tries when they feel like it. There's some talent on this team, too. And there is. So the ties are going to bring some, you know, bring some heat to this. Chiefs are already in country, I assume, at this point, because I'm assuming they stayed. Yeah. So it's not going anywhere else. Right. So I'm going to assume that they're they're, you know, fairly comfortable in their environs. And I think they take it. Handy. All right. So.
01:33:12
Speaker
Do Crusaders score and outscore the Highlanders? Yes. Okay, so we'll have Blues and Crusaders in the finals. Interesting. Well, it's the final everybody thought was going to be in Atero, which it wasn't. The Crusaders also have the added benefit of being a day later, so they know what they have to do. That's true. And that's why they're going to do it. Yep, that's true. That's true. Sorry, Rebels. That can't cover, man. Let's cover your eyes. This might be ugly. Exeter sail in the prem.
01:33:42
Speaker
Yeah, I really feel like Sanderson's going to prepare these guys because he's done this before. You remember he's been there since once or twice and he knows what this team is going to bring. So it's also that the Exeter are not.
01:33:59
Speaker
They're not, they're the, the week. I, right now they're the weakest team. If there were, there were, you know, we were doing power round things. Um, I don't think they'd be top four. They're, they're, they're, they're not, they haven't been that impressive lately. Um, and they've, they've been wobbly at times. Well, a little bit. So see what happens when they have 15 players on the field. Right. Although it's sale. So who knows how long that's going to last. Yeah, that might not be always, always last. Uh, anyway, uh, no Hampton bath.
01:34:30
Speaker
Beth need to win to stay in the, uh, um, I think that's, it's more desperation to stay. They have a lot more to play for North Hampton, have nothing to play for. Um, they're not going out of fifth place no matter what. So.
01:34:48
Speaker
No. Um, yeah, I think I liked the way they played though. So yeah, maybe the, maybe the rec gets, gets them over the line. Mostly. Yeah. That too, a lot's lining up in Beth's favor. So I'm taking them. There you go. Was in Lester. That might be a game you get to pick up on me. Oh, wasps. Really? Man. Lester need to play, play for this thing. Another thing that needs to play to stay in.
01:35:12
Speaker
Yeah. Um, but they both need to play to stay in. Yeah. They're both both in the same bucket. Um, wasps are, wait, where, where'd I go? Um, yeah. Wasps are, don't look at the tier on the table. I'm wrong. No, I'm not looking at that. That's why I'm switching back and forth between tabs that look different. Um, I was trying to find which, um, here I'm tab I needed. Um, I just, you know, wasps are at home.
01:35:38
Speaker
They needed just as much as Lester do and I like wasps better as a team. I know that they're, they're, they're struggling now with the, you know, with both centers out, but, um, I still think they get, I mean, they've, they've shown they can get it done. I mean, I like the rugby better, but that's really why I do agree. There's no question about that. Yeah. Um, it's going to be that kind of match. Yeah. Bristol and Irish.
01:36:05
Speaker
Bristol Yeah, it's hard for me to knock back Bristol. Yeah, especially a back at Ashton gate, right? Even if I change team. Oh, yeah, I still have to have to play but they need help, right? They need help. They need a lot of help. And I don't think they're gonna I mean, that's so somebody from Watson Bath are gonna lose. So there's that that notion, you know, Wasp and Lester. So someone's coming in. So yeah, that's true. They don't need help. They just need to win.
01:36:34
Speaker
Um, I don't know. I just, I, I think Bristol are playing Bristol are playing for more though, right? It's different when you're, you know, they're playing. They're still playing for the number one. They don't, they don't want to play sale. Right. Suppose that they don't want to play sale.
01:36:47
Speaker
you know, or Exeter if it happens to go that way. Right. You know, but although we'll know, but yeah, but if I sit or when then yeah, so they don't want to chance it. And with everybody kicking off at the same time, you ain't going to freaking know. So exactly. And, and they're just, they're a better team than Irish. And I think again, they're going to put their full noise team out there because they haven't, they don't want, you don't, you're not want to give your, your squad this whole split and just bring them back.
01:37:12
Speaker
in the knockout rugby, right? You're gonna want to play them at least once in the last few weeks. And Bristol haven't done that really. So this is their, again, them and Quinn's are gonna, I think, put their big guys in just to have them play. I think we'll see a lot of the Quinn's normal guys here, which is Quinn's new castle. Sorry, new castle. I don't think you make,
01:37:36
Speaker
Champions Cup this year as that's cool. The stories would be that's good for you. You don't want to talk to that would not be a positive experience. So no, no, I think I think the stuff they did in the Challenge Cup for the most part was pretty good. So I think that'll only help them go forward. All right, man, we didn't talk about anything. I feel like we let everybody down.
01:38:02
Speaker
No, there wasn't. I think I said not much to talk about this week. Fucking hell. All right. Well.
01:38:08
Speaker
Good news is we'll have a lot to talk about next week, but not so much to go on after that. Right. Yeah. Three matches, a couple of, yeah, three matches. So the start sit won't be nearly as it'll be two matches for start sit. We're going to pop a coin and see which one happens. Well, no, three. We'll get three because of the, um, the final super rugby trans has final. Yeah, but that's not a final for anything. Oh, that's right. There's no, yeah, there's nothing to talk about there. All right. There you go.
01:38:37
Speaker
No, we'll have a chat about it, but we're not going to do anything about it. Okay, this is the final. It's only one week. So final FRD. So good luck to all those in finals this weekend. May your forefits be a little bit less harsh than some. And may your SACO earning punishment be light. Yeah, no kidding.
01:38:59
Speaker
All right, but other than that, we will catch you guys next week and we appreciate you all for coming along, hanging out and listening to those babbles. We will talk to you guys soon. Have a good one. Later.