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Episode 18 Part 2-Super Rugby Round 1 Preview
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In part 2 of episode 18, we are looking at the opening weekend of Super Rugby along with a recap of the action from the women’s 6 nations. There are some big names not starting this weekend so we have some thoughts to consider for those that are stuck in a bind. Is this the year the Lions finally break through or does the Kiwi conference continue to reign supreme? What do you do when you’re down a man like Sam Lousi for a long layoff? Tune in here to find out what our thoughts are. Also, we don’t LOVE this South Africa conference by any means, but you have to love some of those jerseys they’re using to kick off the weekend. Did France get sucked into some of the bad juju that came with their men’s team? Of course, we take our best shot at Leather Ball Pick ‘Em for Super Rugby. We’re just getting going with this competition so stay tuned in the weeks to come.
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Transcript
Introduction to Episode 18: Super Rugby Focus
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey guys, it's Jared from the Fantasy Rugby Yanks. This is part two of episode 18. Round one of Super Rugby is upon us and we are excited to talk about Super Rugby again and our fantasy teams and fantasy advice and everything that we can in Super Rugby. Thanks for coming along, kick back, enjoy.
Lineup Changes: All Blacks Benched Impact
00:00:27
Speaker
First week of fantasy super rugby season is upon us. And we've already got some player issues because there's been some lineups that have been announced, some haven't been yet. Right. You know, a lot of all blacks have been dropped for from their squads either to the bench or entirely. A lot of people in our league certainly have picked all blacks for good reason. Right. Long term. Yeah.
00:00:53
Speaker
So it's gonna be a matter of a little bit of you know playing you know chop and change for your For your back line, especially for me, you know, I have both my scrum halves are on the bench for the teams Which isn't
Sunny Bill Williams: Consistency Concerns
00:01:08
Speaker
bad. So if I really really have to I could really really I could roll with one one of them being Aaron Smith Which isn't terrible by any means. Yeah
00:01:15
Speaker
Um, but then you have you know, the likes of sunny bill williams, which i'm sure some people are counting on You know go find yourself another midfielder because he's sunny bill has been inconsistent though the past couple years anyway as far as Willier won't he play on a week-to-week basis? Yeah, that's not somebody that I would Be that would if he if he I had him on my team and I don't for this reason
00:01:37
Speaker
Is he you know There's going to be at least a handful of weeks where he just doesn't play whether he's doing something else He's boxing or yeah, or yeah, or he's you know, it gets sort of he's getting a little up there He's gonna need his rest and yep
00:01:57
Speaker
He's not going to be a week in week out player. He's not somebody you can just pencil in and say, yep, I don't have to worry about him anymore. So for him to not be playing first week, I don't think that whoever would own him should be planning for that.
00:02:11
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. If you if you're starting sunny bill as you're, you're in your leaning on him a week to week basis, be prepared to make a lot of chopping chains. Yeah, you're gonna you're really, really gonna regret that. Because again, yeah, he's obviously a very quality player. There's no doubting about that. But you know,
00:02:28
Speaker
the way he plays, he's gonna miss time. Yeah, absolutely. There's no Yeah, you can't you if you don't know that by now, and you haven't watched enough of Sunnyville to understand that. Yeah.
Sam Lousi's Injury: Fantasy Implications
00:02:38
Speaker
Sam lousy with with big injury for the hurricanes probably their best second row. If you had him, you are probably you hopefully were smart enough to grab a second lock behind that right if you need kind of injury cover. I feel like locks are
00:02:56
Speaker
I mean, you only start one. So it's not as though there's, especially in our league, what do we have 10? Yeah, we have 10 people. So how many and how many starting locks are there? Oh, there's a bunch. So, you know, you're gonna find a starting lock. Yeah. You know, it's not the worst. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, I think it's worse for the team than it is for fantasy.
00:03:19
Speaker
Yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, because they're the hurricanes are talking about, you know, they don't really have another starting block right now. That's played a lot of super rugby. I'm surprised that there's a Barrett that's not on the hurricane. Yeah, Scott, I actually have Scott. I actually have Scott. Yeah, in this situation. Yeah, but you and you have the likes of Rory Arnold, Sam Carter out there are his name and who's not playing this weekend, but he's out there. You know, I'm looking at our league right now.
00:03:46
Speaker
This there is enough out there that you don't need to completely lose your brain But you're if you want to hang on to lousy You're gonna have to set because this isn't like one of those leagues where you have a spot to write put an injured person You're gonna have to sacrifice a bench spot every week. So you're either hanging on to just one lock every week or your
00:04:08
Speaker
Yeah, what do you make
Brodie Retallick: To Keep or Drop?
00:04:10
Speaker
of that? Would you rather hang on to one lock that's functional every week and put him on the bench? Or would you rather have two functional locks and drop him?
00:04:19
Speaker
Well, looking at my team, I only have Brody Retaliq. He's my only lock on my team. And so I would have to make a decision if he's not playing to either sign another one or drop Brody or what have you, which I'm obviously not dropping Brody. I picked him in like the third round or fourth round or something. Well, he wasn't an early pick, but he was
00:04:44
Speaker
Yeah, he's probably still his top six pick or so. So he's going to be somebody that he's going to stay on my team. I invested too much draft capital in him to drop him. So I could probably sort something else out. But yeah, that's not something that I would start. If I only had, instead of the top scoring lock, if I had somebody, fifth or sixth,
00:05:10
Speaker
Yeah, I'd probably think about yeah cutting and and picking it back up because it's really about you know, you release somebody The question is is that person still gonna be available when when you need him back? Yeah, and I have a feeling that For locks that yeah, I think yeah, he'll be other I don't think anybody's gonna pick up, you know Yeah, if I if I cut Brody Retalek, I think the entire league would be jumping on him. Yeah to sign him in immediately Yeah, he's not one of those ones you're jumping on it
00:05:39
Speaker
Yeah, and um, I haven't seen the extent of the injuries that he says pretty nasty So he may not even be available till the end of the year. So right that might be something Yeah, you definitely drop him and then pick him back up a better one. Yeah Yeah, because I I mean I have to I have sam white lock and I have scott barrett the two crusaders locks two of They have like four guys they rotate in so i'm just banking on one of those guys landing in the starting lineup every week Yeah, um, yeah crusaders haven't really stayed a lineup
Crusaders' Midfield Strength
00:06:05
Speaker
yet. I do know that i'm gonna have to um
00:06:08
Speaker
I am going to have the the services of Ma Nanu this week who has said that he wants to play for the all blacks again and I mean for the all blacks you can't be mad about that by any means no I mean can you
00:06:23
Speaker
They're not the same guys. They used to be obviously but just in our and they did this in 11 I think it was when it was my Nanu or maybe it was 15 to it was Nanu and Sunny bill as Starter and bench player and I was like that is not fair. That is not fair Like to have to deal with Nanu all the all game and then oh here comes Sunny bill, right? I was like, oh man That is not good
00:06:51
Speaker
Right. They complement each other so well. Yeah. In terms of their style of play, in terms of us, you know, you can prepare. You have to prepare differently for each of them. Yeah. And they're both units too. They're both just absolute units. Right. Imagine you're starting at 12 for your home country. Like, oh, this is great. And you look out across the field and it's like, nadu. I don't want to. Okay. I don't want to. Wait, they're taking him out of the game. Oh, that's great. Fuck. Sunny bill. No.
00:07:18
Speaker
That's just not fun. I don't want any. That's not even fair. Can I quit? White flag. I wave. I wave. I'm done. Get me out of here. My ankle is not feeling quite right. Yeah, right. Coach. Coach. Coach, get me off. Why? Crap. My pride doesn't hurt yet, but I know it will. It's about to, among other things. Oh, man. That was just not fair. And then...
00:07:47
Speaker
Yeah, the one the one lineup i'm definitely waiting on because not only because they're my team but um hurricanes Vince also, you know my namesake Um, I I hope he's I hope he's starting uh But it sounds like that. They're thinking tj parinara is not gonna be the starting lineup, but this one either So son of a bitch. Yeah bad news for you. So my I hope you got a backup scrum half. That's ready to roll. Uh, yeah, moses sarovi
00:08:12
Speaker
Okay. Well, you better make
Super Rugby's Challenges: Geography and Economics
00:08:14
Speaker
sure he's playing. Yeah, better. Otherwise, you're gonna need another one. I might, yeah, like I said, I might just roll with Aaron Smith on the bench, being on the bench for the Highlanders and hoping that... It's one week. Yeah. Hoping that things work out all right. It's a long season. Yeah, it is a long season. That's true. There's a lot of rounds. Yeah. Lots and lots of rounds because each conference team plays each other once.
00:08:34
Speaker
And then twice rather home and away and they play one conference Completely like they'll play every every one of those teams. So BC and we'll see what happens with this with these guys. Yeah, I It's hard to not pick a Kiwi team to win win the whole damn thing of course, yeah, yeah, it's it's incredibly hard not to
00:09:01
Speaker
So in your opinion, which Kiwi team takes it? Is this a three-peat for the Crusaders and they're back to their old dynasty? Or is there anyone? I don't see, I think at least in New Zealand to me, it'll come down to Crusaders and Hurricanes. Yeah.
00:09:27
Speaker
chiefs could could slide in there. Give me a Mac. So good. Yep. Yes, he is. And they have such a good cast around him too. Yeah, he does. But they so so to me, they're, they're a dangerous team.
00:09:42
Speaker
I'm not sure. I don't think they play 15 is one as well as some of the other teams. I think they're a little loose with the ball. They're much more of the almost they're looking for flash. Yeah. Very much the islander. Keep that ball alive. Keep it running or keep it moving around. Yeah, you're not wrong on that.
00:09:58
Speaker
So that's both a help and a hindrance. It makes them fucking scary to go against because you never know what they're going to do to you. I don't know that they have the, again, the structure and the 15 is one.
00:10:15
Speaker
Capabilities to really put away a team when it comes down to it, you know, it's the last 10 minutes of a match You're playing against Crusaders for you know, the right to go to the the final to the final. Yeah You know if it's a tight game I'm thinking the Crusaders pull away with it just because they're gonna have the the ability to communicate and I mean and work together towards a common goal rather than the you know, a little bit
00:10:44
Speaker
Uh, but, um, and, and for the, for the record, so we've been, I've been following super rugby for not too long. I've been watching them off and on over the years, but not following any, any competition at all, really in particular until recently and, and to really get an understanding of it.
00:11:04
Speaker
I've been following a couple of different teams. Um, I had the, uh, so that, uh, not the toss. Uh, yeah, that was a couple of years ago. Um, which annoyed the hell out of me. Last year, last year I went with the blues. Wow. What a fricking hex that was. So, so I'm, I have put my, my, apparently my, my Ben Glauser hex on the cheese on the cheese this year. So if you have an issue, he's the guy to talk to, not me. That's my fault.
00:11:34
Speaker
Um, but yeah, so i'm backing the chiefs this year. I want to like, you know, see what life's like with the chiefs I mean, I I like the pieces that they have. I really love damey mckenzie. He's yeah, it's hard to not it's hard to not like him how they model was he's going to be out for a couple weeks, but you know
00:11:51
Speaker
And Retallica, I love that place. That man is ugly. Hey, he makes up for it. He does, obviously, in many ways. Fucking year that he is. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to following them and seeing what they have. Although I will be purchasing at least two South African club jerseys. Oh, yeah. The superhero jerseys. The superhero jerseys. Yeah. Those are really cool. Fucking mint. Those are really cool. Two of them are. Yeah. Captain America. The Captain America for the Bulls. I'll be getting then.
00:12:19
Speaker
And then the sharks, I think it is for the black panther. Yeah. Yeah. The black panther one looks really, really cool. It really does. I like it. The Spider-Man kind of it's not quite right. They botched it a little bit. And the Thor. I couldn't figure out. I forgot which one it was. I was like, wait, which one is that? Oh, that's Thor. I'm ready. I mean, there was nothing that maybe this makes me a bad comic bookie. Nothing stood out about it that said Thor to me. So unless I got a better look, maybe I just didn't get a good look at it.
00:12:45
Speaker
No, it's it's just his like, you know, his chest with the cape thing. Yeah. Yeah. I just couldn't quite see it. It's not terribly distinctive. If you didn't know it was a superhero, like if you just were looking at it, yeah, maybe that's maybe that's true. Like the Spider-Man one, you know. Hey, it's kind of like Spider-Man, except it has all the logos I know that are getting in the way and distracting it.
00:13:05
Speaker
Oopsie, but yeah, you look at the captain america, you know, that's captain america. Yeah Black panther you that's black panther. Absolutely. So I will be purchasing a couple of those. Yeah supporting south africa, which I never expected that would happen. Yeah, right um before we gonna depict them is
00:13:21
Speaker
Is there something that can be done?
Player Exodus for Better Pay
00:13:23
Speaker
For the mass exodus that continues to happen for super rugby and I know macaw made a comment on like, you know and To me it was just focusing on the kiwis for a second um to me What it does? Um, it's good and bad because you lose your the player the high quality players that want to be paid well Because you can't pay them well
00:13:47
Speaker
But it also means that the guys that are sticking around Want to wear that fern? Yes, and you know, that's that's a good thing for them Australia's got a different animal to deal with where they have three contact sports that they have to compete with players for And plus you have some guys that are leaving and end up qualifying for other countries on top of it So, you know, that's weird. South Africa's got a completely different dynamic going on with that with a lot of things going on that
00:14:12
Speaker
That don't just have to do with rugby or sport. There's a lot of issues going on with there That's not something we can get into right here. But um, it's all at least for for super rugby. It's all economics And then you look at yes. South Africa has its its socio-economic issues whereas really with with uh Australia and new zealand it's purely economic and and it's they're they're isolated um, it's
00:14:39
Speaker
difficult to get the same type of sponsorships and tv deals that you get from the the european countries and even in the u.s because
00:14:54
Speaker
You know, when those matches are happening, this is part of the reason why I haven't been following super rugby too closely is because you have to, you know, you can't watch a live match unless you stay up. You're right. So you kind of lose out on it. Half the time you're, you're, you're watching a match and you already know the outcome because you were an idiot and you went on social media. I have to unfollow the hurricanes the night before they play. Right. You wake up and you're like,
00:15:20
Speaker
Oh, what's going on in the world? Oh, fuck. Damn, I didn't want to see that. Right. So you know what's happening. It's just really difficult to get that, to translate that to the type of TV money that they're going to need to compete economically for the players. Yeah, it is. But here's the thing.
00:15:44
Speaker
You know, rugby is such a bigger sport for the people of New Zealand, and to an extent for Australians. As you said, they still have Aussie rules. And league. And league, which are big there. And I mean, I've been to, I used to travel to Melbourne a lot for work. I worked with a company just outside Melbourne, and it just wasn't a rugby. No.
00:16:14
Speaker
Town like I would see like a handful of people and maybe one of the people I was working with my my one of my Colleagues who was working for that company? Who was like we would talk rugby whenever I visited. Yeah, but everyone else is like, yeah, it's not really the You know in Melbourne, it's it's footy. They love so there's the competition for that in Australia that that's not New Zealand and
00:16:36
Speaker
So it really to me is that that economics, they can't afford to pay those players. So yeah, guys are going to have to come to that decision. I know a lot of them are after this World Cup. Right. And that's been obviously very much the news. That's not going to hurt New Zealand in the long run. Yeah, they're going to lose a couple of quality players. But you can't tell me that there's not 10 guys ready to take their place right behind them.
00:17:00
Speaker
Yeah, especially guys that already put their hand up and put that black shirt on yeah, so it's
00:17:08
Speaker
It's a problem for New Zealand in that they can't retain a lot of their top talent. Like Surveyo. Right. Julian, not Artie. Artie, we signed. Attaboy, Artie. So it's an issue, not a problem, I'd say, because they're still going to be the best team in the world. Yeah, there's still going to be a team that you look at and go, oh, shit.
All Blacks in the US: The Haka's Appeal
00:17:29
Speaker
Right, this team's here, especially when the hockey rolls out. All of a sudden, things change a little bit. Right around that.
00:17:37
Speaker
I did hear some talk about stifling it during matches, and I was like, no. There are people like us here in the US, and there's a lot of good things about being a rugby fan in the US. But us here in the US, when those guys roll through, like they did in Chicago a handful of years ago, you went to that match because motherfucker, you wanted to see that goddamn thing. And the one in Chicago that they did against Ireland,
00:18:03
Speaker
A couple years ago as well, right you went to that match because you wanted to see that freaking thing because you know, it's just gonna yeah When I was at the uh, you know, it gives you you know, bing. Oh absolutely Cutting glass over here. Yeah, no kidding the uh among other things. Yeah, I went to the uh, the game in philly a couple years ago the the mario blacks versus the eagles and
00:18:27
Speaker
That when when they went into the haka the whole crowd started chanting usa usa the whole way through and um, it was interesting to see the mixed reaction there were there was reaction from american fans and a couple other
00:18:44
Speaker
You know non, you know or non-us Non kiwi fans who were like, uh, it's kind of disrespectful and because you know, you want we want to see the haka like you said Yeah, and whereas I saw the interviews with the players after the match and they were like that was awesome That's what we want. You want we're challenging you
00:19:03
Speaker
So if we were the team and the fans were saying this is what we're laying down and he's like the fans I don't remember who it was but they were saying like the fans responded they they answered the challenge that's what we want and it's like awesome you know that's what this should be you know there was nothing negative we weren't booing them because you don't know but we were saying that's disrespectful right we were supporting our side against what they were were bringing to us and then the way that we could
00:19:29
Speaker
So that was a fantastic moment. I was I was happy to be to experience that Absolutely. No, that's what makes the game great. And then, you know, every club rugby Team has that one place. We should do something like a hockey before the day Shut up, we don't have enough Islanders on this team, let alone Kiwis to make this thing even really mean. Oh, I remember I played for a club outside Philly very
Fantasy Rugby Picks for Opening Weekend
00:19:53
Speaker
uh
00:19:53
Speaker
very suburban club let's say yeah and we were trying to figure out how what what our version of oc would be like i'm sure it looked pretty ridiculous right it would be like all right how do i don't bunch of white guys like it wouldn't be there no it would be like what would be ours would be like okay we get a starbucks cup we you know we get in our super rooms yeah right yeah yeah nope doesn't work doesn't work guys
00:20:22
Speaker
All right, let's do pick them for our first weekend of Super Rugby. You got a little room to catch up still. Totally out our asses on this one. Yep. Oh, yeah. And I'm four games up on you now. I'm going to point that out every time until I get my mind on it. Well, I'm done picking France, so. Yeah, maybe that'll give you a hand when we come back to that. By the way, James has said you would love to come back. So James, if you're listening, we're looking forward to having you back sometime in the next couple of weeks, buddy.
00:20:52
Speaker
Okay, Friday Night Frixtures, start with the Kiwis, Chiefs and Highlanders. Well, at this point, you know, I can't start off my season of Chiefs. No, you can't. I'm going for the Chiefs. Yeah, both these teams made the playoffs last year, if I remember right.
00:21:10
Speaker
Oh, and also this is going to create a season of chef's joke for me. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's awesome. Yeah, that's a good thought. Yeah, hard to go against the boys in my kudos. I'm going to go with the Chiefs. And then over to over the pond to Australia, Brumby's and Rebels.
00:21:32
Speaker
This way Cooper's starting for the for the rebels I saw the lineup it looks you know, I was about to pick the rebels right until then I'm gonna pick the ribs
00:21:44
Speaker
You going Rebels? Yes. Yeah, me too. I think Clay Cooper brings that X factor. Him and Will Ginnia partnered up. I don't think Ginnia is necessarily starting, but he'll be on the bench. But it should be a very interesting thing to see what's going on with that. And I'm sure Michael Cheka will have an eye on that as well. I'm sure he will. So that'll be interesting. defending champs travel first week, going to Auckland to tick on the blues.
00:22:08
Speaker
Yeah. I, of course, again, now that I've, I've dropped the blues, well, at least I've not dropped them. I've just moved on. Um, I'm sure that they're going to pick the, pick up where the, the Todd's left off and do well, and do well. Uh, not this match though. No, probably not. No, I, I, I'm not picking against the crusaders. Not until I see them, you know, I need to see them bleed first.
00:22:34
Speaker
Yeah, right. They bleed! All right, this one actually might cause some interesting things. Taz in Australia hosting the hurricanes. And as you said, the hurricanes, we don't know yet what their lineups look like, but it's looking like TJ's not starting. Yeah, and who knows what other all Blacks are sitting for them, so this will be interesting. And I think that the Taz, again, this is we talked about with Bristol v. Wasps earlier,
00:23:04
Speaker
as favorable a matchup against the hurricanes as they're ever going to get. Yeah, probably true. So I'm going to pick the toss. Okay. I don't know where you're picking. Come on, hurricanes. Come on, canes. Let's go.
00:23:22
Speaker
Yeah, I'll take I'll take my boys. I believe as long as I'm looking at this correctly, this is this next one's played in Japan, some wolves and sharks will be interesting. Sharks should have Robert de Priya back and ready to go. He'll be raring to go after playing pretty darn well for the other sharks sale. Right. So he was have something in the tank. Right. He was pretty pretty impressive there. Very.
00:23:51
Speaker
I'm going to go the opposite of what I, of, uh, what I said earlier with the, with the crusaders is I'm not going to pick against them until I see them bleed. I'm not going to pick the sun wolves at home again until they, they proved to me that they're, you know what I mean? There's certain teams that I would, I'll pick them. Yeah. Not the sharks. No, probably not. Sharks were probably just on the cusp of getting into it last year. Um, I didn't make Anthony happy.
00:24:19
Speaker
Yep, I know it. I know it. I wonder if he listens. Probably not. Yeah, I gotta go. Robert Dupree is my starting fly half. Yeah, that'll make my life a little easier. I'm going sharks. This will be an interesting one. Bulls and Stormers. Bulls without John Mitchell for the first time. And Stormers with...
00:24:42
Speaker
I thought they had a pretty good team last year. I was sad to see them just not rock up in some of the games. And especially with Cia Calisi as their captain and as their leader. But they have some good stuff, but Bulls have some good stuff too with the guys like Diaga and his name is not playing in this match. But Pollard, obviously a very good one.
00:25:03
Speaker
Yeah, and this is and our old friend Scott Britz is starting for the Bulls But yet so again, I'm not I'm not huge into to South African their conference
00:25:22
Speaker
So this one makes it a little bit tough for me. So i'm i'm just gonna go with the home squad here Dang it with the bulls. I'm gonna go with the bulls. Um, if I don't know much about either of the two teams
00:25:36
Speaker
Yeah. I'm going to leave. Yeah. Our old buddy. Yeah. Mr. Scott. Um, those that don't remember Scott Brits did play for the Sarah since come into last year, but he decided to retire then unretire pulled a breath fire.
00:25:53
Speaker
Hey, well, if they pay you. Yeah. Oh, well, you know, and he wanted to go back to home. I want you want to go back to it. Sharks is where you originally came from. OK. I think that's where he originally came from. And they didn't really offer him anything. So he's just like and Bulls did. So he's like, all right, I'm I'm I'm playing for you guys. There you go. All right. I will go with the Stormers, actually.
00:26:16
Speaker
See a Khaleesi inspires them to win. Yeah Alright last game of the weekend probably be on in at a reasonable time. We can watch live because right I think it's gonna be Buenos Aires the Jaguars and the Lions Lions being the
00:26:31
Speaker
Third time, three time runners up. Right. Oh, man. Are they going to break the hex this year? Did Chinchy's get a new haircut or is he still rocking the? I think he's still rocking that kind of really terrible looking lid. It's ugly. It is. It's terrible. It's so hot. It's so hideous. I can't. I can't look at that and root for it. But but no, I'm going to go with the the headquarters.
00:26:59
Speaker
going going with the boys from Argentina. Okay.
00:27:04
Speaker
Um, despite the fact that I also dislike, um, I do like me some, uh, some Malcolm marks. And, uh, he, uh, he, if there's a, if there's a guy that I would want on my team for hookers, he'd make my, he certainly would make my 35 man roster for a woke up. Um, so I'll, uh, I'm going to go with Malcolm marks and crew and get with the lions. I don't think that I, I think this is actually year. They take a step back.
00:27:33
Speaker
They've lost a few things lost. They lost a few guys have lost The guy playing for Gloucester now Why am I having a hard time thinking of his name Heinz? Nope most are
00:27:47
Speaker
Oh, monster. Yeah. Yeah, they lost him. So that's a big loss. That's a unit right there. Yes, it is. So I'm going to go. Yeah, I just I think they'll win this game. I don't I think they will stick a step back this year. I think they'll find I just don't think they'll have enough in the tank. I feel like having.
00:28:04
Speaker
Seen enough of the at least in the in the playoffs the past couple years I feel like the Lions have been taking steps back, but nobody's been taking a step up to Certainly not replace them against their certainly not in the South Africa conference, but that might happen I think there's enough from one of these three other three South African teams that you might you'll probably see them dethroned from the South Africa conference this year and
00:28:28
Speaker
All right, damn we covered a lot. We did.
England's Rugby Dominance: France and Ireland
00:28:31
Speaker
Okay. Um, so we didn't cover the women's world or women's six nations Did you get did how was like crunch female? It was about the same as the men. Oh, really? Oh, yeah France France i've got fucking rolled. They barely showed up
00:28:43
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Oh, man, what the heck? Yeah, I know. France. This was like crunch. This is supposed to be your match. 4126 was the final. Oh, and it really that that's that seems a lot closer than it actually was. Oh, my God. There were England had a couple yellow cards that really
00:29:03
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slowed them down, let's say. Yeah. So this could have been worse. It's going to be a lot worse. Oh my God. That's not good. Yeah. So we talked about Jess breach last week with two tries. She got another two tries this week, but this, this week though, the play of the match was Kelly Smith, the other wing.
00:29:23
Speaker
Where again just a little bit of movement through hands including through a prop once again Shouldn't be on the way once again Hannah Botterman acting as they go between okay between the ten and and she goes in the sky again
00:29:38
Speaker
She you know what not really that was bad. Um, well, she didn't start so she got to come on a little bit of fresh legs Okay, that helps that helped a lot But yeah, she was the kind of the go-between I think between Katie Daly McLean the 10 and Emily scared at 13
00:29:53
Speaker
Garrett gets the ball just chips it through and Kelly Smith just turns on the Jets takes on everybody else and just the Miracle pop not even the miracle the glory pop where it's kind of grubbing on the ground and then oh It's a lucky one right to chest level. So she's at full sprint pops right up to her boom and oh
00:30:13
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Thank the gods when that one happened then Yeah, you definitely drop shoes and thank the gods when that one happens because it doesn't always happen. That's how you want it to happen, but it doesn't always occur When you have talented players like smith and scarrett, you know connecting like that that usually good things happen They understand how to wait the kick how to how to put it right where it is and and really how to get that that bounce Yeah, it's like, uh, please
00:30:37
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But every time you're running at a kick like that, you're just hoping, hoping, please lift. That's perfect bounce right up into my chest. And it was. It was just soft. It bounced. So she was able to catch it not on the way up, but on the way down. So it popped up, and then just floated, and then she just ran into hands. Oh, hard what I got. Yeah, exactly. Perfect wing try there. Yeah, you got a lot of those.
00:30:57
Speaker
And I also want to just highlight the Ireland. Ireland do what Ireland does. Ireland do what Ireland does. They want 22 to 5 against Scotland. Choked them out. Choked them out. But also, again, they showed that they did show more creativity. Oh, really? Just like I said last week. They have. Just a really talented side that they won against last week. They still have an issue with running directly into contact. Do it a lot. Do it a lot. Yeah. That's just part of their DNA.
00:31:27
Speaker
Part of what having coached women's rugby for a few years before I moved back to men. I can't be the only one laughing at this, please.
00:31:45
Speaker
There's a lot of, it's really easy to get sucked into, oh, I want physicality. And then when you have women's athletes, they tend to come to rugby from another sport, but usually a less physical sport, like soccer. A lot of men come to rugby through football from the US or lacrosse, something where they're, right. So there's a little bit of physicality. Right.
00:32:11
Speaker
We grow up beating the shit out of each other as kids. Yes, we do. And girls don't, well, at least they haven't. Not a lot of them do. So when, you know, a lot of, I've seen a lot of women's rugby coaches who just stress the physicality aspect of it, because if we're more physical than the other side, they'll back down and that's how we're going to win.
00:32:31
Speaker
And now they're moving in towards tactics, which is good. That's good. But you can still see how they've been coaching those women, especially in Ireland, to take contact constantly. And just the way you coach them, given that, especially the physicality aspect of it,
00:32:53
Speaker
You have to they have to be comfortable around contact So you choose them to take contact which ultimately unfortunately trains them to run into contact You know, that's that's that that's the one aspect that we miss it You know, we want to make them physical we want to make every all our players physical But the problem is when we do that, we're training them to run right at somebody Um, and and ireland had that problem Um, they still ran a lot of good lines, but they ran their lines right into contact. Yeah, so
00:33:20
Speaker
Find space find space so they're they're they're still developing that And that was evident which is going to have them struggle against the top tier competition, but against Scotland That's not too much of an issue. All right, so they were still able able to overpower them and put points up That they weren't able to do last week against England So good on Ireland.
Ireland's Women's Rugby: Tactical Improvements
00:33:41
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They did a they did really well I you know if France keeps doing what they're doing
00:33:47
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Uh, Ireland could maybe pull one off and beat them and come in second in the competition. So that's, that's definitely an option for them. Um, we'll see how it goes. And I didn't even bother with Italy whales because it was a three, three match. And those are not, you know, those aren't any of the, they're not going to be top teams. So it's kind of an irrelevant, unfortunately match. Oops.
00:34:10
Speaker
But well done England well done Ireland. Yeah, I really want to see continued improvement out of Ireland and as far as attacking spaces You would see what happens when France Ireland rolls out around which will be around four I think
00:34:22
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uh i'm not certain yeah well it's around four around five it's not next round i know that um so we'll see what we'll see what happens yes it's ireland france is around four oh hey look at that in ireland i was ooh that's an advantage to them then possibly so yeah maybe we get a little up still in the cards there yeah i'll see what happens in a few weeks here you will okay
00:34:42
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