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Season 2- Episode 15- Naka-warrior-awa (Champions Cup Round 3)
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Well we still have more questions than answers, but we got some answers after this weekend. It's your favorite American Rugby lads ready to hang out with you. This week we discuss some player movement including a huge, literally...wait...yeah no, literally, signing for Glasgow and also some possible Premiership shuffling. And as you'd expect, we recap all the action, with one hiccup, from the first weekend of the home & away series in Champions Cup. Tune in and enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction and Champions Cup Week
00:00:07
Speaker
Hey everybody, how's it going? It is the fancy rugby angst. My name's Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glaser. Welcome in. We're in between our home and home series here in Champions Cup week. It was a little disappointing for the likes of you and I, but other than that, there was still some good stuff that was really disappointing for a couple other teams too. Yeah, and we'll get to that. It was some really good performances too. Also that.
00:00:29
Speaker
Yes, there's always good with that and the return of good sips. Yeah, we will definitely get to that Yeah, but but it's always you know good to see the the best players playing at the the peak of their ability That's what you hope to see in this competition. Yeah, that's why it's here. Um, let's crack these suckers
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00:00:45
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first. Hell yeah Welcome to media movies
00:00:54
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Make sure that you are subscribed and check us out on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify, tune in. Damn, I really screwed that one up, eh? Oh, nice head. Oh, phrasing. There you go. Not that I should talk.
00:01:13
Speaker
Yeah, well, my mind's definitely worse. It's amateur night here. Yeah, it is amateur night over here. It's all right. But beer still drinks last time I checked, even if you do that. Yeah. You'll be all right. We'll live. Yeah, we will. What the heck was I going to say?
Premiership Standings and Performance
00:01:29
Speaker
Oh, Roggy Mag upgrades, though. That's what you get.
00:01:32
Speaker
Next week, obviously we're getting back into the premiere ship. So make sure that you are checking that out for yourselves Especially if you want to compete with the likes of us. We're both at least top and two of the top ones in America I know that really yeah, that's what the fuck I don't know I've been shit I'm finally getting back into this. I say your last two weeks weren't that bad. No, they weren't they're getting better But yeah, but I started okay and because bet that Ben Earl week is the one that really did it for me, right?
00:01:58
Speaker
You got to have like one or two guys early or you just end up getting the right guys at just the right time Yeah, that's something like that Yeah, like a stacker has been disappointing a little bit until that last until that last one, right? So, you know, we're kind of restoring the order of of the way things are supposed to be so hopefully the people who are ahead of us Just had some like one-hit wonders Maybe like Johnny Hill falls off or something like that and everybody's got a release in that although he seems to be playing still playing at least so That's the upside Anyway, I only like him easy don't like him because he's
Rugby UNAG and Fantasy Rugby Geats Promotion
00:02:28
Speaker
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00:02:53
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Something like that. Yeah, pretty good. So and then obviously if you if you haven't checked out our friend, the Fantasy Rugby Geats page, make sure you let you do in that. He always puts up good content. So if you're sick of listening and you want to read something and actually pretend that you're doing some work at work, it's a good thing to go ahead and read for yourself. So go ahead, check his page out and he'll keep you up to date on all things, both FRD and TRM.
00:03:17
Speaker
and if you play a couple other formats yeah a couple other formats he is he is right into it so we're all just like we'll let you do that he's like some kind of geek about fantasy like he's crazy he's a superstar that's for sure um so yeah check his play page out uh news this week well there was one one bit of news and then another one followed it Leona Nakarawa got released by harassing and people people are like why it's like yeah because the french are stupid right
Leone Nakarawa's Team Dynamics
00:03:46
Speaker
Because he doesn't want to play for them. What the fuck? You know, I mean they were they were dicks to him around wicked dicks around his World Cup experience. So Mm-hmm. Bye. Yeah and has since signed with Dave running at Glasgow Supposedly, it's not it's not confirmed. But you know that would bring with a smoke. There's fire That being a great element to their team something that that they could really use so special I mean they have some good forwards, but he would just I
00:04:10
Speaker
Such a dynamic. Yeah, that's the thing It's the dynamic that they need especially the the ball movement and and and offloads and shit that they'll bring to the table It's a different it's a different element that then the other guys that they have so And hopefully that rubs off on them. They could play a lot much more open style that like they played this week was was pretty good. Yeah spoilers spoiler they
00:04:36
Speaker
Yeah, I wonder, because they got to the final for Pro 14 last year. And they just didn't get over the line. I was in Glasgow, I think, too. So it was unfortunate that they fell short to Leinster, who are obviously a perennial power in that league. So I know they won at once.
00:05:01
Speaker
Um, but it'd be, it'd be nice. I'm sure Dave Rennie would love to get one more win and get a title before he, uh, takes off and goes to Australian rugby and takes charge of that job. Um, so we'll see how that goes, but, uh, that, that won't hurt by any means whatsoever. And then lay on a Nakarawa off supposedly on his way to Glasgow warriors. Look out pro 14.
00:05:24
Speaker
And then we might have some other movement in the prem.
Kyle Sinclair's Potential Move
00:05:28
Speaker
And we talked about it last week is alluding to it, not necessarily hitting it right home, but Kyle Sinclair possibly on the move, Gloucester or Bristol. Bristol being, sounds like they're the favorite now. Right. Who knows? I like that though. Obviously he must be listening to the pod. Yeah, he listens to us. Good joke. I like you. You're funny. You made a joke.
00:05:53
Speaker
Yeah, come to us for all your career advice, not just fantasy rugby advice. We'll get you sorted. Yeah, like I said last week, that would be a great move for him. That's a player of his skills that would do very well under Pat Lamb. I won't argue it with you.
00:06:12
Speaker
And I think that that that would be good for the club, too. So I'm all in favor of that for every reason. Yeah. And they said somebody said, well, imagine if Gens went went back to his boyhood club, which is Bristol, right? As well. And I was like, well, John, John, if I was old, but man, that guy still got it. And he still plays like 80 fucking minutes. Yeah, I know. He's still a monster. I don't know how he keeps doing this. No, I don't know. Yeah. He's not he's no longer a young man.
00:06:38
Speaker
No, he's at the point where I was like, I'm not doing this anymore. Fuck this shit. I'm not doing it in three minutes at that. Right. Shit. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, it's it's pretty crazy that he does what he does. So I think a front row of a FOA attacker and Sinclair would be a lot of ball movement in the front row for sure. Yeah. I'm pretty impressed by that. Yeah, that would be fun.
00:07:02
Speaker
So that would be a great ad for the likes of Pat Lamb. Obviously they've got Rodrodra coming in, which is he and Pyotow in the back. And they have a couple other back three guys besides those two that can light the world on fire as well.
00:07:19
Speaker
So maybe some people will stop fucking whining about Saracen and start worrying about the bears and I'll love it. It'll be great fucking rugby and to give people something else to whine about. Yeah, I did. I did see the meme. Somebody's like, uh, I don't remember what it was. It was something all haters are going to hate and all the things that they said about the Saracen. Yeah. Yeah. And then obviously we know what they did this weekend. Right. They're B side. It was like a side. They're B plus side, but still a B side. Still, you know, for the most part, the exceptional one or two.
00:07:47
Speaker
Yeah, so it's it's gonna be a fun year in the prom next year. I just can feel it but uh, It doesn't mean this year won't be but it's uh, there's gonna be something fun going on down at Bristol
00:07:59
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like the overall, and you know, again, get away from this weekend, but I feel like the overall quality of play in the prem has been a lot, a lot better this year. Um, a lot more ball movement. We, we see those, uh, playmaker stats, um, or the playmaker breakdowns. And for most of the teams, they're very much skewing more towards the even among the three. So. Right.
00:08:19
Speaker
You're not seeing it and even fucking even Exeter is is playing some loose rugby and who have not shared a lot They definitely haven't in their day. So it's uh, it's gonna be fun. Yeah going down the homestretch here Let's go to The games that happen this weekend There were games, right? Um
00:08:40
Speaker
the aptly named bath bath i know it was a bath uh bath and claremont at the bar that poor field yeah poor pitch somebody just like give them a feel to to play on for like two months so they can re just do everything
Pitch Conditions and Clermont's Performance at Bath
00:08:57
Speaker
to that place i guess it's like right on the water line which is a terrible place to have a grass field obviously i was like that's not good yeah that's not gonna help yeah it didn't help that first match and then i think like the second match and then they were just a bunch of
00:09:10
Speaker
No, it's just continued to get turned up, which sucks. Like even at the kickoff, I'm looking at that pitch, and you can see the divots, and you can see the holes, not really divots, and it's just... Yeah, Priestland nearly slipped on his try. He's like trying to go to the middle. I was like, why don't you just put the ball down before you turn an ankle? Yeah. God, it was pretty bad.
00:09:30
Speaker
But, uh, to the rugby that was on there, uh, George Moala is a beast. If you haven't figured that one out, then everybody else found out about it that watch this match. Cause this dude was tough to tackle and you know, he muscled himself over for one, obviously. And he was definitely a huge key in the, uh, the, the Spaniard born Spanish born winger. Isiella. He was fantastic. Yeah. He was huge, especially at the end there.
00:09:53
Speaker
And and so he how old is he like 18? He looks it. Yeah, I know he looks like a baby, right? Um, looking to see what it up But he was dynamic he he like you With that age you get in a position like this, especially with the the guys he's playing around and it's easy to kind of want to fall back into the um
00:10:16
Speaker
You know into the shadows and kind of just do your job, but he was putting his his hand up saying no Yes, I I'm gonna play with you. I'm gonna do some of this stuff, you know His work with the Beninin was was fantastic. He just turned 19 Wow So he'll be he'll be one to watch for for Hopefully a fairly long time
00:10:33
Speaker
Yeah. And I hope, you know, to the sake of world rugby, I hope he stays with like the Smash national team because they were close to getting to the World Cup. Yeah. So that would be, that'd be pretty kind of cool if he stayed with them and was a big part of them getting to the World Cup because they haven't been to the World Cup for a long time.
00:10:50
Speaker
Yeah. And I will say this, though. So he said this Isiela was he's, you know, playing a 14. Did did we're kind of economy like I saw him on the field a couple times. He's not been in good form since he's come back, I have to say. Yeah, he's been kind of a ghost. Which is it. And they, you know, they really need that from him. Beth really need that that pick up from him. Rocker, do you need to get a good match? But they need, you know, they need him to step up. They need to be what he was last year. Yeah. You know, he was a huge part of this team.
00:11:20
Speaker
Jonathan Joseph looks pretty darn good. Just the same. No, he was he was Dan He was putting some dance moves in there. I got to give him credit Obviously we had we had a couple go ahead solid solid match and really
00:11:38
Speaker
It was tight right up until, um, I think, uh, Claremont kind of figured out what, what type of, of lines we're going to break through the, uh, the bath defensive line. Yeah. Well, I figured that out from the word go, I think, but everybody else had to kind of follow suit slowly.
00:11:56
Speaker
And then towards the 60th minute, that's when they finally said, yeah, let's run those Anders lines off of second receiver. And boom, they're through. They're looping around for offloads. And they're breaking the line and just carving up the back defense. It led to a couple of line breaks and then, I think, two tries.
00:12:14
Speaker
Yeah, um, yeah because he's yellow got over For yeah, you get over for one and then he he started another one which went through a couple of hands Fritz Lee I think ended up being the one that Andre. Oh, Andre. Okay. Uh, maybe maybe Lee Lee off Lord Yeah, and then he got one for the clincher as well. And that was all within a space of seven minutes. Yeah, wasn't much 65 67 72. Yesh that that's Yeah
00:12:40
Speaker
Bath kind of like that's this, you know, you coaches tell players all the time. You can't go to sleep even for five minutes Well, that's what happens when you go to this level this competition you go to sleep for five minutes and they put three tries in on you. Yeah, and Camille Lopez did well to manage the team very well moving them around. He's a obviously a savvy veteran They did lose para as long and bath also lost below to hia's both failed which was unfortunate the cook
00:13:08
Speaker
quick tap that was called back. I thought that was very unlucky on his part. I thought Andrew brace could just let him go and then talk to whatever player you need to talk to afterwards. I understand he's having to talk to but but it's a try. It should have been a try. Right.
00:13:23
Speaker
Should have been trying that one. And he didn't do the double blast. He just did the one as if it's a regular penalty. Yeah. You know, if you get no reason to think otherwise. Right. And then he didn't blow the whistle again until after the try comes over. He's like, oh, no, no, no. We're coming back. And it's like, dude, just.
00:13:39
Speaker
He should be just let him have it. Right. Helmet. Um, yeah. And then when Lidlock came on, you know, I said, I don't know if Claremont's going to win this if he's playing Scrum half, but luckily Lopez was playing 10 for the majority of the game. So yeah, not that big a deal. And that was around the time where I think I replied about, you know, this team's going to be lost by the team that plays worse, not by, not won by the team that plays better. And yeah.
00:14:02
Speaker
I was wrong. We were both wrong on that because Claremont really started to play well. I don't think that had much to do with Laidlaw. I think that was just the exterior attackers sorting out Bath's defense and unlocking it more than who was Scrumhalf.
00:14:18
Speaker
So Claremont win 34 17 in the visit to Bath and now they get to welcome these guys to their place back in France And that is a fortress for them. So godspeed. Yeah Bath are having a rough one. Yeah, this is it was fun to see abandoned him back at the wreck and he seemed to be enjoying himself back at the wreck and I think he and Stuart Hubert actually used to play together So they they had a good good talking with afterwards, which was which is definitely the the upside of rugby
00:14:47
Speaker
that we like to see and then good lord what happened over what happened over there we had leon and benetton and i was very wrong about this match it looks like i didn't get a chance to get into it but me neither but man uh didn't look like it was worth it didn't didn't look like benetton did either no
00:15:10
Speaker
Oh, I saw that when I saw Tommy Allen sitting I was like, oh, that might be that might be a white flag right there Yeah, making like McKinley was the backup 10 even so I was like, oh boy. Oh, yeah They're mailing this one in there. Aren't they and why why would that be? I mean, we don't really get to
00:15:28
Speaker
Well, I'm sure they still I'm sure they still have aspirations to get into the knockout for Pro 14 which means they need to probably consolidate a little bit to that because then they can qualify for this again next year That's the only way that these Italian teams can qualify for it is if they qualify for the pro 14 playoff gotcha and you know, I think once they lost that
00:15:51
Speaker
Amazing game to the Saints. I think they kind of knew off shit That might be the end for us because knowing that they have Leon who are one of the better teams in France But aren't having this I played like it in this competition and then let's turn Northampton who are definitely two of the better teams in this comp Once they saw that in front of them, they're like fuck. Yeah screwed. So I mean So they'll probably try to play they'll probably try to rock up at home. Oh, yes at home Give their did their fans something to look for. Yeah, that makes sense as to to
00:16:21
Speaker
allocate your resources For the for the big picture not just because yeah, you're not they're not waiting this thing. Yeah, so just just fight your best and Try to give your fans a show.
Benetton vs Lyon Strategy
00:16:33
Speaker
Yeah, yeah live to get back another day I mean, it's 20 nothing a half time which tells you pretty much right and they weren't they were scored right from the start Yeah, I mean that uh, was it they scored two minutes in seven minutes in? That's uh, yeah you give up to two tries in the first ten minutes and
00:16:49
Speaker
Probably not going to be here unless you unless you've just not even waking up yet, and then you're ready now You're ready to come on to play. That's that's pretty much it. No Yeah, 20 clean line breaks for Leon As opposed to the seven from Benetton, so that's not fantastic
00:17:05
Speaker
The tackle rate wasn't too bad for Benton. Obviously, the more tackles you have to make, the more likely it is you're going to miss a higher percentage. That's just how it goes, because you get tired, that whole thing. 11 turnovers, one for Leon to Benton's three. So that's probably another part of it as well. I guess I'll go back and have a peek at this if I'm sitting on my butt doing nothing this week. But that is an unfortunate loss for Benton to zip to Leon, and hopefully they play a little bit better in the return fixture.
00:17:35
Speaker
but there was another match that at that time. And that was pretty good. Northampton in less than half even up until like 50 60 minutes. Yeah. And then it was that and I noted it was the it was that one period. I don't remember when exactly it was was probably in like the 65th minute or so where Northampton it sustained a lot of pressure.
00:17:58
Speaker
And got nothing out of it. Yeah, I was like that is probably gonna do it right there and I was like Yeah, what's going on there?
Leinster's European Play
00:18:05
Speaker
It was and then obviously lancer busted it open afterwards, but right they had they had the guys to do it, too I and I I think this is also a pretty classic. Um
00:18:16
Speaker
Premiership match so you know, we've just kind of talked about the the the style of play the Premiership is is opening up but the mentality around the scoreboard still isn't Where you're in a match against a team like like Leinster You know, they I realized that they're probably good decisions at the time, but if you're kicking three penalty kicks in one half
00:18:40
Speaker
Um, you better be super confident that you're ready to break those lines later. Um, and especially if you're already down a little bit, it's, it's probably best to, uh, you know, be, be trying to take the scoreboard, kick over with tries rather than, than PK. So, and the, the premiership is very penalty kick oriented. It's very much centered around penalties, um, more so than trying to score tries. Yeah. But you got to score tries in Europe.
00:19:07
Speaker
Right, so so that I think that's more there that that's just more of a tactical decision-making thing where next time you know Yeah, we can make this and it'll be helpful, but We we will need the extra points later. Mm-hmm. Yeah sexton did come off in this match Yeah, he fell on his knee pretty awkwardly and he looked very unhappy. I don't know what it is I don't know what the status is as of right now, but he looked very unhappy and
00:19:30
Speaker
This game started off hot, Larmor almost end-to-end, with Lo finally finishing it off. And then, I don't know, five minutes later, Tuala got over in the corner and I was like, shit, we are in for a dogfight, aren't we? And we were for a little while.
00:19:45
Speaker
Rewind to, and we talked about the penalty kicks, we rewind to Northampton at the gardens against Leon. They only got one try. They beat him soundly, looking at it, but they only got one try, which maybe kind of something you could look back on and say, maybe, you know, it started to leak a little bit there. And then obviously here really reared its ugly head. I don't, I don't know for sure, but I'd say there's definitely something that you could probably look back on that. Yeah. It was a,
00:20:13
Speaker
Leinster yellow card after Waller ring the ring rose yellow card when they got Waller back that was That was a bit that that was their chance and they didn't take it they didn't take it and then McGrath scored and Burn scored so that was like yep, that's
00:20:32
Speaker
There Voro as much as we were I was talking him up last week about his defensive game I got got a little pants this weekend. Mm-hmm Wow, those guys, right? Those pants know what you do about it, especially those two. Yeah low and and Larmor seems to just find gaps. Yeah look like Gibson Park was gonna go over but Reinik was the hero to save him and
00:20:54
Speaker
Eventually, they did get over but at least he made him earn it. Yeah, it was it was it was a tough one from that and they will have to learn their lessons big time once to take the take care of the Saints at Franklin's Gardens and it will be I anticipate still another doozy at the RDS coming up this week between these two again, but 43 16 to lancer over the Saints and a little bit of disappointment at over there in Northampton and then
Glasgow's Defense Against La Rochelle
00:21:22
Speaker
La Rochelle and Glasgow. Yeah You said this was a Quite the squeaky bump time too. Yeah, it was and It's so funny that that I mentioned it in my notes at one point how much work Glasgow are doing In their own try zone and they're right right in front of their own try zone. Mm-hmm The story of the entire match was was their defense on their own goal line interceptions turnovers, you know earning penalties all that shit
00:21:50
Speaker
Just making sure that La Rochelle was staying out of their try zone as much as possible. Rochelle got over early with a, well not too early, but first. Kind of like a pinball try. Kind of a little bit of a fluke.
00:22:09
Speaker
Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm looking at the thing. Oh, no, there is. Yeah, the pre-zo. That's right. The pre-zo trial. I had the teams flipped in my head while I was looking at the source summary. But yeah, the Glasgow just battled back. They got kind of a pinball try of their own right at the half.
00:22:28
Speaker
You know, they just kept themselves in it and really kept La Rochelle out of their tries of same thing like you keep them if they want to kick penalty kicks Okay, just try to do what you can to keep them out of your try zone
00:22:41
Speaker
Cause yeah, uh, Laura shell kicked four, four PKs, um, ended up giving up three tries. And, and, uh, again, it came, like you said, came down right squeaky bum time at the end. Um, where with that, that was what ended up being the final score 27 24. Uh, and, uh, the last 15 minutes were just kind of.
00:23:01
Speaker
You know nerve-wracking as you're watching the edges your seat shit where you know Not the best quality of rugby, but the fact that you know anything any one mistake changes changes how this goes Jeez and and it was crazy the uh The does Lara shell go instead of ticking for the the points the penalty kick to tie it at the death They said no, we're gonna we're gonna go for the corner They probably didn't they probably had no interest in two points. They probably wanted all four and
00:23:31
Speaker
And glasgow earned the scrum off the line out mall And then uh, love our show win the penalty off the scrum And then they want the ball and then he ultimately knocked it on to end the match on their goal line On i'm sorry on glasgow's goal line. So it was that it was that little again that goal line defense That was that had been the story of the match Um was really how what sealed the deal too. Yeah Yeah, consistency
00:23:55
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, Gripple Glasgow, that's a big one for them. Lowershell of. And we can't not talk about the Madawalo interception try. Oh, yeah. He had one. Yeah.
00:24:06
Speaker
Uh, we're, we're, we're, we're again in Glasgow territory, um, looking dangerous and the theme here and Matawalo makes the read and just steps through and snags it. And there's just nobody, he just turned on the burners and then he is fast gone fast. Yeah. When he played scrum half, uh, once upon a time, he was definitely one of those guys that would snipe and you'd be like, damn it, get back here. Yeah. So I remember that.
00:24:31
Speaker
Well, how about that? Glasgow stay alive, 27-24 in their pool. Obviously they got the return fixture going back to the Scottson this weekend, and I think they're going to feel pretty good about themselves having been able to pick up this win away from home in France, which is not always fun for any of these teams to go to France, obviously. Right. It was a big team win by Glasgow. They can match that effort. They should be all right this week, too. Yeah, I bet.
00:24:54
Speaker
Well, you had squeaky bum time. We had some squeaky bum time and open mouth insert foot Jared.
Ulster's Win Over Harlequins
00:25:00
Speaker
I said that I thought, I thought that Quinn's after watching their, they weren't necessarily great in the premiership on the previous weekend and then their European match before that was even worse. So even though they picked up wins in both, I thought for sure they were gonna get hosed going up to Belfast, which is not a fun place to play at the King's band.
00:25:22
Speaker
I was wrong. They played very well. Danny Care was definitely impressive in this. Cooney's selfishness kind of came rear in its ugly head again. But he is the hero in the end. You take the good with the bad with somebody like that because he does have the skills and he does have some amazing talent. I kind of almost hate that.
00:25:48
Speaker
Like, you know, it'll be so much easier if you didn't do this shit at the end of the game to win it. Because then you'd be annoying, but it's like, oh, wait, you can back it up. Fuck. Fair point. Go on. Stuart McCloskey was a monster in this game. He scored himself and he got a feel of the cross kick and was able to offload it because he was standing still when he fielded it.
00:26:08
Speaker
was able to offload it to a teammate who dove over and he was Sean Reedy that ended up diving over for that one. He was an absolute monster in this game and it looks like we have the return of Alex Dombrandt. He is back. We saw him last week. He played pretty well. He's another one. I've been wondering where he's been.
00:26:24
Speaker
Intercept that ended up. I mean had he been anybody else he would have been gone, but big old dominator ain't that fast Not got tackled midfield. They moved it one other phase and then ended up being nobody home afterwards Elliott Elliott spots that and just takes off and says see ya
00:26:40
Speaker
And he did he that was right right before or right after Elia Elia dove over from kurtani So it was it was a it was a easy double for Elia Elia There's been easier ones out there, but that was not super difficult He was at least running the good support line. So you gotta give him that one. That's for sure Yeah, Quinn's contain Marcel could see a very well in this game. You gotta give him that and
00:27:04
Speaker
But there were other guys that were causing them problems. Louie Ludic didn't look great, but McCloskey and Luke Marshall were definitely ones that were causing them problems. John Cooney, obviously, doing what he does. And then, in the end, Cavu Body. Oh, no. So Ulster Drive Over, it was... was it? Yeah, so they were down.
00:27:29
Speaker
was they were down by nine and with about two to go, they, they ended up dying down off a mall. I believe so. I believe that's what it was. Nope. I lied. Um, yeah, well they, they did dot down, but it wasn't as late as I thought it was anyway. Uh, it's a slot. It's a slug fest back and forth and eventually, um,
00:27:54
Speaker
they get the quince to give away an offside penalty on Cubba Body, who was, the ball was nowhere near out. He shouldn't have even moved when he moved. I think he realized it and said, oh, I have made a terrible error. And it was not close. It's just somebody had to hit it. Right. As somebody that size, sometimes you get those fast twitch muscles going. You can't stop them. And all of a sudden you go, and you're like, oh, wait, I can't go the other way. And that's too late. You gotcha.
00:28:24
Speaker
So Cooney nails it big, he calls himself the slot machine and he earned it there big time. I'll give this young man credit, Marcus Smith is looking every bit the part. He managed this game well, he kicked well, he kicked four for points well. Quinn's are gonna go places with him in charge. I agree. I will say that. He looks really, really good. Definitely an upcoming young star.
00:28:51
Speaker
and has the uh the the coolness to yeah never seems like he's flustered no it never seems like he's flustered i mean game's not moving too faster and the decision making decisions you have to has to make he doesn't feel he doesn't seem i should say i don't know the fuck how he feels he uh he doesn't seem too uncomfortable with them or or they don't seem too big for him he just does what he needs to do no he looks very good um
00:29:14
Speaker
It speaks volumes, I think, that he's taking the tee when James Lang is still on the field. So I think that's definitely a big nod and a big point in his bucket for his future right there. Referee did let a lot of handbags go, and I didn't feel like he controlled it well. And one thing I'm really, really getting annoyed with is all the afters on line outs, like when guys go into touch, oh, I'm going to try and take it quick. You're not actually trying to take it quick. You're now just being a dickhead. So stop.
00:29:42
Speaker
Just stop. You're not actually taking it quick. The guy slid into touch. Don't go over there and try and harass him. Now you're just being an asshole. Yeah. So, you know, just knock it off, man. Knock it off. Yeah. And and I was thoroughly pleased with the officiating this week. Well, we all know that's that's a rarity. Not. Yeah. No. Yeah. Watch your nose almost got me. Yeah. Good God.
00:30:08
Speaker
So the, uh, the Ulstermen take it 25, 24, and they, this will be an interesting trip coming back home to the wreck. Uh, not the wreck, uh, the stoop. Sorry. Um, back in, uh, back in London here, just outside Twickenham there. And then, oh man.
00:30:26
Speaker
This was an impressive effort by the boys in black at toman park And you can't say anybody that thinks otherwise is just stupid Yeah, that
Saracens vs Munster Performance
00:30:37
Speaker
that's it. You know, you're playing a great team on the road. The conditions were fucking miserable miserable And they were going into that into the wind the first half. That's they had to do so much work You mean saw those those box kicks or any of the kicks? They would just die
00:30:50
Speaker
you'd see them like you'd think the angle would be great they'd be shooting out like they've you know this is a good like 50 60 meter kick and then it just popped the ball like goes up and it just goes backwards and it's like oh fuck this is some sort of wind yeah it was a nest that was a nasty one and it sheets of rain too which did not help at all
00:31:09
Speaker
It was pretty, pretty nasty stuff. I mean, Ben, Ben Spencer put in what was normally when he had the win, what was normally his normal box kick. Oh, nothing sailed. It's like that's going out the back. It's right off, right off the boot. I'm like, that's that's gone. That's when, dude, we're not playing baseball. We'll stay in the park. We'll stay in the park. Doesn't want you standing in Meijer as they, they'd watch themselves in the crowd. That's not supposed to happen. Wrong sport. Wrong idea. So I felt bad for the kid.
00:31:39
Speaker
He definitely didn't mean to do that by any means whatsoever, but he just really didn't understand how strong that win was when he did it. But to the to the actual match, unfortunately, and both sides will definitely be very unhappy with Mr. Roman plot. Why the fuck he went to the World Cup? I have no idea. No, he was terrible. God, there were three.
00:32:00
Speaker
referees that refereed this weekend that went to the World Cup from France and they all looked terrible. They were all poor decision makers and just bad judgments and i world rugby if you pick four French referees for the next World Cup I'm gonna frickin get in a plane and come beat the shit out of all of you because that was just so piss-poor this weekend
00:32:19
Speaker
I have two notes from the second half. I was about to complain about the NBC audio feed. If you're a regular listener to the pod, you've heard Jared and I complain.
00:32:35
Speaker
Every so often you'll get a game where there's no referee mic or there's something you're just not getting the right audio and I was like, oh, they did it again There's no mic on this referee and then I realized no plot has just not said a word there was like four minutes of open play and Like I think early in the second half and plot just didn't say he didn't tell the players what what conditions they were playing in like Oh, is this a tackle? Is this a mall?
00:32:58
Speaker
They're so they're busy trying to figure out what the fuck am I supposed to do? He's like no you'll do what you do I will make the decision after and it's like no it fucking matters like tell them what they're doing Yeah Because if you see something it's only and maybe it's the fact that he doesn't speak English Well, I don't know but this is something that's got to be fixed But you know the referee has to be comfortable at least talking to the players During open play. Yeah, please
00:33:25
Speaker
And then the only other note was the the both the red card at the end. Uh, yeah, that was uh, I was like, oh Is that a red card? Okay. Yeah, as soon as they saw the first replays like oh, that's straight red There's no way around it. It was it wasn't and you know, yeah, but rewind to loop pierce the other week. Yeah, it's not it's not
00:33:42
Speaker
You know, it's a soft one, but it's still a red. Unfortunately Yeah, we go through that. What do they call it going through the the protocol or whatever? It is basically the protocol and all the different points of emphasis and it's like did you lead with the elbow? Yeah, he led with the elbow Was it direct to the you know, the head or neck area? Oh, yeah, it was And sorry, dude. Yeah, you're off. You shouldn't like you shouldn't have done it it it is a little bit of a soft thread especially that that time of the game, but um, yeah
00:34:07
Speaker
Just it is what it is. That's a red. This is you know, even even plot you believe that's the thing you make him not able to make a decision It's like nope. There's no decision to be made. That's a red. That's a red. Mm-hmm Yeah, yeah, and then I mean not don't take anything away from monster that they know they had to do what they had to do Scrum pretty well, obviously Peter Armani put a good line and that was the eventual winning try. Yeah, I
00:34:32
Speaker
And they managed the game. Well, they really did. They they knew what they were in four and they just they said, you know what? We know what we have to do to make sure that you don't go home with four points. Right. They picked on Lewington a lot. Yeah. Neither neither of the wings played well in this game. Matt Gallagher definitely stood out of the three of them. It was definitely him. I thought he played fantastic. So much for, you know, us not growing our own players. Right.
00:34:59
Speaker
Oh, they buy their talent. Oh, really? What the hell do you call that right there? Thank you.
00:35:06
Speaker
Yeah, it was good stuff. Barrington played. I had a nice little break. I was like, yeah, go Barrington. Go, go, go. I think he tried for another one. It was like he just did. I was like, aw, he just got tackled. Yeah, almost had a couple of charge downs. Yeah. None of them were technically counted because they were called back, which sucked, but see a lot of V. There's a playing advantage. Yeah. Good time to have a charge down, I suppose.
00:35:30
Speaker
Uh, typically capped to the bo the two centers from the sarahsons this map brad barrett, uh, alex elzowski first will to uh, playing 100 for um european I think it was europe for laws or no for the sarahs. Sorry for sarahs brad barrett playing number 250. Well done cap. Well done boy And if i'm not mistaken, what did they say? Ben? Ben earl was it 50? Yeah, then was it 75 and they're both 21
00:35:57
Speaker
But they don't throw their own talent. No, they don't. No, they don't. We just buy buy up all the European talent that's out there. Monster win, ten to three at Tolan Park and the return friction will be very interesting. I don't know what Saracens are going to do. I'd say this will be the final point that we see maybe a semi full side. And if we don't, then you can probably count on the fact that they're packing in Europe and they're going to concentrate on the prem. That's how it is.
00:36:20
Speaker
Yeah, I think they're more towards that if they were I think if they were going to compete in europe They would have put out a full noise team this past week So i'd expect more of the same this this coming weekend in london Yeah, and it could be kind of the inverse of pro 14 where you don't have your guys travel far And you play your big guys when you're when they're at home And that could be the it could be what they're going for especially with
00:36:43
Speaker
the two home matches being the two best teams remaining, and then the away match being an unfortunate team that we're gonna talk about right now, Ospreys.
Racing's Dominance Over Ospreys
00:36:52
Speaker
Gutsy to start, I'll give him that. Gutsy to start, for sure. This was Marty Mack's first game for the Ospreys, coming over from the Chiefs, but red card. 30 seconds in. What? I was like, oh, I heard check, check. I was grabbing a drink.
00:37:12
Speaker
and i was like and i heard check check i'm like what the fuck really okay man there it is and the red card evans zero minutes in yeah i was like oh this this is gonna get bad isn't it yes it is um stray boot that he put out while he was fielding the kick not
00:37:29
Speaker
quite to the Adaglu level, Adaglu level from Wasp. But straight boot out, you gotta know that there's a wrist that you're putting out there and it goes right to Teddy Tomah's beak. I was like, oops, that's not good. Tomah was bleeding too, so it's not like it was a nothing thing. So it happened, but I will say, and you get a card, and you get a card, and you get a card, and you get a card, because there were five cards in this game.
00:37:55
Speaker
There were five cards in this game. There were four yellow cards in a red in this. Osprey's at one point had 12 on the field.
00:38:07
Speaker
Yeah. It was not good. I can see that. Scott Williams and Ella Davies. Oh, that's no good. Yeah. Scott Williams and Ella Davies got yellow cards with overlapping. Ella Davies was a penalty try on top of it. Oh. He was going for an intercept and it was one of those ones that you have to get or you know you're going to give away a penalty. And it ended up being that nobody thought that there was covering defense. So they said it was a penalty try. I was like, oh, that hurts. But you got to give them credit because they
00:38:36
Speaker
Did start this matchup. Okay, I will say that in about the first 15 minutes They were they were sucking it up and they were playing they were playing pretty well. They got over they were winning. Mm-hmm But that was that was yeah, that's really where it ended Unfortunately, it's gonna you know, if in Russell didn't know some things he did it had a nice Set a set of cross kicks that look amazing. You know, they'll those all be on highlight wheels forever. That's how it goes Finn Russell does that sometimes if
00:39:02
Speaker
I'll give uh Osprey Derskin credit. He was probably their best player and he definitely looked like he wanted to wanted this match for them because he was he was the one that got over it but he was just putting so much individual skill and effort into some stuff just trying to make things happen but man not to be
00:39:21
Speaker
uh 40 to 19 rossing over over the ospreys it's it hurts to determine gets over for two it was it was just a field day for them at some points it was really unfortunate they they had to eat a couple of their own um one of them was actually when osprey scored but uh they were able to manage those pretty well the the first one and the last one weren't a big deal
00:39:42
Speaker
Um, there was the middle three that everybody in the kitchen. Well, I was the middle middle two yellow cards in the front on the red card. Yeah, I should say. Uh, and Owen walking had to come off in this match. He was, uh, he was not looking happy. And that was one of his first matches for a while. This was his first start for them since coming back from the World Cup. I think yikes. So wrestling 40 ospreys 19. And they still have to go back to Paris to play this thing. Yeah.
00:40:09
Speaker
I would anticipate a not super strong team from harassing not say they're gonna pack it in But what I'm telling you is that they probably know that they probably don't need to put everything into it Although that could turn into your typical French performance and they lay an egg. So we'll say I think to start you'll see Some of the big names and then on the bench will be a lot of nobody nobody's yeah, that'll be how that goes and then we add a
00:40:35
Speaker
The cherry and white hosting Conact.
Gloucester vs Connacht Match Highlights
00:40:38
Speaker
This was a good one. It was a very good one. This was a good one. I mean, for what people didn't know and or think about Conact, they definitely have stepped up in Europe and shown that they got some teeth. Yeah, they belong in the game, certainly, better than some of the other teams that aren't quite showing up. Yeah, for sure.
00:41:01
Speaker
But this game also started off hot. Both teams scored in the first 10 minutes. Yep. Marshall. Full back, full back. Yeah, and Porche. And that Porche try was something else. The offload was that I think it was from Cardi to Porche. Just gets his hand right through, like just sticks his hand forward and like puts the ball off to the side. Just a little bit off to the side. And the gadgets right through the line and Porche was clear.
00:41:26
Speaker
Mm-hmm Very good. Um the uh, I Again the officiating they love the french referees. God. I cannot get enough of them. Please more please please I love to see a kick get charged down and then have it called and knock on love it. I didn't understand I was like, um, no, it's a it's a charge down. He has no control over that whatsoever. No before
00:41:49
Speaker
Ah, stupid, stupid. I mean, this game was so fucked up, though, with like that, that I was agreeing. I had like two agreements with Austin Healy, which that's what kind of level we were at right there. Yeah. But I liked I liked his idea, though, that I'm adopting it to my own needs. But but where he was saying that if there's a free kick off a scrum, they should be playing it rather than calling for the scrum again. Like get the ball to the eight. If it's your scrum, get the ball to the eight and tap and play it. If you win a defensive free kick.
00:42:19
Speaker
Yeah, okay, maybe you want to reset and change up how you're playing that's fair But on your own free kick, I do like the on your own scrum I kind of like that idea of not being able to call for another scrum. Yeah, I Don't argue with it any means whatsoever
00:42:34
Speaker
So yeah, Austin, every so often, great work. Yeah, you got one, buddy. And then it's just Cipriani, his boot. And not only that, but his interception, his intercept try. Then the easy pass to re-zam it for the finish. Let the kid run. Good. Couple of you. Couple of you.
00:42:52
Speaker
Good young wingers at gloss room. Yeah for sure Hit between him and thoroughly Yeah, and with Marshall around there, too Yeah, like they their back line is really it's the other first couple of weeks weren't weren't the best but there and Woodward still hurts right? Think about that one
00:43:09
Speaker
And they're, yeah, and right, you have? A band of hands sitting on the bench most of the times. Uh-huh. Sheesh. They got a lot of firepower back there that they're going to be able to run through. And if Cipriani's boot is this good, as good as it was, how about that? Even when the bad ones go right. I don't think, I think that was unintentional. If you say so. I think he was looking, he saw that the, he was going to kick, I think his intent before, like, I think as he dropped the ball, his intent was to kick it deep.
00:43:37
Speaker
And then he realized oh there's space out there. I'm gonna try to he changed up mid like that that was a To me it looked like an intentional boot the way he followed through if you say so Out to the wing. I'll let you continue to think that
00:43:53
Speaker
It's look it's Cipriani if he puts the boot, you know, he puts up all where he wants to put it sometimes it goes well sometimes it doesn't that but I Can't imagine him being that inaccurate with a kick. That's that's not him his style, right? But that would that just look like a total shit Except it worked out. So it worked out really well, then they ship it ahead and Can I carry it into touch or they think they get tackled into touch? Yeah
00:44:18
Speaker
Everything good happened from that and then that right after that. That was pleasure. He's try right gorgeous fucking He's even been a bit player for them, but which I don't understand. How are you having him as a bit player? Yeah, I mean, I know you have yaku krill and you have run acumen, but He needs to be in your in your starting lineup. He really does. I I don't understand how you keep him on the sideline Yeah, it doesn't make sense
00:44:42
Speaker
And then we had at the end the finally Glasgow get a penalty con actor on the yellow off of Gloucester. And the referee doesn't know. Right. Nobody knows who is the offending player. They had to go to TMO to figure out who they needed a yellow card. Yeah. I mean, in the case of no TMO, you just say to the captain, well, you have a penalty coming and it's going to be a card. And if I don't know who it is, then it's going to be you. And he's going to be like,
00:45:08
Speaker
Yeah, all right. Yeah, that's actually so I had a Fun reaction to that. I agree with that. I think that's nine times at a ten. That's the way to go, right? But then there's that Tenth time out of ten where where you're like, you know what? I actually like the captain I don't want to put him off the bit and I don't want to hurt that the whole team By taking their captain off because that's that's a little crueler than taking off, you know some of the other players so I would just find the player who had pissed me off the most and they're like
00:45:33
Speaker
You've had the most. You've been on my bad side. I don't know who the fuck offended it, but you you get to go sit down. I don't want to deal with you anymore. Bye. Bye. And again, that's that's not an often that's a one time out of 10 where you're. You know, 90 percent of the time, yeah, if you don't know who it is, yeah, fucking you, captain, get your players have that right. It's like, yeah, I mean, because it's on you right on the captain's.
00:45:58
Speaker
But lost her when 26 to 17. I don't know. I don't think they really have a shot at getting out of the group at this point, but
00:46:05
Speaker
Damn, good for them. They showed up. This is certainly a group that now, I believe, the other winners from yesterday are, what group are they in? Are they in the? They're in pool five. Oh, balls. Never mind. They're with Montpellier to lose. Yeah. Oh, OK. So yeah, they won't. So that group. It's possible. That game was dog shit. We'll get to that in a little bit. Yeah. But then, sale Exeter.
Exeter's Start vs Sale's Missed Opportunity
00:46:33
Speaker
That was a pretty decent Exeter.
00:46:35
Speaker
Played very well to start, obviously. The score was 22, 13 at halftime. Sale eventually fought back. AJ McGinty was sick, and they missed him. For one reason and one reason only, and there's no other reason that it needed to be his boot. Yeah. Because Robert Superior was not. Nope. He was absolutely no good. Even his kicks to touch were like. Not good. Not good. No. And he missed a couple. I mean, if they have AJ and he's hitting his boot as he usually does,
00:47:03
Speaker
say I win this game, especially with the comeback effort they put in. Akravinder Mervo has shut me up a little bit at least because he's looked pretty, he looked really good and loose, he's still dog shit in the lineup. Yeah. But he looked really good and loose, got a really lucky bounce off the charge down, bounced off Johnny Hill and he was able to go jump, be Johnny on the spot and grab it and run it up. There's nobody in front of him. So he's like, Oh, hey, look at that. Nice wide open field. Thank you.
00:47:28
Speaker
But LCD was not to be outdone. He got two. Did he get two as well? Just one. Just one. But yeah, Ocker got two. But still, yeah, LCD was not to be outdone. Still proving he's probably the superior Ocker. Yeah. Let's be real about this. Stuart Hogg. I mean, unfortunate. Fortunate, but unfortunate. Brilliant chip and chase. But oh, man, he just rolls over and ends up getting an HIA. And he fails the HIA. So he has to come off.
00:47:55
Speaker
That's a terrible way to leave a cake. Yeah, it is. I mean leave it on a high note, but it's first. Yeah. Yeah. Oopsie. So that was no, that was no blame on that one. The, um, I put up a, so funny thing, put up a Twitter poll the other day. Sure. I voted in it. And it was,
00:48:16
Speaker
who would, who would you, in the back three for sale. There are two guys that I think absolutely 100% belong there and there's one spot up for grabs and I was curious what everybody else thought that who should go there and I put two options, Marlon Yard.
00:48:35
Speaker
or Denny Salimona and Denny Salimona won by a landslide. I had 21 votes. Wow. So 20 odd votes and it's three quarters out of those votes said Denny Salimona should be in that back line. And I agree with that three quarters right there. Marlon Yard is not a good defender. He's an awful defense. He is a liability.
00:49:01
Speaker
For sure. So if you have a good defensive winger that can also attack, you are so screwed because he's going to, they're going to eat mile and yard for breakfast, or you just attack that side with your fullback and they go. Yeah. In this case, they put Jack Noah on, on yard. That'll do it. That'll do. Yeah. That'll work. Tom Curry gave away a penalty try early on in this one, um, sale, uh, Exeter had a break and he was,
00:49:23
Speaker
very offsides and made the tackle before anybody else could do anything. There was no ruck, but there was an offsides line, and he made the tackle from behind the offsides line. It stopped a surefire try from Nick White. I was like, you are going to the naughty bidding, big guy. Henry Slade made a huge tackle late when sale was trying to attack and basically cut the pass off. It was kind of a gamble.
00:49:52
Speaker
But Henry Slade is very good. So he knew what he was doing. That's one way to put it. Yeah. And the gamble paid off, and he was able to cut off the attack. And actually, we were able to play it out from there. The Simmons brothers were good in defense. Both made huge tackles to stop tries. They rolled guys into touch. And one of them was Yard. I don't remember. I think the other one was Van Rensberg. I think that was Joe Simmons that made Van Rensberg a miss. I was like, dude.
00:50:20
Speaker
Yeah, okay, sam simmons was on was on yard I think but yeah, they they both played very well, um Exeter seemed to have found their european formula at least for the knockout stages or in the pool stages. Excuse me Um, so good on them go on, you know, rob axers crew. That's that's something we've been waiting on for this team to come good. Uh, we'll see if they We're gonna at least assume that they're probably gonna get out to the knockout stage from this point I mean i'd be perfectly happy if exeter and and glasco
00:50:49
Speaker
Uh, um, that's right. Let's go. I glossed her alongside them decide to really make a push for the uh, the champions cup. Um, uh, knockout stages i'd be perfectly happy with them focusing on that. That would be great. Yeah. So, um, and Northampton actually do that. Um, I'm sure Bristol would be too. Right. Yeah. Like you said, we think they're going for the, uh, the challenge cup.
00:51:13
Speaker
Yeah, I I think that'd be a great thing at Ashton gate for them to bring home a European trophy That'd be amazing. So if they if they get that far, I will definitely be cheering for them. That's for sure So exit are 22 sale 20 and the return picture goes back to Sandy Park. It's gonna be fun
00:51:30
Speaker
And then this supposed dog shit match god to end that and the weekend 23 9 to lose I even just turning it on and seeing this orange and red all that.
Toulouse's Victory over Montpellier
00:51:44
Speaker
Yeah, that kid's terrible. Good care That kid was it was it was I had seen for five seconds and I was already done No, no, this these these two teams. No, I need to take some like drama mean or something. That's It's bad
00:51:58
Speaker
There's but but that that's really the most interesting thing about this match. Um, that's not a good thing into mac getting over twice Good for him. Hooray. We like roman into back. Yes, we do friend of the pod. Um, he might not know it But don't ask him just just take it from up
00:52:17
Speaker
Uh, but you know, this is um, Montpellier kicking for points the same kind of throwing a premiership game at um, Not something's gonna work. Not something's gonna work. Um, and they should should have known that going in Um, not much structure to this I have two french sides do tell I know so it's all just a bunch of like kind of dog shit, you know began that like
00:52:40
Speaker
Kitty soccer It's all like six or seven guys within five meters of the first receiver and it's like you realize that's not how they're Fucking that over like none of you are gonna help him out like yeah, and you're not gonna unlock the defense that way yeah, so Just you know not much else to talk about but but into Mac Really really putting forth a great effort on his end
00:53:05
Speaker
That's not to diminish the other players. From Toulouse. From Toulouse. And from Montpellier, but just, you know. He was it. He was really it. Ramos was a hell of a lot of fun to watch. Eugé was practically non-existent, it felt like. And looking at the stats, 6 carries 23 meters.
00:53:27
Speaker
Yeah, okay. He's practically non-existent. Yeah, there you go. Meddialed was very good. Um, he he was he was uh, you know with his uh mutton chops was Those those things you gotta live on forever. Love him That'll love him. I mean this was basically, you know, he could go through the list of all these players, you know, especially kano too um old man putting in a hell of a shift this is just uh to lose using their having the talent advantage so you look at all things being equal you have a very good very good referee
00:53:56
Speaker
Um, but that these two teams didn't really deserve Um, kind of free loop here is no it was wayne was barnsey barnsey. Oh did it did a very good job Yeah, i'm sure he did although with those two clubs, you know two french sides didn't really kind of there's that there's that again rugby culture barrier where the french sides I don't think they really liked the way he managed them Was constantly talking to them and telling them what they could and couldn't do they're not used to that So it's it's a hard adjustment for them to make right?
00:54:23
Speaker
Um, but this was just, I'm sorry to lose using their talent and saying, you know, our 15 or 23 players are just better than your 23 players. Right. And that's how they want not, not much else to say. You can't really say it was much tactics aside from the penalty kicks instead of tries for Montpellier, but
00:54:42
Speaker
There is as it is very few tactics to talk about in this match, right? All right. Well Let's lose 23. I'll pay you a nine to lose Probably still getting out of their group like point. Yeah at this point that you know, the Gloucester will probably give them a run on the on the flip but We'll see about that. We'll see other than that. I don't think there's much competition for them in that that bracket. I
00:55:08
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. So that is round three in the books. Let's go to round four. And the pick them, the pick them. They're separated by one game now. Yeah. A couple of brain farts this weekend. Quins and Ulster at the stoop to open stuff this weekend.
00:55:29
Speaker
Uh, I think Quinn's are going to get a little bit of, uh, uh, revenge for, for last week. Uh, I think, I think, uh, I think Ulster are going to know that they played with fire and they're going to rock up a little bit better. All right. So I'm going to go with Ulster, especially cause I think they control this group now. I'm not mistaken. Ulster does. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So they control this group. So I'm sure Claremont has a loss to Harlequin's. Yeah. Uh, uh, to them, to Ulster. Oh, to Ulster. Sorry. So, oh, Harlequin's have eaten bath. Sorry. I, yeah. Braveheart on my end.
00:55:59
Speaker
That's right. It happens. Give you three guesses on this one. The home team. I'm going to go with wrestling. Just a thought. Connick Gloucester.
00:56:15
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Hmm, back to the back to Galway. We'll see how this goes. I'm not a big believer in Conact myself. I know you're not. Hmm. You know what? They liked that place. So I'm going to go with Conact. They didn't play better this match. They didn't play well in round two. So we'll see. They also haven't played at home since the first round. So we'll see how that goes. I think they'll play a little bit better at home. I'm still going with Gloucester.
00:56:42
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Fair enough. Well, I'm definitely going with the home team in the next one Keep back and I'm eventually it's gonna work even after the 28 nothing. Yeah Yeah, I think that goes back to us talking about them rocking up at home. Yeah Montpellier Toulouse I'm gonna go with Toulouse ions again and
00:57:08
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Moi OC. Mm hmm. Saracens Monster. Oh, goodness. I
00:57:16
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I see you trying to think with your heart. I see it. I see it. I see it. Don't do it. I know. I need to I need to pick Munster. Yeah. Yep. You do because Munster is going to win because I'm pretty sure Sari's impacted it. Yeah. Well, if Northampton can't get this done at home, I don't think they're going to be able to get it down the yard. Yes, unfortunately. So I'm going to go. I'm going to go with the boys in blue and Lancer.
00:57:42
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And Glasgow and Laro show while concert on the flip side of that if Glasgow can get it done on the road I'm definitely not confident they can get it done at home. So I'm gonna go with the Warriors And same same song different verse here exit or sale I'm gonna back at Sandy Park eggs are gonna rock up and they're gonna put sales Champions Cup hopes to bid
00:58:05
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Yeah, and I think we're going to do the same thing for the last one too, right? Claremont Beth, yeah. Claremont wins on the road, coming home. Looking to get out of the group in some fashion, whether it's they win the group and beat Ulster, or they come second runners up one way or the other. So our only disagreements here are Quinn's and Ulster. I've got Quinn's, you've got Ulster. Right, and Connick and Gloucester, which was the last one, actually. No, you picked, I picked something else last time. I don't remember what hammerhead picked me up. Yeah, we did Glasgow.
00:58:35
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Glasgow and La Rochelle, yeah, so that's what it was. Well, lesson learned on that one at least. I haven't learned my lesson on the other one, but that's okay. We'll figure that out. Yeah, so that'll be week four, and we will pretty much have an idea of who's where at the end of this round. That pretty much will set, everything's kind of hashed out at first. We'll at least know a few teams that are definitely not in. We'll know who's in contention.
00:58:59
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