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Season 4- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Premiership Week 5 Preview)
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On the fantasy corner this week, we discuss a couple topics that seem to be on everyone's mind. There's going to be a situation at Hooker with Dolly possibly taking a back seat, the likes of Thacker becoming healthy and some usual names faltering. We talk the forever question (certainly since their emergence), Dom or Sam? Unfortunately, someone else might have control of this answer, but we discuss anyway. Of course, we recap CYL and have Start or Sit for the coming Premiership week in TRM. Kick back and enjoy!
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Show Introduction
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody, welcome back. It is the fancy word Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glavin. Let's get it going. It's the fancy time. Let's do the fancy things. I don't know. I want more beer. I heard you open my beer because I was. You were just waiting. You couldn't wait. That's OK. I couldn't. No, I really I realized like even before we kind of popped back on, I was like, and I'm like, fuck, that's the sound I'm supposed to hear on the whatever.
Announcements and Support
00:00:33
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Fuck it. All right. That guy is covered. Yeah. Good. Yes.
00:00:39
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Download rate review, all that good stuff. Grab yourself. Yeah, absolutely. Get George a fancy coffee and or a beer, however you want to see it. Grab your TRM upgrades. What's that? Give us both money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. TRM upgrades. Make sure you grab those. And then obviously, if you haven't heard, Patreon has dropped or is going to at least it'll be publicly dropped on Twitter tomorrow. So if you haven't seen it,
00:01:08
Speaker
head over to our Twitter feed. It's probably there right now, if you're listening to this. And again, please be patient with it. It's obviously very new. Please be gentle. But we're trying to give you, you know, we're going to start this out as something we got to get into the practice of doing and make sure we do it each week anyway, to update with the latest and greatest information on
00:01:28
Speaker
on scores and whatnot, and all the bells and whistles. Again, there will be, no, there already is, a sample spreadsheet of the type of data you'll get on the paid version, but the sample with last year's stats, so you can kind of see what you're getting into and what we're doing.
Team Mechanics and Analytics Discussion
00:01:47
Speaker
We'll have more in the Patreon, in the paid section, obviously, including some other features, and we'll develop those as we go.
00:01:56
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. We definitely are also, you know, some, some, um, you know, reaction, you know, we need, we need, uh, like if we want to do, you know, help, help your team, a little bit of, uh, um, team mechanics, one-on-one kind of thing, um, you know, it helped to get out of a bad situation. Yeah. Yeah. We can definitely start looking at, looking at being able to offer that type of stuff at some point. Oh, that that's all depending on, on the kind of demand that we're getting. So yeah, that's definitely true. This, this first bit, yeah. We'll give you, we'll give you some, um, additional analytics that you won't get anywhere else.
00:02:26
Speaker
Yeah, totally. Hopefully you all find it valuable.
Player Comparisons and Investment Options
00:02:30
Speaker
All right, so now comes the fun part. Let's talk about a couple of things.
00:02:36
Speaker
Talk about hookers. Yeah. Talk about them hookers. The fantasy variation. Not the ones that proposition you on the street. Well, I mean, or in your car. Smells on the rugby clubs you hang out with, I guess. That's also true. I get proposition by hookers. None of them look that good. Trust me. Most of them are pretty hairy.
00:03:00
Speaker
But there's a lot to consider in the Hookerverse. Here's the thing, and we've not seen anything good from him so far. We hope he's healthy.
00:03:13
Speaker
Harry Sacker used to be like a no-brainer, had to be on your roster, you know, even as early as- A potential captain. Right. As late as last year and, you know, in the semi-final, but like right now, kind of like, huh? Is that the choice now? Like, I don't know. It's not good right now. I'm very unsure of him now. I am too. I mean, I know he's obviously he's counting an injury,
00:03:41
Speaker
Um, yeah, that's not news. And then there's, here's the problem with, with the Bristol players right now is that I feel like it's going to take, thank you. It's going to take like.
00:03:53
Speaker
one match and suddenly they're back on and everybody's like why the fuck were we so upset you know what were we why were we asking so many stupid questions about Bristol like it will be like that um or it won't and it'll just keep going like this and like that's the gamble each week you know I finally got rid of Vui last week uh I'm probably gonna get her at peers this week um but man they're just like
00:04:17
Speaker
I mean, we saw this week, they scored tries at least, but like Purdy might be a decent option because he seems to be doing stuff anyway, but he's going forward at least, you know, down to Thacker. I don't know. It's also hard because the hooker is actually a down position this year. It seems like there's a couple of really good ones. And then there's like no second tier, like the second tiers.
00:04:40
Speaker
Yeah. Oh yeah. There there's tier one and then tier none. Right. That's pretty much it right now. Like factor isn't even in the second tier right now. Um, but he could become first tier in the job. So who the fuck knows? Right. And it's really, but he's also now an investment to like two to 28. He used to be like in the, um, low twos to start a year and now he's in the two and a quarter to start the year. And that's, that's a bigger investment. There's, there's other hookers that you can get a little bit better value from right now.
00:05:11
Speaker
Right. And it's, it's, yeah, it's like, you know, I have, I have Sam out of AC and he's, he's at this point, he's my ride or die until I see something else happen. Right. You know, and he's going to be on my team. Like, you know, he'll, he'll have the bye week to sort this out. Um, he'll be on my team to start the, uh, uh, yeah, the next cycle. Right. And it's.
00:05:36
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I don't see myself getting word of them just because of a bi-week. Personally, you know, I have, I have enough cover. Yeah. I just don't, I have, I have, um, Dolly and McGuigan. So I'm not going to add Medivacy for this week. No, you don't mind. You don't use it for that week anyway. So yeah, not with those two at least. Yeah. I mean, in that guy you mentioned there, McGuigan like might be the other, really the other most more consistent option, although the Saracen's ate him alive this week. Um,
00:06:03
Speaker
They they know, but that's what they do. That's that is what they do. That's the one thing I expected to happen to Dolly that didn't. But exactly. But yeah, they bottled McGuigan and then made him, you know, force the yellow. Oh, he put him in the position to have to eat a yellow to have the yellow. And that was no good for him. So, you know, that's where we're at now. Tom Cruise is another option, too. So actually, that's the question. That's OK. If his head's OK. So here's here's a question for you then. If we're in the the hooker area still.
00:06:31
Speaker
Dan Frost at 129. All gray is out. Tom Cruise may be injured.
00:06:41
Speaker
Is, is frosty a guy that you would, uh, you would bring onto the squad if, um, if you really wanted to short term, like, yeah, that's a cheap rental. So that's okay. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not into the, like the really long, the really expensive rentals that are going to be for like two weeks. Like now, right? Like one week. All right. He's in, he's out. Like you toss them away and you can pick somebody up for probably a similar price, you
Fantasy Rugby Strategy
00:07:05
Speaker
know? So.
00:07:06
Speaker
especially if it's a good matchup. Yeah. And at this point, the other thing is you have to also figure out how many you have on your team. So like, I can, um, I can drop like, you know, depending on now, again, with Nick Dolly, with, uh, um,
00:07:23
Speaker
Montoya being back, Dolly is probably going to get less time. He may not even start matches here or there. So I might just drop him for Dan Frost, eat that extra money. And then at some point I have 30 players right now. I can do a two for one. I can use that 129 from, from Frost. I combined with someone else, like, uh, you know, obviously, you know, a more expensive player to get like a next level type player, like a, you know, in the mid to high threes, um, easily doable with, you know, that two for one. So, um,
00:07:52
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. No, especially if you're looking for to recruit your team in certain positions. Right. Who the wasps playing? Oh, OK. Hmm. See wasps have a tasty lineup coming up. And they should be. Yeah, they're playing. They're playing that team from Devon. And they're not they're not particularly tough against hookers as of yet.
00:08:17
Speaker
Right. But other than that, like you look at their next couple of fixtures, if I remember correctly, so let's see what we got. Exeter, Saracens, yeah, not good. Not great. Bath, Quins, Gloucester, Worcester. Well, yeah. Actually, then maybe it's bad, actually, because he'd be gone by that point. He'd be off to cruise. Right. Yeah, you definitely have young crews at that point. Yeah.
00:08:41
Speaker
It's an interesting problem. If you're riding the dollar train, this could be your answer for one week. If you're looking for something long-term, then yeah, you got to go for one of the more consistent guys like McGuigan. And then even I have Walker and he's not been bad.
00:09:00
Speaker
He's not been bad, but he's not been. Well, listen for the price you pay for him. I'm not, I'm not sad about it. So yeah. Yeah. He gets 20 plus each week so far. So I'm in a good attacking team on top of that. So just remember it's always better to drop a guy a week too early and then a week too late. So yes, with someone like Dolly, this might not be the week to pull the trigger, but if it's not this week, it's.
00:09:24
Speaker
soon after probably next week. Yeah. Although we'll see if Montoya plays for cause Argentina do have some of the fall internationals fair. So they, he could be, so he could be just riding the pine maybe one start and then, and then it's Dolly time still. So, so maybe yeah. And Dolly is still only one 60. So right. It's all like he's super expensive either. Yeah. Um, let's go to the other
00:09:46
Speaker
age-long debate here at this point. And there's so much involved with this that rides on, it depends. Sam or Dom. And it's all dependent on a guy that has driven us all nuts for the last like three years. And that's Eddie Jones. And whether or not he picks either or both, you know? Well, to me, there's another factor to it.
00:10:17
Speaker
And that is because I think they're both going to get picked. So I think that I think I think Eddie's going to if he I mean, fuck Eddie was there as much as what we saw, you know, on our screens, Eddie was was there live watching it. And you can't there's no excuse now. So I think he'll pick both Eddie. I feel of Dom and Sam, but I'm going to go with Dom because he's cheaper.
00:10:41
Speaker
And I think it's one of those, the return on investment, you'll get points with Sam, but I think Dom will get you a lot more for the money. I mean, all things equal, price is kind of the thing. And there's one, I mentioned it in our group chat, there's an elephant in the room here. Well, it's more of like a giraffe.
00:11:07
Speaker
because we've mentioned a couple of these people that were like, these are people you can just plug and play in captain. Thacker was one of those people you had to be on your team. In the past, Dom and Sam, yes, kind of had to be on your team. Dom could be a lock, but now it's hard because they're both eights and nothing else. Maru Itoji is still out there.
00:11:29
Speaker
You still need to, like, he's one of those guys who almost has to be on your team. I don't know that you can have a team with Sam Simmons and Maro Itoge. Yeah. That is tough. Especially with their prices. Yeah. The two of them are a 10th of your, your budget more than- 356 and 405 right now. Right. It's a lot. It's what, six and a half mil or something. So yeah, it's like- That'll be seven. That'll be seven and a half. Seven and a half plus. Right.
00:12:00
Speaker
That's too much of an investment for two players, but you look at a, a, a Notoji and a Dombrandt.
00:12:08
Speaker
And, um, Don Brett being only at least two 94, but that's still 500, that's, you know, 50,000 less. That's, it's such a huge gap to be under three. And then it makes you just a little bit less. Right. Cause like, I mean, I literally have some guys like, like Charles Pietal, um, or, uh, actually, no, not so much him cause he met sick around George Ford. I have as my, uh, as my fly half. Yeah. And we'll see what it does with that too.
00:12:33
Speaker
Yeah, but at the same time, I don't want to I have him because he's I have him because he'll score points and he's 305. And then I can get rid of him. And like, that's what I can do with the, you know, the maybe an Andrew Davidson, who's 99. I can cut Andrew Davidson and George Ford and get Amaro Itoji. There's your two for one. There you go. And that will be worth it. I'll just need to pick up another, you know, 10 beforehand.
00:12:58
Speaker
Yeah, make sure somebody that's got a kicker and 10 roll there, right? But that's easy to do. That's I'm honestly considering Brett Connan. I have common and honestly, I wish I played him last week.
00:13:09
Speaker
I don't see the tens. You know, I don't know how many good tens there are. There aren't many right now. There really aren't guys that are playing fly half and kicking. It's a it's very few. And some of them are not
TRM Points System and Analytics
00:13:23
Speaker
good prices. So and some of them are people. So like, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm picking them. So right. I'm not picking Voldemort. I don't care how many points you get. He's not going to my team. Nope. She's been shitty. Yeah. Hastings.
00:13:39
Speaker
is a possibility apart from the Scotland pick, which is probably going to happen. And I'm waiting, you know, me personally, I'm waiting for fucking AJ to come back. Cause I know he's going to be great. I know he's going to be great. And he's decent. He's not a super expensive value and he'll get, he'll get the job done nine weeks out of 10. So it's like, but that's also why I'm considering Brett Connan for now. Cause it's like, he's one 73 he'll grow, he'll grow. And then, uh,
00:14:05
Speaker
A.J. won't. He'll stay around. He's at 226. So then by the time, you know, I'm ready, you know, we're ready to make the switch. It'll be less of a disparity there. It'll be easier to make that changeover. Right, right. Yeah. No argument on me. Yeah, like, I mean, man, you look at these...
00:14:24
Speaker
So let's look at assuming my, my last time I tried this, my thing fucked up. So looking at like just the TRM points, right? Because we're still waiting on our thing to kind of unfuck itself a little bit. Um,
00:14:40
Speaker
you know, AJ was with 39 minutes played really well. So his numbers up there, Marcus Smith right now really up there, but we expect him to be picked by England. So that's a problem. Grayson's not playing right now because he's in because he's got Dan bigger in front of him. So you have to wait till the international break for him.
00:14:55
Speaker
Tomasso Allen again. He currently has Marcus Smith in front of him. You'll have to wait for the national break for that. Conin, nothing in front of him. He's got, and he's up there. He's, you know, scoring fairly consistently. He put 34 on Saris. Yes, he did. So, and that's not, that's nothing to sneeze at, so. Right. He also put zero on Bath. Oh no, that was on as a,
00:15:13
Speaker
As a sub, as a sub. Yeah. Yeah. So as long as he's, if he's playing, then that's your answer. Yeah. He struggled against Quinn's, which duh. Yeah. That happens from a 10. That happens a lot of times. Like this is, yeah. Yeah. Look at their lineup coming up.
00:15:30
Speaker
I mean, it's Bristol who they could score well against Gloucester who they could score well against a little bit of a week seven by Exeter. Yeah, that could be a bit of an issue, but then, you know, Worcester, Irish, then sale, depending on AJ's back. So there's, there's, there's a lot of opportunities for points coming up from, yes, there is, from Conant and he's looked good. He's looked fine. I like, yeah, at first. So for the, again, that, you know, everything else coming down to price, um,
00:16:00
Speaker
Yeah, pretty, pretty good price there. And but that also kind of brings up a good point about the, the patreon and the numbers that will be showing. So like, if I go, I'm just doing this on the, the TRM website. So I'm looking at, Oh, yeah, he scored 34, but then 17 and zero. And then 16. Well, the 16 starter, the 17 to zero where he was on the bench, you're not going to have Brett Connan in your lineup if he's on the bench. So that doesn't tell you
00:16:27
Speaker
You want to know how he averages as a starter. Yeah, you're way more interested in that. Right. How well he does against teams versus what they normally give up to 10s. All the calculations I was doing as a nerd on my own that weren't so easy to do kind of made the sheet to do it. This is the kind of shit that you'll have on the website. That's why we're there. That's why we have that there.
00:16:55
Speaker
Oh, okay. Um, let's do a quick rewind here.
Fantasy League Standings Update
00:17:00
Speaker
Um, we have our championks league and, uh, division one in TRM and
00:17:10
Speaker
I am, I'm not having a good fantasy rugby year at all right now. I'm at the bottom right now of that. Um, thankfully you're holding it up for the, for the two of us at least. I'm not that I'm not far. I'm, I could jump to, I could jump three places very quickly between myself and George, like eight to five is 30 points, like 31 points. Like that's not a right. That's not, that's not like easy or anything like that. And you are still only 300 points behind me, which,
00:17:40
Speaker
is extremely doable. It's not like, you know, we're not, you know, 15 weeks into the season here and it's, it's going to be hard. This is, yeah, it's just turning around a little bit.
00:17:53
Speaker
Yeah, so we'll see. So yeah, Ben's currently leading Justin's right behind him. No movement there. Duncan again, Carrick, George, and then Mark made a little bit of movement off of going from the basement to six. Anton and I both dropped a place each. So we went from seven to seven and eight in D2 for TRM. I have to reach out to those boys and see what they got for the FRW. But for the TRM,
00:18:23
Speaker
Not a lot of movement at the top. It's John and Franco just running away with it. They both were about the same score point scoring with each other. So nothing there. Cobus has jumped a spot. Leano fell. Terry. Hey, there's Terry. He jumped two spots. That a boy.
00:18:39
Speaker
or not one spot excuse me cuz never mind yet not worth it bob is jump to spot as well and yuri fell a little bit and larry still hold up the bottom larry you're disappointing us all just so this is terry have a good fantasy we yeah no he didn't either
00:18:56
Speaker
Yeah, he was having a rough one. I put it this way. He ate 20 points and he still had 489. That was a great score. Yeah. I had to eat 20 last week. So if I hadn't done that, I might have been okay.
00:19:10
Speaker
And he jumped 500 places in the overalls. So, whoo, great job, Terry, Terry. But that's because, yeah, the 20 points, especially this early in the season, it's an investment, you know, you eat 20 now. Yeah. But if you make, you know, 200 off of it in the long run, it's not the end of the world. You don't don't worry about eating 20 points this early in the season. Yeah. And then.
Scoring System Critique and Format Comparison
00:19:36
Speaker
to FRW, I am, this is not my format. I can play that much right now. I've gotten talked to at least a few weeks in a row here. It's, it's, it's a little blind luck to be honest. Yeah. At this point. Yeah. The, the, I can't say I'm in love with the scoring system so far. Yeah. It's all, it's all tries and, and things like that. So not, you know, it's basically who has what team has the more tries scored and, and, and whose kicker has the better day.
00:20:02
Speaker
Yeah, so I did find out the if you kick if you do the captain and the kicker the captain's he does not apply to the kicking points so. No. Yeah, I.
00:20:13
Speaker
Who knew? I'm glad I won because I wouldn't have Captain Farrell if I knew that little nugget. So, Anton, Mark B. Anton, that's the one. Yeah, I lost in a pillow fight to Justin and Ben was able to win against Carrick and then in the match of the week, it was Duncan and George and George came out on top.
00:20:38
Speaker
Yeah, right. Like, you know, Duncan would have beat everybody else. Bar Mark. Right. So sorry about that, Duncan. I wish I had a better news story on that one. This week's match-ups, it is Anton and Justin, Mark and Carrick, myself and Duncan, and you, our old friend, George. What's up, George? We'll have to put
00:21:06
Speaker
We'll have to put, well, number one, we're going to have to get him on here before the, uh, Quinn's and, and, and, uh, Sarri's match. And two, we're going to have to put some sort of wager on the line, I think. Cause yeah, that, that, that's what, that's what friends do, right? Right. Bet on each other's team, bet against each other's teams and see who comes out to embarrass the other. That's generally how it goes, right?
00:21:29
Speaker
Yeah. I will get an update next week for the division two on FRW as well. Yeah. Fingers crossed. We eventually get, you know, as annoying as we might've been. It makes me appreciate FRD just a little bit. Just a little bit. This format. I miss them. I do miss them. Yeah. Yeah. So FRD. Bruce, if you're listening, we miss you. All right. Let's do that silly thing that we like to call start sit.
Rugby Match Start-Sit Recommendations
00:21:55
Speaker
I think I'm on the bet on the batter's box here. Yes, you are. Yep.
00:22:00
Speaker
Sale and Quins. Okay, for sale, JLDP, JB, DPDDP, all those initials. Yeah, they're all good. Jean-Pierre, Jean-Luc and Dan, they should all be good, especially JL and Dan there. Those are probably the two most match-up proof of those guys. So, you guys are definitely thumbs up.
00:22:25
Speaker
Uh, maybe neither Luke James nor his brother are my favorite player on sale from a fancy perspective. I do like Luke a little bit better than Sam. If he's in that 13 shirt, you play pretty well last week against Foster. Um, Quinn's are middling against center. So if that's like your guy, then you might actually have centers are good centers though. These are not, these are not them. No. And you know, to be fair, um,
00:22:50
Speaker
centers are a bitch right now in terms of picking out some good ones. So yeah, if you have, if you like him, I'm not going to tell you now. So there's that on the other side of it, the other Dapria, Rob, if he is back in healthy at 10, he is not the 10 you want this week. As much as we are talking about tens that you need to find, he's not the answer. Quinn's aren't especially generous to tens either. So just FYI.
00:23:14
Speaker
uh for the quins um sale or not the defensive dynamo they once were they are pretty generous so far this year and obviously that can probably be credited to some of their guys being away but still have a um dino lamb has done a good job of filling in for levise while he's been away so if
00:23:30
Speaker
including scoring a try. If you need to fill in that Levis-shaped void, he's not a bad option. And he's a slightly cheaper version of that. So, you can go with that, I suppose. Luke Northmore, if it's rotation time in the centers, he's still a good option, especially in that 13-shirt. He usually does really well in that 13-shirt, no matter who he's playing against. So, he does have to start. Is there any Quinn's back that they could put in that you would be like, I don't know if I'd start him.
00:24:01
Speaker
I. That's on the that's on the roster right now. I don't know. Yeah, like. Merley's been kind of mad for me, actually. That's it. That's that merley to me is the guy who I had most be like, I don't really want to play him, but he's been fucking lighting it up. So, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know the answer on the other side. The answer is just start Quinn's back. Yeah, right. Well, so we say that on the other side of the coin. Danny Care has has unfortunately
00:24:29
Speaker
reached, I need to see a territory. Two stinkers in a row against softer opponents has got me going, I need to find a better nine, which is really disappointing. He would not have been on my team this week if Ben White had been playing. Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, so yeah. So that's it. That's on the agenda for this week, possibly, too. Yeah, keep the fingers crossed, man. On to Newcastle versus Bristol.
00:24:56
Speaker
So Bristol are weak against basically fly half to fullback. The whole back line, which is crazy again for this Bristol because they were incredibly strong defensively last year. And they also give up points to eights and props. They're strong against hookers, locks, and nines, and middle of the road against flankers.
00:25:16
Speaker
So, um, McGuigan is probably good for a bench spot. If he's still on your team, um, you know, I'm probably going to go Dolly and McGuigan still. Um, unless they make some changes, um, start Robinson, um, count and, and basically that back line that, you know, chick, uh, uh, Vanderwalt ferns, Graham, like those guys, I would actually go ahead with that. Um, yeah, I think they're going to get some tackles and whatnot and get some space. Um,
00:25:42
Speaker
Brett Conin, again, I go, uh, Stevenson or Wacocki, Koki, whoever's at, at, at, you know, at 13. That really impressed me the way they, they, they ran, tried to run around Saris. Not many teams actually try to, to, um, do that and they did it to some success. So I feel like if I'm Newcastle, I'm walking away from that Saris match thinking, thinking pretty highly of myself.
00:26:05
Speaker
I mean, they should have got something out of that match, honestly. And it was really disappointing they didn't for them. Yeah. And then the back three, unless it's Penny at full back. Well, he should be still suspended, I think. You've got one more match. OK. All right. There we go.
00:26:18
Speaker
for Bristol. So Newcastle are weak against hookers, flankers, 8, 9, 10, centers. But they're really strong against wings, locks, and they're kind of middle of the road against fullbacks and props. So Sinclair, AFOa, whoever's at three should still score well. Any of the Bristol hookers should score well. Probably smart to sit the Bristol locks because they've been good. But in this week, again, Newcastle are number one against locks.
00:26:48
Speaker
So, yeah, at this point we got dated to back it up it's not like we're just right off two weeks. Right, this is four weeks now in, and and sorry and Newcastle number one against locks and they played against saris that's then shut them down.
00:27:04
Speaker
really hard to do. Not impressed really by the Bristol back row or the nines in sheetie, so I can't really suggest starting them. Bedlow and Purdy are really the only ones who are looking good with any sample size, but they have still a small sample size. And then Chuck could always get loose, always. And he's still a very high scoring fullback. He did all right last week, yeah. Yeah, he's still scoring all right because he's actually leading the league and defender's beaten. I believe so, yes.
00:27:33
Speaker
There you go. Yeah. Okay. Woss and some club from Devin. For the Woss. Fafita and suit. Both are good options this week. About 30 pounds in price difference with Fafita thus far being the slightly more productive option. I think he's also, he might be the more expensive option, but, you know, with that,
00:27:58
Speaker
semi-minor difference in price. You go with a more productive die, but if you go on either one, it's fine.
00:28:07
Speaker
We didn't talk about this earlier with the Gaskell injury. That's horrible. Oh, I know. That was not good. And I'm so glad we weren't looking. Oh, my God. I heard it was like, oh, we're not showing that replay again. Yeah. And I'm so glad I wasn't looking. I'm not going back to look at it again. Yeah. Thanks for telling us. Right. But Athena and Stuke now are the rise. You ride them because they're going to play like if they're not starting, they're probably going to be on the bench. They don't think wasps have much in the way of options right now. Correct. Correct.
00:28:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'm gonna do one more segment before we do pick on that. And I'll, for your opinion, I'll let you know. We'll get there. Anyway, yeah, Fafita and Stuke, both good options, about 30 pounds in price difference. Fafita is the more productive, but either one's fine. Thomas Young, if he keeps doing what he did last week, the points will come. I know they didn't come last week, but if he keeps doing that, also...
00:28:58
Speaker
Yeah, oppositions are not exactly, you know, hard against that position at the moment. So go ahead. Josh Bassett hasn't quite got it going this season, which is really I like the guy, but he's he's a, you know.
00:29:11
Speaker
a stone's throw away. He's he'll get it eventually. Yeah. I just, I don't think this is it this week. Unfortunately, obviously does a pretty good job against outside backs, including wings. So sad, sad to say about that. That's where it's at. It's not, not this week. Yeah. Nope. Um, as for the rugby club from Devin, um,
00:29:29
Speaker
Richard Capstik, assuming Baxter isn't a complete fucking moron, although argument can be made for that. He should play and Washington defend the back row well at all. So give that a thumbs up. I can't believe I'm about to say this. Jack Monder, he's been serviceable. Playing him this week is fine as well. I disagree.
00:29:50
Speaker
He hasn't scored below 20 yet, so. I know. I just disagree with that. You're hard to find. I know. I find out. Like I said, I find it hard to believe, but like he's been scored more than 20. Bullshit. Shut the fuck up. I wouldn't have thought it either until I checked it.
00:30:05
Speaker
I was like, no, that's not accurate. Oh, shit. On the side of the coin for them, Ali Devoto, highly owned, not highly productive. He's been suspended, right? Yes, I believe so as well. So that's also not helpful. Yes, don't play him. Yeah, but even when he comes back, don't play him. But yeah, he's very high. He actually, yeah, he's very highly owned for a guy that hasn't been productive and is suspended. So I'm a little concerned for everybody that's got that out there. So maybe that's why I highlighted that. There you go.
00:30:36
Speaker
Um, onto the, the STRS battle this week, uh, Worcester versus Lester. Um, Lester are kind of mid range everywhere. Uh, they're, they're pretty weak against nines. Um, not that Worcester has a scoring nine at all. Um, so for Worcester, yeah, start Lewis and Kavecic. Um, maybe they Kavecic, but he's not worth the cost. I love the guy he scores well, but if he was like in the one fifties.
00:31:00
Speaker
Yes, but he's in like the 200s and he shouldn't be. Heinz is very much a go, as I said. Lawrence, Inventor and Nanaya are okay to go and maybe Duhan, but I'm not ready to make that investment until we see that Worcester are not Worcester or anything other than what the Worcester were used to seeing. Yeah, right. And speaking of Worcester being the same we're used to seeing, they're bleeding points everywhere. So there's really no
00:31:29
Speaker
strong point to their fantasy defense. So for Lester Genge, yes. I'm going to say this is interesting. If you've paid attention to the pod, this will mean a lot to hear this from me. Dan Cole is attractive at his price at 219. He's been scoring well. First time he's been decently priced. That's a problem.
00:31:51
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. That's true. He used to be in like 300s. Oh, he used to be well in the 300s. So yeah, he's actually attractive at the price now. Consider him. Plus, he plays minutes. He'll get 60. He'll get that 60-point bonus. Not every prop will do that. Dali in Montoya is officially a problem now. I don't know how long it'll last, but it's a problem. Harry Wells.
00:32:16
Speaker
Harry Wells needs to be on your radar and potentially in your lineup. And if you've got him, he should be in your lineup. I'm going to use him to clear up some space. But if you could do Harry Wells in one of those WASPs locks, you're doing fucking fine. Yeah, totally. And Eli Snaiman should be on your radar because he's only 100 quid.
00:32:40
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, Marco van Staden is at 154 should, as you saw this past weekend, he, he will get you to defenders beaten. Um, he breaks tackles. He's just, uh, mean and loose. Uh, Leibenberg, obviously. Yes. Um, give the scrum heads a miss. They're not, they're not really scoring. Well, I think if Ford, if you've got him, should be in your lineup. Cause he has to be too expensive to have in your bench. Um, and for the rest of the backs, really only Matt Scott and Harry Potter, uh, and Freddie Stewart on that. No.
00:33:09
Speaker
Yeah, hold on now on that one. All right. Exiles and Gloucester.
Specific Player Advice
00:33:15
Speaker
We've been hammering the drum for this guy, and we've already mentioned him today. Ben White, if he's in this week, if it sucks anyway, play him, please. And he's got to be, right? The fits has to be the rest, the rotation. I hope that's all it was. I really hope that's all it was. Did I even make the bench? Like, what the fuck? Right. Creepy or Cornish are both fine plays at hook, Cornish being the bargain option, but
00:33:37
Speaker
We'll see if they rotate or not yet. But yeah, if it's Gus, if he's on your team, you're playing him. Playing him. You know, he's fairly expensive, so there you go. Pains me to say, this Curtis Rona, he's being relegated to the bench for the time being, even against a middling Gloucester, one game with 20 plus points so far, and that was boosted by a try, which means I probably need to find two centers this week. But, you know, that's my problem. Yeah. So, yeah, he's on the bench and, you know, probably starting to be considered to be shunted.
00:34:06
Speaker
So the thing about centers though, you have to bear my, there aren't many high, like centers are not really high score in this year. I don't know. They haven't been so far. It's not really killing you. If you have a center, that's, that's fucking you. Like I had, I have Rona and peers and they're both. I mean, peers, especially bad right now though. Right? Like, yeah, you better have a Joe marching on your team. And so, you know, and, and I have a max of Joe Mo. So I'm like, Hey, for your centers right now, I'd say, but yeah, the high school, the centers are really hard to find points there. Yep. I'm not arguing with that one.
00:34:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's all right, even if you have shitty centers for now. Find better ones. You'll get there. Yeah, you'll get there. For Gloucester, Ben Morgan, a guy whose name we haven't paraded around in a while. But he's back in a valuable fancy asset if you have him play him for sure. He's looking great. Frederick Clark, a favorite of Ben's. Freddie's been good every time he started. He's versatile as well. Lock flanker number eight eligible.
00:35:05
Speaker
I have them and I'm not sad about it. When you can play locks at flank, that is so much better than the opposite now. Yeah, I did have to shove in the second row because of my back row. Right. Options. But that's it was still, again, not sad about it. Right.
00:35:23
Speaker
Um, a guy that I won't be a surprise and neither one of us necessarily love on this podcast. Johnny May, not the winger or outside back. You want from Gloucester right now. Exiles don't give up much on the outside either. So sit him or shunt him. One of those two. Right. Um, off to, um, Sandy perk, um, like exit or Worcester, uh, Sandy. Wait, hold on. Am I in the wrong thing?
00:35:52
Speaker
I am on the wrong thing. You're on the wrong page. I was on the wrong page. Off to Beth. That's where I'm going to versus Saris. I was like, no, I had a Saris and smash. I didn't have to say, I don't remember. I think I already covered that. I was very confused there for a second. Yeah, I had the wrong file open.
00:36:13
Speaker
So the rec, Sarri's again, one of the best fantasy defenses as expected. They're weak against lock, which is odd, fly half and fullback. Everywhere else, they're pretty damn strong.
00:36:27
Speaker
Um, so for bath, really make the alien mules, uh, are, are your, are your best options in the forwards, uh, cause they'll get line outs. Um, saris are not shy about kicking to touch and, um, letting the other team, you know, try to try to line out down there, see what we can do. Um, and the, the saris line up defense is not what it has been, although that could change. We'll get to that in a second. Um,
00:36:51
Speaker
Ojomo and Muir are worthy of bench spots or potentially starting spots if you're out of other options. If you have Ojomo, I'd play him over Rona right now. Because he's just making line breaks, beating defenders, and Muir could just go off. Yeah, he's a workhorse. It's him getting a little slippery and loose. Although, I'm guessing that Saris are going to
00:37:16
Speaker
do what they did to Radwin to him. Yeah, probably. Because Bath right now have no other options in the back three. It's not certain. Nobody's really getting loose.
00:37:28
Speaker
Um, on the other side, the bath are weak against hookers, locks and eights. They're strong against flankers, scrum, have centers and fullbacks kind of middle of the road everywhere else. So for the saris, uh, Mako and Jinx. Yes. Cause they get, well, Jinx, you know, always a threat to score a line out, uh, mall try, um, is equal. I think it's time to look out for Maro. I think it might bring him back this week. He's in this week. Yeah.
00:37:51
Speaker
enough lion lions coming back so this might be the week you know i might be making my move tomorrow more than anything else um and then uh none of the back rows right now though for saris i'm not general um he got 21 great but yeah but he's so maybe on the bench he's so much better than that he is um so so you know if you don't get rid of him at least still him on your bench if he gets you know that's another thing like the
00:38:20
Speaker
get rid of a guy a week early, you know, wait a week on the guy. Like if you have a guy who's, you know, in the gotta see it category and, and Earl's in the gotta see a category and then he'll get like 40 next week. And then it's like, okay, now we, now you play him. Cause he's going to get 30 regularly. Right. Um, Davies, Farrell, um, laws, good mail-ins. Yes. Everyone else. I pumped the brakes. Correct.
Weekly Player Matchups
00:38:45
Speaker
Onto the starts of the week. I think there's fucking no way we got the same one of either of these, but we may. I don't think so either. I think I've pulled a couple out of my bum. Okay. Okay. Start of the week. We love locks on here.
00:39:02
Speaker
if you haven't noticed, especially when they get their points. For Lineouts 1, TRM, hello, hello, Opta, hello. I can fix that shit. I was so mad about that this week. I am too. I am too. As a guy that owns a sequel, I was very pissed. Yeah, so if you haven't realized, Opta fucked up the Lineouts 1 stat. You're supposed to get a point for every Lineout 1 by the receiver.
00:39:30
Speaker
Um, and actually, and they, they fucked a Dom rat because he had a couple too, but, um,
00:39:37
Speaker
Yeah, as if we had like 10 line out wins and he got zero points for them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because they had 22 lines completed and he was at least half of those. Yeah. So it's like that. Yeah, that really that fucked us. They're there. The show. I meet you. Yeah. Anywho, last year, this would be unthinkable for me to name this guy in this in this spot. I think he did it. But his fortunes and his clubs being turned to sports is being turned around.
00:40:05
Speaker
Gives me all the conferences in the world to make this pick. He's the best pair of the good ones at Wilford road. And my start of the week for round five of the prime is less of tires ever reliable. Second row, Harry Wells. As is my son of the week. There's no fucking way that we've done this.
00:40:27
Speaker
But it's also like, there's not, there's not many. I was like, Oh, that's an interesting pick. I think I'm going to pick this one. I'm thinking no way that there's no way that we do this matchup. And, and Wells has just been ridiculous this year. Um, so yeah, he's got to be on. That's why I said, you know, get him on your team. If I can figure out a way to get him in and a Toji on my team, um,
00:40:51
Speaker
Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So like it's worth that one out. Yeah, definitely. I agree. So hey, look at that. Yeah. All right. Let's see if we match this up. Since you didn't do your spiel. This is just a really bad matchup. Um,
00:41:15
Speaker
This guy's opponent is just shutting his position down. And even though he's very good, it's kind of like that Adam Radwan situation. If a defense just shuts him down, there's not much threat on the other side. And he did have a big week this past week. And so I think it's going to be one of those come back down to earth for him, even though this guy never comes down to earth.
00:41:40
Speaker
I don't think they touch the ground except leave scorch marks. Um, and so my sit of the week this week is Louis resam it. Oh man. Yeah. That's sad, but not wrong in so many ways. All right. So we didn't do that. Very good. They're just shutting down wings. Right. Right. Right. No. Yeah. I'd stay away this week.
00:41:57
Speaker
Yeah. Um, so we didn't do it. So that's good. Uh, this guy's been working very hard for his club and has done everything he possibly can to help them get out, get them off their duck. They're still sitting on it. Unfortunately. Um, unfortunately again, this is the wrong week for him. I anticipate he'll be a popular pickup because of his price and his production. And I would avoid it if, how are you this week? Hold off. Um, cause myself a week for around five of the prime is best, very versatile back rower, Josh Bayless.
00:42:25
Speaker
Hmm. Oh, okay. Good call. Good call. He's very nice to him. No, they're not. That's of that. Yeah. Yeah. No, great call. Okay. Things that make him earn points. He's a very much attacking type. Okay. So before we get to pick them, we're going to do a quick segment segment. So these are the guys that are higher risk price that haven't played yet. And we know, we probably know your answer on some of them, but to be determined. Um,
00:42:54
Speaker
whether or not you would add them and, or, and hang on to them. Um, a Toge. Yes. I mean, I had him on my team for the first like two weeks before I realized. So that's a definitive. Yes. Oh yeah. Uh, no, no, not there yet.
00:43:11
Speaker
I do like the way he played, but not that I like the way he played. But I mean, again, we talked about Don Brandt versus Sam. It's going to be one of those two. Yeah. And he's number eight only as well. So that's right. So yeah, no. Right. I think we both know the answer to this fast. No. Yeah. Daily fantasy player. Oh yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Versatile, but expensive. Expensive to expensive. Tom Curry. No.
00:43:42
Speaker
Lude. Is that 308? No, I'd rather have JLDP. Mm hmm. Because they'll play it because because when they play it, JLDP is the one who's he's the guy who gets the line outs. You know, Lude is the guy who does the the the the Charlie work around the field. He's very good at what he does. But JLDP is their guy. So I would go with with him and said at Lude.
00:44:09
Speaker
Mm hmm. Launch to launch great. No, he doesn't need the fantasy paper or fancy. Yeah. Paperweight. Yeah. Heavy paper. Wait. Rad's semi-rad. Radra 279. Yes. Yeah. Oh yeah. Hoogie 278. No. No, I think he's priced out because he doesn't play. Yeah. Right. Uh, Johnny gray 268. No.
00:44:37
Speaker
I like Johnny Hill better. Yeah. He sees the better point score. Um, Joe Koka, 256. No. Yeah. Paperweight of paperweights. Yeah. Uh, Jack Willis at 250. What is he eligible at? Just Flanker.
00:44:59
Speaker
just flanker, maybe I'd have to score, you know, to have some shit, but yeah. Yes, I would have them on my team. Okay. Uh, Vincent cock to 49. No. Yeah. Doesn't do, didn't really get fantasy points. Right. Uh, Mark Wilson to 49 flanker number eight eligible. No, no. Uh, we'll go low to 45. Yes.
00:45:27
Speaker
Yeah. Cause he gets tackles and, um, he's a fucking BB eight. Yep. Definitely. Yeah. I've had him on my team last year. I, I, I, he was a guy who actually started the, the, the year on, on my team. Cause I was hopeful, but I didn't realize he was away. Yeah. Same. Pay attention to that part. Obviously. Um, somebody we're all probably waiting to get back. Jake Pledry at two 42 flanker number eight eligible.
00:45:55
Speaker
He's going to be a got to see it guy. Yeah, again, mostly mostly because of the club he plays for in their Mercurial status. He'll start at least. So, yeah. Start is yes, but perform. I don't know. I need to, you know. Right. Tom Young's 238. Yeah, I think so either. Cordinal Skosan. Wing only. Northampton 237.
00:46:21
Speaker
No, I know. Yeah, that's it. Got to see it. Yeah. Yeah. If he ever comes back to life, Jonathan, 232. Yes. Yeah. Although that's hard because Sinclair is going to I think that that's, you know, he's a no. It's a no for me, dog. I think he's going to be too. He's going to be more relegated to the bench. Yeah. And then last one, Stephen, the beast to 31.
00:46:50
Speaker
Yes, for when Maro Toji is away. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. It's hard. Otherwise, actually, you know what? No, because there's so many other point scorers for Quinn's. I would invest with them. Yeah. Like I said, that back line is just... And Dom Brandt. Like, I have... I started five... I think I started my fill of Quinn's this weekend. My whole entire life. I think you can get six. Maybe I started six. Should I start six? Either way.
00:47:21
Speaker
Yeah, I don't. No, I did start six. I started, I started Kenning him too. I had Kenning him. Yeah, I had Kenning him as well. Kenning him, Dom Brent Care, Marchant, Lina Green, so.
00:47:33
Speaker
I just don't know that there's room for, I mean, maybe Kenningham for, for the visa swap. Yeah. Maybe that'd be the swap at this point. All right.
Pick'em Results Discussion
00:47:41
Speaker
Pick them bad news for you. I've got, I got a bigger league. I mean, listen, when we get to six nations time and we're doing super rugby in this, there's so much time to make up at that point. There is even champions cup. Like there's a lot of matches in champions cup weekend. So yeah, turn that over. They'll come in December though. Okay. Um, Friday nights sale and Quinn's.
00:48:03
Speaker
Quince. Once again, I will take the team with the 10. I don't know which 10 they'll be playing, but they'll be playing a better 10 than Sailwell. Yeah, it doesn't matter which one. Newcastle and Bristol up in the tune. Newcastle. Yeah, Bristol's in the down with the tune. It's a home match and Newcastle are playing rugby right now.
00:48:31
Speaker
Uh, was an exit. This is going to be interesting because of the hooker situation there.
00:48:35
Speaker
It is. That, that part will be interesting. I still think wasps win. Same. Same. Same. Wooster Lester. Oops. Sorry. That's nevermind. That's sorry. What team that can score points will win. Yeah. That's only one of them on that. They're going to have to, they're going to have to turn on it six ways to get done against Lester. And I'm not sure it happens. Uh, uh, Irish and Gloucester. Gloucester. Yeah. I just haven't won a, won a prem game since what late last March.
00:49:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, it's been a long time. And it's not, they're not clicking so well. And Gloucester kind of are. And Gloucester are beaten. Like, they've played a pretty decent schedule. The teams that they've lost to are top of the table. So what are you going to do?
00:49:20
Speaker
Adam Hastings, Voldemort, Adam Hastings, Voldemort. I'm into the I'm into the Adam Hastings part of that. Yeah. Yeah. Just me. To the right, Bath and Saracens. This is always a messy one. This is always a messy one. But I am going to back the boys in black. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Beth.
00:49:38
Speaker
Not right now. At least they've had plenty of time to get themselves ready. But who's their 10? Is Sips coming back? I don't know. I don't know what the statistic is. Bailey has played pretty well in his stead. He hasn't done bad. But I'm not sure he's seen this yet.
00:49:57
Speaker
But again, you know, this is just as we were talking about this bath really only have two threats in their back line. They have some I mean, you know, we didn't talk about Underhill who's been I hope he's I hope he's healthy for this for their sake. Yeah, there's plenty of potential bath bolters, but Saris, you know, can can take out two or three of them. It's just a question of, OK, who else, you know, who else can step up for a bath? And I don't see anybody there who can. Right. Right. Right.
00:50:28
Speaker
No, no joke. Okay. All
Show Wrap-up and Listener Appreciation
00:50:31
Speaker
right. There's that. Yeah. So much fun guys. So much fun. All right. So, uh, yeah, we kept, we tried to keep this one brief, but we knew we had some things to solve and help kind of people parse out the thoughts a little bit here. So that's why we took the time to do it. Um,
00:50:50
Speaker
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00:51:08
Speaker
Right, it might throw these because I take notes for my, you know, start sits. Maybe we could just throw them into a post so that if you know we can totally that day. Yeah, yeah, we can we can totally do that. I think we can manage that one. Definitely. Okay, so
00:51:22
Speaker
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00:51:38
Speaker
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