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Goal Line: Off-Season Update
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The boys catch up on what they have been doing since the Super Bowl, discuss some of the top off-season football news so far, and even take a quick trip over to the hardwood for some basketball thoughts. Plus, listener mail!
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Post-Super Bowl Return
00:00:18
Speaker
It feels so good to be back, man. For the first time since our post-Super Bowl episode, the goal line is back, ready to kick off our off-season slate of episodes. Jordan, what is going on, man? Man, like you just said, it it's good to be back It's been a while. we've ah We've definitely had some stuff going on, and...
00:00:38
Speaker
Yeah, we just we've been we had done so many episodes last year in the offseason that we just had stretched it so thin that there was just nothing for us to talk about. So we piled up a month and a half of news now, and we're going to just kind of run through that with you guys. But I figure the best way to start this, let's ah just kind of give everybody a life update because we haven't talked to them in seven weeks basically now. So give us a little life update, Seth. What's going on with you?
Seth's Travels and Illness
00:01:05
Speaker
Been busy, man. been busy work Work's been busy. I've been traveling on a damn world tour, dude. In the span of less than two weeks, man, I went to Hawaii. Then I had a gig I had to go do in Washington, D.C., and then back down to Fort Worth and with brief stops in Tennessee in between.
00:01:20
Speaker
Also, in the in between, I got a wicked case of ah flu A along with some bronchitis, man. It was legit. The the sickest I've ever been and in my whole life, man. Even Sheena said, like, dude, she'd never seen me that sick. Like, I was starting to go towards the light a couple times while I was laying in bed trying to get a nurse back to health, man. So, other than that, you know, normal normal drama on the farm around here, man. If you guys listen to the Chick-fil-A show, Sheena does a good job catching guys up on that. But with the kids, man, Brett went undefeated, won the championship
Family Updates
00:01:49
Speaker
in basketball. So, he you know, the kids forgotten how to lose, man. he went oh You guys remember back during football season, kept you guys updated every week.
00:01:56
Speaker
went undefeated, won the championship in football, and then followed it up with the undefeated... a basketball season. So we started soccer tonight. We had the first practice earlier today. Got a pretty decent squad. I don't know if I'm calling an undefeated season off the first practice, but we got some serious potential. So it's going be fun, man. And we got him signed up for tackle football starting up in the fall. So, you know, just staying busy nonstop, man. And, but it's always good to do the goal line, man. This is, ah you know, me and Jordan talk sports nonstop anyway. So it's always easy to hop on here and share our love for sports with you guys, man. So very, very happy to be back in the saddle.
00:02:29
Speaker
What about you,
Jordan's Milestone Birthday
00:02:30
Speaker
Jordan? Yeah. um So since the last time we talked to you guys, I turned 40. um we went to Arizona for spring training for my 40th. So that that was really good.
00:02:40
Speaker
Zoe had a dance recital. um It's just, yeah, mean it's just been nonstop stuff. The the weather's finally changing. So it makes you want to get out a lot more and stuff like that. And Yeah, it's ah it's just been busy, man. Life's been busy. i I hate to say it, but there's been a lot of weeks where I wouldn't even have time to record just because how busy we've been.
00:03:00
Speaker
um Yeah, it's just life's busy as as everybody else goes. Life's busy. thank Thank God there's not football right now because don't know if I'd have time for it at this point. Um, let's get into it, man. Uh, I'm just going kind of go down a list. This is not in any order at all, but there's just some stuff I kind of want to hit on tonight.
DK Metcalf Trade Discussion
00:03:21
Speaker
Um, let's start with, uh, DK Metcalf being traded to the Steelers. What was your initial reaction to this and kind of what your thoughts post this happening?
00:03:33
Speaker
um you know i don't i don't think i think the seahawks got a decent haul for him um it's an it's a no-brainer for the steelers man i think at least for the next year or two dk metcalf is is going to be awesome i would say that i i get why the seahawks were willing to do it on the surface you're like why would you trade this guy he seems like one of the premier playmakers but if you look back the history league the the super jacked big muscular wide receivers, they typically don't age well, right? They usually got a little bit of a steeper drop off than some of the more, you know, the the built for speed guys.
00:04:07
Speaker
um So, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if his peak lasts a little bit shorter than what, you know, other guys of his talent level is.
Steelers' Quarterback Speculation
00:04:13
Speaker
um But, the you know, the Steelers, we still got to if they get A-Rod in there, man, I really think the Steelers could be a problem, dude, because, you know, you got Pickens, who's a freaking head case, but still, dude, like you're rolling him and DK Metcalf out. That's going to be a problem for opposing defensive backfields.
00:04:27
Speaker
Yeah, and they still got Pat Fryer-Muth. There's definitely worse situations to be in as a quarterback. Dude, it feels like it's Aaron Rodgers or Bust, though. like I mean, if it's not Aaron Rodgers, there's nobody left. like Russell Wilson already went out the door. there doesn't i I don't think there's somebody with where the Steelers going to be drafting at that you're going to immediately be able to plug and play.
00:04:47
Speaker
into the starting lineup. Maybe Shador Tumbles, man. Maybe Shador Tumbles all the way to that late teens, early 20s day when they grab him. Because I feel like he's going to be in the – I don't think he's going to set the world on fire, but i feel like he's in the best position to come in and be a replacement-level starter in the NFL from day one. But, yeah, dude, it feels – I don't know, man. i I don't know if I'm thinking Aaron Rodgers is up there or not, man. I feel like A-Rod may retire just set out a year. It seems like he's not – for whatever reason, it seems like he's not in love with going to Pittsburgh.
00:05:16
Speaker
Here's my thing. And somebody brought this up today. I think I heard it. Somebody was talking about him and what he's doing. I don't like the the way he's doing this whole thing, first of all. like Just the whole... like Really won't. Yeah. just and He's always got to just be the fucking center of attention. He can't just like make a decision just to get this over with.
00:05:36
Speaker
But I did hear today, somebody brought it up. Don't be surprised if the Steelers call the Falcons if A-Rod doesn't do it and ask them what Kirk Cousins availability is because as much as I hate on Kirk Cousins I mean he's still a serviceable level NFL quarterback and with he'll be another year removed from the Achilles yeah you know not I think we've gotten spoiled because we see some of these guys make these miracle comebacks from these injuries but dude you know Even as recently as 10 years ago, man, the Achilles was damn near a career-ending injury.
00:06:05
Speaker
um so you know Maybe ah another year removed, we see Kirk look a little bit closer to what he looked like in 2023 before he got hurt. Yeah, I could definitely see it. and i mean Say what you want, the Steelers are going to get real desperate if A-Rod says no because...
00:06:20
Speaker
Like I said, who else is out there? I get what you're saying a about Shadour. I just do not see them rolling out that team with a rookie quarterback. Like, dude, there's too much talent and they they've paid too much money and sunk too much money into it to roll a rookie out there right now.
00:06:33
Speaker
And just, know, man. There's just something about Tomlin. Like, I know everything worked with Roethlisberger and stuff, but... the amount of times that a rookie quarterback gets plugged right into a lineup and and just goes, I know it happened last year with Jaden Daniels, but it's pretty rare that that just it's rare it hits right off the bat. So I think they're going to get a vet either way. I just...
00:06:55
Speaker
I mean, unless Rodgers is retiring, there's no reason for him not to go there. There's nowhere else to go at this point. And it does feel like there is some added heat, you know, whether whether that's actually the case internally, at least from the outside. It seems like there's some some added heat on Tomlin this year. It feels like they're finally at their breaking point of, you know, just stringing along these winning seasons and going one and done in the playoffs isn't good enough because.
00:07:16
Speaker
Let's be honest, dude. The Steelers are right there with the you know the Cowboys, the 49ers, the Patriots, the Giants. It's one of the all-time blue blood greatest franchises NFL history. And they're ultimately judged by Super Bowls, man. And we're going, ah you know, when the season kicks off, dude, it'll be 15 years since the last time the Steelers made it to the Super Bowl. A lot of those blue bloods, man, like like we're just talking 49ers, Steelers, Cowboys. It's been a while since they've won a Super Bowl.
00:07:41
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. The Giants are the most obviously, you know, the Patriots had their run, but all of them feel like the glory is a long ways away. You know, the Niners just had an awesome, awesome run that somehow came up with no rings. The Giants, they snagged their two there in the, you know, the earlier dude. And it feels like they've, you know, they've had a couple of decent seasons, but for the most part, they've been a basement dweller and,
00:08:02
Speaker
Obviously, with you know, the Cowboys struggles have been have been widely documented. Yeah, I guess I guess we kind of need to add the Chiefs in that mix now, too. You know, the Chiefs have four Super Bowls. and You don't think of them just because all of them have came so recently. You know, they won Super Bowl three and then went, you know, 40 years before winning another one.
00:08:17
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, you're right. The traditional Blue Bloods, man, they are they are definitely in a down period right now. Yeah, it's wild to watch. um Like I said, not going in any order here. the This is probably what we should have let off with.
00:08:30
Speaker
um Bengals re-signed Jamar Chase and
Bengals' Offensive Strategy
00:08:33
Speaker
T. Higgins. Chase got four years, $161 million, dollars and Higgins got four years, million. you know what man As much as we ripped on the Bengals not paying people and now we've all got something to say about after they do pay people, they had to do this. I don't i don't think they had a choice.
00:08:51
Speaker
Whether or not it ends up being the right decision is yet to be determined, but you just can't let guys like that go. like I mean, you you drafted well and you got the right guys in-house. like You got to keep him, bro – those two in burrow together. I just, like I said, their biggest problem last year was defense. So I don't know how great of a plan this is to go into the season again with very little defensive help, but I mean, it is a scoring league dude. And in the end, you have score points to win.
00:09:19
Speaker
Yeah, i I do want to point out, man, I need to go back and check the tape to see exactly what I said. But I i seem to remember when we were like kind of kicking into the offseason saying that I thought when it was all said and done, T. Higgins ends up back with the Bengals, man. yeah I can't remember if I said I thought that would happen or if that's what I thought the Bengals should do.
00:09:36
Speaker
But I definitely – I feel like defense is a little bit easier to kind of hit on some mid to late round draft picks or pick up some free agents off the scrap heap. And i don't know. I feel like the defensive coordinator, man, I feel like scheme matters a lot more on defense, whereas offense, it's a lot more talent based. And I just feel like you can scrap together a decent defense because that's what they need, man. I don't think they need. you They don't need the 2000 Ravens or the 2007 Giants. They just need to be like if they can get to league average with that offense, if the offense,
00:10:05
Speaker
can duplicate what they did last year, that this team's going to go on a run, man.
Bengals' Defensive Concerns
00:10:09
Speaker
Like they were extremely dangerous. I think all of the, but as bad as their defense was, I know all of the AFC playoff field was happy to see that the Steelers scrap grab that last playoff spot instead of, ah instead of the Bengals, just because when they were at their peak, they were very, very dangerous. And I think you're better off, Keith,
00:10:25
Speaker
You know with with these three guys, you have you know arguably the best offense in the league. yeah I think you roll the dice and keep that certainty and just and just hope you can piece together a defense, man. I don't think you get rid of T. Higgins and just you know on the wing and a prayer that it's going to free up this additional cap space for us to shore up our defense because you never know what how these other free agents are going to pan out. If, say, you did you know you went and signed three mid-level free agents for the the money that you saved off not signing T. Higgins. Yeah, i agree.
00:10:52
Speaker
But again, ah you you really are pinning it all on your defense. like If you need a stop, like if i mean that was their biggest problem last year. they In the big moments, they couldn't get a stop. and I know it came down to week 18 last year, but Whatever they have to do this season, they cannot come out of the gate slow. like Yeah, that's what's been burying them. If they went 2-2 in the first month, they would have been they would have been in the playoffs. Yeah, it's just it's such an uphill fight after the first month for them every year. like It basically turns into playoff football in October for the Bengals. They've been... And that's exhausting because then if you do, even if you do limp into the playoffs, man, you've already been, you've already had that level of intensity and sense of urgency going for months, man. So I think the coach gets fired, man. I think, i think Zach Taylor gets fired if they get off to another bad start this year. Cause you just, you can't accept that with the amount of talent.
00:11:42
Speaker
But, you know, again, man, I just I agree with the team building philosophy. The Peyton Manning
Bears' Offensive Linemen Signings
00:11:47
Speaker
Colts were the same way. They always poured the money into the offense and just, you know, they got lucky and they hit on draft picks with Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders. But all the money on that team was always invested on the offensive side the ball. Let's let's make our strength as strong as possible and just hope and pray that we can get by on, ah you know, smoke and mirrors on the the other side of the ball.
00:12:06
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. um All right, let's ah let's move on to the Bears. They made a ton of moves. They got some offensive linemen. So we'll we'll see if these pan out. So they got Joe Tooney from the Chiefs.
00:12:19
Speaker
This was just a salary cap cut from the Chiefs, obviously. Yeah. um Jonah Jackson from the the Rams, I think is his name. And then they signed Drew Dahlman from the Falcons.
00:12:31
Speaker
That's the center, right? ye um Yeah, one of the best offensive interior offensive linemen in the league. Yeah, the only issue with with Drew Dahlman, and I had been saying this the last three years, for some reason that guy, like every eight snap, like snaps it into the ground. I don't understand what his deal is. It's like his hand goes numb or something, and he just forgets he's got – snapped the ball in the air. So, cause it happened a couple of times to cousins last year.
00:12:56
Speaker
And when you have an immobile quarterback, a low snap, got him clean snap, this the play is done at that point. But yeah, I mean, they're addressing what, what everybody said they needed to address. So good on them.
00:13:07
Speaker
um They also signed Grady Jarrett, which was a I knew it was going to happen. I just sad to see him leave the Falcons. It is. I e hope a guy like that's a lifer, man. I knew it was going to happen. I just, I had mentally prepared my myself for it, but even when it happened, it was still depressing.
00:13:24
Speaker
Still a really good player. You're, you're probably not getting pro bowl Grady Jarrett, but I mean, even like if you're getting 75% of it, he's still a very valuable piece to your team. So yeah, I mean, the bears are making some noise that, which they needed to, I mean,
00:13:38
Speaker
Caleb Williams has sacked so much, he's got to learn to not hold on to the ball as long as he was last year. But, yeah, they're definitely putting together a good team around him. I mean, what's kind of your thoughts on the Bears and their winning the offseason every season?
00:13:51
Speaker
Dude, you know, I've seen this so many times over the years. feel like it was like this two or three times with Jake Cutler. I felt like they, they you know – Going way back, dude, they always were making moves back there in the Rex Grossman era. Went out and trading and getting Musim Muhammad after he had you know one of the best wide receiver statures ever for the Panthers.
00:14:09
Speaker
And it just, dude, I
Bears' Historical Struggles
00:14:11
Speaker
hate to be a Debbie Downer, but it just feels like the Chicago is where good offensive players go to die, man. like I've been watching football hardcore for going on, you know, over 30 years.
00:14:23
Speaker
And when Chicago is winning, it's when they have a badass defense and just a gritty offense, man. And, and you know, it seems like they're trying to, you know, they're going more like high speed, uptempo, modern style offense with Caleb Williams. And I don't know if it's the way the wind hits in that stadium. You know they call it the Hawk, that wind that comes in from the north.
00:14:39
Speaker
Something about the turf, something in the drinking water in Chicago. They've just never really – that's just not been the style of play. you know A wide-open offense like they're trying to run with Caleb Williams has just never been the style that's worked there.
00:14:51
Speaker
And it just feels like one of the – we've talked about it you know during the history of the goal line, man. Some of these franchises just – it feels like losing is absolutely is like sewed into the fabric of the jerseys, and Chicago feels like one of those, man, because they've they've added some decent seasons mixed in, but for the most part, they have been bad for going on 30 years now.
00:15:09
Speaker
Yeah. um Just kind of piggybacking off the Grady Jarrett thing. I swear to God, if the Falcons do not take a defensive lineman or rush end, whatever you want to call it, with their first pick this year, I'm literally going fucking snap. like i i heard they were going to take another quarterback, and I heard they were high on Jackson Dart. No, I don't even know if that would piss me off as much as if they took another receiver. like I might freak out if they take another receiver. like they They just...
00:15:34
Speaker
there The offense is good to go, man. The Falcons offense is good to go. they They need to draft two straight rush ends. like They need to get two really good rush ends to start out that defense because that's their big problem is they get no pressure.
00:15:48
Speaker
Everybody who shits on the secondary, but it's like no team can win if your secondary is covering for 12 seconds every time they drop back to pass. I mean... Yeah, and that seemed to be the story, man. I think the offense is good to go. I think I expect him to have, you know, like a fringe top 10 offense this season.
00:16:03
Speaker
And it seemed like that not that the defense was horrible, right? They weren't the Bengals defense last season, but it seemed like any time it got to, you know, the winning time and you had to have that last stop, it just seemed like more times than not, the Falcons defense was not up to it. They were going to give up the the long third down play to let the team get in field goal possession or or give up the the red zone touchdown when a field goal sends it to OT or something. man. Like it just seemed like they, they never had that one last stop in them.
00:16:28
Speaker
Yeah. That's always been their biggest problem is they, they can't just always something goes wrong at the end of the game. But I agree with you. Their offense. I mean, sky's the limit for this ah offense. Yeah. Drake London's going to have a monster season this year. Bijan is a monster already. Like I just, I,
00:16:44
Speaker
The flash getting all the offseason reps. Yeah, I think at a bare minimum, their offense is definitely going to be good enough to make the playoffs. But you're right, dude. If everything clicks, they could end up being, you know, top top three, top four offense this year. Like the flashes we saw at the end of the season out of Pennix were enough to make me think, OK, they got the right guy quarterback. Now they just got to fill He's got the poise. He's got the arm strength. Like, yeah, he even, you know, obviously it ended on a sour note losing that game to the Panthers. But Penix played great, man. He looked great. He did his second start that went against the commanders. That was a big time game. That was playoff atmosphere.
00:17:19
Speaker
And dude balled out, man. It was more, you know, there was a couple passes that he sprayed that I think was more just, I think that was more in miscommunication than like inaccuracy and stuff. And he made some big time, big time clutch plays that game. I was i was very impressed. Yeah. I mean, they took the team that went to the NFC Championship game to overtime in their stadium in his second start. I mean, there's – and the majority of it was because of him. So, yeah, nothing to be a ashamed. they were just – they had a curse season last year, man. There's there' in one there's a multiverse out there where the Falcons go 14-3 and end up with the one seed, you know, and freaking make a – you know, get a home playoff win and all of a sudden they're in the conference championship. It was just a lot of bad breaks last year, man.
00:18:01
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much Falcons football is bad break after bad break. So it's not really that surprising. If they didn't have bad breaks, they'd have no breaks at all. ugly So enough about my depressing football team.
00:18:13
Speaker
Geno Smith traded to the Vegas Raiders.
Geno Smith Trade Analysis
00:18:17
Speaker
This is a good move to me for the Raiders, like especially with having Pete Carroll there. They just needed some stability at the quarterback position. like Geno doesn't have to be an all-pro at the Raiders. They just need some kind of stability there.
00:18:31
Speaker
And I think with having Pete Carroll, who knows him really well, is it's good for them. I mean, I'm not saying he's going to top of the league or anything, but he's definitely going to be better than what they've had the last five years.
00:18:42
Speaker
Yeah, Miles better than what he's had. i think it was a good faith move by the Seahawks. Looks like the Seahawks are fully hitting ah yeah they're hitting the the rebuild button, man, and send Geno to a spot a team that's scrapping, at least hoping hoping to compete for a playoff spot, man.
00:18:58
Speaker
So i'm I'm glad to see it happen, dude. oh I hope Geno gets a nice final chapter to his career there in Vegas. Shit, I don't think so. I think Seattle already did their rebuild. And then we'll go into this. Seattle signed Sam Darnold and Cooper Cup. Like, ah I feel like they're going for it, honestly. I mean, I don't know if i don't i don't know if it's the right move, and I still don't know if I trust Sam Darnold.
00:19:18
Speaker
But, dude, i just I feel like the moves they're making, it feels like they're actually going to try to win games. The biggest problem, though, is their offensive line was atrocious last year, and they still haven't done anything with that. So we'll kind of see where that goes. But I don't think the tank game...
00:19:33
Speaker
i i I don't know, bro. I feel like they're trying to make some moves to placate the fan base. I think Sam Darnold is a lot closer to that guy we saw at the end of the season. I think he's decent. I do think he's a starter in this league, but I think he's a lot closer to the guy we saw the last month of the season than the first couple months when he was looking like an MVP candidate. I give more credit to that to Kevin O'Connell for just scheming.
00:19:55
Speaker
Like I said, I think Darnold's decent, but i don't think he's... i don't think he's taken this roster places. And, dude, cooper cut has Cooper Cupp played four consecutive games since that 2021 season when he won the Triple Crown? Been a while.
00:20:07
Speaker
Yeah, man. I so i don't i trust the Rams. I think the Rams are one of the smartest franchises oh yeah in the league. And if they're pulling the plug on a guy who, again, had one of the greatest wide receiver seasons we've ever seen, one Super Bowl and MVP after leading and catches yards and touchdowns for the season, if they're willing to let a guy like that walk to a division rival, um that's kind of like that that's a big indicator for me that that you know we're we're at the end of the road with this dude. and I do think he'll be good. You're never going to be worse adding Cooper Cup to your team at a minimum. I think he's going to be great for the younger wide receivers, you know Jackson Smith and Jigba and stuff, being able to give them some pointers because Cooper Cup's definitely one of the best in the game when it comes to route running and just you know playing the game the right way. But I don't know how much juice he's added to them. I'm expecting the Seahawks to probably end up last place in that division.
00:20:54
Speaker
Interesting. um let's talk about the Patriots. This team, for whatever you want to say about them, they are at least trying. um So, i mean, they had a lot of big signings, they had another
Patriots' Key Signings
00:21:07
Speaker
one the other day. So this offseason, they signed Milton Williams, who was one of the best defensive tackles in the NFL last year on the Eagles, Harold Landry from the Titans, Robert Spillane, who's one of my favorite players in the NFL from the Raiders, and then two days ago, they signed Stephon Diggs.
00:21:22
Speaker
That Diggs contract is wild, though. three years, $69 million dollars for Stefan Diggs off an ACL tear is fucking insane. After you've seen two of the best teams in the league cut bait on him in the last two years, man. yeah there's clear There's definitely something wrong with the dude. I mean, he went from Minnesota to Buffalo to Houston, now to the Patriots. like Clearly, something's going on with the guy that...
00:21:44
Speaker
people cannot harness in. But either way, Patriots still got a lot better this offseason. And I'll give them credit. I mean, they hired who I still thought was like the best coach on the open market and variable. And always make chicken salad out of chicken shit. So if you give him a little bit of talent, they're going to go places, man. The biggest thing is they signed the first three things I said were all defensive players. That's what Vrabel wants. He wants his defense be hard-nosed, keep you in the game, be able to run the ball, throw it when you need to.
00:22:11
Speaker
um yeah i mean I was really happy with everything I saw out of Drake May last season, too, so I have no reason to believe that he's not going to take a big step up. I think Diggs will be good. He's going to get a huge target share, which is always his big complaint because he yeah he never feels like he gets the ball enough. He's getting the ball a bit more. he's a little bit more engaged, motivated, playing harder. that I could see that. That makes a lot of sense. He's definitely going to get the ball a lot in that offense. Like, I mean, that's who's going to be their number one receiver as of right now.
00:22:37
Speaker
Hey, not to go backwards, dude, but I didn't really think until brought the Patriots, dude. you know, we were talking about the Steelers, where they could do – bro Trade for big Joe Milton, man. They looked like an absolute stud that last game of the season when he started for the yeah the Patriots. And that's the story on Joe Milton. If you go back to his days at Michigan and then when he was at Tennessee, he'll always show you flashes of absolutely insane physical talent.
00:23:01
Speaker
But he's going to end up breaking your heart. He's got a little bit of like the James Winston in him. You know, awesome gunslinger, super duper entertaining to watch. But typically it's going to he's going to end up letting you down now.
00:23:12
Speaker
Yeah. But, you know, I don't think that'd be the worst move they could make. You know, it sounded it's cooled down a little bit. I know earlier in the offseason, were talks that the the Patriots were going get a second round pick for this guy. I think that's I think that's lost a little bit of steam. But, you know, if they can grab a third or fourth round pick for Joe Milton, I don't know if that's ah I don't know if that's not something that's not something you turn down if you're the Patriots, because I don't see him unseating Drake May at any time in the future.
00:23:35
Speaker
No, i agree. Um, the commanders dude, talk about a team that is just hitting every right move
Commanders' Roster Boost
00:23:43
Speaker
right now. I mean, from Dan Quinn on, they just, it just feels like they're hitting all the right keys. Like, I mean, it's like, it's like a beautiful musical, which hopefully it doesn't end like the Falcons musical with fucking Dan Quinn, but I mean, to get Debo Samuel and Laramie Tunsil in the same offseason, just it feels like you're just adding more juice to an already fun team to watch.
00:24:06
Speaker
Having a top three left tackle and then whatever you get out of Debo, I mean, it is going to be a major upgrade for this team at the at the number two receiver. And, dude, hopefully they they keep Debo in the same role that the Niners did, dude. Let him be a gadget player. you know give them to Give him the ball of the backfield.
00:24:23
Speaker
Let him just be kind of a safety valve. He's great on the on the wide receiver screen. It's taken him a long way, which is – that's something. Jay Daniels still got some time to to cook, man. As great as he was his rookie season, there's still you know a little bit of rough edges and stuff, man. And adding a vet like Debo is definitely not going to make any worse, dude. So, yeah, I'm right there with you, man. All all signs are pointing to a monster season from them. You just – you got to worry about the burden of expectation. Sophomore slump.
00:24:48
Speaker
yeah last season they were playing totally unburdened again sophomore slump dude nobody could hate on jane daniels at all if he has a little bit of regression in year two i think the dude's the truth man i think he's going to be a dude in this league for a very long time um But, you know, NFL defense coordinators are paid a lot of money and you got some really, really smart guys out there scheming and they they're going to have a whole offseason to watch tape and take away, you know, what this guy likes to do. But I'm i'm very, very confident that he's going to have, you know, two or three different counter punches ready to go for him because it seemed like he was always ready his rookie season. So I'm excited, man. Love DQ.
00:25:22
Speaker
Big fan of DQ. So I'm never going to root against him. And I'm happy for any success he finds. And it'd be fun story, man, because they have, ah ah you know, i I spent a lot of time in Northern Virginia. I lived there for about four years.
00:25:33
Speaker
And they they were the Redskins at the time. Awesome fan base. Like du me and Sheena used to do, we were hardcore Falcons fans at the time. Typically the Falcons were playing um at noon. And the Redskins being in the NFC East, they had a lot of four o'clock, or you know, three o'clock, four o'clock kickoffs.
00:25:49
Speaker
And that's when we go to our grocery shopping because the streets in ah Fredericksburg, VA, which is about an hour south of D.C., dude, they were empty. but When the Skins were on TV, people were home watching that game. So if you weren't a Skins fan, it was a great time to get out and run errands.
00:26:01
Speaker
Yeah, dude. I do think the sky is the limit for this team. i just if If their defense continues to play at ah the level they played at last year, I feel like the ah offense will do enough every week to to get them by.
00:26:15
Speaker
um yeah so They just ran into a buzzsaw, dude. philly Philly kept building momentum, and they were just – you know The Rams were the only team that really gave Philly a run for their money, man. Once yeah once they got past the Rams, dude, they were they were hitting on all cylinders. and i mean Honestly, the Commanders played them better than the Chiefs did in the Super Bowl, man. which you know They were both blowouts, but the Commanders at least kept it competitive for you know a quarter and a half, two quarters. the The Eagles were just an absolute machine by the time January rolled around this past season I'm not going lie. If that Rams game doesn't have snow, I think the fucking Eagles probably win that game by 30 points. I think the snow really balanced it out a lot. It was an equalizer, and the Rams were tough too, dude. The Rams were playing some damn good football down the stretch, man. But yeah, they and and there were a lot of breaks in with the Rams way that way too. That that was an awesome freaking game. But yeah, I agree with you, man. there so
00:27:01
Speaker
If they play that game 10 times, probably six or seven of them end in Eagles blowouts, man. But the one we got just happened to be one where the Rams took it to the wire. Okay, let's move on to the next one.
00:27:12
Speaker
The Jets and Justin Fields.
00:27:16
Speaker
The Jets are just like... wish the Steelers would have kept him, man. I don't know why the Steelers let him walk out the door, dude. The Jets are just like the team that is just like enamored with every project quarterback you could possibly ever have. Like, yeah oh man, you're not a finished product yet? Just come here and we'll make you a less finished product. Like, I just... I don't know what the Jets are doing. I don't think they know either, to be completely honest with you. It's just...
00:27:39
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, i will say this. Justin Fields showed more flashes last year than I thought he showed in the first three years with the Bears.
00:27:50
Speaker
Having said that, you can still tell he struggles reading a defense. Like, the speed of the NFL is a lot for him as far as, like, throwing the ball downfield. The guy still athletic as hell and can run and take off and do anything, and he can make the plays. It's just I still just don't trust him to always make the right decision.
00:28:08
Speaker
Yeah, man, the the the inconsistency. I feel like he's a player that's got ah very high like variability on how successful he's going to be, and it's tied to the team he's with, man. like yeah Obviously, every player, if they're on a better team, they're going to do better, but I feel like him especially. I feel like he could elevate if he's on a team that's got a really great coaching staff like the Steelers, he's surrounded with talent, where i feel like and I feel like he could be you know he could look like one of the best players in the league, I think, if things were clicking right.
00:28:33
Speaker
Sure.
00:28:40
Speaker
i don't like the infrastructure on that team i don't feel like there's any positive momentum rolling with the jets and i feel like they're gonna i don't know man maybe i'm wrong and they're cooking up some special scheme designed specifically for his talents but I feel like they're just going roll him out there and see what he can do. And I think there's going to be some very ugly Sundays for for Justin Fields i this season, which I you know i hate to see because I'm a fan of him, dude. Dude's electric when he's out there. They got pieces in place for him. Like, Brees Hall is a hell of a running back, and Garrett Wilson is a great wide receiver. I just – like, what else do they have, though, is the problem.
00:29:14
Speaker
Dude, that whole franchise is just rotten right now, man. they there To me, therere they're in the mix. They're they're down there where the commanders slash Redskins were for just being one of the worst managed teams in the league. I think they're down there with like the Jags and the Cardinals for just piss
Devonta Adams to Rams
00:29:29
Speaker
poor teams that you absolutely want no part of going to. Yeah.
00:29:32
Speaker
um Speaking of the Jets and upgrades, ah Devonta Adams goes to the Rams. Good Lord. Talk about going from the shithouse to the penthouse, like playing in McVay's offense as opposed to playing in the Jets' ah offense. I mean, this dude's just got to be absolutely giddy. Stafford can – Going from New York, New Jersey to L.A. also, man, just the geography. Back home for it. what a Yeah, back home. and Yeah, ah huge upgrade. You went from Aaron Rodgers' old ass slinging you the ball to Stafford's old ass, but he's still got an absolute cannon on him. like staff Yeah, and Stafford felt like he had a resurgence last year. We thought he might be done, man. and He you looked great, man. Like i said, they they gave the steelers every they gave the Eagles everything they could handle, dude. I think, yeah, I'm high on Devontae Adams. i wouldn't be you know
00:30:14
Speaker
We don't talk a ton of fantasy football on here, dude. I think you guys are looking him second round, man. I think he is going to be high volume, dude. I think him and and Puka are both going to have some monster season stats-wise for the Rams, dude. Because, you know, as – Obviously, it didn't show up on the stat line. I don't think he's lost that much from his peak. no He's still been balling out on some really bad situations with the Raiders and Jets, and now he's going one of arguably the best offensive line in the NFL. So I think he's going to put up a big season numbers-wise this year. Yeah, dude, I just i think him and Puka are both going to get 150-plus targets this year. i just I think those guys on opposite sides of each other going to eat and
00:30:54
Speaker
that Dude, going from Cooper Cup for whatever he's got left to Devontae Adams is just absolutely the most Rams, Sean McVay thing ever. like it's just It's crazy how much this team just gets it right.
00:31:07
Speaker
Uh, next one bills, uh, signing Joey Bosa. This one shocked me a lot. I thought we were all signs pointed to both to go into the Niners, but, uh, their cap situation is just atrocious. And I just don't think, I can't believe we didn't take the hometown discount or like the the family discount, man. Like you think it, even if it was just for one year, dude, like, yeah I don't know, man. I i mean, I get it, dude. The window of ah you know your top earning potential in the NFL is so short that you got to go where the big check's at. But, dude, I really feel like if I'm in that situation and like I can play with my brother, I'll just – I'll say, fuck it, dude. I'll take a one-year deal for the league minimum, man. But I don't know. Maybe there was something else to it. We don't know the ins and outs, dude.
00:31:49
Speaker
you know Maybe Nick was telling him, like, dude, you don't want to come here this season. I mean, dude – The Bills have been like an elite pass rusher away the last couple years. i mean That's what they signed Von Miller for, and it just never worked out. like I feel like if Joey Bosa's healthy with but the rest the defensive linemen they have, i mean I feel like their defense is just going to wreak havoc next year. like I agree. I think the defense is going to be awesome and it's still going to be Groundhog Day. They're going to lose a one-score game to the Chiefs in the playoffs, man. I think they're just du doomed. I'm not going to lie to you and I'm going to say this now.
00:32:23
Speaker
i think the Chiefs are going to regress this year. I i really do. They should. yeah Everything's teed up for it. You're right, man. if if you If you take away any of our preconceived notions about the Chiefs and just the inevitability of them being good, there's absolutely nothing that they've done this offseason to make you think they're gonna be
Chiefs' Potential Regression
00:32:41
Speaker
better. You Rasheed Rice still dealing with offseason drama.
00:32:43
Speaker
have you Have you seen all this stuff with Xavier Worthy, man? Yeah, man. There is. Kelsey is going to be a year older. Patrick Mahomes did get a new haircut, dude. That cannot be understated, dude. He's got a new haircut, which that either means he's about to go off for another 50-touchdown MVP season or he's about to regress to being you know the number 25-ranked starter in the league. I'm not going to lie to you, man. I just – A lot of people around here are obviously Chiefs fans, and just like the vibe I'm getting from them is not like a positive one at all.
00:33:13
Speaker
It's all starting to feel like Taylor Swift's about to break Travis Kelsey's heart and then write a song about the Chiefs, and they're just going to go in the shitter. Yeah, let's say again, you can never count them out, man, with as long as Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are there. But there's aside from that, aside from just the Mahomes-Reed factor, there's absolutely nothing that should make ah make us feel excited. feel like the Chiefs are teeing up to get right back to the mountaintop, man.
00:33:40
Speaker
I'm sure they're still going the mix because it's the Chiefs. i look at them as kind I think they're entering that phase. that you know The Patriots – um It was a nine-year break, dude. There was a nine-year gap between Super Bowl wins for the Patriots, right? Like, they won three early in Brady's career, and then they had a nine-year break where they were still in the mix every year, but, you know, they're getting knocked out in the divisional round.
00:34:01
Speaker
They're losing in the in the conference championship. They had a couple Super Bowl losses to the Giants. And it was legit 10 years, man, between their Super Bowl win over the Eagles and their Super Bowl win over the Seahawks, man. So I think maybe we're entering into that phase of, uh, of the, of the Mahomes read era. And we're going see a little bit of a dip for, for five or six seasons before they crank it back up. It's definitely possible. I mean,
00:34:24
Speaker
Dude, they just hit on everything for like a six-year span there. like From Mahomes and Reid on. They made no wrong moves. Every free agent they signed hit. All the drafts they did hit.
00:34:37
Speaker
i mean They traded for Hopkins, and that was just kind of a nothing burger of a move. like it just It didn't turn out to be anything. Yeah. Going to the actual games, every borderline like marginal decision they made seemed like it went in their favor, man. yeah like They got every big break. like Yeah, they they're due for a letdown. So, yeah, they're not at the top of my list for Super Bowl favorites. Again, they're still on the list. yeah They're definitely on the list of teams I could see holding up the Lombardi trophy at the end of the season, but I'm right there with you, man. it's that does not there's There's nothing that's going to spark your excitement about about Kansas City this season. all right, couple more things
Giants' New Quarterbacks
00:35:09
Speaker
here. um
00:35:11
Speaker
Russ and Jameis to the Giants is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. I just, dude, if the football gods are still out there and they still love us, NFL Films is going to go and start filming right now. I need her i need a reality show, dude. Russ and Jameis, man. Just the two of them all season long, their interactions, because you cannot have a more just like white bread ballad boring, like, you know, he's like, he's created in a corporate PR lab quarterback and an absolute wild car. Like one of the most entertaining personalities we've ever seen in the NFL together. Like I just did, need to see Russell get Russell Wilson, just getting like exasperated with Jameis Wilson's or Jameis Winston's bullshit as the season's going on, man. It's, it's going to be great. Hey, Mr. Unlimited, what are we going to do? We're going to go there and we're going to eat today. Dude, the locker room shit with that. I mean, it's going to be pure gold. Like, Russ is going to be so fucking annoyed, especially if he ever gets pulled for Jameis. Like, yeah, I just cannot even imagine the behind the scenes for that team right now.
00:36:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And that's the other thing, dude. Like, I think Russell Wilson's overly hated like just because of the way he acts, man. I think he's had a hell of a career and is ah a damn good football player. um But just his personality, he's turned into a little bit of a heel in the NFL world. And he's going to New York.
00:36:25
Speaker
And yeah, dude, if Jameis is the back, anytime Jameis Winston is the backup quarterback, he's the most popular player on the team. yeah by far I love James I was actually going to need retire and go into um like be a Fox pregame show host or something because he was perfect i think we need it i don't want to I don't want him as a pre-show I want him as a sideline reporter dude I think that's I think James would be solid like i need I need him like on the sideline or like in the stands doing stuff like that I need i need to see him interacting with people and I don't want him doing the stereotypical studio show if he's doing sideline then he needs a live mic at all times like his mic has to be live no matter what Like I remember that year that I'm going to a football with Booger McFarlane. He was on the side. Yeah. that We need something like that with Jameis, dude.
00:37:09
Speaker
Dude, it'd be absolute gold. Like Jameis is literally one of like my favorite players in the NFL and it's not even close. He's just hilarious. um Two more things.
00:37:20
Speaker
miles garrett goes back on his word saying he didn't he wanted to leave the browns go win a super bowl and then they threw 41 million dollars a year at i he was like never mind i'll play in this shit hole yeah i can't be mad at him dude i would 100 do the same thing but he definitely lost a little bit of street cred on that one man just because he came out so strong you know i love cleveland but i gotta go win a super bowl and then to totally roll it run it back it's like bro I mean, you you already ran down the franchise by saying, I need to go somewhere else to win a Super Bowl. And now you're like, all right, our goal is still to win a Super Bowl, even though I know we're not going to.
00:37:56
Speaker
Yeah, that's why that's another mark. NFL players, dude, handle your business quietly, dude, because you never know how these markets are going to develop and stuff. And... And you're just going to be made to look like a fool. Like i said, I don't know how much of a fool he really looks like cashing those checks.
00:38:12
Speaker
ah You know, he can wipe. He can do like the Woody Harrelson in Zombieland. he If he's feeling bad about himself, he can wipe his tears with the $100 bills. But it's it' is still straight up comedy just because he came out so strong against the Browns and then turns around and comes running back to him. I'm really disappointed that you used that movie and not Dumb and Dumber when Harry and Lloyd are blowing their noses with the $100 bills.
00:38:33
Speaker
Yeah. Anytime the Browns are involved, Dumb and Dumber might be the the choice to go for the reference. All right. Last NFL thing I wanted to talk
Titans' Draft Strategy Concerns
00:38:41
Speaker
about. I want to get your thoughts. We're about a month out from the draft. What do you think the Titans are doing with the number one pick?
00:38:48
Speaker
Dude, it doesn't seem like the trade market is developing around that pick and all signs are pointing to Cam Ward, which I hate, dude. You know, i will I will be very happy, dude. I would love to come on here in October and be like, dude, I was dead ass wrong. Cam Ward is the truth, man. Thank God we drafted this guy.
00:39:08
Speaker
But I just do not see it, man. I'm always a little bit wary about the the one-year wonders in college that have one huge year like that. I think Joe Burrow is definitely the exception of guys that kind of come out of nowhere one season and blow up.
00:39:20
Speaker
um I just don't see it with Cam Ward, man. I don't see as exciting as he was in college. his I've watched a ton of football, and to me, his game just does not translate. And I feel like it's going end up being a setback for the the Titans, dude. You can miss on the number one pick. That's always going hurt. But when you miss on a top five draft pick for a QB, it feels like, you know, unless you're the 49ers, it feels like it sets your franchise back.
00:39:44
Speaker
years dude um abdul carter was the other guy that was talked about as the possible number one but i think some of the he's got some health concerns man i think that some of the stuff with that foot has scared away teams i think that's especially if you're a ah guy who relies on just insane explosiveness like him um i think you're a little bit nervous on investing the number one pick and you know travis hunter is there dude i wouldn't be mad if they took travis hunter i just feel like he's just not quite a number one overall pick candidate i feel like so i feel like they're feeling some pressure there to take the QB just because obviously that's, that's the most immediate way to change the fortunes of your franchise. But again, man, I hope I'm wrong. I don't see it with, with Cam Ward, dude. I wouldn't be mad at all if they just took Travis Hunter, struggle through another season and maybe they're at the top again next year when, when Arch Manning's coming out.
00:40:30
Speaker
Yeah. I, I just, what's your thoughts on Cam Ward, dude? Where are you at on him, man? Um, I personally think he's good. i just here's Here's the problem. I think he is a bit of a project quarterback, and the Titans can't be drafting a project because they have no quarterback. like yeah But then again, the problem is is you can't roll into the season with the quarterbacks you have now. like You cannot throw Will Levis out there again.
00:40:54
Speaker
and just that's why i'm almost That's why I feel like they're taking Cam Ward because they didn't make any moves. Mason Rudolph was good enough to start, but they let him walk, dude. so um yeah To me, like I said, all signs are pointing to Cam Ward, man.
00:41:06
Speaker
I would rather take Shador than him. But i don't think Shador's number one pick worthy either, dude. It's just a shitty year to have the first overall pick, man. It's just absolutely brutal. I mean, out of all years to get it, this is a bad year. If I'm if i'm in there, dude, if they call me up and let me pick, i just take I'm taking Travis Hunter because I feel like he can't miss. Even if even if you're getting 80 cents on the dollar for the number one pick by drafting him first overall, I feel like you at least know that's somebody that is going to be a star for you. you know Maybe he doesn't quite make it to be a superstar, but he's going to be a star for you for the next eight or nine seasons. so
00:41:40
Speaker
Yeah. All right, that's it for Football Talk, but hold on, don't don't hit that dial yet. We're going to discuss a couple things that Seth's not overly familiar with, but we're going to sure try to get something out of him.
00:41:52
Speaker
ah March Madness. So we're in the final, well, now we're in the final 15 teams because BYU just lost Alabama. Who do you think is going to win the national title for college basketball?
00:42:06
Speaker
Rocky top, though. They're about to bounce Kentucky tomorrow, and they're going all the way to the top, bro. The Vols are the balls are going to their first Final Four, and they're winning their first national championship. I'm not going to lie to you. I was not sold on Alabama at all coming into tonight. They beat the shit out of BYU. put up 113 points in a tournament game. That is fucking insane.
00:42:25
Speaker
Florida beat Maryland, too, so we're down to our Final 14. Yep, you're right. I had Florida winning. um Florida was the overall number one, right? No, Auburn. and Okay.
00:42:37
Speaker
um I had Florida winning, but dude, watching Duke's path to the final four, if they get there, they just have such an easier path than anyone else, which is just, complete garbage on the NCAA's part. I know what they're trying to do. Like, they do they just want Duke to always be there. And, I mean, I get it, but it's just, it's stupid.
00:42:56
Speaker
But first weekend of the tournament this year was just a complete dud. Sunday was the only day that was even remotely good. um This is, like, I hope this is not just a sign of things to come with NIL where it just kind of ruins it. Yeah, I know you you're a lot different.
00:43:10
Speaker
Closer to the flame on ah on college basketball than I am, dude. I've seen a lot of the chatter, though, man, that you know the Cinderella runs are over with because anybody that's half decent is at on a mid-major, they're going get snatched up by the big boys after their their freshman or sophomore season. So ah do you think this is a one-year aberration where you have almost all power conference teams in the Sweet 16, or is this this the new normal for college basketball? i think this is the new new normal. Since Monday, the transfer portal opened. There's been 1,700 players who have entered the transfer portal. like Bye.
00:43:41
Speaker
This transfer portal NIL shit is not good for college basketball. sent Jordan a ah graphic a couple days ago that had all the Sweet 16s in their original starting lineups based based on where that player started school at, and it's crazy the amount of transfers, man. like there's only I think, what was it, Purdue and I think Duke were the only teams that had four out of the five of their starting lineup that weren't transfers. Yeah, dude, it it's crazy. I hope but this isn't just an always thing, but i just I have a bad feeling it's going to be.
00:44:11
Speaker
We saw you know similar similar with college football, man. I feel like the – obviously, we're we're stoked with the 12-team playoff. It's great. But I think it came around about 12 or 15 years too late because I think it coming after the NIL, you'd think with the expanded playoff, you'd see the teams like Boise State you know or ah Utah back in the day that could have a more realistic run at the national championship. But I feel like it's actually somehow – more unrealistic for those teams to make a run nowadays just with NIL where you're having all of that talent concentrated amongst the top, you know, ah eight or nine teams in in the nation.
00:44:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's wild. um Another thing that Seth said he was going to try to get into this year, so we'll see how much he actually got into it. We're almost to the playoffs now.
00:44:58
Speaker
Give me your NBA finals pick as of today. I know we did this before the season, but I want um want to see where you're at as far as today as opposed to beginning of the season.
NBA Finals Predictions
00:45:08
Speaker
Celtics are still in the mix, dude. you know They've been winning here recently with without Jason Tatum.
00:45:13
Speaker
um I think they're they're very strong. The Lakers, dude, you can never it's always going to be tough to beat LeBron. and A team with LeBron and Luka Doncic on it four times in seven games. so That's going to be tough, man. If I had to make a pick right now, I still think the Thunder are just – they're a regular season team. I don't think they're a playoff team. I'm to say the Lakers, dude. I hate to say because my Grizzlies are staring down the barrel of a first-round matchup with the Lakers right now.
00:45:39
Speaker
um And I think the Grizzlies are actually going to end up with home court on that. you know The Lakers had a little bit of a losing streak going before LeBron hit that buzzer beater last night. Yeah. i think the I think it's going to be the Lakers and the Celtics. I think we're going to get the NBA's wet dream in the finals, and I think the Celtics beat them and go back-to-back.
00:45:56
Speaker
um I kind of went back and forth on who I was going to pick for the West. My East is not going to change as much as I would love to see the Cavs do in the I picked the Bucs, didn't I? don't remember. I think we both picked the Celtics, honestly.
00:46:11
Speaker
I thought I picked the Bucs. I was thinking Dame and Giannis year two was going to be in picked the Celtics to go back-to-back for the season, and I'm not going to change it now. As much as I would like to see the Cavs do it, it just it feels like it's going to fizzle out in the second round, what they're doing right now.
00:46:25
Speaker
And I agree with you. I think the same thing is going to happen to Thunder. I think both these teams that are just setting the world on fire this year are both going to fizzle out in the second round. I would love to. Playoff basketball so different from regular season basketball. besides me being a cast fan, the two games that the thunder and calves played were just like incredible basketball.
00:46:44
Speaker
I would love to see that finals matchup, but the NBA would absolutely hate that. Like that's two of the smaller market teams. I could possibly get 1500 people watching. I'm going go a nuggets Celtics. Actually. I think the nuggets are going to get hot. Jokic is going to do his thing as much as I would love to pick the Lakers. I feel like their defense is just going absolutely kill them in the playoffs. Like Luka cannot play defense. You just cannot convince me that a team with him as a ah lead defender, on-ball defender, and then no center at all is going to win the finals. so If the Grizzlies are healthy, man, I do think the Grizzlies could take him out. But, dude, it's been – I feel like it's it's like ah the fucking shittiest Venn diagram ever, dude, between the times that John Morant and Jaron Jackson have both been healthy this season, man. like It's just – it feels like you know that's the Grizzlies' two best players, and it feels like one or the other has been hurt at all times this season.
00:47:34
Speaker
Yeah. I don't yeah don't know. it just It's tough for me to pick anybody yeah other than the Celtics, which sucks because it kind of just takes the fun out of the playoffs for me because I just think they're just like a and they're just like a machine. LeBron needs another run, man. i feel like i feel like though I feel like they need to get to the final. even Maybe they don't need to win it, dude. I feel like we need to see LeBron in another finals, dude, because that bubble championship is fading big time. and Now he's in this super petty thing Jesus, dude.
00:48:05
Speaker
it's an i don't think lebron's necessarily wrong for anything that he's saying dude i kind of like philosophically agree with him but dude yeah you for a while there man i will start to entertain maybe he really does got the better career that jordan just off the longevity and how long he's been doing it at the absolute peak But it's like the it's the personality stuff, man. It's all the times where we've seen him be somewhat nonchalant about losing, where you felt like once MJ got to the top of the mountaintop, dude, like you felt like he would legit die, bro. I think he would let somebody kill him before he took a loss.
00:48:35
Speaker
in the finals. And he would never, it's a different era with how um interactive the the players are with the media, but you would never, ever in a million years see MJ getting into this super petty ass feud with somebody who, you know, all respect to Stephen A. Smith.
00:48:51
Speaker
He's so far beneath LeBron, bro. As far as like legacy and importance to the sports world goes, man. Like, i just I feel like it it is just it's demeaning LeBron to even get into making social media posts and going on the Pat McAfee show to try to get points on. And, like dude, LeBron, man, you're one of the all-time greatest athletes in any sport ever. like just whoever is like I'm sure he's just surrounded by yes-men at this point in his life, but somebody has got to be able to set him down and be like, bro, this is not a good look, regardless of whether you're we're right or wrong on this one.
00:49:22
Speaker
I just feel like, I mean, that's the one thing about him is like, dude, he's just, he defends his kids to the absolute death. I mean, he is a great dad. I think that's one thing that nobody can ever take away from him. Oh, yeah. He's got the family man stuff. He's got MJ smoked on that, Stephen A. just said something about Bronny and LeBron didn't.
00:49:41
Speaker
And dude, to be fair, it's the same shit that all the analysts are
Bronny James' NBA Prospects
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saying. Like he only got drafted because of LeBron, which I don't know if you paid attention at all, but like the past like three weeks in the G League, like Bronny is balling this point. He's been turning up, bro. Yeah. He dropped 17 points in that game in the NBA. And then, yeah, what he dropped, was it like 39 or 41 he dropped in the G League? Yeah. I mean, he's he's starting to to turn a bit of a corner. Yeah.
00:50:03
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I still don't know if he's going to be like a regular in the NBA, but dude, he's at least turned a corner where it at least makes a little bit of sense what he was doing. So I just think the whole thing is beneath him. do Like again, Stephen, a for everything he's accomplished, obviously dude, you know, we're doing a podcast right now, man. I'd love to have half the media footprint. But,
00:50:21
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but But, dude, he he's a clown compared to LeBron. you know he he's straight if you know he's He's the court jester to King James, man. and The fact that LeBron has even given this guy this much power and attention, um again, I just think it's beneath him, dude.
00:50:36
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Yeah. It's not a good look. I'll say that. I just feel like LeBron's starting to hit his petty phase now of life. mean, he's 40 years old and he just wants to petty Yeah, it's like suddenly he's got time to talk to these guys, man.
00:50:51
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i don't I don't know. it's It's just a weird thing. But yeah, that that's all I had for questions for us. I just kind of wanted to wrap up everything from free agency unless you have anything else you want to hit on.
00:51:04
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No, we do get some good listener mail, though, we can dive into. Let's do it. All right, so we're going to ignore our buddy Phil Dunnitz. Yeah, we're not answering that on our question. If you're ah if you're a Patreon member in the Chick-fil-A show group, you've seen it. You're a psycho. Take a look at that.
00:51:19
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Ari says, any opening day predictions to win
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the World Series? I wouldn't even know where to start on this, dude. I will say the Dodgers just because Shohei Otani was a Fortnite skin a couple weeks ago. So I'll say the Dodgers go back to back. That's a very, very good prediction, Seth. The Dodgers are going back to back. I agree with you on that.
00:51:38
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All right. Ari also says, what's currently getting you through these tough times? I mean, during the football offseason, I just mentioned it. It's been Fortnite, dude. my My son, Brett, got big into Fortnite. And obviously, he's still at an age where I'm not really comfortable with him kind of like squatting up with like random strangers and stuff on there because you do got to kind of have some teamwork and interaction if you're playing, playing squads. So, you know, I got into it and then that brought Jordan back into it. We've been getting on with my cousin Taylor also. We've we're actually been fairly successful, man, especially considering how relatively new to the game we are. And it's been a ton of fun. Me and Jordan been getting on there more, more nights than not and playing together. And it's been an absolute blast. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's, it it has been a lot of fun and this time of year usually does suck considering there's no football, but NCAA tournament always gets me through it. So yeah, we're, we're doing good right now.
00:52:26
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Zach Hertzler says thoughts on ice hockey. If you talk bad on hockey, I'll be upset with you, dude. I really in the mid 90s, I was big on the EA Sports NHL games. So I had a passing interest in NHL just so I would know like what teams are going to be good to play with on there. But that kind of faded. And um I'm going on 20 years plus that I have not been that invested at all in hockey.
00:52:47
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I love hockey. I'm a huge Penguins fan, which is not going to sit well with Zach either because I know he's a huge Flyers fan. and we The fan bases don't like each other. The teams don't like each other. so yeah i always love hockey and I always look forward to NHL playoffs because it is the best playoffs in sports. and i mean It's literally phenomenal hockey every night. so Did I ever tell you my Stanley Cup championship story about the Anaheim Ducks? No.
00:53:11
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Okay, so this is I'll tell this, too. This is my one hockey memory. and is is actually I sometimes get goosebumps even even telling the story, man, because it was just an absolutely legendary moment to be a part of. so it's two You guys know I'm in the Navy, dude. So 2007, the Ducks are in the Stanley Cup. I can't remember. who If you had asked me a million dollars who they played that year, I can tell you.
00:53:32
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But it was Game 6 or Game 7, man. it was They were you know closing in on winning the championship. And i was on a ship that happened to be in port in San Diego. And I'm a young junior sailor in the Navy. So like, you know, kind of don't really I wasn't my normal self now that like would only do strictly what I want to do and nothing else. I was kind of cool to go with the crowd. And one of my really good friends on the ship was a diehard Ducks fan. Right. These do love the Ducks. And for whatever reason, he got it in his head that we needed to go to L.A. because you remember when they used to have like there was like five or six ESPN, the zone like restaurant and sports bars around the country. Oh, yeah.
00:54:07
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So there was one of those in l LA and for whatever reason, he was like, we got to go to the yeah ESPN, the zone in Los Angeles to, uh, to watch this game, man. So we drive up, uh, you know, three hours up the coast, uh, to, to go up to LA from San Diego.
00:54:22
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We get there, uh, we get the last table in the place, right? Like, cause it was packed. It was slammed with ducks fans. Um, So we're in there. We watch the game, dude. Pounding beers all day. And our friend that was the actual, it was me, the dude that was a Ducks fan, somebody else.
00:54:36
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The Ducks fan, he started to get the birdie, start taking shots and stuff, right? So he's fucking wasted, man. Like just, you know, three sheets to the wind. He's gone. Like the point where he's like almost basically passed out at the table, right? He's kind of going in and out of consciousness, dude. We're kind of nudging him to wake him up.
00:54:49
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And so he he's kind of checked out on it, dude. By this point, we're getting into it. It got to the third period. I want to say they were winning like four to two, right? And it got to that point in the game where you knew like, okay, it's impossible that they're coming back, right? And everybody, you could just feel the vibe in the room start kind of building. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, dude, the Ducks fan fucking snaps too, man.
00:55:07
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And he goes, I'm starting to chant. And we're like, okay, bro. And he starts fucking pounding the table going, quack, quack, quack. And, dude, I will be – I'm getting goosebumps right now, thinking about this story, dude. I will be damned, man.
00:55:22
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Within about freaking like 15 to 20 seconds, like 80% of the fucking place is pounding on their tables going quack, quack. And then you keep going through the last like 35, 40 seconds of the game until the buzzer hit, dude. And it was just – dude, we were laughing so hard. We legit had tears running down our face, man, that he just fucking pops up from his coma and initiates this moment. And I'm sure anybody that was there still remembers it to this day. man like unfortunately it was like pre uh like smartphone era so you know nobody had like you know video of it and shit dude but you know i'm sure if you maybe if you get up and fire up the deep like you know uh anaheim ducks reacon forms you probably find somebody that was there that will share that story because it was it was an awesome sports bar moment that is awesome that's great
00:56:07
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Yeah, dude. It was, like I said, that's my one big hockey member. I hadn't even thought about that in years, man, until Zach sent that question. Tony Barker, have you picked a UFL team? And if so, who you got? Memphis Showboats. Duh. Come on.
00:56:19
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I don't have a team, but I am going to try to watch more of it this year, more than I did last year, because I just, I don't know, I always forgot it was on, and um I'm going to make a better effort to watch. Does Omaha not have a team? I thought there was like the Omaha Nighthawks something. No, that was a completely different league, bro. Thanks for bringing up past things. i What league was that? Around since Rosenblatt, which was like 14 years ago at this point.
00:56:41
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what was i don't remember what the name of the league was. It wasn't UFL, though. There's a St. Louis Battlehawks. Yeah. The San Antonio Brahmers, the Michigan Panthers, Memphis Showboats, Houston Roughnecks, the D.C. Defenders, Birmingham Stylings and the Arlington Renegades. So, yeah, showboats all the way, man. All right. And last question, which NFL mascots do you think you could batter and which ones could batter you? That's Phil Dunnett. If you didn't you know realize it was somebody from the UK using batter as a just casually using batter as a verb like that.
00:57:12
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Um, I can tell you two I'm beating the shit out of. Sir Per and Sir Saint, or whatever the hell they call them, I'm beating the shit out of those two guys. I always liked the Colts mascot, man. He always seemed like super sassy, dude. He was real big on the crotch thrust at the opponents. Yeah, dude. Blue is awesome.
00:57:29
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And then, you know, Jackson DeVille for the Jaguars. He's an absolute madman. Like he may also be an AEW employee because he's always doing some. I feel like anytime I watch a Jaguars game, he's doing some fucking insane stunt. Like he's going to jump through three flaming hoops or something. So maybe I just maybe I just push that motherfucker. And when he's going through, you know, doing one of his things to just sabotage him.
00:57:49
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Wow. All right. That is it for our off season episode. I was busy today. didn't get chance to sketch it out the way we're going to. We're probably we're most likely going to do a ah draft recap right after the NFL draft.
00:58:02
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And then instead of doing, ah you know, the biweekly shows with two teams at a time, we're going to do do eight. off-season episodes where we pick a division each time. we're going to wait until free agency and the draft's kind settled down. So we really got an accurate picture what these teams are going to look like in 2025. But that's how we're roll out the off-season schedule for the goal line. So it won't be as big of a gap between last episode this one before we're back with you guys. Jordan's going to be here in a couple weeks for WrestleMania. So don't know if it's going to be goal line or regular Chick-fil-A show. We're definitely going to crank out some...
00:58:36
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Some podcast content for you guys, though, and we'll we'll be talking to you guys sooner rather than later. Jordan, here's some closing thoughts, man, and we'll get out of here. Yeah, if we don't talk to you guys before the draft, ah enjoy your your month in between now and then. Enjoy the Masters. Enjoy your Easter. And, yeah, we'll talk to you guys soon.
00:58:55
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Sunday morning, man, she woke up fighting mad.
00:59:03
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Bitchin' moinin' on and on about the time I had And by Tuesday you could say that girl was good as gone And then when Thursday came around I was all alone
00:59:30
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She swore they were a waste of time, but she was wrong.
00:59:54
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And I ain't gotta see my ex-future mother-in-law