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CONFIRMED! Matt is a Right Winger
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Trust me. Trust me.
Netflix's Manosphere Documentary Overview
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Jesus loves us
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You watch that documentary on Netflix about the Manosphere? Because some of those guys in there you remind me of. have not. i don't even... I don't know. Well, maybe you kind of started to hint at it in the last week, but you didn't go into detail or two weeks ago.
Understanding the Manosphere: Roots and Appeal
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Manosphere is just this like sort of right wing back to back to traditional roots type movement. Not quite. Like I think the Manosphere light is Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn. It's just more of like kind of being a bro and talking about Those types of things. And then there's the a side that's particularly popular with teenage boys, which is really hating on women and telling kids to be a badass. You need to like you know look good and lift and fuck hoes and treat women like shit and be on top. And here's how you make money with crypto and and all the things you might consider cons. They're hawking.
00:01:59
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it's it's ah It's a world that you might fit in well to. I got a couple questions there and and a comment. One, I met Theobo on back in my stand-up. bit Him and I sat in a green room together while we waited for... We were auditioning for Last Comic Standing in Nashville Zanies. He was there by probably because someone asked him to be there.
00:02:21
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I wasn't. But nice, super sweet, funny dude. yeah for sure so i and with him i wonder rogan get is pretty opinionated but even him i wonder is is like who's at fault for the movement like i don't think theo van necessarily is at fault but like i mean he but is the movement like he has become part of that movement it's like who's at fault mean i know he had trump on his show and all that shit it's my first thing is like who's at fault for the neither of those two yeah to me are what i would consider this
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Bro Shows vs. Extreme Conspiracy Theories
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Manosphere. all they're they're just Those are bro shows, which you know you could, Adam Carolla, the fucking Barstool Sports, all that's like bro shows. That's all fine. It's yeah's fucking funny, dude. It's always been funny. Yeah, it's it's the ah really insane conspiracy theory stuff that somehow is appealing to teenage boys.
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And these guys are like, you know, creating lifestyle brands around hating women, hating Jews. Yeah, that's my second question. yeah Loving Nazism, just being aggressive. And as an example, like some of these dudes will like film themselves getting a blow job and like,
00:03:32
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you know, all those fucking bitches, fucking whore, and they just do stupid demeaning stuff. And it's as as high as you can escalate content as possible. And it mostly appeals to teenage boys.
00:03:45
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That's the manosphere. that's That's horrible. Yeah. I didn't know that existed. I was just about to ask you when you said they encourage like treating women like shit. Is that, is that, I was going ask, is that, you mean just part of it's like, no, traditional family values. or what What the like Bush one would talk, or is this more like actually treat them like shit?
00:04:05
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Is it more like, no, a woman needs to know her place as a man does? Or a little bit of both? Well, no, at its most extreme, the manosphere would borderline consider women as property and something that you should lead and control. You're talking about like Christian white nationalism. Right.
00:04:24
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Which jim Lucas, my son's been talking to me about that. Yeah. Which is more traditional, uh, marriages and white, you know traditional white picket fence, 1950s marriages.
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It's not as much disdain for women. It's just their role is more traditional.
Should Kids Watch the Manosphere Documentary?
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Yeah, exactly. Tub servant role. So yeah, that's so would you recommend for someone like me or someone who has a daughter this documentary on Manosphere? They like watch it with them so they can see what kind of fucking meathead tools are out there.
00:04:57
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i I would have both your kids get a sense of this and then just have a moment. You might not need to watch the whole thing and just like probably double down on the idea that influencers are, it's a shtick.
00:05:09
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The extreme thinking and behavior is just to get clicks. It's bullshit. lot of these guys are playing characters and... everything that they're selling you that won't work essentially. It's like shitty fucking stock tips, shitty fucking crypto investments, terrible lifestyle choices. What's this called by the way? I'm going to text myself because I'd like to watch it.
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It's, I think it's like inside the Manosphere or something. This is a Netflix joint. Yeah, and there's a guy that your son probably knows. He's like super popular now. It's it's Manosphere
The Impact of 'Looksmaxing' on Young Men
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Adjacent. his names His stage name, if you will, is Clavicular.
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And this motherfucker, he's what they call looksmaxer. So it's men who do everything humanly possible to maximize the way they look, including taking a hammer to their jaw to create...
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a more firm jaw, like fucking taking testosterone and every supplement under the sun. I can't even list all the things they do, but they're very influential to young boys right now.
00:06:18
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That's fucking terrible. It's sick phone level insanity that's rooted in isolation and boys not feeling confident in the world and not getting trim.
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They're not getting trim. They're not talking to girls. And so they move to these dipshits who give them advice. So there you go. Which is like, I don't know. It seemed like there was a bit of a movement where in high school, like people, kids that would get into like,
00:06:46
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whatever the clan or like local factions of shit like that white supremacy groups are like or or even like probably black kids that become like muslim it's so part of it's like i don't belong and so i found like a club that accepts me that kind of shit and so there's a little bit of that ah on a huge scale yeah because these folks have millions of followers now perhaps people are watching and sort of laughing at how stupid they are some of the teenagers probably are but some of them are taking their advice because they're, yeah, just like you said, they're left empty and they don't fit in.
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So has this reached into your, like, your life, or I don't know you know, not that you have to expose your whole family, but, like, has this creeped into where where you're where you live, high school, that your kids attend, like, is it, it's it's a thing?
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Where, like, your son, what is he, I don't know, was he 18, 17, 18, like, he would, like, all his friends would be watching this shit? ah Not at this point. I mean, you kind of grow out of it, I think. But yeah, he thinks they're all dipshits. It's more like my kid. Yeah, because my kid's 12. He's on YouTube every second.
00:07:50
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Yeah. So he's at risk at this point. 12 to about 15, I'd say.
Teenagers and Influencer Culture: Identity Challenges
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um Just, you know, you're you're trying to figure yourself out. you're You're growing and changing, as they say. And then these people come and tell you how to get chicks, how to get rich. every impulsive thing that a young teenage boy or girl, just they have different influencers, but anything that they'd want to achieve their dreams, these guys make the promises.
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So it's a, there's a sinister little subset. I think it'll fade, but it's, you might've been susceptible to that when you were younger. Uh, i mean probably like at least from watching it i think everyone's susceptible to it we can look back and be wouldn't have done it but like and i'm watching my kids are on vacation we we just took a nice trip and we we're doing all this cool shit they were like so tired after going on vacation with me because i got them just moving like all the time but you know i'm watching them watch youtube and shit and like i don't what's why would we not have been susceptible to any of this crap of course we would have right
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Yeah, we we would have, of course, we'd have tried to fit into the culture because now you need those references to even fit in. You need to watch certain videos. Tell me about it, dude. You should see my stand-up act.
00:09:00
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Like I'm doing right Reagan jokes. I'm so out of touch. ah Dude. what I have to say, like right now my 12-year-old's into drumming and rock club.
00:09:11
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climbing, bouldering. And so, and key Keen and Peel videos. Yeah. And it'll just pump through our thread. but it's So it's not like a bad thing, but he's watching like Drumeo all the time.
00:09:22
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it's It'll be like where we talked about before the show. It'll be like the drummer of one ah of Chili Peppers talking about how great ah Neil Peart is or you know whatever. and then and then he And then I turned him on to PMP or whatever it is because it's so fucking funny.
00:09:39
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So he watches that a lot. But like... but you know even in that sense the algorithm whatever is good because it's like keeps giving him shit that he likes but it's keeping him there he can he could watch youtube for days on end and i and so could i honestly if it's like something like but i just can't like i will say this like i don't think i think you're the same way when i say we all would have been susceptible to it i can't really sit still for like even if the algorithm's pumping i'm like after 20 minutes i so i'm like i can't do it even if it's the best shit ever it's like comedy like a guy telling jokes surfing
00:10:12
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It's like Richard Pryor on a surfboard. And I'm like, I got I'm like doing big waves. Yeah. No, I can barely get through this podcast. I like just hate sitting. Right.
00:10:22
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So, but that seems to have gone away. My Luka definitely is a spaz. So he needs to do shit. My, my daughter, she could go, you know, and they're like the full range of kids is, is what like in both ways. I mean, they're both pretty active, but she can, could probably sit there for 16 hours comfortably and watch a Netflix series or whatever, you know, that's a genetic, uh, malfunction, bro.
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i don't know. um Do you think it's a boy girl thing? No, I don't know. I know, but that was a serious question. and You think it's like, dude, like, got like little boys, 12 years old are pretty rambunctious people. Girls are a little more mature and more like chill.
00:11:03
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They are, but... Those spaz girls, is that what you're saying? No, I'm not saying they're spazes, but just the ability to sit that long, is it's a special skill. I not everybody's capable of it. I mean, you just think about when you're growing up, were you somebody that could lay around and watch movies all day?
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Or, like, I had to, like, get up. Even if I was doing that, I was up doing push-ups and doing cartwheels and shit like that. Like, some some people just lay there on the couch straight up. Different people. I can, like...
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meander, like pace around or something. I don't have to be, it's not like I have to go run and be running a marathon. Right. But I'll be fucking like cleaning or doing something stupid around my house. Gotcha.
00:11:43
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But anyways, yeah, I, maybe, maybe we got, maybe we're lucky because we grew up when we did, but even the algorithm doesn't seem to like, it doesn't take hold of me. Even, even if it's shit that I will say, yeah I like watching shit on YouTube.
00:11:55
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It's great. But it, does it like doesn't captivate me for extended periods of time. No, it's because it's starting to get old probably. It could be. I was thinking maybe are we trained because we're used to 23 minute sitcom like the Cosby show or some shit, you know?
00:12:11
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Yeah, we have some skills that our kids don't have. Like I just cornered my son. I was like, listen, motherfucker, when you go to college, you need to focus on being able to do long form thinking, which means being able to read a book and pace around and think about it.
00:12:25
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And you need to be able to like explain complex ideas to other people and you need to be able to listen. it So like sitting there trying to counter basically everything that their teenage lifestyle or their childhood teaches them not to be able to do, which is...
00:12:40
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Right now it's swipe, swipe, swipe, watch, watch, watch, watch watch watch stimulus stimulus, stimulus, stimulus, text, text, text, text. It's a shitty childhood as far as I can tell. So we have skills is my point that they don't have.
00:12:54
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We can catch ourselves, I think, to some degree, although the tech is really good. It it can get you. Spotify even is fucking with me now where it's, It's trying to feed me because I like these two old bags that talk shit about Trump and the Trump administration.
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And now it feeds me all this batshit crazy stuff. And I'm like, stop. can you farther laugh you mean it just It's just just Trump hating stuff. And I'm not really into that. I just think that these two women are particularly comedic.
00:13:20
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yeah And they're short they're short little things. the The whole system. is set up to be fucked up. And this is not this is obvious, not really a hard-hitting podcast content. But anyway, I'm glad I'm out of that range where I have to pay attention to it. But it's on you now, dog.
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I wonder what the... I
Generational Differences in Information Consumption
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mean, even... I wonder what the difference between what, like, your son or daughter growing up to mine. It's only, like, a difference in five or six years on each of them. But I think it's drastically more intense now. More and different.
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More intense, but also just... parents have a better understanding of the environment and what to steer clear of too and the school push back a little bit well no the schools do too but i think there's just maybe a little bit more protection from really uh terrible stuff i don't know all i can say is that it it felt like they did a huge terrible experiment on all of our kids And it's not paid off.
00:14:19
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I say anxiety rates are through the roof. The addiction and impulse issues are through the roof. And I'm not going to say it's a single source, and but but I imagine that's a huge contributor. So,
00:14:32
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I know I get, I'm anxious. I get a like right now that like my taxes, there's some, my accountant is actually in Colorado said, screwed something up in my opinion. don't think he agrees, but like I should be getting this like foreign income, foreign tax credit. And I realized he hadn't done it the last couple years.
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But I know it'll get resolved, but I get anxious like, ah, this is an unresolved open issue. We talked about it before. I have a feeling that because everything is so quick and accessible that that that whole generation younger generation are going to be a mess if anything doesn't happen immediately.
00:15:06
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Like because they don't have to wait for anything ever. Talk to their friends, communicate. like That's fascinating actually. We think about all the levels. Because I have the same thing where I have developed this...
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intensity around needing to resolve things as soon as possible. Like I was trying to make some, make some trades in the, uh, or trade some ETFs. And it's just like, Oh, it was this rule ah needs to settle. Oh, it needs to settle. Why isn't settled or whatever? Why isn't it, why didn't execute? It doesn't matter what it is, but the tax thing will get me. I've had that before where there's like some thing left undone. And I'm, I'm thinking about the kids, uh,
00:15:41
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When we're trying to check in with them, because we're like maybe worried like a parent might get about whatever the situation is, you know if they don't respond right away or they don't respond within a certain time, you start freaking.
00:15:53
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And none of that existed when we were younger. i mean, we were writing letters. Right. It was phone calls. You couldn't check in with your mom. I mean, how could you, you know, like you could call them somewhere if you're close the phone.
00:16:06
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yeah right it's Yeah, it's created a whole whole level of anxiety that I'm wondering if maybe they'll be fine with it because they're used to it. Or maybe they'll never have to deal with it. But like it seems like it's creating a level of impatience that's going to be it's gonna be intense.
00:16:21
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And maybe they'll just keep inventing tech that allows you to ensure that you can execute nearly everything. if you think of AI, right? Nearly everything instantaneously. So we won't ever have to worry about that.
00:16:33
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Yeah, that's what I should do. I said, I should chat GPT to fix my tax return. Because Richard fucking is too busy till the 14th. Sounds like you need new accountant. Yeah, it could be.
00:16:44
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Could be. But then it's like, oh, just an unresolved thing out there. I think for like a 15 year old, if they're in 30 years, they might, an unresolved thing might drive them fucking crazy. It might, it might happen. It already happens for people, you know, you know, you you know, people that are dealing with severe anxiety or or other shit could drive them crazy. Like they didn't know where their kid is or something like that. Yeah. They'll probably issue like suicide pills so that if you do ever encounter an unresolved issue that lasts longer than three minutes, you can just take the pill and die.
00:17:15
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I thought you were saying to stop suicide. No, no, no. Because people are like, have an unresolved issue. I'm killing myself. No, no, no. Just give you pills that if that happens to you, they'll know because they'll know you're too far gone because nobody will be equipped to handle any uncertainty or unresolved issues and they'll just have to kill themselves. That's very critical. pharmaceutical company, RFK.
00:17:35
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I think they'll they'll give you a little kit where you could do both where you can ramp up the death or or pull back the the worry. It'll just be like, which direction you want to take this? Just death.
00:17:46
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Just death. So good. All right. um yeah so looks like some texts are coming in that's my daughter i'm at the this athletic club hey listeners some texts are coming in matt's checking them out that's fucking sophia dude don't worry about the show she wants to leave with her friend which i'm fine with but i'm i'm handing them off back to their mom and i'm like ask her you know What made you wear the shirt? he's Matt's wearing the I'm a POS t-shirt.
00:18:18
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I've been wearing this all around town today, by the way, with my kids. have people Have anybody noticed it and laughed now No. No. yeah First of all, I don't know if if you, even if you're like speak English well as a second language, you might not just click in right away POS that this shirt says I'm a piece of shit with our two faces on it.
00:18:40
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Oh. it doesn't have the dots I don't know if that would help anyways but I'm a POS I just wear this now it's pretty comfortable actually but whenever I go to St. Louis I get fat like I immediately get fat and this this has got a little more space for me to work with it's a big one yeah would you wear it in the US um have you ever worn this out in public nah just around the house not I don't know if I might. the the the I would do it. The message is fine, but it's my face is on it. And it feels like little arrogant to wear a shirt with your face on it.
00:19:12
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Like it's a little too self-promotion. Yeah, it is a little odd. And I like how i don't I don't know that my head is that much bigger than yours. But what I think some many of your one of your friends blew that up for us.
00:19:25
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Yeah. But it just made my face look huge. I don't know what she did. Like, it is the actual picture. but it It is. It's blown up. But your neck is like really small.
00:19:37
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Oh, small? Damn. It looks weird looking down on it. Yeah. Wow. Riveting. We look like we're rank we're're aging well. Yeah, that's a little doctored.
00:19:49
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We are, though. So, dude, your boy, ah have you finally um want to distance yourself from your boy Trump? You finally go, oh, okay, wow, maybe I shouldn't have ah supported that guy. Yeah.
00:20:06
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yeah i didn't i didn't I never supported him. ah I think I'm already distanced by not like not caring. Yeah, not caring.
00:20:16
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You want me to care? Well, until St. Louis is on fire because you missiles are flying at the U.S. because everybody hates us. Literally everyone.
00:20:27
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We need, yeah, that needs to happen while not there is what, what I'm talking about. He needs a fucking chill out. on him What about the wood inventory? Even if all your partners die, you got to think about the wood.
00:20:39
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I think, yeah, we need to factor that in probably. It's probably gonna jack our insurance rates up um a world war. One of my partners is we have to ship another container next week. Cause cause we're burning through our inventory, which is a good thing. My, one of my partners is seriously worried about whatever's happening in Cuba. If it's gonna affect our shipment.
00:20:58
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Right. It could delay it. Yeah. ah I don't know, man. it's it's a It's just the sad state that the world's in.
00:21:08
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But let me ask you this, because you you were often sort of, I don't know if you were playing devil's advocate over the years, but you were kind of giving counter opinions and, well, don't you think? So you're giving me a bunch of don't you thinks.
00:21:21
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And I'm curious if like that is, you pretty much have exhausted that by what you've witnessed ma that from this motherfucker. Is there any part of you that can go, well, you got to admit ah with this guy anymore?
00:21:36
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Probably. There's probably something? Well, you could make a whatever. I i ran. But you. But you. Actually, something you believe in. Not parroting some dipshit.
00:21:48
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I don't. There's no dipshit. There's no. I'm the dipshit. Who am I listening to? I don't know. There's no dipshit, dude. I'm not listening anything. I mean, yeah, it's it seems like he might be starting to dig himself in the holes he can't get out of.
00:22:04
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Yeah. Okay. All right. point But like, I just don't think what you're talking about matters to him or his supporters. Like you think that he cares or any of them care that if the rest of the world's pissed at us for going to war, it's that that's where I'm like, well, it's not even a relevant argument because he doesn't fucking care.
00:22:23
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It's not an argument to convince him or his dipshit supporters who are probably the dumbest people on the planet. It's not that. It's more of, do we ah we all have to start to acknowledge the potential aftermath in terms of how the the world views us, in terms of how we view ourselves.
00:22:40
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I think the only thing you have to worry about as as a non-believer is is what he's doing going to affect, I guess it starts with me. Is this going to, know, would this actually get me to vote against him?
00:22:52
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is or is it Is there going to be enough is it going to enough people in the next election that will vote against that that party? And then is the is the party that's trying to take over actually going to come to the table with somebody who's worth the shit?
00:23:06
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At this point, though. Damn, dude. Someone just fucking went full-blown cologne, like 30 feet away from me cologne. Like wow real Latin Eastern block.
00:23:18
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Okay. Stop. We'll ignore that. Just keep smelling it. I wish we weren't on this serious topic, dude. I would riff on that for nine minutes. I know you would. You can write bit. Wait, wait, wait. Is that going to happen?
00:23:32
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Yeah, but my question to you is, does it even matter? to me who Who from the other side would be running if if a logical person might say right now, I don't care, i just want this chaos and this absurdity out of our government.
00:23:49
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but It must, though, because you're not, are you 100% confident that it's it's the needle's been moved enough or there's no possible way that essentially anyone involved with Trump could win another election? No, not necessarily, but I mean, it's... You're just talking about 60% of are idiots.
00:24:06
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It's getting worse and worse, though. Like when you start to look at the behavior and sort of what they're supporting, I think it's getting worse and worse. And this is obviously it's through polling.
00:24:17
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But um I would just imagine that your average person would look at these things. So the farmers in Iowa that, you know, vote almost exclusively for Trump or the farmers in any of those Midwestern states, they're getting completely obliterated by his actions, not only the tariffs, but the war in Iran and rising prices and so forth.
00:24:38
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I did tell you, i saw i saw it happen last election, the way he handled his, the way he'd talk about COVID and all that shit. And that i so i saw push a few people that were at least Republicans and just be like, I i can't vote for that guy.
00:24:51
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Family members, whatever. i I did watch a little bit ah of what he like what he's been saying about Iran and it seems like nonsense in a way.
00:25:03
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Yeah, he's deteriorating. And so I don't know what that means for the future of that type of republicanism. But I would say a lot of people who, if they are ah informationally curious, would go, fuck, anything but that is what I'm saying.
00:25:20
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they You're not if there yet, you know. No, I just think if the other side, you're like, doesn't matter if anyone runs against them, they should win. Well, somebody, like let's say it's J.D. Vance in in four years or three years, he's going to,
00:25:32
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if If it keeps going like this, he will separate himself from some of the the crazy shit and he still will be a relevant candidate. No, I was talking specifically about you. Will you rally to vote against...
00:25:44
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whatever well i'd say right now two things one of two things could happen one i won't perceive the other person as a as as relevant and so then i won't vote at all or i'll vote the other way if if it was today i would vote probably democrats i mean obviously if who they you have to see who who they pick disappointed in you somebody will but somebody will it's going to be hard it'll be even hard for someone like me because someone's gonna the next the next Republican candidate assuming it's not Trump will start to distance themselves when it comes the election time they'll be like Trump's been great I want to move this thing forward and they'll start to like have that a little a message of change and you'll go that's appealing it depends who it is what the message is okay
00:26:30
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So you're a Republican? No, i'm I'm up for the taking. Well, I'm registered Democrat, I think. i don't even remember. right. Well, interesting. Now I lose so much respect for you every fucking episode.
00:26:42
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God damn. you will you think it's You think the answer should be blindly that you have to go the other way? No, I think that, no, not no not in a normal in a normal world. But I think that if, and I know you're not paying attention to a lot of this stuff. Well, more than I have because war is pretty interesting.
00:27:01
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Yeah, I just think the attacks on the Constitution, the attacks on American citizens, the brutality and cruelty for which we're going after immigrants, the war, the disrespect to our allies, and and on and on and on, not even the personal behavior and some of the racism and everything else that they do.
00:27:22
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I think at some point you go, I don't want to be a part of that. don't want my country to be a part of that. That's an embarrassment. I don't see how you would like a guy like JD Vance or or Marco Rubio can distance himself from what they participated in.
00:27:35
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So I just don't see it. But that's me. But you seen you've seen it too with probably people that maybe not. you' say no People you might like or family members or or friends or people that will still embrace a weird message and believe it. I mentioned that I was watching a show on PBS about like how how some of these movements came about and in identifying this the real this huge problem of immigrants coming here.
00:28:02
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when when When like Mitt Romney was running and stuff like that, The Republican Party, their initiative was actually like to be more embracing of people like that because they realized they were just being seen as like old white men and they were losing their parties. So before Trump and before this Tea Party movement and all that shit, the Republican Party is like, we got to embrace like Hispanics because there's tons of them and we need we need their vote and we look like a bunch of fucking Rockefellers.
00:28:25
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And then that changed. but then you see So so that it was like a ah fabricated message that all these people or these criminals are coming here and putting us at risk and But it's it's insane how quickly this is. It's more about like like a site so you know psychology class study than politics. Like people you know, people that probably have taken care of you in your life or me. Or you're like, how are you hearing this and believing it? And it's like these these market. It's all just like good marketing.
00:28:55
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And that's why it's really hard for me to fucking commit because I'm like, it's it's insane it's just see you're more uninterested because it's you think it's all bullshit but like it i will tell you yeah i'm not anybody who is a triple trumper i can tell you i don't have i don't have respect sorry definite sorry but is out toana la proma said don't delete that you might not we all be and Okay, okay i examplepo so okay i got a handle and isstein la mana that kamaas
00:29:27
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they always are simple on say size onlyly i the eones example down but Okay. Lunes. Okay. Okay. Okay. He just, he just, he just came up and was like, what's up? don't think he realized I was in podcasting. He's Venezuelan, dude. We should have him on. Yeah.
00:29:48
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he's venezuelan dude i said we should have him on yeah I'm sure he's a bango hat big fan. ah Dude, no, my my point is if you are a triple Trumper and you continue to be what I consider, you voted for him three times and and you continue to be duped in my humble opinion, it's very hard for me to muster up the capacity to respect you at this point.
00:30:13
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I mean, even there's that vote for Trump, but there's just people that are like, I mean, I even heard fucking Rogan talking about like, like, I mean, I've said it a thousand times, but like Venezuelans are are like taking over Aurora, Colorado or shit like that. I'm like, who's believing this?
00:30:29
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and And like every message is, There's shit like that. I mean, then you look at the war, you're like, okay. I'm like, you know, when you go, well, you can can you justify anything, Matt? And i'm like, well, yeah, I think the Ayatollah whatever was probably a terrible person in treating his people bad. then I'm like, well maybe that message might be bullshit too, like fabricated. Yeah. you know like is it I think this is what I'm talking about, though, is that the the the view from outside of the U.S. s is that our culture is not what it was and is souring to a pretty ominous place. That we're going to propel more demagogues, more autocrats, more low quality, poor leader types who are out for themselves. That
US's International Image and Leadership
00:31:12
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that our country doesn't have the principles it it it used to. That is what I think the last, whatever, 12 years has helped the international community solidify and also just many of us in the country.
00:31:27
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I mean, I 100% agree with that, but it's not at just a US thing. like the I told you, like the election here went... like If you talk to... If if if Lance was was ah a Costa Rican living here and you had the same viewpoint you have as some of my friends have that are more left-leaning, this woman that got elected president of those of Costa Rica, this girl, Laura Fernandez, I think, is is a bubbling idiot.
00:31:53
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who got elected by poor people that are that are dumb and like just heard her message in are like and are just stupid. This is what people would say. but Maybe not that harsh here, but that's basically it's like, ah it's uneducated people that support her because of her stupid message about safety and and the family whatever. you know yeah And that sucks for for those people with a different sensibility, but the stakes aren't as high.
00:32:17
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a terrible leader over the U.S. with its current resources, although I imagine over time everything will could get diminished, but it could get very Russia-like. But ah at this point could really fuck up the world.
00:32:31
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Well, I think actually we're we're saying the same thing. like yeah i think it's I guess I didn't finish the point, but it's bleeding into other cultures. And so you would be like, well, at least at least it's ah it's the U.S. s bubble of idiots like Trump. But i I think other people in other places are or resonating to that message for some reason. That might even be scarier.
00:32:51
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yeah you know If I told you that Obama enriched himself by like four to five billion through crypto schemes and other backdoor dealings, like but lots of sensible people would be up in arms about that shit.
00:33:05
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I agree. But. ah Maybe, i don' I don't know, though. I don't care. Obama's probably done well investing. Who fucking cares, right? There's no comparison. See, there's no comparison.
00:33:16
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No, but I'm just saying that, like, there's certain shit for me that I don't care. like You don't care that he pardons, he gets 50, 60 million from a Chinese crypto dude and he pardons the guy who was under criminal investigation by the SEC and he's done that multiple times? No, that sounds terrible. I'm just saying, if if a politician, like, ah we have, this is the In the U.S., if a if it came out that a politician made $100 million dollars on Wall Street, immediately everyone would be like, that fucking asshole. It's like, that's what we want to do.
00:33:46
Speaker
Well, that's philosophical thing. But what you're talking about is actual corruption. I'm talking about real corruption, yeah. Yeah, that sucks. I'm saying a lot of people like you and a lot of white people also throughout the country, if...
Political Corruption and Racial Judgments
00:33:59
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the black the black president did that the country would there would be guns pointed in the direction of democratic politicians there would be i think you'll see it happen with like like a small town like black mayors of people like oh there just goes another one taking care of his boys or you know like it it people are treated different like But, but ah yeah, I don't know. But that's not going to change. Like, I don't know if I need to worry about it.
00:34:27
Speaker
It's like this corruption. I'm i' asking you to worry, but I'm just asking you to to a vote with your conscience of what kind of leader do you want your fucking kids to... see on the world stage right now i just don't want to give the regime any more money through taxes if i can get richard on board here i'm voting for for matt i've already left the country i'm trying to completely protect my money from investing in the u.s what else do you want me to do just nothing i don't want you to do i just want you to fucking agree with me on all points uh but no dude that you should be sitting where i am potentially potentially
00:35:02
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i i don't I've never been a big fan of war. I realize it's 100% part of history. It's something that's it's going to be here why before us and after us. but i like e like i know it sound that sounds like a stupid, obvious comment, but like of all the other shit,
00:35:20
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You're like, ah, why is this fucking idiot going to war? Like, it's easy to be like some crazy motherfucker like Putin is is going to war. Makes sense. Then you're like, ah, no, it's us. Yeah. so yeah why Why are we doing that? You know, like that that type of stuff. I'm like...
00:35:34
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why it's it's just weird and it's 2026 and we're and we're still occupying small countries and going to war like it's fucking 1700 or you know you you think we've transcended this type of behavior you would think Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe. ah But I like your... mean, it should be the one good thing of capitalism. It's like, we don't really need war anymore. We just need Well, but it's exploitative. It's exploitative.
00:36:01
Speaker
I know that. And he's doubled down on that exploitation. But my point would be, like, that would have been a good bit, actually. Like, I'm not a big fan of war. ah i think it's a good starting bit. And, you know, I don't like the killing. I don't like the killing.
00:36:14
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I don't like the, especially children. But it's, it's probably not, not everyone feels that way, which is fucking crazy. No, they want, want to spread their values.
00:36:25
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Yeah. Or are people just are so like, no, war is ah is just a part of human, human nature. It's, it is what, it's it's like the only way to have, to be the world power and the only way to preserve the American way of life is through war.
00:36:38
Speaker
Occasionally. That's, that's, that's what people would say. I mean, I just cannot get too worried about Trump. That's going to be the death of you. Last time I, when I was flying home from fucking St. Louis, everyone's like, how was it with TSA? And it was like, nothing changed. the Like St. Louis airport sucked.
00:36:58
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And then I, and then I would left. It was like, I was like, I don't know. I'm just walking, walking on clouds, buddy. I love it.
00:37:09
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i I mean, i I make it a point to try to like, when I go to St. Louis to to take in both sides, I mentioned this, I listen to the black news network or the black information network.
00:37:21
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And then I turn on the right wing bullshit and then the middle ground radio station where i'm driving her around. And it's so, it's not even that like you would not know you're in the same country. And so someone's full of shit.
00:37:32
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Which one feels to you the most? ah For what? Say the black. Say what? Which one appeals to your sensibility? and you see this is you You escape...
00:37:46
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no for you You sort of like put yourself in an um an imaginary like brain and not your own when I ask you these questions or challenge you. It's like ah it's a very clever way of evading.
00:37:57
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it's coming up with I can't say the black one is is just amazing and appeals Which one then? I would say the the the station that I find the most the most like appealing right now is is PBS.
00:38:12
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Yeah, PBS, not bad. It's pretty pretty middle ground, no drama. it's i used to have I used to try to write jokes about it. because It's so drama-free. It's it's like terrible. like they they used to and I was trying to write a joke when first made stand-up comic. is like The only thing they were talking about for a while was like the school lunches.
00:38:29
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it like Every day, it was it was like an episode about school lunches. That was it. and and it's like There's no drama. There's no viewpoint. and And we're so you not used to listening to it. It sounds horrible to have no editorial part to it.
00:38:44
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But I listen to that because but even that I would sure any fucking right wing person would be like, that's that's just liberal crap. No, they would. Yeah. But it doesn't come off that way.
00:38:55
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Yeah, NPR and the BBC are as middle ground as you could probably get. but but this the Black Information Network, is it's crazy, dude. it's it's It's like, as a black, you know, it'll just be like, Trump, fuck this up today.
00:39:09
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but But it's so like like, people right now are bitching about the price of gas. Even CNN is doing this. And, yeah you know, you could flip a switch and and oil will go down immediately. if they So he doesn't care. That's like, he could stop the There's no switch.
00:39:22
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and it would it would it already happened the one one day he came out and said i think i might end the war and and oil went down the barrel oil went down like 30 bucks or something well his speech like his speech last night it it's it went up another 15 dollars well it's like now and it's like 112 a barrel it's gonna go 150. well this is what i'm saying i think he might be slipping a little bit where like like last night he might be well not but lee Yeah, but he always had he always had the ability to like rally his people.
00:39:50
Speaker
You got my black inner voice going nuts right now, dude. like Usually he had that sort of air of Trump confidence. like i think I didn't watch last night, but what it sounded like is like he didn't even, it was just like there was no resolution.
00:40:04
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Like he wasn't bragging. Usually at least he's bragging how great everything's going. Yeah. Yeah. It was just kind of like, and so that the Mark, you know, as you know, Mr. Investor, the markets just, they would rather him,
00:40:17
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be a mess one way or the other, but take a strong stance so they can trade on it. Like he was, he's just rambling on now That's what I say, what I think. And, uh, I mean, I'm in that boat. I'm, um I'm more like a, uh, capitalistic wall street person with all this crap than worrying about humanity because I think it's ridiculous and I'm going have a nonprofit.
00:40:35
Speaker
so what are you going to do about that bitch so like you're just like all right how does it affect what i need to do like with your managing your investments or and then what what do you do about it like if if my we're shipping a container from costa rica to to the u.s and we probably have to make sure we enough money for tariffs and the ship might get stuck and because if he starts a war in cuba or something like it's like so we're like what are we going to do about it yeah so i don't know that's yeah that's how i feel right now yeah and i'll close on this i mean i'm worried about my investments dude i'm not worried about the loss of life in iran or i didn't give a shit about those gossens that were getting like borderline genocide
00:41:20
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I didn't care, dude. Just as long as my shit be going up, number go up, dead round people, nobody cares. Bomb them if you need to. Fuck yeah, bomb them.
00:41:31
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bomb them as long as my stocks go up. I get it. I'm not happy about loss of life in Gaza or Iran. What are you going to do about it Should I fly over there and start handing out fucking Perrier or something?
00:41:46
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No, but you would take a stance perhaps, I guess, amongst your friends and people are about war being wrong. And not just go, fucking oil is fucking me up.
00:41:57
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voice Voice that with your vote, right? That's how our system is supposed to work. right yeah Right. That's how you're asking from me, huh? Next time I get an opportunity. yeah Yeah. AOC, buddy. Let's go AOC. AOC. She's cute.
00:42:12
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She's cute. and and And she's not white because we hate the whites on POS. We hate the whites. POS.
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