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Season 2- Episode 20- Can of Worms (Champions Cup Round 6)
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It's your favorite American Fantasy Rugby podcast back to bring you the goods. Not a whole lot going on since we last podded...oh wait kind of the opposite actually. On this week's pod we discuss the Premierships final decision for the Saracens Rugby Club, what that could mean for the players, other clubs and England rugby. Speaking of England rugby, we gloss over the squad selections (more coming next week on our 6 Nations preview). Of course we chat about the final round of Champions Cup Pool play, and have a look at the Semi-Finals that will entertain us come march. Finally, it's the return of Start/Sit for this weekend's Premiership action. Don't forget to give to The Rugby Magazine Kickstarter (at the bottom here), it only takes a little effort from the many.
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Promotion
00:00:08
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Hey everybody, how's it going? My name's Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glove. Welcome in, let's go. We got a lot to talk about this week, obviously. Is there any news? Just a way better news over the weekend than even Friday night. I think it was the big one that broke. But yeah, we'll get into it. Yeah, let's pop these fuckers and let's get going. I'm not asking each one. We got a lot to cover.
00:00:30
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Make sure that you're looking us up on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify. Leave us a review. Like I said, we're not asking you for a five star or whatever it is, the max review. We just want to know what you think. So if it's a one star, great. Please tell us why it's a one star. That's what we want. Hold, hold, hold. You son of a... If it's our accents, there's very little we can do about that. Sorry. Son of a biscuit. Oh, dude. Total amateur hour over here. Oh.
00:01:00
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Well, that's all right. All right. Well, I fucked this up. There we go. Stay there. Don't move.
Premiership Weekend and Rugby Mag Campaign
00:01:06
Speaker
All right. I'm going to stay away from that for a second. Um, yeah. So we're obviously entering in a weekend of premiere ships. So get your rugby mag upgrades and then, uh,
00:01:15
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It's going to be key, especially around, uh, six nations, all the guys that are going to be in and out. And, you know, this is not the last squad that we're going to see announced from any of the, any of the nations. So guys are going to get pulled in left and right. Obviously we have a lot of Welsh and Scottish players that are in this league that are going to be participating for those countries as well. Even Italy, you know? Yeah.
00:01:36
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So it'll be it'll be you'll need it and help help these guys out. Come on. Super rugby campaign for a T.R.M. We got to get this over the line. There's at least a thousand of us that play. If we all put down 10, I put my I put my money down. You know, I put my money down. Exactly. So everybody out there. And I know this is not a widely listened to podcast, but tell your friends, talk to them about it. You're talking about 10 quid, which is about 15, 20 bucks here. Do it. Just do it. You tell me that you're going to miss that much money.
00:02:05
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then you and I need to have a serious conversation about something else. Buy them a six pack, buy them a 12 pack. You can sacrifice a couple beers of your own for TRM because they're more than worth it. You get much more enjoyment out of them than you do out of those six beers.
00:02:24
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Yes, probably. And this is a very complex game. It's a very intricate game. So it's worth it if you haven't played the Super Rugby. If you need convincing, at least look at the Six Nations and try that and give that a dry run. So then you can kind of figure out, OK, actually, this might be fun. And as we talked about in previous pods,
00:02:48
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The the ability to see the starters and who's rostered Is is so key and especially in super rugby when? These this information comes out who the fuck knows when in the middle of the night for us especially. Yeah Yeah, so it's good. It's nice to be able to to just wake up to it like oh, okay this guy's oh, hey look at that. Yeah
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Would you look at that? Yeah, so these guys are totally worth it. And please just have a look. Have a look. Please donate whatever you can. You get a free upgrade if you donate the recommended amount, which is 10 quid. So get on it, guys. Let's get this over the line, shall we?
Fantasy Rugby Geek and FRD League Callout
00:03:23
Speaker
And of course, don't forget about our friend, the fancy rugby geek. If you guys have questions and you don't like our answers, go to him. And if we both have answered the same answer, then I don't know what to tell you.
00:03:34
Speaker
And you're probably getting some really good advice. Or some really bad advice. Or some really terrible advice. But FRG's great. And especially he's great to follow him on Twitter. Yeah. And he pops up on your feed all the time with, oh, hey, by the way, I made this preview and look for this. And I'm like, the shit that I haven't even really...
00:03:53
Speaker
Considered considered yet like yeah, you know, he's ten steps out of yeah, right. He's already started fantasy previews for the four Six Nations. Yep Yeah, I think he had one out the day after the England lineup was announced or like maybe even later in the day It was crazy sounds about right for him. So dude does work. He's on it. Yeah, give him some love
00:04:11
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Buy him a coffee as we always recommend it. If you're not going to do the damn TRR record, at least buy Georgia coffee. So speaking of super rugby, we actually have one spot remaining in our FRD spot. So please, please, please email us if you want that spot. It's
00:04:31
Speaker
We have an invite out to it, so if you get to us before that invite is accepted, then you're in. FantasyRubyPodcast.gmail.com or hit Ben or I up on Twitter, and I will get you into the Six Nations League, Six Nations Super Rugby League for FRD drafting this weekend.
00:04:46
Speaker
Yep, Saturday morning, which which yeah, Saturday morning for us and for others not so much Six Nations TRM. Well, we've also started we've already opened up the league So go ahead and pop in there and just search fancy the fancy rugby yanks podcasts or fancy rugby inks I don't know which one it is, but either one of them we're in there So hop in and challenge Ben myself and our friend George and see how you do All right
Saracens Relegation and Salary Cap Scandal
00:05:11
Speaker
Other than that, let's get into the obvious news. Saracens, what are you going to do? It hurts. There's a lot to be done. There's a lot to dissect here for you and I. There's a lot of emotion that goes through it. There is. And it sucks.
00:05:33
Speaker
It's mostly the being let down. That's the problem. I still do not appreciate the over-the-top takes on the matter as far as
00:05:47
Speaker
You know, oh, you know give back titles this and that yada yada From some of the coaches it's more that's more from the coaches who are people got a professional relegated by this No, they didn't Nobody got nobody got relegated because of Saracens. Nobody lost their job because of what Saracens did Yeah, if it was that big a deal that got you relegated then you screw up somewhere else Oh played them twice during the year. You didn't get relegated from those two meetings. No
00:06:18
Speaker
So just the Over the top like oh the game is has fallen into ill repute and shit like that I'm just like calm down. Can we just please calm down? But it's yes, it's a shit situation and It is something that's kind of been bugging me for a while anyway about the premiership which is
00:06:40
Speaker
You know, for football, for American football, for pretty much any sport in America, I can look up and see what any athlete is making right now. There's absolute transparency. All of the contracts go through the league offices for approval.
00:06:55
Speaker
So that they know they can track who's spending what and and You know for something like baseball which has a soft cap They can dish out the fines for for going over the the you know, the luxury tax tax. Yeah, and whatnot And football you just can't do it. They won't accept the contract. No Yeah, you cannot sign literally can't do that so the fact that the premiership doesn't do these things is
00:07:22
Speaker
to me. So, you know, I'm learning about the inner workings of the premiership, too. Is this all this is happening? Right. And things that have kind of been questions in my mind are now blaring sirens like, Oh, they didn't know because they don't do this intelligently. All this shit needs to be, you know, needs to be brought to the to the light. Agreed. Everything's way too behind closed doors. And when things are behind closed doors, things like this happen.
00:07:48
Speaker
Yeah. And you know, because it's they want us to us to trust that they got this like, yeah, don't worry. We got this. And apparently they don't. So that's the that's now the thing. And, you know, as unfortunate as it is for you and I as shares and supporters, I hope that there are many lessons that are learned from this that can help make the league better. Right. I mean, that's that's really that's really all I can all I can hope for at this point.
00:08:17
Speaker
as I was talking to Geraint Davies again. Yeah. Who is again a great follow
Rugby's Growth Compared to US Sports
00:08:24
Speaker
on the Twitter. Also a good follow. Yes. And these are things that we don't see. I mean, first off, this is for for American sports. This is like the most noncontroversial thing ever ever. This would be this is a process crime, not a crime of malice. Yeah, not a blatant cheating. Not like we're seeing in baseball now. Oh, boy.
00:08:47
Speaker
Uh, which is ridiculous it might actually disaster that is it's brought down multiple managers Not even though the teams that are were affected like the guys who were on on the managing on the staff But now it took another job and took other jobs now and now they're they're getting fired and designing and all that stuff um, it's it's a That's another circus in itself. Um, but I also have to you have to bear in mind that that
00:09:10
Speaker
Pro rugby is still only a couple decades old. Yeah, you know, it's not even 30 years old not quite the NFL is now celebrating its 100th year major league baseball is is So these sports have they've they've they've they're developed they're they're fully matured and they've dealt with these issues and they've they've considered them whereas Premiership is still putting its diapers on as far as hmm
00:09:39
Speaker
They're concerned putting those huggies on still yeah pull-ups. So this is the shit that's gonna happen while while Professional rugby sorts itself out and becomes a fully fledged True professional established. Yeah, really important institution more than it is just a league
00:09:54
Speaker
Yeah, really unfortunate. Yeah, it's uh Yeah, it it hurt when the news came and you know The the rumors were going around and I was like, all right we and as you and I have previously established rumors Aren't all they're cracked up to be sometimes and you know, sometimes overblown. So I wasn't quite putting a lot of stock into it but in the end it it was like oh shit and that that also goes to the state of the the premiership as far as the
00:10:24
Speaker
What was it? The news broke late friday afternoon or something like that. That was when the first Yeah, like fire whatever us yeah for us and premiership Went what like 36 hours? It took them 36 hours to respond and and and sorry They decided yeah. Um, oh no, it was thursday because the players had the meeting friday morning
00:10:46
Speaker
I don't remember the exact timeline but either way the point was that it took them over 24 hours to to respond to the room to serious rumors and and That's that's a little bit Mickey Mouse, too And I'm not I'm not blaming premiership for that. I'm what I'm just saying is that this is again a developing league and and this is in 20 years we'll be looking back at this and saying that we went apeshit over this because
00:11:11
Speaker
Guess what? Good possibility. You're gonna see more. Yeah, they'll be bigger and larger and more.
00:11:18
Speaker
And I'm I'm happy to see saying I'm I will be perfectly fine watching premiership next year without Saracen's in it and Champions Cup Good, they'll take their punishment.
Impact of Saracens' Relegation on TV Deals
00:11:29
Speaker
I'll be happy to see it. I want hey listen I You and I talked about it. Well, we'll watch the teams that are kind of our side pieces and yeah, we'll enjoy that and that's okay There's nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. Nope. Nothing at all And I'm happy to see Sarah if anything I'm happy now to see Saracen's put their hands up and say yeah, we I
00:11:46
Speaker
we did some people are still a pretty accusatory that they're not doing that it's like listen just they're taking it okay just deal with it they they've accepted the in their eyes the lesser of two evils and and i a certain owner and i won't name who uh seem to think that
00:12:03
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they're hiding something because they took this punishment and they they laid it out in terms that sounded like um, the audit was uh, the better option and the Saracens have Seen it another way Saying that no, we we like this option because we don't want the players to have to make a mad scramble to find a new club, right? And you know mid-season and all that sucks. It's not fair for anybody
00:12:30
Speaker
No, it's not fair to the players and as they've done for the entirety of the time that Nigel Ray owns this team, they're looking at the players first. So that's how that is. Saracens will be relegated at the end of the year and go down to the championship. Godspeed to all those teams that are down there. I did see a report now that this might actually elevate the championship to getting a TV deal.
00:12:55
Speaker
Oh, that'd be fun. Because people are going to want to see the Saris play even at that level. Yeah. I mean, even obviously they're going to give us some other superstars, but still, there's still some damn good players that are going to stay on the team. Yeah. I mean, I'm assuming that Manu from Napola and Max Mallons and Gallagher and Movington, all these kids who are coming up that they seem to produce regularly from their Fantastic Academy system.
00:13:19
Speaker
they'll be the people gonna watch them people are gonna watch it don't want to watch them because they're very good and they play very good rugby yes agreed all right and then in the meantime what normally this is the biggest news of the weekend right everybody's anticipating this was this was what everybody was looking
Eddie Jones' Squad Selection and Strategy
00:13:37
Speaker
forward to
00:13:37
Speaker
Until this app, until the stairs happen. Anyone announced their squad? Eight uncapped players? I love it. And, you know, it's a mix of Eddie trying to protect his job because he needs results, unfortunately, and that's just how it's going to go because he doesn't have a contract until the next World Cup. He has it a year or two short of it. So I think England want to see progress before they say, yeah, OK, now you can go to France and do the World Cup.
00:14:07
Speaker
And it's like, uh, okay, so I I just i'm not sure he was it's I don't know what they're gonna do with it, but I don't either I I don't I don't The more and more eddie gets on he can beat some of these You know the the and he fucking beat the all-blacks. He did Yeah, but he did read the explanations for some of his decisions were based now around
00:14:31
Speaker
uh south africa and what they did in the final and because you know they won't don't want that to happen again and and that that kind of pisses me off because england squad is so talented and well most of the players are pretty fucking talented other ones kind of i just they're head scratchers favoritism yeah um like the the lot of the lester players um but
00:15:01
Speaker
How the fuck was I? Oh, but you don't you don't win a championship by saying, oh, we need to be able to, you know, beat New Zealand at their game and South Africa at their game. No, no, no. You go to win six nations or a World Cup by being the best you have and what you be the best at what you do. You know, they got out of what they do in that South Africa match.
00:15:27
Speaker
You know, if they play the same way they played against New Zealand, the same style, yeah, OK, you're struggling in the scrum. That doesn't mean you can't play a little bit open away from the scrum. Yeah, it means you got to scramble. It makes it harder, but it doesn't make it impossible. No. And to say, oh, well, now we just have to be a Thumper team because South Africa won the World Cup. No, doing the best you are and do what you do. That's that's how it works at that level. You have the best teams in the world. It's who plays the best rugby, not
00:15:56
Speaker
who's the most physical and um you know who's who's the most skilled throwing the the ball around it's it's who's playing the best rugby and you don't need to try to fuck you really want to go up against south africa pound for pound i'm not trying to go that's how you want to try to do this like no no in no way shape before michael wouldn't try to go toe to toe with those guys right no way i want to not a chance to to play a more open game and make them run i want to see those big guys run not especially not tackling um
00:16:27
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, let's let's focus on some some upside here, guys that I'm kind of happy to see in there. Obviously, the glaring name for us is Ben Earl. That's going to be fun to see. I'm so happy. I will be so excited to see him in an England shirt. I'm happy for the kid. The swirlings are that he could be the eight man that replaces Billy because he wants because I think Eddie might want a big bigger six. So that could be my or Courtney laws, depending on who you ask.
00:16:56
Speaker
and then two fairly fast seven and eight, which would mean that you're probably looking at Underhill or Curry or both, and then possibly Earl or one of the other two off the bench. So that'll be, I'm excited to see him, I'm so happy for him. Him and Will Stewart. Will Stewart has had a hell of a season. Talk about a bolter. Big time for the kid. And then in the backs, the obvious name is,
00:17:22
Speaker
Jacob umaga. Yeah, i'm so excited to see him. I I uh, it was a shock. I was like whoa Hi, okay. Cool. I mean yeah To his credit. He's played a lot better In the last you know month month and a half than he had in any of the previous seasons Yeah, so gotta give him credit and it's been recognized and he's been doing so even while he makes mistakes He keeps his head up and he and he continues he's pressing on and
00:17:47
Speaker
and does well, and that's what rugby is. You make mistakes as the game goes on. Can you keep your head up and knock it down about it? And Furbank, can we? George Furbank, another bolter, big time. Great for him. And Thorley, obviously. He was the long way. That's expected. And then Josh Hodge as an apprentice on a new castle.
00:18:09
Speaker
That's it was something that was pointed out that Eddie not afraid to pick from the championship. Yeah Maybe that's it. Maybe that's a sign something something there. Just just gonna say this there might be something there. So there's a there's a lot There's a lot to dissect over this and we're gonna go over It's a lot of where are these two? Yes, there are and we're gonna go over in much more detail next weekend or next week when we have our good friend James back and Six Nations preview and talk about all the games coming up and all the squads and
00:18:38
Speaker
So be tuned in for that one. And if you enjoy James' company as much as we do, that's going to be one that you make sure you schedule a download for. Oh, shit, there was also a competition going on. Yeah, there's actually a really good one at that. So let's start. Let's let's go through the games that were relevant to qualification and a little bit of the seeding stuff. Like we don't need to talk about Leinster. They struggled against Bennett and Treviso.
00:19:08
Speaker
whatever, they got the job done. They're one, no surprise. Saints getting a bonus point at Leon, which was not something we quite expected, although we didn't think was unthinkable. The way they play rugby, it was definitely a possibility. And at first, it looked a little oddly. It looked a little scary for them. I was like, ooh, are they?
00:19:26
Speaker
Are they not going to win this game? Are they not going to qualify? It was a little bit, oh no, moment. Leon were trying to figure themselves out. Was it Sabela that was tearing him apart? Was that the flanker? That was one of them. But man, whoever it was, he was having, whoever it was. How bad was Sabela? Yeah. I think you're right there. Yeah, okay. He was tearing him apart. And then Nakatashi.
00:19:51
Speaker
He was having a day too. He just seemed to be going for a stroll every other time. Yeah, so Bella was not shy about offloading, to say the least. But the things they did get figured out, though. They did.
00:20:11
Speaker
Ultimately, was it for a bank got the No point. Yeah, you got the bonus point and then fish because you gotta love the front row. Try fish Finishing it off or James whenever it was that one
00:20:26
Speaker
Um, but, and this is, it's good to see, uh, you know, well, I guess we'll get to it later. Um, but, uh, the fact that it's, it's unfortunate that where they're Northampton are going after winning this match. Um, cause it would be nice to, although it's good that the premiership CIA side is definitely making it through the quarterfinals of the semi, but.
00:20:47
Speaker
Not like this. There, yeah. Unfortunately, um, they're porn's not gonna be up to par. But of course, we can't talk about the Saints without talking about the one. Um, there, I believe I saw Squidge tweet something about, there are three guarantees in life, death, taxes, and COVID's Rhinac. Right. You couldn't make it up. I was like, I was waiting for Rhinac to score. I was like, all right, when's Rhinac scoring? Because that usually comes about now.
00:21:13
Speaker
And sure enough. And there it is. And there he is going for a nice long stroll. He was, he's world class. There's nothing else to be said about him really. I mean you could say a lot of other things about him but really to sum it up, he's world class. He's unbelievable.
00:21:29
Speaker
Saints do went 36 24 overlay on and they take care of it and they get themselves into a position But they still had to kind of sit on their hands and and wait unfortunately because they were the first game of the weekend Yeah, which sucked Didn't get a chance to watch either of the Ulster or Quinn or Claremont games. I presume It was a little bit squeaky, but business as usual at the same time
00:21:52
Speaker
Yeah, I watched Quinn's versus Claremont. OK. And it was it was great. I mean, it was there was a lot of scoring in the first couple of minutes. I mean, wide open play. Beetham gets over for Claremont and Northmore. Yeah, you did say that. Right. Gets it gets his try pretty early. Dom Britt.
00:22:11
Speaker
Um, off of a line break gets that ball and, and, uh, just pins the defender and puts Northmore through. Well done. Um, right. Um, right before Dom Brant gets himself over any way later to, you know, you, you, you, you dish some off and, and the karma comes back to you. Yeah. Well done. Atta boy. So Quinn's 19, Claremont, 26 Claremont, uh, win the group. And, uh, also did manage to qualify as the bet, the best runner up with the runner ups too.
00:22:39
Speaker
We kind of knew that would be the case as long as the best runner-up was coming from this group Yeah, pretty much either way so you could pencil them both in it was this unfortunate was the surprise though that Dom Rhett had just the up the mat of Another amazing match. I mean he was man of the match all that stuff in front of Eddie Jones Only only gets now. I wasn't looking. Yeah No, I'm not gonna look in your direction Unfortunately, well, there's there's still there's still times time to make adjustments. So we'll see hopefully
00:23:07
Speaker
I hope that I hope the kid gets it because he should and if he has any and if he doesn't if he gets Continues to get snubbed and he has an allegiance somewhere else that he can possibly cash in on for international duty He should yeah, I wouldn't
Quarterfinal Matchup Analysis and Predictions
00:23:19
Speaker
blame him one bit. Yeah, this is not a guy that should be getting snubbed like this No, you know, he's playing out of his brain and I know he's young but there's a lot of other youngins that are on the team, right? Oh, yeah, he needs to he needs to definitely reconsider so I wouldn't blame him if he does if you wanted to go like big if
00:23:37
Speaker
Similar replacement to your your your previous eight man. Yeah. Yeah, not quite the like before like but not a far cry So yeah, there's there's a thought and I'll start obviously do well I guess the burns brothers played against each other at 10, which is awesome. That is awesome. That's that's always fun Go toe for toe. I'll do it better than you. Yeah
00:23:58
Speaker
Well, Billy gets the last laugh 22 to 15 ulcer over bath. Um, I did watch, um, the Glasgow game, but it wasn't much of a game. Not really. Um, I mean, a little bit of fighting spirit for sale, but they kept making so many freaking mistakes, so many young mistakes and, you know, a young squad and, you know, diamond diamond threw them all out there and said, all right, here, you're going to learn from this somehow. So go.
00:24:22
Speaker
And Glasgow just, you know, they shall act them as they should have as they should have. And it's to nobody's surprise, but it's it was and it gave him a shot.
00:24:32
Speaker
at the very least, to get to get themselves in. But I mean, there was a Y. It took 60 minutes for sale to get on the board. And they were already getting pounded. So I was like, this is not a pretty match. Hence why I didn't pay a ton of attention to it, honestly. But it's 7 to 45 Glasgow over sale. Exeter, did you watch Exeter and Robert Shell? I did. OK.
00:24:57
Speaker
Um, I watched most of it. Okay. Um, unfortunately the, you know, sometimes the dog has to go to a real walk and, and you come back from a total hold it somewhat of a tight game to a 33, 14 match. And it's like, Oh, okay. Well, then this happened. Nevermind. Um, yeah, I mean, it didn't, it, it was, it was a good match early. Um, unfortunately Sazi, uh, it has to come off about five minutes into the La Rochelle's captain and you just kinda had the feeling
00:25:25
Speaker
that might've been a big thing. That's a, you know, it's one thing for a player to go off early, but for the captain, especially for a French side on the road. Yeah, that there's a lot of, of, of not goodness right there. And indeed, indeed, indeed. I agree. And then what was it? Yeah, but Hogg had a pretty excellent match except for the, the deliberate knock on with the woody behind him. That was the yellow card and penalty try. Oh, geez. Yeah.
00:25:55
Speaker
That's not going to that's not going to compute. Well, just I also just want them to put one thing again. It's been talked about stopping the clock during scrums so that they don't reset. I mean, Exeter fucked with a scrum for three minutes under yellow. And there was it was one scrum took three minutes. And that's a third of the yellow card time. And the referees kind of let them get away with it. Who is the official on this one?
00:26:21
Speaker
Who was the official in that one? Was Frank Murphy. Well, okay. Well, not a highly experienced referee. And then they even went to the ground like right at the hit and then he resets and then. Yeah, that's not knowing. No, both their props pulled down and went down.
00:26:43
Speaker
Yeah, that's definitely an experience and lack of right they're doing that on purpose fucking throw the garb in the air. Yeah, please Exeter do win 33 or 14. They they maintain their two spot up until sunday obviously Um still had a few games to go and a little bit a little bit of watching to do um, I will focus on the the one more early afternoon or early morning game for us early afternoon game for
00:27:08
Speaker
those folks over across the pond. Saracens and Rossing, Munster did do as they, as was expected, shellacked Osprey's at home, no shock. But they were already kind of in trouble. They were playing for nothing at this point, because Glasgow had already done what they were going to do. And no captain had won. So that was already putting at least two teams in front of them that they could not catch. Right.
00:27:29
Speaker
But to the other game, Saracens and Rossing, this had everything. This had everything. I really did have everything. I mean, obviously you have the news of the previous day, which is not easy to cope with if you're not experienced like this. Lots of, lots of unfortunate thoughts.
00:27:53
Speaker
But they, they battled back. They, you know, that takes a lot of mental toughness, um, for, for Rossing. It was fascinating that, um, they, they weathered the storm. You know, that's one of those first, first, you know, 15, 20 minutes, you know, saris are going to be coming out, you know, they're going to be riding that emotion. And, and I sometimes it doesn't take a lot to throw it a team that's that's running on that emotion off their game.
00:28:23
Speaker
No, not at all. And yes, he's got out to the hot start with the two tries. Yep. But then Rossin got back in the game because based off of kind of just completely broken up and broken up and play. Yep. And ended up tying it. And then I think they took bend up taking the lead. They didn't take the lead. And you know, Bakutawa after the Bakutawa second try, I have to say he kind of disappeared.
00:28:45
Speaker
Like somebody pointed out, you know, he's, he's immense an attack, but he does have issues with committing himself to the tackle. I'm not saying he can't tackle. What I'm saying is like, it's almost disinterested, maybe, and maybe that's the word. I don't, I don't, I'm not trying to accuse him of being lazy or anything like that because he's clearly not. No, he's not. But just sometimes you kind of turn yourself off from one part of your game and only keep yourself on for another part of the game. And that does happen. It's not an unusual thing. So yeah.
00:29:13
Speaker
I don't know if this might shock you, but I was accused of the same thing. Shocker of the day. There's a ball and there's a triliner. No, that sounds good. Hey, you want to tackle? Defense? No. No, it's boring.
00:29:31
Speaker
Fucking boring Oh man, yep Can't say it can't say that. I will blame you I suppose And then obviously the moment at the end of the first half the the well skeleton yellow card, right? It was really the red card. Excuse me You know, it was really unfortunate that it had to happen because he actually came on for Billy who broke his arm, unfortunately again shit And it was it was
00:30:01
Speaker
There's a problem with being 6'8 sometimes. Yeah, there is. And he found out the hard way, unfortunately. Was it egregious? No, but again, we've talked about it before. They're being really tight about this shit. Yeah, no, that was. That's just how it goes. Absolutely. Sucks, but it's just how it is. It was absolutely a red all day. The only part of the discussion that I didn't like was when they said there was no arms in it, when there clearly were. Nigel was good when he gave the explanation. You didn't include that, because they were clearly arms. Yeah.
00:30:27
Speaker
I was like what I think we were texting back and forth like what the fuck is the TMO and the Announcers the comms looking at there's he clearly goes to wrap his arms. So why are they focusing on that so much? But it's like oh no fucking hit him in the head. All right. He bopped him in the head That's being the real problem, right? Let's get on with it
00:30:45
Speaker
Yeah, I can't say I was sad that when when Laurier came off because he was being a problem for a good part of his day. And then there was the and then the LaRue yellow card really opened the door. It did. That really opened the door. You know, obviously, Maro had already gotten over to kind of get us get us there and get a square. And then it was like it was just squeaky bum time the rest of the way. And then the LaRue yellow card was going to pretty much ride out as a dead even match as far as players on the field.
00:31:14
Speaker
So that really opened the door for the Saracens to take over and finally do it. You got to give it to the two young wings of the Saracens. Lewington and Chagun, they seem to be a little bit on the interchangeable at this point, which is in, I mean that in the highest praise. Right. They both played amazingly well. I think they just burned the tanks on empty chasing kicks. And there was a lot of reward on there. It doesn't look like it's a lot of reward, but there is.
00:31:39
Speaker
Right and and two players that I want to point out Uh for Saracens that I could only because i've been down on them. Um, and fairly vocal about it Lowington is that well that game, you know, i've talked about him not doing little things that saris need their wings to do Uh, he did it and more so he can do it. He's learning that that that's good slowly, but surely That bodes very well found it pound it through the concrete eventually. Yeah
00:32:04
Speaker
And then, um, Duncan Taylor had a fucking amazing match. Like that might've been the best match I've seen him play in, in three years. Well, and, and when he was picked, the only thing that came to my mind, I was like, they want to try and contain Bakutawa in the middle. That's the only thing that came to mind in my brain when he was picked. Um, and maybe I don't love him. Yeah.
00:32:23
Speaker
At all times, but it made sense because you want to put put up that wall as much as you can between Shobhansi and Bakutao You you got to shut down somebody in the middle and don't not let so much through as we've seen other teams surrender Right with him. So yeah, keep it keep that in check as best you can but he played a very good all-around game and
00:32:44
Speaker
Like he wasn't just a tackling machine, which he normally is. I mean, and when I criticized Duncan Tiller, it's not so much that he's not a good defensive player because he's a great defensive player. It's that he doesn't generally add things in attack. No, no, I agree. But he did. He did. So huge part in their attack, especially in one of the last tries there.
00:33:04
Speaker
Yeah, he was fantastic. So, um, really credit, credit to Duncan tell at least, you know, it's, it's the guys like that who might not have the, you know, they might not have elite speed and they might not be able to do, you know, they're not like all thin Russell out there with magicians with the ball. Um,
00:33:21
Speaker
Well, and he was, he was. And he was. But, you know, when you can do the solid things that Duncan Taylor does, it's, and then suddenly, well, not suddenly, but hopefully consistently add to that with a good attack. It's kind of the opposite of the Vacatawa thing. Right.
00:33:39
Speaker
Go run with the ball now. That's boring. Well, I'll make tackles all day Yeah, he likes that part. God bless you for that. He and bear. I think he and bear both they do Both had good offensive or good days on attack. So yes And a result and they needed and resulted in Sarah since 27 24 went over Rossing But they had to do a little bit of scoreboard watching. Yeah, they did
00:34:03
Speaker
Obviously there was another there was another game going on as well Montpellier beat conduct 3529 I guess it was a It was a it was a last-minute try that kind of sealed the deal for Montpellier and then just a final penalty to really put the salt on it This is all I read on Twitter. I'm not reporting because I didn't watch it
00:34:21
Speaker
Yeah, I'll take your time to lose it to lose them the Gloucester Gloucester without Danny Cipriani and they won't be with him for at least another five to seven weeks Yeah, which is unfortunate for them Especially considering the season, you know, it sucks for Cipriani because was he on the cards for England? I have no idea and we probably won't find out. No, we won't But even still for his his club it would have been very useful for them him to have him in this match but also to have him in the
00:34:50
Speaker
in the, in the coming matches here, especially around the six nations for the prom. Um, and you know, there were, there were two teams watching this scoreboard. Uh, obviously Saracens were watching this scoreboard and making sure that Gloucester didn't go, uh, go smashing to lose, but Exeter also were watching this thing and make sure that it wasn't too outside on.
00:35:07
Speaker
The Toulouse part, because they would surrender their two seed. And they were not far away from surrendering it. Five points away, a try. And Toulouse wasn't far away from getting that try. No, they weren't. They were going for it, too. And they knew it. They were like, nope, we need more. We got to keep going and give them all the credit in the world. Roman and Tommac, what else? But he and Dupont, between the two of them. How are you going to hate?
00:35:32
Speaker
I can't hate France in the Six Nations this year. No. The two of them are going to be driving that bus. Yeah. I have to say. I cannot wait to see that. So I hope that's the case. And obviously England are playing them first. But I hope that's the case that we see the two of them paired up because it makes sense. They're playing together at this club. They're, you know, Intermax such a.
00:35:50
Speaker
Brilliant 10 right now obviously learning a lot of lessons from his dad playing in the midfield And Dupont is just electric, right? electric and then you look at the rest of their lineup and you're like And but then there's some great names speaking of speaking of that the the exciting matchup the electric matchup we were all waiting for
00:36:13
Speaker
Chesley Colby versus Luis Rhys-Zamit Unfortunately wasn't everything it was going it was cracked it was billed to be but the only because Rhys-Zamit got her early So I really hope he's okay. I really want to see him in the Six Nations. I You know seeing him on crutches was not not an uplifting sign. No, it was not unfortunately So hopefully that was all precautionary. Yeah, I hope so
00:36:41
Speaker
and uh if if anybody has news on that please let us know yeah please forward that to us injury news doesn't doesn't make it over here doesn't make it over here for instance we found out that nick white broke it what did he break an arm or something something like that and we didn't in the exit match yeah we didn't find out in that until we were watching the exit match and they just casually mention it oh yeah that's good knowledge please please share that with us yeah we knew yeah of course we knew yeah drink my tea i suppose
00:37:09
Speaker
Oh, man. You know, this Toulouse team does look very good. I would definitely be. They didn't get a quarterfinal last home quarterfinal last year because they were in a tough hole with Leinster.
00:37:22
Speaker
Um, I, they have one this year, obviously, and I would definitely not, they got there with, they got to the semi final without having that. Obviously they played a familiar team in Rossing. Um, but I would probably tell them to at least get to the semi-file if not to get to, um, Marseille and get to the final.
00:37:39
Speaker
So it'll be fun. 35-14, the lose over Gloucester. And so let's just have a little peeky-poo at what's going on in the quarterfinals come April.
Quarterfinal Preparation and Injury Concerns
00:37:50
Speaker
Claremont Rassing, what matchups, especially in the back line, you have
00:37:58
Speaker
You have you have Para against machino or you remember and whichever one make your pick you have Lopez against fin Russell. Oh, you have moala and toy ava against What you presume will be chevron see and vaca tawa and then the back three of each club is electric and can do anything from anywhere with likes of
00:38:21
Speaker
Teddy Tomah and Wani Moth and Simon Zebo for Rossing and then you have Raka and Abendenin and Penno for Claremont and I'm a forward and I love the forward brethren that are in that matchup as well.
00:38:37
Speaker
but that right there just screams match of the week and it'll be a dud now, but you know. Yeah, right. But, oh man. It will be extremely French. That is accurate. Let's hope that we still get the, you know, the flare. That, yep. And then to lose against Ulster, this actually might be a slightly more lopsided mess than some think, unfortunately.
00:39:06
Speaker
I'll sort of have the grit to get it done on the road, as we know, but the thing is, they need a little bit more flash. They don't quite have it outside of Cooney and Stockdale. But you know, you look across the Toulouse back line and they got it all over the place. Yeah. So it's like, it's really hard to say that.
00:39:24
Speaker
And yes, the I and some of the Toulouse forwards are gigantic. Obviously Joe to Corey is a fucking monster. You know, it's kind of big. You know, as a monster in his own right. So Rory Arnold's not short by any means. Anyway, so I think again, I think that'll probably be the most lopsided match of the weekend, unfortunately, which which sucks.
00:39:45
Speaker
I will say if I'm an Exeter and I get a home quarterfinal in the Champions Cup, my first one ever, I really don't want it to be a team that's really familiar with us. And unfortunately, that's what happened. Northampton Saints are going to be their opponents in the quarterfinal in April, which I wouldn't be all. I mean, they're excited because they get a home quarterfinal for the first time ever.
00:40:01
Speaker
But that could end up being a premiership final. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we could you work. I mean, you still got to deal with Cobus Reinach. So good luck. Yeah. If you could figure out how to solve that puzzle. Honestly, it'll be interesting because Northampton are fairly disciplined. And we all know Exeter lives off of the penalties and the kick to corner. So it's really can can they.
00:40:24
Speaker
Can they live off of that against Northampton? We shall see. It'll be interesting. It'll be very interesting. And then, oh boy, a rematch from last year's final in the Aviva in Dublin. This is kind of the culmination of the Saracens picking a team in the first week.
00:40:44
Speaker
still mostly a team the second week, even though they won. But and then obviously they only got a bonus point going into Tomin Park. And that wasn't even a great team either. But you know, Mark McCall was making other plans at this point. And obviously those have since gone away. That's just how but that's how it goes. And nothing to be nothing to be done about it. But it'll be it's still gonna be fun. Yeah, it's gonna be very interesting. It's fascinating because it's the the
00:41:09
Speaker
Really the one team I think that Lenster did not want to see at home Yeah, I wonder I wondered I was like do they really I mean they'll they'll tell you all day long that they wanted the Saracens They'll tell you all day long because nobody's gonna say otherwise. Well, you always do you want to say, you know, because look if they beat Saris That bodes so well for them for the rest of the the the the tournament Mm-hmm side note Exeter host Northampton Sunday, February 23rd. Ooh
00:41:37
Speaker
This will obviously be in the middle of Six Nations. They're gonna be missing a lot of guys, but the younger guys, we'll see how that goes. So we'll get a little preview on that. But back to Leinster and Saracens.
00:41:49
Speaker
But yeah, Leinster, I mean, obviously it's the repeat of the final last year. So it's kind of... Which was a great game. It was a great match. So it'll be good to see that. This should be the best match. No disrespect to the French sides because that'll be just a wide open game. This is going to be a little bit more of a slugfest.
00:42:12
Speaker
I think so. Saris may use some of their flair. Leinster will not because they don't have any. I don't know. We'll see. And the other thing that came out of the Leinster game, Larmor might be hurt, I think. And it might be one another that got hurt. Larmor was the name that stuck up to me though. There's still significant time between now and then.
00:42:36
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely. So as long as it's not like a major, you know, God forbid, a really bad injury. I hope it's not a really bad injury. I mean, these quarterfinals aren't until April, so. Got a little bit. We're months away. So I'm not too concerned about the injuries unless they are seriously long term. Right.
00:42:52
Speaker
I mean, we get nothing to look forward to. Right. Freejacks starting. Yeah, I can concentrate on NHL hockey and a little bit of my my soccer team over in England. And that's about it, really. I mean, I can we can watch the team that Saracen's put out. I don't know what the fuck is going to be. Yeah. Speaking of which, let's get to it.
Fantasy Rugby Tips for Premiership Week
00:43:12
Speaker
Starts it for the Premiership Week coming in. Was it around nine, around nine? Yes. Boy, are you leaving off or am I?
00:43:20
Speaker
I think you are. Okay. With Northampton. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Lots of, there's gonna be lots of question marks over this team because you're gonna probably not see any of the England guys that have been called in. And it's a matter of how mean Chris Boyd wants to be to the guys that have been called into other countries like Dan Baker.
00:43:39
Speaker
So that'll be I'm assuming he's gonna be a dick at this point Just just because most coaches are and it's not it's not it's not a knock on Boyd. It's what most coaches do They don't give the Scots and the Welsh that for the Irish They may not so that's the other thing that might be the other factors You got to pick your spots as to when this would be a dick, right? That's a fact. I'll give you that So, you know and hot shoes another name that's obviously out there as well to consider in the meantime
00:44:09
Speaker
Your starts, I actually only have only have starts for the most part for this. So the only thing I would say is caution with Tom Collins and James Grayson and TRM, if they play, everybody else that I'm gonna name, you can go ahead and start in both format. Dan Biggard, Matt Proctor, Jamie Gibson, Huch if he plays, Reinack Deux, Taimana Harrison, and Tung Kelly, Naira Avoro. Go ahead and play them.
00:44:36
Speaker
And on the other end of the spectrum here, we got a couple of ands and a couple of green lights. Automatic starts for the three, these are three guys that actually top in either TRM or both, TRM, FRD or both. Blair Cowan, Ollie Hasselkallens and Ollie Huskins. Hasselkallens is both. Cowens, actually Hasselkallens is FRD only.
00:45:00
Speaker
That's a that's a lie. Hoskins obviously is only TRM and then Tui Tui around both are actually both starts as well in both format Yeah, there starts in TRM there sits in FRDs Actually, Tui Tui might be worth a FRD start because he's a lock that plays this forward. So upside there Tom Stevenson actually is a good start in both formats and then the rest assuming that they're around like we don't know if Wysock in the hole is gonna has returned so sit him
00:45:25
Speaker
uh vital connie ben loader sit he's gonna be a popular name sit and then aden coleman sit he's definitely gonna be a popular name out there as well exit over sale um can't get away from the sharks can you know i can't uh and again once again they're they're the best fantasy defense so yeah that hasn't despite their results not being great so when i so when i when i get to who to start with exeter it's kind of uh a little bit of a crap shoot only because
00:45:56
Speaker
of the style of play that Exeter have that I mentioned before. So basically, if you have an Exeter forward, start them, because any of them might get a score. Those picking goes. There you go. It's really, you know, and you'll know you guys, I'll have to update this as we get the lineups actually announced. But you know what Exeter is going to do. So and so any one player that's 10 points right there, it gets getting over the line. Right. That changes your whole outlook.
00:46:24
Speaker
Yep for that player. So even though um yours could have the lights right even though sale are very good in the best fantasy defense, especially against forward actually gets forwards and backs but backs don't really matter for exeter um The the forwards are where you they're going to get their most fantasy points Um, you just can't not play your exeter forwards at their start I can tell you two guys that are in the top 60 of trm right now johnny hill and john from millen
00:46:51
Speaker
Right and vermulin probably won't get like the big you know, um, the the the meters and all that that he sometimes gets I guess but um He could still get over it for a try. Yep. So easily um, just because there I think I think sale are going to be on their own doorstep a lot of the a lot of this match That's a there's a good chance of that
00:47:12
Speaker
So for, uh, I would sit him in TRM, start him in FRD as, as Monder. Um, you should get these in playing time and you, you know, with those scrum halves, you never know. Um, it's worth the start in, in, uh, in FRD. Um, and then red, I, I would struggle to, I mean, you know, if Hogg's playing.
00:47:31
Speaker
Mm-hmm, maybe maybe and then Noel who? Well, I think he's hurt. Oh is he hurt? I think that's why you didn't make the England squad. That's fair Another more news that we kind of get I thought I saw something about that. Okay, that makes sense I thought it was I thought he didn't make it cuz they were full of like
00:47:48
Speaker
So then for sale there you go the front row stardom In an FRD Acumen de Merwe Yeah, yeah, he's been where was it prop? Yup, you're gonna start him and whoever's at second row. So that's JLDP Evans Phillips. Yeah, yeah play him Don't do Prius the centers and the wings so like Ashton McGuigan the James's mm-hmm. Yeah play them
00:48:17
Speaker
I would sit Robert Duprios So I heard you're doing pretty well. Yeah, he's go look at how many options how many opportunities he's gonna get in this I don't know. That's the other question Reds are going to surprise you are the curry twins in John Ross, but you don't worry about the curry twins Well, you don't have to worry about one of them one of those Ben and John Ross, right? So Ben and John Ross I would I would Park on your bench. Yep, unless you had no other option. I
00:48:42
Speaker
Fair enough. And then Worcester and Woss. This could provide some entertainment, certainly for your fantasy team. For Worcester, there are a couple of automatic starts that I would start in most situations. Duncan Weir, Perry Humphries, and Francois Hoo God. Ted Hill is obviously out, so Sam Lewis could pick up a lot of his slack, so go ahead and look at that.
00:49:07
Speaker
start nylonet don't start matt molds though he's he's not that good he's had a couple of okay ones um if johnaland ends up being the 10 i would start him in frd but i wouldn't start him in trm uh ed fiddo if he happens to get the start or tom how both of them are great starts in trm but i would not venture that way in the outside back variation of frd on the other side the wasp
00:49:30
Speaker
Um, I, you know, I saw a report with like a fucking laundry list of wasp entries. So, and I don't know if any of these guys are actually healthy now. So I'm wondering what the actual shit, any who, if they play, let's go with that, with that caveat, uh, guys that have scored well in one format or the other in, in, in, you know, top 50, Kiberige, Fekito and Minatsi, Carr, Vailanu, Robson, go ahead and greenlight them all the way.
00:49:58
Speaker
Will Rowlands, if he's not away with Wales, you can give him a start in TRM, FRD, probably pine him, because actually the Worcester aren't too bad against Locks in FRD. Tom Willis.
00:50:09
Speaker
Or Jack Willis, rather. Let's go Jack Willis, not Tom Willis. Tom Willis has played all of one game. Start him in both formats. Simon McIntyre, go ahead. Thomas Young, go ahead. And then Limon Sopuaga is probably a start in FRD, but not in TRM. He hasn't shown me enough. And I don't think Worcester are that good against him, but again, hasn't shown me enough. So FRD, you'll probably be in a pinch anyway.
00:50:34
Speaker
So go ahead and use him if you need to. Other than that, I'd get away from him in TRM.
00:50:41
Speaker
On to Beth Lester. Interesting match for many reasons. So I'm looking at this from both a fantasy and an actual rugby perspective. It's going to be interesting to me to see if Lester. So Lester have responded the last couple of weeks with their backs against the wall from from relegation. But that that wall is now gone. Yeah. It no longer. The wall does not exist anymore.
00:51:05
Speaker
So and then they're gonna lose all that a Gens Ben youngs and Ford and Ford So that's all it's not looking good for Lester in this They they actually defend tens pretty well, but they're basically shit everywhere else Bath, they're kind of the same but they're better against back three Not that it matters for this one. No, I mean this
00:51:33
Speaker
There's one there's one or two I might start uh, so for for bath Everyone whoever they're 15 is if you have them on your roster Mike mcconaughey would be one I'd definitely go out there rocking to uni and so off to see off that about a pretty good list based on on
00:51:51
Speaker
the lineup for the match, but, um, I'm, I'm, if you have a bath player on your, on your, uh, on your roster, play him. If you have a, an opening because of, uh, six nations disappearance or whatnot, feel free to fill them with a bath player. It's not the worst option you could have. Um, as far as, as far as Lester go, um, their front row.
00:52:17
Speaker
Um, maybe without Genge, I don't know, but I would still, I would still start their front row. Okay. And, and Tom Young's in, uh, TRM and, and, and Callum green. Ooh. Um, for the Reds, for Lester, our Aloha fellow and Jonah Holmes. Um, because Beth, I think we're going to do very well against the back three and kind of shut those guys down. Okay. That's why I mentioned that earlier.
00:52:38
Speaker
There you go, fair enough. At least you threw that in there a little bit. So Bristol and Gloucester, this actually could be a fun match depending on how things break. There's a couple of names that are automatic starts because they're so good either in one format or the other and I wouldn't bat an eye at starting them either.
00:52:56
Speaker
Charles Pyotel, Callum Sheedy, Nathan Hughes, Piers O'Connor, Luke Morahan. Definitely an FRD, TRM. You could probably use a little caution with that one, but still, you're probably okay to start them. Chris Vue, Harry Thacker. Yes, the Thack is back. And Stephen Lewittu are guys that you could roll out there freely.
00:53:13
Speaker
Thacker might be a little motivated. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. You know, going back now, actually, I think I'm going to backtrack on the Steven Luitua. His FRD listing is Loose Forward. E. Little shady. TRM, go ahead. I mean, he's awesome as a, you know, I play him at lock, even though he obviously is a Loose Forward. But yeah, go ahead and feel free to play that.
00:53:39
Speaker
Luke Hamilton is a is probably the hell was he? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Now we're in good shape. Matt Prothero is probably an okay start in FRD. Joe Joyce is an okay start in TRM and Luke Hamilton's an okay start in TRM. If for whatever reason
00:53:56
Speaker
You know what, play you whatever bristle scrum half rolls out there. How about that? Especially in FRD. Especially in FRD. It'll be Randall, I assume. I would just hope so. Because urine's in the doghouse. Yeah, I would hope so. So that said, Gloucester and Gloucester are actually a tough out against most fantasy outfits here. But they do, and they have a good list of their own high-end starters that you can start without batting. And I, Tom Marshall, Ruan Ackerman, Jason Woodward,
00:54:25
Speaker
resubmit if he plays a high-end caveat on that one, so just be cautious with that one. Seek a backup just in case. Mark Atkinson, Chris Harris, Ben Morgan, Franco Moray, all of them, green lights in both formats, or whichever one they happen to be playing in, so not so much.
00:54:46
Speaker
Joe Simpson or Willie Hines are probably, not Willie Hines, obviously. He's in the England squad. Joe Simpson, yes, go ahead. Give him a whirl in both formats. He actually did really well in both formats, so off you go. Franco Mostert, TRM, and Jaco Creel, if he ends up being one of those fill-ins in the back row, is probably not a bad option. Lewis Ludlow, same thing in TRM. The only one of those guys I'd probably feel okay with in,
00:55:12
Speaker
FRD would be I think Ludlow Creole doesn't start enough. So I don't have enough Gut feeling to tell you yes or no Let's see where we're still against They're not necessarily notable against loose forward so they you know take that for whatever it's what kind of mid of the pack Yeah, so there you go
00:55:34
Speaker
Last match of the weekend, Quinn's versus Saracen's. We'll see what this is. This'll at least come to a boil for sure at some point. I'm assuming there may be handbags involved.
00:55:48
Speaker
But it's going to be difficult because of the changing lineups. But there are certain guys who you're just going to have in there if they're playing. I had him as a yellow earlier, as far as maybe hold onto him in TRM, but start him in an FRD. I'm moving him now into a full-on green. Start him if you got him. And then Alex Donbrandt is
00:56:14
Speaker
I think the Dom Brandt revenge tour starts now. The fuck you not going to pick me after all that shit. And I say that only because Saracens are fantastic against eight men. I think Dom Brandt is going to say fuck you to that and perform very well. Anyway, Marcus Smith should have a day. Stephen Lewis, and then if he's healthy, Paul Isikke.
00:56:39
Speaker
for the guys who are, I'd hold off on TRM, but if you got him an FRD, play him. Ibetoye and Danny Care. Danny Care also, maybe another one who might be a little bitter about, again, being left off. Yeah. He's not, Jones is favorite. No, he's not.
00:56:56
Speaker
Yeah, by any means whatsoever apparently he does not like uh scrum has who have give good service. Yeah, apparently not although he likes will he hide so I don't know what I mean, um, I Don't start the quinn's front row, especially not ruin without those problems. Uh, ilea ilea is uh, No, keep him on your bench and in trm. He's banged up. Anyway, um, well even better Yeah, even better reason there you go. Uh, and then chisholm lade and morris, uh, keep them
00:57:24
Speaker
Off your team off your starters. There you go for the Saris start the front row in in FRD Singleton in TRM if you got them Pick up for a couple weeks going on. I look up his price
00:57:40
Speaker
Nick Izziquay, if he's a lock, start him. Nick Tompkins, if he's playing, also a start. I wouldn't sign them for TRM, but if you want to use him in FRD, Roddy Sagan, there's a good start. He might even be good at this point for TRM.
00:57:59
Speaker
Yeah, you don't know and then maitland, uh, if he's playing uh, someone who I would probably hold off on on trm, but but frd on frd so Yeah, is equal if he's at flank just no don't don't bother and then jackson ray and calum clark. I I Depending on who is it flank? I think yeah, I love them both, but they just don't produce. Yeah singleton's 252
00:58:32
Speaker
No, not quite, 393. He's close. Right on the edge. Okay, pick him and then. We got the start of the week, said Luis. Oh, duh. This is why we have two of us. One of us will pick up the screw up eventually. Start of the week. My start of the week, low hanging fruit, way too easy. He's playing at a team that's not feeling good about themselves. He's on fire. Cobus Ryan.
00:58:48
Speaker
So it might not be a bad replacement the next couple of weeks in TRM not nearly as much as jinx's jinx's
00:59:01
Speaker
Shocker of the day, I know. My start of the week, we're sticking the same position. A guy who I don't think, if you laid money down on anybody that I would pick throughout the year, you would never pick this, you'd lose money on this every day. Will Chudley.
00:59:17
Speaker
Oh, oh, for bath for bath. Okay. I mean, I like, I like the player. Yeah. I think he's going to have a decent day. I think that we're going to have a very decent day. Okay. Um, I think that, you know, if we, if you look at it, uh, you know, the way the standings are, um, Beth still have something to play for Lester. Really don't. Yeah. Not sure they're making top six and they definitely ain't making top four.
00:59:41
Speaker
Right. And they don't have to worry about being relegated. So there's nothing, there's no fire behind them. Um, I could see Chudley putting together a little bit of a fantasy performance that'll, that'll help your team out. So that's one to watch, especially if he's, if he, if maybe you have him as a reserve, uh, I doubt you'd have him as your, your full-time starter. I think this is the time to, to elevate him for this match.
01:00:02
Speaker
Very well, sir, very well. So at this point, sale's a thing. Sale being the best defensive team in fantasy is a thing. Despite the fact that their performances on the field aren't necessarily superb, their defense in fantasy is no longer, really can't be questioned anymore. So with that, I'm going to go ahead and say one of the darlings early on of the fantasy world and rugby for the prem, City of the Week, Johnny Hill.
01:00:31
Speaker
Ooh, that's making quite the statement. It's possible he gets over. It's one of those, the same reason why I said start all the five or all the forwards. But yeah, he's also slowed down a little bit. Yes, and again, sale, it's a thing. Yeah, I'm not questioning it. I think that's just bold. My start of the week, my set of the week, sorry, is I think equally bold and it's from the same match. And I'm going to go with John O. Ross.
01:00:59
Speaker
Oh, oh, okay. Okay. That right there, uh, Exeter do well against forwards. Um, and I realized that I, and well, I don't realize I'm, I believe that Ross gets most of his points defensively. Um,
01:01:15
Speaker
But I think that Exeter are going to do a good job of keeping out of that and also breaking tackles on those pick and goes, kind of riding that wave of contact and then trying to get around the outside rather than just accepting the tackle. I don't see him. He might have a high tackle count, but I don't think he'll get 100%.
01:01:36
Speaker
Um, and I don't think he's going to do too much on attack. So, uh, yeah, I'm gonna take John Ross. Um, you know, unless you have no other options, uh, bench him. Yeah. Right. Um, of his average of 21 ish. Yeah. He gets, um, 17 from defense. Right. So that's, that's. So he does get the majority of him from the defense. Yeah. And 21 is not a terribly high average. No, it's not. So, uh, yeah, he's guy, I would not expect a 20 point match out of him.
01:02:06
Speaker
There you go. Okay. Now we can go to pick them. Yes, let's do that Okay North Hampton London Irish, uh, I don't think there's a question I don't care who's playing for that. No, it's empty team. I'm going with the saints. I am too
01:02:22
Speaker
Uh, Exeter and sale. This is at Sandy Park. So I gotta, I think, I think it's going to be the Chiefs. And after the news this past week, I think we're going to have a little bit, a little bit of a fire up their bum. Yeah, I agree. So, especially at home. Yep. Against a team that could, could beat them. I don't know. Depends. They're going to be well rested. That's the, that's the upside. Right. They definitely didn't play all their big guys. Um, Worcester and Wasp. Oh boy. Um,
01:02:51
Speaker
Geez, I really don't think either of these can we put down drop? My instincts are saying boss. God damn it minor to fuck as much as I yeah damn I mean Are they really losing anyone to six nations launch? And are they yelling anyone and Thomas Thomas young?
01:03:12
Speaker
Yeah, but he hasn't really played that much for them. Anyway, this year. No, he hasn't played a ton. So I'm gonna go with wasps. Okay. And Jacob. Um, I go with they know they have a, they, we both know they have a, a ready made replacement for him with soap water. So yeah, we'll see how he does. He's okay. Yeah. He's not too bad. Bath and Lester bath.
01:03:31
Speaker
Yep. No, I even spelled Lester's name wrong. Good job Jared. You fucking idiot. No, they spelled their name wrong. I'm going. You tried to get her. I'm going with the bath. Bristol Gloucester. This will be actually fun. I just don't see Gloucester as much as, you know, their side piece, although I'm really liking Bristol these days too.
01:03:55
Speaker
Without that cipriani I really how do they do it? I don't see they do especially on the road Yeah, i'm not i'm not Thrilled with backing Gloucester. So we'll see if it's owen williams at 10 or lloyd evans at 10 because owen williams I think made the whale squad. So We'll see. We'll see how much you'll employed in this game, too That'd be nice We'll see
01:04:19
Speaker
I'm gonna go I actually I'm gonna go with the cherry and whites Oh cuz unfortunately before the break Bristol were kind of floundering a little bit. Yeah, they were so I'm just not certain that losing Cipriani is gonna help that any no, I agree, but we'll see
01:04:35
Speaker
We'll see what rocks up with the cherry and whites here. Quinn's and Saracen's at the stoop. I don't know what team Saracen's are putting out. Unfortunately, I'm going to go with a team that I really don't like, but I have to because I'm trying to pick with my brain here. I'm going to go with the Quinn's.
01:04:56
Speaker
I'm still going to go with the Saris because I think from 1 to 15, they're still going to be able to put out a better team than the Quinn's team. We'll find out what that team looks like. Especially because the Quinn's without that front row. Right.
01:05:11
Speaker
You know that I mentioned guys who who are going to start going to put up some fantasy points I mean marco smith's been outstanding. Um, and dom brand is going to be a beast but without the other National side players there to bolster the team. Uh, I think it's going to be difficult for those individuals to to
01:05:32
Speaker
do everything they need to do just themselves to win. And I'm not sure that that Quinn's have the firepower one through 23 to match with the Saracens. Right. Yeah, I just don't know what the mindset is going to be. I mean, I know the Saracens are mentally tough. You know, they've been made into a mentally tough squad long ago. Right. But yeah, I just don't know what kind of team they're going to put out. So yeah, couldn't couldn't help but pick it and pick what feels like not momentum, just, you know,
01:06:01
Speaker
Yeah, i'm just not i'm not convinced by the quins. They're not to me They're not a team at this point that I can look at and say yeah, they're gonna win at home No matter what? Uh, and then again with with the players that they're going to be missing I don't think it bodes well for them
01:06:16
Speaker
Right. Yeah. So we will have we'll have a nice Six Nations preview
Live Draft Episode Announcement and Six Nations Preview
01:06:23
Speaker
next week. We'll recap the program real quickly next week. And then we'll and then we'll talk about Six Nations. We'll have a live draft. We'll have a live draft episode coming out this weekend. So if you're not sure what mistakes to make, just pay attention to our draft and don't drop the people we drop. And we will be back next week with our old friend James. Don't donate to the rugby mag. Please, please don't don't make me come out there and beat the shit out of you for it. All right.
01:06:45
Speaker
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01:07:40
Speaker
Until then, everybody have yourself a good evening. I'll talk to you later. Cheers.