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Before and After
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A POS conversation to change the world. Fresh takes on the people that changed us.
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Brendan Fraser's Role in The Whale
00:00:12
Speaker
you seen the movie, The Whale? I haven't seen it. It's a very good drama, sad drama with the dude from Encino Man, but he plays this character that's extremely overweight. Fully Shore?
00:00:26
Speaker
No, the other guy. Brandon Frazier? Yes, sir. I knew you'd know. And he's it's probably his greatest acting role of all the time, but he's like 450 pounds and he's just like online English teacher.
00:00:40
Speaker
And he ultimately succumbs to his addiction, his food addiction.
Joking About Appearance and Rumors
00:00:45
Speaker
But I bring it up because you look just like him in this camera shot. The camera shot is the worst, huh?
00:00:53
Speaker
I look like I'm 400 pounds. It's so weird. It's like my face is the fattest too because it's like pulled back. but Or maybe I'm just fat. Maybe 30 days in Missouri got me.
00:01:05
Speaker
The whale. It's funny how little I, like everyone's like, have seen that movie? No. but But I got Encino Man and Brendan Fraser locked up in this fat head of mine.
00:01:16
Speaker
You should watch that movie. I think it's a really good one. Didn't that happen in real life to him or something, though? Like, he he had he blew up, right? No. I mean, I think he... Oh, he... Was that just for the role something? Yeah.
00:01:31
Speaker
He might have had an illness of some sort. I don't know. I don't know much about Brendan. But... I think he had some fucked up stuff happen to him. and Because he was kind starting to pop, right? And then all of a sudden he was gone and then...
00:01:44
Speaker
Well, he was more than popped. I mean, he was in the mummy and making gazillions doing those types of things. I don't know what happened. I think maybe a wreck. I don't know, dude. We'll just speculate. Let's just speculate. on let's yeah Let's agree that we should have him on.
00:01:56
Speaker
Talk about with him. Tell him we're inspired by your camera angle.
Ending the FFF Project and New Directions
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Speaker
Dude, I keep getting people talking about they love FFF. FFF is going away, boy.
00:02:10
Speaker
Man, you can't you can't just fucking settle in, huh? Always got to be moving, shaking. Why is it going away? Or did you always see it as a ah project more than a you know ah long-term thing?
00:02:25
Speaker
I think the this satirical thing, it's like if if you were in SNL and you had to like use the same format week after week after week to like inject essentially the same satire, the same type of satire, you kind of need a new angle.
00:02:41
Speaker
So that's my... It's like if they're still doing Wayne's World, like right now. right Exactly. I think that's a great, great analogy. analogy I'm popping on the 90s today, dude.
00:02:55
Speaker
Yeah, I think what I like about FFF is you can really incorporate a lot of absurd detail, some financial detail that really makes it pop. What I think is great is you always have the opportunity. If you kept doing it, you're right. Maybe you but it would just be like, all right, same thing. But there's always always going to be one or two people who have never heard it before, and they're getting there for the first time, and they're always going to think it's real, and they're going to go through that process. I'd be like, what the fuck?
00:03:21
Speaker
yeah This is someone giving financial advice and they're going to listen to it and then for a while they're going be like, okay, huh. then they have to go, wait a minute, this is ridiculous. Yeah, I got a new segment coming.
00:03:35
Speaker
Okay. That's what I wanted to get to. do you want to tease it or just let it happen? I don't even know actually, listeners. I'll just let it happen. But American Hero, had ah you know that was its last episode and then FFF is done.
00:03:49
Speaker
Hmm.
Media vs. Reality: Cultural Divides
00:03:51
Speaker
Dude, I've been up here for a month, and I wonder, I thought I would just feel this like crazy, divided, fucked up culture. I never feel it when I'm here.
00:04:02
Speaker
I never feel the, I hear it in the media. like if but like there's that's I just just took a a shift, but i um we're just we're just shooting a shit today, right, bro? I got you.
00:04:12
Speaker
I know you shifted hard. But, you know, like, I listen, I'll go back, i don't know if I've mentioned this the last couple episodes, but um' I'll go back and forth from, like, this kind of right-wing radio to the Black and as it black Information Network.
00:04:27
Speaker
And it's, you're literally, like, in two different countries. But when you listen to that shit, you you it's like the fucking walls are caving in on the country. But when just out there in it, dude, selling tables,
00:04:39
Speaker
i don't necessarily ah I don't necessarily feel like, oh, this this is like everything so bad. just like if you turn on any form of media or listen to anything, then it happens.
00:04:51
Speaker
Yeah, no, I agree. I feel the same way. And i actually, like, um I'm following the news, maybe a little more than you even. But I will look out at the leaves of changing in fall and be like, hmm, it doesn't feel like there are masked agents running around snatching people. But there are, just not in my neighborhood. But, like, I don't really know how to get – don't know what to do with – well, let me ask you this first.
Impact of Trump and Business Sentiment
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Speaker
Is the news affecting you at all? Like, the is is some of Trump's antics – actually getting to you or are you sort of like eh we've been here before fellas you mean is it affecting me like all your business the tariffs are just like im emotionally around like god this this is ridiculous or both i think more psychologically of like what's the end game here maybe or or what would this mean for my kids coming here to visit or anything like that is there any version of the antics that are happening where you're kind of like whoa
00:05:48
Speaker
Or even free speech, maybe even free speech. I do feel like... Well, first of all, I will say the climate in general feels like it's moved pretty far right, so which is you mentioned. So i do I do feel that. But I'm also in Missouri, which is pretty right state outside of St. Louis and Kansas City. So I'm not that surprised.
00:06:05
Speaker
But I do feel like... It is unprecedented where it's just like the president is like freely taking on either criticizers or enemies. You feel like they're just been going after somebody.
00:06:17
Speaker
But again, all that just see is like coming from the media, so to speak, or like are you know the people reporting it. It's not like day to day I'm in a situation where I'm like, this happened, so this affects me.
00:06:29
Speaker
Yeah. yeah i don't know. i mean He's actually saying those things. You can watch the real video but and decide for yourself. You don't have to have it filtered by CNN or whatever. But, yeah, it hasn't hit you.
00:06:42
Speaker
Tariffs aren't an issue? Not yet, but we'll see when I'm going to. We're shipping some stuff by the next few weeks, and it could be. Okay. So you're a successful five weeks over there, huh? You sold some shit. Going get a new ah new order in, buddy?
00:06:57
Speaker
I don't know. I've been going, I've been talking about it. Yeah. I mean, there's some good momentum. doesn't feel like it, but you kind of have to, I mean, I just was, i was just on our loading dock, sitting on a table out with somebody today.
00:07:10
Speaker
We delivered something on Sunday and we had, had, you know, we, yeah, it's just, you don't, you don't really know until, until you're like, Oh wow, this thing's
Business Dynamics and Success
00:07:19
Speaker
popping. So yeah. But yeah, lots of momentum.
00:07:22
Speaker
I mean, if I look back and when I got off the plane to now, it was a whole network of people I didn't know existed. And, you know, and half the fucking people in the world are are going to be like, yeah, they might be buying a table soon.
00:07:37
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah and so once they drop, i I'll think it's real. But we made, I mean, i don't we need to get into this, but we made some good strides with like contractors and interior designers and you know people like that so ah we'll see where it all goes dude keep on grinding but you're optimistic or what
00:08:01
Speaker
i don't know i mean i can't even think about it like yeah it's like i don't i can't even process it it's it's like yeah go ahead go ahead was gonna say it's not one of those things that pops immediately I can't even like, I can't get too, it's like I feel like I can't think about too much or when I think about what I'm doing, I might be like, what the?
00:08:22
Speaker
What I mean by that is like walking into like, i' know what's a prominent store in Denver, like a furniture store, but not some piece of shit chain. Room and board? No, they're a fucking chain.
00:08:32
Speaker
Oh, is there is there there, you can't find them anymore, but is there like a high-end independent store? Probably, I just wouldn't know the name of them Yeah, it doesn't matter, but think like just walking in there and be like,
00:08:44
Speaker
But you know, does anyone here make purchasing decisions?
00:08:48
Speaker
well And just slinging it and then and then getting good results. And it's like, if you just sit and think about it, walking in and doing shit like that, you're like, that sounds horrible. But it's fine. It's been actually kind of, I'll say, i don't know about, I wouldn't say, i don't know fun's the right word, but it's kind of entertaining.
00:09:07
Speaker
Yeah, has it made you more confident, more social? I mean, I just feel like it's it's one of those things where you're like, I got to do it. It is what it is. I got to do it. I need to sit here and talk to people. And the more I do it, it's the easier it gets. and And i I just have to do it. So I'm not even thinking about it. I guess it's making me more confident like for the next one.
00:09:27
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But every situation every situation's kind of different. So then you got to like fucking and mount up again and be like, it could be, it just depends who you're talking to, you know? But I don't know. it's It's fine.
Humor in Professional and Personal Roles
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Speaker
Let me say something that's helped a lot of people. Oh, good. That's what I need. You'll figure it out, buddy. You'll get there. Okay. I just had a a thousand pounds of weight lift off my shoulders when you said that.
00:09:55
Speaker
I know. I yeah like to fuck with my wife lately. This is ah another hard shift. Maybe not. Well, I like to fuck with her and walk around the house. I have a little song that's like, it's it's like a play on how little I do, but instead it's projection. So I just walk around singing, why do I do so much?
00:10:15
Speaker
Every time I like do the dishes, anytime I like do anything for the house, why do I do so much? Why do I do so much? And she's just is like, oh, my God. Because she's still working, like you.
00:10:32
Speaker
that's But she's got as much, at least the equal amount of passion that I do. for it maybe even more right yeah well would you say it's her own damn fault is that what you is that how you you uh you know frame it for i just think it's funny in this society where the man isn't working and the wife is still working that the man walks around and sings a song about how much he does and i just love it And she's like, oh, Lance. Well, she laughs most of the time, and then say except I'll hit it nonstop when she's stressed or something.
00:11:07
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And it just makes me laugh to see her just be like, shut the fuck up. Ja. Es ja. That's what we have in Spanish. Es ja. I mean, stop. Pretty funny. So that's the humor, the f FFF type humor that I run through my household.
00:11:23
Speaker
Yeah, worry about when you when you're not doing FFF, I worry about people around you, what they're going have to deal with. I feel like that's a good outlet and in the end. It's it's to her benefit, and the other people around you, that you have something like FFF.
00:11:36
Speaker
ah Yeah, probably. do you d That's a good... Good segue to a conversation that we didn't plan, but do you feel like with this process, you've you understand the line again in terms of professionalism? and Because I don't know that I do anymore. I was sitting at this like financial group and I just started asking the weirdest questions and I was like, and be maybe I've lost something here, but I'm curious what your experience has been.
00:12:05
Speaker
Do go maybe pull it back a little, Lance, in your head? Yeah, exactly. Um, you know, I don't really think about it at all. Okay.
00:12:18
Speaker
But can you right now, can you like process a little bit? Well, I'm not, I mean, I'm not, I'm probably pushing the line of what most people think is normal. And like, you're just engaging in a new relationship, like a sales relationship or something. Or I might be crossing that line, but I'm not sitting there going like, can I fucking get away with this?
00:12:38
Speaker
You know what i mean? Are you consciously going like, I'm going to fucking push the envelope here? Is it just happening because that's where you are? Are you like, all right, people.
00:12:49
Speaker
Lance is about to rock your world with something. No, it's just more of like, you know what it is. Normal conversation bores both of us. And so if I meet anyone, it's like, how quick can I get to a different place?
00:13:03
Speaker
Unless there's like a, I guess in your situation, you have a very specific thing you're chatting about. i always But I always have humor. so i don't have It doesn't have to be like straight up, like I'm just saying, crazy crude.
00:13:16
Speaker
I'll always interject humor where where I shouldn't. I always have that. But it can be real family-friendly humor. So I'll do that. Which you do too.
00:13:29
Speaker
But I don't i don't necessarily like need to go into Cox or anything like that. No, dude. You know I'm not talking about that, buddy. I'm talking more about the places that you're willing to go with somebody, but I guess in a business setting, I'd see it. I've lost touch, I guess in a business setting, you don't go to those places. you just talk about wood.
00:13:52
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, yeah, but even in that setting, I mean, it depends. I guess I i don't know if it's because, are you saying because this show? Or just as an adult? like Am I getting better at knowing where the line is?
Balancing Professionalism and Authenticity
00:14:05
Speaker
Well, I mean more of because you left work and you kind of sat and did your own thing for a while. Yeah. And now you have to you have to be on brand effectively. And it's sort of like working in a corporate environment, obviously different. but But I think this the stress and like the – it's just – I don't even know if I call it stress. But like the idea of the singular focus of how am I going to make this stupid thing work.
00:14:27
Speaker
has sucked the energy out of like maybe being like some sort of subconscious rebel in every situation where I can be like, I'm a fucking, I can do whatever I want and I have to prove it all the time.
00:14:41
Speaker
so So it's kind of sad, but it's also good. Well, didn't think you would do that, but more of like you you do lose some sense of what's happening in the world today and in terms of just like normal interactions.
00:14:57
Speaker
like an old person that hasn't been around the youngins and been in the workplace a long time, comes in there and spits out some really dumb shit or some archaic stuff. And so you'd been out long enough to so maybe yeah not be sure.
00:15:12
Speaker
I do feel like maybe there's like a shift where like the, you know, you always think of like the youth as though as like the rebels pushing, pushing the envelope and saying stupid shit. I think maybe that young generation is almost like flipped back a little more like correct professional thing.
00:15:30
Speaker
Cause I've worked with a few people now like in their twenties or early thirties and they seem way more professional than me. Yeah, I think that's a youth thing, maybe. But I'm not sure.
00:15:41
Speaker
I don't think so. Because he talk I talk to people our age or in their later 30s and they're a little more like free. it could be It could be youth. It could be could be like they're they're just trying to get shit going. so they're you know So they're like, <unk> I'm just going to err on the side of caution. could be something like that.
00:16:00
Speaker
Whereas an older person is just like, fuck it. I'm just going to, as you say, sling it around.
00:16:06
Speaker
Did you get feedback in the workplace like I did? that's like I can't tell if you're serious. Ah, maybe. But I mean, people, I'm sure you got to the point where everyone was just like, that's just Lance.
00:16:21
Speaker
So people, were people like just quick, pretty quickly were just kind of like, here comes Matt. Talking shit. um I mean, never got, I never got in trouble or anything. Did you ever get in trouble? No, i I think for the most part I was viewed as very serious.
00:16:35
Speaker
You can see that though. ah You've worked with me now with this fucking thing and you know I turn on that like seriousness. I could fucking run Wildwood Edges right to the goddamn moon, buddy. I could rocket ship that motherfucker.
00:16:51
Speaker
um just kidding. I haven't lost that. i haven't I haven't tapped into like just pure seriousness. i haven't lost my lack of seriousness. At least. Okay. Yeah, no, but i was I was probably viewed as serious and both calm in the more when people were stressed out. And I don't feel like I'm either of those things, so it was always quite funny to get that feedback. I could see competitively almost like raising to the challenge of someone trying to out-serious you or out-professional you and you being like, are you ready to fucking, I'm going to run this meeting in a professional way just to like win that battle or something. I could see that happening.
00:17:25
Speaker
but so you So you stay more true to yourself through whatever situation. I think so, yeah. But I also like, you know, how can you how ah how can I say I'm staying true to myself when I'm out here carrying wood slabs and parking lots going, want to come take a look at this?
00:17:43
Speaker
mean, it is kind of true to myself in a way. But you're making jokes. You're... you're you know The way you talk to your kids, for example, is pretty fucking hilarious for anybody that has heard and knows what I'm talking about. But I'm sure you're very loose and come over somewhat, perhaps overly comfortable in a setting with a new person. And I'm sure that's the case, whether you're in a corporate environment with Joe Blow's CEO or whatever.
00:18:11
Speaker
Yeah, I think if I've learned anything, it's not that I've learned, but I feel like I'm like, oh, that's an asset if I do it correctly. You know, like that could be an asset where I don't, I'm not some sales guy or I need to be at, I'm at some networking party and I'm, I can easily like crack the code as just a nice guy to hang out with.
00:18:30
Speaker
Yeah. Funny guy. So I'm starting to see like, oh, I mean, it really, you hear this over and over in life, but where it's just like, just be yourself and, uh, you know, be yourself and, and that's all you can do. But, uh, you know what i mean?
00:18:46
Speaker
Yeah, but you don't code switch. You don't code switch is probably like I do, no matter what. I see a black guy, I'm like, yo, what's up? ah i I think we all do.
00:18:58
Speaker
not Maybe not that hardcore, but we all are. like i mean, we're all different people. like Think about the way you talk to your youre you know the way you talk to your parents compared to the way you talk to me. Although I've seen you talk. You do talk like that to everyone.
00:19:09
Speaker
But I'm sure you talk differently to different people. Mm-hmm. I mean, I'm pretty much myself, but maybe just the material material might be a little different.
00:19:20
Speaker
Yeah, I come across like a right-winger, and I'm like, yeah, I hate blacks. That is the right-wing ideology right there. Right, because I code switch. I want to fit in bad.
00:19:33
Speaker
You got all these all these terms. i don't even know what that means. Right-winger? Right-winger. No, code switch. You got a lot of terms that I don't have. Yeah, and i'm I'm not sure I understand it either. I know that code switching is to embody... I should look it up.
00:19:48
Speaker
I'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it means you're more relatable if you do it. Obviously, you don't you know talk to a few black dudes and start jiving to try to fit in and start saying the N-word. That is not what it means.
00:20:00
Speaker
i think if I do anything like that, if I'm having a conversation with a black dude... i'm a little i'm more I'm less likely to be like talking shit. I mean, I will, but not i might agree I might be more agreeable. I'd be like, that's a good point. lot of that's a good point, or I see what you're saying, or tag what they're saying with like, yeah, it's like this and back up what they're saying.
00:20:21
Speaker
um I might do that. Be like, I know Barclay's a clown, man. Well, inside I'm like, Charles Barclay's my hero. but But I'm like... Yeah. i the You know, talking to black folks and...
00:20:33
Speaker
that That doesn't bother me. Really trying to relate to right-wingers or overly religious people is where I'm struggling right now. and I mean hardcore right. Well, how often are you dealing with that? every week.
00:20:45
Speaker
I mean, it's pretty, there's a lot of that here.
Navigating Cultural and Political Discussions
00:20:49
Speaker
i mean, some of the places we're delivering these tables to, like it's pretty out there, like in rural America in the middle of the country, like still like Trump 2024 signs and all sorts of stuff like that.
00:21:01
Speaker
and But they're not saying anything off offensive. They're not saying anything offensive, but i they're saying stuff that, like, the way they'd answer a question might, like, I mean, this isn't necessarily a right thing, but I was talking to one of the customers, and they were and the and he was um using, like, Amish, he gets a lot of Amish furniture, and I was like, wow, a lot of people, I don't, in Colorado, it's not really a thing because I don't know if there's any Amish people out there, but Lots of parts of the country, a lot of people get their, like, wooden furniture from Amish people.
00:21:31
Speaker
And i was like, wow, they seem to be, really have, like, the market corner. and they They do pretty well. And the guy's like, that's cause they that's because they work. They'll do the work. Most people like, a lot of people just won't work.
00:21:42
Speaker
He didn't get, like, start getting right wing, but I have, you know, in my mind, I'm like, all right. that's ah the other side of that these fucking lazy fucks right socialist medicaid yeah welfare mamas and i agreed with them and i was like yeah i was like yeah it's it's amazing to even find some some people that would show up now because i had an experience where we were trying to like find some salesmen and you know i would send out like we'd get some applicant and i'm not talking about They weren't coming out of like Wharton Business School or anything like that by any means. But like some people are like, you should probably respond if anyone if anyone even gives you a look. and they They don't respond at all. So I was telling them that. But I was like, yeah, I agree with this guy. There is there is that thing. But, you know, some of those conversations can go.
00:22:28
Speaker
You can figure somebody's political view out pretty quickly. But these aren't like fundamental Christian deals or people being like, fuck. Fuck the immigrants. but But people will say shit about the immigrants. Oh, here's another one. You'll like this.
00:22:43
Speaker
guy He came into my shop. Great dude. Hit it off. Liked the wood. He he bought something. But he was he was like, oh, Costa Rica, it sounds the badass. I just took my family down to Dominican Republic. It was great.
00:22:57
Speaker
Which, in a way, is kind of funny. It's like saying, oh, you you live in Colorado? That's cool. I just took my family to Seattle. And you're like, who cares, right? But anyways, so he he's like, yeah, it was great. that It was weird. the The reef out in front of where we were staying, had like it's been dying it's like dying.
00:23:15
Speaker
That was kind of sad or something like that. It's been dying for like 40 years. And I said something like, you know, i don't really, i don't get too involved in any of this stuff, but it's like, there's some real simple shit where it's like, can't we just not do that?
00:23:26
Speaker
we do Do we need to fucking kill the reef? I'm sure there's ways, like, it it could be the hotel dumping shit out into the water or whatever. And he's like, man, I don't know. they said it's been dying for like 50 years, and I think it's ridiculous to believe.
00:23:38
Speaker
It's almost arrogant to believe that we actually can affect the earth that much. Or something like that. So, but this was a dude that you would dig. You would like this guy. But it but from that, I could gather a lot of information, right?
00:23:51
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. He's not buying in that much to to what they're saying about, about ah you know, climate change and stuff like that. Yeah, well, good for him.
00:24:02
Speaker
He's done his research, I'm sure. Yeah. But anyways, I mean, so I don't know what started what what I'm talking about. No, no, I get you, dude. I get you. What kicked this off? Oh, we're just talking about. do I wrap this up?
00:24:14
Speaker
Code switching. There's no wrap up. Oh, yeah, yeah. But in that case, I'm not. So, yeah, but the code switching. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not going, dude, come on. Fucking save the reef, bro. My code switching would just be like accepting what they said and not really pushing back or something like that. You know, I would, ah I do that. You, you might rise up there a little bit.
00:24:35
Speaker
Oh yeah. I'd give him a little taste. I mean, I wouldn't be a caustic, but I'd definitely give him a little counter punch in his bell bell and his belly. But i have real struggles with the religious religiosity. My wife and I both do. So like when somebody incorporates that into just a casual encounter, it's sort of like, oh my God, we've been so blessed.
00:24:56
Speaker
You know, Jesus has been so good to us. It's not exaggeration, by the way. You know, God just blessed us with some neighbors that are also Christians. And it's it's too much for me.
00:25:07
Speaker
It's too much. And I can't do that very well. You can counter... maybe maybe ease my mind, but I also think that right now in this era of our history, everybody's looking for some sort of religion. yeah Maybe it's crypto, maybe it's internet gambling, I'm not sure, but people are looking for something big to believe in.
00:25:29
Speaker
Trump, maybe it's MAGA, maybe it's Kamala, but the religiosity seems to get extended to these other things. That's a different point, but back to the original thing. what do you think about the Christians?
00:25:42
Speaker
I don't, why does that bother you? Like in that one, what what you just said there, it doesn't sound like they're like aggressively being like Lance. Like you just think it's ridiculous that they believe that but there was any other thing that happened where why they have these neighbors.
00:25:58
Speaker
Someone's like, oh, we're so blessed to have great neighbors. that bother you? It's such a strong signal. It's almost like they're fishing for a like-minded individual when they do that.
00:26:10
Speaker
That's what it feels like. I could be wrong. Maybe they go around and just like are praising Jesus and God it every day, all day. i hear it in pretty ridiculous circumstances to make me think that. like, I just can't see myself doing that with anything else.
00:26:24
Speaker
Like I say I was a Buddhist. Oh yes, I'm just so grateful for the meditations that Buddha taught me to calm me in this moment while we're at this party cooking hamburgers for the children.
00:26:36
Speaker
I'm not sure what that would mean. Yeah, I know, but I don't i don't know. i just thought't I just don't. I guess maybe I would if i was. I mean, if you put the situation and be like, what are you talking about?
00:26:47
Speaker
But I will say, I mean, I've been down Costa Rica for so long. Like someone saying, gracias a Dios, like thank God is and is like everyone says that all the time. Completely different, though.
00:26:57
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there's There's the normal incorporating religion culturally into just. life with other people and then there's the like force feeding this very american christian whole set of portfolio of views in your approach and that's it's i mean that is a turnoff it drove just throws me the wrong there there's a guy in the neighborhood that does that and that's why i'm bringing this example up and then of course my family i think are fucking batshit but You think when he's saying something like that, he's he's he's kind of's ah sort of the undertone is like, you should check this out, Lance.
00:27:34
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This is better for you. No, I don't think he's converting. I think he's just sending. he just He wants everybody to know immediately. you know he's a He's a believer. Okay. and And that's fine.
00:27:45
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Do your thing. But I'm not sure it's appropriate at a block party,
Media Influence on Perception
00:27:51
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dude. I don't... It doesn't... Does it bother me? It's just stupid. I just... I can't be friends with you, not because you believe in Christianity, but because you're a fucking idiot.
00:28:01
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Yeah. Well, I do... I always... Like, back to what I was saying earlier, where I feel like the country's gone, right? There is this... This undertone of, like, everything pushing into, like, country music, right?
00:28:14
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Honor Charlie Kirk. I see that. It feels like this. it's not it's not But it's not like insane like that angry older white guy right wing stuff. that i that What I expect it's like this more subtle like down home roots type movement or something like that.
00:28:29
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Do you feel that where you are? not my immediate network no it's like the whole it's like the travis kelsey what's her name movement or something i feel like sailor swift yeah yeah it's like all pushing into that that direction the challenge now and you said it before and it's probably the wisest thing you've said on the entire show over 200 two two years is that the internet isn't real it can create real emotions but like You can't totally be sure if what's being said on the internet is actually happening in the real world.
00:29:03
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Take, for example, we've ranted about the love male men male loneliness epidemic or and the trad wife scene. like Is that all real like in ah meaningful way?
00:29:15
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Or are those just like internet trends via Instagram or whatever? I don't know. And the the media now, because... don't know, it's probably confusing landscape for them, but they like will report on things people random influencers say on Instagram or TikTok.
00:29:31
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They report on that stuff or so-and-so said this about so-and-so. It's ah so it's hard to know what's actually happening out there. Yeah, I mean, that's... I don't even... It's like... It's pretty easy for me to just go, that is a that is a sad state of affairs. It is. but But I'm also like... That is like, old man, get off my lawn when I say that, I feel like now. Because it's just the reality that's like... That maybe our kids don't even think it's weird.
00:30:00
Speaker
It's just not... We're just not accustomed to it. It's fucking... It's like the most... you know on the so For me, it's like the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. like Influences are reporting on an Instagram personality. It's like insanity, but I'm also like, eh, it is what it is.
00:30:17
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It does, but it's shaping perceptions in a meaningful way now. and You take this Charlie Kirk guy who was essentially an influencer, a podcaster, and he was very successful with his style, but not a good dude.
00:30:34
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Not a good dude and in a holistic way. like yeah Why do you say that? They're treating it whole. Let's get into fucking Charlie Kirk while we're here. like and i don't i'm not asking I'm not patronizing you.
00:30:49
Speaker
I just don't know what what's bad about the guy. I think there have been some things said that you would categorize and and in that arena of racism, but there's also been a lot of really blatant misogyny, anti-feminist stuff that is just full of really... He says that?
00:31:09
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Or he did say... i was yeah No, he's just the stuff that they were pitching. So essentially they pitch him and his wife, but mostly him pitch this... The university system has robbed you of the truth.
00:31:24
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And, you know, I'm not an expert on the dude, so I'm just spitballing here, folks. But that that women should be homemakers. Men need to earn money. You're saying he has ah he also had a positive message.
00:31:38
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But what did he say? Yeah. He boils it down to that. He boils it down to, says, women, you need to raise kids, essentially. and very just In a very dismissive way, he very anti-trans, very anti-anything you would consider, most rational people consider human rights oriented.
00:31:57
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He'd be very like, having a counter opinion to that. So, you know, he dissed like and MLK. did Did he deserve to be shot that? Of course not, right? my Nice, nice recovery.
00:32:08
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Was he evil? No. Was he manipulating people, I think, to this point of view, using very shocking, like, influencer and podcast-type, like, over-the-top type techniques, cherry-picking data, just doing doing things like you would expect of just a normal influencer, which is fine.
00:32:29
Speaker
But you don't put dude on the pedestal alongside MLK, right? Like, was anyone, anyone were were they really putting him there before he died? I don't think so. No. Maybe um me I'm just out to lunch, but he wasn't like, I'm like, I wonder if anyone I would have heard of him.
00:32:47
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Do you think my parents knew who the fuck he was before that happened? I don't know. I mean, I would say, well, your parents, you think they heard of him before? Like, even in that circle, was he was he like a popular dude?
00:32:59
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Probably because I think he had the voice of the president. really in terms of just like his interaction with the youth. Before the death, he... Oh, he had you said the voice of the president, not the backing of the president.
00:33:10
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Well, he had the ears of... The president's ear is the right way to put it. So he was becoming a big deal in that arena, bigger deal. Yeah, yeah. but I didn't know what he does or did.
00:33:23
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He's just that right-wing activist, essentially. But, you know, if you you can find plenty of clips of very... ah obscene and obnoxious points of view that most people would like hmm that's not very that's not very balanced for a hero for a hero or somebody we might like you know let's put him alongside Gandhi you know what i mean so that's all that's all I would say is ah sady died it's sad died it's not fair you can have whatever opinion hopefully you you need to in this country but like come on let's not let's not pretend he was a saint he's not Jimmy Carter he's no Jimmy Carter bro
00:34:00
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Right. i Yeah, I don't know. And I don't care, but I've seen i mean i've seen like younger people be like, they they might have a sticker or something. It's like Charlie we Kirk vigils and shit. You're like, why did that happen?
00:34:14
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I know. i have the same feeling about Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. like Was he a good songwriter? Yeah. Genius? No. Not in my opinion. And he just gets, because he killed himself, he goes down as like one of the greatest artists of all time.
00:34:30
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Right. Not sure that's true, dude. I do think... Rate Me was a real fucking hit. i I just think the the influence of how they changed the culture ah was pretty profound.
00:34:47
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and And there was a definite before and after Nirvana. like I don't see a before and after Charlie Kirk. Okay. There were multiple bands, though, right? right Like, there was a before and after MLK, Gandhi, the other people you mentioned. Maybe even, I don't know, like, a good, like, Reagan, maybe, actually, I think, probably.
00:35:07
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It's like a before and after and how people thought or what people, and I don't see, there's no fucking way. Charlie Kirk is in that. I do think Nirvana is in that. but i Because i don't I wouldn't go without... Okay, here's ah here's a good one for you, bro.
00:35:22
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And you know I like these bands too. but before Without Alice in Change, the the scope of rock music doesn't change. That's not true. But you would say without Nirvana, the scope of rock music wouldn't have changed.
00:35:35
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yeah Because Nirvana hit a wave that was brewing alongside Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. And you throw Alice in Chains in there. The timing's all a little suspect. Yeah, but even i mean even Pearl Jam, Nirvana had a bigger... I know Pearl Jam, maybe you can make the case there.
00:35:52
Speaker
I think Nirvana probably had the biggest influence as far as that just like the 80s are over and we're all fucking sad now. like Is that because of the genius or is that just because of you know most things in life? which paving Not just probability. It's just like, dude, you guys had that one hit song that really captured it.
00:36:12
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Kurt Cobain was a very catchy, unique songwriter for sure. And he was an interesting guy, very opinionated. And he fit that whole mold. But dude, come on. it's just probabilities.
00:36:22
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Just like is Jeff Bezos and mark are they the Mark Zuckerberg, are they the smartest men in the world or Elon Musk? I mean, they hit They hit something. If you make this wild wood shit go big, it's it's not going to be because you're a
Societal Roles in Marriage and Media Impact
00:36:35
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fucking genius. It's just going to be shit happened, other stuff rolled over on it.
00:36:41
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mean... Can you think of anyone that's a before and after figure? Like, and and even sport could be religion, could be entertainment.
00:36:53
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Like, is there anything where you're like, there was before... I mean, I actually think Nirvana might be the one. I think Muhammad Ali, because you didn't see like black athletes in the culture like that.
00:37:08
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Yeah, he didn't see that. And he became a model for for people to use their power, whether it was through athletics, to to really speak their mind. What's funny is that there's a lot of bad people in history that there's a before and after.
00:37:22
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure I would praise the kids for flying the Charlie Kirk stickers on their cars or whatever. I'm not sure that that's... I'm not sure they know all of what the dude represented.
00:37:36
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Or they just agree with it. Yeah, they might. mean, again, the people like what the stuff that you're saying, if you believe in it, then you think he was like a bat, you know, a bastion elite, like for hope. but It's almost the same the same way the other way. Like, okay, I don't think there's a before and after chart like Charlie Kirk or or anyone really.
00:37:53
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I mean, I might even say like, not even Trump. But I think he's up there, I think. but Yeah, I mean, i was good I thought that you might be like, yeah, there's definitely, and but there and and it's going to be drastic if ah if he keeps going on the way he is. There's ah going to be a definite before and after Trump after the second term. Yeah.
00:38:12
Speaker
And by the time he's down 2036, it's going to easy. But... kindnna be these but Yeah, that would be a before and after. But I mean, even that, I just go, well, people thought that about his first term and like life went on.
00:38:24
Speaker
but But in the same way that you would, in a positive way, wouldn't say there's a before and after for somebody. I'm not like ah Charlie Kirk was so negatively bad for our society. There's a before and after in a negative way. I don't think that. No, i've gotten no I wouldn't say that either.
00:38:39
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No, I just think that there's a lot of misinformation about... what he actually represented. And I think it's funny that folks are viewing him as almost like a civil rights leader who really brought people from the slave chains to freedom.
00:38:58
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If we had our shit together, that's a good episode. People that you think that before and after, where you know you know where people are like, whatever they did changed something so much. I would put Steph Curry above Michael Jordan and the NBA for that.
00:39:13
Speaker
No fucking way. Well, Michael Jordan was just great. But like the before and after is what? be but Be the best player in the world? No, but they went after prototype Michael Jordan-like athletes.
00:39:26
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And still to to this day, they're looking i don't know if you say it's Steph or Dirk or like the whole game moved outside and people are jacking up threes like crazy. That completely changed the game.
00:39:37
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Sure. Like the game's unrecognizable to what it was in the 80s and 90s. It doesn't mean it's, I like it, but like I think Djokic might go there too as far as what you look for in a big man.
00:39:49
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Yeah. And you know, Charlie Kirk got women back in the home. Yeah. Yeah, i like that that stuff, that I don't know. Like that stuff doesn't bother me that much. What?
00:40:00
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Getting the women back in the home? Yeah, or just the idea that that's someone's opinion. Like... i don't it's like It's the same way as so as like right now, like my family thinks that I should be making money.
00:40:12
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like And I'm like, i well, what are they, fucking sexist? like I should be like, fuck that. That's not what dads do. like it's it I'm not saying that you can you should agree with it or disagree with it. I'm just like, well, people think that, and that's that is the way it is. People are looking at me to make money because I'm a man, you know?
00:40:30
Speaker
You can believe that for sure. They can believe I'm a man. feel like I'm fucking young boy. Yeah. Look how fat I am, dude. The point of view was more couched in a way to be very dismissive of feminism and very dismissive of women who are gaining power.
00:40:48
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There is a concept of submissive, what's the term? Submissive wives. I know what you're saying, And it was more in that arena. So if you're a young, you know, it was a lot of girl empowerment in the the previous 20, 30 years.
00:41:03
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And now here comes ah somebody and a whole faction, obviously, of the right wing. They're like, nope, that failed. Look at that failed because men and women aren't dating as much and a lot of are getting married later.
00:41:16
Speaker
And that's all because women are working and they don't want kids now because they're all hungry for their power and money. And there's a lot of blame on women, which is it's quite fun hilarious. But the truth is the real enemy is income inequality. And that is the enemy and the the reason behind a lot of these problems, including getting married late.
00:41:36
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But yeah, you can have that point of view. It can be a valid point of view in some circumstances. But just tell men, if I just told you, man, go fucking earn. You need to go earn, Matt. That's what most men feel. You're a worthless piece of shit if you don't.
00:41:49
Speaker
I'm not sure that's a good message for society. But that that message has been part of the makeup of society forever, right? um Except for the last 20, 30 years where people were...
00:42:02
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really figuring it out. And actually marriage is stronger in terms of divorce rates for people who do get married than it has been a long, long time. Wait, marriage, divorce divorce rates are going down, you're saying?
00:42:14
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Uh-huh. Yeah, and and I think it's in part because people are coming together with like contracts if you will, not not necessarily on paper, but a real strong view of the partnership and what each person brings at the table. And sometimes that means a dude is supporting his surgeon wife by taking care of the kids for a period time.
00:42:35
Speaker
And I don't personally see anything wrong with that arrangement, but this guy would would say that that's ah that's a broken marriage and that's going to fail. And so you're you're cool with Trim making a little money and Charlie Kirk would say. That's not their role. That's not their biblical role.
00:42:51
Speaker
And again, you can have that opinion. i just think it's wrong. But he's a hero and we should make a fucking statue of him. How about the Beatles, Lance? Do you think there it was a before and after? No. Would you be like, they're just right place at the right time?
00:43:04
Speaker
Well, they were. And they were they were the right place at right time. Everybody who is successful is. There are a lot of people that came before their time and struggled. But yeah, yeah, they were. They changed the landscape of music forever. think actually, you know, you talk about Charlie Kirk, but there is definitely some, like it or not, there is some personalities like in the sort of talk. Like, because that was like what those people are doing are kind of like the talk radio people in the ninety s Yeah, Rush Limbaugh was the pioneer.
00:43:34
Speaker
There was a before and after. That dude is on the Mount Rushmore of like speaking whatever the fuck you want to back up your side and like and going on full blast, attacking. It's like edit editorial journalism became like the truth that's yeah for people or something. And they're doing it on all the networks.
00:43:54
Speaker
Like they're cherry picking data and having conversations. On both sides, right? On both sides. And they're not... It's not journalism. It's entertainment. and we know that, obviously. But ah he was a pioneer.
00:44:05
Speaker
he was ah He was in fact. You and I know that? Because not everyone knows that. What? Rush Limbaugh? No, you said we know it's entertainment. Oh, well, yeah. I'm not sure if everybody knows that. But we know that.
00:44:16
Speaker
But in fact, Charlie Kirk was so inspired by Rush Limbaugh when he was in high school that he wanted to take that path. Did Rush Limbaugh die? yeah Yeah, he died.
00:44:29
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He's another one that they they idolize yeah they idolized him like he was a hero. I mean, he this guy propagated so much misinformation and so much vitriol, and he like was, I'm not going to say single-handedly, but he had he was very instrumental in creating the otherizing and the tension that we see today.
00:44:48
Speaker
It'd be nice to actually talk to him and be like, if he was like, well, um my job was to entertain and that's how I did it or he'd be like, that's bullshit. Well, I didn't I didn't what I said was the truth or something. I wonder what his take on it was.
00:45:03
Speaker
I think he he would he's he's been on record saying, you know, his his job is to embellish and and make it interesting, entertaining. But what's so fascinating is the that whole ecosystem. So many people are benefiting from it and benefiting from escalating the rhetoric in a way that's, you know, like calling Democrats evil now or whatever.
00:45:26
Speaker
Satan worshipers, all that's normal now. And you you get people who used to be sort of straight journalistic types who now have podcasts that have escalated into this. Rush Limbaugh, what's the other guy, the Sandy Hook denier, Alex Jones.
00:45:42
Speaker
They've escalated into this arena and because it's so profitable. Megyn Kelly, Ben Shapiro, these are like sort of straight-laced folks that now go really far, Tucker Carlson, to justify aggressive points of view.
00:45:57
Speaker
Well, they they probably can't go far enough because it's just so successful. They're probably like, shit, I got to keep going. They're probably like, fuck. Yeah. I got to go harder. It works.
00:46:08
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It works. And so the left's catching on. I think they've got... versions of this that are building the problem with the left is they <unk>re They're often more like play by the rules type people are well bleeding heart and so they have trouble just blatantly like living lies Henry Ford, bro Henry Ford Before and after Yeah, he there definitely was so you must have a you have a ah real thick palpable hatred for Henry Ford.
00:46:39
Speaker
Yeah but He probably didn't know. In terms of his business approach? Yeah, like the fucking automobiles. Oh, yeah. I hate it.
00:46:51
Speaker
I hate that we organize the entire country around automobiles. And it's so ingrained in our personality, this sense of freedom that we get from automobiles that you see people who are spending 40, 50% of their income to have a car.
00:47:05
Speaker
And it's a sad, sad fucking thing. I love blowing something out like that. And then you know, I'm to jump. Dude, Henry Ford. But somebody was going to invent it. And he you know he invented the...
00:47:18
Speaker
That sounded dumb. Yeah. Did he emb invent the automobile or the combustion engine? Do you know? I don't. He didn't invent it. I don't believe, but he definitely invented the approach to make automobiles cheap enough for the average person to buy one.
00:47:32
Speaker
So he invented essentially the assembly line.
00:47:37
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Yeah, I need to think a little bit on this before and after. If Charlie gave us anything else, it made me think about the before and after. And then I should base my slab everything on could I be that guy locally?
00:47:53
Speaker
There was before Wildwood Edges, and then there was after, right? I think you can. I think you can. How about the Mamas and the Papas? The band?
00:48:03
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but Before and after. They had a big girl in that band, right? but right That's where I'm going, buddy. A big white girl, too. like It was cool to be a big black girl who's got pipes and can sing. they don't see too many big white girls. Although that didn't there wasn't much of it a before and after. There was just her.
00:48:18
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ditch maybe That's true. and then it was So know there was no after. It was like, no, never again. was the next time there was a big white girl who was a prominent singer? Maybe an actor.
00:48:29
Speaker
Adele? Adele? When she was bigger? don't know. Is Adele fat? I don't know what she looks like. but No, she was a little overweight at first. I think she's she' slimmed down. what was ah There was like three sisters or something. There was a band in maybe the 90s. Oh, yeah. Carney.
00:48:47
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Carney Wilson. And of them was the Wilson sisters? wilson well I forgot their name. But they were yeah they were the Beach Boy guys. Ryan Wilson's kids. Are you serious?
00:48:59
Speaker
A few of them were, yeah. One of them was big, right? Yes, Carney. Carney Wilson. And she went on to have a talk show host, and people made fun of her for a wait all the time. She's actually pretty charismatic.
00:49:11
Speaker
One of my favorite Denver comics of all time, Troy Baxley, I don't know you remember him. he He had a joke about something like, good to be here last night that was in... Kearney, Nebraska. The night before that, I was in Kearney, Wilson.
00:49:28
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ah Yeah, so Mamas and the Papas. I mean, I would like to hunt this down. I know we're pushing time here, but a big white girl that we just let go out there and sing.
00:49:39
Speaker
i don't know if there were many after her. forgot her name. And the mamas and the papas. I mean, think about like... Cass, mama Cass. Yeah, mama Cass. There you Did you... i mean, they didn't even let stewardess weigh more than like 135 pounds in the 60s and 70s, dude.
00:49:57
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Even through the 80s. There's so much dictated to to women. before we Before we went off the rails, 135 people would be like, oh my God, you're obese. 135. made that number up, but they you had to be thin.
00:50:15
Speaker
I know this firsthand account because my wife's mother was a flight attendant. those like Those were kind of like glamorous positions back then, weren't they? Yep. I think they look for attractive women, but they they would not they would just say, you you could do that back then. like you could You could just hire whoever you wanted. You didn't have to suffer. Yeah, you didn't have to suffer through hire of some overweight piece of shit. They couldn't get the job done or or get anybody hard.
00:50:41
Speaker
You could just straight up say hot, thin, It's exactly what I need. You're not that. Get the fuck out of here, fatty. You could just say shit like that back then. Yeah. Kind of like what Pete Hex has doing now to the military. do you hear that, um buddy?
00:50:57
Speaker
No. I've seen they're doing skits about him or something. what is he He's anti-fat or anti-gay or what's he anti? just All those things. Anti-beard, anti-weak.
00:51:10
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Beard? Yeah, he wants the military. He said too many fat generals, too many fat infantry people, infantry men and women. Too many women probably. But what's the problem there?
00:51:23
Speaker
Not the women, but what's the problem with trying to get the military in shape? There is no problem, but I think that... Is that ridiculous? No, I think it's ah it's a ah small solid endeavor for the people that...
00:51:35
Speaker
fill those combat roles or fill those leadership roles in a combat setting. How is that impossible? Those guys all going through like boot camp and shit? How are they? No, and we're talking about people who haveve been in the military for years and years and years. You just become a normal person and you might go serve on a ship for four or five months and you're doing, i mean, yeah you know most most military people are not doing hardcore labor every day.
00:51:57
Speaker
Is he, and he, is ah is it kind of a lead by example type message where it's like, how can we have all fat generals who asking these kids to get in shape? and Is it a, you know is it a bad message? or Is it being criticized or what?
00:52:10
Speaker
It's a... It's a pretty dumb message in the sense that you bring people, all your leadership to a meeting and it's public and you, I mean, he just, guy's just not a good leader.
00:52:23
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You ever say, hey, look, I want to get back to doing the physical tests and making sure that everybody who's in the military meets minimum standards. Great. But you get them there and you're literally going, oh, you got these fat fucking, you know, that's just, it's just not good leadership.
00:52:41
Speaker
You might like it. A guy like you might like that, but I don't think it's effective. Yeah, I mean, I don't have it. I don't know, but I haven't heard the message. If he's carrying on, like, I don't know. If it's if he's literally just going, we need our military to get in shape, and he says it a colorful way where he's just like.
00:52:58
Speaker
Just go listen, and then you can decide. You probably will laugh and love it. I mean, I probably will laugh. But have you ever... I watched something last night. My friend sent me something. It was a... Nothing alarms, Matt. Hold on. Nothing alarms him. Nothing will... Trump could have the National Guard every city in the U.S. And Matt's just like, well, didn't this happen in 1972 under Nixon?
00:53:21
Speaker
I don't know. it probably did, dude. Kent State. That's when Pools got capped. 1960-something. But... ah but Well, I hope I'm right.
00:53:31
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Because what what you're saying is like, there's a, I had this conversation with the person I'm staying with too, like, is there like an underbrewing climate where it's going to get to the point where it's just going to kind of like explode?
00:53:44
Speaker
And is that happening? Like, if people perceive what you're saying is right, there's just too much. do you call that? Well, like power from the, don't authority, almost like authoritarian. Yeah.
00:53:56
Speaker
Yeah. the the That there's going to be a pushback eventually. And then shit's going to get out of control because you're going to have all these armed officers out there doing some, some real shit's going down. Then it's going to like really escalade into something that, it's going to escalade.
00:54:14
Speaker
Yeah, but then maybe you guys are right. i just i'm like I'm just driving around like a fucking idiot. I don't know that... listen to me anybody can predict, but I think the elements of chaos are certainly brewing.
00:54:28
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They're brewing, man. Do you think, you take away everything else, if you were sitting around having beers with with Donald T, it would be fun, entertaining, and you might be like, oh, he's a different guy and i thought, or you think you'd just be like, it would just be clown. It would definitely be fun.
00:54:43
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I think the guy's very entertaining, very personable. I think he's just... I don't know. but charlie I bet you Charlie Kirk no i would suck to fucking drink with. It wouldn't be like, oh my God, dude. Like he's trying to win every argument.
00:55:00
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Right? Probably. Like the way you describe him, he's just out manipulating people with like his words and be like, well, so if you think that then wouldn't it be logical? Like that guy?
00:55:10
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What he did is go out and debate. Yeah. Essentially college students. So ah of course you're going to be armed with cherry pick data and other points of view that are, are going to sound more compelling than a dumb fucking college kid. It just took a rip off of his little THC pen.
00:55:29
Speaker
So it's fucking fine. And I work and then it'd be like Charlie Kirk destroys college. Yeah. I mean, very good, very good at promoting that stuff. So man, we've meandered quite a bit. Might be our, if you don't cut it out, this is like our longest show in a while.
00:55:49
Speaker
don't know. I got time to edit this week, buddy. so come back Can you come back next week with your before and after? 2025 pick of the year ah before and after. Actually, I shouldn't limit limit it to 2025 because I don't think there was one this year.
00:56:04
Speaker
For yourself? I mean, I don't i don't know. There's nothing groundbreaking going on right now. AI probably. I mean, it's been so obscene, the AI stuff. But who do you put? like Do you put a person on that or do put it on as a movement?
00:56:17
Speaker
Yeah, you just put it as AI.
00:56:21
Speaker
okay so it's over my challenge is over huh i think if you're talking about it being like we don't have to wait till next week fuck i want that i want to give you some fat a on my yeah i don't know about that episode dude i think we just had it so we're good woke like bitch is that what you called yourself woke like bitch woke like a bitch oh a bitch and and there's no a Oh, yeah. Okay. i Woke like bitch. Because I knew you were sitting there worried about getting the episode out and everything. And I and i typed in haste.
00:56:51
Speaker
By the way, dude, I will say, i your recommendation for me to like put in all that campy, goofy humor stuff in last week's episode, I don't think that played well. So, fuck you.
00:57:03
Speaker
So sorry, bro.
00:57:07
Speaker
I'm sorry. Like the outhouse thing in the middle of the combo? Come on, Why? Yeah, I will say but' don't don't bail on yet, dude. I think you can spice this episode up enough if you if you got time to work this week.
00:57:22
Speaker
Let it rip, dude. Alright, buddy. all right Peace.
00:57:31
Speaker
a piece of shit
00:57:35
Speaker
Ooh, I'm piece shit