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HORROR HOOKUP: "1BR"
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HORROR HOOKUP: "1BR" 1BR is the debut feature film from writer/director David Marmor, and the boys welcomed him, producer Alok Mishra of Malevolent Films, and actor Naomi Grossman to the show to discuss this CHILLING film!
From filmmaking to horror to the queer community to Naomi's turn as Pepper in AMERICAN HORROR STORY, this conversation has a little bit of everything our listeners love. Listen in today!
ABOUT 1BR: After leaving behind a painful past to follow her dreams, Sarah scores the perfect Hollywood apartment. But something is not right. Unable to sleep, tormented by strange noises and threatening notes, her new life quickly starts to unravel. By the time she learns the horrifying truth, it's too late. Caught in a waking nightmare, Sarah must find the strength to hold onto her crumbling sanity...or be trapped forever in an existential hell.
WHERE TO WATCH 1BR -DVD and Blu Ray available everywhere -Stream on Google Play, Amazon Prime Video, and Apple TV
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Transcript
Introduction: Fear, Eviction, and New Beginnings
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Can't be mad. Can't be mad. Can't be mad. Can't be mad. Be afraid. Be very afraid. We have some bad hombres here and we're gonna get them out. Bing bing bong bong bing bing bing. I love China.
00:00:28
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I just moved here. I don't really know anyone. What brought you to LA? Trying to start a new life. You got it. We're neighbors. Hey listen, we're having a barbecue. You should come. Welcome. We like to make this place feel like a real neighborhood. And we all kind of take care of each other
Meet the Creators of 1BR
00:00:45
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here. Hey folks, and welcome to yet another Horror Hookup with Friday the 13th Horror Podcast. I'm Matty. And I'm Andrew.
00:00:52
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And we are here today with some of the creative team from the new horror film 1BR, which is like one bedroom, right? A lot of us live in those. Andrew, I believe you have a synopsis of the film. Take it away. Yes, after leaving behind a painful past to follow her dreams, Sarah scores the perfect Hollywood apartment. But something is not right. Unable to sleep, tormented by strange noises and threatening notes, her new life quickly starts to unravel.
00:01:21
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By the time she learns the horrifying truth, it's too late. Caught in a waking nightmare, Sarah must find the strength to hold onto her crumbling sanity or forever be trapped in an existential hell.
1BR and Pandemic Parallels
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And by existential hell, the film does not mean quarantine, trust me.
00:01:39
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It's a chilling film, and we honestly think that all of you will love it too. And listeners, we do promise we'll try to keep this interview as spoiler-free as possible. And with that, we are pleased to welcome Alok Mishra, the producer, David Marmer, the writer and director, and Naomi Grossman, who plays Janice in the film. But you probably have also heard of her before as Pepper from American Horror Story. 1BR family, welcome to Friday the 13th. Hi. How's it going? Thank you. Thanks. Thank you guys for having us.
00:02:08
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Of course. Thank you all. Thank you all for joining us. And you know, when I watched 1BR last week, I was watching it from my own 1BR here in Chicago. And during the isolation of this pandemic, we find ourselves in. It was a little, I don't know, maybe more terrifying for me. So Dave, this is a question for you as the writer and director. Can you tell us a bit about what it was like to create this story before the pandemic?
00:02:38
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And I'm wondering now how the lens of the pandemic might make the story even more prescient, more terrifying?
00:02:47
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Well, so when I created it, it was kind of a personal story really. The original seed of it came out of my experiences when I moved to LA and I was sort of similar to Sarah in that I was not a confident person. I felt very lost and isolated and I was living in an apartment kind of like the one in the movie.
00:03:10
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sort of collecting up the weird and surreal experiences that were happening to me there. So that was really the beginning of it. So it began as just kind of a riff or like kind of a nightmare version of how I felt as a young person arriving in LA.
Metaphors and Themes in 1BR
00:03:29
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And that's kind of what it was. I felt like as the story developed in my head and as we moved into production,
00:03:37
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You know, as often happens when I'm rewriting something, I'm learning about it and it acquired some more sort of metaphorical overtones as it went. But nothing, you know, obviously none of us could have predicted that it was going to come out right at this exact moment in time. And yeah, it's a little bit hard, you know, because I've
00:04:01
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been living with it for so many years and have seen it so many times, that it's a little bit hard for me to kind of wrap my head around what it would be like to see it for the first time in the current cultural context. So I don't particularly have a good answer to that. What I can say, though, is that when all this started happening as our release was coming, it did strike me that, you know,
00:04:28
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What we have essentially is a movie about A, being isolated and alone, and B, the kind of tension between the individual and the community around them, which are both particularly relevant right now, I guess. Yeah, big time.
00:04:47
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Yeah, gosh.
Naomi Grossman's Acting Journey
00:04:49
Speaker
So Naomi, your portrayal of Janice in the movie 1BR was particularly chilling just because kind of like all the characters or the other actors in the movie, you were so on board and incredibly dedicated to this like system that was put in place.
00:05:08
Speaker
Tell us a bit about your preparation for this role. I mean, a lot of our listeners know U.S. Pepper from American Horror Story, but it was so much fun to see you in a different kind of role. So can you talk to us a little bit about that? Well, yeah, I mean, it was fun to use my own face. It's exciting.
00:05:30
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You know, it wasn't out of the ordinary preparations. I mean, it wasn't like I was taking on, like, you know...
00:05:45
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For example, I mean it was nothing like having to emulate a real-life microcephalic from 80 years ago or You know take on an affliction or you know, it's so in a lot of ways
00:06:01
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It was much simpler. I mean, I am not Janice. It's always weird to me when people are like, oh, it's so nice to see you playing yourself. And I'm like, no, I am not a cult leader's wife. But physically, anyway, she was obviously much closer to me. So in that regard, a lot of the
00:06:29
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my work was much easier. Although I like to be a chameleon, I like to kind of transform myself.
00:06:42
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Although, actually, now that I think about it, Janice's hair was quite COVID-like. But, yeah, so, you know, I mean, I read the script and I obviously loved it. It was just why I came on, but...
00:07:00
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Can I just say, I've known Naomi Grossman. We were friends, actually. And we were friends before this entire thing. I've known her for like 20 years. And she was so nice to do this movie. And she was even nicer, because we had a 15-day shoot. It was very tight.
00:07:15
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but then we got to come back we're fortunate to come back and do uh some reshoots which are four days long it just so happened they were happening during the time of the Emmys and Naomi Grossman was nominated for an Emmy and we needed her back and she still came back during all the you know Emmy stuff like you should be oh this is amazing I'm going to these like sweets to pick up amazing bags of this and whatever but you're like I'm missing that day at the sweet
00:07:40
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because I'm coming to shoot your movie again, Mishra. And so I was like so grateful that she did this and was in the midst of that came back for us and helped us. And we're grateful too. And Alok, actually, thank you for coming in there because the next question is for you.
The Challenges of Producing Horror Films
00:07:54
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And you know, producing the film at any time is a challenge, but it also has to be a blast.
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And our listeners, they're all film lovers, obviously they wouldn't be listening to a show about horror movies. But I think it would be fun for folks to hear a little bit more about what it is a producer actually does. And I know, because I used to produce theater here in Chicago, but tell folks here on the show, how many hats does a producer wear? And is producing a horror film different than other genres?
00:08:27
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I think that if you really boil it down to producing independent film, it's called independent film, what it is, like you wear a thousand different hats as a producer. I mean, and especially like a first time producer, which myself and my producing partner Shane Warrister were.
00:08:43
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You know, you're casting one day, the next day you're going to get some feminine energy drink for an actress who will later drop out of your film. Not me. Well not you, obviously you were here, but there was another actress who was supposed to play our Sarah character, who was like a bigger TV actress, and we can't say who because of libel and whatever, but we would say she dropped out. But she has zero career, her career has like flat lines since this all happened. It's not true at all, it's only gone up actually.
00:09:13
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damn it. But no, I'm kidding. We wish her well. But the point of it is that like, you know, I was off getting feminine energy drink in a Gelsons when I got the news that she had dropped out and I was losing my mind. So that's one thing, you know, being gunged in for goddamn energy drink, like let's say, in addition to that, you got to, you know, figure out if if for some reason the
00:09:33
Speaker
Everyone hates the catering that day. Get a new caterer. We got a new get a new caterer. So you do a bunch of different things. And then even after it's over, I'll say this, in post-production has its own life where you're obviously looking at the film and doing different things. And if you need to reshoot, you have to help organize that.
00:09:49
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And then even after that, when you get into your sort of festival circuit and whatever else, like I was doing like, you know, I was trying to like plan our festival trajectory and like trying to like get all these festival directors to take our small film, even though we didn't know anybody. Because let's be honest, a lot of it's sometimes knowing somebody, you know, certain festivals.
00:10:09
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or even like when you've gotten into a good festival, trying to campaign for other festivals that you want to get into and just kind of sending sort of cold emails to people, blind emails. And so, you know, so there's that. And then even after that, like even in the situation where now I was telling you, like, I'm doing our Twitter and our in our Facebook page.
00:10:29
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So it doesn't quite end in that regard. You wear a lot of hats. But I think more so when you're an independent film producer versus being sort of more like a bigger budget film where you have people to help you out with these things. So yeah, I think it's about being independent versus being small budgeted being bigger budgeted. Well, you're doing a great job. Keep all those hats on. They look great on you. Thank you. Fantastic.
Cults and Inspiration for 1BR
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Now, Dave, I know that there were kind of multiple real life cults that kind of sparked your interest when you started creating 1BR. Can you tell us a little bit about which cults were kind of compelling to you and what elements from them, you know, people can look to kind of see in the film?
00:11:13
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Yeah, I've been sort of obsessed with cults for a long time and especially I think when I moved to LA and realized that so many of the ones that we are familiar with started here or had some kind of connection to LA. So the group that's most directly
00:11:33
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kind of referenced in the movie was an organization called Synanon. It's S-Y-N-A-N-O-N that started in LA in the late 50s. And the thing that I found really fascinating about them was something I tried to emulate with the community in the movie, which was that if you looked at it on paper, when they began, they had really very positive, very pure motivations. They began as a drug rehab.
00:12:03
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And this was a time when, you know, not not the drug addiction is not stigmatized now, but it was extremely stigmatized back then. And, you know, there was no understanding of the kind of medical conditions underlying it and nowhere really for people to go for help.
00:12:20
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So, you know, this really filled a need in the community. And then it kind of slowly turned bad. And it's just a really, to me, that's a really fat, like, I feel like there's a story to be told there, you know, about
00:12:35
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sort of watching something like this and what are the steps and why that happens. But I got really fascinated with them as an example of something that started out with really noble aims and then through some combination of the leader being
00:12:52
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probably a sociopath or narcissistic or something. And just circumstances, they kind of became insular and the leader decided that nobody would ever really be cured of their addiction, which is possibly there's some facts to that. But his solution was everybody needs to live here.
00:13:11
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And then it became kind of a prison in a way. And then they started to clash with the outer outside community, which you also see a lot with various different groups. They start to feel persecuted and then they feel like they can like anything they do is justified to protect themselves.
00:13:27
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Um, and they ended up, um, this is just a little aside because I think it's pretty amusing. They ended up, um, kind of having to flee LA because they were in trouble with the law and they moved up to the Bay area and I think bought like a big ranch up there. And around that time, the cult leader who was getting increasingly, um, erratic decided that everybody had to shave their heads male and female.
00:13:50
Speaker
And this was in the mid-70s, or maybe early 70s, and it was around the time that George Lucas, who was based in the Bay Area, was making THX 1138, his first feature. And he needed a whole bunch of bald extras. And so all the extras in that movie are Sinonaut numbers. Shut the fuck up right now. Totally true.
00:14:09
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That's that's wild. Well, there's another mind blowing thing to know about. There's another idea for an episode coming up. We've done one on cults, but we can follow it up with that now. So that's really cool to know, Dave. Thank you for that. Of course. Naomi, you know that you're on a show called Fry Gay, the 13th Horror Podcast. We look at horror from an LGBT perspective. And a lot of our listeners are of course of the community and in the community, including, of course, me and Andrew.
00:14:39
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And we know that you've been involved in activism and advocacy for our community.
Horror's Appeal to the LGBT Community
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And I would love for you to talk a little bit about the work that you've done in the LGBT community and tell us a little bit about why it's been important in your life. Oh, gosh, where to begin? I mean, ah,
00:15:05
Speaker
I don't know which came first, The Chicken and the Egg. Obviously, American Horror Story is a huge, a very popular show in the gay community, and obviously Pepper, especially. I think she's obviously a very marginalized character.
00:15:28
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identify with her. I mean, I can always tell, like, when I go to Comic-Cons, I can spot my fans from the rest, like, a mile away, you know what I mean? Of course. Like, the scary guys wearing the, you know, black T-shirts and all the piercing, like, they're lining up for, you know, Jason and Freddie. But, like, the sweet little gay boys and young girls, you know, are coming for me. Totally.
00:15:55
Speaker
But so, you know, obviously that helped. But I think even before that, like I've always sort of just been like a little bit Liza, a lot of Babs, like, you know, a little bit like, I mean, I am we are broadcasting from my condo in WeHo, you know, with my hot pink convertible smart car parked outside, which was once like
00:16:22
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starred in a gay parade when I accidentally made a wrong turn on a Santa Monica. My second bedroom is just for wigs and shoes. I've just always been this person. Like I said, I can't really tell when it began and when it, well, it hasn't ended and never will.
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I guess I am born female, but if I hadn't, I would be Ru Paul. That's just who I am. I feel like the gays just have more fun, and so do I.
00:17:08
Speaker
I identify. And you know what, thank you for that and that was wonderful and thank you for all the stuff that you do for our community because we really very much appreciate it and love you for it of course and love you in general but love you especially for that and a question actually for all of you is it's a follow-up to this you know thinking of 1BR as a horror film you know I'm a gay horror freak so is Andrew a lot of our listeners are the gay community is
00:17:33
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just one that is Gaga for horror, right? And we have our own ideas on why we think that is, but I would love to hear from any of you. Why do you think the LGBT community and the horror community just go together so well? I don't know, I think that there's a, I think that
00:17:58
Speaker
people that are into horror, they are not necessarily mainstream, and they go for things that are sort of more exciting, creative, interesting in a lot of ways. I think because I love horror. And I think that's maybe some of it too, where there's a certain outsider sort of feeling that sometimes is thrust upon people that are LGBTQ. I think that there is sort of a,
00:18:25
Speaker
I mean, I think there's a place, like, I mean, they love Naomi Grossman, for example, right? Like, they are so into her, and there's something sort of almost sadly damaged, and she's sort of like, she feels like she's almost an underdog, but they cheer for that. And I think that that's the whole thing about, you know, somebody who's being, you know, chased down the hallway with an axe or whatever. Well, they're certainly, you know, running for their lives and, like, trying to fight for their lives, and I think that's a lot of it, that they identify with that kind of character sometimes.
00:18:53
Speaker
Well, I just think the gays have like great taste. Not just because they appreciate me, but just in general, I mean, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, West Hollywood is among the nicer neighborhoods in Los Angeles. Sure. You know, and because they sort of take pride in their
00:19:16
Speaker
surroundings and appearance and In our community, right we take pride in our community I mean like you can look in Chicago for example Where of course we both live and you can track the movement of the LGBT community and follow the beautification of things. It's interesting
00:19:34
Speaker
It's a very interesting moment to watch, right? LGBT people and artists are the ones who start the process in every neighborhood that comes up. Fun fact, the apartment that this is based on was in West Hollywood. That's where I lived at the time. Nice. Yeah. I don't have any particular insight into this, but if I had a guess, I would say that maybe it has something to do with the fact that, like,
00:20:01
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I think that horror when it's at its best, at least the movies that I love the best tend to be
00:20:10
Speaker
they have like a sly way of making social commentary, saying something about society that would be hard to say otherwise. And I think that people that have been in communities that have been historically marginalized are attuned to that. You know, the black community, African-American community actually think a lot of communities of color are very big consumers of horror as well, which is why it's so great to see, you know, filmmakers like Jordan Peele really, you know, becoming
00:20:39
Speaker
a big deal now. But I think that maybe it has something to do with that. You look back as far as like Night of the Living Dead, which was really making some really harsh critiques about our society and about the Vietnam War, but in a way that might go under the radar. So that's off the top of my head.
00:21:03
Speaker
I was gonna also say that the fans like like just for American Horror Story for example like we would go with I'd go to Naomi to some of her friends to like what was the name of the bar they'd have a watching party just because of American Horror Story for just like whatever that's very common in most cities there's that
00:21:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's true. When we were shooting in New Orleans, they would host us every Wednesday. We wanted to watch the episode too. We were all living in a hotel. It was essentially like this freak dorm. We didn't have cable.
00:21:44
Speaker
It was great. It was actually this, yeah, it was a clothing optional country club in New Orleans. Of course. And yeah, we would gather there and watch and they'd get us drunk.
00:22:00
Speaker
And then, of course, once the show had wrapped and we came back to L.A., we had the same treatment here in Los Angeles. And I've encountered that everywhere, in fact. That's awesome. I've been in New York and, you know, hey, will you come to this bar? We're showing the episode? Sure. So I would be surprised if
00:22:23
Speaker
I don't think they're just doing this for me. I mean, I'm flattered if they are, but. They might well, Naomi. We went to, Alok and I went to the far reaches of northern France, and several of your fans came out to see the movie. Yeah. It was like, wow. We hung out with them. They were great. We were in the French Alps, like, I mean, away, like, you know, snowy town. And like, they're like, where is Naomi?
00:22:57
Speaker
Part into all of our French listeners, there we go. Go ahead. So the Janice has got to have a bigger role in the sequel. Right? We don't want to say what happens to her. No spoilers, but it's possible.
00:23:12
Speaker
Yeah, I'm kind of getting back to 1BR. At least I did. I noticed a lot of influences from other horror movies that maybe were emulating. Maybe it was just kind of a thing that I noticed. But, you know, hints of like Rosemary's Baby, The Invitation just from just a couple of years ago. Can you maybe tell us a little bit about your influences as a filmmaker and how it kind of influenced
Cinematic Influences on 1BR
00:23:36
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1BR?
00:23:36
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Yeah, well, I mean, it's no secret that I think anybody who's making a horror movie set in an apartment is going to be influenced by Polanski's apartment trilogy. So that's Repulsion, Rosemary's Baby and The Tenant. And probably there's
00:23:54
Speaker
It's sort of an equal split between all three of those, actually, in terms of influences here. But so that was certainly an influence. Another influence that might not be as obvious to see, but was was pretty important when I was kind of studying how I wanted to make this movie was Darren Aronofsky's movie Black Swan. Oh, yeah.
00:24:16
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Which is, you know, it has a kind of a similar viewpoint in the sense of you have this protagonist and it's an extremely subjective point of view. You're very much just in her, you know, everything is filtered through her worldview. And I thought the way he did that in that movie was so brilliant. So I really studied that. There, you know, obviously like,
00:24:41
Speaker
There are, I think like sort of just as a filmmaker, you collect up ideas and images and things from the people you admire. And I think, you know, when I watch it, there weren't sort of intentional nods, but I think there are like,
00:25:00
Speaker
There's quite a bit of Michael Hanukkah in some of this. I'm a big fan of what he does, although I hopefully am not quite as chilly or provocative a filmmaker as he is. But yeah, I think there were definitely hints of cachet going on here.
00:25:20
Speaker
And, you know, I like almost probably everybody who went ever went to film school. I have a big soft spot for Kubrick. And, you know, so I think there's certainly some some of actually probably more the more a clockwork orange than the shining in this one. But even some of the angles, I feel like I kind of stole subconsciously from from that movie.
00:25:43
Speaker
And a movie about cults, right? And it's a time of great division and giant fuckery and stupidity in our country. And a time, especially right now, even when truth and facts are entirely confused and there seem to be two sides who think this is one and this is another.
00:26:03
Speaker
So a question for all of you. I know this may not have been completely on your mind when you made the film, but why this film now? What about 1BR is the most terrifying now in the reality that we're living in? I mean, I can tell you just not thinking for yourself. I mean, that's a huge thing. It's funny. This film, we've talked about this, Dave and I, and it's not even a thing where we thought that
00:26:33
Speaker
There's been people that look at this film and think it's some sort of like commentary on socialism. They think it's commentary on Trump and all this good stuff. And we're like, you take it as you want. But it wasn't something that I was our main intention to set out to try to make something. There's like one of the IMDb reviews is just like socialism.
00:26:50
Speaker
Like, they like the film, but they're just like, this is haunting, this is haunting me. Because of that reason, right? So, I mean, people have different interpretations is my point. And I think that as far as this time and place, I mean, listen, we could not have predicted this coronavirus thing and the quarantine angle of it, you know? I mean, there's so many people that are like, wow, this is even scarier because of the time that we're living in now.
00:27:20
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like it's become a real sort of like you know a thing like that they they consider when they were doing a film and stuff so I definitely see that you know we couldn't have predicted that in some way but that's that's my answer sorry yeah this is
00:27:35
Speaker
such a weird time, but at least we don't live in that apartment. Like, it's awful, but at least we're not there, you know? It's a fair point, honestly. It really is. It is a fair point. You know, you're not at the point yet where, you know, your proverbial hands are, you know, attached to the wall. Yeah. But, you know...
1BR's Reception During the Pandemic
00:27:56
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Look, I mean, I hope that, you know, it could be...
00:28:00
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in this immediate moment it could be a little bit of an escape. I don't want to make the movie sound like homework. I think it is hopefully a cathartic experience to go through, but taking out the immediate
00:28:16
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Covid situation like when i when we were making it and when i was thinking like you know it does this movie like is it worth making this movie now because i wrote the original draft a long time ago and i put it away for many years and then got it back out and rewrote it.
00:28:32
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And, you know, even at that time, I was sort of struggling with like, you know, does this feel relevant? And to me, the answer that I settled on was was that I feel like, you know, and this is this was a few years ago now and it's only gotten worse since then is this sense that, you know, it does feel like our sense of community cohesion as a nation is kind of fraying. We've sorted ourselves into different areas. And, you know, like you said, we're not speaking the same language. We're not viewing the same reality in some ways.
00:29:02
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And so, to me, the horror of this movie, the scary part of this movie, is craving that and not being able to find it and Sarah ending up seeking it in really the worst possible place. But I think, to me, that's sort of the overall relevance of it.
00:29:24
Speaker
in the larger sense of today is that, you know, I think we are or at least I have, you know, sort of been seeking that sense of community and finding it very hard to find in the modern world. Yeah, that's interesting. But the timing couldn't be better in a way. I mean, as much as I would have loved to have gotten dressed up and, you know, walked a red carpet for the movie, you know, I mean, Alok last year was on a plane like every
00:29:53
Speaker
It was like, it was like, where's Waldo? Where's Alok? Like he was literally jetting from, I mean, this film was at every festival in the world. And I mean, like you couldn't do that now. And now there's like literally nothing to do but stream.
00:30:12
Speaker
one br right now like no one has an excuse to not hopefully did you hear that what else are you doing honestly come on guys no um i uh i had one thought i'm sorry and this might be something you want to edit in a certain other place but um i actually in in a reference to uh the movie being like a lot of different movies like rosenberry's baby the invitation what have you
00:30:36
Speaker
I actually went to high school with Matt Manfredi, who co-wrote The Invitation, and I'm in such a small world that I'm also then producing another movie, my next movie, with one of the producers of The Invitation, and I then, no, but here's the thing, I went to Matt when we were making the movie, and we went to a place called Beer Belly, where they have fried Twinkies and really good beer, and he'd read the script, and I was like, so what do you think? Is it close to here? He's like, it has nothing to do with our film.
00:31:01
Speaker
And I was like, OK, good, good. I got it from the horse's mouth that he thinks it has nothing to do with the film. And of course, I bought him that Twinkie and that beer. And then our other producer, Lindsay Lazanelli, she's like, ah, no. She watched the film. She's like, ah, nah, nah, nah, nah. It's a whole different thing. And I was like, oh, no. They're completely, completely different, completely different speeds, completely different. Yeah, I mean, just different. And they're doing different things. And don't worry. So from them, I felt good about it that it wasn't too close in that regard. So anyway, there you are.
00:31:28
Speaker
Now, just kind of expand upon your thought there, Luke, tell us a little bit about what it was like to watch this film play out on set. I mean, there is some brutality that happens in this movie. What was that like kind of time, you know, seeing? I mean, we're shooting this all out of sequence to some extent.
00:31:44
Speaker
So it's sort of like a thing where like Dave was so good about, like he had 15 days to shoot this initially, right? And so he's keeping everyone in their sort of head spaces where they need to be for every different part we're shooting out of sequence and stuff like that. So for us, like, you know, it was really, you know, crazy to see the brutality and stuff, but you know, it's all like, we shot a little bit more of the more brutal scenes in the reshoots, if I can say that.
00:32:11
Speaker
And so when we did that, you noticed where we didn't get it the first time, the first set of 15 days, and where we needed to get it the second time. And so Dave did such an exquisite job of getting everything we exactly needed from Nicole that we didn't get before,
00:32:29
Speaker
within that. So all the brutality you talk about is something he thought about like had a couple months we had you know we actually couldn't shoot the reshoots for eight months because all our actors are so good and working and popular and whatever else and kind of so to speak bring the band back together took took a second.
00:32:44
Speaker
So he had some time to think about it. He's also editing this thing, like, every day. Also, he had a baby, in addition to that. So this is the most, like, whatever. And, like, I always tell David, because David had a baby, like, right after we finished shooting the first 15 days. And we thought he'd be editing and all this good stuff. And he was just, like, you know, trying to stay awake and not lose his mind and trying to edit a movie. And, like, we're all, like, sort of pissed at him by April. We're like, goddamn it, Marmar, get it together. Get us a goddamn director's cut. And then...
00:33:14
Speaker
I have my baby right before the reshoots and I was like, I'm so sorry, David. I'm so, so sorry. Like I, you know, he was just like, like Yoda, like, don't worry. I appreciated that phone call. It had been, it had been a rough few months. So, you know, it all came together in that regard. We tried, I mean, let's, we trusted each other in terms of what we were saying, in terms of what we were saying brutality wise, like, listen, like my favorite
00:33:40
Speaker
phrase from the director as a producer is, moving on. And we had such good actresses and actors. I mean, Nicole Brighton Bloom could get it on the first take. And if we hadn't had her, and like Dave says this all the time, I don't know if we would have finished this movie. I mean, we had to go back and get reshoots anyways. It's a whole different thing, but not because of her. I mean, she was like one take, boom, done.
00:34:03
Speaker
So we got very lucky in answering, I hope I answered your question in there in some way. The brutality was there, but also just the amount of time we had to make this was crazy. And we had a lot of other stuff going on in the background that just we can get into and maybe another question. But yeah, there was a lot of stuff. Well, we, yeah, we had, okay.
00:34:29
Speaker
I'll go through it real quick, but there's a, there's a article that a movie maker magazine that you can look up that just tells you everything you want to hear with all the like juicy details and stuff. But, but now I'm going to tell it, I'm going to tell it, but I'm saying there's three things that happened in this film that were horrible from a producing standpoint. One, we had these fires that were right near the Getty museum and our production happens to be on the other side of the 405. So those almost burned down and we couldn't go to them like four days before shooting.
00:34:56
Speaker
Then we had three of our top actors drop out. Nicole, the Sarah part, the Brian part, and also Miss Stanhope. In one day, we lost all three of them, and we were four days from shooting, right? Oh, my gosh. That's one thing. And now I'll tell Naomi's story that she wants to hear. The truck.
00:35:16
Speaker
We parked our production trucks, three of them, outside our production offices, which, you know, thank God, didn't burn down. And they're kind of in a nicer part of town. I mean, they consider it from the zip code to be Bel Air, but it's along a busy streets of Paul. And we we were.
00:35:33
Speaker
in the middle of the night i got a text i didn't answer i answered in the morning it's something really bad has happened but i think it's going to be okay and i wake up at five o'clock in the morning we're working 18 hour days at this point because we don't have a lot of time to shoot and i'm like what happened to the other producer and they're like well
00:35:50
Speaker
At three o'clock in the morning, a white Escalade with no plates pulled up to the three trucks that were parked on the road. And three guys got out, broke into the first truck, and then drove off with it. Within like eight minutes, they had stolen this truck.
00:36:06
Speaker
What they didn't know is that we had a parking PA who was sitting in the middle truck watching all this happen. And thank God they didn't try to come and get the other two trucks because I can't even imagine what would have happened there because that guy is aggressive. So what happens is that the parking PA gets out of the truck and gets in his own car and then follows the truck.
00:36:25
Speaker
and he goes across like three different freeways in LA, the 405 to the 10 or the 110 and he's on the phone with the police, like on the 911 and he's calling them and talking to them and they're like, sir, you need to stand down. And he's like, I'm not going to stand down. I will not stand down until you get behind this truck and you're in hot pursuit of it.
00:36:41
Speaker
And so what happens is that you get to the 110, and you need a Felix sign, which you see. It's an iconic sign in LA. That's where the helicopter light went on the truck, and then three cop cars rushed in. Holy shit. And the guy tries to, this is on TV now, by the way. So now the guy tries to get off the freeway near USC, and he's just gunning the truck all over the place, and he's destroying the engine, which we had to pay a deductible on or whatever. Sucked. So they pull him over in the Chevron slash McDonald's station,
00:37:11
Speaker
And they're like, this is all on TV, by the way. Like, if you go to that article, you can see the footage of this guy. Jesus. He's apparently quite handsome. He's a handsome guy, but he's a son of a bitch. They always are a look. They always are. I know. But so anyway, so what happens is that the police are extremely nice to him, by the way. So like, you can say what you want about the LAPD, but they were nice to him.
00:37:34
Speaker
And they took him, and apparently he was part of this truck-stealing ring who had never been caught before. They were trying to drive the truck down to Tijuana and strip it into whatever else to steal the material out of it. It was all our lighting material, actually. And so he apparently was new to the ring and turned state's evidence. And we're supposed to get restitution one day, but we've never seen a dime of it, so I'm not holding my breath for that.
00:37:59
Speaker
but uh yeah it was like a horrible situation but what we did is we didn't tell anybody we didn't tell david we didn't tell any actors we just said hey listen we're starting an hour late get an hour late hour more sleep if you want you know and then we went on our merry way trying to like get a truck in there and do whatever else and we really didn't tell anybody because we had a 15 day shoot we don't want people talking about this we don't need them thinking about this we need them to think about a goddamn movie and
00:38:24
Speaker
So we didn't do any, we didn't tell anybody about this until like the rap party, I want to say. And then some of the people, the actors, we didn't even tell until we were at Fantasia doing our premiere and we told like a story of like, well, we're Q and A, we were doing a Q and A. So they got to hear the story then. They were like, what the hell? So yeah. I want to say you also showed the footage on the screen at Fantasia Fest as well, which is just exciting. Which ironically is on the DVD, which comes out on June 2nd.
00:38:52
Speaker
2020. June 2nd, 2020. That's a producer right there. That's incredible. Well done, Alok. Well done.
Character Development in 1BR
00:39:03
Speaker
Dave, question for you. Thinking about Nicole. Tell us a little bit more about Sarah. She's a super complex character.
00:39:12
Speaker
She's a badass, truly. And as you were forming and crafting the story and her character, what were the most important things for you when it came to Sarah? And were there any ideas about her that you eventually had to leave behind?
00:39:29
Speaker
Oh, I mean probably too many to even get into. My writing process as a local probably come to learn and hate. It's very slow and iterative. I go through lots of drafts and it takes me a long time to do each one. I just have to kind of find it as I go.
00:39:55
Speaker
You know, like I said earlier, Sarah is in a lot of fundamental ways based on me. So there was a core that wasn't changing, that was always there. And that's, you know, I think a lot of times, almost any time I write anything, the central character is gonna be some version of me or some aspect of me is gonna be kind of the core of that character. And so for her, it was really,
00:40:25
Speaker
it was the way i felt as a person when i when i arrived in l.a which i think is you know i think there are a lot of people who you know i mean. On the other hand a lot of people in film school seem to be totally they were much more lisa you know they just had this kind of inbuilt confidence and they were.
00:40:41
Speaker
sure that they were going to be the next Spielberg and everything they did was great and I was completely the opposite. I just didn't have any confidence and I arrived here and looked around and saw 10,000 people trying to do what I was doing and why should anybody pay any attention to me. That always was the core of the character.
00:41:03
Speaker
And then at some point as I was writing it, I started to kind of fuse her with some stories of, some sort of life stories of people I knew who had had, one of my very close friends had had a really difficult relationship with her father. And there was something that I found really interesting about a person who had grown up with a lot of privilege, but not a lot of freedom, if that makes sense.
00:41:33
Speaker
And so that felt like it played into this whole idea that she's looking for a surrogate family, that her father has been this very dominating but kind of negative presence in her life. So those sort of came together and that formed really the core of her. In terms of things that dropped out from her character,
00:41:59
Speaker
There's not really much, like a lot of details about the story changed a lot. But the central character is sort of the core of who she was, stayed pretty similar. I got into a little bit more detail. There used to be flashbacks, you never read this, Alok, but there used to be flashbacks to taking care of her mother.
00:42:23
Speaker
sort of getting more into that backstory. Interesting. And then I ended up dropping that A because you know it just was taking too much time but B because I felt like
00:42:33
Speaker
Just knowing that she had that past was enough and then you saw the relationship she had with Miss Stanhope and I felt like it was going to be repetitive to then see sort of the same relationship with the mother. So yeah, I hope that answers the question. I'd also tell you this too. We cut out a part that was just so heartbreaking.
00:42:55
Speaker
As a producer, heartbreaking for you. So much money was spent on this part. There's a part in the film where we had Sarah try to kill herself and it's a really intricate part. We had this makeup on her neck where she tried to do that and we had to digitally take that out.
00:43:18
Speaker
That was also a hard part towards Sarah's character of another part She could have been like bigger or whatever more rebellious in some way But it kind of like it was weird because in his first cut he had just taken it out We're like what the fuck and he was just like it works better and we're like Yeah Well, thank you for writing her cuz like, you know, like I said earlier I I
00:43:40
Speaker
Um, you know, I love final girls and, um, and, uh, I really did mean it when I say she's a bad-ass, like by the end of the film, and I won't say what happens listeners, but by the end of the film, I was like, fuck. I didn't expect that really. And that was really surprising and cool. So yeah, I mean, I felt, yeah, that, that to me was what sort of is redeeming about the movie in some ways that, you know, through this horrible ordeal, like at least she has gained some strength that she didn't know she had before, you know? Amen. Um, so yeah.
00:44:10
Speaker
Yeah, and the same for the cult leader. I mean, there were parts where I was yelling at the screen that he's awful, and then there were certain parts where he convinced me that they were right. I would say this, it's almost like American History X, right? I always make this example. It's a terrible example, but it's a good example, where Edward Norton is so good in that movie for the first half of it when he's like the white supremacist that he's saying all these things and you're kind of almost like,
00:44:34
Speaker
Yeah, that might be right. And you're like, what am I saying? This is terrible. I don't want to believe this at all. But you've got to get to a place where with the cult, at least, for example, where you're like, well, I mean, they do have good intentions. They could have made it, you know, sexual or something like that, but they don't. And it's really kind of like they seem like they really believe and stand by their sort of like mottos and stuff.
00:44:54
Speaker
Yeah, that was like I was saying when I was talking about Synanon, that was kind of an important thing for me to try to create an ethos for them that felt appealing to me, that I felt like if you actually could have a world that ran by this kind of community spirit, it would be great. But obviously, the way they go about it is horrifying. But the direction that I gave to everybody who was in the community, and Naomi, you'll remember this, was you guys are the good guys.
00:45:20
Speaker
I didn't want any hint of sadism or of we are the evil oppressors. These are people who the leader is is not actually important. They all believe in these principles and they all believe that they are
00:45:39
Speaker
helping the world. And that was, you know, something I really tried to make sure that that every member of the community was was fully embodying. Especially that cute Giles. Holy shit.
Casting and Unexpected Successes
00:45:52
Speaker
Hi, Giles. I'm single.
00:45:56
Speaker
Here's what'll make Giles even more attractive. This blew me away because we got on set, we would do a scene and then we'd say cut and suddenly he's British, like super British. The accent just turns off.
00:46:13
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm like, wow. Sign me up, motherfucker. I'm in. Let's go. Come on. Hop in. The funny thing about Giles is we lost all the people in one day. And so now we lost everybody on a Monday. We're shooting on a Thursday. We pushed everything back to the next Monday. Nicole said yes right away. So we got her out as soon as we could. And Dave got an afternoon, I want to say, of rehearsal with her.
00:46:40
Speaker
But come Friday we didn't have the Miss Danhub character and we didn't have the Brian character played by Giles. And so what happened was that basically I get a bunch of reels and we're desperate to find something because we're starting on Monday, right? And at nine o'clock in the morning I get Miss Danhub's reel. Susan Davis is amazing. She's the mother in War Games. And I look at the reel and at the end there's a phone number and I call the phone number thinking it's gonna be her agent or manager, but it's not. It's her.
00:47:10
Speaker
and i'm like ah well listen this is highly inappropriate but um i'm gonna pitch you the movie i'm gonna pitch it us and she was like okay i've never been in a cult movie before and like i was like by 11 30 we'd signed her now fast forward to like barney's beanery and it's 6 30 at night or almost seven i want to say and we're just like drinking and like
00:47:32
Speaker
I don't even know if we're going to have a movie. We don't have the male lead yet. And we're trying to call people to call in favors, like Jason Blum and his head of post-production, Philip Dawe, to tell them to please tell CAA or whoever it is to stay open late. And finally, around seven, we get a call from Gersh. And by the way, Gersh helped us so much. Gersh was amazing. They were, Rhonda Price was so invaluable in terms of helping us with this film.
00:47:56
Speaker
and it's them telling us we got Giles. What we found out was that he was actually driving down from San Francisco or Santa Barbara or something and he had to pull over to the side of the road and then read the script on his iPhone
00:48:12
Speaker
And he just read his part and said yes. And we were like, fuck yeah, we're making a movie. That is so fucking cool. Yeah, so that's, yeah. But everyone showed up on Monday and we were able to start. So that was the relief because we were like, they might not show up on Monday. It's just the way this is going. Like, incredible. It happened. Thank God.
00:48:33
Speaker
And Naomi, just one last question for you. You know, when you created or when the when the role was given to you on American Horse Ray of Pepper, did you think that this was going to take off like this, where you were going to have like this huge fan base just for that character? Oh, not at all.
00:48:52
Speaker
I mean kind of like with Janice. I was excited to just show my face I was just excited to have a job like you know I mean I'd been going I'd gone on like 22 years of you know auditioning on a veil Callbacks, you know and then crickets and so you know when they cast me I thought
00:49:15
Speaker
I mean, I just figured I was one of an army of pinheads. It never occurred to me that I was the looniest in the asylum. And especially, it just didn't make any sense. Why me? You want to pay me top of show to shave my head?
00:49:35
Speaker
When you have all these other major name actors also playing basically itty bitty roles, you know what I mean? So no, it never occurred to me. And not only why would it, but really it's not the actor's job.
00:49:56
Speaker
We don't decide these things, you know what I mean? Not only did I not even get full scripts, I only got the pages I was in. I knew on page 30, Pepper goes pee and that's it. That's all I get. Of course, I wouldn't know that Pepper was going to be anything. She didn't look like anything, not on paper anyway.
00:50:22
Speaker
you know but um i i think they didn't even know like i really get a feeling especially um you know they kind of i mean i i can't speak for now now they've probably got all the scripts written for now on new eternity because what else do they have to do other than watch on br
00:50:39
Speaker
But at the time they were writing as they went and I think they, I really believe they kind of went into that day room and took a look around and they've got the guy with Tourette's here and the nymphomaniac there and they're kind of assessing. It was sort of like Jackson Pollock style filmmaking where they just throw a bunch of cuckoos in a room and see what sticks. And I think Pepper Stock,
00:51:07
Speaker
And that's why we got to see more of her later on in the other seasons. And she can also come back is the great thing, I think, in terms of the way they started. We're not spoiling the whole series, but if you haven't watched it by now, it's been like 10 years. Yeah, where have you been? And why are you listening to our show? Well, you should be doing both. Yeah, right.
00:51:29
Speaker
Well, we love seeing you come up as Janice in this movie, so we're very nice to see. Well, again, it's another, as Dave was saying before, there's no small parts, only small actors. Janice is not Sarah, but she's just like he said. Janice is a main character in her world.
00:51:55
Speaker
And so you've got to treat her as such. There's a love. There's a love in her. And I won't say to listeners what happens, but you see it. Trust me. It comes out. You see it. Yeah. No, yeah. Naomi elevates that role. Big time. Yeah.
00:52:14
Speaker
And I mean, really, there's a love in everybody. There's even a love in the woman that Sarah runs into when she's first being chased. That's not a spoiler. And she thinks that this is a normal person, right? You should give her a shout, Dave, because she's amazing. Yeah, that's my friend Ernestine Phillips, too. She good. Ooh.
00:52:32
Speaker
So Ernestine and Alan Blumenfeld, who plays Sarah's father, we all did theater together for years at a Shakespeare repertory company in Topanga called Theatricum Botanicum. That is so cool. Yeah, so they're theater friends. And I pretty much cast Ernestine in anything I possibly can. She's fantastic. She's a wonderful person. She's a wonderful actor. And she brings this energy that's just so great.
00:52:58
Speaker
Um, yeah, her, her, her line about the dinner party is still one of my favorite moments in the movie. Um, but yeah, so yeah, she's, she's, she's wonderful. You can hear that line when you stream one BR tonight. Yes. Um, I was going to say Taylor Nichols though, we had to give him a shot as well because he, uh, he, he was one of my, uh,
00:53:20
Speaker
I love the movie Metropolitan in Barcelona and I met him at a party and I basically accosted him and I was like, oh my gosh, Taylor Nichols, I love you. And if I ever have a movie, I will definitely call you. I have a Metropolitan poster at my house. And he was like, seriously? And I'm like, yeah, I do. So a year later, I called him and I was like, I have a movie for you. I'm a crazy guy. So I have a Metropolitan poster at my house. And he's like,
00:53:49
Speaker
Okay, I'll read it. You're the Metropolitan Poster Guy. He remembered you. He did, and actually he brought me to a screening of Metropolitan Barcelona with Whit Stillman. And I made Whit Stillman, like he wouldn't sign it because he's like, ugh, it's not gonna last on this class. So he wouldn't do it. He's like, I'll get you next time. But I brought it for him. That is awesome. It didn't happen.
Supporting Indie Theaters
00:54:10
Speaker
That is so cool and to that end too, I mean for really like first first streaming 1BR and getting in front of people You know, this is a weird time, but you know, I know for example It was supposed to be at music box theater here in Chicago Which you know if you've never seen before music boxes are storied old movie house. It's one of our favorite places in the world Incredible place and they thankfully they are streaming it through their own subscription service thing right now
00:54:34
Speaker
I think there's only two or three more days left if I'm not mistaken. That is true. I went to college in Chicago. I went to Northwestern. So that breaks my heart even more. It's a hop, skip, and a jump from us.
00:54:49
Speaker
If people listening have the time and the means to do it that way, please do. Like these theaters, I'm really afraid we're gonna just lose theaters as a place to watch independent film, you know, that all that's gonna be left is Disney theaters. So please, please, please do whatever you can to support these theaters. As soon as this is over, all I'm doing is going to theater. Andrew, you've got a final question right here.
Upcoming Projects and Future Plans
00:55:12
Speaker
Yeah, so really, I mean, we know that we're kind of stuck inside right now, but what are some of the projects that you guys are working on right now kind of in this downtime? Well, I am actually, remember I alluded a little earlier to how slow I write, I'm using this time to do another pass on my next script, which I will not tell you the title of because Alok got mad at me the last time I did that.
00:55:39
Speaker
But Alok and Shane and our other producer, Sam, are going to be producing that. And I'm really excited about it. It's a script that is very near and dear to me. And I could not be more thrilled to be re-teaming with the gang and making that happen.
00:55:57
Speaker
It's so good, by the way. Can I just tell you? And this is the reason we're JJ Abrams-ing the shit out of that, because we just want to keep that mystery in the box for a second if we can. I think it's just smart in this day and age. Everyone gets everything immediately. We're not telling you shit right now. That's exciting.
00:56:14
Speaker
But Dave's just putting finishing touches on it and stuff, so we'll see. We're doing another project right before that, because he's still writing his thing. We're supposed to be shooting it now, actually. It's a movie called Emergent. It's with Marcel Sarmiento, who did the movie Dead Girl, if you've ever seen it. It's a great film. And Lindsay Lanzanetta from The Invitation, also helping us produce it, and Shane Vorscher, my producer partner as well. So we're trying to do that first when we get out of this lockdown and stuff like that. We've been seeing all the different sort of like,
00:56:44
Speaker
Missives that they have for shooting things and right now it still doesn't make sense because it's gonna take you twice as long in terms of Distancing everybody from each other and having to like it's like, you know a 30-day shoots a 60-day shoot I don't have money for 60 days So it's like that's what's going on We're waiting for that to happen and then we're gonna do days project next so we can't wait for to get back together get the band back together So to speak so that's what it is for for us at least
00:57:09
Speaker
Is Janice in it? It's not part of the 1BRCU. It's Naomi. We'll have to find a different role for you. That's all I care about. But Naomi, beyond Janice, what's next for you?
00:57:29
Speaker
Well, only because you mentioned you're in Chicago, you'll appreciate just today it was announced that a video game that I voiced, Mafia, is coming out in August. But today was the official announcement, which I don't know if there's a lot of crossover between horror fans and gamers. Oh, big time.
00:57:54
Speaker
I would imagine. As you might imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Nerds are nerds, right? Yeah, exactly. But yeah, they're doing a remake of the old iconic 2002 Mafia game. That's so cool. It's all redone. And I have a very thick Chicago accent, which hopefully you'll approve of. I don't know. Naomi, you've got to give us a line of dialogue.
00:58:20
Speaker
Oh God, I don't I mean it's all period, you know, it's 1930s. It's like the gangster, you know, I'm a mob wife and I honestly don't remember any of my lines like I forget everything So I couldn't but it was fun, you know, I was like
00:58:44
Speaker
You know, I get killed like a million times because it's a video game, you know what I mean? So if you go this way, I die this way. What's that? Was it because of the voice though? Like, hey, come over here, husband. I can't take any more.
00:59:03
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's really interesting when you're in the booth, they're like, okay, now you're falling out of a car. And but now, now the car is driving like much faster, you know, now fall out of it, like, you know, you're dying by Uzo versus dying by like a small pistol, like they're very different death. That is, that's, that's, that's incredible.
00:59:26
Speaker
It's fun. Anyway, so that happened today. That's awesome. It was announced that it's not only in existence, but that I'm involved. So that's kind of fun. Cool. During quarantine, it's very hard. There's nothing going on, of course. I'm working on a new one-woman show, which is sort of my thing. I've done two previously, and so I'm working on a third, which I also wish I could give
00:59:54
Speaker
tell you the title because it's sort of everything. But I want to wait for the big reveal for that. But let's just say that horror and especially American Horror Story fans will be satiated. Yes. You know the other thing you might want to mention, speaking of Chicago, is that you have a classmate from Chicago, Ken Risboy, which you did a movie with him too.
01:00:19
Speaker
That's true, yeah. Since we're streaming, because 1BR is only, what, 90 minutes. And we're going to be in this quarantine for a whole lot longer than that. There is another movie you can stream with me in it. It's called Murder Rx. And it's less horror and more sort of psychological thriller. Write me a prescription, doctor. I'm going to take it right now.
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, so anyway, but it's true. One of my classmates from Northwestern directed, which was really fun because we remember, I mean, he was an old roommate of mine once, and we always dreamt of the day we one day work together, and then it finally happens. I love that. Well, you know what? It sounds like you're all making good time of this shitty time that we're in.
01:01:11
Speaker
And I hope that part of the best time you've experienced was talking to me and Andrew, because it's been a great time for us and super lovely. Thank you. This was so much fun, you guys. This took a whole hour. Thank you.
Closing Remarks and Streaming Options
01:01:23
Speaker
It flew by. So thank you all so much for being with us. I could have kept on going with this all day. Listen, they're going to always be a part two, you know? I'm not doing anything. I'm always looking for an excuse not to write. Sorry, I love that. Yeah, and I'm also looking for an excuse not to hang out with my baby.
01:01:42
Speaker
And also drink. So it doesn't turn into the shining over here. Everyone's like, this wallpaper in the background always looks like the shining. A little bit, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'll work and no play makes, hello good dull boy. I have Rosemary's baby's hair at the beginning of this and now look at me.
01:02:01
Speaker
Well, thanks so much, Alok, David, and Naomi for joining us. Listeners, you can stream one VR right now on Apple TV, YouTube, Amazon Prime, Google Play, I think pretty much all the things. Direct TV. Direct TV. I'm sure you can too.
01:02:19
Speaker
And for you Chicago folks, you know, Alok mentioned this earlier, but you know, you can stream the film from our friends at the Music Box for just a little bit longer. So please go and do that if you can. Check out their website. You'll find all the information on there. For wherever you live, many independent theaters, you can also do this. You all know the importance of keeping these beautiful old movie houses in business because we need them when we come back to reality.
01:02:43
Speaker
We hope you all stay safe and stay healthy. We love you, we miss you very much. And as usual, and as always, Andrew and I invite you to get slayed.