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Goal Line: Season 2 Finale
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The boys wrap up the 2nd season of the Goal Line with a discussion of the Super Bowl squash match and a quick peek ahead to the 2025 season.
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Superbowl Aftermath & Season Outlook
00:00:14
Speaker
What is up goal line listeners? We are officially in the dark ages. We're looking at about seven months before we have any meaningful football again, but we at a, I wouldn't say it was super compelling, but it did give us a lot to talk about an incredible Superbowl last night. We're going to dive into it from every angle, but first let me introduce my best friend, my co-host Jordan. What's going on, man? Yeah, it was a, it was definitely a game, man. I'll say that it was not what I was expecting at all, but uh,
00:00:41
Speaker
It was a game. And yeah, now we're in the the dark days of the year 2025. Just got to sit here. And I mean, I love all sports that knows this. But dude, football is just so much different, man. It's just it's just such an event, dude. It's the scarcity of the games. You know, every single game is crucial. And for the most part, you get all the games on Saturday and Sunday. It's just an it's an event in the way that our other big sports in America just aren't. man Yeah, I agree. All right. Let's get into it.
Superbowl Highlights: Jalen Hurts & Eagles Defense
00:01:16
Speaker
So to me, the only way to lead this off is I feel like we have to talk about Jalen Hurts first and foremost. I mean, just an absolute legacy game for him last night, basically played a perfect game. I mean, there's there's not much else he could have done in that game besides that pick. I just.
00:01:35
Speaker
I can't say enough good things about this guy and the, the doubting has to end now. Like we can't doubt this guy anymore. He's the first guy from the 2020 class to win a Superbowl as far as the quarterback class is concerned. So that was burrow to Herbert Jalen hurts and um Jordan love. He's the first guy out of that class to win. I just dude, I mean, I don't understand how people still don't like this dude and be doubt him. He's won at every level he's played football at all he's done is win. So I just, I don't get it anymore. And yeah, he definitely deserves his flowers for last night and this season as a whole.
00:02:13
Speaker
he absolutely crushed it man like he said pretty much perfect game man like really nailed it dude his last uh so for this season man he went 16 and 2 42 total touchdowns eight total turnovers and if you take just his last 14 games so you know he was a little bit shaky to start the season and it felt like he had some hate you know just kind of stuck with him with the filly fan base all year his last 14 starts he's 14 and 0 36 touchdowns two interceptions man like dude absolutely crushed it yeah i mean he's he's not the absolute most efficient passer like pass by pass but dude doesn't make mistakes seems to make big plays and dude even more importantly in that man everything we've ever seen a him he seems like an absolutely rock solid guy man the kind of dude you want
00:02:57
Speaker
leading your franchise for the next decade. ah Yeah, I mean, he did he's a gym all the way around and and Philly's lucky to have him and hopefully, you know, that's put to bed. That's a tough fan base. You know, dude, Don the McNabb, I think he was a damn good quarterback. You know, they, the fans basically ran him out of town as well. That's kind of just par for the course.
00:03:14
Speaker
with the Philly fan base, you know, the Philly fans are probably the biggest reason why I didn't really have a rooting interest in the game last night because as much as I was just sick of the Chiefs and all the stuff around them, I really couldn't bring myself to cheer for Philly because no offense to the ones listening. I'm sure there's some beast ones out there, but there's some absolute scumbag Philadelphia Eagles fans out there, man, and I just can't get with it. Um, but yeah, hopeful hopefully they're they're done with all the jail and hurts later. Who knows? I'm sure if he start, if they start O and two and he struggles at the gate, the bluebirds will be back. I have no doubt.
00:03:41
Speaker
Yeah, that's the other thing. And I'm glad you brought it up. Jalen hurts just seems like just a top class human more than anything like dude, which is nowadays is it's tough to find someone that like he just seems like a good person. I just there's nothing you can say negative about this dude. And Yeah. So the other thing I wanted to bring up is that technically the the Falcons were the only team that beat the Eagles this year when they were fully healthy. So let's go. What what a season for
Team Highlights: Falcons & AJ Brown's Journey
00:04:08
Speaker
the Falcons. That was also a Super Bowl win last night. bro The Falcons, they beat the Eagles and they came with a cut hair beating the Chiefs, dude. They should have beat the Chiefs, man. like
00:04:17
Speaker
Literally like, dude, what what could have been, man? Dude, they beat the Chiefs and they took the they took the commanders to the absolute limit. So the Falcons were right there with three of the four teams that were were left in the final four, man. That's crazy. um The second person I kind of want to talk about is AJ Brown. like I mean, i Seth that loves AJ Brown, obviously he was a Tennessee Titan before he was an eagle. so our Darkest day in recent Titans franchise history, dude. It's like Steve McNair getting shot and then AJ Brown's like the distant number two for Darkest Days with the Titans, man. Still still can't get over that. Yeah. I mean, it's been well noted that AJ Brown struggled a lot with like mental health and um that kind of stuff. And again, just another person that seemed like a good human. like
00:05:03
Speaker
everything that like comes out during the season when the Eagles play about AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts just don't like each other and stuff like that. I just I mean, when you watch them play like I just I don't see a man I just think the media loves to stir shit up and I mean, dude, they just, they, they beat a team that was going for a three-peat and I don't know what anyone anyone saw last night, but I did not see any dysfunction and from the top to the bottom in that organization. And AJ Brown is right there with it. So yeah, I'm really happy for him, man.
00:05:36
Speaker
Yeah, he was crushed at man hell of a force I mean it really had a it was a dominating playoff run man all the way around They they beat the hell out of the Packers crushed the commanders had a classic against the Rams But you know after looking at the run in totality you wonder if maybe if the game hadn't been Such a snowy mess. Maybe they end up running away with that one too. Maybe maybe the snow was a little bit of an equalizer That was a damn good Rams team Yeah. Come play that time as well. But yeah, the Rams are really the only team that tested a man. And last night, you know, it was, there was a sliver of hope left at halftime, man, but they slammed the door pretty ah shut ah pretty, pretty convincingly there early in the third quarter to to wrap that thing up. um Yeah. We'll just hit on a couple more things for the eels. Then we'll go to the chief side of it. Um, say Quan, I mean,
00:06:22
Speaker
I don't even know what else we can say about this guy anymore. I did think it was bullshit that he didn't get any first place MVP votes. Like that dude was on another level this season. And and if we see that again, I mean, hopefully they, they take more respect of it, but he did unanimously win offensive player of the year. So, um, we'll give him that dude. Nick Sirianni deserves everyone's apologies for what they said about him. Yeah. I just, again, if they would have pulled the fans last year, he would have been fired after the season, man.
00:06:51
Speaker
and shit He would have been fired after three games this year too. like There was two separate times he could have been fired in the last 12 months and they stuck with him man and it paid off and it paid off in a big way. That dude coached his ass off last night, man. that They were ready to go. The game plan was sound. It was just a perfect game plan. yeah and That leads me right into the Eagles defense. Like Sirianni hiring Vic Fangio to run this Eagles defense.
00:07:18
Speaker
Dude, when you can literally get home almost 50% of the time, not even blitzing, they did not blitz one time last night and they were in Mahomes face every single play. like We said they were getting so much, they were getting so much pressure that even on the plays when the, the past pro held up, you could see my homes was still jittery and like, you know, looking to escape the pocket or anything. He was, he was running into sacks sometimes because there was so much pressure most of the time. And we we talked about it. We've, I mean, this is our second year goal line, but we've, we've talked about it at length about the Eagles building the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. And
00:07:52
Speaker
Dude, for some reason that team just knows how to do it and they just draft best player available no matter what position it is. they They don't care if they've got eight defensive linemen. If somebody slides to them that they think is the best player on the board, they're just going to take them. And it's crazy, man. We don't even really talk about it, but the Eagles have got to be I don't know, a top five run franchising all of sports at this point. Like, dude, they just, they know what they're doing, man. And I know a lot of people give them shit about Andy Reed, but I mean, they've won two super wolves. Like I just, I don't really know what else you can say about this team. And even going back, going back to the Andy Reed era, dude, it was wildly successful. They went to the NFC championship
00:08:34
Speaker
Four straight times obviously had trouble getting over the hill but still do if you're a final four team Like you're taking that every single year he took them to the Super Bowl They kind of similar to the Steelers man, like we've never really seen that team bottom out, you know Even the years they've missed the playoffs. They typically will bounce back the year after they're on Yeah, like you said man, they're on about a 25 30 year run of consistent success at this point So I'm right there with you man one of one of the true model franchises in the NFL Going back to Saquon like yeah, dude home run. I think it's right there with, with Reggie white signing with the Packers way back in the nineties is like one of the all time single season impact free agent signings. Like you literally immediately get catapulted to the super bowl um off of one signing, you know, kind of put you over the top and it was just a magical season, man. It was fitting in. um You know, they, they got to enjoy it last night. That was a hell of a victory lap.
00:09:22
Speaker
The craziest thing too, is I said this last night when we were at our friends house, I was like, dude, I think the Eagles might be better next year, honestly. Yeah. I mean, just another year with Saquon in that ah offense. Yeah, you went a year older. I just, I don't think they're going to lose anybody big on that team. And I just, I feel that team is so young. Like that's, that's the other thing that they're defensive line. They got a lot of young guys on it.
00:09:48
Speaker
Jalen Carter, dude, what an absolute monster of a player that they couldn't even try to block him last night. It was just, I mean, there's just some guys ah on the field. It just looks like the other team is just overmatched and no matter where he lined up, they couldn't block him. And yeah, this team is going to be deadly again next year. And honestly, man, it's the Eagles. I would not be surprised if they made a splash in the off season again. Like I just,
00:10:13
Speaker
I don't know anyone can doubt this franchise, man. they They know what they're doing and they draft well and they, they always pick up the right guys. It's just, it's unreal. And
NFL Franchises & Chiefs' Challenges
00:10:22
Speaker
yeah, like if you're a vet, if you're like still, you know, ah a valuable veteran out there looking to get that ring, where else would you go, man? but Yeah. I mean, seriously, if if you're looking at the top franchises in football, you still got to put the Ravens up there. Cause like, they just, they do a lot of things right in their front office. The chiefs, obviously the Eagles. I mean, shit that's probably the top three to me, like,
00:10:42
Speaker
If you're a vet that's looking to get a ring, that's probably the three franches I would look at first, honestly. Definitely. All right, let's go to the flip side. ah Chiefs. This was, dude, there there is no way to shine this up. This was bad from start to finish. They got absolutely destroyed from the time that ball was snapped to the end of that game. To me, man, this felt like kind of all the chickens came who came home to roost at once. Yeah, for the Chiefs man we know they've they've lost a lot of talent without replacing it or the last last two or three seasons specifically on the offensive side of the ball with the with the running backs and receivers. And you know Travis Kelsey keeps getting older and they've been able to get by it with smart game planning and Patrick Mahomes just becoming like the supreme game manager.
00:11:27
Speaker
Um, but last night they got punched in the mouth fell down big early and there was just absolutely no coming back man. It was, you know, they, this model that they've had for success really going back the last two seasons, man, they caught a, they got a little bit hot in the playoffs last year and we saw them elevate, but for the most part,
00:11:43
Speaker
They've gone on two straight years where they've just been a little bit better than the team lining up across from them week in and week out. And it gets so, they're so consistent with it that you kind of get lulled into a false sense of complacency. But last night, like I said, man, they got bum rushed and there was no coming back from it, man. They just, the the Eagles absolutely burned them down. It felt A lot like a kind of a chapter closing on the Chiefs man, which you know, it sounds funny considering they've made three straight Super Bowls, but it really feels like you know, I don't think it's going to be a rebuilding year. I think we're going to see some some pretty significant reconfiguring this offseason.
00:12:15
Speaker
Well, here's my thing. And you brought him up Travis Kelsey like, dude, this is by far. I mean, granted, this is gonna be the oldest he's looked he's he's older now. Obviously, the season though he has last but you know what I'm saying like, yeah he felt like he aged about three years in the last ah in the last 12 months, man, like he he used to be the the the cheat code. Like no matter what, if nothing else was clicking, he could find a way to get open, like you'll go play playground ball and just use his, you know, leverage size and speed to get open. And that's not the case anymore, man. Like he's out there just, you know, on the greatest hits tour. They kept trying it too. Like you could tell what they were trying to do and the Eagles were just not going to let them do it. And
00:12:55
Speaker
I just feel like the Eagles took them off their game plan immediately. They could not run the ball. They didn't even attempt to run the ball, which I thought was stupid, man. Like even if you go three and out, like having my homes drop back three straight times in the face of that pass rush, I just thought it was a terrible idea. and it just he couldn't ever get unrattled which is insane to say about Patrick Mahomes but dude the two Super Bowls he's lost he's lost the exact same way they've gotten bum rushed right out of the gate and it was just a blowout the the front four for both those teams got home every time like dude if you don't have to blitz Patrick Mahomes and you can get home I'm
00:13:34
Speaker
it's that's where they struggle. It's just, that's the formula to beat them. Now I know not everybody has the, the Eagles and the Bucks lines from those two Superbowl teams, but I mean, that is the formula. Like you bring four and get home. that They're tough to, they can't get it going. There are two tackles are just not good enough. I mean,
00:13:54
Speaker
I mean the guy they had starting at left tackle last night is a guard and he's playing tackle for injury so you know shout out to Joe Tooney man he did doing what he can dude but it was a tall order man for him to even hold up as much as he did this so far this season like I said it's all all the problems that they've been able to kind of patch over and just supply the cheese magic on it just all you know the the clock struck midnight last night on him all at once and it got ugly quick And, and we've talked about it on numerous occasions that the cap is just a mythical thing. But I mean, as of right now, they have $11 million dollars in cap room and they only have 38 players under contract. Like they are not in a good place. Cap wise. Now granted, they'll, they'll convert a lot of home salary to a signing bonus, which I still think is the dumbest fucking thing ever. I don't, I do not understand how the NFL runs under these rules. That's what I say, dude. It seems like maybe around 2011 or so when they did that CBA, something happened to really just for like ease up the salary cap stuff a lot. Because I remember like when I was like first really able to like smartly watch football, the salary cap felt like it was made of freaking steel. There was a gold wall at the end of the salary cap that you were not going through.
00:15:04
Speaker
Yeah, like yeah you know going back to 2004, 2005, it'd be something like 55 million, which you know one player is making that in a season nowadays. But but yeah, like straight up, once you got to it, you weren't signing anybody, dude. You could you were getting draft picks and you were having to grab you know veterans for the league minimum to fill out your roster at that point. there that You would know, your team would have, you would know that, all right, for like the next two years, we can't sign any free agents, dude. And you would start like,
00:15:28
Speaker
you know if you're a team of if you're a fan of a struggling team you'd be counting down to like okay the 2007 offseason we're gonna have some serious cap space I can't wait to see what we do yeah it was uh it was just way more of a thing man okay so I think this to me this is the two biggest questions that come out of the Super Bowl first do you think Kelsey does play another season I think there's, I think it's probably around 50 50
Player Futures: Kelsey, Garrett, Kupp, Samuel
00:15:51
Speaker
right now. I'll say if he does play, I think it's going to be in a much more diminished role, dude. I don't think he might start, uh, you know, out of respect, dude. I don't think he's going to take the most snaps that tied in for Kansas city next year. I think you're going to see somebody else get the majority of the snaps and then he'll come in on some third down, some dime pack or, you know, like four wide receiver packages and stuff like that. When they want to spread the field, they'll bring him out. There's an extra wrinkle, but I don't, I don't see him being the every down starting tight end for the chiefs next season, regardless. The other crazy thing, and somebody had brought it up last night, that Chris Jones signing might've been a mistake, man. i just He's on the wrong side of 30. He's getting $35 million dollars a season. like May have kept him one one year too long instead of getting rid of him one year too early. Which is the exact opposite of what the Chiefs normally do. That's the other thing I noticed about last night. The the Chiefs are just the team that does not beat themselves. They don't make mental errors. And from snap one to the end of that game, they they just were making mental errors. And I just, I was very un-Cheese like.
00:16:52
Speaker
Performance man, like I said, I think Philly is clearly the better roster. I think we knew that going in right I think phil I still say Philly's got the most talented 53 man roster top to bottom in the league But you still thought the Chiefs would find a way to to hey I mean we both picked him to win man I thought they would win a close game I thought it'd be a typical Chiefs game and and we'd see him win But the the Eagles, like I said, they made them look bad. They exposed a lot of problems that we've we've kind of known about, but seem like, for whatever reason, they just didn't apply to the Chiefs. But last night, they applied big time. then Just the lack of playmakers on the outside. There was very rarely any easy throws for my homes, even when
00:17:26
Speaker
Even when he was finding open guys, they were open by like half a step, you know, like nothing was easy. And obviously it was one of my home's worst games we've seen him have in a playoffs, probably the worst game we've seen him have in the playoffs. um And there was nobody there to pick him up. You know, I mean, they were they're kind of at the point where they had to get an a plus or, you know, ah a level game out of my homes to be competitive and you saw how quickly it turns man when when he's not at that level for whatever reason it was last night Jesus dude also how quickly did DeAndre Hopkins age from about two months ago to now that dude looks like a shell of himself in that game last night like yeah it's just weird to
00:18:01
Speaker
I don't know, man, we're just not used to this, this Chiefs offense, like somebody mentioned it, that when you're talking about dynasties, like the beginning of the Patriots dynasty was just slow methodical football, like, that's just how they played like the Chiefs when they started this whole run, like they were that explosive offense and now they've just turn into this like slow plotting offense that just cannot make plays downfield. And it's, I mean, look at their receivers, bro. They got Xavier worried. And they're rolling out DeAndre Hopkins and Juju Smith Schuster, man. hall klsey wrote Yeah, it's a freaking retirement. Well, they're going to get, they're going to get Rishi rice back next year, but that dude's coming off a may major knee injury. So who knows what you're going to get out of him.
00:18:42
Speaker
I say bring Tyreke back man sniff around Miami to see how much they're you know sound like Tyreke was kind of on the the apology tour this week trying to make up with the Dolphins David if they're ready to move on why not man who who says no if they were if they want to send you know a couple second round picks to Miami but get Tyreke back and I just don't think they can get him under I know we just talked about the cab thing but like Yeah, financially, I might not worry. The Chiefs have to like spend so much money on linemen. I mean, you you cannot let Mahomes get hit like that, dude. like That one hit that he took from Jalen Carter, I thought he was dead for a second. like yeah He got absolutely killed.
00:19:18
Speaker
Um, somebody I do not like at all, but I mean, he he did bring up a good point today. Colin Coward was, I was on in my own, my way back home today and I was listening to him. Um, my home's two Superbowl losses are by a combined four, 40 points. And honestly, you can make the argument that it was 56 because the two touchdowns they scored at the end of last night were complete junk time. The Eagles weren't even, I mean, the Eagles had already thrown the Gatorade on Sirianni at that point. Like it.
00:19:45
Speaker
They didn't even care at that point. Do you got to give credit where it's due, man? That long touchdown to Worthy, that may be the greatest garbage time throw I've ever seen in my life. Freaking dark, dude. That was incredible. um And Brady's three Super Bowl losses are by a combined 15 points. like bla I was going to bring up, man. I think this curse of Brady is a real thing, dude. Patrick Mahomes, in his seven years as a starter, he's lost four playoff games. Tom Brady has been in the building for three of them.
00:20:10
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's it's a real deal thing. Like, dude, but I just wanted to bring that up because last week I brought up everybody was like so in a hurry to anoint Mahomes as the GOAT. Dude, he still has to win this. He still had a way to go. He still has to win four more. And he's got two losses in the Super Bowl that, I mean, Brady had three total and it was by a combined 15 points. Like, these are two really bad Super Bowl losses.
00:20:36
Speaker
and That was one thing he mentioned. And I kind of agree with him on this. Like Mahomes has all the physical tools. Like he has a lot of stuff that nobody's ever had playing football, you know, but Brady just was like so mentally tough that no matter what they face. And he even said, he's like a lot of times they had the second best roster on the field when they played in a super bowl, but Brady did not care. Like he was going to make the most out of this team. And he he said it about Mahomes last night. He's like, you could just see it in his face by the middle of the second quarter. Like he just looked defeated last night. He was ready for that game. It's a felt like the chiefs just wanted to fast forward. it And if they could have done like Madden hit, concede defeat after those first two possessions in the third quarter, I think they would have, man. Like we definitely, yeah, he saw them give up a little bit, man. It's probably a little bit of fatigue there, right? Three states, he's going to the super bowl. That's a, that's a long year, man.
00:21:26
Speaker
But yeah, it was, you know, you typically when a dynasty ends, it's, I don't, it's not, ah it's pretty ugly. Yeah. So, but we'll see if they bounce back. Yeah. I think they're, I don't, I probably don't got them at the tippy top of my AFC contender list next year. I just feel like there's, the there's always a Superbowl loss hangover, man. We always see that.
00:21:46
Speaker
But yeah' yeah, my home's has still got at least a solid you know seven or eight years playing at the level he's at right now. I got to say, it was garbage time, man. I kind of like them going back to just cutting it loose and throwing it deep. yeah like Stretch the defense out, dude. Because if at this point, like obviously, they got to get the receivers to make it happen. But but yeah, we're going on two seasons now where this ah offense has been so pedestrian. And it it does kind of limit you if you have a game that goes off script like this and you find yourself down 17 to nothing, man. yeah um Yeah, tough night for the Chiefs, man. Like obviously none nobody's shedding any tears for them, nor should they. But but yeah, I was really hoping we're going to get a little bit more of an exciting game. OK, three things non Super Bowl related that I wanted to touch on. We didn't talk about any of this last week just because I wanted to save it for this week. So three major players have requested a trade from their current team. Miles Garrett requested a trade from the Browns. What what do you think the ideal landing spot for Miles Garrett is like just if
00:22:42
Speaker
What team do you think needs him more than anyone else? Needs him for like a missing piece. I'd say the commanders did. I think, you know, young QB still in a rookie contract. I think that seems like a good likely landing spot. I think I saw so some, one of the the big NFL Twitter accounts had posted the the cap space chart and I think commanders kind of lined up as the best team that's got a lot of space.
00:23:07
Speaker
Falcons would be nice man I could see him there but you know, who knows how that would work out or what if he's wanting to go there. If he considers them a contender so I think I'd go commanders and then maybe with the Falcons is a dark horse it would be cool to see him with as a dirty bird but I don't know if that's something he's looking at. Call me crazy, dude. I think a dark horse team that is going to go after him is the eels. I really think they're going to go after him. They're going to lose Josh. sweat I'm imagining Brandon Graham retires like it. I can see it. I really tell vehicles are gonna go after him. I just little rich, get richer action. I just have a weird feeling they're going to go after him. Uh, second player is Cooper cup. This is a weird bill off a cliff. I feel like.
00:23:51
Speaker
Yeah. and You wonder how much that was usage that my thing though, dude, if the Rams don't want to keep him, I feel like he's almost like a Julian Edelman type. I hate to compare a white wide receiver to a white wide receiver, but he's like such a system player that he's way more valuable to that Rams offense than he would be to almost any other team. And so I don't know what well they were the ones that announced it. He did not like they announced they're moving on. So I feel like it's going to happen, dude. Why not just go to the chargers?
00:24:19
Speaker
Like, yeah, I mean that just seemed like such a logical move to me at this point, but they're in mcconkey. So I think they kind of have their cool. yeah But you have to win. I don't know, man. Just I feel like somebody that is like, ah commanders are a good destination for him to Yeah. Well, no, because they got McCaffrey, dude. They already got one. Okay, let's relax. You're replacing Luke McCaffrey for it. All right, bro. I don't know. Luke McCaffrey's pretty good, bro. He's a pretty decent little receiver. I think he's going to keep getting married. Let's relax. You know where I could see him going, dude? You know where I would like him to go, man? Is Chicago, dude. We'll keep it since we've already gone full racial on this segment. We'll keep the white white receiver comparisons going. Think about how valuable Adam D. Lin's been for Carolina the last couple of years. Not any kind of game breaker or anything, but just a solid dude, play smart and still makes pretty big plays, man. I see that. I feel like every time I caught the Panthers on red zone, Adam dealer was making a big catch for a first down or something. Yeah. Send him to the bearish to, uh, to help out Caleb. The last one is Deebo Samuel.
00:25:17
Speaker
i Dude, he's got so much. Send him to the Memphis, the Memphis showboats of the UFL. He's just got so many miles and just so many injuries on his legs. Like I just probably surprised they trade him. who Who's trading for him? Yeah. Like I like Deebo man. He's got some dog to him. Tough. indeed When the Niners were really humming a couple of years ago, Deebo was freaking awesome, man, like a bad ass player. But dude, I just, I have, I have trouble seeing him. Like you said, man, he's, uh,
00:25:45
Speaker
a lot of big hits, even though he's not had him in the league a super long time. He's just, he's high mileage, bro. You know what I mean? He's that car. It's like five years old and you know, still might still looks good in the garage, but you're thinking about buying it and you look at the mileage and that maintenance records. Yeah. I feel like I'm going to be in the shop every, every couple of months with this thing. I mean, I wouldn't trade for him, dude. I feel like you could, I feel like, you know, it seems like you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a decent wide receiver in the draft nowadays, man. I feel like you could get somebody that could get you close to whatever production he's going to have now for way less cost, man, without giving up any kind of draft capital. So I'll be pretty surprised if they get anything more than like a fifth, sixth round flyer for him.
00:26:27
Speaker
Yeah, i I'd be shocked too, but I feel like somebody's gonna go after him, like somebody needs him, but yeah, it's he's definitely not what he used to be, so it's gonna be interesting. That's all I got, man. All right, let's get into million dollar bets. Okay, okay, okay. Boo.
00:26:56
Speaker
Go ahead, Seth, read your total for the season. Let's hear what you got. You know, I kind of love it, dude. I started with nothing. I ended with nothing, man. Went all in. No, you started with a million. You ended with zero. We started with nothing, then we were gifted an imaginary million. Decided to just go for broke, man. i Went all in on the Chiefs. And obviously, you know, Travis Kelsey had his worst. i Honestly, Kelsey and Mahomes had their worst playoff games ever. And the Chiefs lost. So I think, you know, jordan Jordan backed into a victory, man. He didn't he didn't cover himself in glory.
00:27:25
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this weekend either, but I'll give it to him, dude. I'd already beat him on picks two straight years. Now I've beaten him on million dollar bets the last year. I had to give him something or he may not come back for season three of the goal. line yeah really yeah Round of applause for Gordon. I mean, I'd like to point out that, uh, you decided to pin all your hopes on one bet. I, much like all season have just been going on everything. I just, I um don't know, man, the Superbowl is just fun. Just about one of everything on, it's just,
00:27:54
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I want a couple, but for the most part, like, yeah, I'm same thing here. I like it. I really thought the chiefs were going to win that game and I was shocked at sake one didn't score touchdown, but yeah, another fun season of a million dollar bets. We're going to try to enhance it next year yeah and just kind of see where it goes. so We're gonna, if you further, I know we got a lot of wrestling fans listening. Think Halloween Havoc, spin the wheel, make the deal. We're gonna make like a wheel of bets. We got we got still gotta to fill it out. So if you got some ideas, let us know. But we're thinking, you know, you spin the wheel and you know, one one wedge on the wheel might be, you know, three team parlay, over unders, player props. Basically there'll be, you know, 10 or 12 different options and whatever the wheel lands on, that's the bets.
00:28:38
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that me and Jordan have to place that week. So I'd make it a little bit more, you know, kind of box us in a little bit and make us get a little bit more creative from week to week on the picks. And you know, I'm thinking maybe we open it up to the college game next year too. Yeah, I think we should man. It'll be, it'll be really fun. And yeah, we just, we're trying to do different things every year and yeah just make this, this segment better. And yeah, so you guys have any ideas? We're, we're more than welcome to listen to those ideas. All right. We got a super quick pick segment.
00:29:15
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Yeah. All right. Let's hear it, Jordan. What is your way too early Super Bowl 60 prediction? I'm going to go.
00:29:28
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I'm going to go bangles. Versus. Bengals, Eagles, Eagles win again.
00:29:40
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I think we're going to finally get the Superbowl. Everybody was wanting this year, the the baby face Superbowl of the century. I think it's going to be bills and lions, man. I think both teams finally get over the hump next year. And I think we're going to see, he got the MVP this year. He's getting the ring next year. I think we see Josh Allen and the bills defeat the lions in the Superbowl next year. They better go all in on playmakers this off season. Like if the bills do not get him like three receivers or something besides what they got now, they are not serious about winning. I get just,
00:30:10
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At the end of the season this year, it's like, who the hell are they counting on? Khalil, Khalil Shakir. And it's like, dude, they have to get someone else for him. I just, I don't know. That team was so weird, man.
00:30:23
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All right, we got some listener mail, then we'll get out of here. um John Swallow said way too early Super Bowl 60 contenders and way too early 2026 top five draft picks. I think we already gave our contenders top five draft picks probably a little too tough to forecast this far out. Let's do top pick though. If you had to pick the number one pick in the 2026 draft right now, who are you going with? I'd go with the Giants.
00:30:47
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No, no, no. I'm saying which player, dude. Which player? Oh, it's Archmanning. I think that's what he's asking. It's Archmanning. You think he's going to be a one-year starter, dude? Yeah, there's no question. He's going pro after next year.
00:30:58
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I see that, dude. du If he comes out, yeah, I think he's number one. Honestly, dude, if he came out right now, man, yeah I think it's it's in the conversation. He might take him number one, dude, dude if if if he came out right now. Nobody's going to want to be the team that passed on a man unit quarter. Bro, this is the Manning family we're talking about. If there's a chance for someone to go number one, the he's going number one. like there's no yeah There's no question of if, it's when. he He's going out.
00:31:23
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How wild would that be if there's some kind of loophole when he was able to go pro this year, dude? I think it'd be even money that he'd go number one as crazy as that sounds. um I think Arch is going to stay though, dude. you know Eli stayed till his senior year. Peyton stayed till his senior year. I think he stays at least two years there as a starter. Dude, I'm going Carson Beck, man. I watched a lot of Georgia this year, dude. He did have a little bit inconsistency starting the season, but I think he's going to ball out in Miami, similar to what Cam Moore did. And I think that we're going to, you know, Georgia fans are going to regret being so hard on him this year. I think there were some deep flaws in the scheme of that Georgia offense. And their wide receivers were horrible this year, man. They probably had the worst wide receiver core of any of the top line schools in college football. So I think he's going to go down there. He's got his baddy girlfriend right there with him. They got to do the long distance relationship this year. I think he's going to ball out, man. And and he's already got the the size and the arm strength in it. So I'll go Carson Beck with a a solid bounce back and and to get to the top of the draft board. All right. All right. He also had that famous picture from Fox when they're going to commercial after do that pick six Patrick Mahomes with his lip stuck out. It says, will Patrick's lips stay like this? Most likely. I don't know. i I'm still a believer in Patrick Mahomes, man. i think we I don't think we've heard the last of him on the Super Bowl stage. No, not at all.
00:32:37
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All right, we got a some essay questions here from Omar Morales, man. Nudihan listener, thanks for writing in, man. How would you guys rate this NFL season as a whole compared to last year's? I thought the season was pretty good, man. Playoffs were less than compelling. We had a great AFC championship game, and that Bills and Ravens game was pretty good. But I think for them i think the playoffs were a little bit more exciting last season.
00:32:57
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I agree. Yeah, last season's playoffs were unreal. but Super Bowl was way better too, man. That Niners and Eagles Super Bowl was just a banger. You mean Niners and Chiefs? Niners and Chiefs, yeah yeah. All right, any changes you guys would make to the presentation of the Super Bowl as a whole? Like, you know, longer halftime show, no halftime show played outside the USA? Dude, I say get rid of the two weeks, man. I want to i kind of like those. It's been once or twice. We've had the Super Bowl um just one week after the conference championships. I kind of like that, dude.
00:33:26
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The two week the one time the week thing doesn't bother me, dude. And it's because they want everyone to have a chance to heal up and get ready to play. Like I get why they do it. And I don't have a problem with it. I mean, it's the biggest sporting event in the United States. Like it, I don't mind the two week thing. The the halftime show is never going away.
00:33:44
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um I think dude, the week of the Superbowl, how much shit they make these guys do, I think is a little bit ridiculous. Like they do the opening night and they do media night. Like dude, like part of this is, and I get it. A lot of those younger guys, like that's a really enjoyable time for them. But on the same hand, it's like, God damn, man, they got to do five hours of appearances on Monday, Tuesday, like make it more about the actual game than just about like, Oh, let me ask Patrick. Mom's a bunch of weird questions. Also, before I forget,
00:34:16
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The superstar of Super Bowl week was Jamis Winston. Everything Jamis Winston did on Super Bowl week was phenomenal. And honestly, if I'm him, dude, cash in now and just go work for a media personality, man. Yeah. Like, dude, he he can get paid whatever he wants. He is absolutely incredible.
00:34:35
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Yeah, I support all things James man, so I'm right there with it. I saw him tossing out crab legs and stuff in the parade. Like these are seasoned up man. We did one thing. I think I've mentioned this before on the show. I know I mentioned you in private, dude. A little wrinkle like a little stipulation I think would make it fun and would really add some unpredictability from year to year. I think the team that wins the Super Bowl the next season, the Super Bowl is at their stadium there. So like next year in the Super Bowl is in Philly, so it's like it's like a reward for the city and then it also. um It also, you know, it gives you that tiny little kernel of hope, like, hey, if you're able to make it back to back, like they get the Chiefs made it back to back and have like the last two years Super Bowl was in Arrowhead. How lit that would be, man. Going for the three feet at home. So I just think it'd be cool when you get to see the Super Bowl in some new locations and, ah you know, see it in some weather, dude. Imagine if the Packers win, we got the Super Bowl at Lambo, dude. Like, I know Green Bay, it'd be a real reach for them to that city to support a Super Bowl. But dude, you can't tell me the Super Bowl at Lambo first week of February wouldn't be incredible. I mean, it would, but yeah, that would be a logistical nightmare for the NFL. Yeah. Green Bay is tiny. All right. Um, if you had to use a wrestling match as an analog analogy to explain how the Super Bowl went, which would you use? I would go survivor series, 2016 Brock Lesnar versus Goldberg. You know, the the chiefs are Brock, this undefeated champion seems unbeatable. And then Goldberg comes in and just smacks the shit out of him in about two minutes. Yeah. I think that's a good analogy.
00:36:02
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All right. Buddy Tony Barker, another member of the Nebraska Mafia says, will you be watching the UFL when it starts to satiate your football hunger? I can't. I mean, if I'm flipping channels and I happen to catch it, I'll watch it for a little bit, but I don't think I'm making it like a part of my my viewing regimen.
00:36:18
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I mean, I'll watch it. i'm I'm not going to be tuned in religiously every week, but ah I'll watch it because dude, once we get close to after combine time and get close to the draft, like I really started jonesing to watch football again. So I mean, I'm still going to watch it, but it's not going to be like appointment viewing like the NFL is.
00:36:39
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Zach Hertzer says fly equals fly. I'm definitely gonna give a big congrats to our Eagles fans, listeners. And last question, how much longer before Kellen Moore becomes head coach of the Saints? I don't know if he takes it, dude. You saw Nick Sirianni very publicly yeah tell him, yeah, let's run this shit back last night. And it came out today that Cliff Kingsbury was offered a job and turned it down. So if you're Kellen Moore, you're probably at the hottest point you've been in your coaching career. Are you are you really taking Cliff Kingsbury sloppy seconds here?
00:37:06
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Dude, the other thing is, nobody's exactly walking into a gold mine going to the Saints right now. They don't have a lot to work with. They're a mess, dude. I don't know, man. They're a mess, man. And the thing is, if you're a retread or something, maybe you go do it because it's whatever, dude. I'm kind of of of two minds. One, there's only 32 of these jobs, dude. You never know what could happen, man. Jalen Hurts could break his leg next year. Eagles offense is horrible. And all of a sudden, killing more is not a hot,
00:37:30
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Candidate anymore, but if I'm him dude I think I'm comfortable betting on myself that you can run a bag for at least one more year have another huge year offensively with them and then ah You know, maybe the silver lining if they don't go as far in the playoffs next year. He'll have a little bit more a Space to get one of these jobs man, but Yeah, i did the Saints to me feel like one of the worst situations to be walking into in the NFL right now. I seriously thought it would be announced today that he took that job just because everything we heard last week and yeah the fact that it hasn't been announced yet is kind of weird to me. I mean maybe there's i thought he, did he interview yet? I thought he was interviewing today. Oh, maybe. Well, either way. I think he's staying in town to interview. Even if he's just going to like enjoy this week as like, Hey man, we just want a Superbowl. Like I would completely be okay with that. But the Saints need to hurry the fuck up. Like, dude, you need to hire a coach like now.
00:38:21
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Yeah, they're getting to the point where you almost expect them to like bring a Lovey Smith type in, and they understand you're like, yeah, this is going to be for a year or two, dude. Just let us go play confident football for a year, and then we'll look for the you know we'll look for Mr. Right next season or the season after or something. Because yeah, it's it's getting you know the musical chairs are starting to run out. Yeah.
00:38:38
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All right. So future of the goal line, we're going to take a couple of weeks off and we'll put together our off
Podcast Off-Season Plans
00:38:44
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season schedule. We're going to do, it'll be close to what we did last year where we pick two or three teams each week to kind of do a, a retrospective on what went right and what went wrong in the 2024 season and look ahead to 2025. So it won't be too, too long. You know, I think at most, you know, two or three weeks, you guys get another episode from us. So stand, stand by. I'll be right here on the right here on the feed. You guys know where to find us want to thank you guys for the awesome support all season. This is such a fun show to record. We really enjoy sit down putting these together for you guys. And, you know, like I said, we really appreciate the the love you guys show. um Jordan, man, I hate to say it, dude, but his was some closing thoughts. And we'll get out of here. We'll put a wrap on season two of the goal. Yeah, like Seth said,
00:39:24
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just to raise a glass to you guys for being great listeners and always being interactive with the show. And ah to Seth, man, I couldn't do this without you and I love doing this. And yeah, it's a this fucking sucks. I hate the end of football season, man. It just there. There's nothing like football and doing this podcast just makes me love it even more. And I guess all I got to say is, well, we'll see you guys in a couple of weeks.