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Season 2- Episode 41- The Undeserved Curtain on Aotearoa (Premiership Round 14, Super Rugby Aotearoa Round 10 & Super Rugby AU Round 7)
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It's the latest styling from those American rugby dopes. It's another lengthy one, but no worries it'll get trimmed down after this week. Sit back as we cover a host of topics this week including; the South African response to Black Lives Matter, the really not so big bang of an ending that we deserved for Super Rugby Aotearoa as good as it was, the week's action in Super Rugby AU including a mammoth effort from the Red's on defense, and YES we have Premiership rugby to talk about. Yes it was ugly in so many aspects, but more rugby back is something we are all happy with I believe. Of course, we dive into start or sit for the coming round's action in fantasy.
Ask us questions via Twitter: Jarrod- jdyke8man & Ben- admrablsnackbar. Send us your thoughts for the show and questions for upcoming shows via e-mail fantasyrugbypodcast@gmail.com. Of course we welcome feedback via e-mail, twitter or by rating/reviewing the pod on Apple Podcast. Once again, we are back at with the #AskTFRY Friday's on twitter before the kickoff of the first match of the weekend in the Premiership.
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Transcript
Return to Rugby: Post-Lockdown Reflections
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back to this with Nancy Irvian. My name is Jared Dike. I'm Ben Glaser. We're in, uh, big weekend, first partnership weekend back since, uh, since the lockdown. And, uh, it was kind of, you know, uh, deja vu from, yeah, a little first week jitters from everybody. Um, the, the, yeah, from everybody on the pitch, from the, yeah, the players to the referees to,
00:00:36
Speaker
Yeah. Nobody's sure. Nobody's sure. Nobody really had a great weekend. No. Well, except for, you know, several players like Silly and Jeff Bassett who... I was thinking just Gloucester in general. Gloucester in general. Yeah. All right. I have not tried this beer, so let's fucking do it. Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready.
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Rugby Mag Subscriptions: Why Upgrade?
00:01:37
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00:01:49
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Live Sports Return: Rugby vs Other Sports
00:02:10
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So yeah, you're gonna wanna, you're not gonna be wanting to scramble all the way until two,
00:02:16
Speaker
that quarter of hour there. That's not going to go well. I promise you. It was so nice. Can I just be happy to have live sports like that back? It's so different with like, I don't know. I'm not a huge hockey fan. I like it.
00:02:34
Speaker
And it's it's being played in Canada. So
Football Season: Is a Bubble Necessary?
00:02:36
Speaker
it's cool. But like I'm not following the baseball season doesn't matter. It's all God are so terrible to Phillies are terrible. So neither of us really care about It's also care about one baseball player. That's it
00:02:51
Speaker
Yeah, and how long is it gonna last realistically? And the football season is gonna, no, we're not, let's be honest, it's not gonna happen. Unless they do the bubble thing. Yeah, I don't see them do it. I don't see it going well. There's too many players, there's too many people involved. And first time, whatever, I mean, college especially, but the first time a big guy,
00:03:14
Speaker
gets COVID and gets really, really sick from it. And I hope this doesn't happen. I'm not wishing this on anybody, trust me. No, but it's going to happen. I'm just saying like this, this is a high probability of happening. Big guy gets sick, potentially comes close to ending his, having his life ended because of COVID. This whole thing's going to be fucked. So yeah, good luck.
Fantasy Rugby League: New Season Promos
00:03:34
Speaker
Good luck to all you out there. So yeah, get your TRM upgrades, check them out. If you're not playing,
00:03:40
Speaker
On the revenue magazine what the hell's wrong with you? Yeah, let's go. Let's go great game. Great. So, you know get on it also those of you that are in our Ruby Mag League remember we are throwing up our Champions League spots for the next rugby season where we'll play three revenue mag variations and three frd variations in one league When a winner will probably buy them will probably have some nice t-shirts available. So we'll probably send you a nice t-shirt also
00:04:07
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Check out our friend, the fancy rugby geek. He was, he had as many misses as we did this week, so that's all right. If you, I can think of one person in particular that was probably, a lot of people are disappointed with and that was probably Red Rod Dress, so.
00:04:23
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Everybody was, yeah, that was definitely ready to be like, all right, that, that was stupid. Why'd we get it? Yeah. No, it's one week. It's one week. So, um, but yes, check out George, um, buy him a coffee slash beer slash whatever you want to call it. Um, and make sure that you give him all the support that's necessary to pump them up, tweet them, whatever you got to do. Um,
Black Lives Matter: Rugby's Response
00:04:44
Speaker
And as always, we support the Black Lives Matter movement here. Each team did something to show their support in their own way, which I thought was nice to leave it to the teams to show whatever uniqueness they wanted to do. The Bristol thing was cool. Teams obviously also just chose to take a knee, which was perfectly fine. A little bit was made of South Africans and their kneeling or lack of.
00:05:14
Speaker
this weekend so. I struggle with that because
00:05:20
Speaker
I mean, let's, you know, it's not fair, but I mean, we know the history of that country. And, you know, that's, this isn't me being accusatory because the, I guess, you know, where am I ultimately going with this is the only nationality that's more racist in my experience than South Africans is United States people, Americans. So it's not as though I'm pointing an accusatory finger.
00:05:46
Speaker
What I'm saying is, and it's coming from a country like that, it would be so much better to have players, you know, white South Africans kneeling to support Black Lives Matter movement. It's like these are the kind of people that, not that it matters, you know, not that whether they do or not has any bearing on my opinion of them and what I know about them. I don't, it would just be nice to see them
00:06:11
Speaker
kneeling for the image of South African recognizing that black, there's a lot that goes into that.
00:06:20
Speaker
I think who got it. It's just with the history of it. I would hope that every American that's over there is kneeling. That's for damn sure. I don't remember what the Quins did, but I'm sure if they did, I'm sure Paul took a knee. Yeah, I think Will Hooley was on the Saracens. I believe they took a knee. I don't know.
00:06:42
Speaker
Irish isn't he? Yeah, but he's an eagle. Yeah, he's an eagle. It's still counts man. It's like as American as Tony Lambourne. Let's be honest. Yeah, yep. It still counts man. Yeah, I think Hoo Guard knelt. I could be wrong about that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I caught my head. But yeah, they did wear the shirts. They could have chosen not to.
00:07:04
Speaker
That that would have been overtly against it. So at least they didn't do that. I guess in the but in the world, I'm saying like for the way that we better to see the, you know, not just to, you know, to not
00:07:18
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to have a visual of all the South African players on sale standing. It's not a, it would be- Less than I do. Yeah. It's not the message that we need. Let's put it that way. It's not a bad message. It's just not what we need. No, it's just not what the time calls for. That's all. Yeah. That's all it is.
Game Analysis: Force vs Warataz
00:07:38
Speaker
Let's jump right into the games. We got a lot to cover. Hey, this feels like familiar territory, doesn't it? Let's go to Super Rugby AU. Force 8, Warataz 28, Redz 19, Rebels 3. Let's go to Force and Warataz.
00:07:53
Speaker
I mean, Muertos just kind of pick up where they left off. Force didn't necessarily do themselves a whole lot of favors here. I have to say, John Lance has kind of dipped since the season first started. I never thought of him as a terribly great fly half anyway, so. Well, I liked what he was doing with attacking the line and
00:08:19
Speaker
doing that almost a section-esque of being able to attack the line and offload. But too many forward passes have started to creep into his game. So that's not great. I'm off the flat ball, but make sure it's not forward. You know, that's kind of the role number one. So it's so he's not helping his team at all at that point. Although he had a hell of a cash open up on him. Good Lord.
00:08:49
Speaker
Yeah, he was leaking. Um, on the other side, I do want to talk about, um, Will Harrison. He's actually done a whole lot. He's definitely been one of the best players on this ward house team, despite how bad their, the start of this season was. They've obviously turned it around and he's been definitely one of the most consistent players on this team. Um, so I, I love him. And then, um,
00:09:11
Speaker
another guy I just want to point out real quick. You know, we were really, really excited about, uh, Nahuatl to Nahuatl and then James Ram has just made everybody forget about him. And not to say Marky Mark's not worth not going to be talent, not talented and not got turned into anything, but James Ram has been great.
00:09:31
Speaker
Since he's gotten better every week that I mean and and he was he started out Pretty decent just making a couple bad decisions here and there that I don't think they cost his team too much But but now I mean their go-ahead points that the points that they needed to win ultimately Were off of his just monster kick out of his own end Because he kicks it down to like the tent the force 10-meter line They throw it in not straight then then on the scrum. It's a penalty and then
00:10:01
Speaker
Harrison slots it so it's three three points right from you know resulting you know they did nothing else but the one you know the kick for points that's an amazing uh you know that that's well deserved three points right there right yeah absolutely um i'm you know there wasn't a whole lot of highlight for the force but um was it standard the tribe yeah that was that was
00:10:30
Speaker
Well done. I mean, that was totally worth the try for sure. I was like, oh yeah, there we go. That was cool because, you know, the try scoring, they needed to keep doing stuff like that. And they really controlled the first half. The force did.
00:10:46
Speaker
Um, at least they showed a lot more that the, the ties were, were drifting a lot. They weren't really attacking straight and they like, there were a couple times where they threw a, you know, they were looking for a flat pass to a, to a forward crashing hard and the forwards kind of hanging back, um, you know, on the, on the wing. And it's like, no, you need to be the one straightening up and, and, um, you know, getting vertical on the defense there and they weren't doing it.
00:11:12
Speaker
Um, but the I thought the force were I thought the force were doing really well out wide Um just weren't scoring off the deal. They they just couldn't Um, they couldn't put it over and that that's that's the achilles heel because they're they need to score because they're just not gonna as we saw in this match They're not going to last the full match. They have to get themselves in a position where they can control the mesh at the end Yeah, um, so well done to the first
00:11:34
Speaker
we'd be really, really stupid to overlook Michael Hooper and his, and how many? He's the one who said everything right. He's the one if you think he's the one who set up that eventually that what happened with the Alex Newsome try. He's the one who, who ran that straight line and then then passed off of it. Cause the defense had to hold at that point. They couldn't continue drifting. So he's the one that set all that right in the end because that's what he does. Yeah. And what a,
00:12:03
Speaker
what a servant to Australian rugby he's been and he's one of the youngest to get to what was it 250 or something like that whatever the appearance number was but it doesn't matter the point being the guy is just
00:12:20
Speaker
you know, he's been around for so long and you forget that he's only 28. It's like, how the hell is this guy still going? Yeah. And he, yeah, he's, he's, he's, it's, it's hard to not like him, you know, as far as respecting a player and just, you know, you'll watch him and you're like, man, I wish he was playing for some,
00:12:38
Speaker
some better quality teams sometimes cuz he deserves so much better for the his work rate is just really hard to beat. And that's, I mean, a slightly undersized guy to what's gonna take and he puts it in. He puts a shift in every time and it's rare to see him ever come off the field, honestly. So unless he's getting carded, that's about it.
00:13:00
Speaker
Yeah. So force eight. Yeah. I mean, Jake Gordon's obviously another one. Yeah. He's Josh Maddox, Jack Maddox. Sorry. We, that's not fair to not mention him. He, that's true. Yeah. He, he, he, um, he's definitely rebounded since his bad game. Yeah. Last couple of games have been really good for him. So, uh, he's looking every bit the part. Um, we'll play a little game in a bit, a bit here, having to do with the Australia backs. Um,
Game Analysis: Reds vs Rebels
00:13:27
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yeah. So force eight or it has 28, uh,
00:13:29
Speaker
Ortiz are right back in the thick of it, especially after this past weekend's results, which The other result in the other game Reds 19 Rebels 3
00:13:39
Speaker
This had a lot. This really did. There's a lot going on this game. This was a watchable match. This was definitely a watchable match. Despite the score line looks hideous if you didn't watch it and you'd probably go, man, this was very watchable. This was, I mean, let's just fast forward right to the second half. Oh, there was two sightings. There was, I think it was Blythe maybe that was in this. That's like the second button.
00:14:09
Speaker
And he was, yeah, and somebody was ganking his shorts down. And there's the, there's the, the, the smugglers just, yeah, it was, I think it was Blython. The smugglers are right there, red and white striped. And then Elo has his shorts just ripped off. And these, these bright pink rebels. Wow, that is hilarious. Thank you so much, Elo. Now I'll never forget who you are. Just. Yeah. Oh man.
00:14:39
Speaker
Sorry, where were you actually thinking of going? Oh, yeah, I know. Well, I mean, hey, let's be real. We were all thinking it. We're all thinking it. This was, you know, let's start with this first.
00:14:54
Speaker
give the Reds all the credit in the universe for their defense. Holy shit, they were awesome. But with a humongous butt, Rebel's decision-making and attacking that 22 was terrible. I mean, there's one guy I can think of off the top of my head, but I'll let you go first. They had possession. They had like 90% possession in the first 20 minutes of the second half. And they couldn't score. I mean, I don't care what else is going on.
00:15:24
Speaker
like that, you're either being toyed with or you're just inept. And it was a lot of bad decision-making. Tamua had to come off, which I, and you know. That only ended poorly. Yeah. And I think that was a cause of it too. I think Maddie should be at 10 out of 12.
00:15:48
Speaker
That's a whole other story. Yeah, it's just they like they're not They did played a lot better when he was at 10 then he's been with them at 12 now Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with that one. So There's some of that and they're just not they're not going in. I felt like they were going slow When they could then they could have gone fast. It was it was very much a premiership type match for them
00:16:11
Speaker
Yeah, a couple of times I was thinking, what are you doing? What are you waiting for? Yeah, guys were just definitely running the wrong direction. The traffic was definitely not organized. I mean, but then you talk about like just the opportunities blown by the rebels and their hammerhead and it's like, nice Ronnie's got to be a little bit more patient. He should have had at least two. He should have had multiple. You know, Dave McDermott stopped one, all the credit in the world to Dave McDermott. But you know, just still, you got to know.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, Nazarani, if you wanna be an international eight, you have the international eight scores at least one try in that match, probably two. Yeah, for sure. And then the decision making for Cora Betty on the outside. So selfish, what are you doing? Shift that ball on, let him step the defender who's gonna go whizzing by him anyway, and then you can freaking step in easy. Come on, man, what are you doing? This was the Australians.
00:17:10
Speaker
This was Australia's Player's Player of the Year last year? Are we sure about this? Did they all get duped? What the hell? That was terrible. Good God. Yeah, I don't see much value in his game other than a little bit of defensive hard work and we don't want to as far as tackling.
00:17:32
Speaker
No, I mean, we've seen in the other, you know, from Ram and, you know, there's, there's plenty of wings coming up that can do a lot more than Cora Betty's bringing to the table right now. Right. Well, and, um, I don't remember what podcast I was listening to, but, um, excellent point. You know, this is an Australia under twenties team that just went to the finals.
00:17:50
Speaker
And is very good was very good. And there's a lot so that means is and I've done it They've been in they've been in the thick of it the last couple years So it tells me that there's a lot of young talent coming through. This is the time to do it You're you there's nothing to play for you're playing in your own competition. You've got guys that are leaving anyway, so Shh shh. She'll come out there and see what they got and some of these kids are definitely showing it I mean like there's the older man, right? There's like an under 24 team here like
00:18:21
Speaker
I mean, shit, just the two, you know, the, how old is Gordon? Jake Gordon? Yeah. Uh, not sure. He's not terribly old. He's not terribly old by any means. And Tate McDermott's, the puppy, like right there. That's a nine combination of the future. And yeah, Harrison, they have, yeah. Yeah. There's, there's a, and we're going to play that game in a second here. Um,
00:18:48
Speaker
Yeah. So it, I mean, and then obviously, um, the final try just kind of sealed the deal. Yeah. I was like, well, that's the end of that. As soon as, uh, was it, was it Pattaya? No, it wasn't Pattaya. It was. God, who got the last try?
00:19:10
Speaker
No, no, Hamish Stewart. Hamish Stewart got it. Oh, right, right. Yes. Oh, he just bundled through it. Yeah, he did. He's stronger than he looks, man. Yeah. So, yeah, as soon as he... I was like, oh, this is gonna go for a try, isn't it? Sure enough, it did. I was like, yep, game. Game, set, and match. And, you know, Rebels couldn't even muster a try. It's just... Yeah.
00:19:32
Speaker
you know, vessels is going to be absolutely ripping this team apart this week. I can promise you that much. Good. They need it. Cause right now it's, it's not looking, you know, I had flashbacks to watching the chiefs. That's not, that's not a compliment by any means whatsoever. All right. Let's play a quick game. Let's, let's do our dam just to name Australia's backline.
00:20:00
Speaker
This is fun. I know why I mean I have so are not we got some choice for nines we got We could be Gordon. Although he's only played a few games This whole this whole year, but it looked really good. Obviously. Yeah tate McDermott Joe Powell Also, I would say are definitely in the running as well. I mean Nick white though
00:20:24
Speaker
Yeah, if he's, I mean, if we see him next week, then okay, Nick White, you come on down, you're in. Yeah, I like him too much, but like it would be him and- Disregarding him.
00:20:36
Speaker
I would go with McDermott and Gordon. Yeah, I think that's a pretty good combination. Ten, Tamuah, I don't think there's anybody else. These young kids have all played very well. O'Connor's played very well. Harrison, Lalescio before he got hurt. Yeah. But really, it's hard to unseat Matt Tamuah. I don't know how to. I really don't. Not right now, no. But I would back him up with Harrison.
00:21:05
Speaker
That's like, it's perfectly fine. Yeah. I would definitely want, you know, these, these young kids got to get, got to get up to see what, um, you know, what it's like at that level and being led rather than only finding out when it's their turn to, to get the, you know, the starter Jersey.
00:21:22
Speaker
Right. So yeah. And we're, mind you, we're just picking from this competition. We're not trying to pick from outside because God knows what rules Australia will or will not enforce. So 12, so with, with to move at 10, I still think O'Connor can play 12. So I'd be, I'd be okay with putting him there. Wouldn't bother me a damn bit, honestly.
00:21:42
Speaker
No, I do like that the having a second and especially the way that it's played in this other hemisphere. Yeah. You don't want a crasher necessarily at 12. So yeah, I would go with Tamua there. Yeah. And then, so then that brings 13 and I think it's a tough go between, um, current Johnny and Pattaya.
00:22:07
Speaker
And those are the two guys that come to mind at 13. I'm sure there's another one or two that I could think about. But those are the two guys that I would definitely put right at the forefront. I mean, I would even consider Hamish Stewart at 13 at that point, have your bruiser out there. Especially with the back three that they have.
00:22:30
Speaker
his, his better, his better option would probably be fullback if you wanted to put, keep him in the back line. But this, so him, Stuart goes to the bench. Honestly, if I had to, if I had to pick, cause I liked the way he, I liked the way he would play out there is all, especially when you have, if you have two distributors, you don't really need a third.
00:22:47
Speaker
No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, he, he's definitely, he's, he's a, he would be a reserve and he's definitely coming on at some point. Yeah. Um, so wings, um, I think fullback, we can just write in Jack Maddox and be done with that. Um, uh, yeah, reach hot, Reese Hodge might have something to say about it, but yeah, he might. And Tom banks as well. But man, Jack Max has played incredibly well. He has. Um, it's really hard to take him off there. Not wing fullback.
00:23:15
Speaker
Um, he, he, you can see the difference in him seeing the space and you know, he's hitting those lines really freaking hard. So phrasing. Um, but yeah, he's, he, so I would put him in there for sure. Um, so that leaves our wings. Uh, who are we going to do for our two Australia wings? I am struggling to not go.
00:23:40
Speaker
I like Pattaya a lot. I love watching that kid. So bump him to wing. Yeah. Welcome down to where he's where he's been playing. I'm good. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not gonna oppose that. Um,
00:23:58
Speaker
Yeah. 11. I got to go with Newsom because he's, he's at least been, he's been around, you know, it's not his, he's not a rookie, at least certainly not in the super league. So he's not, not terribly young and he brings, he brings remarkable athleticism and experience, reasonable experience. So yeah, that that's who I would go with. Yeah.
00:24:18
Speaker
Not gonna argue a whole lot with you on too many of those. I would say that there's probably, yeah, there's, I mean, yeah, it's really hard to justify picking any of the Brumby's back three, not named Tom Banks, and really his best position is fullback. Yeah. So, you know, that's- Although, I do wanna give a kind of an honorable mention. Yeah. Just based on his play in this,
00:24:46
Speaker
competition, but is Byron Ralston Australian or is he a Merc? I think he's Australian. He's played really well. All he's done is show up in a potential scoring position or just playing scoring. Absolutely. Yeah. No, I don't know. And that's to be on a team like the Western Forest who's getting just pumped most weeks, but he's noticeable in attack. That's saying a lot.
00:25:15
Speaker
Yeah, that is definitely true. Let's have a look see Lou here. He is Australian. So he would be somebody that probably would be in the squad at the very least, not in the lineup, but definitely. No. Definitely in the training squad at the very least. He's 20. So he's got some time. If for whatever stupid reason the force don't get back into
00:25:40
Speaker
potentially could be the super rugby competition next year with just Australia and New Zealand. I don't know how he doesn't get a contract somewhere else in Australia cuz he's got an awesome. So yeah, give him loads of credit for sure. So yeah, that's what we have there.
00:25:57
Speaker
We are crazy enough to try that, knowing absolutely nothing else that's going on right now. So whatever. Let's pop over to the other side of the pond. Crusaders and blues and crusaders had to be postponed. Unfortunately, New Zealand had a small outbreak of coronavirus and hopefully they are able to squash it as quickly as they were able to squash it the first time. But nobody's safe, man. So you gotta be very vigilant. Everybody remember that.
00:26:24
Speaker
But there was a, and the, and the game, the other game that happened, Highlanders 38, Hurricanes 21 did happen with no crowd, unfortunately, which was weird because that place is indoors and it is echo week. It still was with like, I mean, I think they still had some people in and they had the reserve, like, you know, the team personnel and whatnot. So it got loud every so often. I was, but it was also really cool to hear the, the communication of the players. Lots of it. Yeah.
00:26:51
Speaker
Lots of it. Yeah, this is this is a game of a day late in the dollar short for the hurricanes. Honestly, you know, we all know.
00:27:00
Speaker
It's not a mystery about what Ben or I think of O'Keefe. So I could just spend the whole pod just absolutely pooping on this guy to the last, what he's done the last year. Cuz this is the guy that was at the World Cup and he deserved to be there. And all of a sudden he's turned into just one of the West referees in the world. I don't understand. I really don't understand what happened.
00:27:23
Speaker
You know, how does that happen to a person? Did he, maybe he duped us before and I'm just now realizing how terrible he is. I don't know. Um, I feel like the refereeing just got a whole, just weird. That's true. Cause we're seeing it all over. There's been just a lot of, like, this is what happens when there's new rules or new, um, points of emphasis. Like they're really trying to make an emphasis around the breakdown, which there's a,
00:27:53
Speaker
there's a lot going on around the breakdown, but not always, especially not the way that it's played in New Zealand. So it's, there's a reason that they've been ignoring it for so long. Um, and now that you're looking at that, it takes away your attention from other things. And if you see something in the blink of a second, you might think you saw something that you didn't really see. And you know, now there's no try instead of, you know, what, three tries that he took away from the hurricanes for various reasons. And I'm not saying that that was,
00:28:24
Speaker
you know, wrong. Taken individually, probably they each were okay. I don't know about a couple of them. One was stepped on the line for sure. Yeah. So that was right. That's no good. Yeah. I wasn't fan of the disallowed tribe because of obstruction. It's like, really? Really? And they totally ignored the fact that Jordy Barrett got smoked off the ball too. So at the very least it should have been penalty and then reverse the penalty. Yeah.
00:28:50
Speaker
That would have been my opinion, but hey, that's just me. Anyway, I do want to say that Jamie Booth definitely acquitted himself very well, but there's an emotional leader on this team that wasn't in there and it showed. It really did. TJ Parr and I had the weekend off and yeah, it showed.
00:29:09
Speaker
You know, and again, very skilled Scrumhalf, the guy played, you know, he got himself over the line, played terrifically. Can't say enough about Jamie with how good he is. TJ Paranar is just that next level. That's all he is. Like in that first try,
00:29:25
Speaker
that, that also finished, um, that you could tell when the ball got to Jamie Booth and that he kind of, he kind of knew what to do to a point, but then he just got completely lost out there and was relying on everyone else. Yeah. And, and he was thinking instead of just reacting, whereas Piranara does that. And it's just, you know, no questions in the try zone, whether it's him or it's the guy next to him that's scoring that try. Yeah. And, um,
00:29:53
Speaker
You can tell at that point, it's like, yeah, he's there, but he's not, he's not going to be the one to lead them.
Hurricanes Without TJ Perenara
00:30:00
Speaker
He's going to be the one who's, who's helping them to do the work. Um, whereas Parinara is that, yeah, he's, he's leading you into the tri zone to come hell or high water. Once he has his butt up like that. Yeah, he's good. He's good at that. Um, I mean, and you know, I'm not going to take any credit away from the Highlanders. They didn't do anything wrong. They did everything right.
00:30:18
Speaker
Um, it took advantage on Yohani both terrific in this game. Um, Yohani is definitely proving that he belongs wearing the 10 Jersey as often as possible. I mean, John's fucking fast. I didn't realize how fast he was, but damn, he is a quick little bugger. Holy shit.
00:30:36
Speaker
I was just like, oh wow, he's actually fast and I thought, damn, I'm thinking that Jordy's gonna catch him and nope, he is gone. I was like, damn, where'd that come from? So loads of credits on how and as they played their bums off for sure. Ash Dixon definitely put in a hell of a shift.
00:30:55
Speaker
Just I can't say enough about him, you know, put a lie came in, you know, after having to replace Nurekki and he played himself a hell of a game, got himself over the whitewash. So I'm not taking anything away from the hounders. They played a terrific game. They found, you know, they took advantage of when Artie was in the bin. They just kept, they had the spirit and it showed. It really did. So loads of credit to the hounders.
00:31:21
Speaker
Well, I was impressed by, by already throwing that, that huge dummy again. All right. Maybe one of these days it'll work. He's not giving up on it, man. So I'm going to bite. So high on this 38 hurricanes, 21 to close out. Super are we at a raw, terrific competition. Um, hopefully we can have,
00:31:42
Speaker
some sort of super rugby competition next year with New Zealand and then pairing them obviously with Australia. You know, let's pray that we get rid of this fucking coronavirus first. But, you know, first things first, right? But congratulations to the Crusaders. Job well done to them, obviously.
00:32:02
Speaker
Yeah, just loads of credit to them as usual, and we'll see everybody in Super Rugby next year. Maybe we'll see a TRC this year, or the championship we'll see. I hope so, but that's still kinda up in the air. Hopefully in that October window we'll see it. That'll be kinda cool.
00:32:21
Speaker
All right. Let's go to the Northern hemisphere where everybody has been waiting for a long time to get this thing back going.
Quinns vs Sale: Match Summary
00:32:28
Speaker
Um, Friday night, Quinn's in sale. Uh, we'll kind of, we're not going to go too in depth. This one, this one was ugly. You got to love the, you know, it's rugby, you know, English rugby is back. So that means English weather is back. Yeah. It's all rain and shite. Yeah. So, uh, I'll read through the schedule quick and then we'll go into it. Um,
00:32:50
Speaker
Harley Quinn's beat sales, 16-10. Worcester fell very hard to the loss of 15-44. Exeter topped Leicester, 26-13. Bath smoked the Irish, 34-17, doubled them up. Bristol held on against the Saracens, 16-12. And Wasp overtook the Saints, 21-34. Yes, let's go back to the Tukanam stoop and Quinn's.
00:33:16
Speaker
Yeah, this was a tussle. This was an arm wrestle right here, big time. And really, for me, it kind of came down to, I mean, Mike Brown made such a huge difference to me in this match because Hammersley played like shit. Let's be real about this. He didn't play very well at all.
00:33:37
Speaker
Dupriya was terrible. Robert Dupriya was awful. Dan wasn't that much better. You know, none of the Dupriyas did themselves any justice, but Robert was awful. I mean, and you knew it as soon as AJ went into you. As soon as he made that stupid kick.
00:33:54
Speaker
I don't know what the hell he was thinking. You don't have a penalty advantage. You have a knock-on advantage. This better work. Terrible. That's your advantage. And he's like, wait, what? It's like, yeah, as soon as you kicked it, it said advantage over because you kicked it. It was a knock-on advantage. Yeah. That's bad. And Diamond recognized it right away and pulled him. Yeah. He was kicking boots. He forgot those as well. So that was less than the out fullest as well.
00:34:26
Speaker
Quite terrible, quite terrible. Yeah, so I mean- You hinted at the one disappointing center for Bristol. Kind of had the same in this match.
00:34:39
Speaker
mounted to a laggy. Yeah, they balled him out. Do anything like 19 meters running, you know, an attack. He was only involved in three tackle contests. And he missed one. So he was he was two for three in tackles. And that was the entirety of his day. Yeah.
00:34:58
Speaker
I just, what did, what are you doing sale? Like there's, you know, I was in the ball. Yeah. We were excited to, to see you guys here or see him with you because Lester couldn't get in the ball. Like get him the fucking ball. Come on. You didn't learn your lesson. Let's go. Oh, it was. He's not the rent, Sean van Rensburg. He's going to be okay. Give him the ball. Yeah. He's going to, he's going to tear through people. Trust me. He will do it. Um,
00:35:25
Speaker
But yeah, the Quinn's just held field position the whole time. They did. It was thanks to the efforts of Mr. Brown there, because he kept that ball in their territory and sailed the territory as much as he could when he was returning them. And I think I've spoken to him before, but I really like Mike Brown. The fact that Eddie Jones has just cast him aside, I think it's just an awful thing for England rug, because he is such a high quality fullback.
00:35:50
Speaker
reads the game so well, and under the high ball, there's very few people that are better than him. So I don't know what to tell you about that one, but C'est la vie. Quinn's good, done. Good for them. 16-10 over sale. So let's go to six ways.
00:36:12
Speaker
Worcester 15, Gloucester 44, I mean, really this all felt, it was a great start for Worcester. Ted Hill got over the line very quickly after our Billy Stroll cross kick, but then the non-eye red card. Yeah, he was nuts. I mean, I never realized that there's no more in-game sanction they could do, but
00:36:33
Speaker
took the shoulder charges into Johnny May. And then like the very next tackle contest, he was in there swinging high as well. Like they could have got him twice. Like if the first one wasn't the, you know, the red, the second one, he would have been, you know, two yellows and a red right there for one, one sequence. Yeah.
00:36:51
Speaker
what are you like calm down dude yeah you gotta you gotta bring it down just a bit i know i know it's been a while since you've been able to let loose but that's just oh that's just terrible let's just tell this one he did tweet an apology by the way yeah you realized i fucked up good if you realize you fuck up good you you let you let everybody know i messed up guys sorry
00:37:13
Speaker
So he at least he figured it out You know, I got we gotta talk about this guy because
00:37:22
Speaker
I love the fact that he, this was a great piece of business when it happened for the Saracens. And this is Jack Singleton we're talking about. This was a great piece of business for the Saracens, finding a high quality backup. And we know the problems that they had the year before with Telefula, good Lord. That was bad. Jack Singleton, you couldn't have signed a higher quality backup. But for Singleton, it wasn't his best move.
00:37:50
Speaker
Really, and I love that he came home and he went he went he wanted to go back to Saracens and he he know he knows what being at Saracens means and and he and he recognizes that but for his for his sake This I would not be surprised if this moves permanent honestly
00:38:06
Speaker
And I would not, I would not believe this works out so well, both ways. I mean, you saw how, how much they used him in the loose, not just on the try, but in general, they, they, they had him out running those like that Dane Cole, um, in cold channel. Yeah. Type channel. And, and, uh, it was fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. You have them using them in the structure. Like that's, um,
00:38:31
Speaker
that he's that kind of guy um and that there weren't many uh
00:38:37
Speaker
you know, side additions that worked out too well. This, you know, the first weekend, this was definitely one of them. Yeah, he definitely he showed it big time. So great on him. And I got to single out Freddie Clark. He was huge every time like he was he was his best position, in my opinion, was like flanker like in an attack from the he's a flanker by trade, but that that's his that's his best position right now in
00:39:04
Speaker
in the game right now, that's probably where he should be at home, honestly. I like him, but that's where he belongs, honestly. And I know that there's gonna be a lodge. There's no longer the lodge. It used to be at second row. Right. I do have some help coming with the likes of Garvey and Alemano, but I think that
00:39:24
Speaker
They'll be well served. He was just fine there. Unless you have a reason to move him around and get some guys rest. He looked right where exactly what they needed from him. Right. Yeah, let's highlight a few more guys and then we'll move on. Olly Thorley, duh.
00:39:48
Speaker
guy's pretty fricking good. I think everybody's, if you haven't figured it out yet this weekend, definitely opened your eyes to it. Get him on the England team. Let's go.
00:40:00
Speaker
Yeah, he was fantastic. Louis Reesamit, of course. Same, yep. Jake Pledry. Fuck, what does that guy have to do? We forgot all about him. Get time. I mean, like, he does not get enough time for the amount of work he does. Jaco Creel's gone, so that'll open up some minutes for him, for sure.
00:40:18
Speaker
um billy twelter he's had the boots going he wasn't he wasn't great anywhere else but man that boot was working it was working very well um so good on good on him you know it's just made my fancy week at least um cipriani played played the hell of a match too yeah played himself that first pass off well the the pass off for thoroughly's first try just floats it over the top yeah all right yeah yeah he's good that's excellent he knows he knows how to make that happen obviously
00:40:50
Speaker
Yeah, and then so I want to highlight Van Breda's tribe, there was a great line by him. There wasn't a whole lot else to really love about Wooster's game besides him. I really liked the two centers and the way they played. Ted Hill obviously was very good along with that. That background was actually very good, the whole thing. And Kvesik did very well. He was everywhere for them. Yep.
00:41:14
Speaker
Um, so, but then the vambrano tribe nice line just recognize that there is a gap and hit it Did not miss the ball and made sure he hit it on a good angle and all he had to do was walk in after that um hats off to steven varney for his first try and his In his first appearance, I believe this is first premiership appearance for luster. So good on the kid way to go That a boy. That's how you do it, man. Um
00:41:40
Speaker
So it was lots of good stuff to like about this match. This was probably the fancy feast of the Saturday. The Sunday match is probably the biggest one, honestly. But as far as the Saturday matches go, this is probably the biggest fancy feast of it, clearly. But great job by losterman.
00:42:00
Speaker
Skevington gets his first win. He's a big dude, by the way. I was like, I did not realize this dude was fucking this big. I thought he was just a little guy. Nope. Very wrong about that. Very wrong about that. But good on them. Gloucester get the wind and they, they, they keep pressure on the top. Let's go over to the rec.
00:42:22
Speaker
immediate impact from Ben Spencer, my goodness. I love this kid and God damn it, I'm so mad that he had to leave, but I love the move for him.
Ben Spencer's Impactful Bath Debut
00:42:32
Speaker
So, you know, we just mentioned Singleton, obviously, Ben Spencer being the other new signing that definitely made a big impact right away.
00:42:40
Speaker
um good on him man that was uh that was just read it like a book and said see ya he's like oh you're awful at this how cute bye no bye and he did again he just ended up kicking it but he did again in the second half and just brewed him the other way i was like oh jeez he's just gonna be a problem for everybody isn't he um so i mean good on ben spencer i you know you can't say enough about him um
00:43:04
Speaker
But really this turned into a pretty dominant match for Beth in the end. Well, yeah, you know, the three, they scored three hooker tries off of malls. You know, it's like, okay, you know, your pack was better than their pack. By far. By far. You know, there was some guys on, on the Irish that were making some very bad decisions. Yes.
00:43:30
Speaker
Danelle comes to mind off the top of my head, um, a couple of boneheaded penalties that it's like, really? You didn't think that was going to be a penalty.
00:43:41
Speaker
Yeah So it wasn't wasn't great. Priestlin was as he usually is He just manages the game very well and makes and make sure that you play at the right end of the field So the load to credit to him How about that Jonathan Joseph finish? My lord that boy can freakin fly when needed to great acting great. Just created Joe Yeah, that was that was that was impressive, you know This is why he belongs probably a lot of people will believe that he belongs on the England team somewhere He looked great. So
00:44:10
Speaker
They're on him. It's so funny that, you know, you see, you don't see Zach Mercer line up at six very often. Cause he's usually at seven or eight. Yeah. The back row being full, you know, being in the shape that it is for these guys. Now he didn't need to be there, but does it really matter where you put like some of these guys, especially right around the scrum. Cause every, every other time they can be where the fuck they want to be. So it's like, uh, you know, if you just have three fetchers like that and just go do some work, uh, yeah, just one tackle.
00:44:40
Speaker
Right.
Exeter vs Leicester: Structured Play
00:44:42
Speaker
This one tackle got, got three turnovers and stole a line out. I mean, yeah, man. I don't know how, I don't know what else you do and to not get on the England squad. I agree with that. Yeah. That's probably. Yeah. That's I mean, and we, and I think they talked about it either in this match or maybe it was in the, um, there's another match may have might've been the Sunday match, you know, once upon a time, there was a problem. I think it was in the Sunday match. Once upon a time,
00:45:17
Speaker
If you can find it, you can run into a seven just walking around, but it seems like, you know, good Lord. So yeah, that's no longer a problem, England. You got that covered, I promise. I promise. So Bath 34, Irish 17, any update on Curtis Rona, by the way, came off and did not look happy with his shoulder? No, I think I'd probably stop paying attention by that point. I think I had this on, this was, yeah, this was kind of a background match once,
00:45:33
Speaker
There was a problem in finding sevens in England. That problem does not exist anymore.
00:45:43
Speaker
Once it was obvious where this was going, I don't need this. I don't really, neither of these teams exciting to the point where I'm going to keep speaking of teams that don't necessarily excite you. Exeter 26 and Lester 13. Um, I mean the hog try was definitely the best part of this thing the whole way. Yes. Really.
00:46:02
Speaker
I struggled to find a ton of exciting moments in this match and, you know, Exeter, Exeter, the hell out of it. Yeah. And Lester did a good job of trying to keep them out of that. They're just not good enough to maintain that kind of, you know, arm wrestle type match. So they couldn't control the possession and the territory quite enough to maintain their lead and
00:46:33
Speaker
and keep Exeter on the back foot. But Exeter have to play, they, so it annoys me. Cause you know, we, you know, we're going to see from Exeter in the champions cup and we'll know where they are. They're in it, right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, for now until they lose their first match. Um, they play in the saints. We'll see. Oh, that's true. Until they play, you know, a European team, um, a non England team. Yeah. The non England team. And they have to actually like,
00:47:01
Speaker
operate in the loose. I mean, they, they were looking so good at doing that earlier on this year and they just moved away from it. And yeah, really sad against a team like Lester. This should be your time to be like, all right, let's put us through our paces. And they had the opportunities. Uh, just, just never did. And really disappointing.
00:47:19
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, and there, the, the hog tribe was well set up in terms of the, the move that they put together. It was excellent. You know, I mean, God, if you're going to find somebody to finish the damn thing, hogs probably hide on the list. As long as he holds onto it. As long as he keeps two hands on the fucking ball. Yeah.
00:47:37
Speaker
Yeah, I mean it was it was right to penalty tries in this one I'm not sure that they were both worthy of penalty tries But I guess he just felt like referee just felt like it was time to balance it out. I don't know. Yeah, I whatever Whatever, it's it is what it is, you know, but then that was it. It was like alright
00:47:54
Speaker
Yeah, and Hell had the yellow card after that one, Tafu had the one after their penalty try. It wasn't, again, not the most exciting match, but Exeter knew what they were doing. They knew who was in front of them.
00:48:11
Speaker
I would also, you know, as much as we shit on them, that was a beautiful tropical that George Ford hit. I was just like, Oh, that's wow. You just did that. Like it was no problem. It certainly was a drop goal. Yeah. It was fine. It was like, okay. I mean, he knew his team was going nowhere. He's like, fuck it. I'm doing this. Yeah. Give me, give me points and
00:48:34
Speaker
Yeah, walk away and they and they were still in it at that point too. So yeah, I was that was the six That was six nothing at that point. Yeah, so they did a decent job of hanging around like I have to do a lot more a lot better if they want to Find ways to get over the over the line eventually there again we've talked about before they're probably a little lucky that it's already been decided the Saracens are getting relegated because they would be in deep trouble otherwise
00:48:59
Speaker
No doubt. So we got Saracens. Let's go over to Ashton Gate, Bristol 16, Saracens 12.
Bristol vs Saracens: Narrow Victory
00:49:06
Speaker
Not really a humdinger, exactly. You know, just a little bit back and forth. Last Grump penalties. You know, a lot ill just spun for both teams, really. Yeah. It was, it was hard to watch. It was not a fun... I'm not a big Tom Foley fan either, so that didn't help. Yeah, me neither.
00:49:27
Speaker
So, but can I, the weird thing for me is I was going down through the, through the, the list as you know. So, um, uh, Jess, friend of the pod, uh, and former guest of the pod, uh, came on there, came into to find, you know, she caught me watching this match and, uh, terrible. She's like, Oh, this one, what the hell? Cause it was at that point it was 12, nine, I guess. And, uh, I was like, yeah, but I'm like, but I'm going down through the list. I'm like,
00:49:56
Speaker
You know, Jamie George has had a pretty good game. It's hoj has done pretty well for himself. Jackson Ray's been making a comp, you know, pretty good contribution. I'm like, Roddy Sagan's doing, I like what I'm seeing from Roddy Sagan. I like what I'm seeing from Cecino. I would say, yeah, I like Cecino. That was a, that was a good debut for him. Don Morris was solid. He wasn't special. Um, I would have liked to see a lot more from Maitland at fullback. Um, but I loved what I saw from Roddy shaking just,
00:50:25
Speaker
He is, he is tireless in his chase and he knows, he's come up through the system. He knows what it takes to be on this team. He knows if you're going to be on the wing in this team, you have to chase everything down and he does. And you have to be physical and he does it to a great level. Yeah, exactly. So loads of credit to him. So I'm like, I'm, I'm liking the, the, the match from these players and I'm like, but they're fucking not scoring. So it's, it's like, it's annoying. It's like, they're, they're,
00:50:53
Speaker
I thought individually they played pretty well. Um, the funipolos were kind of pedestrian for themselves, unfortunately, very for them for what we expect from them. Absolutely. And, and I think I don't need to see good at 10 anymore. No, I'm good with that.
00:51:09
Speaker
I think I'd rather see Wunapola get him the time. Absolutely. I'd rather see him. And it's not worth having good. He cuts things off. He plays it like he's receiving the ball at fullback and like dancing around a little bit. It's like, no, you're a 10. You have to go and execute right away. The players aren't used to that.
00:51:31
Speaker
you know, every single phase. And I think that just kind of kills their timing and their structures.
00:51:40
Speaker
So I would, yeah, I'm good. Put him back at fullback cause he's fucking awesome there. He's amazing there. Yeah. I would, I would have much for rather have had, you know, the player of the year there. Let's remember that. I'd rather have, uh, him, you know, manu at 10, uh, mainland at 14 and good at 15. That would have been a much better lineup for this match. But yeah, it was good that on the other side. Um,
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah, I mean we talked about Red Roger. He's kind of invisible more hand played himself An excellent game Hughes gets pulled at halftime for Earl. This is a this was a hell of a move from pat lamb, which I didn't
00:52:17
Speaker
I didn't object to in terms of I want to see Ben Earl and he almost fucking score right away. If not for a little bit of a, just a wee bit of a slip up, but yeah, he almost got it. But I mean, for me, the best, the whole match too. He was his usual self. He was just a problem. And this is why we, this is why at Saracens they love him. And yeah, you know, I'm glad he's going to a team that's going to use him properly. And they, you know, they,
00:52:46
Speaker
if I'm not mistaken, they did pack him down at eight when he was on the field. So great use of it. Thank you, Pat Lamb. Thank God for Pat Lamb. Good Lord. We are so lucky to have Pat Lamb. I still want to see him and Hughes on the field together. I still would have rather have had her all go to seven and pull Thomas because Thomas is good. He's decent. He's, I,
00:53:12
Speaker
I don't feel like they used their forwards enough in attack. Lewa too is much more of a support player and Hughes wasn't getting front football really. So I would have liked to see that balance go the other way and have it be Earl and open up room for Hughes and it would build off of each other in the forwards.
00:53:31
Speaker
So if it won't get there, it'll get there. Yeah, I mean, eventually you'll see Earl, Sinclair, Thacker all start a match. And I think whoever, whatever the team is, I don't care which one it is.
00:53:43
Speaker
They're all gonna look across and go, fuck, really? With Hughes on the field as well. It's like, eh, can we go home, please? Yeah, it's not gonna be a party for whoever's across, and I can promise you that. But yeah, better, more exciting days ahead for Bristol. Saracens did not put out their top end lineup. They're obviously, really, this is all in preparation for the Leinster match in September. They're really all it is.
00:54:13
Speaker
You know, they played like.
00:54:16
Speaker
the Saracens, this is not a team that's just going to lay down. Never has been, never will be. They fought hard. You know, they, they almost got it at the end. As soon as, as soon as they got that third, they went for that, that last line out. I was like, and they haven't put anybody up yet. I bet you they put somebody up and we fight. Sure enough. I was like, yes, that's exactly what happened. We completely cocked it, but whatever. I, I, there's been worse, you know, um, this, this is not the team that I thought we'd put out.
00:54:45
Speaker
But it was still a pretty good performance from the boys despite the weather and the sloppiness. Weather and the first match back, it's gonna be ugly. As we saw with Aotearoa, speaking of, so we saw the significant penalties in Aotearoa for rock infringements.
00:55:07
Speaker
There were way too many penalties, I thought, this weekend in the premiership for diving over and sealing off when the defense was retreating. Someone was coming in at waist level and the defense jumped away, and so they fell over. But the defense also wasn't trying to contest for the ball. They were just moving away. So it's like, all right, fucking play on.
00:55:31
Speaker
Um, the refs were just all over it and it was a little frustrating. It's like that, you know, we gotta have intent here. They're not stealing off so that somebody, it doesn't give them a competitive advantage. The defense isn't trying to get ball. Like you're just giving away a panel. You're just giving a team of penalty because they did nothing. Uh, kind of frustrated. Like they, you should have to earn a penalty and not just be given it for
00:55:55
Speaker
something stupid that doesn't affect anything. Yeah. No, obviously it was a, it was an initiative that, um, the world rugby and, and obviously, um, the referees association in England has that pressed. And obviously that's going to bring some sort of, um, imbalance and it'll, it'll balance back out. And I do hope they continue to police it very hard. Um, because, you know, yeah, good, good, quick ball is the way it's supposed to be. And also, you know,
00:56:24
Speaker
If you're gonna poach, poach the damn thing. Don't frigging, I'm glad they've started to reemphasize the whole not putting your forearms on the ground and then pulling. A few people got away with it, but not as many. So I'm okay with that. But yeah, and it'll be your regression to the mean. It's okay. As long as they continue to police it hard, it'll be better rugby. And I'm okay with that.
00:56:48
Speaker
I'd take that, you know, that trade off when, you know, in, in, uh, maybe in, in super rugby out here road and then I hit would probably be maybe penalty only. Yeah. They were definitely very Ling and I think I saw, I think I recall like five high tackles the whole, right? Holy shit. Um, yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe reemphasize that part. Cause that's dangerous. Yeah. Good Lord. Oh
Wasps' Tactical Success
00:57:12
Speaker
man. All right. Um, let's go to Sunday. Let's go over to Franklin's gardens. What's happened 21 was 34 was.
00:57:18
Speaker
Um kind of on a roll Even pre pre lockdown. They were they were on it. Yeah. Well, they use the ball. It's shocking happen They've been using the ball very well at that. Yeah, I mean speaking of our our talk earlier They they even had three fly halves on the field at one time during the match for about 15 minutes there I mean not I mean jimmy goppard is obviously
00:57:43
Speaker
He's there to guide Jacob Mumaga and I love, thank you, and I've had a conversation about this as far as coaching goes, the 12 to be able to guide the 10 and say, hey, there's space here, there's space there. And then the 10 to be able to go, okay, there's space there. I know what I want to call or I know what I wanna do with the ball. And having a salty veteran that just knows the ins and outs of the game left and right, up and down like Jimmy Gopper,
00:58:11
Speaker
is so invaluable to a young, super talented guy like Jacob Lumaga. This is exactly the combination they probably need right there, honestly. You know, that's just... And it's working really well for them right now, especially... And so here's what I noticed a lot from watching, you know, all those super rugby out here, Roa, and then going back to premiership.
00:58:35
Speaker
is that, and it really now kind of pisses me off because I was looking for statistics on it and they don't exist anyway, which that's in a whole other story that, that premier ship really needs to get big on their, their statistics. Cause that drives so much conversation around like, you know, you know, who has the most carries in the premier ship this year? That would be good and good to know who has the most meters, um, after content, little things that, you know, I,
00:59:00
Speaker
People in the US used to talk about football all the time because it's these little details that don't really mean anything, but they matter to people who want to argue about it on the internet. But that also gets you business. So it gets you attention, gets you business. This is good. But yeah, how many carries did the centers get? It seemed to me like
00:59:23
Speaker
the premiership teams were just passing it out to forward groups. It's like, okay, well, if we don't go through our first pod, we're just gonna go to our second, use the forwards to crash up. And then we'll look around and see which forwards we wanna give it to next until there was maybe an overload. And then we'll try or we'll just kick it away. There's not much like playing with the ball to attack in space that's going on. So the centers in general just kinda got fucked.
00:59:49
Speaker
Um, I, I, I felt that way with, uh, you know, watching the saints because I'm, I'm watching the two ways that these two teams are playing and yeah, the, the wasps are moving the ball. They're trying to move it, not just to forward to a different forward group. They're trying to, um, move it to, to really attack with pace. You know, that's how fast it gets, gets two tries that way in baskets. I'm not the.
01:00:12
Speaker
super impressed by Josh Bassett overall, but those were pretty fucking nice personally. I like Bassett, but that's just me. Yeah. I mean, it's not like a dislike and I'm just like, Oh, he's good. He's good. He's there. He's always been a guy that knows where to be. Yeah. I mean, you could do a lot worse than him. You could do a lot better. So, um,
01:00:34
Speaker
But I've seen a lot worse. Yes. So it's like to get a guy like him though to get through for two, you know, bookends to start and finish it. And I was expecting so much more play like that from the saints. Um, and then he just seemed to keep it in the forwards. I don't remember seeing, uh, yeah. Well, the last time I saw them with that many carries, right? The last time I saw,
01:01:01
Speaker
you know, a performance like this where it seemed like they just couldn't, they couldn't find any space to attack. Really, the last time I can think of that was the whole match they had against Leinster and they, for whatever reason, they could not get it wide. And I was like, why the, like, what are you doing? Like, you know, you have the likes of
01:01:21
Speaker
you might want to just kind of shift it that way. That'd be a good idea. We'd be, I don't think we'd do the lost justice without talking about their two flankers. My goodness, those boys are good. Jack Willis and Tommy Young, my God, those boys. I think most people would murder to have
01:01:43
Speaker
two, two flankers, two, two wing forwards like these guys, they played outstanding rugby, especially at the end. Yeah, there's a motor stop. There's a motor in them and it's definitely always ticking. So you got to give them a loads of credit and you know, if Willis hadn't got hurt,
01:02:01
Speaker
Long ago, he'd be in the England set up, no question, because he was that good then, and he still is. The injury has just let a lot of people step forward, which was really unfortunate. Really unfortunate for him. Yeah, really, it's just not fair to him, honestly, but it's just how the way the things went. Wasser, obviously very happy to have him. Well, look at the other side. Sam Mattivace gets a spot start. Congratulations, Mikey Hayward on being a dad.
01:02:30
Speaker
Um, good on your buddy. We'll see you next week. Um, Alex Mitchell gets his start over Henry Taylor. We weren't sure which one it was going to be. Um, Mitchell is in the England setup. Um, he's definitely in the eye of Eddie Jones. So maybe we shouldn't be super surprised by this. Yeah. It doesn't surprise me. No. Um, but I thought, I thought Henry Taylor did really well at the beginning of the year. So I would
01:02:58
Speaker
I would have, would have looked that way. But again, I think, um, wasn't, wasn't Mitchell hurt or something too? Didn't he have some sort of problem? So it's not like they, they wanted to go with Taylor. It just worked out really well. Yeah. It worked out quite well. You who else dropped cause his Naira Vora was on the bench originally. Harry Malander dropped. Not a bad person to have, uh, have come in and to shift onto the wing. It's like, um,
01:03:23
Speaker
Well, it's also two changes right before the match can obviously fuck with the team because I'm sure they weren't preparing to lose both of them or not. Probably not. So it is, you know, and.
01:03:39
Speaker
It's, I have to say, you know, if I'm going to have, it's too bad we didn't see Nikasikoi in this game. Yeah, it is. You know, really, Ribid's and Rajin Rawala, excellent second rowers. I felt like there could have been a little bit more dynamism dynamics, whatever the hell the damn word is.
01:03:59
Speaker
So maybe put laws in there and then. Yeah, I think the laws are in there. I mean, you're looking at the, at the, you know, look at the score line. Um, and then you look at those two flankers that, you know, just who are everywhere, Willis and young and, um, Ludlum, Ludlum's all right, but he wasn't young and laws wasn't Willis.
01:04:22
Speaker
No. And I think that's a little bit on the, on the coaching staff to recognize these two flankers are out playing our guys and it's because they're getting to everything everywhere. So we need to make a change. So, um, unfortunate that they couldn't really do a whole lot about that in terms of what was on the field. They could have changed it, but right. Says LaVie. Um, but Hey, yeah. And no, no Hudson's in either. So that's pretty deep powered, uh, saints team, not,
01:04:50
Speaker
you know, not, not their A team either, but they kind of need to be putting their A team out there if they want to.
Northampton Saints' Struggles
01:04:56
Speaker
Yeah. Cause they, uh, they've now dropped in out of the four, um, top four now, Exeter Bristol sale and wasps with bath and North Hampton being the, uh, the championship teams outside of that. So yeah, North Hampton need to pick it up. They can't, they can't, uh,
01:05:12
Speaker
Mm-hmm. They can't have that again. Yeah, totally So yeah, just FYI everybody that hasn't heard or doesn't know yet if you're in an FRD league No, the midweek games are gonna count towards your score. So any Monday games through Thursday do not count so there's one week where there's Saturday Sunday, but there's also a Monday game I think so keep that in mind There's a week where it's around that happens midweek. There's a couple midweek rounds. So also I
01:05:41
Speaker
disregard that. So just FYI, on that note, I climbed into the playoffs and in both our leagues. Hooray. Hooray. You have one that you're just kind of like not, not in it at all. Yeah. And you have another one that you're, you have another one that you're riding high. So
01:06:01
Speaker
You're you're kind of the other end. I'm I'm squeaking in I'll take it Yeah, we'll do a quick fancy review and then we'll get into starts it I mean
01:06:15
Speaker
I, I really toyed with Acre or Singleton and I wish I'd fucking played Singleton because also I don't want, it's hard to find a good prop and I should have sat Hepburn. Hepburn's not that good anymore. No, he's not. He's like, I have Stewart. I have Stewart. I have O'Bano. I have Waller really. If, if I ever,
01:06:37
Speaker
If I could write out the rest of the year with that, I would be good. I also picked up Hoskins because he's been good. Although he's going to have a problem with Kepu. Kepu. Yeah, I know. That will be a problem. Hassel Collins had a fucking terrible game. Good Lord. I'm aware, I guess. Yeah, that was bad. My whole back line did shit. Yeah.
01:06:56
Speaker
Yeah. Ed Slater was a huge pick up for me. 32. I will take that all day long. I was happy with him. Honestly. Yeah. I was happy with him and Bowie. Yeah. My fault. Like I said, Ford's fine. No problem. Yeah. Okay. My backs just, you know, I like captained Joe Simmons. So take that for what it's worth. Yeah. Captain Mercer, which worked out all right. Yeah. Almost captain Spencer. And I wish I had done that.
01:07:22
Speaker
But merchant was not a bad B option. So I'll take it. Yeah, and just FYI everybody Like while we're getting 18. That's a good prop score. I hate to tell you that's a good prop score like people I know we're looking for 20s and 20s and above but as far as props go 20 20 and above is really hard to come by because most of them don't fucking play more than 60 minutes So right, you know, it's really tough So yeah, I'll take I trade in
01:07:48
Speaker
I don't remember who I was. Oh, Ross Harrison for Waller. That's who it was. Yeah, I saw Harrison. He's on my to get rid of list. But I'm not sure who else to talk to who to pick up in his place. So Waller Waller worked quite well for me. Yeah. So yeah, there's that. Well, since we're on this fit this fancy kick, let's let's do start set. Yeah, right.
01:08:13
Speaker
So am I starting us off? I don't know. Yes. Yeah, it's a sale Exeter. So that would be you sir. All right, sale versus Exeter. Don't play anybody on Exeter. Done. Yeah, so pretty much for sale. I like Acra, Vandemara, but there's better options. The locks, Jean-Luc Dupri and Lou Diager,
01:08:38
Speaker
Yeah, I'd start them if you got them. They should do pretty well. They should get a lot of tackles and do well in attack as they did this past week. Tom Curry does exceptionally well versus Exeter. I was kind of surprised by that because I think they kind of with Exeter's side of the play,
01:08:58
Speaker
kind of are able to shield themselves from fetchers like Curry, but he's done really well. He's that good, so that's why. Yeah. And start Dan Duprios. So basically a bunch of forwards. Start them, start them forwards. And then sit Marlin Yard, because you shouldn't have him on your team anyway, and whoever's playing in the centers, because they're not going to be scoring too many points in this match.
01:09:22
Speaker
And then for Exeter, start the Hooker, whether it's Luke Howard Dickey or Yandell stardom.
01:09:29
Speaker
the lock pairing, Hill and Gray, get both for them as you can, and then Stewart Hogg in the backs. For FRD only, I would start the Simmonses, because you might as well, you've got on on their team, they may go off, but fuck, I would stay away from them in TRM, as well as Kirsten and Ewers, who are scoring points, but still unreliable in TRM, but I'd go with them if you have them in FRD, or if you have a gap.
01:09:58
Speaker
And then, uh, absolutely sit there 12 and 13 for Exeter. Yeah. Yeah. Ian Whitten scored more points than their center did last week. And he came off the bench. That should tell you everything you need to know right there. All right.
Fantasy Rugby Picks: Key Players
01:10:13
Speaker
Um, Watson Worcester. Um, so, uh, Worcester are one of the leakiest teams, especially in TRM. They are, um, 10th in both, uh, actually they're both in 10th and both FRV and TRM. So bad news there. Um,
01:10:27
Speaker
But so in that case, there's going to be a lot of starts for this WASP team. Thomas Young, Willis, Robson, Rowlands. Yep. Umaga, Kiberige, Fekitoa, Koppert. Oh, yeah. Minatsi. Oh, man. If you really, if you have him in TRM, I guess you can play him. But FRD is probably not a bad spot start if you're missing guys.
01:10:47
Speaker
He's playing from fullback, so he'll have room to run. Was front row is one of the best ones scoring. So go ahead. Josh Bassett is also fine. Marcus Watson, if he gets in there as well. Ryan Mills is a FRD only guy if he plays. Gaskell is an TRM only guy. He's listed as a loose forward in FRD and he's playing second row. That's not advantageous. No, not helpful.
01:11:10
Speaker
Joe launch breeze and now it's the only guy that I have it's a hard no on on that list Was on the other side. They're middling. They're not they're not too bad in some categories They're for their fourth in the FRD, which is really shocking considering that they're like nothing special in TRM, but whatever so I'll be who God you were gonna play anyway, so whatever Hill Cornell to pre if he plays I
01:11:34
Speaker
Yeah, I guess, you know, if you got him, you got him. Sam Lewis is a go. Bresler's actually one of the best locks in the, in TRM. So he's a, he's a definitive go. Kovacic, der. Niall and that go ahead. Ethan Waller's good. The Worcester front row is actually okay this week. I have some, I have a couple of- Yeah, especially with, who was it for wasps that, that look broken.
01:11:59
Speaker
Who was their prop? Brooks, yeah. Yeah, Karen Brooks. He's out. Ollie Lawrence played really well last week, but he's an FRD only. Weir and Searle, if you can't get away from an FRD, I guess, but TRM stayed the hell away. Mama, Humphries, Beck, Moulds, Howe, all knows.
01:12:21
Speaker
All right. Onto the easy one. Uh, everybody. Gloucester versus Bristol. Yeah. Start everybody. Seriously. Uh, I always go through the list and I'm like, okay, so for, for Gloucester starts Singleton Slater and Clark, there are six, seven, eight, nines, whoever, you know, cause you know, fuck you can name like 20 combinations of those six, seven, eight, nine. Um, Danny Cipriani 11, four, 14, 15. Cause again, same thing could be any combination of, of their back three. Um,
01:12:51
Speaker
For FRD only, I go with 12 trees in Harris. I love me a 12 trees in FRD, man. Yeah, and I like Harris a lot, but he kind of disappeared. It was one of the few dim points for Gloucester, so I kind of want to see more of him.
01:13:08
Speaker
And of course their front row, uh, start them in FRD. Then for Bristol, you know, Thacker Vui, the Bristol six, seven, eight, nine, cause again, it could be pretty good number of people there. Um, she'd be more a hand and, and, uh, and Charles Pia Tao. Um, it's only start, uh, Sony Pia Tao and Rodrodra in, in FRD at this point. I want to see them, you know, cause you have them. I don't even put C.I.L.A. Pia Tao in there cause he's an outside back.
01:13:38
Speaker
Oh, is he? Yeah. Oh, then yeah. And then no, because he's not. Yeah, Rod, Rod was good. Even if he plays 13 as an outside back, that's fine. But yeah, is Pia Tal likely playing a 12? Nah. Yeah. Not an outside back. And the only, the only sit in this entire match comes because it was a conversation I had with myself during the, during the Sarri's match.
01:14:00
Speaker
which was Bristol had the ball, they're throwing out line, and you know, Comms is, oh, Bristol throw it out to the wing too, and I'm like, oh, fuck, here it comes, out to Purdy. Oh, oh, thank Christ, he won't score now. And he didn't score. So I'm like, all right, you know, Purdy, if there's one person out there on the wing that they're getting it to, and it's Purdy, I'm not too worried about him, yes, at him. He's not that guy. He is a midfielder in FRD. Oh, even worse.
01:14:29
Speaker
Yeah, but he's not outside back. That's not bad. If he's playing wing as a midfielder, it could be worse combinations. But he's not scoring points. Trust me. I played him. He doesn't have shit. If anybody wants to give me a midfielder, please. Oh man. All right. Saracens and Quins. Quins are middling in a lot of ways. They're good in some areas and terrible in other areas.
01:14:57
Speaker
Fly half being the worst one that they're at. Backs in general being very bad in TRM. Owen Farrell, duh, you're gonna go ahead and play him. Man is an okay play this week, with them being so weak against fly halves. I know this is a rivalry and there's a chance that they'll up their game, but you gotta just play it. Atojey.
01:15:19
Speaker
Either Hooker, Jinx, or Wilson-Kroff, go ahead. Daley's a midfielder and he's probably playing full-back or outside-back, so go ahead. Mako, you're gonna play, obviously. Shagan's playing great. So, yes, Saracen's front row is one of the highest-scoring ones out there, and Quinn's aren't necessarily that good. Go ahead. FRD-only guys, Morris, Barrett, Billy V, and Lewington, and then actually a couple of TRM-only guys, Clark and Maitland.
01:15:45
Speaker
I don't have a good feeling about an FRD, although I might get proven wrong this week and I'm okay with that. Wigglesworth is an outright no. Bad news for the Glynn fans, Saracens are one of the toughest teams in TRM especially. They ranked third in points against, so it means there's gonna be a wall thrown up, especially Hookers and second row. That line-out combination is not gonna go well this week.
01:16:09
Speaker
for the points wise at least. So for the Quinn's, Care is a yes, Luv East and Simmons, close your eyes and hope and pray if you got to start them. But other than that, see if you can get away. It's fine. There are two of the best ones scoring wise in the game.
01:16:26
Speaker
This is probably the one game you wanna try and chase away from them. Marker Smith, yeah, he's top three in both formats, so you have to play him. James Chisholm is actually a sneaky good play in both, believe it or not. Don Brandt, yes. Mikey Brown, I like him in both. Joe Marsha played himself right back into the lineup last week, so go ahead and play him. Chris Ashton's a yes.
01:16:51
Speaker
playing against his old club. That'll be fun to see. That definitely has an effect on guys. So, yes. Lasikye, Lindaho are FRD onlys if they're in the lineup. Rob Shaw's a TRM only guy. I don't like him in FRD at all.
01:17:06
Speaker
Either hooker. No way. I don't care if it's Scott Baldwin. They got 40 points last week sit him This is not gonna go well because that line out defense for the Saris just gonna cause you nightmares Tom Lade who's kind of up there, which is weird, but nope Quinn's front row. Nope And then if Esther Heisinger green get into the country finally, they're probably a wait and see On to London Irish versus the Saints
01:17:35
Speaker
This might be the saint's chance to get back on track.
01:17:40
Speaker
London Irish, you're not going to, you know, you're going to pick through a running corpse of fantasy points here. Blair Cowan, if he's back, finally, if he's healthy, ready to go. Nick Phipps and Ollie Hassel Collins are guys that hard to not start if you have access to him. I don't know how much Phipps runs in TRM, but he might be a good value pick if he's not ridiculously overpriced, which he probably is.
01:18:05
Speaker
Um, for effort, he only maybe bend on all that lock. If you need a gap to a suit, he's playing eight and he's a lock. Oh, well then there you go. Um, and then of course they're 12 and 13.
01:18:19
Speaker
No, basically everyone else just sit. Yeah, Ron is really good. He's an outside back, but he's playing 13. Yeah, but yeah. As long as he's healthy. As long as he's healthy. Yeah, as long as he's healthy. Didn't he get hurt? Yeah, his shoulder looked a little banged up, but it wasn't so bad. I just don't think he could finish, that's all. Right.
01:18:38
Speaker
On the other side start the Saints hooker whoever it is Dave ribbons Ludlum and Harrison Whoever whichever their nine is go ahead and play play him I'm sorry, Ludlum Harrison. I didn't say that Hutchinson if he's playing and Nair Voro, especially if Hutchinson is playing. Mm-hmm FRD only is your laws and Francis is in fur banks for now bigger and bigger is a start and
01:19:07
Speaker
Oh, is he okay? I didn't hear that. No, no, I'd start him for my fault for against the Irish. He's going to be, uh, no, I agree. He should be kicking it post a lot. Um, and, uh, just keep off your team dingle and to, uh, to Allah for now there. Don't touch them. Yeah. Bad touch. Um,
Bath vs Opponents: Defensive Strategies
01:19:29
Speaker
all right. Uh, bath and Lester, Ben's favorite. Um, both teams are pretty leaky. Um,
01:19:36
Speaker
Bath our tenth or excuse me eleventh Overall in TRM not so but not as bad in FRD The one place that I that they should you should not try to go through is the middle They seem to have centers and midfielders just shut down for whatever reason no explanation on it. That's how it goes You probably weren't complaining the lesser centers. Anyway, let's be real about this I
01:20:01
Speaker
Genge, yes. He's super expensive, but he's worth the money if you have him. If you've already spent the money on it, do it. Ford, yes. Ben Young's, yes, and both. Tom Young's is fine this week in TRM. Callum Green is good, as well as Harry Wells. And Lavonini, even if you're in a pinch.
01:20:20
Speaker
Their second row the second rows do well against Bath in both formats Tafua is okay. He had a yellow card yet last week, which killed his week Levenberg if he starts as you usually does well
01:20:33
Speaker
Murray Murray Valo and Nadolo if they make their debuts go ahead They're both outside backs and back on the so I do that well against them Matt Scott Dan Cole have a seat also Lester front row is a man if you have no other option go ahead there, you know bathroom middling in terms of points against her front rows and FRD, but
01:20:55
Speaker
Lester aren't scoring that well in terms of that either. So if you're in a pinch, I guess you're stuck. I guess you go with that rather against like sale But yeah, otherwise hope and break bath Again, this could be a fancy feast because it's gonna be there the Tigers are also very leaky especially against FRD But there's also a lot of good things on the one plate It's a thing and you're and you and we'll talk about and sit and start of the week. It's a thing fly halves
01:21:24
Speaker
they do well against them. I can't explain it, but they do well against them. It's where 14 rounds in at this point, it's a thing.
01:21:32
Speaker
Zach Mercer. Priestland is the only fly half I would play against this team, especially at FRD. He's, he's one of the top scorers in FRD. Um, if it's, if Evans has been mad of AC or red path, fucking ditch it. No way. Um, done. Go ahead. Uh, Jack Walker is fine too. If you have him, uh, Jules and Stuke are good. Um, McConaughey and the whole, but that, that back three trio is, is good to go this week. He's going to drink my tea over here.
01:21:56
Speaker
Yeah, there you go. That'll work. JJ, Jonathan, Joseph is a go ahead. All the front row guys are also pretty good. Benno Abano, Will Stewart, yep, you got it. The bathroom row is a definite go. They're pretty good. Ben Spencer, Der, Underhill and Fowlotow. Underhill is probably good. Fowlotow is probably gonna be an FRD only guy. All right, I'm starting to the week. Ladies first.
01:22:25
Speaker
My, uh, my start of the week is, uh, should have been my start of the week last week. Uh, I was an oversight won't happen again. Uh, Ben Spencer, I think he's going to be, uh, instrumental. And once again, all he does is fucking score points. It doesn't matter what team he's on. Harrison's bath is he's going to do well. And unless there will present him multiple opportunities to, uh,
01:22:48
Speaker
You know to to to run to certainly to kick he gets a lot of points sneakily through that that that kick He's got one of the better box kicks in the in the competition, especially when he just wants to boom it Rather than just put it up for for a challenge. Mm-hmm. So yeah, spencer will get you get your points this week agreed
01:23:07
Speaker
Uh, mine this week will be the man, the myth, the legend. I don't know if he's a legend yet, but he's kind of, he's building himself a legend. Um, Jack Willis from wasp. What's your looking are leaking fantasy points left and right. This kid is in outstanding horn. Captain, this guy in your TRM, 100% play him in your FRD and bank on a big day from the kid.
01:23:29
Speaker
Agreed. And going in the other direction, sit of the week. I think I'm just going to sit here and look really, really smart picking the eights that play against sale. So Alex, Alex Donbrandt was my sit of the week last week. He got what, 11 points this week. My sit of the week is Sam Simmons.
01:23:53
Speaker
Yeah, all the really good out and out eight men that we've come to know and expect good things from last week were terrible. Yeah. We're just awful in terms of points. Yeah, can't explain that. Yeah, that's not a bad week. So my theme is not dissimilar from Ben's. You look at sale, you look at the points against and you just go, oh, this is a terrible idea in so many ways. I'm going with Luke Allen Dickey and the Exeter front row.
01:24:21
Speaker
sale have the have the only points against negative in FRD. They have minus 6.7 against Exeter were one of the better teams against them. But sale are now pissed and they're playing at home. So how much how much does home matter now without the crowd? It doesn't matter. It means you don't have to fucking travel. That's all I know. Yeah.
01:24:47
Speaker
So the, and yeah, um, again, it wasn't awful last time around. So I'm going to say, yeah, I could just see the hookers from that one. The hookers should get points though. Should you go, go nuts? Um, I don't know. Yeah. What Lou Diager and JLDP going up there and taking those points away. That could be a problem.
01:25:08
Speaker
Yeah, I think you can do some points this past week though. So that's all. Yeah. Uh, I'm, uh, they did, they did, but I just, yeah. Yeah. This is that was things like, uh, what was it? Yeah. Scott ball. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Scott ball had had 35 points against. Oh, I understand. Cause he fell over the line for one of them. So it helps. Well, that's true. You know, yeah, I don't see that happening again. I really don't. Um, I might look stupid, but, uh, just,
01:25:38
Speaker
You got to sit the front row and I got to call out a player and the props are too easy. So it's got to be the crown Dickie. All right. All right. Um, let's just pick them and then we can blow this pop stand.
01:25:53
Speaker
Yeah, let's start off with easy one, right?
Sale vs Exeter: Match Predictions
01:25:55
Speaker
No, I'm actually gonna go with sale here. Because as you mentioned, they lost a game they should have won. Exeter kind of won a game they should have lost to a shit team. Yeah, if they played anybody better, they might have been in trouble.
01:26:06
Speaker
Um, sale.
01:26:15
Speaker
Right. So I don't know how much that challenged exit. I need to see more from Exeter, uh, before I, I, I call it, I call them in the match like this. Um, especially with, with sales motivated as they are likely to be, you know, I did a really need to, the only way exit are going to win this is if they, they don't play their conservative, you know, do nothing system. Um, they're going to have to, to open it up more the way they did earlier in the year.
01:26:42
Speaker
Yeah, probably, probably the way they'll have to go. Hopefully, hopefully for their sake, their staff sees it. Um, wasp waster. Uh, wasp looked really good. Washer didn't look great. So I'm going to go with the wasp. Yeah, me too. Oh, this'll be a fun one. This'll be a fun one. Gloucester Bristol. Hmm. This is at King's home. Again, crowds don't necessarily make a difference, but not traveling is nice. I will say that. Um,
01:27:09
Speaker
Geez, and honestly of the two of them, Gloucester looked the best last week, so I'm gonna go off the cherry and whites here. They did, but they were also playing a much worse defense. I thought the Saracens were excellent in defense, and Bristol had a lot of opportunities that they would have been tries against pretty much any other team. So I'm gonna go with Bristol. I think they both,
01:27:35
Speaker
We'll challenge each other extremely well in attack. Um, but, but I think Bristol are going to come out ahead. And this one, this one might be a race of 30. Yeah. Uh, higher. Hopefully it's raised to 40. Please might be, um, I know that's asking a lot series and Quinn's at Allianz. Um, big rivalry matchup, big Derby game. Uh, I'm backing our guys here.
01:27:57
Speaker
I think they're putting out a full force team on this one. I think so. I think this is their, you know, again, they don't have how many opportunities are they going to have before a champion's cup comes back around and, um,
01:28:10
Speaker
The Quinns are that level of a team that you're going to have to nut up. Yeah. Cause the, and Quinns will raise themselves as they usually do too. Right. So yeah. Yeah. Bristol is as good as they are. They're not the team that you, they're not yet the team that the Saracens in the position that they're in would go full noise on Quinns, Quinns are. Yes. Yes, absolutely. Um, exiles and saints. Uh, I'm going to go with the saints and say that last week was a blip.
01:28:38
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. It should be pretty easy in this one. As long as they don't lose two players before the match, they should be all right. Right. Lester and Bath. Lester, just not that good. And I know Bath played a not great on an Irish team, but they have enough on that roster that makes me believe that they'll be able to get enough points over the line. I would hope so.
01:29:05
Speaker
I'll say it that way. I hope so.
Upcoming Matches Predictions
01:29:07
Speaker
So like they, they should have enough to be that could be the Lester. Definitely. Do they, I, I'm going to go with them, but I need to see a little bit more. Yeah, we'll see. Just cause they're, they're two very similar teams. They're, they're, they're kind of,
01:29:23
Speaker
You know, they, they play out to their 10 and then after that, it's kind of, uh, yeah, if you get the ball out wider than that, maybe, but, uh, yeah, so it's, it's kind of two, two teams very much in the mold of each other. Yeah, we'll see. Um, let's go to super rugby, AU, uh, for some reds. That's a no brainer. Sorry for reds. They're still punching above their weight class.
01:29:44
Speaker
Yep, for sure. Brumby's Wartos. Wartos have played very well the last couple of weeks, but they've also not played good opposition necessarily. Certainly the Reds game was a game they got up for, but Brumby's coming out for bye. I don't see how the Brumby's loses. No, and at home, yeah, no, go on Brumby's. Yep, Brumby's.
01:30:04
Speaker
All right. Pick them as tied, by the way, those that are interested. Sounds like it's going to remain. So didn't we pick all the same teams? Nope. One game different Bristol Gloucester. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Good. So we got something different at least. Yeah. God, we had freaking eight games. I was hoping we were going to pick them all the same. Yeah.
01:30:23
Speaker
You know, all right.
Podcast Wrap-Up: Closing Remarks
01:30:25
Speaker
Um, yeah, so that is, that is what we got for you guys today. Um, thanks for hanging out. We did, we did some pieces today that, um, might've, uh, carried us over a little bit today, but that's all right. Um, we'll be back next week. Uh, you know, super OBA use coming to a close.
01:30:40
Speaker
Eventually we'll, we'll shorten this thing up somehow. Um, but until then, uh, thanks for a lot for hanging out. Um, email us fancy Ruby podcast at gmail.com. Get your damn TR TRM upgrades. Go find George. Give him, give him a look, give him a review. Make sure you buy that by himself and buy him a coffee. Cause he's worth it. Um, other than that, he kept you guys next week.