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Scary Movie Showdown Part 2
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Hoch from Turnbuckle Tavern is on loan to us again as we wrap up our tournament to crown the best scary movie of all-time!
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Return of the Scary Movie Showdown
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Oh.
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We are back with part two of the chick Foley show Scary movie showdown we had to take a week off because Sheena and the kids head up to Kentucky for a long weekend last week But we're back to crown the ultimate champion before you go
Halloween Trilogy and Spooky Season Discussion
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any further. Let me introduce any everybody Sheena. How you doing? I'm doing good. Yeah, like you said, we just got back from a road trip from Kentucky It was nice seeing all the family but stoked to be sitting down with you guys and finishing this thing up
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Marco, what's happening up in Boston?
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Nothing much. We're rounding out the Chick Foley show Halloween trilogy we have going. We had the first part of this. We have the Halloween special for Open Mic with Gina. Now we're rounding it out with this one. I think this is the first time we've ever done three consecutive Halloween type of shows.
Holiday Transition Dilemma
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We got four. Remember me and Jordan did the Halloween characters. We really leaned into it this year.
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Speaking of which, Jordan, what's up with you, man? Nothing, man. Just winding down spooky season. Only a week left, unfortunately. You should be winding up, dude. Yeah, dude. The winding down happens in November. Guys, have you not been to a store lately? Dude, Christmas is out already. It's fucking Christmas already. This is horrible. I refuse.
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How do you think Thanksgiving feels? Thanksgiving's like, dang, pal. Once Harvest is over, it's Christmas time, and they're almost through Harvest, so it's Christmas, I guess.
Werewolf Representation Concerns
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All right, and once again, on load from Turmbuckle Tavern, we got The Hawk. Hey, everybody.
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He's been protesting and picketing for the last two weeks about the lack of a werewolf representation in the first round of the tournament, man. I will say we watched Monster Squad with the kids on Sunday night. And that's still my favorite werewolf, Luby, man. Two things. One, it was a lot better than I remember to be in. But it was also a lot more hardcore. I thought it was much closer to Earnest Scared Stupid. But it was pretty edgy, man. I was kind of questioning my parenting skills there about an hour into it.
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Some of those 80 films teeter on okay for kids and not, but it's still Halloween here in Indiana. We haven't made the transition to Christmas yet. There's stuff in the stores, but if you notice, they pretty much put the Christmas stuff out with the Halloween stuff now. Yeah. When you go to Walmart. I saw on Target, yeah. This year at Target, as soon as they were putting out Halloween, they had a single aisle that had Christmas lights and they were starting to just sprinkle it out there right as Halloween stuff came out. So yeah.
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They don't even wait anymore. It's going to be a little bit more meat and potatoes this time around. We're to give a lot of the background last episode. So we're going to we're going to get into it, man. Does anybody got anything they need to get off their chest or express feelings on before we start getting into some of these showdowns? No, I've made it abundantly clear about how I feel about the lack of werewolf. So we don't have to touch on that.
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All right.
Halloween vs. Jaws: An Iconic Showdown
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First, uh, first matchup is going to be Halloween going up against Jaws and Sheena. You're going to start us off. I mean, it's, it's a no brainer for me. Jaws is awesome, but you can't mess with Mike Myers when it comes to Halloween dude, October 31st, it's, it's his day. And, uh, for me, he's just more iconic. And especially since we're talking about the original Halloween, which is one of my favorites. Um, yeah, going with Halloween. All right. Hawk.
00:03:49
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Definitely Halloween Jaws feels like a summer movie to me Mm-hmm Yeah, I think if you had to classify it I do think Jaws is a legit It is a legit horror movie, but it can't touch Halloween So I'm picking Halloween and we get a clean sweep man. So Halloween's now back-to-back 3-0 sweeps in the bracket Jordan Marco you guys got any thoughts on this matchup? No, I'm pretty sure it would have been 5-0 I don't think we really needed to go through that one too heavy
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I mean Jaws is kind of like a hometown movie for Marco though, right? Isn't that up in the, you know, the Northeast? Yeah, but I mean, like Sheena said, you can't go against Halloween. It's like, I think Jaws got a fair, like didn't get a fair shake this time around. It's a, like you said, it's pretty much a summer time movie up against the Halloween, like no pun intended, like classic, pretty much. Yeah.
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Jaws had Jaws barely made it to the second the second round also It'd be it beat saw three to two in the first round whereas Halloween had a clean sweep on the the previously mentioned monster squad All right, the next matchup is Texas Chainsaw Massacre which got here by beating the strangers three to one in the first round and it's going up against the miniseries 1990 version of it going up against poltergeist which defeated poltergeist three to one and hawk you're going first on this one and
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Okay.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre vs. It: Classic Horror Faceoff
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I've actually, I'm reading Stephen King's it right now and I'm a hundred pages in and so far like four pages of the book have made the mini series. Yeah. That book is, it's very dense man. And it's so much, so much stuff they don't need in there. Do love the mini series.
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Uh, but man, come on, it's Texas, Texas. Chainsaw Massacre. That's one of the greatest horror films of all time. I say it all the time on broken VCR. That's the one horror film where everyone reacts exactly how you're supposed to react when you're being chased by homicidal maniacs. No question. Chainsaw Massacre. All right, Jordan, you're up next. Leatherface versus Pennywise. What are you going with? Dude, I mean, I've made it known how much I like it and Pennywise and stuff like
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I don't know what it is like just clowns. Everything about clowns is just fucking creepy as shit. So put a scary clown in a movie that's hiding in a fucking sewer and you're five years old right now. You're riding past a sewer and it just like scares the shit out of you and Sheena put all the balloons on the sewers and stuff when they lived in Hawaii like dude if I walked outside and saw that I'd probably freak out.
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This is a bad draw for it, though. I'm going to go Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Yeah, same here. After the profess love of it. I do love it, but dude, I mean, it's just it's not going to be Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Let's just be honest here. Yeah, it's cool. I definitely prefer the miniseries over the
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the 2017, 2018 theatrical releases. But yeah, Texas Chainsaw Massacre is probably my top 15, 20 movies ever, man. So it goes on in a clean sweep. Sheena, Mark, are you guys got any thoughts on this matchup?
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Yeah, I mean, obviously I'm partial to Texas Chainsaw Massacre. My son was born on Texas Chainsaw Massacre Day, August 18th. So I always wanted to have a Halloween baby like an October baby, but we just never planned it right. I ended up with a Christmas baby instead. But Brett's the closest thing I got and he's my Texas Chainsaw Massacre baby. So partial to partial to Leatherface for sure.
Trick or Treat vs. The Exorcist: Halloween Spirit Prevails
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All right, this next matchup, we got the Exorcist, which beat Midsummer 3-1 in the first round, went up against Trick or Treat, which had the clean sweep of Paranormal Activity 3-0. And Jordan, you were up first on this one. I mean, me and Seth kind of already went in on the Exorcist in the first sub, so it's kind of like we need to do that again.
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I know Hawk is going to get absolutely pissed when I pick this and that's half the reason I'm doing it. I love trick or treat. Like that's one of my daughter's favorite movies too. So I just do. I love Sam. I'm going trick or treat. I know it's probably not the right choice, but I like trick or treat better. So I'm going to retreat.
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This is like one of those years and like the NFL playoffs where you got like a really, really good team with like, you know, a prestige quarterback in there and they're running into some wild card. That's just got like hell on wheels for a defense. Come in and just, you know, barnstorms and dude, I'm going trick or treat and it ain't close man. So that puts trigger treat up to Oh Marco, you got the next book.
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Dang, oh man. This is tough because I do, off the recommendation from Sheena back in the day for Trick or Treat and watching that and really enjoying it. I've been really loving it.
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to what was it? What are we doing? The Exorcist, the Exorcist, where it's like it's been around pretty much my whole life. And it's still something that's being, you know, obviously the new movie is not that great, but it still has some type of like, you know, folklore. There's still, you know, those creepy things surrounding it when it was first made, all the all the happenings and all that stuff. So I think that gives it for me a little bit of edge.
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Because of the, you know, the craziness that's happened around the movie and the people involved with it. So, man, I'm going to go, I'm going to go with Exorcist. Let's, I'm going to stick it out. All right. Linda Blair mounting to come back. Sheena, you're up game four. Yeah. Um, the Exorcist is awesome. It's iconic. It's a classic horror film.
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but I'm going with Trick or Treat. Trick or Treat is a movie that I watch every single year without fail. It's just, I don't know. I love the fact that it kind of came out and didn't have any buzz around it and then became- It didn't even come out. It was straight to DVD. Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, it came out into existence. And then it just became like this kind of like, you know, niche following. And then it kind of got this cult following. And yeah, it just puts me in the mood for Halloween because it's a Halloween movie. It's not just a horror movie. It's around Halloween night.
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So yeah, going with trigger treatment. Sam goes on. Tell us how bad we messed this one up.
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Well on when we do broken VCR we do the silver screen seven and I make a point of saying this These are our top seven favorite of whatever we're doing and not the absolute best So we're trying to do best horror film of all time. You guys are insane Because there's no world where trick-or-treat touches the exorcist and even for my taste I think you guys are I don't even want to use the word insane. It's I almost wanted to say dumb and
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We brought you yeah, we're definitely got more like the popcorn vibe we brought you here to give us You know the the the cinema aficionado point of view
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I know all about having nostalgia for films that aren't good. Like I contend that John Hughes is I think the great outdoors is the best movie he ever wrote. Oh, exactly. Regardless of every John Hughes movie that's been made. Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, all that. I love great outdoors. So I do get that. That's why I'm cutting you some slack. But there's no world where trick or treat is better than The Exorcist.
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see that's what you know I kind of I kind of alluded to it at the beginning on our first episode is like we didn't really set strict parameters around what we what the judging criteria was for for this bracket so it is kind of just like a gut vibe like in the moment what you're feeling so yeah sometimes it's my favorite sometimes I'm like well the cultural relevance
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You can get very specific. I mean horror is such a huge Genre with so many subs subs genres that I think I mean you can have a bracket like you know You can make like a hundred different brackets for for horror films in general So yeah, we're just kind of we're kind of just flying by the seat of our pants here But yeah, I can't wait to see who trick-or-treats up against next round. Are they already there? Did we already just declare the winner of the whole thing? Yeah
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It's gonna be Sam against Mike Myers in the end I think it's gonna come down to Ghostface maybe a little you know, he may be All right moving on to the next matchup we got Freddy Krueger nightmare on Elm Street it defeated it follows by a score of three zip first round and
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And then we have The Thing, which beat Evil Dead 3-0 first round.
The Thing vs. Freddy Krueger: A Split Decision
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So let me check. All right, I'm going first on this one. I'll go The Thing, man. I told you guys before, I'm not a huge Freddy Krueger fan. I think that if I had to go watch either one of these right now, I'd pick The Thing easily. And it is Marco, you're up next. Man, this one's actually really tough. Because I do love Nightmare on Elm Street.
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Love the thing too as well because I already said I think I said this on the last episode. I'm Kurt Russell mark So I'm going with the thing just just because of that and that movie's amazing as well special effects I think I said this the last time ahead of its time when it comes to when it comes to You know the special effects treatment during the 80s. So yeah, we're going we're going thing All right, the things got Freddy Krueger on the ropes, you know, you're up next
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I'm going with my man Freddy and going with Mr. Knife Fingers. Yeah. I just think for a movie that he only starred in for like, you know, three minutes total screen time or something crazy like that. He just, he just evoked such fear in people and just became such a cultural phenomenon off of that. So, and the fact that, you know, this guy can attack you in your dreams. I think that's pretty damn scary because everybody's got to sleep, you know? So I'm going with Freddy.
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Alright, two to one. Hawk. This is a really tough one. I feel like this should be a final four match up or something in the seating. It's a good one. Yeah, for this to be so early. So, like I said on the first episode, I consider Nightmare on Elm Street high art and that's the movie I'd put in a time capsule if you wanted to show future generations the 1980s. But man, it's tough because the thing's one of the greatest horror films of all time and it's Kurt Russell. It's John Carpenter.
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Wow. Upset special, man. Jordan, what's your thoughts on that is the thing eliminates Nightmare on Elm Street? A little surprising. The first Nightmare on Elm Street is not my favorite one. So it's not like the end of the world for me. And I like the thing a lot. It's a good movie. So I was going to go the thing as well. So it wouldn't have mattered in the end. OK.
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Good matchup
Blair Witch Project vs. Devil's Rejects: Style vs. Impact
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coming up here. We got the Devil's Rejects, who got here by defeating Friday the 13th, part two, three to one, going up against Blair Witch Project, which swept another Rob Zombie film, three zeroes. Can Blair Witch keep crushing Rob Zombie here? Marco, you're up first. Man. Ooh, this is a tough one.
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Man, why'd you put me in the spot? You might have to skip me for this one. I'm gonna have to think a little bit more about this. You gotta pick, dude. Dang. Talk us through it. What's got you hung up on it, man?
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Blair Witch, it's one of those, for me anyway, one of those like culturally significant movies that kind of like changed, you know, for horror anyway too, like, cause you know, horror doesn't really go over that many, you know, as far as like genre changes and, you know, reboots essentially of like, you know, a scary movie. Scream, which kind of like, you know, reshaped the way we've seen horror movies.
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I think it changed a lot of marketing too. I mean, it was all the first movies that really made heavy use of the internet and kind of that viral guerilla style of marketing. Yeah. Was the movie, I mean, looking back, was it like the greatest movie? No. But if we're going by at the time, just like you want to talk about with Nightmare on Elm Street and Freddy Krueger not being in the movie, you don't even see the Blair Witch.
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Yeah, I was I was like the whole movie is literally just like meandering through the woods and I was eyes wide open the entire time Yeah, I was like on the edge of my seat. It's watching this thing Yeah, it's a fear of for me with horror movies. Who is a fear of not knowing in the fear of not? Oh, yeah And that's kind of giving me the edge for Blair Witch. So I'm gonna go with Blair Witch for my choice. All right Blair Witch project takes a 1-0 lead Sheena you're up next
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Yeah, so this is tough for me too, because for all the reasons Marco mentioned Blair Witch, excuse me, Blair Witch is awesome. Devil's Rejects is just such a great, such a great film in my opinion. I love House of 1000 Corpses for nostalgia reasons. I do think Devil's Rejects is the better film, and I think it's Rob Zombie's best film. But it makes me wonder if you had never seen House of 1000 Corpses, would you still appreciate Devil's Rejects? Do you think it's like, you know, they have to go
00:17:07
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Hand in hand. I don't know. I feel like Blair, Blair, which project is a more standalone film where you could just watch it and. Appreciate it. Mm. I'm going to go with the devil's rejects. Wow. After all that, after all that, yeah, I'm going with the devil's rejects. I, dude, I love captain Spalding. All right.
00:17:34
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It was a moment. It was the 90s. It was the birth of the internet. The myth of the internet on the internet of the Blair Witch. I love it. I watch it. It's one of the because how you say trick or treat put you in the mood for Halloween. Blair Witch does that for me because it takes place in October because when they're going to the stores, there's Halloween decorations up on the
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The leaves yeah, I need to watch it again. It's been I mean, it's been years and years and years I don't know that I've even watched it outside of like maybe it's like a year or two after I saw it originally So we're seeing the theaters just being infuriated when the guy lost the map
00:18:07
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Yeah, like you freaking idiot, dude. A little funny tidbit about that, because when you weren't sure if the movie was real or not, I mean, you had a feeling it was fake, but about a couple of months after I saw it, there was a Steak and Shake commercial and the main actress, Heather Donahue, came on and she was the waitress in the Steak and Shake commercial. Nice. Not real. Damn it. Wow. How did they let that happen?
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I mean, it was before IMDB was it like everybody's fingertips and stuff and like you could get away with that kind of thing a lot more back then. True. But still, I mean, Hawk immediately recognized her, you know, true. All right, Jordan, not like it was a deep cut. Those three characters were everywhere when that movie came out like the award shows after we knew the movie was. Yeah. Fake. They were there.
00:18:58
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Jordan, we got Blair, which has got the Devil's Rejects, the Firefly family on the ropes, two to one. What's your pick? Come on, man. Last time we did this, I talked about my love for Devil's Rejects, Captain Spalding, Otis Driftwood. Like this is I love this movie. I know it's not like I know it's not like the piece of cinematic masterpiece that Hawk is looking for here. But yeah, I'm going Devil's Rejects. And to me, it's not really that close. I love this movie. This is one of my favorite movies.
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I never shit on Rob Zombie or his movies. You did not. You did not. I just don't think that they're as good as the movies they went up against.
00:19:37
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I get it. I love Devil's Rejects, man. I really like it, but I'll say the same thing I said. I voted against it in the first round. I still don't think it's a horror movie. I think if it... Sheena said it wouldn't be good if it wasn't for House of 1000 Corpsps. I don't think we'd look at it as a horror movie if it wasn't for House of 1000 Corpsps. I think it's more of a true crime spree type movie, something like Natural Board Killers almost. Yeah.
00:20:00
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But yeah, so I'll go Blair witch project to send it to the the elite eight sweet. All right up next we got night of the living dead Next we got the height of the living dead which Defeated final destination 3-0 in the first round went up against the children of the corn which defeated the ring three to one and Sheena you're up first. Mmm, neither the living dead versus children of the corn
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So for me, I think I'm going to go with Team Malachi for Children of the Corn. I feel like for me, that was the scarier movie, Night of the Living Dead. Obviously the zombies, you know, anything zombies is scary. But for me, Children of the Corn has definitely stuck with me more growing up than Night of the Living Dead. So Children of the Corn. All right, Hawk.
00:20:51
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Children in the corn. It's a big one for my childhood. It was always on cable. It's creepy. I lived in the middle of cornfields. So yeah, I feel like we're almost setting up a living dead for the slaughter right here, tossing it to the man from the land of the corn. Jordan had a living dead. Children of the corn. You really got to ask me this question like this is lamb for a slaughter. Yeah. Children of the corn all the way.
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Yeah, I agree, man. Kids are way scarier than zombies. No doubt about it, dude. That is a fact. That is a fact. Yes, exactly. I'm scared every day. An evil kid. So that's just kids in general. And you had evil kids into the mix. And yeah, it's pretty good. You're fucked.
Scream vs. The Conjuring: Cultural Impact and Rewatchability
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All right, we got a little bit of a sneaky heavyweight fight snuck you here in the second round We got scream which got here by defeating pet cemetery 3-0 going up against the conjuring which swept another Stephen King inspired flick carry 3-0 so scream Versus the conjuring and hawk you're up first I'm gonna go with conjuring
00:21:52
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I think Conjuring is the best horror film of the 21st century and I love Wes Craven. Everything because in the end Scream ended up kind of being a swan song. I know he did two, three and four and he did cursed and a few shitty films. But looking back on a screen was his best was his last good movie and.
00:22:13
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I still like it, but it doesn't hit me like it did in the 90s so What was the other one was it going against? For sure
00:22:37
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Jory, follow that, dude. I don't think I can. I think I just have to pick my choice because there's no following what Hogg just did. He picks his movie, says the greatest movie of the 21st century. He went on and on about the other one. Shit's on screen and then says, what was it going to be? It happens to me all the time. God, that was great. I'm going conjuring as well. Just a better actual scary movie to me. I loved Scream, but
00:23:06
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Conjuring is fantastic. This one. I definitely agree with Hawke on See I'm going scream. I feel like scream has way more rewatch ability I like the conjuring but but I could probably go the rest of my life without watching conjuring again We watched scream just last week and it's still hit man. So it's scream for me So that puts conjuring up two to one and Marco Europe. Oh man
00:23:30
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This is hard because it's like you said it is a sneaky Heavyweight match because you do have two movies that were Like Hawk said, you know, they're both like culturally significant to you know There are times where you know, like I said scream kind of rebooted the horror franchise and then you have the conjuring coming way later and spawning like a Universe don't forget about that. There's like, you know multiple movies under the I mean the conjuring universe as you know about it and
00:23:58
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But man, I'm gonna I'll go with screen because just rewatch ability like like Seth said, you can definitely pop and scream and you'll enjoy it. I don't think you watch the conjuring over and over again, personally. All right, Sheena, you're in the hot seat. This is this sucks. I just heard Sheena take a deep breath.
00:24:21
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Uh, I've seen a hate making any kind of decision, much less something as big as fence writer of all weird around in our podcast, scary movie brackets. Yeah. Oh man. So I agree the conjuring as far as like being just like more scary. I think the conjuring is more scary because the thought of like having my children in a home.
00:24:42
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that is possessed and just like, there's just wickedness all around that you, it's just inescapable is horrifying to me. But Scream is just so significant. And I think it just changed the way that we see horror films. And the fact that, you know, like there was this swerve at the end where there was like two killers instead of one. And you're like, holy shit, you know, and, um,
00:25:11
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And I think Ghost Base is definitely more significant than any characters in the Conjuring. What's the bad guy's name in the Conjuring? It's the freaking scary, scary nun chick. God dang it. I'm gonna go with Scream. All right, Scream sends a Conjuring packing. What a comeback. I know, dude, but the Conjuring, the Conjuring did scare the shit out of me, dude. It is very eerie and it's heavy and it's like,
00:25:38
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Um, yeah, it's like you said, it's not something I want to, I feel like I need to go back and watch again for sure. All right. Ghost faced moves on. Conjuring's gone. Here we go. This is the last match of the second round right
Child's Play vs. The Shining: Defining Horror
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here. We got the shining, which got here by absolutely robbing. Earnest scared, stupid, and beating it three to one in the first round, going up against Chucky and child's play, who took out Hannibal Lecter and silence of the lambs three to one in the first round. So.
00:26:05
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see here, Jordan, you're up first. The child's play versus the shining. I mean, if we're just going off like better actual movie, this is not even remotely close, but whatever you want to be. Exactly. That's what that's why this is what it is. Punching. Which ticket are you punching? Exactly. Which one do I prefer? God, dude, I like both of these movies a lot. I've seen them both a ton of times.
00:26:34
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I'm gonna go The Shining. I just, I love The Shining, man. It's such a good movie and just everything about it. Yeah, I'm going Shining. Shining is awesome, but I still stand by it. Chucky's the scariest character ever devised in horror. Chucky from Child's Play One, it gets no scarier than that. I give Child's Play my vote. Marco, you are up. Another tough movie. I'm gonna, damn.
00:27:04
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I'm gonna I'm gonna go with child's play only because Chucky still killing it TV show was how I never even watched that What was the remake of the shining call? Was it like was it the room number or whatever had Ewan McGregor in it? Did you see that one? Yeah, how was it I didn't ever watch the movie or read the book. I don't know It was pretty good
00:27:33
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All right, so we got Chucky, it's got Jack down two to one. Sheena, you're up. So, okay. I think Chucky, again, it's like one of those things, like I said with Freddy Krueger, he wasn't even really in the movie a lot. It was just like you heard the little pitter patter of the fee and just kind of like shit was hitting the fan, people were flying out of windows.
00:28:02
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Um, you know, and then all of a sudden when Chucky emerges, you're like, Oh my God. So it's like, I feel like for him to be so scary and to not have such a presence in the first film really speaks to, um, you know, how awesome he is.
00:28:17
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I'm going with Chucky. I'm going with child's play. I will say, listen, the shining, the shining, the shining is awesome. I think, so I do, I do come in the shining because I think when they, when Danny, like the little boy, when he was filming, they did try to like protect him from like seeing all of like the scary stuff. So like, I don't know how he like acted the way he did, um, without seeing all of the just like horrifying stuff. So I thought that was a pretty cool little tidbit that I learned about the shining recently.
00:28:48
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We screwed that one up, but what'd you say? I mean, that's a fine tidbit. I don't know what that has to do You have Stanley Kubrick doing a horror film was one of Jack Nicholson's greatest performances and you're gonna have the little plastic doll when and Seth I you're lying when you say Chuck is the Scariest thing you've ever seen on screen. You don't really believe that
00:29:12
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He scared me, dude. I'm telling you, I was traumatized from the age of like five till eight, dude. I believed in my heart. Chuckie was going to kill me in my sleep. What's more terrifying than when Jack Nicholson goes, he thinks he's making out with this beautiful foxy lady. Oh, the old hag. That's that's pretty brutal. The twins are creepy.
00:29:34
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Also just the fact that like your dad turns into like a murderous family Annihilator like that's pretty that is pretty terrifying, you know Yeah, and I like child's play. It's a fine film I'll watch it every couple of years, but it's just not even in the same ballpark as the shining It's not even close but you guys win. I mean, I still feel like shinings I said it last time I feel like it's more like in like the psychological thriller vein than like horror I don't think horror movie first when I think of the shining but
00:30:00
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That's not right, because it's a haunted hotel. There's ghosts. There's blood coming out of the elevator and there's a murderous psychopath with an axe trying to kill his family. Like, what about that? Is it horror to you? Remember the ballroom like these talking to the ghost of a bartender or all that? Yeah, all go like, well, I don't know what you would classify as a horror film if The Shining's not.
00:30:27
Speaker
It doesn't really, it doesn't get the jump scares. I don't know, man. I just did the, like he said, the lady turning into the old hag. I mean, that, I mean, it wasn't a jump scare per se, but it was gross out. It was like shocking. I love the shining. I think it's good, but I love the shining too. Child's play takes up much more real estate. Like in my, you know, in my, my movie, watch more.
00:30:46
Speaker
Hold on. Okay. So you just said the shining has no jump scare. We just watched the first child's play with Zoe the other night and she wasn't even remotely scared of that movie. Like I don't know where you're going with this, but my 10 year old didn't even think child's play was scary and I will not show her the shining.
00:31:04
Speaker
I mean, that's fine. I watched it when I was like five or six, dude. It's good. The shit out of me, man. So yeah, sounds like there's like titties in the shining, you know, can't be sure. Well, I'm not going to. That's why I said I'm not going to show her that movie. But it sounds like Seth's a bit of a pansy to me is where we're getting. I mean, he said you already got all you already got Zoey watching like trick or treat and stuff. She's already calloused to it, dude. I think Child's Play was like the first scary movie I ever saw, man. It was pretty intense jumping off point.
00:31:30
Speaker
I just, I mean, I rewatched it again and I just don't think there's any real jump scares in that either. Like if, if that's your going off point, I'm not real sure. Like, yeah, sure. If you're watching when you were five, like, do you think you wouldn't have been scared watching shining when you're five? If that's like the, the threshold for when Seth thought a movie was scared, like we could watch any of these movies when you're five and you would have been scared. Like if that's like the threshold that you're basing this off of, I don't, I don't know.
00:31:56
Speaker
Didn't watch shining at five. I definitely watched as a kid and I thought it was just more creepy than like straight up Just like you know, white knuckle scary, dude. So hey man, it would over Chuckie whatever three to one I didn't even go to a game five man, so Child's play reign supreme and you know listeners feel free to tell us how much we jacked this one up. Yes They know we mean fucking hawk at it, right?
00:32:17
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The scariest thing about the shining was Shelly Duvall. She's not the most attractive There's this weird 70s look to her that I love Now
00:32:39
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You don't even know how she could put that much weight on the frame that she had in the 70s. It is insane.
00:32:59
Speaker
All right, let's get on we're down to the elite eight we got nothing but a heavyweight match is coming up First in the quarterfinals we got Halloween which is a perfect record right now defeated Monster Squad and Jaws both by a score at 3-0 going up against Blair Witch Project Which had the sweet it's been on a Rob zombie war path swept House of a thousand corpses and beat Devils rejects three to one
Halloween vs. Blair Witch Project: A Legacy Showdown
00:33:23
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I'm up first on this one. I gotta go Halloween man. We've you know, we've we sung the praises of Blair Witch project But it's just out out matching a gun right here. So I go Halloween Marco. Yeah Halloween longevity Guys been killing it. No pun intended for for a while now. So Yeah, you put you put in Blair Witch up against the legacy of Michael Myers It's definitely definitely not fair to out to the blue to be in that position. So
00:33:53
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Yeah, I think I'm ending the season of The Witch here. Oh, nice Halloween tie-in. You're welcome. And I'm going with Halloween, going with Mike Myers, for sure. All right, Jordan Hawk, any parting words for Blair Witch Project as it hit the bricks?
00:34:07
Speaker
I would have picked Halloween, but I watch Blair Witch as much as I watched the original Halloween. I'll throw that out. So I need to go back and watch this. I'm you guys have reignited my my curiosity, which is good for Blair. It's the vibe. It's why you like trick or treat. It's the vibe. It puts you in the spirit of the season.
00:34:26
Speaker
Yeah, I would have went Halloween as well, because it scared me when I was five years old. And I was scared that Michael Myers was going to kill me. Much like Seth with a fucking doll, I was scared of an actual human that he killed you. It wasn't a doll. He was a serial killer. He completely inhabited the body of a doll. It was a guy that did it. Let's get it right. And he wasn't just killing. He was looking for another soul to steal. It was the Lakeshore Stringler, bro. He was trying to literally inhabit your body and take you over, dude. Thank you.
00:34:55
Speaker
Do it. Do the chance, you know, five year old Jordan, five year old Jordan. I want to make sure strangler imagine having a strangler coming after you. Yeah, I'm fading. Chucky. I'm hitting him over the head with a fucking steel chair and cutting his head off. It wouldn't matter. They set him on fire and the little fucker kept coming back. Yeah, he literally he literally jammed a blade into his like, you know, your incinerated arm and like, you know, killed people. Yeah, you're sleeping on Chucky, dude. All right. Let's go on to the
00:35:25
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The next matchup in the quarterfinals, we got Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which swept strangers in the first round, defeated it three to one, put up against Children of the Corn, which beat the ring three to one and then swept Night of the Living Dead in the second round. And it is Marco going first on this one. Damn, I'm gonna have to set it off right now. And I'm going with Leatherface over Children of the Corn.
00:35:50
Speaker
I don't think, I think we've said everything that needs to be said about it. Same thing as Halloween, just the longevity, the significance of Leatherface and what he's, him and his family have contributed to the horror genre over the years. I don't think Children of the Corn would step foot anywhere near that household, personally. Those kids would definitely stay away. All right, Shane.
00:36:18
Speaker
There's only one thing scarier than like a bunch of, you know, culty kids in the corn. It's being chased by a chainsaw in a cornfield, which I have, I've actually experienced that, um, via, you know, various, various haunted houses that I've been to. And, uh, yeah, it's fucking terrifying. So yeah, Texas chainsaw master by a mile. All right. Malachi and the children of the corner on the ropes, Hawk, what's your pick?
00:36:44
Speaker
I'm going to say Texas Chainsaw Massacre because it could be potentially the greatest horror film of all time, but I do watch Children of the Corn more where I catch Texas Chainsaw Massacre maybe every other year, every three years or something. I find myself watching Children of the Corn about every year. It's creepy, but I'm going to go Texas Chainsaw Massacre because it's masterpiece. Yeah, I like Children of the Corn too, but yes, not much of a matchup for for Leatherface.
00:37:09
Speaker
All right, this one should be interesting, man.
Trick or Treat vs. Scream: Entering the Final Four
00:37:12
Speaker
I really wanna see what Hawk thinks of this one, dude. This is the Hawk classic right here. Quarterfinals matchup, trick or treat, which got here by sweeping paranormal activity and defeating the mighty Exorcist three to one, going up against Scream, which swept Pet Sematary and then went to game five, beating the Conjuring three to two. This is gonna be Sheena up first. Oh no. Wow.
00:37:38
Speaker
This is tough because, you know, idiot me, idiot horror fan me, as Hawk would say, I love both of these films equally. And it's really tough because I feel like Scream is a more like, like just significant film as far as like its impact. And, you know, people, people recognize, well, I guess not all people recognize Sam a little more, but if you see a ghost face mask, people know who it is.
00:38:10
Speaker
I'm gonna go with trick-or-treat though. Like I said, I think it's just one of those that I'm gonna go back to forever and ever and I'm excited to one day when my kids are old enough to see titties to show them the trick-or-treat. Then there's werewolves in there. I'm not trying to sway your vote hawk, but there's definitely like... They are the last werewolf standing. Yeah.
00:38:31
Speaker
All right, Hawk, you're up next. First off, I didn't say idiot. I said dumb. I feel like idiot is intentional. We're dumb. It's not your fault. Yeah. So I just want to clarify. I want to clarify I said dumb, not idiot. But it's got to be screamed. Trick or treat. If I was putting together, if you said Hawk, make a bracket of 32 horror films.
00:38:54
Speaker
I trick or treat wouldn't even have had to have been on the narrow down list. All right. I got to pull something like no, it wouldn't even have reached the top 100. It's insane that it's made it this far. And what's your beef with trick or treat? Yeah, I think it's an awesome anthology movie. It's got great set design. Like it all takes place in one night, which I always like Halloween vibes are on point. Like what's what are your critiques on trick or treat? I don't mind trick or treat. I'm not even saying I own it on Blu-ray collector's edition.
00:39:26
Speaker
It's not one of the greatest horror films of all time. It's not in the top 32. It's nowhere near. To me, having trick or treat there is the equivalent of having Ernest scared stupid right now. That should still be in the tournament. And I like both of those films. I'm not shitting on it. I'm just saying it's nowhere near some of the films we've eliminated already.
00:39:49
Speaker
All right, Jordan, trick or treat or scream. Well, I wonder how he knows my answer. He's gonna love this. I'm going trick or treat me. This is I love this movie. Like, I don't know what we're doing here. I get it that this isn't for everybody. But this is definitely for me. I love
00:40:05
Speaker
I feel like this movie is for everybody. I tell people who are not even crazy violent Yeah, I feel like people who aren't even into scary movies Like if they're like I want to watch a scary movie or I want to watch a Halloween movie Like I always recommend trick-or-treat because I know it is it could fit for everybody like it's like it like says it It's it's not too heavy. It's it's a quick movie. I'm like all the shorts are like equally entertaining Yeah, there's like a weak spot exactly. So I feel like it's that this this movie is the movie for everybody and
00:40:33
Speaker
He cuts the whole team's Achilles out with a razor blade in his candy bar. What more could you want? Yeah, exactly. Everything you just said is true. And it still doesn't belong in the top 32 films of all time.
00:40:46
Speaker
Well, guess what, bud? It's about to be in the final four, so be prepared. Let's just take it to the final four, dude. Trick or treat's moving on three to one. Marco, where do you add on trick or treat or scream just for conversation purposes? I was going to scream. I don't think trick or treat's being scream and all. That's, like I said, again, being significant to the horror genre and what it's done. Trick or treat wouldn't exist if scream didn't make its debut back in the day.
00:41:12
Speaker
So I would go and I actually enjoy I actually enjoy the sequels to scream. I think I think they're all right Yeah, I think scream holds up man. It's for like it's soap Opry, but it's still enjoyable. Mm-hmm All right with our other controversial quarter finalist here first off we got the thing which got here by sweeping evil dead 3-0 and then and a little bit of an upset beats Freddy Krueger Nightmare on Elm Street 3 to 1 going up against Chucky Who beat silence of the lambs?
00:41:40
Speaker
and then take out the Shining 3-1. It's taking out the freaking best picture winners, man. We're knocking out Academy Award winners on this run, dude. We got the Thing versus Child's Play and Hawkier up first. The Thing. Jordan. The Thing. You already know what I'm going to do. Don't fuck with the Chuck, man. I'm picking Chucky. Let's see who's next. Marco. Man, as much as I love Chucky,
00:42:08
Speaker
I do love Kurt, so things making its way to the finals. Shane, what was your vote going to be if we got to the deciding game five? Give me the power I beg of you. Thank God. All right. Here we go. We got the final four of the Chick Foley show, Scary Movie Showdown.
Halloween vs. The Thing: Semifinal Clash
00:42:33
Speaker
We got Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Thing,
00:42:38
Speaker
and the all-time classic AFI 100 member trick-or-treat. Criterion collection, eat your heart out. Oh, gosh.
00:42:49
Speaker
All right, first up hold on do a beverage break before the final four bro, okay We'll get our thoughts together for these last three. I'm drinking a She just slammed down her phone on the table about that. I'm drinking a rhinestone rancher from Prairie Hills. It's a it's a green apple like sourberry It's definitely not the the manliest beverage we've had on the podcast, but it's pretty good It's basically like a green apple Jolly Rancher Shane. What do you get?
00:43:15
Speaker
So I have, you guys will be happy to know I do have an alcoholic beverage this evening. I have a smashing pumpkin. It's a, it's a mead. Yes. A pumpkin size or a draft style mead. So, um, it's got pumpkin, apples, spices, and honey. It's made in Michigan. Um, it's good. It's, it's a little sweet for my taste, but you know, for a fall drink, it's not a, it's not bad. It's not overly pumpkin-ing, which is great.
00:43:40
Speaker
Jordan. So I drank two different ones and I picked up an Alaskan brewery multi pack whatever it's got four different beers in it. First one I drank was just the normal Pilsner it was a 4.8. It was really good. And then now I'm drinking Juno juice. It's a hazy IPA and it's 6.8% and it is also delicious. Are they actually out of Alaska? Yeah, it's right out of
00:44:08
Speaker
brewed in Juneau, Alaska. Yes, what's up? All right, Marco, what are you drinking, man? I am sipping on a tequila sunrise, actually. I used some hard stuff. Wow, fancy. Yeah, some teremono, tequila, and you know the fixings. Shout out to The Rock. Yeah, shout out to The Rock. And there's a new wax figure that they mess up horribly if you guys seen that, which is pretty funny.
00:44:35
Speaker
Yeah, it looks pretty gross. Skin tone, I heard, was the issue. Yeah, it doesn't look like it looks like it looks more like Jason Statham than it does. Hockey got like a white wine spritzer or something. I have a 2021 Argentina Cabernet Sauvignon. Ooh, fancy. And then I have a little glass of vanilla chai tea and then a bottle of water. I'm just going all out. Wow.
00:45:14
Speaker
Oh, hock. Well, it's not raw milk, though. Oh, it's all right. It's all right. It's pasteurized, right? Of course. You pussy drinking pasteurized milk is wrong with you. But it's whole milk, though. So I commend anybody for not drinking the freaking, you know. Two percent. Two percent or skim milk. God, you eat real milk. Monsters. Yes. Whole milk all the way. Oh, man. All right. So first half of the semifinals, we get the John Carpenter classic. Jordan, you're up first. Halloween versus The Thing.
00:45:26
Speaker
Hawk is a man after my own heart. That sounds like a perfect lineup.
00:45:44
Speaker
Man, that's not fair. Oh, my God, dude. And I love both. And you have to let us know what what criteria are you based in the software? Because I'm just curious how this is going to go down. So like if you're just going like overall movie, I think the thing wins just based on like just the actual movie itself, the acting, things like that.
00:46:10
Speaker
But dude, like Halloween is almost the reason we're doing this bracket. Like, I mean, it's Michael Myers, dude, like this is Halloween. I'm going Halloween. It's just I love that movie so much. And I watch it a couple times a year, even when it's not Halloween. I just I love that movie. So I'm gonna go Halloween.
00:46:37
Speaker
Yeah, for all the same reasons you said, I'll take Halloween also. And I'll also offer a podcast recommendation. It's a limited series. I think it's only six episodes. It was by The Ringer. It's called Halloween Unmasked. It's great. It's basically a deep dive into all the making of Halloween. So definitely check that out if you need something to listen to. Not just the first movie, like the entire series, like the entire history of the Halloween Michael Myers franchise. It's called Halloween Unmasked, right? Yeah, that's what I just said. Oh, OK. Sorry, my B. OK. Marco.
00:47:07
Speaker
things on the ropes man you're up next man this is uh this is i echo the sentiments of uh of hawk when he was like this is this is not fair um not fair at all for the thing not fair at all for michael maria as you put these two these two uh
00:47:25
Speaker
Giants, but I mean the good thing is both John Carpenter. So that's not you know, you're not wrong either way depending on what movie you pick But man as much as I love Kurt and I said this throughout this these past two episodes Yeah, so go to Mike Michael Myers He moves on he moves on it's all right Halloween moves on to the finals Sheena Hawke reader when you guys gonna be a dissenting voice on that vote I
00:47:55
Speaker
I would have picked Halloween, but, and I'm not even saying this just be contrarian. I legitimately think the fog is John Carpenter's best film. So it was a battle between like his second and third best films. And I think the thing is the better film, but Michael Myers is iconic. Yeah. Do you think Michael Myers is the most recognizable horror figure or do you think it's like Jason or Freddie? I feel like, yeah, I mean,
00:48:23
Speaker
The kind of Mount Rushmore is kind of a deep cut Yeah, because I think it's easier. It's I think it's the kind of tougher to get a good Freddy mask to you You had opponent a little bit more money get a good Freddie man Michael Myers Jason and leather face were all three pretty easy to recreate I feel like
00:48:38
Speaker
It's I don't know. I feel like Jason's probably still number one as far as just like the individual character I mean you do have I mean Michael Myers is a two-in-one one, right? You have you have You know, William Shatner William Shatner. Yeah, Captain Kirk. Yes Pretty much. It's always double iconic if you if you look at it that way so Yeah, I don't know you might be right Jason probably takes the cake just a hockey mask is the easy one. Mm-hmm
00:49:06
Speaker
All right. Uh, the other half of the final four, this is, uh, we got Sam trick or treat going up against leather face, Texas chainsaw massacre.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre vs. Trick or Treat: Finalist Decided
00:49:17
Speaker
Don't let me go. Cause.
00:49:20
Speaker
I'm picking I got first pick on this one did Love trick-or-treat, but all good thing All Cinderella runs got to come to an end and I think leather face just straight up slice of salmon half right here So I'll go I will text a chainsaw massacre with my pick Marco Europe next
00:49:38
Speaker
Yeah, sorry, Sam. Leatherface is moving on to the finals. I mean, you had a good run, but you had no chance against that crazy family. And that silhouette of a man swinging that chainsaw around in the middle of the road will forever be scary in my mind. So yeah, sorry, trick or treat. All right, I'm interested to see this one. Sheena, you're up. Trick or treat, down 2-0 to Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
00:50:04
Speaker
So since I'm pretty sure the way this is going to fall out, I'm just going to go ahead and go with my heart and I'm going to go with trick or treat. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I love Leatherface. I agree that Texas Chainsaw Massacre is one of the best horror movies of all time, but my heart says Sam.
00:50:22
Speaker
All right, Hawk, you get to do the bludgeoning and the mercy kill here. I wanted to give this one to Hawk. I wanted to give Hawk a nice win. What's hilarious for you is wrong as you guys have been in this whole tournament and the movies that were left off, no werewolf movies. The fact that we're coming down to a Halloween Texas Chainsaw Massacre final, I guess it kind of wrongs some of or right some of the wrongs through the whole thing. But obviously, Texas Chainsaw Massacre over freaking trick or treat.
00:50:54
Speaker
Trick or freakin' treat. All right, let's go around real quick before we get to the finals. What's everybody's biggest, like, you know, missing the movie that should have been in the field that wasn't. Oh, you can go first, man. Um. I don't know, that's tough for me, because, like, I like the majority of this list, honestly.
00:51:20
Speaker
I didn't really have anything that didn't make it that I really wanted to be in here. Honestly, I know Hawk's going to have like 47 movies, so I don't even know why we're going around. Just let Hawk do his 47 movie Q and let him tell us how stupid we are. Let's say, let's say Hawk for last since he is the expert Marco, would you have been?
00:51:38
Speaker
uh let me see i mean i know we went we went for a lot of classics definitely a lot of uh things that have stood the test of time but um i would have went with like you know more of like the yo some of the you know mid 2000s horror movies we skipped out on a lot of those um
00:51:55
Speaker
Like the Amityville Horror remake with Ryan Reynolds. Yes, like that one. Not even Amityville Horror. I mean, that's a good call. Amityville Horror was not even on this list. We didn't have a whole lot of representation like pre-1985, man. This is a modern-esque.
00:52:12
Speaker
Yeah, I mean a lot of the found footage movies that were you know? Making its way during that time like he said after Blair Witch. I was a big advocate for getting the Maybe Terrifier should have been in it With the with art the clown both of those actually all three of those movies are probably like Jordan would have voted for those So good Yeah, he would art the clown would have like probably destroyed a lot of these
00:52:40
Speaker
A lot of these movies, if you've seen those movies, VHS, I would have probably put in there as well. That whole series is is amazing. Yeah. So speaking of clowns, man, I think Killer Clowns is one. I think probably she got some consideration. I love that one. Just it's it's such a fun movie. The effects are so cool. And then kind of similar vein. Early 2000s movie Slither. It was by James Gunn. I think we talked about a little bit last week, but that's another one that had it's it's definitely in like the horror comedy type vein. But
00:53:08
Speaker
A lot of really cool practical effects and just a fun movie. So I think that'd be my two. Shina, did you come up with anything?
00:53:13
Speaker
Yeah, I think, I mean, I don't know if you would consider it a horror movie or if Hawk would consider it a horror movie, but I would, I love Lost Boys. It's definitely a movie that I watch every year. I just think it's, it's one of my earliest memories. I think Jason Patrick may have given me my first tingles. Like I just, he's just the hottest. He's the best dude. So yeah, Lost Boys. I mean that movie was awesome. Kiefer Sutherland had both Cory's in it. Jason Patrick.
00:53:38
Speaker
Um, it had Tim, Tim, the saxophone man. I always thought star was like the coolest name and it's funny. I was like, Oh yeah. Star such a bad-ass name, you know, cause she was so hot and everything. Um, and then I ended up naming my daughter Stella, which was after my grandmother, but it also means star. So essentially we have our very own star. Sheena, I thought Ricky Gervais was the one that gave you your first tingles. Listen, I do love Ricky Gervais. Hold on. I did. I did think the one that we, different type of tingles, but.
00:54:06
Speaker
Yeah, Marco said to Marco said 2000s movies and I did forget one that I did want to be in here because I do love this movie. I would have, excuse me, I went a quiet place. Got Jim Halpert in it. It's just I love that movie. I thought it was really good. So
00:54:22
Speaker
I want to put that in here. We didn't we didn't put a hellraiser. No pinhead those movies Yeah, I like puppet master back in the day Yeah, but that's in the same vein as hellraiser for me though. It's just kind of like me one that was like phantasm or something with the little balls or that like, you know
00:54:47
Speaker
Night of the comet I love night of the comet. Oh, we're best night of the comet is a deep a deep cut It's very 80s and very great. What else Hawk? What else do we leave off man? I'm curious about Hawks
00:55:05
Speaker
Hold on real quick. I'm curious about the Hawks' thoughts on Hereditary because we just watched it recently. I'm like three years behind in my modern movie, Catching Up With Life. And I was reading like it's the scariest horror movie of all time, like yada, yada, yada. It was like one of those things that people were just so shocked. I'm really curious to hear your thoughts. I really, really enjoyed it and it was, yeah, it definitely gave me the heebie jeeps, but in your horror movie expertise, what were your thoughts on Hereditary?
00:55:31
Speaker
So here's why I don't like hereditary. And it's because it's to the real stuff, too real and too heavy. The family is very heavy. Like the family stuff is very heavy. I don't like that. I don't like heavy movies like that in any genre. And it's just too much real going on in that movie for me.
00:55:51
Speaker
Yeah, but I think maybe that's why people I think that's maybe why people were so just like Like yeah, it's not it's not a fun movie. It's not a fun movie. Yeah, there's no fun to be had Yeah, it's heavy for sure. All right. Well, I was just interested. I wanted to ask you but yeah, go ahead Hockwell was left off the list two glaring films not on this list American werewolf in London
00:56:15
Speaker
There we go again. It could be interchanged with the howling and for my taste, even silver bullet. But I think let it go, man. In London is the quintessential werewolf movie. And if you guys haven't seen it, how was it? Is that why it wasn't on the list? You guys hadn't seen it. If you haven't, go watch it. And I think I saw when I was like 13 and it didn't stick. And then it's one of the wolf out scenes ever. And then Dario Argento Suspiria is.
00:56:46
Speaker
Like that's a glaring omission I've never even heard any of you ever heard of it exactly not just got remade I think David Gordon Green actually remade it for some reason he's becoming like the horror remake guy
00:56:59
Speaker
But the original by Daria or Dinto in the 70s. It's one of the greatest horror films Suspiria 1977 And there is one other film that if I was just throwing out wild cards, I would put this one there. It's called a hatchet It on the honeymoon
00:57:23
Speaker
And it's a it's a Mario Bava film and it's a ghost story. And here's the twist. Oh, not. Here's why it's the greatest ghost story of all time. So this guy kills his wife.
00:57:35
Speaker
And here's how she haunts him. She's alive to everybody else, but he can't see her. So everybody else sees her, but they see her as alive, but she's actually dead. So he'll be out. He's thinking he's by himself. He'll like starting to hit on a woman. And the woman will be like, you pig, because his wife's sitting right there.
00:58:04
Speaker
It's so funny because we thought you were talking about hatchet and this was a movie that I drag set to the theater to watch and I was like dude it's gonna be so good and I think we considered leaving like
00:58:15
Speaker
One of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. We considered leaving like a, you know, partial way through the movie. It was pretty bad. And you know why? Cause I think it didn't have Robert England in it. Weren't we like, I was like, Oh my God, it's got Robert England, dude. It's gotta be like, there's, he wouldn't have just signed on for nothing. Right. And then it was garbage.
00:58:33
Speaker
All right, let's get into our championship fight. On one side of the ring, we got Michael Myers representing the Halloween franchise. On the other side, we got Leatherface with Texas Chainsaw Massacre. This is what it's all built up to. Marco, you are first.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre vs. Halloween: The Ultimate Horror Champion
00:58:48
Speaker
Oh my god. You put me first? Jeez. This is tough. This is a tough one. Damn, Leatherface, Michael Myers.
00:59:04
Speaker
Showdown of the century and these these two these two gentlemen are usually on those like if you do is like Royal Rumbles with like the you know Horror movie killers, you know who would win in a who wouldn't a fight right? Mm-hmm leather face or Michael Myers Halloween's made it here with a perfect record. They're like that the 2,000 Lakers rolling into the finals
00:59:26
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Texas Chainsaw's got the only took one loss against the strangers. Nothing that is rolling in prayer So we got one rolling in 12 and one the other over over know who voted strangers Think that was Sheena Maybe it was Jordan was that you to pick the strangers our text chainsaw Massacre Jordan
00:59:51
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Yeah Okay, so here's orange for Venus from having this battle of the unbeaten this perfect symmetry. So go ahead Marco Okay, so I'm gonna go
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So since we established through both episodes, these movies, they're icons in not just American cinema, but just worldwide cinema. So for that, I'm going to go with longevity and who came out first, which is
01:00:26
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the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. If there was no Texas Chainsaw Massacre, there may have been no Michael Myers. So that's my thought process. It was very hard, and that's the only way I can go about it, is who came first and who's responsible for this horror stuff. In a shocker, the Halloween takes its first L in game one of the final. Sheena, you're up next.
01:00:53
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I don't know this is really this is tough like Marco said I think one of the scariest things about Leatherface is that he's like he's immortal you know he's like a human he's not he's just like a crazed like insane person versus like Michael Myers which is like this you know entity you know that was like brought back by you know whatever whatever whatever
01:01:18
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I'm going and then you're looking at like a just a butcher knife, a chef's knife versus a chainsaw. I think the chainsaw is always more terrifying. So I'm going to go with Texas Chainsaw Massacre and being being like bludgeon or put it put up on a fucking meat hook. That seems like one of the worst things that can happen to a person going full like practicality. Actually, you probably got a better shot at surviving at somebody with a
01:01:40
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Chainsaw then a butcher knife, you know chainsaws kind of unwieldy and it's a good chance They're probably gonna cut that deep right away like chainsaw They really got to get you down and saw on you. Where's that butcher knife thing? Just bam one stab you're dead I mean, that's true too, but you gotta be you gotta be much more accurate like once you'd like saw somebody's arm off They're pretty much like, you know, they're gonna they're gonna hit the hit the deck true quick All right, Michael Myers a couple haymakers hawk you're up dude Halloween down to Oh to Texas chainsaw massacre
01:02:09
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Michael Myers is the more iconic character obviously and he is sort of mortal in the first one because I mean, that's true. Six times because that's the line. I shot him six times but it was the franchise that made him immortal. If he would have just going off the first movie, he could have went off and died and we don't even have that's true because they they cut back to the lawn. He's not laying there. He's not there. Yeah. Um but to me, Texas Chainsaw
01:02:38
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Probably I'm not gonna say it's the greatest there may maybe I like the shining better I don't know but Texas Chainsaw Massacre is one of my all-time favorites because like I said it every time we've talked about it It's real. That's how people would react and you feel it. It makes you very uncomfortable even like the character in the wheelchairs like
01:02:55
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He makes you uncomfortable before you even see the family. Like the characters make you uncomfortable. Yes, exactly. And I think I mentioned it in the first episode, like there's a few things that are scarier to me than just like an evil, like cannibalistic family, because there's just no escaping. Like even if you get up the stairs and down the hall, like there's going to be somebody waiting for you to just like carry you back down to the basement. You know, like I just, it's just horrifying.
01:03:21
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That's it. Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the champion of the showdown. I probably would have picked Halloween, but it would have been like by a cut here. I don't know. Texas Chainsaw Massacre is probably a little bit scarier. I just, I really enjoy Halloween. I love Halloween. This was a beautiful ending to the, to the, you know, the chaos that was our, our bracket. What was your vote going to be? Jordan, if I made it down to a game five.
01:03:40
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I go with the higher kill count and Michael Myers has 159 kills to 31. So I would bring in the analytics. Wow. Wow. All right. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Because you did rip on me for picking strangers. Don't forget Sheena picked trick or treat against a Texas chance on master in the last round. So it wasn't just me that kept it from going perfect. So Seth, get your analytics together.
01:04:05
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All right, so that is a wrap. Texas Chainsaw Massacre is crowned. I feel like maybe if we're all still podcasting in about five years, we should revisit this. Maybe we can expand it out to like 64 and maybe we can get the two bad chads in with us. We can make it all best of seven on the discussions, man. We definitely got to revisit this someday for sure.
01:04:24
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Can I use this moment to pitch by broken VCR because it fits right in here. Well, yes. Yes. On next Tuesday on Halloween, we drop the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. We're doing it. Wow. Perfect segue. We did not plan this out, folks. We did not plan it out. And I would.
01:04:44
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I wasn't voting just so I could do this either. I was. The two the two bad chads paid Hawk to come in like whatever you fucking do, make sure Texas Chainsaw Massacre wins. Yeah, it's like the rash in the Colts game, you know, they just. Yeah. But yeah, broken VCR next Tuesday, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Check it out. Well, I will see you next Tuesday.
01:05:11
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All right, do we got listener mail of course we do I mean everything was totally out of context I don't think so. You literally just said something won by a cunt here. So I mean, you know, I
01:05:27
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Go, move on. Jamie Wills, who would be the killer if the fully pod fam were the cast of Scream, and what would be the motive? Be Sheena. Did you guys not hear that joke? She just cut. She's a freaking sociopath, dude. And there would be no motive, dude. We would just all be dead. I don't think so. Because the PTSD from cutting heads off in war. Wow. We got dark, dude.
01:05:57
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All right, so hawks got like a dark version of like rambo, you know ptsd by uh kill spree i'm saying sheena just goes psycho and murders us for no reason I think it's like an ultra I think it's an ultra plot twist I think all of the members of the fully pod fam are dead and hawk has got the bloody knife Just because we didn't put any werewolf movie or in this uh, he's gonna he's gonna be dressed up as a werewolf Yeah, he's gonna pull off the screen. He's yeah, he's gonna pull off the screen mask and there's gonna be a werewolf mask underneath
01:06:28
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All right, what's next? All right, which horror killer would you want? This is from Sam Rosenthal. Which horror killer would you want to be killed by? Which I think, what are the hot horror characters, dude?
01:06:43
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I mean, we just, we just named him Mike Myers, Jason. I'm talking about the chicks, dude. I don't know. I mean, Sherry moon zombie is pretty hot. Yeah, I guess I'll go with, yeah, I guess I'll go with, uh, what's your name with baby, right? Yeah, I'll go with baby from the firefly family.
01:07:02
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I was going to say Freddie, but I'm not a little kid, unfortunately. So Freddie wouldn't want me. Uh, but it would probably be best to die in your sleep. I don't want Michael Myers or a Texas chainsaw mask or getting anywhere near me. So I guess I'll go baby as well. At least it'd be a good way to go.
01:07:20
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Yeah, I think I'm going to go with Jason. I think, one, I would be out at Camp Crystal Lake. I'd be in nature in the woods. And typically, Jason, it's just like a single, either machete or ax chop to the head. So it's kind of quick, kind of painless. And it's all in just one fail swoop. Marco? Marco? Yeah.
01:07:41
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I'll go I want to be killed in the werewolf 4G and trick-or-treat I'm gonna go about you Marco. I'm gonna go with Megan Fox from Jennifer's Body She has short thumbs think again
01:08:15
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Yeah, it's a thing Don't put thumbs in my eyes. This is the same guy what that was attracted to Shelly Duvall Don't forget as well Don't even go there when it comes to Megan Fox
01:08:40
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Oh my God. She does have short thumbs. That's disgusting. I got to look this up after I get done with poster mail. Zach Hertzler, horror killer, royal rumble. Who do you have winning and why? I would say Michael Myers from the 2018 Halloween, like that, the reboot of the Halloween movies. Cause he was just straight up snapping checks. They're snapping next. He was just coming up behind people and just freaking headlock and freaking cranking them. They were done, dude. Like he was much more physically imposing than he was even back in the, the OGs.
01:09:08
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Yeah, I kind of got to go with that too, dude. That's a good answer because yeah, he was, he was scary. He was moving with a quickness. He was not. He'd been doing like CrossFit or something. Yeah. A hundred percent. What do you, who do you have winning at Jordan?
01:09:22
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I'd go Michael Myers as well. The, the Rob Zombie one's pretty bad-ass too. Like that bathroom scene where he drops the teeth over the top of the stone, that girl's sitting in there. Oh yeah. That's who I was thinking. I don't know why I was thinking too, not, not 2018. Yeah. Seth is thinking like Halloween kills and stuff like that. I mean, he was still, he was, yeah, he was still like the jiu-jitsu and stuff on the, the new ones, man. He was pretty bad-ass in that one too. But yeah, I'm backtracking. I'm going to say I'm going with the Rob Zombie Halloween for sure. Or Mike Myers.
01:09:51
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Marco. Um, I'm going to go opposite. I'm going to go. I'm going to go Jason on this one. Jason's just a mom. Jason, your mom's in the entrance way. Yeah. Get your, get your teammate to hit his mom's interest music and he'll be like staring at the fucking stage for 30 seconds. He punched a boxer's head off. Are we forgetting this? I would just have like a clean off.
01:10:18
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I just have a photo that's photoshopped of me banging Jason's mom in my wallet, and I pull it out when he comes around. What about you, Hawk? Who's winning the horror royal rumble? It's the werewolf, dude. Yeah, of course. I would say it's Freddie if it's on his turf, though. If it's a royal rumble and everybody's dreaming, Freddie's going to take him out. We're all in the dream lane. He's just in the real world.
01:10:45
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It's a regular guy that's getting his ass kicked about to get eliminated in the light. Everybody falls asleep. No, they put a full moon up on the Titan Tron. He turns into a werewolf and just fucking wreck shit. But you joke about the werewolf would any of those guys had the wherewithal to have a silver silver bullet on him because that's the only way they're going to kill the fucker. That's like Jason's not going to. He's not going to know why he can't kill this guy. He's not. He doesn't even know he has to get a silver bullet. So you know what? I am going to go werewolf.
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Will have been hosting come out That was from Zach Hertzler this one's from TNT Tyson Neil Trevino best horror movie soundtrack I'm gonna throw this one to Hawk cuz I'm I really can't think Soundtrack or like score. Oh See, I was thinking score. I'm thinking like, you know, I don't know I guess What's what's the best horror movie music? Hawk
01:11:43
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You can go all things considered. What's got the best? What's the best music in a horror film? Well, Suspiria has a great score because it's Italian and it has the goblins. It's legit like that. The goblins are legit. Horror. OK, now a movie that we that people have seen. Some people have seen Suspiria just say, you know, no, they haven't. Man, I know it's tough, but I'll go with.
01:12:08
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I just watched just till dawn. It has a great school soundtrack. Deathproof has a good score. So I'll go I'll go just till dawn because I'm trying to I can't really put me on the spot. I can't even think of like great horror film soundtracks. Another movie that could have probably been in this tournament from just till dawn. Do the original Halloween has like one of the most iconic like songs ever in the score. I would have went with the original Halloween, honestly.
01:12:40
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Besides that one there's more than there's more than that and you just have to watch it All right, anything else you know I was gonna Google real quick and see what just popped up when you put type in best horror movie soundtrack
01:12:57
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The Omen, Psycho, Halloween. Yeah, Psycho is kind of iconic. Yeah. Nosferatu, The Wicker Man. Oh, Suspiria is on the list. Wow, Suspiria is on there.
Suspiria and Halloween Homework
01:13:08
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Nice. Look at that. It's great. It's a great score. Yeah, Wicker Man definitely could have made the list too. That would have been a good one. Yeah. All right. Well, cool. There you go. There's your top. Well, now you all have a homework assignment. Go watch Suspiria. I know. You got six more days, seven more days until Halloween, so go for it.
01:13:25
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All right. Okay.
Favorite Halloween Drinks
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We will watch the 77 Suspiria. Um, Zach Hertzler favorite Halloween themed beer or mixed drink. I'm gonna throw this one to Jordan first. Um, I can't think of the name of the beer right now, but it's like a, it's a pumpkin ale and I drank it on maybe the first episode we did. I just don't have any more in the house. So I can't remember who made it. And I did not dig into the archives.
01:13:53
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And I'm not the first part of the tournament. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I drank it on the on the first part of the tournament. I just can't remember the name of it. And they're all gone, unfortunately. And I don't have a spreadsheet like set those of every beer I've ever drank in my life.
01:14:07
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So I'm gonna go with our, it's a Phelps family special here. It's a cookie dough or dough ball cookie dough whiskey with cream soda and you toast marshmallows to put on the top and it just tastes, it tastes like a campfire. So it's not really Halloween per se, but it's super fall. It puts you in the mood to like cozy up and watch a scary movie. It's super delicious. I don't even mess with hard liquor that much, but yeah, dough ball whiskey.
01:14:34
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And cream soda and then take yourself a marshmallow toast it up nice and it just like just set it on top You don't mix it into the drink. Just set it on top and it just adds like a nice effervescence, you know I really got one. I'm not a big fan of like anything pumpkin spice or like, you know Nutmeg none of that stuff. So I'll pass on this one. All right
01:14:57
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Anybody else got a cocktail or beer? I just do a Sam Adams Oktoberfest usually in October. You can also go shipyard, smashed pumpkin ale. That's a that's a main based beer company. So yeah, I think shipyards everywhere but.
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Cool.
Congratulations and Halloween Wishes
01:15:20
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Well that wraps up our listener mail for this episode. So congrats to Leatherface. Yeah, Leatherface Texas Chainsaw Massacre takes the crown. Sheena hit us with some some closing thoughts and we'll put a wrap on this episode. So by the time you listen to this, it'll be, you know, less than a week for Halloween. So I want all of you guys out there to have a safe and happy Halloween. Enjoy yourself, eat lots of candy and don't get killed.