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FinalX Recap - Session 84

The Barn Session
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We break down the results from the Men's Freestyle FinalX best-of-three matches. The highs, the lows, the exciting matches and the thrilling outcomes.

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Post-Final X Event Reflection

00:00:04
Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back to the barn session, everybody.
00:00:08
Ryne & Reese
too tough. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Too tough.
00:00:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. We're living in in the wake and the fallout of Final X, where we had,
00:00:24
Cokeley Brothers
ah I guess, nine men's freestyle weights determined and all 10 women's freestyle weights determined for our world team.
00:00:31
Ryne & Reese
and
00:00:34
Cokeley Brothers
Greco's already done.
00:00:35
Ryne & Reese
no They decided their team at the open, Reese.
00:00:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:00:39
Ryne & Reese
They don't do Final X. Why? Because they're not good enough. They haven't earned it.
00:00:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, they want to determine their team earlier so that they can go take them to training camps overseas and just get them ready for Worlds earlier.

PJ Duke vs. Yanni Diak Mahalas

00:00:52
Ryne & Reese
This is all news to me. Well, they've been doing it for since last cycle.
00:00:57
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:00:58
Ryne & Reese
Yes.
00:01:00
Cokeley Brothers
This was the first year that they did it.
00:01:02
Ryne & Reese
No way. They haven't been at Final X in a while, I thought.
00:01:04
Ryne & Reese
I remember
00:01:04
Cokeley Brothers
Nope.
00:01:05
Cokeley Brothers
They were at Final X the last time they had Final X.
00:01:08
Ryne & Reese
don't remember them being there. thought they'd taken them out in the final X of Wild.
00:01:13
Cokeley Brothers
Nope.
00:01:16
Ryne & Reese
Anywho.
00:01:17
Cokeley Brothers
Anyway. ah yeah And man, there was a lot of great wrestling. um i
00:01:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. i There's like, there's no other way of putting it other than like,
00:01:31
Ryne & Reese
Rip the band-aid off, Sammy.
00:01:32
Cokeley Brothers
We had 19 amazing high-quality matches that were wrestled.
00:01:33
Ryne & Reese
Rip the band-aid off.
00:01:39
Cokeley Brothers
ah And yeah, let's start with the but's start with what we'll call it, which is the highlight of of the night, the the the peak of it, which was PJ Duke taking out Yanni Diak Mahalas.

PJ Duke Joins World Team

00:01:53
Cokeley Brothers
And... and
00:01:54
Ryne & Reese
It was the last match, wasn't it? Well, yeah, because it was only 1-3. Yeah. No,
00:02:00
Cokeley Brothers
did Did you mean to take Reese out of the frame? There we go.
00:02:02
Ryne & Reese
that was an accident.
00:02:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so ah the way it started, Yanni goes out there, techs him in the first match, and he's up in the second match, up nine to two And honestly, he would have teched him if KD hadn't thrown out, if Duke's Corner hadn't thrown out a challenge brick ah on that out-of-bounds exchange, where it could have gone one for Yanni, but they went two for continuation ah for Duke.
00:02:30
Cokeley Brothers
um even even that aside, P.J. Duke's losing 9-2 and he storms back and and wins 17-10 in match 2, forces a match 3 and forces a match three and
00:02:39
Ryne & Reese
decks him.
00:02:40
Cokeley Brothers
there it's ah It's a it's ah close tactical match. It's 2-0 or maybe 3-0, something like that. Yanni's in the lead. Dukes in on a single, elevates it, and limps his arm out to go overhook and dumps Yanni to his back and pins him.
00:02:55
Cokeley Brothers
um And personally, that was dagger.
00:03:00
Ryne & Reese
They drilled that.
00:03:00
Cokeley Brothers
That was a dagger. that was a dagger
00:03:02
Ryne & Reese
They drilled that. Right. Because i you've never I've never seen someone, normally when you limp arm, yeah, they go underhook. Yep. Well, Yanni normally when the guy's limp arm in that situation, when Yanni's in that situation, he will um punch his underhook.
00:03:17
Ryne & Reese
They were, I think, waiting for that because as soon as he went underhook, he went back to that overhook and boom, pancaked him. It was drilled for sure.
00:03:26
Cokeley Brothers
it was It was interesting to see that the positions that they were both ending up in, Yanni was taking advantage of at in the, in match one and at the start of match two, uh, PJ Duke would get to his two on one and Yanni would use it to get to a shot and score.

Transition to a Young Wrestling Team

00:03:40
Cokeley Brothers
Now, eventually Yanni shots transitioned into, ah head inside positions where Duke was using his strength and his power to counter. Uh, and then, yeah, that, that, that, uh, position that PJ used to pin Yanni and match three and,
00:03:54
Cokeley Brothers
ah You got a high schooler on the world team, which is stunning. And he did it in exciting fashion. And like, there's, you know, does it suck?
00:04:05
Cokeley Brothers
Does it suck to have a friend, uh, you know, be on the receiving end of that situation? Yeah. Uh, but it's still, uh, a pretty, ah pretty awesome moment for the fan base of wrestling.
00:04:17
Cokeley Brothers
Um, and it's, uh, exciting that we have so much youth on our team. like This is an incredibly fresh, young team. um One of the biggest you know ah points that that some people were making was the fact that we don't have Kyle Dake, we don't have Jordan Burrows, we don't have David Taylor on this team.
00:04:33
Cokeley Brothers
That era of senior level wrestling is is basically gone. Kyle Dake's still around, but he's not on the team. And so we've moved on to this young team. We've got what? We have One, two, three, four, five, six, maybe seven guys who are going to be first-time senior world team members or Olympic team members.
00:04:53
Cokeley Brothers
And I mean, I think they all still have a lot of potential too. So it's exciting.
00:04:59
Ryne & Reese
The potential is there for sure. um You know,

Is PJ Duke a College Athlete?

00:05:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:05:04
Ryne & Reese
i was kind of like not sure about real woods, but I'm coming around.
00:05:09
Cokeley Brothers
I... The thing that I like the most about Real Woods is how is how game he is for every single match that he's in. He shows up and he...
00:05:18
Ryne & Reese
it.
00:05:19
Cokeley Brothers
What are you saying? What's he...
00:05:22
Ryne & Reese
He's looking up the minutes.
00:05:23
Cokeley Brothers
Reese?
00:05:24
Ryne & Reese
It's June 27th. But today was his last day of school. Yeah, but he hasn't graduated yet. So he is still technically a senior in high school.
00:05:30
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:05:33
Ryne & Reese
But he won't be when he wrestles at world. So no.
00:05:37
Cokeley Brothers
but Yeah, but he... I mean, he he's not...
00:05:38
Ryne & Reese
A high schooler, unless Jack Forrest makes the team, will not be winning, bringing us ah home a gold medal.
00:05:39
Cokeley Brothers
i
00:05:44
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:05:46
Ryne & Reese
Interesting.
00:05:47
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. I mean, will will you, would would you call him a college student?
00:05:49
Ryne & Reese
oh He's a high schooler right now. I'm just saying, um i was just i was just looking this up because, you know, it's like, oh, the high school, senior in high school, yeah, but he's about to graduate. So,
00:05:58
Cokeley Brothers
Feels like semantics.
00:06:01
Ryne & Reese
no, I mean, when you graduate, you're no longer in high school.
00:06:02
Cokeley Brothers
um cool because so Because would you call him a college student? Would you call him a college student?
00:06:05
Ryne & Reese
I'm just saying, when you're when you graduate, you're no longer in high school.
00:06:08
Cokeley Brothers
I know. Answer my question.
00:06:10
Ryne & Reese
I didn't hear what you said, dude.
00:06:12
Cokeley Brothers
because you keep talking over me. ah If, would you call him a college student?
00:06:13
Ryne & Reese
No, I wasn't talking over you.
00:06:20
Ryne & Reese
Yes.

Controversial Calls in PJ Duke's Match

00:06:20
Ryne & Reese
I mean, yeah, if you graduate and he's enrolled, if pen I mean, I'm sure he's already enrolled in classes at Penn State. I'm sure they have him enrolled and ready. So once he graduates, he's a college student.
00:06:30
Cokeley Brothers
So you call him a college student and he hasn't taken a single college class yet. i mean, it look, it doesn't it't it like it does it doesn't matter.
00:06:34
Ryne & Reese
He's enrolled. He's a high school student on the world team right now, but he will be a college student when he actually goes world team.
00:06:36
Cokeley Brothers
It's,
00:06:42
Ryne & Reese
Boom.
00:06:43
Cokeley Brothers
Sure. Sure. But i mean, we do have a high schooler wrestling at worlds.
00:06:49
Ryne & Reese
Oh, you're talking about the on the women's team.
00:06:52
Cokeley Brothers
Nope.
00:06:52
Ryne & Reese
Who then?
00:06:54
Cokeley Brothers
Rainy.
00:06:55
Ryne & Reese
Oh, the Greco team.
00:06:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:06:59
Ryne & Reese
Yes, we do.
00:06:59
Cokeley Brothers
Um, so anyway, I mean, it it really doesn't matter what you call them.
00:07:04
Ryne & Reese
I got a question, though.
00:07:04
Cokeley Brothers
It's still.
00:07:05
Ryne & Reese
I got a question about the Duke match. Match to Duke and I.
00:07:08
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:07:09
Ryne & Reese
What did you think about that that call? That call they made on the out-of-bounds line? When they reviewed it.
00:07:15
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, they're going to know the rules of continuation better than me. um But it it feels like something that's pretty subjective. um
00:07:25
Ryne & Reese
What did you think? I thought, I mean, he's, he's going backwards out of bounds. He's going backwards out of bounds. So it's hard to say that he initiated, like he initiated.
00:07:37
Cokeley Brothers
Right. it's he's in He's moving in a tree. He's defensive.
00:07:40
Ryne & Reese
Right. Yeah. I mean, it didn't seem, I mean, I'd have to rewatch it, but you know, when I watched it at first, you know, I thought,
00:07:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:07:50
Ryne & Reese
you know He was on the defense, and he didn't initiate anything until he had already stepped out of bounds, which, therefore, could not score.
00:07:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:08:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:08:01
Ryne & Reese
That is technically the rule. so
00:08:04
Ryne & Reese
You can't initiate attacks once you've stepped out.
00:08:04
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I mean, i
00:08:07
Cokeley Brothers
do do you do you guys imagine that there's a situation where they're going to put match two into arbitration?
00:08:13
Ryne & Reese
No. No.
00:08:16
Cokeley Brothers
That would be too much, I think. I think I would.
00:08:18
Ryne & Reese
and They're not.

Yanni's Challenges with Injuries

00:08:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:08:20
Ryne & Reese
They've already wrestled the match three, so there's it's imp impossible. they You know what I mean?
00:08:24
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, but you you would just say they're tied 1-1. You'd re-wrestle match too.
00:08:30
Ryne & Reese
I don't know if that's... I don't know.
00:08:32
Cokeley Brothers
I have no idea. But i don't think they're going to do that.
00:08:34
Ryne & Reese
and I doubt they would do that, though. I i mean...
00:08:36
Cokeley Brothers
i It's not worth it.
00:08:38
Ryne & Reese
and umor An arbitrator not going to...
00:08:39
Cokeley Brothers
ah No. my My two cents on Yanni Diakamahalis as a wrestler and as ah a competitor at 70 kilograms is...
00:08:51
Cokeley Brothers
He dealt with issues cutting weight, which were, you know, he's still, he had still been growing when he was trying to wrestle 65 kilos and he got concussed, um, at some point last year. And then he had shoulder shoulder surgery.
00:09:05
Cokeley Brothers
So, uh, you know, listing out these, just these reasons as far as why he hadn't been competing That led to the situation where he wrestled the US Open. He qualifies for Final X. But then Final X is his second competition.
00:09:18
Cokeley Brothers
And it seemed like things started to wane on him just in terms of, you know, he hadn't been in a competitive environment. um And so I think the expectation moving forward should be compete as much as possible over this next year.

Over-Hyping Young Talents

00:09:34
Cokeley Brothers
And you'll be more poised to do what most people think you can do.
00:09:38
Ryne & Reese
I don't know but and don't know about as much as possible, but
00:09:42
Cokeley Brothers
As much as is reasonable.
00:09:45
Ryne & Reese
reasonable.
00:09:46
Cokeley Brothers
Sure. Yeah.
00:09:47
Ryne & Reese
He doesn't need to be getting like 50 matches in in a summer or whatever, and in a spring, summer, you know what i'm saying?
00:09:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I mean, if you could find a way to do that at the senior level, that'd be impressive.
00:10:00
Cokeley Brothers
So, okay.
00:10:01
Ryne & Reese
I'm sure you could. Tournaments are happening all the time all over the world.
00:10:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. What...
00:10:05
Ryne & Reese
So sticking with the Duke, Yanni stuff, or mainly the Duke stuff, I feel like we're in a situation right now that we've been in in years past, even with someone like Yanni when he was the, did he win? He won the US s Open in 2019, right? Yes.
00:10:25
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:10:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:10:27
Ryne & Reese
And what did everybody say after he won the US s Open in 2019?
00:10:31
Cokeley Brothers
He's the guy.
00:10:32
Ryne & Reese
He's the next guy. the next big thing.
00:10:35
Ryne & Reese
We have this, we're prisoners of the moment a lot with these guys. And now everybody's saying it about PJ Duke. And I'm just, he's going to, he's going to get beat again. He's, he's not going to make every single, I mean, he'll he'll be right there to make teams, but I just don't, it rarely happens where these guys become beyond Some people are saying like, oh, he's beyond a generational talent, which um don't even know. Is that a thing? Can you be beyond a generational talent?
00:10:36
Cokeley Brothers
Now...
00:11:05
Cokeley Brothers
No, dude.
00:11:05
Ryne & Reese
What is, how are you beyond a, yeah, great.
00:11:06
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:11:08
Ryne & Reese
I don't know. Who said that? Some Twitter guy I don't know.
00:11:11
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, well, I mean, I guess if you're beyond a generational talent, it's like it's it's not that this guy only shows up once in a generation. it's This guy shows up even less frequently than that.
00:11:19
Ryne & Reese
Once in a century.
00:11:19
Cokeley Brothers
And I don't think that's... Yeah, he's a

Comparing Wrestling Prospects

00:11:24
Cokeley Brothers
centurial talent. i don't know. I...
00:11:26
Ryne & Reese
Dude, it's getting so much easier for these high schoolers to get better because they have all this, all these resources, you know, all of these resources, way more resources than, you know, even 10 years ago.
00:11:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. yeah i
00:11:42
Ryne & Reese
We came up with a name. What's the name? A name for all these kids. What is it? The worst generation. Oh yeah, we did come up with that. I forgot we came up with that.
00:11:53
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, they're the worst generation. He doesn't even know. He doesn't get it. no He doesn't get it.
00:12:02
Ryne & Reese
my anime My anime homies will get it.
00:12:03
Cokeley Brothers
i Look. When I saw...
00:12:09
Cokeley Brothers
when i When I watched Gable Steveson wrestle, there was something about the way he navigated a match and the things that he was able to do to his opponents that made me feel like,
00:12:10
Ryne & Reese
Steveson.
00:12:13
Ryne & Reese
Sorry. Go back.
00:12:20
Ryne & Reese
gabel steveson sorry go back
00:12:30
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, but he was...
00:12:35
Ryne & Reese
Go ahead.
00:12:36
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. That made me feel like, yeah, there is nothing stopping this guy from continuing to elevate himself and just be the dominant force at his weight class forever.
00:12:50
Cokeley Brothers
That's what it felt like. And he took his lumps, you know, here and there. I actually, he took two lumps. They're both to Kassar. That was pretty much it. um I guess he lost to, he lost to Gwiz for a world team.
00:12:59
Ryne & Reese
Would you not call the Wyatt?
00:13:02
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:13:03
Ryne & Reese
Wouldn't Wyatt be a lump?
00:13:05
Cokeley Brothers
I guess he did lose to him. i'm I'm just thinking about like, I was thinking about like from high school to college to his Olympic title, like in that timeframe, he lost a quiz as well. um And Adam Kuhn.
00:13:17
Cokeley Brothers
But either way, like it just felt like a guy like Gable Steveson and even similarly Spencer Lee. It just felt like there's something different to these guys. And now maybe I don't think the same thing about, uh, PJ Duke because, you know, he's this, he's, he's a kid and I'm an adult now. And so like, I don't, I don't, I don't have that.
00:13:40
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't have that same belief or I don't know how, how else to phrase it. But I don't, when I watch him wrestles there, I don't, I don't have that like

Analyzing PJ Duke's Skills

00:13:51
Cokeley Brothers
it factor feeling when I watch him wrestle where,
00:13:54
Cokeley Brothers
It's like, yeah, he's got something that nobody else can really do.
00:13:59
Ryne & Reese
Well, I mean, don't know. He's good.
00:14:04
Cokeley Brothers
He's really good. i and And I'm ready to be wrong. like I said this a lot on Twitter.
00:14:08
Ryne & Reese
you Here's the thing.
00:14:09
Cokeley Brothers
like
00:14:10
Ryne & Reese
Gable was also doing things that no one else could do at heavyweight.
00:14:16
Ryne & Reese
And Spencer and
00:14:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and so that and and like Spencer was doing it at 125.
00:14:19
Cokeley Brothers
They were on the bookends of the of the weight class spectrum, and P.J. Duke is right in the middle where things can be difficult.
00:14:26
Ryne & Reese
I mean, and he won by the skin of his teeth in several matches on his way to this world team to, you know, to,
00:14:26
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:14:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and like a lot of people are a lot of people are saying like he's just he's just getting started, he's getting into a college room next year, and things are going to take off from there. And I would love for to see that happen. But part of me is thinking like, he's already, he's already here.
00:14:49
Cokeley Brothers
And like, you can, you can keep moving up, but how much better are you really going to get when you're already beating on trail Taylor and Ridge Lovett and Yanni Diak Mahalas, you know, where are you going to, like, if he just starts dominating them, then it's like, well, holy crap. Like this guy is, there's, he's moving upwards and there's no stopping him. Basically.
00:15:11
Cokeley Brothers
I just don't, I don't imagine that being a thing. and don't know why. So,
00:15:16
Ryne & Reese
and Because he's he's been like really strong. he Obviously, his strength like helps him a lot. A lot. And there's going to be guys at his weight who are going to be able to match his strength.
00:15:29
Ryne & Reese
And then it's just goingnna it's going to come down to tactics and technique and stuff like that. And don't see any i don't i don't see any reason to think that he's not going to, you know, take some lumps also at some point or another.
00:15:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:44
Ryne & Reese
And I don't, i mean, out how much longer you think he's going to be at 70 kilos? I don't think, don't think he's there very long.
00:15:50
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not.
00:15:51
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:15:52
Cokeley Brothers
He's not long for 70 kilos. No.
00:15:54
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:15:56
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:15:57
Ryne & Reese
Is he going to make the Olympic team in the 20th?
00:15:57
Cokeley Brothers
But yeah, I mean...
00:15:58
Ryne & Reese
Yeah. can he Is he going to be able to beat David Carr? Messenbrink. I feel like Messenbrink is a terrible matchup for him. Right.
00:16:07
Ryne & Reese
Maybe. I don't know.
00:16:07
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:16:10
Cokeley Brothers
Because Mezenberg's go-to shot is head inside. And Duke...
00:16:13
Ryne & Reese
Yeah. Guys that are strong just don't seem to affect Mitchell Messenbrink. And Messenbrink is great when he finishes really efficiently.
00:16:20
Cokeley Brothers
Takahashi, but that's a different... Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's the thing. Yanni gave the people the blueprint in match one as far as how to beat P.J. Duke. It's just for some reason the ability for Yanni to execute on that waned rapidly.
00:16:42
Cokeley Brothers
And I don't think it was much, I don't think much changed with what with what PJ Duke did.
00:16:42
Ryne & Reese
He's got
00:16:47
Ryne & Reese
bad exchanges that didn't go his way, I felt like, in the second match.
00:16:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but it's not like, it's not like every single time you get into an exchange, you have this chance of, of like, oh, it could go this way, it could go that way.
00:16:52
Ryne & Reese
didn't
00:17:00
Ryne & Reese
have that.
00:17:01
Cokeley Brothers
It just, it like like, he got in that head inside shot, and then he kind of just sat there. And then, so Duke defended it and spun behind him and fived him.
00:17:07
Ryne & Reese
Well, that was after.
00:17:08
Cokeley Brothers
It's like, we've we've never seen that happen to Yannick.
00:17:10
Ryne & Reese
like or those exchanges that went not his way. That was after
00:17:15
Cokeley Brothers
Right, but those like those are like but there were choices made in that position where Yanni got in on the shot and he he hung out. He didn't try to come up and split the middle. He just wanted to hang out.
00:17:22
Ryne & Reese
He was, he was, he asked, right? Yeah.
00:17:25
Cokeley Brothers
That's what it seemed like. It seemed like he was gassed and fatigued and, you know, ah the list of excuses that you give for why a guy ah looks one way and then looks another way.
00:17:34
Ryne & Reese
I don't think he, I think the first match, you know, he didn't,
00:17:34
Cokeley Brothers
So...
00:17:39
Ryne & Reese
I don't think there was any like, I think PJ Duke did not wrestle well in the first match, frankly.
00:17:44
Cokeley Brothers
No, see eight it felt like maybe the moment got to Duke in match one.
00:17:49
Ryne & Reese
Yeah. Cause it wasn't close at all. There weren't close exchanges or anything really.
00:17:53
Cokeley Brothers
There was no signs of P.J. Duke being able to wrestle with Yanni.
00:17:57
Ryne & Reese
And I mean, and then, you know, I think in the second match he, he got ah ah he got a call that went his way and that was just all he needed to get his momentum going.
00:18:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. but And then, so Yanni scores in match three, Yanni scores on a takedown.

Spencer Lee vs. Luke Lilladol

00:18:15
Cokeley Brothers
you notice the takedown that Yanni shot or that the shot that Yanni took ah was a head outside shot.
00:18:21
Cokeley Brothers
PJ Duke just does really well countering like Kyle Dake with head inside shots.
00:18:27
Cokeley Brothers
And it's not, it's obviously more complicated than that, but that's, that was one of the key things that I noticed, but enough, enough about the 70 kilos. Let's move on.
00:18:38
Cokeley Brothers
Let's move on to a different weight class. Any he pick, pick one, pick one of the eight, please.
00:18:43
Ryne & Reese
fifty so 57. Damn, that's what i was going to say. That's crazy. just right here The lowest weight? The lightest weight? Who would have thought?
00:18:51
Cokeley Brothers
At the beginning, all right, 57 kilos. Spencer Lee takes out Luke Lilladol 7-2 in match one and then 6-0 in match two. ah Basically, all of Spencer's points were scored in the first minute, minute and a half of of his matches.
00:19:05
Cokeley Brothers
um And he was very verbal and very, he put a lot of emphasis behind the fact that he's disappointed in himself for how he wrestled. ah Yeah, what do you guys think?
00:19:16
Ryne & Reese
think he has a tank issue. He's always had a tank issue since college, at least. That's why he doesn't โ€“ At least since his junior year not of college, he's had tank issues.
00:19:28
Ryne & Reese
So think that's why he's scared to like โ€“ like he's incapable of putting points up even though that's like what he wants to do? I think he's, yeah, scared that he's going to get, you know, fatigued and make mistakes and get Nick Pitch and Enid.
00:19:37
Cokeley Brothers
think there's a couple of things happening.
00:19:44
Ryne & Reese
Nick Pitch and Enid.
00:19:45
Cokeley Brothers
I think there's a couple of things happening. So yes, I, I, I don't, I agree with the relative gas tank problem. Uh, but I think what Spencer Lee has done uh,
00:20:01
Cokeley Brothers
you know If he gets a lead and he's comfortable there, he's going to manage himself rather than continuing to try and shoot himself out of a match in a way.
00:20:06
Ryne & Reese
But he doesn't want to do Yeah, he does not want to do that.
00:20:09
Cokeley Brothers
But he doesn't want to do that. But also what Luke Lillodal is going to do is sit back and wait for him to make a mistake. Because if there's one thing Spencer Lee is good at, it is punishing you for overextending.
00:20:21
Cokeley Brothers
ah and We saw that Luke luke you know kind of came out firing early in match number two and immediately ah Spencer Lee gets a takedown right into a lace. um And so I think one, Lee was managing himself late in the matches, but also Lillidal was trying to find offensive opportunities without pushing too hard.
00:20:43
Cokeley Brothers
And so, you know, it's, it's a kind of a ah back and forth there where Spencer Lee is not going to overexert

Future of Wrestlers like Luke Lilladol

00:20:52
Ryne & Reese
um
00:20:52
Cokeley Brothers
himself if Luke Lillidal isn't opening up, but Luke Lillidal has to, or he's just going to concede a 6-0 loss.
00:20:58
Ryne & Reese
Should have hit him with the double stalls.
00:21:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, double passivity.
00:21:05
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, yeah, and i don't think I don't think... I really don't think there's anything majorly wrong with what Spencer Rett did. i mean, maybe... I don't know.
00:21:17
Cokeley Brothers
Because every you know freestyle is so delicate.
00:21:19
Ryne & Reese
As a fan, how do you feel about it as a fan?
00:21:22
Cokeley Brothers
mean, where periods... where where periods ah we're We're both second periods and in the matches boring. Yeah. ah But Spencer Lee has no obligation to go out there and entertain me.
00:21:33
Cokeley Brothers
Now he's mentioned like, it's great to see the fans out here for freestyle. Freestyle needs more fans, but I need to be a better wrestler for them. And that's cool that he wants to do that, but it's also very important that he goes out and wins matches.
00:21:45
Cokeley Brothers
Sometimes that and that means um if you're re if you're wrestling a Vazkin Tivanyan type guy, that means not trying to overexert or overextend yourself For five and a half minutes of the match.
00:21:58
Ryne & Reese
Get Richard of crying.
00:21:59
Cokeley Brothers
That's the way I see it.
00:22:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, sure.
00:22:09
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Any other thoughts about 57?
00:22:15
Ryne & Reese
I don't think... Do you think Lil' Doll's going maintain the weight? Or is he going outgrow it?
00:22:23
Cokeley Brothers
i think I think he'll be, so because he's going to have to stick around at 125 for next year and maybe even another another year. ah So I think he'll...
00:22:30
Ryne & Reese
Why?
00:22:31
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:22:32
Ryne & Reese
Why?
00:22:34
Cokeley Brothers
ah Because of the rest of the lineup. Marcus Blaze and Ono.
00:22:38
Ryne & Reese
Blaze will be a 49 eventually. 49,
00:22:42
Cokeley Brothers
He's going to be 33 next year.
00:22:44
Ryne & Reese
you think? I saw him in person, Ryan. So did I. He's not big. He's not. He can be. You wrestled 149. Look at Joseph. What?
00:22:54
Ryne & Reese
Look at Joseph.
00:22:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. but Okay.
00:22:57
Ryne & Reese
Joseph.
00:22:57
Ryne & Reese
Joseph Blaze. Oh, Joseph Blaze.
00:22:57
Cokeley Brothers
Look at...
00:23:00
Cokeley Brothers
It's fine.
00:23:02
Ryne & Reese
He's a big guy.
00:23:05
Ryne & Reese
Is it confirmed that he's 33 and Ono's 41? Ono's
00:23:09
Cokeley Brothers
What we what what Marcus Blaze said that plans on wrestling 133. Oh,
00:23:16
Ryne & Reese
redshirting. Oh, no. That's lame.

Real Woods vs. Joey McKenna

00:23:19
Cokeley Brothers
oh no um
00:23:22
Ryne & Reese
I feel like you want to wrestle that guy right away, but what do I know?
00:23:25
Cokeley Brothers
I think they're still trying to figure out his eligibility too.
00:23:26
Ryne & Reese
you know How many eligibility years is he getting? Dos.
00:23:31
Ryne & Reese
Two of
00:23:31
Cokeley Brothers
They're trying to work for two.
00:23:32
Cokeley Brothers
They haven't yet. They've been given. He's been given one. They're working for two.
00:23:34
Ryne & Reese
So redshirting makes sense.
00:23:39
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, am I wrong? You're looking at me like wrong.
00:23:40
Ryne & Reese
I thought it was giving him two working for three. I heard it was one working for two. Okay. There you Both of you.
00:23:48
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Final closing thoughts on 57 is that Spencer Lee looks like he's going to win a world title and it doesn't look like there's going to be very many people that can stop him.
00:23:56
Ryne & Reese
Who is Japan sending?
00:24:00
Cokeley Brothers
Don't know.
00:24:00
Ryne & Reese
Russia,
00:24:01
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:24:03
Ryne & Reese
the Mongoose?
00:24:04
Cokeley Brothers
Or Pavlov.
00:24:08
Cokeley Brothers
Mongoose or Lev. One or the other. Pavlov.
00:24:11
Ryne & Reese
Or who?
00:24:12
Cokeley Brothers
Pavlov.
00:24:13
Ryne & Reese
oh
00:24:16
Cokeley Brothers
um But I have no idea who's going to be at 57 for Japan. i don't. I believe Ono has said that he's not wrestling. And Ray has said that he's not wrestling.
00:24:27
Cokeley Brothers
So don't know.
00:24:29
Ryne & Reese
There'll be somebody good.
00:24:29
Cokeley Brothers
Probably doesn't matter.
00:24:31
Ryne & Reese
That would be somebody good. They they got good lightweight.
00:24:33
Cokeley Brothers
Somebody tough. Sure. ah
00:24:38
Ryne & Reese
You're such a...
00:24:38
Cokeley Brothers
I just dudes. Spencer. Spencer's good. Spencer's a good man.
00:24:43
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, I know, I know.
00:24:45
Cokeley Brothers
Spencer's good. Okay. 65 kilos, real woods, Joey McKenna Reese. This is where you get to express your pain.
00:24:53
Ryne & Reese
Oh, well, I'm sad. Very sad for Joey McKenna. who I mean, who wasn't sad for Joey McKenna after that, dude?
00:24:58
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:24:59
Ryne & Reese
Who wouldn't be sad?
00:25:00
Cokeley Brothers
That
00:25:03
Cokeley Brothers
here's, yeah, there's two, there's two, there's two very different sides to this. One, it's awesome to see how game Real Woods is for every single match that he wrestles.
00:25:17
Cokeley Brothers
Two, what a brutal way to lose not one, but two matches if you're Joey McKenna.
00:25:22
Ryne & Reese
That first one, yes. Real Woods, he he pulled it off.
00:25:28
Cokeley Brothers
Pulled it off.
00:25:28
Ryne & Reese
Little gamer there. But the second match, bro, that was Joey. That was Joey's to win. You know, after giving up that first exposure, that first four, he got a takedown immediately after that.
00:25:42
Ryne & Reese
Got a takedown early in the second period. Had, you know, like 90 seconds or two minutes or whatever to score again. And he didn't. So, I mean... It sucks.
00:25:53
Ryne & Reese
It was sad.
00:25:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. It like, uh, yeah, it was four to four and there was ah a minute and a half left.
00:25:57
Ryne & Reese
right.
00:25:59
Cokeley Brothers
And even the commentary was like, yeah, uh, don't expect this match to stay four to four in the, in the last 90 seconds.
00:26:05
Ryne & Reese
Oh.
00:26:05
Cokeley Brothers
And now there were stoppages and joy McKenna was, was losing so much blood and, you know, real woods just, he just kind of managed to

Sportsmanship and Match Reflections

00:26:18
Cokeley Brothers
slow everything down at at the end of that match.
00:26:20
Ryne & Reese
I guess. and I guess so. ah I mean, you know, just โ€“ I have a hard โ€“ I just think this is one of those things where it's just like, man, like you need to โ€“ it just didn't look like he absolutely threw the kitchen sink, you know, the last 90 seconds.
00:26:38
Cokeley Brothers
Like he left more in the tank.
00:26:41
Ryne & Reese
until, you know, and like, until like the last 15 or 20 seconds, you know, what, what, what a lot of guys do, which is, I just don't get it.
00:26:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:49
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:26:50
Ryne & Reese
Make, get, get your, get a push out, get something going and make woods come to you because what woods attacked probably less than five times in both matches, like total.
00:26:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:27:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:04
Ryne & Reese
But good, I mean, real ones, I think he's, he might probably be the better option overseas. So it'll be interesting to see how he does.
00:27:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I hope most of, if not all these guys, go to wrestle at the last ranking series event that's out in Hungary July 17th, I think. Something like that.
00:27:25
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:27:26
Ryne & Reese
Apparently he's wrestled less than like 20 freestyle matches now total.
00:27:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. so
00:27:31
Ryne & Reese
He's, he hasn't, yeah, he hasn't, he's not even like he's had like 17 freestyle matches.
00:27:31
Cokeley Brothers
Real?
00:27:35
Cokeley Brothers
Wait.
00:27:37
Cokeley Brothers
here He didn't wrestle like Fargo or anything like that?
00:27:40
Ryne & Reese
No.
00:27:41
Cokeley Brothers
Wow.
00:27:43
Ryne & Reese
Spencer Lee said he's the best wrestler he's ever wrestled. About real.
00:27:47
Cokeley Brothers
That's high. That's high praise.
00:27:49
Ryne & Reese
What does that mean? He's best wrestler he's ever like put hands on. That's crazy. Like he's ever wrestled. and per You know what I mean? Interesting. said He said he's disgustingly good.
00:28:00
Ryne & Reese
That's crazy. and don't I just don't see what he's talking about.
00:28:07
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, you havent you haven't felt them like Spencer's felt them.
00:28:08
Ryne & Reese
Maybe it's because โ€“ I mean, I'm sure he's got to be crazy strong. That's for sure.
00:28:14
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, yeah. And not, dude, just think about the path that Real Woods took to be where he is.
00:28:21
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:28:21
Cokeley Brothers
Last second takedown over Valencia gets a massive lead and against ah Mendez and against Brock Hardy and just and just manages to outlast both of them.
00:28:28
Ryne & Reese
9-0 lead.
00:28:35
Cokeley Brothers
And then he beats Joey McKenna two matches to none and
00:28:38
Ryne & Reese
I would have liked to see him and Blaze. Real and Blaze. I'm sure it would be a very boring match, but interesting nonetheless.
00:28:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Ooh. I mean, we can talk about, you want to talk about, uh,
00:28:48
Ryne & Reese
I would. Realwood makes a team all because he just fell into that low single.
00:28:54
Cokeley Brothers
yeah, it was funny. Yeah. Dude. That, and that's the other crazy thing. Aiden Valencia has got two wins over him, two wins over him. And it was, was a point away from beating joy. McKenna Aiden Valencia is, is really his kryptonite is Bo Bartlett or Bo Bassett.
00:29:08
Ryne & Reese
yeah He's the king of right there.
00:29:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:29:11
Ryne & Reese
So close yet so far. He is.
00:29:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:29:14
Ryne & Reese
He is. And he probably should have beat Bassett the last time they wrestled. He should have. But he didn't. I
00:29:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Yep. Okay. That's 65 kilos. We talked about 70.
00:29:27
Ryne & Reese
haven't heard boned him in so long. They boned him. They boned him good.
00:29:35
Cokeley Brothers
74 kilograms.
00:29:39
Cokeley Brothers
David Carr takes out Mitchell Mesenbrink in two matches, avenging his technical fall loss from the U.S. Open.
00:29:46
Ryne & Reese
Guess who was right on this way? and I knew you were going to say that shit. guy you were You were too, Sammy? I thought we all picked something different.
00:29:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i but I think I said two to one. I think I said two matches to one.
00:29:56
Ryne & Reese
Not right. That's incorrect.
00:29:59
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. I was right about him beating Mesenbrink, at least.

David Carr's Adaptability at 74 Kilos

00:30:04
Ryne & Reese
I was very wrong.
00:30:04
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:30:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and he and he looked good. He looked good when he did it.
00:30:09
Ryne & Reese
think had two one missing break.
00:30:11
Cokeley Brothers
He looked good when he did it. He managed to negate ah pretty much everything that Mitchell Mesenbrink normally has against his opponents. Yeah.
00:30:18
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, he was sneaky with ah with his leg defense.
00:30:22
Cokeley Brothers
Sneaking with his leg defense quick on the re-attack.
00:30:23
Ryne & Reese
Sneaky? Slippery like a snake. Slippery like a snake.
00:30:27
Ryne & Reese
limer
00:30:27
Cokeley Brothers
du it i mean he he now he looked
00:30:31
Cokeley Brothers
David Carr looked really good. I think he looks like a guy who's going to go out there and and wrestle for a world medal. Maybe even surprise us against some of the top guys like Valiev, like Siedikov, Salkazanov, and other guys at 74 kilos.
00:30:44
Cokeley Brothers
um I think he's going to find a way to put himself in those matches and and fight for the win there. so i'm I'm excited for him at 74 kilos.
00:30:49
Ryne & Reese
You know who else feels like you do except times 10?
00:30:55
Cokeley Brothers
ah Jordan Burroughs.
00:30:56
Ryne & Reese
Jordan Burroughs.
00:30:58
Cokeley Brothers
and And I feel good.
00:30:58
Ryne & Reese
and him
00:30:59
Cokeley Brothers
I feel good when he says that because he he'd been training with him for the last week. He had the feel.
00:31:02
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:31:03
Cokeley Brothers
And if there's a guy who knows how to win world titles at 74 kilos, it's Jordan Burroughs.
00:31:04
Ryne & Reese
Well, I mean, that that means you way to no that means you should be that means you should be taking his word with a little bit of a grain of salt if they've been like training. I mean, I know he's feeling him. He knows how good he is and yada, yada, yada. But also, like there's bias behind that.
00:31:18
Ryne & Reese
And he waited, dude. He waited until literally after that whistle blew in that second match until the match was completely over, a series was over. He's like, this guy has what it takes to be one of the greatest of all time.
00:31:33
Ryne & Reese
Oh, because he made a Penn State wrestler? You think that's why he was saying that? I don't know. He was just โ€“ I liked it.
00:31:39
Cokeley Brothers
he He's just...
00:31:41
Ryne & Reese
I didn't hate it. you know I liked David Cox.
00:31:42
Cokeley Brothers
It's because Mitchell Mezenbrink was pushing on Jordan Burrow's head when they wrestled.
00:31:44
Ryne & Reese
I liked it.
00:31:49
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:31:49
Ryne & Reese
No, he pushed on Mitchell Mitchell.
00:31:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i do but I mean...
00:31:53
Ryne & Reese
No, he... Oh, I was talking about when Burroughs went wham on him right there out of bounds.
00:31:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but Mitchell was doing the...
00:31:59
Cokeley Brothers
Well, yeah, Burrow's...
00:31:59
Ryne & Reese
He shoved his hand down.
00:32:01
Cokeley Brothers
Right, Burrow's did not initiate that whole that whole situation, though.
00:32:05
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, but you can't let Mitchell Mitchell's kicky-tackiness get to you.
00:32:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I know you can't... i know
00:32:09
Cokeley Brothers
I know. Jordan Burroughs does let let antics and matches get to him. he's always That's always been the case. like yeah He'll always come up out of his stance and just be like, what's up?
00:32:17
Ryne & Reese
Ooh...
00:32:21
Cokeley Brothers
What's the deal with that? and He'll get chest to chest with Russians.
00:32:22
Ryne & Reese
I don't think โ€“ I felt like he did not do it as much in 11 and 12.
00:32:28
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe not. I don't know.
00:32:30
Ryne & Reese
He's a competitor.
00:32:31
Ryne & Reese
You the competitors do that.
00:32:31
Cokeley Brothers
But he didn't he did not like his eyes being touched.
00:32:33
Cokeley Brothers
He did not like um his fingers being twisted.
00:32:37
Ryne & Reese
and I'm just saying when Sargoosh was ripping his singlet up, he wasn't like looking at the referee.
00:32:37
Cokeley Brothers
He made a point of it.
00:32:41
Ryne & Reese
He's like, oh, look at him.
00:32:42
Ryne & Reese
You know what i mean He was just โ€“ he was like rolling with the punches and just winning.
00:32:42
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:32:44
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:32:46
Ryne & Reese
and I loved it that time Burroughs put both of his hands on Kyle Dake's face and pushed him. You know what I liked?
00:32:54
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:32:55
Ryne & Reese
I liked that time he grabbed both of David Taylor's feet and flipped him over at the World Team trials. That was cool.
00:33:02
Cokeley Brothers
so So, in college, my roommate, Brendan Furman, he... He was like, you know, for a while, for a while, I thought that Kyle Dake was, was like being dramatic about Jordan Burroughs and his hands to the face.
00:33:08
Ryne & Reese
Who?
00:33:17
Cokeley Brothers
And then I got this screenshot and it's, it's a, it's Burroughs and Dake at the open in 2017. And Dake is like down in his hands and knees position and Burroughs.
00:33:28
Cokeley Brothers
It's literally, you can't see Dake's face. It's just Burroughs hands over Dake's face.
00:33:32
Ryne & Reese
That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that is what he's talking about.
00:33:34
Cokeley Brothers
It's, it is. I know. I wish I had that screenshot. Um, it is, uh, it's a funny photo.
00:33:42
Ryne & Reese
They don't like each other.
00:33:42
Cokeley Brothers
So, but I mean, back to, back to David Carr. Um, you know i'm not going to take I'm not going to take Jordan Burrow's word with a grain of salt. I'm going to take it for what it is, and I'm excited for it. um i'm excited I'm also excited to to continue to see Carr and Mezenbrink and the upcoming guys like Ladarian Lockett and Keegan O'Toole get healthy again and Myers-Hapiro to move up to 74 kilograms.
00:34:03
Cokeley Brothers
I'm excited for all of these guys to start coming up into this weight, PJ Duke even, and start elevating each other ah because I feel like
00:34:09
Ryne & Reese
Get Dukie done.
00:34:12
Cokeley Brothers
74 kilos has kind of been a weight where the U S you know, with Burroughs and Dake, it's been weight for us to kind of anchor ourselves onto. And so I want to be able to continue to do that moving forward.
00:34:22
Ryne & Reese
So do you think, car are you giving Carr shot against the top brass?
00:34:27
Cokeley Brothers
If he, if he goes out there and wins a wins a world title, that will be crazy impressive. Um, but I think with the way he wrestles, it's not impossible.
00:34:33
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:34:37
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think it's impossible for him to go out there and, you know i'm go I'll call it what it is, steal a win from a guy like Sherman Believ.

Zahid Valencia and Kyle Dake at 86 Kilos

00:34:45
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's better than Believ, but I think he's capable of beating him.
00:34:52
Ryne & Reese
German.
00:34:52
Cokeley Brothers
That's the see it.
00:34:53
Ryne & Reese
The Termin. The Terminator.
00:34:56
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:34:58
Ryne & Reese
Next.
00:34:58
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Anything else here? Okay. 79 Levi Haynes gets a tech fall and pure and in in match one, about a minute and a half into it, and then wins his second match six to one, something like that.
00:35:02
Ryne & Reese
Nomination.
00:35:06
Ryne & Reese
I was very wrong about this. Oh, we all were.
00:35:11
Ryne & Reese
I picked with my heart, I will say, with this weight. I picked with my heart. Wiki had no answers.
00:35:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. du and And praying for Ben Askren, praying for him to get healthy.
00:35:21
Ryne & Reese
No. Don't come into the camera with your shirt off, dude. No one wants to see that. No, I'm not giving you the mic. Get out of here. Did you put aloe on?
00:35:34
Ryne & Reese
Mr. Red man? That dude is burnt to a crisp.
00:35:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yikes. Prayers go out to Ben Askren and his family and his situation. um Wick's been training at the Askren Wrestling Academy.
00:35:53
Cokeley Brothers
don't think we saw prime Evan Wick.
00:35:53
Ryne & Reese
Going back to Wisconsin, huh?
00:35:57
Cokeley Brothers
it is not it might there's no way
00:35:58
Ryne & Reese
Missed it.
00:36:00
Cokeley Brothers
i don't think we saw prime evanwick
00:36:01
Ryne & Reese
Wait. Missed Wisconsin. That's why went back. you missed it. I missed it. I missed it, too. I missed it. Yeah. Did you miss it, Sammy?
00:36:08
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think we saw like Prime ready to go out there and compete Evan Wick this weekend.
00:36:11
Ryne & Reese
God.
00:36:13
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know about you guys.
00:36:13
Ryne & Reese
He just didn't the shit out of us. Sammy is no fun Sammy.
00:36:20
Cokeley Brothers
i can't I can't hear you guys.
00:36:21
Ryne & Reese
knows our family.
00:36:22
Cokeley Brothers
I can't hear you guys.
00:36:22
Ryne & Reese
You can't hear
00:36:23
Cokeley Brothers
When you guys like start we guys start talking to each other over here. I can't fucking hear you.
00:36:28
Ryne & Reese
him? No. He's Whoa. don't know, because, I mean, we're sharing a mic. Yeah. So if we turn away from the mic, it doesn't pick up the sound.
00:36:41
Ryne & Reese
We didn't know. How about that? Is that better? Is it picking up the sound better now?
00:36:45
Cokeley Brothers
I don't kind of I mean, think it's just a little bit more echoey. Just let's just keep going on. um Yeah. Haynes, Haynes smashed wick.
00:36:58
Cokeley Brothers
Don't do that.
00:37:01
Cokeley Brothers
Haynes smashed wick. And I'm interested to see what Levi Haynes is able to do with this weight.
00:37:09
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:37:10
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what to expect. i don't really...
00:37:11
Ryne & Reese
Me neither.
00:37:12
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know... i don't know what 79 kilos is like at the world level.
00:37:17
Ryne & Reese
Levi Haynes has always been better in freestyle.
00:37:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but... I mean, didn't he... He um he lost to Facundo last year at trials.
00:37:29
Ryne & Reese
Facundo has also always been better in freestyle. Should Facundo really be our rep?
00:37:37
Ryne & Reese
Could you, could you hear me?
00:37:38
Cokeley Brothers
Well, he's got... You got a wrestle to be the rep.
00:37:41
Ryne & Reese
Oh yeah. You heard that.
00:37:44
Cokeley Brothers
Well, here's the thing, guys. so The direction in which you talk affects how the mic picks up the sound.
00:37:50
Ryne & Reese
No, it doesn't. Facundo.
00:37:55
Cokeley Brothers
You guys piss me off.
00:37:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's 79 kilos. You want to move it on up?
00:38:01
Ryne & Reese
Yes.
00:38:03
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Zahid Valencia is our rep at 86 kilograms. Soundly beat Kyle Dake in two matches. And... Looks pretty dang good. And I'll tell you what.
00:38:17
Cokeley Brothers
He has some mean competition at Worlds. Have you guys looked at the weight?
00:38:23
Ryne & Reese
I heard about it.
00:38:25
Cokeley Brothers
We've got Gassinpour, Ramazanov, Ishiguro, Karimaga Medov. Who else? Other people.
00:38:36
Ryne & Reese
heard he's the next big Russian thing. He can't be Nifonov. ah g
00:38:40
Cokeley Brothers
No, probably Artur. Or Kadeev.
00:38:44
Ryne & Reese
yeah
00:38:44
Cokeley Brothers
Guy that beat Josh Barr last year at U20s.
00:38:47
Ryne & Reese
i heard he's the next
00:38:47
Cokeley Brothers
Ibrahim Kadeev.
00:38:48
Ryne & Reese
um he's the next big russian thing
00:38:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he's like the truth, apparently.
00:38:52
Ryne & Reese
can't be in the fun um Not right now. He can't beat him right now. He will beat him.
00:38:57
Cokeley Brothers
Well, they they got Russian Nationals coming up, so we'll see.
00:38:57
Ryne & Reese
phrate
00:39:01
Ryne & Reese
You guys want to go?
00:39:01
Cokeley Brothers
So. To Russian Nationals?
00:39:03
Ryne & Reese
Let's go. It's the perfect time of the
00:39:06
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:39:09
Ryne & Reese
Do you want to go, Sam?
00:39:10
Cokeley Brothers
No, i don't I don't want to leave our country right now. I think we should stay within the borders.
00:39:13
Ryne & Reese
He doesn't want end up in a Brittany Griner situation. on Then don't take any penjamins with you. Yeah. Knock that off.
00:39:22
Cokeley Brothers
Understood.
00:39:23
Ryne & Reese
Knock it off, Sammy. Knock it off.
00:39:27
Cokeley Brothers
Stop.
00:39:27
Ryne & Reese
What are you sipping on? It looks like tropical smoothie.
00:39:33
Cokeley Brothers
No. Yep,
00:39:36
Ryne & Reese
Fusackley's. It's a chicken place.
00:39:38
Cokeley Brothers
yeah there you go.

Kyle Snyder's Wrestling Strategy

00:39:38
Ryne & Reese
It's all right.
00:39:40
Ryne & Reese
He took me to the taco place that was really good, dude.
00:39:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:39:43
Ryne & Reese
you take me? Uh-uh. Yeah. Taco Mommy's.
00:39:43
Cokeley Brothers
Taco Mama.
00:39:46
Cokeley Brothers
Nope.
00:39:47
Ryne & Reese
That's right. Taco Mommy's? Yeah. Where are the Mommy's at?
00:39:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Hey, how did you guys feel about Caldick? Or not Caldick, Zahid Valencia.
00:39:56
Ryne & Reese
and pi oh I picked him to win. I feel great about Zahid. I think this move to Stili has really helped him. I don't see, i see Zahid beating Ramazan of no problem, no issue whatsoever.
00:40:10
Cokeley Brothers
What about gas and poor? That's an interesting one to me because I don't.
00:40:12
Ryne & Reese
That's an interesting match.
00:40:14
Cokeley Brothers
Well, because I don't know. He's not going to be the same guy that he was at 92 kilograms. Right.
00:40:19
Ryne & Reese
could be better What do you mean?
00:40:20
Cokeley Brothers
He's good.
00:40:20
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, are you saying he's worse or better?
00:40:23
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, more it's more of a weight cut. So generally that makes you worse.
00:40:29
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, but it hasn't made Zed worse.
00:40:29
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:40:34
Cokeley Brothers
What do you mean?
00:40:35
Ryne & Reese
He was at 92 kilograms before. Yeah, that's right.
00:40:38
Cokeley Brothers
yeah But that was like bumping up, basically.
00:40:38
Ryne & Reese
That's how you say. and the And also the scales say, but... Yeah,
00:40:49
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:40:49
Ryne & Reese
but who knows?
00:40:51
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, dude. Zahid looks really good.
00:40:53
Ryne & Reese
I feel extremely confident
00:40:54
Cokeley Brothers
The move to Stillwater has been nothing short of transformative for him. And apparently his lifestyle as well, which is good news. so I'm excited for him.
00:41:07
Cokeley Brothers
But what do you guys think about Kyle Dake and his viability at 86 kilograms for his attempt to win and Olympic gold medal in l LA in 2028?
00:41:18
Ryne & Reese
I think Kyle ba is great and he can do it. And that's just how good the heat is. He made, he had one mixed.
00:41:18
Cokeley Brothers
Do you think...
00:41:25
Cokeley Brothers
Do you think... Do you think with another year... So let's give Kyle Dake 12 months... Is he getting bigger? Is he better for the weight class? What what changes within the next 12 months?
00:41:38
Ryne & Reese
Probably get bigger. 26.
00:41:42
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Right.
00:41:43
Ryne & Reese
twenty six He's up pounds from a year ago not even
00:41:51
Cokeley Brothers
It's true. It's true. Yeah, we'll see. But honestly, here's the thing. Zahid didn't really beat him. Zahid kind of beat him with speed.
00:42:00
Ryne & Reese
He was speedy.
00:42:01
Cokeley Brothers
Hit that nasty quick go behind, a sweep single, and I mean, so he don't trip.
00:42:12
Ryne & Reese
He shot that, that high C was so fast. Don't trip dog.
00:42:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah The thing that I saw with Kyle Dake is his offense works.
00:42:20
Ryne & Reese
Didn't even need.
00:42:24
Cokeley Brothers
He just needs to get to it.
00:42:26
Ryne & Reese
Yeah. Why do you think he wasn't getting to his offense? Especially in that second match.
00:42:31
Cokeley Brothers
Because Zahid is built... what's that What's that Dark Souls boss? ah
00:42:41
Cokeley Brothers
this this The one that you fight when you got to drop the ladder to get up into work.
00:42:45
Ryne & Reese
The dancer.
00:42:47
Cokeley Brothers
Dancer, yeah.

Trent Heidley's Wrestling Journey

00:42:48
Cokeley Brothers
He's built like that Dark Souls boss. and And just...
00:42:50
Ryne & Reese
That's rude.
00:42:52
Cokeley Brothers
How do you clear...
00:42:52
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, look him up,
00:42:56
Cokeley Brothers
How do you clear the head and hands defense, dude? It's... And then his...
00:43:00
Ryne & Reese
though.
00:43:04
Ryne & Reese
yeah look him up though yeah i
00:43:08
Cokeley Brothers
But like, seriously, like, I don't know how you get i don't know how you get to Zahid's legs. It seems impossible.
00:43:14
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, I mean, that he was, you know, growing up watching him, that was his whole thing, especially like and early in high school, he was like so long and so hard. It was so difficult to get to his legs.
00:43:26
Ryne & Reese
His defense was like what he was known for. And he even talked about it in his post-match interview. He was like, you know, my defense is like what i'm I'm like world-class at.
00:43:37
Ryne & Reese
have world-class defense, and my offense also getting to that point.
00:43:43
Ryne & Reese
does not look anything like that.
00:43:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:43:45
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, he's not good like this.
00:43:45
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, okay.
00:43:46
Cokeley Brothers
Then I'm just wrong.
00:43:48
Ryne & Reese
Look up Gale. Look up Slave Knight Gale. He looks more like him.
00:43:55
Cokeley Brothers
don't want to look it up.
00:44:02
Cokeley Brothers
Well, I don't even know how to... I guess you...
00:44:04
Ryne & Reese
Look at that back, dude. That's what his back looks like. he's all hunt It's all giant.
00:44:08
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, he...
00:44:09
Ryne & Reese
Swinger's back? Yeah.
00:44:13
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Zahidz.
00:44:13
Ryne & Reese
ah so but i'll he looks Look at those shoulders. You're telling me that doesn't that doesn't look like him right there? It's proportioned weirdly.
00:44:27
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, let's let's move on to the guy that I'm the most excited for.
00:44:32
Ryne & Reese
looks like Trent Hedley, if anyone. Slave Night Gale. Slave Night Gale, yeah. He's Trent Hedley. Big back, big shoulders like Trent.
00:44:40
Cokeley Brothers
Trent Heidly beats Josh Barr two matches to none and hits a celebration, dude.
00:44:42
Ryne & Reese
Hi there.
00:44:48
Ryne & Reese
What was his celebration? Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:44:48
Cokeley Brothers
And I'll tell you what.
00:44:50
Ryne & Reese
That was...
00:44:50
Cokeley Brothers
Well, I mean, yeah.
00:44:51
Cokeley Brothers
So there's the whole handshake situation. Like really, who cares? it does They shook hands. It doesn't matter.
00:44:55
Ryne & Reese
Who cares?
00:44:56
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:44:56
Ryne & Reese
They didn't shake hands. First all, they did not shake hands.
00:44:59
Cokeley Brothers
They touched hands. What you want to call it?
00:45:01
Ryne & Reese
They touched. They tickled. Listen, listen. It's a process. I mean, you see it all the time.
00:45:05
Cokeley Brothers
I know.
00:45:06
Ryne & Reese
Shake hands. You stand there. You take your freaking lickings as your other as your opponent gets his hand raised. That's just how it is. It's one thing to try to to try to run off. It's another thing when you get called out and you still you yeah still don't do it.
00:45:19
Cokeley Brothers
Right. And and like, the I mean, you know, you can, you get a what?
00:45:19
Ryne & Reese
I'm a black pocket.
00:45:23
Ryne & Reese
I said that he was being a baby about it, and I'm a Josh Barr fan. I like Josh Barr. You get people who try to try to leave, and then the ref gets them to come back.
00:45:28
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:45:31
Cokeley Brothers
Well, mean, what do you, what do you think about the fact that his coaches didn't say, Hey, you have to go back out there.
00:45:35
Ryne & Reese
I don't didn't see the coaches. I have i don't even like know what to think about the coaches right now with all this stuff that's going on.
00:45:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Well, so I think that's why I'm trying to like drum it down a little bit because everybody's like, man, all this stuff happening at Penn State and like Josh Barr won't shake hands with Trent Heidley, it's like, you guys are reading really deep into it. And like yeah, he didn't shake his hand ah the way you're supposed to But does it...
00:46:01
Ryne & Reese
It's not even the handshake.
00:46:02
Cokeley Brothers
does Yeah.
00:46:02
Ryne & Reese
It's mostly just the standing in the middle, which is whatever.
00:46:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:46:07
Ryne & Reese
It's sportsmanship.
00:46:07
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:46:08
Ryne & Reese
And Trent, you know, hey, if the guy, you know. It's sportsmanship. Trent, trent just, you know, don't don't like make the moment. Well, you know, I'm sure didn't. Don't make the moment about you.
00:46:19
Ryne & Reese
No, I'm talking about bar. Showing him off or up, excuse me. I'm talking about bar. What about don't make moment about Don't make the moment about you. Yeah, bye. Bye.
00:46:19
Cokeley Brothers
that's That's what Trent Hadley is, is he's a maker of the moment.
00:46:27
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah, that's fair.
00:46:28
Ryne & Reese
but I mean I don't think โ€“ I don't โ€“ well, so maybe he โ€“ don't think he was trying to. Yeah, he probably wasn't trying to. He did it indirectly or whatever you want โ€“ however you want to say it. But Trent then turned it around and made it back about โ€“ made it about him again when he was like โ€“
00:46:43
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, he was just so...

Gable Steveson's Training Speculations

00:46:45
Cokeley Brothers
he But he was also just so excited.
00:46:45
Ryne & Reese
And then he went, clapped at his โ€“ and then he was talking people in post-match interview.
00:46:52
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, at the at the ah at the end of match one, when there's like five seconds left on the restart, Trent Heidly's clapping his hands and just screaming at him. I'm like, yeah, like this is why I love Trent Heidly. I think he's just he's just...
00:47:02
Ryne & Reese
yeah I love it.
00:47:06
Cokeley Brothers
He's just great, and he's going to go out and wrestle, and he's honestly probably going to do really well. Because he's he always does well against international competition, so I'm excited for him.
00:47:15
Cokeley Brothers
He did get...
00:47:16
Ryne & Reese
92 is probably like it's like consistently one of the weaker weights, right? Yes.
00:47:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, last year is probably an exception.
00:47:24
Ryne & Reese
come other again Last year was weird. Oh, yeah.
00:47:28
Ryne & Reese
Last year was the exception. Yes.
00:47:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:47:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So, I mean, he he'll go out there and medal, most likely. um Will he be able to win a title? I don't know. I don't even know who's there right now.
00:47:39
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, who's the number?
00:47:39
Cokeley Brothers
Azerpura is not there.
00:47:40
Ryne & Reese
Who's the dog?
00:47:40
Cokeley Brothers
Gastonpur is not there. I don't know what Russians are there. so
00:47:45
Ryne & Reese
I don't know who the dog is.
00:47:46
Cokeley Brothers
All right. 97 kilos. Kyle Snyder wins two two matches over Hayden Zilmer. He did get arm spun, which was kind of cool. um Or taken down by an arm spin.
00:48:00
Cokeley Brothers
ah But Kyle Snyder, what did you guys think about what you saw with him? Tell me.
00:48:04
Ryne & Reese
No, no. Keep going, Sammy. I have a reply. ah have a reply for your tweet that you sent out. Reese told me I should have just hit sent on the reply, but I wanted to wait and see your expression in person.
00:48:18
Cokeley Brothers
What tweet did I send out?
00:48:20
Ryne & Reese
You were like, man, seeing Kyle Snyder hit that low single makes me feel like we're back to 2015 Kyle Snyder.
00:48:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean, that's what it felt like. it And just, he wrestled, he had a different style.
00:48:32
Ryne & Reese
What do you think he did after he won a world title in 2015, Sammy?
00:48:38
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:48:39
Ryne & Reese
Well, where was the world championships
00:48:42
Cokeley Brothers
It was in Vegas.
00:48:44
Ryne & Reese
here?
00:48:44
Ryne & Reese
What's legal in Vegas?
00:48:44
Cokeley Brothers
don't
00:48:46
Cokeley Brothers
You guys are so... You guys are so...
00:48:49
Ryne & Reese
He's back to his old self.
00:48:49
Cokeley Brothers
You just...
00:48:53
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, man. I don't know.
00:48:55
Ryne & Reese
It's just a joke, Sammy.
00:48:56
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:48:56
Ryne & Reese
Shit. yeah
00:48:57
Cokeley Brothers
I know. Yeah. No, it's fine. like somebody Somebody else responded to it. And I said something like, he's back to the good stuff or something like that. i don't know.
00:49:10
Ryne & Reese
What would they say?
00:49:11
Cokeley Brothers
But I liked what I saw out of Snyder. I don't know how you guys feel about it.
00:49:15
Ryne & Reese
Sure. he was He looked really good. i Yeah, love seeing a low single. We were just talking about high singles.
00:49:19
Cokeley Brothers
Right. and he He wrestled the wrestle a more upright stance and just...
00:49:21
Ryne & Reese
Yeah,
00:49:24
Ryne & Reese
and that was weird. What was up that? Is it because he was wrestling Hayden Zomer? Yeah, Zomer's so tall.
00:49:28
Ryne & Reese
I didn't know that. Hmm.
00:49:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and I think it's also in preparation to wrestle a guy like Taz Adinov who's also going to be taller, more upright.
00:49:36
Ryne & Reese
That could be. That's a very loud AC. It is loud. I thought it was raining outside for a second.
00:49:36
Cokeley Brothers
so
00:49:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it's yeah he's got he's got one of those ones that sounds like a rain machine. um Yeah, I'm excited for Kyle Snyder. I hope he can go out there and compete against Taz Adinov and Sadulaev and Azapura and everybody else at 97 kilos.
00:49:58
Ryne & Reese
Sadulayev. Speaking of Sadulayev, did you see that he invited Gable Steveson to come out to Russia and train with him? get him ready for the world.
00:50:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't know if... I don't know if Gable's going to say yes to that. I kind of hope he doesn't.
00:50:10
Ryne & Reese
I don't, yeah, I don't know. He might, depends on what they're going him.
00:50:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so that's... yeah I responded to it and I was like, seems like he will do anything except for Wrestle for Team USA, which is frustrating.
00:50:18
Ryne & Reese
What?
00:50:21
Ryne & Reese
I saw that. I saw that. But listen, I listened to me. Listen, you, I mean, so you're telling me for the right coin, you wouldn't do it.
00:50:30
Cokeley Brothers
No, I mean, it's for here's the thing. It's probably an awesome experience to go to Dagestan and be like treated as an Olympic champion and train with Sadjulayev. That's probably a surreal experience.
00:50:40
Ryne & Reese
And get paid to do it.
00:50:42
Cokeley Brothers
And get paid to do it. It's probably really cool. It just...
00:50:45
Ryne & Reese
How much money? How much money?
00:50:48
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:50:49
Ryne & Reese
What are the figures? What's your number?
00:50:52
Cokeley Brothers
How much am I saying Sedge live has to pay me?
00:50:56
Ryne & Reese
No, no, no why would you What would you take? What would you require?
00:51:01
Cokeley Brothers
What would I?
00:51:02
Ryne & Reese
What would they have to pay you if you were Gable?
00:51:04
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Oh, what did I, I must've said it the wrong way.
00:51:06
Ryne & Reese
but You're not Gable, you're Sammy, but you're as good as Gable as Sammy.
00:51:09
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:51:09
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:51:09
Cokeley Brothers
And there, so they want to pay me to go out there to train with Sedge live.
00:51:10
Ryne & Reese
I
00:51:14
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, I mean, how long am I out there for two weeks?
00:51:17
Ryne & Reese
i can't remember. Is that what they said?
00:51:19
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. ah just made up a number.
00:51:20
Ryne & Reese
Sure. Sure. No, no, no. A month. Three weeks.
00:51:25
Ryne & Reese
Call it even. Three weeks.
00:51:25
Cokeley Brothers
ah month?
00:51:28
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i don't know what... i don't I have no concept of what that looks like. 10 bands? I don't know. Is that a lot? Is that not a lot? I have no idea, dude. I don't know.

Wyatt Hendrickson's Dominance

00:51:40
Ryne & Reese
Not enough. Not enough.
00:51:42
Cokeley Brothers
ah For a month, I guess. You're saying 30 50? 50?
00:51:45
Ryne & Reese
Not enough.
00:51:48
Ryne & Reese
Not enough.
00:51:50
Cokeley Brothers
A hundred.
00:51:51
Ryne & Reese
Probably. One Bitcoin. We're getting closer. We're getting closer. We're in that six-figure range. That's definitely we're talking. Now we're talking. You're asking me come train you to beat the American?
00:51:59
Cokeley Brothers
My.
00:52:02
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, you're going have to pay me some serious coins.
00:52:09
Ryne & Reese
He's not that mad at Wyatt. I tell you that much.
00:52:09
Cokeley Brothers
the does debt does Does Dagestan have it like that?
00:52:15
Ryne & Reese
Come on now.
00:52:17
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i don't know what thing i don't know what the finances of the Dagestanis are like.
00:52:20
Ryne & Reese
Because that warlord money, brother, they gave, they gave Saduliah a darn tank.
00:52:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but they have tanks they they serve tanks up like hotcakes out there. It's Russia.
00:52:32
Ryne & Reese
And they break down in the mud.
00:52:33
Cokeley Brothers
Right? Yeah.
00:52:37
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. ah Interesting. Interesting insight. Maybe one day we'll be able to ask him. Anyway.
00:52:43
Ryne & Reese
Six things, that's what it would be. It'd have to be figures. Yeah, six figs.
00:52:47
Cokeley Brothers
Six figs.
00:52:48
Ryne & Reese
six
00:52:51
Cokeley Brothers
Give me six Richard Figueroas and we have a deal. 125 kilos. Wyatt Hendrickson wins very convincingly in match one, 10 to zero, and then has what I can only describe A...
00:53:05
Ryne & Reese
He was just putting on a show. He was just putting on a show. That's really what he was doing.
00:53:05
Cokeley Brothers
a
00:53:10
Cokeley Brothers
a
00:53:10
Ryne & Reese
He's doing what Spencer Lee wishes he could do.
00:53:16
Ryne & Reese
Get five and go in.
00:53:17
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, it was
00:53:22
Ryne & Reese
Oh, man. No, sorry. Why would he?
00:53:25
Cokeley Brothers
And Trent Hilger did not back down at all.
00:53:29
Ryne & Reese
no why would he
00:53:31
Cokeley Brothers
Which, now let me ask you, is it more of a cause for concern that Wyatt gave up 14 points to Trent Hilger, or is it more of a praise to Trent Hilger that he scored 14 points on Wyatt?
00:53:44
Ryne & Reese
Trent trains in Minnesota.
00:53:48
Cokeley Brothers
and Okay, but their previous meetings were 10-4 and
00:53:51
Ryne & Reese
I understand, but that doesn't mean that Trent can't get better. I mean, he did dress on with Gable Steveson and Hayden Zimmer. Maybe why it was really, maybe really truthfully. He was just letting it fly. You know? And yeah, honestly, like.
00:54:03
Ryne & Reese
We'll
00:54:03
Cokeley Brothers
You know what? here's yeah well we'll We'll figure that out.
00:54:06
Ryne & Reese
ask him.
00:54:07
Cokeley Brothers
We'll ask him. ah he will he will We're going to ask him tomorrow, most likely, if you guys are available.
00:54:08
Ryne & Reese
and When are we going ask
00:54:13
Ryne & Reese
Like,
00:54:16
Ryne & Reese
Which will be today for the listeners.
00:54:18
Cokeley Brothers
Which will be, yeah, like if you guys listen to this the morning that it's posted, we'll be
00:54:21
Ryne & Reese
But it will actually be tomorrow for the listeners because. Yeah,
00:54:24
Cokeley Brothers
will be ah interviewing him that same evening. ah Most likely. Yet to be fully determined because my brothers have inconsistent schedules.
00:54:36
Cokeley Brothers
But anyway, how...
00:54:37
Ryne & Reese
blame it on that.
00:54:40
Ryne & Reese
Jobs. You mean your brothers have jobs.
00:54:44
Cokeley Brothers
Jobs that that that implement inconsistent schedules...
00:54:45
Ryne & Reese
That require us to leave our house. That require us to leave our house. My schedule is fine tomorrow.
00:54:49
Cokeley Brothers
Right, right.
00:54:52
Ryne & Reese
His, he's he's on the road.
00:54:53
Cokeley Brothers
I
00:54:55
Cokeley Brothers
i have ah i have a job that requires me to leave the house. Wrestling practice.
00:55:04
Ryne & Reese
Fair enough.
00:55:05
Cokeley Brothers
And it's consistent. ah I'm not blaming you guys. I'm just explaining. How do you guys feel about Wyatt at Worlds?
00:55:10
Ryne & Reese
Okay. Very blamey. Yeah. Very blamey. Wyatt? How do I feel about Wyatt?
00:55:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:18
Ryne & Reese
I mean, the dude knows how to compete at the world level.
00:55:22
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. How do you see him wrestling against a guy like Zari?
00:55:23
Ryne & Reese
He'll be ready.
00:55:28
Ryne & Reese
Dude, I think he's a good matchup for Zari.
00:55:30
Cokeley Brothers
i I don't disagree. And I think like what Trent Hilger was able to do to Wyatt to score on him, we will not see Zari do.
00:55:36
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, Zari is not going to do any of that shit.

Gino Petriashvili's Legacy

00:55:39
Ryne & Reese
I heard Masumi is leaving Iran.
00:55:41
Ryne & Reese
He's going to Armenia.
00:55:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, he's going to be in Armenia.
00:55:44
Cokeley Brothers
And he might be, i don't know if he's going ready this year, but maybe next year.
00:55:47
Ryne & Reese
You won't be ready to do it. No, no, no. Didn't Yanni tell us it's like a process? Or is that just for Americans?
00:55:52
Cokeley Brothers
It's a, so, so here's, here's how it works.
00:55:53
Ryne & Reese
You will not be ready.
00:55:54
Cokeley Brothers
Here's, here's how works. UWW has implemented a, like you can, you can tack on an additional fee for ah world team members, world medalists and Olympic medalists.
00:56:09
Cokeley Brothers
um But Zara is none of that. He's never made a world team. He's never medaled at worlds or Masumi, Masumi, Masumi, not including age level.
00:56:13
Ryne & Reese
Sorry. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did it? Did it? No, I know. and We knew.
00:56:21
Ryne & Reese
And it does not include age level. Should 100% include age level.
00:56:21
Cokeley Brothers
not including age level.
00:56:23
Cokeley Brothers
As far as I can tell, this is my understanding of it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
00:56:29
Cokeley Brothers
ah And so the expense is lower. Now there still should be for, as far as I can tell, all cases, a two or three year waiting period, cooling off period.
00:56:42
Cokeley Brothers
ah But there's some way around that somehow. I don't fully know what the answer is but for that, but plenty of people have been saying that Zari will likely get his way around that.
00:56:54
Cokeley Brothers
What was that?
00:56:55
Ryne & Reese
Money, money, money. Throwing it at
00:56:57
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe, maybe, I don't know.
00:56:58
Ryne & Reese
Throw money at problems. money, money. Yeah.
00:57:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I mean, and we've, we've seen it like, um, God, who was the last, uh, significant name to transfer?
00:57:14
Cokeley Brothers
Karuglyev. Karuglyev didn't have any waiting period.
00:57:14
Ryne & Reese
yeah
00:57:18
Cokeley Brothers
He switched from Russia to Greece right away. ah I feel like Sabalov had a waiting period though. Maybe.
00:57:25
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:57:25
Cokeley Brothers
I can't. and don't
00:57:26
Ryne & Reese
RIP. The um moose most definitely had them writing waiting period.
00:57:36
Ryne & Reese
Dude, disappeared.
00:57:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:37
Ryne & Reese
That was so long ago. He disappeared and then showed back up all of a sudden for hungry.
00:57:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. yeah
00:57:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Um.
00:57:45
Ryne & Reese
Oh, right.
00:57:47
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah, we're probably not going to see Masumi this year.
00:57:48
Ryne & Reese
They absolutely got boned.
00:57:51
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe we'll see him next year.
00:57:52
Ryne & Reese
Boned.
00:57:52
Cokeley Brothers
don't know. We'll see. But yeah, I mean...
00:57:55
Ryne & Reese
I like ah like against Zara.
00:57:56
Cokeley Brothers
i
00:57:57
Ryne & Reese
I think he'll be able to match the hand fight probably, hopefully, and the strength.
00:58:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. what but i what i What I hope to see from Wyatt is...
00:58:06
Ryne & Reese
Not getting baited into shots.
00:58:09
Cokeley Brothers
Well, yeah, and not being quite as direct as he is with his offense.
00:58:14
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:58:15
Cokeley Brothers
he's It's very linear. ah
00:58:19
Ryne & Reese
Real quick.
00:58:22
Ryne & Reese
Gino and Tahok. Retired? No, Gino is not retired.
00:58:24
Cokeley Brothers
pretty Well, Taha for sure. Gino probably. As far as I can tell.
00:58:28
Ryne & Reese
Gino is probably? no he's not retired. He's wrestling?
00:58:32
Cokeley Brothers
He hasn't competed though.
00:58:33
Ryne & Reese
He hasn't competed? Well, I mean, only like 30, though.
00:58:35
Cokeley Brothers
He hasn't competed since Paris.
00:58:37
Ryne & Reese
It's true.
00:58:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but I mean, retire on top, right?
00:58:43
Ryne & Reese
true
00:58:45
Cokeley Brothers
You to out there and wrestle Zari again? Absolutely not.
00:58:48
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, I wouldn't if I were him. He did collect all the colors of the medals in Olympics.
00:58:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, dude, he got the he got the metal rainbow. What else is there to do?
00:58:57
Ryne & Reese
hasn't gotten fifth yet. Hasn't gotten fifth.
00:59:00
Cokeley Brothers
You don't get a medal for that. You don't get a medal.
00:59:02
Ryne & Reese
You get a clear one.

Wrestlers' Careers and Growth

00:59:03
Cokeley Brothers
Because then, you yeah, you can go take 11th, you can go take whatever, like take sixteenth whatever like Just take your medals. Take your medals and go.
00:59:13
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:59:15
Ryne & Reese
Take your medals and go.
00:59:16
Cokeley Brothers
And he did it in order.
00:59:16
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
00:59:16
Cokeley Brothers
He went third, second, first.
00:59:19
Ryne & Reese
did do it in order. All according to plan.
00:59:21
Cokeley Brothers
He climbed the podium.
00:59:22
Ryne & Reese
That's called batting around. No, wait. He has said a home run.
00:59:26
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah I don't think, I don't think, I don't know. I don't think we're going to see Petrashvili, but maybe we do. That would be a match for Wyatt.
00:59:33
Ryne & Reese
Well, maybe we'll see young Petroshvili.
00:59:34
Cokeley Brothers
That wouldd be a real match.
00:59:36
Ryne & Reese
Petroshvili.
00:59:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but he's not heavyweight. At least not yet.
00:59:41
Ryne & Reese
He'll be heavyweight. He'll be heavyweight.
00:59:43
Cokeley Brothers
he's He was U-17 last year, wasn't he?
00:59:47
Ryne & Reese
Was he that young? I don't know.
00:59:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. No, he wrestled he wrest with Elijah Diakmahalas at U-17s.
00:59:52
Ryne & Reese
ah
00:59:54
Ryne & Reese
We're not going see you at Josh Vance.
00:59:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:59:54
Cokeley Brothers
We've got some time. We've probably got like two or three years until we see him.
00:59:58
Ryne & Reese
Two or three years. We'll see you in Los Angeles. Gino was 20 his first year, maybe 21.
01:00:03
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. Okay, so yeah, two or three years.
01:00:06
Ryne & Reese
Or 20. He's not set. 2015 his... I think that was his first year. 2014 he was juniors. He got busted. He got busted.
01:00:17
Ryne & Reese
Whatever. Whatever, dude. What you mean? He cheated. He smoked. ah He didn't need

Future Medal Predictions

01:00:22
Ryne & Reese
it. Whatever he was taking, he certainly didn't need it. What did you say? He was smoking. What were you going to say? What did say? I don't know.
01:00:28
Ryne & Reese
He smoked. He changed up on this. What were you going to say? spoke what did it what did i say i don't know you said he's smoke ah He He
01:00:34
Cokeley Brothers
You said smoked.
01:00:36
Ryne & Reese
another where we gonna say
01:00:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:00:38
Ryne & Reese
smoking no i think i was go say he smoked he smoked steroids as the oh dad i did so
01:00:49
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Closing thoughts.
01:00:51
Ryne & Reese
So, all right. How do we feel? How many medals are we bringing home?
01:00:56
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
01:01:00
Ryne & Reese
I have a number.
01:01:07
Ryne & Reese
don't. Well, I don't yet because I don't know what's happening at 61.
01:01:07
Cokeley Brothers
I have a number.
01:01:11
Ryne & Reese
You don't think either one of them?
01:01:13
Cokeley Brothers
I have I mean, regardless of 61, I have a number.
01:01:15
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, you don't think either one of them?
01:01:19
Ryne & Reese
If he's beating Vito, he can medal. He can, but I don't know if he will. It's so hard, dude. It's true. It's so hard. It's hard. Especially for a guy โ€“ well, I don't know. He's so good now. i feel like he's just gotten so much better. you right You're right. You're right. i Trust me.
01:01:34
Ryne & Reese
I will be cheering for it. I don't know be picking it. If he does. You know what mean? going
01:01:44
Ryne & Reese
to go โ€“ Is that for Duke? That was for Duke and Carr. Yeah.
01:01:51
Ryne & Reese
and
01:01:51
Cokeley Brothers
I have a number.
01:01:54
Cokeley Brothers
Seven.
01:01:55
Ryne & Reese
I'm going to go six. i don't know. One, two, hold on. Three, four.
01:02:06
Ryne & Reese
Five without veto. Six with it.
01:02:12
Ryne & Reese
There you have it.
01:02:15
Cokeley Brothers
We don't think Trent's going to medal.
01:02:18
Ryne & Reese
No, I have it. Spencer Lee, David Carr,
01:02:28
Ryne & Reese
Zahid, Trent, and... Snyder? Oh. I don't have Snyder.
01:02:37
Cokeley Brothers
No Snyder medal.
01:02:38
Ryne & Reese
What's Snyder?
01:02:41
Ryne & Reese
He didn't medal last time.
01:02:42
Cokeley Brothers
Damn.

Yoshida vs. Snyder Analysis

01:02:43
Ryne & Reese
I guess he's still going to have Saddy Cakes.
01:02:44
Cokeley Brothers
That was Olympics.
01:02:49
Cokeley Brothers
Sadie, Zunidov, and Azapira, the same group, the same contingent.
01:02:52
Ryne & Reese
Yeah.
01:02:53
Cokeley Brothers
Well, actually, no, one more on top of what he had at at the Olympics.
01:02:57
Ryne & Reese
Yeah. True. True. It's going to
01:03:00
Cokeley Brothers
But are they all going to be in the same half? That's the real question.
01:03:04
Ryne & Reese
be tough. Well, are there seeds already? Are any of them seeded?
01:03:08
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but they do the ranking series nonsense. ah
01:03:11
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, but they should have.
01:03:12
Cokeley Brothers
You know who else you know who else saidulla or Snyder's to have to deal with? Arash Yoshida.
01:03:19
Ryne & Reese
Ishida?
01:03:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yoshida, who beat ah Snyder earlier this year.
01:03:23
Ryne & Reese
Oh, dang. Didn't he say something like, yeah, he wasn't trying.
01:03:26
Cokeley Brothers
It was...
01:03:28
Ryne & Reese
Didn't Yoshida say that about Snyder?
01:03:29
Cokeley Brothers
No, Yoshida was like, I got...
01:03:31
Ryne & Reese
I got lucky.
01:03:32
Cokeley Brothers
i I got lucky. yeah and And he did. Snyder tried to hit this ah goofy go-behind where you like step your your leg into his armpit and like wrap around that way instead of circling behind.
01:03:44
Cokeley Brothers
And Yoshida caught him and and sent him to his back from that. Otherwise, Snyder would have won that match.
01:03:47
Ryne & Reese
He pinned him?
01:03:49
Cokeley Brothers
But Snyder had no reason to go for that.
01:03:51
Ryne & Reese
He pinned him?
01:03:53
Cokeley Brothers
No, he but he like held him there for a while and then was able to hold off because it was like late in the second period.

Who Might Medal?

01:04:01
Ryne & Reese
So you did like the chat
01:04:02
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, but yeah, I mean, I, dude, I, I feel, I feel certain, I feel certain that Spencer's going to metal and really good about him winning it. Uh, I think Jackson or Vito would metal, uh, real woods is going have to do some crazy stuff to metal PJ Duke. I really, I don't know.
01:04:16
Cokeley Brothers
I don't, I don't expect it, but I'm ready to be wrong as I have been every step of the way.
01:04:21
Ryne & Reese
there. I'm going to be wrong.
01:04:22
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, 74, Dave, David Karkin metal 79.
01:04:28
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i'm I'm saying Levi Haynes won't medal, but I am ready to be wrong. 86, Zahid. Ken Metal, 92. Trent Heidly, 97. ninety seven Kyle Snyder, and 125, White Hendrickson.
01:04:43
Cokeley Brothers
But I'm not picking 10 golds. I can't do that again.
01:04:44
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, man. I mean, we just kind of like, you know. Like last time. Where you picked like six golds at Olympics.

Reflecting on Past Predictions

01:04:53
Cokeley Brothers
think I did.
01:04:54
Ryne & Reese
and I picked five.
01:04:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:55
Ryne & Reese
Excuse me. There's not six weight classes, Reese. Oh, yeah, there is. I picked I picked five, though. I know I didn't pick six.
01:05:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, because you you you put Petrusvili as the winner at heavyweight.
01:05:10
Ryne & Reese
Picked him. I think I did. Maybe did. I hope I did.
01:05:15
Cokeley Brothers
right. Any closing thoughts?
01:05:18
Ryne & Reese
i don't think I picked Brooks either. Now I think no i think I only picked four. You picked Brooks. I don't think I picked Brooks, dude. You love Brooks.

Inviting Verification from Listeners

01:05:25
Ryne & Reese
Stop it. It's just not true.
01:05:26
Cokeley Brothers
Well, hey, just go back and listen. You can find out.
01:05:29
Ryne & Reese
I don't do that. Listeners, go back and let us know.
01:05:32
Cokeley Brothers
It's all on record.
01:05:33
Ryne & Reese
Thank you, please.
01:05:36
Cokeley Brothers
What are you talking to me?
01:05:37
Ryne & Reese
listeners. talking to the listeners.
01:05:38
Cokeley Brothers
Listeners.
01:05:38
Ryne & Reese
Aiden Johnson.
01:05:39
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Yeah. Somebody go.
01:05:40
Ryne & Reese
Aiden Johnson, talking to you.
01:05:42
Cokeley Brothers
There you go. All right. Anything else?
01:05:48
Ryne & Reese
Yeah, but I can't remember.
01:05:50
Ryne & Reese
Me neither.
01:05:50
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
01:05:51
Cokeley Brothers
Reese. All right.

Closing Remarks and Humor

01:05:53
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you everybody for listening. um Do all those things that you're supposed to do. Brush your teeth. ah Take the trash out.
01:05:59
Ryne & Reese
Your vegetables.
01:06:00
Cokeley Brothers
Subscribe. In that order. Have a good day.
01:06:03
Ryne & Reese
Chick-fil-A. Resist.
01:06:07
Cokeley Brothers
And goodbye.