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Episode 50: Decluttering your Life (Inside and Out)
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In this grounding and reflective episode, we explore the many forms of clutter that accumulate in our lives, from physical belongings to digital noise to emotional baggage. Fresh off Lili's recent move to a new apartment in Colorado, we discuss how the process of letting go creates space for new energy, clarity, and intentional living.
We share personal stories about decluttering our homes, setting boundaries with technology and news consumption, and learning to discern what truly serves them. Whether it's Marie Kondo-ing your closet or taking a digital detox, this episode is a gentle reminder that clearing clutter, in all its forms, is an act of self-care and spiritual hygiene.
[01:34] How clutter shows up everywhere: physical space, mental space, and emotional baggage
[03:25] Why we accumulate so much junk, and why it's hard to let go
[06:18] Shannon donates furniture to help furnish an apartment for an unhoused trans woman in San Francisco
[09:05] Digital clutter: social media, news, emails, and information overload
[12:38] Lili's morning routine: dedicating the first hour to herself without checking her phone
[15:15] How TikTok's algorithm can trigger unexpected emotional reactions
[18:19] Setting boundaries around news consumption and reactive behaviors
[21:00] Lili's role as a healer: becoming a positive source of energy in a chaotic world
[23:28] Practical tips: reading, playing music, hobbies, walks, and time with friends instead of doom scrolling
[26:02] Starting small with physical decluttering: closets, kitchens, and the Marie Kondo method
[27:32] Shannon's first date inspiration: seeing an immaculate space sparked her decluttering journey
Note: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only.
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Transcript
Introduction to Energetic and Life Decluttering
00:00:05
Speaker
Hi, welcome to Psychic Girls Next Door. Thank you for listening. Thanks for being here. um So we are going to be talking about kind of like energetic clutter and the process of like decluttering your life.
Experiences with Physical and Internal Decluttering
00:00:20
Speaker
um I can definitely speak for myself. I've been focused on decluttering every aspect of my life. Believe it or not, then my space looks always cluttered. But I think when you are a like, it the internal realm is what really matters most.
00:00:36
Speaker
And Lily, I know that you recently moved to a new place as we can see in your background. Yes, I have. Yeah. If you are watching it, you know, on YouTube, you can probably see like my my background looks a lot different than the last episode.
Impact of Clutter on Emotional and Mental Spaces
00:00:53
Speaker
And I moved my new place. ah Yeah, it's been a big change. Yeah. Physical change, I want to say, but that also, of course, really impacts our internal worlds.
00:01:09
Speaker
But I do also believe that whatever is going on internally also reflects on the outside as well. Absolutely. but Yeah, it's been, it's been, you know, pretty recent. So, I mean,
00:01:23
Speaker
Like the background here looks pretty organized, but I, if I show you like behind the cameras and like on the sides on the floor, it's yeah like, if there's a lot of clutter. ah Yeah.
00:01:35
Speaker
No, no. And it creeps up in like every area of your life, not just like your physical space, but like, you know, emotional clutter, like mental
Reevaluating Belongings During a Move
00:01:45
Speaker
clutter. Like if my desk is cluttered, my mental clutter,
00:01:50
Speaker
space is cluttered like especially yeah at home like yeah it can it can be like such and it you don't realize how clutter impacts your life in a lot of different ways like since moving to this new space I mean you've had to move a couple different times the past couple years like where you have to like wall choose what you want to take and what you want to keep ah or you know what you want to take and get rid of how is that process kind of like help you almost like redefine and reshape what you're gonna you know how you're gonna decorate how you're gonna set your space up not only physically but also like mentally too how has that like shifted in the past couple years um i feel like that when you move a lot you do learn that gosh we do accumulate a lot of junk
00:02:40
Speaker
And the amount of clutter, it's always like every time I move, I'm like, where all this stuff came from? Like, why do I have so much junk and things that I don't need anymore? And why is all this clutter?
00:02:54
Speaker
And I think if this also translates into our lives, because we do carry baggage, we carry our own clutter. These are like things that we hold on. things that we like get really attached to. And for some reason, we don't wanna let it go, whatever it is.
00:03:11
Speaker
It could be an emotional thing, can be something that feels familiar or things that just make sense at the time. But every time I'm like, I would tell myself, okay, I'm not gonna buy more stuff.
00:03:25
Speaker
I am going to do my spring cleaning. So I have like all these goals. doesn't happen and that's okay, you know? Cause I mean, let's be honest, like moving, it's a pain, it can be a pain. I mean, it's exciting to move into a new space and all of that, but the process in itself, it's, you know, it's kind of annoying.
00:03:46
Speaker
Well, yeah, you like find things that you might have been avoiding dealing with or getting rid of or like realizing like, oh, I've been holding onto to this thing for like way too long and I like, I haven't touched it, I haven't looked at it it's just been like taking up space.
00:04:01
Speaker
like physically and energetically. Exactly.
Deciding What No Longer Resonates
00:04:04
Speaker
And I feel like the more you hang on to things, it's hard to create space for new things to come, right?
00:04:12
Speaker
And this, I think, applies both physically and energetically. But i've I think with this last move, I really um consider like, okay, what do I really need?
00:04:28
Speaker
Even some of the things that I brought from San Francisco here to Colorado, that I felt like, oh, this I think I might use it or might need it. i kind of like I took a second look at it. I'm like, but this thing, they don't resonate with me anymore.
00:04:43
Speaker
So I think I'm going to find... you know, another home for it or, you know, we recycle, donate it. And this is kind of like how I also see in my own life, just kind of taking a look at it.
00:04:59
Speaker
Well, how is this still working for me? Is this something that I still want to bring it in into this new chapter in my life? Or is it something that maybe did serve me at some point? But right now it needs to be upgraded because there were things that were left in the apartment here that they were not really my vibe.
00:05:22
Speaker
And that's okay. Yeah. And I'm going to like, yeah and i'm gonna like upgrade things and redecorate and do things like how I do like and things that do reflect my own self today.
00:05:37
Speaker
um So
Emotional and Physical Clutter from Unused Items
00:05:38
Speaker
that's been also a very interesting process too. Just kind of think you kind of discover things about yourself too. ah that you've kind of been and again like you put it in the closet so you never have to look at it again or you shovel under the bed because want to look at those things the spaces where like you can hide stuff or it's basically you like not dealing with your shit, like, so to speak, literally, like, you're like, Oh, i know that I might want to keep this. So like, i have random, I have five bins of like bins, like actual, like, full size bins. There's one literally under my desk right now.
00:06:18
Speaker
There's two behind me that I'm not going to show. um And all of this came from me donating a bunch of my furniture. So my friend Emily, she works in housing for unhoused individuals in San Francisco to go from basically living on the street to their first support home apartment.
00:06:41
Speaker
And so she usually they have furniture. The one that she didn't that she was working with recently did not have furniture. And this trans woman was moving in to this new place with and it was totally unfurnished. She posted on Instagram, hey, like my, like my clients looking for furniture ah we're in a pinch.
00:07:01
Speaker
I furnished her whole apartment. Well, that's amazing. Thanks. Yeah. that's it That's one of the things that I love about this too, is then things that, you know,
00:07:12
Speaker
you don't need anymore, you don't use anymore. Someone else might make great use of it Totally. And it felt so good, not only to like have it go to somebody who actually needs it, but like my Megan works for, you know, a cosmetics company. we I gave her one of my extra like travel suitcases.
00:07:31
Speaker
We filled it up with product. And she like opened it up and screamed and like literally like, you know, really nice product too. And so it wasn't only like me who was giving back, but my sister was able to get rid of like stuff. And like, so it was a win-win of like, you know,
00:07:49
Speaker
We not only like helped a person, of course, that's a great, like beautiful intentional thing, but we were able to, I was like, oh my god a free moving truck. Like I had selfish motivation a little bit, like, but I was like like able to shift and get rid of the energy and like get rid of stuff that had just been in my garage. Like we got rid of bed frame.
00:08:10
Speaker
We, um, I got rid of a dresser. i got rid of my work from home pandemic desk, um I got rid of a TV, literally, like, you know, the two boxes of kitchen stuff that you had left behind in my garage, we we gave it to this woman. That's amazing.
Creating Abundance through Letting Go
00:08:27
Speaker
I'm so happy to hear that. totally yeah And it's interesting you talk about this thing about like, giving yeah stuff away, because that's also like how abundance works.
00:08:38
Speaker
Right? Like you just kind of like, it's the this flow of energy. So you let go of things and then, you know, and that there's this flow of things that come back. So it did coming and going of things.
00:08:52
Speaker
And again, it's like this, all this stuff is just like a clutter space. Totally. And I feel like nowadays we are like bombarded with clutter, like digital clutter.
Digital Clutter and Mental Noise
00:09:05
Speaker
digital clutter oh my god don't even talk about my inbox like oh my gosh like it's not even like the email inbox but also like social media yes then it's like you get bombarded with all this like overload of information and uh of course people like going through honest like chaotic energy because there's like so much going on and that to me it's already cluttered right yes oh yeah it's just noise and like
00:09:34
Speaker
So much noise all the time. Like, just like in a lot of it's like related to instant gratification. But I think a lot of it is like distracting people from being able to connect and listen to their own information. And that, I mean, that's a society we live in like, especially in the US. Like, I mean, I don't know it's different.
00:09:54
Speaker
in like other parts of the world, but like, you know, the news now is now on TikTok and it's now, but it's also skewed news. And then it's people's opinions about what's happening in the world. And then, but also what's happening in their own realms. And for me, it's,
00:10:10
Speaker
you know, at first it was like yeah what's happening in their own realms as like a way to like connect with and like, you know, do something at home during the pandemic. But now it's shifted and evolved and there's so much marketing. And then you're like, oh, actually, maybe I do need that night guard, you know, like and for me, I do actually need a night guard. But like, you know, it's like literally like it's such a marketing scheme. And even like, I mean, we went to the Ares tour. we We saw Taylor Swift, her newest album, like just like the whole thing of like,
00:10:41
Speaker
she makes a new album. She's come out with like, I think eight different versions or something like that for her newest album. So like, and people will buy all eight versions and they feel the need to like immediately.
00:10:54
Speaker
It's like Josie and the Pussycats. I don't know if you've seen that movie from the early thou of where it's like buy Pepsi. And it has like all this subliminal programming on it. But that also takes away from you being able to like tap into and into yourself and like, you know, from on a spiritual, like higher vibrational lens and like It's, it is an, I would say it's an element of clutter, right? Like noise is clutter.
00:11:22
Speaker
It is clutter, but ah yeah, when I think it's one of the things that really ails today's generation is this, it's the addiction to it.
Addiction to Devices and Intentional Use
00:11:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:11:33
Speaker
Oh yeah. in many ways, and I've noticed myself too, like if I, I'm like, I don't know, not doing anything, but the first thing I'm going to do is going I'm going to reach for my phone. And you you can me you like notice anywhere you go, like you go the park, you go like, you know, any van you go, first thing you see people are they hunched down on their phones. They're like always like checking their phones. There's always something.
00:11:59
Speaker
Yeah. popping up on their phones. yeah Yeah, notifications popping up. And then, yeah, and then there's work. There's like things about emails and chats and all those things going on. um yeah And it's hard to break the addiction on that, you know? So one of the things that I'm trying to do is just be a little more intentional about how I use social media and my phone.
00:12:27
Speaker
yeah So i I mean, and of course, you do need your phone for other things as well. For sure. And there is the different uses for different things.
00:12:38
Speaker
But I... When I wake up in the morning, I dedicate at first hour just to myself. So yeah I don't go on social media. I don't open my phone.
00:12:50
Speaker
I leave my phone on Do Not Disturb. and I wake up, I go do my stuff, meditate. And then afterwards, after wars if I have you know my breakfast, then I'll go and check my phone.
00:13:03
Speaker
Because I feel like when you already wake up, and you already open your phone and then you get that hit of like dopamine and cortisol, like everything you just kind of gets all hyped up, that already sets your day.
00:13:19
Speaker
to be even more addicted or more like connected or, you know, merged with whatever, all of this information. Right. Yeah. um And that's just one of the things like I've met a lot of people that also leave, you know, their TVs in the background. So there's the constant chatter and noise.
00:13:37
Speaker
And I used to be, I used to be like that too. I would be home and I would have like the TV on because some people say, feel like it's, It's soothing or it keeping that company. like Yeah. Or... Yeah. So they don't feel as lonely, blah, blah, blah.
00:13:52
Speaker
And I don't know. Like, I'm at a point when I just want peace. well Absolutely. You can't put a price on peace. No. But again, like, you do have to be intentional about things like that. And I, you know, not to...
00:14:06
Speaker
ah Because if i if you tell people like, oh, just disconnect from your phone, and like don't touch your phone, I don't know if it that's very realistic because we are so attached to our devices nowadays.
00:14:17
Speaker
So I'd say like the use of it is just to be a little more intentional, like even following things on social media that I feel like bring me a little bit more joy or... make me feel like we live in a you know in a world that is not so bad and chaotic um meaningly oh my god yeah yeah but it is it is i think it's seems like it's everywhere right and you don't know especially on tiktok i feel like that's so wild west like you don't know what kind of frequency you're going to tune in into when you open it it like literally the algorithm kind of like you have your algorithm which like the mlms have been like
00:14:53
Speaker
you know, trained to understand your behavior, what you, your consumer behavior, right? So like, if you're looking up spiritual content, you'll probably get a few videos on spirituality, but then they might vary it.
00:15:05
Speaker
Like the variation in the AI is going to suggest something new, i especially she on like the for you page. But like, I've been suggested some wild and out, like same, yeah.
00:15:15
Speaker
You know, yeah, like I'm like, I would never watch this content or like, I, I'm sorry, like, I love people posting about their pets. But like when they post about their pet that passed away, like that is just hit me too hard. I've I've devastatingly cried over like people losing their pets.
00:15:31
Speaker
And I'm like, I wasn't ready to have an emotional breakdown today. But like, here we are, it's 7am. And that's like the first thing I'm seeing. But that like sets the tone for like the rest of your day. Yes, it does.
00:15:43
Speaker
Yeah. And then you're kind of in that energy and that energy, it's in your space. I mean, the clutter is in our space, right? yeah So how can you function as a human being with all this clutter in your energetic space? Because you just like you carry not only throughout the day, but you carry, you know, into your work, into relationships. And sometimes it's almost like it's unconscious, right?
00:16:09
Speaker
yeah Because you're like, oh, you didn't even notice how you acted or reacted that way. Or maybe ah because you saw something online and that
Influence of Social Media on Thoughts and Misinformation
00:16:21
Speaker
triggered you. And then you think like whoever talks about it, that's also triggering. So it kind of creates like change.
00:16:28
Speaker
a chain reaction or things and people that are really into like watching conspiracy videos or that becomes a thing too. So it kind of like I feel like it's it gets like really messy.
00:16:39
Speaker
because It gets messy, it's convoluted. And then you're like, Oh my god, I don't even know how I actually feel about the situation. Or I don't even know what I actually think about the situation. Because these I mean, honestly, social media is designed to think for you.
00:16:55
Speaker
Well, yeah, I think any Any technology or any you know any of those devices, I mean, also the news, TV, right?
00:17:07
Speaker
Like all of this, so I think there's a lot of manipulation a lot of fear mongering and a lot of those TV shows. It's not reality, you know, like people feel like that that's reality and they watch it.
00:17:22
Speaker
shows and programs and they kind of try to replicate that in their own lives. Totally. try to copy that or emulate that. So it's kind of like not being yourself.
00:17:33
Speaker
Right. You know, and the to me, the more you know yourself, the more you understand yourself. Yeah.
00:17:43
Speaker
And the more you can have discernment of what is your information and what is other people's information. the more you're able to have clarity and more indistinguish and also like clear the clutter.
00:17:58
Speaker
Yeah. We are all this like chaos away from the space.
Balancing Empathy with Mental Health Boundaries
00:18:03
Speaker
I, you know, live with people that all they talk about, it's about the news, like what's going on, what they saw in the meals and talking and that's fine. You know, I think there's a time and space for this stuff.
00:18:15
Speaker
But for me, it was like, you know, I boundaries, like, right. I am okay. Right. not going too deep into all this stuff and just kind of like having all this like reactive behaviors and kind of immersed in it and get like all kind of riled up about all everything that's going on on the news ah because that already like hijacks your nervous system and they're kind of just affects like everything else, your health, your mental health, your emotional health. know. And it's like, it's good to care about it. Like as a human being, like we're living in such a devastating time.
00:18:52
Speaker
yeah Like, and we are very fortunate that we live in parts of the world that are not being bombed. So we don't have to worry about the physical, like lack of safety every day, but we see it happening to other people. And you're like,
00:19:06
Speaker
this is awful. Like this is devastating. And I think it's good to care about it. But I also, i do respect your process of like, when you have your community of people that like, constantly or are talking about it, it can be very negative and it can be very energetically draining. So it's like finding the right balance of like you can care and you can be passionate and like want to know and be informed.
00:19:31
Speaker
But also you do have to recognize when it's starting to impact your mental health, your physical well-being and start setting up those boundaries And knowing like it's okay to have boundaries for these things because at the end of the day, we all have to take care of ourselves.
00:19:53
Speaker
And I know that's such a selfish thing to say, but it's true. We all have to take care ourselves. You know, ourselves. So like you have to fill up your own cup before you can fill up but someone else's cup. Yeah, absolutely. Well, i don't feel it's selfish in a way. I feel that you can be both at the same time.
00:20:12
Speaker
You can be empathetic and caring, but also protect your peace. Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. And then there are things that we have no control over.
00:20:24
Speaker
Right? And so I do, I try to focus more on things that I can control. Yeah. And I mean, what's going on in the world? is It's, I mean, it makes me horrified.
00:20:37
Speaker
There are things that I read and I see it and I'm like, I'm absolutely like devastated. And it's some of the things you cannot even believe that a human can do.
00:20:49
Speaker
Right. But my my job I feel that as someone that facilitates healing for others is to become even more honed in. Totally. In a healing practice. So I can all only heal myself, but also facilitate healing for people so that we can all kind of create a better space for others and then create
Internal Environment's Influence on Reality
00:21:12
Speaker
space. So then all of this clutter, this noise, this chaos, it's, you know, you can still thrive.
00:21:22
Speaker
in places where all of this is helping, but you can also bring, well I'm going to say quote unquote, the light, you know, i just don't, I don't know. It's kind of like a weird them term to kind of say, oh, I'm going to bring in the light, but just become more of like a positive source of energy.
00:21:40
Speaker
energy, right? And not contribute to all of this chaos and everything else that is going on. Because that's that's enough of what whatever is going on. So we just don't want to be matching that.
00:21:52
Speaker
Absolutely. Like being like a beacon of light or beacon of like, you know, not say beacon of hope, but like If you can be be your own light in your own space, then that will translate and resonate with other people who also might feel the same way.
00:22:08
Speaker
But it's like, you know, this whole thing of like, do I match with what's going on in the in the world right now? Or do I find my own information and like radiate at a high frequency or then what's actually happening in the world. And maybe that will translate and transmute some of the negativity and the chaos and the clutter that is going on within people's internal realms. Because like your internal realm,
00:22:36
Speaker
is going to influence and project onto your external realm. And i think it's super important to be able to recognize like what your own habits and patterns and like information is, so that you don't negatively project onto others.
00:22:51
Speaker
And you also like, recognize like when other people are projecting onto you, because that's also clutter. It's just and for other people's information is clutter. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And we carry that. It's almost, it it can be like, it becomes a baggage or a burden too.
00:23:07
Speaker
But i would say like in a practical way, it's just being mindful and intentional about making choices,
Choosing Intentional Activities over Mindless Scrolling
00:23:17
Speaker
I feel like too. yeah So instead of, um like I'm going to speak from my own experience, instead of being so connected and like having this habit of picking up my phone. and I'm going to read more or maybe I'll play some soothing music.
00:23:36
Speaker
who Or maybe I'll dedicate myself to a project or a hobby, right? Something that brings me joy. or maybe I'll go for a walk. Yeah.
00:23:46
Speaker
Or maybe I'll, I don't know if the weather is, you know, it's nice and I feel like I can go outside and I'll go, you know, for a day trip or something, or maybe I'll go out with a friend. It doesn't mean that you have to spend money, but i feel like I can also make choices in my life, whether be immersing myself and doom scrolling for an hour. And sometimes i have to say I'm guilty because I'm like, I'm doom scrolling. I'm like, God, it's been two hours.
00:24:18
Speaker
Right, I could have gone to bed. spent two hours on my more than two hours probably, just like doing scrolling and I'm like, there's like nothing beneficial that comes from this. It's just me like watching all those like random things with from random people from strangers, right? Yeah, yeah. oh yeah Exactly. Talking about things that are not even like might not be true or whatever.
Practical Steps for Physical Decluttering
00:24:43
Speaker
I really like the idea of like doing a digital detox, even if it's just for a couple hours or the day so that you can step away and like that'll just reset your space. So you're, you're literally not connecting to like the online realm that is just basically clutter in my opinion and probably both of our opinions and then being able to like connect to not like online activities and I think, you know, it's like literally this the same. You just got to touch some grass.
00:25:17
Speaker
If you feel so overwhelmed with like whatever is going on whether it's like, you know, your friend circle, drama with family, just touch some grass, like go to the park, just literally put your feet on the earth and like that will resonate with you.
00:25:30
Speaker
And you don't realize like how much like just morning sunlight and touching the the earth with your feet, like will literally like set you up for success for the whole day. Especially if you decide not to touch your phone right away.
00:25:42
Speaker
Yeah, and just taking deep breaths also help too. Oh, yeah. Just close your eyes and take some really deep intentional breaths. I said the word intentional like 50 times already in the spot in this episode, but that's kind of the intention of it. Yeah, ah yeah. That's kind of what it is.
00:25:59
Speaker
ah But also in the physical space as well, I feel like when you start like looking into things and just looking at your closet or whatever, kitchen space, like do I need...
00:26:13
Speaker
10 spatulas? No. Do I need to have 50 plates? No. Do I really need that? It's kind of the Marie Kondo, right? Like, does it bring me joy? I mean, does it is it cluttering my space? so I feel like just gonna, starting with small things like that because it shifts the energy.
00:26:30
Speaker
yeah Once you start like really like removing things and showing yourself, okay, I didn't die in the process of that. Right. It makes you lighter. I'm donating. It goes to a good cause, whatever it is. Or you just give it out to a friend that really needed that.
00:26:47
Speaker
yeah Once you start creating those experiences and you create show yourself yourself, you know, how you're moving this energy and you're shifting in it. It already shifts, you know, this whole attitude about not wanting to carry physically and energetically like things or even like I would say relationships too.
00:27:08
Speaker
yeah oh yeah can be cluttered too absolutely clutter in your life so yeah no like i so i went on a first date like a month ago and the only like nothing came of it but the only you the beautiful thing that came of it is his place with immaculate like not a speck of dirt no clutter and i was like yeah i need to get rid of i literally was like i need to get rid of all my shit it just yeah And that's literally like a few days before, like my, then I saw my friends post about donating and giving like, and I'll, you know, literally everything, every person you meet, whether they' like, especially with dating, like, I think people can be like, just an information that you might need to hear or see, like, oh, their space looks, it's such an inspiration, like, whether nothing came out of that thing. But like,
00:27:56
Speaker
What did come out of it was ah such a beneficial thing for me in the future. and like the now, like I just I got rid of like so much stuff. Now I'm like going through every crevice of my room and getting rid of like old pajama tops and just things that aren't serving
Gradual Decluttering and Self-Reflection
00:28:11
Speaker
me.
00:28:11
Speaker
And I think like so you never know like where you can get the inspiration or like the like decluttering is all is a good thing no matter like what day it is.
00:28:23
Speaker
But you do have to like Trust like you're going to be okay. Yes. And it's one thing at a time. You know yeah you don't have to like go and like declare your whole house and like get rid of all your friends and never speak to your family again.
00:28:39
Speaker
We don't mean it that way. But i would say just start like by looking at things and how is it serving you, what's not and just one step at a time because it it gets overwhelming. Yeah.
00:28:50
Speaker
Both ways, both being cluttered and trying to get rid of everything at the same time. you kind of have to pace yourself. But it all starts, I feel like, with just kind of really pausing.
00:29:02
Speaker
Pausing, take a deep look at yourself. But I'm curious just to find out of whoever is listening to this episode, like... What is, ah how is your clutter?
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you feel you need to get rid of your clutter? Share with us. ah we We love hearing stories about, or even like if you want to ah so suggest places for donation, nonprofits, any things, we're happy to hear.
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Awesome. Thank you so much for listening, everyone. Thank you. See you on your next episode.