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NCAA Bracket Breakdown (125-157) | Session 100
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We break down the first half of the brackets for this year's NCAA DI Championships.
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00:00:00
Reese
these in a wad.
00:00:03
Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back to the barn session, everybody.
Approaches to NCAA Tournament Brackets
00:00:05
Cokeley Brothers
No panties and no wads on this show. Today, we're looking at brackets, finally. We're going to get this up two days before the NCAA tournament.
00:00:17
Cokeley Brothers
Show everybody what our picks are, what we think is going to happen. ah I'm going to warn you and the people right now. I filled out my brackets. I was planning on doing two sets.
00:00:31
Cokeley Brothers
One where it's like Okay, really just apply logic and think matchup to matchup. Who is really going to win this match? And like maybe expect some upsets here and there.
00:00:39
Reese
so do that.
Debating Multi-Bracket Strategies
00:00:45
Cokeley Brothers
ah And then my other brackets were going to just be bias. Just extreme bias. I only did the extreme bias. And so that's all I have for today.
00:00:55
Reese
Really?
00:00:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:00:58
Reese
OK.
00:01:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So that's what we're going to work off of.
00:01:00
Reese
Interesting. Why would you, I think two brackets is, um, complete and total blasphemy and should not be allowed.
00:01:09
Cokeley Brothers
Right. So I just did one set.
00:01:13
Reese
Okay.
00:01:13
Reese
And you pick, you pick, you pick fantasy you've picked fantasy over cold, hard science.
00:01:14
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:01:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. All
00:01:21
Cokeley Brothers
right.
Humorous Predictions and Realism
00:01:22
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:01:24
Cokeley Brothers
In this bracket, and my in my my my brackets, Indiana might be pulling for a trophy. They do. They do really well. um Which is not realistic at all, but I'm saying it now.
00:01:38
Reese
So what do they they have? Like their shots are like 25, 40, 49, 97.
00:01:40
Cokeley Brothers
So that the people can say.
00:01:40
Reese
it 49 yet? Or maybe is it 57 or 65? It's not 65. Lillard Lillard qualify?
00:01:49
Reese
is a forty nine getter maybe is's a fifty seven
00:01:49
Cokeley Brothers
is. 49 didn't qualify.
00:01:50
Cokeley Brothers
Joey Butler and.
00:01:52
Reese
or it six five
00:01:53
Cokeley Brothers
the but forty nine didn't qualify ah joy butler
00:01:56
Reese
not sixty five did liard load qualify
00:01:57
Cokeley Brothers
ah and Lillard qualified. At 57, they have Bryce Lowry. At 74, they have Derek Gilcher.
00:02:04
Reese
Oh,
00:02:05
Cokeley Brothers
And at 84, they have the most disrespected 33 seed in the entire tournament. See, I'm going.
00:02:13
Reese
yeah. Guilcher is good, too. Yeah.
00:02:16
Cokeley Brothers
Gilcher, yes. he i think I think things are starting to fall off the rails a little bit. just with his body, his health, he's at the very end of his career, these things happen, but we'll see, maybe he can put it together for three days.
Bracket Strategy: Upsets and Matchups
00:02:33
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, where do you want to get started? 125. Okay. Well, sure.
00:02:37
Reese
Yes. 125. Major upsets, maybe? Is that what we should do? First rounds?
00:02:50
Reese
Okay, well. thank You. well What did you do? Did you go fantasy for the whole bracket or just Indiana specifically? Or were you like...
00:03:00
Cokeley Brothers
No, i I like...
00:03:01
Reese
Were you like weak wit over Lukeville at all?
00:03:02
Cokeley Brothers
If if there were...
00:03:07
Cokeley Brothers
um No, Witt goes 1-2 in my bracket.
00:03:11
Reese
Okay. I'm
00:03:15
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe I should have done that differently, but he goes 1-2.
Jacob Moran's Tournament Path
00:03:18
Cokeley Brothers
um Jacob Moran makes the finals. Which...
00:03:24
Reese
fine with. miran make i'm fine with
00:03:27
Cokeley Brothers
it's really It's really not as insane as you'd think. He has Tyson Tarukina, round one, totally winnable match.
00:03:41
Cokeley Brothers
ah it it would that Well within his wheelhouse to win. Then he's got Nick Buzakis, who he just wrestled to a one takedown match for third at Big Tens. After that, it's either Jory Volk or Tyler Klinsky. I expect Volk.
00:03:55
Cokeley Brothers
That... Maybe is not a super winnable match. Maybe. i don't know. It's the quarters. Maybe Volk is really pulling. I don't know. But.
00:04:05
Reese
You know who what I did there and that little ah quarter?
00:04:06
Cokeley Brothers
I. What? What?
00:04:12
Reese
i put Rourke over Volk.
00:04:16
Cokeley Brothers
That's that's possible. Rourke beat Volk earlier in this year. i don't really expect it to happen again with how good.
00:04:21
Reese
I admit.
00:04:24
Reese
Why not?
00:04:24
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:04:26
Cokeley Brothers
Right. I mean, look, if I just wanted to pull pull out everything, yeah, that could have been an option.
Likelihood of First-Round Upsets
00:04:34
Cokeley Brothers
ah On the other quadrant...
00:04:35
Reese
That was my one big upset.
00:04:39
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:04:40
Reese
That was my one big upset of the first round.
00:04:44
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Rourke beating Volk. Which is funny, because it happened earlier this year, so it's like...
00:04:46
Reese
Yeah. Right.
00:04:49
Reese
Right.
00:04:49
Cokeley Brothers
It would happen, and then people would be like...
00:04:52
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, was it really that big of an upset? You beat him earlier this year.
00:04:55
Reese
Right.
00:04:57
Cokeley Brothers
ah Bottom half of this bracket, I have Eddie Ventresca losing to Spencer Moore, which i I pulled out because ah my expectation for Spencer Moore to be able to beat him is riding him out because Spencer Moore has boots on top, so he could do it.
00:05:16
Cokeley Brothers
And then Nico Provo to beat Mark Anthony McGowan, and then Nico Provo to beat Spencer Moore.
00:05:18
Reese
Writing out Ventresca.
00:05:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
Tournament Outcome Projections
00:05:28
Reese
I mean, has he ever beaten Ventresco?
00:05:28
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:05:30
Cokeley Brothers
Ventresca, I don't think so. They must have wrestled before, though.
00:05:33
Reese
They probably have wrestled. Yeah.
00:05:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Should have looked at that, but I didn't. i was I was filling out these brackets from the heart, and then Provo makes the semis. Moran beats Provo in the semis.
00:05:47
Cokeley Brothers
On the top half, ah Luke Lillidal. Everything kind of goes to scratch for Lillidal to make the semis. Spratly beats Vince Robinson and then Sheldon Seymour and then beats Luke Lilladol and then Spratly wins it.
00:05:57
Reese
Yeah.
00:06:01
Cokeley Brothers
So he takes first. Moran takes second. ah Bousakis gets revenge in third place to beat Luke Lilladol. Nico Provo takes fifth over Vince Robinson, be beating him for like the third time this year.
00:06:14
Cokeley Brothers
And Eddie Ventresca takes seventh place over Jory Volk.
00:06:22
Reese
Okay. Okay.
00:06:26
Reese
I wish I, my brackets were flushed out as yours, but they aren't.
00:06:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and then my my blood rounders are Sheldon Seymour, Dean Peterson, Spencer Moore, and Jet Strickenberger.
00:06:33
Reese
But I could say, I could.
00:06:46
Reese
Okay.
00:06:46
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see how that goes.
Wrestlers' Tough Paths and Critical Matches
00:06:49
Reese
I'm just going to take a wild yes. here and say that I'm probably going to have something like Spratly in the finals against...
00:06:53
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:07:03
Reese
I don't know, man. Dude, that bottom side is so tough. to Between Vizakis, Ventresca, and McGowan, for me, those are like the three names that I want to put in the finals.
00:07:16
Cokeley Brothers
You don't really have too much on Provo.
00:07:21
Reese
No. I don't know why, but I don't.
00:07:23
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. I think Magoan beat him at CKLV.
00:07:30
Reese
Beat Pro- who?
00:07:33
Cokeley Brothers
Provo.
00:07:34
Reese
McGowan beat Progo- beat Progo?
00:07:38
Cokeley Brothers
Pretty sure he did.
00:07:39
Reese
Did Progo beat McGowan?
00:07:40
Cokeley Brothers
And they obviously...
00:07:40
Reese
Oh, I know.
00:07:44
Reese
Well, yeah, I don't know.
00:07:45
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, it
00:07:46
Reese
I- what?
00:07:51
Cokeley Brothers
it could go back and forth. There's a lot of parity on the and this bottom half.
00:07:53
Reese
Yeah.
00:07:57
Reese
Yeah.
Analyzing Wrestlers' Chances
00:08:00
Reese
Yeah. I'm not going to do A's. I'm just going to get out ahead and put that out there.
00:08:05
Cokeley Brothers
That's fine. That's fine.
00:08:07
Reese
Alright.
00:08:08
Cokeley Brothers
Well, any other any other interesting matchups or guys that you want to shout out at 125?
00:08:14
Reese
Obviously, Zequit is is um wrestling really, really hot right now, and I think
00:08:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:08:20
Reese
like based where he falls in the bracket, you know, if he wins his first match, I think he could totally make it to the blood round.
00:08:31
Reese
And then the blood round, you'd have what? i I mean, he could help, dude. He's got a great path to place.
00:08:38
Cokeley Brothers
It, it really, so he needs to be able to be stricken burger for what is it the second or third or like fourth time this year?
00:08:49
Reese
Um... Yeah, well, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For, like, the fourth time. And
00:08:59
Cokeley Brothers
So
00:08:59
Reese
and then, you know, and then he would have some tough tough matches after that. But winnable matches, unless in that blood round he ends up with Buzakas. That's the, I feel like, the one guy you don't want to end up with in the blood round.
00:09:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I was. Yeah. So like wit. I mean, I'm i'm apprehensive to say that he's going to be stricken burger for the umpteenth time this season. It's possible he might just have his number and he just beats him every single time.
00:09:27
Cokeley Brothers
um And if that happens and he loses,
00:09:28
Reese
Listen dude, this first round right off the scale.
00:09:30
Cokeley Brothers
huh
00:09:35
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, and Strix big. Yeah, I could see that. And then he'll have Kota Holman or Spencer Moore, somebody like that. And then probably Maximo Renteria or Dean Peterson. Yeah.
Support for Kansas Wrestlers
00:09:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he could do it, but it is going to be tough. And then he's, yeah, he's going to have Wuzakas, Volk, Klinsky, Moran. Yeah.
00:10:00
Cokeley Brothers
Not going to be the most straightforward path, but he it's one that he could navigate.
00:10:08
Cokeley Brothers
I agree. And that's a Kansas boy. And we always support the Kansas wrestlers because they are few and far between on the collegiate level.
00:10:14
Reese
Yes, we do.
00:10:17
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:10:19
Reese
Two.
00:10:20
Cokeley Brothers
133 pounds.
00:10:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yep, there's two. Zeke Witt and Jared Sima.
00:10:28
Cokeley Brothers
Dylan
Drake Ayala's Potential Victory Path
00:10:29
Cokeley Brothers
Elmore, I think, is the 34th at 165. So he's an alternate.
00:10:32
Reese
Yeah.
00:10:40
Cokeley Brothers
I've had a narrative for 133 pounds and it's going to go. december i've had a narrative for a hundred and thirty three pounds and how it's going to go And so a couple things need to happen for it to even be possible.
00:10:55
Cokeley Brothers
ah That narrative is Drake Ayala winning this weight class. wo Yikes. Not easy to do.
00:11:02
Reese
Thank you.
00:11:03
Cokeley Brothers
um if there were If there was a bracket for him to win, this would be the most impressive one. Now, how does he do it? What is his path? Step one.
00:11:15
Cokeley Brothers
ah I mean, I think he gets by Marcel Lopez and then Tyler Ferrara or Zach Redding. Then the real challenge comes with Marcus Blaze in the quarters. He's lost to him twice. Last one was sudden victory. He's kept this one tight.
00:11:30
Cokeley Brothers
I think he gets it figured out in the third.
00:11:33
Reese
Is he keeping it tight?
00:11:36
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:11:37
Reese
Is he the one keeping it tight, though?
00:11:40
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, the the score is tight. you know that's who You can look at whoever, but either way, you get you end up in a sudden victory match. That's a match that you can win.
00:11:49
Reese
I guess, man.
00:11:52
Reese
I mean, he was close to taking Dandovino. I will say that. That's the closest I've seen him to breaking through the the top echelon.
00:11:52
Cokeley Brothers
I know.
00:12:00
Reese
But that's it, man.
00:12:01
Cokeley Brothers
Out Blaze, Divino, Forrest...
00:12:03
Cokeley Brothers
out of blaze deino and forestre
00:12:08
Cokeley Brothers
Blaze would be the most beatable for him in my mind. ah Now, you might be saying, okay, he gets he gets past Marcus Blaze.
00:12:13
Reese
Yeah, maybe.
00:12:16
Cokeley Brothers
how does he How does he make it through the semifinals? Well, he doesn't have to beat Ben DeVino because Lucas Bird has a little bit of a chip on his shoulder as a returning national champion coming into this weight or coming into this this weekend, 20-2 as the seventh seed.
00:12:19
Reese
Okay.
00:12:32
Cokeley Brothers
So he's going to knock off Ben DeVino. Ooh, maybe, maybe not. gonna be a tough one, but I think he can do it. um And then Ayala just has to beat Bird. He did it earlier this season. He did it last week um or two weeks ago. And i think he can do it again.
00:12:47
Cokeley Brothers
And then, now, you might say, okay, okay, Sammy, you've woven this web. You've spun this this story about Drake Ayala making the finals.
00:12:52
Reese
what
00:12:56
Cokeley Brothers
And that's all fine and dandy. But he got tech slammed by Jax Forrest. So hows he supposed to how is he supposed to flip that one? Ugh. Look. Drake Ayala can't beat Jax Forrest, but Aaron Seidel can.
00:13:13
Cokeley Brothers
and I'll tell you what, Aaron Seidel, I bet you, I bet you it's like it's like Rocky Balboa in Rocky IV. He's got the picture of Ivan Drago on his mirror, and his Ivan Drago is Jax Forrest.
00:13:26
Cokeley Brothers
He wants that match. He wants that win more than anything, more than a national title. So he's going to beat Jax Forrest in the semis, And then he is going to go into the finals.
00:13:37
Cokeley Brothers
Mission accomplished. not even Not even really thinking about winning a national title. And Drake Ayala gets the job done.
00:13:47
Reese
Why, my only question here is, why do you, why?
00:13:47
Cokeley Brothers
This is how it happens, Reese.
00:13:55
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i think it would be really cool.
00:13:55
Reese
Why?
00:13:59
Cokeley Brothers
I think Iowa needs a national champ this year. And this is the second most feasible path.
00:14:08
Reese
Behind
00:14:08
Cokeley Brothers
That's what I think.
00:14:09
Reese
Fed up.
00:14:10
Cokeley Brothers
Angelo. Yeah.
00:14:13
Cokeley Brothers
Because there's no way Caliendo can do it. I would give Ryder Block better chances of winning a national title than Michael Caliendo.
00:14:22
Reese
Yeah, well, you did it
00:14:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:14:25
Reese
You rationalized it completely and totally.
00:14:26
Cokeley Brothers
And then third place is... jit
00:14:31
Cokeley Brothers
I mean...
00:14:32
Reese
Except for the bird part.
00:14:33
Cokeley Brothers
I think beating Divino.
00:14:33
Reese
I really don't buy the bird part and I have a hard time buying him being, being blaze also safe for those two things.
00:14:41
Cokeley Brothers
yeah i mean, yeah.
00:14:43
Reese
Solid.
00:14:47
Cokeley Brothers
Those two critical elements to the situation.
00:14:49
Reese
Yeah. I mean, he could beat Divino, honestly, though.
00:14:51
Cokeley Brothers
Um.
00:14:52
Reese
like you don't I don't think he hat Bird has to beat Divino. I think he can beat Divino. He was right there to take Divino down and win in their second match.
00:15:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But...
00:15:08
Reese
And you you can you can also argue that NCAA, Ayala fantastic.
00:15:14
Reese
Fucking locked in, bro. Like to the max. Like there aren there are not like that many guys that you could say peak Like outside of Penn State wrestlers like Drake Ayala does. That dude peaks.
00:15:28
Reese
Hard.
00:15:30
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, no kidding. Speaking of Penn State wrestlers, so i there was a, there was a tweet from Bash about, over under for number of national champs for Penn State. And the, ah the line was five and a half.
00:15:42
Cokeley Brothers
And I quote tweeted it and said, if you are taking the over, you're, you're, you're a part of the cult.
00:15:43
Reese
That's crazy.
00:15:48
Cokeley Brothers
You're drinking the Kool-Aid. This is insane. Uh,
Penn State's Historical Performance
00:15:52
Reese
Thank you.
00:15:52
Cokeley Brothers
The math does and doesn't support me on that one.
00:15:56
Cokeley Brothers
Over the last five years, the number of one seeds, the percentage of one seeds to actually win their bracket is 46%. However, ah historically, Kale Sanderson, Penn State, with Kale Sanderson at the reins, the number of one seeds for Kale Sanderson to win a national title is, i think the percentage is like 77%.
00:16:17
Cokeley Brothers
seventy seven percent um which makes that number a lot closer.
00:16:21
Reese
What it? Brayden Davis.
00:16:25
Cokeley Brothers
77% of Kale Sanderson's wrestlers that have the one seed at nationals win a national title.
00:16:33
Cokeley Brothers
So that makes it tough. Who was the first one seed under Kale Sanderson to lose for Penn State?
00:16:46
Reese
and davis
00:16:51
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no, no, not quite that. He did not have that long of a streak. It was Bo Nickel.
00:16:55
Reese
bit fair I
00:16:57
Cokeley Brothers
even Even still, like, what is that? 2011 to 2016?
00:17:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So was Bo Nickel, Morgan McIntosh, Mark Hall,
00:17:04
Reese
don't know. Oh, Bo and Nicko.
00:17:10
Cokeley Brothers
um ah Braden Davis, Tyler Kasach, Luke Lillardal. I think those are the six one seeds that haven't.
00:17:18
Reese
Was Bo and...
00:17:20
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, and RBY.
00:17:21
Reese
Was it Bo? The first one?
00:17:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it was both. Yeah.
00:17:25
Reese
That was the first one
00:17:27
Cokeley Brothers
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:17:29
Reese
one.
00:17:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, those are my ah Penn State stats, um which you might be saying, Sam, you're not a Penn State fan. are you so obsessed with them? They're the freaking – when you have a phenomenon like this – Yeah, when you have a an element that that transcends dominance in sport across all other sports –
00:17:40
Reese
It's history.
00:17:50
Cokeley Brothers
you got it You gotta observe it. You gotta you gotta to put it in scope a little bit. The rest of my three 133-pound placers. Third place is Jax Forrest. He beats Ben DeVino in the Conce semis.
Predictions for Top Wrestlers
00:18:03
Cokeley Brothers
um He takes fourth or third place over a fourth-place finish out of Lucas Bird, who beats Kyler Larkin. DeVino beats Larkin for fifth. Marcus Blaze beats Tyler Ferrara for seventh. ah And the Blood Rounders are Zan Fugit.
00:18:17
Cokeley Brothers
ah Jacob Van Dominic Serrano, and Tyler Knox.
00:18:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:18:28
Reese
Who do I pick to put who to Russell Forrest in the quarters? Who do I pick? I don't know anything about Marco Baker. And I had i have Blake Borman beating Dom Serrano in the first round.
00:18:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So you've kind of done yourself you've done yourself in a little bit
00:18:45
Reese
Mark L Baker.
00:18:47
Cokeley Brothers
Because I would have gone Serrano. But yeah, just go Baker.
00:18:50
Reese
Yeah.
00:18:51
Cokeley Brothers
Just go Chalk, Reese. Just do it.
00:18:54
Reese
Just do it. Well, I didn't go to talk Sammy.
00:18:58
Cokeley Brothers
Just do it. Well, yeah, but Baker beating Borman would be Chalk.
00:19:04
Reese
Yeah, it would be and all the all the all my results are shot.
00:19:06
Cokeley Brothers
what Give me
00:19:10
Cokeley Brothers
give me your finalists.
00:19:10
Reese
I hate that. when I do that.
00:19:15
Cokeley Brothers
Give me your finalists, Reese.
00:19:15
Reese
Uh,
00:19:18
Reese
Fuck, dude. This way it's tough, bro. I mean, really in my heart of hearts, I wanted to be in finals. I wanted to be in order to beat Blaze again. um
00:19:29
Reese
Part of me feels like Blaze is going to beat him this time around. Even though Blaze really couldn't find a way to score. So that makes me feel better.
00:19:37
Cokeley Brothers
No. Yeah. yeah
00:19:41
Reese
um
00:19:44
Reese
think, you know, once I get there, Once I, you know, agonize over it, I've been agonizing over these brackets just the first round for like three days now.
00:19:56
Reese
I mean, I
Struggles with Bracket Strategies
00:19:57
Reese
really, I've just been kind of sidetracked or whatever, but, um, I just, I don't know, man. I just don't know. They're not, these are not as easy to fill out as they used to be for me.
00:20:11
Reese
I used to be able to be like, Oh yeah. I picture the match in my head and then like easy, but I don't know. I don't I don't know anymore. I think I'm going to go Divino and yeah, Divino side out.
00:20:25
Reese
That's what I'm gonna do right now.
00:20:28
Cokeley Brothers
Woo!
00:20:29
Reese
I'm gonna go Divino side out and over forest blaze.
00:20:30
Cokeley Brothers
Woo!
00:20:33
Reese
One of those two.
00:20:36
Cokeley Brothers
Right. You can't have ah mix-up, and I don't want a Hawkeye or an Illini in that finals. That's what you're saying, right?
00:20:48
Reese
Well, a lot and not in a lion eye. Dude, Lucas Byrd is not making the finals, bro. He has completely lost favor for
Lucas Bird's Tournament Expectations
00:20:55
Reese
me. they seem There must be something wrong with him.
00:20:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. but
00:20:58
Reese
Or he just wasn't ready. i don't know.
00:21:02
Cokeley Brothers
I think I think that was a totally like I'm not shocked by that performance. Just not.
00:21:11
Reese
So, what makes you think he's going to Like, he was he was lights out all a year last year. And that was the that was what got him a national title.
00:21:22
Reese
And this year, that Big Ten performance was not lights out.
00:21:24
Cokeley Brothers
Was he lights out really?
00:21:26
Reese
Dude, what do you mean? He pinned Ayala in the finals. Wasn't he undefeated?
00:21:30
Cokeley Brothers
of the of Of Big Tens, No.
00:21:34
Reese
He wasn't undefeated?
00:21:36
Cokeley Brothers
No. No.
00:21:39
Reese
beat him.
00:21:42
Cokeley Brothers
Take a wild guess.
00:21:45
Reese
Hmm.
00:21:48
Reese
I mean, did I all be
00:21:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Now, before I make a fool of myself, let me make sure that I'm right.
00:21:52
Reese
okay. Was that it?
00:21:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, it was Ayala. Dude, are you are you able to hear me?
00:22:01
Reese
Yeah.
00:22:03
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. He's 23-1 last year, and his one loss was in the Iowa-Illinois duel to Drake Iowa.
00:22:09
Reese
Okay.
00:22:11
Cokeley Brothers
23-1 with 33% bonus rate. ah Fairly high amount of decisions. um Yeah. I don't know.
00:22:27
Cokeley Brothers
don't know. We'll see.
Brock Hardy's Championship Potential
00:22:29
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see. We're going to move on to 141 pounds where I'm going to upset More people than I'm. im
00:22:37
Cokeley Brothers
I'm sad that I've done this.
00:22:37
Reese
Okay.
00:22:38
Cokeley Brothers
But I've done it.
00:22:39
Reese
What'd you do?
00:22:39
Reese
2014.
00:22:39
Cokeley Brothers
so Okay.
00:22:45
Cokeley Brothers
There's another. There's another camp. That I've been a part of. Reese. And you've been a part of this camp. ah Maybe not quite as long as me. um Because being on this camp. Since 2014. It's long time.
00:22:59
Cokeley Brothers
long time You might even you not even call this a camp. You might call this a party.
00:23:04
Reese
twenty fourteen
00:23:07
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:23:07
Reese
Oh,
00:23:08
Cokeley Brothers
do you want to Do you want to be a part of the Hardy Party? Or do you you want to get do you want to get off that train right now?
00:23:13
Reese
I'm always down to party. You know me.
00:23:18
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. All right.
00:23:19
Reese
There was nothing in me that wavered when i watched in the in the biggest screen possible Brock Hardy get pinned, get stacked.
00:23:20
Cokeley Brothers
Well.
00:23:30
Reese
I didn't feel any.
00:23:31
Cokeley Brothers
We, yeah, you were like,
00:23:32
Reese
I felt nothing. I felt the only only thing I felt was run it back.
00:23:38
Cokeley Brothers
run it back, run it back.
00:23:38
Reese
Again, run it back, back.
00:23:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. ah
00:23:44
Reese
That's what i thought.
00:23:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. for For context, we installed 98 inch TV in our dad's basement. And it's a cinematic experience. So, and we watched, ah actually, not we not even we, because i was yeah i was using the restroom. I'm not thinking that the the Sergio Vega-Brock Hardy match would end in mere moments, but it did.
00:24:09
Cokeley Brothers
um So, that happened.
00:24:11
Reese
And it was it was like, the the the the funny thing was the TV was on the ground.
00:24:12
Cokeley Brothers
But...
00:24:16
Reese
It wasn't and it wasn't mounted the wall.
00:24:19
Reese
So it looked like they were like live-size wrestlers, right?
00:24:19
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah.
00:24:20
Cokeley Brothers
Not yet. Yeah. yeah
00:24:23
Reese
They looked like they were wrestling right in front of us.
00:24:24
Cokeley Brothers
It did.
00:24:25
Reese
Pretty cool.
00:24:27
Cokeley Brothers
i was It was crazy. um All right. I have Brock Hardy winning a national title. I have him beating, ah pinning Brayden Davis in in the Thursday night, and then beating Vince Cornell in the quarters, beating Sergio Vega, getting his vengeance in the semis, and then beating Jesse Mendez in the finals, cementing himself as the 141-pound national champ.
Potential Tournament Upsets
00:24:54
Cokeley Brothers
And um to my Ohio State friends, I'm sorry. Okay. But I had to do something. I had to do something. And this is what I landed this is what i landed with.
00:25:04
Reese
You're doing house kid dirty.
00:25:05
Cokeley Brothers
So
00:25:08
Cokeley Brothers
yeah I have, I have, I've done, yeah I've done, I've done bad things to Ohio State the first three weights.
00:25:09
Reese
Well, that's not bad.
00:25:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. um I mean, I mean, Buzaka's taking third isn't bad.
00:25:17
Reese
Well, another option here, you, that's not bad and
00:25:22
Cokeley Brothers
No, he wrestled to a seed.
00:25:26
Cokeley Brothers
Um, and then Etchimedia takes third.
00:25:28
Reese
well so
00:25:31
Reese
another option here you Dude, I am really excited, like really, really, really excited about one thing in this weight.
Luke Stanich's Potential Run
00:25:41
Reese
And I think you should probably be able to guess what it is that I'm excited about in this weight.
00:25:49
Cokeley Brothers
Is it, is it Luke Stanage?
00:25:52
Reese
It's Luke Stanish, dude.
00:25:54
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:25:54
Reese
How can you not be excited about Luke Stanish?
00:25:55
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. That makes sense. i I too am excited for Luke Stanich. um
00:26:00
Reese
This is, so this is, he, right off the ground. Right off the gate, dude. He's got Pearson Manville.
00:26:08
Reese
This is tailor-made.
00:26:08
Cokeley Brothers
Tough.
00:26:09
Cokeley Brothers
That's a tough 28 seed.
00:26:10
Reese
This is a tailor-made Luke Stanich tournament run. I mean, he could go... He could do the whole damn thing. I mean, what he did at junior duels, what he did at junior trials and then at junior duels is probably more impressive than anything any of these guys have done outside Jesse Mendez.
00:26:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:27
Cokeley Brothers
Worlds.
00:26:31
Cokeley Brothers
junior Junior Worlds.
00:26:32
Reese
Especially... What'd I say?
00:26:37
Cokeley Brothers
Duels.
00:26:39
Reese
Oh, yeah. Junior Nationals and then Junior Worlds.
00:26:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:44
Reese
um Dude.
00:26:47
Cokeley Brothers
It is. You're right. Now, Vince...
00:26:49
Reese
You ran out.
00:26:52
Cokeley Brothers
Vince Cornella had him beat.
00:26:55
Reese
Exactly, bro. Exactly.
00:26:58
Reese
That's what...
00:26:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:26:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. yeah You're right. You're right. You're right.
00:27:04
Reese
He is a dog.
00:27:05
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, man.
00:27:05
Reese
And like, when you think about what he did against Bo Bassett in those, in that series, and do you think Bo Bassett has gotten like way better or it wasn't even a year ago that he beat Bo Bassett straight up three, three times, two times.
00:27:17
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:27:21
Cokeley Brothers
Every butt. ah He beat him. He beat him at the US Open and then beat him two out of three matches. He did lose, but he beat him two out of three matches at... ah
00:27:31
Reese
Three wins.
00:27:32
Cokeley Brothers
um three wins three wins on bo bassett in the span of a month and a half or whatever now there are a lot of people who say bo bassett is like transcendentally more improved since then i don't maybe he's better but i don't know what necessarily suggests that he's like bo like like tears ahead where he used to be i don't know what's tell what's telling people that but um stanich is good stanch is good i have some concerns
00:27:55
Reese
No, dude. It hasn't even been a year yet.
00:28:02
Cokeley Brothers
And one is the amount of time he's been on the mat. He has not had, he's got 13 matches. He wasn't there for basically the entire first semester. He,
00:28:12
Reese
Same number as Jack Sporch.
00:28:13
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:28:16
Cokeley Brothers
same number as Jack's forest. ah
00:28:22
Cokeley Brothers
And the other thing that a lot of people are going to reference are, well, he, Jesse Mendez and Luke Stanich did wrestle each other at the Clarion open last year. And well, it wasn't very pretty for Luke Stanich. So how do you answer that race?
00:28:34
Reese
I answered that by saying Luke Stanich was not a 141. He was not a full size 141. That's why he redshirted last year and got bigger.
00:28:41
Cokeley Brothers
It
00:28:44
Reese
And now he's, he's a big boy. Now, even though Jesse Mendez also looks like he has gotten bigger, he looks humongous. um I just, dude, I just think like,
00:28:44
Cokeley Brothers
was a boy wrestling a man.
00:28:57
Reese
Watching what he did against Bo Bassett, who was wrestling 150 pounds, and just... I mean, there were he was murdering high school kids, but still. He was wrestling 150 pounds. And seeing what Luke was able to do against Bo, I just like, man, it gives me something within my... Something is stirring within me that tells me... I don't think he's going to have any... like Once he gets past Pearson Manville, um...
00:29:27
Reese
I think if he can like comfort comfortably beat Pearson Manville, then I'm like, he's got no – I'll have no doubt against – doubts with him like making it to the semis.
00:29:41
Reese
And then when makes to the semis, obviously he's to have Jesse Mendez. And then – I mean, I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to have him beat Mendez. I don't know. But um maybe.
00:29:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So you're not super worried about him against Etchimendia.
00:29:53
Reese
Maybe I do. I'm not, I'm not worried about him against Etchimendia. I think that's a good matchup for him. Etchimendia is a guy who I think like has struggled to like get, get the job done in like countless matches, big matches and stand it to someone who's proven that he's, you know, he could, he's a, he's ah like a winner straight up, you know, he is a certified winner if there ever was one.
00:30:03
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. Okay.
00:30:22
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Yeah. Now, so, i mean, I really have, I have the quarterfinals, like, up to the quarters, I have everything going chalk. ah Uh...
00:30:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, all all eight all top eight seeds making it to the quarters. The only one that flips is Stan beating Etchimendia. Honestly, Nasir Bailey, Sergio Vega, i would circle that one and I would be nervous if I was a cowboy because those have been two close matches. And Nasir Bailey, if you look at his entire season, this these these this Big Ten tournament was the best that he looked.
00:30:57
Cokeley Brothers
So nobody's taking down Sergio Vega.
00:31:03
Cokeley Brothers
but it could happen Friday morning. So we'll see.
00:31:06
Reese
Yeah, dude, yeah. I think, like, a lot of people are definitely overlooking the Bayley-Vega quarter, if that that's how it how it plays out. Like, mainly I'm talking about, like, the flow, pet the guys at Flow.
00:31:15
Cokeley Brothers
who
00:31:18
Reese
I'm just, I've been listening to FRL, and they're like, they don't think Bayley has a shot, really, which surprises me.
00:31:27
Cokeley Brothers
i mean, i think i think if you're able to keep everything within one takedown, it's possible.
00:31:33
Reese
I mean, I'll probably pick Bayley.
00:31:34
Cokeley Brothers
and And then honestly, Hardy-Cornella, I think Hardy probably can handedly win that, but I'm not writing it off as like a total, like,
00:31:45
Reese
How bad did, uh, Cornella beat Composto?
00:31:50
Cokeley Brothers
think he's beaten them three times this year and solid decision wins, I think, all of them. Let take a look here.
00:31:58
Reese
Composto man. Dangerous, dangerous March guy.
Composto's Dangerous Competitiveness
00:32:04
Cokeley Brothers
Dangerous indeed.
00:32:08
Cokeley Brothers
ah It was against Composto. Composto, beat him five to three ah in the conference championships, seven to four in the duel.
00:32:20
Cokeley Brothers
And then at the southern scuffle, he beat him 7-2.
00:32:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Third place, Echemendia beats Vince Cornella. Sergio Vega takes fifth, beating Luke Stanich. And... I'm getting a phone call. Hang on. And Nasir Bailey beats Vance Vaumbauer for seventh.
00:32:46
Reese
Who's calling you?
00:32:49
Cokeley Brothers
ah Probably my wife, if I had to guess. Which... Uh-oh.
00:32:54
Reese
Where's she?
00:32:55
Cokeley Brothers
That's okay, though. She's at a conference. Alright, 149.
00:33:04
Cokeley Brothers
What was that? The trail mix. Okay, great. At least you muted yourself. um 149 a weight class described as chaotic uh the entire year all year long this is this weight class has been nothing but pure pandemonium with one singular gravitational center at at the entire shit storm that has been 149 pounds and that's shane ban ness penn state 21 and 0 pretty dang dominant pretty cool guy
00:33:41
Cokeley Brothers
ah I think there's... I've got three names... I've got three names that I want to see go up against him.
00:33:52
Reese
Thank you.
00:33:53
Cokeley Brothers
And two of them do. One of them is Casey Swiderski. I think that's a very interesting matchup. ah I don't know if Swiderski necessarily has the...
00:34:06
Cokeley Brothers
ah If he's going to be able to navigate all of the positions that Van Ness puts him in, especially later on in the match... But I don't think the pace that Van Ness puts on is going to be as big of an issue for Spiderski as it is for some of these other guys.
00:34:21
Cokeley Brothers
um I think that's a big element to it. ah The other two guys are Lachlan McNeil because he took him to sudden victory, which, duh. I mean, you want to see that again. And then Jackson Joy, who can be a problem on top. Honestly, with that, Colin Guy. Colin Guy can also be a problem on top.
00:34:39
Cokeley Brothers
So lots of interesting matchups here.
00:34:45
Reese
Dude.
00:34:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I got Jackson Joy beating Shane Van Ness in the finals.
00:34:49
Reese
I'm looking at this like, you know, because I've only filled out the first round. This second round, this second round championship side matchups, Every single one of them is a good match.
00:35:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yeah, yeah. Van Ness, Frost, David Evans, Swiderski, Biskins, Young, Lamer, Guy, Wozlewski, Rachi, McNeil, Tyus, Stiles, Valencia, Block, Joy, Banger, Banger, Banger, Banger. Those are all great matchups.
00:35:18
Cokeley Brothers
um Yeah, as like chaotic and really what kind of...
00:35:20
Reese
We all have the same
00:35:23
Cokeley Brothers
it's People somemate or summarize it into like it's chaotic and it's a weak weight class. I don't really know if I can... If I can put a stamp and say that it's weak, but at the very least, these matchups are interesting and, and the the wrestling
Shane Van Ness and Potential Upsets
00:35:37
Cokeley Brothers
is entertaining. So I'll take it.
00:35:40
Cokeley Brothers
That's where I'm at.
00:35:41
Reese
I think, dude, I think, i mean, after the last week at Big Tens, I think all bets are off.
00:35:42
Cokeley Brothers
What
00:35:51
Reese
Van Ness is totally, like after round one, that that dude, with Van Ness, bro, he it was he was in the hot seat for at least two matches.
00:35:52
Cokeley Brothers
do mean?
00:36:03
Reese
Yeah, just two matches, I think. The quarters and the semis.
00:36:06
Cokeley Brothers
ah he he He pinned Styles in the in the finals.
00:36:13
Reese
So i think um I think there's a lot of guys in here who could upset Van Ness, is what I'm saying.
00:36:14
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:36:22
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe you might be right.
00:36:23
Reese
Namely, like dude, I think Jacob Ross is a a... That's not an easy matchup. Swiderci could possibly be the worst matchup for Van Ness in this entire bracket.
00:36:37
Reese
um
00:36:37
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:36:39
Reese
The semis, I don't know. I don't know if Biscayne's a guy or... Flamer or Younger. i don't I don't know if but any of those guys can really can do it. But then, you know, mean, Joy.
00:36:52
Reese
Dude, i just I'm not on the Joy train. I just can't get get on the Jackson Joy train. Even though who's beating them this year?
00:37:00
Cokeley Brothers
You're missing out.
00:37:02
Reese
Biscons?
00:37:03
Cokeley Brothers
Biscons.
00:37:05
Reese
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Joy's the two. Ross Waslewski is the three. Like, that tells me That this the seeds are kind of like not exactly... They're not the difference makers that they are in other ways.
00:37:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, did Swiderski win Big 12s?
00:37:25
Reese
Different markers.
00:37:27
Cokeley Brothers
He did, right? Why
00:37:29
Reese
Yeah, he did. That's
00:37:32
Cokeley Brothers
is he the 8th seed?
Unexpected Seeding and Challenges
00:37:34
Reese
a great question. Because he lost two
00:37:37
Cokeley Brothers
and And you got Cross Wasilewski at the three seed?
00:37:40
Reese
Maybe... so He lost to Styles and Tyus, right?
00:37:46
Cokeley Brothers
Swiderski has lost to Biscons. Or who are you asking about?
00:37:51
Reese
So he's lost to Biscons, Tyus, and Stiles, right? Maybe not Stiles.
00:37:55
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's lost to Styles. He's lost to Joy. He's lost to Biscons. He's lost to Tyus. ah He...
00:38:07
Cokeley Brothers
He lost to Valencia, Aiden Valencia. um And then I can't remember who the fifth is.
00:38:14
Reese
Oh, yeah. Hmm.
00:38:17
Reese
sure
00:38:18
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe Block? Did Block beat him? think Block beat him.
00:38:24
Cokeley Brothers
I think Ryder Block beat i think he took three losses at national duels. Anyway, um I guess, I don't know. I feel like the seed is a little... if But maybe not.
00:38:38
Cokeley Brothers
ah crossway I don't know what Kross Wasilewski is doing at the three seed, ultimately, is, I guess, my point. But I'm fine with how the bracket's laid out.
Impact of Wrestler Injuries
00:38:45
Reese
I mean, Guy is like injured apparently, and he's the four seed.
00:38:45
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:38:49
Reese
So I think like you're not going to see Rock.
00:38:51
Cokeley Brothers
Guys injured?
00:38:53
Reese
Not not a long mount for a long shot. Yeah, Colin Guy, is ah is was i think that's what I heard, was that he was injured at ACC's and they kind of just put him out there and all like, let's see how he does, and he ended up winning it.
00:39:04
Reese
That was what I heard from Rock Harrison while watching the finals. I believe.
00:39:14
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Well, he did a bang-up job, so maybe it's a slew game.
00:39:18
Reese
Dude, him and Miskin's finals match was nice. was It was really good a match amongst – I think I said this on the previous podcast.
00:39:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's good.
00:39:28
Reese
It was a really good matchup amongst a lot of really bad matches in the finals.
00:39:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:39:34
Cokeley Brothers
Slower. Slower matchups, especially at those lighter weights. um ah The Biscuits has been a pleasant surprise all season long. like I didn't think after last season that he would you know, be the force that he is at this weight class, but he's, he's been good.
00:39:48
Cokeley Brothers
Um, some, some guys to really keep an eye on here are going to be like your Aiden Valencia, uh, Caleb Rachi, honestly, um Carter young as well.
00:39:49
Reese
Okay.
00:40:01
Cokeley Brothers
There's a lot of guys who are seated in the double digit range who are a problem. Um, And honestly, yeah I mean, this bracket, you're going to have some heartbreakers.
00:40:14
Cokeley Brothers
um Because, like, a chance Lamer and a Rider Block, those types of guys, you'd normally expect them to be, like, relatively easily making it into the the placement range.
00:40:27
Cokeley Brothers
ah I don't think I have. I don't think I have either of them. Do I have either of them making it to past Friday morning? I don't.
00:40:39
Cokeley Brothers
have Chance Lamer losing to Koi Biscons and Ryder Block losing to
Podium Predictions and Shake-Ups
00:40:44
Cokeley Brothers
Aiden Valencia. Yeah, dude, this is a tough bracket. Tough for the matchups. Man. ah Third place, Casey Swiderski. Fourth place, Ethan Stiles.
00:40:54
Cokeley Brothers
Fifth goes to Colin Guy. Sixth, Lachlan McNeil. He makes it to the semis, and then he takes that slide all the way down. Jacob Frost at seventh and Carter Young at eighth.
00:41:07
Cokeley Brothers
It's gonna be a good bracket. Good way to watch. Everybody needs to be able to tune into it.
00:41:14
Reese
I don't even know what to say. I going to have in the finals here?
00:41:18
Cokeley Brothers
yeah I don't.
00:41:18
Reese
Here's what I'm going to propose.
00:41:22
Reese
We do 57.
00:41:27
Reese
Call the raps. Do the back half tomorrow night. Maybe I'll have my brackets done.
00:41:32
Reese
well is that ah Is that an option or no?
00:41:32
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:41:37
Cokeley Brothers
but Do your top half bracket or the upper weight brackets. Do them.
00:41:44
Reese
Do what?
00:41:46
Cokeley Brothers
Do your upper weight brackets.
00:41:50
Reese
What saying?
00:41:52
Cokeley Brothers
Between now and tomorrow, do your upper weight brackets.
00:41:56
Reese
I'm going to do it all.
00:41:57
Cokeley Brothers
That way you have The just, well, that way you have the, the only thing you need to worry about between right now and tomorrow night, whenever we record the and next, the next episode is just taking care of 65 through 285.
Podcast Logistics and Future Planning
00:42:09
Reese
Okay, well, I was thinking maybe I could also, you know, read off my AAs for the bottom ones too. That's what I was saying.
00:42:15
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Priority one, upper weights, priority two, the other ones. Deal.
00:42:19
Reese
Okay. Yeah, yeah, I just don't want to like, dude, we're going to be like, well, this is, at this pace, we're going an hour and a half. We're going 90 minutes long, and I i can't do that.
00:42:28
Cokeley Brothers
I know. I see it.
00:42:33
Cokeley Brothers
i know. I know. All right. 157. I'm to piss some people off with this weight class.
00:42:44
Cokeley Brothers
I'm going to piss some people off and it's for my own personal gain.
PJ Duke's Dominance and Challenges
00:42:50
Cokeley Brothers
Your number one seed. Personal. I don't have but anything to gain from it, actually. Let me make that clear.
00:42:54
Cokeley Brothers
ah Your number one seed, PJ Duke.
00:42:55
Reese
Thank you.
00:42:58
Cokeley Brothers
Good God, did he look unstoppable at Big Tens. He looked like a monster. Did not look like a freshman. I mean, he looked like junior year's Zane Rutherford. Just a dog on a bone.
00:43:10
Cokeley Brothers
And like, the way it it felt like he was hunting down in his quarterfinals match and in his finals match between Brandon Cannon and Entrell Taylor, it felt like he was hunting them down.
00:43:21
Cokeley Brothers
Like they were prey and and he was a predator. PJ Duke looked like a predator at Big ah And that's kind of scary.
00:43:28
Reese
Easy, buddy.
00:43:31
Cokeley Brothers
Because if he if he looks...
00:43:31
Reese
Wow. What makes it? run He didn't but he'd beat Webster 42. Big deal.
00:43:38
Cokeley Brothers
I know, i didn't I didn't mention that part. Let me get to my narrative now. I'm just saying what happened. Other things that happened that make it kind of hard to like see the future reality where...
00:43:52
Cokeley Brothers
ah PJ Duke doesn't win this bracket. ah Entrell Taylor, your two seed, but got majored by him. Meyer Shapiro lost to Jude Swisher, who he's going to have to wrestle in the quarters unless Ty Waters wants to insert himself into the situation.
00:44:07
Cokeley Brothers
ah Caleb Larkin, he's a smaller 57-pounder. I don't really think he's going to have a whole lot of gusto to be able to take out PJ Duke.
00:44:13
Reese
Did he look small to you against Landon Ramadu?
00:44:17
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:44:18
Reese
Did he look small to you?
00:44:20
Cokeley Brothers
No, I mean, yes, yes and no. i Because, no, he didn't physically look small.
00:44:23
Reese
He did not look small.
00:44:26
Cokeley Brothers
But he made 49 earlier this season, dude. I mean, you you cannot, like...
00:44:29
Reese
then and then you see him And then you see him cut in weight post-Waters match.
00:44:36
Cokeley Brothers
i know, and they're chit-chatting and they're being buddies, and it's freaking cool. But... Rob-A-Doo, PJ Duke has had his number for a long time.
00:44:46
Cokeley Brothers
Jude Swisher has a move rough sixth seed. um He's had a solid year, but I wouldn't i don't feel great about him. Kanan Webster is a seventh seed. He can beat P.J. Duke. It's just going to be like, when do they ever wrestle each other? Now, I'm skipping eighth seed. Your ninth seed, Daniel Cardenas. I've talked about this. I said this last time we recorded. I've said it earlier this year. Daniel Cardenas is a tournament wrestler.
00:45:09
Cokeley Brothers
Friday morning in the quarterfinals, PJ Duke, Daniel Cardenas, that was a very close match in the duel. It is going to be even closer in the tournament. And I'll tell you what, right now, PJ Duke, kid who cuts a lot of weight to make 157, not gonna be feeling great Friday morning.
00:45:24
Cokeley Brothers
Daniel Cardenas is gonna win that match.
00:45:29
Reese
Yeah, I think I'm with you. Like, i think Duke, if if he's going lose, it's going to be either the quarters or the semis. Only person who's beating him in the finals, only person who has a prayer of beating him in the finals is Myron Shapiro, and he has to make it there.
00:45:45
Reese
So, yeah, I'm with you on that.
00:45:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:45:49
Reese
i think I think you're your guys are Cardenas, Larkin, Shapiro. Those are your three guys that can knock off
00:45:57
Reese
duke
00:45:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:45:59
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Right. And because like, I think if Webster meets him in the finals, somehow, I think he, I think he's like 40 pounds heavier than Keenan Webster. Cause I I'll tell you right now, I'm pretty sure.
00:46:07
Reese
Yeah.
00:46:09
Cokeley Brothers
we will never see PJ Duke wrestle 157 ever again. I'm pretty sure.
00:46:14
Reese
yeah I don't think that's, I think the point him go up or no him red shirt, right?
00:46:16
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:46:20
Reese
Him red shirt.
00:46:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, probably. Uh, other elements in this bracket, Landon Robidoux beats, uh, Robidoux beats Caleb Larkin in the quarters, gets his revenge. Myra Shapiro beats Ty Waters, who beat Jude Swisher, uh, to make the semis. Entrell Taylor beats Kanan Webster in a controversial match that everybody's going to boo because they think Entrell Taylor should have been stalled out of the match.
Meyer Shapiro's Path to Finals
00:46:44
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Shapiro makes the finals. Uh, Robidoux, Robidoux, Robidoux, Landon makes the the finals and Myra Shapiro wins it. Um,
00:46:54
Cokeley Brothers
I tried my damnedest to...
00:46:56
Reese
How do you think Robbidou is getting past Larkin?
00:47:01
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, he's got that dog in him.
00:47:03
Reese
Okay.
00:47:05
Cokeley Brothers
um I don't make the rules.
00:47:06
Reese
I mean, Larkin, Sempera's already beaten Larkin either way, so.
00:47:07
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:47:11
Cokeley Brothers
No. It could be Larkin.
00:47:13
Reese
Even though.
00:47:14
Cokeley Brothers
It could be Cardenas for all I care. Whatever. Just Shapiro wins. ah i tried I tried as hard as I possibly could to get the 29 seed Bryce Lowry onto the podium.
00:47:18
Reese
Okay, okay.
Bryce Lowry's Tough Tournament Path
00:47:24
Cokeley Brothers
He loses round one to Caleb Larkin.
00:47:26
Reese
Thank you.
00:47:26
Cokeley Brothers
that's That's a tough match for win. Jimmy Harrington, he can win that match. Ethan Miller, he can win that match. Vinny Zerbin, who can't see straight right now, he can win that match.
00:47:38
Cokeley Brothers
So he's in the blood round, and he has P.J. Duke. He's going win that match. He's not going that match. He loses in the blood round. P.J. Duke makes it, moves on. He's got ah Larkin.
00:47:50
Cokeley Brothers
He loses to Larkin, and then loses to Kanan Webster for seventh place. P.J. Duke takes eighth.
Biased Picks and Personal Hopes
00:47:55
Cokeley Brothers
ah um So it's Shapiro at first, Rabideu at second, Brandon Cannon at third, Larkin at fourth, Enchel Taylor at fifth, Cardenas at sixth, Webster at seventh, Duke at eighth.
00:48:08
Cokeley Brothers
And i will need to remind the people, these picks are extremely biased. I don't, I want these things to happen. I don't really expect them to, but I want them to happen.
00:48:18
Reese
Yeah.
00:48:22
Reese
What would be your expectations of this play?
00:48:23
Cokeley Brothers
and so,
00:48:25
Reese
What would be your expected results?
00:48:26
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:48:33
Reese
Duke, champ?
00:48:37
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i still so I could still see him losing, but I think on the back side, he makes a much... like he He probably takes third. Yeah.
00:48:42
Reese
hes Yeah, he's smashing. um If he loses, he's smashing backside.
00:48:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:48:46
Reese
Or maybe not.
00:48:48
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah. I don't know. Um...
00:48:55
Cokeley Brothers
i think I think Shapiro is going to have a hard time really putting together a complete tournament.
00:48:57
Reese
I want to see Ty Waters.
00:49:02
Cokeley Brothers
Ty Waters?
00:49:02
Reese
Oh, bro, I want to think Waters, like, against some of these dudes. Like, bro, he was, what was his match?
00:49:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:49:07
Reese
13? Or no, it was 9 to 8 against Larkin, right?
00:49:12
Cokeley Brothers
But it was still a lot of fun.
00:49:14
Reese
That's what I'm saying. Like, I want to see
Ty Waters' Tournament Potential
00:49:16
Reese
some more of that.
00:49:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:49:16
Reese
I want more that. I think, like, Waters at his best is probably, like, top three guy.
00:49:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:26
Reese
I want see Waters Duke.
00:49:27
Cokeley Brothers
waters Waters is fun. He'd be fun against Duke. I think I had this narrative that PJ was going to beat was going to have a harder time with guys that matched his strength and kind of blow through the guys who had more of a lankier, longer reach-based build, um but then he had a really close match with Kanan Webster.
00:49:48
Cokeley Brothers
So I'm not so sure that that's necessarily the case.
00:49:49
Reese
Dude, how do you – I want you to picture in your mind, how has he taken Larkin down?
00:49:55
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. He's probably a go behind.
00:49:59
Reese
You really think he can – you think he can go behind Larkin? do You think he can hit those go-behinds on Larkin?
00:50:06
Cokeley Brothers
think he can. Yeah. He moves really fast.
00:50:09
Reese
I don't think so, dude.
00:50:12
Reese
And, like, Larkin is so hard to score from a single leg.
00:50:13
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:50:13
Cokeley Brothers
It's,
00:50:19
Reese
He's too tall, bro. He's too tall. hey All he's got to do is get his butt high. get down that Get that butt high. Get the hips high. And it's going to be hard for Duke to jump around him like he did against Antra Taylor. He's to be able to just jump over him like that.
00:50:35
Cokeley Brothers
yeah yeah i don't know that like it that'd be fun i fear i fear how a matchup between him and shapiro would go saturday night if if they were to wrestle each other in the finals um i fear that matchup uh because like
00:50:51
Reese
I mean, yeah.
00:50:55
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, he's on full feed. ah Shapiro just feels like this. like He feels very delicate right now in my mind. I don't really know anything, but he just feels delicate.
00:51:05
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:51:05
Reese
Well, what did he, did you watch his match? Like in Swisher?
00:51:09
Cokeley Brothers
No, I did not. No.
Wrestlers' Performance Without Bias
00:51:13
Reese
I didn't either. So I didn't see it.
00:51:13
Cokeley Brothers
Did he look delicate?
00:51:15
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. um I haven't haven't asked anybody. i don't want to really know. I just want to watch. I just want to watch them wrestle. I don't want to be tainted with opinions. um yeah ah Yeah. Guys that that could really fall through the cracks.
00:51:33
Cokeley Brothers
ah like I don't think Vinny Zerbin is going to make the podium. I don't think it's going to happen.
00:51:37
Reese
Yeah, man.
00:51:38
Cokeley Brothers
dan Daniel Cardenas might have like a two and two Yeah.
00:51:38
Reese
I got Carly Millard beating him.
00:51:42
Cokeley Brothers
my like millard Millard could beat him. um
00:51:44
Reese
I think Millard beats him, and then I think he is sad boy, and he loses to Drexler.
00:51:47
Cokeley Brothers
yeah this
00:51:52
Cokeley Brothers
It's very possible. Cardenas might not even make it to the quarters. There's a lot of weird things that could happen in this bracket.
00:51:58
Reese
true. Yeah.
00:52:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah like camca kimp Cam Catrebone is such a good 15 seed.
00:52:01
Reese
I really hope Cardiq loses their quarters.
00:52:08
Cokeley Brothers
ah He probably...
00:52:08
Reese
He's not being tailored though.
00:52:12
Cokeley Brothers
He's not beating Ontrell Taylor. He could make it to the blood round, but then he's probably going to have Larkin or Rubidoux. Yeah.
00:52:20
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:52:22
Reese
Yeah, he's a freshman.
00:52:22
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:52:23
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:52:26
Cokeley Brothers
He's a freshman. He's a good freshman.
00:52:27
Reese
Logan and Rosinski, who are Rosinski's losses?
00:52:28
Cokeley Brothers
this is This is a good... i don't know, but he's got three of them, which is way more than I thought he would have. ah ah he took one at national duels, right?
00:52:42
Reese
Yeah.
00:52:44
Cokeley Brothers
Rosinski...
00:52:44
Reese
Jude Swisher, three to one injury default to PJ Duke, eight to two at Webster. He was getting smoked by PJ.
00:52:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and he was getting slammed by PJ.
00:52:51
Reese
Yeah.
00:52:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:52:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. ah I mean... i have him losing to Webster.
00:53:03
Reese
yeah He doesn't really have any of the, any of the dubs other than a trail Taylor that complaint total outlier.
00:53:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:53:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:53:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. This would be a fun wait. This is going be a fun wait class.
Weight Class Comparisons
00:53:18
Reese
Yeah, this weight is great. This is the better weight, Sammy.
00:53:19
Cokeley Brothers
Uh...
00:53:21
Reese
I have to bring this up. This weight is better than 33. Not only is 33 not the best weight of all time, it's not even the best weight of this year. It's certainly not better than that 33-pound bracket that was from 2019.
00:53:39
Reese
2019. And maybe...
00:53:40
Cokeley Brothers
like 2018 or whatever.
00:53:41
Reese
twenty nineteen
00:53:43
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:53:45
Reese
and maybe Maybe it would have been if you had the two guys that we lost, Crookham and who was the other one?
00:53:46
Cokeley Brothers
dude, I mean, like if you, if.
00:53:56
Cokeley Brothers
Figgs.
00:53:58
Reese
Crookham, no.
00:54:01
Cokeley Brothers
Richie Figgs.
00:54:01
Reese
Frost.
00:54:02
Cokeley Brothers
Zeth Romney. Uh,
00:54:04
Reese
Crookham and Frost. Where's Romney? What happened to him?
00:54:09
Cokeley Brothers
Romney, well, he was up he's up at 141, but I believe after CKLV took a med shirt.
00:54:14
Reese
Oh.
00:54:15
Cokeley Brothers
I believe. um So expect him to transfer really is what that means.
Speculation on Wrestler Transfers
00:54:21
Cokeley Brothers
um i'm I'm being so serious. like i there's There's a list of guys that I have that I'm expecting to transfer.
00:54:26
Reese
I believe you.
00:54:29
Cokeley Brothers
Huh? Oh, yeah.
00:54:31
Reese
i said, I believe you. It's just sad.
00:54:37
Cokeley Brothers
so way it works. um look Dude, and here's the deal. If you want to be wrong, that's totally cool. Totally fine by me. It's just not, the talent is not as strong at this weight class as it is at 133. Yep.
00:54:58
Reese
okay Does that mean it's the best weight class?
00:55:03
Reese
Just because you got four guys who are
00:55:03
Cokeley Brothers
to to me To me, yeah, the the quality of the wrestlers and the number of wrestlers that have...
00:55:09
Reese
PJ Duke is picha duka is a is a talent as good as any of the other talents at 133. Okay.
00:55:20
Cokeley Brothers
i think you'd I think you put him at the same tier as Jax Forrest, but if you had to list that tier, you'd put Jax Forrest at least one step ahead of him.
00:55:29
Reese
Are you putting Marcus Blaze behind Jax Forrest?
Jax Forrest's Standing Among Competitors
00:55:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:36
Reese
Marcus Blaze is like 2-0 against Forrest the last two times they've wrestled.
00:55:43
Reese
That is the other thing.
00:55:44
Reese
i'm like I'm like blown away by people think Forrest. Dude, Forrest is pretty sure the last two times he's wrestled Ben DeVino, he's lost.
00:55:44
Cokeley Brothers
That's great.
00:55:55
Reese
The last two times he's wrestled Blaze, he's lost. I'm pretty sure. Maybe he's beaten Divino the last time they wrestled.
00:56:01
Cokeley Brothers
he He beat Divino this summer freestyle.
00:56:02
Reese
But...
00:56:05
Reese
Oh, okay.
00:56:06
Reese
Well, Divino is also beaten...
00:56:07
Cokeley Brothers
but i think I think like Zanfugit beat Divino.
00:56:11
Reese
What?
00:56:13
Reese
That was Blaze.
00:56:13
Cokeley Brothers
think like I think even like Zanfugit beat Divino in freestyle.
00:56:17
Reese
No, that...
00:56:17
Cokeley Brothers
Are
00:56:18
Reese
Divino would be Fugate. Are talking about at juniors?
00:56:22
Cokeley Brothers
sure?
00:56:24
Reese
are you twenty three ss or whatever?
00:56:25
Cokeley Brothers
At U20s? your twenty s
00:56:27
Reese
yeah Yeah, U20s, Divino beat Fugate and then lost to Blaze in the finals.
00:56:35
Reese
I'm almost certain.
00:56:39
Cokeley Brothers
ah I will happily fact check you on that once we're done here.
00:56:39
Reese
Or maybe that was the year before. That could have been the year before. But no it it no, there's no way it was because it was it it was right after Zan went on his run.
00:56:45
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. um
00:56:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah the Marcus Blaze is good. ah
00:56:56
Reese
Jax Forrest
00:56:57
Reese
is not the guy at this way. that's what I'm just, I'm like, I'm just shocked that people think that Forrest is the guy to be, he's not the guy to be.
00:56:57
Cokeley Brothers
And like...
00:57:08
Cokeley Brothers
I mean...
00:57:08
Reese
I personally think DeVino is the guy to be.
00:57:13
Cokeley Brothers
i totally That totally makes sense to me. Really, i mean, look, if you want to ask what my opinion is, Drake Iala is the guy to beat. Now, some people have managed to do that, but we'll see if they can keep that up for three days.
00:57:20
Reese
Yeah, but that's, but that is, forgive my, forgive me, but that is stupid and based on
00:57:22
Cokeley Brothers
So...
00:57:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, well... Okay.
00:57:31
Reese
Whereas what i'm talking about is actually makes sense.
00:57:32
Cokeley Brothers
Um...
00:57:36
Cokeley Brothers
Sure. Like, here's the deal. i I would put, like, if I had to tier 133 and 157, I would put at the top tier for 157 is like PJ Duke and Meyer Shapiro.
00:57:50
Cokeley Brothers
ah And then I, and and maybe Larkin. And then I think I would leave the next set of guys to the next tier.
00:58:01
Reese
Okay. That's three guys.
00:58:01
Cokeley Brothers
And then at 133 in that, what?
00:58:03
Cokeley Brothers
why
00:58:04
Reese
That's three guys.
00:58:08
Cokeley Brothers
I know. And then ah at 133, I mean, you have at least four. It's Forrest, Davino, Blaze, and Seidel.
00:58:13
Reese
No, four is the cutoff. Four is cutoff. There is not, at there's no at least four. If you say there's at least four at 133, then there's at least three at 157.
00:58:25
Reese
With Robbidoux, Antrell Taylor, Maybe Ty Waters.
00:58:32
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know if I... I just don't see it. ah
00:58:36
Reese
well the what What are we talking about at 33?
00:58:37
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:58:42
Reese
Who's on that tier outside of the four guys?
00:58:42
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe like, i don't know, dude.
00:58:44
Cokeley Brothers
Think about it this way. Dylan Schauber is a former Big Ten champ. You ever consider him?
00:58:49
Reese
David Dillard-Jauber? that that That speaks nothing to the
00:58:55
Cokeley Brothers
Dude. There have been 11...
00:58:57
Reese
Marco Baker is the eighth seed, Sammy.
00:59:01
Cokeley Brothers
which blows my mind. There have been 11 mentions this year of a former big 10 champion losing. and And that is 11, the 11 times Dylan Schauber has lost and people are like big 10 champ goes down to such and such. And like, you guys don't understand how long ago that was and how different this weight class is compared to them.
00:59:22
Cokeley Brothers
ah You know, maybe this weight class did lose some of its luster because I do miss frost and I do miss ah Crookham. But also at that time of the year, we didn't have Forrest and we didn't have Seidel.
00:59:35
Cokeley Brothers
And to be honest, I feel like those are upgrades from those two guys. And the number of all Americans.
00:59:39
Reese
No, no, no. You were 100% counting those guys.
00:59:45
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:59:47
Reese
You were counting those guys when you were talking about 133 being, yeah, you were, you were 100%.
00:59:48
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:59:53
Cokeley Brothers
No, because Seidel was not in the field. It was still Dylan Campbell. I promise you. I promise you I did not mention Seidel.
00:59:59
Reese
Either way, dude.
01:00:00
Cokeley Brothers
I think i'm I'm pretty sure I did mention Forrest, but I promise you I did not mention I'm going to need our...
01:00:02
Reese
Well, if you didn't mention Seidel, then if you mention Seidel, then there's just, there There's no, it's just not, it's not comparable. It's not the same.
01:00:15
Cokeley Brothers
our i mean I'm going to need our ah fans to to chime in here. Speak up in the comments below. who What weight class do you think is is better?
Historical NCAA Bracket Toughness
01:00:27
Cokeley Brothers
133 or 157. 22. 22. We're pulling 2022 for
01:00:30
Reese
I'm pulling up the 2019 NCAA wrestling brackets. And then I'm also going to pull up the 2022 NCAA wrestling brackets.
01:00:41
Cokeley Brothers
too
01:00:41
Reese
Just wait.
01:00:42
Reese
Just you wait.
01:00:42
Cokeley Brothers
twenty twenty two
01:00:44
Cokeley Brothers
we're we're pulling up twenty twenty two for it
01:00:44
Reese
Yeah, because I just want to just look at you. You look him up too. Look him up for 2022, 125. Okay. I'm just saying fix
01:00:52
Cokeley Brothers
um'm going I'm going wrestlingstats.com where they have all of the NCAA brackets from history. ah ah ah Actually, a weight that I wanted to look up, what?
01:01:06
Reese
Chaz Tucker. Ernesty was really good that year. Luke p Fletcher. Cam Secor was really good. Montori Bridges, Austin Gomez, Mickey Phillippe, Nick Soriano, Josh Turrell, Corbin Myers was good, ah Tariq Wilson, Ethan Lysak, Austin DeSanto, RBY, Gary Wayne Harding, Stevon Micic.
01:01:32
Reese
That's what we're talking about here, Sammy.
01:01:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah Bo Nickel dropped his 184 weight class from 2018. This one? This thing's pretty stacked.
01:01:44
Reese
Yeah, that thing was stacked.
01:01:47
Cokeley Brothers
You got Bo Nickel, Miles Martin, ah Ryan Preech and Pete Renda didn't have maybe the most decorated criti careers. does Zach Zvatsky, Max Dean, Drew Foster, Dominic Abinader,
01:02:01
Cokeley Brothers
ah Taylor Vans, Emery Parker. this is a tough This was a tough bracket. ah That way that you listed off, I don't know.
01:02:13
Cokeley Brothers
Kyle Cannell was in this weight, my goodness. Mike Machiavelli was in this weight. Jared Haught, no, that's 197. Geez, I was getting mixed up. um Wow, that was messing me up.
01:02:24
Cokeley Brothers
ah Okay. that's ah That's a foul claim too. Look, people, if you have a weight from a certain year that you think would had deserves best NCAA bracket of all time, it's going to be after the 2,849 pound bracket or whatever year it was with Brent Metcalf and Jordan Burroughs and all those guys.
01:02:36
Reese
What's in it?
01:02:48
Cokeley Brothers
So let us know what your second toughest...
01:02:48
Reese
You can say that, Hey, Hey, you can say that that was the toughest bracket, but all as I'm saying is the, the, the goat, well, debatably the goat of American wrestling said this one 33 pound weight class in 2019 was the deepest weight class of all time that he had ever seen.
01:03:15
Reese
So your opinion basically is.
01:03:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, John Smith did put that out there.
01:03:18
Reese
Moot.
01:03:22
Cokeley Brothers
Nah.
01:03:23
Reese
The end.
01:03:23
Cokeley Brothers
No, it's not.
01:03:25
Reese
It's the end.
01:03:26
Cokeley Brothers
Nah. No, John was old when he said that.
01:03:29
Reese
He certainly, he was seven years younger than he is now.
01:03:32
Cokeley Brothers
hes And he was probably a sound mind because John Smith don't age.
Podcast Scheduling Challenges
01:03:38
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Anything else?
01:03:41
Reese
Nope, that's it.
01:03:43
Cokeley Brothers
All right, everybody, thank you for listening. This is super fun. I'm trying my hardest to get my awesome brothers to be available more frequently.
01:03:52
Reese
ah tell This
01:03:55
Cokeley Brothers
To be a to be available more frequently for episodes, we're working on it. In the meantime, enjoy the show and have a good day.
01:04:02
Reese
is a busy, busy time of the busy time of the year.
01:04:05
Cokeley Brothers
Busy time. Busy time of the year. Bye-bye.