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PWL 9 and Ranking Series Results + Lineup Looks - Session 87
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We look at this past week's international Men's Freestyle results as Team USA Sent a squad to Budapest, Hungary to compete in the final Ranking Series Event of the year as well as PWL 9 - Russia vs USA. Along with that, we look at some lineups for the upcoming season in Iowa State and Stanford.
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Transcript
Introduction and Gablegame Curiosity
00:00:00
Reese
in the brain do it.
00:00:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yep, they do start it off with some Gablegame, which is oh its it always warms my heart to see. so guess not i don't know if they do it every day.
00:00:06
Ryne
Like every episode?
00:00:09
Cokeley Brothers
I haven't watched the last couple of episodes, but it's been like that they did at least like four episodes in a row they were where they started it off.
00:00:09
Reese
Pretty much it feels like every episode now.
00:00:15
Ryne
i have ah haven't listened i haven't listened to them in about a month.
00:00:19
Cokeley Brothers
haven't I haven't listened to them since Fargo. I just haven't. don't know. But
Barn Session and Wrestler Guessing Game
00:00:23
Cokeley Brothers
hey, we're here. Welcome back to the Barn Session. We're all the hosts. We decided that last episode, but you didn't hear that.
00:00:31
Cokeley Brothers
So, Rich is trying to guess who the wrestler is for the day. Has he figured out what weight it is?
00:00:36
Reese
Yep. No, I haven't even made my first guess yet. um'm
00:00:41
Cokeley Brothers
Are you perusing?
00:00:42
Reese
No. um I'm trying to remember the Binghamton 65 pounder.
00:00:44
Ryne
Are you perusing?
00:00:50
Cokeley Brothers
Brevin Casella. No, he's 74.
00:00:51
Reese
Well, whatever.
00:00:51
Cokeley Brothers
He's 74. fine. Yep. that's fine
00:00:55
Reese
That's not going be my first guess.
00:00:56
Cokeley Brothers
okay
00:00:57
Reese
All right. Well, that was way off.
00:01:01
Ryne
Way up.
00:01:02
Cokeley Brothers
While he's guessing that, we've got some international results to look at. ah some Some exciting ones, too. And then, Ryan, are we looking at some lineups today?
00:01:17
Cokeley Brothers
Did we lose? Oh, he's gone.
00:01:19
Reese
Where'd go?
00:01:20
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Ryan, are we are we looking at some lineups today?
00:01:25
Ryne
Oh, yeah, I was gonna prepare that and I did a bad job bad rhyme.
00:01:30
Cokeley Brothers
Bad Ryan. Are they... To what degree are they prepared then?
00:01:35
Ryne
I mean, they're not on paper if that's what you're asking.
00:01:39
Reese
Much closer with my second guess.
00:01:39
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm.
00:01:42
Cokeley Brothers
Where are you at, Reese?
00:01:43
Reese
Brock Zyrowski.
00:01:43
Ryne
Who's your second guess?
00:01:44
Reese
i i thought I was like, who's the dude who beat Wyatt Volker in the first round? And that was that was who that was.
00:01:52
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm. Actually, that'll get you pretty close.
00:01:53
Reese
Yeah.
00:01:58
Ryne
You're never going to get it
00:01:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I just don't think you know who the wrestler is.
00:02:01
Reese
Probably not. So I'm just, you know, you know what that means.
00:02:03
Ryne
get it. think I got it. I think I got it in four today.
00:02:05
Reese
what I'm going to do then?
00:02:06
Ryne
Or maybe three. I might have got it in three.
00:02:08
Cokeley Brothers
i I ripped off like five guesses so I could figure out the conference.
00:02:15
Cokeley Brothers
I've gotten pretty good at like having my little, my little system.
00:02:17
Reese
why Why is Jacob Van D and Shane Van Ness, why are they at the bottom of every...
00:02:22
Cokeley Brothers
ah So because, because for some reason when I was working on getting it, so you know how their, their names are, are their last names are two, two words for some reason that
00:02:28
Reese
Fuck.
00:02:33
Reese
Yeah.
00:02:36
Cokeley Brothers
spaced it out in a way where it had like this special character because there was some, there was some character typing translations as computer science nonsense that caused them to have a special character in there. And I wanted to get rid of that. I also had Malachi Duvall in there. I think I had his name spelled wrong.
00:02:53
Cokeley Brothers
And I think gaybe Gabe, Gabe Willichell was in there as Gable Willichell, I think. So I had a couple that I had to fix. And so they're
00:03:01
Reese
Bro,
International Wrestling Results and Discussions
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Cokeley Brothers
at the bottom now.
00:03:02
Reese
I'm just fucking...
00:03:03
Ryne
table with it.
00:03:03
Reese
Sorry, I'm whiffing right now.
00:03:07
Cokeley Brothers
That's okay.
00:03:08
Reese
Sam Mitchell, no and Nolan Neves, and carn Connor Barkett. None of them are freshmen, for one.
00:03:15
Cokeley Brothers
No, but that should help you narrow down the conference.
00:03:18
Reese
oh yeah, because I haven't even been thinking about the conference. I've been just throwing names.
00:03:23
Cokeley Brothers
that Once you figure out the weight, the next thing you to figure out is the conference.
00:03:27
Reese
yeah Yeah, i got a I got four conferences in here. I guess SoCon, five.
00:03:32
Cokeley Brothers
Out of how many guesses?
00:03:36
Reese
I just did two ACC guys. i didn't know I don't know where Connor Barkett went.
00:03:38
Cokeley Brothers
You might be in trouble.
00:03:41
Reese
I mean, Duke. I didn't know he...
00:03:43
Cokeley Brothers
didn't know Duke had any qualifiers this year.
00:03:44
Reese
Yeah.
00:03:46
Cokeley Brothers
Did they qualify like all their heavyweights?
00:03:46
Ryne
the heavyweight.
00:03:50
Ryne
They're like, they're like, almost, you know, they're they're kind of heavyweight you almost.
00:03:50
Cokeley Brothers
everybody Everybody but Virginia. yeah, a little bit.
00:03:59
Reese
They are not even close.
00:04:01
Ryne
They've had, it's definitely their most successful weight.
00:04:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean, if if Duke can throw their name into to into contention for any weight, it would be heavyweight. That would be their best bet. But Minnesota would...
00:04:13
Ryne
They would be heavyweight you it'd be like top five
00:04:15
Cokeley Brothers
They would be more than Cornell would be.
00:04:17
Ryne
Yeah.
00:04:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:04:20
Ryne
Look at Reese's Shaker. He doesn't even know what he's talking about. He can't even guess the wrestler.
00:04:24
Cokeley Brothers
yeah yeah
00:04:26
Reese
Yeah, I'm so screwed.
00:04:30
Reese
I'm down to one guess.
00:04:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. While Reese is screwed...
00:04:33
Ryne
Go to, uh, just do the brackets Reese.
00:04:37
Cokeley Brothers
i don't I don't know if that's going to help him either.
00:04:38
Reese
right I'll do the brackets.
00:04:39
Cokeley Brothers
All right. We had a set of wrestlers take to the mat in Budapest, Hungary for the final ranking series tournament of the year.
00:04:47
Reese
I'll do my PEBs.
00:04:52
Cokeley Brothers
And, you know, we had some, I would say overall we had some pretty good results. So let's take a look at some of those. We had two champs and two bronze.
00:05:06
Cokeley Brothers
in men's freestyle and then in women's we had ah champ and one two three four bronze and then we did not no we had more than that five bronze two champs women's freestyle okay no placers in greco becca melilla shreely took fifth that was our closest he had a yeah yeah he actually he did pretty well i'd say So yeah, men's freestyle.
00:05:36
Cokeley Brothers
Luke Lilladol won his bracket. He had... a I think he was trailing in all of his matches. And... Came back and won all of them.
00:05:47
Cokeley Brothers
And his his win in the finals was over ah Islam Bazarganov, who I think is... i don't remember where exactly he is in the rankings, but he's up there. So Luke Lilladol is continuing to kind of prove that he is...
00:06:03
Cokeley Brothers
a name to be to pay attention to at the senior level of 57 kilos so that's that's cool to see because i mean i don't know about you guys but i kind of i kind of doubted whether he would really be somebody who should be in the top five uh but it kind of feels like it makes sense at this point so about what call
00:06:23
Reese
Well, how do we feel about that call?
00:06:23
Ryne
Sure.
00:06:28
Reese
The out-of-bounds call.
00:06:30
Cokeley Brothers
are you talking about pwl i'm not even there yet
00:06:32
Reese
No, no, no. I'm talking about Liladon Bazarganov.
00:06:37
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, no no no, no, no, no.
00:06:37
Ryne
No, no, no, no. No, you're right.
00:06:39
Cokeley Brothers
So you're you're talking about ah talking about like his opening match where they like both put their hand down?
00:06:39
Ryne
You're right.
00:06:43
Reese
Oh, that wasn't Bazarganov?
00:06:44
Cokeley Brothers
i was against That was about those against ah Nicholas Stetschle from Germany.
00:06:46
Reese
Oh.
00:06:53
Reese
ah
00:06:54
Cokeley Brothers
ah And I mean, i think there's a pretty well-defined rule in terms of how to handle that. And
Controversial Wrestling Calls and Analysis
00:07:01
Cokeley Brothers
it seems like they got it right, but um I don't know.
00:07:04
Reese
Well, like, what is the rule?
00:07:04
Cokeley Brothers
The refs were not perfect at this tournament. Something about...
00:07:10
Cokeley Brothers
If...
00:07:10
Reese
It looked to me like they both hit the mat at the same time.
00:07:14
Cokeley Brothers
Right. if I know. but So they went with the call on the mat, which was Liladol. But they they they needed to...
00:07:21
Reese
Oh, okay.
00:07:22
Cokeley Brothers
They they did have to give somebody a score. Basically, the ruling was saying that if action goes out of bounds, but the first thing to hit is a hand, you know something something to that effect, um there needs to be a step-out called.
00:07:33
Cokeley Brothers
And so they...
00:07:34
Reese
Well, didn't Liladol his hand first?
00:07:36
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
00:07:37
Reese
That's what I thought.
00:07:39
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so. It didn't look like it. It looked like very close, but it looked more like the...
00:07:41
Reese
I thought Will at all hit his hand first and they both hit their head at the same time.
00:07:45
Cokeley Brothers
I'll have to review it. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong.
00:07:50
Cokeley Brothers
But yeah, that was his first match against the German. The kid from Germany is tough. so Honestly, all of his guys were. Rahul from India and Bazarganov from Azerbaijan. They're all tough.
00:08:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And then our other champ was Trent Heidly, and he had he he had quite the tournament. He took out... Hang on, let me pull up the rankings here so that I can give you accurate rankings. He took out number five, Abubkar Abukarov, in round one. He beat him seven to two.
00:08:19
Cokeley Brothers
He teched Hungary's Christian Angyal, ten to zero. ah Beat Don Krugliev, who was ranked number one. He got the opening takedown and then it looked like in that exchange, Kruglyev jacked his knee up.
00:08:32
Cokeley Brothers
ah And it, it looks kind of serious. So I don't know if we're going to see Kruglyev, at least not at full health ah by the time Worlds comes around, but hopefully we do because.
00:08:42
Reese
You don't even tell me who the who the actual person was when I lose.
00:08:48
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:08:49
Reese
Who was it?
00:08:50
Cokeley Brothers
Does it, does it show it in this? Go to open up stats.
00:08:55
Cokeley Brothers
ah Steven Monchery from ah app App State, I think.
00:09:02
Ryne
So did you not get it, Reese?
00:09:04
Reese
SoCon!
00:09:07
Reese
so
00:09:07
Cokeley Brothers
He did not. He did not get it.
00:09:09
Ryne
Damn.
00:09:10
Cokeley Brothers
And then in the finals, in the finals, he got a 7-2 win over Miriani Miserads from Georgia, who is ranked ninth.
00:09:10
Ryne
I've never not gotten it.
00:09:19
Cokeley Brothers
So he beat beat number five and number nine and in a way beat number one. So kind of proving that he is at the very least third best guy in the world. So it's a good look.
00:09:32
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:09:33
Reese
proving beyond a doubt.
00:09:34
Cokeley Brothers
I, I like the way it looked.
00:09:37
Reese
Who are we talking about?
00:09:37
Cokeley Brothers
J.I. Yellow, Trent Heidley, J.I. Yellow took third at 97 kilos.
00:09:39
Reese
Oh, yeah.
00:09:43
Cokeley Brothers
um He lost to Zbigniew Baranowski and then um got a pin over Vicky from India and tech over Juwan Seo from Korea.
00:09:48
Reese
How old is that, dude?
00:09:55
Cokeley Brothers
How old is J.I. Yellow?
00:09:56
Reese
Baranowski.
00:09:58
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, he's been around for a while, I think.
00:09:58
Reese
That dude is old. I think that's the dude who beat Jaden Cox and prompted David Taylor to tweet
00:10:09
Cokeley Brothers
it is Tweet his tweet. ah He's 34. 34. Yeah, and it was a 6-6. Honestly, JIL not... JIL is pretty good at freestyle.
00:10:25
Cokeley Brothers
I like the way he looks.
00:10:27
Reese
He lost to an old man.
00:10:27
Cokeley Brothers
But... 6-6 criteria.
00:10:30
Reese
from Poland.
00:10:32
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he's ranked.
00:10:36
Reese
Yeah, it's true.
00:10:36
Cokeley Brothers
So that's at least something. And then our other bronze medalist was, um David Carr. And he had he had quite the tournament.
USA vs Russia PWL Event Recap
00:10:45
Cokeley Brothers
ah Beat Teron Byramov and Orozbek Toktomambetov from Kyrgyzstan.
00:10:52
Cokeley Brothers
ah And then in the semis, he had Kota Takahashi, who took out Sakazanov in the round before. And this is quite the interesting match. This is Takahashi's first competition back since he hurt himself at the non-Olympic Worlds last year. And...
00:11:10
Cokeley Brothers
looks really strong, uh, and is still quite capable. He beat David Carr nine to seven, but, uh, all of David's points came late in the match. So Takahashi is somebody who seems to kind of fade in his matches. Kind of like, uh, kind like Musakayev also has that very explosive motion to get to that blast double like, like Musakayev.
00:11:30
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, but I don't know I think this is a match that David Carr can win.
00:11:35
Reese
Well, so this was another controversial call, right?
00:11:35
Cokeley Brothers
And I think,
00:11:38
Cokeley Brothers
Kind of, yeah, there was there was a couple things that happened here. um Right off the bat, I think David Carr takes a shot and Takahashi gets in on a re-attack and then drives Carr out of bounds.
00:11:50
Cokeley Brothers
And Carr's like kind of bear crawling along with it. But you can see the force is definitely being driven by Takahashi. But then they go they go one caution one off that. um And then there was another exchange where I feel like they...
00:12:02
Reese
There's a test wrap, right? The car for test wrap.
00:12:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yes. So Takahashi dove in on a double. David stops it completely stops the motion with a chest wrap um to the point where Takahashi drags his feet and at his feet get lifted up in the air.
00:12:16
Cokeley Brothers
And then Carr kind of sits back and tilts him over to the side rather than just trying to take him straight back, showing a change in direction. And then they just settled on the exchange and said, ah two for Takahashi, nothing for David Carr.
00:12:29
Cokeley Brothers
which i I get that you're rewarding the aggressor, but with the way David stopped, completely stopped the position and changed his direction, feel like that's kind of a textbook definition from what I know to be a score that should go in David Carr's favor.
00:12:43
Cokeley Brothers
Or at least two and two. But... um even Even with that in mind, and with the next match included, he got a 4-4 win over Salkazana for bronze, a match that he lost earlier this year, I think David Carr looks really good.
00:13:00
Cokeley Brothers
I think he's going to be somebody who is contending for a medal, and with his offense... I think it kind of depends on the David Carr that we see. Because we saw him at World Team Trials where it seemed like he wasn't able to generate much offense or get to his leg attacks.
00:13:16
Cokeley Brothers
But at this tournament, basically every time he got in on his shots, he was sting staying consistently in good position, even through all the tricks that these Europeans were giving him, and was able to slowly collect the position to get scores.
00:13:33
Cokeley Brothers
And so if we see that at Worlds, I think David Carr is a, uh, metal contender, maybe even a title contender. So I really liked that. Really like seeing that.
00:13:44
Cokeley Brothers
So I'm happy. I'm happy to, to see that for our 74 kilogram rep. Uh, yeah. And that's hungry. Well, that's the ranking series.
00:13:53
Ryne
I'm hungry.
00:13:56
Cokeley Brothers
You should have eaten before this. It's late. Okay.
00:13:57
Ryne
just kidding. I did eat. I also had what you had. The za.
00:14:01
Cokeley Brothers
Pizza pizza. Okay. And the other event that went down was PWL nine. If you don't know what PWL, it is the professional things. Actually, is it just, it might just be professional wrestling league.
00:14:18
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe I feel like there's no way.
00:14:22
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe hang on. Yeah. Professional wrestling league. That's funny. ah It's a Russian wrestling league and they had a duel between the United States and Russia called USA versus Russia wrestling for peace, which was an interesting way of phrasing it. But um it was good. I think it was a good event.
00:14:47
Cokeley Brothers
ah There was... uh uh unfortunately seth gross was set to wrestle in it he wrestled in budapest at the ranking series and got hurt seemingly and had to pull out so dylan kuntz who's a ah greco specialist filled in for him um and you know it was a duel where there was like an actual team decided as a winner not just a set of 10 matches and uh russia won at six to four and in terms of matches and Now, I think there's a lot of really good wrestling in here.
00:15:21
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if you guys got the chance to watch it or not, but no, Ryan.
00:15:25
Reese
He's
00:15:27
Ryne
I've watched the clips.
00:15:29
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan's watched the clips. Did you watch my clips?
00:15:30
Reese
got the highlights.
00:15:32
Cokeley Brothers
You watch my clips, Ryan?
00:15:34
Ryne
All of them. Whichever ones I can get my hands on.
00:15:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. So 57 kilos, Musa Mektikanov, Mektikanov, something like that, beat Luke Lilladol This was an interesting match.
00:15:52
Cokeley Brothers
um Because Luke was winning ah five to three late. like... ah and it seemed like He was continuing to work on his offense and try and get to scores.
00:16:05
Cokeley Brothers
And it ended in an exchange where Musa got to a go behind, but they're up on their feet. And Luke kind of works himself towards the out of bounds. They call a takedown and a ah caution in one. So it's six to five short time left.
00:16:20
Cokeley Brothers
Luke goes for broke, loses eight to five. um a match that he definitely could have won, which is very interesting because that's the number four guy in the world. So more proof that Luke Lillodal is a name at 57 kilos. And if he continues to be around at this weight for the next, for the rest of the cycle, I don't, if I'm Spencer Lee, I'm not saying this is for sure my weight class for team USA, because you have, you know, probably one of the next best guys at the weight also contending for that spot.
00:16:52
Cokeley Brothers
So Something to look at.
00:16:57
Reese
look at.
00:16:58
Cokeley Brothers
But after that first half of this, this duel was ugly. Uh, Coons got teched by, ah the other Mekta Mekta Khan of, uh, Abbas Ghazi Magomedov tech CJ Composto, uh, cyan.
00:17:14
Cokeley Brothers
Kazirik teched Bryce Antonian 13-0 in like a minute and a half. This was this was one of the this is probably the ugliest match of the bracket, or the duel. I mean, i think Bryce Antonian, if he wants to be able to contend with... I don't i doubt he's gonna he's going to change anything about about the way he wrestles.
00:17:35
Cokeley Brothers
But you can't let you can't let at least the Russians get in so deep on your on shots and then expect that they're going to
00:17:35
Reese
Never change.
00:17:46
Cokeley Brothers
ah feed into the funk. Because they're just very fundamental. I mean, this guy picked apart Andonian, and it was impressive. But also not really. like it just you You knew it was going to happen.
00:18:00
Cokeley Brothers
so
00:18:02
Cokeley Brothers
ah And then after that, Joey Blaze had a good match against Debir Gidziev, 74 kilos. And then Dean Hamity pins number five in the world.
00:18:13
Cokeley Brothers
After he was down eight to four at one point, makes ah Makes a comeback, is up 12-8 and gets the pin with a minute and a half left in the match. Marcus Coleman, late in his match, takes out ah number 19 in the world, Amanula Rasulov.
00:18:26
Cokeley Brothers
Mike Machiavelli is basically battling with Amanula Gadsimago Medov at 92 kilos and in it and wins that match 10-6. And then J. Aiello wins his match eight to one So boom, boom, boom. all the all All a sudden, just like that, the match is five to four The dual score is.
00:18:44
Cokeley Brothers
And then Trent Hilger's got Zelim Khan Kazryev. And i don't think this is going to be, i don't think he won Russian nationals. So I don't think this is going to be their rep, but he looked pretty good against Trent, which is a little concerning to me.
00:18:59
Cokeley Brothers
Wow. I have, I have checked both of you out.
00:19:02
Ryne
No, um'm I'm just thinking, did that kid really look good against Trent? I honestly, like, I didn't think that was Trent's best showing.
00:19:12
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, with the way I saw Trent wrestle Hendrickson, I was excited to see Trent wrestle other people.
00:19:18
Ryne
that's that's That's what I mean. um um
00:19:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:19:21
Ryne
I feel like Hilger, and I mean, I thought about, I thought this whenever Hilger was in college, like, he's got consistency issues sometimes. Yeah.
00:19:28
Cokeley Brothers
Right. I guess i didn't think about the fact that Trent also wrestled in Budapest or at the ranking series event. He went 0-1, lost to some guy from Kazakhstan, 9-2. So I don't think this was the best version of Hilbert.
00:19:41
Cokeley Brothers
He got teched. And it was like...
00:19:42
Ryne
He's just just very hit and miss sometimes.
00:19:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:19:45
Ryne
I don't like
00:19:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:19:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So... um And you know, this was like... This wasn't Russia's a squad. Completely. I think they're... I think...
00:19:59
Ryne
I'll tell you this. They were closer to their A squad than we were.
00:20:03
Cokeley Brothers
Correct.
USA Wrestling's International Presence
00:20:04
Cokeley Brothers
Correct. Right. Because like, Luke... Luke and... Actually, Blaze and Andonian aren't even on the ladder. And neither is...
00:20:16
Cokeley Brothers
Hammity... Nope, Hammity's... Hammity's third.
00:20:17
Ryne
And number three.
00:20:19
Cokeley Brothers
Hammity's third. Coleman is like fifth or something like that. I don't know where Mock is. i don't think he's third. J.I.L.O.? I don't know where he's at on the ladder either.
00:20:32
Cokeley Brothers
And Trent's number two. So... Yeah...
00:20:38
Ryne
Took two number twos and a number three.
00:20:41
Cokeley Brothers
Right, and then Blaze is fourth.
00:20:45
Cokeley Brothers
So, yeah.
00:20:46
Ryne
Which doesn't count.
00:20:48
Cokeley Brothers
I know.
00:20:49
Ryne
You're not on the national team.
00:20:49
Cokeley Brothers
But we can but can say he's he's he's there, you know?
00:20:54
Ryne
Took three national team members.
00:20:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:20:57
Ryne
How many does Russia have? I don't know.
00:21:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:21:00
Ryne
I'm asking Jen.
00:21:01
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, ah Russian national champs, 57, 61, 70... sixty one seventy I don't think Dabir Gudziev won it.
00:21:13
Cokeley Brothers
think Nasirkayev did, though.
00:21:17
Cokeley Brothers
But that might be it. I'm pretty sure... Yeah, Rasulov definitely didn't. Gadzimago Madov, I don't think, did either. And I know Pesh... Pesh...
00:21:29
Cokeley Brothers
Shinichnikov did not at 97.
00:21:32
Ryne
<unk>itch
00:21:32
Cokeley Brothers
yeah. I mean... um yeah not i mean I hope that we get to see this type of event more frequently moving forward. Like once a year, this would be nice. so i also, I didn't think USA wrestling had much to do with it, but then out walks Rich Bender and I'm like, oh, okay.
00:21:50
Cokeley Brothers
They must've had something to do with it.
00:21:51
Ryne
walks Richie B, the bender.
00:21:54
Cokeley Brothers
So that was our international results from the last week and the upcoming week we have U17 worlds, which will be fun.
00:22:04
Reese
Thank you.
00:22:04
Ryne
Bigly.
00:22:04
Cokeley Brothers
Tune in for that. Um, that'll be good.
00:22:10
Ryne
Bigly good.
00:22:11
Cokeley Brothers
That'll be really good. I don't know enough of the names, dude. I don't know enough of our reps, which is like crazy.
00:22:17
Ryne
Gray Burnett, baby. Let's go.
00:22:20
Cokeley Brothers
Gray Burnett. Uh, one of the, one of the mills Keegan Bassett,
00:22:23
Ryne
Fun facts. Sky Burnett, Iowa Central guy.
00:22:29
Cokeley Brothers
uh, Jane James.
00:22:29
Ryne
um up up
00:22:32
Cokeley Brothers
Um, ah The Arseni Kikinou.
00:22:39
Cokeley Brothers
Who else?
00:22:42
Cokeley Brothers
The bigger guys whose names I definitely don't know. Okay, that's all I got. Ryan, what do we got here?
00:22:47
Reese
Thank you.
00:22:49
Ryne
Oh, my turn.
00:22:51
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. What else do you want from me?
00:22:52
Ryne
Listen, went down to Iowa State couple these last couple of days. They just got done with the training phase down there.
00:22:59
Cokeley Brothers
oh Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Sammy Sanchez.
00:23:03
Ryne
OK. Are we done now?
00:23:04
Cokeley Brothers
Anyway. Yes.
00:23:06
Ryne
Moving on.
00:23:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
Iowa State Wrestling Team Updates
00:23:10
Ryne
Are you sure?
00:23:10
Cokeley Brothers
Besmer! Anyway.
00:23:11
Ryne
Oh, my God. All right. Um, past couple days went down to Iowa State, but got to watch some, some good training down there, took a couple of couple of my guys down there and, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna hurt you, Sammy.
00:23:23
Cokeley Brothers
Aaron Stewart.
00:23:27
Ryne
gonna hurt you real bad. Okay.
00:23:29
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. I'm sorry.
00:23:30
Ryne
So I was, I got to watch him. I was like, man, this team's gonna be tough. They got a lot of, lot of good dudes in there.
00:23:37
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, which team? Iowa State?
00:23:39
Ryne
Yes.
00:23:40
Cokeley Brothers
Hang on. Right now, keep going.
00:23:42
Ryne
I think we've already done lineup look for Iowa State, but it has since changed because they've picked up some picked up some guys.
00:23:50
Reese
Yeah, can read that.
00:23:53
Ryne
So
00:23:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but this... Here.
00:23:56
Ryne
what is that?
00:23:57
Reese
ah yeah, that makes it better.
00:23:57
Cokeley Brothers
can you
00:23:58
Ryne
I can't read that. It's blurry.
00:23:59
Cokeley Brothers
Can you read that?
00:24:00
Ryne
No.
00:24:00
Cokeley Brothers
Iowa State? It says Iowa State. So I printed out a list of the top five teams. ah That are going to be like...
00:24:11
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Way better this upcoming year than they were this last year. And Iowa State's my number two team. Maybe only did four.
00:24:17
Ryne
Who's number one? Who do you got number one?
00:24:20
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, yeah. I did four. Lehigh.
00:24:24
Reese
Rehigh.
00:24:25
Ryne
Yeah, we'll be 10.
00:24:25
Cokeley Brothers
Rehigh.
00:24:26
Ryne
But this team is deep.
00:24:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:24:31
Reese
So they can afford all the injuries that they're probably going to get, what you're saying.
00:24:31
Ryne
Deep.
00:24:31
Cokeley Brothers
Because...
00:24:37
Ryne
They looked pretty healthy.
00:24:40
Reese
Yeah.
00:24:40
Cokeley Brothers
ah here's Here's the real question. How big did Evan Frost look?
00:24:45
Ryne
You mean Jacob Frost?
00:24:47
Cokeley Brothers
How big did Evan Frost look?
00:24:49
Ryne
He looked like a 33-pounder, if I'm being honest with you. yeah
00:24:52
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, and then how big did Jacob Frost look?
00:24:54
Ryne
He looked huge. He looked...
00:24:55
Cokeley Brothers
And then what about Anthony Echemendia?
00:24:57
Ryne
he is definitely looking like he's going down to 41.
00:25:01
Cokeley Brothers
Damn.
00:25:02
Reese
ah So, are they twins?
00:25:03
Cokeley Brothers
Poor Cuban.
00:25:05
Ryne
Yes.
00:25:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:25:06
Reese
I mean, how much bigger can an identical twin get than the other? Really?
00:25:12
Cokeley Brothers
Well, depends on how much you feed them.
00:25:14
Reese
It's the nature versus nurture, I guess.
00:25:18
Ryne
Listen. Jacob looks huge. and He looks like he's going 49 for sure. Is he going to start? I don't know.
00:25:26
Reese
Over who? Panero?
00:25:28
Ryne
Well, see, that's what...
00:25:28
Reese
Or who's the other guy?
00:25:29
Ryne
Panero also... Panero looks like he can maybe make 49, but he also looks like he might be going 57. 65, dude.
00:25:36
Cokeley Brothers
What about 65?
00:25:39
Ryne
See, well, all right. Let's just start from the bottom here, all right?
00:25:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got three names.
00:25:45
Ryne
So it's probably going to be Steve-O, right?
00:25:48
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, shit. This list is but from before that. Okay, anyway.
00:25:50
Ryne
You see, and that's what I'm saying.
00:25:51
Reese
and
00:25:52
Ryne
That's what I'm saying.
00:25:53
Cokeley Brothers
I made this i made this list in, like, March.
00:25:53
Reese
Alright. Number one.
00:25:55
Ryne
Now, Steve O'Pouin, probably going to be your guy at 125. They'll probably red shirt Christian Castillo, I'm guessing. Now, okay.
00:26:05
Cokeley Brothers
What about Adrian Meza and Ethan Perryman?
00:26:08
Ryne
ah
00:26:09
Reese
Yeah, had a maze of luck.
00:26:09
Ryne
Meza is listed on their website as 33, and he looked like a 33-pounder to me too. But you never know. You never know. Things can change. One guy that you should probably keep an eye on, who an incoming freshman for them from Southeast Polk, Carter Pearson.
00:26:26
Reese
Oh yeah, he he's good.
00:26:28
Ryne
That dude was messing Steve-O up today. I'm just going to say
00:26:32
Reese
Really?
00:26:33
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Steve-o, no.
00:26:33
Ryne
Yes.
00:26:34
Reese
Yeah.
00:26:35
Ryne
Now, he also looked way...
00:26:36
Cokeley Brothers
started he started whispering, and Steve-o's ear, he said, my life be like.
00:26:39
Ryne
yeah yu He also looked like... I mean, he he's lanky. He's tall. He's lanky. Like... he fills out his frame to be like a more, he looks like he's in between 25 and 33 right now.
00:26:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:51
Ryne
That's what I'm trying to say.
00:26:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:52
Ryne
I'm not sure if he could make 25, if he could, that was, that might be a solid option for him. If, if Stevo, you know, gets hurt or something, but, but yeah, he, I mean, dude, he was putting Stevo to his back, cradle him up. He looked good.
00:27:09
Ryne
He looked really good.
00:27:10
Reese
My goodness.
00:27:11
Ryne
Um,
00:27:12
Cokeley Brothers
That's an all-American you're talking about there.
00:27:14
Ryne
No.
00:27:15
Ryne
Carter looked good. Carter looked good. 33, probably looking at Evan Frost. um Another guy to kind of keep your eye on, Garrett Grice.
00:27:15
Cokeley Brothers
That's high praise.
00:27:28
Cokeley Brothers
Grice.
00:27:29
Ryne
He's tough.
00:27:30
Cokeley Brothers
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long, long time.
00:27:32
Ryne
He's tough. And he was actually wrestling, you know what? Yeah, he looked, I'm pretty sure it was Jacob he was wrestling with, the bigger one. And he was kind of like, Jacob was kind of like pushing him around a little bit, like in the ham fight, not really scoring a whole lot of points on him, but Gary Grice, Gary Grice got the last one on him.
00:27:50
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:27:53
Ryne
So he looked good.
00:27:54
Cokeley Brothers
Nice.
00:27:55
Ryne
I, you know, but Evan also looked good. I was watching Evan. Evan also looked really, really good too.
00:28:00
Ryne
Um, Echimundia, I think is, uh, still kind of like, Slowly coming back.
00:28:00
Cokeley Brothers
Nice.
00:28:07
Cokeley Brothers
Healing.
00:28:08
Ryne
you know Not right. Yeah, he's he's not rushing. You know what I mean? So I didn't he He was he was doing a whole lot of stuff.
00:28:11
Cokeley Brothers
No, he's Cuban. That
00:28:14
Reese
Duh.
00:28:15
Ryne
He was doing a whole lot of ah Like hard hard drilling and stuff.
00:28:17
Cokeley Brothers
was a knee slapper right there.
00:28:19
Ryne
Not not really so much live um So and this is where things get tricky now, right?
00:28:27
Cokeley Brothers
I hope the people appreciate that joke.
00:28:30
Ryne
Yeah, well, I'm trying to do something here so
00:28:33
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, we can't add a little bit of humor to it.
00:28:34
Ryne
to This is where things get tricky.
00:28:36
Reese
No, so we can never, Sammy, we never get to add humor to year your little spiels.
00:28:40
Ryne
Yeah, no kidding. No kidding.
00:28:42
Cokeley Brothers
No, you do. i was sad when I was giving out these results and you guys were just like...
00:28:47
Reese
Yeah, but then we then we we say things and you're just like, and next on the list.
00:28:48
Ryne
i was dude I was listening and doing a this.
00:28:53
Reese
Never mind. Forget it.
00:28:56
Ryne
Anyway. um So 49, they got options, right? Pinero, if you, if you, if Pinero can come back down to 49, that might be solid form or Jacob Frost. Okay.
00:29:12
Ryne
Um, now if Pinero can't go 49, he's got to go 57, battle it out with Vinny Zerbin, I guess, or Vinny Zerbin goes up to 65. He's got the frame for it.
00:29:24
Ryne
It's pretty tall, lanky dude.
00:29:26
Cokeley Brothers
yeah i don't, I don't, 65 is crowded. sixty five s crowded
00:29:30
Ryne
Yeah, you got Connor Uten, Melton Poe, Aiden Reagans.
00:29:36
Ryne
There, yeah, they're crowded there.
00:29:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. It's not easy up there.
00:29:39
Ryne
But I was watching, man, Vinny and Pinero, they were going at it today. They were going at it today. It was good, back and forth, little back and forth there.
00:29:47
Cokeley Brothers
Beep boop.
00:29:49
Ryne
um but yeah and then 65 it could be you know if you know they could play with the lineup a little bit maybe move uh vinnie's urban up you know connor i think connor uten he's still uh coming back from his knee injury so i didn't really get to see him wrestle a whole lot alive you
00:30:04
Cokeley Brothers
Man. It's been so long for him and Echemendia.
00:30:09
Ryne
you just you know get you don't want to rush
00:30:11
Cokeley Brothers
I guess I've never had a knee injury, but I have had a spinal injury.
00:30:18
Ryne
do you feel like you came back to too soon?
00:30:18
Cokeley Brothers
So...
00:30:18
Reese
Well, you use your knees more than your spine, obviously.
00:30:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. I guess I'm saying, like, i i I don't get it, but I kind of do get it.
00:30:29
Ryne
But yeah.
00:30:30
Cokeley Brothers
Better to go slow than fast. Anyway.
00:30:33
Ryne
Um, yeah, you you, you know, but they, they like love that kid. newton He works super hard. He is tough. He's good.
00:30:41
Cokeley Brothers
Hell yeah.
00:30:41
Ryne
Um, I'm pretty high. i'm As a Juco guy, I'm pretty high on Milton Poe. I think he'd probably do some damage for him as well.
00:30:50
Cokeley Brothers
As an Alabaman, I'm also what he said.
00:30:54
Ryne
And then Aiden Riggins is also another option, their returning guy at 65.
00:30:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:31:00
Ryne
Yep.
00:31:00
Cokeley Brothers
he I think he finished round of 16 this last year, right? Not bad.
00:31:06
Ryne
he's i
00:31:06
Cokeley Brothers
Tell you what though, them Hawkeye fans, they laugh when they hear about him.
00:31:09
Reese
LOL. Washed. Guys washed.
00:31:13
Ryne
Well, he did.
00:31:13
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:31:13
Ryne
I mean, Kelly and I did kind of beat him up every time they wrestled. So. I'm
00:31:17
Cokeley Brothers
Well, Caliendo's the national runner-up.
00:31:21
Reese
Also washed.
00:31:21
Cokeley Brothers
So, what are you going to do?
00:31:21
Ryne
just saying.
00:31:24
Ryne
um Also, a little sidebar here. Speaking of Poe, we just signed Isaiah Poe today.
00:31:29
Cokeley Brothers
Huh? Wait, the Nougat. The Chattanooga.
00:31:36
Ryne
No, he left Chattanooga.
00:31:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's where he was, though.
00:31:41
Ryne
Yes.
00:31:42
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:31:43
Reese
I
00:31:43
Ryne
So it's coming.
00:31:43
Cokeley Brothers
um Dude, just like the Mills brothers, there's a bunch of Poe brothers. I can't keep track of all of them.
00:31:48
Ryne
Yeah, but there's way more Mills brothers for sure.
00:31:51
Cokeley Brothers
Really? There's like...
00:31:51
Ryne
Oh yeah. Like 14.
00:31:53
Reese
don't even know.
00:31:53
Ryne
The
00:31:53
Reese
Who are you talking about, Mills Brothers?
00:31:56
Cokeley Brothers
There's 14? You said 14?
00:31:56
Ryne
the choice
00:31:56
Cokeley Brothers
14?
00:31:57
Ryne
like the Georgia guys.
00:32:00
Reese
Oh, like who? Like Anthony Mills?
00:32:03
Ryne
Yes. And there's, there's, there is, there's a bunch of them, Sammy.
00:32:08
Cokeley Brothers
you said fourteen
00:32:09
Ryne
um I might've been exaggerating a little bit, but they're,
00:32:11
Cokeley Brothers
They could fill a whole high school team with Mills brothers.
00:32:15
Ryne
pretty sure there's a bunch of them.
00:32:17
Cokeley Brothers
That's insane. Well, yeah, because there's one. There was one at the Georgia Juco.
00:32:22
Ryne
Yeah, they're they're not JUCO anymore.
00:32:25
Cokeley Brothers
They're not Andrew College.
00:32:25
Ryne
yeah have a parent Yeah, apparently they're like moving into D3 or something.
00:32:27
Reese
not JUCO anymore.
00:32:30
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, OK, there's there's that one. There's the one that just won Fargo. There's the one that's on the U-17 world team. And then I'm guessing there's more in the pipeline.
00:32:39
Ryne
There's older ones too, pretty sure.
00:32:40
Cokeley Brothers
There's older ones. Goodness.
00:32:43
Reese
Taller ones.
00:32:47
Ryne
seventy four 74, moving on. and
00:32:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. In J.
00:32:51
Ryne
MJ Guyton, or i they have Melton listed on their on their lineup at 74.
00:32:56
Cokeley Brothers
Nah.
00:32:58
Ryne
I think he's probably better at 65, but 84,
00:32:58
Cokeley Brothers
Nah.
00:32:59
Reese
Pass.
00:33:02
Cokeley Brothers
For sure.
00:33:03
Reese
Name a better name.
00:33:05
Ryne
you got a Isaac Dean probably will be your guy, but don't sleep on Tate Nakneboran.
00:33:13
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I've been waiting on Tate.
00:33:15
Reese
Yeah, I don't, I'm slightly, I mean, how many years has he had?
00:33:16
Ryne
He's tough.
00:33:20
Ryne
he
00:33:21
Reese
Two so far?
00:33:21
Ryne
He hasn't had a whole – well, last year was his redshirt freshman year, so he's a sophomore coming up.
00:33:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah,
00:33:21
Reese
Oh, okay.
00:33:27
Ryne
um
00:33:27
Cokeley Brothers
yeah, yeah.
00:33:28
Reese
Feels like he's been in college for longer than that some reason.
00:33:31
Cokeley Brothers
not Same as Gabe Arnold. he and He and Gabe had a bunch of battles in high school.
00:33:35
Ryne
Yeah, yep.
00:33:36
Reese
ah ah
00:33:38
Ryne
Don't sleep on him. He looked good. He doesn't have like a whole bunch of like great results results right now, but he looked yeah 97, Rocky Elam.
00:33:45
Cokeley Brothers
me me me me me
00:33:46
Ryne
ninety seven rocky elam
00:33:48
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:33:49
Ryne
Or another Juco guy, don't sleep on this one, CJ Carter.
00:33:52
Reese
Rocky Elam, dude. How can you not sleep on Rocky Elam?
00:33:54
Cokeley Brothers
ah yeah
00:33:56
Reese
yes He's been sleeping on rockyum Rocky Elam. Rocky Elam is sleeping on Rocky Elam.
00:34:01
Ryne
Sleeping on himself, is that what you're saying?
00:34:02
Cokeley Brothers
yeah he took a big big nap last year
00:34:02
Reese
Yeah, he is.
00:34:06
Ryne
And then heavyweight, heavyweight is probably going to be ah Daniel Herrera again.
00:34:07
Cokeley Brothers
not younger
00:34:08
Reese
Happy boy.
00:34:11
Cokeley Brothers
younger
00:34:12
Ryne
No, I'm just kidding.
00:34:12
Reese
Can they get a new...
00:34:12
Ryne
It will be younger.
00:34:13
Reese
Yeah, what?
00:34:14
Cokeley Brothers
Younger.
00:34:15
Ryne
Yeah, Younger absolutely obliterated Daniel Herrera in practice yesterday. It was bad.
00:34:20
Reese
What?
00:34:21
Cokeley Brothers
Younger.
00:34:21
Ryne
It was hard to watch. I'm not going to lie to you
00:34:23
Cokeley Brothers
I typed his name out as Younger Bastida. Whoops. ah You know I didn't realize? MJ Gaitan went 0-2 this year at NCAAs. Do you know his who his losses were?
00:34:38
Ryne
to you.
00:34:38
Cokeley Brothers
Of course you don't. Danny Wask and Lenny Pinto.
00:34:41
Reese
Steven Monterey.
00:34:43
Ryne
Who? You know who else went 0-2 this year?
00:34:48
Ryne
I don't even
00:34:49
Cokeley Brothers
uh panero johnson oh um i don't know at 174 i don't know
00:34:53
Reese
Pinero went 0-2 this year? No, he didn't. 174.
00:34:56
Ryne
want it to.
00:34:59
Ryne
Yeah, you do.
00:35:03
Reese
one seventy-four
00:35:04
Ryne
the it The biggest shot, ah you're like you're like, man, this guy, yeah, Karchla.
00:35:07
Cokeley Brothers
oh carson yeah who's back
00:35:09
Ryne
Like, man, this this guy could win it.
00:35:12
Cokeley Brothers
It's crazy that Carson Hartzell and Ed Reuther are back, but Sammy Alvarez doesn't get jack.
00:35:13
Ryne
And they want one too.
00:35:17
Ryne
ah That's because Sammy actually wrestled like every every year that he was in college.
00:35:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, dude. I was also, so i was talking to this guy on Twitter, The Cradle Zone, who's a he's a big OU guy. And he was saying that Gavin Sachs is is in the court right now trying to get another year of eligibility.
00:35:38
Cokeley Brothers
He's wrestled in four postseasons, not including any of them being in 2021.
00:35:43
Ryne
Well, then it's going to be hard to win that.
00:35:45
Cokeley Brothers
Not going to happen. If it happens, it's going to open up a can of worms.
00:35:51
Cokeley Brothers
You can't do it.
00:35:51
Ryne
Yeah.
00:35:52
Cokeley Brothers
you can't You can't do it.
00:35:53
Ryne
Because what year
00:35:53
Cokeley Brothers
It's Tyler Brennan all over again.
00:35:54
Ryne
what year is what year did is Sammy Alvarez trying to get back or was he trying to get back?
00:36:02
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:36:03
Ryne
His OSU year?
00:36:05
Cokeley Brothers
I think so. But i don't know even I don't even know what year that would have been. I think i guess that would have been 2022.
00:36:12
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. 20...
00:36:13
Ryne
No, or three?
00:36:16
Ryne
Let's look.
00:36:16
Cokeley Brothers
I don't remember.
00:36:16
Ryne
Wrestle's stat it up, maybe.
00:36:18
Cokeley Brothers
i don't remember. He he he he almost beat RBY in 2020. And he like couldn't make weight in 2021. I think. Or could he not?
00:36:29
Reese
They don't talk about that year 2020.
00:36:33
Reese
Especially not 2020 133.
00:36:33
Ryne
We don't talk about Bruno.
00:36:33
Cokeley Brothers
I can't remember.
00:36:34
Reese
What could have been?
00:36:34
Ryne
I'm
00:36:35
Reese
What? What could have been
00:36:38
Cokeley Brothers
Who...
00:36:40
Ryne
going to log in.
00:36:42
Cokeley Brothers
Who, Reese?
00:36:44
Reese
the NCAA 133?
00:36:45
Cokeley Brothers
What do you mean, what could have been?
00:36:47
Ryne
The tournament.
00:36:48
Reese
at the n ca one thirty three
00:36:52
Cokeley Brothers
um don't even remember.
00:36:52
Ryne
Just 2020 was going to be the greatest NCAA tournament of all time.
00:36:55
Cokeley Brothers
Oh.
00:36:57
Reese
I mean, and 133 especially it was crazy that year.
00:36:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it was going to be good. Who was it? It was RBY. Seth Gross.
00:37:04
Reese
Seth Gross, Sebastian Rivera, Ridge Lovett, Sammy Alvarez, DeSanto, and that's just in the Big Tens.
00:37:07
Cokeley Brothers
yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:11
Cokeley Brothers
They were... Yeah, all Big Tens.
00:37:15
Reese
Yeah.
00:37:16
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:37:16
Reese
Dayton was, yeah, yeah, he was redshirt.
00:37:16
Cokeley Brothers
Fix was not wrestling that year, though.
00:37:20
Cokeley Brothers
ah What, Mickey Phillippe?
00:37:22
Ryne
Yeah, dude, Sammy Alvarez already had a med red too.
00:37:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Well, you can get two. You can have two years.
00:37:29
Ryne
Well, he didn't get it.
00:37:32
Cokeley Brothers
No, I think they have to be back-to-back, too, I think. ah Yeah. I mean, he it it just it wasn't going to happen. Good prop. Kudos to him for trying. And I guess kudos to Gavin Sachs for trying.
00:37:43
Cokeley Brothers
I just don't understand.
COVID-19's Impact on NCAA 133 Tournament
00:37:44
Ryne
I'm guessing he was trying to get 2024 back because he went three and four that year.
00:37:50
Cokeley Brothers
Sammy.
00:37:51
Ryne
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay.
00:37:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I think this is going to be the final year that is impacted by COVID in terms of eligibility this upcoming season. As far as I can remember. We'll have Ed Ruth, Carson Hartzla, Jacob Moran for Indiana.
00:38:15
Cokeley Brothers
ah Other people. I don't know. ah Just others.
00:38:20
Reese
Chaz Tucker. That was another guy.
00:38:21
Cokeley Brothers
Chaz Tucker's coming back. That would have been a the dude. he was He was coming for the podium, too. He was undefeated.
00:38:26
Reese
Yeah, undefeated.
00:38:26
Cokeley Brothers
Like 22-0 or something.
00:38:28
Reese
yeah Yeah, 31-0.
00:38:30
Cokeley Brothers
Holy shit. That is crazy.
00:38:33
Reese
This is pre-COVID numbers.
00:38:35
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Right.
00:38:37
Ryne
Dude, that was going to be such a good tournament.
00:38:37
Cokeley Brothers
My goodness.
00:38:38
Reese
Dang, I didn't realize how good Travis Piotrowski was that year. He was a seven seed.
00:38:45
Cokeley Brothers
Travis is good.
00:38:47
Ryne
I'll just never forgive COVID for taking that away from us.
00:38:48
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:38:50
Cokeley Brothers
Did you guys... and it was going to be up up in Minnesota at the stadium. But we're getting that back. So...
00:38:56
Ryne
Yeah, but it's just not going to be the same. The team race was going to be crazy awesome.
00:39:01
Cokeley Brothers
I think Iowa was just going to have it, weren't they?
00:39:04
Ryne
Dude, it was going be a lot closer than people think.
00:39:04
Reese
No, it's Penn State.
00:39:05
Cokeley Brothers
I guess with Mark Hall around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. meant Vincenzo. Yeah.
00:39:11
Ryne
It was going to be an awesome You know who else really got screwed by by that?
00:39:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I guess I can't say Mark Hall because Carter was there.
00:39:14
Reese
That Shaq was, who was it that had the injury? who had that They had a rough Big Tens, I think Penn State did.
00:39:25
Ryne
Spencer Lee.
00:39:26
Cokeley Brothers
Luke Pletcher.
00:39:26
Ryne
He would have four titles. He would have four titles if COVID didn't happen.
00:39:32
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. You know who is like a
00:39:33
Reese
Wow. He got four shots.
00:39:35
Cokeley Brothers
You know who probably has a great...
00:39:36
Ryne
He did, but let's be real.
00:39:39
Cokeley Brothers
You know who has a great argument for being a four-timer that nobody talks about? Zahid Valencia.
00:39:46
Ryne
How does he have a great argument? He got beat.
00:39:49
Cokeley Brothers
the All right, let's talk about the way he got beat.
00:39:52
Ryne
he I mean, he pulled headgear. It was obvious.
00:39:55
Cokeley Brothers
Total, total BS.
00:39:58
Ryne
How is it bullshit? He pulled the headgear.
00:39:59
Cokeley Brothers
because it Because it didn't affect the result of the match. And you can see how his finger got snagged as he was passing it by.
00:40:06
Reese
I'm with Sammy.
00:40:06
Cokeley Brothers
Meanwhile, meanwhile, Nick Soriano clearly just grabs Dayton's headgear and says, get out of my way.
00:40:12
Reese
I don't even want to talk about that shit, bro.
00:40:13
Cokeley Brothers
Nothing happens to him. Even after a review.
00:40:15
Reese
that was
00:40:15
Cokeley Brothers
Makes me sick.
00:40:16
Reese
That was sickening. That was the most... If there's ever going to be a call to make...
00:40:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:40:21
Reese
A headgear poll to make, why would you not make it there?
00:40:23
Cokeley Brothers
That's it.
00:40:24
Ryne
You want to know why they didn't call it?
00:40:24
Cokeley Brothers
That's it.
00:40:25
Ryne
You don't want to know why they didn't call it?
00:40:26
Reese
I know why they didn't call it.
00:40:28
Ryne
you know You want to know why?
00:40:28
Cokeley Brothers
Because Rutgers needed their first national champ.
00:40:30
Ryne
no no no no, no, no, no.
00:40:31
Reese
No.
00:40:31
Ryne
They didn't call it because John Smith already blew his brick in that match and then begged them to go look at it. And you know and the referees were like, you know what? We can't call this because John Smith asked us to, and if we do call it, then we're going to get shitted on for basically giving Smith two bricks in one match.
00:40:50
Cokeley Brothers
But you can do an official's review.
00:40:51
Reese
Yeah, you can just say it's an official's review.
00:40:52
Ryne
But the the they weren't going to do an official review until John begged them to do it.
00:40:56
Cokeley Brothers
They should have.
00:40:58
Reese
It's John Smith.
00:40:59
Cokeley Brothers
It's John Smith, Ryan.
00:41:00
Reese
John Smith.
00:41:01
Ryne
I'm just saying.
00:41:01
Cokeley Brothers
You know what he does at the Bob Smith Open. He says, you know who I am?
00:41:09
Ryne
but
00:41:10
Cokeley Brothers
He's out now. It's so fine. it's fine
00:41:11
Ryne
That is a terrible story.
00:41:16
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:41:16
Ryne
Oh, man.
00:41:17
Cokeley Brothers
Look, you had you you had to be there if you want to know what happened. Yeah.
00:41:20
Ryne
ah I'll tell you, just not today. Story for another day.
00:41:26
Cokeley Brothers
yeah No, but I mean, yeah, like Zahid got the BS, had your pole, and then, yeah, doing drugs.
00:41:27
Reese
And then and he did – he screwed himself in 2020.
00:41:35
Ryne
Except how is it BS? Explain it to me.
00:41:37
Cokeley Brothers
Because, Ryan, I understand that that it is by the rules, but the rules should have ah have an addendum to him where the pole, like a singlet pole in freestyle, is only called in a situation where it affects the wrestler.
00:41:40
Ryne
Explain it to me.
00:41:56
Ryne
I mean, he we he pulled it and then attacked the leg of Mark Hall.
00:42:02
Cokeley Brothers
I gotta watch it then.
00:42:02
Reese
No, i think that I think he pulled it in a front headlock situation.
00:42:03
Cokeley Brothers
What that?
00:42:12
Reese
Oh, maybe. 2017.
00:42:16
Reese
twenty eight seventeen
00:42:18
Cokeley Brothers
twenty
00:42:20
Ryne
I'll watch it too, just so I...
00:42:26
Cokeley Brothers
can i even find this is it gonna show it there it is semifinal
00:42:35
Cokeley Brothers
and Okay. Oh, it's the highlight clip from flow. I don't know if it's going to show it to me.
00:42:40
Ryne
It'll show it.
00:42:41
Reese
know, show it.
00:42:43
Ryne
need to use my phone.
00:42:43
Cokeley Brothers
You say it'll show it. Okay.
00:42:44
Reese
I think so.
00:42:44
Ryne
Yeah. What
00:42:48
Cokeley Brothers
Well, while that loads, um, and then, yeah, he did, so he did screw himself, uh, that next year. So I guess, or not the next year, the, the, his final year, but even if he did, even if they hadn't screwed himself, he he was going to get screwed.
00:42:57
Ryne
what do you mean the next year?
00:43:07
Cokeley Brothers
by COVID.
00:43:07
Reese
Yeah.
00:43:07
Ryne
Just COVID.
00:43:10
Cokeley Brothers
Thanks COVID.
00:43:12
Reese
Thanks a lot.
00:43:13
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:43:15
Cokeley Brothers
I've got some other teams here that we can talk about. I got Lehigh, Stanford, and NC State.
00:43:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, we seem very interested in that, don't we?
00:43:26
Ryne
Sorry, I'm looking for this freaking match, bruh.
00:43:29
Reese
I'm just looking at the score at the top of this video. Real Budo is leading Bo Jordan. I didn't even realize Real Budo was the two seed.
00:43:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:43:37
Ryne
Yeah, and then he tried to, and then Real Budo tried to high flyer.
00:43:37
Cokeley Brothers
And then he went for a gator or bacon.
00:43:40
Ryne
He went Sammy Coakley v. mar Marcus Coleman on.
00:43:43
Cokeley Brothers
all Alrighty then.
00:43:48
Ryne
Had to be done, Sam.
00:43:51
Cokeley Brothers
You're mean.
00:43:51
Ryne
It literally reminded me of that. Whenever I watched, i saw that happen. I remember being in like, that was my brother.
00:43:55
Cokeley Brothers
I know. You know where you know what, Ryan? It also reminded me of that. I said, no, not like me.
00:44:00
Reese
Oh, yeah, yeah, You're 100% right, Ryan.
00:44:03
Cokeley Brothers
Ooh, that's pretty ugly. That definitely affected him.
00:44:08
Ryne
Apologize.
00:44:10
Cokeley Brothers
I'm sorry. I don't remember being that bad. Holy crap.
00:44:15
Reese
I mean, i know. i don't I still don't think, like... I mean, he's getting the leg.
00:44:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but it it's it definitely does something to Mark. Mark stops wrestling as it happens.
00:44:23
Reese
Yeah, yeah. He didn't need it, though. He didn't need to do that.
00:44:27
Cokeley Brothers
No, he didn't.
00:44:27
Ryne
He didn't need, but he did do it, and he did do it off to to get to a leg attack.
00:44:29
Cokeley Brothers
But he did it. But he did do it.
00:44:32
Reese
Not like Nick Suriano, who 100% needed to do that to prevent his that pass by.
00:44:33
Ryne
Yeah.
00:44:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:44:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. um
00:44:46
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. You guys want to about my lineups?
00:44:50
Reese
Your lineups? your what What do you mean?
00:44:53
Cokeley Brothers
some Some more lineup looks, my guy.
00:44:53
Reese
I thought
00:44:56
Cokeley Brothers
I
00:44:57
Reese
thought you were talking Indiana.
00:44:57
Ryne
I only prepared the one.
00:45:00
Cokeley Brothers
i know, I have some. Stanford.
00:45:01
Ryne
Okay. What do you got for me?
00:45:03
Cokeley Brothers
Stanford.
00:45:06
Cokeley Brothers
Or like stand for her.
00:45:08
Reese
I can't stand.
00:45:12
Cokeley Brothers
That's right. we We respect women here. Never had one on the podcast, but maybe one day we'll change. um So last year they took 18th.
00:45:21
Reese
on the podcast.
00:45:23
Cokeley Brothers
Last year they took 18th. ah Tyler Knox and Hunter Garvin were all Americans for them. They are both back. They were one of two teams. As far as I'm aware, one of two teams to enter the postseason last year without a full lineup.
00:45:38
Cokeley Brothers
Stanford and Duke. hope I hope we don't see that this upcoming year. ah They were missing a 125 pounder to enter the postseason without a full lineup.
00:45:44
Ryne
One of two teams to do what now? Oh, I what you're saying. OK.
00:45:51
Cokeley Brothers
ah Nico Provo was 25-pounder for them two years ago and then wasn't last year. I'm guessing there was an injury or something. They didn't have anybody at 125 last year.
00:46:01
Reese
Thank you.
00:46:01
Cokeley Brothers
So he's back. He was around 16 two years ago, and he'll probably be ah notable name at 125. He was at one point ranked number one in the country, but so was like, I don't know, 12 other people at that weight.
00:46:14
Cokeley Brothers
ah Tyler Knox, an All-American, took eighth place ah and... He's at 133, which is probably going to be the toughest wait this upcoming season. Probably going to be a wait where we see like four or five or more returning All-Americans not finish on the podium, which is crazy.
00:46:32
Reese
Well, it was pretty weak last year. It was pretty down.
00:46:33
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:46:40
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:46:42
Reese
say
00:46:45
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Was it really down?
00:46:47
Reese
I mean, what did Zeth Romney take?
00:46:49
Cokeley Brothers
Third.
00:46:51
Reese
Yeah.
00:46:52
Cokeley Brothers
He looked pretty good, though, other than losing to Markel Baker.
00:46:53
Reese
i Well, I think that, I don't know.
00:46:56
Cokeley Brothers
Barker?
00:46:58
Reese
I think that.
00:46:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I get it. i get what you're saying. I understand it. ah Aiden Valencia, he went 3-3 last
Stanford Wrestling Team Challenges
00:47:08
Cokeley Brothers
year. He had losses to Lemley, Happel, and Ed Scott. For some reason, he was at 157.
00:47:14
Cokeley Brothers
but um for duel, I guess just to fill in, um, he beat Eli Rivera, writer block and Zach Redding. I think he's going to be, I think it'd be pretty tough. yeah And then his, his off season this last year, i think he's going to be 41 because EJ Parker was at one of 49, probably a fringe qualifier type guy.
00:47:23
Reese
41 or 49.
00:47:31
Cokeley Brothers
So not like a serious contender as far as I can tell, but he's brother of Kyle. So we'll see. Daniel Cardenas is coming off a red shirt. He took fourth in 2024. ah in terms of the people that are left in the weight class at 157 his only loss has been to shamara shamara pyre meyer shapiro my shamiro so uh so daniel kardenas is going to be a name to note at one fifty seven
00:47:50
Ryne
Shmiro Pire, baby.
00:47:54
Reese
Shamiro Pyro.
00:48:05
Cokeley Brothers
at 157 uh 165 hunter garvin took sixth for the second year in a row I don't know. I don't know what to think of Hunter Garvin this next year. he had this thing last year where he he he would jump out to these insane leads and then just give them up.
00:48:17
Reese
You got it. You can't be anything but just fuck just sky high like the Put all your money on Hunter Garvin.
00:48:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, because like I think he can beat...
00:48:28
Ryne
put all of it on computer.
00:48:30
Reese
All of it in the house.
00:48:31
Cokeley Brothers
If there's a list of people that can beat Michael Caliendo, I think he's on that list.
00:48:35
Reese
For sure.
00:48:36
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's on the list of people that can beat Mesenbrink because I think if there's one person, it's... I guess there might be two. Caliendo, maybe? And then most likely...
00:48:47
Cokeley Brothers
More likely than that.
00:48:47
Reese
Did Hunter ever wrestle Mitch Mitchell? Have they wrestled each other in folk style?
00:48:52
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:48:55
Reese
They had some good, decent matches in freestyle.
00:48:55
Cokeley Brothers
I have no idea. Yeah, didn't the last time they wrestled, though, he got demolished?
00:49:02
Reese
i don't maybe. When was that?
00:49:04
Cokeley Brothers
feel like ah The last time. ah Last summer, I think.
00:49:10
Reese
Oh.
00:49:11
Cokeley Brothers
At U20s.
00:49:12
Reese
Well, no, U20s.
00:49:12
Cokeley Brothers
I think.
00:49:13
Reese
I think their matches at U20s were always somewhat U23s.
00:49:15
Ryne
You mean U23s? It could
00:49:17
Cokeley Brothers
Was it U23s? wasn' It wasn't U20s last year.
00:49:21
Ryne
but could have been U20s. don't know. Okay.
00:49:23
Cokeley Brothers
I think it was U20s last year.
00:49:24
Ryne
Okay.
00:49:25
Reese
They've had good good matches. he's I mean, he's he can score on Mitchell, or he could at least at that point.
00:49:30
Cokeley Brothers
Right. I feel like Hunter Garvin can score on like anybody. It's just putting a whole match together.
00:49:36
Reese
He'll figure it out.
00:49:37
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe he will. And then Lorenzo Norman, who had a great regular season last year and was at one point beating Keegan O'Toole in the postseason and then just let it fall apart. Like he let it fall apart at ACC's.
00:49:49
Cokeley Brothers
So they just got to...
00:49:50
Reese
how was That was epic. That was not him falling apart.
00:49:53
Cokeley Brothers
They just...
00:49:54
Reese
That was Keegan O'Toole just going man mode.
00:49:58
Cokeley Brothers
Sure. And then...
00:49:59
Reese
Dude, come on.
00:50:01
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, dude. Eh.
00:50:04
Reese
you you don't You don't... I mean, those ducks, those were sick.
00:50:08
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, dude. when i see somebody
00:50:09
Reese
So nice.
00:50:09
Ryne
wack Quack, quack.
00:50:10
Cokeley Brothers
When I see somebody get themselves back into a match through Duck Unders,
00:50:18
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I'm
00:50:19
Reese
You don't think Keegan's ducking you?
00:50:19
Ryne
What you mean? You've been watching it your whole life.
00:50:23
Cokeley Brothers
not saying that. I'm not saying that. but do you mean?
00:50:26
Ryne
Well, he taylor mater me you, mean, you've been watching dudes hit duck on there and matches even to get back and matches whole Taylor Mader. I mean, i'm admit but do I need to say it again?
00:50:36
Ryne
Taylor Mader.
00:50:37
Cokeley Brothers
ah I i ah have a confession ah have a confession to make.
00:50:38
Reese
Taylor Mayer, dude. You ever seen...
00:50:42
Cokeley Brothers
I remember one thing from TaylorMader's style and that was his ah move that he had on top that I can't think of the name of right now where he would get a tight waist and then put his head in their armpit and then grab their wrists.
00:50:51
Reese
Like... Oh. Oh. Head Lover?
00:50:56
Cokeley Brothers
head Head lever?
00:50:56
Ryne
Called a head lever.
00:50:58
Cokeley Brothers
Head lever. All right.
00:50:59
Ryne
Why do you call it a lever?
00:51:01
Cokeley Brothers
Lever lever.
00:51:01
Reese
Laver.
00:51:02
Cokeley Brothers
Lever alone. How about that?
00:51:03
Ryne
How do you spell how do you spell levers then?
00:51:05
Reese
Dude. That duck.
00:51:06
Cokeley Brothers
L-E-V-E-R.
00:51:07
Reese
That duck.
00:51:07
Ryne
Okay, so why are you saying lever?
00:51:08
Reese
That duck that
00:51:11
Cokeley Brothers
because I can.
00:51:11
Reese
Well, you could. I mean, that it's not like if there were two Vs, then you could, there's no way you could say Lever. But there's only one V.
00:51:17
Ryne
No, it's lever.
00:51:19
Reese
Like Fever?
00:51:20
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, there you
00:51:22
Ryne
Nope. It's not this name.
00:51:23
Cokeley Brothers
Checkmate. Okay.
00:51:26
Ryne
It's not the same. You know it.
00:51:29
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:51:30
Reese
That Duck, though. I don't know how, I still to this day don't know how he, no, I'm not talking about Keegan, I'm talking about Taylor Maynard's Duck.
00:51:32
Cokeley Brothers
The Kikin' Up tool duck.
00:51:36
Cokeley Brothers
Oh.
00:51:37
Reese
I don't know how he did it. How did he hit? How would he be able to be on one side and then duck from the other side?
00:51:43
Ryne
That's exactly how Taylor used to do his ducks.
00:51:44
Reese
so
00:51:46
Ryne
Literally how and yeah um it's easy.
00:51:46
Reese
ah That's what I'm saying. How did he do it?
00:51:46
Cokeley Brothers
That's what he's talking about.
00:51:49
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:51:51
Reese
Well, I can never figure it out.
00:51:53
Ryne
You just create just the tiniest bit of space when you got the pressure. You just create, beep, change your level and hit.
00:51:58
Reese
You got
00:51:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, he's like that tiger from from Madagascar 3 that can fit through the little rings.
00:52:04
Ryne
I can do it.
00:52:05
Cokeley Brothers
Everybody knows what I'm referencing.
00:52:08
Ryne
I hit it all the time.
00:52:08
Reese
from Madagascar three.
00:52:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Yeah, the one where they join the circus and the tiger goes through the little rings. you know
00:52:14
Reese
Yeah, I remember watching that with Ryan and who else was you?
00:52:15
Cokeley Brothers
Everybody knows what I'm talking about.
00:52:17
Reese
Were you there, Sammy?
00:52:19
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, yeah, we watched this in the movies in a movie theater and I can't i can't describe...
00:52:23
Reese
It was preposterous.
00:52:23
Ryne
Tyler Hensley. Tyler Hensley was so funny at that in that 99% sure we were the only ones in the theater.
00:52:27
Reese
Yeah.
00:52:27
Cokeley Brothers
no one No one that went to see that movie could have possibly prepared themselves for for the cinematic masterpiece.
00:52:39
Cokeley Brothers
We were. We were indeed.
00:52:41
Reese
Wow.
00:52:42
Cokeley Brothers
Because not a lot of people were ready for the artistry.
00:52:47
Reese
Yeah, ah way ahead of its time.
00:52:50
Cokeley Brothers
Shoot, the colors was what it did was what did it for me. What was I, 12?
00:52:56
Reese
Yeah, it was right up your alley.
00:52:56
Cokeley Brothers
No. I was like 14. 13?
00:53:00
Reese
know you were probably like if Tyler was with us, you were probably 14 yeah, 13 or 14. Yeah. yeah thirteen or fourteen
00:53:06
Cokeley Brothers
coming get Coming into high school, most likely.
00:53:07
Reese
yeah
00:53:10
Cokeley Brothers
Cool. I have more lineups. so We can save those for later.
Miscellaneous Wrestling Topics and Future Prospects
00:53:14
Cokeley Brothers
We're coming up on an hour.
00:53:18
Cokeley Brothers
Do we have anything else?
00:53:22
Ryne
What weight is Aiden Valencia going? You got him at 41.
00:53:25
Cokeley Brothers
I have him 41. Is that wrong?
00:53:28
Ryne
No, no, no.
00:53:29
Cokeley Brothers
Is it wrong?
00:53:31
Ryne
It feels like he'll be 41 for at least a couple years.
00:53:32
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Because, yeah, he wrestled 65 kilos this summer, which is 143.
00:53:38
Ryne
Yeah.
00:53:41
Ryne
He's pretty short, too. He'll probably be 41 his whole career.
00:53:44
Reese
ah
00:53:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah,
00:53:46
Ryne
I'm starting to think Bo Bassett's going to be 41 his whole career.
00:53:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, because they had ah I don't understand. Where's the definition on his body?
00:53:57
Reese
He'll get it one those days.
00:53:57
Ryne
In his legs.
00:53:58
Reese
so
00:54:00
Cokeley Brothers
Right?
00:54:00
Ryne
Oh, probably back.
00:54:00
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, you you know what I noticed?
00:54:01
Ryne
He's probably got a defined back.
00:54:01
Reese
Look at Spencer Lee. he He had no
00:54:06
Cokeley Brothers
ah Little Bassett, Keegan Bassett, when he was wrestling and this this high school season, you know he just looked like a little kid. you know no no Nothing crazy looking. But then I because i was like, you know right around Fargo, right around right ah Ryan, when you asked like where is Keegan Bassett, I looked up on his Instagram because I'm like, where is he? And I'm like oh yeah, he's preparing for Worlds.
00:54:26
Cokeley Brothers
And he's cut. Like, like really cut. And I'm thinking, man, this kid's wrestling 45 kilos. He's in trouble. Brother, we got to get you up.
00:54:37
Ryne
He'll be alright.
00:54:38
Cokeley Brothers
He'll be a 25er though, like for life.
00:54:39
Ryne
Took second at State in PA this year. Undersized 106 pounder.
00:54:42
Reese
Why are they so small? Their dad doesn't seem that small.
00:54:47
Ryne
well Wilhelm.
00:54:48
Reese
Yeah.
00:54:49
Ryne
He's pretty big guy.
00:54:50
Reese
Yeah. Same.
00:54:51
Cokeley Brothers
Phil Helm Bassett.
00:54:53
Ryne
Wilhelm. He's a big dude.
00:54:56
Cokeley Brothers
Where do you guys think Bo's going go?
00:54:58
Ryne
Iowa.
00:54:59
Reese
yeah same
00:55:00
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I hope it happens. I hope it happens. I really do, because I think it would be good.
00:55:05
Ryne
you know I mean, if it i do like kind of hope he like comes to his senses, yeah calls him up and is like, yeah i made a mistake, I want my deal back and they give it to him.
00:55:18
Cokeley Brothers
this deal's The deal's gone. $5 million.
00:55:19
Ryne
No, it's not.
00:55:22
Cokeley Brothers
dollars I think with the new rules, isn't that like not really possible?
00:55:26
Ryne
What do you mean?
00:55:28
Cokeley Brothers
the clearinghouse rules or whatever. And there's something going on in the, or the house settlement or something. There's something happening to that basically.
00:55:34
Ryne
Talking about what the revenue sharing?
00:55:36
Cokeley Brothers
i think it's something different. ah There was like a deadline that was coming up and I feel like.
00:55:41
Ryne
Yeah, it was to to opt in or out of the revenue sharing.
00:55:45
Cokeley Brothers
It's something else, something else that I'm thinking of. i I feel like for some reason that that deal is off the table.
00:55:52
Ryne
Yeah, you might be right. I don't know.
00:55:56
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm.
00:55:57
Ryne
He really screwed himself. He really, really screwed himself.
00:56:01
Cokeley Brothers
ah Dude, especially if the numbers that we were hearing for other guys going to other schools were true. mean, yeah, that would have been.
00:56:12
Ryne
yeah
00:56:14
Cokeley Brothers
yeah that's crazy.
00:56:15
Ryne
Because, well I mean, he's not even – the three schools he listed off, like Penn State's not going to give him – like I don't even think they'd give him a million.
00:56:27
Cokeley Brothers
No, but i do I did hear that they they are not...
00:56:29
Ryne
oh Oklahoma State.
00:56:31
Cokeley Brothers
They're quiet about it, but that they do pay their guys.
00:56:35
Ryne
Well, they're quiet about freaking everything they do.
00:56:38
Cokeley Brothers
i know. so Somebody on Twitter was like, man, we need to see the rest the lot between Blaze and Ono. i was like, if you if you manage to get it, don't post it. Otherwise, the the mob will come for you.
00:56:50
Ryne
fuck them mo
00:56:50
Cokeley Brothers
The way they tried to take down Pat.
00:56:53
Reese
What'd you say?
00:56:55
Ryne
I said, fuck the mob.
00:56:55
Cokeley Brothers
the The Penn State mob, dude.
00:56:58
Reese
No, Ryan. Ryan's saying crazy shit right now.
00:57:02
Ryne
Why?
00:57:04
Reese
you're worried that You're worried about all the things you could say on air, and then you say, f the mob.
00:57:09
Ryne
Well, what's wrong with that?
00:57:13
Cokeley Brothers
Dangerous.
00:57:13
Ryne
Why?
00:57:14
Reese
It's a dangerous game.
00:57:14
Cokeley Brothers
Your words have consequences. You know that, right?
00:57:16
Ryne
They're not, good what are they going to do to me? Stop feeding me information like they feed Pat?
00:57:19
Reese
I don't know.
00:57:21
Cokeley Brothers
Pick your poison.
00:57:21
Reese
send you it's send you
00:57:22
Ryne
Yeah.
00:57:24
Reese
ah dead fishies or dead horses, horse heads.
00:57:29
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:57:30
Ryne
That'd be cool.
00:57:31
Reese
that's what they That's what they do. they It's like as ah like a warning.
00:57:35
Ryne
If they start sending me stuff like that in the mail, bags of shit or whatever, that means I'm getting to them. That means I'm really, really getting in their heads.
00:57:43
Reese
Yeah. And then they're going to get to you.
00:57:51
Ryne
I'd like to see them try.
00:57:53
Reese
Look at Sammy's eyes. Those are beautiful.
00:57:56
Ryne
um I do think he'll probably end at Oklahoma State, especially with Jax making the world team.
00:57:58
Reese
Gotta go back to whatever you were looking at before that.
00:58:02
Ryne
I think he sees that and he's going like, that's where I got to go.
00:58:10
Cokeley Brothers
My headphones died, so I can't hear you anymore.
00:58:14
Reese
Wrap it up.
00:58:14
Cokeley Brothers
I think that means it's time to wrap it up.
00:58:19
Reese
Okay.
00:58:19
Cokeley Brothers
Here, the people have never seen my ears. I do have cauliflower ear.
00:58:24
Ryne
Barely.
00:58:27
Cokeley Brothers
I wish I knew what you guys were saying. All right, let's wrap it up.
00:58:31
Ryne
Barely.
00:58:33
Cokeley Brothers
I can't... I don't know. I'm not sure what he said.
00:58:36
Ryne
Barely.
00:58:39
Cokeley Brothers
but Barley.
00:58:41
Ryne
yeah yes.
00:58:44
Cokeley Brothers
Barley?
00:58:44
Ryne
No.
00:58:46
Cokeley Brothers
Barely.
00:58:46
Ryne
Yeah.
00:58:47
Cokeley Brothers
Barely what? Barely have cauliflower. Whatever. Have a good day.
00:58:51
Ryne
but
00:58:51
Cokeley Brothers
Goodbye. Go Bills.