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Season 3-Episode 17- Seeking Sanctions...Or Not (Super Rugby Round 3 & Premiership Round 12)
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It's those American rugby boneheads coming at you with all the goods. On this episode we have a look at the Champions Cup draw from this past week and who could have a breezy path to the semifinal, and who might be battered by the time they get there. We chat about the potential Lions Tour for the women's game, which is only a good thing in our book. Those wondering about the order of operations for the Watchathon, we uncover the schedule for next Saturday-Sunday for our viewing, get your donations in ASAP. Of course, we cover the league action from both New Zealand and England and we even sneak in a good bye to good old DC, Dan Carter, oh what a man, oh what a career. There's Start or Sit and all the banter in between, crack one open and tune in with us.
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Introduction to the Podcast
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Innx. My name's Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glasser. Let's roll. Yeah, we got... We can't have anticipation.
Rugby Job Market Concerns
00:00:19
Speaker
We got, um, potentially somebody losing their job this weekend. We'll see. I don't know. I don't think it'll be this weekend. I think if they've lost their job that they've, they will lose their job. They've already lost it at this point. I think so too, but yeah, we'll see.
Coaches on the Hot Seat
00:00:36
Speaker
Anyway, turn around from this, from this six nations though. Remember when we, when we, way back when we had our preview show with, with, uh, James and, um, we're talking about coaches on the hot seat and, and,
00:00:48
Speaker
Yeah, there were there's one seat that got my hell of luck, like the hottest seat is now ice cold.
00:00:54
Speaker
The second hottest seat is doing okay. It was all right. They won the right game. Right. And then the third hottest seat would have to be at this point, Eddie. Yeah, and it's hot. It's fired up, so. Yeah, it is white hot, my friend. Red hot, whatever you want to call it. It's just fascinating.
Podcast Engagement Promotion
00:01:18
Speaker
Yeah, really, yeah, crazy beer. All right, let's drink.
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00:01:40
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Between you and I, yep. I know some people that will attest to that. By our friend, the fans here, we geek at coffee. He's totally worth it especially on weekends like this where we have a shit ton of action. So go ahead and get yourself his advice and make sure that you pay it forward to him and by buying him said coffee.
TRM Upgrades and Causes
00:02:06
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TRM upgrades. Restart record is a huge thing that they support and it's something that obviously Ben and I believe, and I know it, it does good. It doesn't do everything that it should, but it still does some good. So it's definitely worth putting, putting your upgrade in there and getting, getting some support for those guys for sure. Okay. Here we go. Black Lives Matter guys.
Racial Discussions and Reactions
00:02:27
Speaker
And what not, but no, no news in that this week. Yeah. No. Oh, so here's a funny thing. Um,
00:02:36
Speaker
My wife, she's doing a PhD program and she's reading a book for the program called White Fragility. I've heard of this book. She will nudge me at night and be like, can you believe this shit? I'm like, I'm not reading it, Jess. She's like, fuck, yeah, that's true. We do that. Then there's Piers Morgan.
00:03:04
Speaker
Oh God, what a moron. And she's like, there it is. I played her the video. And it's so funny because it's a white man who's been racist as fuck and somebody who's been telling people, you know, oh, whatever, it's just a little racist and get over it or, you know, it's shit like that. Casual racism, so racism. Right. And suddenly someone
00:03:31
Speaker
decides to speak to him in a way that's just kind of saying what, not even, not even negatively, just describing his behavior, not even calling him any, like any names, not being derogatory, just describing his behavior. And he's like, I'm out. And that's how fragile we can, like, we white men are. That's true. Just be like,
00:04:00
Speaker
how is just described, you know, you're not supposed to call me on my shit. Like, that's, that's why. Are you kidding me?
00:04:08
Speaker
Everybody gets called on their shit, including the two of us that are on this podcast. Like, right? Yeah, everybody gets called on
Historical Racism and Activism
00:04:14
Speaker
their shit. That's and that is how life works. Doesn't all you're never going to be comfortable with it. That's just a fact. Although that the problem is, though, that's that's that's the way it's been. So that's why the Black Lives Matter movement is important, because like, yeah, white men have been getting away with all of this shit before and up till now. And we're
00:04:33
Speaker
The whole point is that it's now no longer acceptable. Like you said, the casual racism, like it's not like, you know, it, it was justifiable for years with, well, that's just the way it is. So what am I supposed to do about it? You know, kind of thing or like, and it's like, what are you supposed to do about it? Now we know what to do about it. Exactly. Don't do that. Yeah.
00:04:52
Speaker
Now, everybody's well aware of what to do about it, but some don't want to do it because they're like, no, that's not how I want to do it. I'm like, well, then you're just a racist dick. All of this stems back from the interview with the Royals. Well, not really the Royals, I guess, anymore.
00:05:13
Speaker
It's so funny how I like, personally, I totally had no, no, not a care in the world. I thought it was going to be, you know, the normal blah, blah drama. And maybe there would be like a bombshell or two. So I didn't pay it any mind. I didn't watch it. A lot of us didn't. But holy fuck. Yeah, that was not something I expected. I was like, um, excuse me, what?
00:05:34
Speaker
Yeah. You sent me the great Black Panther meme from Michael, that had Michael Beach. What's up, auntie? Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's funny. I had seen that before. I guess I saw it that night and like didn't realize I was like, well, that's okay. I don't quite get it. And then I saw it again. I guess it was the last night or whatever. And I was like, Oh, that's fucking. That makes sense now. Now it's hit me. I got it. I see what's happening. That's good stuff. That's funny.
00:06:03
Speaker
Yeah, so no room for racism, guys. And just because we say the words Black Lives Matter, it doesn't mean that other discrimination isn't important either. So just let's address that. Obviously, the other thing that we can relate to this is International Women's Day and the treatment of it by some people, which was ridiculous. And yeah, that doesn't mean that, you know,
00:06:29
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the discrimination against people that are gay, if they don't choose to be gay, they are gay. You are who you are. People that are gay, people that are trans, that does not dismiss that. It doesn't make one less than the other. It's all, we all like, and that's actually, it's funny with, that's the theme that got
00:06:55
Speaker
Um, Fred Hampton killed, right? Cause that, um, if, um, it's out now the, uh, was it, um,
00:07:04
Speaker
Um, black Judas in the, I can't remember what it is. And I can't, I can't remember the title. I'm sorry. Um, I wasn't even thinking about it before this until this hit you. Yeah. Um, but Fred Hampton was killed because he tries to form the rainbow coalition, right? It wasn't that, Oh, you're okay. Yeah. You're just black Panthers. Okay. Well, you can deal with that. It wasn't until he's like, Hey, let's get gay people over here. And Hey, you know, let's get lesbians. Let's get women's rights. Let's do like.
00:07:29
Speaker
let's if we all band together we can make a difference and that's when they had them killed because like no no no we can't have a difference so but that's obviously it means it's important for us to all band together and and so yeah when we do the black lives matter thing um it's not just about black lives it's about equality we're looking for equality and discrimination to be eliminated um certainly turn certainly let's get rid of it in in the in the public light it's not okay in the private light either but
00:07:59
Speaker
At least, you know, people don't see so many examples of saying this is okay, because that's really not okay.
Charity Event Announcement
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Speaker
Say, you know what we're doing next weekend? I think we're staying up for 24 hours. Yeah. It's going to be fun. It's going to attempt to be fun. Yeah. So we're going to have a lot of fun. We got our schedule more or less hammered out. We're missing one or two gaps. So we're going to start with Scotland and Italy.
00:08:28
Speaker
We'll move on to Ireland and England after that. So somewhere around halfway between that, we're going to switch over our big telly to France and Wales. And then we'll put Ireland and England on a smaller telly. And we'll do it so we can keep watching that. After that, we're going to do Newcastle and Watts from the night before in the prem. After that match, we're going to go over to the women. We could watch Saracen's and Exeter.
00:08:55
Speaker
Beloved United States Eagles are going to be championing our allegiances. Yeah. Yeah. No shit. Gabby Cantorna is just doing an amazing job steering that ship at Exeter. So and Kate Zachary is leading the line. So what else is new? So the two of them are doing awesome. So we're going to, we're going to tune in and watch them. Um, that'll be around six 20 Eastern.
00:09:18
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830 Eastern, the Freejacks and the
Upcoming Rugby Matches
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Guiltini's will kick off. Oh boy. I think the Freejacks are going to get tongued right now. The team, the LA are putting together is very good. It is very good. But the Freejacks are also pretty damn good. I think the Freejacks will be very good this year. There's a lot of solid pieces in there and I'm really into what they've done so far. So I'm looking forward to this.
00:09:46
Speaker
hurricanes chiefs that night in true super rugby fashion, middle of the night, we're gonna, we're gonna watch that will be from the previous previous from that morning here, previous night for everybody else. So that'll be that'll be something we tune into. And then as we
00:10:03
Speaker
turn over into the wee hours of Sunday morning. Quinn's and Gloucester will be keeping his company as we try to drag ourselves through the tough hours here. Bath and Worcester as well, we'll be following that.
US Eagles Players in Exeter
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Speaker
After that, we'll probably pick one of the two broadcasts from the MLR that are going to be next weekend. I don't remember which the two of them are off the top of my head. I know Seattle's one of them, so maybe we'll go with that one, who are the defending champs, obviously.
00:10:29
Speaker
Blues Crusaders will finally will be something that we can entertain ourselves well with a bit of coffee and maybe some breakfast. And then right before the live match the next day, we're gonna round off what's left of the prem with Exeter and Lester.
Details of Charity Event
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Speaker
And we will be watching Northampton and Bristol at 11 the next morning.
00:10:49
Speaker
I kind of, you know, we were talking about this right before we went on. And I kind of like this idea of watching Bath versus Worcester at like the... Three o'clock in the morning. Some ungodly hour in the morning on Sunday morning, because it'll remind me a lot of my college Saturday nights hanging out with guys and not doing much scoring.
00:11:12
Speaker
That is a fact. That is definitely a fact. I feel that. So yeah, this should be fine. And the whole point of this is obviously, we're raising money for the Greater Boston Food Bank. Let's get us to our goal. We're halfway. We're more than halfway. So let's get to the goal, guys. Let's go. Come on. We got, we got drag, drag over the line and we can get this and we'll get the YouTube up. Um, um,
00:11:35
Speaker
I'm going to put some feelers out there to people that maybe want to hop on a separate computer and do zoom with us. That way we can have some help. They don't have to stay on forever, obviously, but you know, a couple hours help would be very, very appreciated. Just the same. So we'll do we'll be doing that. So it's gonna be fun. And obviously, it's all for Greater Boston Food Bank. We want we want people to, to have access to food that don't and there's a lot of people that are going to be
00:12:03
Speaker
suffering, have been suffering and that will continue to be because of a lot of reasons, but COVID being the primary reason at the moment. So that's what we're going to work on there. Um, some, there was player movement, but there was a lot of just like staying put
Champions Cup Predictions
00:12:19
Speaker
in this. Yeah, a lot of new contracts signed a lot with the same club, same club. Corratus is staying with glosser. Um,
00:12:27
Speaker
Pretty much all of Luster is staying. Yeah, like a good chunk of Luster are sticking around. But they're going to get another Van Vic over at Luster. Are they related or is that just a? No, that's a very common name there. All right. And then they also are bringing over another common, well, not an uncommon name, but definitely a relation, Eli Snaiman.
00:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, are you brother? Yeah, that's gonna be a unit over in over in the UK and Ireland. Yep. Yep. Well, that'll be interesting how that goes. Champions Cup draw.
00:13:04
Speaker
This was interesting. I wanted, I was really curious as to how it's going to happen. So, uh, looking at the pools, um, I'll run through or looking at the brackets. Cause they drew both, um, round to 16 and then who's going to play who, depending on the winner, the winner for a quarterfinal as well. Um, the, the first one I'm looking at right here, Exeter Leon, Lenster too long. That's going to be tough. Whoever comes out of that wins whoever gets to that semi-final might win the tournament.
00:13:34
Speaker
Or they might lose the tournament because they got that might be too damn exhausted. That's true. That's true. If you can come out of that, you're probably in pretty good shape to get tested. Yeah, you're probably winning though. Yeah. And then it was the teams like, I don't know who's going to beat those teams, but it's true. And then there's this one with Gloucester, La Rochelle, Scarlett's and sale.
00:13:57
Speaker
Whoever wins that is going to feel very lucky that they drew, got drawn into that. Honestly, uh, doesn't matter who it is. I think Laura shells probably the team that takes it, but Scarlett's could do it. I'm not sure. I mean, it's champions cup. So it is. You never know. They're both probably out after the first round. Yeah. I think so too. Um, yeah, this is, and this is the other one that was that kind of caught my eye was Claremont Munster and Toulouse.
00:14:25
Speaker
I mean, a couple of months ago that would seem like wasps would be dangerous, but it's true. They're not what they are, right? They aren't what they were. Well, it was. Yeah, with with with Robson back and a couple other guys, we'll see who else comes back. Barbary's on his way back, it sounds like true. That'll be a big help. We'll see that that could be that could turn into a hell of a belter. Jack Willis is not on his way back. And that's no, that's really that's very problematic. At least we saw Thomas Young this weekend.
00:14:54
Speaker
Um, and then the, um, Bordeaux Bristol rematch of challenge cup last year in the semi-final. Didn't they, didn't they play in the opening round or am I remembering that last? Okay. Nope. It was a Bordeaux played North. Oh, that's what it was. Right. Yeah. Uh, they were in England, but they're playing this one in France. All right.
00:15:20
Speaker
Very interesting. I don't think they'll have Red Roger back yet though. Not quite. Everybody else should be ready to go. That still could be enough. Rossing and Edinburgh are the potential two that the winner of that will face.
00:15:37
Speaker
I honestly believe it's Rossing's bracket to lose there. Yeah, I think so too. You know, as much as I want to say Bristol, I don't think I'm, I'm not quite that foolish. So that's all, that's all. So be interesting to see what comes out of those. Certainly there's potential for a new champion, but there's also potential to see someone repeat in there as well. There's a, there's a lot of, you know, I hope we see a new champion, but that's not,
00:16:07
Speaker
I think it'll be, if we see a new champion, I think it'll be French. It'll be either Claremont or Rossing. You don't think Leinster have a shot?
00:16:14
Speaker
Well, that's not going to be a new champion. Like, Oh, I meant like from Oh, the wreath. Yeah. Not a repeat. Yeah. No, that's fair enough. Um, now we'll, so we'll see how that goes. Mostly I don't want to exit or to repeat really. Well, no, that was the statement I had meant to make without making it. There you go. I didn't words. Yeah. Uh, women's lions tour could be on the cards.
Women's Lions Tour Speculation
00:16:39
Speaker
Love that.
00:16:39
Speaker
I am all about that. I am all about that. Let's just make that very clear. I am very cool with that. Because what I'm hearing about this potential tour, would that be that instead of doing the same tour that, say, the men's lines would do, they would go to the US instead of probably like South Africa.
00:17:01
Speaker
I think their opposition would be different in terms because you have to look at who the best teams in the world outside of the British Isles and Ireland are. Right. And, you know, you don't want to go Europe, so you don't want to go France. Right. So after that, it leaves, you know, some of the teams in the Southern Hemisphere or US and Canada. Yeah. Oh, yeah. US, Canada would be an excellent. And then maybe you just maybe alternate it instead of doing three different like they go to New Zealand.
00:17:26
Speaker
once and then they do US and Canada. Yeah, that would be very interesting. Be very interesting. So yeah, either way, I'm all about it. Let's do it. Make it happen. Make it happen. Make it happen for sure. And we saw this past weekend, it was a really good match for the for the Exeter women that they can't throw in a hit at the death. And then she had, I think she had the
00:17:53
Speaker
Did she have the game-saving talent as well? Yeah, she did. She's a monster. She is a monster. One of those Penn State women's products right there. That's a program I know. They broke Jess's nose.
00:18:09
Speaker
How? Stop doing that. Yeah, it was funny. We were playing with two different clubs, and I went to go play against the Penn State men out in State College. And Penn State went to play Keystone out in Eastern PA. That's where she was playing for. And yeah, she got her nose broken. I had a long drive back. And she's like, I'm not going to go to the hospital till you get back. And I'm like, I'm fine.
00:18:33
Speaker
I'm on a rugby trip. I'm drinking. This is not a good idea. The shit kicked out of me. No, no, no. You're going to go to the hospital now. Go to the hospital now. It's going to be bad. I can meet you there, but I am not going to be able to drive you there. That's for sure. That's what fucking Penn State. They're good. Yeah, they're good. A bunch of beasts. OK, so really, and I squeaked this in there last minute.
00:18:57
Speaker
The question is that, it needs to be asked, what happened between ESPN here in the US and either Sanzor or Rugby Australia?
ESPN's Rugby Broadcast Confusion
00:19:05
Speaker
Because somehow, someway, with all the people that just got access to Super Rugby AU, the US and Canada still got left out. And there were obviously a lot more than that, but those are the two markets that are in my head.
00:19:20
Speaker
I don't know. I think is it only super rugby out here? Oh, that's on world. That's on the road. We pass rugby pass or whatever. The super rugby. Arturo is on rugby pass now. Okay. What rugby is going to stream the super rugby AU because it's free because it's free to air TV in Australia. That's not a big deal. Right. So I.
00:19:42
Speaker
If this is ESPN fucking blocking this thing, I'm going to be going down to Mickey's place and fricking starting to stomp on some people's, you know, what's cause that is bullshit, man. That's not cool. Uh, yeah, I don't know. I can only imagine what may have happened, but measuring contest. Yeah. You think it would be pretty,
00:20:01
Speaker
Simple to just get it. Yeah at this point. It feels like there's somebody that's just doing this on purpose, you know With this on purpose. Yeah, you're not wrong You're not wrong. Oh man. Okay Let's go. Let's talk about the actual rugby. Yeah the rugby the actual rugby. Hey How's it going chiefs
00:20:25
Speaker
You know what? It's actually not going that bad. Chiefs and Chiefs Islanders. This was a really fun match to watch. Oh, it certainly was. The first 30 minutes, the Chiefs were in control. Yeah, even the first 40, they were mostly in control. And then they just like.
00:20:42
Speaker
you know, shit creeped in. That's the first match, you know, crap. And, um, general Nurekki happened. Did he ever, Oh my God. That was a thing that happened. 192 meters. Fuck.
00:20:58
Speaker
on like try assist and three tries. That is a day that is a day that is a day most people that's a day that's like most people's like you know half season right there that they would just go for. Jared they took him out for 10
Match Reviews and Critiques
00:21:11
Speaker
minutes. I know that's the scary part. They took him out for 10 minutes. Like they would you what?
00:21:19
Speaker
Yeah, that's the terrifying part. What do you do? He did all that and he still missed 10 minutes. Right. But here's the thing from the from the Chiefs end of this is that you had. Oh, shoot, what was it? You had a guy put that those numbers up on you. You had, you know, what was it? Three tries to try assist along the plot and you lose by only 16.
00:21:48
Speaker
Yeah, that could be worse. That could be worse. You know, one guy responsible, essentially responsible for four tries, and he could have had more actually, there was one of the prompts had dick hands, sweet offload. But yeah, like, you know, Chiefs actually, you know, like you said, they controlled the first half,
00:22:09
Speaker
boy demac played really well i'm shocked um but yeah he found some gaps um got himself over gated so yeah not bad i'll take it it wasn't as it wasn't as bad as it could have been i that defense they got every time they got beat they got beat on the outside which is such a step up from from the beginning of last year where it was just going through the middle hey we're gonna you know first phase boom gone like
00:22:32
Speaker
Not even an attempt at a tackle, just, oh, well, we missed. Like there was actual real defense being played. I liked what it was called. So I'm pleased. And let's not dismiss the fact that Norecki also made these guys look silly last week, the Crusaders as well. So don't forget that as well.
00:22:52
Speaker
and play a little bit. So it's not a, yeah, it's not as though the chief Stevens, um, made him look good because they were bad. No, no, no. He's just that good. They weren't good enough to stop him that day, you know, first match. So right. I'm I, I don't, I can't imagine.
00:23:09
Speaker
having a more positive feeling after losing the round one match by 16 points. Right. Hard to really scoff at it. Also, they're not going to beat the Crusaders, so it doesn't really matter anyway. Let's all have fun out there, boys. See some good rugby. That's where I am with them. Yeah, and to his credit, and as much as he's gotten shit for it,
00:23:33
Speaker
Sam Kane had 15 tackles. He only missed one. He only missed one. Yeah. I liked what I saw from Sam Kane and that's the difference from, from last year too. So right forward to, uh, and yeah, and Bashir wasn't in, I mean, he's a little bit long when Bashir comes back. Right. But when, but when he comes back, that's going to help their defense that much more. Oh yeah. Absolutely. So yeah, that's a fine. And
00:23:57
Speaker
Yeah. And they still have danger men out wide it that weren't playing in this match. So, yep. Yeah. No cheese. Tia Tia. This match either. There's, there's goodness in the, in the wings. If I were the hounders, I think I'm okay with the Mitch hunt and, and, uh, and Josh Giovanni 10, 15 combo.
00:24:13
Speaker
whichever one, whichever one you want to put in either position, I think they're going to be just fine. So to their credit, that was a good call by Tony Brown and their coaching staff. So it's a bit of a Joe Norecki show for the Highlanders, 23.39 for the Highlanders, but still good stuff.
00:24:35
Speaker
from, from both teams. No doubt. Not so, not so complimentary on the other side. I was unable to watch this match. So yeah. Crusaders and hurricanes. Really? I don't want to spend a ton of time on it. This was a lot of ill discipline from the hurricanes. I was unhappy with the artist of a yellow card because it was zero warning and just, you know,
00:25:05
Speaker
O'Keeffe being O'Keeffe. Just all right. Yeah, we're going to do this. I was like, Oh, is he missed the yellow on Moody last week? I don't know. I guess so. Making up for it by going the other way. What the fuck? That's not how it works. Yeah. And, you know, I was watching. There was there was a lot of just beautiful rugby and there was a lot of miscues from the hurricanes. They had some good stuff. So let's see where I see Lamape both combined for a nice looking break. It should have been. It deserved better to be finished.
00:25:35
Speaker
Billy Proctor is very good. I think he's better than his brother. Honestly, he was, he came in second half. He played, I think he played in the back three actually. And he was throwing balls around like seeds. Like he was just putting it on, on a string. Not every time, cause very few people can do that, but very, very good stuff from him. Um, again, that's it. Jordan came into 10 at half.
00:26:01
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Jackson garden. Bashup almost had a distance try, but too many fast crusaders. I think one end up being the one to catch him, but Reese was there and I was like, yeah, he's not going to outrun all these guys. Yeah. Way too far to go. Poor guy. We saw the return of both heavily and will Jordan and he's not going to be talked about a lot.
00:26:28
Speaker
but he should be. And I think he's going to be, I think he'll be talked about more as we go, but not necessarily after this match, but Luster flying a new who has improved. Like he is a monster and he is just, he's picking on people for fun at this point. He's a, he's a big boy to be playing out there on the wing. He knows it. And he's just doing whatever the fuck he feels like. Like, you know, the numbers don't all, all, always back them up, but he had 10 carries. So that, that tells you if he wants the ball, you know, he's just like, yep, give it to me.
00:26:57
Speaker
And for a big man, three defenders beaten is no, uh, yeah. And yeah. And the, and the hurricanes unfortunately lost a soft move to a shoulder injury. I don't know how long he's going to be out for right now, but, um, that's, that was a huge blow. That's rough. We could tell he did pick up the try though. One of the tries. Yeah. I mean, it's not bad. You have Ricatelli and.
00:27:16
Speaker
Yeah, if he goes back to form, I'm not worried. If he doesn't come back to form, I'm totally fucking shitting myself right now. Week off for the Hurricanes, licked their wounds after the first two matches and getting mostly embarrassed, really. It was some good stuff, but still, like, and you see it in the tight five, like I said, it's really hard to pick out who's going to be the standout in that right now. I don't know who it is. Yeah, especially if I was out that he was. Yeah, he was it.
00:27:43
Speaker
Dane Coles hopefully comes back soon after the break. Good Lord, they need him badly. So yeah, so hurricanes 33. Excuse me, Crusaders 33, I wish. Hurricane 16. And that's that. That is that. Oh, all right. Let's go to the problem. Friday night, we will let's dive into Western London Irish. This was interesting to see the least. It takes a lot to get me to root for Lester.
00:28:10
Speaker
It takes a lot. Yeah. Well, London Irish are just playing like a bunch of idiots. They were. And Barnes just didn't. It started early and Barnes just didn't do anything about it. And then it got worse. And then it's like, well, then what the fuck do you think? Like all the little shit after the whistle, when Barnes, he just goes, well, I'm just going to sit here and stand up, like, you know, wait till you boys are ready to carry on, you know, like reasonable adults. It's like, that's not how it works. If that's how it works, they will continue to do it.
00:28:39
Speaker
That's never how it works. Not even close, man. And then it turned into, you know, reds and yellows and all sorts of colors. Yeah. I have a team, uh, fucking importantly with the, with the yellow at the end. He's got the yellow at the end. Right. Yeah. It was, it was not great. Um,
00:28:59
Speaker
Yeah, that team had deserved the red. There's no doubt about it. He did. He did. And he apologized. He sent an apology tweet that night. And he didn't contest, which is why he got three weeks and we'll get to the other one later. But that's, yeah, I mean, that's fair. Three weeks is fair for what he did.
00:29:17
Speaker
Yep. It was bad. No, it was just so it was really silly. It was really silly. Yeah. From them, from him. Excuse me. I will say this is there's a little bit of grit about one in Irish that we didn't see last year or even the previous year they were in the league. So good on them. Yeah. Because honestly, yeah, you know, this the score line flatters them a little bit. They got two tries very quickly.
00:29:45
Speaker
Um, but again, to their credit, they realized what was on the table and they went and got it. And that was impressive as well as the credit to them. Yeah, that was super impressive to, uh, um, yeah. Like to, to, to rock up and say, and, and even the, um, the comms were like, well, if they just wasn't it like, if they just kick a kick three here, um, that gets them what they need. And they're like, well, no, let's go for two points. Fuck. Yeah. Fuck one.
00:30:11
Speaker
Right. Right. Right. And I can appreciate that. You know, the try gave them the first bonus point and they knew that that was it. And then the, obviously the second try gave them the second bonus point. So it leaves them in the top six.
00:30:25
Speaker
to their credit. Declan Kidney should be proud of his bunch despite you're going to have bad days. You're going to have bad days, but if you can rock up and you can still smother out two points from a fixture like this, that's character. That's something that I would feel very happy with if I was Declan Kidney.
00:30:45
Speaker
Good on the boys from the exiles. Lester are no longer the pushover they used to be either. So obviously, Steve boy, it's got something going on there. Yeah, there's no tough out. There's no easy outs anymore. And this right now I really believe that even Worcester who are Worcester are paying the ass to beat. Yeah, we saw that too. Right, exactly. So there's that. On the other side of the Friday night sale in Newcastle,
00:31:15
Speaker
Newcastle just weren't good enough. No. Period. I mean, there was sale outclassed him. By far. There's, there's some, there's some giant, there's some giant man that's walking around for, for sale. I don't know. I don't know who that is, but holy shit, is he good? I mean, you know, people talk about the, you know, AJ's offload being amazing, but it's like, all you had to do was just put it somewhere in like a 50 foot radius.
00:31:50
Speaker
like 10 feet tall with wingspan like that didn't have to be super accurate it was lewd he's got a wingspan out to here like holy shit
00:32:01
Speaker
Yeah. But it was, I mean, and he was, it was good awareness from AJ because he looked down and said, Oh, I am definitely about to go out out of bounds. I need to get this back in. Oh yeah. No, it was, it was, it was a fantastic offload. Let's not make too little of it. It was, no, it was amazing. Yeah. Uh, and what are you going to do? Like that, that was pretty much it, right? You know, you scored, that was the second try. Um, and Newcastle just weren't, weren't, weren't going to rock up unfortunately.
00:32:30
Speaker
just didn't feel like it was their night. No, there was, you know, they were, they, no Gary Graham, no Vanderbilt. Yeah. And those are two big guys in there. And the scoreline flatters them because they got, you know, seven pretty much at the death. So it was really a 31 19 match.
00:32:49
Speaker
Oh, no, that was him. Oh, no, they got scored on back. That's right. Joel Medivacy scored and then they got scored on after that. Yeah. Yeah. Never mind. Still not. Yeah. Joel Medivacy. Yeah. He's a Medivacy. He is definitely a Medivacy. He looks like Josh, but younger. That's all it is. He just looks like Josh, but younger. That's all it is. Oh, man. That was funny. Trademark smile. Yeah. Bad accident the next day.
00:33:18
Speaker
Again, a team that came out very, very good. Bathwork, crushing it early. Yeah, for a good while for 35 minutes or so. Yeah. And then it just went away. Yeah. Like on the, it turned on, the game turned on a dime and all of a sudden it was like Exeter, like, yeah, you know what?
00:33:42
Speaker
that scoring thing. I want to do that too. Yeah. Sam Skinner decided he wanted to score a couple of times. He did. And I think they tried to give it to Simmons, even one of them. I mean, you just kind of assume. Yeah. I mean, it's not a bad assumption to assume that the same Simmons has scored. Oh man. And, you know, O'Flarry gets over twice. Twice. Yep. Johnny Gray. Cause of course they need, you know,
00:34:05
Speaker
all lock tries yeah i know right god that's a lot that's a lot of muscle right there yeah and that's between those three like they had it they they were they kept it you know tight at the beginning but this is a learning experience for them for them for sure yeah
00:34:23
Speaker
But it's good. It was good to see mechanic. He looking good under good for the time. He got much better. Yep. Miles read though has also been good recently. So absolutely. That's a good combination. And I think I'm guessing it'll be read under Hill and Mercer Mercer this weekend. Yep. So that could be fun. Yeah, that could be a lot of fun. Yeah, not playing them. Although I think they're playing.
00:34:49
Speaker
sale. Yeah, that's not fair. Yeah, it's just mean, right? Who do I appeal that to? Oh, no, no. Bath are playing Newcastle. Oh, okay. There you go. That's the upside. No, they're good. They'll be okay. All right, they might have a shot. And one more note, Jack Inard played very well for, you know, third string hooker that's never, that's not played a whole lot of permission rugby.
00:35:13
Speaker
When 80, uh, so many seven, Tony came on at the end. Um, so did, uh, did the business just the same by that, by the time fricking, you know, Tony came on, it was no matter. That's a, that's silly. Three minutes. Come on. Don't know. Don't know. But it was good. You know, good on him. That's the, that's a, I mean, it's a good team to be in when you're struggling like that, but, uh, and when you're new and kind of fresh, but.
00:35:42
Speaker
They did a good job of kind of helping them out with a lot of things. So good on the young man. Not bad. A couple of other matches. Oh yeah, let's have a talk about this. Lost and Gloucester. I've made it not a mystery myself.
00:36:03
Speaker
about that I don't like Matt Carley as a referee. And this is one of the reasons I don't like him. He wants to get involved in a match.
00:36:15
Speaker
when he doesn't need to like you can say like Nigel wants to get involved in that. Nigel wants to just like have some one liners. That's all he wants to do. He doesn't want to like fun. He's having fun while he agrees. There's a difference. Like he doesn't want to have an impact on the match. Yes. He, you know, he wants to, you know, be involved with the players and have a laugh and dah, dah, dah, but
00:36:34
Speaker
And Barnes, he can be it can be the same way as well. Matt Carly just wants to have an effect on the match. And that is wrong for a referee. Plain old wrong. And it's not even a good effect. Like Luke Pierce wants to have an effect on the on the match where he tells everybody to use it very quickly. And he fucking means it. Right. That is a good thing. This is not a good way to have an impact on the match. Trying to get somebody sent off and reasoning yourself into a red card.
00:37:01
Speaker
Yeah, where everybody else is like yeah, it's rugby see the touchy behind them. He's just like
00:37:08
Speaker
Oh, are we sure we're going this way? Okay. And the TMO is like, even at the beginning, he's like, there's no foul play here. And he had to remind Carly, while Carly's going through the protocol, he's like, Matt, there's no foul play here. The protocol, whatever the criteria are, begin with foul play. Yeah, absolutely. Was there a head clash? Yes.
00:37:34
Speaker
Like the thing, the thing that I, you know, obviously, you know, we, we on the, on the fantasy rugby, we want to take bad hits out of the game. This wasn't a bad hit. It was just a hit with a bad result. And it was a bad result for everybody involved. Yeah. Atkinson said something about like, is this an outcome based thing that we're looking at now? And I think that's wrong.
00:37:55
Speaker
Cause the, the rap, the hit was, the hit was fine. It was the hit. The initial hit was on the ball and below the ball. And it was good rap and their heads just smacked each other. There wasn't like, that's not a head on head collision. A head on head collision is when the heads are the first thing that collide. Yeah. It's just a bonk of the heads, which happens. And it's unfortunate. It happens more often than not, man.
00:38:16
Speaker
But there's like, in even Atkinson was saying that like, what do they want him to do if he goes low, he's going to miss time the hit on the jump like this was the safest way to try to, and he didn't really try to, he wouldn't like slam into him he just got to wrap them up and they
00:38:32
Speaker
They knocked heads and, you know, the eyebrow was not a forgiving spot either. It's always going to cut like I've got 20 lot dishes in my face and most of them are in my eyebrow. Yeah. Like because of just little instances like that, you know, I had one that was nothing tap on my head and I'm like, what was that? And then they're like, oh, you're bleeding. I'm like, damn it. You're kidding me. And you know, when you do it, too, because like you can feel it, it didn't feel right. It doesn't hurt.
00:39:00
Speaker
But like, you're like, all right, OK. You have this weird, warm sensation. You're like, what is that? You're just hoping it's a bruise and it's swelling up and you'll be OK. And then you know, sometimes you see the blood shooting out. Sometimes I haven't seen it. Unfortunately, not that happened yet. I've had that. Yeah, I saw the blood. I saw the blood on the grass. That's what I saw. I was like, oh, that's all. That's that's blood. Bet you that's mine. Shit. So it happens. OK, so to put that aside, right. Mm hmm.
00:39:27
Speaker
Then, almost immediately after, you have that tackle on... It wasn't on Fekitoa. It was... I think it was on Rob Miller. Yeah, it was on Rob Miller, which was a perfectly fine hit. Fekitoa comes in and leads with his forearm right to the neck. They're showing it on replay.
00:39:51
Speaker
And he's like, yeah, that looks fine. Like nothing. And the TMO had to be like, I think that should be a sanction. Talk him into it. And he's like, Oh, Oh, now that you mentioned it, like, Oh, come on, man. What the fuck are you doing? Like if, if, if you wanted to, like, if the cards were flipped, if thoroughly got a yellow and Feccatello got a red, I'd say, you know what? That, that, that is fine. Okay. Cause one is clearly worse than the other, but it was flipped and just, it wasn't justice. Nope. I'm really glad that.
00:40:21
Speaker
Oh, beyond that, though. Let's do one of these who wore it better situations. And who was captain of Gloucester? Ludlow. Was Ludlow, okay. So Ludlow, with Thorli getting a red and Fekitoa getting barely, you know, had to finally get a yellow after all that. Yeah.
00:40:48
Speaker
or Owen Farrell on the kick to corner that his team just wasn't ready for. I like composure in situations like that. If you really want to be
00:41:05
Speaker
you know, and maybe it's not fair cause Farrell's already done it, but at the same time they're not doing it now. And that's what they're acting like. So, um, Gloucester rocked up and I was really impressed with their, their character and, and how they took it and how they, they want anyway. Yep, they did. And down for the, for the match. And you know, it looked for all money that Bassett had scored the winner, you know, and, and Joplin had the clangers to nail the conversion to get him ahead too at that. But 12 trees of what?
00:41:35
Speaker
Yeah. 12 trees decides. Nope. I am taking this match from you guys. We'll take it. How good was the Chris Harris try though? Oh, gorgeous. That guy is so good. Like not talked about enough. No. Goddamn. Like the hands and then just to muscle, like to find the wheels to get himself over. Finally took a little bit of go-go gadget, but he got himself there. Yeah.
00:41:59
Speaker
He got himself in there. There were some really good tries in this match for the most part. The Gaskell try was nice. The Rob Miller try was very nice as well. This was an entertaining match. 19 to 20 doesn't say a super entertaining match, but it was. But it was. It really was. It was a lot more open. So the thing is, I joke about Wooster and them not scoring tries because they just don't. But that's the thing. They never score tries. They have games like this.
00:42:28
Speaker
There were five tries in this match and for the amount of open play and the amount of just great attacking rugby that both teams played, even Gloucester being down a man.
00:42:41
Speaker
Jeffrey, can we speak about Jeffrey? That is just like, and that's, I mean, that try was worked mostly because most were down a man and didn't have someone there to cover for the big man.
00:42:59
Speaker
Has somebody lost a water Buffalo? I believe I've spotted him. Cause that wasn't even a prop. That didn't even look like your average prop on the loose play. Cause those are like, you know, fun. They come out of nowhere. It comes usually from a broken tackle. This was just a, they passed in the ball and nobody, he just ran through the line. Didn't even, didn't even get the brake stride and offload. Oh, so much fun. Yeah. But like that, that wasn't those things.
00:43:22
Speaker
That's the kind of match it was. And yeah, it's just so what they didn't score, you know, 40 points each. It was still an entertaining match. Very good match. Speaking of Lister, Lister 23, Bristol 24. She with the Clangers again. When he needed them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was missing them for the most part, but then trading match, no big deal. Whatever. Oh, I'm missing it. And all of a sudden said, no, no, wait, wait, wait a second.
00:43:46
Speaker
You don't need these, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I do. No, I go. No, I go. Yes. Even though Lago is.
00:43:57
Speaker
is he's figured it out. Like he's a lead convert. He seems to have gotten back to his form in union because this guy's on fire right now. That's three here. He had two the other week. Like this guy. Wow. He might catch Sam Simmons. I don't know if you keep scoring at this pace, twos and threes in a whack.
00:44:18
Speaker
Yeah, he was just amazing. And the Bears had, you know, they went kind of light in the forwards, I'd say. More heavy, but not coming for you, Ben. I can hear it. Like, I'm sorry? It's the gun for you. I can hear it. Like, Luitua is not, you know, he's a six, not an eight. Vui is a, you know, a lock who can play. Who can play six, but not always.
00:44:43
Speaker
And, but you'd want like fetchers with them and you'd think, um, and Harding is, is what's, this is his first start. So it's like, they're tough. Yeah. Right. They're going with guys who, who can get it done, but not like, it was not pretty. They're not going to light you on fire. They're not going to be the ones who are, who are breaking the line and scoring those tries. That's, you know,
00:45:04
Speaker
So for them to their back line to have the day that it had, because Eddie Logan looks fucking good too. And yes, he did peers and, and like all of them, fuck, even Purdie look good from 15. Like that's right. And you're playing guys out of position and there, you know, so it was very much, uh, the bears were very much like a week and do put whatever it was a little thing. They went a little too light. Um, I don't think they quite learned their lesson from the other week when they started taking guys out too early. Um,
00:45:30
Speaker
But they got it done in the end. So to Worcester's credit, they rocked up. They showed a lot more heart than they had in a while.
00:45:40
Speaker
Agreed. Good to see Billy Searle back after that nice gash that he got. Yeah. Super owl. Big time out. Yeah. It's, um, you know, and we, and we know the guys that can get done for Worcester and David didn't get on the score sheet, but he was doing everything within his power to do it. Uh, Venter is definitely, uh, a guy that's kind of the glue.
00:46:07
Speaker
not otherworldly by any means whatsoever. And obviously he got a try in this match, but he's done a good job of it. I think he's a big reason that this back lines kind of held together a little bit, even though obviously they have their problems with getting it over the line.
00:46:22
Speaker
But yeah, it's not a terrible back line. And he's one of the reasons for many ways. He does the little things right in the middle. And like you said, he's the glue. So when he's near the ball, it's not going to be something great that happens usually. But it's going to be something decent at worst. Yeah, it won't be something awful. Right. He's not going to totally cock it up. He'll do his job adequately. And that's what that team needs, right? Because you have like an Ali Morris, who seems to be kind of like an all or nothing kind of guy.
00:46:52
Speaker
Yeah, definitely all or nothing. Um, and then, you know, Nick David is still young. Um, so he's going to have to find his spots. Chris Ashton's little old, so he's same. Yeah, exactly. Um, so yeah, like, and they have some other guys too, but, um, not so much in this match, pretty Humphries.
00:47:09
Speaker
Okay. Um, but yeah, so, so this match was very much on and especially at Shillcock played, played pretty damn well at 10. Um, he was playing well at 10 and then obviously still was able to come on. Um, I think they'll do better with Searle at 10. Now that they have a natural 10 Shillcock was obviously they're filling and did a serviceable job.
00:47:29
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. He did a serviceable job. But yeah, because in fit, because there, there are other 10 Finn Smith is just not ready. Yeah, it's just not ready. I mean, the other week, I was like, yeah, this kid looks like a deer in headlights. I'm sorry. Yeah. One of these things is not like the other. No, it's definitely not doesn't belong. No. Yeah, there's that. So it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's not quite a typical Worcester performance, but it is in a way.
00:47:58
Speaker
Yeah. They, they, they kind of just pooped it away at the end. So, but you know, I was nervous for the bears, but I still had faith that they did get it done. Yeah. She was in the team. They were going to be okay all day.
00:48:12
Speaker
Let's go to the Sunday match. This was very entertaining as well. Quinn's and Northampton. The score line was a wee lopsided, but it was well teams contributed to this match in many ways. You know, I really feel like that that's the case. A couple of late drops for Northampton, which
00:48:29
Speaker
You know, kind of caught everybody with their pants down a little bit. It's like, oh, that's not great. So it's a big problem. Oh, you had a problem. Francis and Proctor both dropped. So didn't all and Collins came in. Collins on the, he was on the wrong wing basically with that jersey, but it worked.
00:48:50
Speaker
It did. Hey, he got over. Didn't Slate Home get over, too? I think Slate came close. No, he did. He got over. Yeah, there you go. And he only can play 40?
00:49:03
Speaker
Oh, 49. Okay. Because then they brought Nairobo on. But yeah, this would be the kind of match that I would actually want. You'd want Francis and certainly Proctor in. That would have been their kind of match a little bit open. And they even talked about it on the broadcast with
00:49:22
Speaker
What that kind of deliberate open play controlled unstructured play in a way, but they were some of the Kiwis are very good at. Right. And I don't I wouldn't call it unstructured because there was structure to it. It's just not like it's not typical.
00:49:38
Speaker
Yeah, it's not like grind it out. It's more just pass the ball. They definitely had a structure to it. They definitely had some organization to it. But it's not like your 10 is going to be here with your one and four as a pod. No, it's more of a, hey, you got a first receiver, you got a couple of guys off of them. All right, go do something.
00:50:05
Speaker
That's what you need. You just need one guy with two support players. Just go and have somebody off of them and just go. And it worked. If you do it right. Yeah, if you do it right.
00:50:16
Speaker
Tom James is kind of making Northampton not miss Alex Mitchell right now. Not even a little bit good on him. You know, he got baptized by fire when he played against Leinster and the champions cap earlier this season. So not to say Quinn's aren't good, but that's kind of you guys are nothing compared to what I've already seen. So that was a full world Leinster team, mind you as well. So that was no pushovers. And he's playing.
00:50:45
Speaker
beyond his ears right now, I think. So good on the young man. He's scoring tries for fun on top of that. Look at how many guys we're seeing that from. A ton. And over time too. I have thoughts on it. We'll do it on another pod. But the line between professional and amateur athlete at this point is, or like, you know,
00:51:09
Speaker
not so much amateur but like sub professional in a way even. It's not what we make it out to be. Anyway, teaser for some other time. There's a reason that a lot of these young guys like Alex Dombrandt, no pedigree whatsoever, played with his mates at uni.
00:51:29
Speaker
was good enough for to get to get noticed. And now he's, you know, everybody's like, why the fuck doesn't he have an England shirt? Yeah, at this point, right. So that line isn't, you know, there's no reason to to not trust someone just because they're, you know, they didn't do the right thing at some point, you know, what you consider to be the right thing. Yeah. So then just like, was it Finn from from Worcester?
00:51:59
Speaker
Yeah, it didn't work, but that's all right. You know, groom him, and now you know he needs a little bit more time. Right. Give him a try. James is ready. James is ready. Yeah, he's shown that for sure. I agree. And still have some of the other guys, like, you know, Slights and Dom, so. Yeah, they've taken their chance as well. Good on them. Luis has been fucking...
00:52:23
Speaker
Yeah, he's leaving from the front for sure. Captain material for sure for these guys. That was a good pick for them. Yeah, it's certainly no, no fluke that they've been even that much better with him. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. They've been so, so much harder to be with him in the lineup. No doubt. No doubt about that. You know, Karen, Karen Marcus aside, like he is, he's definitely a big reason that they do well and make themselves a tough out.
00:52:51
Speaker
And then there's a term green, who I think he's found himself. He's finally found himself. He's broken and he's here. And it seems we're just wearing that particular shirt. He was wearing 11. He did in the other, in the other Jersey this week. Oh, okay. Well, even better. It's not the Jersey. It's him. Okay. Aaron Morris did not have a good day. No, I know. Jeez. I'm glad he's okay. That would have been, that would have been awful.
00:53:18
Speaker
It was just not a fun day for him. No, just no good. Bad day, bad day for Aaron Morris. I'm glad he's okay. I'm glad he's, he's moving around. He's fine. He even tweeted like, yep, thanks everybody. I'm good. No big deal. But man, that's not good. Um, yeah. So Quinn's on a roll. They got a tough challenge in front of them coming up this week, but it's, um, it's looking better for, for the Quinn's at the stoop.
00:53:43
Speaker
It is. And if you're, so that's the other thing though, is if you're Chris Boyd, uh, are you, are you pooping yourself yet? Well, I mean, the good, the good thing is you don't have to worry about it. What do you mean? I mean, Northampton doesn't need to worry about going down or anything like that. I don't think, I don't know if they're expected. I don't think they were expected to necessarily make top four top six is probably the target at this point. Yeah, but they're not, they're not doing that. And they're like,
00:54:11
Speaker
They're only a point off, so.
00:54:15
Speaker
Oh, I haven't been. Oh, that's true. Oh, yeah. That's that. There's that collusion. Okay. They're just at the bottom of it. All right. But they're all at 26. Got it. Yeah, there's a bunch of my 26. But like just the way they're playing because you just look across the field in that match and and Harlequins were kind of doing what Saints are doing now, right? They're not playing the way they should be playing. They're not playing up to their potential, even with the guys that they have. Although maybe it's not so fair because they don't really have a 10 at all right now.
00:54:42
Speaker
No, they don't have Grayson and bigger is obviously away. So right and then for bank just he's not 10. No, and yeah, he hasn't been like, yeah, he hasn't been the same since he got into the England camp. Really? No, no. And so now you're putting him at 10 instead of 15. It's just that's a lot to put on him and.
00:55:01
Speaker
Yeah, but I'm just wondering like, you know, if, if I'm Boyd, I'm like, wait, they, they're, again, similar positions where Quinn's were, were underplaying their capabilities and they fired their coach. And now all of a sudden they're hot shit for the most part. And it's like that, that can change on a dime. And then you also see wasps, although maybe a beds that example now, cause they're struggling Lester in that boat. Like there's, there's a little bit of a bump that,
00:55:29
Speaker
team can get when when they're not you know i'm not sure if it's a coaching thing at this point is what i'm saying yeah i'm number one they have the those changes were made before the prl announced what they announced about relegation so there's that true um and i am not a huge fan of
00:55:46
Speaker
the American sport method, the football method, football being primarily a soccer manager because you're doing poorly. I should say more of the Roman Abramovich method, who is Chelsea's owner, and he fires managers every 18 months, almost on the nose. It's ridiculous. That's a different thing for a different day. I'm not a fan of that. It's one of those where, but that is the way sports go. I guess it's more cynical on my part.
00:56:12
Speaker
I want I want to let coaches have more than their fair shake because sometimes it is good. Yeah, that's the thing. You know, he's good. So it's there. It's just sometimes things conspire against you sometimes and you got to let it go. It's a big problem.
00:56:30
Speaker
It is a very big problem. And, you know, not having your usual nine, no, just not dismissing Tom James, we talked about how great he is. Alex Mitchell still better. So yeah, as well. Right. Too bad they let that go. I know. Still in denial about it. Yeah. I want to I want to sneak this into and it's a man that we didn't talk about at all.
Dan Carter's Rugby Legacy
00:56:56
Speaker
And I feel really, really, really bad just kind of not doing anything about it. And we should, because we talked about him on episode 100 and he's just retired. And he is one of the most amazing rugby players you've ever seen in our generation for sure. If not ever, Dan Carter, like this guy is just another level. And he's still just like,
00:57:25
Speaker
He was on a podcast the other day or last week. People were just like, you know, like, are you the best player ever? And of course he's going to say no. And he's just like, well, he played with Richie, so that helps. I mean, but you know,
00:57:44
Speaker
just another level. Like, and, and I told you that I told you this, and this was a story that's, that's probably well known now. Like he was a nine before he became a 10 and he got forced to 10 because the coach's son or whatever it was.
00:57:59
Speaker
was a nine. And he's like, no, no, no, my son's playing nine, you're gonna go play 10. And he's like, huh, okay, whatever. Well, I mean, he just took it on the chin. He's like, I don't give a shit, whatever. But I can only imagine what could have been if he was a nine. He ended up like a weed. I think 10 is okay for 10 worked out quite well, if I remember correctly at this point. Just, oh, the guy is so good. Like,
00:58:30
Speaker
that and and then this is again another thing we talked about on the lions or the on the on the 100th but the that lions match where he had two tries he kicked everything and that was also the match of the infamous banana kick it went like 80 meter me 80 meters along the side light and then drifted into touch i was like
00:58:52
Speaker
What the fuck was that? I'm in high school. I don't know any better, but I know that was good. You know, I didn't know shit about rugby at that point, but I knew it was damn good. So I was like, wow, this guy's really good, isn't he? Yeah, he is. You know, it just he's like. Yeah, he was you can say who he's playing with, but just at that level, he yeah, he was still hitting shoulders above it.
00:59:18
Speaker
Yeah. That's the thing. He was still hitting shoulders above it. Yeah. He ran that fucking team. Like that, that, that kind of attack, like it's, you know, because not the one who's guiding the attack. He's now at that point, he's, he's a cog in the machine.
00:59:31
Speaker
He gets, he gets the ball so they can run the attack. That's what he did. And then they just do fun things and Carter made it all. Yeah. I mean, that, that second match, like Gareth Thomas scored quickly or fairly quickly.
00:59:48
Speaker
And I remember it was a beautiful try like Gareth Thomas ran a fantastic line to get over and I was like, Oh, this is going to be matched because the Lions got talked in the first match too. And I was just like, Oh, okay, we're going to have we're going to have a game here this time. Nope. No, they got I think they got I think the all box got every point from there out and Dan Carter was mostly was involved in most of it until like the very last thing I think the Lions got a got a charity try like
01:00:16
Speaker
Jesus, this guy, he's no disrespect to Loco. He is the best 10 we've seen without a doubt. Yeah. And I didn't get to see enough of his career, but fuck you. I've seen enough. He was amazing. He was an amazing, he is somebody that we were just blessed to be around and be able to watch his actions. Like that 15 final,
01:00:46
Speaker
And that's the other thing is, are there players like that now that you're just like, I need to stop everything and just watch this guy play? And there are, but like- I think there are potential players.
01:01:01
Speaker
Mwong has the potential. Yeah, I would. I would. I would watch Antoine DuPont. Right. He's probably the other one. I have watched that. I mean, no, I really haven't yet. But yeah, like I have watched a match at the time be like, you know what? No, I'm stopping everything and watching this match because DuPont is playing. I was going to watch it anyway later, but this was. Yeah, that's that's one of those ones. You're doing it now. I think Mwong has got the potential. Finn is somebody I definitely will.
01:01:27
Speaker
put my put what i'm doing down and go all right scotland's playing fins playing rossings playing yeah i want to watch this guy play but it's dan carter still higher than that i think dupont's the one that's closest right now i think dupont's absolutely the one that's closest right now um but yeah it's just man he was
01:01:48
Speaker
He was absolutely amazing. And yeah, he has been like that, but not now, not these days, but that's not, he really, that's not so much his fault. No, no, it kind of isn't. Yeah. It's he's just another level. He really was. And we were, we were lucky enough to, to be around, to watch so much Dan Carter and for, for us to just be a part of that and just the aura that surrounds him and double woke up winner.
01:02:18
Speaker
you know, a bunch of super rugby, rugby titles, um, a couple of top 14 titles, like he's, he's, he's got a lot going for him. Um,
01:02:31
Speaker
Yeah. What did I say? Marco, his son's name is like Marco or Marcus or something like that. Yeah. Keep that name in your, in your head because the wife is also a international field hockey player. So the genes are strong as well. So you might see him.
01:02:49
Speaker
That's Jay Peterman on Seinfeld said, congratulations on a job done. No, no, fucking well done. Yeah. And just one more thing before we move on to the next thing. Yeah.
01:03:07
Speaker
Happy birthday, Rob Baxter. Okay. Let's move on. Yeah. Done. Okay. Um, I needed to get that out of my system. I'm going to say it, but you deserve some respect. I'd like, I'd like to hear respect. All right. Let's do start set. Okay. Uh, super rugby. Oh, I guess I'm leading us off. All right. Yeah. The force and the rebels. Um, Hey, the force finally won a match.
01:03:37
Speaker
Good on the boys. You know, that's that's amazing. I'm super happy for them. And it's a pretty decent opponent. Yeah. Wartos are just on a floundering right now. I have no idea. Like everybody says they're floundering. They have no idea what's going on right now. So not good. No, that's not good for them. But yeah, they got a decent team walking in that only lost on at the death against a really good team in the Brumby. So this might be the punishment game. Yeah. Find out. Yeah.
01:04:06
Speaker
for the force, uh, Kearney, it's not amazing scoreline, but he's one of the best players on the, on their team. So keep playing them. Right. Um, Thomas Cabeli scored well week one off the bench and score great last week. He'll score. He'll score fine this week. I think, um, just do it. Just don't stop thinking about it. Just do it. He has it in him. So just do it. Um, jacket, Jake McIntyre. I don't, I know it's slim pickings at tens. If you're someone with multiple options, bench him or sell them off. That would be my idea.
01:04:36
Speaker
Fergus Lee Warner, I believe is a lock playing in the loose forwards, but I think it's a trap. So I don't think last week's results are going to repeat itself. So don't do locks that play at flank because they're usually the, you know, the six. Yeah, they usually the six and they're not going to get the attacking because it's again, the FRD is very much on attacking points. And then that's, you know, when the lock is playing six, he's not, you're attacking. He's not likely. No, he's the banger at that point. Right.
01:05:05
Speaker
Uh, on the other side, um, you know, again, a few of these teams have only played one match, so it's still hard to, it's a bit of a crapshoot right now. I believe that was the Rebel's second, but yeah, either way, um, Hardwick scored well in the first two weeks for them.
01:05:20
Speaker
consider, you know, all things considered. So he's a go Lachlan Anderson scored really low last week against the Brumbies who are tough against OB. So I'd give him a thumbs up for sure. Um, the Stacy Ely continues to be very disappointing in the midfield. So I would, uh, I'd, I'd seek other options. And Pinkus is now approaching need to see a territory. So needs. So that'd be my thoughts for that.
01:05:47
Speaker
Over to Brumbies versus Reds. Don't look at this match for fantasy points.
01:05:54
Speaker
so much to be tough. Yeah.
Fantasy Rugby Tips and Picks
01:05:56
Speaker
Um, the, the, the, the Brumbies are the number one defense in fantasy, um, so far. And it's young, the season's young. Yes. But it's, it's significant, um, for the Brumbies. They're, they're giving up like nothing. Um, at least in their, their, I think they, I don't know if they played one or two. I believe they played two. This will be the third. So, oh yeah, that's right. Cause it's week four. Yeah. Um,
01:06:21
Speaker
Right. So reds are number four. So, yeah, it's not not points to be found. So Brumby's front row, Lilesios might get points, Muirhead, Banks, Nick White is an option because Reds are eighth out of 10 versus Scrum has.
01:06:42
Speaker
So just for the reds, also in the same vein, expect lowered results from McCrate, Scott Young, Tate McDermott, O'Connor, Pataia, Campbell, but they're worth starting because they, you know, any one of them could get points, but, and I'm sure some of them will. It's just don't, don't expect as much as you would normally get.
01:07:02
Speaker
Yeah, no, no, just screaming over there. I'll talk over to the help over the, the, the C there, uh, crusaders and chiefs. Either lock is actually a very good option right now. It's white lock and Barrett. So assuming it's them going, going forward. Um, yeah, I know Barry got a car the other weekend. That's what killed him, but.
01:07:19
Speaker
Yeah, either one. They're good options. Yes, he did. He showed us a lot of on the other week. Maybe that's why I got the card. Dallas McLeod is making good. You look bad. So I would give him a thumbs up right now if he's in your midfield. Go ahead.
01:07:40
Speaker
And that's not saying that good. He's bad, but cloud is the noticeable person of the two right now. He's playing very well. So I give him a thumbs up right now. Um, still sitting there. Halfbacks they've been buoyed by tries the last couple of weeks. Don't get fooled. They're styles.
01:07:57
Speaker
are not conducive to, to FRD. They don't dart, you know, they had a two inch try each time, like chill. It's okay. Back rows, it's still a little dicey. I know black and air played better this week. It's at this point a crap shoot. So I really wouldn't try and chance it with any of them.
01:08:15
Speaker
for the Chiefs, Brad, Brad Weber, get him in there now. DMACC is also a go. Duh. If he wasn't a go before, he's definitely a go now. If you listened last week, you would have known that that was bound to happen. Right. Put the X on it. Any back row for the Chiefs, not named Sam Kane is meh. And even he's a little meh, but he's the most less meh. Right. So he'll get you, he'll get you like five to 10 points. Yeah. Like if that's what you need,
01:08:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's probably what you're looking at with him. You're guaranteed it. It's like one of those like, you know what? If I, I'll take a seven instead of a two while I'm shooting for a 15. Right. Something like that. Yeah. Consistency. We like that. Right. Um, and Galen decent player played fairly well last week. Didn't score well. Um, he's not going to score any better this week, unfortunately either. So I would, uh, pine him as well.
01:09:09
Speaker
Over to Blues versus Highlanders. The Highlanders are kind of weak on defense, and the Blues are on the stronger side. So for the Blues, their front row, the Ioannes, Papali, you know, Papali scored a, well, he had a try, but he also scored fairly well, and he didn't play too much in their first match. So he got taken off early. Ontario Black should score well. Caleb Clarke, Talia Perofetta,
01:09:38
Speaker
All should be just fine. The Highlanders are strong against loose forwards, but don't let that stop you from playing Brazil. Probably stay away from whoever's a 10. Obviously, you might want to consider starting Nurekki and Alamalo. That's insight you might not get everywhere. Think about those guys.
01:10:01
Speaker
Oh man, of the weeks, um, for me, start of the week for super rugby guy was a sneaky, good draft at draft time. And I feel it should be talked more about not that he's not, uh, but on the wall of B scale, he just, he, he brought so much to the wallways last year before he got hurt. And I feel like he just needs to continue to be pumped up. Surely by us. And we know how good he is. Um, he's the reason the rebels are tough Pete and leads them from the front foot.
01:10:27
Speaker
My start of the week for week four of super rugby is wall being rebels fly half Matt Tamua. Bullshit. Oh, that's bullshit. Why is that? Because mine's Matt Tamua as well. Nice. Great minds. Yeah. Um, but it also has a little bit to do with the fact that the force of the worst versus tens by far.
01:10:48
Speaker
That also does not do any harm. Yeah, I know. We seem to agree on Matt Tamula as our start of the week. Bang. How about that? Soon of the week. Same continent, different match. He scored okay the last couple weeks, faces the wrong opposition this week.
01:11:06
Speaker
They do better than OK against his position in particular. Yeah, even if they can bust through here and there, I think he's an odd man out. My say of the week is Reds fullback, Chuck Campbell. OK, OK. Close. All right.
01:11:21
Speaker
but we might do the double there. The same match, same team, Tate McDermott. Tate McDermott. Yeah, he's going to have a tough day too. He's going to have an extremely rough day. And he's one of those guys who if you have a nine and you have an option, he's your primary option, probably not this week. Go with your backup or go take a look and look another road. It's not likely to happen this week.
01:11:49
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be a rough go for that. Joan right there. I think that, I mean, it's going to be a great match. That's likely a preview of the final. Um, maybe not, but that's likely the preview of the final for super. I'd imagine. Yeah. Yeah. So that's going to be, it'll be a great match, but not for fancy. Now let's hop over the backup to the Northern Institute of the pram. Um, actually, no, let's go six nations.
01:12:15
Speaker
I lied. Okay. Oh, let's do six agents. We'll do, we'll do prom last. Um, it'll leave you whales. Uh, whales are rolling and they decided to not mess around with their lineup, uh, named a strong squad for their penultimate match of the 2021 six nations. Um,
01:12:33
Speaker
Should be some places to find joy for the Italians though. For the Azuri, Johan Meyer, strong forwards are usually a good play no matter what kit they're wearing. He's one of them. Go for it. He'll get access to the ball and he's done well with it and he's going to make a ton of tackles. So like, yeah, yes.
01:12:54
Speaker
Um, Garbisi, Wales have given up 23 plus to everyone so far Sexton 23, Finn 44, even Ford 25. He, and he's a better attacker than at least then probably two of those guys at least. So, uh, I give him a thumbs up as well. Um, BG hookers have been a really unsatisfied spot for against Wales. Um, he's usually a decent play, but this is not the week.
01:13:19
Speaker
Well, they gave England five line outs and stole one. So that's so many points lost. If the game plan is that, then yeah, stay away from it. But that's the way they've been going. They've been kicking it in play.
01:13:35
Speaker
Yeah. And, uh, no CC or Negri, um, this week, AWJ does not take his opposition lightly and is very mean to them. So sit in the locks. Um, again, Azuri are still, you know, just very generous. They're not the most generous, but they're still the generous, very generous. Um, typically if you're a player that makes points in defense, though, this might be a letdown match.
01:14:00
Speaker
So, we started a couple weeks ago with the likes of Burner, I think it was a Burner standard. No, it was a Ollie Bond and Eldred. They were a little bit absent. That's who it was. Anyway, Tipperick, yes, I know what it just said, but he's actually got some really good attacking ability too, so he's okay. We'll find gaps. Yeah, he will.
01:14:23
Speaker
Yeah, speaking of Spining Space, Garrett Davies is a go. Loves to attack and might rival Varnier Dupont for top scrum half score this week, so thumbs up. On the other side of it, Allen Wynn is not likely to go for a stroll in this match. Yes, he wins lineouts, but again, we talked about
01:14:43
Speaker
Whales aren't kicking the touch and I don't know how much Italy's going to be kicking the touch. Either way, he's probably worthy of your bench. I wouldn't be ghosted looking to put him in your lineup though. Keep him on the bench. That's probably the most ideal. Same for Ken Owens. He usually makes his hay on defense. So along with the lineup as well, but same reasons. The lineup points will be there, but the defense points aren't going to be there. Maybe he goes for a run.
01:15:08
Speaker
but if you're, you know, if you're playing in this right now, you probably have Marchant and that's probably the guy I would go with right now. So there's that as well. So that's, yeah, I think it's all, yeah, it's all of them. Look at that. All right. Onto the crash. Um, let's go England, France. Um, a little bit on the line here, uh, for England, just a little bit. Um,
01:15:35
Speaker
But at the same time, who the fuck do you play from them? They're not that they're so inconsistent. You don't know what they're going to do. Are they going to play a kicking game? Because, you know, France can attack. So are they going to try to to slow it down? Fuck, who knows? But Jamie George, Maru Itoje, I'm guessing Maru Itoje is going to want to put up a statement game.
01:16:00
Speaker
That's the only reason why I would consider him. It's more of a kind of a reverse psychology thing, because normally I'd be like, fuck him. He hasn't played well with Six Nations, but there's a lot on the line now for him and how he responds to it means a lot for a lot of things. Johnny Hill, I think, would be a pretty good bet. He just brings it. He is consistent and dominant, so he'll get points.
01:16:29
Speaker
I'm shocked to hear the ink coming out of my mouth, but he's been on fire this Six Nations, Anthony Watson. And from the outside of him, I'm not sure, like even Farrell, I'm not sure this is the week to start Farrell. On the other side, France, Intimac, Isbach. And so it's called- It's very unusable.
01:16:50
Speaker
It does. But it makes it Romanan to make him very usable. Yes. And I think he's going to have himself a day. Dupont, Oliver, and for me, Veketawa. Oh, man, to him. It is a shame that the air is out for the competition because he has he's been pretty fun to watch, but. They'll do all right with Veketawa. I just don't know how you know, I would rather have
01:17:20
Speaker
Uh, via out there, then, then Teddy Tomah for this match, but we'll see how that goes. Yeah. They might go. Yeah. They might go. They have some ideas. They have some things up their sleeve that they could possibly do. So we'll say, especially a bucket towers in the lineup.
01:17:34
Speaker
Scotland and Ireland have actually started the most fantasy points per match basis in this tournament. How about that? Not the Azuri, who knew? Lots to pick from for the Scots, obviously. Darcy Graham could be a good outside player to get you ahead of others. Wings, there's usually one wing that doesn't do well against Ireland, that does well against Ireland, excuse me. George Turner, I'd still back him over a couple of the other hookers right now. Jinx being one of them that comes to mind.
01:18:01
Speaker
You know, I think the line between he and Ken Owens is very thin. I think he gets the slight edge if you have the two of them on the other side of the coin. Do you want to find a murderer? Love him. Elevent haven't done well against Ireland. And that includes Yoani and Villiere.
01:18:20
Speaker
So I think he's, I think he's the odd man out. Unfortunately. Um, Rory Sutherland, I talked about it the other week. Again, scotch props aren't getting it done, um, for one reason or another. So ditch him. Um, also just kind of a, a, a, a, a wanting sign. Redpath has a huge ownership percentage and he's probably not playing the rest of this tournament. So, uh, guys get rid of him and go find somebody else. If you don't have hog or fin, they go trade them out.
01:18:47
Speaker
Maybe they're lucky and realized that they were fucking done on week one and decided to ghost their team instead of, but I can't, but fuck I want to. Yeah, right. I know those feelings. On the other side, Scotland are shaping to be a tough out. Wales and England have discovered. Let's see what they do against their old friends, the Irish.
01:19:07
Speaker
Porter and Furlong should be fine. Scott's are under a ton of points to props. Burn, Scott's are tough against the second rose, but he's not been stopped yet, even by the French. So this match is definitely made for him as well. So I'd give him a thumbs up. Gary Ringwell, for whatever reason, does not score well for the most part in this competition. So not a knock on him, but it's fantastic.
01:19:32
Speaker
No. And Connor Murray, not what he, it's not that he won't do all right if he plays, but there's better options at this point between Davies, Barney and DuPont. You don't need to, you don't need to lean on him. Nope. Let's go to the weeks.
01:19:54
Speaker
Age before beauty. All right. Start of the week. He has been just amazing in this competition and he has
01:20:05
Speaker
he's going up against the slow winger on the other team. And the gap is just, the talent gap is going to be too much. I mean, this guy has gone up against some of the best in the world, just this, this competition in James Lowe. And, you know, I guess that would have been,
01:20:27
Speaker
Oh, it would have been Watson, I guess, for England. And he's still come away looking a lot better. And now he's going to go up against, it doesn't fucking matter who, because they only have one wing and it's not Monty. Sorry, we against him. Yeah. So, yeah, Louis Samet. Yeah. Put up points.
01:20:46
Speaker
Yep. Play him. My start of the week, um, guys are bang on form and it could be much joy for him in this match. His opposition give up the most points on average and the most points on average to his position. He's been well worth the value worth, worth the arm brand. He was handed not long ago to lead this country. My start of the week for week four of the six nations is the one and only it's Scott's hapton and exit or full back steward dog. I love watching him play.
01:21:17
Speaker
Even when it's with Exeter, I love watching him play. Yeah, he's just amazing to watch. On the other side.
01:21:22
Speaker
Um, since you're taking the drink, I'll, I'll just skip going, um, same match, same team. Uh, and same point as we were making a little bit ago, as far as being an excellent rugby player, that their talent from some reason, it just doesn't translate to points consistently. Um, so Chris Harris is bait fantasy wise, because you just want to love watching him and you do love watching him. You just want to see him score points and it just doesn't work.
01:21:48
Speaker
Right now it doesn't happen. Yeah, I agree. Love watching him play. Keep him on the, on off your team. Yeah, I will stick with the same match as, as that and my start of the week. Um, I enjoy watching him as well. And I've spoken to him about him. Um, he's not done super well, this competition and usually doesn't. Unfortunately, the opposition he faces are not about to make his life easier for whatever reason. He just doesn't turn what he does into points.
01:22:14
Speaker
For those reasons, my still the week for week four of Six Nations is Leinster and Ireland Senator Gary Ringenose.
01:22:21
Speaker
There. Yeah. Harsh but there. Yeah. All right. To the Prem, Friday night, Bristol and Was. Was in middling in both formats. Tough in some places. Porous in others. For the Bears. Dan Thomas should be back. Was are awful against flankers. Play him. Henry Purdy seems to perform every time he plays. So I'd give him a thumbs up too. On the other side, Jon Lloyd, I'd only play him an FRD if he's playing 10.
01:22:50
Speaker
We also aren't too bad against 10s and it's just, yeah, it's tough to say otherwise in TRMs we should have Marcus Smith or even AJ or at this point, you know? And Luke Morahan has now reached, we need to see it. I'm sorry buddy, especially with all the other wingers that perform for Bristol, we need to see it from Luke Morahan right now. Bristol are a tough bunch, borderline assholes at this point when it comes to fancy options or opposition, excuse me.
01:23:19
Speaker
for the loss. Shields is one of the, the flanker is one of the spots that Bristol are very weak and he, Willis Youngs, are probably all okay. Excuse me, Young.
01:23:30
Speaker
Gaskell playing really well. He's very hot and he's also in a position that Bristol don't dominate. So he's a thumbs up for me this week. On the other side of the coin, Goprath is a tough play. I think he'll have the tee if he starts, but I'd only play him in FRD and man, you better hope and pray for a little bit of luck there.
01:23:51
Speaker
start the loss front row this week, pray and hope because Bristol are giving up like two points on average to front rows in FRD. Um, I would, but I would definitely not play any of those front row players in TRM at all. I don't care who it is. Cruz, August JTA. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Don't, don't do it. Whatever you do. Don't do it.
01:24:19
Speaker
Okay, over to, where am I? Newcastle versus Bath. Yeah. Ooh, this could be tasty. I could not. You don't know with either of these teams. No, you don't. But Maguigan and Mulipola has been inconsistent, but he's on a hot streak, so ride him while he's hot, I guess. Much easier in FRD with the Newcastle front row, go with them.
01:24:47
Speaker
I love Greg Peterson, so I'm going to push him some more. Callum Chick has been on fire, so worth a start. Brett Connan might start thinking about him and Stevenson and Penny just based on the opposition because staff are not solid. I'm trying to think of a nice way to say it. No, they're fucking loose.
01:25:12
Speaker
Uh, they're on the other side though, Beth, uh, front row, um, and done or, or excellent starts. I mentioned, I mentioned to read earlier. He's, I think it's going to, as I said, it's going to be read under Hill Mercer. I believe in the back row, that's who I would put there. And I would start all of them. Um, Reese Priestland has been, uh, scoring pretty well. Yeah. Even last week because he doesn't miss.
01:25:35
Speaker
Yeah, it's not like 40 straight kicks. Yeah, he's going to get your points. And McConaughey just keeps.
01:25:43
Speaker
you know, racking up tries. Yeah. If he keeps doing what he, what he's been doing the last couple of weeks, he's totally worth it. And Newcastle are just killing nines. So I know that there's some pod members and friends of the pod who have been trying for weeks to, to get rid of Ben Spencer. I know I worked for a time. Yeah. This is the week to get that done. Don't worry about it. I did the other week. Yeah.
01:26:07
Speaker
Oh man. All right. Uh, Exeter Quins. Um, Quins are near top four in fantasy defense and Tierra, but very generous in FRD. Who knew? Really weird. Um, for Exeter, um, Fukundo or Hodge are both good this week. Um, that's a position that, um, Quins don't necessarily defend well. And then, uh, Jack Inard, I, if you're in a pinch and need a cheap hooker,
01:26:30
Speaker
Hey, so much phrasing there, but if you're at a pinch and you need a hooker on the cheap, I can't help but laugh at that. I'm so far, such a five year old. Um, Jackie entered is definitely, it's a good option though. He's a, you should do fine this week. Um, I know he didn't do great last week, but we saw he can at least go 70 yards. So yeah, do that on the other side. Um,
01:26:55
Speaker
Joe Simmons are probably going to be forced to play him, but this is a rough week for him. The twins are tough against 10s. So yeah, um, you might have to squint your eyes in FRD and play him, but don't play him in FRD and TRM. Uh, Devoto, the twins are tough up the middle and he's highly owned, but there's this guy named Andre Esrasion. That's like a brick wall standing here in the center for the twins. He's not going to make life. He's using any of the quit is extra center. So it's a really bad matchup. Yeah, it is.
01:27:25
Speaker
Even though he's actually one of the highest scorers from the center position at TRM. But that's also because he just plays every week.
01:27:32
Speaker
Right, that's true. Look at his average, it's not great. Yeah, it's not great. So that's a good thing. So look at that, look at it that way. Go ahead. That part. Exeter, back to being a fancy top four defense in both formats. That's bad news for a lot of people. We'll see who from Quinn's punches through the wall just the same, though. There's some obvious names, but let's keep some other not so obvious names. Levis is one of those obvious names.
01:28:00
Speaker
Anybody, and he is, even as any of his engine room compatriots are also probably a go if you happen to have like, not Tizard, but like Simmons or something like that. That's probably okay to go. Front row will go low and the Exeter is super soft against props. So we'll go low, Marler, there it goes this week. Yeah, I think because they give up, they make the tackles easy for props because they're just picking go a lot. So that's just money in the bank.
01:28:28
Speaker
Yup. Rack it up, baby. It's hard to miss those tackles. So like, yeah, you don't get, no minus points for missed tackles on those. Right. All right. Dom Brant might be a week to stick him on the bench. Yeah, they do. FRD is probably okay, but don't hope for much. Brownie, bad week to grab him if you're one of those people that's looking to grab him off.
01:28:53
Speaker
The TRM, if you're an FRD, hope you have other options because they might be a tough week for them.
01:29:01
Speaker
All right, onto Northampton versus Sale. Again, Sale are just an excellent fantasy defense. They're a pain in the ass. Right. And on the other side, Northampton are number one against forwards in TRM, and they're pretty strong in FRD as well. And Sale are entirely forward-based because their back line is poop. Yeah, for the most part. So yeah, for the most part.
01:29:27
Speaker
that wouldn't stop one of their backs from being my start of the week this week. For the Saints though, Sam Medivacy, the sailor giving up points to the hookers, and speaking of Medivacy face, he had a huge ass smile on the line brain.
01:29:45
Speaker
So it's like all three of the Mattavacis are breaking the line and doing the same things. They love that smile on a line break. Tom James, as we talked about, is worth a shot. Other than that, I'm not sure where I'm looking at points from Saints. So definitely a week to avoid them if you can. On the other side, again, a tough matchup for sale.
01:30:09
Speaker
DDP should be okay. The Saints struggle against Aids, so that's a tasty matchup there. AJ, quirky if he's playing, he'd be a good option because of his willingness to go for a jaunt every now and then, and the Saints are certainly vulnerable to people running at him from everywhere.
01:30:33
Speaker
So not so much in TRM, but FRD, I'd look his way if he's getting the call here. Starting to look at Marlin Yard. Well, that day's coming out.
01:30:46
Speaker
I don't want to talk about it anymore. I'm done. That's all I have to say about that. I feel that. All right. Gloucester and Leicester. Leicester are ugly and winning ugly, but ugly usually comes with defense. They're now a top four in points against in both formats for a fantasy. Yikes. For the cherry and whites.
01:31:08
Speaker
12 trees. If he's back at center, play him. It's a soft spot for the Tigers. Um, even if he's at 10, play him there. Barton might be worth a roll because they're not particularly hard against tens either. Um, Balmain and his front row compatriots, uh, should be fine. Lester a week against the front row, especially in FRD. It's VRR back this week. I think he's got one more. Okay.
01:31:31
Speaker
Um, on the other side of the coin, Willie Heinz is going to be in a tough one, especially in TRM, uh, maybe play me an FRD, but man, don't hope for much. Um, tough week to jump on the caratas train. Despite that contract extension, Lester are tough against wings and the outside backs. I would bench him if I could help it. Um, on the other side, Gloucester are a good chance to get on track for points. If you're a Lester guy, but you're going to pick out a Lester crew. Hmm.
01:31:58
Speaker
Let's figure out somebody to take advantage of them, shall we? Zach Henry's one of them. Oh, is that, yes. You know, talked him down the other week. I'm talking, I'm way up this week. Gloucester every week against 10s. Go, go get him. Montoya, get him, play him. Leicester front row is good to go to this week. Gloucester soft. He's had a couple of weeks fresh, so he should be good to go.
01:32:18
Speaker
I believe he's good to go. Um, I don't know who's playing flanker this week for, for Lester bench. Um, doesn't matter. The Gloucester are different. Yeah. Even if it's Kyle brink. Yeah. This is a tough week. Um, Freddy Stewart is one of those guys that's a great player, but he does not get done in fantasy and lost our tough against full back. So, uh, be somebody that I would probably pine as well.
01:32:43
Speaker
All right, onto the desert of the weekend, if you could call it it. London Irish versus Worcester. There might not be points on offer on the scoreboard, but there's points on offered on the fantasy scoreboard. So this is certainly a match to watch from a fantasy perspective because both these teams really don't give a fuck about giving up yards, giving up meters.
01:33:09
Speaker
Mafie, Cowan, Tui Tui, Ollie Hassell Collins, Rhoda, Loader, Parton, if they're healthy. Yes, those guys will gain meters and do good things. On the other side, for Worcester, kind of look at their guys who are...
01:33:25
Speaker
probably going to get the ball a little bit. Ethan Waller at the proposition gets his his runs in and his tackles. So certainly a guy worth having. Kovacic, Hugar, Nick David, Ollie Morris, as we talked about, I think he's he's he should have a week this week. He's OK this week, yeah. And I'm I'm just going to say that Chris Ashton is due. Maybe I don't I don't know. It's not doesn't mean he's going to score this week, but he's due.
01:33:54
Speaker
Okay. Like usually finds a try now and again. So right. And it's been a while and he's had a couple near misses. Yeah. The one that he dropped that should have been his shoulder. And I think he had one this past week that could have been a try. Uh, it just didn't work out. It wasn't, it wasn't like, it was completely his fault. It just wasn't like bad timing or something. I think the pass one of the touch, but he, he had space. So there's he's due and it's, it's going to come at some point.
01:34:20
Speaker
Start of the week, uh, mentioned him early. He recently joined his club and has made a huge impact scoring a handful of tries in, in almost as many games. Um, this week, he faces a opposition that should be generous enough to give him points. Um, outside of said tries, even, uh, my start of the week for around 13 round 13. Holy shit. Uh, of the prem is Pumas and tigers hooker, Julian Montoya.
01:34:42
Speaker
That's an excellent choice. I'm also going to go with, I believe, an excellent choice. I know you won't disagree because of who it is and because of the opposition. This team gets crushed by 10s, just crushed, and this guy is the guy who was
01:35:01
Speaker
maybe the best 10 in the prem right now. Um, as long as you know, the sick nation guys are away. Um, but right now he's the best AJ McGinney, uh, could get you more than enough points this week. He's my son of the week outside of Marcus Smith. I'd say probably he's the bet. He's probably right there. I don't count Marcus Smith cause he's, he's England's 10, you know,
01:35:20
Speaker
He should be. Yeah, you're probably right. Probably not untrue. Soon of the week. I love the way this guy's been playing. It's almost been a plug and play with him for his club. And he's been a little spark plug on top of all that.
01:35:35
Speaker
Yeah, since the starter was called, since their starter was called away originally. Um, he's going against the really wrong opposition this week and they, they just eat half backs all day. Uh, and younger opposition just tend to struggle against these guys too. Cause they are tough defensively. And that's sometimes what kind of makes young opposition poop themselves a little bit. Um, I still week for around 13 for the prem is Northampton's young super scrum half Tom James harsh. Hmm.
01:36:03
Speaker
Same position, different match. I mentioned him earlier as far as it's time to get rid of him.
01:36:12
Speaker
Joe Simmons a couple of weeks ago, that it's time to trade him and you can probably flee somebody for him. I bet you still, because Ben Spencer, there's something there. And he's shown it recently. He's starting to show it in flashes, but not consistently. But Newcastle are the best in the league, I think, versus Nines. And all the fact that Ben Spencer is my citizen.
01:36:37
Speaker
Yeah, sorry, dude. Yeah, I love him too, but you know, just facts of facts, man. Yeah, let's let's do some picking on the bounce out of this joint, shall we? Alright, super rugby force rebels. Rebels. Yes, I'd like to force them. Congratulations on their their last win, but rebels are good enough. Crusaders, Chiefs, Crusaders. Yeah.
01:37:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. You really want to pay the taste, but, uh, Brumby's reds. I'm going to go reds. Okay. Yeah. I'll take that. I can't tell you who's playing better because I haven't been in matches, but I'm going to go red. So I'm going to get on that shit. Blues and highlanders. This'll be interesting. This is the blues home opener. So this'll be interesting.
01:37:31
Speaker
I like the blues. The Highlanders are playing very well, but I really like the blues. And I'm looking forward to seeing Caleb Clark versus Norecki. Norecki. That'll be very interesting. That'll be fun. I know they're not going to, you know, they're 11. So, but they'll both want to put on the show. Both of them are going to want to be the star. So let's see who can see who steps up bigger. Uh, to the prem, Bristol Wasp. Bristol. Bristol. Wasps are struggling.
01:38:01
Speaker
Yeah. Um, Newcastle bath. Yeah. I'm taking bath as well. Exeter Quinn's. Oh, I really want to pick the ones here, but. Well, we saw it happen last year. Um, yeah, but that was, that was at the stoop, not at Sandy park. No, it wasn't. Okay. Okay. Damn. I thought that was at Sandy park. Um,
01:38:30
Speaker
Yeah, I'll stick with Exeter. I don't want to. I don't want to either. Uh, Northampton sale sale. Gloucester. Lester. Yeah. Lester. Well.
01:38:46
Speaker
I want to talk myself into Gloucester. I do too, but Luster are getting it done. It's not pretty, but they're getting it done. Yeah, I agree. So don't go with Luster. Yeah. Irish and Gloucester. Yeah. Gloucester without Thorlo. That's the other thing. That's the other thing. Yeah. Irish and Worcester. Irish. Yeah, same.
01:39:07
Speaker
Okay. To the big ones. Six nations. I have James's picks. He's going Wales, England, and Scotland. I believe. Yeah. So Italy, Wales, Wales. Wales. Wales to give themselves one, one step close to the grand slam. Le crunch. Le blue. Yeah.
01:39:30
Speaker
I mean, I know it's, it's at Twickenham, but that doesn't, that didn't stop Scotland from winning. So who the fuck are England right now? I don't think they know. Yeah. And which England's going to show up. I mean, if they, if they, they like, they're going to want to slow France down. So are they going to go back to that kicking game? Like they did versus.
01:39:51
Speaker
Scotland. Um, cause I think that won't stop. Well, they almost, they almost lost to this French team. That was a second strength French team in the fall. Right. So, so I just don't like where England, their coupon into Mac back. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Give, give me, give me, um, Scotland, Ireland, I believe this is at Murray field. So I'm going to take Scotland. I'm going to take Scotland as well. Plus they need it more. Right.
01:40:17
Speaker
Yeah, this, this will keep them alive. I think Ireland are more or less out. So yeah. Um, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll back the Scots and hopefully we can start looking at some fun stuff in the last couple of matches. They have to play as well. Okay. This was fun. Oh man. We're going to be in preparation mode next week when we do this and it's going to be interesting at least. Yeah.
01:40:42
Speaker
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01:40:59
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01:41:17
Speaker
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