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Extreme Rule Preview + Unrivaled 11 Review + Spooky Season Is Here!
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We preview Extreme Rules, review AEW Unrivaled 11, discuss the latest in figure news, and kick off spooky season with some scary movie recommendation. Plus, Listener Mail!
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Transcript
Spooky Season Kickoff
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome to the Chick Foley Show.
00:00:24
Speaker
What is up, Foley fam? We are back with the first episode of the Chick Foley show in this year's spooky season. We're going to be previewing Extreme Rules, got a lot of figure talk for you, and let's kick it off by introducing the stars of the show. Sheena, how
Reunion and Open Mic Episodes
00:00:39
Speaker
you doing? Doing good, reunited, and it feels so good. It's been a minute since we've got the game together, so it's dope to be here. Marco, what's going on up in Boston?
00:00:49
Speaker
Ah, nothing much, just getting some bodies together for some more episodes of the open mic.
00:00:57
Speaker
Um, some bodies together. Yeah. So, but well, yeah, spooky season. What do you, what do you mean? Don't you just ruin the whole flow of my pitch, but now I have a couple, a couple of people lined up for the next few weeks, uh, with a possible third, which is going to be pretty big. Um,
Farm Updates and Chick Hatching
00:01:16
Speaker
it's, uh, yeah, it's going to be fantastic. There's lots of content popping out from over here. So yeah. Nice.
00:01:25
Speaker
Jordan, what's happening in the Midwest? Oh, you know, just writing some insurance, pissing Sheena off every day that I'm an insurance man. Just just being myself. Yeah. Oh, man. Sheena, before you go any further, you got to let us know everybody's new favorite segment. What is new on the farm?
00:01:42
Speaker
Really same as last week, just kind of getting everything ready for, um, you know, the winter season, cool season, getting the garden beds ready. But most importantly, we have a chicken who wants to sit on some eggs. So we're going to let her sit on some eggs and see if we get some chicks.
00:01:56
Speaker
Never done this before, so it'll be a first time, so I'll keep you guys posted as the process goes along. Should take, I think, 21 to 30 days, depending on the eggs and that sort of thing. We got five eggs under there, so we'll keep you guys posted. We got a whole faction. Got a whole Survivor Series team coming up. Yeah.
Pod Foundation and Wrestling Nostalgia
00:02:15
Speaker
Remind the folks about the Pod Foundation, Sheen.
00:02:18
Speaker
All right, so we got our buddies over at the Turnbuckle Tavern bringing you all of the content you could ever need. Like I said, if you can dream it, they can do it. So make sure you're following Turnbuckle Tavern. Best AEW, post AEW show out on the market, along with all their other spinoff shows. We got the extra cooler guys over there just recapping.
00:02:38
Speaker
All of the old classic matches. They got a nice trilogy going right now of Ultimate Warriors kind of journey to the darkness with Jake the Snake and the Undertaker back in 91. That was a really fun little storyline that kind of gets lost to the sands of time.
00:02:51
Speaker
Yeah, so they're bringing you all the nostalgia goodness over there. We got J-Bone with coming down the aisle, bringing you great matches, recaps of the weekly product, just good shit all over at the Pot Foundation. So follow us at Pot Foundation to follow each individual show. All good stuff. You're not going to be disappointed with anything that you hear from any of our Pot Foundation brethren. Yeah, we actually had some serious Pot Foundation synergy going last night because we had J-Bone from coming down the aisle.
00:03:18
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Along with me and Jordan joining up with Hawk from turnbuckle Tavern on the taverns YouTube channel for their long balls Yeah, football talk show was pretty fun. Did you
Football Talk and Tennessee Plans
00:03:27
Speaker
enjoy that Jordan? Yeah, man. It was great Hawk and Jay Boner awesome. So it was a lot of fun
00:03:33
Speaker
Do you think, you know, me and you, as much as we talk about wrestling, we probably had just as many conversations about football. Do you think, were they on our level, man, for as far as football talk? Like I felt, I felt like we were able to throw around like the X's and O's talk along with all the history of the game. And they were right there with us. So like right before you came in, I said, just warning you guys now, me and Seth are just as knowledgeable about football as we are about wrestling. And Hawk was like, I don't know about that. I think you learned quickly.
00:03:58
Speaker
Yeah, it was a really good time. And we found out that Hawks actually working in Memphis for the next few months. I think he may make a trip out here to the country about an hour away and watch some football with me and Sheena. So that should be a pretty wild time because Hawk is definitely, he's quite the character. Yeah. And we're trying to convince Jordan to make the trip out to, you know, Tennessee for the Rumble as well. So that was, you know, we need to put a little friendly peer pressure on Jordan because Jordan wanted us to go to the Rumble, but it's just not going to be feasible for us to actually go to the Rumble this year.
00:04:26
Speaker
So we're just trying to bring the rumble to us, you know, so everybody put a little pressure on Jordan to make it to Tennessee for the, for the world. I think
Royal Rumble Experience and Social Media
00:04:35
Speaker
Jordan housework to be done. I'm good. Yeah. I'm going to build up all of the, all of the chores that we need to get done while Jordan's here. It'll be a great time. All right. We can get Sheena to be like, uh, once you build a fucking cage over our backyard.
00:04:49
Speaker
We uh we could get shina to do like a royal rumble of wings dude she can make 30 different flavors of wings and like every minute she brings a new little tray of two individual wings out for us to eat during the rumble man oh that sounds like a great time for me i can't wait to enjoy the rumble in that way you're sitting over a fry pan the entire time frying two wings at a time it's gotta be 60 because you gotta do women's and men's
00:05:09
Speaker
oh yeah oh yeah good yeah we'll do we could do uh drums for the women and then flats for the men it'll be awesome remind the little breast bites for the women there you go wow all right yeah all right remind the listeners they can find you guys on social media you can find me on instagram at chick foley
00:05:30
Speaker
Marco runs the Twitter machine at Chick Foley Show. All of our links to all of our partners and everywhere you can hear us is at chickfolishow.com. No, just chickfolishow.com. Sorry, used to be chickfolishow.com. Botromania. Chickfolishow.com. I pulled a fin, you know? Yeah, I'm doing it like that. I did it timely, just like my... That was
Extreme Rules Predictions: Balor vs. Edge
00:05:49
Speaker
how you could tell. Real quick, before we get into the in-room food week, did you guys see Finn's promo Monday night?
00:05:54
Speaker
Yeah, I seen it. That is how you could tell that Vince McMahon is gone whenever Finn was like, you know, I kind of ended your career last last night. I met last week. Wait, I'm so angry. I said last week or last night, like just was fumbling over himself. And like, I feel like Vince was still there. He probably would have hit like no chance in hell and walked out there and fucking hit a power driver right out of the ring.
00:06:15
Speaker
So yeah, some some guys do need scripts we love Finn, but yeah, he's never been the greatest promo for Yeah, I like that but you remember that one with a Seth Rollins back in like 2018 A lot of unintentional comedy for for Finn We want to remind you guys support our sponsors use code chick Foley to save 10% at ringside collectibles comm and use code PF 10 to save 10% at chalk line courtesy of the pod foundation you guys ready to get extreme
00:06:49
Speaker
Alright, we're gonna run down the six matches for extreme rules for a B show this card is looking pretty awesome And I really don't think there's a weak match on the card, but let's kick it off with edge versus Finn Balor I Feel like Finn absolutely has to win this
Seth Rollins vs. Matt Riddle Fight Pit Predictions
00:07:07
Speaker
match or his kind of newfound momentum. He's got under Triple H He's gonna be dead on arrival What do you guys think is anybody got a case for edge coming away with the victory in this one? No, I
00:07:07
Speaker
Let's get extreme.
00:07:16
Speaker
Like, if Finn loses, we might as well just fold up Judgment Day. All they've done is lose since they formed that. So, I mean, he's got to win one eventually, you would think.
00:07:27
Speaker
It's a stipulation. What's crazy is that they've really lost since they got rid of Edge. Remember, they were winning when they had Edge. Edge beat AJ at WrestleMania, and then they won that six-man tag at Backlash, and it was the night after when Finn joined and they kicked Edge out. It seems like they've been losing all their big matches since then. Yeah. It's a stipulation that's thrown me off with the I quit.
00:07:47
Speaker
For some reason, I don't see edge saying I quit too. It's tough to ever see a baby face losing. I quit. One thing I noticed, it seemed like on Monday night, edge was really going out of his way to keep references family. Maybe, you know, Beth is there and Ria gets, you know, starts beating up that they only have like, uh, you know, like a hostage type situation. Like, uh,
00:08:10
Speaker
Yeah, like when Martha got through the towel and for Brad, or I was thinking more recently, you remember the Roman and Jay Uso, Hell in the Cell, I quit match. He got Jay to say I quit whenever he was choking out a Jimmy. Yeah, that's right.
00:08:25
Speaker
Yeah, I could see something like that. You're right, Marco. It's always tough to picture a baby face ever saying, I quit. They've gone out of their way to make it clear that you have to say I quit. It's no just passing out or something. This is Bret Hart, Bob Backlund from WrestleMania 11. Maybe it could be some deep, deep shenanigans like The Rock where he plays it on like a... It's the recording. Yeah, it's the recording.
00:08:50
Speaker
I don't know if you get away with that one in 2022. We do want to remind you guys we're all part of a cash prediction competition the Foley picks league in our
00:09:07
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Facebook or patreon exclusive Facebook group. We're gonna remind the the listeners that are also part of that group Don't try to get an edge off this. These are our kind of like kayfabe predictions We might do something strategically different in a group So and if you're gonna if you're gonna try to get an edge off anybody make sure you Follow mine and Jordan's picks because we're the only ones who ever make it to the playoffs Hey, I've got a good start this year. I'm in second place right now I'm gonna try to keep it going but so are we unanimous that we're all saying Finn Balor gets the dub here? Yeah, yeah
00:09:36
Speaker
All right, let's go on the one I'm excited for, the debut.
00:09:40
Speaker
of the fight pit on the main roster. We got the man, the MVP of Monday Night Raw, Seth Rollins, going up against Matt Riddle. Sheena, what's your thoughts on the first ever fight pit match on the main roster? I mean, this match definitely favors Matt Riddle being a fight pit match. It's basically his own gimmick match. Yeah, and we got Marco doing the special guest referee. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, Marco will be in Philly on Saturday night, guys, so tune in for that. Yeah, stop by and say hi when you see me.
00:10:08
Speaker
Yeah, make sure you stop by and say hi to Marco. Yeah, we got Daniel Cormier as the special guest referee. For me, it's really always hard for me to pick against Seth, but I think something's going to happen. I think Matt Riddle is going to get the win here. Seth's going to get the win on Monday night and that'll carry him into crown jewel as a champion.
00:10:30
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think Matt Riddle wins clean. I see Bobby Lashley has gotten really strongly jammed into this feud here in the last two weeks. And I think we see some sort of interaction with either Bobby Lashley getting in there or doing something to interfere with Daniel Cormier. I think we see some sort of fuck finish and Matt Riddle gets the win. Yeah. But we'll take it a step further. And yeah, I think Seth walks out as United States champ Monday night. Yeah, same. Jordan, what's your pick?
00:11:00
Speaker
Have we got, like, the official word of what this fight pit is going to look like? Because all I can picture is, like, the Lions Den, like, surrounded by snakes. Have you seen them? Yeah, they had a couple fight pit matches in NXT. So it is, it's kind of like a half roof on it. It's set up like the octagon, right? Like, it's got, it's like caged walls, but then you can climb up and there's, like, a big platform going all the way around the ring. It's almost like a combination between, like, the Lions Den match, like you talked about, and an old-school scaffold match.
00:11:29
Speaker
Yeah, maybe just like Google images like NXT fight pit. It's pretty cool setup for a match, man. I hope we get a place at some time from Mattel. Yeah, definitely watch those two matches too that they that they had. It was our riddle. I think we talked about this last time, right? It was riddle and champer, right? It was a champion Thatcher.
00:11:47
Speaker
in that match. Thatcher was in one, Riddle was in one. I can't remember what the combos were. That was in a really weird period. But yeah, definitely during the pandemic era. Yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah. Definitely go watch those. I don't remember these. Yeah, I remember the set up. You see the pictures, Jordan? Yeah, I remember the set up. Yeah, pretty cool set up for a match. Yeah, I'll go with Riddle as well just like you guys. Yeah.
00:12:10
Speaker
Yeah, it'd be really tough to say. I mean, that would be a truly devastating blow for Matt Riddle if he loses this match. It's akin to Undertaker losing a casket match.
Drew McIntyre vs. Karrion Kross Predictions
00:12:19
Speaker
Let's go to Drew McIntyre versus Karrion Kross. I'm a big Drew fan. Obviously, he took the huge loss to Roman at Clash at the Castle. I see no way Karrion Kross loses his day view, pay-per-view match. Because he didn't get a pay-per-view match on that last run on the main roster, right? No.
00:12:37
Speaker
He was barely a blip on that main roster. Yeah, his first pay-per-view. I feel like he runs away with it. Marco, what's your prediction for Cross versus McIntyre? Yeah, at first I was in a...
00:12:48
Speaker
too excited about this, but I'm excited just to see what obviously the presentation, the entrance of Karrion Kross in Scarlet. But yeah, I definitely think he's walking away with the wind. And obviously, it's not going to make Drew McIntyre look bad or anything like that. He's not going to be buried and whatever's going to come out of that match the next night. But yeah, I definitely think Karrion Kross, not too big on the strap match aspect of it.
00:13:18
Speaker
But I mean, I'd rather it be like maybe like an extreme rules match or, you know, something where there's a lot more weapons involved. I mean, they'll probably obviously bring weapons into it, but just having a strap match is kind of for me anyway. It's not that. Yeah, I think that's kind of a way to way to protect Drew because, you know, obviously one of the strap matches not quite as definitive as is going over with the one, two, three. Yeah, exactly. What do you think, Jordan? Any chance Drew pulls off the upset here? No.
00:13:43
Speaker
And what do you mean guys are unexcited by a strap match? They're going to melt down, uh, carrying crosses, old entrance gear and turn it into the strap. That would be a nice touch, man. That would be a really nice touch if they did that. Yeah. They're going to show us the whole behind the scenes, like making of the strap broke down the gear and built it back up here for that.
00:14:08
Speaker
A match I'm really excited for, the Raw Women's Championship, Bianca Belair defending in a ladder match against Bayley. I think this has
Bianca Belair vs. Bayley Ladder Match Anticipation
00:14:17
Speaker
got match of the night potential all the way. Yeah, for sure. This is the first time that the women's title has been defended in a ladder match too, which is pretty cool. Really? Yeah. Yeah, they mentioned that on Raw. Wow. Wow.
00:14:30
Speaker
It's hard to bet against Bianca, but man, I think Bailey's got all the momentum in her favor and I feel like they really got to do something with Bianca. I don't feel like they're going to, you know, change her heel because obviously Bailey's such a great heel, but they got to do something with her. And I think having her chase the belt is, is the next best option to turn in your heel.
00:14:49
Speaker
Yeah, she's held it since since WrestleMania. So it's been an impressive run. And obviously Bailey's Bailey's been one of the top performers for a long time. So I wouldn't be shocked to see Bianca somehow retain in this one. Obviously, we know that, you know, all the friends are going to get involved in this. I think we'll see, you know, Sky Dakota, Oscar, Alexa Bliss. I think I think everybody's going to get a chance to get get some screen time. So there could be something crazy happen. But I think I won Bailey this way, too. How about you, Jordan? You're the the women's wrestling expert here.
00:15:19
Speaker
Yeah. Um, it's pretty tough not to see Bailey coming out of this, the champ. I mean, yeah, Bianca's had a good run, but dude, Bailey has so much momentum with her new faction and stuff. And I just feel like they needed to cement this beginning run of, um, basically the second part of her career with the title win. So yeah, I'm going to go Bailey as well. Yeah.
00:15:40
Speaker
OK, Marco. Yeah, it's kind of hard. It's hard. It's hard to bet against Bailey, but I could I could see Bianca walking out retaining and then maybe having a rematch at like Survivor Series or something like that or at a bigger show. Have have been Saudi shows next crown jewel, right? Yeah. But yeah, I mean.
00:16:04
Speaker
I'll go with Bianca just just because I think she's not a sure thing either way. Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked to see Bianca one, especially considering that we're going to get some considerable outside interference in this one. Yeah. We'll stick with the ladies, the Raw Women's Championship, the only extreme rules match on the show.
Liv Morgan vs. Ronda Rousey Title Defense
00:16:20
Speaker
Rhonda versus Liv. It's crazy you see a champion being this big of an underdog, but she's definitely got all the momentum going against her. Jordan, how do you see this one playing out? So I want to start this by saying I apologize to Rhonda Rousey. I thought she was done after WrestleMania. And honestly, I feel like she's this is like
00:16:39
Speaker
Even though she hasn't had the ball, I feel like this has been one of the better runs for her. She seems like she has been a good run. Yeah. It seems like she's into it again. Like leading up to wrestle me, it just didn't seem like she, her heart was into it or anything. And maybe that was just shaking off the rust and stuff. But, um, yeah, I see no way that live leaves the, the pay-per-view as champion. I mean, Ron has got to win this. Yeah.
00:17:01
Speaker
I feel the same way, dude. I really feel like WWE's got to go back to the drawing board with what they're doing with the money in the bank, man, when Babyface is winning. I don't think a Babyface can do a surprise cash-in. We saw it with Biggie last year.
00:17:16
Speaker
It seemed like his title run never got off the ground because, you know, Bobby Lashley just had a bad-ass defense against Randy Orton and has like an injured knee when he cashes in. Same thing with Liv this year. She cashes in on a weekend Ronda Rousey. And I think it just makes them seem heelish from the jump and it's hard, you know, as great as that initial moment is when they win the belt, by the time, you know, that euphoria wipes off 24 hours later when raw kicks off, it seems like all that goodwill is gone and people start to look at what they really did. So hopefully, you know, with Triple H in charge,
00:17:46
Speaker
I think money in the bank should really be typically the heels winning that thing. That's like the heels royal rumble, you know? And when a babyface wins it, just do the noble thing, man. Call your shot. Say you want your title shot at the next pay review, something like that. Because this is twice in the last year. Because Liv was awesome. Remember that pop when Liv won Money in the Bank? That was insane. Yeah, as Michael Cole would say, that was a moment.
00:18:09
Speaker
Um, and I just felt like this, this is completely killed all the, all the kind of grassroots momentum that she'd built up over the last couple of years with her improvement. I mean, Jordan, what do you think, man? Yeah, it just, I don't know, man. It's, it's weird because like, like you said, these, these people win the money in the bank and it just doesn't feel like it just doesn't feel right. Like, like you said, biggie winning it, it never felt like he had like a strong grasp on the title. And I felt the same way about live, like, dude, she could have lost at any moment.
00:18:39
Speaker
Um, so I agree with you that the heels winning it, it just seems more of a, a heelish move to cash in after a match, like a baby face cash in it after a match only does so much. I mean, I don't know. I just, it's so weird the way the money in the bank is now. I feel like there's got to be a way.
00:18:57
Speaker
It worked for Dean because Dean was kind of, Dean was always a rogue. Dean was never like a super heroic baby face. And he said before he was going to do it, he called his shot, like that made it kind of epic because, you know, the Monday night raw before he said, I'm going to win money in the bank and I'm going to cash in on whoever wins. And he owed Seth Rollins one too. You know what I mean? Yeah. So that one, but I'm not saying it's impossible to pull it off, but
00:19:21
Speaker
I don't know. I really hope that someone on WWE is listening and they can take our idea to only do one briefcase a year and just alternate. One year it's for the ladies, one year it's for the men. I think that would be a lot better. I agree. Two briefcases too much. Yeah. Does anybody see Liv escaping extreme rules with the championship? No, especially considering Crown Jewel's next. They're going to want Rhonda at Crown Jewel.
00:19:45
Speaker
True. Yeah, I only see I see one card that they could play to get live out of here with the win. It would be pretty it would be pretty freaking cool. Somebody we haven't seen in a long time. Charlotte Flair comes walking through that curtain to come back and, you know, take out Rhonda because we haven't seen Charlotte since she lost that I quit match against Rhonda. Right. Yeah. And she is. I was there was like a Twitter post with like Bianca Belair, Charlotte and I think live doing some like thing like
00:20:14
Speaker
soon. So like signing or something like that. So I would assume she's probably gonna pop up at some point.
00:20:21
Speaker
Shayna might interfere. Maybe Shayna, you know? Shayna could get involved. Yeah, definitely. I don't see Liv winning clean. We need like a heel turn for Liv and just take this title run on a totally different direction. Speaking of things going in a different direction, the White Rabbit, you know, last time we were on here, we were all singing the praises of how they're doing this.
White Rabbit Storyline Concerns
00:20:43
Speaker
I don't know. To me, man, it's losing a little bit of steam.
00:20:45
Speaker
I'm feeling strong. I'm feeling strong. Drink your Ovaltine vibes for anybody that's a fan of the Christmas story because they've all just been, all the clues that's been pointing to the next show. Let's do a quick temperature check. Like Jordan, where are you at with the White Rabbit viral campaign right now?
00:21:01
Speaker
dude so we recorded that last episode and we talked about oh man if Vince was in charge it'd be flooded with merch a week later there was merch out for it yeah i really feel like i mean i'm not like a i don't watch all three hours of raw i kind of fast forward through it same thing with smackdown unless there's something really good on there's any adult with a life would do yeah
00:21:22
Speaker
So I don't know, man. It just has lost so much since the last time that we talked. I feel like they're going to have to pull the trigger so much the first time, you know, there had those huge Papa ratings on Smackdown and in the fall, like they pointed to the following or all the following or all did not do the numbers that they thought it was going to do. So after everybody, like the attention span of the modern human is like microscopic, right?
00:21:45
Speaker
So they're like two weeks max is like where you're going to be like, okay, this is the fever pitch right here. The breadcrumbs got to lead somewhere. It's just been these obscure clues, which are cool, right? Whoever's putting this stuff together, it is still really, really cool, like the different little nuggets, but it's not really leading us anywhere. True. There's some serious investigators out there doing some deep dive digging. To me, that's been the most fun thing to follow is all of the marks going down the rabbit.
00:22:12
Speaker
So I'm I'm deep on Squared Circle on Reddit, and I'm convinced that there is someone at WWE. It may be multiple people, but I'm assuming it's one person that is making burner accounts and kind of feeding the little breadcrumb, the breadcrumb, excuse me, because every Monday night, shortly after the QR code comes on, there will be an account that pops up that has almost no history. And it kind of gives like a little explanation of all the little clues and stuff. And then it just disappears and ends up getting deleted a couple hours later. So I think I think they're definitely trying to steer this thing.
00:22:42
Speaker
on social media. But yeah, I feel like it hasn't really been going anywhere. And the thing about these things are like we like to be surprised, but you like it to be a surprise where you kind of like expect it and stuff, you know, like build up the anticipation to where you just kind of you have that explosion once you once the reveal is. And I feel like this one's kind of been meandering a little bit at this point, but it could still be redeemed. I'm going to ask you guys, Marco, we'll let you go first, man. Are we going to see the White Rabbit on Sunday at excuse me, on Saturday at Extreme Rules?
00:23:12
Speaker
Um, uh, I would say yes. Cause there's some, there's some things on raw that, uh, pointed to the, there was a, if you watched not the whole whole three hours, but there were certain points, um, on the show, specifically during the Seth Rollins riddle promo, where they displayed some.
00:23:35
Speaker
some fiend type of things in the crowd and the camera's panning to certain things and stuff like that. So the rumor is if he does show up, the white rabbit, it's going to be during the fight pit. That's what I'm reading anyway, is a lot of people think that if a reveal is going to happen, it's going to have to do with Seth Rollins.
00:23:59
Speaker
Maybe because it's Halloween. And Crown Jewel's coming up, so that would make sense, you know? Yeah. He's Bray Wyatt. Bray Wyatt and Seth Rollins have a history in Saudi. Seth did talk extensively about Bray Wyatt on that interview you did with Ariel. Oh, that's true. Yeah, he definitely did. And one of the clues from Monday, it gave out, if you decoded it all the way, it gave out Seth Rollins' address.
00:24:26
Speaker
No, it gave the lat long for the Wells Fargo Center there in Philly. Maybe the reveal could happen. I'm surprised we haven't seen anything more overt on TV. I thought they would hit us with the White Rabbit song at least once, but maybe they're saving that for Saturday night. Yeah. The thing is, they don't have to reveal who it is, but we have to see him. We have to see what it is and we have to see some sort of physical form of this person. I feel like just another clue is going to make people
00:24:55
Speaker
turn on this whole thing. Exactly. Maybe you could just do the song on the actual broadcast, you know? No. I mean, that would be a step up from what we had so far because this has never been, again, this still hasn't been like overtly acknowledged on TV. And kayfabe, this isn't even a thing right now. Still, I think if they don't pull the trigger and at least show us something substantial on Saturday,
00:25:18
Speaker
It's going to sour a lot of people. You know, the wrestling fans are fickle and they're ready to turn on this thing. You know what I mean? Jordan, it's your guy. I mean, unless we really get a swear, but this does turn out to be Bray. What do you think, man? Is Bray going to be in the house?
00:25:34
Speaker
Saturday night you guys are like setting yourself up to be disappointed like dude. Here's what you guys should expect Sunday There's like they bring out like a platform and then a white rib that comes out the top of it and a bunch of smoke rolls and then it goes dark in the arena like Dude, you guys are setting yourself up for failure. I really do not see it. I don't know man I feel like there's gonna drag this out longer I
00:25:55
Speaker
I don't know. I don't think we get a full reveal, man. I got a half answer. I could see, like I said, I think we get at least his presence is felt, man, on the actual broadcast. Music is on the show. Like Sheena said, maybe we see a silhouette. I don't think we get straight up revealed it.
00:26:12
Speaker
It's break, you know, yeah, he's on fire. All of a sudden his presence is like, Jesus, this is going to be a, I mean, they, they have to do something cause you can't, I don't think you can drag this on. Like you guys said a lot longer, like you can't cause we on the raw down, we think it may be a month. You could do this, but I don't even just the way it is now. I don't even think you can go a month.
00:26:33
Speaker
I think it's already been like three weeks. Yeah, it's been about a month. I think the problem was that they shouldn't have given us something every single week, man. We should have got something and then let it, like we talked about last time, let it go like a month and then get another little clue. I think it really would have had people in a frenzy there. Exactly, because I'm here for a slow burn.
00:26:54
Speaker
I think when you're feeding people, when you're feeding us something every week, it's just going to build that hunger where we're just like, okay, well, what's coming next week? You feed us every week, it builds the hunger. Yeah. I mean, we're eating- What's the appetite? We're eating ultra-processed food, so it just continues to build that hunger. Wow. They're going to WCW the shit out of this and do blood runs cold for eight months.
00:27:18
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know, man. It's Triple H. I got faith, dude. So far, he's really done no wrong, man. We'll see. It would be great to see Bray back. We're really missing him.
Roman Reigns Absence Impact
00:27:30
Speaker
What do you guys think the actual live audience response is going to be? Is he going to get a big pop? Is he going to get booed? What do you think happens if Bray shows up? I mean, the roof's going to blow off the place. People want Bray back. People never wanted Bray to leave.
00:27:44
Speaker
It's it's yeah, it's not even a question to me that it's gonna be an insane pop All right One group of people that we know are not gonna be there Roman and the bloodline they have been the best story in wrestling since says at least WrestleMania possibly longer than that and The Usos and Roman are off this show. Do you guys think that they will be missed on Saturday?
00:28:08
Speaker
I mean, yeah, I think they'll be missed, but I think it's a good thing too. I think it's good to miss people sometimes. I think having that space and not having him on every pay-per-view, because I mean, Roman's going to be the main attraction on any pay-per-view he's on. So I think giving other people the chance to get that spotlight and have that moment without having to acknowledge the tribal chief, I think is a good thing for everybody.
00:28:32
Speaker
Marco, you said, no, you don't think they're going to be missed? No. I mean, just the way the card set up, it doesn't have that for me anyway. It doesn't seem like they need the bloodline present on this particular card.
00:28:47
Speaker
Yeah, it has enough matches where the storylines are like few and far away from the bloodline storyline. So I don't, I don't, obviously it'll be, I mean, you could say they're messed because, you know, obviously you want to see them perform, but I don't think it's like a, I don't think you're going to be like, no, everyone's going to like turn off their, you know, they got to cancel their peacock subscriptions because
00:29:11
Speaker
If you live in Philly and WWE is coming to your town and you're a huge Roman fan Yeah, you're gonna be pissed but I mean, yeah on the whole I think I think it's a good thing I don't think we needed to see Roman I would have liked to see in a little bit of bloodline presence whether it's a Usos match or
00:29:25
Speaker
I mean, the best thing they could do right now is just give Sammy a solo showcase, you know what I mean? Like figure out somebody he can go up against just so we could see Jay Uso just stewing in the corner. I feel like Jay just hating on any sort of success or happiness Sammy has is like the best thing going in wrestling right now. Yeah, I love Sammy with the bloodline. It's going to be a sad day whenever their festival of friendship is over. What do you think their Fig God is extreme roles and complete without Roman?
00:29:54
Speaker
Uh, it's a gimmick pay-per-view. So, I mean, there's so much shit going on at this pay-per-view. Like I don't really think that he's needed to wrestle just cause I mean, every match has stipulation. Like this is just a straight up gimmick pay-per-view. The champ is not needed on this one. I mean, he was obviously not going to wrestle in a gimmick match. So no, I think I'm good with this one being the way it is.
00:30:17
Speaker
You guys aren't reminiscing fondly about last year's Extreme Rules when we saw Finn had the famous musical revival against Roman.
Finn Balor's Music Revival Retrospective
00:30:27
Speaker
No, we're not. That's still never been explained in kayfabe, how he did all that and then just tripped off the the top turnbuckle and somehow, you know, I think they need to retcon that storyline and go back and reveal that Sami Zayn was like a ring technician for that match. How great would that be? That would be awesome.
00:30:44
Speaker
Cause they, we never really got any explanation why, despite all these big guys, you know, slamming in the ropes all night, fins. They loosened it up, dude. I guess so. I don't know, man. It's like when you try to do the pickle jar and you're like, oh, you finally handed off somebody else. You're like, I loosened it up for you. Yeah. All those, you know.
00:31:01
Speaker
meeting men hitting the ropes all night, just kind of knock the term buckles loose. I remember that was like, that was probably the single moment that I felt like Roman was really going to lose the belt out of all is between that and the Drew McIntyre near fall at clash. Whenever, because that was as corny and as stupid as it was, man, I was marking out at that moment, man, when Finn hit the comeback, started hitting the drop kicks and stuff. And I thought we were about to actually see
00:31:26
Speaker
a title change, at least for like one night or something. What'd you guys think, man? We'll do a quick retrospective review of Extreme Rules 2021. How has the Finn's musical revival aged for you, Jordan? Not well. I mean, there's no real...
00:31:44
Speaker
I hope we never
00:32:00
Speaker
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00:32:30
Speaker
No. All right.
Extreme Rules Main Event Speculation
00:32:33
Speaker
One quick last speed round question before we move on from Extreme Rules. What do you guys think closes the show? Sheena, we'll let you go first. Oh man, what closes the show? Sorry, I'm hitting the mic. I don't know, probably the fight pit you think.
00:32:51
Speaker
Possibly, I doubt it. I don't know. That seems like a weird setup because the crowd's going to have a hard time viewing that one. I think they might have to bust out the substitute teacher VCR and TV things like they did. You guys wear that from the Boiler Room Brawl at SummerSlam 96. Yeah, the projector out.
00:33:08
Speaker
Yeah. So I can't see him doing something like that for the main event, but it's a bold choice. If if that's the main event, then I'm really going to be leaning into Marco calling it on on Bray Wyatt showing up during that match. But we'll see. Yeah. George, what do you think? I think the women's ladder match closes the show. I just I feel like this is the pay-per-view to let the women close the show. That's not me being sexist. I'm just saying the way the card lines up. Bianca and Bailey would be a perfect match close tonight.
00:33:40
Speaker
Sorry. She just got me laughing over here. I'm sorry guys. Tell them why you're laughing so hard. I look over and you're talking about what's going to close the show and says freaking knuckle deep up in his Krusty Krab shorts scratching his balls.
00:34:09
Speaker
You need to sit here talking to you guys with a straight face. Meanwhile, he's got a handful of nutsack. Yeah.
00:34:18
Speaker
That's the only way you should be talking to us with a handful of nuts back. All right. All right. Let's rewind Jordan. What did you say you think the main event's going to be? All right. Stop laughing. Uh, Bailey and Bianca in the ladder match. I think he's going to main events show.
00:34:46
Speaker
Agreed. I think that's going to be match of the night and might as well let it go on last. What do you think, Marco? Oh, man, I can't stop laughing. I'm definitely going with Bailey and Bianca to close out the show. If you have to pick a marquee match for that premium live event, it's that one.
00:35:07
Speaker
All right, so we're all going with the ladder match, and Sheena somehow thinks the fight pit is going to close the show. I don't know how strong contender coming in late is the handful of nutsack match. Exactly. I was in the fight pit. He was in the fight pit. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, man. He was all the way inside the Krusty Krab. All right. Let's have it.
Beverage Anecdotes
00:35:39
Speaker
All right, it's time for the weekly beverage break where we talk about what we're sipping on the street. Shane, you can get us started. What are you drinking? I'm drinking iced coffee. You guys know it is past my bedtime these days. I have a nice- Blame. Yeah, I have a nice iced coffee with some raw cream in here. A little bit of raw cream from Seth.
00:36:05
Speaker
No, none of that. None of that. A piece of garlic bread on the side. A little garnish. Yeah, it did taste a little salty. I was a little bit concerned, but yeah, it's nice.
00:36:21
Speaker
I bet it is. I'm going with the old favorite Miller Lite out of the, out of the Cotto this week, out of the 16 ounce Cotto. What do you guys thoughts on the aluminum bottles? Are you guys pro or against? Because I used to really not like these things, but I don't know, over the last year, I've kind of softened on my stance on the aluminum bottles. Big fan. Big fan of the Miller Lite aluminum bottles.
00:36:43
Speaker
She looks like she got a joke, she wanted to say. No, I like the aluminum bottle too. I'm just glad you haven't hardened on your stance. Marco, what are you? Are you thumbs up or thumbs down on the cuddles? Yeah, cuddles, cuddles. Not cuddles, yeah. The shit's off the rails. Oh my god, it's bad. It's extreme rules. Yeah, it's extreme rules.
00:37:18
Speaker
We don't edit never let it be said that we are not fucking live to tape on this show Yeah, we are we are one take wonders. Oh my goodness. Yeah, but uh, no the aluminum bottles are fine I mean about a huge fan of them, but I mean if they're offered oh I'll take them
00:37:36
Speaker
All right, what are you drinking tonight, Marco? I am sipping on a old favorite, the Broken Skull IPA. What? It's been a long time since I had one of those. Yeah. Can't find them around here. Yeah, no, they're very rare around here. I found a case just happened. I was picking up some wine for the Mrs.
00:37:55
Speaker
and took a stroll down the aisle just to see if they had any. They had a ton of American lagers and only like two of the Broken Skull IPA, so I grabbed one of those. You think the lagers doing as good as the IPA? There's no way, dude. I mean, the lager was decent, but I feel like that was just... I feel like the only way it's really going to blow up big is off the Steve Austin name. The Broken Skull IPA is a great IPA. Even people who aren't
00:38:24
Speaker
wrestling fans, whatever that are just like beer snobs. Like my friend Jesse out in Hawaii, he's a hardcore beer snob and he gave the Broken Skull IPA like two thumbs up. It's just a great classic West Coast IPA. Yeah, I never really liked IPAs until we started drinking them. Yeah, that was kind of like my gateway into IPAs. The lager, it was a good beer, but I saw no reason to be paying four bucks a can for that because it was no different to me than like a Bud Light or a Busch Light.
00:38:52
Speaker
Jordan, what was your take on the the Broken Skull logger? I liked it. I still have some of my fridge in the garage. I have that and Broken Skull IPA. So I like both of them. But yeah, the IPA is definitely better.
00:39:04
Speaker
Yeah. What are you drinking tonight, man? I don't know. I'm going to save the show though. And I'm going to read you guys the format title. It is extreme rules, preview, unrival, 11 review and spooky season is here. What the fuck are you guys doing? I am drinking. I should have put some pumpkin spice. What are we doing? Do we even run a fucking professional show here? I am drinking October. Is it even October? Jesus, you know, you've lost your touch.
00:39:29
Speaker
I know, I've lost my touch what's happening to me. I'm drinking a pumpkin ale by Whole Hog Brewery out of Stevens Point, Wisconsin, and it is delicious. Nice. Yeah, we got to get some fall beers in here. They had them the last time I went to our craft beer store, which you know is like damn near an hour away. And I just thought, it's too early. We need to wait a couple more weeks. So next round, we can go a little bunch of fall stuff. No bro, next time you go back, they're going to have all the fucking Christmas beers, dude. You already know. I take a Christmas beer over a fall beer any day.
00:39:58
Speaker
It depends. We're gonna talk about fall beers here in a little while, but yeah. Okay. All right, let's hear from the two batch ads, Turnbuckle Tavern, and then we'll get into some figure talk.
00:40:12
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00:40:54
Speaker
Alright, it's time for the weekly figure for brought to you by ringside collectibles reminder use code chick Foley to save 10% on all of your figure purchases and we're going to kick it off with a little bit of a figure of you we got unrivaled 11 in from ringside last week, and we are going to be running down those figures. Jordan
AEW Figures and Backstage Drama
00:41:13
Speaker
Marco you guys got anything from this set yet. No, nothing yet.
00:41:18
Speaker
All right, well, Sheena's gonna, I'll kind of team up and Sheena can give her thoughts on them. You guys feel free to chime in if you've, from what you've seen online. We'll start off with a bonus figure, another thing that came in last week. Surprisingly, this was like the first figure pre-order that's like shown up, like at the same time it was hitting shelves. And I feel like a damn near a year, man. I feel like lately Walmart and Target have both been like slipping. And if you pre-order something online, you're gonna get it like six weeks after it shows up in stores. But we got the Target exclusive, Sammy Guevara.
00:41:46
Speaker
Yeah. So first I'll say, obviously you guys know that we are loose collectors. So packaging really doesn't affect our display, but I think it was such a cool touch that they, for the target exclusives where it's foiled, um, they did a red foil instead of like their standard gold foil or the silver for the, uh, unmatched. Yeah. Is it silver or blue on the unmatched?
00:42:07
Speaker
The unmatched is silver. The unrivaled is gold. Anyway, the figure I hate this Sammy head sculpt. I've mentioned that a few times. Not my favorite head sculpt of Sammy's. I do love the red gear though with the spider webs and the spiders even coming from someone with extreme arachnophobia. I still
00:42:27
Speaker
I think this gear is awesome. The cool thing is, remember the Chick Quickie we taped last week, we had the new Sammy Guevara in the the prison gear, he comes with those two head skulls, so he's going to pop one off and replace it. We'll let Andrade knock his block off, killer clown style. Yeah, knock his block off. Yeah, so good figure, like it.
00:42:48
Speaker
What do you guys want to weigh in real quick? What do you guys think? I mean, obviously, we got to mention it's the biggest drama blown up tonight. What do you guys think of the Sammy G Andrade drama backstage at AWW? You think that's a shoot? I think it's a work. I think it is 100%. I think it is 100% shoot. And they already changed the match for Rampage on Friday. And Andrade was supposed to be in the main event on Rampage. They pulled up. And Tony already took him off that. I think the only reason they didn't take Sammy out is because he was already promoted for the main event tonight.
00:43:16
Speaker
And AEW has already been such a shit show the last six weeks or so. And Tony K was like, we got to at least put the main event in the ring tonight. Yeah. Tony's got to shut this shit down, dude. They got to... I think they just don't respect him, dude. I mean, the whole... Why would you? The whole company was founded on like, we're going to let wrestlers do what they want. And Jericho and Mox, their leadership can only go so far, man, if nobody respects the guy that's writing the checks.
00:43:41
Speaker
Yeah, and you got the owner out there hugging people and the weird funky hugs and bowing down and giving shit bows to everybody. I just think it's just, yeah, they definitely don't respect him, dude. I know you got some thoughts, Jordan. What's your take, man?
00:43:59
Speaker
Dude, he was texting me. I didn't even know what had happened yet. He's texting me as I'm like putting the kids down. Like AEW is a shit show. I'm like, let's hear it. So like, I am probably the biggest AEW defender on this show. And when I say probably, I definitely am.
00:44:15
Speaker
Dude, this company is going to shit real fast. So Sammy's had two incidents backstage now, one with Eddie Kingston and now one with Andrade, which I don't know if Andrade already had some ill will towards AEW because he's wanted out for a while, whatever the case. Sammy's been in- Yeah, probably just a little pent up aggression.
00:44:36
Speaker
I mean, either way, Sam, he's been in two backstage incidents already. And I don't know, man, I just I really feel like AWS head down a bad path right now. Tony Khan does not have any control of the roster. It's, it's getting fucking bad. I mean, I still enjoy watching it, don't get me wrong, but
00:44:54
Speaker
Seth said three years before it sells. I don't even think it makes it three years. If, if they keep going on this path, they have to have someone else that like reigns Tony in and like tells him, Hey dude, this is not good. Like this cannot keep happening where it seems like the wrestlers are running the entire show. Cause
00:45:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. You just can't be friends with the talent. There's like, there's a guy out there right now. He's a free agent. Wow. He's got a lot of time on his hands. Bring it. Bring in Vinnie Mac, dude. Oh boy. What could go wrong? Bring it. Let's go full circle. Bring Vinnie Mac into help Tony Conner on AW. What, what a, what a dynamic that would be. Marco, I don't want to get you any heat with the two bad chads, but how long is it before the raw down becomes the A show over on the turn bubble cavern feed?
00:45:38
Speaker
I mean, apparently you haven't been, I mean, you haven't listened. If you listen to raw down, I take shots at AW all the time. I'm not sure if they it's, it's a, but yeah, I mean, we, we kind of, we kind of joked about that too, about, uh, the raw down become the A show and it's,
00:45:53
Speaker
I don't know, man. I was actually thinking about this earlier when I was watching Dynamite. I used to look forward to watching Dynamite every Wednesday, the past few years anyway, or maybe the first year, we'll say, even during the pandemic stuff. You must watch, man. It used to be. The Daily's Place era was great for AW. Yeah. I'm not sure if this was a shoot or a work tonight, but did you get to see the confrontation between Mox and
00:46:34
Speaker
they shut it, not shut his make off, but they like kind of distorted it.
AEW's Current Challenges
00:46:37
Speaker
And then he said, uh, well, so supposedly Warner brothers has requested that they clean up the language a little bit. Cause he did say finally, it had never been on a delay and now it's on a delay. It's only a 15 second delay. Finally. And he did. Yeah, that's straight from Warner brothers, which, I mean, that's smart for AEW, dude. Like obviously that's, that's their boss now and they're in negotiations for a new TV deal. So.
00:46:40
Speaker
in Hangman.
00:46:57
Speaker
I'm not going to hate on him too much for that, but that definitely took away some of the edge and something that made him different from WWE. That little bit of, uh, kind of just like, yeah, a little bit of spice. I mean, it wasn't even that it was, uh, he referenced something, uh, about obviously about punk and that what happened between punk and hangman and that, and that promo. And he said, he basically said something like watch him out. Don't even like, basically like don't say, don't come out here and like kinda, you know, shoot from the hip.
00:47:25
Speaker
basically to me like kind of watch your mouth type of thing like I don't know it's it was kind of it was like kind of like a weird off comment it didn't seem like it was a part of that that whole promo it seemed like basically like hey we're doing this you know we have this program going don't you know don't run your mouth basically don't fuck this up like you do it
00:47:44
Speaker
If Mox starts getting involved in all the backstage drama, I feel like that's going to be like the death blow for EW. He's like somehow the voice of reason. Mox to me doesn't even seem like the type of guy that gives backstage drama. He just loves wrestling. I feel like he does his wrestling thing out there and he goes home and he
00:48:05
Speaker
you know, does the family guy thing and then he comes back and he does wrestling again. To me, Mox could give two shits about what's going on with the other guys. No, no, I know that. I'm saying like, you know, it seemed like from what I gather is Hangman kind of ruined. I don't want to say he ruined an opportunity, but that program between him and Punk was supposed to be something like, you know, like epic, something big for AEW. And then him, you know, coming out, you know, kind of like shooting from the hip.
00:48:32
Speaker
Uh, at that promo that kind of mess up the whole, that whole like storyline. I don't know. I'm not going to blame hangman for that. I'm going to blame punk for that. I mean, let's just, let's just call a spade a spade. Punk's the one who, who fucked that up for everybody. So, you know, if he, if he could have just had a, an ounce of maturity and an ounce of, you know, self-awareness, none of that would have happened, dude. Okay. A restraint, not even self-awareness, just an ounce of restraint.
00:48:58
Speaker
Yeah, he's a mess. It's a bummer because I loved it so much, man, since since I started out. So hopefully I'm still rooting for him to get together because there's still a lot of good stuff happening there. But like the backs, like in a little bit of backstage drama isn't a bad thing, right? But it's like, you know, just because a little bit is good, that doesn't mean a lot of it is great. It's kind of just starts to overshadow what's happening in the ring. Let's get back to the figures, though. What we got next on the stack there, Shane?
00:49:23
Speaker
We have Darby Allen from Revolution when he was with Sting. He's got the half Sting face paint, half Darby Allen face paint. Looks amazing. I love these Darby Allen pants. He's got on like these, I would wear these pants. They're like, you know, olive green, cargo pants. Got the black underneath. Yeah, it comes with a baseball bat.
00:49:46
Speaker
bottle, extra hands. This is a great looking figure. It's not my favorite Darby figure. No, it's not my favorite. He's got a lot of cool figures so far. That's not saying it's not a great figure, but they did do something different with the face printing. It's got a true FX type of paint job on the face, which looks really good. It almost looks like you can see brushstrokes or where they were actually painting.
00:50:09
Speaker
It's cool that we have the set because the luminaries, the steam luminaries has the same face paint. Yeah, very cool figure. We need that old school Tacoma, the same style of mind that Sting was driving in that little video to set up that match. That needs to be the next vehicle. Also, where are our vehicles, dude? Jeremy told us what we were getting. We were supposed to be getting a van. I think we were supposed to get FTR's truck and something else this year. It's October and we haven't seen anything.
00:50:35
Speaker
Are you still thinking that when Jeremy says something, it actually is going to come to fruition? That's a good point. What do you guys think, Jordan? Are we ever going to see that van? Did Jeremy promise this? No. Not happening. Marco? No, definitely not. It would have happened already if that was the case. Yeah, it is pretty crazy. Along with the AW product, it seems like the Jazzwares figure line is losing momentum, too. Remember when these used to all sell out immediately on ringside, and you couldn't already find them on the pegs anywhere? Yeah.
00:51:06
Speaker
All right, who we got next, Jean? We got Kip Sabian, first time in line. He has a molded jacket with one sleeve, got a lot of words on... Oh, no, just a Superbadger to make Kip Sabian, duh. Words, words, words.
00:51:23
Speaker
Yeah. Um, comes with all the extra hands and long boots. I just, I don't know. I mean, Kip saving does nothing for me. I'm really trying to build this figure up. It's cool. Cause it's the first time in the line, but yeah, like how excited are you really getting for a Kip saving? I don't think like this figure does not jump off the shelf to me. I do still have the old, uh, dashing Cody roads elite that came with the brown paper bag. You can put over his head. So I might throw that on with this Kip to, uh, work for that gimmick. He was working with pack the last, uh, the last couple of months. That'd be cool. Yeah.
00:51:53
Speaker
What does he need? Right along the lines. What does he need? All those extra hands though. Like how many hand jobs? I don't know, man. Every, you know, the young bucks are like, you know, probably next to like Kenny Omega and Mox is like the most important X in AW and all they ever get is like the Seagrip hands. They can't even do their like signature pose, but somehow Kip freaking Sabian's got, you know, Ultimate Edition accessories with him.
00:52:16
Speaker
six hands. I mean, he doesn't really have any other gimmicks. You know what I mean? Like what else would you put with him other than hands? Yeah, I mean, I could see that this price. I'm assuming this is probably gonna be the only Kip Sabian figure we ever got. But still, it's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know why they did that. It's a very good question, Jordan. Next up we have Penelope Ford. She's got this like purplish pink gear. I like the little detailing on the leg where she's got the garter.
00:52:41
Speaker
She looks great. I mean, same thing with Kip though. Like how excited are you again for Penelope Ford? Yeah, we haven't even seen her like in a long, long time. I mean, she was, she was pretty prominent on there when I'm really, she was really, she was on AEW tonight, just so we're clear. Oh, wow. It's a crying shame that we never got a Joey Janela in this line, man. I think Joey Janela is probably the biggest misfigure of the AEW figure line so far. What do you guys think? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that one was our biggest.
00:53:11
Speaker
Mark, yeah, good point, Sheen, Marko. Yeah, I'd probably take a Marko stunt first. That's a very good, yeah, I'd probably go Marko stunt number one, Joy Genoa, close number two.
00:53:21
Speaker
Next up, we have Chris Jericho in the jumpsuit from, it's not from Dynamite. It's from Blood and Guts. It was Dynamite Blood and Guts. Oh yeah, Dynamite Blood and Guts. Cool, so now all we need is Santana and Ortiz to complete this. Yeah, we got Sammy and we got Jake Hager already. Yeah, so just a unique Jericho. Obviously, I don't think it's gonna be anybody, like if you're only gonna have one Jericho in your collection, I don't think it's gonna be this one. This one only works. Yeah, you have to have the rest of that. Yeah, you gotta have the whole set.
00:53:50
Speaker
Yeah, we talked about on the chick quickie. Sometimes these figures are like, you know, the sum is greater than the parts. So this is definitely, this definitely falls into that category. And last but not least. Last but certainly not least, we got Adam Cole, Bay Bay. The figure looks good. I just think it's just, it's, I think it's bullshit that they didn't give him a soft goods jacket because they gave him the Bay Bay hands, dude. But you can't even pose him.
00:54:16
Speaker
You can't even pose him with the freaking hands up. I'm going to see if this jacket works on an elite that I think I don't think it's going to because the proportions are off enough. But I don't know, man, I'm kind of bummed because I feel like we're still yet to get a great Adam Cole figure. I don't know. What were you guys? Like Jordan, what was your favorite WWE release for Adam Cole? I still like the three pack with all three undisputed error guys in it.
00:54:45
Speaker
I like the fan takeover, the Amazon exclusive one. I think that was actually a really good figure. If you guys have that handy, definitely take it.
00:54:55
Speaker
Yeah, I hated that they always use those big-ass bulky knee pads for him I don't know what Mattel like still to this day even though like they're absolutely on fire with their figures so far I feel like they've never figured out a good way to do like the guys that were the knee sleeves They always give them those gigantic knee pads that like just they look bad and it limits the articulation Yeah here and that was how Adam Cole had on all his figures. So does it? Yeah
00:55:17
Speaker
I don't know maybe we'll get a supreme down the line this one like if you've seen the pictures online we haven't opened ours up yet but like the arms are really long he's kind of got a draft neck thing going on like it only looks good with the jacket on, but you can't do any posing you know we've gotten so spoiled from the supreme line and the ultimate edition style jackets that.
00:55:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's just kind of, I don't know. And even like in the elite line, they're starting to put articulated jackets in the elite line. We saw it with Kyrie Sane and with Edge. Yeah, if you want to do like a molded like centerpiece, like a vest and then just give us like, like suited arms. I mean, I know that's like a bigger expense, like, you know, like as far as, yeah, swapping arms would be just so much better. You know, I mean, just give us a jacket. This is, this jacket is simple enough. Like it doesn't have like... AEW hates soft goods, man. Yeah, it's ridiculous. They've only done soft goods on like the exclusive figures. Yeah.
00:56:06
Speaker
So yeah, the face scan on this is really good. I prefer the Elite 92, 92 or 94. Whatever. I think it was 92. Yeah, 92. I really like that face scan, but this one's pretty good.
00:56:23
Speaker
All right, Jordan, I'm gonna let you kick off the discussion on this one. I know you got some thoughts. We talked at length on Friday when this was revealed. Ringside collectibles and Mattel Creations exclusive, Ultimate Edition, Monday Night Raw, Attitude Era ring with the new Ultimate Edition cane. Jordan,
Ultimate Edition Kane Packaging Debate
00:56:41
Speaker
just kind of give us your overall thoughts on this release and what this means for the future of the Ultimate Edition line.
00:56:48
Speaker
I hate this, first of all, just because I have to buy a ring to get an Ultimate Edition. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. You can split these off and still sell them both. Like, dude, how many goddamn rings do I need? I got fucking 12 AW rings. I got like, dude, I don't need all these damn rings.
00:57:08
Speaker
It's not even about the space, like the additional cost to buy the ring to get the freaking figure, dude. Seth had a really good idea. Oh, I don't know if this was your, you were Seth knocking this idea around about them giving exclusive access to people who pre-ordered the retail creations. Yeah, they already have all our email addresses on file. Maybe it's just like a nod of like good faith with your most hardcore customers.
00:57:31
Speaker
like offer just the people that back the new gen ring conversion kit. You know what I mean? Let us, let us spend 55 bucks to get a conversion kit with the new posts ropes and ring aprons and, uh, and that cane figure. But I don't know. I mean, money talks. So let's get it.
00:57:48
Speaker
Let's get into my real beef now. Let's move past the ring. Let's get in my real beef. I know what it's going to be. The Ultimate Edition does not have a fucking window. Like, dude, we talked about this two weeks ago. This is going to be a problem for me. Action Figure Attack said online on the forums that this is a one-off. Like, this is not going to happen. Hold on. Seth brought up a good point. He did say that's exactly what someone would say if there was a bunch of backlash.
00:58:15
Speaker
Yeah, I even if this is not a one-off and they do another line like this I feel like it ain't gonna last very long because people are gonna get pissed and
00:58:25
Speaker
Because I know you guys make fun of me for being an MOC, but there is a ton of people that collect MOC. Yeah, I think it's fine. And there's going to be so many people that stop collecting, period, if the windows are gone. I mean, I hate it. I hate the windowless figures. I think it's the most stupidest thing. And I've said it on here before. I hate plastic waste too, but I also hate the fact that you can't even see it. It's part of the game. Plastic is part of the action figure game. But to me, I feel
00:58:55
Speaker
I am, I feel very, very strongly that this is their way of easing people into it and making it acceptable to get a windowless box for an ultimate edition, man. I think this is, yeah, I think, you know, cause they can go back, you know, when everybody's like tone action figure tech, like, Oh, you lied to us. You can be like, well, you know, consumer feedback was very positive for these. What's the benefit? I don't understand the benefit.
00:59:17
Speaker
less plastic. They're getting all this pressure from the environmentalists and stuff to use less plastic on the action figures. I mean, there is a lot of plastic waste, dude. Like if you ever do it, like I'm looking at this stack of figures, we got to unbox. Yeah, it's a great problem to have. I'm not complaining. We're very fortunate that we're in a spot where we can, you know, get a ton of action figures. But
00:59:33
Speaker
It's a shitload of plastic. Let me just let you guys in on a little bit of something. I too, I've been a person who has been, I mean, I've lived a pretty sustainable lifestyle for the most part. Like I make a lot of changes in my life to like reduce plastic waste and recycle and all the things that, you know,
00:59:52
Speaker
that you should do to be a better steward for the planet. However, the cardboard that is used in these boxes is not even recyclable. Recycling is obvious anyway, but that's a conversation for another day. There's a plastic lining on these. There's a shiny film on this, so it's not even actual cardboard. They're still using some sort of plastic in this. You know what I mean?
01:00:19
Speaker
a sheen to it. So it's not just straight up cardboard. I think some of the, so the stuff that Hasbro is rolling out though, the windowless. So not only is it like windowless packaging, it's also like cheaper looking packaging. It said like dry straight up like paper cardboard. So I think I do, you know, I'll give the companies like, you know, they are being
01:00:38
Speaker
You know, they truly are trying to be environmental or whatever with that or at least trying to do it for business purposes, you know, but yeah, it just kills the collector value because you literally are just paying for a box at that point. We've never gonna be able to see the figure. Yeah, we've talked about it before though. They could they could actually reduce more waste if they gave people the option to buy the figures loose. So the people who want them in the box.
01:00:58
Speaker
Let me spend five bucks less or four bucks less, whatever it is. Exactly. People who want to buy them out of the box, like they can buy them and there's no packaging. You could get a packageless option, right? So then you're saving even more packaging, but like it doesn't make sense to me to have, and I mean, I guess it doesn't fix the problem. You're actually creating more cardboard, but like NECA, how they have, if you want to have like a solid window, at least have it where you can open it up and, you know, see.
01:01:23
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man. I hope I'm wrong for all the MOC collectors out there because regardless whether you're, you know, they're the more collectors in the game, that's going to drive the companies to keep producing these awesome figures for us. And there are going to be a lot of people like Jordan said that tap out.
01:01:38
Speaker
if they go all cardboard on this line. What if you get a figure and it's a figure swap? That happens all the time. You never know. What if you're not? What if you're a loose collector and you're going to take it back to the store and be like, oh, this isn't the figure. It's just a pain in the ass. You know what I mean? I don't know. I hate it. I think it's terrible, terrible. Don't fuck this up. I will say this.
01:02:02
Speaker
As much as I'm kind of annoyed by this release for the reasons that you guys have listed so far. The more I look at that figure I think it's must have man, I'm really falling in love with that with that cane figure and it is a very, very, very cool addition to the collection. Yeah. I mean, I also get the retail creation figures on there too as well. So
01:02:22
Speaker
You could be a completionist, essentially, if you need to get the diesel and the doink. And I believe the macho man's up there, too, as well on ringside. Yeah, ringside is listing all the stuff from the new gen project, too. I wonder how many they actually bought. I mean, I got some beef with that, too. Me and Seth talked about that.
01:02:40
Speaker
The limited portion of this is starting to get less and less limited. Like if ringside is just going to buy, this is not a rip on ringside. This is just the way the figure game is right now. They're going to buy 2000 of these and put them up for sale. Like how limited are they really? I mean, it's, I don't know. They kind of set the market on it because those macho before that went up, those macho man, ultimate additions were going for like 200 plus and now kind of one 21 25 is the going rate on that ultimate edition macho from the, uh, the new gen set.
01:03:11
Speaker
Do you guys get any other rings that you would like to see them do? Let's get over our angst on this thing and let's just go back to being excited about figures and figure collecting. Is there any other rings in, you know, possible Ultimate Edition you guys would be interested in? Sheena's shaking her head now. None of you guys bring up a goddamn ring because they're gonna do another Ultimate Edition with a ring. They listen.
01:03:30
Speaker
I think we're getting WCW. I could see two things. I could see us getting a WCW ring. I don't know what figure you're throwing with that, but I'm thinking like an early 90s WCW ring with like the crosshairs type logo, like the yellow ropes and stuff, or more likely what I see is a like 2005 SmackDown ring with the blue ropes and the silver posts. And we get our first Ultimate Edition Kurt Angle. He's back under a Legends deal.
01:03:58
Speaker
Yeah, that's how I'm thinking we get our first curtain angle with a Smackdown ring. I'm thinking if you do a WCW ring, obviously there's no sting, which he's kind of synonymous with WCW. They are back in good graces with Ric Flair, so you could definitely add another Ric Flair Ultimate edition.
01:04:18
Speaker
to a WCW crosshairs. That'd be an easy one to do. Yeah, I could totally see that. We could get Ultimate Edition Vader also. He's got the new World War One. We'll figure it out. Yeah, so don't fret on the WCW. I would like to see just something to jump to a new one. It would probably be way more expensive. But I do like the newer rings with the light up posts.
01:04:37
Speaker
and all that shit like do like the the led posts with the led skirts or the two sides that'd be pretty cool like i said it'd probably be super expensive but that'd be pretty awesome to have i think if anything i don't yeah sure guts right now because they're probably going to make a a new uh a modern era ring with the light up post jordan there's no ring that you would want man i am uh
01:05:03
Speaker
I'm just offended that you guys keep bringing this up. Oh man! There is one ring I would want and they could do all the figures with it and I'd be perfectly fine with it. Give me the chamber of horrors ring. Oh man, yes. With a full setup duel with the butcher, the Steiner, Steve, Cactus Jack. It needs to have the little switch in the corner where the thing doesn't stay up, you know? I hate when the thing doesn't stay up.
01:05:29
Speaker
Yeah, and then you could get a little thing where you could just set the little corner on fire, you
Extra Cooler Podcast Introduction
01:05:34
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know? Well, we're getting a little carried away there, Jean. Maybe we're not going to start playing with fire now. Now we're going to have everybody coming at us for our figs. Like, PETA comes at everyone for their meat. We don't need everybody coming at us for our action figures. All right, let's hear from Extra Cooler, and then we will keep Spooky Season going with Tronquillo and Chill.
01:05:57
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Hey everyone, it's Nick, better known as Extra Cooler. Is there anything better than diving back into the wrestling archives and watching classic matches from the past?
01:06:05
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Yes, there is. It's doing that with your buddies while cracking jokes and enjoying some ice cold beverages. If that sounds like fun to you, then be sure to check out my new podcast, The Extra Cooler Show, where each episode, my Survivor Series team and I review an old school match chosen by you, the listeners. The Extra Cooler Show is available wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe and follow us for new episodes every other Thursday morning.
01:06:36
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El Idolo!
01:06:55
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Hi to so nice we had to play it twice and I got a funny feeling we're going to be hearing that music in the very near future. Once again but it's time for Trunkilo and chill where we give you guys
Spooky Season Movie Recommendations
01:07:05
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a recommendation for something outside the ring for some entertainment options. And again it's our first episode in October so we're going to kick this off with some scary movie talks you know you are the screen Queen so start us off give the listeners a scary movie recommendation.
01:07:21
Speaker
So I'm going to give you a combo platter and the movie probably won't come as a surprise. Most of you have probably already seen the movie, but you got to kick off your spooky season by watching the original Halloween. It's just such a classic. I think we've become so desensitized to like, you know, the torture porn and the gore and all the things that we're so used to in modern day horror or like, you know, super, supernatural stuff. Whereas like Halloween just hits all the right notes, you know, it's just like this,
01:07:50
Speaker
overwhelming sense of dread throughout the whole movie. It's just it's so good but I want you to pair it with the ringer. I think I've recommended this before but it is one of my favorite series that they've done. They did a Halloween unmasked series on the ringer podcast where they go deep dive into all of the Halloween movies and they talk to you know
01:08:14
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John Carpenter's whole background yeah they do all of it and it's just it's it's a really really cool series and they even go into the new uh the new Halloween movies with Danny McBride and all that kind of stuff so definitely check it out it's on the ringer it's called Halloween unmasked and uh get your Halloween fix and watch the classic.
01:08:31
Speaker
And we got the conclusion of the most recent Halloween movies, Halloween ends, coming up on Peacock. So I'm sure 99% of our listeners are already subscribed to it. So it's going to be, I think, October 14th at day views, which I've been pretty happy with the last couple of movies they've done. Oh, yeah. I like it.
01:08:48
Speaker
All right, Jordan, you're up next.
Trick or Treat's Cult Status
01:08:51
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So this is my personal favorite Halloween movie. We probably watch it three times every October. I'm going to go with Trick or Treat. Yes. It was either my Halloween or Trick or Treat. I'm glad you said Trick or Treat. Jordan's still mine. So yeah, Cosign 100%. So this movie, for the first time ever, is going to be in theaters this month. There are certain theaters that are showing it. It has never been played in theaters. So check your local theaters. And if you've never seen this movie, definitely go see it in the theaters.
01:09:19
Speaker
That might be worth getting a babysitter for, Shane. I know. We're checking it out. We've watched that so many times. I mean, that's like our that and the OG Halloween, like our yearly scary movies you have to watch. Yeah. I texted Sheena the day I found out that it was coming to theaters and she's like, no way. I know. I was like, where did you see that?
01:09:37
Speaker
It's a shame it didn't go to theaters originally made it better though. Yeah, it's a little bit of more of a definitely a cult movie And yeah, I always liked the anthology movies especially for like scary movies. They really work It's got the right amount of like campiness with the with the scariness with the gore like it's also so well balanced and their thing is just so
01:09:57
Speaker
The aesthetics of that movie, man. Oh, it's perfect, dude. Just looks perfect. Whoever the cinematographer was for that and who did the set design, it was outstanding. Yeah. I want to live in a Halloween neighborhood like that. That's what have been one of my dreams since I was a kid. The same kind of Halloween neighborhood that you see in Hocus Pocus and Trick or Treat. Everybody's got jack-o'-lanterns on their porch. There's fall leaves everywhere. It's just the perfect vibe. Marco, what's your pick?
01:10:24
Speaker
I'm gonna go with uh, you gotta go with an old favor not really an old favorite But obviously there's tons of movies you can go with but uh, I think the house house of a thousand corpses is a good movie Yeah, you're definitely hitting on one of mine and Jordan's favorites, too Yeah, that give a shout out to the our pot foundation brothers turn vocal tavern. They're broken BCR episode This week is all about house of a thousand court. How did I miss? Yeah, just dropped. I think today maybe oh man
01:10:51
Speaker
It is based around Halloween as well. So it's not like it's like out of it's not just a horror movie. The whole theme of it is Halloween base. So definitely watch it. If you haven't already, who hasn't seen House of 1000 Corpses? Love that movie. It's so good. I was actually reading there's a there's a rumor that I think the director of trick or treat said they're heavily involved in
01:11:13
Speaker
getting ready to drop a sequel to Trick or Treat. I'm not sure if it's going to be- It's been in development for a little while. Yeah, it's been taking it around. Yeah, it came back out again. I guess it's possibly going to happen. I'm not sure if it's going to be like a streaming type of deal or theaters or something like that. But yeah, it's pretty exciting that they're going to drop a sequel to it.
Hocus Pocus 2 Critique
01:11:35
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Yeah, I think you guys kind of ran down probably my top three favorite scary movies of all time So I don't really have anything I can add to that Yeah, I'll try to spark a little bit of discussion though. Have you guys watched hocus pocus 2 yet? That's definitely been one of the most anticipated sequels for for 90s kids like us for a long time Did you guys watch that yet? I have not we went to a party last Friday night. They had a hocus pocus party I didn't watch the movie. I got drunk in the garage, but I
01:12:02
Speaker
Hell yeah. Shayna, you're it. Give us the official Chick Foley show review of Hocus Pocus 2. I love Hocus Pocus and it's so funny because Seth the other day just said, he's like, Shayna, he's like, does it just chap your ass that all of the basics have turned Hocus Pocus into a character trait for themselves? He's like, you're a Hocus Pocus.
01:12:24
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OG, you were a fan before it became cool to be a fan.
01:12:33
Speaker
First of all, the witches just, they just look old. You know what I mean? Ouch. They looked old in the first ones and it just, man, it really is distracting how, you know. Woman on woman hate on here, dude. I don't really like Bette Midler anyway. I think she's kind of just trash, but. Whoa, goddamn. Yeah, it's fun for the whole family. Let's get it moving to the next segment. All right, let's go, dude. Let's dig in on fucking hocus pocus too, man.
01:13:03
Speaker
This cowgirl shooting tonight. I'm coming to it from a very, like an adult that watched it in the nineties. You know what I'm coming to? What's the, what's the freaking podcast? You don't gotta, you don't gotta frame your thoughts. Just tell us how you feel. Speak on it. Let them know. So if you're like, if you're a little kid, like my, my kids love the Hocus Pocus movie. They really enjoyed Hocus Pocus too. It's the same characters. They, they enjoyed the familiarity and
01:13:29
Speaker
you know, they hit on all the, you know, nostalgia points and kind of like tied things back in. I feel like they did a little bit too much of that. And they made the witches like, super corny and campy and too singy and songy. And, you know, for me personally, it started okay. But then it just as the movie progressed, I was just like, Okay, like, this is not
01:13:48
Speaker
This is not for me. It didn't recapture the magic. It's all about how you finish. Well, did you? I thought that was going to be like, I thought I was throwing it out. It was going to be like 20 seconds of like, yeah, it's fun. Good movie, dude. She never laid it down. Yeah, that's what I've heard too. My wife is a huge fan of Hocus Pocus and I actually bought her the buck that was like a sequel.
01:14:11
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to it, to the movie. And it actually, it has all the original characters in it. They're older, like they're adults now and all this stuff. So it was kind of weird that they just did a sequel without that whole storyline. They should have just copied the book that they released. Yeah. I just think when you try to
01:14:26
Speaker
When you try to just capture something 30 years later, it's just not going to be the same. I mean, the level of technology and stuff in the movie, it's like a modern movie. It just didn't work. Because that was the cool thing about the original is in the 90s, no cell phones, none of that jazz. A lot of movies from the 90s that would not work nowadays just based off the technological advances we have.
01:14:51
Speaker
All right, let's hear from J-bonut coming down the aisle and then we will get into listener mail.
01:15:02
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01:15:29
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01:15:43
Speaker
All right, I don't know if we got 21 questions, but we do get a super sized mail bag this week. Cause me and Sheena were originally going to do a chicks quickie last night and the kids just didn't cooperate with bedtime. And you know, we had extremals coming up. So we decided to just get the whole game together for a show tonight. So Sheena hit us with this week's batch of a listener
Wrestling Figures Market Saturation
01:16:03
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mail.
01:16:03
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All right, one of our OG fan members, Sam Rosenthal says, do you think all these additional- Current Foley-Pixley champ. Current Foley-Pixley champ, Sam Rosenthal. That's how I'll introduce him from now on. Do you think all these additional lines can sustain success or even make profits? So many lines, new figures coming out, but people have only so much to spend.
01:16:25
Speaker
So I think Chella's doing good because they were kind of the first ones to jump in on the new wave excitement for retros. Zombie Sailor's doing good because he already had a thriving toy business selling old stuff he found from the 90s. And his figures are definitely the best of these. The rest of these companies, I don't know, man. There's a lot of other kind of C-level companies that are trying to get in the mix right now. I think like CMW is one of them, like Rush Collectibles, which
01:16:54
Speaker
You know, hats off to them. They're doing more than I'm doing in the figure space, obviously, but I've just not been a fan of what they've been putting out so far. I don't know how successful they're going to be. And then Powertown is the new one. You know, we're the hardest, probably the hardest of the hardcore figure collectors and.
01:17:11
Speaker
Marco and Jordan both said that they're not even supporting it. So that really makes me question what their kind of future prospects are looking like business-wise. So I'm a fan of it. The more figures, the better. But yeah, there's definitely a lot of companies right now that I think are probably going to end up losing money because they're trying to ride the COVID wave, right? Like during the pandemic, people were really getting into collectibles. But now we follow that up with a recession and people are kind of getting out of the kind of just furlough with spending we were doing.
01:17:38
Speaker
So I don't know, man, I think a lot of these companies are going to end up losing some money. What do you think, Jordan? Yeah, it's just, I don't know, man, it just for me personally, especially being a min on card collector, it just it gets to be so much stuff that I just at some point I have to draw a line of what I'm collecting. Yeah, they're all really cool and stuff. But
01:17:59
Speaker
I just feel like a lot of people are going to be just like me and just have to draw the line somewhere. And so many people collect elites and ultimate additions and AWW figures. I just, I feel like your collection can only hold so much. I mean, obviously Seth's going to collect all these until the paint runs dry and the resin's done. But that's, I mean, that's just who Seth is. He's completionist. He loves having one of every figure.
01:18:24
Speaker
I passed on Rush and I passed on the CMW figures. Okay, so I mean, if you're passing on figures, that's a bad sign for people. Yeah. Especially because they have some people that have never gotten figures before and stuff.
Collecting Wrestling Figures: Personal Limits
01:18:37
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Marco, what are you collecting outside of jazz version Mattel, Marco? Nothing much. I mean, maybe like Super 7 when they dropped something.
01:18:47
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Yeah, super seven school like they just really got five years to wait for it. Yeah, that's true You dabble in cello, right? I think I think we both got a order I think we're on a combo order for the Alice no figures. Yeah, I feel these gonna send over to us from the UK Yeah, but I have the I actually got the atom bomb too, which I totally forgot I pre-ordered but yeah, I have the atom bomb from a cello toys
01:19:11
Speaker
Yeah, like I said, maybe Super Seven, if they drop something like they have that, they just released on their IG page, they're coming out with an Ultimate Edition ODB, if you're familiar with that. See, I would buy something like that because
01:19:28
Speaker
I grew up on Wu-Tang Clan and that figure is actually pretty cool. It has a soft goods jacket, different heads, different hands, all that stuff. So what you would see in a Super 7 Ultimate, that's what you're getting in the ODB figure. So stuff like that. I've been trying to put my focus on those niche type of figures and stuff like that. Like Jordan said, you definitely have to kind of
01:19:54
Speaker
you know, draw the line somewhere. Like, you get to like, you know, take it like a Cessia collection and say, hey, do I need this? Like, like, like you said, we pass on to Power Town. A lot of the AEW figures that have come out I pass on to, like the newer, like unmatched and unrivaled stuff. So just being very picky and choosy on what I add to my collection nowadays. So, but if it's Cody, he's definitely getting purchased. I mean,
01:20:18
Speaker
That's not a pass. If it's Warrior or Cody, it's in the collection. That's not going to change. Warrior gets no pass. All right. Brian Toppley, I think he meant to send this question into the Extra Cooler show because it's MLB related. So I want to hear you guys thoughts. I know everyone's high on the start of NFL season lately, but I need to know who everyone is betting on in the MLB playoffs.
Aaron Judge's Home Run Hype
01:20:43
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Favorites, underdogs, something crazy you think is going to happen.
01:20:46
Speaker
So I couldn't even tell you who's in the major league baseball playoffs but I do want to sound off on something that is really just kind of grinded my gears as a lifelong sports fan the last couple of weeks. Dude why are we making such a gigantic deal about Aaron judge hitting 62 home runs man like why are we acting like Sammy Sosa.
01:21:04
Speaker
You're going to trigger the extra cooler. Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds didn't fucking smash that, right? Everybody's going nuts because he hit home run number 62. Congrats, dude. You're still 11 home runs behind Barry Bonds' all-time record, man. I get it. That was a steroid error. But at the end of the day, I'm sure the pitchers they were going against were using the shit too.
01:21:24
Speaker
We don't discount the steroid era in wrestling, dude. All the championships still count. Exactly. You got to assume everybody was still playing on the same level playing field at that time. And Barry Bonds never failed a drug test also. They were doing cut-ins during his... Yeah.
01:21:44
Speaker
at his advanced during football games and shit. And he's acting so dramatic about it, man. 62 is cool, right? It's the American League record. It's cool that he did it as a Yankee. He wrote Roger Maris' record, which was awesome. Hats off to him. But I don't like how they're just trying to go straight men in black style and erase all our memories. 98, 99, and 2000 never happened. So I don't know. Jordan, you're probably the biggest baseball fan that I'm close with, man. What's your take on this whole Aaron Judge thing?
01:22:13
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So.
01:22:15
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I get what they're trying to do. They're trying to erase history, right? You're not crazy at all. So like this is the thing is baseball purists always have to have like the last laugh. Like same reason why in the hall of fame, nobody gets to be a unanimous pick. Like even though there's been numerous people that should have been just baseball purists always want to have like the last say that's why they're doing this. Um, no, you're not crazy at all. It's the most annoying fucking thing ever that they're,
01:22:44
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they're continuing to do this and I hate it and just every part of me because I love baseball man I always have since I was a kid and yeah dude the fact that they're just trying to gloss this over I mean so said McGuire there
01:22:57
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their home run chase that summer saved baseball. I will always believe that. I've never been a baseball fan in my entire life. And I remember that. I remember watching baseball with my parents when that was going on. It was my eighth grade year. We would race home from football practice.
MVP Debate: Shohei Otani vs. Aaron Judge
01:23:13
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And my parents would pick me up from football practice after school. And we would race home to watch the Cubs or Cardinals, whoever was playing that night, to see what was going to happen next in that home run chase, man. That's the most fun baseball has ever been to me. So Jordan, is it? It does. It pisses me off that they're trying to make it.
01:23:27
Speaker
I get what they're doing. I know why they're doing it. Um, they, they just, it's just a baseball purist thing, but yeah, dude, nobody's ever topping Barry bonds. It's just not going to happen. Like Jordan, what were you going to ask? Yeah. Like Jordan, is there anyone like, like the, the reason why everyone loved that. So some require thing was because it was like a race happening. Is there anything is, is there anyone like close to him?
01:23:52
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in this Hobart racer, he's literally just by himself. That's what killed it too is because you have to have someone that's going with you that's pushing you. So the closest person was Kyle Schwabber from the Phillies and he was 16 behind. He had 46. So just completely killed it. There's no race at all. It's just, I don't know.
01:24:09
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It just killed it. So, you know, I identify as a baseball hater. I'm going to out myself, though, as somebody who does, you know, at least on the fringes, keep up with it, dude. I got a hot take. I don't think Aaron Judge is MVP this year, dude. I still think Shohei Itani should be the MVP, man. The shit he's doing is like create a player stuff on baseball games, dude. The fact that this dude's like
01:24:31
Speaker
a one of the best hitters in the league and also one of the best pitchers. So, you know, most, Sashin, you know, most time pitchers only pitch like once every five days. And that's it. This dude, he's a starting pitcher, but then on his off days, he also like plays in the fields of hitter and stuff. And he's just like incredible, man. Like what do you think, Jordan? Who do you think is better at a judge or Oh, Tony? I got a hotter take on that.
01:24:51
Speaker
I think as long as Otani doesn't get injured, he should win the MVP every season because of what he's doing. Like this is crazy. This is not going to happen again. This dude is a, a sigh young candidate at pitcher. Cause he's so good. I mean, he started the all-star game at pitcher. He's one of the best hitters in baseball. Like what he does is insane. And I know that's going to offend some people. It is what it is. It's just, I think Otani is unreal.
01:25:16
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Not, not taking anything away from judge. He had an incredible season. I hate the Yankees. It's a known fact. I mean, anybody who's a sports fan hates the Yankees. It's, it's like hating the Patriots. Like it's just a fun thing to do. So yeah, I mean, he had a great season, but I'm with you. I think Otani should win every year as long as he's healthy.
01:25:35
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Do you guys remember that Brendan Fraser movie from the 90s, The Scout? Yes. Yeah, that's what Shohei Otani is, dude. They literally made a movie about this because it was so unbelievable and that's what this guy is, man. This guy's crazy. Well, stay tuned to the Pod Foundation thread. Nick, Matt, Jordan, and Seth are going to start their MLB spin-off as part of the Pod Foundation.
01:25:58
Speaker
Then we didn't even answer poor Brian's question. Jordan, since you're the baseball official, who's the favorite? Who's your favorite? So as much as I would love to see a subway series for the title, I really think we're going to end up with either Yankees, Astros, versus the Dodgers. I just got a feeling that's what we're headed towards. As far as dark horses, I would love to see the Mariners do something. First time in the playoffs in 21 years, I really want to see them do something.
01:26:26
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All right, and there is your MLB wrap up for the week. I don't think anybody that tuned in to the start of the show, they heard Rebel Heart keying up, thought we were going to go four or five minutes on baseball, but here we are. The people that are still here an hour and 26 minutes into the show, there are hard cores. I think they would listen to us talk about whatever. So thank you guys for being here. We love you, Mucho.
01:26:47
Speaker
current PixLink champion, Sam Rosenthal, has another one for us. What do you think the future of ROH is? My question would be, if you cannot get a TV deal for them, why not just do live shows or at least a standalone YouTube show? So there was some news that was dropping today that a TV deal isn't going to work. So it sounds like a TV deal is imminent, which would be cool. This question came in yesterday.
01:27:09
Speaker
Yeah, let the let the roh guys do their own thing because i'm a fan I like it and I I always like the roh vibe And aws definitely got enough of roster where you kind of spin that off and have two different brands Um Let's say, you know that doesn't come to fruition You already got a pretty solid youtube following just change either aw dark or dark elevation to roh and wrestling fans will find it We saw that with nwa power good having youtube press
01:27:36
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, we did 100%. Like if you have a quality product, which they could definitely do with ROH, wrestling fans will find it. So they definitely need something though, because just them kind of clogging up the AEW TV time is not working. It's not working. So they need to do something to spin it off. I'm a fan of it. I want them to keep ROH going, but I don't want them spending time on dynamite rampage on Ring of Honor shit.
Is Bowling a Sport?
01:27:58
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All right, our good buddy Zach Hertzler says, not wrestling related, but is bowling a sport? I say yes, it is, because while I can drink while bowling and I'm pretty, I'm pretty okay at it in my opinion. Marco, is bowling a sport? I'm going to say yes. There is a ball involved with it. So yes, I'm going to say bowling ball. And in that case, that chick fully shows a sport. That chick fully shows a sport. Oh yeah, I know exactly. That's what, that's what I was getting to.
01:28:23
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We had, we had two. Sheena was watching it. That was a spectator. I was a front row spectator to the cheek fully sport show. Put your NASCAR cage up in front of you.
01:28:37
Speaker
Oh man. Yeah, I agree. I think bowling is a sport. If you've ever bowled in your life, you, you know, how freaking difficult it is just to like, you know, be, be actually good at it. So, uh, I think bowling is a sport. Yeah. Coordination timing, all that stuff. I'm good at everything when I drink just to work clear bowling golf. You name it. Act like you act like you don't got the bumpers up, Jordan. I didn't say I didn't. I just said I'm good at it when I drink.
01:29:04
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All right, and Zach follows up with, here's where we're gonna talk about pumpkin beers. Pumpkin beers, yes or no? If so, what is your favorite?
01:29:12
Speaker
I will take like a spicy pumpkin beer like it can be like a pumpkin beer like base, but I need like some cinnamon and some nutmeg mixed in there and stuff. Yeah, I can't stand just like pure like typically it's a wheat beer and they just throw a bunch of pumpkin flavor in there. I'm not a fan of that but I'll take like a nice spicy fall beer with some pumpkin notes in it. Yeah, if it's too sweet, it's not for me too sweet.
01:29:36
Speaker
it is not for me. I like like you said the warming spices. I even like it on like a you know like a heavier beer like a stout or like what's the other one what's the other heavy type of beer. You got your stouts and porters. Porters yeah like you know like something like that where it's like you know got those warming spices. I'm here for that. I really like that super sweet ones. I don't really like
01:29:58
Speaker
that O'Connor, they did the children of the corn beer last year. I remember that one. That was good. Cause they actually had like a little bit of salt in there too, man. It was just like, I can't stand you straight up like pumpkin beer, but I'll take like pumpkin mixed with some other stuff. How's the one you're drinking tonight, Jordan? It's actually very good. What kind of a vibe is it? So like, uh, there's a liquor store that's by my work and I stop in there a couple of times a week and this guy always
01:30:22
Speaker
every time they get Halloween beers anyway sets me some aside and gives them to me and lets me try them so he can tell the customers whether they're good or not. This one's really good. Very, very, very good. I'm with Seth though, dude. I like, there was a pumpkin beer last year that I had. I can't find it this year, but it was a pumpkin beer and it had a hint of jalapeno in it.
01:30:44
Speaker
It was phenomenal, but I can't find it this year because I was going to try to get it because I remember I, we were recording a podcast and I told you guys about it and I couldn't find it again. So I looked for it again this year to see if I can get everybody some, but no dice.
01:30:58
Speaker
Yeah, because pumpkin is really good in savory dishes and stuff like that. Pumpkin is good savory, but I think sometimes it just, the hype of pumpkin spice and all of that really kind of took over. And there's so many crappy pumpkin products out there and pumpkin beers out there that it just kind
Pumpkin Beer Preferences
01:31:13
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of overshadows. Cause you know, there's some really good gems out there and some really good breweries.
01:31:16
Speaker
making delicious pumpkin beer but it's just they they get wiped off the map by all the the shit out there the pumpkin spice beers and ciders and trader joe's apparently has a really good one a really good pumpkin beer i haven't had it but apparently they have a good one
01:31:32
Speaker
Trader Joe's has a cookie butter IPA. And we weren't able to find it at ours. That's only around, they drop it like twice a year and I've never been able to get my hands on it. It's like 9% alcohol too. Yeah, if anybody out there has been struck from across it. It's the Speculos IPA. Yeah, if you come across it this holiday season, make sure you grab us some. We're PayPal ready. So overall, yeah, pumpkin beers are a yes from me if they're well done. Last question from our good buddy Johnny J.B. When you were a kid, which Halloween movie
01:32:02
Speaker
What character scared you the most? Child's play. It was Chucky for you. 100%, dude. Like I said, I've talked about this a few times, man. The first child's play just scared the shit out of me. I feel like it was about a two-year period where if I heard any type of scurrying or anything in the hallway once I was in bed at night, I just knew Chucky was going to kill me. And that was it, man.
01:32:25
Speaker
Looking back, I feel like it was in my house that we lived in from 91 to 93. I have distinct memories of being in the bunk beds that me and my brother had then and having this feeling. So I couldn't have been more than seven years old when I saw Child's Play. And that one just really scared the shit out of me for the most time. I don't think there was another movie that really sparked any active long-term fear in me other than the first Child's Play. So yeah, for me, it's 100% Chucky and Child's Play.
01:32:54
Speaker
For me, it's pet cemetery. I talked about this when I went on Lumber Jillville. I did an interview with Lumber Jillville. If you're not following, make sure you are following Erin over at Lumber Jillville. Great stuff.
01:33:04
Speaker
Um, pet cemetery just scared me so badly because there was a, the, the mom on that show had a sister that died and her name was Zelda. Has any of you seen pet cemetery, the original cemetery? Anyway, the, the Zelda character on that movie scared me so much. She was absolutely terrifying. And then also the part where, uh, Gage, the little boy cuts.
01:33:27
Speaker
the Achilles tendon of the old neighbor. Like I just, for some reason that like stuck in my mind. And every time I stepped off- Chop that motherfucker down the side. Yeah, every time I stepped off the bed as a child, I was always like jumping way out. Like, I'm not gonna let this dude cut my Achilles. So definitely Pet Sematary was probably the movie that stuck with me the most as a kid. What about you, Jordan?
01:33:47
Speaker
Oh, it's a hundred percent it. Like Pennywise scared the living shit out of me when I was a kid. That sewer scene, I'm not shitting you. I avoided fucking sewers like, like the plague. I'd be like right into the pool. Were you going to seek out sewers otherwise? No, I'm dead serious. Like I'd be right into the pool and like, if something like washed into the sewer, like I could see it, like out of the corner. It's gone. Just gone. I'm out of there. Like I'm going right back home. I'm like,
01:34:12
Speaker
scared shit less. And I'd tell my mom and she'd be like, what is wrong with you? I'm like, oh, nothing. She didn't know I watched it, but yeah, that movie fucked with me. And then the first time I saw it, they were showing it, they showed it in segments on, I can't remember what channel it was when I was a kid. It was a miniseries. So it was on segments for everybody. It wasn't a movie. It was a miniseries. Oh yeah. So yeah, I guess that's why I was watching it on ABC. Yeah. And I was just like, you know, oh my God, like this is the scariest thing I've ever seen.
01:34:39
Speaker
Marco, what about you, man? What scared you as a kid? Oh, man. I'm going to probably go with Nightmare on Elm Street, Freddy Krueger, only because my cousin, I would sleep over his house. I don't know why he had a poster of a freaking Freddy Krueger in his room, right across from his bed. He had bunk beds, so I'd be laying up on the top bunk, just staring eye to eye with a freaking
01:35:08
Speaker
No, it was like it was basically like yeah you lay on your side and you're looking at the wall and right directly as you're looking at like he had his like his door you walk into his room right next to his door was a Freddy Krueger poster of him like with his you know his claw up just kind of like looking over his shoulder that type of deal and you'd see them before you go to sleep.
01:35:27
Speaker
What the hell? I'll have to send you guys a picture of the big... My cousin Jeremy got me this big Freddy Krueger light that lived in my room. It was still there when you started dating. Yeah, so I had this big Freddy Krueger light in my room. I'll have to send you a picture of it. Yeah, the ceiling posters were a thing in the 80s and 90s. Why was that a thing?
01:35:48
Speaker
Because you lay in your bed at night and you just look up at the ceiling, see your poster, see your dream girl, see your favorite athlete. See Freddy Krueger. See Freddy Krueger apparently. Good job. Yeah. Freddy Krueger was pretty terrifying because there's nowhere to go. Once you're asleep, you got to go to sleep. You're always vulnerable to Freddy Krueger. That's a good choice. The original was really straight. Oh my God.
01:36:10
Speaker
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01:36:33
Speaker
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01:36:56
Speaker
use code chick fully to save 10% at ringside collectibles and use code PF10 to save 10% at chalk line. And I'm in the hot seat for the trivia question of the week. I'm going for two straight. Sheena, Sheena previewed the card for starters. She said she thinks I got this, but you know, I'm feeling a little shaky. I'm about five beers deep. So hit it, Sheena.
01:37:18
Speaker
If you missed this one, dude, we're just canceling the show straight up. What are the first names of the Bushwhackers? Oh, but you and Luke, how does he get you get WrestleMania five.
01:37:34
Speaker
That's literally... That's literally... Too straight, baby. You know what? You want to know something that's really funny, Jordan? The question you got about who was ringside at Mr. T? Who was the little person that was ringside at... But Mr. T? Was it Little Haiti? Was that what the answer was? Yeah, Little Haiti. Sheena somehow drew that same card tonight. I drew that same card tonight. I always just put them in random order. And then we always choose the question at random. And it chose that question again. I was like, holy shit. How did that even happen?
01:38:01
Speaker
All right, it is Extreme Rules Week. We've ushered in spooky season. Sheena, leave us with some closing thoughts for this episode of the Chick Foley Show. Let's get extreme.