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Speaker: Hey everybody, welcome back. It is The Fantasy Corner Games. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Hey, here we go. It is The Fantasy Corner, folks. This is what you guys want. This is something I hope everybody wanted. If not, this might be the thing that you didn't ask for that you got. Right. You're getting it, so. Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker: like it so take it and like it but you know in the meantime I need to I need to get this open there we go we're good all right um buy our friend georgia coffee if you haven't yet just do it stop stop delaying and do it right especially if you're listening to this portion if you're still listening at this point you owe georgia beer yeah you owe him something yeah he has been instrumental in showing us this
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Speaker: Yeah, we're working on it, right? Right. So yeah, if you don't already know, this is where we talk all fantasy bullshit. So strap in. And it's going to get super nerdy this year because I'm involved and I'm committed to notifying this shit. Yeah. We've already had discussions about it. You might have a problem. I don't think there's a light about it.
Speaker: about that. So unfortunately, there's one minor hiccup in the whole fantasy rugby world nuts frd have been slacking to say the least. Unfortunately, unfortunate. Um, yeah. It's that's, it sucks. That'll that'll be a super downer if we can't get it off. I saw shit wasn't even even
Speaker: It might've been the geek himself tweeting out because it was, it was like a thread of people tweeting shit about it. Like all these other sports, there was like a, the F one, um, F one Twitter. Yeah. I saw that counter, whatever, which links to like fantasy F one James. I don't, I don't know how that works, but why isn't rugby doing that? Like you go to, you go to ESPN .com. What's the first thing that pops up at you? Fucking fantasy sports. Go to the other thing I go looking for. Cause I don't look at anything else. Right. Just nothing else is really worth it. Um,
Speaker: But yeah, I it's just why why don't we promote this? Because, you know, the stats are hidden from people. They should be fucking selling this shit. Yes. And the stats sell it. You know, oh, I like people thought certain quarterbacks were good just because they had good fantasy points back in the day. Like they're a little bit smarter about it now. But like, right. That was a thing. But either way, it was a fucking selling point.
Speaker: Totally. Right? Like, shit, who is that Minnesota? Dante Culpepper. They were like, people were like, oh, man, like, Dante Culpepper could sell shit. He couldn't quarterback a team. No, he could not. But he could sell shit. I mean, he had fucking Randy Moss and Chris Carter. He didn't have to quarterback. He just kind of had to put it somewhere. Chuck it up and see what happens.
Speaker: Like, if he got hit, he fumbled it and all that shit. And he threw a lot of picks, like, even with those two receivers. But people thought he was good because he would get like 30 points a game. And so, like, he could market him to be like, look at all these touchdowns he throws. Hey, how about that? Like, why aren't they marketing Samsonites right now? Being like, look at this guy. He broke like, fuck, a guy breaks the home run record in baseball and they throw like a ticker tape parade for him.
Speaker: Like Sam Simmons wins it and then everybody's like, yeah. I mean, there's some fanfare, but they're not really selling it. Like this is the best try score the premise ever seen. And he's an eight. Like there's a lot that should be going on there, but then they're just missing out on because they refuse to sell it. Yeah. Beats me. I'm super lost on it, but don't have the answer either. But that's why we're here to sell it.
Speaker: Yeah, we'll do our best over here. You're welcome. I'll take my fucking cut when you guys finally start doing this shit. Anyway, TRM, our old faithful, our buddy, Ed, so on. So everybody else over there. Nobody, there's only one player over 400K in TRM this year. Right.
Speaker: Tomorrow's worth it still either way. Even if you have to hold on to him through dead spots, you do. He's very good. And he's like your eligible still, which is great. Yeah, you figure out a way to re -sign him when he comes back. That's the must do. Sam Simmons becomes number eight only. Boo.
Speaker: What's up, Dom brand as well. I like that, you know, if you could kind of stash, although it was not the, I kind of, I'm kind of sad that they did that because Dom brand at, at lock was not, you know, there's a lot of trade off there because locks get a point every two yards.
Speaker: Right. And it's like one every eight yards or so for a flanker eight man or something like that. So you're losing out on those kinds of points that you could get on from your lock position, but it's still in a pinch. It was nice to be able to throw Dom in there. Yeah. Yeah. It always was good to have another loose forward that you check into second row. Wasn't anything sad about it. That's for sure.
Speaker: The biggest newcomers, not Saracens, into the league that could really make a huge impact on your squad. You know, I'm thinking... So is it newcomers just brand new to the league or brand new to their team? To the prem.
Speaker: Okay, ready to the prep. So I'm thinking Hastings, Van der Mervas, and the two that come off the top of my head. It's got to be Hastings because that's the 10. Like, Van der Mervas will make an impact, but again, it's Wooster. True. Whereas, you know, Gloucester really fucking needed some 10 play just a little bit last year. Yeah.
Speaker: And now they're going to get it. Right. And they got some young kids who are going to learn from it too, which is even that's that's the knock on impact of that, that I don't think Denver will have it at Worcester. Right. At the at the 10 position, Tommaso Allen's eligible in three spots.
Speaker: Huh? So there's that. That's fucking crazy. Cause he's one of eligible for full back. Yes. Yeah. So that is something, um, we'll see, we'll see how that goes. Right. The, what, what was the, um, what was the one that we both saw? Um, and it's, this is something that you can definitely do. I guess we can talk about, let's talk about this a little bit. Um,
Speaker: when it comes to this format and this scoring, you can go cheap on the forwards. So a guy like Eli Snehman, who last I checked was 100k maybe,
Speaker: He's going to play a little bit for that club. So we'll see. Maybe that's the thing. You don't know. He's a 98 ,000 risk. I'm okay with that. Yeah, but also he could be like an anchor because when you get rid of him and it's not enough to sign the player.
Speaker: So that's, well, you get, you, you toss him overboard when like, all right, I don't need to make any changes this week. And he hasn't done shit away. He goes there. I mean, because you still get to this year. Yeah. So I'm not losing my mind on that one. You still get to. Okay. So yeah, no, you can, you can burn him for one.
Speaker: if you need to. So yeah, I think the risk for that is so low, it's definitely worth it. I would do it all day. Yeah, but in any case,
Speaker: You don't, the position you have to pay for, unfortunately, is backs because there's so few backs that are very consistent. And so you just have to pay for it. Like, Radz and Pyotow were two of the most consistent backs last year, and they cost an arm and a leg both. And you have to, you have to pay for it, unless it's unfortunate. Yeah, so I paid for Pyotow. I have mail -ins. Yeah, I have Pyotow as well.
Speaker: Um, I don't have, I don't have Raja Raja, but I have a lot of changes I need to make anyway, because I just signed some, I wasn't sure if they were going to start.
Speaker: changing, um, the, the, the purchase costs for price for each, but I guess they wouldn't do that till after week one. But I was just in case that they were doing that based on sales. Um, I grabbed some big guys in case they, they started, they went up significantly and I'm going to get rid of that. Yeah. I mean, I have Harold and Smith to start my, my season because they won't be playing early. No, yeah. Smith's not going to do you a whole lot of good. You gotta find another number 10 right now. Um, yeah, I have rats in Pietel.
Speaker: I will have rads. Yeah. A name that is familiar to both you and I that I don't think people will, it'll light up people's eyeballs so much. I love Davies, the scrum half from Saris. Loves to go for a scamper. He does. And is playing on a good team and good team scrum halves generally do well.
Speaker: Well, especially saris who know how to feed that scrum half line because they've had the scrum halves to do it since fucking forever. Mm hmm. That's yeah. Just not just the going for a scoot because he will. But but the finisher. So definitely a big. Yeah, he should. He probably should be on your team. Yeah. And, you know, we talked about pretty cheap, too. He's one sixty seven. Yeah, he should be on your fucking team. Yeah, I'd take him all day. Yeah.
Speaker: And you know, there's some guys that are being held on to you right now that I don't think need to be. The guys that are going to be on forced rest definitely don't unless, you know, you're really just trying. Let's put it this way. I think if you have a stash, you should have one, maybe two. That's it. Don't have one that.
Speaker: I think I'm keeping, I'm going to stash with Tojay just because I want to make sure that I have enough for him right away. And I was like, you know what? I'll just, I'll fucking stash him. Yeah. I have my, my, my big stash that I've gone with is plaudry. Okay. When he's back, he's going to be, what's, what's his, uh, what's he selling for 40 to 42? Oh, that's not terrible. No, the pack, not too bad.
Speaker: Yeah, that's not bad at all. John Luke Dupree is actually expensive this year. Yeah, he is. He's pretty goddamn expensive. It's ridiculous. And Vui too. They both jumped up in price significantly.
Speaker: Let's talk, uh, some of the better buys out there. Then we'll go into the nerdathon over here and then we'll talk about like break up, break up potentials and don't signs as well. And then we'll get into start set. Um, so for, I don't think there's going to be one, I don't think there's going to be a great candidate for every team. Um,
Speaker: Let's see yet now. Yeah, that's not that's not too bad, but it's not great. Wow, right past still fairly cheap 205. Yeah, but he's kind of broken. I know that. I'm just saying like, yeah, when he comes off, he comes back. Yeah, that's one to keep your you know, keep on your watch list. Keep that on there. That's what that's for. See the little the little man over there. Yeah, like him. Yeah, I could see a
Speaker: there's one right there. If he, if he is part of that back row, especially if volatile is resting for a little bit, I'd, I'd see that he's only 136. That's yeah. That's not bad. That's not that. Nope. Not at all. Bristol. Everybody knows about all the ones on Bristol. It's problematic now because the, well, especially in the, in at the hooker position, um,
Speaker: Thacker, yeah, but burn bubbles. Yep. Like that. Yeah. Who knows? Jake Kerr is also there. Yeah. So they have players. So it's not like, um, and Thacker is now only hooker. He's not, he's not flanker eligible. Yeah. And that's a shame. Alfie is still all three. Um, but he's also out for a little bit.
Speaker: He'll be out for a little bit. Exeter, if you're looking for a best, a cheap buy, it's probably somewhere in their forwards. I don't know which one, but there'll be some forward that's not too expensive. That gets a lot of game time and does okay. Maybe, maybe it's the two EMA kid only only played once last year. Well, you think, yeah. Shoot. Where's a,
Speaker: Then the army is only two 14 that could be a value, especially early on. He should be getting a lot of, like he'll, he'll get his time in, uh, six nations, internationals in this period. And maybe Josh Hodge is another one to keep your eyes on. Oh yeah. Definitely. And to capstick. Yeah. She's more time this year. I think he has to. Yeah. He's not even on their first page. Holy shit. Where's capstick?
Speaker: Yeah, he would be other 200 backsters. Yandl is another one. Yeah, especially with LCD out. He's only 189 and he's going to be playing early. So there you go. Capsix 169. OK, damn, that's that's worth it. I think like I think he'll play enough. I don't know. We shall see, I suppose, for for the Glosterman.
Speaker: I did grab Ken Roddy. He's only 133. I'm thinking he might start earlier on in the year. Well, we'll see. Like we said, we've heard that he's impressing people, so that's possible.
Speaker: You never know, right? Some of these teams like went fuck as if we know nothing. None of this news comes over here. So this is like the Ferris Bueller beginning scene. I heard from like through like seven or eight other people that yeah, I don't fucking know. I don't either. Go for karate. I fucking, yeah, support the free Jack. And then, um,
Speaker: with Rhysammit probably getting a forced rest. Carreras, Santiago Carreras could be his stand in. So that's a, and he's fairly cheap. So that's a, that's one of the clamp eyeballs on at, at Quinn's. Here's one I want to throw at you. We know about Kenningham. We know about, you know, we know very much about him. Jack Walker is probably going to be their starting hooker. I don't think, I don't think Joe Gray is going to be at 166.
Speaker: That's that is your that fuck. Well, who do I have a hooker right now? Like McWiggin and Dunn. Yeah, I should get rid of both of them. Maybe not done, but that's easy. Yeah, that's an easy drop. Those two are. Yes, I'm in. And if Nick David gets time, he's at 173 as well. So just keep that in mind. Yeah, that's my problem with Hugh Jones and Tyrone Green are both well over what are under 200 as well. That's astounding. Right.
Speaker: I don't know. Right. That's that's my problem with Quinn's. Like, who do you who do you buy? Because like you could if you have like two or three of that back line, you could be out all of them at one point. That's true. That is true. Because they have options. They have options on options. But they also have some some pretty solid forwards who will be around for a bit. Is Wilco Lowe starting the season with them or is he what's his deal? He's not with South Africa, I don't think.
Speaker: Okay. I wasn't sure if he was still there. He obviously didn't play this weekend, but I just wasn't sure what his deal was. If he's with South Africa, it's unbeknownst to me. Okay. But yeah, between him.
Speaker: There's, yeah, there's some guys you can, like, Levis, obviously, but he's 230. Yeah, that's not bad. That's not bad. That's why I kind of like what they've done. You have to make certain decisions, some tough decisions. You know, you can't make too many easy ones. Nope. Not too many there. Yeah. Lester, who did you see? Bryce Heger, he's 151.
Speaker: So if he starts, if he starts the season there, that'll be, that'll be, yeah, I just wonder about it's like those back, back three play. I don't know. I feel like that's true from every position. They rarely come on right away. Um, that's usually over the course of a couple of weeks once they get some time with the players, but yeah, that's true. Uh, yeah, they'll go with it. I think they'll go with the guys that they, they feel solidly about knowing, you know, knowing they'll do their job all the time and know we can communicate. Montoya is not bad to 20.
Speaker: And of the two hookers, he's better, in my opinion. Well, that's one reason that they kind of, for the team, Ben Youngs could not be the captain because... Me and Tom Youngs. I'm sorry, Tom Youngs. Well, one or the other. Yeah, definitely not Ben Youngs either, but... Tom Youngs couldn't be the captain because, yeah, I think Montoya is so much a better hooker for that team. And, yeah, Tom's not getting any younger. And, yeah, I could absolutely see Montoya just owning that for a while.
Speaker: Yep, same. To the exiles, Curtis Rona is 211. And he was pretty solid from the majority of the year. Some dips, but I would totally pay for that. Oh, yeah. Just as a, where was it? Oh, not so much him. I was thinking, but Ben Loader. Loader, also good. He's 203.
Speaker: Right. So, so think about it this way. So just a sneak preview of a few minutes from now, Ben Loader, he averaged 17 .7 points a start last year. I'll break it down and look into that in a second. His last five starts though, he averaged 33.
Speaker: So like he went from to crushing it towards the end. So he's someone who, like, yeah, cause well, I think he had to step up cause people were working on shutting down Ollie Hassell Collins, freed up a lot of space for him and he took advantage. Yeah, I mean, yeah. He's only two or three. Yeah. And he's winging pullback eligible. Yeah. Need to find more of those around. So yeah.
Speaker: Um, going up to the North, um, a name that's not always going to jump off the page, but is solid, not expensive and plays most games is Brett Connan. And he thought I happen to pull back eligible. And again, I'm not trying to say he's going to be otherworldly, but you know, when you have your sheeties, your ferrules, your Smiths all the way.
Speaker: You need something to go in there, your biggers, all that. You need something in there depending on who he's playing as well. So let me just throw that in there as well. But you know what? Yeah, it does matter who he's playing because I get it right. Yeah, he...
Speaker: So according to my calculations, he, uh, scored the average of every team he played. Like if they, if you have a team that's given up 23 or fullbacks, that's, that's the score he got. That's crazy. Um, and he also scored the, uh, he was point one points above the position average each week. So if your average fly half or 15 got like a 15, he got like a 15 .1 average, like he's your average, literally your average fly half. Um,
Speaker: You can't really depends on the day. Yeah, entirely depends on the day. It's really on that one, but exactly average. Yeah. Obviously with Newcastle, we're going to plug our guy Greg Peterson. He played on a man's last year and rarely ever came off the field and usually scored fairly well. So not amazingly, but again,
Speaker: you know, forwards can score bigger numbers, easier to say the least, just the way the points go. Well, because it's it's tackles, you know, you get that that five tackle, or, you know, plus five tackles without missing one. Bonus point, that's totally, that's huge. So backs don't generally get that. No.
Speaker: Um, to the saints, uh, Dave ribbons is highly owned right now, but I do want to remind people he's going to be suspended, I think for one more game. So, uh, just keep your eyes peeled. Maybe I got that wrong on my calculations are way off, but I think he's got one more game, uh, to go.
Speaker: Uh, at the hooker position, when there's plenty of them to go around, say I'm out of AC was definitely a value last year. And I don't think there's a reason that's going to change. So I, I, I have him in my team. I I'm, I'm looking forward to having him for a good chunk of the year at the very least. Um, we do know that this team is for whatever reason, good about finding scrum hats that can score.
Speaker: So if Alex Mitchell's say away with England as he has been in the past, even though he didn't fucking set foot on the field, a guy like Lomani or Tom James should be somebody that's in the back of your brain. Yeah, just like we were the same thing as we were talking about with the Sarries. The Saints are another team that know how to use their scrum half once they break the line. So and Lomani will do just OK there. Yeah, I can't imagine why.
Speaker: And then we talked about cheap and expensive and not so expensive forward genre Augustus. Only problem with Augustus is he's an eight only, which if you're gonna pick an eight only, I'm not sure that's the guy, but it's not too expensive. At least it's 192. So there's that there's the upside there. So, you know, balance play with it what you will.
Speaker: we'll see, uh, laws is also highly owned, but he's going to have, he's going to be a force for us to start. So just keep that in mind. I'm not sure that's somebody I want to have weighing down my team.
Speaker: Love the guy, but I'm just not sure. Not really. What is wrong with people? What is wrong with people? Sales sharks. Why is FAFTA clerk going that highly? 7 % should be, is not even close to where, like, one or zero. Like, he doesn't do it. And he's away right now with South Africa. So...
Speaker: Oh, man. Come on, folks. If you've been listening to this, you are smarter than the average bear, I hope. Yeah, maybe we made you dumber, but that doesn't score well. So it doesn't. Yeah, I not. I'm not into that at all. No.
Speaker: But on the good side, Bevin Rod was a good value last year, and he's only 159 at prop. And that's a hard position to find a good score at. So when you find it, you don't let it go. And, you know, he's still fairly cheap. He's young. So yes, he's going to be rotated now. I try and carry
Speaker: at least four props, if not five. You know, it's hard to not do that. And then you just have to find some, you have to find some versatility in other positions because, yeah, it's one of those things, you know, you have fly half, scrum halves, hookers and props, right, all of which are, you know, usually one particular player. So you got to, you know, stack as much as you can.
Speaker: Right. Like, yeah, I went with some, some guys like Ollie Hoskins is not only he's going to play, but he'll, he will get points from the bench. Um, so he'll play almost every match. So he's worth having a team, you know, JTA guys like that. Seven rods on there too. I have him on my team because he's, he's also quite cheap. Um, but I assume Senator, he seemed Sanderson seemed to like him a lot. So he did.
Speaker: I agree. I agree. I agree to the point where they got rid of their, their, their direct, their other stuff at prop and kind of brought in a little bit of new blood elsewhere. Yeah. I decided elsewhere. I think Rod is their guy or his guy anyway. I agree. I agree. Uh, two series, um, one 40, one Rata Rata, Timmy Shagan.
Speaker: You know, he doesn't play every match because they rotate those wings out. But man, when he does, he scores so well. I had him two years ago and I was not sad about it a single minute. I can't wait to see Ben Earl and Max Maylands with this team. Yes. They're going to be very awesome.
Speaker: Like I kind of forgot what we were watching the champions and, um, you know, obviously they're, you know, there's, there's other guys too, but, um, just the pace and the, the extra that those guys are going to bring then, then they hadn't in the champ in the championship. I am.
Speaker: It's going to be fun. Yeah. Is he way back to like not having crews and not having, Oh, he's only two 19. Yeah. He's, he's cheaper than he was. He was like in the two forties, two fifties last year. So this is more purpose. Yep. Super probes. Yeah. I have, I do have Nicholas Equay. Um, especially since tomorrow he's going to be the fill in tomorrow. Yeah. And it's not like the drop offs huge. Right.
Speaker: So, I have no problem having Nikasikwe in my team. You know, he's going to be back in a shirt. He's comfortable and not that he wasn't comfortable in the same shirt. We saw him put in many good performances. This is going to be, you know, more familiar territory to him and a lot of the same bodies that are around him. I think he's just going to go up a little bit and that should be more than enough to be an adequate addition to a team, even at 219.
Speaker: It still isn't that much. So a lot of guys rate too high on this list for, for saris. Um, Billy Vunapola do not do. Yeah. We'll talk about those later, but yeah, no, no, no, no, no, that's shit. None of that shit at all. Yeah. Stay away. Uh, was it's there on the by this, this week. So going to jumping in to grab too many of them isn't necessarily the smartest thing to do. I did.
Speaker: Um, grab Ali cross tail. Cause he's one 12. Okay. And JTA, as I was saying before, he's going to be their tight head and he was kicking ass at the end of last year. So right. Right, right, right. Um, just going to the list. Um, the Willis brothers both should be decent values. Hopefully we see Jack sooner rather than later. I hope we see Jack soon.
Speaker: Yeah, same. This is not Fekitoa's thing, this format. So just, you know, we'll talk about guys that are maybe a little bit on the list. Fafita might be worth the play. I got to see if... he's a wait and see for me. So we're going to have to wait until at least week two to see what's going on with that. He is a wait and see for me.
Speaker: I think he'll be good, but I just don't know. You know, I have no reason to believe he won't be worthy of the points that are put on offer, but just, you know, that and then who guard is, is he going to play or isn't he? When England's playing, yes. Yeah, exactly. Other than that, I don't know. I don't, I don't know. I just, can you play 13? Jesus, I might as well try it. He's big.
Speaker: He's played wing before. So there's that. Yeah. I'm just saying is all, I'm not sure what to do about him and Robson. You can't cause fuck what you, who guard is as much as you wanted him on your team. He's just like practically unsignable.
Speaker: Yeah, it's really hard. It's like, even when they're, even when Robson's away, he's almost on signable at two 76. That's a decent bit of coin. Yeah. Yeah. And Robson at two 64 with who guard, you know, they could switch off every week that you're going to have a, a Bristol situation here. And man, I loved having him last year and now I'm worried about signing him. So I didn't, I felt bad about that. Um, what do you think of Umaga this year?
Speaker: What's the what's the eligible at this year? Fly half center fullback. That might make him valuable enough to be in a team.
Speaker: I have to see more though, honestly. Let me see what his. At the end of the year, he got better, but yeah, somewhere start to middle. He was a whole lot of woo. Oh yeah. Like his, his average was 18 .6 points a game. His last, his last five were two or 21. So, okay. So he was also well below both the, uh,
Speaker: Um, average points in the opponent, average points. So he kind of, yeah, he had a rough year. It's hard to. Yeah. He's he'll be a wait and see. Unfortunately, I love the kid, but go see it first. Unfortunately to everybody's anticipated bottom of the bottom of the shelf. Um, well, sir, some good signings. I, I would sign Scott Baldwin myself. I would not. I don't mind it.
Speaker: He's going to play hooker almost every week. But he's not good. But he scores fine. He actually kind of doesn't. Let me see. Hold on a sec. Let's see. What is he? It's 220. Let me find Scott Baldwin. There he is.
Speaker: So he's actually in the negatives. He's negative 3 .4 for position average and negative 3 .2 for points against average. So he underwhelms compared to your average hooker. Right. So here's the fact that - And he's 220. Right, but here's the fact that goes right ahead is, you can sign,
Speaker: You have to have somebody that plays a hooker every week. And he is going to probably every week, if not close to it. I see. I think Annette is the better hooker. No, Annette's done. He's seen better days. He's younger than Baldwin.
Speaker: Is he? Yeah. He's this. Well, I just don't see it though. Baldwin's 33. Well, at least Baldwin's seen the international stage. He's got some international quality in him. And that's just been wallowing in, you know, I'm sorry, Worcester, any Worcester fans out there? Sorry. He's been wallowing in Worcester for the last like five years. I mean, look, if their coaches use fantasy rugby as a guide, Annette is a better hooker.
Speaker: Yeah, but I'm not sure that's going to happen. You don't sign Scott Baldwin and have him fucking go over the pine. That's you know, that's the that's the other thing. They do have two new halfbacks as well. Willie Hines and Will Chudley. Hines probably not a bad pick, depending on how Eddie Jones is feeling about him. Yeah. I also wonder if he's up because he seemed to even be a kind of a part time player for Gloucester. I'm not sure that he's
Speaker: and every week scrum half anymore. That's my caution there is that he could be rotating around with him, Chudley, and they're going to want Gareth Simpson to get a look as the young guy. So I'm guessing it's going to be Heinz and Chudley alternating week. Might be true, yeah. Starting with Gareth Simpson, and maybe not one and one, but
Speaker: essentially alternating, but neither will get more than like 12 starts probably with God Simpson on the bench if I'm starting. All right. That's my, that's my look at that. Wooster's that scrum heaveries. Um, so pick a, pick a Worcester prop Waller or Southern one. Waller. Yeah. Same. Waller Waller will not leave.
Speaker: Um, he has no rest to worry about and he scores really well from the bench. Yeah. Yeah. He's again, we talked about this being a top position to find good scores and two Oh eight, you know, not quite top of the price range, not super cheap, but still definitely worth, you know, definitely worth the pick. It's worth it.
Speaker: Oh man. What, so which position does Sutherland play? Is he a tight head or a loose head? I think he's a tight head. Okay. So he and Waller can, can play at the same time. Yeah. That will definitely screw it up. Let me give me one second here. No, that's not what I want. Damn it. That's probably bullshit that's coming up. Go away.
Speaker: Let's see. Here we go. It's the kind of prep work you get from us sometimes. Yeah. Sorry about that. Oh man. Um, yeah, we know he played there. Fuck off. Yeah. I feel like he's a, I feel like he's a tight head, but I probably got that totally wrong. Honestly. Oh shit. It doesn't. Yes. Shit. Usually it says on their Wikipedia, but it doesn't say here. It doesn't help. I just do, do, do, do. Oh, he's a loose. Oh shit. No, he's a loose head.
Speaker: Oh, fuck. Okay. So that could be a problem. Yeah, that's got some problematic problem. Yeah, that kind of fucks that. Yeah, we'll see. What are Worcester doing when there are other they needed a tight head. Yeah, they let short leave. I was like, right. You're doing judges there. I guess judge is going to play a lot now. I like don't get me wrong. I love judge. Love them. Obviously, he's been decent Saracens.
Speaker: I don't know that he's, I think he's more of your backup right now.
Speaker: Well, I think they're too tight heads right now or him and Owlet. And that's problematic in my opinion. That is problematic. And then, you know, as far as our back line goes, I need to see it because I think Finn Smith's going to play 10. And that's, or Searle and Searle is fading quickly here. So, you know, he's only 25, but man, I just haven't seen a whole lot. He was playing well till he sliced, got his fucking leg sliced open.
Speaker: Yeah, that's true. That was pretty good. He was doing really well. That was gruesome. Yeah, that was not fun. Yeah. But either way, I don't know what's going to happen at that 10 position. Weir was a little bit more steady there. So at least I could... Do you think Owen Williams is going to make any impact there? I don't know. I don't believe it at this point. Another one I need to see it from.
Speaker: Right. Oh, I'm not disagreeing. Yeah. Just making sure he gets named because I think he's going to get like, I think it's probably Searle than him. Yeah, true. Let's do, let's do like three minutes of your geek ship here.
Speaker: Okay. So here's what I've been working on in this off season is, uh, and it's going to be something for our patch patreon, which is going to hopefully give you some insight of beyond what you can see just on the, um, here on websites and FRD. I'm assuming they pull that out of the rest. Yeah. I'll have to, I have, I've only set this up for TRM so far, but it's really easy to switch over to FR, uh, to FRD too. Um,
Speaker: So I, you know, there are certain players and it got me thinking cause I was looking up, say it was a Tommy Taylor. Um, from sale, from sale. Well, for, for what formerly it was. Yep. Right. Cause I was looking and he was, you know, pretty well owned and scoring pretty well. And I look at him like, you know what?
Speaker: A lot of his points come from the bench. Are you really going to, there's certain guys who you maybe like the Ethan Mahler, as we were saying, or Ollie Hoskins. You might start even when they're on the bench. Um, Tommy Taylor really isn't that guy, right? So it's like, you see him and Tom West, same team, same thing. So, so Tommy Taylor.
Speaker: might have scored fairly well. He had like almost 300 points on the season, but only 51 % were when he was starting. So he started nine times and scored 150 points. He averaged 16 .7 points when he started. Is that guy you want?
Speaker: Probably not. You know, and then I was like, okay, well, you know, they do point say, um, but this, you know, you don't really, you can do that kind of math in your head if you look at the site, but you have to do a lot of math and I've automated that here for you. So this is what I'm trying to, to help, you know, with your lineup. Um, and his last five matches were at 19 .2 points. So it's not like he's, you know, hooker should be a fairly good scoring position too. That's the thing.
Speaker: Right so 1616 you know set averaging 17 points a match not good and even you know the slight improvement of 19 .2 in your last five is not that's not start worthy, even if he's he's cheap. And same thing like I was saying for for West, who should be here somewhere, but I can't find them when you search for him.
Speaker: Tom West Tom West. Yeah, he had 100 and so he had over 300 points, but he had 113 from the bench.
Speaker: And he only had, yeah, he had 65 % of his points were from the start. And he averaged 15 points a game. So it's like when he started. So it's like, yeah, is that a guy you really want to rely on? And again, and then I was like, okay, the points versus position average, how does he score in relative to other props?
Speaker: And Wes does like a 1 .3. So depending on how expensive he is, you're going to get much less value than you could for another prop. And against the points against his or the opposition, he was 1 .2. So for every average point given up, he scored 1 .2. That's not really a huge boost from your position. You want to see more than that. So yeah, I kind of wanted to be able to break this down to see,
Speaker: who you actually really want. Because just because you see a guy scored a ton of points doesn't mean they call it garbage time for a reason in fantasy football. There's a lot of guys who score garbage time points, which is I would say off the bench, that make their starting stats look better. So I'm hoping to put this together, not only give people a little bit more
Speaker: data to work with so that they can make better educated decisions rather than just kind of going by. There's a couple of good stats on the TRM website, but I don't really pay attention to most of them because they don't really tell me anything. They don't speak to me. They don't help out. In certain ways, yeah. I don't really care. Points per minute is not that big a thing to me because it's like,
Speaker: points per 80. Yeah, points per 80 thing. If you come on five minutes. Yeah, there's definitely some guys that are like high on that. And you're like, I don't know if I trust that. That doesn't seem like a good statistic for me. Yeah. And like, yeah, points per... So there's
Speaker: And minutes overall doesn't tell you much because if he comes on off the bench every match, he could rack up a bunch of minutes too that some semi -starters don't get. And again, off the bench, you're probably not going to even put them on your team, likely. You might have them on your bench, but you're not going to start them. So this is more of a, I want to make a decision about
Speaker: about players who I will start regularly and how to make those decisions. It's good for, I think for both leagues to understand that kind of stuff. And there's not much advanced statistics on FRD really. So I'm hoping you guys are interested in that. I'll put together some sort of freebie, look at this. If I can get up a page this week, I'll try to throw something up. The idea is we'll also have
Speaker: You'll have access to this data, also the team data. You'll see Jared and I will sometimes, when we do our starts and sets on Fridays, every so often the points against for team defense. But I've got my head out of my ass. Right. That gets posted. But I think we're only going to reserve that for the Patreon and some others. We'll do some attacking stats, like a bunch of team statistics, too, similar to this.
Speaker: Yeah. All right. We're going to skip over the do not sign. If you really have a question about do not sign, hit us up. Yeah, and we will. Yeah, we will. But I think we have a pretty good grasp over all, even in the preview there of guys to just not do it. Right. Don't do it. There's quite a few more. But yeah, there's quite a few. So with that,
Speaker: you know, by position and starting and whatnot. So.
Speaker: Let's go right over to that thing that everybody's probably on this for, and that is the starts and the sits. Also that. There'll be a few of those always. It's Friday night. I'll kick us off. Bristol and Saracens.
Speaker: So obviously, Saracens weren't in the league last year, but still you kind of have an idea of what's going on. Hookers are a problem against Saracens usually because their line of defense is actually pretty good. And that's usually where hookers make their bones. So Thacker bubbles me.
Speaker: But with that, you got to start Chuck and you got to start the halfbacks, whether it's Randall or Yaron. Those are guys that I have no problem starting with. The forwards are the players that usually don't quite get it done against the Saracens. It's the backs that usually make their money there. Against the Bears, I would say,
Speaker: A guy that we highlighted before, Rhett Timmy -Shagan, if he is in the lineup, I would absolutely play him. Alternatively, Shawn Maitland's usually a quality start out there, although he's better in FRD if we ever get that going. But usually not terrible. I do like him though, but Roddy is the better player in terms of this. Aled Davies is another one that we put the highlight on, fairly cheap.
Speaker: I bet you that it's a good contrarian play for a lot of people that are playing guys like urine, like Randall, Danny care being another one. He'll get your points. I can almost promise because he loves to go for a scoot and he's on that line. So that's somebody I would definitely play for the men in black.
Speaker: Alternatively, I love the, I love the guy. I love the player, but the fantasy value is never there for him. And that's Jackson Ray. Um, he's just, he's a wonderful player and he works his ass off of this team and I could not love him more. But as far as the fantasy asset goes, he is somebody I would not even come close to. So don't play him. That's the end of that.
Speaker: Onto Lester versus Exeter. Except I have an easy cheering for rooting interest this match, which with Lester, that's easy. So looking back at their points over opposition position last season, that's how I'm going to do this just for now, because we don't know shit about who's playing. No, we don't know shit about fuck.
Speaker: As we mentioned, Genge was the best 21 points over eight starts. So that's a pretty significant sample size there. So yeah, you should probably, I want to make them on your, put them on your team. Especially against a team like Exeter, who are weak fantasy wise against props. So that's an excellent matchup for him. And Julio Montoya, who was 14 points over the opposition average. So again,
Speaker: Even the facts that are don't give up too much, he's going to get 14 points over that averaging. If he, if he maintains his style over last year, uh, George Ford was eight and a half, but he only played five matches, but he was still up eight and a half. That's pretty fucking good. I have to, I have to say that he's coming out.
Speaker: And Honro Liebenberg, oddly enough, 6 .7 for 16 matches. So that's a very solid sample size. The dude will get you more points than the average for the defense they're playing, or other team. So yeah, I'd start in Montoya, Liebenberg, and Ndolo, and the other guy, Gensh. Yep, not bad. Maybe.
Speaker: For Exeter, their best were Johnny Gray, who was 18, but only played four matches. Sam Simmons, as he said, was 11. Sam Skinner was eight and a half over 16. I think he's got another match or two.
Speaker: Okay um and then uh oh yeah because wait you got suspended right? Yeah you got suspended against sale. Oh yeah um and Joe Simmons was only 1 .6 over for 20 starts. Interesting. So for most and that's you know whatever position whichever position he played I didn't really just break that down just mostly played 10 I think. Oh that's right you could just play him at 15 um
Speaker: So, yeah, not not much better than your average fly half. Nope. Something to think about. And Jack Monder was negative two and a half. Seventeen matches. So, yeah, no Skinner, but start Joe Simmons and DeVoto and Slade were both in the fours or close to it. So go with those guys. They should score well. I just don't know what they're going to have in the forwards. Exeter. So same.
Speaker: Yeah, but you know, we're not going to recommend their seven likely unless it's capstick. Same. Yeah, definitely. Northampton and Gloucester. Once the darlings of both Ben and I. We'll see if they come back to fruition. For Northampton, I spoke glowingly of him before and I'm not going to stop now. Sam out of AC.
Speaker: Love the kid. Great, great at the price and definitely worth it because he will score and he'll usually score pretty well. And Gloucester weren't created against hookers last year. So another one. Ollie Sladeholm, the speedster out on the wing. Not that Gloucester weren't bad against back three, but they were worse against wings. So that was and that's usually where he plays. So I would look for that man if he's in the lineup.
Speaker: Ribbons, I think, is still suspended, and he's very highly owned. Also, Gloucester do well against second rows. So there's that as well. So keep your eye on that one for the Gloucester man.
Speaker: LRZ's out, so Thorly's got to be in. So give him a go. Right. I like him. Yes, he's wing. He's only wing eligible. It'll be worth it, I promise. I see good things. Another guy that that's a new addition this year that came in, Adam Hastings, I think is going to definitely be worth the play in the class. I hadn't heard of him. So I think he'll be worth it. And we another guy we mentioned just might be slowing down in age and whatnot. And I love the guy, but Billy 12 trees, probably not your favorite.
Speaker: Northampton also weren't too bad against centers last year, especially if Francis and Hutch were in there. That was a problem placed to try and find points. So I would just get away from that if you can. On to this will be a fucking cracker of a match Worcester versus London Irish.
Speaker: So Worcester's best points against opposition position who guard, who was departed, who had a point nine points over.
Speaker: opposition average, um, Tom, how only four matches, but 8 .4 over and he, he dominated. It's not like he had one great match. He was fucking consistent with it too. Every time he played, he scored. Not sure why they stopped playing him because that was their one problem with scoring. Um, Ollie Lawrence was, was 7 .2 over for in six starts. Um, Ethan Waller, 5 .2 over in 14 and Francois Venter 4 .4 over in 13. So yeah.
Speaker: I like Waller. Obviously, he's going to be playing now in the first match, but yeah, I'm not sure what to do with him later in the. The other one will be unrest because he was online. So right. So Waller will play, but who knows how long that will last. As I said earlier, Annette over Baldwin.
Speaker: I would start Annette. I would not start Baldwin. Heinz is likely to start. Lawrence, Venter, and Howe, if he's playing. For the Irish, Ollie Hoskins was 14 .7 over. Steve Moffy, I didn't say how many starts he got. Moffy was 6 .9 for eight. Parton was five over 12 starts, which is really good considering how young he was and took him a little bit to really bust out. But once he did, fucking yeah.
Speaker: And Ali Hassan Collins was was 4 .7 over for 18, which that's only five points over average. You know, each match, it's that's that's decent, but
Speaker: I think there's better out there, so that's that's something to. As I mentioned before, Ben Loader was awesome in his last five plus. Rob Simmons was minus six and seven and negative position average and seven against the opposition position average, so. I would say start Hoskins, maybe even from the bench. He's one of those guys who can come on and get 30 points.
Speaker: And plus you might start a public it's 15 and Hoskins is likely to get 15, even if that's kind of the floor. Um, mafia, I think I mentioned creepy, but creamy mafia, Matt, Robinson, uh, Rona, OHC, loader, pardon, go, go. They may go.
Speaker: Go, go, go. Sail and Bath. We'll try to make this quick. Sail are missing their usual nine, so their current nine I would absolutely pick, and that's Raffy Quare. It was amazing when he played. He was. So I'd give that a go.
Speaker: Langdon, Acker, Taylor, I'm actually okay with this week. Bath weren't very good against bookers last year. So that's probably an okay play, especially Acker or Langdon. They were both quite good. Yeah. Not so much Taylor. We just... Yeah. Right. As we talked about. If I have not named AJ, don't blame. Yeah. No, forget it.
Speaker: As we were doing that, Robert Dupria, negative 7 .7, negative 7 .4 position average. So, yeah, no, they'll put him away. That'd be a no. For Bath, Underhill, you played really well when you finally got back into the lineup.
Speaker: I would give him a go even against this is this is a place that you can make your bones against sale sale are a good defense but in the forwards you can do something at least so you have a shot uh obano or stewart i'm not going to say no they were actually not great against props last year if i remember correctly so and stewart is ridiculous he's one of the top um top players in points over position of the opposition average and average so yeah stewart
Speaker: Good game. And the one position that sale usually eight last year was probably Bass most important addition this year, which is Cipriani. So unfortunately I am going to have to recommend DC have a pine this week. Uh, yep. Not, not the best time to roll that one out this week.
Speaker: And then Newcastle versus the Quinn's. Newcastle are offering themselves up as the honorary sacrifice for the Quinn's Championship repeat. They do have to go up north, though.
Speaker: That's true. It should be tough, but fuck, as we mentioned, Newcastle don't have much between 8 and 11. Yeah, it says at that point Adam Radwan was their best. Matteo Carreras was also really good, but he only started 4, which is problematic.
Speaker: McWiggin, very good, over 3 .7, over 15. So good solid guy, especially for the value. You're going to get decent points. VanderWalt and Sean Robinson were also pretty fairly valuable for their... Yeah, Mike Robinson.
Speaker: Mickey young and Connor color were even at zeros. So it wasn't just kind of call it. It was there. It was Mickey young and him. Um, and Louis Schruder was negative six over nine starts. So no. Yeah, sure. It's not. Yeah. I thought sure it was better than he was. I thought sure it was better than he is my fault. Might've given that advice to you last year. Um, so really their only starters are McGuigan, uh, Greg Peterson, uh, and Sean Robinson, those guys, cause they'll get decent, uh, line outs potentially. Um, Philip Vanderwalt.
Speaker: He'll get tackles because he's going to be a host. Mike Brown should be your starter. You can find room for him if you can this week. On to the Harlequins, who just have a ridiculous number of players. Danny Kerr and Marcus Smith were both over 10, so 10 points above average each week. Fuck that.
Speaker: Joe Marchant 9 .3, Luke Northmore was 8 .4, and Stefan Lewis was 8 over, which is huge from a lock. So start Jack Walker. Yeah.
Speaker: Stephan Luis, Dom Brandt, Kenningham, Marchant Green, Linah, and Nick David. I'm going to hold off on Tommy Allen because he will guide them, but it's not going to click right away. Just see where it translates to. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: I don't know what's going to translate to start of the week. Okay. So, um, we've talked about a lot of flares that play this mission high in quality. Um, this guy is playing Simmons week one. No, I wouldn't anyway. I wouldn't even, I wouldn't anyway. Um, this was one of the, he's going against one of the worst teams overall and fantasy wise, definitely one of the worst teams against his position last year. Um, and he's such a high quality player and I, and I do love
Speaker: I really like the guy as a, as an asset to a team that I have some mixed feelings about. So my week, my week one start of the week for the prem is London Irish hooker Gus Creeby. That's a good one. I like it a lot. I was worried that we were going to go with the same
Speaker: same player because I kind of had was going to give the same kind of speech. But I was also talking about this fellow quite a bit tonight. I haven't talked a lot about this.
Speaker: Right. But I talked about Alice Genge quite a bit and for good reason. As I said, Exeter give up points to props and Genge is the best scoring prop who will play quite a lot unless he gets a deserved call up. But I don't know. So I think you should be on your team. Yeah. I think they made him captain. Probably I don't know that they would have made him captain if they knew he was going away for
Speaker: Um, never know, right? Yeah, but yeah, he's so worthy of being careful. Although he deserves it, but I'm just, I like seeing him play at the prem. Right.
Speaker: Yeah, agreed. So my sit is going to be one of the more unpopular ones this week. Thank you. Top position to be playing against. He's been away from rugby for a little while, and I love the guy, but the team he's playing is not nice generally to this position. And I think they're going to be a little bit of fire underneath them from last year because they ended the season a little bit on a down.
Speaker: Um, so my, so the week for a week, one of the premise is baffle. I have days, everybody.
Speaker: Yeah, that's not going to be fun for him. I don't I'm sorry. Sorry, DC. I wish it was better. Yeah, it's not not a welcome back that you want to see. No, I'm sticking with the theme of a new signing of a 10 as a sit. I'm going with Tommy Allen. Yeah, like I love the guy. Never. You know, if you've if you've paid and paying attention, I've always had good things to say about him. In this case, it's
Speaker: Yeah, it's not a good situation. And his team will carry him, but I don't think he will get the benefit of the points. No, unfortunately not. Probably not. All right. Pick him. You're going to finally want to pick him. Yes, I would have, if not for like the last two weeks. I think I'm 3 -0 against you. Whatever. We'll find out. It's a long way from here in June. All right.
Speaker: Friday night, Bristol and series. Oh, there's so much around this match Bristol. I think I'm here with Bristol. Same. I believe there's going to be a lot missing from the Saracens. I don't think they can get the job done. I still hope they do. But I think the favorite, the favorite goes to Bristol at this point.
Speaker: There's blood in the water for Bristol because of that. They're not missing many guys. And Saris are. And this is like, you're never going to get a better chance to beat Saris than this right here. So, yeah. Lester Exeter. Lester. Yeah, I'm going with Tigers.
Speaker: Cause again, Exeter or, or Sam Simmons lists. What do they got? They, they looked pretty shit without him. I think that was against the Lester team and there wasn't even Lester's like a side. So, um, or it was like a D powered team. If I remember correctly, but damn, I, yeah, I like Lester here, especially at home. I agree. I agree. Um, Northampton and Gloucester at the gardens saints. Cause they're at home. Same.
Speaker: I like the Gloucester team. The Saints are also like, they're kind of returning starters better than Gloucester are. So we'll start Irish at six ways. Irish. Same. Yep. I just, I think the Irish have enough to get done. Got a lot of quality in there. Both teams do. I think Westerners is going to take a little bit off the gel. That's not a problem.
Speaker: Right, exactly. That's good. And two months not going to be playing yet. So there's a yeah, there's a lot that that Worcester are going to weathering this early storm before they can really give it a shot. Sail Bath at the A .J. Bell. Sail. Yeah. Oh, wait. Is A .J. there, though? I don't know. I don't know if he's going to be available. What's the problem? Then switch mine to Bath.
Speaker: I don't think that doesn't change the Cipriani situation, but sales have nothing without AJ, as we saw. I'm going to stick with my pick and sale, AJ Bowles. I think that they're improved enough. I think AJ Bowles is going to be rocking just enough for Sanderson's Club to get done.
Speaker: Yeah, up to the north, Newcastle and Quinn's. Quinn's. Yeah, defending champs hold on to it. Their replacement 10 does the job. I think that's all you can ask for if I were Tommy Allen. Right. So, there you go. Yeah, I think they could probably play there like
Speaker: 1A team and still kind of run with this, which they kind of might. Yeah. Ah, maybe, maybe. Although I'm hoping to see more from the Falcons this year. I really want to see, like, I do too. Conan's not old. These guys, these are young guys, you know, as much as we're, we're crapping on them for fantasy reasons. Um, that's just fantasy. Like there's, there's, you know, if we start seeing it, we're just judging by what we have seen.
Speaker: So let's see what we do see. Well, there we are. Um, so hopefully everybody enjoyed this second episode for, um, of the week for new fantasy lovers out there. Um, fancy rugby podcast at gmail .com, uh, hit Ben or Ben or I up on Twitter. We will be doing, um, starts and sets on Friday, uh, fingers. For all you folks that are out there, our champions leagues member waiting on FRD whenever they open it up.
Speaker: Hopefully they do. We will start setting draft stuff. So it sounds like we're gonna skip this week. Not a big deal. We've got a lot of weeks to play. So there could be worse. We've got two extra weeks this year, remember? Or at least a couple. Yeah, 24 weeks now, yeah. So there you go. At least that. And I'll have stuff up for the Patreon at some point. Hopefully I beat the league starting.
Speaker: Yeah, if you can beat FRD. But at the same time, we're not going to need it. Yeah, you shouldn't need it for this. For week one, don't get cute. Week one, don't get too cute and you'll be OK. But yeah, we think we appreciate you guys hanging out with us. Buy Georgia coffee, get your tea on our upgrades. Other than that, we will catch you guys next week. If not, ask Tea Fry on Friday as well so we can start that discussion again. Dammit, my words don't like me today. But thanks for hanging, guys. We'll catch you guys next week. Have a good one. Later. Cheers.
