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Season 4- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Champions Cup Round 1 Preview)
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It's The Fantasy Corner with a bit of something new. In this weeks FC we take a look at what happened in round 10 action in the Champi-Yanks League for TRM and FRW. We also had a look back at the big hits and unsung heroes of TRM Premiership up to this point in the campaign (we both pick out a particular player from Kingsholm). Last, but not least Champions Cup fantasy has arrived, we make our first adventure into SuperBru so we do a bit our best to give the tips we think will pay off for managers in the long run. Kick those feet up and grab a glass with us.
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Transcript
Introductions and Light-hearted Banter
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back. My name is Ben. Yes, it is. It's a fancy corner. Sometimes we're drunk, sometimes we're not, whatever. Well, I just finished up an 8%er, so I'm pretty good. Yeah, you've got a good buzz on probably. Mine aren't that strong, so I need another one.
Patron Thanks and Initial Rankings
00:00:29
Speaker
So I do want to say thank you to our newest patron, Mark.
00:00:33
Speaker
We appreciate you, Mark, for absolutely grabbing that. We hope you enjoy. Also, I hope, I think it was Alex. I hope everybody kind of enjoyed the rankings that I fictitiously put out that I just kind of pulled out of my ass. But hey, I mean, there was some intelligent thought that went into that. I didn't just fucking say, I like this guy better because he's not a dick. I was like, yeah, okay, this is probably better than not.
Rankings Discussion and Singleton Error
00:01:02
Speaker
you know, um, could I have, so I had creepy as a top three. So that wasn't totally way, uh, that wasn't way off by any means whatsoever. I was what Singleton is the last one, which was wrong because done and, uh, Thacker both ended up lower than him, I think. So, oops. Yeah. But also Singleton was awarded a try that he didn't actually score. So there's that mall tries do that sometimes. Yeah. Oh,
00:01:32
Speaker
I'm starting to lose power. Or it's just my lights. I don't know. But yeah, not good. Anyway, so there was that.
Weekly Game Recap
00:01:48
Speaker
Let's just go into the weekly recap. Why not? Champion's TRM. Duncan stays in front. Although, man, you two were neck and neck. Five points a piece. Five points difference between you and him this week.
00:02:03
Speaker
getting closer right feeling feeling pretty positive for the future with my with my squad though so he's got some good players no doubt um i think uh yeah well we'll see how this goes down the stretch because he's he's set up really well so yeah yeah he is
00:02:23
Speaker
Yeah, so it's so no real change at the top, no change at the top whatsoever. Duncan, Ben, Carrick, Justin, myself still in fifth, Mark jumps up into six and Georgia had weak man. What happened to him? Good Lord in heaven. That's what happens you see, you know, that was a stupid one.
00:02:43
Speaker
Mark gets the patreon over the geek.
Player Performance Analysis
00:02:49
Speaker
I will say, you know, looking at, you know, there's some bad scores, but he was missing a lot on his bench as well. Like there was something to be lacked over there. Like there's been scores. We're not scoring for shit. No. OK, Captain and Alex Mitchell, not great.
00:03:09
Speaker
Yeah. His that's a fair, fair idea to, to, to captain Mitchell. Cause I mean, the fucking, they rolled, but it's just, he didn't get the points. So unfortunate. Um, sorry, buddy. Um, yeah. Finn Smith, not, not, I mean, when you're desperate, man, sometimes you just got to do it, but shit. He's not awesome. Not good. Nope. And, and a lot of the, yeah, a lot of these players, you know, sorry, George, um, but like, uh, uh, Dino lamb.
00:03:37
Speaker
He's got to go. Yeah, now that Leviese is back, that's no longer the guy there. Right. And Vanderbilt, you have the wrong Newcastle lock flank right there. You really want Robinson and not Vanderbilt. I know there's a little bit of a price differential, but
00:03:56
Speaker
Um, I mean, I have also a scoring differential.
Fantasy League Strategy
00:04:00
Speaker
I have both. So, and Vanderbilt had his, his time. I actually signed him for a week two and it worked out really well. So no, he could score points. Um, just didn't not, not as best though. And you know, you look at, unfortunately for him, he's got one, two.
00:04:14
Speaker
three, four guys that were on the, their own teams bench. So they were never going to score highly on his bench. So what little help was coming from that was going to be minimal. Um, right. So yep, that's just how, that's just how it shakes out, man. Sorry, buddy. We have him dropped before, uh, of import fleet. Yeah. Okay. And some weird way actually worked out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. This is back and playing. Right. So there's that, um, in D two, uh,
00:04:43
Speaker
No movement, really no movement. Franco, Cobus, John, Terry are the top four right now. Franco blew everybody away with 5.56 this week. And then Leanu, Bob, Yuri, and Larry are still in the bottom half, literally no movement.
00:05:01
Speaker
I guess technically since I'm in it so I can watch there was movement because I moved but that doesn't count. So nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Also, I got to go back to D1. Sorry, because Anton had the best week of all of us anyway. He did the 55th overall. So he did.
00:05:21
Speaker
You know, don't want to just cause he's, he's down there at the bottom. Doesn't mean, you know, it's not, it's not that far. He needs to be a little more consistent. That's where's, and I'm sure he knows that too.
Game Outcomes and Future Expectations
00:05:33
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, he's, he's a hundred points behind me. So he could.
00:05:39
Speaker
I could have a really bad week and he could have a really good week. And that's, that's the, that's it right there, man. He just starts jumping. Yep. He's only 200 behind, uh, uh, behind character. So it's like, he's, he's 200, he might be eighth, but he's 200 points out of third. Yeah. Maybe that's the more, that's not more important thing to look out there. Right.
00:05:57
Speaker
Yeah. And in FRW, um, the sad week for me, uh, Anton shell act me, um, yeah. Uh, Ben beat Mark, uh, Justin beat George and Duncan beat Carrick. I would have actually beat a couple of these teams. I would have beat George. I was close. I would have been close on Marco and lost my one and I would be Carrick. So maybe there's some proven in there somewhere, but let's face it to say I suck in that. It's a weird format.
00:06:27
Speaker
It is. It's not my favorite. I will say, I will say I'm actually looking forward to this new one that we're going to get into a little later for Champions Cup, but. Champions, so let's let's look at tier out kind of a tier and we rewind as we get to, you know, somewhere between the quarter and the halfway poll here because we're on week 10. So not quite the quarter poll or the third poll, but we're not quite halfway either. So we'll be on one.
00:06:58
Speaker
Overall point scores. I mean, no shock. It's one of the fly halves out there. Um, it's Ford, isn't it? Um, well, the overall point score. Yeah. Hold on a second. Hold on one second. Um, no Willis's really. Wow. Do I have to make sure that, yeah, make sure I have all my filters. I think I'm completely unfiltered. Yeah. George Ford is, is not, he's on the top 10. I thought that happened.
00:07:27
Speaker
I got me the top fly half. Wow. Yeah. So Tom, we're not going to talk about it. We're not going to talk about the top fly half, but we won't. So yeah. And, you know, credit to anybody that's got.
00:07:42
Speaker
more than a few of these high-end guys, Willis, Creeby, also Collins Mitchell for pizza care. Rogers and Rogers is kind of one of those ones that has snuck up very quickly. It's fake. Don't buy it. No, I'm serious. It's, it's fake. Cause he's cord. Um, he scores average like in the twenties every week, but he plays every week. So he's just one of those guys who he'll, he'll get you like, he's got that, um,
00:08:12
Speaker
Yeah, he's got the most
Consistency in Fantasy Players
00:08:14
Speaker
points, but he's broken 30. Is that just the once? Just once this season. No, I agree. He's much like Jack Walker.
00:08:27
Speaker
who doesn't score otherworldly, but it's very consistent. So when you need a player, you play him because he'll get you 20. He's not going to kill you a week. You know, you just can't captain them. That's for sure. Exactly. So that's the thing. Like you can use him. But I mean, for two for two hundred and nineteen K. What's it, Robertson? Or who was it? Robson from Newcastle. I can talk.
00:08:54
Speaker
He's scoring like 10 points a game higher. It's just that he doesn't play as often. No, he missed some time. But fuck, you're going to want it. Like I would, you know, that's why it's like, yeah, Rodgers is going to have points for you. But, you know, you're not going to play him at eight because you're going to have, you know, a Dom or a Simmons or a Willis or an Earl. Like, yeah, you look at the per per per start scores. He's not really, he's not up there. Right.
00:09:21
Speaker
You can look at the guys that are producing at a better clip than average. I look at a couple guys that are under 200 to name a few. One of them is Tommy Freeman.
00:09:41
Speaker
He's dynamite. I need to figure out a way to get him on my team. Yeah. He, I mean, he started a little bit under one fifties up to one 60 years or so now. Um, yeah, pretty good pick there. And then if Toby Fricker actually like becomes a thing, that could be fun, but until that happens, until that actually happens at a more consistent rate, then I'm going to hold off on that. Um,
00:10:08
Speaker
Radwin started fairly low.
Center Performance in Fantasy Leagues
00:10:09
Speaker
He's just been steadily climbing this whole season. So if you didn't buy anyone low, you're fucked. Yeah, but I have had him since day one. I'm not getting rid of him. Right. That's that. No joke. So there's some good stuff out there that's obviously come out of the low end, guys.
00:10:29
Speaker
Even like Janssen van Rensburg, who everybody bought really low because he was so cheap, and people were trying to squeeze that 28th player in there without killing their budget. And you know, he was under 100 to start. He was 98 to start. I had had him, I'd like he was one of those I can't get rid of him. But now I buy what I want. Actually, he's not not terrible in terms of production. So
00:10:49
Speaker
Right. I mean, he's been on, he's been a solid, just put him on your bench. You'll get like nine to 10 points from him. And, and the best thing is he's flat eligible. So like my, my right now, I only have Mitchell really is my only starting scrum half. I have, I have white cause he fucking rakes when he plays. Um, but if he's not in the lineup, I'll just put.
00:11:10
Speaker
Uh, Ben hard in there and, um, yeah, no, no worries. Nine, 10 points done. I'll take that from my backup scrum half. Yeah, totally, totally, totally. Um, yeah. So it's, it's fun things like that, that, that have obviously come out of the season so far. You know, we, like I said, we, you have the Tommy Freeman's of the universe and, um,
00:11:33
Speaker
Kyle Rowe, another one that's been a fantasy, you know, just right blockbuster since Andrew Davidson too. Yeah, not too bad for God. Oh, again, another guy that was under 100, I believe.
Player Value and Team Strategy
00:11:45
Speaker
So right. He was started at at 91, I guess. Did I?
00:11:50
Speaker
Well, did I have them then? I thought I did. I guess that's not every 92. I guess that must have been after he's already started. But yeah, like the last two matches he started, 21 and 20 points. Excellent bench option for cheap. Not too terrible. It frees you up to, that has, things like that have freed me up to add the high end. That's why I can have a Ellis Gensch, Creevy, Itoji,
00:12:19
Speaker
Yeah, Dom Brandt, you know, McGinty and Marcus Smith, like having those kinds of guys are what you really need to kind of glue that gets everything else together unless you invest. Like I've added over like 500k to my team so far this season, just because you can invest in the guys who just shoot up and then you can buy the guys who just do well. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
00:12:46
Speaker
For you and your squad in particular, who has been like the fantasy, you know, hero for you? Like, and maybe not the one that scores the most, but somebody that's got some versatility, somebody that scores consistently and fairly well at times. And, but, you know, maybe isn't a name that people remember or know. Freddie Clark has been... Hell yeah. I was thinking that too. And because he's eligible at Lock Flank 8,
00:13:14
Speaker
And so I got, but he plays lock and that helps with the points cause he's a runner and he tackles. So like, he'll get you 10 to 20 meters, which is five to 10 points huge. But I'll also get like 15 to 20 or more tackles. And that's the kind of balance you really want from, from a lock.
00:13:35
Speaker
And he'll go off sometimes. So, yep. He's been a key player like that. He's one of the, you know, Harry Wells was doing the job, but now he's kind of, I think what I'm going to end up doing is swapping him out for Robinson and I'm good. Decent trade there. Decent trade there. Yeah. I mean, I look at his scores. The one score that I was like, oops, I wish I hadn't played him was the Newcastle score.
00:14:02
Speaker
You know, didn't see that one coming honestly. So no, other than that, it's he's been good. You know, we had.
00:14:08
Speaker
He had 19 off the bench or 24 off the bench on, um, in the opening weekend. And then he's, he came off the bench the week before that as what a week after that as well. And then he started ever since four, four, four, four, four, four, six, four. So yeah, he's, he's in that Gloucester lineup for this foreseeable future. Yeah. Especially with their injuries and whatnot.
Managing Fantasy Teams
00:14:30
Speaker
He's been massive for that. But in the backs, it's been Esther Hazen.
00:14:35
Speaker
That was a huge, yeah, it's a big one centers centers. Okay. The thing about the forwards is you can kind of get a good feel for, okay. They always make their tackles. Fuck. That's awesome. They're going to get like 20 tackles in the tackle bonus. And that's, that's awesome. With the backs, it's so hit and miss. There's guys that will score 40 point, like look at max mail-ins, right? 40 points, 40 point 10. Yeah, it happens, but Esther Hazen has been just.
00:15:02
Speaker
you know, the if you can get 20 points from your center, awesome. So there may be some that you know, go off for like 50 points a match here or there, but then suck the rest of the time. And, you know, maybe it looks better on paper, where you know, on first look, but Esther Hazen has been massive in the centers. Agreed. Yeah, there's in the backs, you have to pay for that consistency more often than not. You know, you're
00:15:26
Speaker
You can get away with a cheap forward here, there, and they'll still produce quite well.
00:15:33
Speaker
It's very rare that you find, you know, that's why Tommy Freeman is a huge one for me right now because he's been very good for the majority of the time. He's been right in the starting lineups and he's cheap. So, you know, if you hint to the hint, wink, wink, go and put Tommy Freeman in your team, you know, stuff like that. And he's got a little versatility too as well. So that always helps. But yeah, you have to pay for the back. So, you know,
00:15:57
Speaker
Unfortunately, you have to pay for the Ford's you have to pay for the market Smith's. You have to pay for the yesterday's and you have to pay for the Curtis runners and Alex was off keys in the center's case.
00:16:10
Speaker
you know, for the for the outside guys, you have to pay for him. Radwin wasn't a lot, but now he is. So same with Tyrone Green, and Max Malins, you know, you have to pay for those guys because one because of the potential and two because they more often than not do score. And that's
00:16:29
Speaker
that's what you need and unfortunately it's just not as like you said it's not as easily predictable in the backs so you just got to pay for it and that's just how it is so yes but spend your cash on the fast guys then the forwards can kind of be in and out right right it's like don't don't really bat an eye if you got to drop a forward here or there because
Evaluating Player Potential
00:16:50
Speaker
Yeah. Anyone who's starting could go off, but there's some, there are more like, again, yeah, you pay for the consistency, but it's, it's much more readily available in the forwards and the backs. It's fuck. It's hard to find. Right. Yeah. Like for me, I'm, I like him, but I think I'm gonna end up dropping them because I have enough to cover for now. Jack Cunningham.
00:17:08
Speaker
I really like, I think it's time to ditch them. Not going to get me a whole lot back, but it's not a position I need to occupy. It's cash I can use to maybe do two drops for one big money back. Right. And it's a Quinn's position, which is huge. Which could get me somebody on that team, which would be nice.
00:17:32
Speaker
Right. So looking at that. So that's, that's where that's at. Um, I got a couple other kid candidates that could drop as well, but he's on the, he's on the shortlist right now. Right. And it's time to start looking at the, oh, if we're going to talk about centers though, and, and consistency, right? Radra it's it's time to start leaning towards him. Cause I probably, by the time we, we, the prem comes back, um,
00:17:59
Speaker
he's going to be ready. I mean, fully ready to go. So I mean, they got a week off now. Right. So we got a little bit more time to heal up and get ready. And he looked pretty okay last week. Um, so I would, if you, if you want to get at red Radra, um, have a plan going into this week, like, I mean, yeah, it might get food, but you know, it's better to have a plan and,
00:18:26
Speaker
and then be able to enact it then to be scrambling on Friday, like what the fuck do I do? How do I get Rad Radra on my team? Even if it's a two to three week plan, no plan to get him on your team. You're not gonna get an argument out of me, man. No argument out of me whatsoever.
Introduction to New Fantasy Format
00:18:48
Speaker
So let's jump over to our newest format, Super Brew, which is not a new thing, it's new for Ben and myself.
00:18:57
Speaker
So here's the thing, and because it's new to Ben and I, I was like, you know what, I think I can at least give us an idea of what to expect. I did some comparisons. I took some of the stats and I took the scoring and I tried my best to add it up. I'm not a computer, so I probably fucked it up here and there. Excuse me.
00:19:14
Speaker
So I took Ella, so I took a couple of guys, Gens, Marcus, and Malins as kind of examples. Malins obviously isn't in this, but his score is helpful in this case to know it. So the Gens game against Gloucester, which was one of his better games, he scored 58 in TRM. So that game only amounted to six in FRW. It would amount to about 14 in Superbrew. So that's a little better. I like that number a little bit better.
00:19:42
Speaker
Yeah. You know, and the only downside for him is he doesn't kick, obviously, he's a fucking prop. So and that's that's an advantage. I mean, that seems like a pretty good like looking at the scoring. That seems like a pretty good prop score. Pretty good prop score. Yep. I think it is, too.
00:20:01
Speaker
So then I did a Marcus Smith's game against Bath. He was on fire that day. FRW scored 12, TRM scored 33. So and then and Subaru amount to about 19.
00:20:14
Speaker
And that's a that's a decent day. So that that almost reminds me of F.R.D. scoring in some ways, you know, it does. Yeah.
Comparison of Fantasy Features
00:20:20
Speaker
You know, if you get 20, you find a fucking dominant day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm thinking like 11, 10, 11, it's a pretty good day in the score. And then so mail-ins, I did the last game where he scored four times. Yeah. F.R.W. you got 25 yet 67 in that day for Subaru, you ended up with about 55 and a half.
00:20:43
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a lot closer to TRM. The TRM slash FRD scoring, which two scoring formats were obviously built very used to. So I think that's a good thing. So like Ben and I were talking earlier, pre-podcast, I think we'll be able to do something, but it's going to be fairly generic. It won't be as specific as we get into TRM because Ben's mentioned it before. Sample size is way too fucking small.
00:21:11
Speaker
and variability is way too high. There's too many variables. They don't, the teams don't play each other. It's not like everything is, evens out in the end, it doesn't. So yeah, too many variables, too low a sample size. There's not much analysis to be done. And in this competition too, it's the guys are, the defense
00:21:31
Speaker
only exists with like when you're playing Exeter or a team like that or Glasgow. Outside of that, it's, you know, just they're going to attack. They're going to run. You know, you know what they're going to score. Right. Right. So this will be interesting for us.
Composing Fantasy Teams
00:21:50
Speaker
Have you made any sort of selections yet? I've made one selection. And who was that? Hold on. Let me see if I can find.
00:22:00
Speaker
It is, was it James low? Pretty sure it's James low. Yeah. I have James low. I'm going to, I'm going to have Gens. Yeah. Like he's one of the higher picked outside backs right now because he eat this competition up. Yeah. It's him.
00:22:19
Speaker
It's Hogg, Zebo, Lowe, Penno, and Keenan. They're some of the top ones. I have Penno and Keenan myself. I also grabbed two giant Islanders and Ndolo and Lamb.
00:22:34
Speaker
Yeah. You just kind of have to worry that he's not, he's not an 80 minute player. So his, his meters are going to be limited in the end compared to other players. That's my only, he's a smart, you do get credit for tackles broken. So that's true. He does that. And he's, he's something he's somebody to get that. So, and I'm trying to get some versatility because also you only get three, I think of each club. So yeah. Got to worry about that little one. Um,
00:22:58
Speaker
I'm thinking, yeah, I think I'm, my fly house are into Mac and Smith. So, not mad about that. No, you're doing okay. No, not mad about that. I think my fly house will look fairly similar to that. Yeah. Oh, guess who we get to, who we get to pick again in the back row. One of our old TRM favorites.
00:23:23
Speaker
Oh, shit. Is he there? Mercer? Yep. I have him. I have him. I was like, yeah, he's like Mercer again. Yeah. Eddie, you should never let him walk, you fucking idiot. Right. And we and Reinach is available for.
00:23:43
Speaker
Is he going to start though? I don't know. That's my only problem with that. I think Mercer's been starting. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that Rhinac has, which is baffling. Right. Holy shit. You have a team that you can't, that you don't have to start with. That's right.
00:24:00
Speaker
What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, let's use a little out there as it were. I did pick as a prop. Yeah, he'll be on my team. Yeah, I just haven't made this election yet. I'm more like so I'm thinking more team, team based and long term strategy to write. Well, and whether whether.
00:24:20
Speaker
transfers. I completely forgot that. So it's six per round. Okay. That's not too bad. And there's, so that's the home thinking about it. I'm like, there's three per team. So there's some teams that will struggle, but they'll do well. And you start, you want to start getting rid of them in round three, which you can do. So if you have like three from, you know, some sort of like, you know, a bubble type team, like even Bristol, like you pick up, you know, you wouldn't do it this week. So yeah, maybe they're bad. Okay. Bad example. Bad example.
00:24:48
Speaker
But like, you know, a sale who, you know, they're good, they're going to be out fairly soon, even after, but they should qualify because they play Osprey's in Claremont. Like, yeah, have AJ and Quirky potentially, you know, or some of the Saffas because they're frickin' beasts, too. Yeah, DDA, DDP, excuse me. DDP, and yeah. Yeah, I do have DDA. That's why I was thinking that.
00:25:12
Speaker
Yeah, but then you're going to start moving away from them in rounds three or four. So, because you'll have the six transfers, you got three per club. Think about that as you build, because yeah, it's easy to, you're going to want a Leinster, you're going to want three from Leinster, you're going to want three from Toulouse, you're going to want three from wins.
00:25:29
Speaker
All these three from Lester, um, they'll be running. Um, you just got to make sure you pick wisely within those. Yeah. Cause you, you get points for a win as well. Right.
Excitement for New Fantasy Format
00:25:40
Speaker
And also there's something to be said about picking a team that can scrumage because forwards get credit for scrums and, and line outs one. So you got to also factor that in. So, you know, if you're, if you're picking team, if you're looking at teams that are struggling with the lineup and there's going to be a few of them out there.
00:25:58
Speaker
you don't want them in your, you know, they're not going to be helpful. You know, if they go shit hooker, you know, having a player forward in that line of play can be good. You know, just that's just plain simple. So you got to find that as well. So very strategically need to pick that like I have
00:26:17
Speaker
I have some money is one of my props. And I'm actually worried about that now. So thinking about that with the success of their, their Scrum and their line out and concerning that they've been getting shit talked and top 14. I'm kind of worried about that pick right now. So we'll see. Maybe I'll straight him out for my, uh, and pick, you know, uh, pick like Moala in the, in the middle there for, for them instead and find a better forward. That's not going to lose so much of the set piece. Right.
00:26:44
Speaker
So yeah, it'll be very interesting. I'm looking forward to this format, no doubt. I will say I'm far more excited about this format than I was about FRW. Also it could be because the sting of not having FRT is much more long gone since that.
00:27:03
Speaker
But it'll be yeah, it's going to be very interesting. I'm looking forward to it. There is a podcast league if you're looking for it. We do have one out there. So grab that. Jump into Georgia's league as well if you haven't done that already. I have not. I need to get on those things.
Top Fantasy Picks Analysis
00:27:20
Speaker
I'm into Georgia's league.
00:27:25
Speaker
Yeah, so it's so I'll just run through a little bit of information here there. Top five selected outside backs right now. I think I said already Hogg, Zebo, Lowe, Pinot, and Keenan in the middle.
00:27:39
Speaker
Ringrose, DDA, Bundy, Aki, Vacantawa, Slade. Although Slade, Henshaw, and Davies all are at 4% picked. So tie there. Flyhaps, No Shock, Intermack, and Smith at the top two, followed by Sexton, Carberry, and Finn.
00:27:59
Speaker
That'd be interesting. Yeah. Finn is a decent, pretty decent option there. Yeah. I mean, he, they should go far. So right at the very least, you know, you can probably write him for a little bit assuming he stays healthy and suspension free dummy screwed me over last year.
00:28:14
Speaker
Nines, no shock. DuPont. This is far and away number one, 20% picked. Cooney, Murray, Reinach, and Pfaff, which she's not going to be available till January. And I can't imagine he's going to do a whole lot better in this format that he doesn't TRM. So if you're listening to this and you're into this stuff, don't pick Pfaff for a lot of reasons. For a lot of reasons. You have the wrong sale, ScrumF. You want Quirky. Yeah, you want Quirky. He's going to crush it.
00:28:44
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. For the back row, Sam Simmons is, again, far away top pick. Naveedee is second. Aldrich, Matt Fagerson, and then Jasper Beese, Justin Tipprick, and Dwayne Vermeelan are tied at 6% as far as those picks go. So not bad ones either. Oh, there's Don Bretton. He's a zero. Oh, no, there it is. Where is he at?
00:29:11
Speaker
5%. Okay, that's not bad. I have. So he's not that low. Henderson, Skelton, Richie Gray, Lewd, Laws, Tiberna are your highest picked locks. Lewd and Laws, I got to disagree. I think the only thinking with Laws is he's been playing in the back row. Yeah.
00:29:33
Speaker
True, but he doesn't get the meters carried. So it's not just tackles. I don't know that his points are going to... Although, no, the turnovers are a thing, aren't they? I can't recall. I don't know if they have turnovers. You lose points on penalties. I know that. Don't pick anybody that does that. I mean, I'm looking at Henderson and Skelton there.
00:29:59
Speaker
at the top two and we like, yeah, those, those are appropriate. Yeah. Appropriate there.
Player Performance Impact
00:30:03
Speaker
Yeah. Um, 2% have picked Sebastian Vamahina and that is a card waiting to happen. So I don't know why they're doing that. So that's a no. Mike Williams on your team. Right. Um, hooker, Cowan Dickey taught me like far and away. Number one hooker picked, which actually is slightly surprising, but okay.
00:30:24
Speaker
Um, yeah, Sean, Sean Evans from Scarlett's Scarlett are going to go very far. So I'd give it a yes. Montoya Kelleher and Camilla Shaw are the next ones in line there. Like Shaw. So, um, props, Kyle Sinclair bad news. He's not playing this. Yeah. I don't understand that. But okay. Yeah. Tom Botha, uh, Gens, uh,
00:30:49
Speaker
Dylan Lewis and for long are your highest picked props, which for long doesn't surprise me in any way, shape or form. No, I think it's going to be on my team. Yeah. Perfectly honest. Yeah. And that might be where I go find a new prop. That might be my new prop that I picked with the whole rethink on Slomani type of thing. Yeah. Although it's, that's the question is, you know, Lenster are going to do well, but do you, do you use one of your three?
00:31:16
Speaker
at Leinster. I think it depends on how important is it for you to score, use the example of the score that I picked up from guys before, 14 for your props as opposed to 20 plus for your backs.
Fantasy Draft Strategies
00:31:38
Speaker
right? You know, it's a trade off. It is. Can you find, can you find many guys that are going to score 14 in a game at prop? Not so much. Maybe not so much. Can you find a lot of guys that are going to score 20 odd, you know, in the centers or in the outside backs? Yeah, I could find like, you know, 30 guys here who could probably score that in a weekend. So
00:31:58
Speaker
Right. So I think I think that is right off. Yeah. I mean, we're we're looking at what 24 teams like they each have a back one back who can rock up. So yeah, probably grease lightning here and at least more and maybe more than that. So yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. And, you know, you have you have unique guys in here as well that are quite good. And I suspect some of this is also from
00:32:27
Speaker
leaning on to what the the URC scoring as well because that is URC's fancy game is through Superbrew as well. So there's that. So I suspect that's what Dylan Lewis is in there because he's probably scoring pretty well for Cardiff and that. So maybe that's what people are thinking. It's good to know. Yeah, it kind of helps. Yeah. Yeah. But going up against Toulouse and Quins again, I'm not
00:32:52
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not convinced it's going to go. You're not getting the two for the win, I can tell you that. Although that's also a good spot for you, right? But that's a good spot again for that. You have you have six transfers per per round. So, you know, you pick up a Dylan Lewis and then for the, you know, he could still score pretty well against the twins for two, you know, to lose once and then the twins for two matches. And then you drop them going back to to lose and
00:33:20
Speaker
Yeah. Pick up someone who's going to be playing in the next rounds. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a bad strategy there. Yeah. And there's only so many. They're more slightly more prevalent, but there's still only a few few forward props in particular that are just so special, quite like Sinclair or Genge or type for a long, you know, that are going to do damage in the loose on top of what they do at the set piece. So.
00:33:47
Speaker
Yeah, in a way it is worth sacrificing one of your spots in, you know, obviously Sinclair's not playing this weekend so downside there, oopsie. Yeah. But yeah, and you look at that and then like even in the locks, you know,
00:34:02
Speaker
Will skeleton, how many. Here's the thing, Laura shell have probably have a lot to pick but man, he is a special human so yes, I think he's going to score, you know, and that's just the end. That's just one for their line out so you get the line out points.
00:34:21
Speaker
Certainly, yeah, I would probably be on my team too. Right. So yeah, this is also my and hookers think that very similar to props. There's a few out there that are going to score very, very well. And there's a bunch that are just going to be. So you got to almost just bite the bullet and say, all right, I will find another back or another back row guy that can play.
00:34:45
Speaker
you know, as well as or near as well as the other guys, because these guys are going to be a huge difference between the top four, probably, and then the rest of the hookers are just going to be is going to be huge gap. So
00:34:58
Speaker
there is that as well. Those are the positions you got to think about there. And then as we found with TRM centers are also a thing that you're just like, it's so hard to find good scoring centers in TRM. So as we were talking about with like, the likes of Esther Hazen and Rona and Lozowski and those guys, you know, it's worth it. It's worth it. It's worth it. Because, you know, as Ben just said,
00:35:24
Speaker
The grease lightning backs are all out there. There's plenty of them. You look at the outside back list of guys that are picked. It's any one of those guys, you'd go, yes, please. Yes. There's a lot of those guys, like all the way down to 2% pick Josh Adams. Freddie Stewart is 2% picked. Yeah.
00:35:48
Speaker
Yeah, come on. Santi Cordero, Jordan Lammer, you know, Skosan, Ima. Skosan's out there, yeah. You know, Keith Earls, who's if he starts, he's going to play pretty well, although he's been playing 13. So we'll see how that goes. Yeah, and then all the way up to like, you know, Ben Lam, Katara Matsushima, you know, yeah, there's a lot out there to pick for that. So
00:36:12
Speaker
might be worth the trade-off in those positions that are really hard to score. And yeah. Like Kate Murley isn't even, he's not, he's at 0% and he could fucking rock up, so. Yeah, but that'd be one, that's a quin spot. So do you, it's a matter of, do you want to use that? Yeah, right. As well, that's the, also the balance, like, and we got three of them. It looks like they're going green in Lina and probably a lot of them are going to go with, yeah, Marcus Smith, so.
00:36:40
Speaker
And Danny care is a potential option, although he's not, and he's like 10th or so. Yeah. Yeah. He's one of the, there's only one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, there's 11 scar maps that have been picked so far. And one of them is fast. So people are going to figure out that's not a good pick. Right. Right. And I just picked up quirk. So like DuPont and quirk. Yeah.
00:37:11
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah, of those and yeah, that's another one. There's, there's another one. I do upon a special, no doubt, there's going to be some special players here, but you could probably do your backup as somebody, you know, like, like a quirk on a sale, you know, somebody, somebody from, from one of those teams, you know, there's,
00:37:34
Speaker
a few positions like I, I used, I liked Kaitlyn blade. I don't know if he's going to be good in this format, but I liked him in FRD once upon a yesterday year. So that could be another one that, you know, who the fuck's picking Connick guys, you know? Yeah. So that's another one there. Like you just, you got to find those guys that will be productive as backups, you know, into Mac, Marcus Smith. Love to see that interchange.
00:37:58
Speaker
But always good. Always good to have options at the same time. Like if, you know, yeah, I'm leaning on DuPont this whole time. Yeah. Find a, find a backup. That's going to play on a team that maybe you're not going to be worried about picking too often from. Yeah, exactly. Like, I mean, that's why it's like the Saint sale are going to play Osprey's in Claremont. So Quirk should be pretty okay. Yeah. That shouldn't, that should work out all right for two rounds at the very least. So it's, it is a balance and it's a balance of.
00:38:27
Speaker
making sure that you got the special players in the special, in the good spots. And then understanding that the, you know, the positions that are a dime a dozen, those are the ones you can pick up the nobodies and still be all right. Right. So always fun. This is going to be a good time. It will be very rugby too. Yeah. As I'd expect. All right. Let's do the pick them thing. Let me get the hell out of here.
Game Predictions and Analysis
00:38:54
Speaker
All right. Friday night, North Hampton and Rossing.
00:38:58
Speaker
One second, I got to get to the. There you go. OK, cool. All right. That's Saints. I. I'm going to go Saints, I think, being at home and their their momentum behind them that they have.
00:39:20
Speaker
I think it's going to suit them well. I think they're, they're, they've been looking forward to this challenge and preparing for it. So, and they're at home. Well, ongoing rousing. So, all right. Don't tell Finn this is these, these rounds are where things are going to go. Topsy, Terry. Where have we seen that before? Once or twice, uh, Cardiff and to lose, to lose. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Bordeaux and Lester. Interesting one.
00:39:53
Speaker
I tell him, how are Bordeaux doing? Because Lester are doing so well. They're just rocking. So let me see where they are. Well, they're top in the top 14. So number one, number one versus number one at Bordeaux.
00:40:11
Speaker
I'm going to give it to the home team. Yeah, same. I've gone with Bordeaux. Yeah. Yeah. Leinster and Bath at the RDS. Leinster. Leinster. I shudder to see what Bath is going to put out there. Same. Ulster and Claremont. This should be interesting. I'm going to go. I'll pick first. I'm going with Ulster. Yeah, me too. Because, as you said, Claremont are not in a good way in the top four teams. Sometimes Europe can be a catapult type of thing where they're like,
00:40:40
Speaker
They get some momentum from it. I'm not convinced of that yet. So this is one of those situations where it's like, I'm going to pick against you until you change my mind. Exeter Montpellier at Sandy Park. Exeter. Exeter area. Right. And again, Montpellier don't always show up in this top end of this. So poop sprays and sale in Wales. But still, I think it's the sharks. Yeah, I think it's the sharks. Yeah. Conak and Stade Francais.
00:41:10
Speaker
intriguing in ways where it's a lot of unknown, unless you're a Connick or a Stade Francais fan. That's about it. Yeah. I mean, neither of these teams are poised to succeed in this matchup. So I do think Stade Francais will have it a little bit more together though.
00:41:29
Speaker
I'm going to go with the team that's got my favorite player and that's not a lot my pay. And he's on stop front say, so I'm going to go with that. La Rochelle and Glasgow in France, La Rochelle, wasps and Munster. Honestly, for me, it doesn't matter what team wasps out there. I think Munster are going to show up and it's going to be the old Munster tank with a little bit of flair from Joey Carberry that gets this job done. I agree. I think wasps are, um,
00:41:59
Speaker
I mean, we saw they can be had Worcester show that and if they're not ready for Worcester, I don't think they're mentally ready for a monster.
00:42:06
Speaker
No, no, no, no. Cass and Quinn's last match of the weekend. I'm going to go with the defending championships. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Okay. I think this is, so this is what I'm excited about. It looked, I think that the, uh, the premiership, I mean, I feel like this is set every year and I feel like the follow-up to that is out every year. This year feels different, but this year feels different. Like,
00:42:31
Speaker
the the premise playing good it's not just that they have good teams because they you know it really in the past we've talked about it it's been Exeter and Saracens as the only like really good teams and so then you wonder why they don't show up in the um in the Champions Cup and that's why but Harlequins are a good team Lester are a good team you know sale
00:42:55
Speaker
with AJ can be a good team with the competition, though they should at least get through. Lester are back in this column. This is a good thing. The prem cannot be overlooked this year, even without Saracens. Even without Saracens. Wait till next year. Let's do it.
00:43:17
Speaker
All right, so that is it. It was a unique, fancy corner, but next year, next year, next week, I already even had the 8% beer. That's the side pack. Next week, we'll be a little bit more predicting with players and stuff, because we'll at least have an idea what the hell this thing looks like. Yeah. You know, we'll try and provide more help than we could right now. Are we going to do a start-sit on Friday?
00:43:48
Speaker
I don't think so. I think we can do a variation of ST Fry, but I'm not sure we're going to be seeing a whole lot of predictions in terms of that. I think we can certainly do an ST Fry and we can do our best to figure it out. We'll do a little bit of homework between now and then as well, so that'll probably help as well.
00:44:11
Speaker
Okay, until Friday if we talk to you out there and if not next week, we appreciate you for stopping in, hanging out with us and just being awesome because yeah, we love you guys and you guys make this way easier and better than I, believe it or not. So we appreciate it. We'll catch you guys next week. Have a good one. Later. Enjoy the rugby. Cheers.