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Season 5- Episode 29- Wiping Noses & Other Ends (6 Nations Final & Super Rugby Round 4)
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It's time for more of those American rugby goofs. On this episode we look back at the the final round of 6 Nations, who looks good, who needs to right the ship and all that jazz. Of course, we hop down to the southern hemisphere too to recap all the happening in Super Rugby Pacific including the big one at Eden Park and surprise squeaky bum time in Brisbane. All this, so much more, kick back, have something to drink and enjoy the ramblings with us.
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Introduction and banter
00:00:02
Speaker
It is The Fantasy Europeans. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion. Collusion.
Episode feedback and listener engagement
00:00:27
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Let's go, baby. We got not all that much to talk about, but some really important shit to talk about. Compared to last week, much less.
00:00:40
Speaker
Hey, you know what? We made good time last week. We did. I was like, holy shit. This is less than an hour and a half. I'm impressed we got there. Right. It was long, but damn, we had a lot to cover. I was impressed we got to that point. Yeah. Yeah. I need a drink. I do too. I'm trying out a new... Sorry. Go ahead. Do you have the spiel? No. Yeah. So find us on your favorite podcast app. Download rate review. Share. Share being the emphasizing thing on that one. Sharing is caring.
00:01:10
Speaker
It is a feedback welcome.
Cider tasting and local flavors
00:01:15
Speaker
Damn, my youngsters are driving me up a tree already. Yeah, try to. It's another local cider from from Harvard Mass called it's Carlson Orchards. That's called Honeycrisp because I like Honeycrisp apples, so I wanted to. Obviously, I was going to try that and it's delicious. It does taste exactly like Honeycrisp apple.
00:01:39
Speaker
Except it gets a joke. You're right. It might be the softest thing I've ever said about a hard drink. It's just like a Honeycrisp apple. Oh my. It's delightful. Yeah, I got, I got, I had something I don't really keep it. Anyway.
Supporting Fantasy Rugby Geek
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Speaker
Make sure that you are helping out and supporting our good friend, George, the face of your rugby geek, buy me a coffee, buy him a beer, however you wish to see it. Good, good lad was nice and busy last weekend. We'll be going forward as well as we get into, we're still into dual competition and going forward until REM's over, I think. So yeah, we're, we're, we're all busy over here for a while. So make sure you support our different George. Absolutely.
Pride Night incident in NHL
00:02:30
Speaker
As always, there is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. We had another unfortunate incident for a pride night in NHL, the ice hockey league over here.
00:02:46
Speaker
I was, I was, it's unfortunate that it's come up twice now that we've had two players and we get more about themselves than it is about the night. Yeah. And this time the, the player kind of put itself like put it out there. He may put out a statement ahead of the game as to why he wouldn't be participating. And it's like,
00:03:05
Speaker
All right, asshole, you shake only anyway, so it doesn't matter. Good. You say you stay over there. Well, we'll deal with everything else otherwise. Right. But I thought it
Luke Prokop on hockey diversity
00:03:15
Speaker
was interesting. I saw when when did he tweet this out? Last week. What's today? So the 22nd. So it was, yeah, two nights ago.
00:03:26
Speaker
a gentleman by the name of Luke Prokop, who is in the Nashville Predators organization. He's an AHL player who is out of the closet. He's openly gay. He basically said that you're entitled to your own beliefs, but you're not endorsing homosexuality. It's not an endorsement saying, yay, gay. It's just saying that hockey's for everybody.
LGBTQ+ challenges in NHL
00:03:54
Speaker
It's a celebration of diversity.
00:03:56
Speaker
Um, like, and now you're making about yourself. Cause it's not, you know, you admit about something that it's not. And he's like, this hockey is supposed to be for everyone. And obviously I'm not welcoming an NHL locker room yet. Cause this is the way NHL players are. Um, so that's, that's pretty, you know, the, the other league should step in at this point. I think that's a fairly generous point of view from this, from this player from pro cop as well. Cause yeah, you know, he's willing to.
00:04:26
Speaker
work with these people and, you know, a player like Dipshit in San Jose. And work on, he's willing to work on this and be like, all right, I can see your point of view, whatever. But I'm also trying to tell you that, you know, this is you telling me that I would not be welcome in your locker room. And that's not really awesome. That's not an awesome thing.
Broader LGBTQ+ societal issues
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Yeah, and that's why we talk about it being, you know,
00:04:53
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a good thing to not discriminate because discrimination means people aren't welcome. There's a lot of issues going around with the LBGT community at this point and they're under attack by a lot of people and they're being called all sorts of names. They get called groomer and yet every time I see someone arrested for
00:05:16
Speaker
abuse of children. It's a youth pastor. It's a cop. It's, you know, someone in a position of a conservative position of authority. So it's a little, you know, but they're the ones who are under attack are the ones who are outcast and not welcome. And we so we did see a
00:05:40
Speaker
fairly prominent, I guess, trans activist from Saudi Arabia who seems like they seem to have died, I guess, after they were returned to their parents, potentially suicide, I think. I don't know the details, but I'm pretty sure it was. But it's like, that's what happens. You tell people they can't exist.
00:06:02
Speaker
And yeah, have tried living your life with every, you know, so many people, so much of society that they see saying you should not even exist. Yeah. Um, it gets old. So that that's not, yeah, it's, it's a hard way to live. There really is no doubt. Like it's fun to joke about gingers, but you know, they, yes, they were once like that. That's like not really cool. Cause yeah, there's people, you know, they,
00:06:30
Speaker
They used to be treated poorly. They had their turn. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, that's not. Yeah, that's how fucking silly is that, though? Right now. We look back and we like that was so stupid. And Italians had their turn as well. And, you know, they were not considered equal to anybody else. You know, that was white and Protestant, basically. And I was like, it's like, yeah.
00:06:52
Speaker
Yeah. You think, oh, that's so silly now. It's like, yeah, well, so why do you think the rest of this is okay? I don't get it. I'm really, really having a hard time grasping what the hell you're driving at here. Yeah. Truly. Truly, truly.
European rugby tournament humor
00:07:08
Speaker
Well, if you didn't hear, there was a, there was the final of a tournament going on over, over in Europe. I don't know.
00:07:15
Speaker
I don't know a whole lot about it. Yeah, it's kind of obscure. There's only six countries that are involved in it, so it really can't be that important or anything. Nobody counts that, right? I mean, you want to go to a rugby tournament. You want like 30 or 40 teams there. That's a good time. What's this? Six business. Whatever. Let's chat it up.
Italy vs. Scotland rugby analysis
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So let's start with the day over at Edinburgh.
00:07:40
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So fucking nearly again, Italy, like, oh, man. And here's the thing, like, this is not. It's not a full strength Italy. It was not a full strength Italy. And this is not this was not a full strength Scotland either. No, it wasn't. But it wasn't the B squad that we see them that we used to see teams rotating in there. Yeah. To play against Italy. You know what I mean? No, this is doing what they had thrown, what they had at the smash. Right. I mean, this is a bar of the two injuries. Mm hmm.
00:08:09
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This is everything. You know, hogging Finn and let's be honest, it's probably beyond his day. I still don't get the point of playing King Hornet 10. And yes, I'd always scored three tries, but...
00:08:23
Speaker
But they were up 15 tries. They were. They were open play back three player tries, not right things you you would score from 10. Right. When you're when you're 15 subs in as you're like, it's the same thing as the Alex Goode thing when when they throw him in and end the Damien McKenzie thing. Like, yes, they will score tries at 10, but they also make some selfish decisions and they kind of clunk up the game at times.
00:08:48
Speaker
Um, and I think King Horn did, it was not a very fluid performance by any stretch from, from Scotland, which is why, you know, Van de Merver and, and, you know, King Horn combined for four tries. And that's like, right. You know, that, that you don't want your fly half scoring three tries when you have that much talent around him. Although if he can, he can. So.
00:09:10
Speaker
Right. And certainly, but like, I mean, yeah, he's what is he's like, he's a fucking six, five, like 220. Huge. Like, yeah, that's an enormous human being. That's a nice physical challenge to have him run it. You're like RBC. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Oh, yeah.
00:09:32
Speaker
He has his kicking percent. It still isn't that good. That's the other thing, you know, but it costs them against Australia in the fall. Yeah. Yeah. And that was a team. They should have won that game as well. So it was. And the Richie on the yellow really. That really fucked him. That was and that's the end. Yeah.
00:09:56
Speaker
So it was, it was great play from Italy for the most part though. And that's that, you know, shit. If that, if that Italy team came to play last week, yeah, they definitely would have beat Wales because Wales still not been good. Yeah. It was certainly a gritty and gutty performance from Italy. It was no.
00:10:17
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was certainly a game. It was it was thrilling towards the end. So, yeah. Right. Not exactly a snoozer. Right. I mean, it was. Yeah, there was there was 1419. It was there was within a try of of of a game. And then. Yeah. And then obviously, it's called and get the got the royal royal Wang put it away to send it to send it home. But yeah, that was a fun try, too, by the way. Oh, it was unquestionably unquestionably good. It was.
00:10:47
Speaker
That was the try. That's a type of try you want in a game, no matter what. So yeah, just disappointing fairly in a lot of ways, but at the same time, like this is,
00:11:06
Speaker
a step in the right direction because, as I said, teams are still are now having to put effort in your full noise teams against them. Right. In order to put them to the sword, because otherwise, yeah, they'll they'll catch him napping. And make no mistake, you know, you want he's coming back for the World Cup. Yes. Peledry will be in. What are they going to do with Peledry? Like Negri was so good. Let's say this whole back row played really well. Like do you bump him in?
00:11:34
Speaker
Well, hard to say this. Yeah, I, yeah, that's gonna be an interesting conundrum in a way. Good one of those good problems. I think they call them. Yeah, yeah, I think that's what they call them. That's what they've been told. Right.
France vs. Wales match insights
00:11:55
Speaker
So let's go over to Paris, France and Wales.
00:12:04
Speaker
And it was exactly as we thought it would be. It really wasn't a whole lot of, a lot of question on that one. If we're honest, um, I know, yeah, I know whales got four tries, but really like, they got a couple of them when the game was gone. Right. You know, they scored two in the last 15 minutes, one in basically the final minute. Yep. Yeah. The dire tribe was right at the death. Yeah.
00:12:30
Speaker
Let's see. It was when they got there or their second one. Oh, it was a whole 34 to 19th when they got their second one. Right. Yeah. What were the final? Hold on. And I wanted to look at this before and I hadn't had a chance here. So I want to look. Points for so tries for whales. If you
00:12:57
Speaker
aren't really counting up the Italy game that they'd send less than 10. Okay. That's not awesome. And I know they, and really, you know, they had a couple of garbage time tries here. It's like, I don't feel, I would not feel, feel good going into the fall with this team.
00:13:21
Speaker
There's way too many question marks here. Not very much, no. I don't know if they have, Wynn Jones is out of form. So that means the front row is just Ken Owens at this point. That's not awesome. No. The Bionic Man, Alan Wynn is going to be leaned on really hard to be Superman again. It's like,
00:13:50
Speaker
And I, I, I don't see Adam Beard being what they need him to be in order to. No, not really. Um, the back row is a mess. I think if I think some of the.
00:14:05
Speaker
spark plugs they could put in there along with some balanced heads. They just seem to refuse to do it. So, okay, have fun with that. And Reese Webb has played himself probably into the team for a little while, I'd say, but, you know, Reese Webb's up there in age. So who's your backup plan? Right. You're still, it's the, to me, it's, it's the Johnny Sexton conundrum where you know, you're going to want a backup, a capable backup ready to go. Otherwise that could cost you a game.
00:14:35
Speaker
Mm hmm. Absolutely. Like the game that you shouldn't you should be winning. And that's again, that's my biggest nerves about Ireland is that what's going to happen if Sexton is out in the World Cup if he misses multiple games? Because he's no spring chicken and he's been known to miss. He's been known to miss time. So. Of course. But yeah, but for for for Wales, fuck, they really can't have anybody.
00:15:03
Speaker
No, nobody can get hurt right now. But he was so good the last couple of matches, you're right, that they cannot afford it. He became like someone they really needed. That's kind of scary. Yeah, it is a little bit in a lot of ways. You know, there's I thought Josh Adams was trash this tournament. I really did. He's been poor. Yeah, it's a lot of now for me to pass. Right. You know, I'm still trying to.
00:15:32
Speaker
you know, pass off Lee half penny is somebody that should be playing at international level. It's like, okay. You want to bring him in for an old head to come some of the pops? Okay. But don't, don't be right. Actually. Yeah. Right. That's not bad. Have him on the 23. They'll come in. We'll spell somebody. Okay. But yeah, it can't be your starting 15 if you are serious.
00:16:00
Speaker
And then, and, and Fred, so, and then let's, yeah, let's look at France.
French rugby team's potential
00:16:03
Speaker
So we have, yes, please. We have, we have the French juggernaut that we thought we were going to see for a while. It took them a little longer than they needed because obviously they got, they got bit by Ireland early, but they're back. They are, they, they looked every part of a world cup favorite. And really to say that they're not is, you know, they're, they're on, they're on the short end of the, no doubt about that.
00:16:29
Speaker
Yeah, I would, I would not sleep on them. They're like, yeah, it's, they're certainly one of the best too. They're probably the, you know, obviously top two in Northern hemisphere. I don't know that anybody, I would, I would take France up against South Africa right now, just cause the way they play, like they don't, okay, be physical. That's great. Well.
00:16:50
Speaker
We'll, we'll run around you. We'll, we'll sort out that defense. Um, they can, they can unlock any defense. That's just ridiculous. And they just got to make sure that they, uh, keep their discipline. That's the one that's their Achilles heel is, is, you know, can they stay out of the box? Yeah. Keep stay off the naughty step and that'll be great. And I don't see any, and it's.
00:17:13
Speaker
They have depth too, which is really, really bad news for everyone. Like, okay, they lose Marcia. Well, they still have a couple of good ones. You know, Malvaca is pretty good. Uh, he's shown, showing good signs. Yeah. That would not worry about that at all. Right. And Dante is back. He's, he's all right. Bad news. That's really bad news. Bad news for everyone. He, if he's healthy, forget it. Uh, the only, and as we said was the same, it's very similar with Sexton, like what will they do?
00:17:43
Speaker
if DuPont and Intimac go down. And I think Jelly Bear is out now too. I think he did me. You know, we know Astoy is waiting right there from La Rochelle. So you hope you see him. You have Louis Carbonell, if you really want to call on him. I think I would go Astoy personally. Just probably a little bit more upside.
00:18:08
Speaker
with them. Yeah. I guess we'll see what, when they need in the, uh, the World Cup squad, right. Or at least even the, the, um, the next, you know, crap match cycle. Um, um, we'll see how they're, how they're going to play that. Right. Yeah. You know, Luku.
00:18:25
Speaker
for nine. You know, we got, we got, they got to find, they got to jaminate play 10. I know. I know you were almost in Germany. I think both, both of them thrown into the 10 shirt before, but I'm just not sure how awesome that's going to be. You know, maybe in a pinch, maybe in a pinch, just, just cause Ramas is also so good at pullback. It's like, uh, how do you pull him off that shirt right now? Yeah. And there's, well, for sure it's back there. Like you said, jaminate in,
00:18:54
Speaker
we've not seen Anthony Boutier for a long time either. And still, there's a name. Yeah. So it's, yeah, they, they are spoiled for choice there.
England vs. Ireland match critique
00:19:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be a fun run in to say the least. And then let's go to the party. The party was on in Dublin. Yeah.
00:19:23
Speaker
And England, I guess, just to decline the invite. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man. Unacceptable to go to the only kick for penalties. Like they didn't even try to score a try until the 70th minute. And, you know, going in like I. The Feral right off the bat, seven minutes in, you're kicking, kicking for post, and it's just like why?
00:19:51
Speaker
You know, you get all this way. Go for the corner and again.
00:19:59
Speaker
Just yeah, it's it's it's weak. It's like kind of cowardly. And like England's best for traditionally, I should say, I know it's just over the last couple of years, their best attacking platform is the line out. They scored like the vast majority of their tries off the line out. And they think Ireland have just given you a special line out deep inside the twenty two. You should want that. Like you should be licking your chops for that. And instead they're like, yeah, points.
00:20:29
Speaker
And fuck, it didn't really do them much good. Especially after the second one, when basically Ireland turned around and kicked another penalty. So it was like, OK, you did all that work to get into position to score. And then they essentially erased it in a few minutes because they're playing in your end again. That calculation has not made its way towards the England camp yet. Right.
00:20:59
Speaker
I wonder, would you say that we really saw, and I know attack takes a while, but would you really say that we saw any glimpse of Nick Evans attack? No, we saw it like the first two games.
00:21:13
Speaker
Yeah, that was about it. And then they just buttoned it right back up. And maybe that's maybe that's tactical. Maybe they realized they weren't going to win the maybe it was kind of a little bit of an Andy Jones mind games thing to say, OK, we kind of got a glimpse of what we can do. Let's just kind of put that away and we'll you know, we're not going to win this tournament. So let's just kind of see, you know, like. Work on some some, you know, then we did see some open attack, but
00:21:44
Speaker
it wasn't as, you know, intentionally open. There was still a lot more of a, you know, going into a shell and maybe that was again, you know, they've, they've seen what Ireland and France do when they're really going guns blazing now, you know, for the world cup again. What was it that, let me see if I can go back to the stats that I texted you the other day. Oh yeah. That's accessible. Um, it was, uh, no, it was,
00:22:13
Speaker
Was it before the MLR match? Yeah. Damn it. We texted a lot about the free jacks. We did. But it was between, no, it was, it was, no, it was later. It was this week. There we go. Henry Slade played four matches at 13 and Marchant started one.
00:22:42
Speaker
Slade played 278 minutes, had 24 carries, 108 meters, and only broke one tackle, had 16 tackles and eight missed tackles. Right. That's 16 tackles in four games and eight missed tackle. First off, that's, you know, two for one. That's not, that's not good. 66% tackle rate. No, two thirds. That's not good. One broken tackle and 24 carries. What are you doing?
00:23:13
Speaker
You know, in only 108 meters in that, okay. So then we look at Joe Marchant. 76 minutes played, six carries, 58 meters. So more than half of Slade's total in four matches. He broke two tackles, made six and missed one. Like, why is he not your outside center? Right.
00:23:36
Speaker
Right there. That's right. Fucking there. Or just so I'm not late. He was he was bad. Like I saw people, you know, doing the evaluation and it's like, yes, I saw I saw Slade make a. Make a kind of a.
00:23:53
Speaker
the dramatic tackle at one point. And then I saw him make a, I guess a nice hard run at one point. And it's like, but that's once do that. Like if you're doing that, you know, six or seven times a match as a 13 each of those. Yes. That's what I want to see. I don't know if you just do it once and then you don't show up. What the fuck have you been doing?
00:24:15
Speaker
Yeah, I just don't think he offers anything on either side of the ball right now, which is a huge problem. Like, yeah. OK, he attacks well and his defense is a little man. All right, you live with it. Or fucking hell, is he a great defender? Right. Lacking an attack, see Chris Harris. Right. I don't think he does either thing at a high level at the moment, and you need something in that shirt.
00:24:39
Speaker
one way or the other. Which 13 in this tournament would you take? Would you take Slade over? Or yeah, take Slade over. All of them. Like I would not take him over anyone. Like give me literally any 13 or 13 capable player over him. And I realized that
00:25:04
Speaker
Yeah, I just don't get it feel just to kick for a touch like Jesus Christ. What is yeah, you don't right? You don't need that. That's what do you need that when you're kicking for points anytime? You're close like no joke, right? What does it matter?
00:25:17
Speaker
So yeah, and also just to get past it to me, that's not a red card. It's not a tackle situation. It's a broken play. Two guys going for a loose ball. At the very least, you know, you know, he tried to make the the responsible. He tried to do the responsible thing and get out of the way once he realized he was coming in second. And to me, you can't issue
00:25:42
Speaker
Cards and this is and this this goes for the the highballs too. I fucking it annoys me to no end when you see two players going for a highball.
00:25:52
Speaker
And the guy who gets there second gets carded. It's like, no, they both have a right to go for the ball. Right. They thought it was a realistic chance, which is definitely something that needs to be considered. Exactly. And that's really what I'm saying. Like, Seward had a realistic chance to gather that ball. And it was a knock on anyway. So it's not like Keenan was going to go and run. There's nothing to run on. So he's not trying to make a tackle at that point. It's like, you're clear and obvious, fumble forward, thrown pass forward, whatever the fuck it was.
00:26:21
Speaker
there was no tackle contest to be made. Like if he smashes and if he smashes, I saw somebody say like, oh, just smash him without the ball, you know, and that's, that's, that's actually safer. And it's like, first off, it's not safe for him. Second off, that's a red card fucking anyway. Like what the fuck? Like, no, it was, it was a, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It has been rescinded. Yes. Right. At least so.
00:26:50
Speaker
But it didn't affect the outcome. Piper was a mess anyway, so. He was. He was shit. Shocker of the day. Yes. That's one thing I definitely don't like. South Africa is the referee. They're terrible. Yeah. And, you know, people, I did see a little thing pointed out about, I think it was Bundy maybe, he came clamoring into
00:27:13
Speaker
I don't know who Willis maybe or Ludlum on, you know, for a shoulder and was missed both by Pepper and the TMO, which is not awesome. Right in front of them too. Right. It's almost like he just chose to ignore it. It's like, come on, man. Not good. They're terrible referees. Why they're at our World Rugby International level, I have no idea.
00:27:32
Speaker
No, I think each of these matches had some pretty shit refs. So. Oh, yeah, there was they they all struggled. All three of them. Not good. I felt like at one point or another. And I and two of them I like. So too bad. Yeah. And then Ireland were on the field, too. They were they were actually quite excellent. No, they're so fucking good. Never. Never. Anyway, here's a really terrifying thought. Ireland have two of the best helpers in the world. Yeah.
00:28:02
Speaker
And that should scare a lot of people because these aren't just like, okay, they're going to throw the ball in, they're going to scrum, and as we established last week, don't fucking scrum anyway. They're going to throw the ball in, and they're going to scrum, and they'll tack when that's it. No, no, no. These guys have the next level where they are absolute threats with ball in hand in open play, the two of them.
00:28:28
Speaker
The really wild thing is, I think she had passed Kelleher in this tournament. He absolutely did. And I was like, oh my God, that's so scary. This is like Aiken 2 back when Taylor and Coles were both in their prime and on top of their game, it's not dissimilar.
00:28:47
Speaker
No, it's not. They don't quite have the all they do. Actually, she and certainly he's he has that flanker type like I'm watching right now. Speaking of his first try. Yeah, so like it's it's not.
00:29:06
Speaker
But yeah, they're that level. And that's scary. I thought it was kind of funny that you have Bandiaki and Manutulagi going against each other because it's like, oh shit, this is straight out of like
00:29:24
Speaker
What like 2008. Let's go. Right. Right. 2018. Yeah, I go. Like, let's fucking go boys. Like, let's just bash each other. It's like neither of them are at their peak. No, but it's kind of the similar players. So, you know, it was one of those like if
00:29:42
Speaker
This wasn't even the fully fit Ireland like Henshaw, you know, Henshaw and Ringrose are your centers. Fuck that. Yeah, they would have been in so much more trouble. Right.
00:29:56
Speaker
I still think, I still think their best back row involves Omani off the bench. I do too. And I think he has his place to start sometimes. Yeah. But yes, it should be Doris Conan and Brandon Fleer in the back row. They're all so fucking good. That's pretty wild. And then you bring.
00:30:15
Speaker
You know, more got in for, you know, 20, 25 minutes. It's not that's going to be. Well, it's going to be bad news. Right. And there's one guy that probably doesn't get as much credit as he should. And it seems Ryan and he's had some bad years where he looked really out of form and just was doing the bullshit and the shit housing. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. How many guys get hurt? That were second row partner to Ian Henderson, Tyburn and top operators, both of them. Yeah.
00:30:45
Speaker
You know, you're like, you're this, you know, you know, runny nose pup in Baird coming along and he's just like, all right, come here, come here, kid. I'm just going to wipe that off for you. All right. Go that way. Go. You know, he's, he's just dragging the kid around and making it happen. And yeah, I.
00:31:02
Speaker
to me he's gotten into that world-class level again and if he can do this into the fall then how long ago was it that we were talking to each other about when when Ireland dropped Devin Toner and we were like who the hell do they have at Locke anymore
00:31:20
Speaker
That was not that long ago. No, it wasn't. And Ryan had had his kind of vault to the front and then he kind of got figured out and then he obviously made him take a step back. So now I think he's back to, all right, I've readjusted and those are the ones that stay for the long time and that end up being a wild class. The ones that can say, all right, you guys have adjusted to me. I'm going to adjust back to you. And now we're going to play this fun game of which one am I going to do?
00:31:46
Speaker
So, uh, credit to him. That's huge for them. It really is. So I give him, I give him a lot of credit and obviously Andy Farrell is England's nightmare right now. Cause you know, he didn't want to work for the guy that they had. Yeah. And I don't blame him and I didn't blame him either. And you know, he's one of the better coaches that are national level right now. I don't think there's any question about it. And at this point.
00:32:15
Speaker
you can erase, almost erase, not completely, almost erase Joe Schmidt from Ireland's, you know, books at this point in terms of what's left from his, from his coaching. Maybe there's a few things that are left that he did well, but this is Andy Farrell at this point. Yeah. And that's, I think hope, you know, that's what, that's what England needed. They, you know, that he was there, was there Joe Schmidt. Um, he got into a world cup final, but,
00:32:44
Speaker
He didn't win it. He got him there. And then he ran him into the ground right afterwards. It's not like what you have done for me. It's what you can do for me. And right now, all he could do is run England into the ground. Yeah, good on an island for a rise into the occasion. Yeah, give him loads of credit.
00:33:08
Speaker
Ireland, Grand Slam. And, you know, this, if this was the last World Cup cycle, they peaked too early. Yeah.
Ireland's Grand Slam victory
00:33:19
Speaker
Now, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if this was too early, but this seems better. Right. In any case. Who's, who's, um, yeah, who's really going to like, is so we, and we had, uh, in other international news, we had, um,
00:33:38
Speaker
Razor, finally, finally, the fucking the Boston Rachel of rugby. Well, there, won't they? They finally did. You know, now now Fauzi's there like, OK, well, I'm, you know, literally a lame duck. And I don't know that how much commander respect he has in the locker room at this point or has had recently based on how they've been playing. You know, that's one out of the way. Australia's switch coaches and who the fuck knows what they're bringing?
00:34:08
Speaker
Um, but I know they're in the other, they're, they wouldn't be on the same side of the bracket, but still like they're in the heads of every Northern hemisphere squad. It's really up to like, maybe like Argentina or even South Africa. Um, I think otherwise talk, I don't see anyway. If I was South Africa, I'd leave, you know, in charge right now. Wouldn't bother with Razzie.
00:34:35
Speaker
Razzie's cause more shit than he's worth at this point. Yeah. Like, well, they kind of like that though. Cause it's not, they don't have to deal with the shit. It's like they're shitting on everyone else. So they're having fun with it, but I don't know that it's gonna. Yeah. But it wasn't productive in terms of their team. They're not getting better. No, they weren't getting better with him. They were actually getting worse. Yeah. So I would, I would go with, I would go with Jack and just let it be and let him do his thing. And, um,
00:35:04
Speaker
let him have full control. So we don't have to worry about, you have to worry about the bullshit with Razzie. You don't have to have that in your head. And you don't have Razzie can tweet whatever the fuck he wants from, um, from his couch. And then it would, it might actually be funny. That's true. That'd be, that'd be nice. All right. So let's go to the other hemisphere.
Hurricanes vs. Waratahs recap
00:35:30
Speaker
Super rugby. Start with,
00:35:34
Speaker
hurricanes and war toss and all right. Um, so the last thing to hollow doesn't really, you know, anything, right? Well, I mean, productivity wise, maybe it did maybe because, uh, but two trials and the hollow shit. I was like, Oh, there's no Rayasi. Oh, okay. The, then the hollow guys in there. Let's see how this goes. Yeah, it went well.
00:36:03
Speaker
It did. It went really well. The results were positive. I took the survey. It was, and again, it's an, and I want to talk a little bit about the workhouse too, because I didn't think they played that as poorly as the scoreline reflects. No, they didn't. Brett Cameron seems to be just a nice calm operator in that 10 shirt and letting basically everybody else do the job.
00:36:31
Speaker
You know, and that's not saying that, you know, he can't, but what I think he's figuring out is that he can carry a little bit, but then he's got some big time talent that's outside of him that they can do the damage. Let them get it done. Morby's on fire right now. Certainly. Yeah, we saw it. We saw in the hollow. Like Julian Sevilla is disappearing. Yes. Like completely disappearing. And he's not bad. No, he's just.
00:37:00
Speaker
it like well the thing is they don't like they're spinning it one way and it's you know everybody out there like proctor or morby or jordy even breaking the line and running with it and it's like well okay they go that way and and by the time then then they come back the other way and it's somebody else breaking before it can get to savia like he's just getting
00:37:24
Speaker
He's getting lost in the wash because the ball's just not getting to him, but that's because everyone else is just kicking that much ass. So, yeah. Uh, Flanders played really well. That boot through was delicious. Oh man. Yeah. And, and regard like, I'm not sure I didn't have this on my fricking bingo board by any means, man, this kid's playing well this year. I don't know. I don't know who this TJ fellow is, but camera guards playing really fucking well right now. I, you gotta say, um,
00:37:54
Speaker
Not mad about it. No, and the best part, like it's almost like better because you don't have to worry about, you know, um, with him, you don't have to worry about all black rest. You can just play. He's your guy. I think at this point, it'll be, I mean, it'll be, um,
00:38:12
Speaker
It'll be booth every once in a while. Right. And then I know they have a couple other young pups that they'll throw in there a little bit. Right. But like he's, he's your, when, when you're, when you're going full guns, you've come with regard. Yep. I agree. And on the other side, um, I don't think the toss played as poorly as the scoreline reflects.
00:38:32
Speaker
which is really unfortunate. I think they just let it go in the wrong spot. Obviously I still don't know what the fuck it's doing on any, any of these teams. Like, Oh, stop pretending he's an international quality player. Like, I have no time for him. None. Um, I thought Ben Donaldson played well on that 10 shirt. Yeah. Just,
00:38:55
Speaker
They ran to a team that's still that is really good at attack right now and right, you know, they couldn't keep up even with like, okay, how good is Langie Gleason? Phenomenal I don't I don't know how you keep him out of the Wallabies back row. He's so and he's fast. Yeah, I mean, there's so there. Okay, so we've talked about Ireland's
00:39:15
Speaker
depth. Previously, Australia's got some serious fucking depth. It's getting silly at this point. He is a walking card. Right. And the DOLO had a sweet try for a very NIDOLO try.
00:39:33
Speaker
Fucking total brain fire by the guys. Oh, what are you doing? Okay. Yep. All right. He's, he's not getting stopped. So he's too, he's too experienced at that too. He's like, right. He knows what he's doing. He's just like, Oh, okay. This is what I was going to go. Oh, thank you. Look at that. Yeah. And Jorgensen, uh, the other try score who, um, yeah, as you said, like he might be, might be a real thing. Yeah.
00:40:02
Speaker
give them a little bit more time, but you know, it's, it's going to be a hit again, as I suggested with Ryan, you know, you, you get, you, you come on, you know, you, you, you have a good run and then teams kind of figure you out and your job as a professional. And if you want to be that world-class operator, or at least that high-end operator, you need to adjust back. So we'll see what happens with him. But right now here, nobody's adjusted to him yet. So he's still putting the dots down.
00:40:33
Speaker
And your fellas, Chiefs and Rebels. I mean, they got a little loose at the end, but. Yeah, there was a little bit of a garbage. For the most part, pretty much full steam ahead for the Chiefs for the majority of the match. Yep. Not much. Yeah. That was the last drive. That was it. That really didn't need to be on there. But, you know, other than that, pretty good. Yeah. But at that point, they're just having fun playing some footy. So, yeah, I think so.
00:41:05
Speaker
Six tries. God damn. Right. Mackabelle is your only centered or your only back to not score. Right. Dude, what about me? This is just an excellent fucking team. I don't know what to say. Did Weber get a lot dropped late from this match? Did I miss that?
00:41:30
Speaker
No, Radama was scheduled to start. Was that the start? From the beginning. Yeah, because I do that because I signed him because he was starting and I'm like, oh, I'll take that. My head was probably upside down. So what else are you going to do? Yeah, like the back three just seemed to be everybody like everybody have fun. Like, here you go. I don't care who it is. Just back three. Go ahead. Have a blast, guys.
00:41:55
Speaker
They've been throwing everybody in there and it just really hasn't changed the results. No. Same thing. Well, they're all like, and the amazing thing actually is that they are they're all fantastic in attack. The defense has been rock fucking solid when they need it. Again, again, there was a little bit of garbage time.
00:42:17
Speaker
I can't, the chief scored like a whole bunch of tries basically right off the bat. And right in the middle, yeah, that it was just like, yeah, this is, this game's over. And then, you know, there were a couple of tries each way late or, you know, second half ish, but yeah, this was, they cruised, but when they really needed that defense out there, it worked really well. So I'm impressed. Cause that was like their biggest problem.
00:42:44
Speaker
Um, the last couple of years was like, if they went back and forth, it was like, okay, their attack is great, but their defense is. And then I think it was kind of last year-ish, they were kind of meh both ways at times. Now it's like, no, their attack has been on fucking fire and their defense has been just shut it down when they want it to be. That's just, this is a scary team.
00:43:07
Speaker
They seem to have something going on over there. I'm just enjoying it. It's certainly less stressful to watch than some of the other teams I follow. I can vouch for that one. I can vouch for that one, sure. Great stuff. Let's go to the big one over in Opera. This was a doozy. You can't help but think,
00:43:34
Speaker
That one period where the blues were down significantly in terms of numbers on the field was the thing that cost them. Yeah. When you, when you lose any players for any length of time against the Crusaders, it's not going to go well. No. Then you're playing with, you know, two less pitch at once. It's, it's really.
00:43:57
Speaker
really makes it hard. And that was when the Crusaders hit their ascendancy too. It really was. And that, yeah, because they had what, two tries in that period. Where was it? Who got sent off? It was when Lei got sent to the bin. Oh, no, they didn't. They had two players off because it was... Because of the front row.
00:44:18
Speaker
He has the front row. Yep. Because Hodgerman had to come off early. So Le was the replacement and then Le got carded. So that, that, yeah, so it was the, that was the test. You scored in that time. And then. So again. So twice, 40 to 46 minute again. Yeah. Before that. So we scored twice in that, in that period. Yeah. For there. I see does. And that was it. Good. Yeah. He's good. He don't give him space. And that was way too much space to give him. Yeah. And there was that.
00:44:49
Speaker
So if you're an all black selector, I don't know how you keep Holocaust Institute to out of the back row.
All Blacks selection challenges
00:44:59
Speaker
No, I don't think about would you? Good luck. I've no idea. I don't know because he's been too bloody good and he's just tearing everyone through. He's obviously out to make a point.
00:45:13
Speaker
Listen, I need to be in any team that you pick going forward that's playing a match of value. That's just how it is. So make it a point clearly. And it's not like they don't have options either. So it's going to be hard, but it's hard to sit in right now. And, you know, we've discussed Sam Kane and, you know, it's hard to bench your captain, but
00:45:40
Speaker
Yeah, they need to know he's not maybe yeah, the besides that was that's a different conversation for a different day. And hey, it's this is the World Cup we're talking about you gotta just do what's necessary.
00:45:57
Speaker
even if it's not like the prettiest thing. All right. You're, you're benching Sam Kane. Right. Love it. Exactly. Like teams are doing more dramatic things. They're sacking their coaches ahead of it. It's okay. If you want to sack the captain because he's not up to standard. Right. Bottom line. We know that, and it's been documented at least at this point that yeah, he's, he's not the player he was three years, three years ago because of his neck.
00:46:23
Speaker
Yeah, you can't go in there and pillage that ball and and rummage around because he's got any concerns. And he was never much in attack anyway. So now he's kind of purely a tackler and that's not any more than that. No. Also, I guess we would be remiss if we didn't mention that. Yeah, Reese, several Reese's out for the year.
00:46:44
Speaker
Is he? I know that. Looks like it. He had a knee injury in this match. So that, um, Oh, looks like it will end his season. I don't wish poorly upon anybody, but when you're a shithead, you're a shithead. That's just how it is. Um,
00:47:00
Speaker
Yeah. Was there bum in this match? There was bum in one of the matches this week. It was close. There was close. I remember. I remember being like, Oh, okay. We got somebody's losing shorts here. Plumbers bum. I don't think it was this match. It wasn't quite there, but anywho. Yeah. Yeah. And cause, cause the Crusaders need another good center. Dallas McLeod's just been playing out of his mind right now. Certainly putting his hand up. Yeah.
00:47:27
Speaker
Good luck when they have everybody healthy. Yeah. Good. You, him and or really. Yeah. Have fun making decisions there. Yeah. Well now you don't need to find a new coup to drop into 13 now. Yeah. You got options now. Unquestionably. Uh, let's jump over to thinking of pantsings.
Brumbies' dominance over Moana Pasifika
00:47:52
Speaker
GIO.
00:47:54
Speaker
Yeah. You know, this wasn't as bad until the last, what, 20 minutes. And then, yes, they were just totally smoked and like, sometimes that happens. You know, this is still a new, new ish team. So it comes to a point where we're like, ah, we can't keep up with this. We're, we're done. We're smoked. You know, O'Donnell got over deeper scene. He got over fricking.
00:48:20
Speaker
I think was it two or mere or mere head smear head had to yeah it was yeah one and both of them were second second half 46 and then six but it was that 65th minute yeah but that late late match window was the one I was like oh man these guys are just smoked and yeah they're they're they were fine when they got the ball no question um
00:48:42
Speaker
miracle. Like, Oh my God. Yeah. I think that whole run just gassed him for the rest of the game, but he came off at half. Um, we came back on. You did. Um, it might've been, he came off a little after had like a 41st minute. That makes sense. But anyway, um, but yeah.
00:49:05
Speaker
Yeah, it's a good team. It's a fun team to watch. Did you see the did you watch any of the halftime stuff? No, I didn't. I know it was the kids week, which is not a really cool stuff. I watched a bunch of the half times because it was it was super cute. The kids at halftime of this one, one of them said that what was it? They were talking about miracles run and said that speech is astonishing. And then and I thought it was impressive. And then the hosts were like, that's too many syllables for you with that.
00:49:35
Speaker
He's like, you're ready to go. And then he also said, you've already hit progress. And then he said that he wears a he was wearing headgear to hide his extensions.
00:49:49
Speaker
Oh man. Yeah. All right. They're ready to go. That's funny. That's great. I love it. Hilarious. So a whole, a whole lot of Brumby's, especially in that second half of the, of the, after the interval, it was, um, but yeah, it's, it's great to see Moana the way they attack when they have the ball.
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really liking Danny Tawala. I'm really mad that you had that you stole him from me. Yeah. Like, because I just I like him as a as a player. No, I do, too. I thought he looked great. I thought he and Amua look great. Despite the yellow card, Tabata. And I was still a threat. He just didn't have a whole lot to do this game because everybody else was trying to do it. Right. Have you really showed up? I thought pretty well to like that. Yeah, good stuff. There's a lot of good stuff.
00:50:41
Speaker
on Pacifica, but Brumby's were just ridiculous top outfit. There's no doubt. Yeah. No doubt about that. They haven't lost us here. I don't believe so. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Let's go to, they have not, they have the chiefs and the Brumby's chiefs and Brumby's the only, um, four and O teams that the chiefs have, uh, all four bonus points and probably only have two, two, I think. Yeah. I don't think they got theirs against the blue number one. So.
00:51:10
Speaker
That hurt. Let's go to Invercargill. They changed venues for this one to give more people a shot scene professional rugby, which is hard to hounders. Yeah. I mean, if you could call Highland is forced professional rugby. Oh man. The first, you're right. The first part of this was just not pretty at all.
00:51:36
Speaker
I didn't see. I'm actually, I have it on now. Um, but 46 minute and it's 15, 18. It's not, this is not, that's not super rugby. That's like a, that's like a quarter mark score, not 46 minutes. Right. No, they, they do. I think both teams were a little bit conservative to start, especially the Highlanders. They're like almost playing to not lose.
00:52:01
Speaker
Well, the Highlanders, they, they took, so we found out, you know, they took forever to name their team and they're doing again this week. They are just literally like their mass unit. They, they are struggling to find, they were struggling to find like enough to put together a side. Um, but I think they have like 17 guys on the shelf or something. It's, it's, it's bad. It's a lot. It really is.
00:52:26
Speaker
Tis it is it's quite a it's quite a laundry list of bodies that are on the shelf and Frizzell came out. He dropped early before before the match. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so he's down for the count and it is. Oh, if he's not available for selection for the All Blacks, that would be a shame.
00:52:46
Speaker
wouldn't adjust. If they, if they had, I think, you know, naturally had to drop Reese and, and Frizzell that that would be interesting. I would not be mad. Right. Personally. That's just me. Um, you know, I, we saw, I, I like a lot of what Sam Gilbert's doing. Yup. I just don't know.
00:53:18
Speaker
It's not, I don't think it's going to be enough to get to break into that all black factory. That's the problem. And I know that we just talked about Reese going down, but there's still a long line back there. So right. And right now to lay is putting his hand up to like, he'll be in there at this point. I mean, at this point, almost don't you like, you got to think about the Bowdoin's back at 15. You know, if they're putting out their best play, especially without Will Jordan in the mix, if he's, if he's.
00:53:46
Speaker
really out for a significant time. I hope that's much longer, but I know it's going to be a bit longer. Right. I don't know how much longer. So, um, but like, if that's, you know, if it just keeps lingering. Yeah. It seems to just not go away at this moment, which is, is a scary thing as a player. So it's like, Oh.
00:54:06
Speaker
You know, you can't really take that for granted. And you got to assume he's not going to be better until he's better, which right. It does. And yeah, that but that, you know, Gilbert's just in a in a shit situation right now with that, because it's like, yeah, it's like rugby. He is. He's playing excellent rugby. And it's just, you know, sad that it's for kind of a team that's kind of shit right now.
00:54:35
Speaker
They were, they were, they were good enough. And, um, they were interviewing Tom Robertson on the sideline and he's like, yeah, we just want to be the first team that scores twice in a row.
Highlanders vs. Force competition
00:54:45
Speaker
And I was like, yeah, the way that match went in the second half, that's kind of how it was. It was ping pong, um, back and forth. And the, the team that scored twice in a row first one, unfortunately for Tom Robertson, it was not that it was on the forest. It was the Islanders. Um, they got, they got into them first and that was the end. And, uh,
00:55:05
Speaker
I feel like this will be another good test and not that he doesn't need anymore.
00:55:13
Speaker
for Aaron Smith and his leadership ability, because this is obviously a team that he's going to have to kind of drag along as that, especially as that nine. And we know what an influential nine Aaron Smith can be. Yep. And he's, yeah, I was talking about James Ryan wiping the nose of a pup. Like Aaron Smith's just going to have a box of Kleenex. Kleenex everybody's face off, you know, it's just how it ends. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of deprecating. Yep. Yep. Agreed. So, uh,
00:55:45
Speaker
He'll, he'll come through good with it. I believe it's, you know, just whether or not the kids want to listen to different stories sometimes. Um, but yeah, I think he'll come through, go with it. And unfortunately they're not going to get any better until they get healthier. Good luck. Good luck. Everybody at, um, more sidebar. Have fun. Yeah.
Reds vs. Drua close match
00:56:05
Speaker
Let's go to Brizzy.
00:56:08
Speaker
Reds and Drua. This is a hell of a match. Yeah. This was another unexpected squeaky bum time. Yeah. Oh, we have squeaky bum time here, guys. Hold on. Yeah, you kind of look at wait. Wait, is it? Is this? It is.
00:56:25
Speaker
Where did this come from? Yeah, no kidding. I mean, friggin, I'm not sure the rest do. They were going to have to hit that last penalty to hold on. Right. Because, yeah, Revovo gets over and then Massey right afterwards. It's like, all right, game, game on. Like, here we go. And, um, yeah, the wild thing about this, this whole.
00:56:47
Speaker
this whole team for the Drua. So anybody that wears 20 to 23 as along with anybody that wears six on upwards can go from anywhere. You know, that is the wild thing to think about with this team. And we even saw a little bit with Moana a little bit as well. And this is a team that's just one of those ones. They get the ball in their hand and they could go for the long run.
00:57:17
Speaker
if given the chance and they can all take it the distance, which is makes it obviously so much fun to watch. But like, also other teams just you can't have your head up your ass for longer than a second because you will get burned. And you need to make sure your scramble defenses is solid because if they just because they get behind you, you make your one on one tackle. They're offloading that shit.
00:57:38
Speaker
Like this is not a I'm taking this to the tackle and we'll recycle the ball kind of know this is keep all alive We're gonna you know, put it in that if we get behind your defense, we're gonna put it in the tri-zone
00:57:52
Speaker
And I, you know, I, the reds did a good job with that. You know, you'd expect them to, they're, they're always solid defensively. Um, yeah, I think that was really what's that. Well, Thor would not let them be that other one. Oh, absolutely not. And that's, you know, that to me was the difference in the match. Um, the reds did what they needed to do an attack just to outscore them. And then they also were able to keep Fiji out when they really needed to. Hmm.
00:58:19
Speaker
You know, this last, the last nine minutes were not fun. I'm sure the, uh, no, not in that coaching box by any means whatsoever. No, no, no, no. I'm sure Thorn was ready to throw things. If we didn't throw them, um, kids at home.
00:58:35
Speaker
That is not how you throw an offload like Harry Wilson did. It doesn't usually work out that well where a teammate happens to be screaming in and the bounce goes just right. Just keep that in mind. Yeah. So you got lucky. It's probably an understatement, but it worked. So, okay. Um, sometimes a little bit of luck and means opportunity and, uh,
00:58:57
Speaker
Hard work meeting up, but damn, that was like, I was like, oh no, he's totally a ball of it. And somehow, someway Josh Fluke was just like, ooh, hey, look at that. Got a ball, got it over. Yeah. That's not usually how it goes, right?
00:59:12
Speaker
Fluke is really fucking good. Yes, by the way. Yes, he's good. He's he's really coming into it. And I love and I love seeing it. You'll have seen a player just kind of come into their own and step up and perform well. So and he's been around for a little while. He's a favorite of thorns and just just starting to really find his feet and find his position, too. We talked about finding a good position for him. Defensive wing, if need be, but 13 is probably his home.
00:59:40
Speaker
Right. Gives them some nice options at midfield, I'd say. I also saw a thing on James O'Connor where he's apparently, he's good, he's really happy where he is, and he's looking forward to actually taking... This is what you... I fucking love James O'Connor, by the way. I don't know if I've ever mentioned that. But he's like, no, I want to make sure
01:00:05
Speaker
that Tom line is ready. So I'm going to make sure, you know, I'm going to take that step back and let him start. Like, you know, he's not full of ego. Like I'm the 10. I start every match. It's like, no, he's not anymore. He's right. Exactly. Exactly. He's been there. And I guess, you know, he wants to make sure Tom doesn't turn to him when he comes to him. So it's like, no, I need to make sure while I'm here, while I'm, you know, it's so big while you're still there to be able to shape the next generation of top
01:00:35
Speaker
Yeah, so I have three players. Yeah, absolutely and we've heard and we talked about I think we talked about a little bit last year with a little CEO and You know, he's a young up-and-coming ten. Obviously, he's very very talented and maybe their best ten if he's on his game And little CEO was even talking about on the satellite he's like, yeah I've had some great help with Lilliana was when he was crediting at the time because Lilliana obviously is a former Brumby and
01:01:03
Speaker
But these players that have been through the dumb things and realized they did the dumb things to come around and just have the awareness that, okay, I was really fucking stupid when I was your age, so here's what you're not going to do, because that's what I did. It only does good to the next generation.
01:01:32
Speaker
You don't want someone like James O'Connor necessarily to have to come through your system in order for the young players to not become full of ego. But when it does, and you have somebody that's willing to grow up and be an adult and be a mentor to these young fellows, one, you love it, and two, you have to just grab it with both hands and take that opportunity to use it for all it's worth. Yeah.
01:02:02
Speaker
So good on O'Connor.
Freejacks fanbase and travel
01:02:05
Speaker
He's a good lad. You want to talk about. The Quincy South again. Well, yeah, the fucking. Rejax fans took over that I saw more. Hoodies and just general paraphernalia for that team in Malden then.
01:02:29
Speaker
I saw for New York. And that team in Malden, for those who don't understand, being a local rugby club associated with the freejacks. None of which anybody likes, except for the few and far between. But yeah, like holy shit, they traveled. It's a day trip for us, so yeah, not a big deal.
01:02:53
Speaker
really took the place over. And really, as long as the free jacks could just keep 15 on the pitch. Yeah, they would be doing. I mean, they would be doing better, not that they're doing poorly as it is, but they are they're controlling matches. When when it's 15 for them anyway, it doesn't matter how many of the team have know that New York 80 card. So right. That was unhelpful for them. It was.
01:03:26
Speaker
I, I don't want to question the value of walks last year, but Patras has been excellent. Number one, I didn't think anybody would disagree. Having a true 10 wearing that shirt is probably more valuable than what walks did only because
01:03:47
Speaker
it gives the people that are 50, that are actually 15s a chance to play as a 15. And, you know, we got away with it because of the level that we're at. Yeah. I like, I like truly a good player, but yeah. Patras has been, quietly doing his job excellently. Yeah. I, I, I'm excited about what we have because we still have,
01:04:11
Speaker
So we have Spencer. So our midfield is I'm gushing over this midfield every fucking time. We have Spencer Jones. We have Wayne Vanderbank. We have Ben LeSage. And then LaRouba Lawn still hurts. So there's that whole thing. And Vanderbank's try was excellent where he just got to... And this is after the free jacks got held up, what, three times? Yeah, a couple of times I was like, oh man, this is going to be bad. It was bad. You can't get this down.
01:04:36
Speaker
And then Vanderbank gets tackled just for the land and just a little reach. Who the hell was standing on the line for New York that just watched him do that? Yeah, just stood there right over him. It was like, oh, everyone a drink, dude, like game, shame, shame, shame. Yeah, I.
01:04:57
Speaker
Ed Fido's over Ed number one. He was not good this match. I did. Oh, and we got it. I got to mention Patras cutting Ed Fido in half second. He was an asshole Fido too. So I loved seeing he had, he had what could have been a break. And Patras just put him down. Love it. Like there was no breaking that tackle. It was excellent. Right. You know, waist high, literally cut him in half. Well, not literally, but you know, the, the fold folded him over. Um, put him down.
01:05:26
Speaker
You're not, you're not breaking that tackle. Yeah. Fiddo's most like what that was to me was as someone who.
01:05:37
Speaker
you know, when it was a talented, young rugby player at one point, I knew how old people, the old heads would fuck with me just to keep me from doing the things I was good at doing. And that's what I saw Fido doing. He was doing shit just to make, to throw others off their game so that they would play at his level rather than be more talented than him. And that's kind of sad. It's sad to see, but at the same time, it's also a good old mannery, so I can't really,
01:06:06
Speaker
I can't knock it either. But at the same time, like, he's not as he's doing it now because he has to he's not doing it because he, you know, I think the last couple years, he's been, well, last year, he was excellent. And did some of that shit. Now he's kind of meh and still doing that shit. Now it doesn't have to all blast album. Yeah. And everybody knows who he is in the league now. So right. That's the other thing. So and
01:06:33
Speaker
Oh, Keith and Andrew Quatren outplayed when Luski and Fawcett. I would, I don't know if there's a lot of people that would argue that I'm not a huge Dylan Fawcett fan, by the way. I know. I think I made that pretty clear. Mother Farrah is much better. Um,
01:06:54
Speaker
So that, yeah, there's, there's that whole thing. But yeah, I thought cold Keith had an outstanding game. And that was his 50th by the way. So good on him. Could do with a, without the fucking lucid that we have, at least we got him off earlier. Yeah. He didn't do too much in the way of damage.
01:07:11
Speaker
Nope. Yeah, he came off early. It was on early, which was nice to see. Let's see more of that. Yeah, please, please. And thank you. Anyway, so there are the free jacks are back at home this weekend. Anyway, that wants to come say hi to us. We're in section seven.
01:07:27
Speaker
um we'll be the ones in plaid along with everyone else along with yeah we'll sit down as much as we can with the plaid festival i mean our voices were certainly seeing us now but yeah yeah we won't be as obvious on the tv this time so oops oh well yeah want to find some maybe we can find some wigs all right i need you well i need to make my sign
01:07:49
Speaker
That too. That too. Anyway, look around for the M1. We'll get out of here. So, NOLA1 again, they beat Utah, Utah. I don't know if Utah is good enough. Yeah, I don't know. That's what you were talking about before. And NOLA was at home. That's a tough road trip right there anyway. Yeah. Legion beat the pants off Atlanta in Atlanta. Although ATL are still tied for third. Yeah.
01:08:19
Speaker
Not worried about, um, no, I'm just saying for the iron, you know, for the ironworkers and they have a game in hand. I think I had that right. I think, I think you might be right. Any who, uh, oh boy, one down in down Leasburg. So I was going to have a tough year. I think not really. Yeah. And yeah, them, them and Noah duking it out for the bottom of the, for the conference. Unfortunately, it's ironworkers, Nolan and ATL are, are all tied at 10 with, but ATL has only played four matches. So.
01:08:46
Speaker
Okay, there you go. And then Hounds got their first win in their franchise history, beating a team that hasn't won one in their franchise history, unfortunately, with
Chicago Hounds' first victory
01:08:57
Speaker
Dallas. I watched the highlights of this. Yeah, wasn't bad by the jackals by any means whatsoever. They had some great moments, but they just still can't put it together.
01:09:07
Speaker
So, and their next gift is to come to Quincy. Have fun. Yay. That'll be fun. We've had some nice weather this week and it's going to get colder for the weekend for them. Just for you guys. Just for you guys. Welcome to Boston. Yeah. No shit. All right. So.
01:09:29
Speaker
If you are hopping over to the fantasy corners with us, we will see you over there. If not, we're obviously diving deep back into prem this weekend. It's crunch time. We're at the point at the end of the season. Super Rugby obviously kicking into high gear. We're now getting into the middle of the season here. So we will be previewing all the good stuff with that in terms of pick them and fantasy and all that stuff. So see you there and enjoy your rugby this weekend. And thank you very much for hanging out with us and listening to us. Have a good one. Later.