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Season 5- Episode 41- Short & Sweet (Super Rugby QF)
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Keeping it brief since this is late (apologies). On this ep you'll catch us talking about the Quarter-Finals in Super Rugby and the Free Jacks big win out in Seattle. We hope you enjoy, even though we are tardy to the party.
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Transcript
Introduction & Frustrations
00:00:02
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It is. The Fantasy Robias. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion. Collusion.
Rugby Quarterfinals & Good Luck Wishes
00:00:27
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the fancy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. We're in. We got very little but very important things to talk about. Yeah. Quarterfinals and all.
00:00:40
Speaker
Uh, yeah, yeah. I mean, some, some teams are in the finals. Um, but, and that, that's not the way we're going to be talking about. That's, that's just Jared's team to be coaches and help us start. Yeah. Yeah. Different story. Good luck to Jared's, uh, you know, the, the Brooklyn girls and the, in the state finals on Saturday. Yeah. That's going to be cool. I'm glad they get to experience that.
00:01:08
Speaker
Cause that's an experience. No matter the result, obviously I hope, I hope they come out on the right side of it, but there's no one of them you enjoy forever. The other, it takes like 20 years and then, yeah, yeah. Unfortunately it does take a little bit longer to look back and gay. Okay. It wasn't that bad. Even though we ended up on the wrong side, it's getting to that point can be really special. You just got to realize it later on in life when you get a little more mature. That's all anyway, beverage time.
00:01:39
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Oh yes. Yeah, we're getting to the point where we've done all the coaching we can. Yeah, exactly. It's their turn. It's just time to let them play.
Podcast Promotion & 200th Episode
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Find us on your favorite podcast app. Share, download, rate, review. Feedback's always welcome.
00:02:01
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especially, sorry, too close, too soon, sorry. I was going to talk about a 200 episode, but that's not, that's not, that's not there yet. Not there yet.
Support for George
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Getting there. Of course, we want to make sure that our good friend George is taken care of over the summer and he has plenty of pocket change to have a few summer bevs with. So make sure that you are buying him a coffee or beer, however you wish to see it on his buy me a coffee site.
00:02:30
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sure he's taken care of.
Discrimination in Sports
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As always on this podcast, there is no discrimination here, nor should there be in sports or in life. And a similar issue that actually hit home about a month ago that you and I were talking about with one of the Brookline athletes in the winter sports has popped up again, which is
00:02:53
Speaker
And in this way, it's just even worse in a lot of ways. Canada, of all places, too. That's the weird thing. I thought they're supposed to like everyone. When I saw this, it was like on Twitter or something like that. And there were Canadians in their thing. Like, guys realize this happened in Canada. It's not always about the U.S. No. And people are replying like, wait.
00:03:12
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you're saying that people in the U.S. wanted to believe it was an American thing and you're trying to correct them, letting them know it was in Canada, like how silly are, and they were like, oh yeah, that was stupid, like, poor. Not to make light of it, because it's this, it was in this, I think small town somewhere, you know, in kind of the Letterkenny area, I'd say. This couple comes to a children's track meet.
00:03:41
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and starts going off about that girl's transgender. Look at her hair. She thinks she's a boy, blah, blah, blah. She's clearly a boy. She's got it. And calling their parents groomers. They didn't have a kid at the event. But they came just to start shit like that. And this is the problem I've had. So I'm on the CRA board for women's
00:04:07
Speaker
division for two and three rugby, um, in the collegiate level. And then we're talking about that at one point, like, you know, Oh, what do we do about transgender thing? And, and, you know, a bunch of us were like, let them play. Once they, once they go through the fault, once they're, they're, they're fully good, then let them play. Um,
00:04:32
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And, you know, the people, of course, the people are like, well, you know, I do kind of find that that idea compelling about that, you know, they're going to be naturally strong. The problem is, and they're like, oh, maybe they have a point there. And it's like, they don't have a point. There's always going to be people genetically stronger. Like, look, you and I played with and against Tony.
00:04:55
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genetically stronger is an understatement right not fair yeah like okay i have to deal with that that's not you know that that but nobody can it's but it's it's the same kind of thing like yeah and it's just um
00:05:10
Speaker
Give, again, give. Look at one of my kids from the girls team. Right. She's a bull. She is knocking over everyone. She is knocking over people for fun. She's stronger. She's not transgender. So what the hell is the difference, honestly, other than the fact that you just want to be a bigot? Right. So it doesn't make sense to me.
00:05:36
Speaker
Yeah, and just to go out of your way to do that shit. I'm sorry. Exactly. That's what that's the shitty people in the world right there. Right. And look, as as a person of Jewish heritage.
00:05:49
Speaker
I'm a little bit sensitive to the idea when people say, oh, well, you know, there, you know, we still need just to solve the transgender question because you know what I was taught growing up everywhere was about, you know, the big thing in Germany was, well, what about the Jewish question? And it's like, what's the question? And ultimately, the question is, should these people be allowed to exist? That's what it means. So when you hear, you know, oh, what's the question? They hear about that palace. How do we solve the Palestinian problem?
00:06:16
Speaker
I know where you're going with that too. And that's why we do the no discrimination here thing because it's important and we all need to stand up to it.
Historical Discrimination Comparison
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And I know we do with our teams when we can. And so please, with your teams, whether it's family team, your team team, your club team, work team, whatever, let's work to end this shit because again,
00:06:44
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This is what gets people killed and nobody really well, good people don't want that. Let's put it that now. Yeah, no, no, we don't we don't need that. Life's too damn short already. Right. Exactly.
Planning for 200th Episode
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Brighter notes.
00:07:02
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episode 200, we are getting to the latter half of the month. So that's coming soon. But of course, I will get a post out for everybody to comment and ask questions on had my head up firmly up my ass this week, but for good reason, for good reason. But yeah, it was my head's been like, as far away from doing shit like that as possible, because I've been so focused on this week and the weekend at hand. But
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I will try and do something tomorrow while I've got a few minutes at work. And if you listen to last week's episode, that should not be a surprise because we were both just like, yeah. Anyway, what I'm saying is sorry for last week, but we we both kind of had our heads up our asses, too. So that's right. We'll get there. Yeah. Anyway, can't be a champion every day. That's coming. That's up to 200 coming soon. Whoo. OK, we have.
00:07:54
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Very, very little to talk about in many, in many ways, but very much at the same time.
Auckland vs Waratahs Analysis
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Let's go. Let's start with Auckland. Go to the Blues and Waratahs. And again, just same story, different week for the Waratahs, just loads of disappointment. Yeah. Good start. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They scored right off the bat, but you got to back it up and
00:08:20
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Oh, we kind of, yeah, I would not mean that was somewhat accidental. So it's like, it hasn't really. I mean, Ned Hennigan scored it. Come on. Yeah. So, yeah. It's. It's a shame they, you know, I felt like.
00:08:39
Speaker
I felt like last week was there, was really it for them anyway. Like Hooper scored at the end of the match. That seemed like a fitting way for that to end. And that this was just like an extra game they played afterwards for fun or something.
00:08:53
Speaker
They didn't have they didn't have it last week either. It was it was all poop last week So it's like what almost they had no business in this in this playoffs, honestly I'm sad to say because I you know, there weren't the the only ones who played like that But they haven't really played well all year. No, they've kind of you know They take advantage of teams that were weak and then they really just kind of spit the bet against the against the better teams Yeah
00:09:21
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Um, yeah. Yeah. So, sure. Mark Tully is good. Just, this just in. Who? He must be new. Yeah. Yeah, rather good. That is, that is definitely, that is definitely the blues best back row, number one.
00:09:44
Speaker
And really, it could be, though I don't think it's going to be because you need to find one priority. It could be the all black starting back row and you wouldn't be able to really sneeze at it. So that's kind of scary. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I mean, like you can't argue with it. No. I mean, there's there's other options, but but. Right.
00:10:14
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A player that has kind of gone on the radar because he's mostly playing second row, but he's actually getting better as he's gone on, was Suafo. I thought he looked really good this weekend as well. Just turning in good performance after good performance, and now he's starting to let the shackles off a little bit, which is good. Only helps the player after that or after a while.
00:10:37
Speaker
Because the blues, you know, I mean, they, I shouldn't, you know, but they're, they're good. They're still missing a cog to when they were like, there's a reason that they were, you know, we're in what fourth place here or whatever this was. Third.
00:10:53
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And it's because they didn't have that same spark that they had before. And I think Tui Palatu was a big part of that. And getting a good shift in all across the pitches, but especially an attack, really opened it up for the rest of them. And he could also take advantage of that. He hasn't quite been the same since his injuries.
00:11:16
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So they need that. And if Sufoa can bring that consistently, that they'll need that. Well, fuck, I don't want to see that right now. Not this year, you know, next year. Well, not your problem this week. So it's OK. That's true. Yeah. And then in Parafetta, being missing has not helped either. I know he hasn't started to come off the bench recently, but then been missing for quite a large chunk of the season. Yeah. So like there there's.
00:11:46
Speaker
They're so scary. Fuck. They're good. Like, you know, they've guys everywhere. They're threats, except again, they're and they're their front row has been not nearly as productive as it was last year. Right. So that's really it. They're tight. They're tight. Five is. Yeah, I think a lot. And if I see both had stints on the sideline, too, which was not helpful. Mm hmm. If I remember right. So that's that is where
Blues' Challenges
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it is. Yeah.
00:12:15
Speaker
But yeah, this is, this is a good team still. You can't, you certainly can't sleep on by any means whatsoever. No, they are going to be, they're going to be scary. They still have Rico Giovanni as well, which is helpful. Um, no, Caleb Clark is kind of the big worry for me. If I'm from a blues fan, I don't know if they really still line up yet, but I'm worried about Caleb Clark to be perfectly blunt as a, as a rugby fan. I'm worried like I'm not even a blues fan. And what's going on there? I don't know. He's.
00:12:46
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Is he like is he falling out of love with it a little bit? Yeah, like he was on pace to be him and. No, it's not happening like that. Talia is is. I was expecting a Talia like performance out of Clark like I was expecting it to be Talia and Clark doing Talia things, not like when we're taking away from the other. It just seems like Talia has been amazing and Clark has been kind of yeah, I'm here too. He is back.
00:13:16
Speaker
laps up. He is back. Okay. Well, that's good. I just need to be better. I know. I need him. We need him to be who he was. Yeah. And that's what that's what I'm worried about him. That's why I'm worried about him. It's not so much the, you know, is he playing or not is okay. Is he playing or not? Right. Right. Right. Yeah. No, I definitely agree with that. And then let's jump to Saturday, the
Reds vs Chiefs Match Review
00:13:46
Speaker
Ooh, your guys had a, had a bit of a scare, but whatever it is about this reds team just seems to confound you sometimes. They fucked right up. They had their heads up there. Like that was the tightest I've seen them all year. I was absolutely nervous because of what happened last time. And which is weird because that was like kind of a shag's lineup that they threw at them. So it should, they shouldn't have be.
00:14:12
Speaker
terribly unconfident, but they sure played like it. Mackenzie played that like it was a British test match. They're calling for points so much. Again, dance with the girl with Brania. The chief's sure shrines. They just decided to play tight. That's like you're doing what the Reds want you to do. Absolutely. Call for a scrum. Your scrum's been fine.
00:14:41
Speaker
Yeah, you're right in front of the post. Yeah. And you know who I want to take. I want to take too much. Any of my back three against any of their back three like fully or even our centers like mashed up one on one against their other guys. Fuck. Yeah. I'm taking us every day. I'll be against Doug and you. That would have been like your lips. You know.
00:15:01
Speaker
Yes, please. And and the kick for points like after, you know, three times the third time I was like, could you just fucking stop? And then but he did it like five times. Like, how are you going to the Reds outscored him? Try wise. Like, yeah, that's not. Oh, I'm just it's just like one of those. I am as angry as I could be at my arm as disgusted as I can be in my team. Possible.
00:15:27
Speaker
except for one other person I know who should feel the same way except his team lost. And that's the only difference. This was a gross performance and good. Flush it, put it away. Let's play some real rugby next week. Yeah. For the Reds, I thought, number one, I thought they might pull it off.
00:15:49
Speaker
Number two, you're not alone. Right. And I'm sure there were a lot of people that had went and, you know, tightened right up on their backsides. Just a tiny bit. I thought Tate McDermott played one of his best matches in a red shirt this year. Far none. And.
00:16:08
Speaker
There's all this talk of like Carvalho playing for, I don't think you need to go digging that deep. It shouldn't be Nick white. It should be Tate McDermott. And I know they're going to, I know because Eddie's Eddie, he's going to do what he wants and he's going to probably pick for the white to start this, to start, you know, mostly important game, uh, matches at the world cup. I think Tate McDermott is the better player. Hands down. And I don't know.
00:16:33
Speaker
I don't know what Australia can do with Nick White at nine as opposed to Tate McDermott. I think they can definitely shock some people that he gives them another option to, and it's not the taking off either. That's the thing that I wanted to just make clear. Like, okay, he can snipe and scoot. I get it. Like a lot of those half backs that can do that also can't do it. Another thing. He does run those support lines like an Alex Mitchell does. He does give good service. He has the kicks.
00:17:00
Speaker
He's got the whole kit and caboodle. I don't know why you wouldn't want to. The only other person that I would sub him for is Jake Gordon and Jake Gordon's hurt right now. So yeah. Yeah, I'm sure he should be in both of them should be in the team. I think so. The two of them give them a better shot than Nick White does. Here's here's a take for you for this for the back to the match.
00:17:25
Speaker
If right is in at six rather than Uru, who wins this game? It's certainly a one score game and not two score game. Yeah. And then it's, you know, I got to say that point. And I say that because Uru was.
00:17:45
Speaker
You wasn't good. You wasn't good. Like people are touting him as like being this great. I don't see it. I, Hey, I'll put my hand up. I thought he was going to be better than this. I thought I don't see it at all. Much better last year. And I know my hands back down. Yeah. I don't see it. I haven't seen it yet. Honestly. And nor do I think I'm going to at this point.
00:18:07
Speaker
Yeah, so it's, it was, I will say, I will say that once Josh Iwani came on at the 61st minute, I saw that too, as I, here comes the fun. Yeah, I was like, okay, no, now, and what was the score at the time? Did, did, uh, cause it was right after the Buenavallu try.
00:18:29
Speaker
Because that was it. That was it for me. I was like, fuck this shit. This is bullshit. Yeah. They may have been winning. The Reds may have been winning it. I think the Reds were winning. It's not that we're damn close to be losing, but because then Mackenzie hit another one at 70 minutes and then who scored? Is that the Peter Goss try?
00:18:52
Speaker
the Peter Gus try. Yeah, there it is. Yep. And he sort of put it away. So yeah, they were losing and Weber came and went, I'm sorry. You want me to came on, I was like, Okay, no, they're gonna win this. Not for some like, that was my confidence builder, because they needed to move Mackenzie out of that shit. And yeah, and that's the tour was was kind of playing. All right, I, you know,
00:19:17
Speaker
But I think I was like, if anyone was going to pull anybody from that back line, it was him. Because Narrowa was having a day at that point. And yeah. You got me. Kane is still not useful. I don't know how he can be on the All-Black squad. He's going to be perfect. I don't think he does. You can't go into it with your captain, because he can't play. He can't be in that starting lineup. But he's not even as good as anyone on the bench.
00:19:49
Speaker
unless you just say, okay, well, you're our program captain and then we have a game day captain or something like, you know, do some. That's usually what I would do in that case. Yeah. Yeah. That's absolutely what I would do in that case. 100%. Let's go to, let's go to Christchurch and
Crusaders vs Drua Analysis
00:20:13
Speaker
Yeah, indeed. They needed him. The jury did. Or something. They needed something. The things they did in the first 20 minutes of that game to just give the game to... They just let Crusaders do whatever they wanted. And it was like they barely put up a fight in the first 20 minutes. And that's not to say there was no effort.
00:20:45
Speaker
that whatever they needed to do at any given time, whatever they absolutely had to do at any given time, the baseline, they just didn't do like, okay, you need to just win your own scrum. Nope. Penalty or something like that. Gave it away. Didn't Lamani knock at the back on one of them? Yes. Yep.
00:21:03
Speaker
Yeah. And and just little and then it was going to be a great play off of it, too. And they they wasn't a try that they called back or something. So I'm thinking of a different match. No, no, that was a free jack smash. We'll get to that. But yeah. Just not good. Like, that's that's like that, you know, that's not.
00:21:26
Speaker
That's like first or second week of the season. That's not playoffs. You got to up your game. And it's a learning experience for them. It's good in the end to realize, oh, this is not the same thing. We can't just kind of glide into this and be loose. There's professionalism that you have to, and that's what I'm saying, is like you have to know what to do for the circumstances and what you cannot let the other team do because, man, it was
00:21:56
Speaker
him. I was like, Oh, yeah, they're gonna like I could see the play coming. I was like, Oh, the procedures are gonna are heading hitting this man. And that would be the one guy that they didn't mark on the defense that they just kind of let him go. And it's like, Oh, my gosh, like, what were you doing? They're going this way. And you're just like, Yeah, we don't need to cover him. Um, yeah, you do. Yeah. But I would advise that you do that, especially when fellows like Will Jordan are walking around out there. And yeah, Cody Taylor, she just do whatever what he wanted to do. And
00:22:25
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, and really their, their score came from nothing, you know? You know, yeah. Yeah. I got an intercept and that he read and it was a, it was a, it was a poor decision. I think it was, um, you remember it was Quentin Strange. It was way too wide. I remember who the hell threw the pass. It wasn't a good decision anyway. Um, might've been and or McLeod. So one of them, I don't remember which one, but it doesn't matter. Uh, Burke, whoever, uh, still bad decision.
00:22:55
Speaker
decision all over and they pay for it.
00:23:00
Speaker
There's no there's no other way to describe it. And it was great to see the jury here. I will say that. Yeah, it really was. I think a lot of it's not lose that. Let's not lose side of that. It was great to have them here. It's great to see another team that can compete and keep a team like let's be honest, like a team like the Highlanders or the force didn't deserve to be in this. No quarter file. Had they be in, I don't see them doing any better. Oh, no, not at all.
00:23:26
Speaker
Not at all. And that's with some of those players having plenty of experience in this situation as opposed to... Shit, look at the Waratas, right? Same kind of thing. It's not... You can't say that they did much better anyway. So yeah, there's...
00:23:42
Speaker
what, six teams in this competition that are fucking serious and the six that are not up to snuff. That's actually pretty good, actually. You know, any of the other, any of the tops, any of the six that are not watertoes or druid that are in these playoffs, I had a puncher's chance at this. Right. You know, reds, they're kind of, they're the, to me, the bottom of that six, for good reason, but
00:24:11
Speaker
I mean, shit, they almost took out the Chiefs. So what do you like to do to their credit? They definitely were going in the wrong direction. The Reds were as well. Now, obviously, we're getting onto them back onto them now. Yeah, but it's.
00:24:24
Speaker
It is a good testament to their character of being able to just kind of write the ship just for a little bit and get into the quarterfinal. Yeah. Wasn't pretty, but they got there. And yeah, is Brad Thorne probably going to, you know, just look back on the season and be pissed. I think he's done now as far as I remember. So it doesn't, of course he's going to, but yeah. Yeah. At least they were able to respond.
00:24:50
Speaker
But I, you know, you don't, I don't think the rebels obviously didn't respond. The toss started hot, but then just petered out. And my guys kind of did too. We'll get to them in a second. But Red's at least kind of show some character and showed up.
00:25:10
Speaker
So I can give them a little bit of credit and at least they didn't completely lay down for bread porn, even though they didn't start off that year or this, the season at all. Very well. Uh, just not great, not great at all. Right. All right.
Hurricanes vs Brumbies Insights
00:25:32
Speaker
Damn it. Not great at all. Damn it. I, let me just say.
00:25:40
Speaker
I.
00:25:46
Speaker
I don't, I don't hold anything against anybody else in this match except the hurricanes long-term, long-term because I look back and there were matches that we looked at away from us. Um, there was the blues match at home that we looked at away from us. There was, uh, even the match against you that we looked at away from us at home, the match against the jury on the road. They only lost once on the road. I know, but we could have played so much better in that match and we didn't, we played like absolute dog shit. Uh,
00:26:14
Speaker
And there are just little things here and there that could have put us in a better position to flip, at least flip where this match was played. And I think that would have done, made the difference in the end, you know, home cooking, as opposed to having to go across the, go across the, uh, the water there to play against the team on their, on their patch can make a difference when the score lines only four points. So all that said,
00:26:40
Speaker
Did they play well? Took them a little bit. I know Kenny Nohalo scored quick, but man that after that it took. It was the better part of that half that until they finally kind of got rattled again. I was just like what the fuck are we doing like? It's just. The decision there were some decisions to go for goal. I was like no, no, no. Let's keep on hand and hang out down here because.
00:27:05
Speaker
the biggest thing you need to do when you're on the road is just take the air out of the whole thing a little bit and quiet the crowd a little bit. And you do that by hanging onto the ball and not, you know, and not kicking for points. And even there are moments where we kick for points and we still fucking missed it. So that was helpful. That too, not, not helpful at all. And so I was overall a little disappointed with our decision making bar, the end, you know, right?
00:27:36
Speaker
And so. Yeah, good. So Jared hasn't heard my full take on this. Which is. Especially there on the ending anyway, like first off, I expected this to be a close game, right? This didn't surprise course. I did think that when Devin Flanders scored that try that it was over.
00:27:57
Speaker
I was like, that was awesome. That was just an amazing try. I don't know that Brumbies really are coming back from that. And they did, to their credit, they did. I was unbelievably impressed with how they fought back. But here's the thing, in the end, if someone came to you beginning of the season and said, okay, your playoffs, your playoff,
00:28:27
Speaker
Ron is going to hinge on. Artie Sevilla in a one on one tackle situation on the goal line with ball in hand. How you feeling about that? And. I don't mean to speak for you, but I. If I were you, I'd feel pretty OK, good, give it to me. Yep, yep, that I will take.
00:28:47
Speaker
Give it to me. Absolutely. And I feel like that this was kind of always coming to that, which is kind of like, you know, when, when Flanders scored, I thought that was, Oh, wow. It's not even going to take another already try. You already have one. That's good. I already had one, but he was, he was, he wasn't settled on that. Certainly at any point in the match. Would he ever be though? That's not already our role. So no, exactly. And.
00:29:11
Speaker
Um, but here's the thing. And this, and I don't know if it's the rule or just the way they're enforcing it, but you're in the 85th minute as a, if I'm a referee, I am not fucking stopping playing for that. Right. And then having to end the game.
00:29:28
Speaker
because I already could have played it backwards too. If, you know, like there wasn't like fully down, like he could have, you know, brought it back over and replayed it. Like, I think that should be how, like, yeah, you try for it once, but if, you know, just like in a tackle contest, if like you're being tackled, okay, place it back and we'll go from there. Cause I thought he did. I thought they were like, were able to play it anyway, but he blew the whistle up and just stopped it.
00:29:49
Speaker
And I'm like, that's it. You're hinging everything on that and you don't know what you saw. No. And that that that's the that's that to me is the worst part. You can't just like that, that that kills it for for like, you know, the team that you're like, you're fucking like you're basically rewarding the Brumby's because they may have done something good that you don't know if they did or not. But they're on. Honestly, right. The the the.
00:30:18
Speaker
I don't know how RD didn't score that. I saw a hand underneath it, but I also saw plenty of times when there could have not been a hand underneath it. But we couldn't see. And by him going to the TMO with the, that's no try, but please overturn me. Well, fuck, now that's it. That's game.
00:30:44
Speaker
There's better ways to, what I'm saying is no matter what, there's much better ways to manage that situation. And referees, you know, we've, we've talked about them recently enough. It's just.
00:30:54
Speaker
And maybe it came on the heels of, remember that, because it was the anniversary of the umpire who blew that perfect game for the Detroit pitcher because he called a clearly out player safe. Safe. Yep. I remember that. And he was basically out of the league in like a year. He, yeah, I guess, got a perfect game going. I remember that. And just Jim Joyce, that was him. That's how bad I remember. He was bad though, to be honest. Like we all know, I'm pretty sure he was pretty bad.
00:31:25
Speaker
It just reminded me of something like that. Like you just completely, like you have some situational awareness, a little bit. And even though the guy was out, but still have some situational, like you got the right, what should the call, but in this case, I don't know that Barry was right or wrong as far as whether or not he called it, you know, held up right away. I also thought it was really quick on it. Like you get a little bit of a fight speed on it was probably the most annoying thing. Yeah. And it's.
00:31:45
Speaker
Remember, right? Right.
00:31:56
Speaker
it needs to be a thing under world rugby's instruction or that they give to the instruction to referees let's not like we have to find a way to not end the game on a held up honestly like it is one of the most annoying ways to end a game like the attacking team is still attacking right can we have the dropout
00:32:16
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. I thought that was part of the point of having the dropout was supposed to be, let's continue to make this game play, let's make this a thing. Yeah. Yes, exactly. I would definitely agree with that. Same thing how King doesn't end on a penalty. Same exact circumstances. The game is still going. There could have been more opportunity to play.
00:32:44
Speaker
Potentially and he just you cut that off right if he and Let's let's just establish the difference if they kicked it dead for whatever reason already wouldn't kick up But you know what I mean if if the hurricanes were to kick it dead and it would roll into touch Totally legitimate blow the whistle game over right. I'm not looking for it to not end on a dropout situation I'm not I'm looking for it to not end on a held up that being a difference. Yes, you know, yeah, I
00:33:09
Speaker
But in the end, they had four tries. We had three. So really, it's back to kind of your thing with DMACC. Like, can we not kick for points so fucking much? You know, and Brett Cameron's boot was on, no doubt. But we attack. One of the most beautiful things about the hurricanes that I've loved for a long time is they fucking attack. And to just kind of go, eh, we're going to we're going to do
00:33:36
Speaker
you know, we're going to kick for goal. Huh? What? Why? Yeah. Why? Why? Why? With, with, you know, Billy Proctor, who's been playing, I have a skin, Jordy Barrett, Kenny, the hollows obviously come good. You know, already Dewey played really well when he came on. Booth was in, but still Roy guard and in some situations, like, what are we doing? What are we doing?
00:34:05
Speaker
I don't know. My dog is freaking out, by the way, because of this thunder all over us right now. Oh, yeah. He is not happy. Poor fellow. He hates the shit. But just with all that, like I say it and I know you do, too. I say it to my players. Back yourself. Back yourself. And those players and this isn't like an old thing that like Fergie Alex Ferguson used to subscribe to. Fortune favors the ball.
00:34:35
Speaker
Not always, but more often than not. And when you're away from home, you're still away from home. Are you the better team? Absolutely. But you're still away from home. So back yourself, you know, let's go scrum, let's go tap and go, let's go corner and get this fucking thing over the line instead of, you know, a few threes here and there.
00:34:57
Speaker
because that's just, yeah, no, no, no. You know, and, you know, if this is a five to four game with the tries and somehow we still lose. All right. Well, I can be pissed about that later, but like, yeah. Yeah. Pretty annoying. Yeah. So I I'm yeah. I was fairly annoyed. I don't play. It's it's yeah. You should you have every right to be annoyed.
00:35:27
Speaker
Yeah, I would be too. I felt I was that. What do you think I was feeling at the end? I was like, Jared's going to be sad. Yeah, I just like we did it to ourselves in the end. I was pissed at. Yes, I was pissed at Barry. I didn't think he had a great game, but still like I was.
00:35:43
Speaker
pissed at ourselves, you know, the, the, even, even the little moment where like a player like Jody Barrett's quality lost it on the advantage that was coming up. And I was like, Oh dude, like nine times out of 10, he slips that and he's in. Like just those little frustration things where it's like, Oh dude, so many little inch things that we could have got right and got better and won this fucking thing. And we didn't. And now Jason Holland's gone. He's going to become part of the all blacks team. So I don't know who's gonna,
00:36:12
Speaker
who they're playing on having them take over. I would back, personally, I would back either Corey Jane or blind doll to do it. I think Corey Jane is probably the more experienced of the two. They may go looking outside of the organization, but I would back Corey Jane to do it. I liked CJ when he played. So I back him to do it here. But yeah, just, I love the squad and they're obviously going to have some guys that break up and leave and that's just how it is. Colsey, Colsey, Colsey.
00:36:42
Speaker
calling it a day after the woke up, but man, you know, we have, uh, uh, yeah. Um, and then they have some, some decent talent. Um, I don't know if we're going to be able to hang on to five because I know he wants to move back to Europe so we can keep playing for Italy. If, if picked, um, if he's not picked for the woke up, then we might be able to keep on the hang onto him. But if he's picked for the woke up, then he's probably going to look to do it back to Europe somewhere. So.
00:37:10
Speaker
Yeah. Disappointing bitterly disappointing, but disappointing just the same. Um, yeah. And I'm in the end, I'm really annoyed that we get to the same exact fucking spot and we lose again. And that to me is just like, uh, it's not, it's no progress. It's no progress. Like I thought we were making progress at the start of this year. And in the end, we really didn't make any.
00:37:36
Speaker
We really didn't make any. Did we develop some new young talent? Yes, we did. Godfrey, Seakinson, Aidan Morgan. You also got more playing time. Like, yeah.
00:37:48
Speaker
Yeah. There's, I like Kayla. I liked what we saw Kayla Delaney this, this week. Uh, he looks great. Um, who was obviously very good. Um, Kenny Nahalo has come out, come out of the woodwork to be good. Morby's come good. Like, yeah, lots of good in terms of that. But man, just overall, not quite, not quite hope we can, hopefully we can hang on to Billy Proctor. I don't want him going anywhere. That's one guy I'd like to hang on to for a long, long time.
00:38:18
Speaker
Right. Matt can stay in the Premier League and the Premier ship. That's all good. But but I like Billy like he's like, yeah, yeah. Anyway, put it this put it this way, like just, you know, a few years ago, it didn't look like chiefs were going to do this. So.
00:38:38
Speaker
You already have a lot of stuff, a lot of good shit there. So. Right. It's not like you had bad coaching. It's not like you had a bad tactics. It's just, it didn't quite click. There's, there's all, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Another year with Roy guard, who's obviously also another one has come out of it.
00:38:55
Speaker
I'm not sure we'll see TJ in a yellow uniform ever again. We do great, but I don't think we will. Right. And I do rate, as I've said pretty consistently this year, I rate the canes about the level of the blues. And to me, the blues are kind of in a
00:39:12
Speaker
level trajectory. I think the Keynes have really picked it up. I'd be optimistic. I don't know what to think of the Chiefs year to year at this point, really, because they've worked this year. I don't know how they can maintain the consistency of it. Yeah. Look at those Weber, which sucks.
00:39:29
Speaker
But Ratsuma is actually very good. So yeah, it's a huge drop off as big as like you would think. Red rubber is absolutely amazing. But it's not as big a drop off as it may be at once thought thought to be, you know, so not that big a deal. Yeah, yeah, it's and Brett Cameron came good this year, which was great. I hope we hang on to him. That'll be that'll be great.
00:39:59
Speaker
We'll see. We'll see. Artie, Artie is, you know, as loyal as Loelcom, so I think he's around for a little while longer. But unless he wanted the contingent that jumped ship to Japan for a couple of years, he might have. Can't remember off the top of my head. I should remember that stuff.
00:40:17
Speaker
I know I'm pretty bleh at this point. So I'm just kind of enjoying the rugby like and I'm burnt out with who's doing what, who's going where, especially after the Irish. Oh, I know. Well, some of the guys have already been. Some guys have already been been resigned, like Munga got signed. And then what's his name? Oliver Hoskins. Oliver Hoskins had is just putting out like a little.
00:40:45
Speaker
you know, personal story about it. They see tweeted out some stuff. So I haven't seen it all. I'll take a look. Um, anyway, more happier notes. Let's go to happier notes because I'm, I'm now, I'm now officially annoyed.
Free Jacks Performance & Fan Engagement
00:41:02
Speaker
Um, free jacks. Uh,
00:41:08
Speaker
And I'm not I don't I don't can't I'm not gonna claim that I know the knowledge of the Seattle team just tell you whether or not that was their first team or if that was like kind of what we did same same, but yeah, exactly. Still to go to Seattle and get more than one win beyond one score. Yeah, not too bad. Not too bad at all. They played really well the free and and it was
00:41:35
Speaker
It was a typical freejax performance too, where they put pressure, they put pressure, they put pressure, and sometimes they fucked up. But pretty much their whole thing is just to, again, put pressure on the other team and eventually they do something stupid. Bodhi Waka had in the first, well, it was the first 10 minutes or whatever, had a sequence
00:41:53
Speaker
where he dropped two easy intercepts. Yeah, like on the same sequence, like the first one gave the gave the this Seattle, the Scrum advantage is clearly not an intentional knock. It was a shitty pass that just hung and he went to catch it and just botched it because it was like you like you really just threw this right to me like it was one of those.
00:42:15
Speaker
Um, and then the second one, kind of the same thing. And, and so yeah, just ended up being a scrum, but it's like, this was Seattle did not handle the free Jack's pressure very well. No, no, not at all. And that, that, that speaks volumes about their defense and the way they've been playing. I mean, if you look at the.
00:42:32
Speaker
the lineup going like that would be a, that would be a first choice front row for me for the most part. So that's fine. Second row and back row. Definitely not. Um, I love those guys. No doubt about it. My mind. Well, though, who was the eight, who I'm sorry, David, David, David was the team of the week. He was awesome.
00:42:49
Speaker
He was amazing. How much have we seen him play this year? The little bits that we've seen of him, he's been brilliant. I will say that. I mean, was it the Chicago match? He was awesome. I remember that. I think it was the Chicago match here. That was really good.
00:43:06
Speaker
the halfback combination, absolutely top choice. And then as well as the back three midfielder, probably a B ish look to it with Spencer Jones and Vanderbank who Vanderbank is like the forgotten man. Like she was brilliant for us last year. And now he's, you know, Lesage has come in and obviously LaRue Milan still very good. So it's just kind of become this, unfortunately he's just kind of become the back burner type of guy. That sucks. And then, and then the, the bench is mostly
00:43:34
Speaker
meh, DeWitt's usually a good choice culture brand, yes, but like Connor Young, meh, Paretti, good choice, Ethan Fryer, definitely a development player, Olson, same, Mitch Jacobson is there kind of as a break glass in case of emergency type of thing for the forward. I mean, I know Fryer scored, but you know, that was a different story for a different day. But point being, yeah, it was probably a little bit of a
00:43:56
Speaker
a bit of a B team in, in, in many regards, but still some A choice, some important A choice spots like quatrin, like Poland, like Patras. So I'll leave it at that. For those who have ever been on a, an organized team.
00:44:14
Speaker
that has like depth, real actual like depth. There's, you know, the captains and I said this when I was a captain too, and sometimes it was true, sometimes it was bullshit. Like you have to thank the backups, the guys who run the scout team and shit like that, because their being good makes the starters good. And if you don't think there's competition in that back row, holy shit. Like we're talking about officially, like he's that good and yet
00:44:40
Speaker
can't really get a sniff because there's some really there's even more talented players in front of them. Well, Joe Johnson used to be a first name on the team sheet type of person, too. Right. Not anymore. Not anymore, because there's just that much competition. Right. This is after Justin Johnson left. Like we missed him. But I mean, I don't really.
00:44:59
Speaker
I miss him so much anymore. I still miss him, but I'm like, damn, we got contributors. They got guys to replace him. I saw him last month. He has gotten a little chubby. OK, good, good. Voyo's eating now. He's eating now. Yeah, like, they're just that good. They're there. It helps make that top team. And I love this freejack team and what they're going to do. Not just, you know, not just in the playoffs, not this year, but overall, like this is
00:45:29
Speaker
It's a good product and it's getting more press in the Boston area, especially now that the Red Sox are still kind of poop.
00:45:38
Speaker
And so it's like, Hey, do you want to spend a couple of hours out in the city or do you want to come down to Quincy and, you know, watch some live sports? And it's such a great event. And I'm sad. I'm going to miss it because I got the thing for the family on Sunday, but I know you and your, you and Jess will have a blast. So, but it's always so much fun. I'm looking forward to the match on the eighth, that's going to, or the seventh, whatever the first, that's the one where it's all mixed up.
00:46:03
Speaker
But it's just such a fun event. And you and I have both brought people that are not rugby people outside of the community into it. And they're just like, this is so much fun. And so I want to applaud because I know that there are a lot of teams that do a good job and there are teams that do a terrible job of this. So I do want to applaud the folks at the front office mags all the way down to the people that probably don't even get their freaking name on the website.
00:46:33
Speaker
for doing a great job with setting it up and to make it a thing that people want to go to for quite a long time. And, um, you know, now we're got, we got other events coming in with the us under 23 is coming in soon, uh, for the women, which will be ended next month, which I'm looking forward to attending that. Um,
00:46:54
Speaker
And I'm definitely going to make sure that as many of my players from both teams, but especially the girls, um, are in attendance because I want them to see like, this is, this is an attainable level for you. And then after that, it's kind of like, take your chance, take your shot. But I did. Yeah. Overall, like I know from, from the, from what I've heard, um, Chargo's actually doing a pretty good job. Houston does a great job. Utah does a good job. Seattle does a great job. Um,
00:47:23
Speaker
I guess Atlanta does a pretty good show, although they're pretty, they're pretty terrible. Yeah. And I think DC's in the same spot over and over again now too, which is great. So yeah, there's, there's, there's good teams that are doing good things for match days, which are attracting eyes and that only helps the product. So that's great.
MLR League Updates
00:47:41
Speaker
Also a shout out to the free Jax fans who went to Seattle and Hazzad for they got the boys like I put this way I can imagine what it's like so we had a band I played a division three football right right and we actually had a
00:47:59
Speaker
a band, and they were bad. It was like a 20 piece like, and they were like added to it was bad. But after every touchdown and they scored they played our fights on the fight song. Yep. And
00:48:16
Speaker
After a while, you kind of got to like associating with good things. So I would hear it somewhere. I'll be like, you know, whatever at an event and be like, oh, it's cool. I can only imagine the players like with the Hazas, like they, like, I wonder if they do that to themselves, like just to wonder how that, how that translates. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's great. Whip around for this one this past weekend, Sabercats beat
00:48:46
Speaker
Oh glory, Jackals lost again to Nola, New York beat Atlanta, but you know, and that's the pro, I think that did it for them. They, they're secure in their spot. Hounds finally won one. Hounds have been struggling like mightily bad and warriors.
00:49:02
Speaker
And I needed that win, unfortunately, and they couldn't do it. I got to stop right here and point out the big fucking clangers on Chris Matina hitting that last minute. Yeah. The conversion. Yep. Right. To win it. Like for big spot. Yeah. Well done. Nobody was there to make fun of his bald spot. That's why. Yeah.
00:49:24
Speaker
Look, I chirped the hell out of him when I see him live. No question about it, but love the guy. And that's why. So. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very good. Very good. And then, unfortunately, man, Toronto's I don't know what the hell they're going to do, man, that they just keep putting up crooked numbers and getting crooked numbers put up against them. It's pretty bad.
00:49:49
Speaker
on the chat we have with a bunch of MLR fans. There's been some consternation about some of the teams. And among them being Toronto, who was good a couple of years ago, and I had to, you know me, I had to like physically stop my thumbs from typing out, well, all your best players on the free jacks now. Double them are, yeah. Not go over well. So I'm just gonna put that one away.
00:50:15
Speaker
Keep that tucked away for just a little bit longer there chief. Yeah. So I've put that, I'll put that here. Cause no, nobody held that chattel. Very unlikely. Bill, don't you dare. Oh yeah. Um, we do have, so we have lamps for the, for the blues and crusaders. Oh, do we know? Stem I.
00:50:38
Speaker
We can tell you, okay. So same front row, same back, same pack overall. You want, yep. One through eight, Christie Barrett. Yeah. Clark's the only change I see, which is, I mean, okay. The change for the better. Nothing against Asian lamb. No, uh, or let's see crusaders.
00:51:00
Speaker
Yeah, strange. Oh, dude, freaking, what's his butt? Blacketer having to come off after being subbed. I was like, oh, no. Oh, he is, he is definitely their best back rower and that sucks because really he probably does, like he's not, he's a bit of a Swiss army knife and a bit of a Jack of all trades and master of none, but he does probably merit a spot on the all black squad. So,
00:51:27
Speaker
whether or not he gets a lot of playing time at the World Cup, I don't know, but he is really good. Like I thought he was one of their better players last year in a really bad season. So says a lot about his character at the very least. Um, yeah, I don't see do, do, do, do. Yeah, not good. And he's out again. Fuck. That sucks. That really sucks. Um, back lines the same. Yeah.
00:51:56
Speaker
Yeah, almost the same exact starting 15, I think. It seems similar. Yeah. I don't see anything different. I didn't memorize the last one, but it looks... Yeah, I'm not spotting a change. Doesn't mean there isn't one, but in terms of how they started.
00:52:15
Speaker
But yeah. Ouch. Oh man. Yeah. I feel, I feel for blacker. I think he's a really good player and just have a really shitty year in terms of injury. It sucks. See any where we're actually not as late as we usually are here. So I don't think we're going to get the other ones either. Nope. Two hours easily from the, we're way off now. This is what happens when we don't have to talk about. Oh, maybe it's better that we just shut up. Cool.
00:52:45
Speaker
All right, so there's that. We will dive more into World Cup teams next week, because we only have two matches to talk about, plus whatever happens in the free jacks. Yeah, and then we'll figure out F200 stuff and all that shit. So keep your eyes peeled and ears open for that stuff. We have one more thing to do, because we don't have the fantasy. Oh, the pick of them. I knew I had some. I just had it pulled off and I was stupid. Here we go. Thank you. OK. I was looking at it.
00:53:17
Speaker
You know, I haven't, I did not, I didn't even really think about, this is a nightmare of a pickup and I'm going to go blues. Cause ultimately I think they're the better team. I don't think the Crusaders are that good this year. I think the fact that in Christchurch is the only thing that's going to convince me to pick the Crusaders that this was not when I would pick the blows.
00:53:37
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah, no doubt. I just I think the Blues are good enough to pick them off there at home. They may. They may. And I will be shocked. Chief Brumby's fucking hell. I don't think the Brumby's were super spectacular last weekend. They probably should have lost. So right. And your guys already had their their spook. So right. I feel like, yeah, exactly. And I think the
00:54:01
Speaker
the Brumbies played their best last week. That was probably their worst performance from their top side this year. And so it's like, okay, Brumbies played up, Chiefs played down.
00:54:14
Speaker
I think there's going to be some rockets up bombs and they got to set it straight because I'm sure Clayton McMillan is all over them this way. Exactly. Like even even if they play like they can't play like this and win a championship. They can't play like that when a championship but they can. They can play better. So yeah, like you said McMillan will get them straight. Yep. Chiefs. Unquestionably. Unquestionably. Cool. Okay. There we are. That's that.
Conclusion & Future Discussions
00:54:40
Speaker
fantasy will be podcast batch, email.com for any questions and concerns and, you know, Wednesday, it's going to be Thursday. I want to, I want to wake up to crusaders blues. I can't, I'm looking forward to waking up. Yeah, I am too. Well, the fact that I don't have to, I don't have a match Friday is really good for me. Um, I'm actually like, we have practice and stuff and that'll be kit day as well. But then I'll be very excited about that. But.
00:55:05
Speaker
Yeah, I am looking forward to be able to kind of just be low key for most of the morning after work and settle in for that for a little bit until I start to get nervous because, dude, I hate being on this side of this. Can I just say that? Like me and, you know, Eric, like we're just like, I fucking hate being on this side of it. Like we, no doubt, as you probably do as well, enjoy the hell out of coaching. Like, God damn, it is so much easier to be on the other side of it and playing.
00:55:35
Speaker
Okay. I hate it. I was like, like, like the end of, like, I don't know if you watched the match yet, but I sent you, but man, the end of it, like it took years off my life from the semi-final from last week. Like, Oh my God. Oh, I mean, me and Eric just sat on the turf, like afterwards and we're like, I'm tired.
00:56:00
Speaker
Oh, man. Yeah, I haven't I haven't coached in a playoff situation. No, just that it sucks. Yeah, it sucks. It really does. Like, you know, technically, I guess I have. It's just been I should say it's been a while I'd have with with Boston women and but I wasn't really the head coach of that. Right. And at that point, I was like, this team is not like this team is not well coached enough to win. So what do I give up? So you're like, whatever. Yeah.
00:56:28
Speaker
um yeah when you when you have a team that you know can do it but you're just like um and it's just they just got to get it done and it's out of your it's out of your hands that's the worst part like yeah you can't do anything about it uh it's like nope i've i've done all my shit beforehand that you can make small adjustments and you know
00:56:47
Speaker
give a kid a knock on the head as a reminder like, hey, you need to do this just a little bit better, but that's really all you can control. Everything else is up to them. And whether or not they remember that little reminder is a different story. So, much as I love my players, but, oh man. Yeah, so if last Wednesday took years off my life, I don't know what's going to happen, what the hell is going to happen Saturday, but
00:57:11
Speaker
Yeah, all bets are off at that point. We'll see. Anyhoo. Yeah, fantasy rugby podcast at gmail.com. Questions, comments, concerns, all that good shit. We'll be back here next week talking World Cup squads, because I'm sure we'll see more.
00:57:27
Speaker
specified ones, but there's been plenty of been released and there's plenty of talking points, even without anything being finalized. All Black Squad has been released this week as well, I think for the first time, but that's still probably gonna be finalized as well. Yeah, right. Like even in England, yeah, then it was like,
00:57:44
Speaker
Oh yeah, that's a 28 player squad of which like 13 probably aren't going to see the light of day. So exactly. Yeah, right. But yeah, we'll talk that. We'll talk semi-final. We'll look forward to the final. We'll talk the final regular season game for the free jacks and how that looks and what that means. And then obviously look forward to
00:58:06
Speaker
the semifinal for the two conferences in MLR because won't bother. Prejax won't be involved with that, but just the point, just the same. Yeah. So we'll get, we'll get plenty in next week, but we do appreciate you all for hanging out listening to us. And of course, um, the, the feedback that we've gotten is just absolutely wonderful and we appreciate it very, very much. We will catch you all next week. Enjoy the big rugby going on this weekend and have a good one later.