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The Holmes Files — DT Lemon | #PODPOD
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Two of the brightest minds in the game — DT Lemon (3rd overall in 2021) and the PODPOD's Holmesy (2nd in 2021) — discuss all things AFL Fantasy, going in-depth on strategy and players and sharing plenty of their thoughts as the 2023 season edges ever closer!
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Transcript
Introduction and Special Episode Announcement
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome to a special Friday episode of the Pod Pod. As promised, we have another one of Holmsey's one-on-one interviews. This time, it's with DT Lemon, who finished third in 2021. Now, if you remember Holmsey, he mentions it enough.
00:00:17
Speaker
He finished second in the same year, so they had a bit of back and forth that year. They've kept in touch since, and DT Lemon's become a bit of a voice in the fantasy community. He's just a master of team value, always boasting one of the highest team values by season's end, and is another great fantasy mind for Homsey to pick the brain of.
Listener Engagement and Participation
00:00:37
Speaker
Now, before we get into the episode, I'd like to let you know we're running again the Pod Pod Challenge Open League. So this is different from our Listener League draft, which I forgot to mention on Wednesday's show. We will be running that in the week in between. We've got these trial games. So this week we'll be doing the trial recap and then after that we will be doing the Listener League draft. So you still have a little bit of time to get your entries in.
00:01:03
Speaker
We've shuffled that around a bit. So now you've got another extra week to get in your reviews on Apple Podcasts where we'll be drafting listeners to represent us in a little bit of a different format listener league. So you've got to go get your review and rating in on there. Let us know why you want us to draft you and then four of us will be drafting you. Maybe even harm me if he gets some some reviews in there as well. Back to the Pod Pod Challenge, the code. I just want to let you know the code. Our listeners.
00:01:36
Speaker
or you could just go to the join a league tab and search the pod pod challenge. That's probably a little bit easier. Anyway, let's get into this conversation between homesie and DT lemon. I can't wait.
DT Lemon's Fantasy Football Journey
00:02:05
Speaker
Alright guys, welcome back to another Pod Pod interview. I'm joined by another special guest today and a coach that I always love catching up and talking fantasy with is someone that you might have seen on Twitter, DT Lemon. I think he was probably the most active coach on Twitter.
00:02:20
Speaker
all throughout 2022, being very generous with his time, posting his team, his trades and answering questions. But he's been flying a little bit more under the radar this year, which I don't actually mind. But you might have heard him on the Hat Chat podcast last week. But DT Lemon, how you going, mate?
00:02:38
Speaker
Yeah, good. Thanks, mate. Thanks for having me on. It's always good to chat fantasy with another successful coach and really anyone to be honest. So yeah, it has been a bit of a low key off season just trying to keep a lid on it and trying to not lock in too many players too early. There's obviously still a lot to happen between now and round one. So yeah, it's creeping up on us though and looking forward to it.
00:03:00
Speaker
Yeah, mate, to be honest, I'm absolutely chomping at the bit to see hopefully more real footy this week and then obviously the week off before we're away and in round one. So it's really the most exciting part of the year and I can't wait to get stuck into it. So for those listeners that might not know too much about you, why don't you give us just a little bit of a background about who you are and what your sort of fantasy successes have been in the past.
00:03:27
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. So yeah, DT Lemon, I've been playing fantasy for a few years now. Started to take it a bit more seriously two years ago, when I just had a bit more time on my hands after a career change. And yeah, had a really good year in 2021. Ended up finishing third, just a couple of points, 11 points behind first, and what was it, seven points behind you, mate? So that was a tense finish at the end there, but
00:03:52
Speaker
I mean, altogether a really great year. I sort of learnt a lot about fantasy in that year. And then, yeah, last year had a pretty good year. Ended up finishing somewhere in the top 300. I can't remember the number exactly, 271 or something, but not a bad year. Didn't start particularly well and just sort of struggled to gain on the top 100. They really got away from me there at the end. So another pretty good year. And then, yeah, did a bit of AFLW fantasy in the off-season as well and got a hat there.
00:04:22
Speaker
feel like I've had three pretty good seasons and yeah looking forward to hopefully backing it up this year. I feel like I'm due for a hat again so that's the plan at the moment but we'll see how we go.
00:04:36
Speaker
Yeah. So the, you know, the reason I love talking to you. So for those of you that don't know, so Lemon back when he came third in 2021, he was easily the best team coming into that round. He was easily the best team for about the last five or six rounds. I think he ended up with a team value that was 1 million more than Ashley's Bombers who finished first. And I think even he was about 500 or 600 K ahead of me as well. So
00:04:59
Speaker
He's a man that knows how to build a squad like no other. That kind of team value was nothing we'd really seen before. Unfortunately, he just couldn't get over me in that last round. My team just had one out of the box. Unfortunately, he couldn't get the win. The reason I want to chat to you is last year as well, as I mentioned, you were very active on Twitter. You posted your team. You were talking about your trades each week. You were giving everyone such good advice.
00:05:26
Speaker
the fact that you were still able to finish in the top 300. I was nowhere near that last year, but that just shows that you are a very good coach. You know what you're doing. And I'm very excited to have a chat with you now and really give some good insight to the listeners. So let's talk about that 2021 season a little bit more in depth and then we'll move forward. So what were your sort of learnings and takeaways from that really successful season?
Fantasy Strategies and Team Building
00:05:50
Speaker
Oh yeah, so it's a crazy season and looking back, I'm completely stoked with how it all went. I think obviously the team value you mentioned before, I made that a bit of a priority for me early on in the season particularly, was just to really chase those rookies who could score.
00:06:09
Speaker
chase the mid prices who I thought were going to really pop and continue to make some cash and just constantly, you know, things like holding your premiums, holding guys who may be injured for one or two weeks and just really focusing on the cash generation side of things, particularly early on. I think later on in the year you can
00:06:26
Speaker
you can definitely focus more on getting points on field. But earlier on the year, those first couple of rounds, picking our teams now, we need to make sure we're looking at guys who are going to go up to 300K. We want to try and get as many of them in our team as we can.
00:06:41
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, every year people say it's a trading game and it's always hard after that first round that, you know, sometimes you don't have a great round and you think, I'm no chance of winning this thing. I won't be able to get close. But in the end, it is a trading game. You know, the first round I wasn't, I don't think it was even in the top thousand. And then after that round two came back a bit more as I expected. And you can just, if with good trades, you can just constantly chip away. There's plenty of points to be had.
00:07:08
Speaker
and these guys over 22-23 rounds, you can catch up pretty quickly if you're getting 5-10 points here and there per game over the space of a year, that's quite a lot. So I think that just really seeking the value in every trade you do, every player you bring in, look at the value,
00:07:28
Speaker
and really try and nail the Valley guys, which then allows you to bring in top of the line players. And that's the other thing I did that year that worked really well. I didn't waste too much time going for a top 10, top 20 player. I was really looking at who's the best in the line, who are the best six defenders, who are the best eight midfielders, and just bringing those guys in straight away.
00:07:51
Speaker
don't mess around with the guys who might have to be traded out again. Just trying to bring in guys you know are going to be good for the rest of the year, lock that position away and then keep trying to build those guys into your team. Eventually you get to the point where you've got this huge team value, you've got these amazing premiums in your side who you know are going to deliver and then you just need a few things to go your way to hopefully win a car at the end of it.
00:08:15
Speaker
Yeah, I think the point that you make about the trading game is spot on. So you said you just finished round one just outside the top thousand, whereas I'm pretty sure I was 23K. So I've started at 23K, you've started at around 1K and we've both ended up pretty much around the same spot. So it just shows that there's not one way to play this game.
00:08:34
Speaker
But you are right, it's super important early to nail those rookies and something that stuck out with me just then was the mid prices. So we can kind of just talk about that a little bit. Now, understand you might not have your 2021 starting squad on you or be able to remember everything, but were you someone that started a lot of mid prices that worked out in your favor? Or were you someone that started a little bit more guns and rookies and then traded into those mid prices once you actually saw the role and saw the value that was on offer?
00:09:04
Speaker
Yeah, definitely that year I was definitely more guns and rookies. I can't remember exactly which mid prices I had. I had a couple that failed on me. I think I had Tom Phillips. He was the 2021 mid price that found a lot of people. I think I had him and a few others that didn't really deliver for me.
00:09:23
Speaker
But I think what I did get right was I got all of my rookies right. I maybe had one too many, but the ones that I didn't miss any of the big ones, that was important. I had all of the guys I needed to have, which then allowed me to concentrate my trades on
00:09:38
Speaker
jumping on the mid prices. I didn't have fixing up premiums, you know, covering injuries. I didn't miss out on any rookies. So I pretty much made huge amounts of cash from every single line. Bench rookies are playing well. On field rookies I managed to sort of nail as well. And that we were pretty lucky that year. I think we had a lot of rookies. You could do that. I think I might've had seven to start on field, which was quite high.
00:10:04
Speaker
See, I think that's it's tough every year. You know, I think this year I may be taking a punt on a few more mid prices because I think that's what you need to do to to really push yourself into that top 100. You can't afford to miss out on on too many of these really good mid prices. Guns and rookies is I don't want to say dead, but I think I think people are better
00:10:28
Speaker
the knowledge is better now, we have a better understanding of mid prices who are gonna pop and therefore if you're just going guns and rookies, it's a pretty safe approach but you might not be able to win a hat. So that's sort of where I'm heading this year. I'm interested to hear your thoughts mate, if that's where you're looking as well.
00:10:47
Speaker
Yeah, mate, to be honest, I have the same sort of thoughts. I completely understand these days that, you know, pure guns and rookies is dead. I still like to try and set up more guns and rookies in terms of not necessarily the top top liners that are fully priced or overpriced, but still trying to find the guns that are a little bit underpriced but will still push those top, you know, six to eight spots because we know that those are the scorers and we are going to need them eventually.
00:11:13
Speaker
You are right. The content is better than ever. The research is better than ever. The coverage of all players is better than ever. And we do definitely need to start with a few more mid prices here and there that are going to present value to get those team values up nice and early to be able to get those top liners. So I do agree with that. I remember sort of listening to you talking on a few podcasts last year and even sort of tracking your trades early. I definitely was someone that was following along with what you were doing.
00:11:40
Speaker
when you were posting your trades on Twitter every week. And one thing that stuck out with me is that you were so incredibly disciplined with your rookie trading. So early days when a lot of people were sort of going sideways with their premiums or, you know, taking a punt here and there, I know you were, you know, a rookie got to, you know, 350, 400, whatever it was, or even when they were dropped and they were only at sort of 270, 300 and you just dropped them down to the next rookie straight away and away you went. So is that the kind of strategy that you like to look with your cash generation early days?
00:12:11
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. I think it's always hard with rookies. Some of them get dropped for one or two weeks, then come back in and end up playing really well. But definitely, I think the key strategy I employed last year was not jumping at shadows with my premiums. You've got to back yourself in with these.
00:12:31
Speaker
proven guns sometimes they have bad weeks and sometimes that just happens to be the start of the year and I think we get to this habit some some coaches where we we think I'll just do another another round of fix-ups are just one more round of fix-ups I'll try my rookies next week but you know you've got a you got to look at your squad as a whole you might have
00:12:50
Speaker
you know, maybe 15, 20, maybe up to 20 rookies in your team, starting team, including your bench rookies. And you've got to try and get those guys out quickly. We've only got two trades a week. So theoretically you're going to need seven, eight, maybe nine rounds to actually get all of your rookies that have made cash and convert that cash onto your field. So you can't afford to be a week late or two weeks late on cashing those rookies in.
Adaptation and Strategy Evolution
00:13:18
Speaker
So I think that was definitely a,
00:13:20
Speaker
definitely a strange of mine that worked. It doesn't pay off immediately. I think that's the thing that you've got to look at. It took me, I think I did probably four or five downgrades last year before I actually got the first upgrade just by sidewaysing rookies, just the 50K here, 100K here. But then it meant that around five or six, I got the first upgrade, which was to a premium midfielder, a captain option, someone who stayed in my team for the whole year. And then that means that I've still got that cash generation coming on the bench as well.
00:13:49
Speaker
I see a lot of people early on, particularly, they just forget about their bench and try and massage the points on field. You've got to really make sure, think a few weeks ahead, make sure you're going to have that rookie who's popped in four or five weeks time to then cash them in and keep those upgrades going. Because realistically, we should be downgrading upgrading until we get to a full squad. You've got to make sure you've got enough cash to actually do that and not run out when you get to around 11 or 12.
00:14:18
Speaker
Yeah, it's interesting, right? So the old philosophy of making sure you hold your premiums, it definitely holds true. And I believe in it as well, but it's about having that fantasy IQ to not be afraid to jump off that underperforming premium if they aren't.
00:14:34
Speaker
really performing to the level that you initially thought so you do have to back in your research but you know Matty Mottram last year round three traded out Brody Grundy and admittedly he had Proust on the bench who he really needed to get on his field but he had the sort of IQ to be ahead of the pack he traded out Brody Grundy who did get injured the next week so maybe if he didn't get injured the next week you know that doesn't you know work out as well as it did in his favour initially but
00:14:57
Speaker
by him being able to get off Grundy, have a little mini restructure. I think he got in Andy Brayshaw from memory and bring Proust on the field. That was the way that he was able to get a jump on the competition. So you are right. Holding your premiums is definitely key. But in this modern day of fantasy, you can't be afraid to jump off your premiums as well if they are underperforming because there's so much good content and good coaches out there.
00:15:19
Speaker
But you are right, I think if you do just get caught in the trap of flipping all your premiums early days and wasting those trades, then you can get caught a little bit down the track, which I think from memory last year, that's kind of how I did. I think I managed to get pretty close to the top 500 coming out of the buyers. But unfortunately, a few early mistakes meant that my cash gen and that was halted around, you know, once the buyers finished, which kind of meant that I was just on a downward spiral after that. Would you agree with that?
00:15:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think that's, it's really interesting point around Matty Mottram bringing a trading Grundy, bringing Proust onto the field. You know, that's one thing you've got to look at early on. We've got to identify which rookies are scoring well, and you've got to try and find a way to get them onto your ground. So there's no point having
00:16:03
Speaker
you know, four forward rookies who are all scoring really well, but two of them are on your bench. You know, you've got to try and work out how do I get them onto the ground and put the worst scoring rookies onto the bench somehow, or maybe do a bit of a rearrange, trade them up to someone. So, you know, Proust was a great example last year. Having Proust on your bench was a great move. You made lots of cash, but having him on your ground was just a slam dunk because you're getting the cash gen and you're getting 80s, 90s, you know, you're getting really good scores out of him.
00:16:32
Speaker
You know Grundy was barely scoring that sometimes last year as well. So Yeah getting points on the ground early Definitely important and I think rookies, you know, that's that's a great thing about rookies is that the high scoring ones, you know Nick Martin last year If you didn't have him early you just lost so much cash generation and you lost the points on field because he was scoring better than the other options so
00:16:57
Speaker
Yeah, it's really interesting. There's no one way to do it. Everyone does something slightly different, but I think the overall strategy needs to be keep the cash generation going, get as many points on the field as you can, and then just keep that cash chipping away so that you don't get to a position where you were last year where you've got that last position on field to upgrade and you've got nothing in the bank to do it with, no one on the bench.
00:17:21
Speaker
You just sort of end up, you get a bit lost there because you've got, you know, it takes three or four weeks to rookies to make money and you can't just flip them immediately. So, um, yeah.
00:17:32
Speaker
Yeah, so your strategy in 2022 worked, sorry, 2021 worked extremely well. How did you feel that that strategy lined up previously, sorry, last year in 2022? So clearly you finished top 300, which is a very, very good finish in modern fantasy. I still believe anyone that finishes inside the top 1000 has had a sensational season with how hard it is these days. But do you feel like the strategy lined up well?
00:18:01
Speaker
Yeah it was interesting I was looking back on that the other day and you know I had so much success in 2021 I thought oh this is great I'll just do the same thing again and that will get me a hat or maybe I'll win the car this time but every season is different there's different
00:18:18
Speaker
numbers of rookies, there's different fallen premiums, there's no real one way to win it and it changes every year. So I think I got a bit stuck in the idea of just using the same strategy, maybe picking some guys that I was a bit biased towards some of the uber premiums I had from the start.
00:18:36
Speaker
And that really, that sort of backed me into a bit of a corner there because the rookies weren't as strong last year as they were in 2021. And I went pretty heavy on the rookies. I ended up getting caught in a few different ways, you know, guys getting dropped and then I just didn't have that cash generation. And because I neglected a lot of these mid prices, I had to do some rearranging trying to get these guys in. So yeah, last year was definitely a lesson learned for me.
00:19:01
Speaker
You can't just do the same thing every year. So what worked last year won't work this year. You've got to look at all the players as a whole. Where is the value? Is it in the premiums? Is it in the mid prices? Is it in the rookies? Which lines? There's no one strategy that's going to win.
00:19:17
Speaker
So I think this year is really interesting with the way the rookies are panning out. There might not be a lot of midfield rookies or straight midfield rookies in our team, so we might have a really interesting position where we can pretty much pick whoever we want as a starting squad. We might be able to put a few rookies in our midfield, defence all forward rookies, and that means you pretty much can pick whoever you want to pick.
00:19:40
Speaker
which is a really interesting position. Normally you can't get enough midfielders into your team. This year it seems like that's changed a bit, that people want a lot of forwards, there's a lot of defence rookies. It's going to be really interesting to see how that all plays out because that's very different to the last couple of years where most of our rookies are in the midfield and most of the players we want are in the midfield and we have to try and find ways to fit them all in. That's something I'm really interested to see how it turns out this year.
00:20:07
Speaker
Yeah, that's a fantastic point that you've made in terms of each season being different. And you think, and I'm guilty of this as well. So, you know, top 10 in 2018, I've gone away, had a few lean years, come back and gone really, really well in 2021 and thought, yeah, this is great.
00:20:24
Speaker
I've got my blueprint now. I know how to play the game. What worked in that year, I thought I'd just be able to roll straight into 2022 and the season's completely different. It's the year of the mid price of where you get, you know, four or even five of those mid prices that ended up being keepers or if not keepers guys that we could hold for large parts of the season because they were putting up sort of top.
00:20:45
Speaker
you know 10 numbers in their sort of lines and and yeah this you know it's all different and and you don't go as well so I am interested to hear your thoughts you kind of went over it a little bit but let's sort of stick to the rookies now how are you seeing the rookies this year because I know last year and admittedly this time last year we didn't really have a Nick Martin he came from nowhere so we we might still get one from nowhere and I'm not sort of banking
2023 Rookie and Player Market Analysis
00:21:07
Speaker
on it but
00:21:07
Speaker
We don't have a Nick Martin. Yeah, Ashcroft might end up being a good day cost type, but I can't really see him. He's definitely not going to get defensive status and with the way he's going at the moment, it looks like he's going to be a predominant midfielder as well. So he might not even get forward status first. So that's completely different again. How are you seeing the rookies this year? And then I'll sort of give my two cents as well.
00:21:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's really interesting. I'm sort of holding out for Nick Martin or Jack Hayes or someone just to bob up that is a slam dunk, high scorer with a good role, good job security. But there's not that many of them. I think a lot of these rookies at the moment have question marks. Maybe that'll be a bit clearer after we see some proper practice matches this week. I'm hoping that'll be the case.
00:21:53
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's really interesting. In terms of pure midfield rookies, I'm not seeing that many this year. There's Will Ashcroft, Will Phillips that lots of people have been talking about. Other than that, there doesn't seem to be too many slam dunks in the midfield. There's question marks over Cam McKenzie.
00:22:09
Speaker
You know, a lot of people had Matthew Johnson in the side. It looks like he might not get a game. So we're going to be in a really interesting position where the rookies, probably the most of the rookies are going to have, you know, forward or defender status, which is something new for us. I think that's, it's going to be really interesting because
00:22:28
Speaker
Traditionally, obviously, the better scoring players are in the midfield on the wings. That's where we want our rookies to be. If they're playing back pocket, that might not be a great scoring role. That might be a 30 or a 40 sometimes. Some of these guys, it's really hard to predict if they're best 22 because there's heaps of guys on the list that can fill that spot.
00:22:51
Speaker
I think it's really fascinating this year. You know, defence in particular looks like there's a lot of guys who are going to get picked. A lot of rookie-priced players are going to get picked. My concern is that a lot of these guys won't have the scoring potential that we would normally expect. You know, we got a bit lucky last year with Sam DeConig really came along as a player.
00:23:11
Speaker
looked like he was going to be a 30s 40s kind of guy and then as the season went on he just got better and better and better more involved in the game plan ended up being a really great pick made us a lot of cash and stuck around great job security you know I'm not sure if we're going to get that kind of guy again this year so yeah it's I think it's fascinating at the moment seeing how it all plays out a lot of these high draft picks have
00:23:33
Speaker
you know, a defender or forward status, which is great, but they also have some pretty unclear roles, I think. So, you know, that's important. It's really easy just to look at the NAB league results and say, oh, they averaged 100 in the NAB league. That means they can score 60, 70, 80 in the AFL. But we've got to remember that in the NAB league, they were probably the number one mid in their team, getting as many CBAs as they wanted, running around after the ball. You know, that's not going to happen at AFL level. Will Ashcroft will probably do that.
00:24:04
Speaker
Everyone else, it looks like they'll be, you know, they'll be coming off the bench. They might have some time at half forward, forward pocket, maybe on the wing. So we have to be really careful about these guys. You can't just look at what they scored last year and project this year. You have to look at their role as well. Where are they going to line up for these clubs? You know, is there a position for them in the midfield or on the wing, on the half back line? Or maybe they're going to get thrown around into, you know, the forward pocket for a bit.
00:24:31
Speaker
that kind of thing. How do you see the rookies playing out mate?
00:24:35
Speaker
Yeah, look, to be honest, mate, I am a little bit concerned. So the thing that kind of sticks out for me is that last year, the rookies that we ended up getting, that ended up being good picks for us. If we think de Koning, been in the system for a couple of years, you had Paddy McCartan, who was mature age. Daikos was the obvious exception, but Nick Martin was mature age. Cherry was mature age. Jack Hayes was mature age. A lot of these guys that we ended up getting were
00:25:01
Speaker
mature bodies that were able to come in and play a role, a decent role early on. Whereas a lot of the rookies that we're getting this year are the draftees. And we know that, you know, COVID's gone now, but they've had so much of their football development interrupted throughout 2020, 2021, 2022. Think
00:25:20
Speaker
You know, Chesa hasn't played a lot of footy. You know, Ginby, yes, there's a lot of hype around him at the moment, but I genuinely don't believe that he's going to get much midfield time, if any. I think that's just a pre-season sort of role for him to kind of develop. But I think when, you know, when round one rolls around, I'd be very surprised if he's in the midfield.
00:25:40
Speaker
You're looking at a Josh Weddle who's playing for Hawthorne who are going to be probably the one of the worst fantasy scoring teams in the comp and one of the worst performing teams in the comp with a very low nab league average to begin with. And then you're looking at, you know, your Mackenzie's, your Sheezles, your Sheezles, sorry, Sheezles and your Phillipoos who, yes, seem to be quite gun players and have good nab league scores, but, you know, they're going to be playing forward in developing sides that, you know, are probably going to find it pretty tough when the ball's not down in the forward line very often.
00:26:10
Speaker
I am actually genuinely a little bit worried about the rookies this year. I think we're going to get enough, but whether they're going to be, you know, score well enough to be able to play a role for us on field is one thing and whether they're actually going to play consistent enough games to get, you know, five, six, seven games in a row to earn enough cash is another thing as well because with this new sub rule,
00:26:27
Speaker
If one of them gets subbed off for a low scorer, they come on for a 10, their cash gen's completely done, and then you're needing to trade them out. So I'm a little bit worried. So for that reason, I think we're trying to, in my, I'm trying to get some on the field that I'm semi-confident with, but I am trying to look elsewhere to make sure that I've got some scorers on field too.
00:26:47
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's really important. These guys, if they are not ready made for AFL in terms of their fitness or their body, they'd be easy ones to sub out in a five goal game, 10 goal game. You can sub them out after two and a half, three quarters and just keep their legs fresh, which is great for the coaches, great for the player, but for fantasy coaches, it's terrible. And they might also rotate them through the subs as well. We've got to remember that.
00:27:16
Speaker
that always happens, there'll always be times where these guys get dropped and then come on as the sub. So yeah, I think it's really interesting. The top price rookies are priced at, I think it's like an average of 32 or something. So you really want 20 plus points on that to be worthwhile. So you're looking at them averaging 50 to 60 as a sort of minimum. I think a lot of these top price players might not get the role to do that. So it's gonna be really interesting to see
00:27:44
Speaker
If any of them have that fantasy-friendly role that we're looking for, that's going to be something that will keep me in close eye on this week. As you said, it just happens that this year we don't have those mature ages popping up just yet. There's still time and there'll be injuries over the next week or two that might then give an opportunity to one of these mature age guys.
00:28:06
Speaker
It definitely is a bit scarier picking a 19, 18-year-old than a 25-year-old who the team's just picked up. You're not picking up a 25-year-old if you're not going to play them, whereas an 18, 19-year-old, you're just expecting to play them in a few years. So there's not that real urgency of getting them into the side.
00:28:27
Speaker
Yeah and I think that point you made around like these top price rookies being priced at you know I think Cadman being the number one pick I think yeah he's priced around that 33 34 and then they're all go down from there but a lot of the guys we're looking at around that sort of 280k price range are all up around that 32 mark so
00:28:45
Speaker
We have this kind of thing in the fantasy community where we think that, you know, it's pretty easy for rookies to average 60 or 65. But if you actually go back and look through it, like only the really elite rookies average above that. We've had, you know, we've been pretty blessed with, like we said, Daikos and Nick Martin and those type of players. But more often than not, rookies, you know, if they score 50 to 55, that's a good result. And it's good for us if they're from a basement price. But if they're coming from that 30, 32 price range, that's actually not a lot of cash made for us. And
00:29:13
Speaker
It does make it quite tough. You think like a Josh Rosselli last year, high draft pick, he was such a good cash generator for us, but that's only because he scored two tonnes in his first three or four games and that really kickstarted his cash gen. He only averaged around that 55 mark. So if they have that sort of flat average around that 55 mark, it does make it quite tough. So that's something else I'm kind of considering. Do you agree with that?
00:29:36
Speaker
Yeah, definitely, definitely. I think it's, yeah, it's going to be really interesting. And you can, you can look at it and find a lot of mid prices who will probably increase their average by 15, 20 points. So that's where we've got to sort of work out, you know, is it better to have the rookie on field scoring 50 points, or do you take another mid price who might increase their average by 20 points, maybe become a keeper at the end of the year, maybe not.
00:30:03
Speaker
I think there's definitely a balance there that we're going to have to try and work out come the start of the year.
00:30:09
Speaker
Yeah, awesome. All right, so let's kind of take this a little bit sort of line by line now. So I'm quite aware that I don't want you to reveal too much of your team. So you don't have to reveal any of your team so far. But I want to talk similar to how we did with Mini Monk about a month ago. We're going to go line by line. And I just want to talk a little bit about strategy and how you're kind of seeing it in terms of structure maybe. And maybe we'll talk a little bit about specific players because we have seen some footy now. So clearly those situations have changed since we spoke a month ago. But
00:30:37
Speaker
Let's talk about the defence first because the defence is one line that we are really kind of struggling with along with the rucks or that R2 spot. So how are you seeing the defence at the moment?
00:30:48
Speaker
It's tough this year, isn't it? I think we've been blessed in the previous couple of years. We've always had those midfielders who've had defender status and a sort of no brainer picks. But this year, it just seems a lot harder to find those guys. So I'm really struggling with my premium defenders who I want to start with to start the year.
00:31:08
Speaker
I've rotated a lot of guys through my D1, D2 positions and not exactly sure where that's going to land. I think for me, in terms of structure, I'm looking at starting probably two to three guys who I think are going to be keeper defenders, so your top six defenders, one of those guys with a bit more value than the other two.
00:31:31
Speaker
and then looking at sort of three cheaper players in my defence on field. So, you know, one guy between sort of three and 400K, there's a few different options there that could take that spot and then two rookies on field in defence. I think we've got enough defender rookies at this point.
00:31:48
Speaker
that we probably will definitely be safe starting one. I think two might be more common and we've got a few that can still fit on the bench then as well to make some cash. So at the moment, structure-wise, that's where I'm looking. I've looked at having a slightly cheaper back line, maybe having an extra mid-pricer in there, putting the premium somewhere else, maybe in the midfield.
00:32:10
Speaker
It's really tough to know at this point. I think you just gotta be flexible and don't get sold on a particular structure because that happened to me last year a bit. I got sort of hooked into a structure and then in the forward line we had just a plethora of really great mid-price value options and I basically restructured to get some of them in. So don't be too sold on your structures at the moment. Have an idea in mind.
00:32:37
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's sort of where I'm running in the in the defense structure at the moment. How about you? Yeah, I think it's interesting, right? So I know a lot of people are trying to save money in defense, and I'm kind of of that strategy as well. I think a lot of the top price defenders are fairly priced or maybe even a little bit overpriced. And we did have a bit of a year out of the box last year with defenders. So going off, you know, previous years and averages normally, you know, your top six defenders average sort of that 95 to 100 mark in
00:33:06
Speaker
All of a sudden this year we had a dock go 110. We had Sinclair out of the box go 104. We had Dawson break out and be just over 100. Brayshore was near 100. So is that how the game is played at the moment in terms of now that the 666 moving away from this sort of chip mark game and more run and gun, which means that they kind of set up from defence. They chip around back there and then they just go.
00:33:31
Speaker
Is that more how fantasy is going to be played this year? So are those players fairly priced slash maybe a little bit underpriced if they can go a little bit better or are they going to come crashing back to earth? So that's what I'm kind of trying to work through. I still am a little bit worried and tentative about trying to start too many of these guys or even any of them in this sort of high 80s, low 90s range. So like I know a lot of people are big on a Hayden Young or a Nick Daikos.
00:33:57
Speaker
And I know it's because we are starved of value this year, so we are looking for a bit more of a breakout than we might necessarily have done in the past, but I do worry with these kind of players with a Hayden Young, even at day cost, I'm not as big on. If they just are what they are and they average that sort of 86 to 90 range and they don't really improve, but they aren't putting up the scores that are, you know, what a top six should
00:34:19
Speaker
put up. It could be a little bit of Will Phillips territory where you don't get the points, you don't get the cash gen and you're kind of in no man's land. So that's what I kind of am tossing up with at the moment. So I am right. I am at the moment looking to have two pretty good D1 and D2. Now I'm not saying that I'm paying up for those big dogs, but I am trying to at the moment put in two guys that I feel are under priced, but are genuine top six guys with little risk.
00:34:45
Speaker
I'm very happy to start. I'll say at an Elliott Yo at D3, I think he's done absolutely nothing wrong and I think everyone should be seriously looking at that. But whether you put him at D3 or D4 is going to be a bit of a hot topic moving forward. The other thing is about the rookies. I'm not as sold as you on the rookies. I admit that we are going to get a lot of them, I think. I think, you know, we'll probably get a gym B
00:35:06
Speaker
I'm not sold that we'll get a Chesse yet. I know they're still building his loads and if he comes around one and he's named, he's definitely someone we lock away. We might get a Weddle. We might get a McVie from Melbourne. There might be a Chincotta or a Cowan that pops up. So we might have a lot of options, but I am worried about starting two of them on field at this point.
00:35:26
Speaker
I'm kind of looking at that 300 to 400k range. So I think your Charlie constables, your Jaden hunts, your Connor McKenna's who, you know, might not have been someone we'd look at in earlier seasons when we have the strong rookies come through. But I think there's definitely scope for those guys to improve as much as the rookies will. So they'd make the same amount of cash, but have far better job security. Do you agree with that?
00:35:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's interesting. I think, yeah, I mean, you've named all the big ones there.
00:36:00
Speaker
You're right, though. I think that what we're worried about with these defender rookies is role. Can they actually put up a 50 or a 60? And I think a lot of these guys will be playing back pocket. They're not going to be the main distributor. They might have some poor scores that will slow their cash generation. So I think there's definitely, we're lucky in the sense that we've got a few of those options at 300 to 400K.
Defense and Midfield Strategies
00:36:21
Speaker
And I wouldn't be surprised if a few teams run maybe two of those guys. I think that might be the play.
00:36:29
Speaker
And, and yeah, it's, it's always an interesting one. I think the other thing we can consider is with the utility, um, you've got a bit of flexibility there. So, you know, what I'm looking at is if there's a line that I'm not too sure on, you might want to have that utility spot supporting that position. So for instance, if you're, uh, the moment I've got two, two defender rookies on field, two on the bench, and then there's a possibility to have the fifth one as utility. So I've got the five to choose from.
00:36:55
Speaker
I've got to fill two spots out of the five. If that utility spot was actually taken by a forward rookie, I might be a bit more uncomfortable about running the two defender rookies on field, because then you've got to pick two out of four.
00:37:08
Speaker
I think that's something people can consider is, you know, you've got the utility, how you use that is pretty important. The other thing that we might be doing this year is we might have another rookie in your midfield that sits on the bench there with defender status or forward status. So you can look at that, you know, over the five or six guys you've got, you might only have to play two of them. We should get a couple of scorers out of these guys. There might be one guy that surprises us.
00:37:30
Speaker
there's probably going to be another guy that disappoints us. But as long as you can sort of work that out pretty quickly and get the right guy on the field, we should be okay at least to get the points coming through. But yeah, it's definitely a concern there. You know, even the guys on your bench, you want them to go up in value pretty quickly ideally so that you can then cash them in. You know, if they're only going to increase their average by 10, 20 points and it's going to be a bit of a slow burn, that might give you some headaches when it comes to sort of downgrade upgrade season.
00:38:01
Speaker
Yep, so let's talk a little bit about mid prices then. Are there any sort of mid prices that you're looking at in defence at the moment? I know the flavour of the month is Will Day, who I am actually quite cold on. I know Jack Bose is a little bit of the talk after his pre-season game, where he seemed to have found plenty of the ball off that half forward line in the first quarter, but how are you sort of seeing the mid prices in defence? We won't count Yo as a mid-pricer, as I think at this stage he can be classified as an under-priced premium.
00:38:30
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's really interesting. I'm definitely keeping an eye on bows and day. I don't think we can really lock them in or rule them out from what we've seen so far. But I think if starting with bows, I think that we know what Geelong do with their players. We know how deep they run.
00:38:47
Speaker
if you were trying to pick their best 22 right now, you'd probably get three or four players wrong. So I think he might be one of those guys that we might get wrong. Maybe he plays half forward flank, maybe he gets him on ball time. Maybe he doesn't even get picked. Maybe he's in and out of the best 22. We don't really know. And I think a lot of people saw the article that said that they promised him a best 22 spot a couple of months ago when they brought him in. I think we all know what was at stake for Geelong getting that pick seven along with him.
00:39:17
Speaker
And if I was Geelong, I'd promise him the world as well just to get him on board and bring in a nice rookie with pick seven. So I wouldn't put too much into that. The coach and the selection panel at Geelong aren't going to be talking about promises made four months when they come to pick their team. They're going to pick their team based on the best 22 available. And if Jack Bose isn't in that,
00:39:39
Speaker
He might be playing a bit of reserves football this year. So he's an interesting one. He looked pretty good from what I saw in the practice game. But the role is just so hard to predict with Geelong. They've got so many guys they can roll through the midfield. And I think a few of them are probably ahead of him. So I think maybe the spot for him is that high, high forward role, which is a pretty good role. I could see him maybe averaging 80, 85 in that role.
00:40:05
Speaker
If he gets a little bit of mid time, maybe more, but I don't know if that's going to be enough. And I think there's so many question marks there with him. We'd have to see something pretty special in this week's game and maybe a comment from a coach to back it up as well before we jump on round one.
00:40:22
Speaker
In terms of Will Day, I think he's a really interesting one. We know that Hawthorne are going to be rebuilding. We know that they've got this hole in the midfield at the moment, which will be taken by someone. We don't know who that is, but I think everything I've seen suggests he might be the 50%, 60% center-bounce guy at Hawthorne.
00:40:41
Speaker
He might be one of the guys that rolls through there. I mean, we know he can play. Is he really built for that inside mid-roll? I don't think so. I think he's more of an outside player. He's more of a sort of damaging player. So I don't think he's going to be absolutely racking up the posies, tackles, marks, but I can definitely see him going 80 to 90, which I think at his price is priced at around 60, 62 or something. So I think there's definitely scope to have him there.
00:41:08
Speaker
I can't see him being a top six defender, but I can definitely see him having, you know, 15, 20 points upside. So I'm definitely, I'm definitely watching him. He's not in my team at the moment, but he's one that could easily come in in the next couple of weeks because, um, you know, if, if, if it's clear that he's in that rotation, they're the guys we love, you know, they've got 50, 60% CBAs. We know they're going to be scoring 70, 80 points plus at his price in defense. That's a pretty good pick if, if he can get that role.
00:41:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's interesting you say that. I'm not on wheel day and even if he came out and had that role this week, I'm still not willing to go down that road. I think we need to kind of put a little bit of a critical thinking hat on this one. And what we know of the Hawks, they're seriously rebuilding side and one of the lowest fantasy scoring teams in the side as well. So you had John Ukem last year, admittedly in his second year, but he had all the opportunity in the world
00:41:59
Speaker
He's a tackler. He actually bobs up for a few marks as well. He gets a lot of possessions and even his ceiling in that side was an 88. So if you actually go and have a look at the Hawthorne midfield mix, yeah, they've lost Tom Mitchell and Jager O'Meara. But, you know, it's going to be quite tough, I think, for a Will Day to score consistently in that role. And I think in a rebuild year, I think there's going to be a lot of chopping and changing inside that midfield with
00:42:21
Speaker
rolls up and down each week. So I think we might struggle for a bit of consistency. So my personal opinion, I think he's going to be a little bit of a trap for those coaches that go there, but all of those points you did raise in terms of the, if he does get the 50 to 60% roll with what we've seen him score in the past, I think, yeah, there's scope there to push above 80, but I would be shocked if it's any more than that, which at his price is going to be a little bit awkward.
00:42:44
Speaker
all great points you raised there. Let's move on to the midfield because we did hear you say before that you're not sure about these midfield rookies coming in so I'm fascinated to hear how you think we should be structuring up in our midfield this year.
00:42:57
Speaker
Yeah, I think Midfield is every year, I think this is the case. We've got 10 positions to pick, but there are just so many options. So many guys with DPP, you can pretty much do whatever you want. So I think Midfield's really where the game's won and lost in fantasy, just because you've got the uber premiums all the way down to the rookies, everything in between. You've got, you know,
00:43:16
Speaker
Heaps of mid prices to choose from heaps of underpriced premiums to choose from and I think we see that in the ownership stats as well You know that in every other line. There's a few guys up at 40 50% ownership in the midfield It's just so much harder to pick these underpriced premiums and the and the mid prices who are going to really pop for you
00:43:35
Speaker
I think at the moment it's a really fluid line. I can easily see people running maybe five or six premiums in their midfield, top it up with rookies, or you might
00:43:47
Speaker
have a bit skinnier, maybe three or four premiums, and then a couple of mid prices, then a couple of rookies. I think this is really a line that you can decide on based on what you're doing with the other lines. So if you're skimping a bit in defence, load up in the midfield, that's great. You know, maybe if you want to dock it in defence, you're going to be a little bit lighter on the midfield.
00:44:07
Speaker
So yeah, I think this is a really fluid line and it's good because you can really do whatever you want with it. There's a lot of guys you can choose from up the top. A lot of these guys priced around 100, 105, 95, who could easily jump up into the 110 bracket. There's too many names almost to mention when you look at these guys who've done it before or you look at the young guys who maybe haven't done it before but have shown glimpses.
00:44:34
Speaker
It's just a huge number of guys and some of them will do that and some of them won't. It's going to be really interesting to see who does that and it's going to be tough. It's going to be a bit of a lottery I think, but back your call in because there's going to be a couple that make that jump.
00:44:51
Speaker
And don't be afraid to pick the guy that you've seen play or maybe you've heard some good reports out of training because there's a lot of value there to be had and there will be guys who go up 15, 20 points and become keepers. And then yeah, I think mid prices, there's clearly lots of names that have been thrown around. So you've got plenty of options there. And as I said before, I think rookies, this line at the moment, I'll probably have at least one rookie with a forward or defender status.
00:45:20
Speaker
possibly two but I don't like the look of two so I think rookies you've got a bit of a bit of flexibility there to just get the guys you want on field
00:45:31
Speaker
and make sure that they're on field. And if they're on field in your midfield, instead of your forward line, it doesn't make too much difference in the end. As long as they're scoring well to start the year, don't be afraid to have, you know, a Philippa or a Shiesel or someone in your, in your midfield, that's not going to be an issue. Actually, Shiesel's just forward, but anyway, one midfield forward rookie, you know, having them in your midfield is going to be fine.
00:45:53
Speaker
Yeah, those are some very good points you make. It's interesting, right? So in years gone by, so like 2021, 2020, which is a bit of an aberration, but even going back. So the game used to be a much more fantasy friendly game and we used to have, you know, 8, 10 midfielders average, 110 plus, even a lot more over that sort of 112 mark. But if you look at last year, we had Zach Merritt as the eighth defender who averaged, I think 107.8 from memory. So I don't think
00:46:20
Speaker
the bars as high these days. I think if you can get your stepping stone slash the underpriced guy from that 80s, 90s bracket to get up to that 105 mark, I think that's going to get it done these days. It's going to be close enough to the top eight with the way the game's changing. So that's something to keep in mind. I still am a little bit worried, so I'm seeing a lot of teams out there running multiple of your LDUs, your Greens, your Sorongs, your Warners, your Newcombs.
00:46:45
Speaker
And I still think there's room in the game to be a little bit more guns and rookies in terms of not going up straight to your lads, steals, mills, those guys. But, you know, looking for the guys around that sort of 100 range that can get up to 105 plus. Think you're Bontempellies, Petrarchas, Josh Kelly's, Darcy Parish, those type of guys. I think that's where we kind of need to be looking. I don't think we need to go too far away and try to nail all of these breakouts because, you know,
00:47:10
Speaker
say you've got an LDU, say you've got a green, say you've got even a sarong, you throw in a daycosa, Hayden Young. If you're starting all of these guys and you're banking on all of them breaking out to be keepers, history shows that they're not all going to do it. And if you have too many of these guys and you're stuck in no man's land, as we spoke about before, you're not going to get the points and you're not going to get the cash generation either. So that's the way I'm kind of seeing it at the moment. I think
00:47:33
Speaker
your points very interesting in terms of the mid rookies. We might not get them, but I still think I'm going to try and get three on field and then maybe look for a Dom Sheed type at M5 and then have four guys that I'm confident in being keepers, not necessarily the highest price players, but guys that can go 105 plus and be close enough. Would you agree with that? Yeah, I definitely, I love the idea of picking
00:47:57
Speaker
picking guys priced around that 100 price range. I think there's a few there that are great choices. You mentioned a lot of them, the dogs, midfielders, and blokes like that that have done it before. We know that they can go at 105 plus for an extended period of time. They give you great captain options because when they have a good matchup, we can give them the VC or the C. They might be able to pump you out of 130, 140.
00:48:19
Speaker
having more captain options is always great and the midfielders generally where you get these guys you know they're going to have good matchups and we're going to lock them in for a big score so yeah i think i completely agree you know the top the top eight midfielders you know say that there are eight that go 110
00:48:35
Speaker
there'll be another 10 that go between 105 and 110. So I don't think you're losing too much by having a guy who increases their value and maybe goes to 106 or 107, even 105 for the year. That's fine. You might be losing five points a game on the eighth best player in the line, but you'd be gaining that elsewhere with the money you've made. So definitely you don't necessarily need to pick the top eight midfielders straight away, I think.
00:49:02
Speaker
And even for the whole year, you know, if you finish the year and you don't have the, you know, top eight players by average in your midfield, I think you could still easily win a hat and you could probably still win the car as well. So, um, you know, it's great, particularly in the other lines. I think we need to be careful. It's a bit skinny, you know, it's a bit skinny in the forward line and defense with those top players, but in the midfield, there's just so many great midfielders guys go on runs. Um, they have cold patches.
00:49:26
Speaker
It's not such a big issue to pick guys that are definitely top eight, top 10 midfielders. You're better off picking blokes with a bit of value, five, 10 points of upside that are going to be close enough to keep for the year. Yeah.
00:49:40
Speaker
absolutely could not agree
Ruck and Forward Line Dilemmas
00:49:42
Speaker
more. All right, let's move on to the rucks, the position that with defence has, this position has probably given me more stress and anxiety and chopped and change more than, more than defence. So we won't spend too much time talking about Royal Marshall because I'm pretty sure we're going to be in agreeance that he's the, the number one ruck that we are just putting into our teams at the moment with everything we've seen. But at this point in time, I know it's chopped and changed a lot. How are you saying this R2 position?
00:50:10
Speaker
It's horrible, isn't it? I think we're in a really unique position here where, you know, previous years you've always had the set and forget strategy. You've had, you know, two clear guys who we know are gonna be
00:50:22
Speaker
or we all think are gonna be pretty much top of the line. And if you run out of ideas, you just lock them in. We sort of had that earlier on with Tim English and we still might. I think that's still a play to lock him in. I think when he plays, he's gonna be 100 plus. There are question marks about his durability, which I think are fair enough. That's gonna be really interesting to see if he can get a good two, three week block in now. There'll be a lot of people who probably go back to that set and forget with Ron Marshall and Tim English.
00:50:52
Speaker
But yeah, then after that, it's really tough. There's a lot of guys that I could probably see averaging around 90, but that's probably not what you want if there's not a lot of value there. And then there's a lot of mid prices, or a few mid prices, I should say, with a bit of value. Is it enough to sort of lock them in?
00:51:11
Speaker
I'm not really convinced at the moment, so it's really interesting. There's a lot of question marks around Darcy Cameron. Scott Lycett's a name that I've heard a lot that I don't mind, but I don't think it's going to be a car winning pick or anything. There's not that many cheaper options. I haven't really seen too many guys priced 300, 400K, 500K that are going to be great picks. I haven't really
00:51:35
Speaker
haven't really seen too many names float up and that scares me because if you go with one of those guys and they fail
00:51:41
Speaker
Where are you going to go? That's my big concern. At this point, I'd rather err on the side of more expensive in my R2 because there is just, I can't see anything coming from below. If you go a Scott Lyset and he gets injured or gets dropped or whatever it is, where do you go with him? Unless you can find two, 300K, where do you go? That just really scares me.
00:52:06
Speaker
we know he's had some injury injuries in the past he's had a bad shoulder you know had a shoulder reco end of last year so
00:52:14
Speaker
stuff like that is really scary. And then also you've got the rookie rucks, which are a bit of a nightmare at the moment. There might be a few guys that step up, but I'm not convinced they're going to be great scorers. So, you know, previous years we had a Jack Hayes, we've had other guys, you know, proofs who've come through. We still might get those, you know, ruck line is, is really thin. And when teams lose a ruckman, generally there's another guy steps up.
00:52:37
Speaker
maybe a bit of value who takes the role. So, you know, for instance, if wits got injured, you've got Ned Moyle who might just come in and absolutely kill it in the ruck. So it's going to be really, really tough to see where teams go in the ruck, ruck two this year and ruck three, I guess.
00:52:55
Speaker
And at this point, I'm keeping R2 completely open, basically. It could be any one of probably four or five guys that I'm considering. And to be honest, this is probably one that'll change 10 minutes before a ball's bounced on the first round of the year. Because I think there's just so many, so many things up in the air, so many question marks about if guys are fit or not. And it also maybe depends a bit on what you're doing with the rest of your team. Are you going to have cash available if you need it?
00:53:24
Speaker
Oh, you know, you're going to have another ruck forward option to cover on the bench, maybe in your forward line on utility. You know, if you've got the two rookie rucks, then maybe you can afford to go a bit riskier with the R2. It's an absolute cluster at the moment. So hopefully we get a bit of clarity in the next few weeks. I'm not convinced we will.
00:53:44
Speaker
Yeah, now I know I said that I wouldn't get you to reveal your team, but this is such a crucial position. So I'm going to put you on the spot here. You give me your current R2 right now, give me your sort of justification as to why you're thinking it, and then I'll reveal mine and then we'll have a bit of a chat. So who's your R2 currently as we speak right now? Yeah, so currently I've got Darcy Cameron in there. He's probably been in there the most throughout the pre-season.
00:54:11
Speaker
a little bit of an injury scare a couple of weeks back, which has got me a bit nervous, but I still think that Mason Cox isn't a great ruckman. I watched a bit of that game on the weekend and I don't think Mason Cox was effective at all in the ruck. My only concern is that Darcy Cameron was quite effective up forward. He played that high center half forward role. They went to him a lot and I'm concerned that they almost tank the ruck position so that they have that center half forward who
00:54:36
Speaker
who provides them the target that they need. Because Basin Cocks isn't really that guy, I think. It feels a bit wrong at the moment that teams would do that. I think Ruck's such an important position, but we know Darcy Cameron's not your typical Ruckman anyway.
00:54:53
Speaker
At the moment he's sitting there, I can see him having 10, 15, maybe 20 points upside if Mason Cox isn't in the team. And I think worst case scenario, he'll do what he did last year. But yeah, I'd much prefer Mason Cox to not be in the team. If Mason Cox isn't named round one, I think Darcy Cameron's gonna be a great pick and I'm gonna feel a lot better about it. But with that Mason Cox question mark hanging around, it's always gonna be a bit tricky to know what Darcy Cameron does.
00:55:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's interesting, right? So great minds think alike. So this workshop's not going to work too well, but I also have Darcy Cameron. So I'm along the same lines as you. And I think Mason Cox was potentially the main ruckman on the weekend just because they're managing Darcy's loads a bit. And I think he needs to build it up.
00:55:41
Speaker
after that hamstring injury and I kind of just look at that Collingwood side. They've got Dan McStay now, they've got Maya Chek, they've got Frampton who's quite big. There's a lot of tools and with the way they like to play, I just, in my head, it kind of seems like they're one tool too many for that, you know, real run and gun style that they like to play so
00:56:00
Speaker
It wouldn't surprise me if Cox isn't there, round one, and, you know, you just get a bit of a chop out from a McStay or a Frampton. I think, you know, when you've got my check, when you've got Frampton, not Frampton, sorry, when you've got McStay in that forward line, able for one of them to play that high half forward role, I think you don't necessarily need a Darcy Cameron to play that role.
00:56:38
Speaker
With Cox in the side, I think you would hope that you can bank that with a little bit more potential upside if Cox is out or Cameron's fitness gets to a point where maybe he can do 60-70% rather than the 50-60% he was doing last year. But the thing that's getting it over the line for me at the moment is that forward status.
00:56:41
Speaker
I have been wrong in
00:56:57
Speaker
being able to swing him forward at the point that you want to get your R2 is so valuable. If you've got a Scott Lysette who's putting up 80s or you've got a Jared Wits who's just doing his 90 to 95 or a Rob or someone in that price range who are just doing what they're doing, I find it very hard for you to waste a trade to go from that up to a Tim English or whoever's the R1 when you've still got rookies on the field. So I think being able to get a rookie off the field by swinging Cameron forward while still getting that upgrade for the Ruck, I think is going to be very valuable. Do you agree?
00:57:28
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. I think that's a great point. In the rock line, say Tim English gets injured in round one on a five or something. He'll come down at value. He'll peak at round four, five, six.
00:57:42
Speaker
as in peak is a value option and you want to bring them in, but if you've got two high price ruckmen in your side, you're not going to be able to do a sideways trade or if you do, you're sort of wasting a trade. So it is great to have that flexibility to bring in slide Cameron forward for a couple of weeks and then upgrade him around buy time or whatever it is.
00:58:02
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's useful. There might even be a rookie ruck. There might be a Nen Moyle or someone who gets a few games as the sole ruck for their team. We can jump on, maybe this Sydney Ruckman, McAndrew, maybe he comes out and brains it and you want to field a rookie ruck for a few rounds. You just slide Cameron forward and you can bring the rookie ruck in for a couple of weeks and then you've got Cameron as cover if you need it. There's definitely merit in having
00:58:30
Speaker
camera there for the rut forward status. I don't think there's too many other guys in the rut line, maybe a Sava Radagali or someone that you could
00:58:38
Speaker
think about for that reason. It definitely just gives you the extra flexibility and that it's something that you don't, you might not need, but it might also get to round four or five and you might look at your team and realize that that's actually really helpful. It gives you a few more opportunities of who to bring in and making sure you're bringing in under priced premiums. Cause that's essentially, that's the name of the game. You know, we, we talk about the value being in the rookies, but also a great way to make money is to bring in guys who are 50, a hundred K under price.
00:59:08
Speaker
and then ride them up when they start to pump out the big scores. So yeah, that's a pretty good call, mate.
00:59:15
Speaker
and flexibility is not something I've traditionally gone with in my rock line being the big set and forget man I am so it's definitely an element of the game that I'm trying to look into a little bit more so yeah that's how I'm seeing it at the moment but let me if it comes out this week that Cox is still the number one rock and Darcy Cameron is forward then I'll definitely have to readjust or have a look at it so it's definitely by no means locked in all right let's
00:59:38
Speaker
quickly run through the forwards and then we'll do about 10 minutes of questions because we've already gone close to an hour and I'm well aware that it's quite late where you are. How are you seeing the forward lines at the moment?
00:59:48
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think the talking point of the forward line is these underpriced premiums that we have this year. So, you know, if you haven't considered Dunkley, Taranto, Rosie and Caniglio, then, you know, take a good look at them and just make sure you understand why you would or wouldn't pick them. They're the big four names I'm hearing, but there's also a few others, you know, Golden,
01:00:12
Speaker
Dylan Moore There's a heap of value in that sort of unpriced premium bracket in the forward line, which is really cool And I think that they're the kind of picks that you really love to see as a fantasy coach guys You can increase their average by you know, 10 15 points maybe and become keepers You know, that's that's gold. So they're the guys we want to start with
01:00:34
Speaker
At the moment, I'll definitely have three of them in my side and hopefully four, but depends a bit on what else happens with the rest of the mid prices and rookies. I think there's also a lot of other value in the forward line. There's a few mid prices.
01:00:49
Speaker
that have popped up with pretty good roles that they should be looking good. And there's a few rookies as well who've proven that they can score, which I think is important and a few guys with pretty good job security as well. So I think the forward line is
01:01:06
Speaker
I wouldn't say easy to pick but I think we've got a lot of options there so you can be a bit flexible there. Definitely I'm looking at putting a forward in my midfield just so I can have an extra one in there. It does just give you that flexibility that you can restructure pretty easily if you need to in the first couple of rounds if there's a rookie that pops up.
01:01:26
Speaker
if there's an underpriced premium that you want to jump on or a mid price you want to jump on. It just gives you another option of not having to trade a forward or a midfielder. You might be able to swing some DPP and trade who you want to trade for the person you need to bring in. So yeah, I think forward line is probably a good problem to have for us at the moment. I don't know about you, but I find it's probably the easiest line to pick for me right now.
01:01:49
Speaker
Yeah mate, I agree with that 100%. I think the biggest question out of the forward line is whether you start three or four of these gun premiums. They all seem to have, well at this stage in the pre-season, upside from what they did in the back half of last year. Whether it's being under priced because they didn't have the role to start the year and then went bang towards the end or if it's just a Dunkley who's moved clubs for more opportunity. I think there's justification to start all of them.
01:02:14
Speaker
I suppose the biggest question coaches need to work through is, do they start three? Do they start four? Are they willing to not start one to have a bit of cash elsewhere in defence or midfield, whatever it is. So I think we don't need to spend too much time on the forwards. It's interesting to hear that you are considering to start one of them in the midfield. I think that's a good play as well. People have said that they don't like starting the forward.
01:02:38
Speaker
forward players in the midfield because you know you're giving up points to the midfield but you know I've used the example of a Conor Rose if you feel he's the the best player in that 80s range who's going to be a keeper and go close to 100 then why not start him in the midfield over you know maybe a Tom Green or a you know a Cherra or a Sarong who might not get as close to the top eight mids and then swing him forward and get the midfielder that you want so yep
01:03:02
Speaker
Absolutely perfect. Let's move on. We'll do some quick questions and then we'll wrap up. So there's a lot of questions here, guys. I feel like we've answered a lot of them throughout our conversations, but we will do a few specific ones here. Just quickly, M4 is an interesting position. So who do you like more out of green, berry, or is even thrown in golden, which would be one of those forwards that he's trying to stash in the midfield.
01:03:25
Speaker
Yeah, I think at the moment I like green, but Barry looks really, really good in the practice game, like really good. I haven't seen much of him last year, but he looked great on the weekend. So he's definitely one to keep an eye on. Gordon has the flexibility of being a forward. So if Gordon's getting midfield time, he's shown that he's a fantasy scorer and he could be a keeper in the forward line. That does excite me if he gets a midfield time. But I think out of those three at the moment, I prefer green.
01:03:56
Speaker
Yep. Couldn't agree more. The interesting thing about Golden is I think once again, coaches just need to put a little bit of a critical thinking hat on what happened on the weekend. So we saw last year, Isaac Heaney get a lot of midfield time in the preseason and then round one rolls around and it's back to the norm. He's getting that sort of 10%, 15% midfield role.
01:04:18
Speaker
I think Goulden will get more than that, but I just feel Mills isn't going to get 30% in the real thing. Warner's not going to get 40%. Parker's going to be back in there. Rowbottom's in there. If their game plan in the season is for Goulden to be that fifth midfielder who gets that 40% CBAs, why not give him that 70% run in the preseason to wrap his head around what he needs to do?
01:04:41
Speaker
and to get the fitness up to play that role because there's no point him, there's no point Mills getting in there 70%. They know what they're going to get from him. They know what they're going to get from Parker. This is the time that they kind of experiment. So I'd be very shocked if Gordon has, you know, more than sort of 50% CBAs with the quality that they have in there. So.
01:04:58
Speaker
It is definitely a watch this week to see how that lines up, but don't be surprised if round one rolls around and he's back to his traditional high half forward wing roll, which is actually very damaging. So what are the telltale signs that you see for a successful roll change versus a one week wonder? Yeah, that's a good question.
01:05:23
Speaker
Yeah, I think obviously the best thing to do is actually see, we get sucked in sometimes, guys play off half back for a week and they have a really good fantasy week with a good fantasy score, but also you have to look at how do they actually play? I love to sometimes look at Super Coach scores just so you get a bit of an eye of where they're effective, where they're disposals, how do they rank in terms of being on field, but the best thing to do is to watch them play. Did they do the right thing?
01:05:51
Speaker
Or were they just sliding around, getting some cheat ball, which doesn't really help the team. So it's really hard. I mean, that's basically, you know, if you can do that successfully, you'll probably win a car. So look at who's in the team and who else could be doing the role. Most of these guys are, you know, the halfback role is a great example. They're probably competing with one or two guys for that role.
01:06:14
Speaker
look at the reasons why the other guys aren't in there. So, you know, a good example this year, I think, is Isaac coming. I've really called on him because Locky Whitfield's apparently coming in. Locky Ash is playing that halfback role. Those three guys, all great users of the ball. I can't see one of them really dominating. I think all three will share it around a bit.
01:06:34
Speaker
maybe more Whitfield and Cumming, less Ash, but it scares me that three guys could play that role. Whereas if you look at another team, you know, like Sydney, if Blakely's injured, Jake Lloyd is probably that half-back distributor, he can have a really great start to the year with Blakely out. So look at the guys who are doing the role normally and who their competition is, and then see if you, you know, if they're actually playing the role well, well guess what, the role's probably theirs.
01:07:00
Speaker
Yeah, and that's actually a fantastic point you make surrounding Isaac coming. And I think that's a lesson and something we can think about with a Hayden Young as well. So Hayden Young albeit a very quality player and someone they love the ball in his hands. But when you've got Jordan Clark, when you've got Luke Ryan, when you've also got Heath Chapman, all quality kids and quality ball users as well, it kind of can put a cap on their ceiling and maybe
01:07:26
Speaker
have them not being top eight defenders. You look at the top eight defenders in the past, you mentioned a Jake Lloyd when he was just the only distributor back there. Jordan Dawson last year, who just everything went through him. Sicily, everything went through him. Docherty, although he had Saad alongside him, he wasn't a massive fantasy scorer, so he was able to get a lot of ball as well.
01:07:49
Speaker
That's a very good point is not just looking at what the player scored or what you think they can score, but being able to have a look at who else is in the team and who might potentially be able to take points away from them as well. So that is fantastic for you to mention. Are you someone that can start with say a 280K player on your bench? Yep, I've definitely looked at that at the moment. I've got maybe one or two.
01:08:11
Speaker
on my bench, I think. Yeah, maybe, I might even have two on the bench at the moment. So I think definitely you can, you know, it's a long season, you know, this year we've got the extra round as well, and making sure you get cash down on the bench is gonna be super important because, you know, the first five or six weeks, sure, you might be regretting having that cash on the bench, but as soon as you downgrade that guy, if they were a good pick, you know, if they say they started at 280K, if they averaged 20 or 30 points more, they're gonna go up
01:08:39
Speaker
What's that, 200K? And then you're gonna, all of a sudden you're gonna have 300K when you go down to a basement rookie, you know, from rounds five or six onwards, you are gonna be loving life. You're gonna have heaps of cash to play with when you downgrade them. You're gonna be able to do a big mid-foot upgrade, and then you're gonna catch up points for 15, 16, 17 weeks. So definitely, you know, pick your starting rooks first, and then just look at the guys who are gonna make more cash.
Rookie Selection and Cash Generation
01:09:05
Speaker
You know, if it's similar, I'd definitely err on the side of getting the cheaper player.
01:09:08
Speaker
if they've got the same scoring potential in job security. But just look at how many more points they're gonna score. I think there'll be a few this year that might be worthwhile having on your bench.
01:09:22
Speaker
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Although the aim of the game is to score points, the number one important thing in your starting squad is being able to nail the right rookies. So if the right rookies means that you need to fit one or two of these guys that are a little bit more inflated on the bench just to make sure you get the right cash gen, that is absolutely something that you need to do because there's no point just putting a 200K basement on your bench so you've got more points to play with on field if they're just going to be dropped round one or round two, sorry, or they're not going to score. So absolutely, it's something that I
01:09:52
Speaker
I'm not afraid to do. I know that Selby, when he went really well in 2020, started Hayden Young on the bench, who was 270k at the time, which was, you know, a little bit more than what 270k is worth now as well. So definitely something that successful coaches have done. Will you look at picking Tristan Cherry if Goldie isn't named, or would you even look to pick him if he's the number one rock, but Goldie still might be playing that chop out role?
01:10:19
Speaker
Yeah, he's a really interesting one. The problem with if Goldie isn't named, that means he isn't named round one. I can see them playing around with their rucks a little bit. The real question for me is who is their R2 then? Who's North Melbourne's R2 when Cherry isn't in the ruck? Who is in there and how do they play? So if Conburn turns out to be a really great chopout ruckman, then I think that's going to force Goldstein out of the side.
01:10:45
Speaker
And I think Cherry becomes a pretty good pick, you know, there could definitely be some upside there. But if Conburn's struggling, then it'll make sense to drop him, have Goldstein run the two pronged attack, which is just going to really, really not be great for Cherry. So he's definitely one that I'm looking at. You just got to, you got to look bigger than round one. You know, we don't want to be trading these ruckmen after, after one or two rounds, just because like a proven guy like Goldstein comes back into the team.
01:11:12
Speaker
You've got to be pretty confident that the guy who's taken Goldstein's place is going to keep playing. And I think at the moment, I'm not really clear on how that looks. We'll see from the practice match how, you know, common plays or whoever else is chopping out Cherry in the Ruck. Yeah, mate. Fantastic. I'm with you there.
01:11:30
Speaker
Is it okay in your mind?
Premium Player Selection and Breakout Candidates
01:11:32
Speaker
We know we speak about value, value, value, but do you think it's okay to start an Uber premium in your midfield? So I think an Oliver, a Merritt, I'll throw in a Brayshore, a Steele, who don't have a lot of upside, maybe not any, but are a solid captain option.
01:11:49
Speaker
I think it's a play. I did this last year and I sort of regret it. I started steel last year. He was okay but a lot of guys were performing better than him and they were a lot cheaper so it sort of caught me out a bit last year. I've actually played around with having Rory later in my team this year. I like the idea that I could lock up a
01:12:11
Speaker
120, 115 averages captain, particularly for those early rounds and just bank the points. And I think there may even be some upside in him. So yeah, I think you've got to look at captain options and think, how am I going to get through four or five rounds of captains and having one or two guys like that.
01:12:30
Speaker
isn't, isn't, yeah, it's, I don't think, I think there's a lot of value in the midfielders. We talked about all those guys price around a hundred. Some of them are going to, are going to bump up their average to 110. So I don't necessarily think you need to start with those guys, but anyone who's going 110 plus, you know, 115, 120, if you think lead can, if you think a bracial can or an Oliver can or whoever these guys, if you think they can go that extra five, 10 points, then that becomes a decent amount of value, I think.
01:12:57
Speaker
yep summed it up perfectly okay a few more and do you think calahan and callee are good options for breakouts issue i think calahan's a really interesting one there's definitely uh... a lot of talk uh... that he'll he'll be in the middle rotations at gw s and i think he's a bit of a proven scorer i don't think he's gonna have quite a good enough year to make it worthwhile but uh... he's definitely want to consider fee if he brings it this week you could definitely look at him callee i think
01:13:27
Speaker
A bit of a tougher pick. I think there's a few mouths to feed in that West Coast midfield. You know, we've talked about Dom Sheed, we've talked about Elliot Yeoh. They've got a few other guys that are all through there. I'm not sure he's in that top three midfield rotation. I think he might be the bench mid. He might play a bit in the half wood flank. He might even play on the wing. So I love him as a player and I think he'll be good at some point. I think maybe that's six months, 12 months too early on Cully.
01:13:55
Speaker
Yeah, agree with your points on Callahan. I don't think he's going to have the role that's going to be enough to get in that sort of 80, 85 price scoring potential that we need from a mid price or in the midfield. And Cully, I just, I could not be colder on Cully. I don't understand the hype.
01:14:12
Speaker
He's going to be M5 if he's in the midfield at all. Now that Yeo's back, Sheed's back, Kelly's back firing, even Gaff was through the midfield. That M5 role in a struggling side, we forget that the Eagles won two games last year. Although we're tipping them to bounce back a little bit with those seasoned veterans coming back to form, they're still going to potentially be a bottom four side.
01:14:35
Speaker
to think someone's going to go 80, 85 in his, you know, he's played four games. He's going to be playing for a really bad footy side this year. And I really don't understand the hype on Cully. So he's someone I'm not even even considering or even looking at. So one to, you know, something to think about there. Let's continue on. What do you think? We'll finish on this
Adjusting to New Rules and Trading Tactics
01:14:56
Speaker
one. What do you think your thoughts are on how best to limit being burnt by the new sub rule?
01:15:01
Speaker
Yeah, it's so hard to predict. I think the sub rule is the easiest way to avoid it is to pick guys who are so important to their teams that they won't be subbed out. So if you're picking a fringe player who's maybe the seventh defender picked for their side or the
01:15:21
Speaker
maybe he's the fifth midfielder who comes off the bench or whatever it is, a small forward who maybe is expendable, even a key forward who, you know, maybe they want to run smaller. Just be really careful about picking those fringe players because they're probably the guys who will get subbed off now that they can. And the other one is the teams who have two ruckmen, I'd be very concerned that a lot of the time it's going to be one of the two ruckmen who gets subbed out. So that's one of my flags around Darcy Cameron. If he plays with Mason Cox,
01:15:49
Speaker
And three-quarter time, they don't have any injuries. They might just pick one of them and sub one of them out. I think most of the time it'll be Mason Cox, but if Cameron got a knock on his leg or his shoulder or whatever it is, he could easily be the guy subbed out.
01:16:05
Speaker
That's the big one. You know, teams with two ruckmen, I would be a bit concerned. The other one, you know, say Sean Darcy even, if he's, if he gets a little bit of a knock and Luke Jackson's fresh, ready to go, we know how good Luke Jackson is in the ruck. You know, I could see one or two games where maybe they give Sean Darcy a quarter off and they bring Luke Jackson into the, into the midfield for the last, last quarter, let him ruck solo for one quarter. That scares, it probably scares a lot of people who were considering Darcy, but
01:16:33
Speaker
I think from a footy point of view, that would make sense. You know, if you're five, four, five goals behind as Frio and you've got the two big men on the ground who aren't being that effective, why not bring Jackson to the midfield?
01:16:44
Speaker
Yeah mate, that's actually a fantastic point surrounding Darcy, not something I'd actually thought about. I don't think they'd ever sub him off tactically in terms of him not playing well, but you're right, if he does get a knock, which we know he does, he has these sort of in-game injuries that he is notorious for, that could definitely be something that happens.
01:17:03
Speaker
Yeah it's you never really you know if you're picking a player injuries are part of it so it's something you do have to think about but yeah you are right that two ruck system with the sub is definitely something to monitor. Let's just finish off with this one because this is quite an intriguing question and I'd like to hear your thoughts before mine. So how do you know when to get in or trade a popular pick one week early as expert coaches have stated in the past that
01:17:27
Speaker
it's pivotal to get on them early to be that sort of extra trade ahead of the comp. Is it more gut feel? Is it stats based? Other factors? How do you sort of go about that? Yeah, this is a great question. I think a lot of the time you can be one week early and it pays off and the other time you could be one week early and maybe there's a reason no one else jumped on and you look a bit stupid. But I think
01:17:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's a great question. I think you've got to look at, the best way to do it is just watch the game they played. Normally this is when guys come in, they've played one or two games, there's a clear role change, or maybe they were under priced coming in and thinking like an hour and a haul a few years ago, or like Darcy Cameron last year. You've got to look at that role and you've got to look at, is that role going to change? Darcy Cameron last year was clear, number one ruck when Brody Grundy went down, Mason Cox wasn't around.
01:18:22
Speaker
That's one that you can jump on early. If it's someone else who's in, say, a half-back role or something, that can change week to week. I think it's really easy to look at Ruckman. That's a pretty clear one. There's only a few guys on each list that can actually play Ruck. When you're looking at, say, a high half forward or a midfield, there's lots of names that get floated around there.
01:18:44
Speaker
Yeah, just be confident in the role. If you think they're gonna maintain that role for four, five weeks plus, then it's probably worthwhile jumping in a week early. Because sometimes if you leave it a week or two late, you've probably missed the boat. So Luke Jackson last year when he was solo ruck for a few weeks, if you didn't jump in straight away, you probably couldn't jump in.
01:19:07
Speaker
Yeah and I suppose as well it's it is a little bit of gut feel and stats base but I'll use an example last year so Matty Motrum's famous trade of getting in Callum Mills where no one was really looking at him so Callum Mills the year before was a top
01:19:23
Speaker
top two or even a top one defender because he was playing full-time midfield and we know that towards the end of the year he started to get that Achilles injury which forced him out and that means that he missed the end of the season and his preseason was limited so then he starts the year slowly but you know looking at the stats we know that he's a top eight midfielder in the role we just know that he needed to get his fitness back. Matty Motrum sees that he has a bit of a slow start but he's coming up against Hawthorne who are an easy side to
01:19:51
Speaker
easy side to score against. He jumps before everyone else is willing to. He gets that absolute boost and away you go. So the thing I like to really think about is that the early rounds are quite interesting. We see a lot of outlier scores. We see a lot of premiums maybe perform under what they
01:20:06
Speaker
will you know particularly do for the rest of the year but we know that their premiums for a reason and eventually more than likely that the scoring will will get back to the norm and and they'll be the premiums that we know they are so don't be afraid to to pick a player that might not be performing as well as you think they are but knowing that they can get back to what they've done before does that make sense
01:20:27
Speaker
Yeah, definitely, definitely. I think that's, yeah, I mean, that's early on in the season, you know, that first couple of upgrades, you've really gotta be looking ahead. What are the schedules for these guys that you're bringing in? And are you gonna get the big scores? Have you got the juicy matchup? You know, if you don't have a juicy matchup, you can maybe wait a week, have a look. Worst case scenario, you know, they might go up 10, 20K, whatever it is. You can live with that. But, you know, a great example there, you know, a guy who's back in the midfield, who's back fit, and then has a juicy matchup on top of that,
01:20:57
Speaker
you can jump on that, you can bank in a pretty great score, maybe as a captain option as well and just bank the points because eventually the dollars don't really matter, it's the points that matter. So if you can see a big score coming.
01:21:11
Speaker
jump on. And once you've seen a big score happen, you know, you've missed that score. Don't, don't go chasing those big scores. Um, just because Callum Mills had 151 week, doesn't mean he's going to back it up the next week. You know, you've got to look at match ups. You got to look at is the role going to stay there. Maybe he's a bit sore from getting so many kicks. So, um, yeah, they're, they're great ones. They're great ones, particularly with your captain options that I'll definitely look at that throughout the year. And if there's a guy that you've been looking at bringing in, they get a good matchup there, you know, up the top of Calvin's captains or whatever you use for your captains.
01:21:41
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Have a look and see if you can get them in that week early so you can get that big score Yeah, perfect mate, thank you so much for this chat, it's been absolutely awesome I know I've learned a lot just talking to talking to you here So I can't wait to actually go back and listen to it to really really get a lot out of it Can you just tell the listeners where they can
Closing Remarks and Social Media Engagement
01:22:01
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find you on Twitter? Because I know you give out a lot of good information on Twitter and and you're a good follow So where can they find you?
01:22:07
Speaker
Yeah. So, uh, definitely check me a fellow on Twitter. I'll start posting again. Once the season starts my weekly trades and how my team's looking and, um, happy to answer any questions people fire through to me. Um, I think it's lemon underscore DT. You can find me at Twitter or maybe it's DT underscore lemon. It's one of those options. Um, I always get confused. So yeah, uh, happy to chat anytime. I try and get to as many questions as I can throughout the week. So send them through.
01:22:34
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Yep, awesome mate. Part of the reason that the fantasy community is so strong are people like you that are happy to give out their knowledge and their experience so that other coaches can learn from what you've done to be successful so that we can kind of raise everyone up. So thank you so much and good luck for the season ahead. Thanks mate, you too. Can't wait for it.